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Although this doesn’t add to the irrefutable fact of evolution, apart from the fact that DNA proves evolution beyond a reasonable doubt, I still find it quite interesting.
DNA Testing May Unlock Secrets Of Medieval Manuscripts
ScienceDaily (Jan. 17, 2009) — Thousands of painstakingly handwritten books produced in medieval Europe still exist today, but scholars have long struggled with questions about when and where the majority of these works originated. Now a researcher from North Carolina State University is using modern advances in genetics to develop techniques that will shed light on the origins of these important cultural artifacts.
Many medieval manuscripts were written on parchment made from animal skin, and NC State Assistant Professor of English Timothy Stinson is working to perfect techniques for extracting and analyzing the DNA contained in these skins with the long-term goal of creating a genetic database that can be used to determine when and where a manuscript was written. “Dating and localizing manuscripts have historically presented persistent problems,” Stinson says, “because they have largely been based on the handwriting and dialect of the scribes who created the manuscripts – techniques that have proven unreliable for a number of reasons.”
More real science, not creationist BS at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090112093328.htm
I am researching Barack Obama’s mother’s parent’s ties to the Wichita area. It looks to me like they moved a lot but generally in Wichita’s Delano vicinity. Frankly those of us interested in this subject need more information.
Obama’s mother’s name was S. Ann Dunham. Interestingly, the “S.” stood for her father’s first name, Stanley. Perhaps that made her more independent during her later years.
Apparently, Ann’s parents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, each had ties to El Dorado and Augusta, respectively, but those connections are a bit hazy.
If anyone has information, call me or leave a message for me at Channel 5 TV on East Douglas across from East High School and I will call you.
GLOBAL WARMING DOOM, GLOOM HAVEN’T OCCURRED
BY MIKE SMITH (Mike Smith is a certified consulting meteorologist and CEO of WeatherData Services of Wichita Kansas)
For more than 20 years, we have been hearing doomsday predictions about global warming’s effects on Kansas and across the world. Locally, during the hot Kansas summer of 2006, forecasts were issued and media articles written tying that hot, dry weather to global warming, and forecasting more extreme heat in the future. According to one scientist with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, global warming in 2006 was already “kicking the heat up a notch.”
But the weather has refused to cooperate with those forecasts. More drought? The reality: 2007 and 2008 were the two wettest years in the history of Wichita. No area of Kansas is experiencing drought at the present time, in spite of all that hand-wringing just two years ago. Extreme heat? The reality: The past two years, combined, had 21 fewer days than average with 90-degree or higher temperatures. Since 1990, there has been a downward trend in 100-degree or warmer temperatures in Wichita.
It isn’t just Kansas. In spite of the highest concentrations of carbon dioxide in the history of civilization, world temperatures have failed to warm the past 10 years. Ocean heat content is falling. World ice concentrations (Arctic and Antarctic combined) are higher than normal.
The 2001 forecasts by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (cited by Al Gore) have failed to capture the recent cooling, as the above graph indicates, suggesting that the carbon dioxide-atmosphere connection is more complex than some initially believed. A small but growing number of scientists are becoming concerned about global cooling due to the current unusually low solar activity and other geophysical factors.
The fact is that the solar-land-ocean-atmosphere system is incredibly complex, and meteorologists have no consistent skill at forecasting its behavior a year into the future, let alone decades hence. I don’t know what 2009’s or 2029’s weather might bring, nor does anyone else. The sciences of meteorology and climatology still have a lot of learning to do. My personal conclusion: The science is definitely not settled.
http://www.kansas.com/781/story/664997.html
Dear Hank,
So you do NOT have a single valid argument to support your claim that all of the worlds scientists are wrong about the ENSO connection to average global temperatures?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-116-3/#comment-504835
All that Hank has is dumb, invalid ones, like his “laison”, attacking me, saying that Dr. Hansen is Al Gore’s “butt-boy”, etc.
Hank posted January 17, 2009 at 7:12 am
“… world temperatures have failed to warm the past 10 years.”
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Dear Hank,
1) Was there a record warm El Nino about “10 years” ago, in 1998?
2) Was there the coolest La Nina since 1988/1989 in 2007/2008?
3) Was there a solar minimum during the last two years?
The answer to 1, 2, and 3 is YES.
Hank will now prove that he is UNABLE to explain why the above three factors do NOT affect the average global temperature.
‘Arctic warming pattern ‘highly unusual’: Report‘
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=1186593
“A major U.S. government report on Arctic climate, prepared with input from eight Canadian scientists, has concluded that the recent rapid warming of polar temperatures and shrinking of multi-year Arctic sea ice are “highly unusual compared to events from previous thousands of years.”
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Details at link.
Hmmmmm. . .
‘What if … ?‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/what-if/
Cosmos,
I see the double standard now!
The sun can only be behind this cooling and not the warming.
When we were even suggesting that the sun was behind the warming you and the chicken littles were flipping out.
Now all of a sudden you say it is part of the cooling?
LOL
CapnAmerica,
I don’t question your faith. I am sure that whatever it is you believe in, your faith is not in question.
It is the notion that you have that what you believe is Christian that I question.
Sorry for any confusion.
Man, Cosmos is up early playing global warming copy and paste.
You know what they say, the early nerd gets the warm.
Tara,
No, I don’t beleive that “most” Christians believe in Evolution either.
Even those that do, including you, don’t believe in the actual scientific definition of Evolution.
What is rather sadly ironic is that you sit here mocking me for my rejection of “science” and Evolutionary theory while even you believe in some quasi-God started Evolution.
That is hardly any more scientific than what I believe and you will not see it taught in science either.
So, why do you reject “science” Tara?
Tara,
The problem with what “Christians” like you believe Tara, is that it is not biblical nor is it scientific.
So you sit in the middle of the road, half way rejecting what the Bible says and half way rejecting what science says.
All the while denouncing Christians who do accept what the Bible says.
Explain that to me? Why what you believe is so much more “scientific” and more reasonable?
From your WE Blog record, “Nathaniel” –
You you have about as much credibility for your qualifications to judge who is or is-not a Christian as I have to declare who is or is-not a United States Marine.
If you can imagine what it would be like if I were to come on to this forum and declare you to be “… not a real Marine,” you might get an insight as to just how absurd your on-line persona has become.
P.S. — I was touched to hear from “HLP” that your natural mother is deceased. What happened? Did she shoot your dog?
Hank – re: Mike Smith’s article:
“Ocean cooling” did not happen.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1158&tstamp=200805
“Now, the explanation for this apparent cooling of the oceans has been resolved–key measurements made by submersible robot buoys and that indicated the ocean was cooling were found to be in error. The new, corrected data show that no cooling of the oceans occurred in 2004-2006, in agreement with what the climate models were predicting.”
I remember well when that story first came out. It had seemed especially difficult to rationalize in view of the overall ’swelling’ of the oceans due to lower density with higher temps.
Total ice: The fact that total ice volume in the central regions of Antacrtica is not evidence against warming. Remember, the temps at that altitude are starting out FAR below freezing. Increased temperatures at latitudes below (north of) the polar front would be expected to increase precipitation(snow) in Antarctica.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/archive.html?year=2009&month=01
Why did Antarctica cool between 1982 and 2004 if there was global warming going on?
The weather of the Antarctic is dominated by a strong band of westerly winds that blow around the pole. This circumpolar vortex extends from the surface to the stratosphere, and can attain very high wind speeds, thanks to the absence of large land masses to slow it down. This vortex tends to isolate Antarctica from the rest of the globe, keeping global warming from influencing Antarctica’s weather, and allowing the surface to cool. The Antarctic Peninsula, which sticks out from Antarctica towards South America, frequently lies outside the vortex. This has allowed the peninsula to warm significantly, compared to the rest of Antarctica (Figures 2 and 3). The antarctic circumpolar vortex has strengthened in the past 25-30 years, forming an even stronger barrier than usual. Tree ring records (Jones and Widman, 2004) suggest that the circumpolar vortex has shown similar strengthening in the past, so the current cooling trend in Antarctica may be natural.
Another possibility, favored by climate modelers, is that the strengthening of the circumpolar vortex and recent cooling in Antarctica are primarily due to a combination of the recent increase in greenhouse gases and the opening of the Antarctic ozone hole. The ozone hole opened up at about the same time as the recent cooling began. Ozone absorbs UV radiation which heats the atmosphere around it, so the absence of ozone has led to cooling in the stratosphere over Antarctica. This cooling has been about 10° C in October-November since 1985 (Thompson and Solomon, 2002). This has acted to intensify the circumpolar vortex, leading to surface cooling. If the climate modelers are right, the circumpolar vortex will weaken as the ozone hole diminishes in coming decades. This will allow the Antarctic to begin warming with the rest of the globe, in a decade or two.
“P.S. — I was touched to hear from “HLP” that your natural mother is deceased. What happened? Did she shoot your dog?”
MH – that is uncalled for. Please retract.
Nathaniel posted January 17, 2009 at 8:35 am
Cosmos,
I see the double standard now!
The sun can only be behind this cooling and not the warming.
When we were even suggesting that the sun was behind the warming you and the chicken littles were flipping out.
Now all of a sudden you say it is part of the cooling?
LOL
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Nathaniel,
I’m sorry that you cannot understand that BOTH solar AND GHG’s affect temperatures.
You should stop proving that you are very ignorant by misquoting climate science.
Solar does not explain the warming observed since the mid-1970’s.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
Looks like a lot of “either or’s” and “if and when’s” to me Dr. Huie – re: Antarctica. :D
I have a theory why Antarctica is always cold. It’s all that ice!
watcha think?
It is a shame that the Bush basher’s can’t take a clue from prez elect and show a little class. cnn.com had a story that says, in part, “President-elect Barack Obama said today that he “always thought [Bush] was a good guy.”
Seems like Obama has a LOT more class than a majority of his supporters.
Indeed MonkeyHock enjoys taunting others on death of family members.
The blog’s primate is a sick individual.
CELEBRATE THE TIMES COME ON!
THINK about it. This is the weekend. Monday is a national holiday.
As of 5 PM Eastern Daylight Time yesterday (4 PM our time) the bush ….disaster
IS OVER!
na na na na
na na na na
Hey hey hey
GOODBYE!
thank you for proving my point about lack of class there, bj…
bth
Posted January 17, 2009 at 9:05 am | Permalink
“P.S. — I was touched to hear from “HLP” that your natural mother is deceased. What happened? Did she shoot your dog?”
MH – that is uncalled for. Please retract.
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I agree. That is over the line. Actually, it’s over a whole bunch of lines.
Please apologize to Nathan, Monkeyhawk.
Although I am sure both Nathan and Hank have big shoulders and have been well weathered through much more daunting characters than the a small person like Monkeyhawk, his comments above are totally inappropriate for any blog.
Nathan and Hank for some reason I am embarrassed to be witness to Monkeyhawks behavior. I’m sorry to.
I don’t think we need the editors to resolve this problem, although I think the post should be removed, the solution could be for all bloggers to not post to Monkeyhawk until it apologizes.
To quote ol’ President #41 –
“Nah gunna do it.”
Not when “HLP” and “Nathaniel” love to circle jerk over the writings of Ann Coulter.
“…New Jersey widows [whose husbands perished in the World Trade Center” act“as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them. I’ve never seen people enjoying their husbands’ deaths so much.”
Not when “Nathaniel” constantly self-ordains himself to determine just who is an who isn’t a “real” Christian.
Nope.
I’m not gonna bow to the simpering PC police who, after the fact, started drawing imaginary lines I supposedly crossed.
I’m amused the CON-gregation was reduced to 8th-Grade-level name-calling like ““MonkeyHock.” (You don’t know just how much everyone loves you for your debating skills, “Regular.”)
The Christ “HLP” and “Nathaniel” claim to speak for said nothing about gay marriage (or gay anything, for that matter) but sure was specific on the matter of divorce.
Luckily, Jesus has “HLP” and “Nathaniel” around to set Him straight.
I’m amused the CON-gregation was reduced to 8th-Grade-level name-calling like ““MonkeyHock.” (You don’t know just how much everyone loves you for your debating skills, “Regular.”)
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I think the name ‘MonkeyHock’ fits you perfect.
Hock meaning to ‘hock one out’ which you do quite frequently as is in evidence of your latest spew.
As far as my debating skills, I don’t lose many debates here. I’m unyielding if I believe I’m correct and like a bulldog on a bone.
None of that justifies an accusation of the murder of one’s mother over a dog’s life.
To make a joke, for chrissakes.
Grow a pair and apologize.
Regular you know you are just feeding it. Let it starve.
You hurt it most by ignoring a barking dog.
” I don’t lose many debates here.”
This is what is known as a self reinforcing delusion.
Monkeyhawk, your justification for what you said to Nathan is extremely weak
“Oh, they quote Ann Coulter, so its OK to take a personal shot over the death of a parent?”
That’s bullsh*t shock jock, and I am sure that you know that. Your comment is WAY over the line, has nothing to do with any comment except to be a nasty personal shot at a perceived emotional vulnerability.
And believe me, I am NO fan of Nathan’s conduct on this blog.
You don’t joke when you accuse somebody of murdering their mother. Not and get taken seriously subsequently.
You don’t joke when you compound things by flippantly asking if a dog’s death was the cause. The alternative is to not get taken seriously subsequently.
Of course nobody can force you to retract your comments to Nathan.
The alternative, however, ain’t good.
Regular posted January 17, 2009 at 9:48 am
As far as my debating skills, I don’t lose many debates here. I’m unyielding if I believe I’m correct and like a bulldog on a bone.
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Translation: “Kansas values” Regular will happily lie whenever needed, to prove his invalid opinions.
And Regular will also add false, fictional paragraphs to his copy/paste posts, to prove his lies.
Ann Coulter is a professional troll, an attention prostitute (not my original terminology) whose weapon of choice is intentional use of the most blatant hypocrisy and heartlessness in an attempt to gain attention to itself. It should be ignored, not emulated on the justification of “well, they quote it, so I can use its tactics against them”.
Like Pendant said, grow a pair and apologize.
Now, I really gotta go.
Alabama colder than Alaska today, is that more fodder for the Global cooling group?
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Nathaniel
Posted January 17, 2009 at 8:58 am | Permalink
The problem with what “Christians” like you believe Tara, is that it is not biblical nor is it scientific.
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The problem with your “definition” of Christians is it is basically meaningless. Anyone who believes Jesus Christ is the Son of God is a Christian. That’s anyone, Nathan, not just the ones who believe in the bible. That is something I was taught in Catholic school, which I attended, and graduated from, for twelve years. That twelve years included theology, and nothing points to “real” Christians as opposed to phony Christians: you either are or are not a Christian. It is hardly something for you, or your church, to judge: that is left up to God.
The problem I have with your beliefs is you fail to see how truly powerful God is. It’s manifested in the complexity, and beauty, of the universe, right down to a single-celled amoeba. It’s also evident in the fact the universe is over 13.5 billion years old. From your own posts, you seem to be claiming anyone who believes that is not a true Christian. That, to me, smacks of arrogance; something Jesus Christ spoke about.
Could the universe be 8000 years old? Maybe, but not likely: I have yet to see evidence of dinosaurs and man cavorting together in any fashion. Does it matter? NO!!!
I agree with the consensus in regard to Monkeyhawk’s cowardly post and appreciate good people stepping up. But it should go further. I think he should he suspended or even banned.
I would call on the EDITORS to draw the line at this gross abuse.
Here’s the full text of my earlier post that’s got so many in a twitter:
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Monkeyhawk
Posted January 17, 2009 at 9:01 am | Permalink
From your WE Blog record, “Nathaniel” –
You you have about as much credibility for your qualifications to judge who is or is-not a Christian as I have to declare who is or is-not a United States Marine.
If you can imagine what it would be like if I were to come on to this forum and declare you to be “… not a real Marine,” you might get an insight as to just how absurd your on-line persona has become.
P.S. — I was touched to hear from “HLP” that your natural mother is deceased. What happened? Did she shoot your dog?
I don’t see any accusation.
The context, of course, is well understood to a lot of WE Blog readers.
A lot of “Nathaniel’s” defenders are on record as specifically noting he did not specifically threaten “murder” in his infamous “…if you shot my dog” post of November, 2007.
Sorry, but if part of “HLP’s” routine cut-and-posts of Ann Coulter’s droppings doesn’t prompt the same outrage as my little quip-question, I don’t think I’m answerable to you who know the inside joke and know the personalities involved.
I note neither of the Prices have responded, only their sycophants and namby-pamby Liberals.
I can (and will, I promise you) take it either way.
Either their non-responses are non-denial denials and there are some specifics to “Nathaniel” parentage issues we just don’t talk about over the Price dinner table.
Or maybe they’ve realized all their accusatory snarks have come back to bite ‘em and they’re chastened.
Let’s also suspend or ban the people who tell other posters to commit suicide.
I tried drawing lines here myself.
I found out not so quick how the cons get around that.
Oh they have the occasional off the wall shocker. Like when Nathan accused me of having a computer full of porn? Or maybe when Hank called my son names that I won’t try to get past moderation here.
Mostly though, they deal in slightly gentler but often repeated lies and shots.
I’m past trying to play nice with not nice people. I defend my friends and try to be no worse than my enemies and don’t have any desire anymore to play referee.
“only their sycophants and namby-pamby Liberals.”
MH – I think you know that I have tangled ‘bare-knuckled’ with both Hank and Nathan – especially Nathan. I am hardly namby-pamby. However, I think you weaken yourself with that specific comment.
Just when you think it can’t get any worse…
Leave it to one of your fave-rave magazines to prove you wrong.
I can’t afford to buy the newest issue of Rolling Stone until I get my first paycheck, so I’ve gotta make do with the 12/11/08 issue for edification and enlightenment. (Yep, that’s the eesh-ew with B. Spears on the cover.)
Now, I could be grousing about the fact that a talentless twit earns $1M a month in interest income, and I can’t even afford to dry my freshly-laundered undies right about now (unlike B. Spears, I wear them in public). But no – I’m upset about something else.
On page 46 of this issue there’s a picture of a fat, nearly-geriatric, matron in the throes of orgiastic ecstasy. Candidly, she looks like something from a porno film that I walked away from in disgust in 1988 when a video store clerk inadvertently left it in the machine.
What was the source of this utopia? Did Ron Jeremy finally show Mrs. Rotund America the joy of roly-poly rumblin’? No.
The news that Prop. 8 passed – therein banning all gays from marryin’ and tarryin’ in California. And it just made this broad’s day.
But that’s not all. In fact, that isn’t really the source of the horror today. No – it’s a paragraph from that same article that induces thanatic horror this morning: And I shall quote:
“It’s also ironic that the coalition – which framed Proposition 8 as a fight to protect California’s children – was quietly knit together by the Catholic archbishop of San Francisco, who once excused the molestation of children at the hands of a pedophile priest as mere ‘horseplay.’ ”
Horseplay.
Like many current and ex-Catholics, no platitudes apply here – not in this careening horror. Like many, I ask myself, “Where and who is God? Where was and is the ‘holy spirit’ in this madness?”
Speaking personally, no satisfactory answers abound.
But I have found some good in all this. I wish to thank my former confessor, who guided St. Joseph’s Parish in Hays for more than a decade without even a hint of improper behavior, for allowing me to be innocent of such scandal. Because none existed under his watch. And because my worldview, back then, did not extend beyond Hays, KS – I remained innocent of such travesties.
Father I can no longer agree on everything – but of this he would wholly concur: Children deserve not only their innocence – but their unfettered joy. They deserve to have adults in their lives who strive, as much as is humanly possible, to keep the miseries of life from them.
I’ve learned a whole helluva lot about this damnable bishop – as well as others like him – during recent years. And horribly, it wasn’t only those in power who were at fault. Many parishioners shunned those parents who dared to question their bishops and/or pastors. Yes – let’s blame the victim!
It’s a cheap salve – and it’s to be condemned, especially when young children are involved.
I thank Father J. – and I thank my mother – for allowing me to be a child. Children deserve this unassailable right from all of us.
Thirteen months ago, I trekked to the Warren Old Town theatre. After the film’s end, I strode outside to find a deserted city. It was Christmas Eve, and every store was closed. The streets were darkened and deserted. I was alone.
I suddenly realized that if someone wished to harm me, there would be no one within blocks to help me. The terror increased with every passing second, and soon I began crying and trembling.
Finally, I reached the bus stop and boarded the last bus of the day, with microseconds to spare. As I took my seat, I realized there were giant rivulets of mascara cascading down my cheeks.
A little auburn-haired boy sitting across from me gazed at me with concern and confusion. “What’s wrong?” he asked. The instant I looked at that precious little boy, I knew I had to toughen up.
“It’s okay honey,” I declared. “I just saw my face in the mirror with no makeup! That’d be enough to scare anyone!”
“Oh, okay.” the child responded with evident relief. He laughed. I laughed. And I arrived home – still shaken but assured that I had done the right thing. The only thing, given the circumstances.
My heart tells me that we can’t blame honorable, decent gay individuals for pedophilic slime in our midst.
Makes one wonder about that harridan in the picture, though. If she can reach the Sermon on Mount Everest from something like this, evidently her heterosexual hubbie isn’t takin’ care of business…..
Monkeyhawk
Posted January 17, 2009 at 10:22 am | Permalink
P.S. — I was touched to hear from “HLP” that your natural mother is deceased. What happened? Did she shoot your dog?
I don’t see any accusation.
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It’s in bold, both the accusation and the “joke.”
You crossed the line. Please apologize.
And to those who are outraged? I offer this.
Maybe you’ve enjoyed the position of never having had someone “cross a line” in your direction.
Fine, “Pedant” –
Explain the accusation and the joke of –
“Did she shoot your dog?”
Gotta love that Olivia Newton John.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/accusations
“Crossing the line” again makes things worse, not better.
Monkeyhawk’s tawdry accusation, further cheapening Nathan’s relationship to his parents by its framing as a joke, isn’t justified by anything Regular or HLP or anybody else ever wrote here.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Like I said, nobody can make Monkeyhawk retract it, but if it stands then I’m afraid the damage to Monkeyhawk’s reputation is permanent.
Monkeyhawk
Posted January 17, 2009 at 10:42 am | Permalink
Fine, “Pedant” –
Explain the accusation and the joke of –
“Did she shoot your dog?”
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No.
Please apologize.
FilmFan – well written. That little boy could easily have been one of my grandkids – they would have given you a hug to make it all better.
I agree – we need to let them remain innocent as long as possible – climbing trees, scraping knees and all the rest. The ugliness of the world can come later. And I do not fear a gay adult – my rules there are the same as my rules for heterosexuals – keep your hands to yourself and we will get along fine.
Open thread, right? Anyone who liked Dire Straits should listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkrWqpymXLY&feature=related
There’s nothing less funny than an explanation of why things are funny.
I’ve read treatises about why a pie-in-the-face is funny.
It’s a waste of food.
It’s a non-lethal weapon.
It’s gooey and messy and the victim looks foolish.
The most important part of the funny is when the victim, instead of wiping the whole pie off the whole face ritualistically removes cream pie from the eyes… only to get hit by another pie.
There’s a Ph.D. thesis to be written about the mechanics and timing of Moe Howard poking his brother’s eyes with one hand, how his brother stops the one-hand ocular assault with a flat hand perpendicular against the nose, only to get both eyes poked by Moe using the two hands he had all along.
But it won’t be funny.
I think I had a far more disgusting funny yesterday when I imagined “Nathaniel’s” wedding night with Ann Coulter.
“predestined” or “FilmFan” or someone got it.
If you didn’t get it, it’s not funny. To you, anyway.
I liked the wording and the timing and the punchline. Pride of ownership. The curse of a wit.
Except those who don’t react tell me a lot about themselves.
Until “HLP” brought it up in an effort to rationalize his Christ-declared sin of adultery I had no idea of the corporeal status of “Nathaniel’s” birth mother.
But I did know a quite specific circumstance where “Nathan” would have felt justified for lethal revenge.
If some people didn’t have the predisposition that a “Nathaniel” might actually murder his mother for shooting his dog, the joke isn’t there.
I didn’t go “over the line.”
You did.
I walked right up to the line and wrote something and you “offended” ones jumped it.
Now that’s funny.
Here’s why…
Do we hold higher standards for some than we do of others?
Monkeyhawk just keeps exposing more of his ugly pink butt as he spins ’round and ’round. Let’s leave him hanging.
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JMWalker
Posted January 17, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink
Open thread, right? Anyone who liked Dire Straits should listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkrWqpymXLY&feature=related
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Probably the best rendition I’ve heard, thanks for linking JMW!
Monkeyhawk
Posted January 17, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink
Until “HLP” brought it up in an effort to rationalize his Christ-declared sin of adultery I had no idea of the corporeal status of “Nathaniel’s” birth mother.
But I did know a quite specific circumstance where “Nathan” would have felt justified for lethal revenge.
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No, you didn’t know any such thing. You assumed that you know such a specific circumstance. You only guess this is true for Nathan, and feel free to speculate on what Nathan might or might not do based solely on what Nathan has written here.
A clue for you: the odds that you know 1/10th as much about Nathan as you apparently think you know are very slim. After all, everybody who writes to a blog, even anonymously and even this blog, is very careful about personal disclosures. Everybody here actively shapes their own perception in the eyes of others, or takes steps to do so.
The point is that you can’t know as much about Nathan as you feel free to assume about him unless you’ve cultivated a long-lived relationship with him IRL.
Somehow I doubt that such a relationship exists.
In the absence of such a relationship your comment is tasteless. It’s couching as a joke merely lowers your comment and frankly makes it disgusting.
Please apologize.
What time are we meeting at The Anchor on Friday?
“Born on this day in 1706 in Boston, MA, the 15th of 17 siblings and the son of a candle and soapmaker, Benjamin Franklin gets a big birthday shout out today. Inventor of the bifocals, the Franklin stove and the lightening rod, as well as being one of the most heralded of America’s Founding Fathers, Franklin was the only person to sign all four documents that created the United States: The Declaration of Independence, The Treaty of Alliance with France, the peace treaty with Britain and the U.S. Constitution.”
“outlander”
Posted January 17, 2009 at 11:11 am | Permalink
“Monkeyhawk just keeps exposing more of his ugly pink butt as he spins ’round and ’round. Let’s leave him hanging.You misspelled:
Run away!
Run away!”
Pray for me, “outlander.”
That’ll help.
“Benjamin Franklin gets a big birthday shout out today.”
Speaking of adultery.
Happy Birthday Ben!!
http://faculty.sanjuancollege.edu/krobison/documents/Franklin-ChoosingMistress.htm
I love watching “Christians” killing “Christians”.
You know what they say about winning the gold in the Special Olympics…
Oh, sorry, that was insensitive.
If you ever shot any of my dogs, you would disappear.
Your car would disappear.
No one would ever find you or know what happened to you.
Posted by: Nathan | November 28, 2007 at 01:32 PM
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Now that’s a REAL Christian talkin’!
People wonder why Congress can’t get anything done.
Next I’ll post a list of 44 Baloney Bills introduced by just One US Congresswoman, Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila, between Jan 6 and Jan 9. That’s a LOT OF GARBAGE in just 4 days.
Now multiply that Garbage by 535, and you’ll see why Washington DC is sinking in manure.
They are totally, and completely incompetent and corrupt, seeking power and money for themselves, and not representing us at all.
And they think the American People can be fooled with Baloney Bills like the 44 shown below.
And guess what. Most of you are fooled.
Monkeyhawk
Posted January 17, 2009 at 11:45 am | Permalink
If you ever shot any of my dogs, you would disappear.
Your car would disappear.
No one would ever find you or know what happened to you.
Posted by: Nathan | November 28, 2007 at 01:32 PM
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Now that’s a REAL Christian talkin’!
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Provided without context, I note.
Let’s cut to the chase. In Nathan’s 2007 comment, was he responding to his mother?!?
Do you really not see the ridiculous leap you made? From a 2007 comment made by an (obviously) angry young war veteran to a blogger, you felt free to assume he’d feel the same about his deceased mother.
And you turned that into a joke at his expense.
Both of your real names are known to the blog. I don’t know what’s worse, that you feel free to make that ridiculous leap (for a cheap laugh no less) or that you fail to see how it lowers your own reputation.
Please apologize.
1. H.CON.RES.5 : Expressing that Congress has the sole and exclusive power to declare war.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
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2. H.CON.RES.6 : Expressing the sense of Congress that the Government of Iraq should not grant blanket amnesty to persons known to have attacked, killed, or wounded members of the United States Armed Forces in Iraq.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
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3. H.CON.RES.7 : Expressing the sense of Congress that the people of the United States should grieve for the loss of life that defined the Third Reich and celebrate the continued education efforts for tolerance and justice, reaffirming the commitment of the United States to the fight against intolerance and prejudice in any form, and honoring the legacy of transparent procedure, government accountability, the rule of law, the pursuit of justice, and the struggle for universal freedom and human rights.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
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4. H.CON.RES.8 : Expressing the sense of Congress that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued honoring Barbara Charline Jordan.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Oversight and Government Reform
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
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5. H.CON.RES.9 : Expressing the sense of Congress that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued in honor of George Thomas “Mickey” Leland.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Oversight and Government Reform
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
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6. H.CON.RES.10 : Supporting the observance of World Stroke Awareness Day, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Energy and Commerce; House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committee on Foreign Affairs, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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7. H.CON.RES.11 : Recognizing the disproportionate impact of the global food crisis on children in the developing world.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/8/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/8/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
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8. H.RES.28 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the Transportation Security Administration should, in accordance with the congressional mandate provided for in the Implementing Recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Act of 2007, enhance security against terrorist attack and other security threats to our Nation’s rail and mass transit lines.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Homeland Security
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Homeland Security.
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9. H.RES.32 : Recognizing the historic steps India and Pakistan have taken toward achieving bilateral peace.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/8/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/8/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
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10. H.RES.33 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the Government of Iran’s lack of protection for internationally recognized human rights creates poor conditions for religious freedom in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/8/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/8/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
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11. H.J.RES.10 : Denouncing the practices of female genital mutilation, domestic violence, “honor” killings, acid burnings, dowry deaths, and other gender- based persecutions, expressing the sense of Congress that participation, protection, recognition, and equality of women is crucial to achieving a just, moral and peaceful society, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
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12. H.J.RES.12 : Expressing support for designation of September 2009 as “Gospel Music Heritage Month” and honoring gospel music for its valuable and longstanding contributions to the culture of the United States.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/8/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Oversight and Government Reform
Latest Major Action: 1/8/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
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13. H.R.59 : To secure the Federal voting rights of certain qualified ex-offenders who have served their sentences.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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14. H.R.60 : To require the Secretary of Education to conduct a study and submit to Congress a report on methods for identifying and treating children with dyslexia in kindergarten through third grade.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Education and Labor
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Education and Labor.
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15. H.R.61 : To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide an alternate release date for certain nonviolent offenders, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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16. H.R.62 : To provide for the establishment of an independent, Presidentially-appointed Commission to assess the circumstances related to the damage caused by Hurricane Katrina on or between Friday, August 26, 2005, and Tuesday, August 30, 2005.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Transportation and Infrastructure
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure.
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17. H.R.63 : To amend title XVIII of the Social Security Act to require hospitals reimbursed under the Medicare system to establish and implement security procedures to reduce the likelihood of infant patient abduction and baby switching, including procedures for identifying all infant patients in the hospital in a manner that ensures that it will be evident if infants are missing from the hospital.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means; House Judiciary; House Energy and Commerce
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Ways and Means, and in addition to the Committees on the Judiciary, and Energy and Commerce, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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18. H.R.64 : To amend title 28, United States Code, to repeal the restriction on the jurisdiction of courts, justices, and judges to hear or consider applications for writs of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of certain aliens detained by the United States.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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19. H.R.65 : To recognize the extraordinary performance of the Armed Forces in achieving the military objectives of the United States in Iraq, to encourage the President to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe a national day of celebration commemorating military success in Iraq, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Armed Services; House Foreign Affairs; House Veterans’ Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Armed Services, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs, and Veterans’ Affairs, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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20. H.R.66 : To recognize the extraordinary performance of the Armed Forces in achieving the military objectives of the United States in Iraq, to terminate the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107-243), to require congressional reauthorization to continue deployment of the Armed Forces to Iraq, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs; House Armed Services
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs, and in addition to the Committee on Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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21. H.R.67 : To amend and to strengthen accountability features introduced by the Notification and Federal Employee Antidiscrimination and Retaliation Act of 2002, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Oversight and Government Reform; House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and in addition to the Committee on the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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22. H.R.68 : To increase the evidentiary standard required to convict a person for a drug offense, to require screening of law enforcement officers or others acting under color of law participating in drug task forces, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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23. H.R.69 : To reform the provisions requiring “one-strike” eviction from public and federally assisted housing.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Financial Services
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Financial Services.
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24. H.R.70 : To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide penalties for displaying nooses in public with intent to harass or intimidate a person because of that person’s race, color, religion, or national origin.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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25. H.R.71 : To amend the Federal Power Act to provide for enforcement, including criminal penalties, by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission of electric reliability standards, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Energy and Commerce; House Transportation and Infrastructure
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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26. H.R.72 : To increase global stability and security for the United States and the international community by reducing the number of individuals who are de jure or de facto stateless and at risk of being trafficked.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (1)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
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27. H.R.73 : To provide for the collection of data on traffic stops.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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28. H.R.228 : To direct the Secretary of Veterans Affairs to establish a scholarship program for students seeking a degree or certificate in the areas of visual impairment and orientation and mobility.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Veterans’ Affairs
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs.
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29. H.R.255 : To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the establishment of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (2)
Committees: House Financial Services
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Financial Services.
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30. H.R.256 : To enhance Federal enforcement of hate crimes, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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31. H.R.257 : To prevent children’s access to firearms.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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32. H.R.258 : To prevent the President from encroaching upon the Congressional prerogative to make laws, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Oversight and Government Reform
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
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33. H.R.259 : To amend title 23, United States Code, to establish national standards for State safety inspections of motor vehicles, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Transportation and Infrastructure
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure.
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34. H.R.260 : To authorize the Secretary of Energy to make loan guarantees for cellulosic ethanol production technology development.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Energy and Commerce; House Science and Technology
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committee on Science and Technology, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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35. H.R.261 : To provide that no Federal funds may be used by the Secretary of Homeland Security to approve a site security plan for a chemical facility, unless the facility meets or exceeds security standards and requirements to protect the facility against acts of terrorism established for such a facility by the State or local government for the area where the facility is located, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (1)
Committees: House Energy and Commerce; House Homeland Security
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committee on Homeland Security, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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36. H.R.262 : To prevent hate crimes, to provide support services for victims of hate crimes, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary; House Ways and Means; House Energy and Commerce; House Education and Labor; House Oversight and Government Reform; House Administration; House Financial Services
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committees on Ways and Means, Energy and Commerce, Education and Labor, Oversight and Government Reform, House Administration, and Financial Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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37. H.R.263 : To amend title 28, United States Code, to grant to the House of Representatives the authority to bring a civil action to enforce, secure a declaratory judgment concerning the validity of, or prevent a threatened refusal or failure to comply with any subpoena or order issued by the House or any committee or subcommittee of the House to secure the production of documents, the answering of any deposition or interrogatory, or the securing of testimony, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary; House Rules
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Rules, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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38. H.R.264 : To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to comprehensively reform immigration law, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary; House Homeland Security; House Oversight and Government Reform
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committees on Homeland Security, and Oversight and Government Reform, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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39. H.R.265 : To target cocaine kingpins and address sentencing disparity between crack and powder cocaine.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary; House Energy and Commerce
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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40. H.R.266 : To authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish a program to award grants to institutions of higher education for the establishment or expansion of cybersecurity professional development programs, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Science and Technology; House Education and Labor; House Homeland Security
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Science and Technology, and in addition to the Committees on Education and Labor, and Homeland Security, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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41. H.R.288 : To create a separate DNA database for violent predators against children, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/8/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/8/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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42. H.R.289 : To authorize the President to posthumously award a gold medal on behalf of the Congress to the seven members of the crew of the space shuttle Columbia in recognition of their outstanding and enduring contributions to the Nation.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/8/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Financial Services
Latest Major Action: 1/8/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Financial Services.
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43. H.R.380 : To provide for the establishment of a task force within the Bureau of Justice Statistics to gather information about, study, and report to the Congress regarding, incidents of abandonment of infant children.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/9/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary; House Education and Labor
Latest Major Action: 1/9/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Education and Labor, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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44. H.R.382 : To create a separate DNA database for predators against children, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] (introduced 1/9/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 1/9/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
Hank Price
Posted August 21, 2007 at 3:05 pm | Permalink
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/soldiers-find-d/#comment-199341
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Dear CF2,
ESAD
Hank
Here’s the link for more info on the above 44 CRITICAL Bills introduced to Congress this month.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d111&querybd=@FIELD(FLD003+@4((@1(Rep+Jackson-Lee++Sheila))+00588))
The Anchor must be the place to be in the coming week. Mary posted yesterday about a party Friday night there. A Tuesday night party is also being held.
Which one will we see you at, Fleetie?
NOW do you really wonder why our US Congress has the lowest approval rating in history after reading the list of 44 Baloney Bills submitted by One US Congresswoman, Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila, between Jan 6 and Jan 9?
If people would actually wake-up and pay attention to what happens in Congress, then maybe, just maybe, we’d elect Congressmen who truly represented us.
Instead, you have 535 nuts introducing BS Bills as shown by this example.
The police officer accused the person:
What happened? Did you rob the store?
As has been shown time and again, a kid has the best chance to become a happy, productive, well adjusted person growing up in a home with a mother and a father.
Outlander, let me ask you a couple of things, since you’re so convinced your above statement is true.
Do you think it’s mentally healthy for a child (or children) to watch their father beat their mother repeatedly? (Or a mother doing the same to their father, as happens in a few cases?)
Do you think it’s mentally healthy for a child (or children) to watch their father repeatedly have affairs with other women? (Or a mother doing the same with other men, as happens sometimes?)
Do you think it’s mentally and/or physcially healthy for a child (or children) to be beaten by a parent while the other parent stands by and watches?
Do you think it’s mentally healthy for a child (or children) to grow up in a family with a parent who continuously mentally and/or emotionally abuses the child/children or the other parent?
Can we agree that your statement should either carry an addendum or be reworded to add “growing up in a happy, productive, well-adjusted home with both a loving and mentally stable mother and a loving and mentally stable father”?
“Pedant” lives up to his name –
“Both of your real names are known to the blog.”
Only both of them?!
Ha-ha!
My middle name is safe!
“I don’t know what’s worse, that you feel free to make that ridiculous leap (for a cheap laugh no less) or that you fail to see how it lowers your own reputation.”
I think among the CONs my reputation couldn’t be lower. Mostly because you could dust their butts for my fingerprints after I’ve handed them their @sses so many times.
If you want context for –
“If you ever shot any of my dogs, you would disappear.
Your car would disappear.
No one would ever find you or know what happened to you.”
Ask that good “real” Christian “Nathaniel” for context.
“Let’s cut to the chase. In Nathan’s 2007 comment, was he responding to his mother?!?”
Good question. That’s why I asked.
Remember the question, “Pedant?”
“What happened? Did she shoot your dog?”
A question. Just like yours, “Pedant.”
Please apologize.
Pre-D – well said. While I agree with Outlander that ‘two may be better than one’ you correctly note that is one of the two is a ‘negative’ that rule does not apply.
I have seen far too much of the dysfunction you describe – and in those cases one is better than the “two”.
I could add that having Grandparents around is better too – but that is also not always possible.
Hopefully, the Bobby L. Rush Bill of Rights Subversion Act of 2009 will die alone and in the dark, friendless and with no co-sponsors. We shall see.
I know some view it as a non-starter, just a political attention-getter, not worth expending effort to oppose lest we use up “political capital” that will be needed for future battles. My own preference is to play Whack-a-Mole as these things pop their heads up, shine the light, bang the pots and pans, and drive them scurrying back under the baseboards. It’s my belief that the gun activist community can be sufficiently motivated –by the proper leadership– to walk today and chew gum six months from now. It’s also my belief that if they can’t be, if the detachment and apathy is truly insurmountable, we’re kidding ourselves about the Second Amendment anyway.
Here are some more impositions H.R. 45 would mandate that may help motivate interest:
It shall be unlawful for any person who owns a qualifying firearm to fail to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours after the loss or theft is discovered.
That way, if you defy this tyrannical edict through the time-honored liberty-promoting practice of civil disobedience, and refuse to submit to licensing and registration, they’ve got another federal count to charge you with. And as with the entire scheme, actual prohibited persons needn’t worry–they can’t be required to self-incriminate, you’ll recall…Heyyy…maybe that’s an “out”…?
It shall be unlawful for any individual to whom a firearm license has been issued… to fail to report to the Attorney General a change in the address of that individual within 60 days of that change of address.
The better to see you with, my dear. There is no place you can run, no place you can hide. There is no escape.
[I]t shall be unlawful for any person to keep a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm…within any premises that is under the custody or control of that person, if—
(A) that person—
(i) knows, or recklessly disregards the risk, that a child is capable of gaining access to the firearm…
Thus removing the obligation for training and discipline in the home (hey, that always works well) and opening the door for more pitchfork murders. And since this “law” has an ex post facto component, maybe the feds can prosecute a certain grandmother I know about…
Still, we are provided an “out” of sorts, that is, if we render our guns useless for home defense.
And there’s another curious exception if “the child uses the firearm in a lawful act of self-defense” that would appear to defuse my concerns, that is, if the minor can get and use the gun after it’s been locked away with a “safety device”…that one actually makes my head hurt.
“It shall be unlawful…it shall be unlawful…it shall be unlawful…” Hmmm…seems to be a pattern here of sorts…
Good grief, here we are minding our own business, and this despot wannabe won’t stop until he backs us into a corner where we either surrender cherished Liberty and submit to tyranny, or become criminals. I guess things must be pretty good with his urban Illinois constituency if he can ignore what it takes to go after real criminals… If he wants to create a whole ‘nother criminal class out of peaceable people, who aren’t responsible for the trouble and who simply want to be left alone…
Here’s another little bonus for freedom Rep. Rush felt compelled to add, “Sec. 404. Orders”:
The Attorney General may issue an order prohibiting the sale or transfer of any firearm that the Attorney General finds has been transferred or distributed in violation of this Act, an amendment made by this Act, or a regulation issued under this Act.
Oh. Is that anything like carte blanche for administrative gun bans under whatever pretext is convenient?
In a strange way, we actually ought to thank Rep. Rush for this bill. It demonstrates the intent of the gun haters, and highlights the path to their end game. It shows us what they’re really after when they use deceptive spin phrases like “common sense gun control” and “reasonable restrictions.” It puts to the lie disingenuous claims that they don’t want to take anyone’s guns away, that they respect the Second Amendment…
Still, perhaps it is unlikely this bill has any chance of passage…now. What confidence do we have that we’ll be able to make this same claim next year, or the year after…?
So what should you do? Like I say, I’m a Whack-a-Mole fan. You can find your congressional representative in my right sidebar’s “Political Resources” link list. Click on “US House,” find your congressperson (assuming you don’t already have that information, which you really, really should) and send him or her a clear message expressing your opposition to H.R. 45, Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009.
As for Rep. Rush, well, you could always send him a card…
http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m1d17-Kill-the-bill–volume-three
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean you’re wrong
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Posted: January 17, 2009
1:00 am Eastern
© 2009
There are going to be a lot of CAPITAL LETTERS in this column. In tech speak, this is known as shouting. Sorry to shout, but sometimes it’s necessary in order to be HEARD.
Recently, a friend sent me a sobering video clip. It features Texas State Rep. Dr. Susan Gratia-Hupp testifying before the U.S. Senate on the Second Amendment. It was sobering because Ms. Gratia-Hupp described the fatal mistake of not carrying her handgun the day she went with her parents to a cafeteria. An insane gunman burst in, spraying gunfire and killing both her parents along with many others.
When something tragic like this happens, people interpret it in one of two ways. Politicians and liberals think, “Aha. An insane gunman burst into a cafeteria and sprayed it with gunfire, killing many people. We need to ban guns. Of course, this won’t keep insane gunmen from getting guns, but that’s OK.” Constitutionalists and (ahem) normal people think, “Aha. An insane gunman burst into a cafeteria and sprayed it with gunfire, killing many people. We need to make it easier for law-abiding citizens to carry guns so this guy could have been taken down.”
There is a fundamental difference between these two responses. Unfortunately, it’s the former and not the latter response that gets turned into laws. This is because the latter position gives power to the people. The former position gives power to the government. Of course the government will choose the former. Duh.
But what riveted me about the video was not the horrible story of the gunman. It was Ms. Gratia-Hupp’s final words: “I’ve been sitting here getting more and more fed up with all of this talk about these pieces of machinery having no legitimate sporting purpose. No legitimate hunting purpose. People, that is NOT THE POINT of the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment is not about duck hunting … it’s about our rights … to protect OURSELVES from all of YOU guys up there.”
In other words, gun ownership protects US from THEM.
We always forget (or are NOT TAUGHT) that the Revolutionary War was NOT a well-armed militia fighting against a FOREIGN government. They were fighting their OWN government, a government that had grown from a “dangerous servant” into a “fearful master.”
Those who understand the Bill of Rights are paranoid that our guns are being taken away little by little. We’re told we’re wrong. When Obama condescendingly assures us that it’s not necessary to stock up on guns prior to his swearing in, he is deliberately missing the point. Guns aren’t just for homeowners concerned about personal safety. Guns are to protect US from THEM.
“Lawful gun owners have nothing to fear,” Obama smoothly told us in a December statement. “I think people can take me at my word.”
WRONG. We’re not taking him at his word – we’re taking him at his voting record. Fortunately, a lot of people don’t believe him, and that’s why gun sales are up 50 percent by some accounts.
What Obama and his ilk don’t want to admit – and by not admitting, they also DON’T WANT TO REMIND US – is that the original purpose of the Second Amendment was precisely that: to protect US from THEM. The abuses of government are kept in check by the threat of an armed citizenship. Only by recognizing the potential for the citizenship to actively defend their own GOD-GIVEN rights (”… that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights …”) will government officials abide by their constitutionally defined limitations.
Consider the following scenario. A robber is walking along looking for a place to rob, when the road splits. A sign pointing to the left says, “This way to Idiotville, a gun-free town.” A sign pointing to the right says, “This way to Toughville, where every household has a gun.” Which road do you think the robber will take?
Consider the following scenario: Politicians are walking along looking for a country to dominate, when the road splits. A sign pointing to the left says, “This way to Idiot Country, a place where the citizens passively roll over and do what they’re told.” A sign pointing to the right says, “This way to Tough Country, where everyone is armed and no one will give up their guns.” Which road do you think the politicians will take? Duh.
And now we learn that Obama has appointed Eric Holder as U.S. attorney general – an “anti-gun extremist who has assailed gun owners since his days in the Bill Clinton administration,” according to the Gun Owners of America website. Oh, but let’s not forget Obama telling us that “lawful gun owners have nothing to fear. … I think people can TAKE ME AT MY WORD.”
See? Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean you’re wrong.
You can’t admit to being paranoid, of course. That’s because paranoia is a mental condition, and Rep. Bobby Rush of Illinois is pushing a firearm licensing bill that requires gun owners, among other things, to submit their mental health records. Does spittin’ mad count as a mental condition?
But “criminals seek out victims who are not going to fight back or offer resistance, let alone shoot them,” observed Joseph Farah in a December 2008 commentary. The exact, precise sentiment can be offered with a one-word replacement: Politicians seek out victims who are not going to fight back or offer resistance, let alone shoot them.
But we’re too busy gobbling up socialized medicine, food stamps, welfare, subsidized housing, and business and mortgage bailouts from the government trough. The list of goodies we’re offered is endless, and endlessly diverting. As long as we’re getting everything free, we don’t notice what’s being taken away. Our heads are in the trough and our rumps are in the air, waiting to be kicked.
Thomas Jefferson prophetically said it best: “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
So shout it with me: Just because you’re paranoid DOESN’T MEAN YOU’RE WRONG.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86317
Eight Years in Eight Minutes –
http://tinyurl.com/a8c8bn
Jim Jones, you’re only as protected as the size of the weapon you have. So if gunman has a gun that can shoot 50 rounds per minute, that’s one full minute that he could take out 50 people *theoretically*. What are the chances that said good customer is going to have enough firepower to take down this guy, especially if he has full body armor?
I’m fine with you being able to have your little hunting guns, but if we outlaw the bigger badder weapons that have no useful purpose but to kill a lot of people quickly, then those bad guys won’t be able to obtain them, either by stealing them or by buying them underground, if there are none out there to be stolen and bought.
This is the argument psycho gun dudes….what is TOO MUCH for normal citizens to have? Where is that line before it is literally a Weapon of Mass Destruction?
We all agree that common people shouldn’t have nuclear weapons nor materials to make nuclear weapons. So if the general public shouldn’t have access to such destructive items, why should a gun that kills so many so quickly be allowed? The amendment does say ‘arms’, it doesn’t distinguish ‘guns’.
I still think that the idea being the second amendment was forthe people to protect ourselves from government. Well, sorry but they win. So the point of the second amendment now is absurd.
The 2nd Amendment is as irrelevant to reality in the 21st Century as is the 3rd.
This, on the other hand, is relevant:
http://tinyurl.com/7tuqqz
Political_mama
Posted January 17, 2009 at 1:10 pm | Permalink
“if we outlaw the bigger badder weapons that have no useful purpose but to kill a lot of people quickly, then those bad guys won’t be able to obtain them, either by stealing them or by buying them underground, if there are none out there to be stolen and bought.”
This is where PMama shows that Reality has completely passed her by.
Passing your law banning guns DOES IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, TAKE AWAY GUNS FROM CRIMINALS.
Dream a little dream Pmama.
Does the 2nd amendment protect my binary chemical ‘devices’? And my nuclear ‘devices’?
Oh, and Pmoma, what guns shoot 50 rounds in a minute?
Oh, and how many bullets does it take to kill one person, on average in real-life shooting situations?
Come on, show us all of your brilliant knowledge of Firearms.
Monkey I do get your point, really I do. But if you two keep trying to one-up the other, exactly how far is it going to go? Who can say the most outrageous, most hurtful statement ever? As a liberal do we really want to win the medal for ‘most hateful post ever’?
They’re words, there is only so far you can go with them before actions start coming of it. Let Nathan win ‘most hateful’. You don’t want it.
Palmer took an astonishing 22 hits, seventeen of which were to center mass, before succumbing to his wounds, and Officer Soulis was shot four times without suffering any serious adverse effects on his performance.
http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/articles/lom/0412/the_peter_soulis_incident.html;jsessionid=10BDC02F0CF4D0B083E43EA06A47B949pital
Hmmm, 22 shots to take out one bad guy.
How many rounds do you need for self-defense?
Yes it does Jones. Your idea is to keep putting MORE out there to be stolen by bad guys. Yeah that makes TOTAL sense.
How many machine guns do you suppose are out there right now? I guess as a bad guy, if you REALLY wanted to get one, you could probably find one. But it might take you awhile. However, if every other house had one, it’d be pretty easy to find one by breaking and entering, or buying one from a buddy who happened across one on his last break in.
You know I don’t have a great knowledge of guns, that’s why I said theoretically. How many should one weapon be able to kill in a minute before it should be banned?
We could apply this to world leaders too. If its not the gun that kills people but the person, why are we working so hard to keep the nukes out of the hands of korea and iran?
Enough Ammunition?
20 December 2000
SOP-9, as it is called, is NYPD’s ongoing statistical study of lethal-force incidents in which MOSs (Members of Service) are involved. It dates from the 1860s to the present and is a credible source of information, one of the few available.
For years, we were all told SOP-9 established the “average” number of rounds fired by an MOS during a lethal encounter was two to three. We later learned that figure was incorrect and was actually the result of sloppy statistical analysis. Naive statisticians simply took the total of all rounds fired outside of the firing range and divided it by the total number of shooting “incidents.” Unhappily, “incidents” included accidents and suicides!
A more careful analysis of the data (which included only intentional shootings) revealed the actual figure to be very close to six rounds. What that said to us all was that officers, when threatened with lethal violence, were firing every round they had in their six-shot revolvers. After six shots, there was a mandatory pause for a conventional reload or a “NY reload,” which consisted of producing a second revolver! After the reload, additional shooting was rarely necessary.
That was prior to 1994. In 1994 autoloading pistols were introduced to the NYPD system.
When autoloaders (mostly Glocks, with an occasional S&W and Beretta) came into the NYPD system, we all expected that figure (six) to go up into the teens, fully expecting officers to continue to fire every round they have. The latest data has shown our expectations to be incorrect!
The new “average” number of rounds fired is eight. Subsequent data may alter that number, but that is what we have now. What jumps out at me is that, after eight rounds are fired, the parties separate or accommodate to the point where additional shooting is not necessary, at least in the short term, even though the officer is fully capable of firing more rounds. NYPD shooting accuracy has improved steadily, but the average hit percentage is still below twenty, so, out of eight rounds fired, only one or two are likely to impact anywhere on the suspect. In most cases, hit or not, the suspect disengages and runs away.
If you’re wondering if there is a point lurking in all this:
If you have enough rounds in your magazine to get you through the initial exchange and still have some rounds left, you can then reload at your leisure. If you go to slide lock prior to the fight ending, then you’ll have to reload and resume firing on an emergency basis. We teach students to reload on an emergency basis in any event, but having enough rounds to get you through the fight without the necessity of a reload bringing about an inconvenient interruption would appear to provide a genuine advantage.
Debates about calibers, accuracy, and ammunition aside, a fifteen-shooter or even an eleven-shooter would appear to be a better choice than a seven or eight-shooter, at least in New York City!
http://www.theppsc.org/Grossman/Farnam/NYPD.htm
By all means Iran and Korea (N) that is..haven’t killed others….YET. Why should we try to keep weapons out of their hands?
Political_mama
Posted January 17, 2009 at 1:35 pm | Permalink
We could apply this to world leaders too. If its not the gun that kills people but the person, why are we working so hard to keep the nukes out of the hands of korea and iran?
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Yet ANOTHER demonstration that Reality does not visit the house where Pmama lives.
Pmomma attempts to equate the ability to control hundreds of millions of small firearms, to the ability to control the proliferation of very rare, deadly to handle, and very detectable radioactive material.
La La land for Pmomma, indeed.
Oh Mamma, you want to play?
By all accounts, I have not killed anyone, so why would you try to take weapons out of my hands?
Political_mama
Posted January 17, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Permalink
You know I don’t have a great knowledge of guns, that’s why I said theoretically. How many should one weapon be able to kill in a minute before it should be banned?
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Ahhh, and here enters the reason to not enter a gun control debate with a closed minded person who ADMITS to ignorance of guns, yet proclaims some sort of expertise in designing gun bans.
Typical Brady type…
Palmer took an astonishing 22 hits, seventeen of which were to center mass, before succumbing to his wounds, and Officer Soulis was shot four times without suffering any serious adverse effects on his performance.
http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/articles/lom/0412/the_peter_soulis_incident.html;jsessionid=10BDC02F0CF4D0B083E43EA06A47B949pital
Hmmm, 22 shots to take out one bad guy.
How many rounds do you need for self-defense? If you don’t care to defend yourself, do you bother to defend your spouse, your parents, your brothers or sisters, your own children? Or do you just HOPE you never experience CRIME in your entire lifetime?
Hope.
Change.
Hope.
Change.
That’s what those outside of reality are counting on.
JimJohnson
Posted January 17, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink
1. H.CON.RES.5 : Expressing that Congress has the sole and exclusive etc, yada yada yada . . . ad infinitum.
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jj’s evidently in a serious copy/past mode today. What, he thinks anybodies going to stop and actually read any of it? I guess when a neo-con has such a high regard for his/her own self importance, they feel they must inundate the rest of us with someone else writings in order to make themselves feel good. Give yourself a pat on the back: you accomplished not much of anything, other than to give some of us a good laugh.
Jones that was one rare event. The sad part is that you don’t see that it IS the same thing exactly.
You can keep the small arms. But do away with the guns that are designed simply to kill many others quickly.
Monkeyhawk
Posted January 17, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
“I don’t know what’s worse, that you feel free to make that ridiculous leap (for a cheap laugh no less) or that you fail to see how it lowers your own reputation.”
I think among the CONs my reputation couldn’t be lower.
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If I were you I’d worry more about your reputation among fair minded people of any political persuasion.
Among the unfair minded: don’t sweat it, you’re there like with a bullet.
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If you want context for –
“If you ever shot any of my dogs, you would disappear.
Your car would disappear.
No one would ever find you or know what happened to you.”
Ask that good “real” Christian “Nathaniel” for context.
“Let’s cut to the chase. In Nathan’s 2007 comment, was he responding to his mother?!?”
Good question. That’s why I asked.
Remember the question, “Pedant?”
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lol
Yeah, right whatever. /gag
Jesus, I feel like I need to wash my eyes after reading that whatever it was.
Ahem. All right. Don’t worry, you’re right: your reputation couldn’t fall any further. Certainly it has fallen so low now that you’re apparently incapable of standing up when circumstances demand it.
Well I see Obama wants to rewrite the Declaration of Independence.
Funny, I thought the first one was working just fine for 233 years……….
I found out who the cross-over voters were today. I was stocking up on ammunition and a new M4, and the gun show was packed. I mean standing room only. Cops in the streets directing traffic. Even the regular attendees were complaining about the crowds (I’m obviously a novice).
I’m betting you gun dealers crossed over. As well as gun manufacturers too!
They made a killing on me and I’ll wondering by the crowd walking out at sling arms, how many thousands of others too?
JM Walker,
I have never said anyone is not a Christian for not believing in Creation.
As a matter of fact, on several occasions I have clearly made the point that what one believes about creation has little to do with his salvation.
The only standard I have ever used is faith in Christ.
And the only two people I have questioned about being Christians are Chas and CapnAmerica who both have made comments concerning the diety of Christ which I believe are not Christian views.
I am no more arrogant than you.
“Nathaniel” pleas –
“…the only two people I have questioned about being Christians are Chas and CapnAmerica…”
And who ordained you to sitteth upon the right hand of God and judge the quick and the dead, boy?
You haven’t “questioned.” You’ve attacked. You’ve condemned. You’ve taken it upon yourself to judge the faith of others.
They nailed your Jesus to a cross and He prayed for their forgiveness.
Somebody expressed a nuanced theology different from yours and you’ve damned them.
What’s more I’ve frequently asked you, the good Christian, to show me the light, to lead me to salvation, to invite me to attend the one true church you claim gives you the right to decree who is and who isn’t a Christian, and you have refused.
You may think you believe in Jesus, but does Jesus believe in “Nathaniel?”
That’d take a pretty special guy.
For the record, I believe exactly what the Nicene Creed says:
“I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father, true God of true God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father . . .”
If Nathan doesn’t agree with that, he can take it up with the First Council of Nicea.
MonkeyHawk–
The only thing I regret about posting on this blog is getting hounded to “apologize.”
No one on the right has ever apologized, and no one is silly enough to ask them to, for we all know well enough they are incapable of shame.
It’s like asking Bush to apologize.
First, you have to be aware that you made a mistake, which Bush and the CONs never are.
Let them stew. “It’s just a blog,” as Regular always says . . .
CapnAmerica,
Both my father and I have apologized several times.
I have even entered into an agreement with you. One which you broke repeatedly and in the end mocked me for even pointing out that we had an agreement.
It doesn’t matter with you liberals though. No matter how many times I have apologized to Linda and even tried to make amends it didn’t matter.
No matter how many times my father and I have apologized to BlueJay when we have made a mistake or said something which was too offensive, it didn’t matter.
You sit here acting upset at the thought that we Conservatives would never apologize, when we have, and when we do, it doesn’t matter.
Typical liberal nitwit you are setting up a standard for us which even if we met wouldn’t matter one bit.
MonkeyHawk,
Pointing out that something someone is damned and actually damning them are two different things.
Does everyone go to heaven?
P_Mom–
Here’s all you need to know about guns.
Rifles shoot a relatively small load (or bullet weight) for long distances. Lethal range is up to 500 yards or more–possibly 2 miles under perfect conditions.
Shotguns shoot a large load of many little pellets a very short range. A lethal range firing against an adult male human, we’re talking maybe 75 yards.
Pistols are like rifles except with shorter barrels and so they are less accurate. All the disadvantages of a rifle, long lethal range-small load, with none of the advantages–accuracy and power.
Given these three choices, the clear winner for protecting oneself against home invasion would be?
If you said “shotguns” you would be absolutely right. That’s why the police have shotguns in their vehicles instead of rifles.
Shotguns are not as sexy as an SKS or an M4 or someother alphabet soup that the gun-huggers memorize and repeat to impress their cognosotti friends, but stick to a shotgun for self-protection and you’ll be fine.
I prefer the classic 12 gauge Remington 870 pump action for home-protection. It’s simple, holds five rounds, and nothing says, “you’re in a whole heapatrouble now, MFer” like that bolt sliding open and shut.
Uhm, no, “Nathaniel” –
It was Jesus who spent His time “…setting up a standard for us which even if we met wouldn’t matter one bit.”
Remember?
The Gospel according to “Nathaniel” declares –
“Pointing out that something someone is damned and actually damning them are two different things.”
Really?
Explain the difference, boy.
“Does everyone go to heaven?”
I dunno. I’ve never talked with anyone who’s gone there. Have you?
Peace in Gaza? I doubt it Hamas will not give up until they are laying flat on their backs. It’s the Islamic terrorists way. Israel is just kidding it self on a cease fire with Hama.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28651944/
CapnAmerica,
Many police officers have rifles in their vehicles. Several I know would rather take one of them to confront a hostile person than a shotgun as well.
I do agree, a shotgun is a great home defense weapon, however, a pistol is very accurate at ranges of 25 yards or less. When it comes to home defense, that is all the accuracy you need.
A pistol is easier to keep handy than a shotgun in the home.
A pistol can fire more rounds more quickly if you need to put down a target.
Of course you could get a automatic shotgun, but those typically are far more expensive than a pistol.
Unless you get a tactical shotgun, they can be rather long and hard to handle in the tight confines of a home.
A pistol on the other hand is very easily held and manipulated in tight spaces or around corners.
They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but depending on what type of shotgun you are talking about, I think that the average semi-auto pistol is just as good.
george – all the more reason to undercut them by working with Abbas – as pointed out by an Israeli prison guard in the leadin article yesterday.
Nathan – seems to me the shotgun would be better since careful aim – especially in the dark – becomes less critical. The old ’scattergun’ of my youth.
Political Mama,
So you would rather see people killed slowly?
Talk about sick.
Idiocy d’ jure: “The abuses of government are kept in check by the threat of an armed citizenship.”
During the McCarthy-House UnAmerican Committee witch hunt of “communists,” hundreds of Americans were thrown in jail, blacklisted and ruined by abuse of government.
How did owning a gun help stop that?
In the post-WW2 South, millions of African-Americans were not permitted by their own government to register to vote.
How did owning a gun get stop that gov’t abuse?
Ruby Ridge and Waco cultists stockpiled guns and dared the government to arrest them.
How’d that work out?
You really have to be rather a block-head to believe that the world’s biggest army–actually the most powerful army in the history of the world–is in anyway cowed by a Jim Johnson with his pathetic firearms. A dude in a modern tank wouldn’t even know if it got hit with a .45 caliber pistol . . .
Ben,
It all depends upon what you are comfortable with then.
It is far easier for me to keep a pistol readily available than a shotgun.
I can use my pistol for many other things and areas for defense. A shotgun would just stay at home.
Now, if you liberals would let me carry a shotgun in my truck, loaded, and ready to use. Well, now we are talking.
As I said, they both have their advantages and disadvantages, but the pistol is still a great weapon to have in the home for self defense.
CapnAmerica,
So, just how exactly was “Senator” McCarthy a part of the “House” Unamerican activities committee?
Also, P_Mom, a pistol takes a lot more training to handle and a shotgun barrel is a lot BIGGER.
One reason the old-time saloon keeper pulled a double-barrelled shotgun was simply the sight of those two big barrels pointed at you was enough for all but the suicidal to say, “okay, I’ll be going now . . .”
Nathan – I would wager that you are ‘just a bit’ more skilled with it than I am. Put me on a range and I’m pretty good – don’t know that it would translate to the ‘field’ any more.
The McCarthy hearings and HUAC were two separate things, as everyone knows. But the effect was the same–to find guilty without trial political opponents of the rabid right.
Ben,
I am pretty good. I have no doubts in my ability to use a pistol effectively in my home for self defense.
I simply find Shotguns to be rather unwieldy in the home unless you get a nice short barrled one with short stock.
You liberals want to allow me to own a shotgun with a barrel less than 16 inches?
Didn’t think so.
The very things which make a shotgun an effective weapon to have handy are illegal.
CapnAmerca,
Everyone knows? Then why is it that you liberals always confuse the two when talking about them?
Nathaniel posted January 17, 2009 at 8:35 am
I see the double standard now!
The sun can only be behind this cooling and not the warming.
When we were even suggesting that the sun was behind the warming you and the chicken littles were flipping out.
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Nathaniel,
Since you are a representative of “real” Christians on the WE Blog, is it safe to assume that you would not deliberately post falsehoods here?
Please list your source(s) that say that AGW scientists insist that solar has ONLY caused “cooling” since the mid-1700’s.
Was your source that favorite publication of AGW deniers, the ‘Journal of Strawmen’?
Perhaps an child in an eighth-grade debate?
Or a voice directly to you, from God?
Nathaniel, solar does not explain the warming observed since the mid-1970’s.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
CapnAmerica,
Many of the shotguns police carry have barrels which are restrcited for LEO.
It is great that they can have then in their cars.
Do you think that we should be able to own similar shotguns? That the LEO restrictions should be lifted?
Actually Nathan, I am NOT against gun ownership. I do, however, favor certain restrictions (background check for example) and probably even some sort of ’skill test’ not unlike what we do to get a hunting license these days.
Ive always kind of wanted use my samurai sword and morning star in a home defense situation would make for an interesting police report. My shotgun has a pistol grip and my hollow point rifled slugs would certainly make a mess of an intruder, used to have some shot gun shells that shot a 4ft flame that wouldn’t be good for home defense
Nathan you might ask Matt Clay how carrying a shotgun in his truck worked out for him. Hell the last time I got pulled over the cop freaked when I opened the glove box to get the insurance that he asked for Hate to imagine the outcome if I had my pistol in there
Happy birthday to Muntadhar al-Zeidi, the Iraqi hero who gave Bush a proper welcome to Iraq.
http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/world/2009/01/16/D95OEC2G0_ml_iraq_shoe_thrower/
FilmFan,
Your 10:30am posting was wonderfully well-thought out; and you did such a good thing in your answer to the child; you protected a youngster who obviously has a “heart” for the pain of others. He will have time enough to learn about the hurt and meaness in the world as he grows up.
As to questioning God and our faith, I think it can help lead us to a place of clarity in our lives. I think those Christians who cause the most trouble in the world are those who take everything in scripture and everything their preacher says literally and without ever even thinking about questioning; especially those who seem to base their faith in law and the named abominations in Leviticus rather than pondering the verses of God’s grace in the epistles.
Bless you!
My grandfather’s turn of the century (19th-20th) double 10 gauge, was a sight to behold. Barrels big enough to hold a half dollar coin.
That’s one weapon you did not want to pull both triggers at the same time or you would find yourself firmly implanted backwards on the ground. :)
Watching the weather just a few minutes ago and wondered about the warmer weather of (depending on the TV station) 55-62 degrees.
Warm huh?
However, it was 66 in 1923 here in Wichita. Guess if you wait long enough, you’ll see a repeatable cycle of cold and warm winters. :)
MH, Neither Nathaniel nor any other human can sit upon the right hand of God or damn you. However, we do have the Bible which tells us what God has to say.
JMWalker
Posted January 17, 2009 at 2:01 pm | Permalink
JimJohnson
Posted January 17, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink
1. H.CON.RES.5 : Expressing that Congress has the sole and exclusive etc, yada yada yada . . . ad infinitum.
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jj’s evidently in a serious copy/past mode today. What, he thinks anybodies going to stop and actually read any of it? I guess when a neo-con has such a high regard for his/her own self importance, they feel they must inundate the rest of us with someone else writings in order to make themselves feel good. Give yourself a pat on the back: you accomplished not much of anything, other than to give some of us a good laugh.
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Obviously YOU read it JM.
And if you don’t like these Bills presented, well, they are from YOUR Demorat Party.
You are then, a part of the party who offers nothing but FLUFF Bills in Congress. Then you wonder why your party has had the LOWEST rating of any Congress.
Go figure.
And who cares if the pistol bullets fly through the walls and into a neighbor’s house!
It’s handier!
Republicans never introduce any of these “fluffy bills?” Have you researched that? Or are you just being partisan? Fair or partisan? Huh? Don’t make us do your research for you, oh, fair and balanced one!!!!
And as to “only introducing fluff bills”, you know that is not true.
Why do you write things you know are untrue?
Just a reminder…for all those wanting top celebrate Obama’s inauguration…we’re getting together in the back room of The Anchor on Friday night..starting around 6:30. Hope to see you there!
CapnAmerica
Posted January 17, 2009 at 3:45 pm | Permalink
P_Mom–
Here’s all you need to know about guns.
Rifles shoot a relatively small load (or bullet weight) for long distances. Lethal range is up to 500 yards or more–possibly 2 miles under perfect conditions.
Shotguns shoot a large load of many little pellets a very short range. A lethal range firing against an adult male human, we’re talking maybe 75 yards.
Pistols are like rifles except with shorter barrels and so they are less accurate. All the disadvantages of a rifle, long lethal range-small load, with none of the advantages–accuracy and power.
Given these three choices, the clear winner for protecting oneself against home invasion would be?
If you said “shotguns” you would be absolutely right. That’s why the police have shotguns in their vehicles instead of rifles.
Shotguns are not as sexy as an SKS or an M4 or someother alphabet soup that the gun-huggers memorize and repeat to impress their cognosotti friends, but stick to a shotgun for self-protection and you’ll be fine.
I prefer the classic 12 gauge Remington 870 pump action for home-protection. It’s simple, holds five rounds, and nothing says, “you’re in a whole heapatrouble now, MFer” like that bolt sliding open and shut.
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Oh, in the home, no question, the Shotgun is the best choice.
Outside of the home, it’s a little difficult to carry a 7.5 pound shotgun around with you all day and keep it concealed.
Thus the Handgun, is the preferred choice for self defense of millions of law abiding citizens in the US who have a permit to carry.
The Handgun is also the preferred choice for all the criminals out wandering around looking for someone to rob, rape, and murder. And they look for someone like Pmom, who is physically weak and defenseless.
Here ends our gun lesson on self-defense for the day.
Amen.
“The Handgun is also the preferred choice for all the criminals out wandering around looking for someone to rob, rape, and murder. And they look for someone like Pmom, who is physically weak and defenseless.”
You are SO low class and ignorant.
Regular
Posted January 17, 2009 at 5:38 pm | Permalink
My grandfather’s turn of the century (19th-20th) double 10 gauge, was a sight to behold. Barrels big enough to hold a half dollar coin.
That’s one weapon you did not want to pull both triggers at the same time or you would find yourself firmly implanted backwards on the ground. :)
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That was a favorite of Wyatt Earp, a double barrel 10 gauge 3 trigger shotgun.
1 trigger left barrel.
2nd trigger right barrel.
3rd trigger both barrels at once! (Would cut any man within 20 years in half!)
“Ruby Ridge and Waco cultists stockpiled guns and dared the government to arrest them”.-The Captain
Hey fugface, don’t disparage the memories of those kids that were murdered by your love fest, coke dealing, piece of dung president. They all were murdered. You’re gonna make a joke out of it? What a depraved, mother fugging, shatface you are.
Things are a hell of a lot different now, there’s more of us that are on to the fix now, not just those at Randy Weaver and not just those who were LEGAL at Waco. I guess you’ve never watched “Waco: Rules of Engagement” eh?
Your man Obaaama’s (policies) just might be the straw.
You like it when I post huh?
You mean when the Davidian’s set their own house on fire? This Obama thing is driving you guys crazy!!! WHAHAHAAAA
So David, how many of the 44 Bills introduced by Rep Jackson-Lee are NOT fluff?
You’re response so far is incoherent. Please get a grip.
You DemoRats should be turning your guns & ammo in now.
You have no right to defend yourselves.
Give up now, waive your white flag, and hope that Obama protects you 24/7.
Waco & Ruby Ridge are Obama’s headlines for tomorrow.
Hide your babies now, so Obama’s cops don’t shoot them!
Like I said before..there is good medication for all that delusional paranoia.
Are you that disgraced Justice Dept lawyer Schlozman? You sound just like him…
http://www.opencongress.org/person/sponsoredbills/400199_sheila_jackson_lee
H.R.380 Infant Abandonment Prevention Act of 2009
H.R.382 Save Our Children: Stop the Predators Against Children DNA
H.R.288 Save Our Children: Stop the Violent Predators Against Children DNA
H.Con.Res.11 Recognizing the disproportionate impact of the global food crisis on children in the developing world.
H.J.Res.10 Denouncing the practices of female genital mutilation, domestic violence, “honor” killings, acid burnings, dowry deaths, and other gender- based persecutions
H.R.60 Early Detection of Dyslexia in Children Act of 200
H.R.63 To amend title XVIII of the Social Security Act to require hospitals reimbursed under the Medicare system to establish and implement security procedures to reduce the likelihood of infant patient abduction and baby switching
Yeah, terrible stuff…
A bill that would require the Homeland Security Department and the National Science Foundation (NSF) to establish a grant program to bolster higher education programs in cybersecurity has been referred to several House committees.
The bill, introduced by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) on Jan. 7, would have DHS and NSF start a grant program to help schools enhance cybersecurity education. The money could be used for professional development programs, associate degree programs and purchasing equipment to be used for training, the bill stated.
So yer plugged into a smear campaign to defeat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee? Won’t wash, buddy boy.
And Obama has arrived in town.
“You mean when the Davidian’s set their own house on fire? This Obama thing is driving you guys crazy!!! WHAHAHAAAA”-KingDavid
The tank threw an incendiary device into the place and BBQ’d those kids.
I could care less about “this Obaaama thing”, you dolt’s have made it a cult no different from the Davidian’s, that’s what I refer to, you fugwad. You treat Obaama no more different than those wives of Koresh treated him. And I see YOU as equally as dangerous as the Davidians. Good thing you all have no guts to protect yourselves, so any danger you pose, is strictly to yourselves.
And Mary, you sound really familiar with all of these drugs, how many do you eat a day Elvissa? And do they actually help you?
Clinton’s legacy wrapped up in one picture:
http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/elian2.gif
Obama’s “tough guys” will finish the job.
I target practice ONLY headshots.
I’m a psychiatrc nurse and I’d say you need to be medicated for your anger discontrol and paranoia. Maybe a little Seroquel or Resperdal would do the trick :)
The very least you “libs” could do in this celebration weekend of yours is to spend a couple of hours watching a good movie on history.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4298137966377572665
“fugwad”? You honor me, kind sir. Indeed a class act you are.
So the tapes from the bugging devices planted inside the compound where you can hear the Davidians talking about torching the place.. you have forgotten about that, maybe?
The multiple points of ignition, clearly seen on the infrared.. that was caused by one tank gas grenade.
You are being lied tom friend, I dunno what you are reading, but yer on a sad path.
Waco is a cottage industry catering to paranoid right wingers.. A money making opportunity like Rosewell Aliens and Kennedy conspiracy advocates.
Oh, so you know crazy eh? You’re an expert? You can diagnose? Doctors look to you for wisdom? Being a nurse and all, I can see why you should be so exhalted and respected.
Yeah, I have some HEALTHY anger and no, I’m not paranoid. Insanity is a perfectly acceptable and expected side effect of an insane world. I choose to see the world how it is, you’re the fugged up crazy one. You expect the world to bend to your delusional dreamlike existence. Listen up, the world has bad people in it. And all of those bad people don’t just belong to a group that you conveniently put them in. So take your, one-step above CNA, trade school, nursing certificate and shove it up your fat arse. Dig?
But look out, the Black Helicopters with Stealth Mode are back and we have your IP address now!!!!!!
Pleefer…Sorry you’re so bitter…being so angry must be a horrible, depressing way to go through life.
Maybe you should try the Serenity Prayer, that always works for me :)
Either the Serenity Prayer…or else just put the cork back in the bottle.
“shove it up your fat arse. Dig?”
Better to have a fat ass than to be one..LOL!!
Pleefer demonstrates his healthy anger:
“Hey fugface”
“What a depraved, mother fugging, shatface you are.”
“you dolt’s”
“I target practice ONLY headshots.”
“shove it up your fat arse”
If only I could be such an eloquent writer!
KingDavid, where do you get this stuff? Popular Mechanics?
And you’ll get to kick the WMD dead horse for time immemorial huh?
You’re the one biting on the lies. Chow down.
Mary, let me apologize for him. I think he is drunk… you do not deserve such ugly treatment…..
Did anyone see the NASA reports of methane detected on Mars? A stong indicator of biological processes on the Red Planet…..
“Mary, let me apologize for him. I think he is drunk… you do not deserve such ugly treatment….”
Thanks, David, but I’m not intimidated or insulted by people like him…
I just feel sorry for those who show the really ugly side of themselves because they can be anonymous behind a computer screen..it really shows a lack of character and low self esteem.
I have a steady control of my anger and writing on this thing is a sort of catharsis. I write extremely well, but when someone feels a need to insult me, I spit venom and bile. I make no apologies for it either. I use my mind as my greatest weapon and it’s razor sharp.
I need no “serenity prayer”, I’ll leave that for you addicts that have zero self control. Lay off those meds, if you get caught stealing those things, they’ll have your certificate, then you might…might be able to go back to CNA work again.
I’ll be the ass. For when the ass shuts down, so follows the entire body.
You insult me, Mary? And expect to get away with it?
You are delusional.
“I use my mind as my greatest weapon and it’s razor sharp.”
Add narcissist to your diagnosis…and you really don’t impress anyone like you think.
With that I’m saying good night…I really don’t enjoy the insults, put downs, and name calling. Have fun, Peefer, and take some aspirin before you go to bed..it’ll help with the hangover you’re going to have in the morning.
“You insult me, Mary? And expect to get away with it?”
I think I got away with it quite well :):):) Nite!
“my mind as my greatest weapon and it’s razor sharp..”
not the headshots you practice so hard?
I agree you “write extremely well”….
Worthy of a Pulitzer Prize or even comparable to Abraham Lincoln:
“Hey fugface”
“What a depraved, mother fugging, shatface you are.”
“you dolt’s”
“shove it up your fat arse”
First rate, buddy. Who felt a need to insult whom? I must be missing something here.. The shameful insults are all coming from the razor sharp mind of Pleefer.
I tried over these past few years to be decent to everyone on here. But the moment I don’t agree with your specific idealogie’s, I’m paranoid or need to be medicated, or whatever you divided people think of next. You all are so full of hubris and arrogance since your “team” won that you feel you can get away with any insult. I don’t let the fugs on the “right” do that to me and I sure ain’t going to allow you folks to do it either.
I ain’t “reaching across the aisle”, I know there isn’t one. I don’t care to be friends or even act like a friend to anyone on here. I care to inform. Now the genius that is KingDavid, will already know everything that there is to know about everything…and I am impressed. But not everyone is as gifted as he is. So I pass along my little pieces of “news”. But by all means, if YOU feel better belittling someone else’s views as paranoid, by all means, sling your poo. If your self esteem is lifted calling a perfectly sober and sane person an addict and crazy, go ahead, I will be your whipping boy, I’ll be the ass.
I use profanity when I’m “upset”? Your point?
I’m not Shakespeare, pal.
DavidB
Posted January 17, 2009 at 8:10 pm | Permalink
You mean when the Davidian’s set their own house on fire? This Obama thing is driving you guys crazy!!! WHAHAHAAAA
Remember? This is the part where youchimed in and started slinging mud, remember?
You actually believe that Obaama is leading something…
What a crazy world indeed.
Wow, wasn’t that interesting… I got here just in time to see Pleefer melt down.
America can use some hope for a better future… don’t you think?
Obama supporters and Democrats are happy we can now begin fixing the mess American is in. Even McCain voters show great hope for the Omaba years ahead. But hubris? I think not. We are fully aware of the rough road ahead and the hard work to be done.
It’s a shame some like you cannot get out and help push… Americans are known for pulling together when the times call for it:
“More than 80 percent of respondents said the nation was in worse shape today than it was five years ago.
By contrast, 79 percent were optimistic about the next four years under Mr. Obama, a level of good will for a new chief executive that exceeds that measured for any of the past five incoming presidents. And it cuts across party lines: 58 percent of the respondents who said they voted for Mr. Obama’s opponent in the general election, Senator John McCain of Arizona, said they were optimistic about the country in an Obama administration.” http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/18/us/politics/18poll.html?_r=1&hp
Well if “This Obama thing is driving you guys crazy!” insults you. I apologize.
I am sure you wish our next president success, even though you refuse to “reach across the aisle.”
As Shakespeare wrote:
“Experience, manhood, honour, ne’er before did violate so itself.”
I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to Obama. But the bail out was his first and largest mistake, even before he was sworn in. 80% of America did not want the bail out, yet he pushed very hard to get it passed. He’s already shown us just who he works for, the banker’s. Not us. But I’ll play along and “Hope for change”.
And I’m insulted that you think that I would be insulted about the Obaama comment in the first place. I don’t play party-lines, so reaching across a non-existent aisle doesn’t suit me.
Have you educated yourself and watched The Rules of Engagement yet?
It was nominated for an Oscar you know?
Have you watched it yet?
Of course not, because knowing the truth just cannot happen.
Can’t have those pesky lil’ freedoms now can we? Cause some nut’ll have em too.
And we already see what people are qualified on here to decide who are the “nuts” huh?
Whatever I’ve said to any of you tonight remember, “this is not an assault”.
‘Should Obama push a climate bill in 2009 or 2010? Part 1‘
Does a serious bill need action from China?
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2009/1/16/134334/095
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Leave the rest of the weekend, the Tuesday worship day, and the Michelle and Barack Obama God and Goddest savior day to the loyal followers of the new religious left.
Stay tuned to Wednesday, when Utopia is here to post again.
I think it is even more obvious that the climate bill we could pass in this country would be considerably stronger if we could in fact negotiate a strong, bilateral GHG agreement with China
Cosmos is just a f*cking idiot if he thinks China is “into” the Obama crowds love affair with the green peace movement. What a nut case. GIve up his own country – with a belief in the “world cares” and China will too belief.
Flowers in the hair.
DavidB posted January 17, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Pleefer demonstrates his healthy anger:
“Hey fugface”
“What a depraved, mother fugging, shatface you are.”
“you dolt’s”
“I target practice ONLY headshots.”
“shove it up your fat arse”
If only I could be such an eloquent writer!
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Well. . . Pleefer does personally represent the alternative to the two major political parties.
blogmonitor posted January 17, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Cosmos is just a f*cking idiot if he thinks China is “into” the Obama crowds love affair with the green peace movement. What a nut case. GIve up his own country – with a belief in the “world cares” and China will too belief.
Flowers in the hair.
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I’m not a f*cking idiot.
One party to rule them all, one party to find them, one party to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
Then I knew
(I knew, I knew, I knew, I knew)
she would make me happy
(happy, happy)
Flowers in her hair, Flowers everywhere
I love the flower girl
was she reality or just a dream to me
I love the flower girl
well i’ll show me the way to find a sunny day
(sunny day….)
Fade!
I love the flower girl
was she reality or just a dream to me
It takes a village.
Nathaniel,
Did you lose your source that you used to make your 8:35 am post?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-117-3/#comment-505235
Yes, I represent a resentment. Your two branches of the same diseased tree has ruined this country, by design. You, the dumbed down ignorant sheep of your respective branches, of course don’t recognize this fact. You are able, at will, to shift blame of whatever crises in which you have created either side of the tree. The outcome is obvious, no one ever has to really be held accountable for anything. Sure, maybe a janitor or a secretary gets thrown in jail, but the engineers of said crises, whomever he or she is will never have to answer.
Your “sides” create complex and completely unsolvable problems for each of your “sides” to fight about. The Hegelian Dialectic, honed and perfected over many years. Right in your collective, ignorant faces. But you’ve let your/our school system go to such extreme lows, that we’re all too dumb to figure it out.
I represent the quickly growing number of Fed up, REAL American’s (and yes, you folks are shells of what American’s are supposed to be) who are willing to stand up and take back our country from the criminals and cheats and thieves and liars that you’ve all let destroy any semblance of decency that we had left.
Have you watched it yet?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4298137966377572665&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1755692679103175934&hl=en
They overplayed their hand with 9-11. And REAL America ain’t so stupid anymore.
The Hegelian Dialectic, A dumbed down version:
They create the problem, you react and they have a ready-made solution.
Problem (thesis)-Reaction (anti-thesis)-Solution (synthesis).
Kind of like your little AWG war, eh Mr. Kramer?
Didn’t you get into some hub-bub for yelling racial slurs at your audience during one of your routines?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmo_Kramer
Pleefer again personally represents the alternative to the two major political parties.
Well done Pleefer. . . LOL!
“I’m not a f*cking idiot.”—comatose
Acceptance is the first step to recovery comatose…except it, it’s true.
accept it, it’s true, not except, above.
bigotbawks,
Whatever. bigotbawks has no facts, and no science to support his ignorant, confused rants.
“Well. . . Pleefer does personally represent the alternative to the two major political parties.”
Anarchy?
“Now the genius that is KingDavid…” – I think you mean King David Davis (not a relative).
Didn’t he run for Mayor of Wichita? What is his gig currently? I did a google search that was not very helpful.
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