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JIM HANSEN’S/GISS TEMPERATURE TREND REVISED DOWNWARD
Pigs are flying! An email below from Henry Geraedts
I am drawing your attention to a significant change in GISS GHG temperature trend projections published by Jim Hansen’s team last week, and which appears to have gone largely unnoticed other than by Lucia Liljegren on her site “The Blackboard” [ http://www.rankexploits.com.
At the very end of the GISS update, under para #4 in the next to last paragraph, Hansen & Co state that: "From climate models and empirical analyses this GHG forcing translates into a mean warming rate of 0.15C per decade". Given that Jim Hansen is one of the leading and vocal proponents of the AGW/ACC hypothesis, that the GISS temperature data series has yet again come close scrutiny recently [Lubos Motl, et. al] and that GISS temperature data is increasingly at odds with satellite data [ref: today's posting on that subject at http://www.wattsupwiththat.com ] this revision is singularly noteworthy: the revised GISS GHG driven temperature trend is a whopping 25% lower than the IPCC’s [95% certain] “gold standard” of 0.20C per decade.
The village of Crawford Texas is feeling great relief following the return of it’s official Village Idiot who has been missing and god knows where for over eight years! The sheriff said he hopes that Georgie will be able to provide some clues to his disappearance and subsequent events when he is interviewed later today, but given his speech and cognitive difficulties, that may prove impossible. At least he has been returned, and seems unhurt despite his long absence and apparent lack of needed psychiatric medication, and his dog is glad to see him. Crawford Celebrates!
Watch this space.. the work begins today..
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing_room/executive_orders/
A new era of responsibility
Who is the new Prez talking about? It can’t be me. I have always paid my taxes,
a good chunk of my income 28% Fed, roughly 6% state and local. I pay the same
sales tax on everything everyone else does. Additionally I give my tithe of 10% to charitable organizations. I volunteer in my local civic organizations and served a stint or two in local government. I gave a good chunk of my life serving in the nations armed forces. I married the mother of my children and provided the support and nuturing for them to attend college and grow up to be contributing responsible adults. I never took welfare even when as a young father I could have. I’ve never been arrested nor served time in prison and am a law-abiding citizen. In short, I am one of the 50% of Americans contributing of my hard work to the federal trough.
So who is Obama talking to? Whom does he want to be more responsible? It certainly is not this AMERICAN.
“American_Way” whines –
“A new era of responsibility
Who is the new Prez talking about? It can’t be me.”
Yeah. It can’t possibly be you.
You’re perfect and your life is without flaw.
But Shrub was certainly squirming when Obama said we, as a nation, have to toss aside childish things.
Go back to your post and count how many times you typed “I.”
Most people get out of the “Me. Me. Me.” mode around the time they’re potty trained. You have some catching up to do.
Quit patting yourself on the back for doing the things that are just expected of you, AM.
Time for all you Libs who screamed about “loss of constitutional freedoms” under the Bush admin. to call up your Senators and Congresscritters to oppose the nomination of Eric Holder to office of the U.S. Attorney General.
…that is if you really give a schitte about “Constitutional Freedoms”.
So tell us why we should do that, Heck.
Mary….Amway’s post seems to demonstrate responsibility–and you whine about expectations?
Obviously you missed his point in your rush to post a partisan hate message. Amway’s message points out that the people who Obama is talking about will never get the message.
“So who is Obama talking to? Whom does he want to be more responsible?”
You must have slept through the speech, he answered you question at the start. It is the 44th American.
“Forty-four Americans have now taken the presidential oath.”
“So tell us why we should do that, Heck.”
He believes “warrantless wiretaps” are legal, for one.
Mary
“So tell us why we should do that, Heck.”
If you knew anything about Eric Holder you wouldn’t have to ask that question. Go study up. There’s been plenty of information posted here regarding his onerous record.
I don’t have time..gotta go to work. ‘Bye
“Mary….Amway’s post seems to demonstrate responsibility–and you whine about expectations?”
One more response….Why do you say I’m “whining”? I just think it’s a little narcissistic to brag about everything that you do that is only expected of you. That’s what children do, not adults.
Of course men tend to be that way…I guess I see it different because I’m a woman and doing what I’m supposed to be doing just isn’t a big deal to me.
Gotta go.
Amen Raptor. Amen.
No Mary wants to talk about me – and not the subject of responsibility in America.
Monkeyhawk plainly just doesn’t get it.
you all should not be critizing what amway posted. it is the way it should be and it is what obama also asked of you. do you have guilty feelings that you can’t stand up to the bar?
Mary –
Holder should NOT be AG. His lack of respect for the constitution, in particular the 2nd and 6th amendments; his participation in the Clinton play-for-pay pardonfest, among other things, make him unacceptable.
I understand that I will disagree with many in the new administration, and I can live with that. I simply expect them to abide by the Constitution. And despite Obama’s words, it is in fact the same Constitution, whether in Chicago or Cheyanne.
GMC70,
LOL, the 2nd Amendment?
Oh my, you think the liberals care about that? They have their own “collective right of the state” understanding for that amendment.
You think they care?
Mary would just as soon have all our guns actually taken by the government if she could.
Eric Holder dropped the ball concerning the Rich Pardon that Clinton requested. It’s not a deal killer. But anything the radical hold outs can do to disrupt our new President’s work is being pursued.
Hell, they are even wasting 3 hours of Congress’s time to poke at Hillary Clinton with a stick today.
Nat.. no one gives a gawddam about your silly guns.. it’s your fixation on them that should worry you…
Hell, they are even wasting 3 hours of Congress’s time to poke at Hillary Clinton with a stick today.
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I bet she squeals like a pig!
No, Mrs Clinton will respond like the professional public servant she is. And she will be confirmed and 3 hours of work time to fix out nation’s problems will have been wasted for old style obstructionism.
david b . and how many hours has your reid and pelosi spent obstructing/wasting?
DavidB,
If no one cares about my guns, then why is it that the Democrats are always trying to ban them?
Why is it that the Democrats, no matter where they come into power, are always trying to pass more gun control and take away our ability to buy many types of guns?
You can keep telling me that no one cares, but it is a lie.
Mary, it’s alright to come down off of the cross. Am_Way, I see your point and agree with it. Collectively, as conscientious, working adults (men and women) that have been providing and guiding our families, haven’t we shown responsibility? For those that “heard” the message, we will continue to do our part in order to provide the best life for our own and our fellow citizens of the world. However, the gist of Am_Way’s post is that for those of us that “heard” the message, Mr. Obama was preaching to the choir.
“A new era of responsibility” As Americans, those of us that have been doing our part; must continue to do so and those that have not been doing their part must start. Another great president once said “Ask not, what your country can do for you but rather, ask what you can do for your country.”
There have always been three classes of people – those that make things happen – those that watch what’s happening – those that wonder what happened. It’s time to get off of the sideline and make things happen. It is time that selfishness and self-centeredness were abolished. It is time that we not only recite the golden rule but we must embody the rule.
We as Americans should not blame one man for the current situation of our lives nor can we place all of our hope in one man with the expectation of improving our lives. We as Americans and as responsible adults, must be accountable for our life. It will be what you make of it.
I think that one of the inspirations for Mr. Obama’s speech may have been that the finger pointing must stop, take responsibility for yourself and don’t expect a hand up, give a hand up. Accept the responsibility that we as American citizens once embraced – ask not, what’s in it for me? – ask, what can I do to help? Seek to make a positive difference in this world.
In relationship to the “big picture” we only have a short time here. What will you leave behind? How will people remember you? Yesterday is history; tomorrow is a mystery; today is a gift, that’s why it called the present. Make the most of what you have. Make a difference.
Sen. Cornyn, who is holding up the nomination and wasting the nation’s time, is in the pocket of the Oil and Gas Industry…
A real pig.. this man…
In 2008, Senator Cornyn received $10,000 from Exelon, an energy company that is currently seeking approval to build a nuclear power plant just south of Victoria, Texas. Cornyn has been described by Jim Jubak of MSN Money as one of “Big Oil’s ten favorite members of Congress,” as he has received more money from the oil and gas industry than all but six other members of Congress.
In 2005, Cornyn voted against including oil and gas smokestacks in mercury regulations.
In September 2005, during the Supreme Court hearings for Roberts, Cornyn’s staff passed out bingo cards to reporters. He asked them to stamp their card every time a Democrat on the Judiciary Committee used terms such as “far right” or “extremist”.
He voted against implementing the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Report and restoring $565 million for states’ and ports’ first responders. He also voted against restricting businesses with ties to terrorism. He voted against preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. Cornyn was one of only 22 Senators to vote against the Post-9/11 GI Bill that expands the educational benefits for soldiers who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cornyn
david b.i guess i missed your answer. figures
DavidB
Posted January 21, 2009 at 8:48 am | Permalink
Sen. Cornyn, who is holding up the nomination and wasting the nation’s time, is in the pocket of the Oil and Gas Industry…
A real pig.. this man…
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DavidB models the new Obama model of civility?
Awesome quote CJM, worth repeating:
There have always been three classes of people – those that make things happen – those that watch what’s happening – those that wonder what happened.
That’s going on my wall next to my “small minds”…. quote.
Nat.. no one gives a gawddam about your silly guns..
So which amendments of our Constitution are important to protect DavidB? Just the ones important to you?
Maybe that’s what Obama meant when he said, It is time for a new Declaration of Independence. The last one, and our Bill of Rights don’t work for him.
A new era of responsibility
Perhaps we have a hint at what the Prez means by one of the proposals for Health Care. That is, if your company offers a program, enrollment will be mandatory. That’s taking some responsibility I’d think.
Davidb
Marc Rich pardon.
FALN terrorists pardon.
Pardons of a couple of Weather Underground bombers.(terrorists)
Internet censorship.
Elian Gonzales kidnapping.
Supression of evidence in Waco investigation.
Prevented the prosecution of Lon Horiuchi for the murder of Vicki Weaver.
and on and on….
“What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them, that the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long no longer apply.”
Amen.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/20/AR2009012003968.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Davidb
… and as another poster pointed out he supports the warrant-less wiretaps of terrorists that so many lefties around here had their panties in a knot over.
Double standards and hypocrisy around here?
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:46 pm | Permalink
donndublin,
How many times has Richard Lindzen submitted (and withdrawn) his Iris theory?
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I don’t know cosMo but my question is why. Could it be that the reason is because they were censored.
How many times has the computer model predictions (opinions) been wrong?
So many interrogations…
Hillary will be confirmed after 3 hours of wasted Congressional time during a period of national troubles..
Nat will keep fondling his precious guns as long as he wants…
And this page will begin to fill today:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing_room/executive_orders/
From the WhiteHouse.Gov Agenda..
Reducing Health Risks Due to Mercury Pollution: More than five million women of childbearing age have high levels of toxic mercury in their blood and more than 630,000 newborns are born every year at risk. The EPA estimates that every year, more than one child in six could be at risk for developmental disorders because of mercury exposure in the mother’s womb. Since the primary sources of mercury in fish are power plant emissions that contaminate our water, regulation of utility emissions is essential to protecting the health of our children. In the Senate, President Obama introduced two pieces of legislation to significantly reduce the amount of mercury that is deposited in oceans, lakes, and rivers, which in turn would reduce the amount of mercury in fish.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/
In 2005, Cornyn voted against including oil and gas smokestacks in mercury regulations.
It matters… he chose pollution over protecting children, it seems..
DavidB,
Well, I see you waste no time with the “it’s for the children” tactic.
LOL
I think we should protect the 2nd Amendment and the individual right to keep and bear arms.
We could start by allowing concealed carry in schools.
It is for the children!
You don’t support concealed carry in schools?
I guess you want the children to die then.
I simply expect them to abide by the Constitution.
How very ironic after supporting a President who cared nothing for the Constitution.
“Nathaniel” convinces me –
“…support concealed carry in schools.”
I believe every kindergartner should pack heat!
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:01 pm | Permalink
donndublin posted January 20, 2009 at 6:40 pm
. . .
“The first opinion was . . .
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Science is not based on “opinions”.
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Duh… the opinion wasn’t about science. It was about the politics of the AGW alarmists. Since you are not a scientist, I understand why you don’t know the difference and since you are a propagandist it is obvious why you continue to distort the truth.
Is history repetitious???
http://law.jrank.org/pages/8798/New-Deal.html
LOL guns in schools.. and expose the ids to all that lead???
Why don’t you call a school principal or two and some college deans and the WSU police and ask their opinions on the subjects? I would defer to their consensus…
We have an excellent program of police officers in schools.. I think this is enough firepower for K-12.
I like how Nathan and JimJohn want to take their handguns to a bar.
Yup. Alcohol and firearms, dang it all if that doesn’t sound like a good time had by all.
I think Deadeye Dick Cheney showed us how much fun that combination was when he shot his pal in the face with a 12 gauge.
CapnAmerica,
Just because I am in a bar, doesn’t mean I am drinking or unable to handle my firearm properly.
Hey, remember those shotugns you were talking about being carried by Police?
Do you support lifting the LEO restrictions on certain types of shotguns so we can own them too?
If only they’d have been target shooting the pistols.
Then his pal would have been dead.
What a laugh riot that would have been!
Good times. Good times.
DavidB,
School principals? What makes them any kind of an expert in self defense? Why would I talk to them about carrying concealed in a school?
Why don’t you care about the childrens safety?
Diet cola is my preferred drink when I go to a bar. I don’t imbibe alcoholic beverages.
Of course, I don’t carry a firearm either.
Although, I have been know to whip out my blood testing glucose kit, which makes some squeamish. :)
I worked through school working at a bar…allowing guns in bars? You have got to be kidding? Good luck finding a bar owner who would allow that in his/her club.
Did I read that wrong?
• Regular
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:04 pm | Permalink
Science is not based on blogs either,like the dozens you post here.
You have yet to post one peer reviewed paper here.
Not once.
• Regular
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:21 pm | Permalink
cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:18 pm | Permalink
Poor Regular is lonely. . . and he wants some soup.
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This is the best answer cosmos has to offer, because he is not a scientist.
• cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:23 pm | Permalink
“Poor Regular is lonely. . . and he wants some soup.”
That’s the response Regular deserves, because he is a troll.
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Thanks cosMo for proving my point about how the AGW alarmists are intolerant of the opposing views of other scientists who disagree with the alarmist’s OPINIONS.
Okay, let’s ask the Chief of Police about concealed carry in schools…
DavosRancheros,
Just about every bar I have been to I can carry concealed in.
It has been that way for a couple of years here now. No problems.
DavidB,
Why would we ask him?
Is it possible that when some are having great fun in a bar others would need their main squeeze ‘gun,’ in order to relax and have the same amount of fun? From what I read here a few hold their gun in as high a regard as most of us hold people we care for.
I’m glad there’s a sign out front telling us where those who love their guns so much they don’t want to be without them can go. Proper labeling lets us all go where we choose.
Really? The bars I go to have big’ole signs in front stating it is a no no. If this were an issue back in the day I would quit any club whom allowed guns. I have broke up one too many fights in my day to even contimplate drunks with guns.
All my friends that own taverns seem to agree.
DavosRancheros,
The people who carry concealed are of the temperment not to get drunk and fight in a bar.
I am not sure what bars you go to, but I can’t think of one here in Wichita where I can’t carry concealed.
And as I said, no problems.
As a matter of fact, I think you would be very hard pressed to find any incident in the Nation where someone who was carrying concealed legally ever did something with his gun in a bar.
Linda,
I think you are close, but a little off.
Because I care for others, my family, and friends I carry concealed. So I can protect them from anyone who would want to do them harm.
“Why would we ask him,” he asks blinking his eyes like he hasn’t a clue…
LOL… Go stroke your cleaning rod in and out vigorously . . . . .
See? There’s a great reason to look for those signs which tell us where we can go without need of protection! All is well as long as we have proper labeling.
Linda,
If you are not carrying concealed, you can go anywhere you want to without protection.
If you have not noticed, just about every place in Wichita doesn’t have signs. The last place I went to which didn’t allow it was PetSmart.
Just about any other place allows it.
You must live a very restricted life if you only go places which are posted against concealed carry.
I carry Copenhagen to the bar. You pi$$ me off, I’ll spit in your farkin’ eye….B*tch!
LOL… He has the conversation switched to his precious firearms.. which are not a current topic of debate here on Day One of the Obama Administration…
I will spit out the bait…
“Nathaniel’s” gun fetish gets another rehashing on WE Blog.
What? Is it Wednesday already?
No.. the topic will switch to something relevant to reality now…
“Although, I have been know to whip out my blood testing glucose kit, which makes some squeamish. :)”
I thought you were going to say blood alcohol testing kit. That WOULD make me squeamish!
DavidB,
Who died and made you king? This is the open thread.
Would you say the same about GW AGW posting today?
You remind me a lot of another poster here, Chas.. in one of his NIC’s.
Same attitude.
DAY TWO:
Has BlueJay been given health care by the Obama yet?
“Regular” shares –
“I have been know to whip out…”
Uh-oh.
“…my blood testing glucose kit, “
Whew!
“…which makes some squeamish.”
Only because you think it’ll help you pick up girls.
DAY TWO:
How is your life better because of Obama?
89-year-old Pete Seeger –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg0wiOHc9tI&feature=bz302
Life is better for me because I no longer wonder what else bush can ruin!
“Nathaniel
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:45 am | Permalink
DAY TWO:
Has BlueJay been given health care by the Obama yet?”
No Nathan. I think that’s what Obama meant by a “New era of responsibility”.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-121-3/#comment-506830
Day One – My life is better today (Part One) because the process to end the human rights outrage known as GitMo has begun…
GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba — The judge in the Sept. 11 war crimes case at Guantanamo has agreed to President Barack Obama’s request to suspend the case pending a 120-day review.”
But five men charged in the Sept. 11 attacks want their trial to continue, hoping for a death sentence that could bring them martyrdom.
“We should continue so we don’t go backward, we go forward,” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the attacks told the judge in their case.
Man oh man, the right is in a full-on, pedal to the metal whine today.
And it isn’t even a full moon. Must be a nasty hangover from watching our guy become president.
Dennis
So, protecting the Children from Porn is NOT a Reasonable Restriction of the 1st Amendment.
But just wait and see how many “Reasonable Restrictions” Obama places on the 2nd Amendment.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,481131,00.html
Supreme Court Kills Internet Pornography Law Wednesday, January 21, 2009
WASHINGTON — The government lost its final attempt Wednesday to revive a federal law intended to protect children from sexual material and other objectionable content on the Internet.
The Supreme Court said it won’t consider reviving the Child Online Protection Act, which lower federal courts struck down as unconstitutional.
The law has been embroiled in court challenges since it passed in 1998 and never took effect. It would have barred Web sites from making harmful content available to minors over the Internet.
DavidB
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:08 am | Permalink
Day One – My life is better today (Part One) because the process to end the human rights outrage known as GitMo has begun…
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So your in Gitmo?
“protect children from …objectionable content on the Internet”
…Anything relating to either Bush or Reagan???
Remember when ‘Tom Sawyer’ was banned because it was too racist? Remember when ‘Tom Sawyer’ was banned because it wasn’t racist ENOUGH!!!!?
I appoint myself sole judge on what’s objectionable or not.
JJ, gotta admit I can see your exception to David’s post. I agree it’d stand better by dropping ” GitMo has begun” and inserting “America”.
AmWay & CJM,
You are way off target.
Obama was talking to working people, telling them to be more responsible by paying more taxes (patriotic!) so that non-working people get more welfare, tax credits, free healthcare, and unearned income credits.
The non-working people all understood the message.
Guess the Great Communicator needs to be MORE SPECIFIC and CLEAR by providing SOME DETAIL, when he opens his mouth.
Although, he’s limited to speaking at the 8th grade level, so providing too much detail would confuse his base.
“DavidB
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink
LOL… He has the conversation switched to his precious firearms.. which are not a current topic of debate here on Day One of the Obama Administration…”
Sorry DavidB, but you are not correct on that. Gun Control is a current topic already in the new congress, the Brady signator Congress people, and Obama.
Relevant and current:
H.R.442
Title: To provide an amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register certain firearms in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rehberg, Denny [MT] (introduced 1/9/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 1/9/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
January 14, 2009
H.R. 45
If Illinois Democrat Bobby Rush has his way, gun owners in America will be required to submit to the federal government a photo, thumb print and mental heath records. Rush’s proposed bill H.R. 45, also known as “Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009,” will make it illegal to possess a “qualifying firearm,” specifically any firearm that takes an ammunition clip, without a license.
Brady Strategy (for Obama’s Gun Control) now that their new congressmen and President are in office(and before)
Time Frame:
“As soon as President-elect Obama is inaugurated and the 111th Congress is sworn in, the Brady Campaign will be making an all-out push to advance our lifesaving legislative agenda… But that doesn’t mean we are waiting until Inauguration Day.”
Preparations:
“We are already reaching out to Obama’s transition team, as well as our allies in Congress” on numerous fronts:
– A blueprint for regulatory action
– Roll back Bush’s policies that made our “streets into shooting galleries”
– Lists of appointments to Justice Dept., BATFE and federal courts
– Provide funding to increase the number of people in the NICS Index
Two announced regulatory changes:
– “Strengthen” ATF’s authority to regulate “gun pushers”
– Overturn the recently lifted ban on CCW in National Parks (Brady is calling for a boycott of such parks where ‘dangerous people are free to roam armed’ — without realizing the silliness — anyone legally armed in a park can carry anywhere else in the state, what’s the difference?);
http://www.gunlaws.com/BradyStrategy2009.htm
ghotiphaze
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:25 am | Permalink
“protect children from …objectionable content on the Internet”
…Anything relating to either Bush or Reagan???
Remember when ‘Tom Sawyer’ was banned because it was too racist? Remember when ‘Tom Sawyer’ was banned because it wasn’t racist ENOUGH!!!!?
I appoint myself sole judge on what’s objectionable or not.
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Oh no you don’t. The Government decides everything for us.
They’ll decide what you watch on TV, Radio, Internet, etc…when they pass the Fairness Doctrine.
And they’ll also decide what “Reasonable Restrictions” to place on your 2nd Amendment rights too.
You can’t decide anything on your own. The People Be Too Dumb To Do Dat.
My life is better today because I identify with my country and my nation and we reject torture and we reject violating basic human rights – NOW in deed as well as in word…
“Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.” ~Abraham Lincoln
Whenever I hear anyone arguing for torture and illegal detention……..
American_Way
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:34 am | Permalink
“DavidB
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink
LOL… He has the conversation switched to his precious firearms.. which are not a current topic of debate here on Day One of the Obama Administration…”
Sorry DavidB, but you are not correct on that. Gun Control is a current topic already in the new congress, the Brady signator Congress people, and Obama.
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David’s never been one to let facts get in the way of his opinions.
Damn, David, you sound like you believe rules and morals are for everybody. Aincha hear, they’re just for low-life peons.
“Guess the Great Communicator needs to be MORE SPECIFIC and CLEAR by providing SOME DETAIL, when he opens his mouth.”
Apparently JJ, Obama didn’t communicate that message very well. There are many liberals on this particular blog. I’m surprised none of them even know to what Obama was referring.
“New era of responsibility.”
I mean, if anyone can understand “Obamaneze” I’d think it would be his flock.
I must’ve misunderstood, too, AmWay. I understood him to mean we workin’ folks have to hunker down and pay the way of the indolent rich.
They’ll decide what you watch on TV, Radio, Internet, etc…when they pass the Fairness Doctrine.
Don’t forget they also decide how much water you need to flush your toilet, how much water pressure you can have when taking a shower, and what kind of light bulbs you can have.
Not to mention getting in our bedrooms with those warning tags on the mattress. Heck! Warning tags on just about everything. (I just wish they’d use a little bigger print.)
Governments got to dumb us all down.
Oh…
So no ones lives are “actually” any better, you are just better in an abstract way because of some poicy decisions you agree with.
No health care?
No mortgage payments?
No socialist utopia?
You just “feel” better.
Ah yes, typical liberals and their feelings.
It’s pretty obvious they haven’t a clue what they’re doing–look at the mess they put us in. Whereas the poor aren’t given to oportunity to better themselves since their jobs have been downsized to hire the army of over-paid sycophants to figure why the companies are losing money and validate the inflated salaries of the incompetent CEOs.
pay the way of the indolent rich.
See? Ghotiphaze heard something even different!?!
Although that would be a neat trick. Not sure how you are going to pay for anything for the small population (minority) or rich people. What can’t they buy they need YOUR money for?
“Not to mention getting in our bedrooms with those warning tags on the mattress”
psst…that’s just before sale. You can safely remove those tags if they bother you enough to warrant taking the scissors to your bed. Less’n ya sleep wi’ yo’ bowie knife handy.
DAY ONE: Hit the ground running.
The president’s first calls to foreign leaders were directed toward the Middle East.
Mr. Obama spoke by telephone to President Mubarak of Egypt, Prime Minister Olmert of Israel, King Abdullah of Jordan, and President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority. Few details of the calls were provided, but the White House announced them as a way to show the president’s engagement in the conflict.
1:15PM-2:15PM President Obama Addresses Staff and Cabinet Secretaries
3:15PM-3:45PM President Obama Meets with Economic Advisors
4:15PM-5:15PM President Obama Meets with Iraq Military Commanders
He will sign a few executive orders, including one that restricts any White House employee from lobbying the Obama administration upon leaving office.
Not bad after having to attend a parade and 10 parties yesterday!!!!!
Same thing with guns and liberals.
Those black guns are scary, they can shoot fast, they look like military weapons…
Lets ban them!
Then we can all “feel” better.
validate the inflated salaries of the incompetent CEOs.
Youall liberals go ahead and keep pi$$ing in the CEO’s Wheaties. Is it any wonder they are shutting down your jobs?
I agree, AMWay. With all that money why do they need to keep begging for more???
Like I’ve said before, it’s all for bragging rights. They don’t need the money, they just need the ability to say, “I’m better’n you–nyaa, nyaa”.
Then we can all “feel” better.
Won’t do a darn thing to lower the gun deaths or armed robberies, but they will feel all warm and fuzzy. Sorta like sheep!
The RESPONSIBLE thing to do, is NOT TO PAY YOUR TAXES!
But he said he was Sorry! (He certainly is.)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123254915519002447.html#printMode
JANUARY 21, 2009, 12:30 P.M. ET
Geithner Apologizes Over Taxes
Treasury Nominee Supports Bold Government Action to Stimulate EconomyArticle
A WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE NEWS ROUNDUP
U.S. Treasury Secretary nominee Timothy Geithner apologized Wednesday to members of the Senate Finance Committee for tax errors he committed earlier this decade that came to light during his nomination process.
Mr. Geithner called the mistakes “careless” and “avoidable.”
Timothy Geithner testifies before the Senate Finance Committee on his nomination to be Treasury Secretary.
He told the panel he was sorry that his past transgressions were now an issue in his confirmation at a time of deepening economic crisis. He urged Congress to act quickly and forcefully to deal with the crisis. A top administration priority is to foster economic recovery and “get credit flowing again,” Mr. Geithner testified.
As to his failure to pay the payroll taxes from 2001 to 2004 while he worked for the International Monetary Fund, Mr. Geithner said the errors were unintentional. “I should have been more careful,” he said.
Mr. Geithner said he had used the tax-preparation software Turbo Tax for his returns, though he reiterated that any errors were his own responsibility.
Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the senior Republican on the panel, noted that as Treasury secretary, Mr. Geithner would be in charge of the Internal Revenue Service. He suggested the danger of “sweeping the under the rug” Mr. Geithner’s tax problems in a rush to get him confirmed.
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After the Internal Revenue Service audited him in 2006 and discovered the payroll-tax errors, Mr. Geithner corrected them for 2003 and 2004.
Only after Mr. Obama picked him last fall to be Treasury secretary did Mr. Geithner pay the Social Security and Medicare tax he owed for 2001 and 2002. In private conversations last week, Mr. Geithner told members of Congress that he should have paid his 2001 and 2002 payroll taxes sooner, according to lawmakers and their aides. He also said accountants failed to catch the error.
White guns scare me Nate. Snow’s a-comin’ and it muffles footsteps.
“to say, “I’m better’n you–nyaa, nyaa”.”
Bbbbbut they can’t now, right? You got Obama..
You won! They got the bragging rights, now leave my CEO alone!
Only after Mr. Obama picked him last fall to be Treasury secretary did Mr. Geithner pay the Social Security and Medicare tax he owed for 2001 and 2002. In private conversations last week, Mr. Geithner told members of Congress that he should have paid his 2001 and 2002 payroll taxes sooner, according to lawmakers and their aides.
Yeah JJ, I posted that before. The libs don’t care about the quality or integrity of their own appointees. Who was it got slammed dunked for hiring an illegal alien house cleaner under Bush?
First: Licensing & Registration.
Next: Confiscation
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:2:./temp/~bdB5Wb:@@@D&summ2=m&|/bss/111search.html|
H.R.45
Title: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
quality or integrity of their own appointees
Yep, you have to admit, Geithner is either:
A. Too stupid to do his own taxes
B. A crook who got caught
Which is it?
If Geithner was a Republican nominee, he’d have been strung up by his balls by now.
Hmmmmm, no workers, no products, no need for CEO’s.
This is where we’re headed (and it’s pretty danged cool).
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-na-airline-felonies20-2009jan20,0,2927070,full.story
Nathaniel
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:45 am | Permalink
Oh…
So no ones lives are “actually” any better, you are just better in an abstract way because of some poicy decisions you agree with.
No health care?
No mortgage payments?
No socialist utopia?
You just “feel” better.
Ah yes, typical liberals and their feelings.
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He’d get the same effect if someone just pulled his finger.
Nate and his guns are like trying to treat lupus with calamine lotion.
Unemployment is up to what today? Remember that doesn’t count the 10% population in prison–they’re unemployed, too.
Nate is so concerned about the evil baddies he has to have his hawgleg handy (but refuses to display it to circumvent having to use it), but he’ll staunchily defend those who have no qualms about putting people in the position where he gets the chance to use his concealed weapon.
now leave my CEO alone!
He’s still there, takin’ my money, not telling me where it’s going, and begging for more.
licensing for purchasers of certain firearms
Must have a license to purchase a gun.
What a joke and a paper drill that will be. All it will do is increase the paperwork.
It’s like the paperwork NOW required. You answer a bunch of stupid questions. Questions that only law-abiding citizens will answer honestly:
1. Are you a convict?
2. Are you pending legal action?
3. Do you beat your wife (restraining order)?
4. Are you nuts (Daffy Ducks famous line)?
5. Do you have trouble finding your way home from school at night?
Nothing prevents you from checking the blocks incorrectly (it’s like a hanging chad anyway). Democrats have already proven they cannot fill out a ballot correctly, and now you want to ask them thar hard questions?!??
(o.k., I made up question 5)
DavidB
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:48 am | Permalink
DAY ONE: Hit the ground running.
The president’s first calls to foreign leaders were directed toward the Middle East.
Mr. Obama spoke by telephone to President Mubarak of Egypt, Prime Minister Olmert of Israel, King Abdullah of Jordan, and President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority. Few details of the calls were provided, but the White House announced them as a way to show the president’s engagement in the conflict.
1:15PM-2:15PM President Obama Addresses Staff and Cabinet Secretaries
3:15PM-3:45PM President Obama Meets with Economic Advisors
4:15PM-5:15PM President Obama Meets with Iraq Military Commanders
He will sign a few executive orders, including one that restricts any White House employee from lobbying the Obama administration upon leaving office.
Not bad after having to attend a parade and 10 parties yesterday!!!!!
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Uh huh. I see the agenda. What did he actually DO? (Besides blow hot air)
Crap, Obama farts and y’all put that on the list of Accomplishments for him.
Typical liberals… wanting their representatives to not engage in illegal and unconstitutional actions nor human rights abuses and war crimes…
My sensitive feelings go way back.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:My_Lai_massacre.jpg
yep, and babies, too…
How did the President put it:
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our founding fathers … our found fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience’s sake.
… we the people have remained faithful to the ideals of our forebears, and true to our founding documents.
” Remember that doesn’t count the 10% population in prison–they’re unemployed, too.”
And that matters how………………………?
Hmmmmm, no workers, no products, no need for CEO’s
The CEOs are still there. they’ve just invested their money into 3rd world nations so they can pay workers $3 a day to make more money for the enlightened Ceos. Considering it takes those folks $2.95 a day just to house and feed themselves, how long do you think it’d take them to save up for the HDTVs and CDrecorders etc, etc, ad nauseum the CEOs are depending on their money for?
And that matters how………………………?
Read the part about…”no qualms about putting people in the position where he gets the chance to use his concealed weapon”
How many of their ideals do you think the American Patriots, our Founding Fathers followed when they were slicing open the bowels of the British with their bayonets?
Blowing their brains out with a musket?
Gut shootin em with rifles?
Hangin him from a tree?
“As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our founding fathers … our found fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience’s sake.”
The Ideal of Freedom was fought for and paid for with blood and guts. (But a bayonet in the gut isn’t torture!)
There was quite a sacrifice made to their Ideals of treatin folks nicely, in order to attain the higher Ideal of Freedom.
Don’t tell me there were no sacrifices of Ideals for Safety by our Founding Fathers.
I can’t blame him (Geithner), he knows the income tax is a fraud. So why should he pay it? BUT! The POS, is going to be able to tell the rest of us to do it…no, not only tell us but by the use of force, demand that we pay the protection money.
The oligarchy telling us one thing, while they do the other. One set of rules for us and one for them.
I want my country back…and Obama won’t deliver it.
And speaking of your “happy bs parties” that he attended. He plays the fiddle as America burns…what a piece of schitt. What a way to sacrifice and “put some skin into it”.
Obaaama-ites, you all are …ahhh forget it.
There is a famous incident in the Revolutionary War”
” British regulars and German mercenaries were threatened by their own officers with severe punishment if they showed mercy to a surrendering American soldier. Captured Americans were tortured, starved and cruelly maltreated aboard prison ships. ”
Washington decided to behave differently. After capturing 1,000 Hessians in the Battle of Trenton, he ordered that enemy prisoners be treated with the same rights for which our young nation was fighting. In an order covering prisoners taken in the Battle of Princeton, Washington wrote: “Treat them with humanity, and let them have no reason to Complain of our Copying the brutal example of the British Army in their treatment of our unfortunate brethren…. Provide everything necessary for them on the road.”
Adams wrote: “I know of no policy, God is my witness, but this — Piety, Humanity and Honesty are the best Policy. Blasphemy, Cruelty and Villainy have prevailed and may again. But they won’t prevail against America, in this Contest, because I find the more of them are employed, the less they succeed.”
Even British military leaders involved in the atrocities recognized their negative effects on the overall war effort. In 1778, Col. Charles Stuart wrote to his father, the Earl of Bute: “Wherever our armies have marched, wherever they have encamped, every species of barbarity has been executed. We planted an irrevocable hatred wherever we went, which neither time nor measure will be able to eradicate.”
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1217-30.htm
Ok, I better simplify it for ya, AmWay.
I have a job raking in $100k or better posting my resume on Monster, schmoozing the boss telling him what an enlightened leader he is, denigrating the scum-sucking schlubs on the line for not working 16 hour days for free, and filling the rest of the day on 13yearold.com or go out and pull a gun and take target practice on Nate. Nah, 13yearold.com is the choice.
Now I have a two jobs totaling 16 hours on opposite ends of town keeping me at a starving wage or going out and target practice on Nate hoping to get the price of a McBurger. Yeah, I pop a few rounds Nate’s way.
As Bushco (and his followers) recieved no rest so will go Elvis Obaaama.
Pleefer
Posted January 21, 2009 at 12:11 pm | Permalink
I can’t blame him (Geithner), he knows the income tax is a fraud. So why should he pay it? BUT! The POS, is going to be able to tell the rest of us to do it…no, not only tell us but by the use of force, demand that we pay the protection money.
The oligarchy telling us one thing, while they do the other. One set of rules for us and one for them.
I want my country back…and Obama won’t deliver it.
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Obama can siht in the Lib’s soup, and they’d still slurp it.
It’s OK to appoint a Tax Dodger to oversee the IRS, as long as Obama is the one appointing him.
Pleefer
Posted January 21, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink
As Bushco (and his followers) recieved no rest so will go Elvis Obaaama.
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RAPID FIRE!!!!
But it’d be schitt soup, chock full of warm and steamy Change®.
David’s view of war is to have flowers dangling from soldier’s rifles, blue sky and birds chirping in the air.
He*l, Washington treated his own troops so badly at Valley Forge they almost starved to death!
Can’t vouch for David’s views on war but i subscribe to (Couldn’t really say as I’ve heard it ascribed to several sources) view that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. Especially when it’s putting ME in the poor house to pad some bum’s pocket. C’mon, do we really need to pay all those millions of dollars to ship trailer loads of air from one end of Iraq to the other????
Actually, 2500 of Washington’s troops DID starve to death at Valley Forge.
One out of Five troops died while winter camping with no food.
But that’s not torture.
http://americanrevwar.homestead.com/files/VALLEY.HTM
Pleefer
Posted January 21, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
But it’d be schitt soup, chock full of warm and steamy Change®.
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Couldn’t Hope for more then that!
Picture an Obama’s Chunky Schit Soup commercial, with a big football player grinning ear to ear with a siht eating grin saying “Mmmmm Mmmmm Goooood!”
They’d probably offer both Chunky and Smooth versions.
Because of the suffering endured there by the hungry, poorly clothed, and badly housed troops, 2,500 of whom died during the harsh winter
not neccessarily STARVED. Long marches, previous battles, inadequate clothing coupled with shortened rations led to dysentary (sp?), typhus, etc.
In a short time they also had comfortable dwellings and the winter had been highly exagerated, too.
Just another way of importing importance to an emerging country. Like everyone thinking the world flat before Columbus (thanks Washington Irving!), The Liberty bell cracked on Independence Day (during an Abolution rally in the 1830, I think, thanks to one of the Adams boys), and Washington chucked a buck across the Potomac, didn’t tell the lie, and had wooden teeth (but no termites).
“JimJohnson
Posted January 21, 2009 at 12:21 pm | Permalink
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He*l, Washington treated his own troops so badly at Valley Forge they almost starved to death!”
I know many people have great respect and admiration for Washington(General George, that is). However, I have never heard anyone insinuate that he controlled the weather. Wow.
My day of indolent leisure is done for another couple months.
Out.
Twenty-three hours and forty-five minutes after President Obama took office,
“Nathaniel”
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:45 am
“So no ones lives are “actually” any better, you are just better in an abstract way because of some poicy decisions you agree with.”
Yeah, boy.
I’m feel pretty good about the “poicy” decisions so far.
George WMD Bush had eight years to screw things up but you’re unhappy with the repair job less than a day in and ready to treat your new Commander in Chief as if he’d shot your dog.
Now I have a two jobs totaling 16 hours on opposite ends of town
Are you that ignorant? You could be pursuing your GED. Life is what you put into it. It’s not that someone ELSE made you work two jobs to make ends meet.
Do you think everyone working at Dillions bagging groceries should be a millionare?
I’m hearing the sound of jealousy at the success of other hard working Americans coming from you.
Yep. Because there are no CEO’s sitting upstairs with a dart board with photo’s of losers on it.
Get a life dude (or dudett)
This is a NEW day in America!! Enjoy it!! Sit back, and watch what Pres. Obama will do, instead of bi**hing about what he hasnt done in less than 24 hours in office…
All I see here is Obama bashing, and he hasnt even gotten a good start!!
“ghotiphaze
Posted January 21, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Permalink
My day of indolent leisure is done for another couple months.”
That’s too bad ghotiphaze, I hope your other 15 hours working those two jobs to make ends meet come out better for you. Make sure you blame your CEO for you screwing off for the day.
In the new era of responsibility and working for the man to make taxes for Obama.
How selfish of you.
Ooops. How shelfish of you.
“All I see here is Obama bashing, and he hasnt even gotten a good start!!”
You are on the wrong thread Chas. The Weblog does have their Bush Bashing thread above this one.
If you just pretend not know what torture is, there is no point in wasting bandwidth.
“In accordance with this proud American tradition, President Lincoln instituted the first formal code of conduct for the humane treatment of prisoners of war in 1863. Lincoln’s order forbade any form of torture or cruelty, and it became the model for the 1929 Geneva Convention.”
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1217-30.htm
Obituary in London Times
Interesting and sadly rather true.
Today, we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:
* Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
* Why the early bird gets the worm;
* Life isn’t always fair;
* and maybe it was my fault.
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don’t spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge). His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place.
Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding
an unruly student, only worsened his condition. Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.
It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an Aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion!!!!!????
Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses and criminals received better treatment than the ir victims. Common Sense took a beating when you couldn’t defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.
Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.
Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.
He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers:
* I Know My Rights
* I Want It Now
* Someone Else Is To Blame
* I’m A Victim
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.
This is the kind of leadership that has been sorely lacking the last 8 yrs.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090121/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_executive_pay
Gawd, the hot coffee story again!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald’s_Restaurants
On February 27, 1992, Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman from Albuquerque, New Mexico, ordered a 49¢ cup of coffee from the drive-through window of a local McDonald’s restaurant. Liebeck was in the passenger’s seat of her Ford Probe, and her grandson Chris parked the car so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. She placed the coffee cup between her knees and pulled the far side of the lid toward her to remove it. In the process, she spilled the entire cup of coffee on her lap.[7]
Liebeck was wearing cotton sweatpants; they absorbed the coffee and held it against her skin as she sat in the puddle of hot liquid for over 90 seconds, scalding her thighs, buttocks, and groin.[8] Liebeck was taken to the hospital, where it was determined that she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[9] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. Two years of treatment followed.
Applying the principles of comparative negligence, the jury found that McDonald’s was 80% responsible for the incident and Liebeck was 20% at fault.
Other documents obtained from McDonald’s showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald’s coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000
Cupholders back then were about 50 cents each and could be hung from strategic spots in the automobile.
Or if asked, one could get one of those cardboard holders for drinks.
Doesn’t make sense to try to ‘thigh squeeze’ of hot beverage between one’s legs, especially while driving.
Common sense – who knew it could be so useful?
Common sense says that if you weigh scalding hundreds of your customers against a little extra profit, you lower your product temperature below the scalding point…
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DavidB
Posted January 21, 2009 at 1:44 pm | Permalink
Common sense says that if you weigh scalding hundreds of your customers against a little extra profit, you lower your product temperature below the scalding point…
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I look at it from a Safety point of view.
I have to determine the cause and the energy sources.
The energy source, the hot coffee was responsible for the burns, yes indeed and needed to be address. This is a correction that needed to be taken.
However, in my formal safety trained mind, the act of putting a hot beverage between one’s legs while in the act of driving an automobile violates at least two principles of general safety.
(1)One, inappropriate use of dangerous materials in an inappropriate manner (held between the legs)
(2)Attempting to drive while legs or arms are impaired or other wise pre-occupied with another task.
I would have added the recommendation if I was asked, that each time coffee is served or another hot beverage, “Do you want a cup holder?”
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Posted January 21, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink
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No doubt you were attempting to use the English language again!
(shakes head)
Now I have a two jobs totaling 16 hours on opposite ends of town
Just an in and out. Geesh, AmWay, it’s a hypothetical. I have a degree and was 1/2 way through a masters when I dropped out. I’m not the person making the 100K plus netting 13yearold.com either. DUH!
I’m sure all the aircraft workers pounding the pavement are all illiterate slobs, too. Duh, again. Not everyone in a plush job is intelligent, and not everyone digging ditches is a moron. Nearly every job is aquired through luck and necessities. I’m doing fine, could do better but my life doesn’t allow it right now. And like the guy said, of all the 8th graders in 1979, there was only one who had access to a minicomputer–Bill Gates.
The presidential oath of office should be re-administered to Barack Obama because of his flub during Tuesday’s swearing-in ceremony, legal experts say.
Because of a mistake by Chief Justice John Roberts, Obama transposed one of the words in the oath. He should have said he will “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States,” but instead repeated Roberts’ cue and said he will “execute the Office of President of the United States faithfully.”
Josh White of the Washington Post noted: “The presidential oath of office is required of a new president before he can execute his power, and the Constitution is clear that its 35 words must be spoken exactly.”
Jonathan Turley, a professor of constitutional law at George Washington University, told the Post: “He should probably go ahead and take the oath again. If he doesn’t, there are going to be people who for the next four years are going to argue that he didn’t meet the constitutional standard.”
And Charles Cooper, head of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel under President Ronald Reagan, said an incorrect recitation of the oath should be fixed and added that he would be surprised if the oath had not already been re-administered.
According to the Post, two previous presidents — Calvin Coolidge and Chester A. Arthur — repeated the oath in private because of similar issues.
Boston University’s Jack Beermann told Carolyn Lochhead at the San Francisco Chronicle that although it is unlikely to be challenged in court, just to play it safe, President Obama should do it again.
“It would take him 30 seconds, he can do it in private, it’s not a big deal, and he ought to do it just to be safe,” Berman said. “It’s an open question whether he’s president until he takes the proper oath.”
Source: Newsmax
okobserver,
Another woman had burns similar to Liebeck’s, when a McDonald’s employee spilled coffee on her lap at the drive-thru window.
okobserver, what would your reaction be if you had 3rd-degree (full-thickness) burns on 6 percent of your “lap” area?
(Your hand covers an area roughly = to about one percent of your total skin area).
You also have permanent scarring on another 10 percent of your body due to skin grafts.
(One leg = about 9 percent of your skin.)
About two years of very painful physical therapy.
And you have to wear Depends for the rest of your life.
Would you say something like?
‘No big deal’, and ‘I wouldn’t care if happened to other people, like my grandkids.’
I propose we start lowering all City, County and State employee salaries by 1% a month for the next 12 months. When the Government employees suffer as my family suffers, they may watch our tax dollars closer.
No doubt you were attempting to use the English language again!
(shakes head)
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And poorly.
Moderate, we need to take out all of the air conditioners in EACH and EVERY govt. owned vehicle as well. That’ll save a little extra fuel costs.
ON fuel costs.
Presidential vehicles included.
(Cosmo, surely you’ll agree with that won’t you?)
We ALL have to put a little skin into this.
Pleefer
Posted January 21, 2009 at 2:23 pm | Permalink
We ALL have to put a little skin into this.
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I choose shirts.
On a lighter note, 55 years ago today:
http://navytv.org/media.cfm?c=133&m=478&s=52&
Thanks Hank I forwarded this to my son. I’m sure it will bring back some memories for him. Interesting to see.
okobserver,
You’d also be almost immobile for a couple of months — so you’d need someone to do bedpan duty, laundry, cook, etc for you during that time.
Okie, DFTT
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HLP
Posted January 21, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
On a lighter note, 55 years ago today:
http://navytv.org/media.cfm?c=133&m=478&s=52&
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Oh yeah, the Nautilus. Been a long time since I’ve heard that name, was still in school when they talked about it.
The scene from the movie opens to Grautin, CT – a sub base.
My first visit to a Navy base, was in full uniform and the Marine guards, drew their weapons on me, because they hadn’t seen an Air Force uniform before. :)
Actually, I think it was just standard practice for anyone not having a base sticker on their automobile (was driving a rented car.)
Was there to ‘borrow’ their hypobaric chamber to do some ’stuff.’
Yesterday marked the first presidential inauguration which I watched on television. In years gone by, my working hours precluded it. Until this election, apathy (my apathy) pervaded it.
But I watched President Obama’s solemnities from morning til night, and it wasn’t what I expected.
In fact, it was something rather extraordinary.
On November 4, ‘08, I voted in my second consecutive presidential election. As a younger woman, I didn’t believe my vote could count. My disdain for politicians probably didn’t help matters, either.
I voted as my conscience dictated. Not even a prominent priest from my former church, whose dour proclamation that “God would not hear the prayers of certain voters” prevented my all-grown-up decision. I voted for the candidate whom I believed would be most beneficial for the nation.
And that evening (11/4/08), something rather unexpected happened. I observed something I did not expect to see. I felt emotions my hardened heart had ignored for far too long. I have something to say today.
And I have a debt to pay.
Like many children of the 1960s, I had a deep and pervasive hatred for racism. Hays, KS was not exactly a hotbed of racial diversity – indeed, I neither saw nor associated with African-Americans whatsoever. I did not observe racism, because there were no diverse races to be seen within miles of my homeland. Not then.
My innocence was lost in the first months of 1977, when Alex Haley’s “Roots” was presented on television. That miniseries was shattering – the stark, sadistic realities of slavery and its attendant atrocities were portrayed authentically. And unsparingly. And I hated racism even more. Never would certain words exude from my throat, I congratulated myself confidently.
Fast-forward to the year 2006. By then, I had experienced reverse racism – both on the job and in the culture at large. I had seen it often enough to become disenchanted and resentful. And by October 3, 1995, the dismissal of the lives of Ronald Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson by too many people and too many delirious throngs at Howard University had hardened me even further.
On that August evening in 2006, I narrowly escaped physical violence from a black woman. After attacking three other individuals – including kicking in the head a Caucasian individual who already had a head injury – I angrily upbraided her. She moved to attack me – but was not successful. She did not escape the epithet that exuded from my throat, however. In the heat of the moment, it slipped out effortlessly.
Moments later, I was remorseful. I apologized to everyone within earshot. One man balefully informed me that I didn’t need to apologize, because “he felt the same way.” At that moment, the import of my actions hit home: I had not only given way to hatred – I had buttressed someone else’s ignorance.
That was the first – and the last – time I have uttered that word. And I hope I never repeat myself in this lifetime.
Observing the galvanizing effect our new President has enacted on so many…..seeing the happiness and relief in those faces….and the distinct absence of a double-murdering NFL has-been…..all these things have enabled me to embrace the moment for its bountiful resonance.
And I’m glad of it, because I have not been immune to anger and resentment.
So many aspects of yesterday’s solemnities packed a powerful and evocative punch:
Michelle Obama providing the Lincoln Bible for her husband’s swearing-in……..
The joy, happiness and radiance on the faces of Malia and Sasha Obama, who mercifully do not experience the racial horrors of days gone by….
Rev. Warren’s eloquent prayer, fortunately eschewing homosexual/pedophile equations for a call for God’s guidance……….
The lovely Myrlie Evers, widow of slain civil rights leader Medgar Evers – expressing her happiness at the day’s events and respect for her murdered husband’s arduous works. “Medgar did not die in vain,” she proclaimed with evident emotion. Archival footage of a weeping widow at her husband’s funeral broke my heart, however. It shouldn’t have happened. And it frigging well shouldn’t have taken 30 years to convict Byron De La Beckwith, precedessor to Paul Hill and all-around KKK scumbag.
Am I a racist? No, I do not believe I am. But in a stressful, unguarded moment, I said something I should not have said. But this election has helped heal my heart. And it has brought joy to so many – something neither I nor any white American can fully appreciate.
I never awoke to burning crosses on my lawn. I never truly knew hunger. I never saw signs which separated my race from another’s. Racism did not infect our home, although my maternal grandmother still used the word “coloreds” to designate any non-white entity.
I’m not a huge fan of reverse racism, either. I’ve seen some rather distasteful things since moving from Hays to two rather big Missouri cities in 1985.
I only wish Medgar Evers and Martin Luther King, Jr. could have been alive to see this day. Somehow, I can’t see either of them consigning Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman to the racial tinderbox of 1990s Los Angeles. Both gentlemen worked tirelessly for equality and to respect others – at great cost to themselves.
Much of our new President’s inaugural speech attested to our nation’s anguished past – and spoke of hope for a replenished and enhanced future.
Finally, President Obama has unlocked a part of my heart that I believed was hopelessly inert. For that, he deserves much respect this day.
Noted without comment:
Obama Directs Staff to be Responsive to FOIA Requests
Information president or ex-presidents want to withold must be vetted by third party, Obama says
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/162518-Obama_Directs_Staff_to_be_Responsive_to_FOIA_Requests.php
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5559773.ece
Change® we can look forward to, Change® we can believe in.
Funny thing, I happened to stumble upon a teevee that was on…The Springer show was on. I saw the average Obaaama voter all over it.
At least 40 al Queda terrorists are dead in eastern Algeria from bubonic plague that infected them when they were attempting to prepare the germs for a biological Weapon of Mass Destruction. This terrorist group AQLIM (al-Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb), the largest and most powerful al-Qaeda group outside the Middle East, trains Arab Muslim terrorists to kill U.S. and British troops.
[These ruthless, determined, but perhaps somewhat inept terrorists were not all killed by a few fleas, folks. Don’t believe a cover-up.]
What will Obamanation do about the clear and present danger of WMD in Algeria? Diplomacy? Appeasement?
Still got your plastic sheeting and duct tape?
Rage
Posted January 21, 2009 at 5:10 pm | Permalink
Noted without comment:
Obama Directs Staff to be Responsive to FOIA Requests
Information president or ex-presidents want to withold must be vetted by third party, Obama says
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Obama will regret that decision.
One can have frosted windows on their bathroom windows or have curtains. Those who don’t either want to be seen in true voyeurism fashion or gullible to how information can be exploited.
i guess davidb CAN’t answer my question from this morning
Hick.. do your own research. I am more interested in looking forward, rather than rehashing the past… Of course, you’re right both sides are guilty of foot-dragging.
Let’s reboot this..
looking forward?………kind of like your posts here and the other web blogs today……….got it
Incredible…Ray LaHood is Obama’s nominee for Transportation Secretary. Mr LaHood is vastly more qualified for that post than Mary Peters ever was. Mr LaHood:
Consistently worked in a bi-partisan manner while serving in congress; Is well versed on transportation issues (having served on the
Transportation and Infrastructure committee during the authorization of
TEA21); Has good relations with both organized labor and the business community.
Bubonic plague is still out there in the wild, so someone is jumping the gun in claiming that this is an outbreak from a weapon.
“The disease remains present to this day. In North America, the last large epidemic occurred in Los Angeles in 1925. With the advent of the antibiotic era, bubonic plague has been controlled in the developed world. However, sporadic cases (e.g., 10 to 15 cases each year) still occur in the western United States. In less developed countries (e.g., in Africa, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Brazil) thousands of cases are reported each year.”
http://www.answers.com/topic/bubonic-plague
Where is Obamanation? I never heard of that country. Is it near Algeria?
Oh jeeez, hide under your beds, here come those AlQaeder’s.
What posts of mine? I think you have confused me with someone else… Believe me, I despise ugly, insulting posts from all parties. I often bite my tongue to avoid adding to the ugliness and I do try to resist baiting as hard as it is. I am not always successful.
I did call that Texas Republican a pig…It’s kind of a sixties thing…… I apologize to swine everywhere.
He’s a pawn of big business interests and those interests overrides his duty to serve the people. His record is clear.
Did I mention that Obaama is a demagogue?
The early 20th century American social critic and humorist H. L. Mencken, known for his “definitions” of terms, defined a demagogue as “one who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.”
Fo’ sho’.
FilmFan, thank you for the eloquent, thoughtful and heartfelt post…..
P insults the President on his first full day in office… and I guess, Americans must be the idiots he refers too. His soul is weighed down with cynicism.
Would he care to enumerate the doctrines that Obama knows to be untrue and yet preaches?
I know we have become accustomed to politicians who say things like “We don’t torture,” when they are torturing.
Until proven otherwise, I am willing to accept our President is a man of goodwill and good intentions, and one who is talking straight to the American people…
“On this day, we gather because we have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord.
On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics.” The Prez
I saw a news clip today of Obama and Biden speaking somewhere. Biden made an off the cuff remard ‘well my memory isn’t any better than Justice Roberts’. Obama didn’t crack a smile but did touch Biden arm much the way you would quiet a child that has spoken out of turn.
This raised him in my eyes and also reaffirmed what I have said on this blog. He is a gentleman and would be very ashamed of some of the things his ’supporters’ on this blog talk about others especially Bush.
A good lesson for all.
David I think you are on the right track. Keep it up. We might raise the civility level here.
Jed,
I am very curious as to who you think has a similar ’style’ to me.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/on-sedgwick-county-bench-its-men-28-women-zero/#comment-505837
Obama takes presidential oath again after stumble
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090122/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_oath_do_over
What a DumbSiht!
Obama has to take Oath of Office Twice Before He Can Get It Right!
Obama, Roberts Finally Get It Right in Oath Do-Over
President Obama re-takes the oath of office after he and Chief Justice John Roberts stumbled over the language the first time.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/21/obama-takes-oath-office/
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, January 21, 2009
Did Obama need two tries to take his marriage vows too?
Never seen any President be so incompetent with a simple Oatch of Office!
Dumbing down America!
Sounds like Brownback doesn’t think Kansan prison guards are any match for GITMO super villans.
Just shows what can happen when you have to repeat after a bush appointee to the S.C.
Obama should have just corrected his dumb ass.
And Roberts apologized for botching it. The lie machine has started already . . ?
The lie machine never stopped! And some go out of their way to keep it going.
Typical con think, blame the victim, esp. if he’s black.
One of Olberman’s “worst persons” tonight was some idiot who said the same thing as Johnson…. Roberts apologized yesterday, after the ceremony was over… Anybody who has ears can hear exactly what happened…
It was the guy on fox that passes himself off as a newsperson.
Long day ahead tomorrow….
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings all!!
blessings on our great country!!
so mote it be!!
Folks, JimJohnson lives to provoke for the sake of provocation. There is usually no point in responding.
Besides, I could hardly imagine a more ridiculous “issue.” Fox and their tabloid electronic brethren may produce hectares of manufactured outrage, but I bet Roberts thought Biden’s ribbing was funny, and took no offense.
Rage
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:44 pm | Permalink
Without question, brother. Thank you.
I am hoping to follow our President’s call for civil disagreements and putting the petty bickering behind and act as a participant in uniting Americans against our common problems.. Pray give me the strength…
It’s a noble calling, DavidB. I wish you well. I’ve never thought of you as one of the guilty ones who needed to turn a new leaf, but respect your decision.
Bradley J. Schlozman
JimJohnson is the poster formerly known as Max?
He changed his nic, because???
Try being honest, Max, it won’t kill you.
Around here all you need do is criticize one of the Republicans in public office and you’ll be denigrated. Maybe it is due to the ‘collective’ mindset that when you find fault with one you’ve found fault withe them all.
Or maybe it’s just because they’re mean, and have to pick on someone. ;-)
The Inaugural Oath screw-up explained –
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/kevin_siers/
Good one Monkey!! LOL
Around here all you need do is criticize one of the Republicans in public office and you’ll be denigrated. Maybe it is due to the ‘collective’ mindset that when you find fault with one you’ve found fault withe them all.
Or maybe it’s just because they’re mean, and have to pick on someone. ;-)
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No Linda.
It’s not the Republican posters, or the Democratic posters. It’s a few posters – on both sides – who begin every post with the usual crap. On the left, it usually begins with some idiotic “reichwing” slur, which is followed in kind on the other side, and then it’s off.
Or the right will start the stupidity, and the left responds, ad infinitum.
No matter. It always ends up the same, with the bombthrowers on either side lobbing broadsides. Much noise, accomplishing nothing, each blaming the other for being negative and hateful.
I’m tired of it, and I won’t take part. I’m with you, David. I don’t care who started it, I’m ending it. No more.
That does not mean I will not say my piece. You may not agree with me, and that’s fine. I can live with disagreement; hell, it’s a lot more interesting than the same thing just repeated back to me. But I will do my best not to use language designed to do nothing but provoke.
For what it’s worth. And Mary, I hope to join you at the Anchor. It will likely be later, however; I have another commitment earlier in the evening. Keep the beer cold.
12 Elegant Examples of Evolution
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/12/evolutionexampl.html#previouspost
“…after Roberts flubbed some of the wording the new president used language different from that prescribed in the Constitution.
The chief justice and the president handled the matter privately in the Map Room on Wednesday night. It took 25 seconds, and when Obama repeated the oath Roberts told him, “Congratulations, again.”
The oath as written is: “I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States….”
But on Tuesday Roberts said, “I will execute the office of President to the United States faithfully.” When Obama stumbled in repeating the line, it may have been because he knew the way it was supposed to be said.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/21/obama-takes-oath-office/
Hey simpleton’s,
Do you really think the HEAD JUSTICE at THE HEAD COURT really doesn’t know the oath?
I love how they have “complete openess and transparency”, yet did this do-over without any media at all, just a little snapshot.
You poor, blind people. It’s means something to have this legal oath “botched”. Or maybe like everything else in your dumb-down simple world, everything means nothing. It’s a damned free-for-all.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/21/obama.oath/index.html
And GMC, you’re one of the biggest mud slingers on here…now you’re going to be virtuous as well?
You’re not saying a dang thing about the oath bungle…what kind of lawyer are you?
We’ll see.
It means something. Actually, it means everything. Unless lying on the stand is a good thing. Can crossing your finger’s while taking an oath at court work? Would the court let me off for pergury?
Heck with this admin, I can not pay my taxes and just miss-take the oath to get out of it with a miss-trial.
I think I’ll like Obaaama after all.
Dammit, perJury, I thought something looked odd.
Pleefer, dude, go back to bed — you’re up WAY too early!!!
Amway…Good! I hope to see you there!
“Mary would just as soon have all our guns actually taken by the government if she could.”
Can you prove I ever said that, Nathan? Once again you’re telling lies.
Pleefer,
Obama became President at noon last Tuesday, without the oath.
“No Linda.
It’s not the Republican posters, or the Democratic posters. It’s a few posters – on both sides – who begin every post with the usual crap.” — GMC70
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You are right! Thank you for the correction and keeping me honest!
Generalizations are usually disingenuous.
I hope to see you Friday night. I think we met at The Eagle, but it will be good to see you now that I’ve become more familiar with who is who. That meet-up at The Eagle came when I first began blogging and everyone was brand new to me.
Cosmo, no he didn’t.
Or maybe in your insane world, legality shmegality?
And I work for a living Chas. The early bird I am.