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The news today and the only news is the inauguration in Washington D.C.
Missionaries don’t have a positive historical role in Alaskan history. They’d come in, hoard food and wealth, punish the Natives for speaking their own language and practicing their traditions, they’d kidnap children and brainwash them hundreds of miles away in religious schools. Now they have gone to use Alaska as a dumping ground for pedophile priests.
43 more allege sex abuse by Catholics
A group of 43 Alaska Natives who say they were sexually abused by Catholic priests and church volunteers have sued the Jesuit order, alleging that remote Alaska villages became a worldwide dumping ground for clergy with histories of abuse.
The 78-page lawsuit filed this week in Bethel Superior Court is the latest in an Alaska clergy scandal that involves more than 300 victims and about 40 accused perpetrators, according to Patrick Wall, a former monk and priest who works for a California law firm as an advocate for sex abuse victims.
More at:
http://www.adn.com/life/religion/story/654654.html
Hallelujah, the day has finally come!
Yes, I must admit..Barack Hussein Obama has definitely become an inspiration and a role model. He has proven what a black man, raised by white grandparents, can do.
I just wonder how many of his 500+ campaign promises he will actually keep.
Questions for Obama’s science guy
by Jeff Jacoby
IN NOMINATING John Holdren to be director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy — the position known informally as White House science adviser — President-elect Barack Obama has enlisted an undisputed Big Name among academic environmentalists, one “with a resume longer than your arm,” as Newsweek’s Sharon Begley exulted when the announcement was made. Holdren is a physicist, a professor of environmental policy at Harvard, a former president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the director of the Woods Hole Research Center, and the author or co-author of many papers and books. He is also a doom-and-gloomer with a trail of erroneous apocalyptic forecasts dating back nearly 40 years — and a decided lack of tolerance for environmental opinions that conflict with his.
The position of science adviser requires Senate confirmation. Holdren’s nomination is likely to sail through, but conscientious senators might wish to ask him some questions. Here are eight:
1. You were long associated with population alarmist Paul Ehrlich, and joined him in predicting disasters that never came to pass. For example, you and Ehrlich wrote in 1969: “It cannot be emphasized enough that if . . . population control measures are not initiated immediately and effectively, all the technology man can bring to bear will not fend off the misery to come.” In 1971, the two of you were adamant that “some form of ecocatastrophe, if not thermonuclear war, seems almost certain to overtake us before the end of the century.” In the 1980s, Ehrlich quoted your expectation that “carbon dioxide-induced famines could kill as many as a billion people before the year 2020.” What have you learned from the failure of these prophecies to come true?
2. You have advocated the “long-term desirability of zero population growth” for the United States. In 1973, you pronounced the US population of 210 million as “too many” and warned that “280 million in 2040 is likely to be much too many.” The US population today is 304 million. Are there too many Americans?
3. You opposed the Reagan administration’s military buildup in the 1980s for fear it might “increase the belligerency of the Soviet government.” You pooh-poohed any notion that “the strain of an accelerated arms race will do more damage to the Soviet economy than to our own,” or that “damaging the Soviet economy would benefit the US.” But that is exactly what happened, and President Reagan’s defense buildup helped win the Cold War. Did that outcome alter your thinking on military questions?
4. You argued that “a massive campaign must be launched … to de-develop the United States” in order to conserve energy; you also recommended the “de-development” of modern industrialized nations in order to facilitate growth in underdeveloped countries. Yet elsewhere you observed: “Affordable energy in ample quantities is the lifeblood of the industrial societies and a prerequisite for the economic development of the others.” Which is it?
5. In Scientific American, you recently wrote: “The ongoing disruption of the Earth’s climate by man-made greenhouse gases is already well beyond dangerous and is careening toward completely unmanageable.” An interview you gave to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists was headlined “The Sky Is Falling.” Given your record with forecasting calamity, shouldn’t policymakers view your alarm with a degree of skepticism?
6. In 2006, according to the London Times, you suggested that global sea levels could rise 13 feet by the end of this century. But the latest assessment from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is that sea levels are likely to have risen only 13 inches by 2100. Can you explain the discrepancy between your estimate and the IPCC’s?
7. “Variability has been the hallmark of climate over the millennia,” you wrote in 1977. “The one statement about future climate that can be made with complete assurance is that it will be variable.” If true, should we not be wary of ascribing too much importance to human influence on climate change?
8. You are withering in your contempt for researchers who are unconvinced that human activity is responsible for global warming, or that global warming is an onrushing disaster. You have written that such ideas are “dangerous,” that those who hold them “infest” the public discourse, and that paying any attention to their views is “a menace.” You contributed to a published assault on Bjorn Lomborg’s notable 2001 book “The Skeptical Environmentalist” — an attack the Economist described as “strong on contempt and sneering, but weak on substance.” In light of President-elect Obama’s insistence that “promoting science” means “protecting free and open inquiry,” will you work to soften your hostility toward scholars who disagree with you?
Perhaps Paul Ehrlich got some details wrong, maybe we manage to be obese… but…
More than 840 million people in the world are malnourished — 799 million of them live in the developing world.
More than 153 million of the world’s malnourished people are children under the age of 5.
Six million children under the age of 5 die every year as a result of hunger.
http://www.care.org/campaigns/world-hunger/facts.asp
“Raptor” gives us –
“He has proven what a black man, raised by white grandparents, can do.”
Uh-huh.
But it’s not as if you CONs are racist or anything.
As for “some form of ecocatastrophe, seems almost certain to overtake us before the end of the century” … do you know the statistics on species extinction now taking place?
Just because we are not going through something that looks like an Irwin Allen disaster movie, there is no denying that ecological catastrophes are indeed taking place.
I see a glib article by a conservative pundit, but it denies the facts on the ground.
mh…my statement was pure fact. You are acting like jesse and sharpton…claiming anything you don’t like is racist.
My statement was pure fact. Barack Hussein Obama was raised by white grandparents after his black father abandoned him. That is not racist, that is absolute fact. Just because you don’t like the facts does not make the statement “racist”.
Me thinkest thou protesteth too much……..
Monkey”boy” says-
“But it’s not as if you CONs are racist or anything.”
gigglesnort….
I don’t care who you are, that there is fuuunny.
“My statement was pure fact. Barack Hussein Obama was raised by white grandparents after his black father abandoned him. That is not racist, that is absolute fact. Just because you don’t like the facts does not make the statement “racist”.”
Maybe that’s what contributed to his pragmatism..the fact that he was raised by a single mom and has been a part of both black and white cultures. He is a self made man and is proof that if one really wants to succeed, it’s attainable.
Don’t forget we’re celebrating Bush leaving office at The Anchor on Friday! This day couldn’t have come soon enough!
The rebooting of America begins… Press Control/Alt/Obama
It never ceases to amaze me how CONs spew out obviously intentional racist remarks then, when called on it, run away.
C’mon, CONs! OWN your racism! Stand up for it! Snark and giggle to your hearts’ content the first time they prepare fried chicken or watermelon in the White House Mess. Call the leader of the free world an “Alabama porch monkey,” for all I care. At least admit you’re racist, don’t run away from it like Limbaugh feigned innocence after the “Magic Negro” kerfuffle.
Select Bush-Cheney/DELETE
mh, I am not running away from anything. Show me ONE WORD that I said that is not fact. Facts are not racist, they are simple facts.
Just because you don’t like the facts doesn’t make them racist.
Just Hours Away …a note from Michael Moore
Tuesday, January 20th, 2009
Friends,
This happy, happy day!
We have made it through the Dark Ages and here we are, in one of the most redemptive moments history has ever witnessed. Barack Obama is our best hope to get it right, to heal our national soul, to reach out to the rest of the world with an olive branch instead of shocking brutality.
I want to take this opportunity to thank each and every one of you who has worked to make this day happen. For many, the madness goes back, not eight years but twenty-eight years, to the tragic day Reagan was sworn in to dismantle our precious “government of the people” and our beloved way of life.
To all of you who have spoken up and spoken out, who have written letters and marched for peace, for all of you who never gave up, you are the true heroes today. Many of you have suffered great economic losses. Some of you have endured a loved one being shipped overseas to senseless and shameful wars, and thousands of you have seen those loved ones returned home, no longer alive. It has been a heartbreaking time.
But the sun comes out at noon today. The disgraced outgoing president will slide out the side door and head to Crawford to sell the Hollywood set known as the Bush “ranch” before he settles down in an exclusive neighborhood in Dallas. I would encourage Mr. Bush to issue one final pardon before noon today — his own. He had better issue a blanket pardon for all crimes that may have been committed since 2001 by himself, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the whole gang. Serious laws were broken, a war was concocted on a lie, and now, please, justice must be carried out.
So let us move forward and fix the horrible mess we are in. We are fortunate to have a new president who is smart and kind and committed to serving his country. Take a moment today and think about what you can do to join him in helping him do his job. We’re all in this together. Our country has been so profoundly wrecked by an administration who decided to mug our constitution and then steal what they can for their Wall Street cronies on the way out the door.
Here is my plea: Let’s not leave Barack Obama alone to clean up the mess. As he takes his oath today, please take one yourself — to work harder than ever to end these wars, create universal health care, save our planet, end poverty, increase knowledge and establish a true government “of, by and for the people” (instead of “of, by and for the lobbyists, the bankers, and the war profiteers”).
On a personal note, it’s no secret that I have had to suffer an avalanche of hate and attack as I stuck my neck out to simply do my job. Some day I will tell you what the true cost of this has been for me, but not today. Today is a time for celebration and optimism and hope. I’m glad we all lived to see this incredible moment. And I thank each of you for your support of my work and your dedication to our democracy.
12:01pm can’t come soon enough! Happy Inauguration Day!
Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com
Americans have never been good at discussing race. As liberal as I may be, I am aware I may well harbor some racism. If we could stop the shouting… and stop the accusations… and perhaps begin a dialogue.,,, it is time for change, kids…
The innuendo was clear.. it’s pointless to try to force introspection…
Quit trying, “Raptor” –
It’s not working.
Raptor; consider the source.
Good point, Out…very good point. Facts are not well liked by some people, it would seem.
DavidB
“I am aware I may well harbor some racism”
We all have prejudices, against all kinds of groups. Do not mistake that for Racism. There are very few true racists left in this country.
I don’t think that what Raptor, a white man raised by white parents, said was racist.
After all, Martin Luther King was a black man raised by black parents. Stephan Douglass was a black man raised by no parents.
And George W. Bush was a white man raised by a Mexican nanny.
I think from now on whenever we mention ANY person we should also mention their race and the race of the people who raised them.
Because there’s nothing racist about that–it’s just facts.
For instance when I refer to Rush Limbaugh as “The Drug Addict, Rush Limbaugh,” that is in no way a negative reflection on Rush Limbaugh; it is a simple statement of fact.
Heavy sarcasm
Bush Presidency Death Watch
Exactly 4 hours until the administration of the Worst.President.Ever. expires . . .
To a certain small extent (very small) I agree with Capn. But ya know, it is the left that is making a big deal about an AFRICAN AMERICAN man being elected president.
So typically, it’s OK for them, racist for others.
Thank goodness, outlander, a white man raised by white parents, agrees with me.
WOW! The National Mall is already packed.
And this time they’re not throwing eggs and boo-ing . . .
So anyway, Capn America et al… will inform you when you are being “racist” with the facts, all the while touting the first BLACK president, which, of course is racist.
You want to stop that divisive crap Capn, or keep it up? I think we know the answer.
“Don’t forget we’re celebrating Bush leaving office at The Anchor on Friday! This day couldn’t have come soon enough!”
Can’t wait!
Out
You want to stop that divisive crap Capn, or keep it up? I think we know the answer.
Of course we do. For Capn to do otherwise would require actual thinking. It’ much easier to simply let that knee jerk mindlessly.
I find it ironic that someone who’s religion is evolution to attack someone as a racist.
The cons are in full throat whine this morning.
TUESDAY MORNING DONKEY ALERT
A Jordanian Wedding Turns into a Massive Show of Support for Al-Qaeda; Al-Zarqawi’s Circle Identified
[ http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/1988.htm ]
The angel of the LORD also said to her [ Hagar ] “You are now with child and you will have a son .. You shall name him Ishmael [ father of the Arabs ] for the LORD has heard of your misery . . . He will be a wild donkey of a man .. his hand will be against everyone .. and everyone’s hand against him .. and he will live in hostility .. toward all his brothers” . . . .
( the Holy Bible .. Old testament .. Genesis 16 )
Well, speaking of the great celebration at the Anchor on Friday, how many ‘Cons’ are planning to attend?
I’d go if there was ‘backup’!
Hank posted January 20, 2009 at 6:36 am
Questions for Obama’s science guy
by Jeff Jacoby
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Poor Hank, right-wing columnist Jeff Jacoby, and all the other AGW deniers. . .
They know that carbon taxes and other policies will be enacted to reduce GHG’s — and they also know they cannot stop it from happening.
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HLP
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:03 am | Permalink
Well, speaking of the great celebration at the Anchor on Friday, how many ‘Cons’ are planning to attend?
I’d go if there was ‘backup’!
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I thought about it, but since Mary has changed the theme from Bush leaving instead of Obama’s inauguration, I’ll pass.
• cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink
‘Survey: Scientists Agree Human-Induced Global Warming is Real‘
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/548192/
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The survey was conducted by Peter Doran who in a 2002 interview said:
“If you look at the warming trends that have been published recently, just this past year by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change which is really the BIBLE of climate change, you can see that the majority of the globe is warming.”
Praise be.
Praise be.
Any excuse, huh, Regular?
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Regular
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:07 am | Permalink
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HLP
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:03 am | Permalink
Well, speaking of the great celebration at the Anchor on Friday, how many ‘Cons’ are planning to attend?
I’d go if there was ‘backup’!
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I thought about it, but since Mary has changed the theme from Bush leaving instead of Obama’s inauguration, I’ll pass.
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Ditto here. I could wish Obama well, but I am not going to sit around a bar and listen to Bush bashing.
( the Holy Bible .. Old testament .. Genesis 16 )
I love it when you post this stuff about what the Bible says about the “Arabs”. Nothing in the least bit slanted, right? ‘Cause, after all, the Bible was written by…Jewish men.
‘97% of active climatologists agree that human activity is causing global warming‘
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/01/97_of_active_climatologists_ag.php
donndublin posted January 20, 2009 at 9:08 am
Praise be.
fleettwood posted January 20, 2009 at 9:09 am
Praise be.
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The silly AGW denier twins are very well synchronized this morning. . .
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Predestined
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:13 am | Permalink
Any excuse, huh, Regular?
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Nope, I thought it was going to be something positive.
Instead, it is based on false pretense.
outlander posted January 20, 2009 at 9:14 am
Ditto here. I could wish Obama well, but I am not going to sit around a bar and listen to Bush bashing.
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Translation: Since Bush is indefensible, the Bush supporters definitely don’t want to be there.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink
‘97% of active climatologists agree that human activity is causing global warming‘
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/01/97_of_active_climatologists_ag.php
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“While respondents’ names are kept private, the authors noted that the survey included participants with well-documented dissenting opinions on global warming theory.”
Of course they’re kept private. That way it can’t be verified.
Praise be.
Deltoid is a left wing extremist blog.
It really doesn’t sound like many of the libs are going either.
Most of them are so nasty on the BLOG they’re afraid to show their faces in public!
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:25 am | Permalink
outlander posted January 20, 2009 at 9:14 am
Ditto here. I could wish Obama well, but I am not going to sit around a bar and listen to Bush bashing.
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Translation: Since Bush is indefensible, the Bush supporters definitely don’t want to be there.
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Not at all cosmos…
Sitting around with a bunch of leftists and libs imbibing alcoholic beverages when the party was supposed to be a positive thing about Obama’s inauguration is probably a good thing.
Sitting around with a bunch of leftists and libs imbibing alcoholic beverages when the party is about Bush bashing is a bad thing.
I can go to an Alqaeda meeting if I want to hear ‘hate America’ propaganda.
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HLP
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:28 am | Permalink
It really doesn’t sound like many of the libs are going either.
Most of them are so nasty on the BLOG they’re afraid to show their faces in public!
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Yeah, well I think some libs are more afraid of me even though i don’t carry a weapon.
They are convinced I’m insane and would probably wield a broken bottle at the bar threatening their existence. :)
‘Surveyed scientists agree global warming is real‘
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/01/19/eco.globalwarmingsurvey/
“* Story Highlights
* Most earth scientists believe humans cause of global warming, according to survey
* 97 percent of climatologists canvassed believe humans play a role
* Petroleum geologists and meteorologists were among the biggest doubters”
Regular,
Have you found your (non-existent) links proving your (false) claim that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees?
‘09 , THE YEAR OF THE WHINE?
Is someone having a Midol Moment?
In the 1970s, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Lake Pontchartrain and Vicinity Hurricane Barrier Project planned to build fortifications at two strategic locations, which would keep massive storms on the Gulf of Mexico from causing Lake Pontchartrain to flood the city. An article in the May 28, 2005, New Orleans Times-Picayune stated, “Under the original plan, floodgate-type structures would have been built at the Rigolets and Chef Menteur passes to block storm surges from moving from the Gulf into Lake Pontchartrain.”
“The floodgates would have blocked the flow of water from the Gulf of Mexico, through Lake Borgne, through the Rigolets [and Chef Mentuer] into Lake Pontchartrain,” declared Professor Gregory Stone, the James P. Morgan Distinguished Professor and Director of the Coastal Studies Institute of Louisiana State University. “This would likely have reduced storm surge coming from the Gulf and into the Lake Pontchartrain,” Professor Stone told Michael P. Tremoglie during an interview on September 6. The professor concluded, “[T]hese floodgates would have alleviated the flooding of New Orleans caused by Hurricane Katrina.”
In 1977, plans for hurricane protection structures at the Rigolets and Chef Menteur Pass were sunk when environmental groups sued the district. They believed that the environmental impact statement did not adequately address several potential problems, including impacts on Lake Pontchartrain’s ecosystem and damage to wetlands.
New Orleans: A Green Genocide
By Michael Tremoglie
FrontPageMagazine.com
libdave,,,so what are your positive, enlightning thoughts for this morning?
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Regular
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink
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HLP
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:28 am | Permalink
It really doesn’t sound like many of the libs are going either.
Most of them are so nasty on the BLOG they’re afraid to show their faces in public!
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Yeah, well I think some libs are more afraid of me even though i don’t carry a weapon.
They are convinced I’m insane and would probably wield a broken bottle at the bar threatening their existence. :)
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Seems the cons think a bit too much of themselves. You have nothing to be worried about, reg. You would be totally ignored, except to maybe drop a quarter in your tin cup.
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JMWalker
Posted January 20, 2009 at 10:03 am | Permalink
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Regular
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink
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HLP
Posted January 20, 2009 at 9:28 am | Permalink
It really doesn’t sound like many of the libs are going either.
Most of them are so nasty on the BLOG they’re afraid to show their faces in public!
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Yeah, well I think some libs are more afraid of me even though i don’t carry a weapon.
They are convinced I’m insane and would probably wield a broken bottle at the bar threatening their existence. :)
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Seems the cons think a bit too much of themselves. You have nothing to be worried about, reg. You would be totally ignored, except to maybe drop a quarter in your tin cup.
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Well, there it is Walker, you’ve demonstrated the prevailing attitude of the left.
I shall not be attending because of the attitude demonstrated here.
On parade today-
Celebrity worship.(cult of personality)
Disrespect for our flag.
Hallmarks of the Left that I guess we are stuck with for at least the next four years.
Sounds more like” What goes around, comes around”.
Regular posted January 20, 2009 at 9:56 am
In the 1970s, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Lake Pontchartrain . . .
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Regular,
Did you forget. . . again?
The Sierra Club was NOT involved in the 1970’s lawsuit.
jm if you did drop the quarter more than likely it would not have been yours to begin with, highly doubtful it would have come out of your pocket
“Regular” begs off Friday at the Anchor –
“I shall not be attending because of the attitude demonstrated here.”
That, and it’d mean he’d have to put on pants.
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Posted January 20, 2009 at 10:14 am | Permalink
Regular posted January 20, 2009 at 9:56 am
In the 1970s, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Lake Pontchartrain . . .
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Regular,
Did you forget. . . again?
The Sierra Club was NOT involved in the 1970’s lawsuit.
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Yes, but as usual, you’ve altered the original posts made where I included all Environmental lawsuits that had its toll preventing the saving of New Orleans from tidal surges.
If successful, your carbon taxes will be the tsunami that floods the World and U.S. into economic disaster.
Regular,
Since you seem to have trouble remembering simple facts, here’s a post with a link that explains the two relevant lawsuits.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f/#comment-239957
Obama’s Dad was a Kenyan student who married his mother but after 2 years they split, and I don’t know why. Was he was committed to go home by reason of his student visa? Maybe he wanted to help build his newly minted country with his American degree the prime reason for educating foreign students in those days, but knew America was the best place for his son. Obama’s grandfather was a decorated veteran who fought for the Brits in Burma after being promised Kenyan independence with victory. As usual the Brits(think Kurds, Armenians, Jews) did not follow-up so this decorated soldier joined a nationalist movement, was arrested and abused by Brit jailers until Kenya gained freedom under Jomo Kenetta. Maybe Obamas mom didn’t want to leave America, maybe his Dad felt a duty to his homeland and wanted to build on what his father had suffered for, we don’t know. But we do know is that Obama’s Dad was later killed in car accident in Kenya. Perhaps the “abandoned” thing is a cocoon for folks who find more comfort in prejudice than fact. Obamas paternal line shows no sign of being at all shabby to me, and in lieu of what Obama has done, he may have some damn good genes passed down from those who did not shirk their duty as they saw it. I admit there is a lot of “perhaps’s” here but the events are accurate.
gster.facts plz
in 1996 the Louisiana chapter of the Sierra Club sued to block an Army Corps of Engineers project to raise and fortify levees along the lower Mississippi.
http://www.gothamgazette.com/print/1598
Best color commentary about Bill Clinton
By Michelle Malkin
January 20, 2009 11:20 AM
Amid all the dreary, colorless cliches clogging inauguration coverage, Brit Hume elicits a triple-snort from me:
Hillary and Bill Clinton came into view.
Hume: “Bill Clinton always looks like a man searching for the proper expression to put on his face. It’s always been this way as long as I have covered him.”
Lip bite? Feigned solemnity? Slight impish grin? What to do? What to do?
snort
Groups including American Rivers and the Sierra Club sued in federal court in 1996 to prevent the Army Corps of Engineers from proceeding with a planned upgrade to 303 miles of levees in Louisiana, Mississippi and Arkansas. An Army Corps spokesman observed at the time that a failure of the levees in question “could wreak catastrophic consequences on Louisiana and Mississippi which the states would be decades in overcoming.” The lawsuit succeeded in delaying the project for two years while further environmental impact studies were completed.
http://www.reason.org/outofcontrol/archives/2005/09/
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Regular
Posted January 20, 2009 at 10:06 am | Permalink
Well, there it is Walker, you’ve demonstrated the prevailing attitude of the left.
I shall not be attending because of the attitude demonstrated here.
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You shall not be missed.
JM Walker,
ACtually, we have had to hear for the last year now how we are not welcome, not invited, or that if there is a chance someone like me would show up that many people wouldn’t go.
As a matter of fact, There are a couple of posters, BlueJay and Linda, who make it a point to let everyone know what I just said too.
Have either of them confirmed they are going, knowing that I might be there?
One more time for those going:
How long do you plan on staying?
“Nathaniel” whines –
“…we have had to hear for the last year now how we are not welcome, not invited, or that if there is a chance someone like me would show up that many people wouldn’t go.”
Just show up in uniform, boy.
Nathan, hate your politics; enjoy your company. What other people think is their business. I have no idea when it starts or ends, or even if I’m going. I will admit some posters I would ignore, should I meet them, but violence? Too old for that s hit.
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wichhick
Posted January 20, 2009 at 10:16 am | Permalink
jm if you did drop the quarter more than likely it would not have been yours to begin with, highly doubtful it would have come out of your pocket
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If that’s the case, I would expect you to show up quarterless.
jm your probably right…….my grandkids take all my change.but if you really needed help and had no way out my wife would probably pay your electric bill.i wouldn’t even protest but i would rather pay for bluejay moving expenses
Hail to the chief. Prez Obama, may his term be fruitful and full of promise for our great nation.
“We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things. The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better history; to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea, passed on from generation to generation: the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness.”
Libs this is Obama’s challenge to you. Are you up to it?
Of course not. Now will begin the endless demands for Bush to be brought to justice and to bring his administration before the courts!
Dubya is irrelevant.
Justice must not be ignored for the sake of diplomacy.
Nathaniel,
I believe Mary mentioned staying until 10 or so. It may depend on different people’s arrival time. I noticed the temps will be low and there’s a chance of flurries.
Justice? Who was talking about Justice?
I am talking about the crying and grand standing that will soon happen by the most extreme liberals in Congress.
Who said anything about Justice?
I wouldn’t make it until late, so you liberals who were not going to go because of me don’t have much to worry about.
“In reaffirming the greatness of our nation, we understand that greatness is never a given. It must be earned. Our journey has never been one of short-cuts or settling for less. It has not been the path for the faint-hearted – for those who prefer leisure over work, or seek only the pleasures of riches and fame. Rather, it has been the risk-takers, the doers, the makers of things – some celebrated but more often men and women obscure in their labor, who have carried us up the long, rugged path towards prosperity and freedom.”
I so hope these are not just words because they do in fact embody what is great about our nation. They also sound a warning to those who would sit back waiting for the country to take care of them that it won’t happen. If you want to share in the spoils then you must do the work.
I have to go now but once again say that I hope these words speak of Obamas future method of governing.
“Justice must not be ignored for the sake of diplomacy”
Nor should it be persued for the sake of revenge.
I’d like to point out that Obama is wearing a flag pin.
Keith Olberman said it well in his special comment last night.
The bush administration committed crimes in the name of America. America must not wear those crimes. They must belong to the perpetrators alone.
Nathan I can only hope that the libs here will ’set aside childish things’ and let the nation heal. I hope the far left won’t try to go after Bush because we as a nation don’t have the time to waste this would entail.
Bush has done nothing wrong. He acted with his authority as prez to protect our nation. Hopefully calmer heads will prevail and the BJ’s of our country will retire to their corner to shout ineffective words ever so often.
Fair enough, okobserver.
That comment referred to okobserver’s 11:25 a.m. post, not the 11:29 a.m. one.
“Nathaniel” –
Posted January 20, 2009 at 11:23 am | Permalink
Justice? Who was talking about Justice?
I am talking about the crying and grand standing that will soon happen by the most extreme liberals in Congress.
Who said anything about Justice?
Uhm, you did, boy. Four minutes earlier. Remember –
Nathaniel
Posted January 20, 2009 at 11:19 am | Permalink
Of course not. Now will begin the endless demands for Bush to be brought to justice
But of course you reject the concept of justice applied to ex-president Bush.
I’ll let Karma take care of Dubya. It hasn’t failed me yet. :)
“okobserver” claims –
“Bush has done nothing wrong. “
I agree Karma will give bush exactly what he deserves.
Again, I was struck by Obama speaking to us as adults. No lecturing, and a great deal of respect given to each individual. We have a president who has confidence in Americans, who expects us to do and be what we are capable of, to be our best and make America great again.
What a wonderfully inspiring man! What a great day for America.
capn… Your claim of:
“For instance when I refer to Rush Limbaugh as “The Drug Addict, Rush Limbaugh,” that is in no way a negative reflection on Rush Limbaugh; it is a simple statement of fact.”
Demonstrates your total lack of understanding and compassion when it comes to addictions. Do you also point and laugh at people in wheelchairs?
I will never defend Rush, however…he is as big a nut job extremist as you are..just on the other side of the spectrum.
Pat yourselves on the back. I admit it, Obama is as good an orator as Hitler ever was. He got the people militantly and robotically behind him.
You’ll let “karma” take care of Bushco, because bringing him to justice yourselves would not allow you folks to continue on with Bushco policies.
And know it, beyond your cute naivete, Bushco will carry on!
A harsher Patriot Act, more troop surges in Afghanistan and universal conscription. A completely tanked economy. And the media will make sure that you folks are thinking correctly. They will make certain that you go along with it all, cause if you don’t…then obviously you’re a rascist. And no one wants to feel that way.
Oh no…I slipped up.
I am so deeply sorry for my paranoid, nut job rant. I must be drunk again.
Bush ain’t a hard act to follow. Sorry.
Does Regular not understand the difference between Lake Pontchartrain in New Orleans, and a area 100+ miles north, on the Mississippi river?
Or is Regular just doing his usual trolling. . .?
Jed,
I am very curious as to who you think has a similar ’style’ to me.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/on-sedgwick-county-bench-its-men-28-women-zero/#comment-505837
This could be our next nightmare – foreign investors dump the dollar. If we want confidence restored in our American economy, the Feds had better get their act together and stop trying to spend our way to prosperity. If they stop lending, we will have no one to borrow from..
“JANUARY 19, 2009, 6:44 P.M. ET Bearish View in Korea Article
By EVAN RAMSTAD
SEOUL — An investment manager at South Korea’s national pension fund said Monday it might sell U.S. Treasurys because of the prospect that they will become less profitable and stoke inflation.
With the statement, South Korea’s largest investor added its voice to a group of investors and analysts who in recent weeks have expressed a bearish view on U.S. government debt.
Some economists and analysts have been expecting such a change in market sentiment for months and have been warning that it holds risks to the value of the U.S. dollar.
In an interview with Bloomberg News on Monday morning, Kim Hee-seok, the recently appointed chief of global investments for South Korea’s National Pension Service, said it is time to sell U.S. Treasurys because the size of fiscal stimulus in the U.S. will lead to inflation, which has a negative effect on fixed-income investments.
Reached later Monday by The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Kim reiterated his view. “Because the U.S. government is trying to mobilize a big stimulus plan, we don’t know the exact time but probably before the end of this year, it will cause inflation,” he said.
He also noted that the pension service earned sizable profits on U.S. Treasurys in the past year, though he wasn’t specific.
The agency manages about 224 trillion won ($166 billion).
U.S. bonds provided a 14% return last year when prices rose as the U.S. Federal Reserve cut interest rates to historic lows to fight the economic crisis. Treasury prices move in an inverse relationship to interest rates.”
‘Change Has Come to America‘
http://www.whitehouse.gov/
I told you so AmWay. The dollar will be dead in the water in a year. We’ll have stacks of bills to take to the market.
Know it, it’s already planned.
Or ignore me like the past 3 years.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
Does Regular not understand the difference between Lake Pontchartrain in New Orleans, and a area 100+ miles north, on the Mississippi river?
Or is Regular just doing his usual trolling. . .?
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You ignored the other post on Lake Pontchartrain, didn’t ya cosmos?
Yes, Mississippi and its deltas affect quite of bit of land.
cosmos not understand how wide spread the effect of the Mississippi actually is.
cosmos thinks that rural and small town people should die to flood waters.
Yep, Regular is just doing his regular LYING and trolling. . .
Linda,
So what have you been doing for the last 8 years?
Were you sitting around not doing anything, what you are capable of, just waiting for someone to tell you to?
Nathaniel,
I can promise I didn’t heed bush’s advice to,”go shopping.” At no time did bush inspire me to be my best, however I am greater and better than bush ever was.
Other than that, I don’t think what I do is any of your business.
Nathaniel posted January 20, 2009 at 12:36 pm
So what have you been doing for the last 8 years?
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The appropriate saying describing the last 8 year with G.W Bush as POTUS is (paraphrased):
‘It’s hard for a nation to soar with the eagles, when it’s led by a turkey.’
cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Permalink
Yep, Regular is just doing his regular LYING and trolling. .
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This is cosmos’s usual tripe.
If he can’t deal directly with the issue, he just call other posters liars and trolls.
Typical.
Well, today will begin the countdown!
Day 1.
Has BlueJay been given health care by Obama yet?
What has Obama done, specifically, to make BlueJay’s life better?
Predestined
Posted January 20, 2009 at 11:21 am | Permalink
“Dubya is irrelevane.”
Which would be different from….?
For giggles on this happy day of optimism.
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Bush Repeals English Language
Last Official Act as President
In what he hoped would be the capstone to his eight years as President, George W. Bush today signed an executive order repealing the English language.
Scrawling his name on the official document, Mr. Bush said that in abolishing English he had vanquished his “greaterest enemy.”
For Mr. Bush, the executive order represents the realization of a longstanding dream that began in 2001 when he declared an official War on Grammar.
The President followed up that declaration of war in 2003 when he signed an executive order cancelling the agreement between nouns and verbs.
Mr. Bush’s decision to repeal the English language could complicate matters for his successor, President-elect Barack Obama, who is scheduled to deliver his inaugural address tomorrow, presumably in English.
But thoughts of Mr. Obama seemed far away during today’s jubilant Oval Office ceremony, which Mr. Bush summed up in four words: “I can has legacy.”
Mr. Bush’s executive offer also drew high praise from a fellow Republican, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska: “Being that the English language can and has been used in confusing and also too in harming ordinary Americans, knowing that it no longer can or will be used in doing that is something positive that this is doing also.”
“What has Obama done, specifically, to make BlueJay’s life better?”
Well Nathan and his ilk are decidedly unhappy. Obama didn’t do that. But it will do for a start.
Iran will do it’s best to resupply with Hamas. There can be no appeasement with the Hamas terrorists. If there is a cease fire they will break it.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1232292910127&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Abortion lobbyists now say that abortion should now be pro-child, pro-mother, pro-family, pro-human rights. Abortion should be reproductive rights, which is really human rights. Abortion should not be contract murder any more, nor the mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading of human children. Abortion should be nice, a way to benefit those who are deemed more deserving of life.
(Hitler said something like that about his “Final Solution” to the Jewish problem, emphasizing rights and benefits for the master race, didn’t he?)
See news page
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=42131
Linda…that was funny! Thanks for posting it! Makes me think of a person I was speaking with from Indonesia–he said the Indonesian language is easy to learn–it has no grammar.
Maybe our most recent former Pres could try that one? He couldn’t mess it up much!
lindainks55
Posted January 20, 2009 at 12:39 pm | Permalink
Nathaniel,
I can promise I didn’t heed bush’s advice to,”go shopping.” At no time did bush inspire me to be my best, however I am greater and better than bush ever was.
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Linda while you crow in your vast egotistical manner just remember that as dumb as you think Bush is – he made better grades at Harvard than both Algore and Kerry.
You are a poor deluded fool and there are three of you that post here on a regular basis. Maybe we should refer to you as the ‘Three Stooges’. It certainly fits.
“okobserver” recycles –
“.as dumb as you think Bush is – he made better grades at Harvard…”
Ah, yes!
The “MBA Presidency” you CONs promised.
And sure ‘nuf, Shrub ran the country like a CEO… of Enron.
LOL!
‘Sherlock Holmes and case of the climate bandwagon‘
http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/sherlock-holmes-and-case-of-the-climate-bandwagon/
I suppose it does not matter the levees in question are 100 miles away from the ones that failed.
“And (Sierra Club) weren’t the only ones who had concerns: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Environmental Protection Agency and the Louisiana Legislature all urged the Corps to look at how the proposed project would have impacted the area. It refused to do so. That led the Sierra Club, American Rivers, the National Wildlife Federation, Arkansas and Mississippi Wildlife Federations, and the Mississippi River Basin Alliance to take the Corps to Court. The case was soon settled, with the Corps of Engineers agreeing in 1997 to look at ways of minimizing the damage to the wetlands.”
wetlands
The arm flailing environmentalist nut job term for unusable, vermin infested, stinky swamp like areas.
Thanks for making me research these issues. It usually proves that you make one-sided, overly political posts that completely misses the real issues…
“What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them – that the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long no longer apply. ” – The Prez….
It is any wonder why the number of AGW skeptics are growing when you have non-scientist alarmists like Algore and cosMo who viciously attack anyone who dare to question their sacred belief. The more that cosMo posts the more skeptical I become.
“The first opinion was actually written a couple years ago by Richard Lindzen (Alfred Sloan) who is noted as a professor of atmospheric science at MIT. In his Wall Street Journal Op-ed, Lindzen stresses that global warming alarmists use intimidation to silence the dissenting scientists.”
source:
http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2008/10/alarmist_and_denier_scientists_1.html
And then there are the peculiar standards in place in scientific journals for articles submitted by those who raise questions about accepted climate wisdom. At Science and Nature, such papers are commonly refused without review as being without interest. However, even when such papers are published, standards shift. When I, with some colleagues at NASA, attempted to determine how clouds behave under varying temperatures, we discovered what we called an “Iris Effect,” wherein upper-level cirrus clouds contracted with increased temperature, providing a very strong negative climate feedback sufficient to greatly reduce the response to increasing CO2. Normally, criticism of papers appears in the form of letters to the journal to which the original authors can respond immediately. However, in this case (and others) a flurry of hastily prepared papers appeared, claiming errors in our study, with our responses delayed months and longer. The delay permitted our paper to be commonly referred to as “discredited.” Indeed, there is a strange reluctance to actually find out how climate really behaves. In 2003, when the draft of the U.S. National Climate Plan urged a high priority for improving our knowledge of climate sensitivity, the National Research Council instead urged support to look at the impacts of the warming–not whether it would actually happen.
Source:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220
The last paragraph was a quote from, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT.
donndublin posted January 20, 2009 at 6:40 pm
. . .
“The first opinion was . . .
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Science is not based on “opinions”.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:01 pm | Permalink
donndublin posted January 20, 2009 at 6:40 pm
. . .
“The first opinion was . . .
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Science is not based on “opinions”.
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Science is not based on blogs either,like the dozens you post here.
You have yet to post one peer reviewed paper here.
Not once.
My husband found a stoney meteor the other day. We’re almost 100% sure that’s what it is. It’s pretty cool.
“You are a poor deluded fool and there are three of you that post here on a regular basis. Maybe we should refer to you as the ‘Three Stooges’. It certainly fits.”
I find it hysterical that someone who thinks the Earth is only 8,000 years old has the nerve to call someone else a fool! LOL!!!
Poor Regular is lonely. . . and he wants some soup. . .
“You are a poor deluded fool and there are three of you that post here on a regular basis. Maybe we should refer to you as the ‘Three Stooges’. It certainly fits.”
Yeah..that’s REAL respectful..why don’t YOU stop the childish name calling? Or are you just a “right wing wacko?”
I thought I found a meteorite once. Turns out it was an uplifted stone from a glacial period. Gave it to a rock hound.
cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:18 pm | Permalink
Poor Regular is lonely. . . and he wants some soup.
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This is the best answer cosmos has to offer, because he is not a scientist.
“Poor Regular is lonely. . . and he wants some soup.”
That’s the response Regular deserves, because he is a troll.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:23 pm | Permalink
“Poor Regular is lonely. . . and he wants some soup.”
That’s the response Regular deserves, because he is a troll.
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Actually cosmos, you fit the definition of a troll much better than I do calling everyone liars and re-inventing what they wrote.
A troll posts to get attention and evoke an emotional response.
Dear cosmos, you do that 100 percent of the time.
You are a pure troll cosmos.
“I thought I found a meteorite once. Turns out it was an uplifted stone from a glacial period. Gave it to a rock hound.”
Was it a drop stone?
My husband knows his geology, but we might take it to the cosmosphere and let them look at it.
It has all the characteristics of a meteorite.
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Mary_Caruso
Posted January 20, 2009 at 7:35 pm | Permalink
“I thought I found a meteorite once. Turns out it was an uplifted stone from a glacial period. Gave it to a rock hound.”
Was it a drop stone?
My husband knows his geology, but we might take it to the cosmosphere and let them look at it.
It has all the characteristics of a meteorite.
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Not sure what a drop stone is.
It was laying in the middle of a field, sticking up out of the ground.
I took it to a local museum, the told me it was a glacial stone that had migrated several thousand years ago. Was very smooth, with some grainy, semi-rough threads in it.
donndublin,
How many times has Richard Lindzen submitted (and withdrawn) his Iris theory?
Reg, that’s what a “drop stone” is. I’ve seen some in small land formations sticking out of the ocean.
Woman Says Anti-Abortion Nurse Removed IUD Without Permission, Then Lectured Her
ALBUQUERQUE (CN) – A clinic nurse first removed her intrauterine birth-control device without permission, says the patient in a federal action, then told her that “having the IUD come out was a good thing,” because “I personally do not like IUDs. I feel they are a type of abortion. I don’t know how you feel about abortion, but I am against them.”
The patient sued Presbyterian Health Services Rio Rancho Family Health Center and nurse practitioner Sylvia Olona in Federal Court.
OMFG – WHAAAA!!! http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/01/14/Woman_Says_Anti-Abortion_Nurse_Removed_IUD_Without_Permission_Then_Lectured_Her.htm
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!
blessings on the Obama administration…. and blessings on the United States of America!!
so mote it be!!
BlueJay said “Keith Olberman said it well in his special comment last night. (That was Monday night.)
“The bush administration committed crimes in the name of all Americans. America must not wear those crimes. They must belong to the perpetrators alone.”
I think there needs to be a commission that thoroughly goes over all the evidence about who promoted torture and how they justified it; about how the administration ignored our Constitutional right to privacy–no wire tapping or phone listening without a judicial warrant; and how the administration has held some people in Gitmo for several years with no charges filed against them; with no evidence presented to them or their counsel. Sometime before Jan. 20, some persons were sent back to their home countries who had never been charged with terrorism against us. That could be up to 6 years out of someone’s life for no reasonable purpose.
Recently, someone who’s job was to listen in on phone calls from our service personnel in Iraq went public with the news that some of those who listened to the phone calls kept a copy of those calls when there was a message which included phone sex between the service person and their spouse. How’s that for a soldier having his/her constitutional rights stripped away without his/her knowledge.
Once the evidence is all out in the open, I don’t think a trial is nessarily the best solution for the country. I like the example that Nelson Mandela & Bishop Tutu did in South Africa. Rather than punishing those who wantonly beat and killed black South Africans, the perpetrators were offered the chance to go before a Reconciliation Commission and confess; they were then forgiven.
I think that method of redemption or some workable form of it would help protect the citizenry from similar governmental misuse of their powers in the future.