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The creator of the universe works in mysterious ways. But he uses a base ten counting system and likes round numbers.
– Scott Adams
Noted this yesterday but will do it again.
Because it’s sweet irony.
ANOTHER of Bloombergs Pantschitting Mayors Against Scary Guns was hit with corruption charges.
That makes 8 of these power freaks who’ve been busted on criminal or corruption charges in the past year or two. What’s with these Mayors? Is it just that they are pretty much all Democrats?
http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-perez0128.artjan28,0,5637293.story
James Hansen’s Former NASA Supervisor Declares Himself a Skeptic
Says Hansen `Embarrassed NASA’ & `Was Never Muzzled’
NASA warming scientist James Hansen, one of former Vice-President Al Gore’s closest allies in the promotion of man-made global warming fears, is being publicly rebuked by his former supervisor at NASA. Retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist, Dr. John S. Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen, NASA’s vocal man-made global warming fear soothsayer, has now publicly declared himself a skeptic and declared that Hansen “embarrassed NASA” with his alarming climate claims and said Hansen was “was never muzzled.” Theon joins the rapidly growing ranks of international scientists abandoning the promotion of man-made global warming fears.
“I appreciate the opportunity to add my name to those who disagree that global warming is man made,” Theon wrote to the Minority Office at the Environment and Public Works Committee on January 15, 2009. “I was, in effect, Hansen’s supervisor because I had to justify his funding, allocate his resources, and evaluate his results,” Theon, the former Chief of the Climate Processes Research Program at NASA Headquarters and former Chief of the Atmospheric Dynamics & Radiation Branch explained.
“Hansen was never muzzled even though he violated NASA’s official agency position on climate forecasting (i.e., we did not know enough to forecast climate change or mankind’s effect on it). Hansen thus embarrassed NASA by coming out with his claims of global warming in 1988 in his testimony before Congress,” Theon wrote.
Theon declared “climate models are useless.” “My own belief concerning anthropogenic climate change is that the models do not realistically simulate the climate system because there are many very important sub-grid scale processes that the models either replicate poorly or completely omit,” Theon explained. “Furthermore, some scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results. In doing so, they neither explain what they have modified in the observations, nor explain how they did it. They have resisted making their work transparent so that it can be replicated independently by other scientists. This is clearly contrary to how science should be done. Thus there is no rational justification for using climate model forecasts to determine public policy,” he added.
“As Chief of several of NASA Headquarters’ programs (1982-94), an SES position, I was responsible for all weather and climate research in the entire agency, including the research work by James Hansen, Roy Spencer, Joanne Simpson, and several hundred other scientists at NASA field centers, in academia, and in the private sector who worked on climate research,” Theon wrote of his career. “This required a thorough understanding of the state of the science. I have kept up with climate science since retiring by reading books and journal articles,” Theon added.
More here
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=1a5e6e32-802a-23ad-40ed-ecd53cd3d320
Boxlock20
Posted January 27, 2009 at 10:29 pm | Permalink
Who care’s what “seems” to you Steven…certainly not I. You, and what seems to you, or what you think, are entirely irrelevant to me.
Don’t bother addressing me as I simply hold you in contempt anyway.
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Are these the words of a successful, fulfilled, Christian, happily married man with a great wife and kids?
It “seems” to me that these are the words of a depraved, unhappy, basement living, velveeta cheese eating troll.
No wonder Palin seems like a queen /goddess to such lowlifes.
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mxyzptlk
Posted January 28, 2009 at 6:19 am | Permalink
The creator of the universe works in mysterious ways. But he uses a base ten counting system and likes round numbers.
- Scott Adams
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Did Mr. Adams take what, five minutes to study the Bible before he drew this erroneous conclusion?
“I didn’t create the Universe, I merely explain it.”
My favorite line from a Woody Allen movie.
Where facts are few, experts are many.
– Donald R. Gannon
OK, I get it Reg — The Creator likes a base 5 counting system, and uses square numbers… LOL
Of coursse, the FSM prefers the meatball counting system, using his infinite noodly appendages…. LOL
Violence in Mexico a direct result of U.S. gun laws and U.S. drug policy.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28880483/
Central America is still plagued by guns supplied to the contras during the Reagan era.
Ok, trivia time, speaking of counting systems-
Measuring by gross and by dozen go back thousands of years. Why were they such a common measurement? Why not something in multiples of ten?
We used to have six fingers on each hand.
Then we evolved to make counting simpler, and the metric system possible.
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Chas
Posted January 28, 2009 at 7:18 am | Permalink
Of coursse, the FSM prefers the meatball counting system, using his infinite noodly appendages…. LOL
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Not at all Chas…
If you pick up a book on mathematics and the Bible, you may be surprised at the sophistication.
Of course, there are numerology people that believe that Biblical phrases are actually mathematical codes and have demonstrated how they are designed that are extremely sophisticated.
(if you believe in that sort of thing)
Since Al Gore is in Washington during extreme cold. This article pops up on saving the world from global warming. In my opinion this is all BS and climate change can not be controlled by Man. It is political and the greenies want control of our lives and money. This problem of emission control by the greenies is growing and is an emotional loser. Forget it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28874983/
How do solar panels on your roof providing you with free electricity put greenies in charge of your life and money, George? How does insulating your house, or caulking your windows? It seems to me such measures put you in charge.
A cruise ship got stuck (icebound) in mouth of the St. Lawrence this week and a Canadian Coast Guard ice breaker was sent to free her. Ice has never been that thick nor a problem in that area, seemingly.
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sursum
Posted January 28, 2009 at 8:02 am | Permalink
A cruise ship got stuck (icebound) in mouth of the St. Lawrence this week and a Canadian Coast Guard ice breaker was sent to free her. Ice has never been that thick nor a problem in that area, seemingly.
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Or seemingly, the stupidity of cruise boat Captains that would guide their ship in a frozen river.
Regular: The route is a well travelled cruise lane, the ice just froze around them…never happened before. Gotta wonder about global warming as being as absolute and dreadful as we hear, was the point of my post.
“Of coursse, the FSM prefers the meatball counting system, using his infinite noodly appendages…. LOL”
RAMEN!!!!!
Basement cat agrees….
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sursum
Posted January 28, 2009 at 8:12 am | Permalink
Regular: The route is a well travelled cruise lane, the ice just froze around them…never happened before. Gotta wonder about global warming as being as absolute and dreadful as we hear, was the point of my post.
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Perhaps.
I’ve heard of ships being stuck in ice all the time in the Great Lakes Region.
Personally, I wouldn’t draw any conclusions one way or the other regarding climate. Depends on the hull configuration of the ship, how deep it sets in water; if the ship was closer to the shore or in the middle of the river; the ship had no ‘ice breaking’ capability; the ship was allow to anchor in a confluence where ice accumulates – and many other factors.
Interesting how isolated weather events “prove” to CONs there’s “no such thing as global warming, but a guy who shoots his wife and family is “an isolated” tragedy.
Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh
http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=42616
didnt Democrats hope Bush failed (around every corner) they were INVESTED in defeat as far as the Iraq war was concerned ??
Freakn Donkeys . . . . they know how to dish-it-out .. but MAN !!!! .. they sure can’t take it
Thanks for the link dadman.
you are very welcome .. have a great day
bigotbawks. Proudly lowering the standards for christian dominionists everywhere….
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances . . . . . . DEAL WITH IT
Do you have anything positive to say you old hate filled battle ax?
Post after post of attacks and hate…Jeebus!!
Demand the State Legislatures take a huge pay cut. They just keep giving themselves raises and then choke off our Constitution and Citizen Rights. Education, services, safety etc:.. They want a lessen the number of state employee’s and then arm District Attorneys. D.A.’s don’t enforce Laws with guns, Cops do. Their is alot of the Legislature and the Governor that are idiots. They are Motivated to steal our tax reserve and trash our rights. They don’t care about us. They just want our futures, at any and all levels. Demand accountability, Impeach the thief, remove Sebelius and demand Legislative reduction. Herbert West 3rd, {D}, Exploratory Campaign Candidate for a 2010 Kansas Governor Bid.
mxyzptlk, hee hee heeeeeee.
He totally doesnt get why you are thanking him.
HAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAH.
I know a lot about raising, butchering and cooking some mighty fine goat. Ummmmmm.
But I’ll be damned if I’ll tell you.
Go ask one of your wingnut buddies.
cabrito…
Oops, hit send too soon.
Maybe no one responded to your plea yesterday because I’m not the only one who has you on ignore?
Linda is nice and kind to everyone.
Please go back to ignoring me and I will do the same with you.
Well, I take that as a no.
“Freakn Donkeys” are in charge.
Deal with it.
Ahhhhhh, the smell of christian charity in the morning.
Please go back to ignoring me and I will do the same with you.
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you betcha!
The perfect illustration for con posts today.
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1180532906036770570VpoTCj
how about .. brood of vipers
Read this first. Don explains why the SEC investigation of Madoof will be nothing more than a cover up for their own incompetence.
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The Securities and Exchange Commission, the federal agency that is supposed to protect investors from Wall Street predators, says it is going to investigate how it missed the Bernie Madoff scam. San Diego’s Gary Aguirre, speaking from personal experience, knows that’s impossible. Any securities agency probe will be a cover-up.
New York’s Madoff ran a $50 billion Ponzi scheme. The securities commission admits that allegations about Madoff’s scheme had been repeatedly brought to the agency’s attention since 1999. “I am gravely concerned by the apparent multiple failures over at least a decade to thoroughly investigate these allegations,” proclaimed the agency’s Bush-era chairman, Christopher Cox, last month, announcing the supposed self-probe.
Balderdash. The only thing Cox is “gravely concerned” about is that the American public might finally understand the agency’s actual mission. For as Aguirre, a former attorney for the agency, points out, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) does not exist to protect investors from Wall Street predators. It exists to protect powerful Wall Street predators from investors.
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2009/jan/21/city-light-1/
“ksfarmgrrl” notes –
“mxyzptlk, hee hee heeeeeee.
He totally doesnt get why you are thanking him.”
Y’know what I thought, “ksfarmgrrl?”
WHOOOOSH!</b
And then Foghorn Leghorn tells Henry Hawk:
Ya’ll are too short, ah say, short, son! Built too close ta the ground! Ever’thang Ah say, son, goes over y’r head!”
Such events are among the most amusing on WE Blog.
or maybe .. white washed tombs .. full of dead mens bones ?? .. yeah .. I like that one better
Aint it the truth, Walker. That’s what bushco turned all the regulatory agencies into.
And as for you dm, “dance, poodle, dance!”
Then read this, the excuse SEC is giving (Or at least one of them)
Jan. 27 (Bloomberg) — The Securities and Exchange Commission’s top investigator, facing congressional ire for failing to detect Bernard Madoff’s alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme, said the agency lacks resources to pursue all leads.
“The amount of resources available to the SEC has not kept pace with the rapid expansion in the securities market over the past few years,” SEC Enforcement Director Linda Thomsen said today in written testimony for a Senate Banking Committee hearing. There has been an “explosion” in new and complex financial instruments, “some of which were expressly designed to avoid SEC regulation and oversight.”
U.S. lawmakers are grilling securities watchdogs for the first time since Madoff’s Dec. 11 arrest. The proceeding may shed light on the SEC’s fate, as Congress debates whether investigators are overtaxed or ineffectual. After the arrest, then-Chairman Christopher Cox faulted the staff for failing to act for at least a decade on “credible and specific allegations” about Madoff.
“We’re a far cry from the SEC that was established by Joe Kennedy and Franklin Roosevelt in the 1930s,” said Banking Committee member Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat. The SEC now seems “stagnant and behind the times” and should have “professionals in place who understand how markets work.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aDrs7Uifjlsg&refer=home
Heheheh Monkeyhawk. I love Foghorn leghorn….
They have NO idea how funny they really are!
Monkeyhawk, does Jeremy Shops know about this?
“Herbert West 3rd, {D}, Exploratory Campaign Candidate for a 2010 Kansas Governor Bid.”
He needs to step up his tireless efforts! I detect a threat.
A threat of LAUGHING my self breathless!
Yesterday Cap’n provided us with a list of Rush Limbaugh advertisers and either their email address or website. I sent a mass email (using bbc) to all those email addys he provided. I’ve received four responses so far. Two were automated, ‘we got your email, we’ll be back to you.’ Two were personal emails from actual people. I thought you would enjoy sharing these.
The first one gives me no indication which company it comes from, and says:
“Not sure where you get your info but we stopped airing any advertising in his show 5+ years ago.
–Ted Ward, Vice President Marketing”
This is the second one:
Good day:
“In 2004 when Rush Limbaugh’s program also carried remarks that were outrageous and inappropriate, we ceased all advertising on his show. We don’t advertise there to this day.
We appreciate hearing from you on this matter.
GEICO Corporate Communications”
Here’s the list Cap’n provided. Never let it be said that WE THE PEOPLE can’t make a difference! Please remember that according to an email I received from a Ted Ward, Vice President Marketing FOR SOMEBODY, they aren’t any longer an advertiser. Oh well, maybe if he gets enough emails he will be willing to identify himself so they’ll stop!
SPONSOR EMAIL ADDRESSES:
otherinfo@overstock.com
investor.relations@autozone.com
ctasher@geico.com
tward@geico.com
cfernandez@geico.com
jminshall@geico.com
contactmarketing@geico.com
investorrelations@selectcomfort.com
advertising@hotwire.com
info@lifequotes.com.au
Feedback@RegionalHelpWanted.com
OTHERS
Some sponsors can only be reached through their websites. Here are the links:
lumberliquidators.com/custserv/contactus.jsp
oreck.com/customer-service/contact-oreck.cfm …
blue-emu.com/contact.html
eharmony.com/advertising/contact
And suddenly, SEC and FINRA are looking at oversight and regs to ensure thieves like Madoff can’t strike again. Like they couldn’t have stopped it in the first place. And I’m sure Madoff’s niece, Shana Madoff, who served on FINRA’s board, knew nothing about it:-)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8329947
Apparently a gecko is smarter than most Repubs.
Go Palin go!
Point is, the SEC and FINRA need serious makeovers to force them into policing the money markets and root out the sharks, but, as Don Bauder says, the SEC isn’t there to protect investors from sharks, it’s there to protect sharks from investors.
“Linda is nice and kind to everyone.”
Farmgrrl,
I don’t deserve any credit! There are some ‘nics’ I refuse to read. I don’t have any idea what some bloggers here post. Makes life easy and full of joy for me. ;-)
Lina
So what did Limbaugh say this time to get the Capn’s panties in a knot?
“I don’t deserve any credit!”
Did I mention that in addition to being nice and kind, she’s also humble?
hee hee hee heeeeeeee.
:)
I see how to get your “goat”! You can take the attacks, it’s the PRAISE that makes you uncomfortable.
Oh hell, I shouldnt have posted that. Now grmie will be calling you St. Linda…
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Heckler
Posted January 28, 2009 at 8:58 am | Permalink
Lina
So what did Limbaugh say this time to get the Capn’s panties in a knot?
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Apparently Limbaugh sends a ‘thrill up the Crapn’s leg’ or he wouldn’t care what he says.
I have no clue what duh Libs are crying about now.
Anyone else know the nature of the latest whine fest?
“lindainks55″ –
I liked how eHarmony.com has targeted the Limbaugh-tomized Masses. They sure know how to target-market sad lonely white guys! Ha!
Back when I listened to Limbaugh more, the biggest sponsor was “Hooked on Phonics” (shouldn’t hat be “Hukt on Fonix?” I’m just sayin’…)
The pitch was “Learn how to READ!” Again, they knew Limbaugh’s audience; illiterate people! Ha, again!
Heckler,
The email I sent was to the Rush Limbaugh advertisers was to ask them if they as a company also supported President Obama’s failure.
Well I messed that up pretty badly. I typed slower when I did the email and checked before hitting the send.
Heheheh. Ya know, eHarmony used to not accept ads from those seeking same sex relationships.
Until they lost a lawsuit over it!
nitwits
So ya know, they target sad, lonely, STRAIGHT white guys. The women? not so much….
“(shouldn’t hat be “Hukt on Fonix?”
Sounds like that belongs on Icanhazcheezburger.
“Oh hell, I shouldnt have posted that. Now grmie will be calling you St. Linda…”
It’s fine and dandy! I won’t know it! ;-)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Good one Linda. You owe me a new keyboard. I spit coffee all over this one!
linda
“also supported President Obama’s failure.”
Supported Obama’s failure at what?
hee hee hee heeeeee.
WHOOSH!
Good for you Linda, Capn and whomever decides to participate in that.
I don’t agree with you politically but it’s a true meaningful means of protest vs. mudslinging etc.
Ah, I see now – Libs are whining and starting yet another ‘free speech for me, but not for thee’ campaign.
Stimulus package expected to pass.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_economy
If the repukes vote against it, after obama wet himself trying to give them what they wanted, I think the democrats should come back and pass another bill with the support for contraception.
A little lesson in bipartisanship for them.
Don’t have enough to worry about? – try this!!!
Scientists Not So Sure ‘Doomsday Machine’ Won’t Destroy World Wednesday, January 28, 2009
Still worried that the Large Hadron Collider will create a black hole that will destroy the Earth when it’s finally switched on this summer?
Um, well, you may have a point.
Three physicists have reexamined the math surrounding the creation of microscopic black holes in the Switzerland-based LHC, the world’s largest particle collider, and determined that they won’t simply evaporate in a millisecond as had previously been predicted.
Rather, Roberto Casadio of the University of Bologna in Italy and Sergio Fabi and Benjamin Harms of the University of Alabama say mini black holes could exist for much longer — perhaps even more than a second, a relative eternity in particle colliders, where most objects decay much faster.
Under such long-lived conditions, it becomes a race between how fast a black hole can decay — and how fast it can gobble up matter to grow bigger and prevent itself from decaying.
Casadio, Fabi and Harms think the black hole would lose out, and pass through the Earth or out of the atmosphere before it got to be a problem.
“We conclude that … the growth of black holes to catastrophic size does not seem possible. Nonetheless, it remains true that the expected decay times are much longer (and possibly >> 1 second) than is typically predicted by other models,” the three state in a brief paper posted at the scientific discussion Web site ArXiv.org.
FoxNews.com can think of a few other things that didn’t seem possible once — the theory of continental drift, the fact that rocks fall from the sky, the notion that the Earth revolves around the sun, the idea that scientists could be horribly wrong.
We’re also wondering how often the LHC might create individual black holes, since longer-lived ones have a greater chance of merging with each other, and, um, well, see ya.
If the worst comes to pass, and there’s now a slightly greater chance that it might, at least it might explain why we’ve never heard from extraterrestrial civilizations: Maybe they built Large Hadron Colliders of their own.
“It exists to protect powerful Wall Street predators from investors.”
Is there a plan of action? What does anyone suggest WE THE PEOPLE could do? Is studying, researching, becoming better informed the place to start? That way when we contact our idiot representatives it will be easier to show we’re better informed then they who are supposed to be well informed enough to govern?
Heckler, we already cussed and discussed Rush’s statements. I can’t recall the thread header title, but there’s a picture of Rush so you won’t miss it if you go looking.
linda
Could it be that you wish not to answer my question because you know that by answering the question in the context it was asked you would have to expose the fact that your argument is specious?
There will be no black hole at the collider. The collisions the collider will create are the same collisions happening everyday in our atmosphere.
I suppose if that’s want you want to go with. Your opinion is as good and as useless as mine.
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JMWalker
Posted January 28, 2009 at 9:20 am | Permalink
There will be no black hole at the collider. The collisions the collider will create are the same collisions happening everyday in our atmosphere.
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If that’s true, then why did they need to spend billions of dollars to build it? :)
The Hadron Collider was never thought to be a doomsday machine by scientists. Since particles collide on a constant basis on this planet, and nothing negative has resulted, there isn’t expected to be any difference in a controlled setting. But I suppose the media is always will to give press time to a few fringe nuts.
JMWalker
Posted January 28, 2009 at 9:20 am | Permalink
There will be no black hole at the collider.
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Dammit!!
From Balloon Juice –
Obama says tax relief for some working families must come from payroll so even families who don’t pay income taxes get relief and they will spend it.
He said “feel free to whack me over the head because I probably will not compromise on that part.
Obama said that there will be time to beat him up and a time for politics. He said I understand that and I will watch you on fox news and feel bad about myself.
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Zing!
WHOOOSH!
I like this guy’s style.
It was a Monday, 1/26, thread titled, “Is it unpatriotic to hope that Obama fails?” It’s still on the front page so easy to find if you’re interested.
Heckler, I posted what my opinion is on that thread and it hasn’t changed so I don’t see why I should post it again. I’m don’t think there always has to be a ‘loser.’ Opinions are formed based on our perspectives, our research, our philosophies, and I respect that every adult person holds their own opinions for their own reasons. I’m not going to attempt to change another’s opinion, I won’t reword my own opinions overandover because I do a pretty good job of expressing myself the first time.
“Large Hadron Colliders ”
With just a little imagination, this could become a great title for a porn movie.
Reminds me of a local farmer, Monty Harden.
linda
Yeah, thought so.
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Regular
Posted January 28, 2009 at 9:22 am | Permalink
If that’s true, then why did they need to spend billions of dollars to build it? :)
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Are you telling me you can’t figure it out for yourself?
Alright Heckler, timeout. One minute for each year of your age. And no TV.
Well, let’s see, let the looney lefty libs start an email campaign to silence Rush. Then, if it’s sucessful, in eight years when his $400,000,000.00 contract is up they’ll probably cut back on his $50,000,000.00 signing bonus for his next eight year contract.
nimrods
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JMWalker
Posted January 28, 2009 at 9:34 am | Permalink
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Regular
Posted January 28, 2009 at 9:22 am | Permalink
If that’s true, then why did they need to spend billions of dollars to build it? :)
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Are you telling me you can’t figure it out for yourself?
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Particle physics is not my strong suit.
Evidently, you appear to be comfortable with subject matter.
Please do explain it to everyone.
You know what Hank I’d rather see people who disagree take on this type of campaign than the Government legislating it thru the “Fairness” doctrine.
The advertisers can decide if it’s a benefit to continue to fund the program or not.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted January 28, 2009 at 9:12 am | Permalink
Stimulus package expected to pass.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_economy
If the repukes vote against it, after obama wet himself trying to give them what they wanted, I think the democrats should come back and pass another bill with the support for contraception.
A little lesson in bipartisanship for them.
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I’m thinking a post-birth abortion law, with, say, an age limit of eighteen?
Absolutely amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWiCwtd4qqM
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Regular
Posted January 28, 2009 at 9:37 am | Permalink
Particle physics is not my strong suit.
Evidently, you appear to be comfortable with subject matter.
Please do explain it to everyone.
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Try capturing the moment of collision at 30 miles up so particles, whose life expectancy is listed in nano-seconds, can be read. What the physicists are attempting to find are the “God” particle as well as the gravitron (and if it exists).
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/god-particle/achenbach-text Written so even the uninitiated can understand it.
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beber
Posted January 28, 2009 at 7:54 am | Permalink
How do solar panels on your roof providing you with free electricity put greenies in charge of your life and money, George? How does insulating your house, or caulking your windows? It seems to me such measures put you in charge.
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beber and MonkeyHawk are typical examples of AGW faith. They haven’t a clue as to the AGW agenda or the affects of the Draconian laws that are being pushed by the Socialists. I guess that just shows how extreme the two are.
beber, “solar panels on your roof” don’t generate electricity. Double and tripling gasoline taxes along with carbon taxes on all kinds of businesses are going to increase costs for many products and services. Do you like eating beef? There are proposals for additional taxes on cows.
Prohibiting charcoal bbqs, most wood burning stoves and fireplaces, gas powered lawnmowers ect are going to effect everybodies lives.
“Regular” in a rare moment of humility –
“Particle physics is not my strong suit.”
Thanks, Sol. No one can see that one often enough! Five little girls. ‘the children shall lead’
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mxyzptlk
Posted January 28, 2009 at 6:26 am | Permalink
Boxlock20
Posted January 27, 2009 at 10:29 pm | Permalink
Who care’s what “seems” to you Steven…certainly not I. You, and what seems to you, or what you think, are entirely irrelevant to me.
Don’t bother addressing me as I simply hold you in contempt anyway.
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Are these the words of a successful, fulfilled, Christian, happily married man with a great wife and kids?
It “seems” to me that these are the words of a depraved, unhappy, basement living, velveeta cheese eating troll.
No wonder Palin seems like a queen /goddess to such lowlifes.
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I quit reading and responding to Boxie some ago. I appreciate the reminder that this was a good decision. Some people are so hate-filled and stupid, ya know? I tend to bring out the best in people like that – see the above as evidence. Off to important work.
some “time” ago
““solar panels on your roof” don’t generate electricity.”
Simply amazing.
“Prohibiting charcoal bbqs, most wood burning stoves and fireplaces, gas powered lawnmowers ect are going to effect everybodies lives.”
You know you can get a tax credit for purchasing a new wood burning stove. All thanks to those socialist Democrats. But I suppose you’ll argue that wood burning doesn’t produce heat, just like solar panels to produce electricity.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted January 28, 2009 at 8:24 am | Permalink
Interesting how isolated weather events “prove” to CONs there’s “no such thing as global warming, but a guy who shoots his wife and family is “an isolated” tragedy.
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Another straw man argument for global warming a.k.a. climate change. Nobody makes that claim MH. The argument is the CAUSE and if MAN can change it. Didn’t you see the post last week about the number of record low temps all around the world?
You seem to be isolated from realty.
You’re exactly right, Mr Kia. Unfortunately the free market doesn’t really work for liberals. The American puplic is much too stupid to be allowed to listen to who ever they want to!
I’d call KNSS and complain. I’m sure they’d be shocked (shocked I tell you!) if they found out their number one revenue source was a conservative!
puplic=public
Thanks, Sol. No one can see that one often enough!
Now I feel dumb. Today was my first time seeing it.
I like to read these words I received in an email this morning, so I’ll repeat them here:
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“Good day:
In 2004 when Rush Limbaugh’s program also carried remarks that were outrageous and inappropriate, we ceased all advertising on his show. We don’t advertise there to this day.
We appreciate hearing from you on this matter.
GEICO Corporate Communications”
““solar panels on your roof” don’t generate electricity.”
Oops my bad, I was thinking about passive solar.
Sol, now that you’ve seen it, I’ll bet you listen many times more! As soon as you swallow that lump…
Those little girls… Wow so much talent.
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 28, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink
Simply amazing.
“Prohibiting charcoal bbqs, most wood burning stoves and fireplaces, gas powered lawnmowers ect are going to effect everybodies lives.”
You know you can get a tax credit for purchasing a new wood burning stove. All thanks to those socialist Democrats. But I suppose you’ll argue that wood burning doesn’t produce heat, just like solar panels to produce electricity.
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I said MOST wood burning stoves and fire places not the newer ones.
I suppose you think all the news taxes for gasoline, energy, and those passed along to consumers and in are going to offset the one time tax credit.
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HLP
Posted January 28, 2009 at 9:57 am | Permalink
You’re exactly right, Mr Kia. Unfortunately the free market doesn’t really work for liberals. The American puplic is much too stupid to be allowed to listen to who ever they want to!
I’d call KNSS and complain. I’m sure they’d be shocked (shocked I tell you!) if they found out their number one revenue source was a conservative!
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So, what you’re saying is a campaign to the advertisers on the limburger show is, what, bad, and aginst “free market principles”? Wouldn’t that put voting in the same catagory? Choosing Fritos over Ruffles? Purchase then duck eggs? No? Gee, someones out of work here. It’s all relative, Hank.
Sol, I can’t remember the last time I choked hearing that great song. Truly amazing. Thanks.
“They haven’t a clue as to the AGW agenda or the affects of the Draconian laws that are being pushed by the Socialists. I guess that just shows how extreme the two are.”
Or maybe… they just arent as paranoid and delusional as you?
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:12 am | Permalink
“They haven’t a clue as to the AGW agenda or the affects of the Draconian laws that are being pushed by the Socialists. I guess that just shows how extreme the two are.”
Or maybe… they just arent as paranoid and delusional as you?
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Well grrl, I’ve paid the higher prices of petrol in Europe because of higher taxes.
Let me tell you, it is not at all pleasant when the price of petrol is 2x to 3X higher than it here in the states because of higher taxes.
A Boss Who Tells it Like it Is …
To All My Valued Employees,
There have been some rumblings around the office about
the future of this company, and more specifically, your job. As you
know, the economy has changed for the worse and presents many
challenges. However, the good news is this: The economy doesn’t pose a
threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is the
changing political landscape in this country.
However, let me tell you some little tidbits of fact
which might help you decide what is in your best interests.
First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts
employers against employees, you have to understand that for every
business owner there is a back story. This back story is often
neglected and overshadowed by what you see and hear. Sure, you see me
park my Mercedes outside. You’ve seen my big home at last years
Christmas party. I’m sure; all these flashy icons of luxury conjure up
some idealized thoughts about my life.
However, what you don’t see is the back story.
I started this company 28 years ago. At that time, I
lived in a 300 square foot studio apartment for 3 years. My entire
living apartment was converted into an office so I could put forth
100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would
eventually employ you.
My diet consisted of Ramen Pride noodles because every
dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove a rusty Toyota
Corolla with a defective transmission. I didn’t have time to date.
Often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out
drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business – hard
work, discipline, and sacrifice.
Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a
week and made a modest $50K a year and spent every dime they earned.
They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy
designer clothes. Instead of hitting the Nordstrom’s for the latest
hot fashion item, I was trolling through the discount store extracting
any clothing item that didn’t look like it was birthed in the 70’s. My
friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I,
however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into a business
with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford
these luxuries my friends supposedly had.
So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am,
mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm, I don’t. There
is no “off” button for me When you leave the office, you are done and
you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the
freedom. I eat, and breathe this company every minute of the day.
There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every
day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old
special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that
garden – the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations … you never
realize the back story and the sacrifices I’ve made.
Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that
made all the right decisions and saved his money, have to bail-out all
the people who didn’t. The people that overspent their paychecks
suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and
sacrificed a decade of my life for.
Yes, business ownership has is benefits but the price
I’ve paid is steep and not without wounds.
Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and
employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal
benefit and let me tell you why:
I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I
don’t pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes.
Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes.
Unemployment taxes. Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage
all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing
him. Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that
goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check
to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes. You know what my
“stimulus” check was? Zero. Nada. Zilch.
The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the
economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and
serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business? Or,
the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child
waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the
latter is the economic stimulus of this country.
The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your
paycheck you’d quit and you wouldn’t work here. I mean, why should
you? That’s nuts. Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard
work? Well, I agree which is why your job is in jeopardy.
Here is what many of you don’t understand … to
stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Had
suddenly government mandated to me that I didn’t need to pay taxes,
guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into the Washington
black-hole, I would have spent it, hired more employees, and generated
substantial economic growth. My employees would have enjoyed the
wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries.
But you can forget it now.
When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you
don’t defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him
back to life, do you? Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is
at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must
stimulate it, not kill it. Suddenly, the power brokers in Washington
believe the poor of America are the essential drivers of the American
economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is
the type of change you can keep.
So where am I going with all this?
It’s quite simple.
If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my
reaction will be swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers.
You can then plead with the government to pay for your mortgage, your
SUV, and your child’s future. Frankly, it isn’t my problem any more.
Then, I will close this company down, move to another
country, and retire. You see, I’m done. I’m done with a country that
penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation
to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, will be my
citizenship
So, if you lose your job, it won’t be at the hands of
the economy; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that
swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution, and will
have changed its landscape forever. If that happens, you can find me
sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about …
Signed,
Your boss
“I said MOST wood burning stoves and fire places not the newer ones.”
Tax credits ($300) are for stoves with 75% efficiency or better. If you have an inefficient stove you’re just wasting time and money. Might as well upgrade this year if you need to in order to save money in the long run.
The one who gets it…
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/024957.html
Great post Sol!
Tell it like it is – babee!
Oh yeah…
Good post Sol. My “stimuls” check was $64 which I used to help pay my taxes.
You try the chicken milano?
Hank posted January 28, 2009 at 6:23 am
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Dear Hank,
Thank you for posting another very silly AGW denial.
‘John S. Theon: New Elderly Denier On The Block
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2009/01/john-s-theon-new-elderly-denier-on.html
‘PUNS for ‘EDUCATED MINDS’
1. The roundest knight at King Arthur’s round table was Sir Cumference. He acquired his size from too much pi.
2. I thought I saw an eye doctor on an Alaskan island, but it turned out to be an optical Aleutian.
3. She was only a whisky maker, but he loved her still.
4. A rubber band pistol was confiscated from algebra class because it was a weapon of math disruption.
5. The butcher backed into the meat grinder and got a little behind in his work.
6. No matter how much you push the envelope, it’ll still be stationery.
7. A dog gave birth to puppies near the road and was cited for littering.
8. A grenade thrown into a kitchen in France would result in ‘Linoleum Blownapart.’
9. Two silk worms had a race. They ended up in a tie.
10. Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
11. A hole has been found in the nudist camp wall. The police are looking into it.
12. Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
13. Two hats were hanging on a hat rack in the hallway. One hat said to the other, ‘You stay here, I’ll go on a head.’
14. I wondered why the baseball kept getting bigger. Then, it hit me!
15. A sign on the lawn at a drug rehab center said, ‘Keep off the Grass.’
16. A small boy swallowed some coins and was taken to a hospital. When his grandmother telephoned to ask how he was, a nurse said, ‘No change yet.’
17. A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.
18. It’s not that the man did not know how to juggle, he just didn’t have the balls to do it.
19. The short fortune-teller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large.
20. The man who survived mustard gas and pepper spray is now a seasoned veteran.
21. A backward poet writes inverse.
22. In democracy, it’s your vote that counts. In feudalism, it’s your count that votes.
23. When cannibals ate a missionary, they got a taste of religion.
24. Don’t join dangerous cults: Practice safe sects
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SolDevVB
Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink
You try the chicken milano?
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I will tonight Sol, my fiance had already started a pot roast in the crock pot yesterday.
About that cruise ship stuck in the ice. Yes, the Great Lakes freeze and the St. Lawrence Seaway closes for the winter, but that is fresh water. The rarity of the report is that it was stuck in salt water, requiring much more extremes of cold to freeze over. I think there is something happening to the temperatures around the globe but I now wonder if there is too much rush to pin it one one thing. Accusing me of thinking, questioning or being a CON is a bit much.
Fundy-CON Ignored Biblical Passage d’ Jour:
1 Chronicles 22
8 But this word of the LORD came to me [David]: ‘You have shed much blood and have fought many wars. You are not to build a house for my Name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in my sight.’
Do tell when you try it. Remember the Asiago just before plating…
Cosmos,
Bigcity Lib blog? Now there is a source you can depend on. Has the blog been peer reviewed?
We know Hansen’s number fudging code hasn’t.
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sursum
Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink
About that cruise ship stuck in the ice. Yes, the Great Lakes freeze and the St. Lawrence Seaway closes for the winter, but that is fresh water. The rarity of the report is that it was stuck in salt water, requiring much more extremes of cold to freeze over. I think there is something happening to the temperatures around the globe but I now wonder if there is too much rush to pin it one one thing. Accusing me of thinking, questioning or being a CON is a bit much.
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Who accused you of being a con?
Can you wash it off? :)
CapnAmerica,
Amazing, I believe I just studied that very verse a little while ago.
You are 0 for 2.
Unlike you, I study and read the entire Bible, I don’t just believe what makes me feel good.
Former Vice President is urging Congress not to be sidetracked by the current financial crisis and to take ‘decisive action’ this year to reduce greenhouse gases.
“Gore’s appearance is another sign that the Democratic-controlled Congress plans to act quickly on climate change.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/28/snowstormhits-dc-gore-turn-heat-senate/
They need to hurry it up. The longer they wait in allowing AGW to continue, the more people have to die in ice storms and endure record low temperatures.
Snow Storm Kills at Least 19, Leaves Thousands in the Dark
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,484152,00.html
Bundle up people, if Congress doesn’t act now, its only going to get worse. More snow, more ice and more record low temperatures in the future. Save lives, stop Global Warming from Freezing our Planet!!!!
SolDevVB posted January 28, 2009 at 10:41 am
Bigcity Lib blog? Now there is a source you can depend on.
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SolDevVB, then post all the errors you found here.
‘John S. Theon: New Elderly Denier On The Block‘
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2009/01/john-s-theon-new-elderly-denier-on.html
BTW: Hank’s “650″ source, Marc Morano, has made multiple errors.
RFL,
What percent of “global” is the area of the U.S.?
Heckler–
The custom of counting by dozens–twelve hours in the morning, twelve in the evening etc.–no doubt originated from the (roughly) twelve lunar cycles in the solar year.
A number of ancient cultures used counting by twelves, esp. for time, as we still do.
SolDevVB, then post all the errors you found here.
bigcitylib.blogspot.
No need to go any further.
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CapnAmerica
Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink
Fundy-CON Ignored Biblical Passage d’ Jour:
1 Chronicles 22
8 But this word of the LORD came to me [David]: ‘You have shed much blood and have fought many wars. You are not to build a house for my Name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in my sight.’
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David gave instructions and the materials to his son Solomon to build the temple.
How you misinterpret Bible passages is of greater harm and more of a mystery to people who actually use their brains.
Nathan–
And why would God feel that David’s “just doing his job” during war would make him impure and unfit for holiness?
Did you talk about that?
• cosmos_originally
Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:33 am | Permalink
Hank posted January 28, 2009 at 6:23 am
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Dear Hank,
Thank you for posting another very silly AGW denial.
‘John S. Theon: New Elderly Denier On The Block
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2009/01/john-s-theon-new-elderly-denier-on.html
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Lmao
From the bigcitylib blog:
“He’s a geezer, and therefore fits the standard profile of a climate change denier.”
How many times have we heard cosMo say “your add hominem and personal attacks prove you nothing about scientific methodology” (paraphrase).
You are a reality denier.
Weak is a gross understatement.
SolDevVB posted January 28, 2009 at 10:55 am
“SolDevVB, then post all the errors you found here.”
bigcitylib.blogspot.
No need to go any further.
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You did not find any errors at,
‘John S. Theon: New Elderly Denier On The Block‘
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2009/01/john-s-theon-new-elderly-denier-on.html
Okay. . .thank you SolDevVB!
Regular accuses me of “misinterpreting” Bible verses.
That’s odd, since I didn’t interprete it to begin with . . . I just quoted it.
praise be cosmos.
How much has the earth heated over the last 8 years cosmos?
praise be
donndublin,
How old is John Theon? Is he retired?
And most importantly — does he have any “scientific methodology” to support his (changed) opinion.
CapnAmerica,
I believe the verse was talking about David building the temple, not him personally being impure and unfit for holiness.
I must have missed the verse saying that.
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CapnAmerica
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:00 am | Permalink
Regular accuses me of “misinterpreting” Bible verses.
That’s odd, since I didn’t interprete it to begin with . . . I just quoted it.
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You added your irrelevant commentary about ‘cons’ ignoring ‘blah blah.’
The passage is not without parallel in the Bible.
In the Old Testament, one doesn’t bring the scruff animals to be sacrificed, you brought the best of of the herd.
You didn’t send the village butcher to do the sacrifice, it was done by a priestly figured purified by God’s word and proved to carry the sanctity of the meaning of the sacrifice.
David was sanctioned by God to kill in times of war. However, God wanted to give the message that He values human life above all things when it came to instructing humans how to worship.
This was the message, not that David had tainted hands.
Nathan–
David wanted to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem (now called the First Temple).
What did God say about that: ‘You have shed much blood and have fought many wars. You are not to build a house for my Name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in my sight.’
Now you claim that shedding blood has nothing to do with God’s proscription against David’s building the Temple?
Dude, I see why everything is so simple for you. You read the words . . . you understand nothing, or you simply refuse to understand.
A perfect rebuttal to Theon!
The link from bigcitylib.blogspot posted by Cosmos just calls Theon a denier and then show evidence that he is in fact a denier. They also provide collaborating evidence that he is a a denier by indicating that he is a geezer. Gotcha! Theon is a Denier! He can not deny that he is a Denier now!
Wow Cosmos has really put the scientific smack down on you CONS by showing that a denier really is a denier!
“I was, in effect, Hansen’s supervisor because I had to justify his funding, allocate his resources, and evaluate his results. I did not have the authority to give him his annual performance evaluation… “
Read the last bit closely. Being “in effect” Hansen’s supervisor is here contrasted with being “in reality” Hansen’s supervisor (being the guy who gives Hansen his annual performance appraisal, in other words), which, frankly does linguistic violence to the term.
So, in short, Theon was not Hansen’s “supervisor” in any accepted sense of the word.
Pure speculation. Do you understand the ranking system at NASA? H e approved budgets, allocated resources and evaluated his results. Says supervisor to me. Sounds like some reality denier’s dodge, at best.
3) He’s a geezer, and therefore fits the standard profile of a climate change denier.
Again, sounds like some reality denier’s best effort at ad-hominem. Don’t you get all pi$$y about ad-hominem cosmos?
4) He’s being working the climate skeptic “rubber chicken” circuit for about a year now,
Is that a scientific peer reviewed term? Sounds like a desperate reality denier to me.
Howsa bout that cosmos?
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RFL
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink
A perfect rebuttal to Theon!
The link from bigcitylib.blogspot posted by Cosmos just calls Theon a denier and then show evidence that he is in fact a denier. They also provide collaborating evidence that he is a a denier by indicating that he is a geezer. Gotcha! Theon is a Denier! He can not deny that he is a Denier now!
Wow Cosmos has really put the scientific smack down on you CONS by showing that a denier really is a denier!
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I’m in denial denying that.
As I said earlier, Regular, I don’t discuss anything important with you.
CapnAmerica,
Where did I say that David’s sheeding blood has nothing to do with God’s proscription against David building the Temple?
Again, this is another one of your strawman arguments.
I made no such statement and no such argument.
I merely asked you to show me where the verse was claiming that David was impure and unfit for holiness?
There is nothing in the Chapter which says that.
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CapnAmerica
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:11 am | Permalink
As I said earlier, Regular, I don’t discuss anything important with you.
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Too bad.
But don’t peek at it – I know you will.
Try not to though, you can’t resist.
(chortles)
Regular,
It was a good post.
SolDevVB posted January 28, 2009 at 11:01 am
praise be cosmos.
How much has the earth heated over the last 8 years cosmos?
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You mean compared to the similar El Nino in 1988? And ignoring the recent solar minimum? Look at the global temperature graphs yourself.
Equivocation, they name is Nathan.
So God likes shedding of blood, but not for Temple Builders.
Why would that be, do you think.
Oh, that’s right. You don’t think.
What’s the argument here?
I don’t think that God loves War. I do think God will allow one side to be victorious according to His will.
Such a weak faith cosmos.
Praise be
Perhaps cosmo can tell us why John Holdren, the new Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, suggested in 2006, “global seal levels could rise 13 feet by the end of the century”.
The IPCC sez it would be 13 inches.
Why the descrepancy?
So David was pure and was fit for holiness . . . however, God simply didn’t like “blood shedders” (nothing to do with how pure or holy they are) building his house of worship.
Yup.
Got it.
God is arbitrary and illogical. And what he decrees is for no good reason.
Sheesh!
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CapnAmerica
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:17 am | Permalink
So David was pure and was fit for holiness . . . however, God simply didn’t like “blood shedders” (nothing to do with how pure or holy they are) building his house of worship.
Yup.
Got it.
God is arbitrary and illogical. And what he decrees is for no good reason.
Sheesh!
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One thing is for sure, God would never ask you in that situation. :)
Kinda like if David had cracked eggs at the small end instead of the big end and God decided that only people who cracked eggs at the big end could build temples.
Yeah. I think I understand the FUNDY position now.
The AGW deniers here are especially dumb this morning.
They are demanding a “scientific smack down” of a non-scientific opinion from Marc Morano’s (Sen. Inhofe (R-Oil) “650″ list.
David was a Warrior King ordained by God. Holy? No more than anyone. Flawed fallen man who loved God.
God’s plan and will don’t make much sense to us while on earth no doubt about it.
Capn sounds like a great guy to have at your Bible Study.
Calling God illogical is like a 9th grader being mad at Calculus for being hard to understand.
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CapnAmerica
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:21 am | Permalink
Kinda like if David had cracked eggs at the small end instead of the big end and God decided that only people who cracked eggs at the big end could build temples.
Yeah. I think I understand the FUNDY position now.
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You poke a small hole in each end, blow through one end and the egg comes out in its complete, unbroken form.
There are also guidelines for those who are to be named deacons.
But do prattle on Crapn…
Such a weak faith cosmos.
Praise be.
The items above were things in todays news that concerned me and I just wanted to share with the blog.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:22 am | Permalink
The AGW deniers here are especially dumb this morning.
They are demanding a “scientific smack down” of a non-scientific opinion from Marc Morano’s (Sen. Inhofe (R-Oil) “650? list.
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cosmos is not a scientist.
cosMo, So what about his age or if he’s retired. He’e free to speak his mind now. Are you one of those AGW alarmists that want to euthanize the retired to reduce world popluation to allegedly save the planet?
Are you claiming you know more about scientific methodology than he is?
The more data and research about “climate change”, the more skeptical the scientists become. Do you think we should stop all research and put all our faith in the alarmists?
“The AGW deniers here are especially dumb this morning.”
Broken record.
Praise be.
“Are you one of those AGW alarmists that want to euthanize the retired to reduce world popluation to allegedly save the planet?”
Speaking of.
The same John Holdren, in 1973, said the US population of 210 million was “too many” and warned that “280 million in 2040 is likely to be much too many.” The US population today is 304 million. Are there too many Americans?
No wonder Algore and the AGW alarmists refuse to debate, they know they can’t win.
Hey greenies talk to people in some states south of us and back east about global warming NOW and see how fast you would get shoveled out the door, with the snow and ice. Al Gore in DC is part of the act.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28873371/
Cosmos asks for errors in the bigcitylib.blogspot post bashing Theon as if it were a scientifc refutation of Theon.
Cosmos would have us believe then that if there are no errors to be found in that blogspot then the blogspot’s position is scientifically sound.
However, All the blogspot did was try to defame a “denier” using cheap shots, not science.
Now Cosmos is taken back that we were actually expecting a scientific argument in the bigcitylib.blogspot posting???
People can prove Cosmos wrong in so many ways and he acts as if he can’t read the posts. I have just quit trying. He is like my kids used to be when I told them ‘no’ and they would ask over and over again until I said if you ask me hundreds of times the answer is still ‘no’.
Cosmos thinks if he just keeps posting the same ole same ole it will change SOMEBODIES mind. Never happens.
“Furthermore, some scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results. In doing so, they neither explain what they have modified in the observations, nor explain how they did it. They have resisted making their work transparent so that it can be replicated independently by other scientists. This is clearly contrary to how science should be done. Thus there is no rational justification for using climate model forecasts to determine public policy,”
Scientific methodology indeed.
Praise be.
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Suggesting the planet will soon reach an irreversible “tipping point” of damage to the climate, former Vice President Al Gore plans to tell members of Congress on Wednesday that the U.S. needs to join international talks on a treaty.
EVERYBODY PANIC!!! But, bury your car first.
Then, PANIC!!!!!
“they would ask over and over again until I said if you ask me hundreds of times the answer is still ‘no’.”
Sounds like my wife, after she ate that damned wedding cake!
the planet will soon reach an irreversible “tipping point” of damage to the climate,
What? This global cooling?
Soon?
What’s soon?
Much won’t happen soon.
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Regular
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:26 am | Permalink
cosmos is not a scientist.
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Praise be he’s not.
“What? This global cooling?”
Obviously, Sol knows nothing about nothing.
Praise be.
fleettwood,
Thank you for proving you can not understand the science of cosmos faith.
praise be
CapnAmerica,
Who or what are you arguing against?
I have yet to even offer any kind of commentary on the verse.
I merely asked you a question about yours. You said that God thought of David as impure and unfit for holiness in your question to me.
I simply asked for you to explain where God said that David was impure and unfit for holiness.
I can’t answer your question when it is based on an unproven assertion.
The verse tells us that God wanted the Temple to be a symbol of peace in quiet in the days of Solomon. (verse 9)
It would be rather odd for God to do so by having a man such as David build him this symbol who had shed so much blood.
No where does it say that God thought any less of David or that he was “impure and unfit for holiness.”
Fleet women are just programed that way. It just doesn’t kick in until there are more ‘mature’. Mine kicked in when my kids became teenagers.
My second comment was always “I can’t help it if your friends parents don’t love them enough to say no”.
They hated that one.
No wonder Algore and the AGW alarmists refuse to debate, they know they can’t win.
I suggest we do the same to cosMo and give him some of his own medicine. We should either ignore him, call him a reality denier or just say “praise be”.
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donndublin
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:52 am | Permalink
No wonder Algore and the AGW alarmists refuse to debate, they know they can’t win.
I suggest we do the same to cosMo and give him some of his own medicine. We should either ignore him, call him a reality denier or just say “praise be”.
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My grandmother was always partial to “glory be!”
:)
“Fleet women are just programed that way.”
I think it is something in the cake batter. Or it could be in the icing. I’m not sure.
My father was partial to #$%&!!!!
She refused to lunch with Hank and debate. Her faith is truly weak.
glory be! Reg :)
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SolDevVB
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:58 am | Permalink
She refused to lunch with Hank and debate. Her faith is truly weak.
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…or is embarrassed about her atrocious table manners and ponderous stomach.
Cosmos won’t be able to google her blogs for help.
That is the point.
Perhaps Cosmos would reconsider if Wi-Fi was available?
Maybe cosmo could have conversations with herself, just like farmgirl does.
You AGW deniers have some great ad hominem attacks!
Please continue proving that you cannot refute AGW science, by continuing to make your silly ad hominem attacks.
Free Money stand in Line, if you have a cause get signed up with Senator or Representative and get on board. No cause or problem to big or small the government can help and do it for you. Not!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01282009/postopinion/editorials/825b__keep_the_change_152320.htm
Nathaniel,
Your father is obviously very knowledgeable about climate science, and is a skilled debater. /huge sarcasm OFF
Here’s why Nathaniel’s father believes that climate scientists worldwide are wrong about ENSO affecting global temperatures:
* Hank thinks that I “ain’t smart enough. . .”
* Hank lied about what I’ve posted.
* Hank tried to use an irrelevant, bogus “authority” line — his long-ago Navy “liason”(sic) duty.
* Just because Hank says so. (uh-huh. . .)
* Hank thinks that I’ve demonstrated my “incredible ignorance”.
* Hank thinks that all the climate science and data worldwide is done by Al Gore’s “butt-boy”.
I knew it…the sun is shining, the temp is out of the basement – must be AGW…nah, I’m not that “gullible”…HEHEHE.
“george
Posted January 28, 2009 at 12:24 pm | Permalink
Free Money stand in Line, if you have a cause get signed up with Senator or Representative and get on board. No cause or problem to big or small the government can help and do it for you. Not!”
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Almost had me…I was going to propose a grant for $2.5 million to study the effects of the Kansas.com O.L. on the rationale of society and governmental policy.
cosmos_originally
Posted January 28, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink
And you still don’t have the balls to face him. Pa-the-tic.
Weak.
Weak.
Weak.
Praise be.
SolDevVB,
You’re confused. Hank does not have the balls to admit that he cannot post a rational argument against AGW science. All Hank can do is stall, and run away like a coward.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 28, 2009 at 12:41 pm | Permalink
SolDevVB,
You’re confused. Hank does not have the balls to admit that he cannot post a rational argument against AGW science. All Hank can do is stall, and run away like a coward.
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10 bucks on Hank in a ‘face to face.’ :D
Hank has offered a lunch/debate. I think you know who the coward is. Question is can you admit it? Me thinks not.
10 bucks on Hank in a ‘face to face.’ :D
Man, you’re at 100:1 odds and I still have to turn it down. Hate to waste $10.
WASHINGTON — The House has defeated a bill to postpone the upcoming transition from analog to digital television broadcasting by four months to June 12.
House Republicans succeeded in scuttling a bill to delay the transition, which is scheduled for Feb. 17, less than two days after the Senate unanimously passed the plan.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/28/AR2009012801883.html?hpid=topnews
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The damn Democrats can’t even pass a TV bill. Looks like the Republicans are still calling the shots.
Too bad AGW deniers. . . the non-global winter storm did not prevent Al Gore from testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
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XXX
Posted January 28, 2009 at 12:45 pm | Permalink
The damn Democrats can’t even pass a TV bill. Looks like the Republicans are still calling the shots.
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Oh crap – now we get to watch those Cox commercials for another five months.
AGW deniers,
Please continue proving that you cannot refute AGW science, by continuing to make your silly ad hominem attacks.
Hey cosmos,
How many times have the climate models been correct? Why do alarmists have to lie about their data –
“Furthermore, some scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results. In doing so, they neither explain what they have modified in the observations, nor explain how they did it. They have resisted making their work transparent so that it can be replicated independently by other scientists. This is clearly contrary to how science should be done. Thus there is no rational justification for using climate model forecasts to determine public policy,”
Scientific methodology indeed.
Praise be.
Boy, when you have to lie, cheat and scam your “theory” – read:Hansen and al-Gore – you really must be proud.
SolDevVB posted January 28, 2009 at 12:51 pm
How many times have the climate models been correct?
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The hind-casting models, which closely match the observed temperatures?
Or the Arctic sea ice models, which all seem to have underestimated that important melting by decades?
Regular
Posted January 28, 2009 at 12:47 pm | Permalink
Oh crap – now we get to watch those Cox commercials for another five months.
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Nah. If this stands, we go digital in a couple of weeks. Fine with me. If you don’t have your box yet, you’re probably some kind of procrastinating bastid.
SolDevVB,
I fixed it for you.
Boy, when you have rely on an unconfirmed claim made by John Theon in Marc Morano’s “650″ list, you really must be proud.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 28, 2009 at 1:01 pm | Permalink
SolDevVB posted January 28, 2009 at 12:51 pm
How many times have the climate models been correct?
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The hind-casting models, which closely match the observed temperatures?
Or the Arctic sea ice models, which all seem to have underestimated that important melting by decades?
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Appears to me that cosmos just admitted that computer modeling is inaccurate because it underestimated melting of ice.
Thanks for the admission cosmos, that climate computer models are inaccurate.
“Earnings at AT&T fell 23.6 percent in the fourth quarter, narrowly missing analyst estimates,…”
That’s weird. Usually they are a mile off.
“The company’s fourth-quarter adjusted loss missed Wall Street expectations, but its revenue came in slightly above expectations.”
That’s weird. Usually they don’t miss two in one article. Usually they are spot on.
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fleettwood
Posted January 28, 2009 at 1:23 pm | Permalink
“Earnings at AT&T fell 23.6 percent in the fourth quarter, narrowly missing analyst estimates,…”
That’s weird. Usually they are a mile off.
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Shoot, now AT&T will probably lay off a few thousand who will want health care for their kids . . . the bastids.
Non peer reviewed number fudging. Rewrite history. Rewrite the present.
Scientific method indeed.
Praise be.
http://www.nsidc.org/seaice/environment/global_climate.html
Environment: Global Climate
Do changes in the formation and distribution of sea ice affect our global climate? Yes. The role of sea ice is greater than you might think.
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More at link.
The role of sea ice is greater than you might think.
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Sea ice makes me gassy.
Do changes in the formation and distribution of sea ice affect our global climate? Yes.
October 2008 Possibly Set for Record Sea Ice Extent Increase Rate
http://omniclimate.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/october-2008-possibly-set-for-record-sea-ice-extent-increase-rate/
That must be why it’s so much colder these days.
MH:
I’ve always admired Bill O’Reilly’s Talking Points… helps teach wingnuts to read!
“Shoot, now AT&T will probably lay off a few thousand who will want health care for their kids . . . the bastids.”
They might have to cancel cable, sell the new cars.
You know, be responsible. You know, not walk around with your hand out.
Fleetwood,
There are people who are truly in need and then there are others….
I have helped with Toys for Tots several years now.
We used to help people out to their cars and escort them through the line as well.
Some of us would be in our Dress Blues helping people get food, clothes, and their toys. We would hand them off to another in Camies to take it out to their cars.
I have done both jobs, different years.
It was amazing how many people would be talking on their cell phones while wearing name brand clothes. Amazing.
Then you take them out to their car to see a brand new Lincoln Navigator with rims and Bose surround sound system.
At the time I was driving an 86 Nissan with over 250k miles and wore discount clothes I got from Kohl’s or Burlington Coat factory. I had a cell phone, but one of the cheapest you could get.
And I am helping give these people food, clothes, and toys while they are driving those cars and wearing nicer things and some of them even acted indignant at the toys they got.
BlueJay is a perfect example of the arrogance of people like that.
He sits around and brags about not working for “the man” while holding his hand out for the government to take money from “the man” and give it to him.
What is wrong with these people?
“What is wrong with these people?”
When they started calling some programs “entitlements”, some believed it.
AT&T already announce layoffs of 12,000 this year. I bet that number increases.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-attlayoffs_05bus.ART.State.Edition2.4a21e42.html
The gift that keeps on giving…
Biden Apologizes Over Roberts Joke
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/28/biden-apologizes-roberts-joke/
http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/stories/2009/01/26/daily36.html
Boeing Co. said it plans to cut a total of 10,000 employees this year; that’s 5,500 more than what the aerospace giant said it would lay off last week .
Boeing said its fourth-quarter revenues dipped 27 percent, falling to $12.7 million from $17.5 million in 2007, due mainly to the impact of the 58-day strike by its Machinists’ union.
Chicago-based Boeing (NYSE: BA) reported a fourth-quarter loss of $56 million, a loss of 8 cents per share, which compares with income of $1 billion, or $1.36 a share a year earlier.
For fiscal 2008, Boeing said revenues fell to $61 million from $66.4 million in 2008. The company reported income dropped 34 percent to $2.7 billion, or $3.71 per share, from $4.1 billion or $5.28 a share a year earlier.
In a conference call, Boeing CEO Jim McNerney said the company plans to cut 6 percent of its work force this year, or 10,000 employees. He wasn’t specific whether the cuts would come at Boeing’s plant in Gresham or elsewhere in the company.
“Boeing said its fourth-quarter revenues dipped 27 percent, falling to $12.7 million from $17.5 million in 2007, due mainly to the impact of the 58-day strike by its Machinists’ union.”
due mainly to the impact of the 58-day strike by its Machinists’ union.
HA!!
Gore urges action on stimulus plan’s environmental provisions‘
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/28/al-gore-senate-stimulus-environment
“The largely reverential reception for Gore, from Republicans as well as Democrats on the Senate committee, was further evidence of the dramatic shift in thinking on the environment.
With Obama in the White House and Democrats in control of Congress, there is now broad support for dealing with climate change.”
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Professor Gore’s Climate Change Lecture Warmly Received by Senate‘
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/energy/2009/01/28/professor-gores-climate-change-lecture-warmly-received-by-senate.html
Praise be!
No Nathan, I will not go out with you. No matter HOW much you flirt with me.
Gore urges action on stimulus plan’s environmental provisions‘
Of course he does. Momma needs a new pair of shoes. al-Gore wants to be paid.
Oh and by the way Nathan?
I am SURE that you have had FAR more of your share of the public’s money than I have.
It’s already too late. Why waste our money?
“WASHINGTON (AFP) – Climate change is “largely irreversible” for the next 1,000 years even if carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions could be abruptly halted, according to a new study led by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).”
Hi JR! Good to see you.
Regulations? We dont NEED no stinkin’ business regulations. Or funding for inspections and enforcement.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090128/ap_on_he_me/med_salmonella_outbreak
We all KNOW businesses will police themselves.
Just ask the easter bunny…
“I am SURE that you have had FAR more of your share of the public’s money than I have.”
I’m also sure he had to do more than just walk out to his mail box, like you do.
Is al-Gore a scientist? Of course not. How fitting that a politician promotes his own political aspirations.
Is al-Gore peer reviewed?
Praise be.
fleettwood posted January 28, 2009 at 2:38 pm
It’s already too late. Why waste our money?
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fleettwood yet again proves why he is the BDP.
I am SURE that you have had FAR more of your share of the public’s money than I have.
I think he earned it. How many tours did you serve in Iraq? When was the last time you stepped in harm’s way in defense of your country?
And SolDevVB continues with his silly, ineffective ad hominem attacks on Al Gore. . .
Good to see you too kfg. I wish you lived closer and could have joined us for lunch.
Is al-Gore a scientist cosmos?
Praise be.
“fleettwood yet again proves why he is the BDP.
And SolDevVB continues with his silly, ineffective ad hominem attacks on Al Gore. . .”
Glory be.
Praise be.
Gores be.
“SolDevVB” asks –
“How many tours did you serve in Iraq?”
The more pertinent question is “how many tour did ‘Nathaniel’ serve in Iraq?
The answer is one. Although many real Marines have served three and four tours.
The significant lesson: The Marines didn’t want “Nathaniel” back.
“When was the last time you stepped in harm’s way in defense of your country?”
September 12, 2001. When Shrub asked me to, I went shopping!
“Good to see you too kfg. I wish you lived closer and could have joined us for lunch.”
I love the goverment cheese sandwich!
I would guess that Nathan, fleetie and solie have eaten at least as much of the Governments food as I have.
I haven’t had any. I can’t speak for them.
BlueJay seems to think that sitting at home and begging for government handouts is equal to serving in the military and being compensated for the hard work you do.
BlueJay,
Are you using that computer you guys were working on earlier? I couldn’t even understand that ‘puterese’ you were speaking.
I spent 9+ years serving my country. I have eaten in the mess hall and MREs. I have never accepted welfare nor food stamps.
What have you done for your country? How much in welfare/food stamps have you accepted?
I wish I could come to lunch too, JR.
I’m tired of my own cooking!
I did not make you a subject of discussion Nathan. Would you like me to make you one? Sorry, don’t have the time. And frankly, your reputation here precedes you.
No linda, I’m posting from elsewhere. I’ll delve more deeply into Linux later.
WTF !!! Why didn’t they have MREs like this when I was in….
http://www.mreinfo.com/us/mre/menu-xxviii-2008.html
SolDevVB,
If we ever meet up, I will bring you a couple of MRE’s so you can try them out.
I’d appreciate that Nat. Unless you plan a visit to the great white north, I fear we shall never meet. Do appreciate the offer though.
Look at this photo and zoom in on various areas. It’s remarkable! A robotic camera mount was used, and more than 200 images were stitched together to come up with the finished product. It’s like the ultimate Where’s Waldo of Washington. You can clearly identify Barack Obama at the podium, and find lots of luminaries in the crowd. You can zoom in multiple times. Have fun!
http://www.davidbergman.net/blog/2009/01/22/how-i-made-a-1474-megapixel-photo-during-president-obamas-inaugural-address/
“Unless you plan a visit to the great white north,…”
Bigot
If you’ve ever had to “rehydrate” a pork or beef patty… In the field…Or “rehydrate” a ketchup pack.
Hey, we used to mix the peanut butter packs with the cocoa packs. Add about a canteen lid of water and spread it on the “cracker”. Good stuff Maynard.
Put the sugar in the cream pack and make ranger cookies…
SolDevVB,- Whatever the MRE menu you use, they are all “self-sealing” as I recall from my exposure! Diarrhea is not a problem!
Go Sarah! Palin 2012!
“Word has it that several pro-Palin military families here in Alaska were contacted to be part of a commercial set to air during the Superbowl pre-game show. The shooting was scheduled around Sarah Palin’s calendar so she could appear in the spot. The premise of the spot is to thank the troops, and it’s being paid for by an outside private source.”
http://www.themudflats.net/
In Ranger school, we’d eat the toilet paper. You were so damn hungry anything that was edible got eaten. The joke was that the MRE “wiped” on the way out.
Rumor had it too, that the gum was a laxative because the MREs bound you up so bad.
This should get you going Linda…
http://www.sarahpac.com/
Linda thanks for all of your help in keeping Palin on the front burner. Most thinking people have moved on to what is happening today in our country and how to address the economy. We appreciate all of the monetary help also.
Palin 2012!!
‘You have shed much blood and have fought many wars. You are not to build a house for my Name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in my sight.’
I believe the verse was talking about David building the temple, not him personally being impure and unfit for holiness.
“because” is a “hina” clause(purpose clause)… it means, literally, “because (in my sight) you have shed much blood on the earth.”
That might clear up the discussion…. This is quite likely a reference to David sending Bathsheba’s husband to the front lines of the battle where he would surely be killed…
I know, Sol! Isn’t it exciting!? I think she will do a wonderful job of fund-raising. With any luck she will raise more money than anyone else, do better in all the primaries and caucuses and win the Republican Party nomination!
Too bad AGW deniers. . . the non-global winter storm did not prevent Al Gore from testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
‘Gore warns of damage from climate change‘
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/01/28/gore.climate/
” Story Highlights
* Global treaty “must be negotiated this year,” he tells Senate panel
* “Frankly, the science is screaming at us,” John Kerry agrees
* U.S. must take leadership role in alternate energy, Richard Lugar says
* Gore also encourages support for economic stimulus plan “
SolDevVB,
About 10 years ago the MRE’s were more fun. They were about the same, but you could be creative with them.
One pack might come with applesauce, a granola bar, and some flavored beverage powder.
You could mix them all up and make some tasty and crucnhy sauce!
Things like that.
Now, they are still good, but leave little room for such creativity as most things you can’t really mix and everything already comes ready.
Oh well.
“…the non-global winter storm did not prevent Al Gore from testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.”
Not that it matters anymore. On to the next problem! This one is finished.
“Climate change is “largely irreversible” for the next 1,000 years even if carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions could be abruptly halted,…”
‘Gore warns of damage from climate change‘
Of course he did. He is not a scientist and he wants to get paid.
* Global treaty “must be negotiated this year,” he tells Senate panel
Doesn’t he have a company that sells carbon credits? Sounds like a smart business move.
* “Frankly, the science is screaming at us,” John Kerry agrees
Didn’t Kerry donate like $250,000 to al-Gore?
I agree too. The science is telling us it is getting colder!
* Gore also encourages support for economic stimulus plan “
See the first comment…
Now, they are still good,
Leave it to them to mess up a good thing. Must have been a study group that found when troops are allowed too much creativity…
fleettwood
Posted January 28, 2009 at 3:04 pm | Permalink
“Unless you plan a visit to the great white north,…”
Bigot
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LMFAO, that made my day!
So, JR, if you’re still out there…
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-128-2/#comment-511061
Evolution: The Next 200 Years:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126932.600-evolution-the-next-200-years.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news
I’m personally interested in seeing new research on the RNA world hypothesis.
I also can’t shake this feeling that spending more money, time and effort into exploring the deep ocean will reveal a ton of new and exciting research in evolutionary biology.
We don’t know jack about the ocean floor, and that fascinates me.
Enough with space exploration already, let’s start with what’s right here.
Nathan, in reference to BlueJay, spouts >>>>
“He sits around and brags about not working for “the man” while holding his hand out for the government to take money from “the man” and give it to him.”
i just have to call BS on that one… Nathan, your mother/step-mother doesnt work or “the man” — Boxlock doesnt work for “the man” — Okie doesnt work for “the man” —
And furthermore, I have YET to hear Blue Jay ask for one damn dime from the government… His son is entitled to the Kansas version of SCHIP… And that isnt something for BlueJay… but for his son…
Now, because Boxlock, and Okie, and Blue Jay dont work for “the man” — How does that put Blue Jay in your version of a sub-category?? Hmmm??? Is it because his particular business doesnt turn as much of a profit?? Or what??
Nathan, do you own/operate your own business, or do work for “the man”???
And dont even try to make this a religious issue… Because it isnt!!
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Wahine_Tara
I’m personally interested in seeing new research on the RNA world hypothesis.
I also can’t shake this feeling that spending more money, time and effort into exploring the deep ocean will reveal a ton of new and exciting research in evolutionary biology.
We don’t know jack about the ocean floor, and that fascinates me.
Enough with space exploration already, let’s start with what’s right here.
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The recent findings about both the biology and physiology of the life found at the mid-Atlantic ridge is mind boggling. Finding the basic bacteria that converts the vented gases to food, and the life supported by that just blows me away. And we still know very little about whats down there.
But space also fascinates me. I hope I’m around when the new space telescope launches in 2013. With the ability to actually photograph planets in distant star systems, finding evidence of life on other planets would be one of the greatest discoveries of mankind. Imagine: finding we are not alone. I wonder what recipes they got:-)
The final inauguration figures are in. 1,673,459 people attended Obama’s inauguration.
Even more amazing is only 14 missed work.
RE: MREs- When I went thru WInter Operations training in Minn., we got the winter version in a white envelope that was a double ration. You felt like you ate a manhole cover after that.
JM,
Good point, but the deep sea has some recipes of its own. Like the secret to eternal life :D
“‘Immortal’ jellyfish swarming across the world”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/4357829/Immortal-jellyfish-swarming-across-the-world.html
Of course, jellies are about as primitive as a clump of seaweed, but still…imagine stuffing them into bottles and selling them to Olay.
I’ll do a little diving and retire a billionaire, hee!
“His son is entitled to the Kansas version of SCHIP… And that isnt something for BlueJay… but for his son…”
There’s that word again.
“Entitled” Latin for gimmegimme
“i just have to call BS on that one… Nathan, your mother/step-mother doesnt work or “the man” — Boxlock doesnt work for “the man” — Okie doesnt work for “the man” —”—Chas
Oh B.S. Chas! I work for several different “the man”.
I am responsible to several different manufactures, and have to answer to them, to get their products before their potential customers.
I have to answer to those same customers which are my customers as well. I am frequently caught between them when things go wrong or there are problems with equipment or delivery or whatever.
Don’t give me that that line, you don’t know, quit acting like you do.
“OOPS!!! President tries to walk through window…”
Wow, this could be a funny next four year. Wonder if we’ve got a bit of an Alfred E. Newman for President. I think the ears may show a family resemblance. I guess we shall see.
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HLP
Posted January 28, 2009 at 3:53 pm | Permalink
The final inauguration figures are in. 1,673,459 people attended Obama’s inauguration.
Even more amazing is only 14 missed work.
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The other 1,673,445 had been laid off:-)
Chas just for the record for 30 years I worked for ‘the man’ as well as starting up a new family business part of that time. My salary was what kept us going in the early days of our business.
Just so you won’t be confused.
Really clever, “HLP” –
Even funnier the first time I read it –
http://www.bizpain.com/2009/01/of-15-million-people-at-the-inauguration-only-14-missed-work/
Wahine_Tara
Posted January 28, 2009 at 3:54 pm | Permalink
JM,
Good point, but the deep sea has some recipes of its own. Like the secret to eternal life :D
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My God, that is scary: Imagine being stuck posting on this blog for eternity;-0
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gster
Posted January 28, 2009 at 3:53 pm | Permalink
RE: MREs- When I went thru WInter Operations training in Minn., we got the winter version in a white envelope that was a double ration. You felt like you ate a manhole cover after that.
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We got 1945 ‘C’ rats. You did eat a manhole cover if you ate them.
Well, Okie, and Boxlock…. I’m very sorry… I thought sure that both of you had said you have your OWN businesses… which would in essence make YOU “the man”…. generically speaking of course….
Okie, as it stands RIGHT NOW, just so I am clear…. You are NOT working for “the man” — Right??
Boxlock, you are NOW saying that you do NOT own your own business??? I just want to get this clear…..
Tax Refunds Now on Hold in California: ABC News
“ABC News has learned that tax refunds are now on hold in California for the first time in state history, according to the state controller’s office…
California has had no money in its general fund for the past 17 months, and has been paying its bills by borrowing from Wall Street and special internal funds.
If the state’s legislators and governor do not reach a budget agreement that brings immediate funds into the state’s coffers, the state’s borrowed funds will be entirely exhausted at the end of February, according to the controller’s office. ”
Well, congratulations there to a far left Dimocrat state government, your policies are really working out well.
“The final inauguration figures are in. 1,673,459 people attended Obama’s inauguration.”—JMWalker
Funny, that many people could travel to and attend that inauguration in bitterly cold weather, but approx. 200,000 couldn’t even get out of New Orleans in 85 degree weather and 4 days notice for a hurricane. Puzzling?
The verse tells us that God wanted the Temple to be a symbol of peace in quiet in the days of Solomon. (verse 9)
It would be rather odd for God to do so by having a man such as David build him this symbol who had shed so much blood.
No where does it say that God thought any less of David or that he was “impure and unfit for holiness.”
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Sure . . . sure.
I got it now. God didn’t think that David did anything wrong or anything–for instance, sending Uriah to his death so he could get to Uriah’s wife Bathsheba or anything which the Prophet Nathan then rebuked him for, God was just concerned with the “symbolism” . . . you know, how it’d look.
Maybe that explains why the modern Israelis can’t rebuild what would be the Third Temple. Too much blood on their hands . . . with the weapons we give them.
Like I said Chas….”you don’t know, quit acting like you do”.
Remind me again why Moses wasn’t allowed to see the Promised Land?
Good thing it didn’t have anything to do with killing another human or anything like that . . .
Tax Refunds Now on Hold in California: ABC News
“ABC News has learned that tax refunds are now on hold in California for the first time in state history, according to the state controller’s office…
Well, congratulations there to a far left Dimocrat state government, your policies are really working out well.
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Hey, Boxofrocks–
The Govenor of KaLEEfornya is Ahnold Swahtzenegger.
Registered Republican.
Sheesh . . .
What did I just say Boxlock?? From all that you have ever posted here about your work, you have said you were self-employed… So, do you own your own business, or do in fact, work for “the man”??
I guess I could put it this way: Do you have your OWN company, or are you self-employed, but sell for another Company?? I do believe there is a difference… However, my original comment wasnt even directed at you, but rather, at Nathan…
Chas I am old and retired now. But do ocassionally still work when needed. Just for clarification.
When I was BJ’s age I was working two jobs and paying for my kids insurance myself.
“Registered Republican.”
Just barely. He is a full RINO.
“Funny, that many people could travel to and attend that inauguration in bitterly cold weather, but approx. 200,000 couldn’t even get out of New Orleans in 85 degree weather and 4 days notice for a hurricane. Puzzling?”
There was nothing puzzling at all about Sheriffs and their Deputies standing on bridges threatening to shoot anybody who wanted to walk across.
What?! You didn’t hear that on Fox News?!
“What?! You didn’t hear that on Fox News?!”
Maybe at democratunderground,
where: “we tell you what to think”
lindainks55
Posted January 28, 2009 at 3:14 pm | Permalink
I know, Sol! Isn’t it exciting!? I think she will do a wonderful job of fund-raising. With any luck she will raise more money than anyone else, do better in all the primaries and caucuses and win the Republican Party nomination!
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Only thing more exciting will be when she moves into the White House and we can all say we helped!
HLP
Posted January 28, 2009 at 3:53 pm | Permalink
The final inauguration figures are in. 1,673,459 people attended Obama’s inauguration.
Even more amazing is only 14 missed work.
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Yeah, we get it, Hank. A lot of the people at the inauguration were black.
And blacks don’t work . . . they just live parasitical lives of crime on the welfare dime, in CON world.
You are one funny guy, Hank.
More than just blood on his hands!
First Samuel, 18:25-27
After a while, David realized that collecting the prize would be a lot easier if he killed the Philistines first!
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okobserver
Posted January 28, 2009 at 4:31 pm | Permalink
Only thing more exciting will be when she moves into the White House and we can all say we helped!
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You mean like becoming Obama’s kids nanny?
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BoxcarBB
Posted January 28, 2009 at 4:16 pm | Permalink
“The final inauguration figures are in. 1,673,459 people attended Obama’s inauguration.”—JMWalker
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You can’t even get that right.
JM you must not have got the memo. The dems are now helping her be our next prez. They must need your email address.
hehehe
You bring up ‘black’ Capn. and you imply I’m racist? When I look at Linda’s picture I see liberal left wing Kool-aid drinkers.
Race has nothing to do with the joke. Look into your own heart before you judge mine.
Bailout Recipients Hosted Call to Defeat Key Labor Bill
Three days after receiving $25 billion in federal bailout funds, Bank of America Corp. hosted a conference call with conservative activists and business officials to organize opposition to the U.S. labor community’s top legislative priority.
Participants on the October 17 call — including at least one representative from another bailout recipient, AIG — were urged to persuade their clients to send “large contributions” to groups working against the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA), as well as to vulnerable Senate Republicans, who could help block passage of the bill.
Bernie Marcus, the charismatic co-founder of Home Depot, led the call along with Rick Berman, an aggressive EFCA opponent and founder of the Center for Union Facts. Over the course of an hour, the two framed the legislation as an existential threat to American capitalism, or worse.
okobserver
Posted January 28, 2009 at 4:23 pm | Permalink
Chas I am old and retired now. But do ocassionally still work when needed. Just for clarification.
When I was BJ’s age I was working two jobs and paying for my kids insurance myself.
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Thats wonderful… But that was many years ago… You had your work, your husband’s work, and I might add, health insurance then was a LOT less expensive than it is now… Many people… not just Blue Jay, cannot afford health insurance for either themselves, OR their children…
And, for the record, have you not posted numerous times that you OWN your own business?? Just checking….
Okie, please note — I did not, and will not, ask how old you are… ok??
Sure, Hank, sure.
At least you’ve stopped calling Obama a “mulatto,” so we’ve got something to be thankful for . . .
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
. . . George Orwell, “Animal Farm”
. . .
“Not to go on all-fours; that is the Law. Are we not Men? “Not to suck up Drink; that is the Law. Are we not Men? “Not to eat Fish or Flesh; that is the Law. Are we not Men? “Not to claw the Bark of Trees; that is the Law. Are we not Men? “Not to chase other Men; that is the Law. Are we not Men?”
. . . H. G. Wells, “The Island of Dr. Moreau”
. . .
British researchers intend to breed chimera pigs implanted with human genes, so as eventually to be able to harvest organs for transplanting into people.
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In Obamaland, Chicago police found a dead 3-month-old baby boy in a filthy, roach-infested apartment Tuesday, where 10 other children were also living.
There were no community organizers in sight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7iXcKKpdx0&feature=related
Bob Marley performing “Get Up, Stand Up”
Mulatto can’t possibly be racist. You don’t hear it used 12 times a minute on BET-TV!
“Hey, Boxofrocks–
The Govenor of KaLEEfornya is Ahnold Swahtzenegger.
Registered Republican.
Sheesh . . .”
So what nitwit, he’s a RINO with a overwhelmingly Dimocrat state government.
You know that, or are you admitting you are that uninformed?
Troyboy,
Oh where to start?
One: 1984 was a quarter of a century ago.
Two: “Not to go on all-fours; that is the Law. Are we not Men?”
Please, please join the army!
Three: Those pigs are being experimented on because you creeps are screaming your heads off about stem cell research!
Four: dead babies are found in every city in every state in the country. Chicago is no exception. I’d think even you would concede that abortion might be preferable to being born and tortured to death over the next three months.
Five: when is your mother going to get around to giving you that dose of castor oil and an enema? You’re way overdue!
“parkay
Posted January 28, 2009 at 4:52 pm”
Am I going to have to get a new watch?
“At least you’ve stopped calling Obama a “mulatto,””
He is, more correctly, a halfrican-american.
Question for the CONs–
Who said it:
“The corporation is designed to make money without regard to human life, the social good or impact on the environment. Corporate laws impose a legal duty on corporate executives to make as much money as possible for shareholders, although many have moved on to fleece shareholders as well.
“Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labor encourage the formation of larger units of production at the expense of the smaller ones.”
Albert Einstein, “Why I am a Socialist”
Fleetie,
May I ask why you are so obsessively concerned with our President’s pedigree? It certainly didn’t matter to the voters; they’ve already seen what the WASPish Bush did, and race (whatever that might be) certainly didn’t make him superior!
“What did I just say Boxlock?? From all that you have ever posted here about your work, you have said you were self-employed… So, do you own your own business, or do in fact, work for “the man”??”
Chas I have never varied on what I’ve said, I own a part of the company (C Corp.) that I work for, along with a couple of other partners. Technically I work for the company I own. But I also work for “the man”, as you put it, because if I don’t perform to my manufacturers expectations I’m gone and they find someone else.
I’m getting a suspicion you don’t understand corporations or even what I’m saying….not surprised.
““The final inauguration figures are in. 1,673,459 people attended Obama’s inauguration.”—JMWalker
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You can’t even get that right.”
You put it in your post and didn’t contest the number, jerk.
You Have to Love Our Media. And the beat goes on! …And the nay-sayers persist in their intractable denial.
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Headlines On This Date 4 Years Ago:
“Republicans spending $42 million on inauguration while troops Die in unarmored Humvees”
“Bush extravagance exceeds any reason during tough economic times”
“Fat cats get their $42 million inauguration party, Ordinary Americans get the shaft”
Headlines Today:
“Historic Obama Inauguration will cost only $120 million”
“Obama Spends $120 million on inauguration; America Needs A Big Party”
“Everyman Obama shows America how to celebrate”
“Citibank executives contribute $8 million to Obama Inauguration”
Yep. There’s just nothing like fair & unbiased coverage of the news !!!
More quotes:
The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labor—not by force, but on the whole in faithful compliance with legally established rules.
The consequence is that the representatives of the people [gov't] do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population [because of power by the corporations]. Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights.
Unlimited competition leads to a huge waste of labor, and to that crippling of the social consciousness of individuals which I mentioned before.
This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
Yes Boxlock… I understand… Thank you for your clarification…
Yes Boxlock… I understand… Thank you for your clarification…—Chas
And thank you for the your ‘thank you’, and the way you offered it….maybe there is some hope for us after all.
And on another front:
Good News: California Court Sides with Christian School
The California Court of Appeal ruled Tuesday that a Christian high school has the right to make decisions based on its religious beliefs.
The parents of two students had sued California Lutheran High School because it suspended two teenage girls when they violated the school’s code of conduct by having an inappropriate relationship. The court agreed with a lower court that religious schools are not subject to California laws that provide special protections based on sexual orientation.
“Christian schools should be able to make admission and discipline decisions consistent with their religious beliefs,” said Timothy J. Tracey, litigation counsel with the CLS Center for Law & Religious Freedom.
The court ruled that “the whole purpose of sending one’s child to a religious school is to ensure that he or she learns even secular subjects within a religious framework.”
The CLS Center for Law & Religious Freedom is allied with the Alliance Defense Fund.
— Jennifer Mesko
“Christian schools should be able to make admission and discipline decisions consistent with their religious beliefs,” said Timothy J. Tracey, litigation counsel with the CLS Center for Law & Religious Freedom.
The court ruled that “the whole purpose of sending one’s child to a religious school is to ensure that he or she learns even secular subjects within a religious framework.”
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I would agree entirely with the Court ruling in this case…
I’m nowhere as deep into climate change studies as many of you are; however, I have read that both global cooling and global warming are measured in fractions of a degree. What the scientists are looking for is an overall trend by comparing those figures to previous years, decades, or other major time periods.
So when we have an unusually cool time in the summer or an unusually warm time in the winter, neither of those things prove or disprove the issue. They just provide more data for the issue.
I am teachable so if you wish to complain about my posting, I won’t mind (too much!)
Chas we do have a family business. Just for the record we worked many years without taking any money out of the company to get it started. As Boxlock has said you still work for the man even if you own your own company. My salary was what we lived on. We weren’t a two income family.
As I have said before health insurance is the largest single bill we pay monthly for our company as it is for many small businesses.
This is why I believe that people like JR that say they won’t work for ‘the man’ also shouldn’t get the benefit of the taxes people who work for ‘the man’ pay.
On the Christian school issue:
Christian or any other private school that doesn’t get tax dollars should be able to set the cirriculum that the school staff and parents agree on.
The government doesn’t have a dog in this fight and should stay out.
“Fleetie,
May I ask why you are so obsessively concerned with our President’s pedigree?”
I think “obsessively” may be a strong, but I’m glad you asked. Technically, he is not our first “African-American” president. I’m not the one who “obsessively” says it. I’m not even a big fan of all the Hyphen crap. When the next true “African-American” president is elected, I can already see it. He/She will be the first with two Black parents, which changes, somehow, Obama’s “first”. And on it goes.
His election shows, once again, how wrong the Libs are about race relations in this country.
If the Libs don’t have a victim, they have nothing.
Race-baiting… how low.
Republicans sit on their hands today. Irresponsible, shirking, whining. Who’s doing the heavy lifting?
“the failure to win Republican support in the House seemed to echo the early months of the last Democratic administration, when former President Bill Clinton in 1993 had to rely solely on Democrats to win passage of a deficit-reduction bill that was a signature element of his presidency.’
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/29/us/politics/29obama.html?hp
Speaking of race baiting.
From George Will:
“Unfortunately, the civil rights impulse has decayed into coarse political entrepreneurship, exploiting today’s racial spoils system — what Chief Justice John Roberts has termed “a sordid business, this divvying us up by race” for the purpose of separate and unequal treatments. Those who, supposedly celebrating the VRA, say it must not be changed actually are implying that it has not succeeded. The proper way to honor it is by retiring the pre-clearance provision that it has rendered anachronistic.”
Fleetie,
Yeah, I know you aren’t the only racist who says it. What I want to know is why it matters? I wasn’t looking at his face when I voted, I voted for Obama because he was the candidate who wasn’t saying that the way out of the sh*thole we’re in is to keep digging!
The Name is a Clue
January 28, 2009 Posted by John at 6:30 PM
This is one of those news stories that just make you laugh. The Associated Press reports that the snowy owl, native to the far north, has been moving south:
snip
So, why might they be moving south these days? Obviously, because the weather has been getting colder. Global temperatures peaked a decade ago, and this year has seen snow and cold temperatures dipping into the southern states. But this simple explanation–snowy owls are following cold weather and snow southward–escapes the Associated Press. To the AP, the owl’s behavior is a mystery. Maybe a shortage of lemmings is driving the owls south? But no! The lemming population is thriving. That being the case, it’s an insoluble puzzle. The obvious explanation, cold weather, is unmentionable
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/01/022675.php
teehee
Who?
annie_moose introduced me to something brand new today! I love getting to research something new. annie told me there was a genetic predisposition to our political leanings. Guess what!? annie, thanks! I’ve done some reading and once again — you’re right!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080206091437.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7315656.stm
or just google ‘political gene’ and find out it really might be in our genes!
Maybe Republicans won’t frown on genetic engineering once they find they could with enough research, “isolate” this possible gene and…
;-)
Granny,
“The government doesn’t have a dog in this fight and should stay out.”
Well, it might be nice for the public to know that a high school diploma means they know a little something besides the tenets of their personal religion.
Linda,
Are you trying to say that political orientation is anything but a moral choice?
Yeah, well, Jed, if morals have anything to do with our political orientation, they don’t favor the party that toots their horn about being moral! But then you knew that! ;-)
This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
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At least CapnA is honest about his socialist political goals. If the liberal Dems politicians were as honest though, they wouldn’t be in power. Socialism is anti-American.
Jed
Posted January 28, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Permalink
Granny,
“The government doesn’t have a dog in this fight and should stay out.”
Well, it might be nice for the public to know that a high school diploma means they know a little something besides the tenets of their personal religion.
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jeddie you are absolute right. Reading, writing and arithmetic should be taught. The subjects in question are social issues. None of the government business what social issues are taught in a private school. I said it once and I will say it again. Home schoolers do so well in spelling bees, ACTs and SATs because their minds aren’t crammed with the social issues of the moment but with the actual knowledge from which they can build job skills. Same with most private schools. Ever wonder why they do so much better on standardized tests?
“The government doesn’t have a dog in this fight and should stay out.”—okobserver
okobserver, you and I of course agree 100% on this one.
But ya know, not having “a dog in this fight” sure doesn’t seem to enter into it anymore with our government.
Our Constitution is being trashed, the government is in to things never intended and it seems growing like an out of control cancer.
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Jed
Posted January 28, 2009 at 7:34 pm | Permalink
Linda,
Are you trying to say that political orientation is anything but a moral choice?
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Moral authority is never retained by any attempt to hold on to it. It comes without seeking and is retained without effort.
-Mohandas Gandhi
“Well, it might be nice for the public to know that a high school diploma means they know a little something besides the tenets of their personal religion.”—Jed
Whoa Jed, don’t go out there on a limb so far there’s no way back for you now.
Private and Parochial schools typically beat public schools hand down in scholastic testing, and do so with usually much less money, sometimes less than half.
With public schools today a high school diploma means next to nothing many times.
Linda I thought you were the biggest airhead on the blog but I see you share that honor with Jed. You are such a pompous hipocrite that I read you just to stay humble. I never want to be like you. With your talents I can only assume that your ex was much smarter because you do have a son that appears to be intelligent.
Boxlock of course the Lindas and Jeds of the world want the government to teach their children. It relieves them of the responsibility. This is why we have such a low graduation rate in Wichita. Too worried about the social issues and not about the academic.
So, Outie, was that alleged quote something CapN said?? Or was it something somebody else said, and posted as a real quote, by CapN???
If you are going to call someone a pompous hypocrite, at least spell it correctly.
Jed
Posted January 28, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Permalink
Granny,
“The government doesn’t have a dog in this fight and should stay out.”
Well, it might be nice for the public to know that a high school diploma means they know a little something besides the tenets of their personal religion.
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Okie, IF I am reading Jed right here, he is saying that what the private school does with their discipline agenda, is not a matter for the government to be involved with….
AND he says that the education those private school kids come out with, should be more that the religious principles taught by the school… In other words, equal in knowledge with public school high school diplomas…
Now, I dont know what you are arguing against?? I said upthread that I totally agree with the court ruling in this school case…
Now here’s a ol gal that knows ‘change’ should mean, instead of the ‘pig in a poke sake’ “change” Obama kept talking about.
Norma White”
“Here are a few that I believe all Americans want.
Limit Congress from serving more than two terms. That is all that presidents are allowed.
Stop Congress from voting for their own raises. How did that ever get started?
Stop paying for lawmakers’ high-priced insurance premiums. After all, they are only part-time employees. They might pass some law changes on the insurance companies, if they had to find one.
Stop paying lawmakers their full salary after serving just one term, or at retirement. We need to get rid of that pension plan; they’ve let other companies get rid of theirs. You were lucky to get 40 to 50 percent of your salary after working somewhere for 35 years, but they get 100 percent.
Make Congress pay into the Social Security system. They make laws for it. If they spent some of their own money, they might be interested in making it solvent.
Stop handing out aid to illegal aliens. If we did, then Medicaid and the food stamp program would have enough money to aid the aged and the poor.
Secure our borders.
Stop allowing babies born to illegal aliens in the United States automatic U.S. citizenship.
Stop the abuse of our benevolent welfare system. We feed children free meals three times a day until they are 17. Churches give away good, clean clothes. Companies buy and donate school supplies. Emergency rooms provide health care at taxpayer expense and the food stamp program is buying food at home. What are parents doing for their children?
Have a computer program that cross checks Social Security numbers with fingerprints to stop fraud on many fronts. Use it on voter registration, too.
Stop bailing out mortgage companies and banks that give loans to people who cannot afford them.
Stop companies from paying CEOs and other executives outrageous salaries and bonuses while doing away with workers’ pensions.
Stop all unnecessary spending so we will have the money for our nation’s security, and to help needy and elderly Americans.
Stop permitting anyone to have a photo with their face covered on driver’s licenses.
Whoever wins the presidency will not be able to make these changes.
Only members of Congress can do this, as they are the lawmakers.
I don’t believe Congress is interested in changing anything, do you?”
Norma White of Amarillo is a retired network engineer for Southwestern Bell.
Sorry WS I was typing before my spelling skills kicked in.
It doesn’t change the definition however.
Chas are you saying now that private schools have to reduce their education levels to that of public schools. This seems a little harsh.
Ooops… hit send button too soon… Last sentence should read:
“I said upthread that I totally agree with the court ruling in this school case… and I think Jed is saying the same thing…”
“Chas are you saying now that private schools have to reduce their education levels to that of public schools. This seems a little harsh.”–okobserver
Ha, ha, ha!!! Now I’m not laughing at you Chas, really, it’s just that I was thinking the very same thing. I’m telling you that if the parochial school we sent our children to had been as poor in educational results as many of the public schools we would would not have let it go on.
okobserver
Posted January 28, 2009 at 8:25 pm | Permalink
Chas are you saying now that private schools have to reduce their education levels to that of public schools. This seems a little harsh.
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WHY do you constantly try to twist peoples’ words so it comes out the way YOU want??
You know damn well I said no such thing…
And neither did Jed… I agreed with him… The kids in private religious schools should come out with more than just the knowledge of their religious tenets taught by their school… And you also know damned well what the requirements are for public school graduation from high school….
THAT is what I said… If the private school kids get better grades, so be it… good deal!! Please quit trying to twist what I say, just so you have something more to b*tch about??
Obama’s stimulus package should help economy, experts say
“I think it’s a reasonably well-designed package,” said Mark Zandi, the chief economist for forecaster Moody’s Economy.com and a former adviser to the presidential campaign of Republican Arizona Sen. John McCain.
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, in an analysis released Monday and in congressional testimony Tuesday, said that the Democratic stimulus plan generally would get government money into the economy quickly, with 65 percent of it spent by October 2010.
Moody’s Weighs in at
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/875078.html
Boxlock — PLEASE read what I said… The original comment I made, and Jed made had much more to do with the parochial school having the absolute RIGHT to enforce their own code of conduct, without government interference…
In ADDITION, both Jed and I have stated that it is also important for parochial school students graduate with much more knowledge than just the religious tenets taught in their parochial schools…
Neither of us said anything about comparative academic scores/skills of the students…
MY comment is that a parochial graduate should complete the same amount of credits required by the public schools in this, or any other, state…
Now, just what are YOU b*itching about??
Ok Chas maybe I am misunderstanding you. What exactly did you mean by “The kids in private religious schools should come out with more than just the knowledge of their religious tenets taught by their school… “?
They have higher test scores, get in better schools, achieve more, have a higher literacy rate, higher percentage of graduates per class… What am I missing?
The REALLY funny thing, Boxlock… is that I am NOT disasgreeing with you!! LOL!!!
But Chas that is what has to be done to accredited. You are trying to justify the court ruling with a flawed premise.
Number of math credits, language credits, foreign language credits, etc… If the school is accredited it is the same as public school. So why should the government try to affect the cirriculum in any way?
Whew! What a scary game. One of those where you breathe shallowly for awhile, and then one huge deep exhale at the end. On to the other two state college contests that we’re lucky enough to have televised. It’s a good basketball world!
‘Overcrowded Snowy Owl Swoops South‘
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/01/28/snowy-owl-migration.html
Woot! Harry Potter ‘Snow Owls’ spotted in Kansas. :)
“Now, just what are YOU b*itching about??”—Chas
Chas, I’m not b*itching, at you or about you or about what you said….really.
I just thought that for private and parochial schools kids to have the same educational requirements was an absolute given. Got it?
We put ours there for MORE, more of the three ‘R’s’, readin, rightin and rithmetic, and more of it than the public schools we felt could offer. Plus we wanted a fourth ‘R’, religion, actually faith.
Maybe those Snowy Owls are just plain COLD, from you know….climate change. The same thing that’s causing all the grief in the world.
‘Senators receptive as Gore pushes for climate change legislation this year‘
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11575954
‘Gore testifies that U.S. must act quickly to reduce carbon emissions‘
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/877076.html
Algore is a one pony show just like you cosmos.
He’s done well though, made his millions scamming on the subject, how about you cosmos, how are you doing.
Get Algore to share.
Okie says:
“But Chas that is what has to be done to accredited. You are trying to justify the court ruling with a flawed premise.”
WRONG…. That Court ruling had NOTHING to do with the school being accredited…. The Court ruling was that the School could manage its own code of conduct without government interference — Nothing in that case had anything to do with course accreditation… Rather, it had to do with First Amendment rights of the School..
I agree with the Court Ruling…
All the rest of this stuff is just as Boxlock said….
“I just thought that for private and parochial schools kids to have the same educational requirements was an absolute given.”
I find no reason to disagree with that…
Get it now??
This just in . . . RUSH LIMBAUGH FOUND DEAD ON HIS TOILET SEAT
“Miami-Dade Police confirmed that radio commentator Rush Limbaugh was found dead this evening. Preliminary reports indicate it was a drug overdose.
“‘He had a needle sticking out of his arm,’ alleged the Dade County Coroner, Lucy Rodriguez, MD. Drug test showed enough Vicodin, cough syrup and horse tranquilizer to ‘knock an elephant on its a$s,’ Dr. Rodriguez said.
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My sincere condolences to all Ditto Heads . . .
My apologies Chas. It would appear that I misunderstood your post. My sincere apologies.
bigotbawks posted January 28, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Algore is a one pony show just like you cosmos.
He’s done well though, made his millions scamming on the subject, how about you cosmos, how are you doing.
Get Algore to share.
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What’s a matter bigotbawks? Are you jealous of Gore’s (mostly non-carbon related) financial success, and his very important role in climate policy?
Maybe bigotbawks can email his rants to Sen. Inhofe (R-Oil), and Inhofe can use them to convince Congress to vote against the AGW legislation?
“This just in . . . RUSH LIMBAUGH FOUND DEAD ON HIS TOILET SEAT”—Capn
We sure know what kind of crap Capn reads now, as if there was any question before.
We also are given an glimpse into the twisted mind of one hoping for what he posts. Sad really.
Algore is a clown cosmos, anyone with a functioning brain will not need my telling them so, they can see it readily.
I said I sympathized with your loss, Boxlock.
Geez, what more do you want . . .
I said I sympathized with your loss, Boxlock.
Geez, what more do you want . . .
Boxlock–
Honest question:
don’t you think that Rush was less irritable and far funnier when he was coked to the gills on drugs?
“I said I sympathized with your loss, Boxlock.
Geez, what more do you want . . .”
“I said I sympathized with your loss, Boxlock.
Geez, what more do you want . . .”—Capn
Capn, I want you to say it TWO MORE TIMES!!
“don’t you think that Rush was less irritable and far funnier when he was coked to the gills on drugs?”—Capn
Well Capn….aren’t we all. Ha!
Poor bigotbawks is jealous of Al Gore.
You just can’t get it can you cosmos?
Nobody cares.
Cap’n
“RUSH LIMBAUGH FOUND DEAD ON HIS TOILET SEAT”
What I heard was that they found two empty boxes of Ex-Lax next to an overflowing toilet with an enormous empty skin draped over it. They were still having trouble confirming the ID.
MuhahahAHAHAH!
Jed–I love it.
Screw you Microsoft. Who needs Windows when ya got Linux?
“Jed-I love it.”
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Rush loves it too, cashin’ in on the liberal knee jerk he orchestrated. All the way to the bank.
Uh huh outie.
I can HEAR how happy Rush, Hannity, Levin etc. are in their voices on the air. Maybe one of them will have a stroke or massive coronary for a live audience!
WTG Blue Jay — you must haave your Linux up and running!!
Technically, everybody works for “the man”, even those who own their own business. “The man” isn’t always the employer/boss. It also includes clients for some. Without clients or others (suppliers, for one) there is no pay. That covers Boxlock, right? For okobserver, it’s the customers who must be pleased. (Sorry, oko, I’ve forgotten the type of business you and hubby have.) For Bluejay, it’s customers, too. I’m a part of pleasing “customers”, too.
So why don’t we just drop “the man” discussion? It’s really irrelevant.
Wall to wall and tree top tall Chas.
How DID I miss this?
“Then, I will close this company down, move to another
country, and retire.”
SEE YA! Plenty of good folks just itching to take your place.
Snowy Owls live on small mammals; when it gets very cold in the far north, their food supply dwindles. So, they fly towards the south until they reach a place where small mammals abound. This is not the first time Snowy Owls have been seen this far south. A few years ago, one took up residence in a field a few miles south of Oxford, Ks. Many of us birders drove down there just to see one. The owl stayed a couple of weeks. It must have found good pickings.
The WE Blog will be closing down soon.
Hurry up folks, get in your last digs on Global Warming, Churches who support Gays and Abortions and Gay Abortions, Socialism, Higher Taxes, Free Healthcare, etc…
SOS everyday. Day in. Day out.
Archive 1/28/2009, 1/28/2008, and everything in between and you’ll see the same crap, day after day after day….
Thus, even the Eagle is getting sick of itself. Its readers have left. Its advertisers have left. Its It’s boiling in red ink.
Last one out, turn out the lights.
“The WE Blog will be closing down soon”
Wishful thinking? You CAN just leave.
See my comment above. Nature fills an empty niche. Sorry we can’t do much for cons empty future.
Actually no, I’m not.
Why are you so happy, Johnson?? You spew out some of the sickest, sorriest crap on the WE Blog, day after day after day….
janeeyre
Posted January 28, 2009 at 11:06 pm | Permalink
Snowy Owls live on small mammals; when it gets very cold in the far north, their food supply dwindles. So, they fly towards the south until they reach a place where small mammals abound. This is not the first time Snowy Owls have been seen this far south. A few years ago, one took up residence in a field a few miles south of Oxford, Ks. Many of us birders drove down there just to see one. The owl stayed a couple of weeks. It must have found good pickings.
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That would be so neat to actually see one of those magnificent creatures!! How fun!!
News from Alaska –
Sarah Palin is already rehearsing for the talent portion of her upcoming 2012 presidential debate.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/edithzimmerman/bizarre-pageant-talent-y7
Here’s the future of the Republic Party!
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f40ef6d351/obama-reads-bush-s-letter
It’s funny ‘cuz it’s true.
I think we’re beginning to get a glimpse of President Obama’s style; the stuff that impressed people who were looking for a speaker for the 2004 convention, who came on board long before that announcement on the old Illinois statehouse steps….
Politics is, after all, a People Business. And this guy gets people.
This week with the Republic Party’s congressional delegation has been “You’re likable enough, Hillary” moment played on a grand scale. There were moments in the debates when Obama knew he was making McCain want to tell Barack to stop playing on his lawn.
After a week of bleating they’d vote for the Stimulus “…if only you get rid of the condoms!” the House Republic Party congresscritters revealed they were lying.
Tiahrt, Moran, Jenkins? You just got pwned.
Then, they ran like hyenas to drink free Scotch and eat pigs-in-a-blanket in the “Black House.”
Obama is playing the Republic Party like a harp.
crazed quilters
http://www.quiltersofsc.org/artfullbras/artfullbras.htm
“The WE Blog will be closing down soon.”–JimJohnson
Jim, where is this info. coming from? Honest question.
I canceled my print subscription I had maintained for probably 20+ or 30+ years over the Eagle’s biased reporting and Opinion section.
None the less I don’t wish them to go away, in print or online including this sick meeting place called WeBlog.
‘mxyzptlk’, the deranged misfit, is saying it (the Eagle or the WeBlog or both are going away as well), where’s it coming from?
Janeeyre,
You’re a birder? Maybe you could answer question for me. I had so much fun last summer photographing Turkey Vultures east of Wichita. Do you have an idea of when they’ll be back?
Hee hee hee heeeeeee….
Bigotbawks using freeperville as a source.
Again, even after he denied it last time.
Where is fleetie to complain about “you people” needing someone to tell them what to think?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2172761/posts
I’m late for the Lunar New Year, but what the heck…
G?ng x? f? cái