Open thread 1/5

411 Comments

  1. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    Esteemed evolutionary biologist PZ Myers informs about an ancient spider fossil.

    Spiders are amazingly sophisticated animals, and probably the premiere complex adaptation of modern spiders is the ability to spin silk. They have multiple internal glands that can produce multiple kinds of silk — webs contain different kinds, from structural strands to adhesive strands, and other kinds are used for spinning egg cases and for wrapping prey — and they are sprayed out through small spigots mounted on swiveling spinnerets, which are modified opisthosomal (abdominal) limbs. Obviously, these detailed features did not spontaneously appear all at once, but had to have evolved progressively. A couple of fossils have recently been described that reveal a) silk spinning is ancient, from at least the Permian, but that b) these early spiders did not have the full array of modern adaptations.

    Here is a pair of fossils: Permarachne novokshonovi, from the Permian in Russia, and a more recent specimen, and Palaeothele montceauensis, from the Carboniferous in France. Both are eight-legged arthropods, and if you saw one scuttling about now you wouldn’t hesitate to call them spiders. There are some differences, though: Permarachne in particular shows a little less tagmosis, or fusion and specialization of segments, than we usually see in spiders, and it also has that prominent flagellum (which is completely different from a bacterial flagellum!), a long segmented ‘tail’ covered with sensory hairs that was probably a sense organ; it has no sign of a web-spinning function.

    More real science by real scientists at:
    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/01/ancient_spiders.php

  2. Heckler
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:06 am | Permalink

    “Obama has remained wholly silent during the Gaza crisis. His aides say he is following established protocol that the US has only one president at a time. Hillary Clinton, his designated secretary of state, and Joe Biden, the vice-president-elect and foreign policy expert, have also been uncharacteristically taciturn on the subject.

    But evidence is mounting that Obama is already losing ground among key Arab and Muslim audiences that cannot understand why, given his promise of change, he has not spoken out. Arab commentators and editorialists say there is growing disappointment at Obama’s detachment – and that his failure to distance himself from George Bush’s strongly pro-Israeli stance is encouraging the belief that he either shares Bush’s bias or simply does not care.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/04/obama-gaza-israel

    I give Obama credit. (MARK IT DOWN) Whatever his reasons for remaining silent he is acting like a grownup….unlike how he acted while doing his European tour during the campaign season.

  3. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    “Burris, 71, appointed by Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich travels to Washington Monday and will attempt Tuesday to enter the Senate chamber to be sworn in. Burris has not been accused of wrongdoing but is considered “tainted” by many senators because he is Blagojevich’s appointee.

    The governor has been accused by federal authorities of offering to sell the appointment to the highest bidder, but he has not been indicted yet. Reid said Blagojevich is “obviously” corrupt.”

    A little humble pie for Reid, the racist. There appears to be a cloud of corruption hanging all over the democrats party:

    “Richardson, who will remain governor of New Mexico, is facing a federal grand jury investigation into whether he exchanged government contracts for contributions to three Richardson political committees.”

  4. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    Life as a war criminal is pretty good. Still President Bush will move into his $2 million home in Dallas (the eco-friendly one was just a prop for his campaign). There he’ll retire comfortably with secret service staff (of course, paid by taxpayers), a taxpayer financed travel budget, full medical coverage (thanks to taxpayers), a lovely office to do whatever he wants, taxpayer paid staff which will do his laundry or whatever, and $196,700 annual pension.

    Because, you know, he hates socialism and hand outs. I shouldn’t be too critical, it’s not as good as some of the packages CEOs of failed banks get from the taxpayers.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090104/pl_mcclatchy/3136862_1

  5. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:37 am | Permalink

    How to finance your campaign and hide the money sources and money laundering:

    “Far Left Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL) and Barack Obama Florida campaign chairman has allegedly filed 25 amended FEC reports in the days immediately following Bill O’Reilly busting him in front of his Maryland home on camera.

    Robert Wexler’s Republican opponent Edward Lynch has a compelling argument that there is much more to this story that needs to be revealed. Wexler’s campaign allegedly submitted 25 amended FEC reports between 7/23/08 (one day after O’Reilly busted him) and 7/30/08.
    National Review reported the news this morning:

    According to a website set up by Lynch’s campaign, Wexler is in engaged in campaign-finance schemes that might amount to money laundering. Lynch even claims that the FBI is investigating. A spokesman for the FBI’s Miami field office told National Review Online they had “no comment.”

    Ben Graber, an independent Democrat running a serious candidacy against Wexler and Lynch, has filed his own criminal complaint seeking an investigation.

    Lynch’s accusations are as follows. Beginning July 23 — the day after Fox broke the news about the Democratic candidate’s questionable residency — and ending July 30, the Wexler campaign amended 25 Federal Election Commission reports going back to 2001. The amendments removed references to “Newbridge Securities” as a corporation from which the campaign had received funds, replacing Newbridge with a variety of different companies.

    Several of the new companies, such as Capital Gains Consultants, Inc., were not in business at the time Wexler’s amended FEC report claims the funds were paid, according to documents Lynch provides. On July 25, in the midst of the Wexler campaign’s revisions to its old filings, Newbridge Securities and its owners were brought up on charges by the Securities and Exchange Comission for securities violations.”

    Thanks Fox news! Now THAT’s reporting!

  6. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:39 am | Permalink

    “There appears to be a cloud of corruption hanging all over the democrats party:”

    You can always find corruption on both sides, it doesn’t discrimate between either major party.

  7. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    “Thanks Fox news! Now THAT’s reporting!”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Kinda like listening to Rush Limbaugh if you want the facts..LOL!!

  8. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    Please MaggotPunk,

    Let’s look at another former president, shall we?

    “London, Apr.14 (ANI): Democratic Party presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton’s denunciations of China have been undermined by disclosures that her husband, Bill’s charitable foundation received a donation from a Chinese internet company accused of aiding the crackdown in Tibet. The Los Angeles Times reported that Bill Clinton, the former president, had been involved with Alibaba Incorporated, which manages Yahoo China.
    Last month, according to The Telegraph, the company posted a government-issued “most wanted” warning on the website’s homepage, urging customers to provide information on Tibetan activists suspected of causing riots in the disputed Himalayan territory.
    In 2005, Alibaba arranged for Bill Clinton to speak at a conference of Internet executives in Hangzhou, but instead of receiving a fee, which can range from 100,000 dollars to 400,000 dollars, he accepted an undisclosed donation to the William J Clinton Foundation.
    A spokesman for the foundation confirmed that a donation had been received from Alibaba.”

    “Clinton Donors Include Saudi Arabia, Blackwater, AIG (Update3)
    Email | Print | A A A

    By Timothy J. Burger and Kristin Jensen

    Dec. 18 (Bloomberg) — Former President Bill Clinton, meeting a precondition for his wife, Hillary, to become secretary of state, revealed at least $41 million in donations to his foundation from foreign nations such as Saudi Arabia.

    Saudi Arabia was the most generous among the countries, giving between $10 million and $25 million, according to the list published on the foundation’s Web site today. Only two donors gave more than $25 million: the Children’s Investment Fund Foundation, dedicated to easing poverty for children in developing countries, and the disease relief group UNITAID.

    Clinton is trying to forestall criticism that his pursuit of donations, especially from foreign governments, might complicate the work of his wife.”

    “It pays to be an ex-president. The Clintons — Bill and Hillary — reported $109 million in income from 2000, his last year in office, through estimates for 2007, the campaign said this afternoon. The couple paid more than $33 million in federal taxes and donated more than $10 million to charities.

    That left post-tax earnings of a little over $57 million — a pretty good Lotto jackpot. Specific income included just over $1 million from Hillary Clinton’s Senate salary, and $1.2 million from a presidential pension. An additional $10.4 million came from Hillary Clinton’s book income, a third of what her husband took in — $29.6 million. The big cash cow: President Clinton’s speech revenue: nearly $52 million.”

  9. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    “But evidence is mounting that Obama is already losing ground among key Arab and Muslim audiences that cannot understand why, given his promise of change, he has not spoken out.”

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

  10. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    Wjile we’re cut and pasting to dig up old dirt:

    The oil services company once headed by United States Vice-President Dick Cheney reaped massive rewards in government contracts and bank loans after he took its helm, including one deal with a Russian firm under investigation for mafia connections.
    This was disclosed as President George Bush renewed his efforts to stabilise stock markets and distance himself from the wave of accounting scandals afflicting corporate America. Yesterday, Bush urged Congress to punish corporate abuses.

    From 1995 to 2000 Cheney was chief executive and chairman of Halliburton, the Dallas-based company that provides products and services to the oil and energy industries, employing 100,000 people worldwide.

    Its share value has fallen by two-thirds because of lawsuits over asbestos poisoning and an investigation of accounting changes introduced under Cheney.

    Most of Halliburton’s government contracts were won by its construction subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown and Root – a company with British origins that was sold to the US parent in the 1970s.

    Documents uncovered by a Washington researcher, Knut Royce – formerly with the Centre for Public Integrity – and by The Observer show that government banks loaned or insured loans worth $1.5 billion during the five years that Cheney was chief executive, compared with only $100 million during the previous five years.

    The company under Cheney benefited from $3.8bn in government contracts or insured loans. Although Bill Clinton was in the White House, Capitol Hill – where the Appropriations Committee handles government contracts – was controlled by Cheney’s Republican Party, to which Halliburton doubled its contributions to $1,212,000 after his arrival.

    The most eye-catching contract was for the refurbishment of a Siberian oilfield, Samotlor, for the Tyumen oil company of Russia. The company was loaned $489m in credits by the US Export-Import Bank after lobbying by Halliburton; it was in return to receive $292m for the refurbishments.

    The White House and State Department tried to veto the Russian deal. But after intense lobbying by Halliburton the objections were overruled on Capitol Hill. One of Halliburton’s top lobbyists was David Gribben, who had been Cheney’s chief of staff at the Pentagon.

    The State Department’s concerns were based on the fact that Tyumen was controlled by a holding conglomerate, the Alfa Group, that had been investigated in Russia for mafia connections.

    Alfa strongly denies that it has ever had any criminal connection, describing the allegations as ‘nonsense’.

    Cheney was highly valued by Halliburton because of connections made in the Arab oil-producing states while Defence Secretary during the war against Iraq under George Bush Snr.

    Halliburton denies that Cheney used his position or contacts to win government business. A spokeswoman said: ‘Any innuendo that Halliburton or Dick Cheney has acted improperly is false.’

    The company’s fortunes have flourished during the ‘war on terrorism’. It has landed contracts to build the cells for al-Qaeda detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

    A Securities and Exchange Commission investigation is under way into accounting changes introduced by Halliburton in 1998, when it inflated its revenue figures by including uncollected debts.

  11. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:53 am | Permalink

    The party of corruption welcomes the new year:

    A donor’s gift soon followed Clinton’s help
    By Charlie Savage Published: January 4, 2009

    “WASHINGTON: A developer in New York state donated $100,000 to former President Bill Clinton’s foundation in November 2004, around the same time that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton helped secure millions of dollars in federal assistance for the businessman’s mall project.

    Hillary Clinton helped enact legislation allowing the developer, Robert Congel, to use tax-exempt bonds to help finance the construction of the Destiny USA entertainment and shopping complex, an expansion of the Carousel Center in Syracuse.

    She also helped secure a provision in a highway bill that set aside $5 million for Destiny USA roadway construction.

    The bill with the tax-free bonds provision became law in October 2004, weeks before the donation, and the highway bill with the set-aside became law in August 2005, about nine months after the donation.”

    Yeah, the donation came after, and unsolicited from the Clintons (wink, wink).

  12. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    Paste away Mary. The republicans are history.
    The party of corruption (I mean inclusion)
    is now setting the clean politics example!

    HA-HA HE-HE HO-HO

  13. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    Paste away Mary. The republicans are history.

    My posts are all CURRENT EVENTS:

    The party of corruption (I mean inclusion)
    is now setting the clean politics example!

    HA-HA HE-HE HO-HO!

  14. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    Paste away Mary. The republicans are history.
    The party of corruption (I mean inclusion)
    is now setting the clean politics example!

    HA-HA HE-HE HO-HO

  15. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    Paste away Mary. The republicans are history.
    The party of corruption (I mean inclusion)
    is now setting the clean politics example!

    HA-HA HE-HE HO-HO

  16. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    Note to monitor: I didn’t do that. I posted once, it froze, I modified my post slightly, and hit enter again.

  17. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:59 am | Permalink

    Just showing you that anyone can cut and paste dirt. It’s much easier than thinking.

  18. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:59 am | Permalink

    Yeah, right, “American_Way” –

    You can say that again.

  19. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:59 am | Permalink

    And now we now, the rest of the story.

    Why Bill Clinton refused all the way up to September 2008 to reveal his donors.

    The Clintons. Those razorbacks sure know how to bring in the hogs!

  20. outlander
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    #
    Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    “But evidence is mounting that Obama is already losing ground among key Arab and Muslim audiences that cannot understand why, given his promise of change, he has not spoken out.”

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

    ————-

    True Mary. It also means that a lot of people have no idea what Obama meant by “change”. But it sounded good.

  21. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    Here’s a good one:

    liberalslikechrist.org/about/gopcorruption.html

  22. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    Skippy do da, Skippy Day!
    My oh my what a crybaby day!

    Both Mary and Outlander reverting to name calling and put downs before 7 AM.

    Can’t take the heat?
    Can’t refute the facts?
    Can’t stand looking at the source?

    Revert to lib plan two:
    PUT DOWNS!

    HAHA HOHO HEHE!

  23. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    Darn Monkeyhawk, you are sharp for early morning.
    Good one!

    Gimmee time to suck up more coffee. I’ll get you my pretty!

  24. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    Why don’t you give him a chance to get into office before you condemn him? Why are you wanting him to fail so badly? I don’t get you at all.

  25. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:04 am | Permalink

    Where have I called anyone names? You’re starting to sound more and more like Nathan.

  26. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:04 am | Permalink

    Sorry OUtlander, I sit corrected.

    Nuts is not name calling….

  27. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:05 am | Permalink

    “True Mary. It also means that a lot of people have no idea what Obama meant by “change”. But it sounded good.”—outlander

    So true, Obama the piper extraordinaire, leading his small minded liberal rats down the unknown path they so believe in.

  28. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:05 am | Permalink

    Well, I’d love to play this morning, but some of us have to work for a living. See you on the flip side!

  29. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    “small minded liberal rats” Now who’s calling who names? Pathetic.

  30. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    “You’re starting to sound more and more like Nathan.”

    Ooohhh RAH!!!
    Semper Fi! Do or Die!

    This is my rifle, there are many like, but this one is mine!

    ONE TWO THREE FOUR
    We are the Marine Corps
    GIMMEE SOME!
    PT!
    GOOD FOR YOU
    GOOD FOR ME!

    YOU GOT IT
    MOTIVAAAAAAAAAAAAATION!!!

    YOU WANT IT
    MOTIVAAAAAAAAAAAAATION!!!

    GET SOME!

    How do you mean that?

  31. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:09 am | Permalink

    ” It also means that a lot of people have no idea what Obama meant by “change”

    Awesome post.

    But I’d like to even ONE person who know what Obama means by “CHange”.

    Can anyone name one person who knows? You can’t say Barack, because he is STILL working to get:

    1. His economic plan together
    2. His middle east plan together

    Anyone else who might know?

    UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU who?

    Anyone?

  32. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Awww Mary, don’t cut and run.
    It’s early!

  33. outlander
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    This should be good.

    So, mixed up letter boy, how exactly are “Republican POS’s like yourselves will be eliminated once and for all”?

  34. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    “American_Way” owns –

    “Sorry OUtlander, I sit corrected.”

    Oh that’s why you sit that way.

    I suspected hemorrhoids.

  35. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    “American_Way” –

    One president at a time.

    What’s Shrub doing?

  36. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    Prove Global Warming is man made. WIN $100,000!!!!
    Save AL Gore at the same time.

    http://mark24609.blogspot.com/2007/08/you-can-win-100000-dollars.html

    too funny

  37. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    Glory DAY it is back to school!

  38. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    One president at a time.

    What’s Shrub doing?

    I heard he started counting the White House computer keyboard letters to ensure they didn’t accidentally pack any.

    Heard he started last week, and it’s made it through the top row of one so far.

  39. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:18 am | Permalink
    Glory DAY it is back to school!

    Yep Bluejay, not a care in the world now heh?
    No responsibilities. Heck man, you can blog all day long!!!!

    Sounds an awful lot like XMAS break, but for adult children.

  40. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:25 am | Permalink

    I am sure you will have more time to spend here today than me “American way”.

    Kids are back where they belong today interacting with their peers and being taught to be good citizens.

  41. American_Way
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    “Kids are back where they belong today interacting with their peers and being taught to be good citizens.”

    And you are back to bloggin all day long. I’m wondering, if your kid has more responsibilities than you?

  42. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    Well I must have more responsibility than you do there Hank.

  43. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    ““small minded liberal rats” Now who’s calling who names? Pathetic.”

    Interesting Mary, I most certainly did not call you that personally, or in fact anyone in particular. For you to take it that way simply indicates you are placing yourself in that category voluntarily, on your own.
    My comment was directed at blind followers of a ‘mantra of change’, which was undefined and nebulous, yet people more full of agenda than reality bought into.

  44. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    “Boxlock20″ whines about –

    “…a ‘mantra of change’, which was undefined and nebulous…”

    You still don’t get it.

    What was “undefined and nebulous” was the presidency of George WMD Bush.

    Remember “no nation-building?” Remember “don’t invade without an exit strategy?” Remember 9/11? Remember “restoring dignity to the Oval Office?”

    Here’s a reminder –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8_u1FLu30

    You dismiss as “a mantra of change” as naive. A more accurate description would be desperate.

    Anything, anyone will be better than George WMD Bush. That’s the essence of change and John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) wasn’t gonna cut it.

    The change — already underway nearly three weeks before Obama takes office — is Shrub’s idiocy is going into the ash bin of history.

    That’s good enough for starters.

  45. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    What more can I say?

    The man has a heart of gold –

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neil-young/perfect-storm-for-innovat_b_155148.html

  46. Heckler
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    Monkey links to this-

    “America now has a chance to lead the world in power and fuel efficiency. The Big three will still be looking for help at the end of March. As the major shareholder, the US government would have an opportunity to DEMAND the type of cars that will lead the world toward saving the planet for future generations.”

    Yeah, give a big PHUQ U to the consumer. They will get what they NEED not what they want. And the foreign makers will grind them further into the dust bin of history.

    Brilliant, Monkey”boy”!

  47. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Hmmm.

    Seems like the moderation nanny is back.

  48. Heckler
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    Another gem from Monkey”boy”’s Neil Young post-

    “If the Big three cannot agree to make only cars that are fuel efficient enough to get at least 50 MPG by 2011, 75 MPG by 2013 and 100 MPG by 2015,”

    Divorce yourself from reality often Monkey?

    In order to give folks a car that gets 75 MPG that the average parent would feel safe putting their children in you are going to have to do something about those pesky laws of physics.

    New Progressive mantra- “phuq you AND your childrens safety”

  49. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    “You dismiss as “a mantra of change” as naive. A more accurate description would be desperate.”

    Monkey, good decisions are rarely made out of desperation. Running from one thing to another without knowing where you are going rarely works.

  50. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    #
    Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Hmmm.

    Seems like the moderation nanny is back.
    __________________________

    I know what you mean.

  51. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    I finally got a post. Thank you nanny!

  52. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    American_Way posted January 5, 2009 at 7:18 am

    Prove Global Warming is man made. WIN $100,000!!!!
    Save AL Gore at the same time.

    too funny
    —————————

    What’s too funny is that Am_Way seems to believe that science “proves” things. “Prove” gravity, Am_Way.

    What’s too funny is that the AGW deniers cannot refute the AGW science, so they do stupid PR stunts, like offer cash rewards.

    What’s too funny (and very pathetic) is that the AGW deniers have spent much, much more than $100k since the late 1980’s, to confuse people about the very important issue.

    http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/global-warming-skeptic.html

  53. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    Thank you cosMo!!!! a.k.a. nanny

  54. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    “Boxlock20″ –

    I dunno.

    I remember George Stephanopoulos during the first months of the Clinton Administration saying something along the lines of –

    “Here we were, after winning the election with ‘It’s the economy, stupid,” we got into office and found out George HW Bush’s economy was in even worse shape than we’d imagined!”

    One can only imagine how much Shrub has covered up and we (and Obama) won’t know about until a new President takes office.

    The biggest change — and perhaps the most important change — will come at noon on January 20th.

  55. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Get used to saying Senator Al Franken!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOtyigg5BZw&NR=1

  56. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    What’s too funny is that the AGW deniers cannot refute the AGW science, so they do stupid PR stunts, like offer cash rewards.

    What’s too funny (and very pathetic) is that the AGW deniers have spent much, much more than $100k since the late 1980’s, to confuse people about the very important issue.

    http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/global-warming-skeptic.html
    ________________________________________

    Just another AGW left wing propaganda group.

    http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/145

    Nice try cosmo. I

  57. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    The moderation nanny must be busy.

  58. outlander
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    #
    Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Get used to saying Senator Al Franken!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOtyigg5BZw&NR=1

    ————

    I tried it. It makes me giggle.

    Those knuckleheads in Mineeesota.

  59. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    Have some more laughs, “outlander” –

    Ann Coulter whines for equal time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHx0oLrGjKY&feature=related

  60. annie_moose
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    New Progressive mantra- “phuq you AND your childrens safety”

    http://www.epinions.com/content_5053390980

    The Family SUV: Unsafe At Any Speed???
    Jul 07 ‘07

    The Bottom Line As if poor driving performance and terrible fuel economy weren’t reason enough to avoid buying an SUV, they just might also endanger your kids.

    Good intentions. We all know where they lead.

    One of the “good intentions” that can so easily lead a car buyer astray is the issue of “safety”.

    Over the past decade, countless Americans have made the wrong car buying decision because they wanted a “safe car for their family”.

    What was that “wrong decision”?

    They bought an SUV because they thought “bigger means safer.” Once in a while it does….in a typical collision between two vehicles, the bigger vehicle does fare better. But a little more than once in a while, it most certainly does not. And in many collision types, it is the SUV or pickup driver who is at greatest risk for death or injury.

    There’s anecdotal evidence that cuts both ways, but when you evaluate the statistical data (or better yet, just read the summaries of studies by smart guys who get paid to do the grunt work), you just might come to realize that SUVs are more dangerous, overall, than a much smaller car. It will then dawn on you just how badly Americans have been misled by automakers. All those people who were “protecting” their kids by buying the biggest SUV they could afford were, in fact, actually put them into danger’s way. And unfortunately for the SUV fan, the evidence is increasingly mounting that the net effect works against the SUV. Before you buy your next car, PLEASE (for your kids’ sake), take enough time to read a few studies and then make your decision based on what you discover. Don’t rely on idle watercooler chit-chat, nor on a car maker’s or a salesman’s pitch!

    In this review, I intend to point out a few of the factors that make SUVs “unsafe at any speed” (to misquote the perennial pariah, Ralph Nader), and I’ll provide you with some pointers where you can begin your own investigation (and of course, a Google search is always a great way to find out what people might not be telling you — me included).

  61. george
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Hamas must be destroyed so that peace loving people can live with out fear of rockets or bombs descending down on them.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/01052009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dont_stop_until_hamas_is_destroyed_147234.htm

  62. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    donndublin posted January 5, 2009 at 8:56 am

    Just another AGW left wing propaganda group.

    Nice try cosmo. I
    ————————-

    donndublin, instead of making stupid attacks at the “messenger”, why don’t you refute the facts they present about the groups?

    Global Climate Coalition, George Marshall Institute, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP), Greening Earth Society, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide & Global Change, and ExxonMobil.

    http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/global-warming-skeptic.html

    Because donndublin cannot refute the facts.

  63. outlander
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    Senator Al Franken

    Senator Stewart Smalley

    I’m good enough. I’m smart enough and darn it, people like me.

    Chuckle…

  64. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    annie_moose,

    True, some of the big SUV’s have multiple safety problems. They have a high center of gravity, are more likely to roll-over, and have a weak roof that can collapse.

  65. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    cosmos_originally,

    For you (and anyone else who may enjoy a science-based chuckle).

    National Science Foundation: Science Hard

    –snip–

    “For centuries, we have embraced the pursuit of scientific knowledge as one of the noblest and worthiest of human endeavors, one leading to the enrichment of mankind both today and for future generations,” said keynote speaker and NSF chairman Louis Farian. “However, a breakthrough discovery is challenging our long-held perceptions about our discipline—the discovery that science is really, really hard.”

    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38575?utm_source=onion_rss_daily

  66. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    CARBON DIZERO!

    Chuckle. . .

  67. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    I’m sure Al is hard at work already identifying wingnut lies, and the lying liars who tell them.

    Senator Al Franken. Good for Minnesota.

    And Norm?

    GET OUTTA PAUL WELLSTONE’S SEAT!!!!!!!!!

    hee hee heeeeeee.

    This is gonna be so.much.fun.

  68. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    I’m just HOWLING at mitch whining on the Sunday morning bobble head shows about needing input and bipartisanship. Uh, just about eight years too late on that, mitch.

    Irony. It really is lost on those who need it.

  69. Phantom
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Watch that sore loser republican Coleman drag the election through the court system.
    Al least with Franken will have a little levity in these dour times.

  70. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Well, maybe Norm will take his own advise and concede? After all, that’s what he told Al to do before the recount.

    Man up Norm. Take your own advise.

  71. annie_moose
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    norm conducts an investigation

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWkZOUiw_mU

  72. Phantom
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Norm’s better than that, he won’t drag the election through the mud, riiiight?

  73. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Thirty years of sea ice data. The record begins at 1979, the year satellite observations began (Source: Arctic Research Center, University of Illinois)Rapid growth spurt leaves amount of ice at levels seen 29 years ago.

    Thanks to a rapid rebound in recent months, global sea ice levels now equal those seen 29 years ago, when the year 1979 also drew to a close.

    Ice levels had been tracking lower throughout much of 2008, but rapidly recovered in the last quarter. In fact, the rate of increase from September onward is the fastest rate of change on record, either upwards or downwards.

    The data is being reported by the University of Illinois’s Arctic Climate Research Center, and is derived from satellite observations of the Northern and Southern hemisphere polar regions.

    http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=13834
    ———————–
    Where is algore when we need him. Surprise, Surprise!!

  74. Heckler
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    annie_moose

    “The Family SUV: Unsafe At Any Speed???
    Jul 07 ‘07″

    Pure propoganda.

    Question- You are driving down the street minding your own business. An idiot on a cell phone runs a red light at 40 mph and t-bones you at an intersection. You are glad you were driving your-

    A. VW Passatt

    B. F-250 crew cab 4×4

  75. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    okobserver,

    Which melts faster? A thick layer of ice, or a thin one?

  76. annie_moose
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Where is algore when we need him. Surprise, Surprise!!
    ——
    carbon credit program must be working and people thought it couldn’t be reversed

    hehehe

  77. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Cosmos what do you have to say about the sea ice level being the same as 30 years ago?

  78. Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    okobserver,

    Which melts faster? A thick layer of ice, or a thin one?
    =====================================
    Last time I looked cosmos, the Arctic is mostly frozen. It’s not located in the Gulf of Mexico you know.

  79. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Annie according to algore and cosmos we haven’t reduced the co2 level and are headed for extinction because we haven’t. The only benefit so far is that algore is rich beyond his wildest dreams from selling those expensive ‘carbon credits’.

  80. DavidB
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Which vehicles are involved in the most roll-overs accompanied with the ejection and crushing of occupants?

    If we were all forced to drive military-grade tanks would there be fewer accidents?

  81. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    • cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:09 am | Permalink
    donndublin, instead of making stupid attacks at the “messenger”, why don’t you refute the facts they present about the groups?
    Global Climate Coalition, George Marshall Institute, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP), Greening Earth Society, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide & Global Change, and ExxonMobil.
    http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/global-warming-skeptic.html
    Because donndublin cannot refute the facts.
    ______________________________________________________

    cosMo, Why do you call political opinion facts?
    Just like the IPCC “policymakers”, the UCS is more political than scientific. You bing a political “scientist” and/or left wing journalist, I have to admit I’m at a disadvantage. I don’t have time for your tit for tat.

    http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/145

    “The Union of Concerned Scientists was born out of a protest against the war in Vietnam. In 1969, a group of 48 faculty members at MIT — the original “union” — sponsored a one-day work stoppage of scientific research. A conference that coincided with the strike included appearances from such notables as Noam Chomsky (who is now recognized as a leader of the 21st Century “hate-America left”); Eric Mann, who led the 1960s terrorist Weather Underground; and Jonathan Kabat, who argued: “We want capitalism to come to an end.”

  82. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    okobserver posted January 5, 2009 at 9:51 am

    Cosmos what do you have to say about the sea ice level being the same as 30 years ago?
    ————-

    Check the age and thickness of the ice now.

    New one-year ice melts easier/faster than multi-year ice.

  83. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    donndublin,

    Thank you for admitting that you cannot refute the facts about these groups.

    Global Climate Coalition, George Marshall Institute, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP), Greening Earth Society, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide & Global Change, and ExxonMobil.

    http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/global-warming-skeptic.html

  84. annie_moose
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    algore is rich beyond his wildest dreams from selling those expensive ‘carbon credits’.

    ———

    Isn’t capitalism great even a poor white boy from Tennessee can suceed!

  85. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Strange things keep happening in Minnesota, where the disputed recount in the Senate race between Norm Coleman and Al Franken may be nearing a dubious outcome. Thanks to the machinations of Democratic Secretary of State Mark Ritchie and a meek state Canvassing Board, Mr. Franken may emerge as an illegitimate victor.

    APMr. Franken started the recount 215 votes behind Senator Coleman, but he now claims a 225-vote lead and suddenly the man who was insisting on “counting every vote” wants to shut the process down. He’s getting help from Mr. Ritchie and his four fellow Canvassing Board members, who have delivered inconsistent rulings and are ignoring glaring problems with the tallies.

    Under Minnesota law, election officials are required to make a duplicate ballot if the original is damaged during Election Night counting. Officials are supposed to mark these as “duplicate” and segregate the original ballots. But it appears some officials may have failed to mark ballots as duplicates, which are now being counted in addition to the originals. This helps explain why more than 25 precincts now have more ballots than voters who signed in to vote. By some estimates this double counting has yielded Mr. Franken an additional 80 to 100 votes.

    This disenfranchises Minnesotans whose vote counted only once. And one Canvassing Board member, State Supreme Court Justice G. Barry Anderson, has acknowledged that “very likely there was a double counting.” Yet the board insists that it lacks the authority to question local officials and it is merely adding the inflated numbers to the totals.

    In other cases, the board has been flagrantly inconsistent. Last month, Mr. Franken’s campaign charged that one Hennepin County (Minneapolis) precinct had “lost” 133 votes, since the hand recount showed fewer ballots than machine votes recorded on Election Night. Though there is no proof to this missing vote charge — officials may have accidentally run the ballots through the machine twice on Election Night — the Canvassing Board chose to go with the Election Night total, rather than the actual number of ballots in the recount. That decision gave Mr. Franken a gain of 46 votes.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111967642552909.html
    ———————–
    Yep it looks as if the dems have another successful ‘recount’. This can’t be a proud day for the dems. Storys all over the place about corruption – Wexler, Richardson, The Clintons, and this very shaky recount in Minnesota.

  86. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    I speak con.

    Let me translate.

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaahh!

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  87. Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    That’s real intelligent Junior – of course what can one expect from a blog liar.

  88. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    There you go BJ mixing up your languages again. That is lib speak. Cons speak straight forward and clearly.

  89. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    coxMo,
    Why does your science blog(sic) only have 3 comments for a year?

    http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/1696/ipcc-report-already-out-date

  90. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Never been caught in a lie here iRegular James.

    YOUR very presence here makes you a liar. We are a year removed from your vow to leave and never bother us again.

  91. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    “okobserver,” wrong again, says –

    “Cons speak straight forward and clearly.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGRYPYuFZLk

  92. annie_moose
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Pure propoganda.

    Question- You are driving down the street minding your own business. An idiot on a cell phone runs a red light at 40 mph and t-bones you at an intersection. You are glad you were driving your-
    ——–
    Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously. The “ideas” or “cognitions” in question may include attitudes and beliefs, and also the awareness of one’s behavior. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors, or by justifying or rationalizing their attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors.[1] Cognitive dissonance theory is one of the most influential and extensively studied theories in social psychology.

  93. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Yeah the only BAD part about flush bush is the cons are losing their perfect poster boy.

  94. Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Never been caught in a lie here iRegular James.

    YOUR very presence here makes you a liar. We are a year removed from your vow to leave and never bother us again
    =================
    You claim every day that I’m other posters, yet you can’t affirm it. Steven Davis already told you about ‘Jim Johnson’ and who he is.

    That makes you a liar in my book.

    You lie daily Junior and everyone notices that you do lie.

    You even lie about lying.

  95. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    donndublin,

    Why are you making stupid troll posts about a magazine that is not mine?

  96. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    “You claim every day that I’m other posters, yet you can’t affirm it.”

    And YOU can’t make me a liar.

    Absent further evidence, we both have to live on the benefit of the doubt.

    I’m comfortable with that.

  97. Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    #
    BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    “You claim every day that I’m other posters, yet you can’t affirm it.”

    And YOU can’t make me a liar.

    Absent further evidence, we both have to live on the benefit of the doubt.

    I’m comfortable with that.
    —————————–
    You don’t accuse someone of something if you have no proof Junior.

    You are a liar.

  98. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    You mean like claiming to have had your tires slashed, blaming someone from the blog, and then having no police report or other proof?

    Ya know, like you did?

    Ok, I’m a liar. Regular says so.

    I can live with that too.

  99. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Regular,

    Post your links that you said prove your (false) claim that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees.

  100. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Re Regular,

    “A liar is not believed even when he speaks the truth.” Aesop.

  101. annie_moose
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/SWGWN3c2ZeI/AAAAAAAAEJg/_JCiUYcQIM0/s1600-h/2009+proclamation.gif

    hehehe

  102. Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Regular,

    Post your links that you said prove your (false) claim that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees.
    —————————
    Already have putz.

    It’s too bad you can’t live with reality, the truth stings you.

  103. Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    The entirety of cosmos’s AGW relies on Climate Model predictions.

    cosmos has written before here in this blog that climate models are not accurate and because they exclude large amounts of data.

    I guess that makes cosmos a liar because he relies all of his alarmist theories on inaccurate computer climate models.

  104. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    You claim every day that I’m other posters, yet you can’t affirm it. Steven Davis already told you about ‘Jim Johnson’ and who he is.

    That makes you a liar in my book.
    * * * * *
    I’m not sure how I feel about the above, but I am as sure as I can be that JJ is the former poster known as Max – who is a friend and compatriot of okobserver – the former ksgrm. You almost need a program to keep up with the con nic changes.

    I’ve recently converted to the firefox browser. I really like the spell check feature that it has. I guess it has better security, too. The internet is a very upside-down place. That stuff that costs money is of lesser quality than that stuff which is free.

    I’ve also become very fond of the Python programing system. It is much better than programming systems I’ve purchased. NASA even uses it. Again, completely free and a user is free to sell anything they develop with it. Upside-down, I’m telling ya.

    I became more familiar with free things on the internet after starting a book entitled: Rapture for the Geeks: When AI Outsmarts IQ. I highly recommend the book. It is a combination of a Mother Earth Catalog of internet stuff, plus it has many fascinating essays on the meaning of consciousness and the challenges of artificial intelligence.

  105. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    • cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:14 am | Permalink
    donndublin,
    Why are you making stupid troll posts about a magazine that is not mine?
    _______________________________________

    Because the replies to the first comment sound so much like you and right up your alley.

    “Hi everyone
    i was just wondering where can i find information or scientific studies done on the likelihood that Carbon dioxide is the actual cause of global warning and not a recent increase in solar activity. I ask because i recently heard that the Dry ice caps on mars are also melting and that the sun is currently in a solar flare peak due to decrease in 2020.
    thanks if anyone can answer
    Submitted by Visitor on 17 November 2007 – 4:04pm.

    Hi,
    Try this site: http://www.realclimate.org/
    Submitted by Chris Blanchard on 21 November 2007 – 2:02am.

    Also the Working Group I summary report for policymakers from the IPCC AR4, which can be found here: http://www.ipcc.ch
    Submitted by Visitor on 26 November 2007 – 1:02am.

  106. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Steven check your gmail right quick.

  107. HLP
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    LOL

    Al Franken . . . United States Senator

    I was going to try and come up with a funny remark but . . .

    Al Franken . . . LOL!

    The gift that keeps on giving!

  108. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Jay,

    I don’t think you know my current gmail account. Can you attach your comments to an email I sent yesterday and bounce it back.

    I have to go to the Dr. I will check back later.

  109. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Steven you really are as ignorant as you are arrogant. I have met and know 3 bloggers here. That would be Hank and Nathan and Writerdog. I have no idea who JJ or Max are. Of course don’t let yourself be bothered with truth. That after all would mean you were an honest man who deserves to be respected and we both know that isn’t true.

    You know who I am and who I was before because I told you unlike Chas who has at least 6 different nics. But oh yes he is a lib and libs by their very nature are immature liars. Sorry I forgot that.

    You and BJ need to get a real life for once.

    Check your email fast!!!! BJ is waiting. He has sent his kid back to school and has time on his hands today.

  110. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    #
    Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    The entirety of cosmos’s AGW relies on Climate Model predictions.

    cosmos has written before here in this blog that climate models are not accurate and because they exclude large amounts of data.

    I guess that makes cosmos a liar because he relies all of his alarmist theories on inaccurate computer climate models.
    __________________________________________

    cosMo also claims that the IPCC is conservative and 3 years out of date. Only an extreme liberal would think they’re conservative. The scientists maybe conservative but the “policymakers” aren’t.

    “British scientist Keith Shine, one of IPCC’s lead authors, discussing the POLICYMAKERS’ Summary. He said: “We produce a draft, and then the POLICYMAKERS go through it line by line and change the way it is presented…. It’s peculiar that they have the final say in what goes into a SCIENTISTS’ report”.”

  111. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Hank from the state that gave us a professional wrestler as a gov we are going to get a gag writer for SNL. The libs don’t get much better than this.

  112. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Regular,

    Thank you for again proving that you are a LIAR, by lying about what I’ve posted re climate models, and lying about your levee proof(sic).

    Regular added a false, fictional last paragraph to his copy/paste post here.

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232

  113. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Hee hee hee heeeee….

    I score it Steven one, grmie zero.

  114. HLP
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Hey okobserver,

    I wonder if Al will wear his little sattelite dish on his head when he does interviews on Sunday morning!

  115. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Well fermie that could be why you are such a loser. You can’t count.

  116. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Poor donndublin cannot understand the difference between a summary and a main report. He also cannot understand that “conservative” can mean “marked by moderation or caution”.

  117. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    hee hee hee heeeeeeeee…..

  118. HLP
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Good morning Farmgirl!

    Me thinks your scoring system is a little awry.

    I try not to pick on poor little Steven too much. Having junior as an email buddy is punishment enough for one man.

  119. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    All the cons are in a snit today. Makes for fun reading.

    Dennis

  120. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Hank I think that is the only way his brain gets recption.

  121. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    Why Dennis you sly old dog you. I am in a great mood. The earth isn’t warming, fermie can’t count, Steven is wrong as libs usually are and BJ’s son is back in school.

  122. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    JR, this one is JUST for you!

    It combines both the rapture ready reich and the best of mormon magic underwear.

    I dont know how any of us have lived so long without these in our wardrobes.

    heheheh. HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

    http://mojopo.blogspot.com/2008/12/rapturoos.html

  123. Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    cosmos keeps denying he wrote that climate models are inaccurate. However I have proof that he wrote that climate models are not accurate.

    cosmos is a liar relying on inaccurate climate models.

  124. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Heheheheheh.

    I wonder if values boy is busy doing the artwork for those rapturoos?

    Spending more time with his family….

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHA!

  125. Phantom
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Florida re-count=Good, Minnessota recount=Bad!
    Must of been the lack of Repub protestors being in the counting room!

  126. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Hank posted January 5, 2009 at 10:55 am

    Hey okobserver,

    I wonder if Al will wear his little sattelite(sic) dish on his head when he does interviews on Sunday morning!
    ———————
    okobserver posted January 5, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Hank I think that is the only way his brain gets recption(sic).
    ——————-

    Did he use a “little sattelite(sic) dish on his head” to graduate cum laude from Harvard?

  127. Phantom
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Bush graduated Cum Loudly!

  128. Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Al Gore dropped out of law school because he couldn’t cut it.

  129. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Hoo HOO kfg!

    Makes me wanna better know Jesus!

    “I am in a great mood.”

    Uh huh. Your skirt (eww) was showering sunshine at 10:02.

    Go be mean to a prisoner. You’ll feel better.

  130. Phantom
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Every regulator that investigated Madoff and didn’t detect the fraud should be immediately fired!

  131. annie_moose
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Al Gore dropped out of law school because he couldn’t cut it.

    ——-
    poor guy he didn’t amount to nothing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82RFIqcLDSQ&feature=related

  132. TomPaine
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    We can make fun of Franken for being a Senator but Sonny Bono, Gopher, and Cooter from Dukes of Hazzard were all elected to congress, And whats it say about Norm Coleman to lose to both Franken and Ventures.

  133. annie_moose
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    good financial advice from bernie I madoff with all your money

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auSfaavHDXQ

  134. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Sea Ice Ends Year at Same Level as 1979
    “Rapid growth spurt leaves amount of ice at levels seen 29 years ago.

    Thanks to a rapid rebound in recent months, global sea ice levels now equal those seen 29 years ago, when the year 1979 also drew to a close.

    Ice levels had been tracking lower throughout much of 2008, but rapidly recovered in the last quarter. In fact, the rate of increase from September onward is the fastest rate of change on record, either upwards or downwards.

    The data is being reported by the University of Illinois’s Arctic Climate Research Center, and is derived from satellite observations of the Northern and Southern hemisphere polar regions.”

    You-hoo, oh you-hoo, cosmos….the sky isn’t falling and the world is not burning up or ending. Seems like things just cycle, in far greater complexity than your meager models can project.

  135. Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Okie falsely claims yet again that I have at least “six nics” —- What a LIAR!!!

    I tell ya what, Okie… Why dont YOU do what Regular tells BlueJay… Why dont you call up Brownlee and ASK HIM how many nics “Chas” has???

    And then, if you dont believe HIM, well, what can I say???

    If you wont call Brownlee… At least stop your darned LYING about my nic…. which I only use ONE of…. I havent ever changed mine, unlike YOU have…

  136. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    “puff puff, pass pass”

    Gee, didnt that used to be someone else’s sig line?

    heheheh. HAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAH!

  137. Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    TomPaine
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:29 am | Permalink
    We can make fun of Franken for being a Senator but Sonny Bono, Gopher, and Cooter from Dukes of Hazzard were all elected to congress, And whats it say about Norm Coleman to lose to both Franken and Ventures.
    ==========================================

    Not to mention Jim Bunning, Bill Bradley, and J.C. Watts from Oklahoma Univ. Football…

  138. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Poor donndublin cannot understand the difference between a summary and a main report. He also cannot understand that “conservative” can mean “marked by moderation or caution”.
    ______________________________

    Poor cosMo can’t understandd the difference between a left wing politician from a scientist.
    Conservative scientist is an oxymoron(sarc off).

    That’s because you’re a political scientist and/or left wing journalist.

  139. Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Jim Bunning — Senator — MLB

    Bill Bradley – Senator — NBA

    J. C. Watts — House — NCAA Football

  140. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    “Prez-Elect Makes New Pitch, — Including 600,000 New Government Employees”

    Will the liberal Democrats ever think of anything except continually expanding government. I think they are so inept they think a big bureaucracy insulates their incompetence from view.

  141. Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Oh yea, and Bono and Gopher and Watts were all Republicans…

  142. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    #
    Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    cosmos keeps denying he wrote that climate models are inaccurate. However I have proof that he wrote that climate models are not accurate.

    cosmos is a liar relying on inaccurate climate models.
    __________________________________

    What do you expect from a politician disguised as a scientist?

  143. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    bawks,

    Please read the thread before posting duplicate stuff.

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-15-2/#comment-497324

  144. Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    Happy New Year 2009

    As we reflect on 2008, one might say we had a great year:

    Blacks are happy; Obama was elected.

    Whites are happy, OJ is in jail.

    Democrats are happy; George Bush is leaving office.

    Republicans are happy: Democrats will finally quit saying George Bush stole the election.

    And all of us are so happy; the election is finally over!

    We think 2009 will be even better. Immediately after his inauguration, Obama will balance the budget, revive the economy, solve the real estate problem, solve the auto industry problem, solve our gas/alternative energy problem, stop the fires and mudslides in California, ban hurricanes and tornadoes, stop identity theft, reverse global warming, find Osama, solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, get rid of corruption in government and achieve world peace.

    Then on the 7th day, He will rest.

  145. Phantom
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    S&P at highest level since Nov. 5.

  146. Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    S&P at highest level since Nov. 5.

    Way to go GW !!!!!

  147. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Amway did you mean to say Culture of Corruption?

    If so, you forgot one of the democraps key leaders:

    (AP)WASHINGTON — The House ethics committee is expanding an investigation of Rep. Charles Rangel, chairman of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee.
    The ethics panel issued a statement Tuesday saying it had voted to expand an already far-ranging probe into the New York Democrat to examine whether he protected an oil drilling company from a big tax bill when the head of that company pledged a $1 million donation to a college center named after the congressman.
    The move means the Rangel inquiry will likely stretch well past early January, when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., had previously said she expected the matter to be resolved.
    Republicans have called for Rangel to step down from his chairmanship of the powerful Ways and Means panel during the investigation. The expanding investigation means the ethics cloud hanging over Rangel is likely to follow him and Democratic leaders into the next Congress….

    As of today, this criminal has yet to step down.
    No push by dims either.

    Honestly only counts when it’s a republican under the gun. Not when the democrats are the sponsors of the culture of corruption.

  148. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSTRE4BU53T20090102?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0&sp=true

    From Reuter’s, government wants to bail out newspaper’s?

    Isn’t that?? Wait a tic??? Government buying up our press? Government ran press??? Doesn’t China do that too?

  149. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Reuters

  150. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    “I have no idea who JJ or Max are.”

    Funny, I recall you making lunch plans with Max. I think you were going to meet at the Cracker Barrel on I-35. I could do a bone dig, but frankly I don’t care about going to the trouble.

    Your insults are getting worse all the time. And, contrary to what you might think, your criticisms are useful to me in suggesting that I am on the right track.

    So, if you want to quit helping me, you might want to lay off your pit bull attacks. Either way is fine, though, because lets face it, anyone with any sense never listens to you anyway. So, carry on…

  151. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Notice Bluejay used the words “haven’t been caught” instead of I have not told a lie?

    Very telling for the troll JM=JR=Bluejay.

  152. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    cosmos,
    If you are so inclined I would be interested in hearing from you on this throw away email address:
    WilliamJames54@gmail.com

  153. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:53 am | Permalink
    “I have no idea who JJ or Max are.”

    Funny, I recall you making lunch plans with Max. I think you were going to meet at the Cracker Barrel on I-35. I could do a bone dig, but frankly I don’t care about going to the trouble.

    ——————
    You are truly a delusional idiot. Better start that bonedig.

    ————-
    chas, ::, square peg, sugar, Northern Neighbor, SFreader, et al…

    These are the ones I know for certain are you. Deny all you want but I exposed you under these names. Curse, deny, throw fits – it doesn’t matter. You and steven must be drinking the same koolaid.

    And do you have a problem with sports figures going into politics. These men afterall did have the credentials for the job. Ventura didn’t. He could barely speak a coherent sentence.

  154. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    The War in Iraq (AP)

    COST:

    _Nearly $585 billion so far, according to the National Priorities Project.

    OIL PRODUCTION:

    _Prewar: 2.58 million barrels per day.

    _Dec. 14, 2008: 2.40 million barrels per day.

    ELECTRICITY:

    _Prewar nationwide: 3,958 megawatts. Hours per day (estimated): 4-8.

    _Dec. 9, 2008 nationwide: 4,740 megawatts. Hours per day: 14.1.

    _Prewar Baghdad: 2,500 megawatts. Hours per day (estimated): 16-24.

    _Dec. 9, 2008 Baghdad: Megawatts not available. Hours per day: 14.3.

    Note: Current Baghdad megawatt figures are no longer reported by the U.S. State Department’s Iraq Weekly Status Report.

    TELEPHONES:

    _Prewar land lines: 833,000.

    _Oct. 2, 2008: 1,300,000.

    _Prewar cell phones: 80,000.

    _Oct. 2, 2008: 13.4 million.

    WATER:

    _Prewar: 12.9 million people had potable water.

    _Oct. 2, 2008: 20.9 million people have potable water.

    SEWERAGE:

    _Prewar: 6.2 million people served.

    COST: Lives:

    U.S. TROOP LEVELS:

    _October 2007: 170,000 at peak of troop buildup.

    _December 2008: 145,000.

    _Confirmed U.S. military deaths as of Jan. 2, 2009: At least 4,219.

    _Confirmed U.S. military wounded (hostile) as of Dec. 31, 2008: 30,920.

    _Confirmed U.S. military wounded (non-hostile, using medical air transport) as of Dec. 6, 2008: 35,141.

    _U.S. military deaths for December 2008: 14

    _Deaths of civilian employees of U.S. government contractors as of Sept 30, 2008: 1,264.

    END OF DATA

    Nothing on Iraqi death totals in this article.

  155. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    okobserver I agree. He has been caught. Everyone knows. Everyone knows how Chas is too.

    chas, ::, square peg, sugar, Northern Neighbor, SFreader, et al…

  156. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Very good info RoaCH. One death is too many and we as a nation have got to take care of this group of wounded warriors but the progress is astounding.

  157. TomPaine
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    “And do you have a problem with sports figures going into politics. These men afterall did have the credentials for the job. Ventura didn’t. He could barely speak a coherent sentence.” Neither could Sarah Palin. Actually Ventura as a Mayor and a Navy Seal/ Vietnam Vet had a much exp to run for high office as most politicians. In Fact Equal if not More than Obama and Palin and unlike McCain Jesse held down Jobs in the private sector too.

  158. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    I am not getting the rationale for putting posts on the “awaiting moderation” list.

  159. Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    I am not getting the rationale for putting posts on the “awaiting moderation” list.

    Did you use a dirty word?

  160. Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    f uck this $ hit

  161. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    I always enjoy looking at the Urban Dictionary ‘word of the day.’ I thought our little blog would all enjoy today’s word. Do you think tomorrow’s will be stfu?

    f/u
    January 5

    follow-up: to pursue in an effort to take further action
    “Thanks for the f/u. I can always count on you to resolve my concerns promptly.”

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/

  162. GMC70
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    I always enjoy looking at the Urban Dictionary ‘word of the day.’ I thought our little blog would all enjoy today’s word. Do you think tomorrow’s will be stfu?

    That depends, Linda. Which STFU do you refer to? We all know what Chas was saying, despite his denials; but there have been a number of more creative interpretations.

    I notice Chas has a habit of dancing around obscenities while his meaning is clear, and then denying same. It would be fitting to immortalize Chas/::/Square Peg in such a way.

    And, as a bonus, it could be fun, as Chas goes into a capslock/exclamation point frenzy.

  163. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    I was, of course, talking about any one or all of the “creative interpretations.” I think it would be even better if each was referenced with its geographical origin.

  164. george
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Another stupid government proposal in the name of greenhouse emissions. Add on the cost of a cow.
    http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20081230165231.aspx

  165. george
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Another stupid move in CA wanting to save the world with more greenhouse gas crap. Now it’s your flat screen TV. Go for it politicians.
    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tv3-2009jan03,0,2869589.story

  166. Grateful_Dave
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    BAGHDAD — The United States inaugurated its largest embassy ever on Monday, a fortress-like compound in the heart of the Green Zone _ and the most visible sign of what U.S. officials call a new chapter in relations between America and a more sovereign Iraq.
    U.S. Marines raised the American flag over the adobe-colored buildings, which sit on a 104-acre site and has space for 1,000 employees _ more than 10 times the size of any other American Embassy in the world.
    “Iraq is in a new era and so is the Iraqi-U.S. relationship,” Ambassador Ryan Crocker proclaimed.
    In perhaps an unintended sign of the new relationship, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki did not attend Monday’s ceremony because he was traveling in Iran, a country the U.S. has accused of aiding and arming Iraqi militants.
    Explaining the opening of such a large embassy three years before the U.S. must finish withdrawing its 146,000 troops from Iraq, Crocker told The Associated Press that it is vital for the U.S. to remain involved in nonmilitary ways.

  167. Posted January 5, 2009 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Dave,

    Can you think of a more provocative target for extremists?

  168. GMC70
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    I think it would be even better if each was referenced with its geographical origin.

    LOL.

  169. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    “US president-elect Barack Obama has chosen former lawmaker and White House chief of staff Leon Panetta to head the Central Intelligence Agency, US media reported Monday.”

    Clinton’s Chief of staff.
    Change you can believe in.

  170. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Change back to what worked! We know for sure nothing has worked well for the last eight years.

  171. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    #
    george
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Another stupid government proposal in the name of greenhouse emissions. Add on the cost of a cow.
    http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20081230165231.aspx
    #
    george
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Another stupid move in CA wanting to save the world with more greenhouse gas crap. Now it’s your flat screen TV. Go for it politicians.
    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tv3-2009jan03,0,2869589.story
    ________________________________________

    The AGW crowd is desperate of enact their Draconian laws before the data proves them wrong so they can claim they saved the world. Case closed we all lose.

  172. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Already starting the back pedaling…”Change® back“. Nothing’s new.

    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

  173. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Criminals all. I look forward to the day, not so far into the future, where these people are indicted, tried, convicted and hanged for treason. Bushco, Clintonco and now, the new and improved OBAMACO.

  174. Grateful_Dave
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Sol,
    Yea, a big green target for years to come.

    Pleefer: “I look forward to the day, not so far into the future, where these people are indicted, tried, convicted and hanged for treason. Bushco, Clintonco and now, the new and improved OBAMACO.”

    Exactly who will be doing the indicting?

  175. Grateful_Dave
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Doesn’t this make you proud to be an American?

    Cheney: Bush’s actions legal if not impeached
    Andrew McLemore
    Published: Sunday January 4, 2009

    If you don’t get punished, you didn’t go anything wrong, right?

    That’s the message Vice President Dick Cheney gave in an interview with CBS’ Bob Schieffer on Sunday, suggesting that a president’s actions are legal if those actions didn’t result in his impeachment.

    Asked by Schieffer if he believed that anything the president does in time of war is legal, Cheney said there is “historic precedent of taking action that you wouldn’t take in peacetime.”

    Cheney referenced Abraham Lincoln as an example of another president who “suspended the writ of habeus corpus” during a war, prompting this exchange:

    SCHIEFFER: But nobody thinks that was legal.

    CHENEY: Well, no. It certainly was in the sense he wasn’t impeached. And it was a wartime measure that he took that I think history says today, yeah, that was probably a good thing to do.

    The vice president spent much of the interview defending eight years of the Bush administration’s policies, including its surveillance and interrogation programs.

    When Schieffer asked if the Bush administration had gone “too far” in its surveillance program, Cheney said no.

    “I don’t believe we violated anybody’s civil liberties,” he said.

    Cheney also urged President-elect Barack Obama to continue the Bush administration’s interrogation policies.

    “I would hope [Obama] would avoid doing what others have done in the past, which is letting the campaign rhetoric guide his judgment in this absolutely crucial area,” Cheney said. “We were very careful, we did everything by the book, and in fact we produced very significant results.”

  176. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    donndublin posted January 5, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    The AGW crowd is desperate of enact their Draconian laws before the data proves them wrong so they can claim they saved the world. Case closed we all lose.
    —————-

    Nope! It’s you AGW deniers who are so desperate you believe falsehoods from Harold Ambler, a musician/boat rowing book author who thinks the issue is about carbon DIZERO. LOL!

    We’ve got the science, and the data that supports the AGW theory. Future El Nino’s, larger losses of Arctic sea ice, etc, will cause you deniers to be seen for the ignorant fools that you really are.

  177. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    “If you don’t get punished, you didn’t go anything wrong, right?”

    Maybe you people should have done something about it, instead of jabber about it.
    Cowards!

  178. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Richardson and Hillary read from the same book.

    “WASHINGTON: A developer in New York state donated $100,000 to former President Bill Clinton’s foundation in November 2004, around the same time that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton helped secure millions of dollars in federal assistance for the businessman’s mall project.”

  179. Grateful_Dave
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Fleetwood – why don’t you suggest exactly what we “people” can do about it.

    Otherwise, kiss my ass!!

  180. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Impeach. That was easy.

  181. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    “Panetta was a surprise pick for the post, with no experience in the intelligence world.”

    Brilliant!

  182. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos the world biggest denier. The ice cap isn’t melting. It is at the same point it was in 1979. Are you really so pig headed that you can’t read and recognize what the words say. There is no global warming. It is only in the minds of the most feeble among us.

    You need to get a life or a different job or new interests or just something to get your mind off GW. It isn’t happening!

  183. Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Okie LIES yet again!!! LOL

    “chas, ::, square peg, sugar, Northern Neighbor, SFreader, et al…

    These are the ones I know for certain are you. Deny all you want but I exposed you under these names. Curse, deny, throw fits – it doesn’t matter. You and steven must be drinking the same koolaid.”
    =============================================

    If you are so damn sure of yourself, you stupid wench, PROVE IT!!! You claim it, you PROVE it…. right here… today….

    We will all await your absurd response… I am sick and tired of dealing with your crap… I am calling you out on this one, once and for all…

  184. Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    CIA Director is an administrative post – Panetta doesn’t need to be a spook.
    The Agency needs a steady, experienced hand to rebuild the standing and the reputation of an important organisation that has been badly hurt the 9/11 disaster and the the politicalisation of intelligence by the Bush/Cheney?Rummy gang.

    The Agency has been bleeding talent. After all, when the White House can expose a covert agent with no consequences………

    I think Panetta can fill the bill. As Clinton’s White House Chief of Staff, he has experience at the highest levels of our government.

  185. Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    BTW, Okie, you didnt expose anything, because there isnt anything to expose!!

    So, either put up, or shut up… Got it???

  186. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Thousands of scientists say global warming IS happening.

    A few disreputable cons on this blog say it isn’t.

    I know who I’m gonna go with.

  187. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    “If you are so damn sure of yourself, you stupid wench, PROVE IT!!!”

    From our fake preacher. So mote it be.

  188. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    “The Agency needs a steady, experienced hand…”

    I agree,

    “Panetta was a surprise pick for the post, with no experience in the intelligence world.”

  189. Grateful_Dave
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    “Impeach. That was easy.”

    Impeachment is off the table.

    Next suggestion please.

  190. Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Okie says:

    “And do you have a problem with sports figures going into politics. These men afterall did have the credentials for the job. Ventura didn’t. He could barely speak a coherent sentence.”

    No, I dont… The reason I listed them upthread, is because of the negative connotations given to the actor/celebrity genre also listed upthread… I merely point out that sports figures are also celebrity status… And I also mention them without any mention of political party… Watts and Bunning are Republicans… Bradley is a Democrat… as is Franken…

    Ventura is neither… However, he does hold some fairly decent university degrees(one PhD) and has had many years in private sector work as well… Very qualified to be governor of Minnesota, or most any state… And if you think Ventura cant put sentences together, I would only have to think you have never listened to any of his speeches…. He is a VERY good speaker…

  191. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    “Impeachment is off the table.”

    Why? If Bush has done the things you people say he has done, impeach. But, he hasn’t, has he?

    I guess Cheney is right.

    Cheney said. “We were very careful, we did everything by the book, and in fact we produced very significant results.”

  192. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    “Exactly who will do the indicting?”

    No one, we’ll just let crime go rampant, forget it. Corruption is a good thing and there is no reason to question anything anyone does in government. Maybe if this country gets corrupt enough, we can all feel ok about stealing from our neighbors and friends and families. I hope more lies are told to get us into more justified wars , actually I wish we would just bomb the f uck out of every other country. We have the nukes for it, why not? F uck em. We America, we’re ALWAYS f uckig right. MIGHT IS RIGHT. I’m actually starting to like the idea of zero accountability.

  193. Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Why on earth would anyone be opposed to moves to make our appliances more energy efficient?

    It reminds of the time way back when the auto companies serially opposed: safety glass (people used to be ripped to shreds in even minor accidents); seat belts; airbags; higher fuel efficiency standards.

    All of these advances which benefit all were implemented by big bad government pressure.

  194. Grateful_Dave
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know what he’s done or hasn’t done. I just don’t feel very proud of the leaders of my country right now. Can I impeach them? No – not in my power. But that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve it.

  195. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    “Why on earth would anyone be opposed to moves to make our appliances more energy efficient?”

    Is that what they tell you to say at moveon.org?

  196. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    okobserver posted January 5, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Cosmos the world biggest denier. The ice cap isn’t melting. It is at the same point it was in 1979. Are you really so pig headed that you can’t read and recognize what the words say. There is no global warming. It is only in the minds of the most feeble among us.
    ————-

    Poor okobserver’s “feeble” mind just cannot understand very simple facts.

    It’s normal to have lots of Arctic sea ice in the winter — the melting during the summer is the important issue.

    Summer sea ice reflects solar energy. Loss of summer sea ice allows the ocean to absorb solar energy, causing more warming, and more ice melting.

    BOTH the AREA and THICKNESS of the sea ice is important.

    THIN ice melts easier/faster than thicker ice

    There’s a record amount of THIN new one-year ice, due to record loss of ice during the summer of 2007 and 2008.

    Some of the remaining multi-year is also THINNER, due to a warmer ocean melting it from underneath.

    It’s looks unlikely that the multi-year ice will be able to recover, unless there is a significant, multi-year cooling trend in the Arctic.

    The warming trend in the Arctic is very likely to continue.

  197. Grateful_Dave
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer,
    Impeachment is off the table. No one in Washington is going to do a damn thing about the current administration because they all scratch each other’s backs.

    I think you have the scenario of our future pretty well pegged.

    “When the world is running down, make the best of what’s still around” The Police

  198. Phantom
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    The SEC had a whistleblower against Madoff, had numerous tips and complaints, had a company that was being audited by a 3 man firm (against the rules for the independent auritor to derive over 10% of income from client), and still didn’t detect wrong doing.
    Now the SIPC with 1.5 bil. will be bankrupt, and have to go to congress to get the money required to pay back for the incompetent Admin. running of the SEC.

  199. Phantom
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Panetta can’t be any worse than some of bush’s appointees, or even as bad a bush 1.

  200. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!, let the guvmunt bail em out! Don’t let the Eagle fly away!

    Just jokin’, the only use the Eagle serves is this blog. And even this blog’s not that useful, just the same used up arguments, rehashed into a new heading day in, day out. The same tired battles by the same tired “fighters”, getting through to no one and winning zero ground either way.

    As for “news”, the Eagle and for that matter, all print “news sources” (newsletters and pamphlets like the Pre-Revolutionary Wars’, “The Alarm”, exempt) are just caput, over and done.

    See ya! Bring on the guerrilla newspapers.

    Hello future!

  201. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    American Way, can you please inform me how a campaign donation is a war crime?

  202. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Arctic Sea Ice Is Suddenly Getting Thinner As Well As Receding
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081027200309.htm

  203. Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Moveon.org does not seem to have a position on Big Flat Screen TVs. I do. Energy efficiency is smart.

  204. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    G-Dave, you are a man of reason, that’s easy to see. If enough, good American’s march on their own towns and…nevermind, they’ll just call us terrorists and neutron bomb us. The military-industrial complex has pretty much completed its 70 year coup. They weren’t in any hurry and we’re all just stupid enough now, to let it slide.

  205. Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    DavidB — I didnt realize TV’s are appliances now… However I did hear aabout some company who has some ideas about using some sort of acoustical gadget to make refrigerators work without so much energy use… Sounded fairly interesting….

  206. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    I am not getting the rationale for putting posts on the “awaiting moderation” list.

    Did you use a dirty word?
    * * * * *

    No, not even close.

  207. parkay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Nearly 1000 clinics in British schools have dispensed risky morning-after abortifacients without parental knowledge or consent to schoolgirls as young as 11 for the past 6 years, but teenage pregnancies and surgical abortions continue to rise every year. Easy availability of the abortifacients has contributed to promiscuity and venereal diseases amongst British schoolchildren, instead of alleviating any problems whatsoever.
    The long-term effects of frequent use of the abortifacient drug, with its significant side effects, are still unknown.
    - – -

    Annshalike Shanta Hamilton, 15, a 7-months-pregnant runaway, was found December 15, her frozen body beaten to death and abandoned in a Minneapolis, MN garage, near her last known address. Her baby died because of her death, and the crime is ruled a double homicide. Police will investigate the supposed father of the dead baby.
    Homicide is the leading cause of death of pregnant mothers.
    - – -

    “When history looks back to this era it should recognize this generation as one which cared about human beings enough to halt the practice of war, to provide a decent living for every family, and to fulfill its responsibility to its children from the very moment of conception.”
    . . . “pro-life” Senator Ted Kennedy, in a letter of August 3, 1971, prior to selling out to the abortion lobby, prior to the legalization of infanticide by the renegade U.S. Supreme Court, who, like Obamanation, said they didn’t know when human life begins

  208. Grateful_Dave
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    I truly believe our last best chance to save this country was back in the sixties and the culture, at the time, swallowed the voice of sanity.

    So, damn the torpedoes and it’s every man for himself.

  209. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    My, is it 5pm already? Parkay is right on time as usual.

  210. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    In response to germ’s 12:05pm post:

  211. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    donndublin posted January 5, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    The AGW crowd is desperate of enact their Draconian laws before the data proves them wrong so they can claim they saved the world. Case closed we all lose.
    —————-

    Nope! It’s you AGW deniers who are so desperate you believe falsehoods from Harold Ambler, a musician/boat rowing book author who thinks the issue is about carbon DIZERO. LOL!

    We’ve got the science, and the data that supports the AGW theory. Future El Nino’s, larger losses of Arctic sea ice, etc, will cause you deniers to be seen for the ignorant fools that you really are.

    ____________________________________________

    So, El Nino’s are responsible for the ice melt along with undersea volcanoes, solar winds, cosmic rays, natural greenhouse gasses 99.72% and the 0.28% manmade GHGs, ect, but you only want to blame man.

    Why don’t we try mandating, regulating and taxing the others as well.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/03/0317_040317_elnino.html

    I bet you think AGW is responsible for El Ninos but not so for La Ninas

  212. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    A non-denial denial. Richard Nixon would be proud.

  213. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    And I guess you did not catch the part where I said I did not care enough to do one. Believe it or not, you just aren’t that important that anyone would want to persecute you.

  214. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Live with it.

  215. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    The above was a whole post that was put on the “awaiting moderation” list. Posted in pieces does not trigger the bot. It seems pretty sensitive to me. As I said nothing even close to bad words.

  216. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    donndublin posted January 5, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    I bet you think AGW is responsible for El Ninos but not so for La Ninas.
    ————–

    Nope.
    But you AGW deniers insist that recent short-term cooling caused by La Ninas, compared to warming caused by the record 1998 El Nino, prove that AGW is not happening.

  217. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Will history repeat itself? With the AGW crowd mandating food supplies for fuel and the lack of efficient energy for the developing world, hundreds of millions will be competing for the scarce food supplies resulting in more war, disease and famine.

    “Competition, Not Climate Change, Led To Neanderthal Extinction, Study Shows”

    source:

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081229105039.htm

  218. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    donndublin posted January 5, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    I bet you think AGW is responsible for El Ninos but not so for La Ninas.
    ————–

    Nope.
    But you AGW deniers insist that recent short-term cooling caused by La Ninas, compared to warming caused by the record 1998 El Nino, prove that AGW is not happening.
    _________________________________

    I bet you think you can prove a negative.

  219. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    No, G-Dave, I think the 60’s was a great start, but was dissolved by hard drugs and scattered minds. I feel the seeds were planted and now that things are waaay beyond anything (politically) that the 60’s had, I think the young, mad and patriotic Americans do stand a chance of taking it back. I KNOW that the “members” of the so-called “Truth Movement” that I am also a fervent “member” of are more than willing to sacrifice and shed blood (if needed, and God, I hope not) to reclaim our country.

    I find it funny that they’ll call Ayers a terrorist when he warned everyone what was going to happen. The Israeli’s “warn” folks in Gaza what’s going to happen, yet aren’t considered terrorists. 47% of Palestinians are under the age of 15, but they can’t help it. They are forced to live in third world conditions while being the servant class for Israel and reproduce like a third world country. But whatever.

    Sorry about that tangent, just thought of Ayers there.

    In any case, any dissent nowadays will be construed as “terrorism” and with the USAPatriot Act, renditions and being held secretly and indefinitely would and will eventually be commonplace here. The show “24″ is acclimating the average stupid American into allowing and agreeing with torture and secret incarceration.

  220. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    Sam (The Sham) Brownback must really be a masochist. In preparation to run for governor against Monkeyhawk (although Monkeyhawk is clearly on record as not a candidate), performed his first act of public corporal mortification at a presser announcing he’s trying to raise money to finance his doomed battle against Monkeyhawk.

    Brownback began his press conference and announcement with a a typical Opus Dei: self-flagellation with a five-tailed whip while chanting the Salve Maria. The podium hid from reporters any view of the uncomfortable spikes typically worn on the inside of cult-members’ (whose members are all male ) trousers.

    First the GOP gave us Mitt Romney’s not-so-magic underwear. Now it’s Brownback’s barbed-wire jock strap.

  221. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    pleefer the difference in Ayers and Israel. Hamas is shooting rockets at Israel. Ayers was just a pampered little boy who no one was trying to hurt.

    I know that is a distinction that the dems find hard to see but true none the less.

    And while you complain about how Palestinians are treated remember that the other arab states treat them as outcasts and nomads. They get no respect from Saudi or Iran because they have always been a people who lives off the fruit of others work. They want Israel because the Isralies have improved the land and modernized the cities. They can take care of themselves and now the palestinians want to reap the fruit of the Isralies hard work.

  222. okobserver
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    MH you are certainly fixated on other mens underwear today. Is this a fetish you have always had and it is just getting worse or is this a new thing for you.

    There might be help for you somewhere..

  223. fleettwood
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    “Energy efficiency is smart.”

    Did change.gov tell you to say that?

  224. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Not just “other men’s underwear,” “okobserver” –

    I’ve been doing laundry all day and have been dealing with my own.

    The skid marks remind me of you.

  225. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Observer, are you an expert on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict? Or are you just spouting today’s talking points? Israel broke the damned cease-fire, not Hamas.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2008/1230/1230581467173.html?via=mr

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/31/cnr.07.html

    I treat Saudi Arabia like a PARIAH because they sent 19 hijackers to land planes in the WTC complex on 9-11 and no one says a damned thing.

    And why do you care about those Persians? Aren’t they a rogue govmunt anyway?

    And one more fugging thing, I’m not a figging “Democrat”. Fugg both of your party’s. Two branches of the same goddam tree.

  226. mxyzptlk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    okie likes to lick skidmarks…she’ a work.

  227. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    donndublin posted January 5, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    I bet you think you can prove a negative.
    ———————-

    donndublin, trying to explain the differences between ENSO and AGW to you would be a complete waste of time.

  228. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Good protestations, Monkeyhawk! I believe you will be the most effective non-candidate who has ever not run!

    I know I will enjoy the lack of campaign!

    Did you ever tell me which party it is you are not going to represent?

  229. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    That’s because it’s junk science a.k.a. political science cosMo.

  230. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    “lindainks55″ asks –

    “Did you ever tell me which party it is you are not going to represent?”

    That’s a very good question, “lindainks55,” and I’m glad you asked because it’s important.

    On a metaphysical level, since I am not a candidate for Governor of Kansas, I suppose I could take the “politician’s” way out and give you a lot of double-talk, vagueness, and obfuscation and say I am not a candidate for governor (despite the groundswell of support showing up at Jeremy Shops’ mailbox — jeremy_shops@hotmail.com — a movement I have not endorsed) for any political party. Or, to be more precise, I am not a candidate for governor in every political party.

    But I’m not that kind of non-candidate. I think a non-candidate should be open an candid with civic-minded people such as you, “lindainks55.” You deserve to get a straight-to-the-point, no wiggle-room answer from a reluctant non-candidate for governor.

    The answer is “no.”

    I never did tell you which party I am not a candidate for governor.

  231. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    donndublin posted January 5, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    That’s because it’s junk science a.k.a. political science cosMo.
    —————-

    No donndublin — trying to explain the differences between ENSO and AGW to you would be a complete waste of time, because you do not understand climate science.

  232. Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    And soon, we should be seeing some local weather report, for some place that is just now recording a new low temperature reading…

    :-)

  233. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Proof of global warming! I am convinced…almost..

    http://www.rense.com/general78/montana.htm

  234. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Should make moose hunting easier!

  235. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    I do know that they are NATURAL, as have occurred long before claim man had an effect on the oceans.

    “ENSO conditions seem to have occurred at every two to seven years for at least the past 300 years, but most of them have been weak.

    Major ENSO events have occurred in the years 1790-93, 1828, 1876-78, 1891, 1925-26, 1982-83, and 1997-98.[20]

    Also, there is evidence for strong El Niño events during the early Holocene.[21]”

    source: wikipedia

    I also know that the more we learn about the climate the more we realize that it’s more complex than some like to admit. Some however claim however that it’s all settled or that they have irrefutable or absolute knowledge.

  236. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    I getting tired so I’m going home. Nice try cosMo, but you only make me more of a skeptic.

  237. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    Whoa…I’ve been seeing more and more folks on here citing Jeff Rense for sourcing and news articles.

    Weird.

    He’s just another “nut” and “twoofer” like me. He’s NOT to be trusted.

  238. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    AGW is just a smoke screen for a power grab. That is it.

    Anyone who can think can see how obvious it is.

    Libs, take your emotions out of the picture and you will see the wool is over your eyes.

  239. donndublin
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    #
    Chas
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    And soon, we should be seeing some local weather report, for some place that is just now recording a new low temperature reading…

    :-)
    _______________________

    or some new report from cosMo that the sky is falling because man is evil.

  240. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Gotta admit it. That IS very convincing.

    And yeah, what a great way to tax us even more. Only this time, we’ll need a permit to breathe.

  241. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    The answer is “no.”

    I never did tell you which party I am not a candidate for governor.

    ———-

    I’m still laughing! I read intently through the whole emphatic declaration of not running, and when I got to the end, that just cracked me up!

    Is the e-mail address also where I send my non-contribution to your non-candidacy?

  242. mxyzptlk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    No need to impeach Bush or Cheney or any of the sucky crooked RepubliCONs!

    Appoint Leon Panetta to head the CIA and many of them can just disappear to third world torture nations.

    Be afraid cons, be very afraid.

    Obama has ALL the power pantywaist Bush/Cheney had and he WILL use it.

  243. mxyzptlk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Fixing the economy will go hand in hand with disposing of the Republicans responsible for this depression.

  244. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    ANTI posted January 5, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    AGW is just a smoke screen for a power grab. That is it.
    ———————-
    Yeah, right! Arrhenius had plans back in the 1890’s for a global “power grab”. /sarcasm OFF

  245. outlander
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Oh look, the mixedupletterboy, is the grim reaper. He’s funny.

  246. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Did you all see this?

    http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/01/05/abc-news-desperate-to-ignore-homeland-security-blimp-claim-ufo-over-salt-lake-city/

  247. mxyzptlk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    outlander (the defiled church boy) makes a funny.

  248. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Be afraid cons, be very afraid.
    ——————

    Of what?

    Tax cuts?

    No universal health care?

    HAHAHAHAHA, and so forth!

  249. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    mxyzptlk,

    If HE was indeed Change®, HE’d rescing those f uck edup powers that Bushco gave themselves. BUT! Since HE’s absolutely the same as Bushco (only blacker), nothing will of course, Change®.

    You seem informed, using the word depression, is very informed as it is true (according to The Economist” magazine), yet you’re still stuck in the left/right tail chasing.

    C’mon man!?!?!, you gotta be better than that. Leave stupid to GMC.

  250. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    rescind, even.

  251. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    donndublin posted January 5, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    I also know that the more we learn about the climate the more we realize that it’s more complex than some like to admit. Some however claim however that it’s all settled or that they have irrefutable or absolute knowledge.
    ————-

    The AGW theory is basically settled.

    But there are remaining questions, like how much additional warming will natural systems add to AGW in the future? And how will climate change in different regions?

    Those questions depend on how fast humans can reduce GHG’s, and various unknown natural factors.

  252. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    If HE was indeed Change®, HE’d rescing those f uck edup powers that Bushco gave themselves. BUT! Since HE’s absolutely the same as Bushco (only blacker), nothing will of course, Change®.
    ——————–

    Right on!

  253. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    Germie offers:
    “You are truly a delusional idiot.”

    That was so grandmotherly of you to help me with that. I am betting if your family had any idea about how awful you act here, they’d take away your keyboard. But, maybe they’re like you and have no ability to experience shame.

  254. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    “I am betting if your family had any idea about how awful you act here, they’d take away your keyboard.”

    heheheh

    or maybe…

    “she” doesnt really have a family, or a husband, or a business, or well, anything.

    “She” just has words on a page…

  255. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    “The AGW theory is basically settled.”

    BULL!

  256. mxyzptlk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    “She” just has words on a page…

    and wet legs from her fear of anything real.

  257. mxyzptlk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    bbbbbaaaaaawwwwwww bawk bawk baaaaawwwwwkkkkkkk!

  258. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    The only significant ‘Change’ that’s going to take place is the DimLibs changing their soiled pants as they realize things are not going to change like they thought they would. Funny!

  259. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    bbbbbaaaaaawwwwwww bawk bawk baaaaawwwwwkkkkkkk!
    ==================

    How clever…

  260. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    All in the name of god(s)

    “He” must be so proud…

    An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_israel_gaza_overwhelmed_hospital

    And Israel has what, four dead?

  261. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    damn jews!

  262. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    ANTI,
    That ‘misfit’, or ‘mys-hi-t’, or whatever his nic is, here let me look…’mxyzptlk’, is mindless, and juvenile beyond ridiculous.

  263. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    ANTI,
    That ‘misfit’, or ‘mys-hi-t’, or whatever his nic is, here let me look…’mxyzptlk’, is mindless, and juvenile beyond ridiculous.
    ————-

    Oh yes, I am quite aware.

  264. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    I think I will side with the ones that do NOT want to saw everyone’s heads off that are not like them.

  265. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    “’mxyzptlk’, is mindless, and juvenile beyond ridiculous”

    Heheheh.

    But he’s not a deliberate liar or a coward. Like bigotbawks.

  266. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    …and actually, he’s pretty damned funny.

    Unlike others who’ve obviously had their sense of humor surgically removed…

  267. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Chas
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 4:06 pm | Permalink
    BTW, Okie, you didnt expose anything, because there isnt anything to expose!!

    So, either put up, or shut up… Got it???
    ————————

    From the ‘preacher’ who’s on the leftist 1% of all preachers.

  268. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    You’d think the stupid Hamas militants would learn that their own activities do nothing to accomplish what they think they want, but only bring destruction on themselves and their families.

  269. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Remember this folks, under Bush’s Tax Cut for the Rich, 1/3 of tax filers PAY ZERO INCOME TAX BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO POOR!

    What freaking more do ya want?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/05/stimulus-package-obama-inauguration-unlikely/

    “This relief won’t be limited to people who actually pay taxes. Remember there are approximately 157 million federal tax returns filed every year, but just over 100 million of those actually pay federal income taxes,” a Senate GOP aide told FOX News.

  270. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    You’d think the stupid Hamas militants would learn that their own activities do nothing to accomplish what they think they want, but only bring destruction on themselves and their families.
    ==============

    They are but wild donkeys.

  271. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    “But he’s not a deliberate liar or a coward. Like bigotbawks.”

    You mean the guy that can make fools of your friends chicken farmer, and do so pretty much effortlessly because they are so naively stupid?
    Calling themselves a friend of yours pretty much proves that point, without my having to, but it was to much fun to pass up.

  272. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Oh how I HOPE Obama will bring PEACE to the Middle East.

    And if he doesn’t, well, it’s all George Bush’s fault! (And the fault of the Democrats who voted to go to war, AND repeatedly voted to FUND the war.)

  273. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Cons. It’s always the OTHER guy that forces them to do evil things. What’s with you always blaming the other guy for your sins?

  274. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    These two links don’t seem to be in complete agreement. Maybe the polar bear in charge of the camera fuc…messed up. Or he’s dead cause the ice froze over him.

    http://www.socc.ca/seaice/seaice_current_e.cfm

    http://www.nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/

  275. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    Just stick with that story bigotbawks, and keep repeating it as many times as necessary.

    SOME day, SOME one will buy it.

    heheheh. HAHAHAHAAAHHAAHH.

    Remind me again which church condones deliberate lies?

  276. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    Hee hee heeeee….

    Still chuckling. The whine about “Mom, he MADE me do it” hasnt worked since kindergarten.

    But keep trying bigotbawks. SOME one, SOME day may buy it.

  277. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    “Remind me again which church condones deliberate lies?”

    Yours, chicken farmer, yours.
    Your church of broken marriages, and lost careers, of envy and hate and vile tongue.
    Of that church you are certainly at least a deacon, maybe an elder.

  278. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Remember this folks, under Bush’s Tax Cut for the Rich, 1/3 of tax filers PAY ZERO INCOME TAX BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO POOR!

    What freaking more do ya want? — JimJohnson

    ——–

    What I think would be a great improvement is for each adult American to have gainful employment and pay taxes to an effective government of a country everyone was justified in feeling pride in.

    I don’t know any person who wants to be the freeloader many of you accuse people (who aren’t!) of being, or wanting to be.

    Government didn’t function under bushco, and he trashed American values. It was much more difficult to feel pride in our great country with bushco at the helm, and we know how poorly he used our tax dollars.

    lthough there is much work to be done, and it will take hard work, patience and diligence, Americans can begin this work in only:

    14 days, 13 hours, 58 minutes…

    It sure is going to be refreshing to get rid of bushco!

  279. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    See the web graphics for details, but it appears there are errors on the maps. Now toward the bottom of the page, it appears there is a graph error if you look at the Concentration Anomalies Concentration Trends. I believe they have Red where there should be Blue. And they have Blue where there should be Red. Now if these errors are corrected, then there is more Blue then Red.

    Look at the bottom of the page. Note the area at 10 am on the graph for Sea Ice Extent being less then normal, but the CONCENTRATION graph shows more concentration of ice than normal. Now how can ice be more concentrated IF THE ICE ISN’T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE?

    http://www.nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/

    We’re counting on this organization to SAVE THE PLANET and they have TYPOS on their graphs!

    I wonder what motivation this group would have for misleading us into thinking that Global Warming is worse then it actually is?

  280. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Now for both the 12:30 o’clock and 8:00 o’clock locations, sea ice EXTENT is more then normal going beyond the point where ice is expected, yet the CONCENTRATION is less than normal. Now how can the concentration be less than expected when there isn’t any ice expected to even be there at all? Hmmmm……..

    http://www.nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/

  281. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    A similar error appears near the Bearing Straight just off the Alaska coast. The Concentration is more than normal, but the Extent is less than normal? WTF?

    We’re counting on this organization to SAVE THE PLANET and they have TYPOS on their graphs!

    http://www.nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/

  282. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    Remind me again which church condones deliberate lies?
    ———————————

    The one percenters.

  283. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know any person who wants to be the freeloader many of you accuse people (who aren’t!) of being, or wanting to be.
    ————————————————

    To start with, Blue Jay.

  284. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:02 pm | Permalink
    It sure is going to be refreshing to get rid of bushco!
    ——————————–

    And specifically, (that means list a few detailed points) what exactly do you expect from Obama?

    Hope?
    Change?

    Hope for WHAT? (s p e c i f i c a l l y)

    Change of WHAT? (s p e c i f i c a l l y)

  285. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    I know BlueJay pretty well, and my statement remains true — I don’t know any person who wants to be the freeloader many of you accuse people (who aren’t!) of being, or wanting to be.

    When you say that you ‘know’ a blogger, or when you allow yourself to call names, it cheapens your arguments, and is generally unhelpful in encouraging discussions.

    Can you make your opinions known without judgments of anyone who may have come to a different conclusion?

  286. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    What I wanted to say in that second paragraph was:

    when you say that you ‘know’ a blogger and all you have are personal criticisms…

  287. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Can you make your opinions known without judgments of anyone who may have come to a different conclusion?
    =========================

    Linda,

    No one can, not in their heart(at the least look at your example).

    It’s called the human condition. ;)

  288. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:18 pm | Permalink
    I know BlueJay pretty well, and my statement remains true — I don’t know any person who wants to be the freeloader many of you accuse people (who aren’t!) of being, or wanting to be.

    When you say that you ‘know’ a blogger, or when you allow yourself to call names, it cheapens your arguments, and is generally unhelpful in encouraging discussions.

    Can you make your opinions known without judgments of anyone who may have come to a different conclusion?
    ———————————————

    Ahhhh, we should all bow down to St. Linda.

  289. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    “You’d think the stupid Hamas militants would learn that their own activities do nothing to accomplish what they think they want, but only bring destruction on themselves and their families”.

    Hamas was democratically elected, they are therefore by definition (which THERE IS ACTUALLY NO DEFINITION), not a terrorist organization. Which is why you use the word “militants”. But aren’t they at war? Israeli “terrorists” or “militants”?
    Are we, the USA, “militants” or “terrorists”? I mean, we’re at war as well and it’s bringing destruction to lots of American families AND bankrupting our country. For what? A safe and secure empire? Think outside the …umm..box..lock.

    Also, I’ll bet that Obama’s “unpopular” decision will be to involve US troops in this Israeli/Hamas bullsh it.

    Waiting…

  290. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    (I think that guy who was HOT for Linda must have gotten to her. She seems so self-satisfied today.)

  291. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    http://www.nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/

    Errors.

    Errors.

    Errors.

    All made in the name of a good cause though. Global Warming.

    What would we do without it?

  292. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    bawks posted January 5, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    “The AGW theory is basically settled.”

    BULL!
    —————
    Fossil-fuel industry and political BULL is all that you AGW deniers have.

    It has failed, and you’re running out of time.

  293. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    (I think that guy who was HOT for Linda must have gotten to her. She seems so self-satisfied today.)
    ============

    Come on Jim,

    I would have been ‘hot’ for Linda if she was a decade or two younger. It is rare to find a woman that is calm and collected, even if she is wrong in my view.

  294. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    http://www.infowars.com/?p=6983

    A very good read and watch.

    James Bamford is THE man!

  295. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Loving me is easy cause I’m beautiful!

    woo wo WHO woo la-la-la-la!

    (Gotta love Oliva Newton John)

  296. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:23 pm | Permalink
    “You’d think the stupid Hamas militants would learn that their own activities do nothing to accomplish what they think they want, but only bring destruction on themselves and their families”.

    Hamas was democratically elected, they are therefore by definition (which THERE IS ACTUALLY NO DEFINITION), not a terrorist organization.
    ————————————-

    Oh not true! Not if free elections were not held. Remember how many times communist leaders were elected in the 20th century.

    And if there are enough terrorists, they surely would elect one of their own.

    So a democratic election does NOT prove the elected leaders are PURE or JUST or RIGHTEOUS.

  297. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Linda, that was a complement from me in a distorted round-a-bout way…

    I still think you are wrong mostly..

  298. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Oh and Pleefer, you have the luxury of not knowing what a terrorist organization is.

    I hope you live in the USA forever in ignorance of this meaning.

  299. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    (Gotta love Oliva Newton John)
    ================

    No, you don’t. Just don’t dig it!

  300. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    “Also, I’ll bet that Obama’s “unpopular” decision will be to involve US troops in this Israeli/Hamas bullsh it.
    Waiting…”—Pleefer

    I’m waiting too, and thinking the DimLibs didn’t get anything close to what they thought they were getting. Instead…’Barry, the Pied Piper’.

    By the way Pleefer, the Israelis do exactly what they say. They say they are going to kick butt, and the kick butt, and they do it with a honorable declaration.
    The greasy Hamas terrorists lob bombs and blow up themselves up in terrorist attacks.

  301. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Linda,

    No one can, not in their heart(at the least look at your example).

    It’s called the human condition. ;)

    ——–

    Anti, I know about that human condition and have suffered from that malady for many many years. ;-)

    But that doesn’t mean I won’t always try to make my point, express my opinion, without making judgments of others who have differing ones. And, if we could talk out those differences I would learn something, maybe even be able to teach something too. At least those willing to discuss would know there are different perspectives of that communique.

  302. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    So a democratic election does NOT prove the elected leaders are PURE or JUST or RIGHTEOUS.
    ——————-

    BINGO

  303. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    The list of justifications for killing the Jews is endless here.

    The same was true in Germany 70 years ago.

    History, and bigots, live to repeat history.

  304. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    But that doesn’t mean I won’t always try to make my point, express my opinion, without making judgments of others who have differing ones. And, if we could talk out those differences I would learn something, maybe even be able to teach something too. At least those willing to discuss would know there are different perspectives of that communique.
    ===============

    I can respect that.

  305. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:30 pm | Permalink
    bawks posted January 5, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    “The AGW theory is basically settled.”

    BULL!
    —————
    Fossil-fuel industry and political BULL is all that you AGW deniers have.

    It has failed, and you’re running out of time.
    ———————————————————–

    How much time do we have?

    Let’s party!

    Didn’t Gore say we had 10 years to live – 10 years ago?

  306. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    BTW Linda, I have been told that I’ve been wrong many times. I am married!

  307. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    http://www.nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/

    When is RED actually BLUE, and BLUE actually RED?

    When you are trying to prove Global Warming and the End Being NEAR!!!!!

  308. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t Gore say we had 10 years to live
    ————–

    Oh Shiiiiitttt!! I’m out!! I gotta get some stuff done!!!!

  309. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    “Government didn’t function under bushco, and he trashed American values. It was much more difficult to feel pride in our great country with bushco at the helm..”

    Linda sweetheart, are you still on drugs from the sixties baby? Government functions as it always does – a terrible buracracy which Obama is sure to make even bigger. But if you want malfunction junction, just ask for more of the same.

    Pride is something which comes from within. It’s like this Linda honey: I don’t make you mad.

    You LET me, make you mad.

    Mind over matter. Once you decide that YOU control your own life, your own destiny, then you really can spread your wings and feel FREE! Then, and only then will that sense of accomplishment help you feel proud of yourself and your nation.

    That’s it Linda. Feel it!?

    Fly little white dove fly,
    way up high,
    spread your wings and cry
    across the universal sky!

    Surely you know ONE MAN does not make a country?

  310. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    We trained most of the “terrorists organizations” leaders. Either at The School of The Americas or when Robert Gates and Zbigniew Brzezinski created Al Qaeda in 1978. Our CIA, the World’s best and most thorough terrorist organization (next to and in cooperation with MI6 and The Mossad) have fostered and fomented more terror in this world than any tin-pot dictator could dream of. Our CIA installs and deposes these “terrorist” dictators and leaders at will.
    Google Kermit Roosevelt and Mohammed Mossedeq (Operation Ajax).

    And yeah, I’ll be laughing for a while about Obama, until I’m crying about him.

  311. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Turn your furnace off cosmos….go ahead and turn it off, it’s producing CO2.
    Put your money and actions up for folks to see, not just your chicken little words.

  312. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    “RoaCH” ejaculates –

    Loving me is easy cause I’m beautiful!

    woo wo WHO woo la-la-la-la!

    (Gotta love Oliva Newton John)

    Well, that’s always an option.

    But the song you cited was recorded by Minnie Ripperton.

    Are you CONs wrong about EVERYTHING?!

    You seem to be batting a thousand in this forum.

  313. lindainks55
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    From my ‘Quotes of the Day’ gadget at my iGoogle page:

    Happiness is always a by-product. It is probably a matter of temperament, and for anything I know it may be glandular. But it is not something that can be demanded from life, and if you are not happy you had better stop worrying about it and see what treasures you can pluck from your own brand of unhappiness.
    – Robertson Davies

    I liked that quote! And I think it bears some truth.

  314. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    I want my beloved country and Constitution back. I want everything that those patriots fought and died and sacrificed for. We never got a chance to live like we were supposed to, bankers and corporate devil men stole everything. They finished the deal with this “bail out” unless dimwitted America wakes up soon. A police state is already in order, it’s just a waiting game for the economy to fully implode and the people to get riled up, then Obama gets to unleash his dogs.

  315. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    I want my beloved country and Constitution back

    Idiot, Hello?! Your country is RIGHT HERE where it’s always been.

    The Constitution back? Forget it. Obama’s gonna come all over the 2nd Amendment with an executive order on day one or two.

  316. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Hell, maybe I am delusional. Delusional in thinking that American’s would actually care about anything. As has been said before, “none are more hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free”.

    Bread and circuses and they’ll lie down. Is economic slavery or serfdom really that appealing? Oh..oh…as long as there is Sunday football and Wal-Mart and McDonald’s…it’s all good?

    Now I get it.

  317. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Physical slavery requires that the master feed and house the slave.

    Economic slavery requires the slave to feed and house himself.

  318. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Turn your furnace off cosmos….go ahead and turn it off, it’s producing CO2.

    Hey Box, couldn’t he just adjust or extinguish the flame but leave it on just a little bit.

    Change = CO2 minus one of those pesky oxygen atoms.

    Just a little CO instead…..

    That would lower global warming. Me thinks.

  319. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:30 pm | Permalink
    (I think that guy who was HOT for Linda must have gotten to her. She seems so self-satisfied today.)
    ============

    Come on Jim,

    I would have been ‘hot’ for Linda if she was a decade or two younger. It is rare to find a woman that is calm and collected, even if she is wrong in my view.

    —————–

    She does seem happier today, doesn’t she?

  320. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Cockroach, fu ck yourself.

  321. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    C’mon, “Pleefer” –

    Even some CONs who might agree with you will shy away with paranoid rhetoric such as, “…then Obama gets to unleash his dogs.”

    The Obamas haven’t even picked out their first dog yet!

    “Paranoia strikes deep.
    Into your life it will creep.
    It starts when you’re always afraid….”

    (As “RoaCH” would say, ya gotta love Olivia Newton John.)

  322. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    fu cking pr ick.

  323. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Oh..oh…as long as there is Sunday football and Wal-Mart and McDonald’s…it’s all good?

    Yep, but don’t worry, those muslim kids are being brought up with dreams and training to kill all Americans.

    Eventually, we will come down to the utterly animalistic level. Take away our laptops and our XBox, and things can get pretty depression like.

  324. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    And Anti, who cares what they say, or if they even talk at all?

    Say Roach, just whisper some more sweet nuthins in her ear, maybe that will work. Get her, you know, in the mood.

  325. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s gonna come all over the 2nd Amendment with an executive order on day one or two.
    ————

    I think he will be to busy for that, however this leaves congress open to sneak something through.

    It could(can) happen. I am ready and have been for years out of recreation…I say bring it M.F.

  326. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Who gives a fu ck if you agree with me or not? Not me. You’re part of the goddam problem. I don’t want to be friends with any of you, I just try and get a message out. Take it or leave it. It’s irrelevant to me. You’re left/right divided and conquered false fu cking fight is what has fu cked this country. So it’s not my country. It’s the shambled piece of sh it that your party’s have left it.

  327. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    bawks and RoaCH,

    You’re wasting time making stupid attacks at me.

    You should be trying to find some credible science that refutes the AGW theory, so you can send it to the leader of your church of AGW denial, Sen. Inhofe.

  328. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    And Anti, who cares what they say, or if they even talk at all?
    ==================

    Ha, you don’t know me very well. Talk is cheap-look at the congress(D)! HAHAHAHAHA and so forth!

  329. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    When you get a few years on you, you will realize that a seasoned woman of say, 54 or 55 is twice the woman she was at twenty five. She knows what she wants. She knows how to satisfy and be satisfied.

    The BS games are gone. The self-consciousness of a deer in the headlights nieve girl are past tense.

    What you are left with is a real woman – who knows a thing or two about life and living. She knows what she wants and how to get it.

    Oh boy! I get excited just thinking about it!

    Linda Linda Linda
    do you love me?
    Linda Linda Linda
    do you care?!
    Linda Linda are you thinkg OF me,
    Linda Linda will you please be thereeee!

  330. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:00 pm | Permalink
    Physical slavery requires that the master feed and house the slave.

    Economic slavery requires the slave to feed and house himself.
    ——————-

    Oh, so we are better off being Serfs. Or Comrades.

  331. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer,

    Don’t stop posting.

    Even though some and even I disagree with you from time to time, doesn’t mean we don’t read.

    Give em’ hell, that is what I say.

  332. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Hell, I even like the left posting. IT IS OUR RIGHT!

  333. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH,

    The problem is not carbon dioxide (CO2)

    According to outlander’s source, it’s carbon DIZERO (C02).

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-14-2/#comment-497138

  334. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:04 pm | Permalink
    Obama’s gonna come all over the 2nd Amendment with an executive order on day one or two.
    ————

    I think he will be to busy for that, however this leaves congress open to sneak something through.

    It could(can) happen. I am ready and have been for years out of recreation…I say bring it M.F.
    —————————-

    Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 8:51 pm | Permalink
    A police state is already in order, it’s just a waiting game for the economy to fully implode and the people to get riled up, then Obama gets to unleash his dogs.
    ==========================+++++++++++++++++++++==========================

    And so a common theme of BRING IT ON emerges. Not wanting this to happen, but many of us are ready. Guns stores are bear of arms and ammo. The stocks of individuals bearing arms are now fully supplied.

    Most don’t wish this to occur, though we are ready for it.

    Pleefer, I think you are simply misunderstood, in spite of your 9:05 post.

  335. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    stupid attacks at me

    Cosmos, I don’t give a rats butt about you homeboy.
    I find your one track obsession hillarious and I usually do NOT take the time to enter into any worthless conversations with you about AG.

    I’m a realist. I live for today and plan for tomorrow.

    I am planning on palm trees. Lot’s of them.
    When given lemons, I will make lemonade.

    I won’t cry about how the lemon got, there nor will I be silly enough to believe I can change it into anything else – in my life time.

    But go right ahead. I found some interesting past posts on you and those who fed your flames before.

    I particularly like the one about Henny Penny and the Sky is Falling.

    So Baawk back at you. Be a hen.

    I’m a rooster.

  336. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    The Mideast is at war, the World may soon follow. Gobal markets have crashed and are in chaos.

    And Cosmos keeps hoping that we all fart less, to save the planet from Global Warming.

  337. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Most don’t wish this to occur, though we are ready for it.
    ————-

    Sadly, yes.

    But I am always optimistic, never unprepared.

  338. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    I prove my point when I can “get to” you folks on the left as well as the right. You’ll be remembering my “paranoia” later on when all of this insanity hits your faces.

    I wish I could see those faces when…

  339. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos is like the loyal maid in Hiroshima on 8/6/1945, running around with her feather duster to make sure the rubble is free from dirt.

  340. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    The problem is not carbon dioxide (CO2)

    You just don’t get it, do you? I don’t care.
    Let the artic ice melt. Let the last polar bear slip into the sea to join a million other extinct species. I can see real ones in the zoo, which is where 99.9% of humans see them anyway.

    I was suggesting you lower your flame to provide you some carbon monoxide. That would lower your carbon signature, would it not?

  341. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:06 pm | Permalink
    When you get a few years on you, you will realize that a seasoned woman of say, 54 or 55 is twice the woman she was at twenty five.
    ——————————————————————–

    With enough tobasco and barbeque, anything tastes good.

  342. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:16 pm | Permalink
    RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:06 pm | Permalink
    When you get a few years on you, you will realize that a seasoned woman of say, 54 or 55 is twice the woman she was at twenty five.
    ——————————————————————–

    Yes, double the sardines, I like the smell of fish.

  343. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    WHEeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (Turning on the fan!)

    That one is really aged and ripe!

  344. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    With enough tobasco
    ============

    You can drowned out anything with that stuff…mmmmm, Tabasco!

  345. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    But I am always optimistic, never unprepared.

    It was said in some of my early training:

    Believe for the best, but be prepared for the worst.

    That doesn’t mean you are negative and are resigned to the worst events.

    It means you are ready for whatever eventuality confronts you.

    Proper
    Prior
    Preparation
    PRecludes
    Pi*s
    Poor
    Performance

    THe 7 P’s of readiness

  346. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Thank you Roach,

    That was my intention.

  347. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Jim, you may be right about me being simply “misunderstood”. I hope so, but doubt it.

    I’ve been on here for almost 3 years telling folks to get guns, grain and gold.

    Mocked, laughed at. That’s what I got.

    I bought all of the above 5 years ago and have “made” lots of “profit” on it. I’d never sell anything that I’ve collected, but still.

    The warning signs have been given. The news is out there. Congressmen, business leaders, doctor’s, journalists, Nobel Pize winning economists…plenty of folks saying the same thing. Yet, some just like to “make a funny” about Henny Penny and “tin foil”. Whatever. Pretty soon sh it will be unbelievable to these funny folks. And I’ll be sad for them.

    Yeah, I use very bad language, but I get defensive when someone has to call me rude names. I’ll return the favor in kind.

  348. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    Well folks, I gotta get the North American Ostrich tomorrow. So you all have fun!

  349. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    And JJ you are just gross.

    Someday, when you are no longer a young grasshopper, you will appreciate the erotic nature and freedom afforded those cruising down the hill.

    They know things which would make your head spin.

    Not (cough,cough) that I’m old, or would know anything about that sort of thing. Just saying….
    so I’ve heard.

  350. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    “I’m a rooster.”

    Did the farmer give you a new nic?

    Or did you pick it out yourself?

  351. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer,

    Do you suppose the first two little pigs were laughing when their homes finally got blown down?

    Hang strong in your brick house. Lock the doors and don’t let the noise outside of the screaming neighbors rock your boat.

    Then you can laugh.

  352. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    I’m not so sad about a lot of you now. I’m reassured by most of you guys. I love humanity (as hokey as that sounds). I dig my brothers and sisters in this country as well as Hamas and Israel. I get on here and say all of this crap, not to make me look like a dumb ass, but to inform. To give you guys news you might not otherwise get. Granted, some may not get around the 9-11 thinking I have, but facts are overwhelming…if you actually read and learn for yourselves. Nothing is hidden. Hitler said, “the best place to hide something is right out in the open” and he also said, “the bigger the lie, the easier it is to believe”.

    Good luck ya’ll.

  353. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    Or did you pick it out yourself?

    Bluejay, I announced it. I did’t nic switch like a lowly troll.

    Isn’t that right JR, JM, and Bluejay?

  354. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:22 pm | Permalink
    Jim, you may be right about me being simply “misunderstood”. I hope so, but doubt it.
    ——————————————-

    Pleefer the evidence that you are correct is very clear. Just go try buying ‘common’ ammo today like 9mm, 40, or 45. Shelves that once held hundreds of guns in every gunshop are almost bare. Revovlers it seems are still aplenty.

    You be Sol? Doesn’t matter either way. Sol posted on the Fed Reserve consiparcy which I thought was BS. Ron Paul seemed extreme too.

    Guess who’s proven to be right now?

  355. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    “Change = CO2 minus one of those pesky oxygen atoms.
    Just a little CO instead…..
    That would lower global warming. Me thinks.”

    RoaCH, you’re a genius, a chemistry wizard, and maybe have come up with a solution to eliminate a real pain in the arse around here.

  356. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:24 pm | Permalink
    Well folks, I gotta get the North American Ostrich tomorrow. So you all have fun!
    —————————————-

    Is she busy tonight?

  357. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Night all! Bluejay is back to all day attack mode now that his one and only son is off to school being responsible again. I wonder if they share acne medicine?

    Thanks JJ for the tip about Cosmos. I found those old posts pretty funny. Keep the emails coming.

  358. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Is she busy tonight?
    ========

    Roosting…wait till’ daylight.

  359. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    “I announced it.”

    So did I.

  360. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    You’re the one scared of invisible, bearded Al-Qaeder’s hiding under your bed, not me brah.

    I fear nothing but my God (and no, it’s not some generic God-Mart,psuedo,Christian God that you might faux a genu-flect and eat a cracker to). I don’t fear Hamas, Osama bin Biden, Bushco, black helicopters, El Chupacabra, Bigfoot, Grey Aliens. Whatever. I try and fight the good fight. You? You fight for nothing if you fight at all.

  361. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    OK, gotta go. Gotta attend to bezniss monyona!

  362. ANTI
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    I fear nothing but my God (and no, it’s not some generic God-Mart,psuedo,Christian God that you might faux a genu-flect and eat a cracker to).
    —————-

    I hear that!

    Thanx Pleef.

    Peace out.

  363. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Bluejay,

    Here’s a tip. I’ve heard if you start earlier enough, your son won’t suffer the pits and scars his dad has:

    http://www.stridex.com/products.htm

  364. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:33 pm | Permalink
    Night all! Bluejay is back to all day attack mode now that his one and only son is off to school being responsible again. I wonder if they share acne medicine?

    Thanks JJ for the tip about Cosmos. I found those old posts pretty funny. Keep the emails coming.
    ——————-

    No problemo. Over and out. Catch you after emerging from radio blackout, make sure to transmit photos of the Earthrise.

  365. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    And instead of sheep, I am seeing poloar bears falling off the ice..

    One Polar Bear,
    Two Polar Bears,
    Three Polar Bears

    Snoooore! Snnnnnnnnnnnnoring!

  366. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    “your son won’t suffer the pits and scars his dad has:”

    I don’t have any.

  367. RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Maybe a Polar Bear pool?
    Like the Teddy Kennedy pool for when he croaks?

  368. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    No, I’m not Sol. He’s a good and honable dude though. Him and I disagree on a few items, but on the fundamentals, we’re solid. Ron Paul was the binder.

    I know I’m not crazy and regardless of what one might think…I laugh a lot. Heck, most of my posts on here are riddled with humor, albiet, sarcasm and facetiosness, but it’s still humor.

    I spend my days playing and laughing and spending as much time with my kid’s as I can. But I also prepare them for possible hardships that will come our way. They are learning to work hard and are learning to shoot. We garden together with heirloom seeds and we don’t waste time with television. They learn how not real our economic system is and how the Federal Reserve Note is nothing better than Monopoly money. My family spends time learning to rely upon and trust each other and NO ONE else. They learn that the police and their teachers are not necessarily their “friends”.

    I’m not “paranoid” or a “kook”, I’m a realist.

  369. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    At least more baby seals will survive.

  370. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    “RoaCH” channels his inner Bobby Sherman –

    “Linda Linda Linda
    do you love me?
    Linda Linda Linda
    do you care?!
    Linda Linda are you thinkg OF me,
    Linda Linda will you please be thereeee!”

    That’s really pathetic.

    What? You couldn’t think of an appropriate lyric from the 1910 Fruitgum Company?

  371. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:44 pm | Permalink
    Maybe a Polar Bear pool?
    Like the Teddy Kennedy pool for when he croaks?
    —————————————————–

    July 18, 2009.

    The 40th anniversary of the death of Mary Jo Kopechne.

  372. outlander
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH,

    The problem is not carbon dioxide (CO2)

    According to outlander’s source, it’s carbon DIZERO (C02).

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-14-2/#comment-497138

    ————

    Well, I had to go check out Cosmos’s contention because, well you know why. And sure enough, Cosmos had misrepresented the facts again. In fact the author of article he quoted wrote Co2 not C02 as Cosmos had alleged. So even when he gets ridiculously nit-picky, he goofs. That sort of thing happens when you are obsessed. Sad.

  373. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Ok Pleefer, you are no more certifiably nuts then anyone else, and likely, you are more prepared then most.

  374. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos, on the other hand, is really, really certifiably – Out There.

    He’s almost as entertaining as BJ and Chas, though a little more one tracked. I picture him sitting around a cold, unheated house, barely able to turn on the PC for fear of contributing to global warming.

    He doesn’t even make toast, to make sure he’s not heating the planet too much.

    And he’s afraid to fart, so he holds it in. (That explains much about his posts.)

  375. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    “JimJohnson” –

    Just to point out your utter ignorance and arrogance, I’m in a cozy, warm, two-story 5-bedroom, 3 bath home and (unless I burn the fireplace) have a zero carbon-footprint. It’s a heat pump, powered by Wolf Creek.

    Can they bury their nuclear waste in your back yard?

  376. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    J.J., you are cracking me up, and I want to hit the sheets and get to sleep soon, you are making it difficult to leave.

  377. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    outlander posted January 5, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Well, I had to go check out Cosmos’s contention because, well you know why. And sure enough, Cosmos had misrepresented the facts again. In fact the author of article he quoted wrote Co2 not C02 as Cosmos had alleged. So even when he gets ridiculously nit-picky, he goofs. That sort of thing happens when you are obsessed. Sad.
    ————-

    Here’s your link, outlander.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harold-ambler/mr-gore-apology-accepted_b_154982.html

    It’s C-ZERO-2 — search the page for “C0″ (letter “C”, number “0″)

  378. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH posted January 5, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    You just don’t get it, do you? I don’t care.
    Let the artic ice melt. Let the last polar bear slip into the sea to join a million other extinct species. I can see real ones in the zoo, which is where 99.9% of humans see them anyway.
    —————-

    Of course you don’t care, RoaCH. You only care about yourself.

    Because we don’t think about future generations, they will never forget us.” Henrik Tikkanen

  379. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos is just a mouthpiece for the Teddy Ruxpin Global Warming Club.

    He hopes that they will allow him to fly to the Cosmos in the Airship someday.

  380. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Hey cosmos?

    Upthread is Steven’s email. Get hold of him.

    I know a number of folks who want to meet you.

    And THANK YOU for your tireless work against the forces of ignorance.

  381. Pleefer
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Sometimes, the global warming hysteria that’s on here is the one thing that truly scares me.

    Here are some thoughts:

    “In a report titled “The First Global Revolution” (1991) published by the Club of Rome, a globalist think tank, we find the following statement: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. All these dangers are caused by human intervention… The real enemy, then, is humanity itself”

    AND!

    Richard Haass, the current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, stated in his article ‘State Sovereignty Must be Altered in Globalized Era,’ that a system of world government must be created and sovereignty eliminated in order to fight global warming, as well as terrorism. ‘Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function,’ says Haass. ‘Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves…’ Everyone, regardless of your position on global warming or the environment, must take into consideration the solutions that we are being given, as well as the forces behind them which seek to create a global system of domination and control.”

    That was long winded, sorry.

    Climate change is irrefutable and not yet proven to be man’s fault. But some very evil folks are exploiting it and sure making it seem like “man is evil” (maybe the commoner is evil to them).
    This is fact and we’ll soon be taxed on breathing.

    here’s the link,

    http://www.rense.com/general76/holhoax.htm

  382. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    JimJohnson,

    Tell bawks some more f@rt jokes. He loves those!

  383. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Yet BJ is still

    ignorant.

    Try harder Cosmos.

  384. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    “It’s a heat pump, powered by Wolf Creek. ”

    Westar uses mostly coal and some gas fired plants, only about 1.8% oil, as well as Wolf Creek. The generated power from Wolf Creek goes into the grid as does power from the others. You can not say your power comes exclusively from Wolf Creek.
    As far as I’m concerned all my power can come from coal and gas, or Wolf Creek, who cares as long as the power stays on.
    By the way your heat pump is not very efficient in this cold weather, surely it uses gas as back up, as does mine below approx. 45 to 50 degrees F.
    But right now I’m heating exclusively with my Jotal gas log direct vent stove that more than heats this two story house and then some, and doesn’t rely on electricity to operate.

  385. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Teddy Ruxpin
    Oh teddy…be with me on this lonesome day
    When i wake, i want you to be there in my arms
    I love to hear you say
    That you will never do me no harm
    Oh teddy…Teddy Ruxpin, how i miss you
    And soon teddy, yes soon, we will be together again
    Teddy when i work…
    I think of you…
    When i put in a tape, your mouth moves but not in unison with the words of the tape…
    But teddy, i can look past these faults, because you’re furry, and you remind me of softness and warmth…
    Your friend, double grubby never wronged you in any way…
    And you knew that…and to this very day…
    I respect you teddy, and you me too…
    and one day soon, we’ll be forever in paradise

  386. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer,

    Do you believe that Arrhenius’ goal when he developed the AGW theory long ago in the 1890’s was “globalization”?

    http://www.aip.org/history/climate/timeline.htm

  387. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    cosmos,
    I love visualizing you making yourself miserable trying to minimize your carbon footprint, but of course making absolutely no difference in anything.
    You are as much a part of the problem(?) as any, yet you make so much irritating noise about it.

  388. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Oh Pleefer,

    When Cosmos figures out the Earth is Cooling, the new enemy will be Global Cooling.

    SS, Different Name.

    Always
    Always
    Always

    Man is to blame.

  389. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Conservatism in exile means “guess my nic!” with the cons. Like it matters. They’re all the same narrow mind.

    And imagine! That ratty old coot “Regular” was prescient in this. HE was ahead of the game.

  390. Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    And that’s the way it is, January 5, 2009 —

    Fifteen more days until the good news of the peaceful transition of power once again in this Great Nation, and the dawning of a new day in these United States of America!!

    The good news of peace, and hope, and prosperity!

  391. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    bawks,

    Sorry, I’m not “miserable”. I know how to live very comfortably with high energy efficiency, solar, etc.

    But if it makes you feel better to lie to yourself, go ahead.

  392. Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    good night; good luck; and god bless —
    whatever you perceive god to be!!

    blessings ALL!

    blessings and peace for the Middle East!

    so mote it be!!

  393. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Chas
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:22 pm | Permalink
    And that’s the way it is, January 5, 2009 —

    Fifteen more days until the good news of the peaceful transition of power once again in this Great Nation, and the dawning of a new day in these United States of America!!

    The good news of peace, and hope, and prosperity!
    ———————————————

    The Good News used to be about Jesus Christ.

    Now Obama is the good news.

    (1% fringe preacher posts are frequent here.)

  394. JimJohnson
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    Goodnite everyone, and have sweet dreams of Hope.

    Each day going forward will be even more glorious then the last!

    Obama will soon build his own kingdom, right here on Earth!

    I am so inspired and filled with optimism at the hope the future now brings.

    Everynight before I go to sleep, I read this. Obama inspires me oh so much!

    “I should like to help everyone if possible; Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, black men, white, red, and yellow. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each others’ happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.

    Greed has poisoned men’s souls; has barricaded the world with hate; we live in misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Industry that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge as made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than wealth we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. Modern communications and technology have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in man; cries out for universal brotherhood; for the unity of us all.

    Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me, I say “Do not despair.” The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.

    Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty!

    In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it’s written “the kingdom of God is within man”, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create prosperity, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power.

    Let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men and women a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill their promise. They never will! Evil rulers free themselves but they enslave the people! Now let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world! To do away with national barriers! To do away with greed, with hate and intolerance! Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness.

    Citizens of the world, in the name of democracy, let us all unite!

    People can you hear me? Wherever you are, look up! The clouds are lifting! The sun is breaking through! We are coming out of the darkness into the light! We are coming into a new world; a kind new world, where men and women will rise above their hate, their greed, and brutality. Look up! The soul of mankind has been given wings and at last he is beginning to fly. He is flying into the rainbow. Into the light of hope! Into the future! The glorious future! That belongs to you, to me, and to all of us. Look up, everyone! Look up!”

  395. Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Oh, BTW, the Good News is still about Jesus Christ. Only mindless idiots would suggest otherwise…. Mindless idiots like JimJohnson, that is…

  396. Boxlock20
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    “Sorry, I’m not “miserable”. I know how to live very comfortably with high energy efficiency, solar, etc.”

    How’s that solar working right now cosmos?
    Is it as warm as my cast iron gas log stove?
    Didn’t think so.

  397. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    “I am betting if your family had any idea about how awful you act here, they’d take away your keyboard.”

    heheheh

    or maybe…

    “she” doesnt really have a family, or a husband, or a business, or well, anything.

    “She” just has words on a page…
    * * * * *
    But, KFG, she is good friends with the Priceless family, so she is probably OKAY… LMAO at that silly idea.

  398. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    Question to serious bloggers here, has Germ ever acted worse than she is now?

    It is way past time for that family intervention. Take her keyboard away before she causes you all much more embarrassment! It could have a major cost for your family janitorial business. Seriously, think about it.

    In tough economic times, I am betting that businesses think about suspending janitorial services first. Think about it…

  399. Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    Not that I can recall, Steven… OK, back to bed now… morning comes way too early!!

  400. Regular
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    That splinter in Steven Davis’s eye is getting larger and larger daily.

  401. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Funny, Reg, you quoting the Bible and all. I’d go HeHeHeHe, etc. if that was not someone elses gig…

  402. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    Well she is in two nics and dumb as a post in both of them Steven.

    I do the work that she gets money off of using others to do. Dif is, I do the work myself.

    We haven’t seen the right in meltdown in my lifetime. I plan to enjoy every minute of it.

  403. StevenEDavis
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    Night.

  404. BlueJay
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    Watching Ann Coulter crab walk away from Alan Colmes.

    WHOA even Alan Colmes can destroy Coulter.

    Attacking single mothers while her own biological clock runs out is SO telling.

  405. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:46 pm | Permalink

    More about outlander’s “discussion” post, aka Carbon DiZERO.

    Harold Ambler’s Huffington Post climate misinformation-ganza’
    http://www.desmogblog.com/harold-ambler-huffington-post-global-warming-misinformation

    Also read, ‘HuffPost scores a 100 on the Inhofe Scale<’ at Get Energy Now link at above page.

  406. Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    About time that this BS is prosecuted as it should be…. Hopefully, people will learn…

    http://www.kansas.com/news/breaking/story/652283.html

  407. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 5, 2009 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    bawks,

    Solar is working great.
    I hope you enjoy paying your gas utility bill.

  408. Political_mama
    Posted January 6, 2009 at 4:54 am | Permalink

    An unprovoked attack, attempting to interfere with witnesses, gee, Pistol, Spike and…what was the other name…oh well I’ll call him sheetforbrains….

    Kansas…as bigoted as it gets.

  409. Boxlock20
    Posted January 6, 2009 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    “Solar is working great.”—cosmos

    Sure it is, that’s why it’s going up all over in residential neighborhoods, just popping up on ever home.
    Lets see some evidence there cosmos, that shouldn’t be hard for a scientist like yourself, cough cough.

  410. outlander
    Posted January 6, 2009 at 7:04 am | Permalink

    It’s C-ZERO-2 — search the page for “C0? (letter “C”, number “0?)

    —————–

    No it’s not. Cosmos, you must be Chas’ brother.

  411. cosmos_originally
    Posted January 6, 2009 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    outlander posted January 6, 2009 at 7:04 am

    It’s C-ZERO-2 — search the page for “C0? (letter “C”, number “0?)

    —————–

    No it’s not. Cosmos, you must be Chas’ brother.
    ———————–

    Outlander, are you a computer illiterate? Or just trying to get more hits to the HuffPo link?

    The musician/boat rowing book author DOES spell CO2 incorrectly as C02 (number ZERO).

    Go to your copy/paste post.
    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-14-2/#comment-496586

    Open the HuffPo link in your browser.
    Click on your browser’s find or search feature.
    Enter the character c
    Enter the NUMBER 0
    Hit “enter” or click “start”, or similar if browser requires.
    Use the “Find Again” feature.

    You will find C-ZERO-2 6 (six) times:
    —–
    reconstructed C02 levels
    Mauna Loa C02 measurements
    lowest C02 increase
    highest C02 increase
    by C02 but
    graph, C02’s ability
    ——