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Can we agree that talking on a cell phone while driving should be a prison offense?
After Israel broke the cease fire they prevented the UN from bringing food supplies into Gaza. Israel had hoped to starve the population before the invasion which slaughtered 1,200 people, a third of them children, or as Boxlock refers to them, terrorists.
“ISRAEL deliberately blocked the United Nations from building up vital food supplies in Gaza that feed a million people daily before the launch of its war against Hamas, according to a senior UN official in Jerusalem.
In a scathing critique of Israeli actions leading up to the conflict, the UN’s chief humanitarian co-ordinator in Israel, the former Australian diplomat Maxwell Gaylard, accused Israel of failing to honour its commitments to open its border with Gaza during several months of truce from June 19 last year.”
More at:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/israel-kept-out-aid/2009/01/18/1232213448835.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
Obama Inaugural Cost Myth: Don’t Buy the BAd Reporting
“Did you hear that “some are saying” Barack Obama’s inauguration will cost “$160 million,” which is $100 million more than George W. Bush’s last swearing-in? That’s the tale the crew at Fox & Friends was telling on January 15. “Why does the thing have to cost so much?” demanded co-host Gretchen Carlson.
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Here’s The Washington Post from January 20, 2005, addressing the Bush bash:
The $40 million does not include the cost of a web of security, including everything from 7,000 troops to volunteer police officers from far away, to some of the most sophisticated detection and protection equipment.
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So the bottom line for Bush’s 2005 inauguration, including the cost of security? That’s right, $157 million.”
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200901170003?f=h_top
“DavidB” –
So the kids on Fox & Friends got it wrong?
They’re usually spot on.
Another Republican lie debunked, good job David. Somehow I doubt people attended in as large of numbers for Bush’s inauguration. However, I suppose he needed a lot of security for all the protesters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAp6YAPtC2c
Don’t forget we’re celebrating his inaguration this Friday at The Anchor in downtown Wichita.
Hope you all can be there!
No JWINK.
“…The Anchor in downtown Wichita…”
Broadway and Murdock? Will Nathan be there in his uniform? Will he insult Dave and Mary? We can only hope…
Jwink…I don’t think so..but I do think that an accident resulting in injuries/death caused by someone talking on a cell phone does demand a prison sentence.
Oh, crap, as the wife points out, it is time to start working on the taxes. Man, I hate doing that.
“Broadway and Murdock? Will Nathan be there in his uniform? Will he insult Dave and Mary? We can only hope…”
There is no accounting for taste..my husband actually likes Nathan. I would be very surprised if Nathan showed up…his bark is much worse than his bite.
The anchor is located on the South side of Douglas just East of Washington. Hope you can make it Steven!!
“StevenEDavis” –
Apparently “Nathaniel” is too ashamed to wear his dress blues to the Anchor.
One suspects the Marines return the compliment.
Steven I think you’re thinking of The Artichoke.
The Anchor is bigger and has better food.
“Apparently “Nathaniel” is too ashamed to wear his dress blues to the Anchor.”
He doesn’t plan to wear his uniform because he has no intention of showing up.
What am I thinking of that was at Broadway and Murdock? I know now, the Artichoke – known fondly to acoustic musicians who played there as, “the choke”. Well, it started with an “A”.
BTW, there is a good Mexican place in Hutchinson called the Anchor Inn – it is on south Main. It has some excellent Mexican food!
I see duh Libs and duh Leftists are in usual ugly mood of insulting people. Nothing like a steady diet of hate to wake a lib up in the morning eh?
Mary you beat me to it. The Artichoke was owned by some attorneys who had this way of hiding their ownership from the rumors I heard. The food there back in the 80’s was good, but it has suffered considerably since then.
Gosh, Reg, without lib hate to comment on, you’d be pretty irrelevant. Oh, I forget, you are anyway. Never mind!
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StevenEDavis
Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:13 am | Permalink
Gosh, Reg, without lib hate to comment on, you’d be pretty irrelevant. Oh, I forget, you are anyway. Never mind!
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Only in the minds of those with ego-mania problems and self-assignment of pseudo importance like yourself Davis.
Any one know the difference between Davis and crap on a sidewalk?
That’s right, you thought it first didn’t ya?
Reg..you notice that Steven doesn’t dispute your observation about early morning hate, but rather attacks you for bringing it up. And makes a personal insult in the process.
Nothing like proving your point!
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JWink
Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:02 am | Permalink
Can we agree that talking on a cell phone while driving should be a prison offense?
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Ah, trick question JWink. Prisoners don’t have cell phones.
Being insulted by a Ted Kaczynski conservative really hurts my feelings. ESAD reg, you’d being doing us and YOURSELF a favor. Or you could try hanging yourself with your dirty underwear. I wonder if anyone would bother to cut you down. Frankly, I am doubting it…
Off to work, no more time to spend with trolls like James McCluer.
Craptor,
I never bother to dispute the points of you or James. You never have any. Sorry, you are so full of it. Happy 01-20-09 to you, loser…
StevenEDavis
Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:33 am | Permalink
Being insulted by a Ted Kaczynski conservative…
Ah! Davis can’t even make good analogies. Kaczynski was about as leftist as one could get. The Unabomber is all yours Leftists.
“StevenEDavis” –
You post:
“ The Artichoke was owned by some attorneys who had this way of hiding their ownership from the rumors I heard. The food there back in the 80’s was good, but it has suffered considerably since then.”
I admit I have no legal idea about the ownership or financing behind The Artichoke Sandwich Bar, but I’ve known the guy I consider the owner for most of my life. We’re not particularly close, but attended a WSU basketball game and had dinner a couple of years ago.
The owner’s restaurant heritage is genetic. His Dad cooked the best hamburgers on Hiway 54 for about fifty years and expanded the place into a full-fledged family restaurant that was never not busy.
I was around when he opened The Artichoke. I produced his first ads and was in there when the marketing plan was implemented. Unofficially, it was called the “Lander Ballard Full-Employment Project” back in the 80s.*
Sorry to hear the consensus is the food quality has deteriorated. How is it deficient? Too skimpy? Too expensive? Not imaginative? Too “out-of-the-freezer” ordinary?
* Is Lander still performing around here? I lost track of him. But part of marketing The Artichoke back then was to secure a place where secretaries would order-in lunch… in legal offices, for BANK IV “working confrences,” etc… and inviting them to free beer at Happy Hour.
Lander would take the stage about the time drinks went back to full-price and about the time the first wave of Happy Hours would begin sifting out Lander would do his version of Richie Havens’ “Freedom” (remember the Woodstock movie?).
And he’d always break a string!
And he’d keep singing and strumming and reach into his guitar case and pull out a string and — singing and strumming — take out both ends of the broken string, install the new string, strum, and sing, and tune up the new string and finish the song and the place would go wild and everyone ordered another round.
I was never there when Lander filed away a notch in a nylon guitar string with an emery board. But I’ve heard stories.
“My Friends” always came before Last Call.
And I see ’steven’ is up to the 3rd grade tactics of making fun of names. It is truly a shame that some people just cannot seem to grow up and demonstrate even a modicum of maturity.
pathetic.
Regular, how can you assign Ted Kaczynski the label of “Liberal” and more than SED can label him a “Conservative”.
The “Conservative” label may fit better since the root “conserve” is generally accepted to mean to resit change.
I would say Kaczynski was more of an insane Luddite if anything.
HamASS started the war. They are the terrorists.
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Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:48 am | Permalink
Regular, how can you assign Ted Kaczynski the label of “Liberal” and more than SED can label him a “Conservative”.
The “Conservative” label may fit better since the root “conserve” is generally accepted to mean to resit change.
I would say Kaczynski was more of an insane Luddite if anything.
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I said Leftist not Liberal.
Kaczynski was as leftist as one can get. Anti-society, anti-progressive, anti-technology…etc.
If you look at the writings of Al Gore and Kaczynski, one cannot tell them apart.
What does that say about either one of them?
Scary huh?
Now you’re just posting stuid stuff Regular.
How is: “Anti-society, anti-progressive, anti-technology” leftist?
Again, your examples still sound very “Conservative” to me.
Um.. Al Gore / Ted Kaczynski.. can any comparison be tortured more than this one?
DavidB, look who it’s coming from.
Blaidd_Drwg69 posted January 19, 2009 at 8:37 am
Now you’re just posting stupid stuff Regular.
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That’s what “Kansas values” usually posts. And lies. Or the occasional false fictional paragraph, to support his lies. Or a Wichita street closure report.
When trolls like “Kansas values” Regular are hungry and/or lonely, they post stupid stuff.
Some writings from the Theodore Kaczynski (the Unabomber) and Al Gore. Who can tell the difference?
“All pre-industrial societies were predominantly rural. The Industrial Revolution vastly increased the size of cities and the proportion of the population that lives in them, and modern agricultural technology has made it possible for the Earth to support a far denser population than it ever did before.” Gore
“Modern industrial civilization, as presently organized, is colliding violently with our planet’s ecological system. The ferocity of its assault on the earth is breathtaking, and the horrific consequences are occurring so quickly as to defy our capacity to recognize them, comprehend their global implications, and organize an appropriate and timely response. Isolated pockets of resistance fighters who have experienced this juggernaut at first hand have begun to fight back in inspiring but, in the final analysis, woefully inadequate ways.” Unabomber
“And tragically, since the onset of the scientific and technological revolution, it has become all too easy for ultrarational minds to create an elaborate edifice of clockwork efficiency capable of nightmarish cruelty on an industrial scale. The atrocities of Hitler and Stalin, and the mechanical sins of all who helped them, might have been inconceivable except for the separation of facts from values and knowledge from morality.” Gore
“The modern individual on the other hand is threatened by many things against which he is helpless: nuclear accidents, carcinogens in food, environmental pollution, war, increasing taxes, invasion of his privacy by large organizations, and nationwide social or economic phenomena that may disrupt his way of life.” Unabomber
You are truly a sick individual Regular.
It’s so very easy for you to call names and label people isn’t Blaidd_Drwg69?
Weakness of mind, weakness of character – these are your “prized possessions” Blaidd_Drwg69.
“Kansas values” Regular hates environmentalists, and hates the idea of a more sustainable lifestyle on our Earth.
And Regular loves to take quotes out of context.
cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 9:07 am | Permalink
“Kansas values” Regular hates environmentalists, and hates the idea of a more sustainable lifestyle on our Earth.
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Actually cosmos, I’ve had the title of Environmental Consultant as one of my job titles. (responsible for monitoring air and water pollution)
Can you make the same claim?
Egyptian Cleric Wagdi Ghneim:
Muslim Clerics Should Lead the Nation in Jihad
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/1985.htm?auth=9bb2817b832387add01a94b6e064b401
The angel of the LORD also said to her [ Hagar ] “You are now with child and you will have a son .. You shall name him Ishmael [ father of the Arabs ] for the LORD has heard of your misery . . . He will be a wild donkey of a man .. his hand will be against everyone .. and everyone’s hand against him .. and he will live in hostility .. toward all his brothers” . . . . Genesis 16
RE: “It’s so very easy for you to call names and label people isn’t Blaidd_Drwg69?”
Sniff, sniff… I think I smell a hypocrite. Yup, I do……….phew………
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gster
Posted January 19, 2009 at 9:13 am | Permalink
RE: “It’s so very easy for you to call names and label people isn’t Blaidd_Drwg69?”
Sniff, sniff… I think I smell a hypocrite. Yup, I do……….phew………
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Sniff, sniff…You just labeled yourself a hypocrite by your statement.
“Kansas values” Regular has an old Industrial Hygiene engineering degree.
Regular was “responsible for monitoring air and water pollution”, to allow companies to pollute up to the maximum allowed limits.
Regular’s motto was/is: ‘Dilution is the solution to pollution!’
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink
“Kansas values” Regular has an old Industrial Hygiene engineering degree.
Regular was “responsible for monitoring air and water pollution”, to allow companies to pollute up to the maximum allowed limits.
Regular’s motto was/is: ‘Dilution is the solution to pollution!’
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Wrong again cosmos.
I worked for the enforcing agencies in those cases. You know, those who enforce environmental regulations?
Occasionally, I did work for companies that had safety issues and need to comply with State/Federal/Industry standards. Those were usually physical or electrical hazards. Occasionally chemical if they needed help with HAZMAT or MSDS databases.
Be very afraid. We are in the last days on this good earth per one of Cosmos best buddies. He has a lot of respect for Hansen.
“Barack Obama has only four years to save the world. That is the stark assessment of Nasa scientist and leading climate expert Jim Hansen who last week warned only urgent action by the new president could halt the devastating climate change that now threatens Earth. Crucially, that action will have to be taken within Obama’s first administration, he added.
Soaring carbon emissions are already causing ice-cap melting and threaten to trigger global flooding, widespread species loss and major disruptions of weather patterns in the near future. “We cannot afford to put off change any longer,” said Hansen. “We have to get on a new path within this new administration. We have only four years left for Obama to set an example to the rest of the world. America must take the lead.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/18/jim-hansen-obama
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Scientist all over answer him:
“If you’re wondering why North America is starting to resemble nuclear winter, then you missed the news.
At December’s U.N. Global Warming conference in Poznan, Poland, 650 of the world’s top climatologists stood up and said man-made global warming is a media generated myth without basis. Said climatologist Dr. David Gee, Chairman of the International Geological Congress, “For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming?”
http://www.mlive.com/opinion/flint/index.ssf/2009/01/its_time_to_pray_for_global_wa.html
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And the beat goes on!
And even more good news:
“This is where the looney left gets lost. Their mantra is atmospheric CO2 levels are escalating and this is unquestionably causing earth’s temperature rise. But ask yourself — if global temperatures are experiencing the biggest sustained drop in decades, while CO2 levels continue to rise — how can it be true?
Ironically, in spite of being shown false, we must now pray for it. Because a massive study, just released by the Russian Government, contains overwhelming evidence that earth is on the verge of another Ice Age.
Based on core samples from Russia’s Vostok Station in Antarctica, we now know earth’s atmosphere and temperature for the last 420,000 years. This evidence suggests that the 12,000 years of warmth we call the Holocene period is over.
Apparently, we’re headed into an ice age of about 100,000 years — give or take. As for CO2 levels, core samples show conclusively they follow the earth’s temperature rise, not lead it.
It turns out CO2 fluctuations follow the change in sea temperature. As water temperatures rise, oceans release additional dissolved CO2 — like opening a warm brewsky.”
At last Cosmos you can rest. The world has been saved. But you had better start stocking on longjohns. You will need them in the immediate future.
Regular posted January 19, 2009 at 9:20 am
I worked for the enforcing agencies in those cases. You know, those who enforce environmental regulations?
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Regular,
Thank you for proving my earlier point was accurate.
Regular was “responsible for monitoring air and water pollution”, to allow companies to pollute up to the maximum allowed limits.
Regular’s motto is: ‘Dilution is the solution to pollution!’
okobserver,
You should try to learn the basics about climate science. Especially since you are a “grandma”.
BTW: The rumour is that carbon cap-and-trade is too slow, so carbon taxes will be implemented.
Cosmos since we know nothing about you other than what you post. I can only assume you are a person easily led and duped by many.
The evidence is very clear. The core samples paint the picture. You can’t argue with facts so you try to turn it back to my compentcy. Wrong.
The facts speak for themselves. I am not relevant. I am only the messenger. Have a good day and enjoy the sunshine.
Relax cosMo, the earth is cooling and you can give praise to Algore and his disciple Hansen for saving the world from global warming. Just like God, all they had to do was speak and the world obeyed.
Now go back to your editor and find some other crusade to write about.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink
Regular posted January 19, 2009 at 9:20 am
I worked for the enforcing agencies in those cases. You know, those who enforce environmental regulations?
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Regular,
Thank you for proving my earlier point was accurate.
Regular was “responsible for monitoring air and water pollution”, to allow companies to pollute up to the maximum allowed limits.
Regular’s motto is: ‘Dilution is the solution to pollution!’
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Wrong again cosmos…
Companies were fined, instructed, given penalties if they fell outside the standards represented by the samples we submitted.
You think Environmentalism is talking out of your backside about problems you have no clue about.
The real Environmentalists take care of nature, man and the earth. That’s what I did and others do.
We didn’t flap our lips hoping it to get it done, we got it done.
okobserver,
The “opinion” of a local conservative columnist for The Flint Journal is NOT a reliable, accurate source for climate science.
But since he writes what okobserver wants to read, I guess that she believes that he is 100% accurate.
okobserver is 100% convinced that all of the worlds top climate scientist are wrong about AGW, and that she is right.
okobserver is so convinced, she is willing to bet the future of her grandkids on it. And her great-grandkids. And her great-great-grand kids, and her . . .
“Because we don’t think about future generations, they will never forget us.” Henrik Tikkanen
Another platitude from cosmos.
cosmos is not a scientist.
Regular posted January 19, 2009 at 9:51 am
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink
Regular posted January 19, 2009 at 9:20 am
I worked for the enforcing agencies in those cases. You know, those who enforce environmental regulations?
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Regular,
Thank you for proving my earlier point was accurate.
Regular was “responsible for monitoring air and water pollution”, to allow companies to pollute up to the maximum allowed limits.
Regular’s motto is: ‘Dilution is the solution to pollution!’
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Wrong again cosmos…
Companies were fined, instructed, given penalties if they fell outside the standards represented by the samples we submitted.
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Right. . . that’s what I said earlier.
Regular allowed “companies to pollute up to the maximum allowed limits”.
If the companies exceeded those limits, then Regular was involved in the process that caused companies to be “fined, instructed, given penalties”.
Is your blood sugar low, Regular? You don’t seem to thinking clearly.
okobserver,
Since you are interested in ice cores, you should read,
Chapter 6 Palaeoclimate
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
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JWink
Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:02 am | Permalink
Can we agree that talking on a cell phone while driving should be a prison offense?
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Well, no.
It shouldn’t be against the law to talk on a cell phone while driving.
The people that get in accidents for inattentive driving will always be with us. There’s already ordinances for inattentive driving.
Just like Algore who has a house with a carbon footprint of 20 homes, cosMo is probably all talk and no show.
Just like Regular, I have done more to reduce pollution than cosMo could ever think about. I have done consulting work on projects ranging from wind generator farms, geothermal heating/cooling systems, sewage treatment facilities, groundwater monitoring and cleanup to name just a few.
What have you done cosMo to practice what you preach?
donndublin,
Thanks for being predictable. Al Gore’s LEED standard home, and your consulting work, do NOT refute the AGW theory. Try again.
What kind of BS source is mediamatters.com?
ROFLMAO!
Once again cosMo proves he is a hypocrite. All talk and no show. He attacks those who is blasphemous to his god Algore.
Praise be.
who are = who is
“Al Gore’s LEED standard home” = more talk and no show.
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/06/al_gores_carbon.html
Well there is no science in it but it is still interesting.
“44% Say Global Warming Due To Planetary Trends, Not People”
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/issues2/articles/44_say_global_warming_due_to_planetary_trends_not_people
donndublin,
Your predictable straw-man and ad hominem trolling is very boring.
BTW: When comparing home energy usage, you have to do it after the work is completed, and also include variables such as different weather during the 2 periods.
Al Gore, Author, Nobel Prize Winner, former Vice-President of the USA. Winner of the popular vote over Bush 2 elections ago…
Whipping boy for wing-nuts when they got nothing better to do.
Mary–
I can’t take The Anchor. They’ve got the music cranked so damn loud, I can’t hear somebody talk if they were shouting into my ear.
I do have a question for you though: why is it that
1. the Libs always get together and the CONs never do and
2. why do the CONs always want to crash our meet-ups.
If the CONs want to have a meet-up, I’ll be sure to avoid it — no worries for them there . . .
JJ–
If mediamatters is so obviously BS, then it should be easy to prove them wrong.
Go for it, dude.
And now, a heartfelt message of farewell to our outgoing president from his pals at DemocraticUnderground–
Dear soon-to-be-ex-pResident Bush,
As you crawl back to Texas in disgrace may I just say on behalf of everyone who was lucky enough to survive the eight long, miserable years of your twisted, planet-f ucking maladministration, a very sincere and heartfelt “Go screw yourself.”
Please, don’t let the White House door hit you in the ass and propel your pathetic face into the gravel one last time on your way out.
Yours,
– DU Administrators
******
Thank God and Greyhound, he’s gone.
A friend of mine who is committed to lurking this forum and never post e-mailed me –
“Nathan won’t show up in uniform because he can’t carry a concealed weapon in his Marine tunic.”
I hadn’t thought of that.
Makes sense, though.
(heh heh)
“CapnAmerica” says –
“Thank God and Greyhound, he’s gone.
Does anyone know just how Shrub will return to Texas?
On Air Force One?
Actually, according to the Secret Service, any airplane a sitting president flies on is called “One,” just has his helicopter is Marine One.
The president’s usual aircraft would be “Air Force Whatever” if the ousted president were given one last perk of office on his flight back to the Lone Star State.
But your reference to that old country song makes some sense.
Instead of flying him back to Crawford (and, I suppose, dropping Laura off at her retirement home in Dallas), they should give him a Greyhound ticket.
Like another country song says,
“Don’t let the screen door hit ya
Where Mother Nature split ya.”
Hud posted January 19, 2009 at 11:03 am
Well there is no science in it but it is still interesting.
“44% Say Global Warming Due To Planetary Trends, Not People”
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That’s because:
1) Fossil-energy and right-wing groups have been spreading falsehoods about AGW since the 1980’s.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/global-warming-skeptic.html
2) There are many lazy, gullible, and blinded-by-ideology people who prefer to believe lies about AGW, instead of the science.
Re: Bush leaves office tomorrow
Free at last . . .
Free at last . . .
Thank GOD ALMIGHTY
We’re FREE AT LAST!
c_o
Did you know that the word “gullible” is not even in the dictionary?
Good news!
“President Bush commutes prison sentences of two former border patrol agents convicted of shooting drug smuggler.”
I see that Bush Commuted the sentence of the 2 border guards but didn’t have the balls to give them a full pardon
Outlander, it was a Bush Appointee and personal friend who put the 2 border guards in prison in the first place
The president’s usual aircraft would be “Air Force Whatever” if the ousted president were given one last perk of office on his flight back to the Lone Star State.
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“ousted president”?
oust (oust)
tr.v. oust·ed, oust·ing, ousts
1. To eject from a position or place; force out:
2. To take the place of, especially by force; supplant. See Synonyms at eject.
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It is apparently really hard for the left to deal with the realization that Bush never lost, was never ousted.
He beat them every time.
Good luck to President Obama. He appears to be charting a center course so far that might just promote some unity despite the wacko left’s intentions.
CJM,
No. . . but I do know that you are a dumb troll.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gullible
cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:18 pm | Permalink
CJM,
No. . . but I do know that you are a dumb troll.
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That hurts…especially from someone that was “gullible” enough to look up the word.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
c_o
You just made my day…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“CapnAmerica” salutes the holiday with –
Bush leaves office tomorrow
Free at last . . .
Free at last . . .
Thank GOD ALMIGHTY
We’re FREE AT LAST!
I prefer:
They’ve fired the s#it heard ’round the world.
And yes, “outlander.”
This nation ousted George WMD Bush in more ways than one.
The Republic Party dominated Congress and state legislators to such an extent (circa 2004, what with all that “political capital” Shrub claimed) they could have repealed term limits for the presidency. But they knew better.
George WMD Bush leaves office in utter disgrace.
Deal with it.
c_o
The definition of “gullible”: cosmos_originally
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
c_o
You should change your name to “gullible_originally” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“The Republic Party dominated Congress and state legislators to such an extent (circa 2004, what with all that “political capital” Shrub claimed) they could have repealed term limits for the presidency. But they knew better.”
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What??
Is this one of those occasions that you brag about Monkey? You know, that no one recalls but you, where you hand the “CONS” their a$$?
CJM,
Thank you for proving my point that you are a dumb troll.
ouch…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…that hurt…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
c_o
I have never claimed to be very smart…just not “gullible”…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…HA!
“A spokesman for Hamas’s armed wing, his face masked by a checkered Arab scarf, vowed it would replenish its arsenal of rockets and other weapons, in defiance of any Israeli or international efforts to cut off smuggling routes.
“Do whatever you want, bringing in and manufacturing the holy weapons is our mission, and we know how to acquire weapons,” the spokesman, Abu Ubaida, told a news conference.”
Is there any question who is responsible for the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians…..of course not.
Is there any question Israel has to defend itself and do so decisively when dealing with terroist maniacs like Hamas…..of course not.
The ‘antipathetic Maggot’ doesn’t have a grasp of reality, but what’s new.
The Eagle should have a policy that you have to be older than 11 to post here.
That would eliminate CJM.
c_o and Capn are NOT smarter than a fifth grader and they are both “gullible” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
c_o and Capn – A very wise man once said: ” Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” – Abraham Lincoln
Love you guys and thanks for reaffirming the old adage: “There’s a Sucker Born Every Minute” – David Hannum
Re: Presidential Clemency
Bush has been cautious in his use of pardon powers, and particularly careful when it comes to commutations of prison terms. A pardon is an official forgiveness of a crime (typically requested at least five years after the completion of a prison term); a commutation is a reduction of sentence.
Before Monday, Bush had granted 189 pardons and nine commutations. By comparison, President Clinton granted 396 pardons and 61 commutations, many on his last day in office. President Reagan granted 393 pardons and 13 commutations.
The White House has until noon Tuesday, when President-elect Barack Obama is to be sworn in, to grant any more clemency requests. But White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said Monday’s commutations would be Bush’s last acts of clemency.
CapnAmerica,
Why do you insist on asking such stupid rhetorical questions?
“1. the Libs always get together and the CONs never do and”
Actually, the cons do get together, we just don’t see the need of bragging about it on the blog. Why is it that you liberals feel the need to have meet ups where you don’t invite the cons but brag about the meetings which the cons were not invited to?
“2. why do the CONs always want to crash our meet-ups.”
Always? I must have missed all those meet ups of yours that were crashed or cons wanted to crash.
Why is it that you liberals love to make it an issue that you are having a meet up and that the cons are not invited?
Mary,
How late will you guys be at the party?
Remember to Pack Heat.
Legally, of course.
This nation ousted George WMD Bush in more ways than one.
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Interesting take on a president that served two full terms of office and left because of the constitutional term limits.
nitwits
I hate to break it to some of you, but there is nothing which prevents me from carrying concealed while in uniform either, if I were to attend your party in uniform.
Does the Anchor even allow CCH?
“HLP
Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink
Does the Anchor even allow CCH?”
I though everywhere was ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’
Wouldn’t it be great??? Think about it…a President forever…
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.J.Res.5:
And libdave,
about yesterday’s comment referring to the vajayjay’s that won’t defend themselves, yet want to reap the benefits of someone elses’ blood sacrifice…
If you have to ask “who in the World I’m talking to or about”…it’s you that I refer to.
Here’s some of those stupid sacrifices that let you idiot’s spout your nonsense. These fools allowed this stuff to happen to them, so you could desparage those who fought to allow you too.
I don’t bow to a uniform and never will. I’m no boot licker and am far from a goofy flag waver.
But I know the symbology. The men who fight are committed. Yeah some of them are brainwashed buffoons that just want to be tough-guys and need an adrenaline rush. But the majority do it for honor. The military has its place and although Bushco, Clinton and Obama have and will misuse it, they exist to defend us.
Unfortunately, today’s military is the bankers’ military, but the individual soldier’s still fight “for us”, I believe that. And as a side note, hopefully they won’t fire upon an American citizen, but if they do, they’ll instantly become the enemy as well. And will be dead like any enemy, foreign or domestic.
Here’s that list of dumb sacrifices:
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.
Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured.
Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they?
Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife’s bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education.
Check out http://www.teachthemscience.org and spread the word about The Clergy Letter Project and the problems arising in Texas.
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org
Earlier this month, Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y. introduced H. J. Res. 5, a bill that would repeal the Constitution’s 22nd Amendment prohibiting a president from being elected to more than two terms in office, thus potentially paving the way to make Barack Obama president for life. Not surprisingly, the corporate media — currently caught up in Obama mania — has not covered this story.
The link above didn’t cut it.
Pleefer… maybe the story hasnt been covered, because it isnt a story… Have you been drinking the reich wing kool aid again??
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Permalink
Pleefer… maybe the story hasnt been covered, because it isnt a story… Have you been drinking the reich wing kool aid again??
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Let’s see, is Chas lying or is the Library of Congress lying?
Hmmmm….Chas is lying, AGAIN!
http://thomas.loc.gov/
2. H.J.RES.5 : Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
Sponsor: Rep Serrano, Jose E. [NY-16] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Permalink
Check out http://www.teachthemscience.org and spread the word about The Clergy Letter Project and the problems arising in Texas.
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org
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Yes, please do check this out.
You’ll find a letter signed by the KOOKIEST Fringe of so-called ministers of God.
This letter was signed by a very small extremist radical fringe group who amount to LESS THEN 0.5% of the total ministers in America.
And just luckily, one of those KOOKS happens to reside on this very Blog!
Nathaniel
Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:23 pm | Permalink
I hate to break it to some of you, but there is nothing which prevents me from carrying concealed while in uniform either, if I were to attend your party in uniform.
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It’s amazing how many holster options there are to completely hide even a large 45.
My personal favorite is the Galco IWB. Others I know rave at some Texas variety that is completely hidden, even with a tucked shirt.
HLP
Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink
Does the Anchor even allow CCH?
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Concealed means concealed.
Please note: Johnson drinks the reich wing kool aid by the gallon….. when he isnt making it, that is…. LOL
Johnson, you are such a loser!!
The same Congressman (Serrano, D,NY) also introduced the following:
6. H.R.179 : To permit the use of Federal funds for syringe exchange programs for purposes of reducing the transmission of bloodborne pathogens, including HIV and viral hepatitis.
9. H.R.182 : To provide discretionary authority to an immigration judge to determine that an alien parent of a United States citizen child should not be ordered removed, deported, or excluded from the United States.
13. H.R.186 : To establish a grant program to provide screenings for glaucoma to individuals determined to be at high risk for glaucoma, and for other purposes.
14. H.R.187 : To waive certain prohibitions with respect to nationals of Cuba coming to the United States to play organized professional baseball.
15. H.R.188 : To lift the trade embargo on Cuba, and for other purposes.
Completely concealed:
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink
Please note: Johnson drinks the reich wing kool aid by the gallon….. when he isnt making it, that is…. LOL
Johnson, you are such a loser!!
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Chas, I catch you in yet another LIE, then you call me names again.
What a great lying preacher you are!
Christlike, indeed.
(Look out for that lightning bolt Chas.)
I like that Serrano… they have great baseball players in Cuba…
That amendment wont ever make it out of committee… And, most likely, Serrano wants a fully democratic congress to vote it down, so the reich wing nuts will shut up about it… Even if it did make it out of committee, it would take a long time to get it to the floor of both houses of congress, and would then need 3/4 of the States to ratify…. NO chance… NON story….
Back when Ronny of Ray Gun was Prez, some reich wingnut congressman out of Michigan tried to get a similar bill passed, so Ronny could be re-elected…. That one also failed… If Roosevelt did nothing else in his presidency, he basically made it impossible for any more Presidents to serve more than two terms… The 22nd Amendment will last for a LONG time, IMHO….
Next Chas will call me a Racist.
Socialist Democrat Defense Approach Checklist:
1. Blame Bush.
2. Label any opposition Racists for opposing Obama.
3. Blame Bush.
4. Blame Pelosi. (Obama hates women)
5. Blame Bush.
6. Blame the Jews in Israel.
7. Blame Bush.
8. Blame Global Warming.
9. Blame Bush.
10. Go back to 1 and repeat.
WHAT lie, you stupid freak?? SHOW us the lie!!
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:29 pm | Permalink
That amendment wont ever make it out of committee
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What amendment? I thought you said there wasn’t one.
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:32 pm | Permalink
WHAT lie, you stupid freak?? SHOW us the lie!!
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http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-119-3/#comment-505905
Stupid freak? Chas, if that’s true (another lie?) then you are arguing with a Stupid Freak?
Chas is a Methodist?
#
DavidB
Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:12 am | Permalink
Al Gore, Author, Nobel Prize Winner, former Vice-President of the USA. Winner of the popular vote over Bush 2 elections ago…
Whipping boy for wing-nuts when they got nothing better to do.
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Yes,
…and Al Gore is not a scientist either.
Chas LIES:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-119-3/#comment-505905
CHAS THE LIAR.
THEN HE LIES ABOUT LYING, ANOTHER LIE!
CHAS THE LIAR.
THEN HE LIES ABOUT LYING, ANOTHER LIE!
CHAS THE LIAR.
THEN HE LIES ABOUT LYING, ANOTHER LIE!
CHAS THE LIAR.
THEN HE LIES ABOUT LYING, ANOTHER LIE!
CHAS THE LIAR.
THEN HE LIES ABOUT LYING, ANOTHER LIE!
CHAS THE LIAR.
THEN HE LIES ABOUT LYING, ANOTHER LIE!
CHAS THE LIAR.
THEN HE LIES ABOUT LYING, ANOTHER LIE!
CHAS THE LIAR.
THEN HE LIES ABOUT LYING, ANOTHER LIE!
OK, JOHNSON….Here’s what I posted that YOU call a lie….
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Permalink
Pleefer… maybe the story hasnt been covered, because it isnt a story… Have you been drinking the reich wing kool aid again??
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Keyword: MAYBE….
Keyword: MAYBE….
Get it Johnson???
Now, Johnson, WHO IS LYING???
Do you think you wrote the dictionary, or what??
Keyword: MAYBE…. Remember that before you try calling me a liar again….
ANTI
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:35 pm | Permalink
Chas is a Methodist?
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A Rhythm Methodist.
How many Methodist preachers in Kansas signed The Clergy Letter?
So Chas, you admit that MAYBE you are a liar.
And maybe it’s 100 degrees today too.
Post any Obituaries lately Chas?
Johnson spews more stupidity >>>>
“What amendment? I thought you said there wasn’t one.”
NO, dimwit… I did NOT say there isnt an amendment, I said it isnt a STORY….
Johnson, why dont you go peddle your SCUM somewhere else??? Many here are tired of your TROLLING….
And not only that, I said MAYBE it isnt a story…… Guess you are just like granny goodwitch… cant read either, eh???
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
Johnson spews more stupidity >>>>
“What amendment? I thought you said there wasn’t one.”
NO, dimwit… I did NOT say there isnt an amendment, I said it isnt a STORY….
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If it’s not a story, then why are you talking about it?
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
I said it isnt a STORY….
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Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:44 pm | Permalink
And not only that, I said MAYBE it isnt a story
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Is it, or isn’t it?
No obituaries lately… However, Johnson, if you die, I would gladly post yours… LOL
Go TROLL yourself Johnson… The Blog doesnt need you anymore… You all lost… A new era starts tomorrow!! Hallelujah for that!!
Note, Chas calls me several more names.
I only labeled him a Liar after he proved himself to be one.
I only labeled him a KOOK paster after he admited belonging to a tiny fring group of ‘pastors’ who signed The Clergy Letter.
99.5% of Clergy in America does not stoop to the level of those who signed such a ridiculous letter.
And Chas, he bragged about this letter again!
Nut.
It’s time to pray for global warming, says Flint Journal columnist John Tomlinson
Oh comatose…comatose, I am laughing my a$$ off, and it’s not with you….it’s at you. Find another mantra to base your whole existence on, your AGW is dying.
“If you’re wondering why North America is starting to resemble nuclear winter, then you missed the news.
At December’s U.N. Global Warming conference in Poznan, Poland, 650 of the world’s top climatologists stood up and said man-made global warming is a media generated myth without basis. Said climatologist Dr. David Gee, Chairman of the International Geological Congress, “For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming?”
I asked myself, why would such obviously smart guy say such a ridiculous thing? But it turns out he’s right.
The earth’s temperature peaked in 1998. It’s been falling ever since; it dropped dramatically in 2007 and got worse in 2008, when temperatures touched 1980 levels.
Meanwhile, the University of Illinois’ Arctic Climate Research Center released conclusive satellite photos showing that Arctic ice is back to 1979 levels. What’s more, measurements of Antarctic ice now show that its accumulation is up 5 percent since 1980.
In other words, during what was supposed to be massive global warming, the biggest chunks of ice on earth grew larger. Just as an aside, do you remember when the hole in the ozone layer was going to melt Antarctica? But don’t worry, we’re safe now, that was the nineties.
Dr. Kunihiko, Chancellor of Japan’s Institute of Science and Technology said this: “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or the other … every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so.” Now why would a learned man say such a crazy thing?
This is where the looney left gets lost. Their mantra is atmospheric CO2 levels are escalating and this is unquestionably causing earth’s temperature rise. But ask yourself — if global temperatures are experiencing the biggest sustained drop in decades, while CO2 levels continue to rise — how can it be true?
Ironically, in spite of being shown false, we must now pray for it. Because a massive study, just released by the Russian Government, contains overwhelming evidence that earth is on the verge of another Ice Age.
Based on core samples from Russia’s Vostok Station in Antarctica, we now know earth’s atmosphere and temperature for the last 420,000 years. This evidence suggests that the 12,000 years of warmth we call the Holocene period is over.
Apparently, we’re headed into an ice age of about 100,000 years — give or take. As for CO2 levels, core samples show conclusively they follow the earth’s temperature rise, not lead it.
It turns out CO2 fluctuations follow the change in sea temperature. As water temperatures rise, oceans release additional dissolved CO2 — like opening a warm brewsky.
To think, early last year, liberals suggested we spend 45 trillion dollars and give up five million jobs to fix global warming. But there is good news: now that we don’t have to spend any of that money, we can give it all to the banks.”
http://www.mlive.com/opinion/flint/index.ssf/2009/01/its_time_to_pray_for_global_wa.html
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:49 pm | Permalink
Go TROLL yourself Johnson… The Blog doesnt need you anymore… You all lost… A new era starts tomorrow!! Hallelujah for that!!
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And here you see the Lib approach to criticism – bannish those who would speak truth to power.
The Libs will next pass the UnFairness Doctrine, to give them the legal right to stifle your 1st Amendment rights.
Next on the attack agenda: Destroy the 2nd Amendment.
Once the Libs shut-up the opposition and make them defenseless, they can do whatever they want.
JimJohnson
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
How many Methodist preachers in Kansas signed The Clergy Letter?
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I wouldnt know the answer to that question… But, the United Methodist General Conference sided with the Clergy Letter Project at their most recent meeting in 2008…. And the United Methodists are the second largest Protestant denomination in the United States….
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:52 pm | Permalink
JimJohnson
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
How many Methodist preachers in Kansas signed The Clergy Letter?
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I wouldnt know the answer to that question… But, the United Methodist General Conference sided with the Clergy Letter Project at their most recent meeting in 2008…. And the United Methodists are the second largest Protestant denomination in the United States….
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Really? So why didn’t they all jump-up and sign that letter?
One more time Johnson…
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Permalink
Pleefer… maybe the story hasnt been covered, because it isnt a story… Have you been drinking the reich wing kool aid again??
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Where is the lie, dimwit(one who isnt too bright)?
Now, if you CAN read, maybe you should retract your lies about calling ME a liar??
My prior estimates were off slightly. Here’s the exact numbers:
388,925. That’s how many clergy there were in the US in 2000, according to the US Census.
http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/broker
So, out of the total number of preachers in America, 11,800 have signed The Clergy Letter which says the Bible is fiction.
Let’s see, help me with the math here.
11,800/388,925
Why, that’s 3% of the total number of preachers in America!
WHAT? Why only 3%?
97% OF American Clergy have NOT signed The Clergy letter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, I wonder why not?
Resolutions passed by the United Methodist General Conference speak for the entire denomination.
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:58 pm | Permalink
One more time Johnson…
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Permalink
Pleefer… maybe the story hasnt been covered, because it isnt a story… Have you been drinking the reich wing kool aid again??
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Where is the lie, dimwit(one who isnt too bright)?
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But it IS a story Chas, or you wouldn’t be posting about it.
Maybe you lied or maybe you didn’t.
You’re still a liar though. We all KNOW you are a liar.
Obituary, et al.
Your posts are only worth reading for the humor that comes from watching an idiot. Your like watching Charlie Chaplin falling down.
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:03 pm | Permalink
Resolutions passed by the United Methodist General Conference speak for the entire denomination.
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Did all Methodist Preachers sign The Clergy Letter or not?
Good post Boxlock.
Going to buy more winter clothes now.
Johnson, your “census” link goes nowhere that lists anything about clergy in the US in 2000… You might want to post a link that actually proves your claim….
Chas cannot answer a yes or no question.
He’s afraid of getting caught in another lie.
For those who need their hand held:
http://www.census.gov/eeo2000/
Select: Employment by OPM Occupation Groups
Click: Next
Select: US Total
Click: Next
Select: Sort Alphabetically
Click: Sort
Select: Clergy
Scroll Down and Select: Output Options -Show Total of Selected Geographies and Occupations
Click: Display Table
Then you will see:
US Total Clergy (204)
SOC 21-2011 Total 388,925
THAT IS, 388,925 CLERGY in the USA in the year 2000.
bigotbawks posted January 19, 2009 at 2:50 pm
It’s time to pray for global warming, says Flint Journal columnist John Tomlinson
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Is that dumb “opinion” column posted at Drudge’s site?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-119-3/#comment-505766
I already answered your dumb question… I said I dont know how many United Methodist Clergy signed the Clergy Letter… Why dont you write The Clergy Letter Project, and ask them??
“Next on the attack agenda: Destroy the 2nd Amendment.”
What extraordinary and ridiculous paranoia! Is this what is known as “projection”?
Please notice that Johnson has now changed his “census” link…. As noted earlier, the first one went nowhere…. The first link said:
SAS/IntrNet Application Dispatcher
Application Broker Version 9.1 (Build 1461)
Application Dispatcher Administration
SAS/IntrNet Samples
SAS/IntrNet Documentation – requires Internet access
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Now, Johnson… would that huge number you list be clergy in local church pulpits, or would that include ALL clergy, such as those who are professors, or counselors, or chaplains of all varieties, and those who are clergy, but no longer serving in sacerdotal functions???
Be specific…
U. S. Senate Minority Report:
More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
Scientists Continue to Debunk “Consensus” in 2008
Update: December 22, 2008: 11 More Scientists Join Senate Report
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2674e64f-802a-23ad-490b-bd9faf4dcdb7
Over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore. This new 231-page U.S. Senate Minority Report — updated from 2007’s groundbreaking report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about the so-called global warming “consensus” — features the skeptical voices of over 650 prominent international scientists, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN IPCC. This updated report includes an additional 250 (and growing) scientists and climate researchers since the initial release in December 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.
The chorus of skeptical scientific voices grow louder in 2008 as a steady stream of peer-reviewed studies, analyses, real world data and inconvenient developments challenged the UN’s and former Vice President Al Gore’s claims that the “science is settled” and there is a “consensus.” On a range of issues, 2008 proved to be challenging for the promoters of man-made climate fears. Promoters of anthropogenic warming fears endured the following: Global temperatures failing to warm; Peer-reviewed studies predicting a continued lack of warming; a failed attempt to revive the discredited “Hockey Stick”; inconvenient developments and studies regarding rising CO2; the Spotless Sun; Clouds; Antarctica; the Arctic; Greenland’s ice; Mount Kilimanjaro; Global sea ice; Causes of Hurricanes; Extreme Storms; Extinctions; Floods; Droughts; Ocean Acidification; Polar Bears; Extreme weather deaths; Frogs; lack of atmospheric dust; Malaria; the failure of oceans to warm and rise as predicted.
In addition, the following developments further secured 2008 as the year the “consensus” collapsed. Russian scientists “rejected the very idea that carbon dioxide may be responsible for global warming”. An American Physical Society editor conceded that a “considerable presence” of scientific skeptics exists. An International team of scientists countered the UN IPCC, declaring: “Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate”. India Issued a report challenging global warming fears. International Scientists demanded the UN IPCC “be called to account and cease its deceptive practices,” and a canvass of more than 51,000 Canadian scientists revealed 68% disagree that global warming science is “settled.”
This new report issued by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee’s office of the GOP Ranking Member is the latest evidence of the growing groundswell of scientific opposition challenging significant aspects of the claims of the UN IPCC and Al Gore. Scientific meetings are now being dominated by a growing number of skeptical scientists. The prestigious International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists’ equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Norway in August 2008 and prominently featured the voices of scientists skeptical of man-made global warming fears. [See: Skeptical scientists overwhelm conference: '2/3 of presenters and question-askers were hostile to, even dismissive of, the UN IPCC."]
Hey comatose, this pony is dead, what other tricks can you do?
LOL!
Now, Chas . . . when you list the total number of ‘clergy’ that have signed ‘The Clergy Letter’ would that insignificant number you list be clergy in local church pulpits, or would that include ALL clergy, such as those who are professors, or counselors, or chaplains of all varieties, and those who are clergy, but no longer serving in sacerdotal functions???
Be specific…
Hank… many times you are just a buffoon… Other times obnoxious… Sometimes, just plain dumb…
Please note… I never said how many clergy signed the Clergy Letter….
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:18 pm | Permalink
I already answered your dumb question… I said I dont know how many United Methodist Clergy signed the Clergy Letter… Why dont you write The Clergy Letter Project, and ask them??
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Your ‘answer’ at 3:03 was:
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:03 pm | Permalink
Resolutions passed by the United Methodist General Conference speak for the entire denomination.
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Your ‘answer’ at 3:18 was “I already answered your dumb question… I said I dont know how many United Methodist Clergy signed the Clergy Letter…”
Can’t answer, because you know they didn’t sign that stupid letter.
You weasel out of yes/no questions like Clinton questioning the definition of the word “is”.
And you lie too.
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:37 pm | Permalink
Hank… many times you are just a buffoon… Other times obnoxious… Sometimes, just plain dumb…
Please note… I never said how many clergy signed the Clergy Letter….
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It’s in the link you posted above dumbsiht.
And Chas has the audacity to question the US Government Census bureau as to what the definition of “Clergy” is.
Of all people who should know….
bigotbawks posted January 19, 2009 at 3:31 pm
U. S. Senate Minority Report:
More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
. . .
Hey comatose, this pony is dead, . . .
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Yes bigotbawks, Morano’s bogus ‘650′ list was “dead on arrival”. It’s just some add-ons to his DOA ‘400′ list.
In checking my email files, Hank, I find that it seems that those signing the Clergy Letter are serving in congregations…
However, it would seem any clergy who are so inclined, can also sign it, if they want to do so…
The organization exists primarily for clergy serving local churches/synagogues in the USA, and I believe Canada as well…
Johnson… the Census bureau doesnt define clergy on its list… Clergy come in all kinds of variables… which makes the entire category somewhat bogus, since it has no definable parameters…
So . . .Chas,
If we got all the Wichita ministers that signed ‘The Clergy Letter’ together would there be enough for a game of bridge?
I doubt it.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/protests-mark-bushs-last-day-in-office-20090120-7kzf.html
Source: Sydney Mourning Herald
Anti-war protesters have thrown shoes outside the gates of the White House on President George W Bush’s last day in office.
About 500 people marched to the White House and threw about 40 pairs of shoes at the gate while tourists looked on and took photos.
Supporters said they were acting in solidarity with Muntadhar al-Zeidi, the Iraqi reporter who threw his shoes at Bush during a news conference in Baghdad in December.
The event was sponsored by the Washington Peace Centre, the local chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War and other groups.
Organiser Jamilla El-Shafei said on Monday that the event allowed protesters to express their anger over Bush, who she said was “leaving with no accountability for eviscerating our constitution”.
Bush is literally getting “shoed” out of office.
Perfect.
In checking my email files, Hank, I find that it seems that those signing the Clergy Letter are serving in congregations…
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Why don’t you check the list of actual signers in Kansas? I did a while back. Seems to be a lot of academic left-wing nitwits on the list. I believe quite a few of them are without congregations.
Supporters said they were acting in solidarity with Muntadhar al-Zeidi, …Organiser Jamilla El-Shafei
Chuckle…
DavidB
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:21 pm | Permalink
“Next on the attack agenda: Destroy the 2nd Amendment.”
What extraordinary and ridiculous paranoia! Is this what is known as “projection”?
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No David. Remember, several gun-ban Bills have been introduced this month – and you were linked to them yesterday.
Did you forget already?
Say, Johnson… Where does the Census Bureau list those Pastors who might work for Cessna, or Beechcraft during the week, but yet serve a small congregation on weekends??
They are typically known as bi-vocational, or in some denominaations they are known as “tentmakers”.
Where would the census list such persons?? Since you pretend to know all about the clergy listed on the Census Bureau, why dont you tell us??
Nathan writes, Actually, the cons do get together, we just don’t see the need of bragging about it on the blog. </i?
Of course that’s true, if you count Klan rallies and Skinhead raves etc. . . . They generally do tend to want to keep those quiet.
You bet its projection, DavidB… Projection of a total blank, on a blank wall… LOL
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:43 pm | Permalink
Johnson… the Census bureau doesnt define clergy on its list… Clergy come in all kinds of variables… which makes the entire category somewhat bogus, since it has no definable parameters…
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Right. And the Clergy who signed your Clergy Letter also come in all kinds of variables. So if the census number is bogus, so is the number of Clergy who signed your Clergy Letter.
HLP
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:43 pm | Permalink
So . . .Chas,
If we got all the Wichita ministers that signed ‘The Clergy Letter’ together would there be enough for a game of bridge?
I doubt it.
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Of course not. I didn’t post those names here so as not to expose anybody, although Chas has already bragged about being one of the signers and posted a link to the signers even.
Oh yea, would the Census clergy list also include cloistered monks?? There are still some of those around…
And would the list include licensed lay ministers, and deacons(UMC, Lutheran, Episcopal),
or would it just list ordained clergy??
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:54 pm | Permalink
Oh yea, would the Census clergy list also include cloistered monks?? There are still some of those around…
And would the list include licensed lay ministers, and deacons(UMC, Lutheran, Episcopal),
or would it just list ordained clergy??
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Gosh Chas, did YOU lie to the US Census Bureau and list your occupation as “Clergy”?
Johnson, I dont think you could expose anybody if you wanted… Those names arent available… idiot…
I’m surprised that any clergy would call the Bible “fiction.”
It attempts to explain what can’t be fully explained–the ineffable nature of God–to the human mind.
In that sense, it’s truer than true.
The Book of Job for instance is kind of ridiculous if you take it seriously. Sure, his wife died and he lost everything, but he got a new wife! as if that could make up for the devastating loss.
Obviously, that isn’t the message. Nor is the message that God lets the Devil screw with you just to settle a bet.
It’s a parable of faithfulness.
It’s truer than mere truth–it carries the essence of truth for all time and all people.
I would HOPE most people didn’t LIE to the US Government Census Bureau and fraudulently list themselves as “Clergy” when they are not.
There’s a big fine for Lying to the US Government Census Bureau.
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink
Johnson, I dont think you could expose anybody if you wanted… Those names arent available… idiot…
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Actually, they are….HAHAHAHAHA!
NO, Johnson… I didnt have to lie about being clergy… because I AM clergy… and you know, what you post here about it makes not one bit of difference… since facts are facts, and when you challenge my vocation, you are not just lying, you are denegrating any clergy who post here… But I know you dont care about that, because all you care about is your guns… Go play with your guns Johnson… remember to leave them unloaded, unless you have an adult with you for safety….
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink
Johnson, I dont think you could expose anybody if you wanted… Those names arent available… idiot…
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You said YOU signed the Clergy letter Chas. Did you lie about that too?
The names of the signors are listed on the web site link YOU provided.
Is your name NOT there? If not, then YOU didn’t sign it and you lied about that.
If your name is there on that list, then you lied at 3:56 when you said “Those names arent available”.
Either way,
YOU
LIE!
Johnson, I think you should prove your bogus claim that the namnes of those who signed the Clergy Letter are listed… I know the guy who runs the program, and I have never seen the names…
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:58 pm | Permalink
“you are not just lying, you are denegrating any clergy who post here”
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OMG! WHERE IS NATHAN WHEN I NEED HIM???
LOL!!!!!
CHAS says I am the one denegrating clergy!!!!
Johnson, the whole Blog knows you are nothing but a lying piece of pelosi…. You just might want to quit while you can…
Some gun registration laws have been proposed, JJ.
Nobody has proposed banning guns that I’m aware of, although certainly the .50 caliber mini-cannon that can bring down a jetliner at 5 miles would be a good start.
I own more than a half dozen guns, and I support the idea of registration. I register my car, my boat, my bicycle, and even my dog. The idea that a lethal weapon should be exempt is absurd.
Also, if my guns are stolen, it should be immediately reported to law enforcement and a national clearing center. None of my guns are very well suited for criminal activity, but nonetheless, anything that discourages gun crime and makes it easier to prosecute criminals who use guns is a good thing.
JimmyBoy–
Pipe down.
I have met Chas on several occasions and I can tell you without doubt or reservation that he is indeed a clergyman.
So have several other bloggers (met him): CF2K, StevenDavis and BlueJay.
We await your apology.
Nathan, btw, is not a member of the clergy.
Although he plays one on this Blog . . .
Johnson falsely claims that the Clergy Letter believes the Bible is fiction…. Here is some proof that Johnson LIES again….
We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist.
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org
Thanks CapN…
Ok… I found the list of Signers on the Clergy Letter…. And, wait for it… my name is on the list!!
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:18 pm | Permalink
Ok… I found the list of Signers on the Clergy Letter…. And, wait for it… my name is on the list!!
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Yes Chas, we already knew that.
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:01 pm | Permalink
Johnson, I think you should prove your bogus claim that the namnes of those who signed the Clergy Letter are listed… I know the guy who runs the program, and I have never seen the names…
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From your link posted below:
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Permalink
Check out http://www.teachthemscience.org and spread the word about The Clergy Letter Project and the problems arising in Texas.
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org
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The alphabetical links below will take you to the names of endorsers whose last names start with the letter of the link you choose.
A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z |
Number of Listings by State
mz@butler.edu listing the following information:
Your name and title
Affilitation / Church (optional)
City and State
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:18 pm | Permalink
Ok… I found the list of Signers on the Clergy Letter…. And, wait for it… my name is on the list!!
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So you lied when you said the names were not available.
CapnAmerica
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Permalink
I own more than a half dozen guns, and I support the idea of registration. I register my car, my boat, my bicycle, and even my dog. The idea that a lethal weapon should be exempt is absurd.
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If you don’t recognize the difference between guns and your cars, boats, bikes, and dogs, then there is no helping you.
From your own link Chas, you forgot this part of your Clergy letter that says the Bible is a story not to be taken literally, and that it must be “Intpreted” for those too stupid to understand it’s meaning.
Thus, through your “interpretations”, you can make the Bible say whatever YOU want it to say, such as:
1. Being homosexual is not an abomination.
2. Killing babies before birth is OK.
“Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement, including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture. While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice, the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally, as they would a science textbook. Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God, human beings, and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation. Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth. Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts.”
“interpreted”
Yep… but not reading the Bible literally is a far cry from Johnson’s previous LIE that the clergy letter says the Bible is fiction…
BTW, I didnt know that zimmerman added a list of signers…. Call me a liar if it makes you feel better…. but, I didnt know that was there…. sorry!!
ANTI — There are over 11,000 names on the list of Signers… and, you still dont have the foggiest idea which one of those is mine… and so it will remain…. :-)
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:35 pm | Permalink
Yep… but not reading the Bible literally is a far cry from Johnson’s previous LIE that the clergy letter says the Bible is fiction…
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Really?
If it’s not fiction, then why can’t you read it literally Chas?
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:35 pm | Permalink
BTW, I didnt know that zimmerman added a list of signers…. Call me a liar if it makes you feel better…. but, I didnt know that was there…. sorry!!
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I’ll just consider that you were Wrong then, and not a liar, in this case.
Go back to your bridge TROLL…. Your question isnt even worthy of an answer…
‘Survey: Scientists Agree Human-Induced Global Warming is Real‘
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/548192/
“Nathaniel
Posted January 18, 2009 at 2:35 pm | Permalink
Mary,
Talk to Linda.”
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I have never been afraid of any child, no matter how ill behaved they are. That includes you, Nathaniel.
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:37 pm | Permalink
ANTI — There are over 11,000 names on the list of Signers… and, you still dont have the foggiest idea which one of those is mine… and so it will remain…. :-)
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(Pssst….Chas, it lists your names & addresses, so you can see all the preachers in any given city and state, if you just look.)
Johnson… YOU made the claim that the Clergy Letter says the Bible is fiction… That is a LIE, since the Clergy Letter says no such thing….
Deal with it… you lied… and you have done it more than once on this issue….
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink
Go back to your bridge TROLL…. Your question isnt even worthy of an answer…
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No, you can’t answer.
You can’t explain how you proclaim the word of god in some verses, and deny his word in others.
Reg… we all know YOU are a liar… and once again you prove it well…. LOL
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:42 pm | Permalink
Johnson… YOU made the claim that the Clergy Letter says the Bible is fiction… That is a LIE, since the Clergy Letter says no such thing….
Deal with it… you lied… and you have done it more than once on this issue….
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I posted the letter you signed Chas.
Deal with it yourself.
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Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:44 pm | Permalink
Reg… we all know YOU are a liar… and once again you prove it well…. LOL
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Eh?
The name is from the link YOU PROVIDED.
Go check it for yourself, you will find the name.
Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:44 pm | Permalink
Reg… we all know YOU are a liar… and once again you prove it well…. LOL
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Of course you can’t, or won’t prove him a liar in this case.
That wasn’t very nice Regular.
I said it wasn’t very nice.
I didn’t say that I didn’t find it interesting.
cosmos_originally Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:40 pm
‘Survey: Scientists Agree Human-Induced Global Warming is Real‘
It’s a dead pony, and now it’s starting to rot.
Boxlock20
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink
cosmos_originally Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:40 pm
‘Survey: Scientists Agree Human-Induced Global Warming is Real‘
It’s a dead pony, and now it’s starting to rot.
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Even the flies died long ago….
crickets chirping
Regular
Posted January 19, 2009 at 5:10 pm | Permalink
crickets chirping
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Time-out for an OHHHHHHHHHHH SHHHHHIIIIIIITTTTTT!!! moment.
Perhaps the Clergy Letter program wasn’t accepting signatories from the ‘Bahamian Correspondence School of Clergy”?
or the
“West Favorita Pastor by Mail Program”?
hehehehe
I know!
Chas,
Congratulations for keeping JimJohnson and republiCONs here very busy doing nothing.
So cosmos, tell us about your experiences of having a PhD in climate science.
Wait, never mind, you don’t have a PhD in climate science.
My bad!
Hey “Kansas values” Regular!
Use your moldy old Industrial Hygiene degree to find your (non-existent) links proving your (false) claim that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees.
Regular is a liar.
“A liar is not believed even when he speaks the truth.” Aesop.
Chas, yooo funny.
I drink the “reich wing kool-aid” to wash the left wing bovine scat down. It helps to cancel each other out.
mmmmm, it’s tasty by God.
So cosmos, just what are your qualifications in climate science?
Have you ‘torn apart’ a carburetor to find how it consumes gas and then wrote a paper on it on how it contributes to Global Warming?
cosmos, what research papers have you submitted that are peer reviewed by IPCC scientists?
Regular,
Remember posting this when I put links to articles about bjb (found using his own website as linked in his posting name):
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/can-retailers-require-you-to-show-the-receipt/#comment-503696
“Regular
Posted January 14, 2009 at 9:59 pm | Permalink
…Boy, you are one nasty piece of work that will stoop to any level.
How about let’s put every sordid detail of your life on the blog?”
You are quite the hypocrite
In McCain Country, Acceptance of Obama
In Oklahoma, where not a single county voted Obama, attitudes about his presidency are now softening. “I’ve come to think the better man won,” said Leonard Nelson.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/us/politics/20tulsa.html?_r=1&hp
Interesting read…
Looks like the dick dueling continues… goodbye…..
HLP
Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:43 pm | Permalink
So . . .Chas,
If we got all the Wichita ministers that signed ‘The Clergy Letter’ together would there be enough for a game of bridge?
I doubt it.
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Guess you answered your own question, eh??
LOL — You might want to get your facts line up before you make stupid posts like this one… ID 10 T
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink
‘Survey: Scientists Agree Human-Induced Global Warming is Real‘
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/548192/
__________________
This survey was done by University of Illinois Chicago which also employs terrorist Bill Ayers.
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 19, 2009 at 5:48 pm | Permalink
Regular,
Remember posting this when I put links to articles about bjb (found using his own website as linked in his posting name):
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/can-retailers-require-you-to-show-the-receipt/#comment-503696
“Regular
Posted January 14, 2009 at 9:59 pm | Permalink
…Boy, you are one nasty piece of work that will stoop to any level.
How about let’s put every sordid detail of your life on the blog?”
You are quite the hypocrite
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No I’m not.
The Libs on this blog have already posted my real name, my address, my email, my sisters name, the Websites I visit and etc.
What about that makes me a hypocrite when your buddies have done it first without cause?
They should have been banned for it and weren’t.
Shows you how corrupt, narrow minded and bias that Phillip Brownlee is for Libs.
And how two-faced the Libs are when it comes to revealing everything about me, but nothing about themselves.
Cowards, each and everyone.
So Chas, did you sign the letter or not? I checked all faiths and there was only one ‘Charles’ from Wichita, KS.
You said you signed the letter.
So which is?
Did you sign it or not?
You said your name is on the list.
So which is it? Is your name on the list or not?
FLORIDA COURT SETS ATHEIST HOLY DAY
In Florida , an atheist created a case against the upcoming Easter and
Passover holy days. He hired an attorney to bring a discrimination case
against Christians, Jews and observances of their holy days. The argument
was that it was unfair that atheists had no such recognized days.
The case was brought before a judge. After listening to the passionate
presentation by the lawyer, the judge banged his gavel declaring,
“Case dismissed!”
The lawyer immediately stood objecting to the ruling saying, “Your
honor, how can you possibly dismiss this case? The Christians have Christmas,
Easter and others. The Jews have Passover, Yom Kippur and Hanukkah,
yet my client and all other atheists have no such holidays.”
The judge leaned forward in his chair saying, “But you do.
Your client, counsel, is woefully ignorant.”
The lawyer said, “Your Honor, we are unaware of any special
observance or holiday for atheists.”
The judge said, “The calendar says April 1st is April Fools Day.
Psalm 14:1 states, ‘The fool says in his heart, there is no God.’
Thus, it is the opinion of this court, that if your client says there is no God,
then he is a fool. Therefore, April 1st is his day. Court is adjourned.”
________________________________________________
And so it goes…..
Heh, heh, heh.
“Kansas values” Regular,
Why are you so “slow”? Low blood sugar? Your recent stroke?
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:48 pm | Permalink
“Kansas values” Regular,
Why are you so “slow”? Low blood sugar? Your recent stroke?
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You have something to say cosmos?
Or are you just showing your usual hatred and intolerance?
Regular posted January 19, 2009 at 6:49 pm
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:48 pm | Permalink
“Kansas values” Regular,
Why are you so “slow”? Low blood sugar? Your recent stroke?
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You have something to say cosmos?
Or are you just showing your usual hatred and intolerance?
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“Kansas values” Regular,
I just asked about the obvious fact.
Chas posted January 19, 2009 at 6:18 pm
LOL — You might want to get your facts line up before you make stupid posts like this one… ID 10 T
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No, Hank doesn’t care about facts. Hank enjoys making stupid posts. . . especially when he tries to deny AGW science.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:55 pm | Permalink
Regular posted January 19, 2009 at 6:49 pm
#
cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:48 pm | Permalink
“Kansas values” Regular,
Why are you so “slow”? Low blood sugar? Your recent stroke?
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You have something to say cosmos?
Or are you just showing your usual hatred and intolerance?
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“Kansas values” Regular,
I just asked about the obvious fact.
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No you aren’t.
You doing it to be cruel and show your hate and intolerance.
We know what you are cosmos, even without knowing you.
You are a spiteful, hateful, intolerant giant ego, who has latched onto a movement like a religion.
You’re the worst kind of ‘nut case’ cosmos.
Bush Commutes Sentences for Two Former Border Patrol Agents
Fox News
commuted not pardoned…
Regular posted January 19, 2009 at 6:58 pm
No you aren’t.
You doing it to be cruel and show your hate and intolerance.
We know what you are cosmos, even without knowing you.
You are a spiteful, hateful, intolerant giant ego, who has latched onto a movement like a religion.
You’re the worst kind of ‘nut case’ cosmos.
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Sure Regular. . . and you can refute the AGW theory with your theory that it’s caused by recent changes in Earth’s orbit. But Regular does not refute the AGW theory, because he prefers to instead attack posters on the WE Blog. /sarcasm OFF
Whatever.
Regular is still a liar, and:
“A liar is not believed even when he speaks the truth.” Aesop.
Regular
Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:35 pm | Permalink
So Chas, did you sign the letter or not? I checked all faiths and there was only one ‘Charles’ from Wichita, KS.
You said you signed the letter.
So which is?
Did you sign it or not?
You said your name is on the list.
So which is it? Is your name on the list or not?
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He said he signed the letter, AND he said his name was on this list.
Now maybe he LIED about his name being Chas, and that he’s in Wichita.
cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:19 pm | Permalink
Regular posted January 19, 2009 at 6:58 pm
No you aren’t.
You doing it to be cruel and show your hate and intolerance.
We know what you are cosmos, even without knowing you.
You are a spiteful, hateful, intolerant giant ego, who has latched onto a movement like a religion.
You’re the worst kind of ‘nut case’ cosmos.
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Sure Regular. . . and you can refute the AGW theory with your theory that it’s caused by recent changes in Earth’s orbit. But Regular does not refute the AGW theory, because he prefers to instead attack posters on the WE Blog. /sarcasm OFF
Whatever.
Regular is still a liar, and:
“A liar is not believed even when he speaks the truth.” Aesop
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Actually, I’ve posted many times on the subject cosmos without ever calling you a liar. I posted what I viewed was correct and true or I disputed what you presented.
You cosmos, are the one who consistently calls everyone who disagrees with you a liar.
You have zero credibility in ANY discussion now cosmos.
Regular posted January 19, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Bush Commutes Sentences for Two Former Border Patrol Agents
Fox News
commuted not pardoned…
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That’s right Regular. . .
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-119-3/#comment-505843
Regular,
So you found your (non-existent) links proving your (false) claim that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees?
Then post those links.
Maybe if Obama issued a Pardon for Ayers, Canada would allow Ayers to travel there?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/19/ayers-turned-away-canada-immigration-officials/
Ayers Turned Away From Canada By Immigration Officials
Weather Underground founder and Barack Obama supporter William Ayers was not permitted to clear customs at a Toronto airport Sunday.
“Regular
Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:33 pm | Permalink
…You are quite the hypocrite
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No I’m not.
The Libs on this blog have already posted my real name, my address, my email, my sisters name, the Websites I visit and etc.
What about that makes me a hypocrite when your buddies have done it first without cause?
They should have been banned for it and weren’t.
Shows you how corrupt, narrow minded and bias that Phillip Brownlee is for Libs.
And how two-faced the Libs are when it comes to revealing everything about me, but nothing about themselves.
Cowards, each and everyone.”
So if someone else does something, it makes it OK for you to do it? What are you 12?
You are responsible for your own actions, regardless of what anyone else did, and whether or not they were punished for it.
You chastised someone (me) for posting information about a poster here (albeit information on that blogger’s own website). You then posted information about a blogger yourself. Thus you are a hypocrite.
End of story.
Munchkins
Ding Dong! Global Warming is dead. Which old Global Warming? The Wicked Global Warming!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Global Warming is dead!
Wake up – sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, the Wicked Global Warming is dead. She’s gone where the goblins go, Below – below – below!!!!
Yo-ho, let’s open up and sing and ring the bells out. Ding Dong’ the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low. Let them know The Wicked Global Warming is dead!
Mayor
As Mayor of the Munchkin City, In the County of the Land of Oz, I welcome you most regally.
Barrister
But we’ve got to verify it legally, to see
Mayor
To see?
Barrister
Is she?
Mayor
If she?
Barrister
Is morally, ethic’lly
Father No.1
Spiritually, physically
Father No. 2
Positively, absolutely
Munchkins
Undeniably and reliably Dead
Coroner
As Coroner I must aver, I thoroughly examined her.
And she’s not only merely dead, she’s really most sincerely dead.
Mayor
Then this is a day of Independence For all the Munchkins and their descendants
Barrister
If any.
Mayor
Yes, let the joyous news be spread The wicked Old Global Warming at last id dead!
Expects say that Iran will have the bomb this year. Anyone surprised by this, well maybe the politicians. Appeasement does not work.
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/iran_nuke_this_year/2009/01/19/172982.html
JimJohnson posted January 19, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Yes, let the joyous news be spread The wicked Old Global Warming at last id dead!
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Nope. . . the physics of the anthropogenic caused higher levels of GHG’s in Earth’s atmosphere is very much alive.
But continue to live in your silly AGW denial fantasy, if you prefer.
Jim probably also believes that the earth is only about 8,000 years old.
Are you also a creationist, Jim?
To carry at the Anchor, or not to carry, that is the question.
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:33 pm | Permalink
“Regular
Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:33 pm | Permalink
…You are quite the hypocrite
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No I’m not.
The Libs on this blog have already posted my real name, my address, my email, my sisters name, the Websites I visit and etc.
What about that makes me a hypocrite when your buddies have done it first without cause?
They should have been banned for it and weren’t.
Shows you how corrupt, narrow minded and bias that Phillip Brownlee is for Libs.
And how two-faced the Libs are when it comes to revealing everything about me, but nothing about themselves.
Cowards, each and everyone.”
So if someone else does something, it makes it OK for you to do it? What are you 12?
You are responsible for your own actions, regardless of what anyone else did, and whether or not they were punished for it.
You chastised someone (me) for posting information about a poster here (albeit information on that blogger’s own website). You then posted information about a blogger yourself. Thus you are a hypocrite.
End of story.
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And?
Did I take it any further? He didn’t admit to being that Chas. So, as far as I’m concerned he’s not.
You think it is okay to post a person’s email, home address and other personal information then.
Better hope no one ever finds out yours, since you think it is no big deal.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:25 pm | Permalink
Regular,
So you found your (non-existent) links proving your (false) claim that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees?
Then post those links.
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cosmos, still sleeping with your mother?
Well, well…………… I see it is the same old stuff around the WEBlog.
Nice.
Greetings from Florida…………….
Just think conservatives, in just over twelve hours, Barack Hussein Obama will be sworn in as the 44th President of the United States.
Wow!
I wonder if Rush O’Hannity will be able to make it through the day.
See ya’!
Reggie….
FIRST — Who said I was in Kansas when I signed the Clergy Letter??
SECOND — How do you, or any others know that my first name is Chas… It could be my middle name… It could be my last name… FACT: YOU dont know!!!
So, what is your solution??? Post some pastor’s name all over the web (now seemingly removed)…. And then call ME a liar because YOU cant find what you made up in your own mind???
Yea, I know you been sick…. But LYING for the sake of doing it???
YOU sir, are one of the Blog’s worst!!
I wish Brownlee would just shut it down if that is the kind of behavior that is going to continue….
Night all!!
lol someone claims Sierra Club sabotaged the levees??? LOL!!!!
I guess that was – what – covered up by the Bush administration and the Army Corps of Engineers??? WHAHHAHA!!!!!!!
Chas,
Why would a name be removed? It was public information posted from a Website.
That sounds suspicious.
Hi Clark,
I see that you’re posting from Wichita. Are you here for a short stay?
DavidB posted January 19, 2009 at 8:01 pm
lol someone claims Sierra Club sabotaged the levees??? LOL!!!!
I guess that was – what – covered up by the Bush administration and the Army Corps of Engineers??? WHAHHAHA!!!!!!!
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Yep, it’s very LOL!
Regular used to be ‘Republican’.
Republican posted May 26, 2007 at 12:34 pm
blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f/#comment-239958
“Look in the Congressional Record cosmos, not the Sierra Club. And look at Justice Department reports.
You will find that the Army Corp[sic] of Engineers had to delay projects and subsequently lost the funding for those projects for those Fiscal years.
The truth hurts when told, the Sierra Club screwed the Levees in New Orleans.”
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Then Regular added a false, fictional last paragraph to his copy/paste post here.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232
“…
As a result of the 1997[sic] lawsuit, the Army Corp[sic] of Engineer[sic] lost …”
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Regular is an excellent example of “Kansas values” and honesty! /sarcasm OFF
Hi Clark,
I see that you’re posting from Wichita. Are you here for a short stay?
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Still having that reading comprehension issue, eh, Regular?
As noted, I am in Florida. I was in Wichita two weeks ago – back to Florida for the last time now.
“Regular
Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:57 pm | Permalink
….You think it is okay to post a person’s email, home address and other personal information then.
Better hope no one ever finds out yours, since you think it is no big deal.”
Note that I have never posted any personal information about you, nor would I. I am sorry that others may have done so. I personally think if a poster wants to remain anonymous they should be able to. I think it is very low to try to find out personal information about an anonymous poster and share that info.
I know the real name of the man who posts as “Chas.”
I checked the “Clergy Letter Project” and his name is indeed there, along with almost 12,000 others.
You won’t be able to find it with the information you have, however.
WS Clark–
Good to have you back, even if for a quick drive by . . .
Regular wants everyone to think he can read html as it’s processed through the server or something, like an old-time telegraph operator can hear messages in Morse Code.
Much rather be in Fla than here right now . . . although thanks to Global Warming, we’re having another unseasonably warm winter.
Much rather be in Fla than here right now . . . although thanks to Global Warming, we’re having another unseasonably warm winter.
You mean like the unseasonably warm winters they had here in Wichita in the 1920s, 60s?
What was the cause back then?
george
Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:45 pm | Permalink
Expects [sic, "experts"] say that Iran will have the bomb this year. Anyone surprised by this, well maybe the politicians. Appeasement does not work.
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Uh, George, you’re saying that BushCo. is guilty of a stupid and failed policy toward Iran?
Okay, I guess we agree on something . . .
Less than 13 more hours before the man who stole the White House and became America’s worst president is out on his a$s.
Na na na nah
Na na na nah
Hey, hey
GOOD BYE!
And good riddence to bad rubbish . . .
Uh-oh.
Looks like “Regular” had a bad day.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tweetmeme/11873an1jpg
Hey, MH–
Now that Smirky McCokespoon can no longer imprison people indefinately without trial . . . one wonders how many will come forward with information they didn’t dare make public before.
New Justice Department, New Law Enforcement Leadership, New Whistleblower Protections . . . this could get interesting really fast.
. . . although thanks to Global Warming, we’re having another unseasonably warm winter.
Yeah, I just loved those warm temps last week. /sarcasm
“CapnAmerica” notes –
“Now that Smirky McCokespoon can no longer imprison people indefinitely without trial . . . one wonders how many will come forward with information they didn’t dare make public before.
New Justice Department, New Law Enforcement Leadership, New Whistleblower Protections . . . this could get interesting really fast.”
Actually, I don’t want it to come too fast. I’d prefer a death-by-a-thousand-cuts approach to the crimes of George WMD Bush, et al.
And it’ll come.
Waxman is already the advocate of oversight, so he’ll probably take the lead.
And you’re right; a lot of the people afraid of Plamegate-style retribution will be free to tell tales… which will spur more investigations. But I like the concept of “No Drama Obama.”
This shouldn’t look like anything that could be construed as a Democratic “witch hunt” (although the CONs will parrot those words a lot over the next several years).
Peel away the layers of this stinking onion of a president. It’ll keep the CONs in tears for years.
From Jacob Bronowski’s brilliant BBC series.
A little sermon for folks like “HLP” and his boy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mIfatdNqBA
Let’s see, unseasonably warm days in Kansas or selective memory (often called AGW selective memory) :)
Some Unseasonably warm temperatures (random picks) 20-24 January Kansas
Wichita Mid Continent Airport 71 in 1906
Salina Municipal Airport 67 in 1933
Salina Municipal Airport 67 in 1938
Chanute Martin Johnson Airport 75 in 1950
Russell Municipal Airport 69 in 1950
Chanute Martin Johnson Airport 73 in 1957
Wichita Mid Continent Airport 69 in 1964
Russell Municipal Airport 65 in 1964
Wichita Mid Continent Airport 75 in 1967
Wichita Mid Continent Airport 73 in 1967
Chanute Martin Johnson Airport 72 in 1967
Chanute Martin Johnson Airport 71 in 1967
Russell Municipal Airport 68 in 1981
Russell Municipal Airport 75 in 1981
Salina Municipal Airport 71 in 1981
Salina Municipal Airport 73 in 1981
Wichita Mid Continent Airport 74 in 1981
Russell Municipal Airport 78 in 1986
Salina Municipal Airport 72 in 1986
Chanute Martin Johnson Airport 71 in 1986
Appears to be a fairly consistent thing for January in Kansas for those unseasonably warm days. :)
That was just checked for a four day period too!
Have there been RSVPs for the Anchor Friday night party?
How late you guys going to stay?
“Wichita Mid Continent Airport 71 in 1906″
Ummmm There was no mid continent airport in Wichita in 1906…
Wanna try again??
I wonder if cosmos could theorize the reason why the temperatures were so high at the turn of the century in January for Wichita.
Were the cows letting off too much methane?
Had some mysterious time warp occurred and Cadillacs invaded Wichita around the turn of the century?
January 9 – 69 degrees in 1902
January 10 – 74 degrees in 1911
January 16 – 72 degrees in 1894
January 30 – 70 degrees in 1890
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2008/
“The ten warmest years all occur within the 12-year period 1997-2008.“
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Chas
Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:50 pm | Permalink
“Wichita Mid Continent Airport 71 in 1906?
Ummmm There was no mid continent airport in Wichita in 1906…
Wanna try again??
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I didn’t write the database Chas and just knew some local hayseed like yourself would say something about that.
I don’t know what that temperature site was called back then, but these people didn’t see fit to change the name.
NOAA Climate Information, Wichita, Kansas
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/climate/viewrecords.php
“Ummmm There was no mid continent airport in Wichita in 1906.”
Good catch Chas. Wasn’t the Municipal airport near, or where McConnell AFB is today?
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20081216.html
“The ten warmest years on record have occurred since 1997. Global temperatures for 2000-2008 now stand almost 0.2 °C warmer than the average for the decade 1990–1999.“
That’s right Steven…. And it wasnt even called Mid Continent Airport until I was in my early teens… before that it was called Wichita Municipal Airport…
Reg… I doubt that Wichita even HAD an airport of any kind in 1906… LOL
Of course, what cosmos doesn’t tell you, is that the temperature data was washed, rinsed and dried through Hansen’s error induced computer model.
If one looks at the unabated temperature data as seen on this page, the 1930s-1940s are unquestionably the warmest decade throughout the world.
http://www.free-the-memes.net/writings/warming2/hottest_year.html
Yeah, manipulate that data cosmos, maybe you work on the stock market where data manipulation can earn you profits. :D
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Chas
Posted January 20, 2009 at 12:01 am | Permalink
That’s right Steven…. And it wasnt even called Mid Continent Airport until I was in my early teens… before that it was called Wichita Municipal Airport…
Reg… I doubt that Wichita even HAD an airport of any kind in 1906… LOL
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Chas,
There is no question in my mind, you are a total idiot.
I don’t know what the site was called then.
Perhaps it was nothing more than a wind sock and a blimp.
Do you know who the NOAA center for Climate are? This is the site that cosmos’s AGW relies on for its data.
Are you calling cosmos and the fine climate researchers at NOAA liars?
Or are you just ate up with the (insert word here)?
But, but, but, cosmos, Regular says it has been warm in January for a number of years. We’re supposed to believe your links over his posts???
Heck, if there was anything to that global warming thing, why did Bush watch-dogs have to try to suppress information about global warming at NASA and other agencies. Oh wait, that doesn’t sound right.
Regular,
It doesn’t matter. You could have concrete proof of how they are wrong. They will find some obscure thing to be absurd about and never actually engage you in a discussion.
Reguliar posted January 20, 2009 at 12:02 am
Of course, what cosmos doesn’t tell you, is that the temperature data was washed, rinsed and dried through Hansen’s error induced computer model.
‘Met Office: 2008 global temperature‘
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20081216.html
“The ten warmest years on record have occurred since 1997. “
I am not positive Chas, but I thought the original Wichita airport was on the east side, near where McConnell is now.
I thought McCluer was an expert on Wichita and Kansas history. I guess I am disappointed and feel more than a little let down to put it mildly.
Could be right Nathan,
Since Steven Davis and Chas are convinced the data is a lie, therefore it must be.
Now, they need to call cosmos a liar, because that is precisely the data collection site that NASA and other agencies use to compile their AGW data.
Chas and Steven Davis have just called cosmos a liar for using fictitious data from the NOAA database.
No question about it.
There you have it. Libs calling other Libs liars.
:D
yes, steven, you are right… the original Wichita Airport was where McConnell AFB is now… It moved to where it is now in the early-mid 50’s… It was re-named Mid Continent Airport in the mid- 60’s…
‘Global Temperature from GISS, NCDC, HadCRU‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/giss-ncdc-hadcru/
Reggie, havent you lied enough for one day??
Neither Steven nor I said anything about Cosmos’ figures…
o which is it Davis and Chas?
Are cosmos and Hansen liars for using NOAA data?
You say there was no such place for a temperature to be recorded. Perhaps it was called something else and they just gave it another name?
You know, like Derby used to be called El Paso or some such. Was nothing there back in day, but a train station named after the Station Master named, you guessed it Derby.
Or could it be that cosmos and Hansen are liars and you say the data can’t be right because the Wichita Mid continent airport was called something else back in the day?
So which is it Davis and Chas?
Are cosmos and Hansen liars for using NOAA data?
You say there was no such place for a temperature to be recorded. Perhaps it was called something else and they just gave it another name?
You know, like Derby used to be called El Paso or some such. Was nothing there back in day, but a train station named after the Station Master named, you guessed it Derby.
Or could it be that cosmos and Hansen are liars and you say the data can’t be right because the Wichita Mid continent airport was called something else back in the day?
Which is it?
Inaccurate data, cosmos and Hansen are liars?
Or exactly what Libs?
Are you chewing your tongues about now that you just trashed the credibility of data where the AGW “experts” get their data?
Nathaniel posted January 20, 2009 at 12:06 am
It doesn’t matter. You could have concrete proof of how they are wrong. They will find some obscure thing to be absurd about and never actually engage you in a discussion.
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Nathaniel does not have any concrete proof that the AGW theory is wrong.
Nathaniel posts falsehoods about AGW, uses ad hominems when asked for his sources, and then runs away like a coward.
I remember going to the airport when I was about 7 years old… Ike landed here for something, when Air Force One was one of those old tri-rudder Constellation airplanes… It was quite a site to see…
Pay close attention Reggie….
I didnt say ANYTHNG about the temperature data… I said something about the NAME of the location listed…. Please try to READ and react properly… You make such an ass of yourself when you dont pay attention….
It also wasnt called NOAA then either…. Not even the National Weather Service….
It was called the Wichita Weather Bureau…
i believe originally it was located perhaps at the old Union Station…. which was the hub of transportation in the city back in those days…
Tell me Chas and Steven Davis.
When the Native Americans called the Mississippi river by some other name back in the day, did the waters not flow or were there no fish in the river?
Or could it be there was just a name change and the river in its basic context is still the same river?
What was New York City called when the Dutch inhabited it?
Does the Dutch history just go away because the English took over the city?
How about it?
Let’s test the theory of Chas and Davis on name changes to a location affecting data.
Chas posted January 20, 2009 at 12:16 am
Reggie, havent you lied enough for one day??
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Reguliar never can post enough lies in one day.
He also has not shown that GISS uses that specific site.
But don’t worry — Reguliar believes that the global warming during the last few decades is caused by orbital changes.
Chas
Posted January 20, 2009 at 12:16 am | Permalink
Reggie, havent you lied enough for one day??
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Exactly what did I lie about Chas?
Are you saying the data from the NOAA data center for Climate is incorrect because of a name change?
Just exactly what are you saying?
I’ll give you ample time to weasel out of your faux pas.
This should be interesting.
Regular,
Have you found your (non-existent) links proving your (false) claim that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees?
Oh yea, once again Reggie…. There wasnt even an airport in Wichita in 1906… January 1906 was barely more than 25 months after Wilbur and Orville made that contraption fly in Kitty Hawk… Dec., 1903..
THAT is what I was pointing out… NOT the temperature reading…. Dont try to create some sorry ass straw man… Aint gonna work anymore…
Chas,
You were right and I was wrong. I just sent you an email that has an attachment of a bunch of 1950’s Wichita photos. There is a photo of an early Mid-Continent that is called the Wichita Municipal Airport.
Speaking of, do you remember swimming in the Municipal pool near Sims Park back in the day?
From one local hayseed to another, see ya later, dude.
So cosmos, instead of diverting attention as you usually do.
Is the NOAA Climate Data Center in error for using the name “Wichita Mid Continent Airport” as a data point?
A simple yes or no would be sufficient.
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Chas
Posted January 20, 2009 at 12:31 am | Permalink
Oh yea, once again Reggie…. There wasnt even an airport in Wichita in 1906… January 1906 was barely more than 25 months after Wilbur and Orville made that contraption fly in Kitty Hawk… Dec., 1903..
THAT is what I was pointing out… NOT the temperature reading…. Dont try to create some sorry ass straw man… Aint gonna work anymore…
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So Chas, I’ll ask you the same question I did of cosmos.
Is the NOAA Climate Data Center in error for using the name “Wichita Mid Continent Airport” as a data point?
A simple yes or no would be sufficient.
THIS is where you lied, Reggie…. >>>>
“Since Steven Davis and Chas are convinced the data is a lie, therefore it must be.
Now, they need to call cosmos a liar, because that is precisely the data collection site that NASA and other agencies use to compile their AGW data.
Chas and Steven Davis have just called cosmos a liar for using fictitious data from the NOAA database.”
Jay-sus H. Christ…………….. I didn’t miss a thang while I was gone…………SSDD.
Dang.
You boys try to behave now – ’specially you Nate.
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Chas
Posted January 20, 2009 at 12:34 am | Permalink
THIS is where you lied, Reggie…. >>>>
“Since Steven Davis and Chas are convinced the data is a lie, therefore it must be.
Now, they need to call cosmos a liar, because that is precisely the data collection site that NASA and other agencies use to compile their AGW data.
Chas and Steven Davis have just called cosmos a liar for using fictitious data from the NOAA database.”
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More correctly, that is called an preemptive assumption, not a lie.
“Let’s test the theory of Chas and Davis on name changes to a location affecting data.”
Wasn’t trying to dispute your data, because, James, on the face of it, they were pretty meaningless (like 99% of your posts). I was trying to get correct the names of places here in Wichita. No need to get your panties in a bunch…
Reg —
“Is the NOAA Climate Data Center in error for using the name “Wichita Mid Continent Airport” as a data point?”
Simple Answer: YES THEY ARE IN ERROR….
However, that doesnt make the TEMPERATURE data in error…. Just means that NOAA didnt do their homework…
Ummm… Reg??? How can it be “preemptive” when in fact you used “past tense”???
Your words: “Chas and Steven Davis have just called cosmos a liar for using fictitious data from the NOAA database.”
Hey Clark, good to see ya. I pay a lot less attention to Regular than I used to and I would say that trend holds true through most of the traffic here.
He is part of the background noise one has to put up with to read some interesting stuff every now and again.
Hope all is going well for you Clark. Have thought about you often.
The FACT is that neither Steven nor I called Cosmos a liar… So, you want to dance around that, or just let it go??
Chas,
Regular is just wasting your time (trolling), because he cannot refute the AGW science.
Just like Regular cannot find his (non-existent) links proving his (false) claim that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees.
Chas
Posted January 20, 2009 at 12:37 am | Permalink
Reg —
“Is the NOAA Climate Data Center in error for using the name “Wichita Mid Continent Airport” as a data point?”
Simple Answer: YES THEY ARE IN ERROR
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Okay Chas, thanks for answering.
Now let me point this to you, it’s called “consistency in application of nomenclature and classification for data.”
What if NOAA, who you say were in error for giving this erroneous name called it one year by the name the Native Americans called it.
The next year, they called it plot XYZ, parcel 222, because the Federal Government bought it.
Five years later, the call the same plot of land, Murray’s farm, because he owns the land.
Murray sells the land to A. Jones, so it’s called Jones acreage.
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Now Chas, being a local you might well know all this location and its naming history.
But what about a Climate researcher in Oslo, Norway?
How confusing and time consuming to have several different names for one data point location?
Rather confusing don’t you think?
So instead, they call the data point location, the Wichita Mid Continent Airport, because that’s where the data has always been collected regardless of name.
I would call yours (Chas) and Steven Davis attempt to belittle the data (and myself) a fool hardly adventure in trying to be snarky.
I understand, neither one of you have trained in the disciplines of science and really know the importance of consistent naming conventions.
Do try to be more cognizant of why databases are arranged the way they are and don’t attack the source unless you have unquestionable background and knowledge of said source.
Owned.
Boned.
and
De-throned.
That’s all for me tonight, I need to shine by brass bell – need to give it another ring for owning up a pair of clueless Libs. :)
Ok… morning comes early… I’m outta here… night night!!
really know the importance
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really don’t know the importance
Reg says:
“So instead, they call the data point location, the Wichita Mid Continent Airport, because that’s where the data has always been collected regardless of name.”
Well, now, isnt that interesting… And again, you would be wrong… the location of what is now Mid Continent Airport is NOT the location where weather data has always been collected…
The simple solution for NOAA would be to simply say WICHITA…. The location for dat collecting has changed numerous times… It certainly isnt what you say in the quote I just listed here… So, once again, you would be wrong… And the reason you would be wrong, is because you care too much about being right…
Good grief man, back in 1906, there wasnt even a Kellogg Avenue…
ONE MORE TIME REGGIE…..
Open your blood shot eyes and READ …
Neither myself nor Steven were belittling the DATA… Only the ERROR made by NOAA in the listing of the location….
And for what it’s worth, that isnt a matter of Conservative, or Liberal… Just FACTS….
Chas
Posted January 20, 2009 at 12:55 am | Permalink
Reg says:
“So instead, they call the data point location, the Wichita Mid Continent Airport, because that’s where the data has always been collected regardless of name.”
Well, now, isnt that interesting… And again, you would be wrong… the location of what is now Mid Continent Airport is NOT the location where weather data has always been collected…
The simple solution for NOAA would be to simply say WICHITA…. The location for dat collecting has changed numerous times… It certainly isnt what you say in the quote I just listed here… So, once again, you would be wrong… And the reason you would be wrong, is because you care too much about being right…
Good grief man, back in 1906, there wasnt even a Kellogg Avenue
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Quite often, the airport for large cities is used as the naming convention for temperature collection points.
Stop arm flailing Chas, you lost.
Hope all is going well for you Clark..
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Thank you for the kind thoughts, SD. Things are going okay – I hate Florida – but what the Heck –
I wanna go home – but I have some final details to wrap up and “stuff” to do.
It will be at least three more weeks until I return to Wichita, but that’s the price you pay.
As for “Regular?” That’s all Same Stuff, Different Day. Put that boy on mute.
Hey, Folks, ten more hours until we have a REAL President!!!!
Happy Days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are just SO WRONG Reggie… SO WRONG!!
All they need to do is say WICHITA… as you did for Oslo….. Norway that is….
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Chas
Posted January 20, 2009 at 1:05 am | Permalink
You are just SO WRONG Reggie… SO WRONG!!
All they need to do is say WICHITA… as you did for Oslo….. Norway that is….
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Well Chas…
Airports are given letter designations for reason I won’t go into here.
Wichita Mid-Continent Airport is ICT. (taken out of the name of Wichita)
Chicago O’hare is called ORD (named after an Orchard)
Oslo Airport is called PWS (I have no clue why)
Airport names and their abbreviations are often use as temperature and weather data locations.
Deal with it Chas and stop your arm flailing.
I will keep my word and not say anything bad about Obama. I will not relent saying anything about his supporter’s.
Hopefully, you folks will get to eliminate any part of the Constitution or Bill of Rights that doesn’t fulfill your wants or needs. This article here shows the thinker’s in America that you guys indeed, want to kill the civil liberties that you so loudly and proudly claim to champion.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2009/01/15/pjm011509inaugletter.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=16
Not that you’ll read it anyway, but “the proof is in the puddin’”, as they say.
And if you’re too dense to grasp the meaning, that’s the first amendment I’m referring to.
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