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Yes, once again real scientists (not creationists obviously) find more data to support the ever growing irrefutable fact of evolution.
Origin Of Jawed Vertebrates: Prehistoric Fish Provides New Piece In Evolution’s Jigsaw Puzzle
ScienceDaily (Jan. 15, 2009) — In an article in the journal Nature January 14, Uppsala researcher Martin Brazeau describes the skull and jaws of a fish that lived about 410 million years ago. The study may give important clues to the origin of jawed vertebrates, and thus ultimately our own evolution.
Ptomacanthus anglicus was a very early jawed fish that lived in the Devonian period some 410 million years ago. It represents a type of fossil fish known as an “acanthodian” which is characterized by a somewhat shark-like appearance and sharp spines along the leading edges of all fins (except for the tail fin). This group of early jawed fishes may reveal a great deal about the origin of jawed vertebrates (a story that ultimately includes our own origins). However, their relationships to modern jawed vertebrates (and thus their evolutionary significance) are poorly understood, owing partly to the fact that we know very little about their internal head skeleton.
For more real science, not creationist BS:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090115103808.htm
MURDER SPREE BY PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO ASK FOR DIRECTIONS
by Ann Coulter
January 14, 2009
In a front-page article on Jan. 2 of this year, The New York Times took a brief respite from its ongoing canonization of Barack Obama and returned to its series on violent crimes committed by returning GIs, or as I call it: “U.S. Military, Psycho Killers.”
The Treason Times’ banner series about Iraq and Afghanistan veterans accused of murder began in January last year but was quickly discontinued as readers noticed that the Times doggedly refused to provide any statistics comparing veteran murders with murders in any other group.
So they waited a year, hoping readers wouldn’t notice they were still including no relevant comparisons.
What, for example, is the percentage of murderers among veterans compared to the percentage of murderers in the population at large — or, more germane, in the general population of young males, inasmuch as violent crime is committed almost exclusively by young men?
Any group composed primarily of young men will contain a seemingly mammoth number of murderers.
Consider the harmless fantasy game, Dungeons and Dragons — which happens to be played almost exclusively by young males. When murders were committed in the ’80s by (1) young men, who were (2) Dungeons and Dragons enthusiasts, some people concluded that factor (2), rather than factor (1), led to murderous tendencies.
Similarly, for its series about how America’s bravest and finest young men are really a gang of psychopathic cutthroats, the Times triumphantly produced 121 homicides committed by veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars in order to pin the blame for the murders on the U.S. military.
Perhaps the Times’ next major expose could be on how a huge percentage of murderers are people who won’t ask for directions or share the TV remote.
Let’s compare murders by veterans to murders by other 18- to 35-year-olds in the U.S. population at large. From 1976 to 2005, 18- to 24-year-olds — both male and more gentle females — committed homicide at a rate of 29.9 per 100,000. Twenty-five- to 35-year-olds committed homicides at a rate of 15.8 per 100,000.
Since 9/11, about 1.6 million troops have served in either Iraq or Afghanistan. That makes the homicide rate among veterans of these wars 7.6 per 100,000 — or about one-third the homicide rate for their age group (18 to 35) in the general population of both sexes.
But fewer than 200,000 of the 1.6 million troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan have been women, and the murder rate for the general population includes both males and females. Inasmuch as males commit nearly 90 percent of all murders, the rate for males in those age groups is probably nearly double the male/female combined rates, which translates to about 30 to 55 murderers per 100,000 males aged 18 to 35.
So comparing the veterans’ rate of murder to only their male counterparts in the general population, we see that Iraq and Afghanistan veterans are about 10 times less likely to commit a murder than non-veterans of those wars.
But as long as the Times has such a burning interest in the root causes of murder, how about considering the one factor more likely to create a murderer than any other? That is the topic we’re not allowed to discuss: single motherhood.
As I describe in my new book, “Guilty: Liberal ‘Victims’ and Their Assault on America,” controlling for socioeconomic status, race and place of residence, the strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison is that he was raised by a single parent. (The second strongest factor is owning a Dennis Kucinich bumper sticker.)
By 1996, 70 percent of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers. Seventy percent of teenage births, dropouts, suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents and child murderers involve children raised by single mothers. Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous and more likely to end up divorced.
A 1990 study by the left-wing Progressive Policy Institute showed that, after controlling for single motherhood, the difference in black and white crime disappeared.
Various studies come up with slightly different numbers, but all the figures are grim. A study cited in the far left-wing Village Voice found that children brought up in single-mother homes “are five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the boys), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home.”
With new children being born, running away, dropping out of high school and committing murder every year, it’s not a static problem to analyze. But however the numbers are run, single motherhood is a societal nuclear bomb.
Many of these studies, for example, are from the ’90s, when the percentage of teenagers raised by single parents was lower than it is today. In 1990, 28 percent of children under 18 were being raised in one-parent homes — mother or father, divorced or never-married. By 2005, more than one-third of all babies born in the U.S. were illegitimate.
That’s a lot of social problems in the pipeline.
Think I’m being cruel? Imagine an America with 60 to 70 percent fewer juvenile delinquents, teenage births, teenage suicides and runaways, and you will appreciate what the sainted “single mothers” have accomplished.
Even in liberals’ fevered nightmares, predatory mortgage dealers, oil speculators and Ken Lay could never do as much harm to their fellow human beings as single mothers do to their own children, to say nothing of society at large.
But the Times won’t run that series because liberals adore single motherhood and the dissolution of traditional marriage in America. They detest the military, so they cite a few anecdotal examples of veterans who have committed murder and hope that no one asks for details.
COPYRIGHT 2009 ANN COULTER
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Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Group sees ‘global governance’ as solution
Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama’s pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for “global governance” and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change. By Thursday, Mrs. Browner’s name and biography had been removed from Socialist International’s Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group’s congress in Greece was still available.
Socialist International, an umbrella group for many of the world’s social democratic political parties such as Britain’s Labor Party, says it supports socialism and is harshly critical of U.S. policies. The group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society, the organization’s action arm on climate change, says the developed world must reduce consumption and commit to binding and punitive limits on greenhouse gas emissions.
Mr. Obama, who has said action on climate change would be a priority in his administration, tapped Mrs. Browner last month to fill a new position as White House coordinator of climate and energy policies. The appointment does not need Senate confirmation.
Mr. Obama’s transition team said Mrs. Browner’s membership in the organization is not a problem and that it brings experience in U.S. policymaking to her new role. “The Commission for a Sustainable World Society includes world leaders from a variety of political parties, including British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who succeeded Tony Blair, in serving as vice president of the convening organization,” Obama transition spokesman Nick Shapiro said. “Carol Browner was chosen to help the president-elect coordinate energy and climate policy because she understands that our efforts to create jobs, achieve energy security and combat climate change demand integration among different agencies; cooperation between federal, state and local governments; and partnership with the private sector,” Mr. Shapiro said in an e-mail.
Mrs. Browner ran the Environmental Protection Agency under President Clinton. Until she was tapped for the Obama administration, she was on the board of directors for the National Audubon Society, the League of Conservation Voters, the Center for American Progress and former Vice President Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection. Her name has been removed from the Gore organization’s Web site list of directors, and the Audubon Society issued a press release about her departure from that organization.
SOURCE
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
Gee, “HLP” –
And all this time I thought we Liberals were responsible for birth control and reproductive rights which help address Coulter’s shaming of single parenthood.
Ann’s stats are skewed. The Iraq war didn’t go on from 1970’s, what a diluted statistic. Not only that, if she was arguing that only sexist comment that men are the only murderers, she should had taken army statistics of murder from before the Iraq war and after the Iraq war. Percentage.
But no, including women in that number obviously drives up the pool number to choose from, making the men’s group seem larger.
Ann blames single mothers for murderous children. But she got her azz handed to her when the VIEW girls asked her, why isn’t it the men’s fault for abandoning their children. THEN she changed her story to it being women who WANT to be single mothers. Well, does she have statistics to back up that women who have in-vitro cause murdering children? F no. She pulls her stats from the larger number, which of course includes poverty and mothers struggling by not being able to be there.
Women who choose single parenthood often have the resources and make fabulous parents. She leaves that part conveniently out.
I know many women who raised their kids by themselves and did a fabulous job. I’m sure she would be equally as critical of women who stayed with an abusive man, often sacrificing their children in order to “keep the family together”.
Thanks Hank for Bulemic Ann’s view.
The Republican vice-Presidential candidate Sarah Palin provided the world with a great example of “Christian” single motherhood with a drug addict grandma thrown in for the show.
Gotta love the Republicans for elevating the issue of single motherhood to Presidential status. A “knocked up” teenager in the White House is a prime example of Republican leadership….NOT!
Various studies come up with slightly different numbers, but all the figures are grim. A study cited in the far left-wing Village Voice found that children brought up in single-mother homes “are five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the boys), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home.”
By 1996, 70 percent of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers. Seventy percent of teenage births, dropouts, suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents and child murderers involve children raised by single mothers. Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous and more likely to end up divorced.
Even in liberals’ fevered nightmares, predatory mortgage dealers, oil speculators and Ken Lay could never do as much harm to their fellow human beings as single mothers do to their own children, to say nothing of society at large.
But the Times won’t run that series because liberals adore single motherhood and the dissolution of traditional marriage in America. They detest the military, so they cite a few anecdotal examples of veterans who have committed murder and hope that no one asks for details.
Another weather guy definitely off the AGW bandwagon. More common sense applied.
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MIKE SMITH: GLOBAL WARMING DOOM, GLOOM HAVEN’T OCCURRED
BY MIKE SMITH
For more than 20 years, we have been hearing doomsday predictions about global warming’s effects on Kansas and across the world. Locally, during the hot Kansas summer of 2006, forecasts were issued and media articles written tying that hot, dry weather to global warming, and forecasting more extreme heat in the future.
According to one scientist with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, global warming in 2006 was already “kicking the heat up a notch.”
But the weather has refused to cooperate with those forecasts.
More drought? The reality: 2007 and 2008 were the two wettest years in the history of Wichita. No area of Kansas is experiencing drought at the present time, in spite of all that hand-wringing just two years ago.
Extreme heat? The reality: The past two years, combined, had 21 fewer days than average with 90-degree or higher temperatures. Since 1990, there has been a downward trend in 100-degree or warmer temperatures in Wichita.
It isn’t just Kansas. In spite of the highest concentrations of carbon dioxide in the history of civilization, world temperatures have failed to warm the past 10 years. Ocean heat content is falling. World ice concentrations (Arctic and Antarctic combined) are higher than normal.
The 2001 forecasts by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (cited by Al Gore) have failed to capture the recent cooling, as the above graph indicates, suggesting that the carbon dioxide-atmosphere connection is more complex than some initially believed. A small but growing number of scientists are becoming concerned about global cooling due to the current unusually low solar activity and other geophysical factors.
The fact is that the solar-land-ocean-atmosphere system is incredibly complex, and meteorologists have no consistent skill at forecasting its behavior a year into the future, let alone decades hence.
I don’t know what 2009’s or 2029’s weather might bring, nor does anyone else.
The sciences of meteorology and climatology still have a lot of learning to do.
My personal conclusion: The science is definitely not settled.
Mike Smith is a certified consulting meteorologist and CEO of WeatherData Services of Wichita.
Probably, annie’s biological clock has run out. She will never be the traditionally defined woman.
She can’t occupy the box she so desperately wants to put others in?
She’ll still be spouting her same old crap and worse for the rest of her life.
HLP
Posted January 16, 2009 at 7:09 am | Permalink
By 1996, 70 percent of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers.
Maybe it is time for the courts to end the bias of the children belong with the mother.
I am surprised to see that p_mom isn’t up in arms about this. Equal rights and all.
How unabashed of the courts to make a decision based solely on the gender of an individual.
A debunking of the very misleading AGW denial presented by Lou Dobbs.
‘CNN is spun right round, baby, right round‘
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/01/cnn-is-spun-right-round-baby-right-round/langswitch_lang/in
‘Global Temperature Trends: 2008 Annual Summation ‘
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2008/
“Summary: The Southern Oscillation and increasing GHGs continue to be, respectively, the dominant factors affecting interannual and decadal temperature change. Solar irradiance has a non-negligible effect on global temperature [see, e.g., ref. 7, which empirically estimates a somewhat larger solar cycle effect than that estimated by others who have teased a solar effect out of data with different methods].
Given our expectation of the next El Niño beginning in 2009 or 2010, it still seems likely that a new global temperature record will be set within the next 1-2 years, despite the moderate negative effect of the reduced solar irradiance. “
“BlueJay” –
Y’know what must be “HLP’s” wet dream?
That his Boy finally loses his virginity by becoming Ann Coulter’s love slave.
Sorry, all, for planting that image in your brains. It really was uncalled for.
But consider:
It would involve an over-aged virgin seeing carnal nakedness and tiny sagging nipples, skinny legs, an oversized Adam’s Apple and ambiguous genitals.
On the other hand, “Nathaniel” would have to look at Coulter.
Why does hansen refuse to reveal his number fudging algorithm? Is hansen’s algorithm peer reviewed?
Dear Hank,
What do you think about your friend Morano?
And how many columns did you copy/paste from his ‘400′ list. . .?
Morano disqualified his own list.
‘Roy Spencer: Inhofe 650 is bogus!‘
Marc Morano agrees that only experts in climate feedbacks can make judgments on climate
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2009/1/14/11568/7296
Rattle the baboon cage early in the morning and they throw their sh it through the bars the rest of the day!
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HLP
Posted January 16, 2009 at 7:11 am | Permalink
Even in liberals’ fevered nightmares, predatory mortgage dealers, oil speculators and Ken Lay could never do as much harm to their fellow human beings as single mothers do to their own children, to say nothing of society at large.
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Oh, I don’t know, Hank: ripping off 38 billion dollars from the life savings of average, hard working Americans probably led to more than one suicide. And Damn those single mothers for not forcing their childrens fathers to stay and help raise the kids. Maybe they should be issued 45 semi-autos, so they can keep the fathers there at gunpoint.
My point, Hank, is using the blond twit as a source of statistics of any kind is about as counter-productive to finding a solution to the problem as it can get. She feeds on the negative, and has little, if anything, positive to bring to any discussion. Ever wonder why she’s still single? Maybe she’s waiting for Nathan:-)
What has algore done with that $300,000,000.00 to rebrand “Global Warming”?
D amn this global warming . . . I’m going to have to buy me a warmer coat.
“Maybe it is time for the courts to end the bias of the children belong with the mother.”
I’ve heard of this bias. And certainly most kids do seem to end up with the mother. Though this was not my personal experience.
Perhaps, in most cases the mother is the better parent? At least as determined by a judge charged with making such decisions.
Though this was not my personal experience.
Bully for you.
Perhaps, in most cases the mother is the better parent? At least as determined by a judge charged with making such decisions.
In Texas and Michigan (most counties therein) if the mother is not smoking crack, while shooting up heroin and sexually propositioning the bailiff in front of the judge, the mother is deemed ‘the better parent’. Sexual bias. Period.
Oh, Lawd! Monkeyhawk! Thanks for providing the mirth and merriment this fine morning. ‘Cause I need it after a heapin’ helpin’ of Coultergeist.
You know what? I can’t take any more of the Hermaphrodite from Hayull so early in the morn. I’m losing huge chunks of my hair every morning, and I’m worried I’m suffering from Hysterical Alopaecia – that’s the same malady that struck Monaco’s Princess Caroline so years back.
And I don’t got the b–ch’s money to fall back on like she did. Her tresses eventually grew back – but the b–ch looked like a hairy handball until it did. My hair’s always been thick as a brick – so I’m not bald. Yet. But I’m scared I’m gonna look like Persis Khambatta, the bald chick who banged Dr. Spock in one of the “Star Trek” movies, before too long.
Oh well, I’m sure Poke-Salad Annie would blame it on my being raised by a “single mother.” As if my dead drunk of a daddy made any difference. (Hint: He didn’t.)
Who would pork this putrid pipsqueak without being Roofie-ed? I can’t think of anyone…….
Funny that. UHI adjustments would trend temperatures down, as a falsely high temperature would be recorded due to the UHI effect. Seems the adjustments went the other way though…
Animation —
http://climate-skeptic.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54eeb9dc18834010535ef5d49970b-pi
outlander posted January 16, 2009 at 7:13 am
Another weather guy definitely off the AGW bandwagon. More common sense applied.
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outlander. . . Thank you for the laughs!
BTW: “Weather guys” are trained that solar is constant.
A man was sitting on the edge of the bed, observing
his wife, looking at herself in the mirror. Since her birthday was not far off he asked what she’d like to have for her Birthday.
‘I’d like to be six again’, she replied, still looking in the mirror.
On the morning of her Birthday, he arose early,
made her a nice big bowl of Lucky Charms, and
then took her to Six Flags theme park. What a day!
He put her on every ride in the park; the Death Slide,
the Wall of Fear, the Screaming Monster Roller Coaster, everything there was.
Five hours later they staggered out of the theme park.
Her head was reeling and her stomach felt upside down.
He then took her to a McDonald’s where he ordered her
a Happy Meal with extra fries and a chocolate
shake.
Then it was off to a movie, popcorn, a soda pop, and her favorite candy, M&M’s. What a fabulous adventure! Finally she wobbled home with her husband and collapsed into bed exhausted. He leaned over his wife with a big smile and lovingly asked, ‘Well Dear, what was it like being six again?’
Her eyes slowly opened and her expression suddenly
changed. ‘I meant my dress size, you ret*rd!!!!’
The moral of the story: Even when a man is listening,
he is still going to get it wrong.
It may be that traditional (conservative) perspectives as to gender roles come back to bite us in unexpected ways.
In a strictly pragmatic sense, the bias towards women as custodial parent makes sense. Fathers can continue to be tapped for support and most women will eventually attract another man whose resources she will presumably share with the children in her custody. That’s the simple math. Real life experience may vary.
I forgot to mention that the article by Mike Smith is in today’s print version of the Eagle, complete with graph. The link is at: http://www.kansas.com/opinion/story/664997.html
BlueJay
Posted January 16, 2009 at 8:05 am | Permalink
It may be that traditional (conservative) perspectives as to gender roles come back to bite us in unexpected ways.
Fair enough, but doesn’t remove the sexism.
In a strictly pragmatic sense, the bias towards women as custodial parent makes sense. Fathers can continue to be tapped for support and most women will eventually attract another man whose resources she will presumably share with the children in her custody. That’s the simple math. Real life experience may vary.
How very socialist and sexist of you. You presume the male to be the predominant bread winner while implying that a) a woman is not capable of supporting herself and her children and that b) a woman needs at least one other man to be solvent. In your scenario, she needs two.
I breathlessly await p_mom’s tirade on how sexist you are.
Any odds takers out there that p_mom fails to put JR in his place for his sexist remarks?
outlander posted January 16, 2009 at 8:08 am
I forgot to mention that the article by Mike Smith is in today’s print version of the Eagle, . . .
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And of course, since it’s an “Opinion” PRINTED in a newspaper, then it must be 100% scientifically accurate. /sarcasm OFF
Nathaniel and other AGW deniers,
Maybe if you read this enough times, you will understand it?
‘What’s in a name? Global warming vs. climate change‘
http://globalclimatechange.jpl.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=32
jm, you say dwelling on the negative, name one time you and your friends have ever done anything but dwell on the negative. you can start with today’s posts. thx
And of course, since it’s an “Opinion” PRINTED in a newspaper, then it must be 100% scientifically accurate. /sarcasm OFF
Isn’t the IPCC report an opinion based on supposedly accurate reports?
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SolDevVB
Posted January 16, 2009 at 7:54 am | Permalink
Funny that. UHI adjustments would trend temperatures down, as a falsely high temperature would be recorded due to the UHI effect. Seems the adjustments went the other way though…
Animation —
http://climate-skeptic.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54eeb9dc18834010535ef5d49970b-pi
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That is strange Sol. The UHI (Urban Heat Island) effect would seem, in all logic to have had a warming effect. Yet the adjustment for it is upward? If we are going to understand this, we need to suspend our common sense.
“If we are going to understand this, we need to suspend our common sense.”
Of course you do.
That’s why it’s called Faith.
Praise be.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 16, 2009 at 7:27 am | Permalink
‘Global Temperature Trends: 2008 Annual Summation ‘
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2008/
“Summary: The Southern Oscillation and increasing GHGs continue to be, respectively, the dominant factors affecting interannual and decadal temperature change. Solar irradiance has a non-negligible effect on global temperature [see, e.g., ref. 7, which empirically estimates a somewhat larger solar cycle effect than that estimated by others who have teased a solar effect out of data with different methods].
Given our expectation of the next El Niño beginning in 2009 or 2010, it still seems likely that a new global temperature record will be set within the next 1-2 years, despite the moderate negative effect of the reduced solar irradiance. “
And of course, since it’s an “Opinion” PRINTED in a newspaper, then it must be 100% scientifically accurate. /sarcasm OFF
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Just like the computer model predictions that you worship.
You should open yours eyes to reality instead of blindly following your faith..
Praise be.
I was not attempting to evaluate it one way or the other there solie. I DID say that it was simple math and real life experience may vary. My ability to evaluate it clinically probably comes from the fact I don’t have any emotion in my analysis.
Why can’t cosMo understand that the AGW abandoned the “climate change” label for the “global warming”. Instead he lies by saying skeptics don’t understand. He believe that AGW is an exact science.
Praise be
BlueJay,
While your intentions may have been innocent, I am hoping you can still see the sexism in your statement.
Not picking nits(sp?), but honestly, take a look at what you wrote from a gender neutral perspective.
‘It may be that traditional (conservative) perspectives as to gender roles come back to bite us in unexpected ways.”
You read it and reposted it. Didn’t it get through?
I’m no champion of the traditional (conservative) definitions of gender roles and I SAID so.
“I’m no champion of the traditional (conservative) definitions of gender roles and I SAID so.”
Like the man goes and gets a job, deadbeat?
Or like maybe the man quits his former job because his employer insists he puts it ahead of his child fleetie? Then finds a way to earn a living that also enables him to raise a child alone?
Stick with fap fap fleetie. Leave the family matters to folks with better qualifications.
I’m no champion of the traditional (conservative) definitions of gender roles and I SAID so.
This statement would seem to prove otherwise…
BlueJay
Posted January 16, 2009 at 8:05 am | Permalink
…
In a strictly pragmatic sense, the bias towards women as custodial parent makes sense. Fathers can continue to be tapped for support and most women will eventually attract another man whose resources she will presumably share with the children in her custody. That’s the simple math. Real life experience may vary.
AGW deniers are not intelligent enough to understand this.
‘What’s in a name? Global warming vs. climate change‘
http://globalclimatechange.jpl.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=32
“That’s the simple math. “
“That’s the simple math. “
“That’s the
simplesexist math. “Screw what you want to call it and algore’s $300,000,000.00 to rebrand…
cosmos, why does hansen refuse to reveal his number fudging algorithm? Is hansen’s code peer reviewed?
BlueJay
Posted January 16, 2009 at 8:56 am | Permalink
Or like maybe the man quits his former job because his employer insists he puts it ahead of his child fleetie?
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Somebody help me here. Is this reason nine or ten BlueJay has given for being a deadbeat?
It is little wonder science eludes you solie.
You seem unable to understand the concept of clinical analysis. I can’t stay to help you with that.
We’ve got the health reason, victim of industrial solvents.
We’ve got the ‘too principaled to work for the man’ excuse.
What others over the years? Help me here.
Now the latest, he quit a job with health care benefits to deadicate his life to whining because the government won’t provide healtcare for his son.
Maybe the WEBlog will someday provide benefits to the BLOG monitor!
I can’t stay to help you with that.
Cut and run BJ. It is about the best you have today on your sexism and lack of any valid points on “Climate Change®″
“Climate Change ® “
DAMN HTML FILTER !!!!!
®
FREAKIN THING!!!
BlueJay,
I doubt that anyone can help SolDevVB understand anything — and the same for the other AGW deniers.
‘Global Temperature from GISS, NCDC, HadCRU‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/giss-ncdc-hadcru/
It’s been about a week now and cosmos still can’t tell me why hansen refuses to release his number fudging algorithm and if his code is peer reviewed.
She can’t answer that of course, because that would undermine her whole global warming scare.
I’ll give you some time comsos. See if realclimate can help you out with it.
I have the facts ready to go; you get to draw first blood though.
Praise be to “Climate Change © “
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wichhick
Posted January 16, 2009 at 8:24 am | Permalink
jm, you say dwelling on the negative, name one time you and your friends have ever done anything but dwell on the negative. you can start with today’s posts. thx
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I would gladly follow through with that, but I’m afraid since you already have your mind made up, it would fall on deaf ears. wlcm
Dr. Hansen’s group produces the GISS data.
‘Global Temperature from GISS, NCDC, HadCRU‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/giss-ncdc-hadcru/
Since Hank can’t seem to get the hint about his spreading of Coulter feces on the fine walls of our Open Thread, a little balance for the masses.
Who was President on 9/11?
As the rehabilitation tour of George W. Bush finally, at long last, not soon enough for me, ends (we can only hope), tonight we will yet be treated to one more moment of pure alternative universe when our current president says a final farewell. The constant theme from Bush and Cheney, but also their apologists, as well as their bloviating sycophants on wingnut radio, is that Bush will be remembered for keeping America safe. When evaluating President Bush’s presidency, everything for Republicans begins on September 12, 2001.
Ignored is the PDB: Bin Laden Determined to Attack in U.S. Ignored is that Bush was on vacation when he got that warning, but stayed on vacation and did nothing. Ignored was the fact that Richard Clarke’s position focusing on terrorism, which had been a cabinet level post during WJC’s presidency, was neutered so that Clarke couldn’t even get a substantive meeting on the threats we faced until it was way too late. Ignored is the fact that all summer there were hair on fire warnings about something big about to happen. Ignored is the fact that WJC and his national security team warned Bush about the threats and Al Qaeda, but because of Bush-Cheney’s Anything But Clinton philosophy, they ignored the threats already known and went it alone. People paid with their lives.
Republicans even blame WJC for 9/11, ignoring who was actually in charge the day of the carnage. That said, there is enough blame to go around, it’s just that Bush never accepts any at all. Funny how in 1993, when the very first World Trade Center bombing happened just months after WJC came into office, that was never blamed on Bush 41. …or that the hits we took in Lebanon on Reagan’s watch were never calculated, when so many years later the Republican in office remained clueless about terrorism. Considering it was C.I.A. Director Casey under Reagan that helped fund bin Laden in Afghanistan, this is no small point.
Campbell Brown (video here) quoted Bush from Larry King’s interview this week, where the president said something truly stunning. When asked if we had ever come close to catching Osama bin Laden, the president didn’t have a clue:
King: Did we ever come close?
Bush: I don’t know. I can’t answer that.
From “dead or alive” to who knows?
Never addressed by Republicans is how many more enemies the U.S. has today than we did before Bush and Cheney’s foreign policy laid waste to our strategic alliances. To Republicans, led by the noise machine on wingnut radio, helped along by Fox news, everything for George W. Bush begins on 9/12. It’s really the most glaring insult of Bush’s rehabilitation tour. Republicans want people to forget that not only was Bush caught unprepared on 9/11, but that once he regained his composure he not only let the culprit get away, but to this day he has no idea of what progress, if any, we’ve made in catching the man behind the largest post WWII attack in our country’s history.
Even if Bin Laden is simply a symbol at this late date, that the commander in chief of this country hasn’t a clue of our progress to bring him to justice says everything about George W. Bush as he leaves office.
Seven years later, Bin Laden remains the man who got away.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/who-was-president-on-911_b_158253.html
So you still can not answer the two very simple questions. Gotcha.
SolDevVB posted January 16, 2009 at 9:30 am
I have the facts ready to go; you get to draw first blood though.
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Knock yourself out, SolDevVB. Your ignorance about science just makes the AGW science stronger.
(Excuse me if I don’t waste my time pointing out your errors.)
And don’t forget to also attack the NCDC and HadCRU data sets, which are very similar to GISS. And also the satellite data.
So, by lack of anyone on the blog responding, it would seem no one knows why hansen hold’s his number fudging algorithm secret and that his code is not peer reviewed. Makes the following make that much more sense:
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NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) publishes a global temperature index.
The temperature record is contaminated by the effects of urban development and land use changes. NASA applies an “urbanization adjustment” to adjust the temperature histories to eliminate these effects. The resulting GISS temperature index is supposed to represent what the temperatures would have been in the absence of urbanization and land use changes. Most scientists assume that these adjustments are done correctly.
An audit by researcher Steve McIntyre reveals that NASA has made urban adjustments of temperature data in its GISS temperature record in the wrong direction, with almost as many urban areas adjusted to show more warming as less warming.
The audit shows that 74% of the USA stations are adjusted, but only 37% of the rest of the world stations are adjusted. There are almost as many negative adjustments as positive adjustments in the rest of world stations. The contiguous USA land area is only about 7% of the world surface area, so the other stations have a much larger effect on the global temperature index.
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The GISS sites are defined to be “rural” if the town has a population of under 10,000.
Unfortunately, the population data utilized by GISS to classify the stations is out of date. Stations at cities with populations greatly exceeding 10,000 are incorrectly classified as rural. For example, in Peru, there are 13 stations classified as rural. Of these, one station is located at a city with a population of 400,000. Five stations are at cities with populations between 50,000 and 135,000.
Steve McIntyre says here, “If the supposedly “rural” comparanda are actually “urban” or “small” within the Hansen definitions, then the GISS “adjustment” ends up being an almost completely meaningless adjustment of one set of urban values by another set of urban values. No wonder these adjustments seem so random.”
Here is an example of an urban negative adjustment from Peru:
Note that the raw data shows no warming, but after applying the GISS urban adjustment, the adjusted data shows a significant warming trend. The adjustments are applied to reduce the past temperatures by up to 3 degrees Celsius. This is a very large adjustment when compared to the total warming of the twentieth century of 0.6 Celsius estimated by the IPCC.
The data shows that the stations classified as rural are almost as likely to have as much a warming trend as urban stations. Why would almost half of the urban stations have lower warming trends than the nearby rural stations? It is very unlikely that heat sources near urban stations were gradually removed.
A population increase of 500 in a town of 2000 people would have a much larger effect on temperature measurements than the same increase in a city of 500,000 people. A city with a growing population generally increases its area. A temperature station inside the city would be little affected by the expansion of the suburbs. However, a temperature station located just outside a city would be greatly affected by the city expanding around the station. This effect is shown in the following diagram.
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/URBANIZATION_IN_THE_TEMPERATURE_DATA_BASES.pdf
Hey Hank!
I’ll bet you my mut dog can do more tricks than any of yours!!!
Check her out:
http://www.idodogtricks.com/index_flash.html
To clarify, Hanks position is every girl/woman in spite of age and marital status should be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy. Then society should judge if the mother is fit to keep the kid, since she’s unmarried.
While studying individual station histories, McIntyre found an anomaly in the US surface temperature anomaly record kept by GISS. GISS investigated, found an error and incorporated a correction in their data set within 2 days. The error affects the US surface temperature anomaly record, which for years 2000-2006 reduces the temperature anomaly by about 0.15°C.
It made no perceptible difference to the global mean anomaly, nor to the rankings of the globally warmest years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_McIntyre
Huffington Post, Steven? You bring crap from the Huffington Post and complain about Coulter?
LOL
SolDevVB,
Thank you very much.
Now attack the NCDC and HadCRU data sets.
And attack the satellite data, which shows a strong correlation to the surface data.
‘What’s Up With That?‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/whats-up-with-that/
hehehe
According to your link, Cosmos, it appears that we’ve been in a ten year global cooling phase!
Look at your graphs!
OOOHHH NNNOOO !!!! we’re warming . . . . NO, we’re cooling . . . OH, WAIT !! .. we’re warming .. OR IS IT .. we’re cooling . . . . Oh, what the Hell .. we’re ALL gonna die
LOL! Is that supposed to be a defense of A. Coulter? You find a racist, hateful lying post on Huffington.. Just try.
Another important issue is station dropout. Over 2/3rds of the world’s stations, many rural areas in the FSU stopped reporting around 1990. Climatologist David Legates at the University of Delaware are prepared this animation. See the lights go out in 1990.
The animation above shows that Siberia is one area with the biggest change
In the chart above you see the number of global sites drops off coincident with the sudden rise in mean of all remaining stations. Jonathan Drake did this analysis below of the broken down by rural, suburban and urban categories. It clearly shows the big dropoff of rural stations.
Average temperatures for the station categories jumped when the stations dropped out, suggesting that it was mainly due to colder stations were no longer in the record.
The global data bases all compile data into grid squares globally and calculate the temperatures for the box using data from stations (already adjusted) within that box or using the closest stations weighted by distance in nearby boxes.
Thus a grid square, which at one time had rural stations now gone, will find temperatures increasingly determined by urban areas in that box or distant boxes. This is why the global data bases suggest the greatest warming has been in Siberia where the greatest dropout occurred.
Also a factor is that in the Soviet era, the cities and towns temperatures reportedly determined allocations of funds and fuel, so it is believed that the cold was exaggerated in the past which introduced a seeming warming when more honest measurements began to be made.
In addition to insufficient or no UHI adjustment, and station dropout, there has been a tenfold increase in missing months of data in places like the Soviet Union.
There has been the use of new instruments with known warm biases that go uncorrected, and of course bad siting of instruments. As of 2008, when nearly half way through the 1200 USHCN stations, Anthony Watts and his team of volunteers found only 4% met the governments own standards and 69% were poor or very poorly sited (with errors of greater than 2C).
NOAA and NASA will tell you their adjustments take care of that. Can you trust that?
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/URBANIZATION_IN_THE_TEMPERATURE_DATA_BASES.pdf
Little Orphan Annie was last seen still defending the totally discredited Swift Boat liars….. LOL!
Hank was in the Navy.
Hank wants all of us to pretend that a large area of much warmer than normal surface sea temperatures in 1998 did NOT affect global temperatures.
Hank also wants us to pretend that a large area of cooler than normal surface sea temperatures in 2007 and 2008 did NOT affect global temperatures.
Sorry Hank, but I’m not going to pretend that is true.
But Hank has to pretend that, to support his AGW denial.
‘Global Temperature from GISS, NCDC, HadCRU‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/giss-ncdc-hadcru/
SolDevVB,
Again. . . thank you very much!
Now, attack the NCDC and HadCRU data sets.
And attack the satellite data, which shows a strong correlation to the surface data.
‘What’s Up With That?‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/whats-up-with-that/
Coutlter’s column, for the benefit of those who elected to throw insults rather than read it, is pretty compelling. You who were insulted by the column should be reminded that Coulter’s column is based on statistics, the law of large numbers, not individual single mothers. There are some great single mom’s out there.
As has been shown time and again, a kid has the best chance to become a happy, productive, well adjusted person growing up in a home with a mother and a father.
What are you DavidB a government lap dog?
“Bachelor Father” – “Courtship of Eddie’s Father” – “Bonanza” – “The Rifleman” – “My Three Sons” – “The Big Valley” – “Dallas” – “Star Trek: Next Generation”
These TV shows all have one thing in common. They all portray families, apparently successful, headed by a… wait for it… single parents…
LOL
Now Cosmos is stuck trying to defend why they are calling it “climate change” instead of “Global Warming.”
How is it that anyone can possibly fall for this garbage?
I tell you why the liberals support this crap. It is because Global Warming is nothing but an excuse for the government to assume more control and regulation over the energy industry and control it.
All you have to do is look at the proposed solutions to the problem to see this.
And if you really start looking at some of those blogging scientists Cosmos always quote you will see they are far left socialists.
The Environment is what they use in order to control and regulate the free market because they can’t stand capitalism.
I still think it would be a good idea to have a one day moratorium on this global warming/cooling stuff… In one sense, what willl be, will be… man-made, or normal stuff… what will be, will be…
And no, GMC, I am not trying to be Blog dictator… just looking for some sanity in an insane world!!
Now, attack the NCDC and HadCRU data sets.
But… but.. but.. they did it tooooooo.
Scientific method indeed.
No peer review. No review at all. Little to no QA. How very scientific!
Chas,
I think it would be nice if you could admit you were wrong one day.
But some things are just wishful thinking.
Hey, I have an idea… How about some of our more highly skilled bloggers look up some information on what would happen if a major solar flare would hit the Earth?? Or how about doing some look-ups on what astronomers are saying about our solar system coming into an alignment with the galactic center?? I bet there is some informative information on those things… And, hey, none of those have anything at all to do with anthropogenic involvement…
However — those events might have something to say about human preparedness for such events…
What am I wrong about today, Nathan??
Nathaniel posted January 16, 2009 at 10:45 am
LOL
Now Cosmos is stuck trying to defend why they are calling it “climate change” instead of “Global Warming.”
How is it that anyone can possibly fall for this garbage?
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Nathaniel,
Thank you for proving that you are NOT intelligent enough to understand this.
AGW causes warming, and that warming causes CLIMATE CHANGES.
‘What’s in a name? Global warming vs. climate change‘
http://globalclimatechange.jpl.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=32
SolDevVB posted January 16, 2009 at 10:52 am
No peer review. No review at all. Little to no QA. How very scientific!
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http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2007/09/deniers-rediscover-hockey-stick.html
“To be honest, this is starting to look like a great validation of GISTEMP.“
Ultra deniers Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre have been hard at work.
But McIntyre’s not giving up yet. He’s standing on his head and looking at the data all squinty eyed, to see if he can’t make the numbers go in another direction.
Yeah…no bias there.
So why has hansen’s number fudging algorithm such a closely held secret? Has his code been peer reviewed? What is his QA SOP? Who reviews his data before and after?
jm, plz follow thru on that, change my mind
cosmos_originally
Posted January 16, 2009 at 10:28 am | Permalink
Hank was in the Navy.
Hank wants all of us to pretend that a large area of much warmer than normal surface sea temperatures in 1998 did NOT affect global temperatures.
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I’m g o i n g t o t y p e r e a l l y s l o w, C o s m o s. M a y b e
y o u’ l l b e a b l e t o u n d e r s t a n d.
You ain’t smart enough to hold a discussion with me, or anyone else, about weather, climate, AGW or climate change without GOOGLE and access to your left wing propaganda websites.
You pontificate about the difference between a GLOBAL average temperature and a REGIONAL average temperature then you try to shove La Nina and El Nino up our collective bu##s to explain variances in regional temperatures.
I worked for a while with the Scripps Institution of Oceanography at Point Loma. I was the laison between thenm and the submarine squadron in San Diego. My job was to explain the limits and capabilities of the submarine force to collect various ocean data. Including temperature.
The oceans are an incredible heat sink. It would take decades to change their combined average temperature a fraction of a degree. El Nino and La Nina are cyclic surface temperatue changes that have absolutely nothing to do with the average temperature of the oceans or the average temperature of the earth.
They effect weather temporarily but have very little long term effect on climate. Eery time you use El Nino or La Nina to explain some embarrasing anomaly in a temporary regional temperature increase or decrease you merely demonstrate your incredible ignorance.
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Posted January 16, 2009 at 10:58 am | Permalink
Hey, I have an idea… How about some of our more highly skilled bloggers look up some information on what would happen if a major solar flare would hit the Earth?? Or how about doing some look-ups on what astronomers are saying about our solar system coming into an alignment with the galactic center?? I bet there is some informative information on those things… And, hey, none of those have anything at all to do with anthropogenic involvement…
However — those events might have something to say about human preparedness for such events…
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I brought that up yesterday but nobody hit on it.
Sol, Does that have anything to do with the Milankovitch cycle?
Sol, I’m referring to the galactic eclipse.
http://www.wwnorton.com/college/geo/egeo/flash/18_2.swf
Don’t know about the eclipse Don.
See Don, there are lots of things that can be discussed besides global warming/cooling…
Chas,
We could discuss what it means to be a Christian for example.
And why you call yourself one?
Sol, I saw a show on the History channel last week that theorized the galactic eclipse could affect the wobble Milankovitch illustrates.
It seems to me both are more factors affecting climate change and shows it to be cyclical and not influenced by man.
Sorry Chas but your suggestion still leads to the subject you wish to avoid.
Cyclical?
Say it ain’t so…
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=41&tstamp=200709
Looks like Nathan wants to be snarky…
Outta here…. back later!!
FilmFan wrote:
he bald chick who banged Dr. Spock in one of the “Star Trek” movies
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I’m afraid I haven’t seen that movie dear. Are you sure the ‘baby doctor’ made an appearance in a Star Trek movie? :D
FilmFan-Who would pork this putrid pipsqueak without being Roofie-ed? I can’t think of anyone…….
Since she looks a lot like my fiance so I sure wood.
Hank posted January 16, 2009 at 11:23 am
The oceans are an incredible heat sink. It would take decades to change their combined average temperature a fraction of a degree.
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Well duuuuhh there, Mr. Navy! Welcome to AGW science!
The thermal inertia of oceans delays AGW. And it’s why AGW is (as climate models predicted) warming the Northern hemisphere faster than the Southern — there is less ocean in the Northern.
The heat content of the oceans ARE rising, and AGW is required to explain that rise.
Hank posted:
El Nino and La Nina are cyclic surface temperatue changes that have absolutely nothing to do with the average temperature of the oceans or the average temperature of the earth.
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Sorry skippy, you sank the sub, big time, on that one.
Do you want to argue that warmer (cooler) ENSO SST’s do not cause air temperature changes?
ENSO causes warmer (or cooler) SST’s over a significant area of ocean, sometimes for many months.
The global average is the sum of regions.
Want to argue that warmer (cooler) SST’s over a significant region, for a long time, does NOT affect the average annual global air temperature?
I suggest that you don’t, unless you want to look very foolish.
Hank posted:
They effect weather temporarily but have very little long term effect on climate. Eery time you use El Nino or La Nina to explain some embarrasing anomaly in a temporary regional temperature increase or decrease you merely demonstrate your incredible ignorance.
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You got the 1st sentence correct. ENSO causes the short-term warming (cooling) that shows on the global annual temperature graphs — like 1998, and 2007/2008.
But the “long term” climate trend is warming, caused mostly by AGW.
cosmos spews: But the “long term” climate trend is warming, caused mostly by AGW.
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Not counting clouds, bodies of water, land masses, location (latitude and longitude), humidity, co2 from plants, soil, methane from soils, plants, animals, wind, altitude, oceans, meteorological patterns, night or day…etc.
Other than those things right cosmos? :D
Hank,
Enjoy. . .
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2008/
Figure 2, at right.
Top: Seasonal-mean global and low latitude temperature anomalies relative to the 1951-1980 base period. …
Bottom: Monthly-mean global-ocean surface temperature anomaly, based on satellite temperature analyses of Reynolds and Smith (ref. 4].
“The heat content of the oceans ARE rising, and AGW is required to explain that rise.”
Translation: We need someone to blame.
It’s REQUIRED because the Socialists need a reason to control man for their financial and political gain.
So what percent of man-made co2 as compared to natural co2 levels are there again cosmos? :)
Friday and no one likes jokes?
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American_Way out!
has posted January 16, 2009 at 11:57 am
Looks like Nathan wants to be snarky…
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Maybe because he cannot understand that AGW causes climate change?
Thank you for your politically corrected data, Cosmos! I notice the Al Gore butt-boy Hansen’s name dominates the list of references!
Biased much?
‘Here’s my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose.’- Ronald Reagan
‘The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’ – Ronald Reagan
‘The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.’ – Ronald Reagan
‘Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.’
- Ronald Reagan
‘I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress.’ – Ronald Reagan
‘The taxpayer: That’s someone who works for the federal government but doesn’t have to take the civil service examination.’
- Ronald Reagan
‘Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.’
- Ronald Reagan
‘The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.’ – Ronald Reagan
‘It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first.’ – Ronald Reagan
‘Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.’ – Ronald Reagan
‘Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed, there are many rewards; if you disgrace yourself, you can always write a book.’ – Ronald Reagan
‘No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.’- Ronald Reagan
‘If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.’ – Ronald Reagan
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I have read these many times but they just crossed my desk again and I thought I would share them with those who are missing the good ole days right now.
“Maybe because he cannot understand that AGW causes climate change?”
Broken record.
Praise be.
Just for you AMway.
Did you hear about the two men who were on a ski trip and half way up the mountain they had to stop because of a blizzard. It was in the middle of nowhere and there was only one house close so they knocked on the door and a beautiful lady opened it. They asked if they could spend the night there until the blizzard was over. She said I am newly widowed and live here alone so it wouldn’t be appropriate for you to stay in the house but you can sleep in the barn.
Next morning they moved on and had a good day skiing. Nine months later one of them was visited by a lawyer. He asked if he had spent the night on the mountain while waiting out a blizzard. He said yes he did.
When the lawyer left he called his traveling companion and asked him if he had went into the ladies house the night they were supposed to be sleeping in the barn. He admitted that yes he had. He then said ‘and did you give her my name and not yours’. I have to admit that yes I did. Well her lawyer was just here and she died and left me her entire fortune.
Cosmos,
It is not that I can’t understand that your completely inaccurate idea of what AGW is and how we are causing it couldn’t cause climate change, it is that you don’t seem to understand that we are not causing any Global Warming, nor how any warming is bad let alone catastophic, nor how any of the proposed solutions for this so called problem will do nothing to fix it.
“okobserver” –
You left out
“I did not trade arms for hostages.”
Nathan, which is it? There is no warming, or there is warming but we didn’t cause it, or there is warming but we didn’t cause it and we can’t fix it?
Frankly, I can’t understand how you and your dad can cite “cyclical changes” when such data necessarily involves an earth much, much older than 6,000 years.
Wahine_T,
I believe in an ancient earth.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=41&tstamp=200709
Sol,
Most Christians do, myself included.
ank posted January 16, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Thank you for your politically corrected data, Cosmos! I notice the Al Gore butt-boy Hansen’s name dominates the list of references!
Biased much?
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No, thank you Hank, for again claiming that your big, bad Mr. Navy submarine “laison” work proves that the worlds top climate scientists are wrong, and the temperature data is wrong.
And thank you for (again) attacking Al Gore and Dr. Hansen, instead of being a mature adult, and admitting that you were wrong about ENSO affecting global temperatures.
The ENSO – global temperature correlation is commonly accepted by all climate scientists in those fields.
Hank, go use your big Navy liaison “authority”, and your “butt-boy” label, on all of those scientists.
Tell them they’re wrong, and change their minds (and data). Good luck! LOL!
Non-cyclical.
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/historical03.jsp
“Most” Christians huh?
Drawing from any particular source or just your opinion?
Tara,
I believe that the Earth warms and cools. There is no “perfect” temperature which stays set.
I don’t believe we have any significant impact on the climate. Whatever warming is taking place is not a problem and even so, the proposed solutions by those advocating it being fixed wouldn’t work anyhow.
They are nothing more than a attempt to control and regulate the world energy market.
“Most” Christians huh?
Drawing from any particular source or just your opinion?
Nathan,
Most Christians don’t have a problem reconciling common sense/reason with faith.
Drawing upon my personal belief from every single Christian I’ve met, plus all of the Orthodox and the Catholic. But I could try and find a source if you really want me to waste my time.
You are a rare “kind”
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outlander
Posted January 16, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink
Coutlter’s column, for the benefit of those who elected to throw insults rather than read it, is pretty compelling. You who were insulted by the column should be reminded that Coulter’s column is based on statistics, the law of large numbers, not individual single mothers. There are some great single mom’s out there.
As has been shown time and again, a kid has the best chance to become a happy, productive, well adjusted person growing up in a home with a mother and a father.
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Right in one small regard: the numbers. But by applying her political drift to single mothers, all should be put in the same basket. As I said, always negative attacks, never positive suggestions. Why do you think people buy rags like the national enquirer? I put her on the same rack. But then, I put people like Keith Olbermann in the same group.
And yes, it would be awesome if all children had both loving mothers and fathers. Unfortunately, this isn’t a perfect world, which means twits like Coulter still have an audience, and children are still raised by single parents.
cosmos_originally
Posted January 16, 2009 at 2:02 pm | Permalink
Non-cyclical.
Awwww cosmos is out of feces to throw again. Why only go back 1,000 years cosmos? Cherry picking again!!!
From your own link …
koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/historical02.jsp
But lets do cherry pick and see that we are right around where we were in the early 80’s
wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/uah_msu_sept2008.png
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Nathaniel
Posted January 16, 2009 at 2:06 pm | Permalink
I don’t believe we have any significant impact on the climate. Whatever warming is taking place is not a problem and even so, the proposed solutions by those advocating it being fixed wouldn’t work anyhow.
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Nathan, if the is global warming going on, with man’s influence or not, the impact could have disastrous effects: Raising sea levels due to glacial melt; the movement of seasons to different parts of the world, i.e., Kansas becoming a dust bowl again due to drought; Canada becoming the bread basket of the world. And if an ice age is dawning, the same could happen, with places like Kansas being under a half mile of ice.
As for man influencing climate AND environment: ask the residents of Los Angeles about smog; ask the residents of Detroit about rivers on fire.
“Wahine_Tara” notes the CONs’ favorite circle jerk –
“Nathan, which is it? There is no warming, or there is warming but we didn’t cause it, or there is warming but we didn’t cause it and we can’t fix it?”
The CONs deny global warming for only one reason: they don’t like Al Gore.
I suspect they could pay, say, Dan Quayle, a half a million or so to recite Gore’s narration in “An Inconvenient Truth” and the Coulter-geists would crawl out of the woodwork to demand fleets of electric pick-up trucks.
“There’s no such thing as global warming.”
“There’s global warming but it also results in weather extremes that seem to indicate local cooling.”
“Climate change is natural.”
“Okay, it’s not all natural but burning fossil fuels can’t make that big a difference.”
“Okay, a couple hundred years of industrial burning of fossil fuels might make a big difference but it’s too late to change it now.”
“If there’s a problem the future can deal with it.”
“Since I can’t get a female to give me the time of day, I don’t worry about future generations.” (Or is that only “Nataniel” saying that?)
“There is no such thing as global warming.”
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
And yes, it would be awesome if all children had both loving mothers and fathers. Unfortunately, this isn’t a perfect world, which means twits like Coulter still have an audience, and children are still raised by single parents.
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As I have said before Walker, Coulter sometimes makes me cringe, but that doesn’t automatically invalidate what she has uncovered in the stats. My take, to sort of repeat myself on the subject, is that living in a home with a mother and a father is best for kids and should be encouraged, even incentivized.
The CONs deny global warming for only one reason: they don’t like Al Gore.
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Monkey sure is a simple guy isn’t he?
St. Ronald of Reagan once said that all of the nuclear waste produced would fit under your dining room table….(From Ronald Reagan’s Reign of Error)
Just because he said it, doesnt make it true…
But, if Reagan had said we should prepare for Global Warming, because the Soviets planned it, I would wager the Reich Wing would be all for it…
So, I agree with you Monkey….
‘outlander” offers rainbows and fluffy kitten/unicorns –
“…living in a home with a mother and a father is best for kids and should be encouraged, even incentivized.”
…and it still can result in a Dennis Rader, a Richard Eugene Hickock, or a Charlie Starkweather.
“…and it still can result in a Dennis Rader, a Richard Eugene Hickock, or a Charlie Starkweather.”
From the N.S. Sherlock Institute.
(Monkey will get the joke).
“Bachelor Father” – “Courtship of Eddie’s Father” -“Bonanza” – “The Rifleman” – “My Three Sons” –
“The Big Valley” – “Dallas” – “Star Trek: Next Generation”
These TV shows all have one thing in common. They all portray families, apparently successful, headed by a… wait for it… single parents…
outlander posted January 16, 2009 at 2:33 pm
The CONs deny global warming for only one reason: they don’t like Al Gore.
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Monkey sure is a simple guy isn’t he?
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outlander, let’s do a quick check upthread. . .
Hank posted January 16, 2009 at 6:35 am
and former Vice President Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection. Her name has been removed from the Gore organization’s Web site list of directors,
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outlander himself posted January 16, 2009 at 7:13 am
The 2001 forecasts by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (cited by Al Gore)
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SolDevVB posted January 16, 2009 at 7:40 am
What has algore done …
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SolDevVB posted January 16, 2009 at 9:05 am
Screw what you want to call it and algore’s …
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Hank posted January 16, 2009 at 1:04 pm | Permalink
Thank you for your politically corrected data, Cosmos! I notice the Al Gore butt-boy Hansen’s name dominates the list of references!
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Hmmmmm. . . . . .
“These TV shows all have one thing in common…”
Brilliant, chas, brilliant.
Chas my new years resolution is to be nicer to you. Please don’t relate real life to a tv show. If you want to see disfunction look at the ‘real’ lifes of the characters on these shows.
It isn’t pretty or relevant. Just a note for your consideration.
Ah, the good reverend Chas.
I’m sure one could get all the spirtual guidance he could provide from the ‘church-of-what-feels-good-now’ during a brief stop at their drive through window.
Chas
Posted January 16, 2009 at 2:50 pm | Permalink
“Bachelor Father” – “Courtship of Eddie’s Father” -“Bonanza” – “The Rifleman” – “My Three Sons” -
“The Big Valley” – “Dallas” – “Star Trek: Next Generation”
These TV shows all have one thing in common. They all portray families, apparently successful, headed by a… wait for it… single parents
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Quite true Chas.
But, they were all gainfully employed or in the case of Dallas, obscenely rich.
Chas posted January 16, 2009 at 11:57 am
Looks like Nathan wants to be snarky…
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His father Hank also. Maybe it’s genetic?
‘outlander” offers rainbows and fluffy kitten/unicorns – Monkeyhawk
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Well, yeah. But the unicorns were all Chas’ Standard Tall Fat Unicorns.
I think it must be a sick sort of inescapable trap cons set for anyone who isn’t intent on being their gender assigned version of Ward or June Cleaver.
They’ll point and tsk a pregnant woman without a ring. But they’ll beg her to keep her baby! SO right after the birth, they can go right back to dirty looks and cruel words and certainly no help. Without a steady supply of people to be better than, cons might have to see the smallness in themselves.
Oh Bj, there you go again. Making it up as you go along. Do you think that single mothers only come from liberal families? I can guarantee you that our congregation provides more compassion and more materially to single mothers than you have ever thought of doing.
See if you can be less of a divisive moron.
Ah Yes the good life in CA tax refunds delayed for 30 days. The libs in Cally have over reached them selves and are fast running out of bucks.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090116/D95OF36O0.html
I didn’t start it outlander. I don’t judge on single parents. Since you know, I happen to be one?
President Bush declared this Sunday a “National Sanctity of Human Life Day” to foster respect for human life. This will likely be the last pro-life day declared for years to come, since Obamanation has repeatedly declared his blatant lack of respect for the value and dignity of human life. President Bush declared an annual pro-life day every year during his tenure, and his pro-life legacy also includes renewing the Mexico City policy, and signing into law the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, the partial-birth abortion ban, and the Unborn Victims of Violence Act.
You know what is a real mystery?
Why a talented best-selling author and (need I say) HOT! babe like Ann Coulter is still single.
Answer:
all guys, lib or CON, value keeping their balls.
Would that be the Californa run by Arnie the Repub.
Hank chastises Chas for preaching a “feel good” theology?
What theology did you practice, Hank, when you abandoned the bride of your youth and engaged in non-stop adultery with your current wife.
“But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/16/AR2009011602602.html?wprss=rss_nation
The time is now for everyone to cease and desist any payments made to all mortgage holders. This “bail out” (more aptly put, “bank heist, nation rape”) has caused us to pay for our mortgages three and four times (interest not included).
And let me reiterate from a previous post of mine, if you’re losing your home to foreclosure and expect a sheriff to show up with an eviction notice, disassemble that place. Any investments that you put into are yours, not the criminals’.
This could be peaceful if American’s would, collectively, stop paying those mortgages. Otherwise…this scam they’ve almost pulled off, owns you and me. And then things’ll get ugly. They’re already itching for craziness and chaos in Oakland, imagine that happening everywhere.
Think that’s why we have troops deployed here now?
Naaaaahhhh, best to go back to sleep. Maybe you’ll get to keep yours.
The appalling arrogance of USD 259 is beyond comprehension. There is a bill pending in Topeka that will remove the famous 25% from the state. Lynn Rogers of the school board was just on KSN, and she said if that happens, then they (USD 259) will just raise property taxes to make up the difference.
We were sold a bill of goods, and it is only going to get worse. Highest per capita spending in the nation, and now our taxes will go up even more.
Disgusting.
Hank posted January 16, 2009 at 11:23 am
cosmos_originally
Posted January 16, 2009 at 10:28 am | Permalink
Hank was in the Navy.
Hank wants all of us to pretend that a large area of much warmer than normal surface sea temperatures in 1998 did NOT affect global temperatures.
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I’m g o i n g t o t y p e r e a l l y s l o w, C o s m o s. M a y b e
y o u’ l l b e a b l e t o u n d e r s t a n d.
You ain’t smart enough to hold a discussion with me, or anyone else, about weather, climate, AGW or climate change without GOOGLE and access to your left wing propaganda websites.
You pontificate about the difference between a GLOBAL average temperature and a REGIONAL average temperature then you try to shove La Nina and El Nino up our collective bu##s to explain variances in regional temperatures.
I worked for a while with the Scripps Institution of Oceanography at Point Loma. I was the laison between thenm and the submarine squadron in San Diego. My job was to explain the limits and capabilities of the submarine force to collect various ocean data. Including temperature.
The oceans are an incredible heat sink. It would take decades to change their combined average temperature a fraction of a degree. El Nino and La Nina are cyclic surface temperatue changes that have absolutely nothing to do with the average temperature of the oceans or the average temperature of the earth.
They effect weather temporarily but have very little long term effect on climate. Eery time you use El Nino or La Nina to explain some embarrasing anomaly in a temporary regional temperature increase or decrease you merely demonstrate your incredible ignorance.
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Dear Hank,
To summarize why you believe that climate scientists worldwide are wrong about ENSO affecting global temperatures:
* You think that I “ain’t smart enough. . .”
* You lie about what I’ve posted.
* You try to use an irrelevant, bogus “authority” line — your Navy “liason” duty.
* Just because you say so. (uh-huh)
* You think that I’ve demonstrated my “incredible ignorance”.
* You think that the climate science and data is done by Al Gore’s “butt-boy”.
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Anything else, Hank?
Or are those all of your arguments against the commonly accepted ENSO – average global temperature correlations?
THE UNIVERSE IS A GIANT HOLOGRAM!!!!!!!
For many months, the GEO600 team-members had been scratching their heads over inexplicable noise that is plaguing their giant detector. Then, out of the blue, a researcher approached them with an explanation. In fact, he had even predicted the noise before he knew they were detecting it. According to Craig Hogan, a physicist at the Fermilab particle physics lab in Batavia, Illinois, GEO600 has stumbled upon the fundamental limit of space-time – the point where space-time stops behaving like the smooth continuum Einstein described and instead dissolves into “grains”, just as a newspaper photograph dissolves into dots as you zoom in. “It looks like GEO600 is being buffeted by the microscopic quantum convulsions of space-time,” says Hogan.
If this doesn’t blow your socks off, then Hogan, who has just been appointed director of Fermilab’s Center for Particle Astrophysics, has an even bigger shock in store: “If the GEO600 result is what I suspect it is, then we are all living in a giant cosmic hologram.”
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126911.300-our-world-may-be-a-giant-hologram.html
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Dang . . . there goes the whole cooling/warming thingy right out universe. Pardon me while I holograph outta here! Beam me up, Scotty.
Oooo, The Matrix is real.
Good evening, Capn.!
“What theology did you practice, Hank, when you abandoned the bride of your youth and engaged in non-stop adultery with your current wife.”
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hehehe
If you are going to comment on my past marital circumstances and my present marital bliss you really need to find a source other than the ramblings of a demented BlueJay mind.
The boy’s birth mother is dead. My current wife took him in, raised and loved him like he was her own.
When I stand in judgment it won’t be anything out BlueJay’s or your twisted mind I have to worry about!
I’d say there’s probably more to that story.
But then I’m not the one who makes you or your family an every day talking point. Like you and your son do with me and mine? Don’t dish it if you can’t eat it.
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BlueJay
Posted January 16, 2009 at 5:53 pm | Permalink
I’d say there’s probably more to that story.
But then I’m not the one who makes you or your family an every day talking point. Like you and your son do with me and mine? Don’t dish it if you can’t eat it.
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I’d say it’s none of your damn business Junior.
BlueJay
Posted January 16, 2009 at 5:53 pm | Permalink
I’d say there’s probably more to that story.
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Of course there is! But it’s not nearly as interesting and sick as the one you bring here out of your deparaved little mind.
But keep posting junior, it’s intertaining and tells us a lot more about you than it does me.
If you haven’t noticed Hank, I don’t much trade posts with either you or your son recently. You’ve sufficiently defined yourselves to me and most people that I know that I feel I no longer need to bother. Too, I don’t think we have anything in the way of common ground to search for. This has not seemed to stop either you or your son from the occasional jab at me. Why you feel the need to seek the attention is your problem. I sure as hell don’t seek reflection in your eyes.
Did she die after you divorced her, Hank?
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CapnAmerica
Posted January 16, 2009 at 6:46 pm | Permalink
Did she die after you divorced her, Hank?
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Ask BlueJay. That’s where you’ve got all your info so far.
Yet another example how Libs try to use personal data on people to do their evil.
You have ownership of this type of behavior Libs, they are all yours.
Scourge of the earth – scum.
You have ownership of this type of behavior Libs, they are all yours.
Scourge of the earth – scum.
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Yes, they do…and are.
Uh huh that’s how much you know “Regular”.
You missed it didn’t you? Oh it was mild compared to what gets tossed around now.
The very first truly nasty assault on this forum came from your buddy Hank and was directed at me. It was three years ago and I’m not going back there. But from then forward, it has been you cons who lowered the bar on discourse here. You’ve played one of the biggest parts in that your own self. So spare the sanctimony.
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BlueJay
Posted January 16, 2009 at 7:17 pm | Permalink
Uh huh that’s how much you know “Regular”.
You missed it didn’t you? Oh it was mild compared to what gets tossed around now.
The very first truly nasty assault on this forum came from your buddy Hank and was directed at me. It was three years ago and I’m not going back there. But from then forward, it has been you cons who lowered the bar on discourse here. You’ve played one of the biggest parts in that your own self. So spare the sanctimony.
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So?
Grow up Junior?
Holding grudges isn’t becoming and you’re likely to get your ass severely beaten if you do it to wrong person.
Three years ago? What a child you are.
Grow up.
Being junior to you only means you’ll shamble off this mortal coil long before I will. The fun part is I think you’ll get to see most of what you care about go first. Enjoy!
You might be surprised Junior. People go before they think it’s their time.
If you would stop being so bitter you might actually do something productive in your life.
For those who dont want to watch the Inaugural Events on Tuesday —
A HOUSE MARATHON on the USA Network, Ch. 28 on Cox Cable…. 17 hours of House episodes…
Before too many folks gripe about Obama’s choice for Treasury Secretary, it might be wise to remember that Bush’s first Treasury Sec. also had an IRS problem with his housekeeper, and was also behind in Income Tax payments…
That should even things out a little… Anybody can make mistakes on Tax Forms… even the professionals…
Chas he had the same problem every year since 2001. He received a letter from the IRS and still did not pay up until he was nominated. Must be a show learner.
I think the prez should be able to pick his own cabinet but am not sure someone should be over the IRS when he doesn’t pay his own taxes. What kind of message will this send. Overall I agree with Obama’s picks but can’t back him on this one or Eric Holder.
Regular posted January 16, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Grow up.
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Like Regular, who added a false fictional paragraph to his copy/paste, to support(sic) his lie?
Like Hank, who cannot support his invalid claim that ENSO does not affect average global temperatures, so he calls a top scientist Al Gore’s “butt-boy”?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-116-3/#comment-504658
Regular and Hank should “grow up”.
Cosmos, what the hell? Are you really a female, cause you sure as hell act like one.
I meant that in a positive way. (wicked memory)
Hank’s non answer = yes, they were divorced.
The tip off was when he threw in all that unnecessary information about how his replacement wife loved his son like her own son.
Not asked, not interested, not important.
Don’t question Chas’s faith, and we won’t question yours . . . funny how that works.
Capn’A,
What does it matter?
I mean, you admitted to marring for money, Capn’A.
Capn’A, Mr. 6 figures.
It matters because people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Hank judges people on the basis of his narrow faith (in direct violation of “judge not, lest ye be judged” btw), and then is outraged when someone else holds him to the same standard.
Divorce is essentially forbidden in the New Testament, but that doesn’t stop the religious fundies–who take every word as the literal truth, don’t you know–from finessing it so they can do what they want.
Hehehe . . . Anti, I like to keep you confused.
And it looks like I succeeded beyond my wildest dreams.
6 figures?
Aw, hell . . . let’s make it 8.
Capn’A,
Why do you think I am concerned with your Bible lessons?
Heh heh, Capn’A…if you only knew…
Here’s the scoop….the party to celebrate Obama’s historic election to the presidency will be held next Friday at The Anchor in downtown Wichita (just East of Washington on Douglas). The party should start around 6:30 in the back room
To celebrate Obama’s agenda of inclusiveness and reaching across the aisle, ALL are welcome :)
Knew what?
elections happen every 4 years…not all that historic.
Mary–
Friday? The inauguration is Tuesday.
I know…but more will show up if we can all sleep in the next morning!
OH HE’S half BLACK!!!! That is what you all are celebrating…It’s race thing. I forgot how much you all cherish a persons slot in a group!
“elections happen every 4 years…not all that historic.”
But THIS one is historic!!!!
For a black man to be elected, it represents much progress we’ve made and how far we’ve evolved as a country.
For a black man to be elected,
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You do know he is equally white.
Mary, why is race so important to you?
“You do know he is equally white.”
So? We’re still celebrating on Friday!!!
“Mary, why is race so important to you?”
Read my lips…”For a black man to be elected, it represents much progress we’ve made and how far we’ve evolved as a country.”
So? We’re still celebrating on Friday!!!
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Based on race, illustrated from your previous post.
Nice.
YYYYYEEEEESSS!!!!!! And the best man won!!!!!!!
Read my lips…”For a black man to be elected, it represents much progress we’ve made and how far we’ve evolved as a country.”
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Mary, I am a young man. I do not look at race as ANY FACTOR. It disgust me that the older folks still view things in a race principle manner.
Why don’t you come, Anti?
You might find you can actually have an intelligent conversation for a change.
If you were born in the 50s like I was..you’d realize what a big deal this is.
Just because you have no experience with segregation doesn’t invalidate the happiness some of us feel to see this day come!
Why don’t you come, Anti?
You might find you can actually have an intelligent conversation for a change.
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Actually I may do that….I have found this blog pollutes the soul (why I haven’t been around much). The Anchor, you say?
We’ll be in the back room!
Mary_Caruso
Posted January 16, 2009 at 8:43 pm | Permalink
If you were born in the 50s like I was..you’d realize what a big deal this is.
Just because you have no experience with segregation
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That is why us, 30 something and under have a hard time dealing with the ‘race card’ being chucked out as an excuse for things. We(most of us) do not look at race as a factor.
Hope you all can make it!!
‘nite all.
Mary you old sl*t.
So go to your backroom party. But don’t waste space assuming the world cares. It does not.
Particularly a backroom party.
Inclusiveness my butt: You all already stated Obama cannot have the priest he wants do the invocation.
Further, the controlling party in congress has already passed new regulations EXCLUDING republicans from law formulation/writing meetings.
You are fool if you believe your party is one of inclusiveness. It is not. Say hi to your Christian anti-abortion inclusive members.
Mary,
It is on Douglas, East of Wash.?
Yes…right next to the tatoo parlor. The Anchor serves really good food and it has ample room for a get together.
Tell your friends!
Nite!
“Yes…right next to the tatoo parlor.”—Mary
And she finishes. ‘And after we are totally mindlessly drunk with our own self-satisfaction, which we are anyway, we can go next door and get a big ugly Dimocrat tatoo.’
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) – California’s controller says he will begin a 30-day delay on tax refunds and other payments starting Feb. 1 because the state is running out of money.
Typical Dimocrat run situation. What a Confederacy of Dunces!
Same for New York.
It’s sounding like no cons plan to attend which is always a plus for me. I’ll have to see.
If Obama’s so popular, and inclusive of all, why does he need an ARMY to protect him in Washington DC? Isn’t the gun-ban capital of the US a safe place?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/16/washington-assembles-largest-inauguration-security-force/
Washington Assembles Largest Inauguration Security Force Ever
The U.S. Secret Service is overseeing a security force of more than 40,000 people, including 7,500 active duty soldiers, 10,000 National Guard troops and 25,000 law-enforcement officers.
Dang Global Warming caused the Geese to fly into that jet, causing it to crash in NYC.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-116-3/#comment-504965
While officials use radar and radio collars to track bird populations, habitat destruction and climate change have disrupted migratory patterns. Moreover, the populations of certain species of birds are increasing at rapid rates, thanks to changes in food supply.
Mary_Caruso
Posted January 16, 2009 at 8:23 pm | Permalink
Here’s the scoop….the party to celebrate Obama’s historic election to the presidency will be held next Friday at The Anchor in downtown Wichita (just East of Washington on Douglas). The party should start around 6:30 in the back room
To celebrate Obama’s agenda of inclusiveness and reaching across the aisle, ALL are welcome :)
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You know it’s going to spill out of the back and into the front of the Anchor, right? :D
Great bar. I love the woman who owns it, what a sweetheart.
Crap, I wish I were still in Wichita. I’d definitely be there.
Yall have fun now, and drink one for me!
Global Warming also causes repetitive posts about Global Warming.
I wonder if the Army will have to wear those “O” symbols as patches on their arms. :)
Global Warming also causes repetitive posts about Global Warming.
Global Warming also causes repetitive posts about Global Warming.
Global Warming also causes repetitive posts about Global Warming.
Global Warming also causes repetitive posts about Global Warming.
Global Warming also causes repetitive posts about Global Warming.
Global Warming also causes repetitive posts about Global Warming.
Thank you Mary.
Slaves actually built the White House. An African American, and his family, are moving into that residence. This must mean something to even dumb-asses on this blog.
People how do not (cannot?) understand the science of anthropogenic global warming cause the need for repetitive posts about AGW.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-116-3/#comment-504835
SB
People WHO do not. . .
anti makes a sexist statement then beaches when we want to celebrate diversity coming to fruition in america.
I don’t think he doesn’t get it, I think he knows full well why this is such a big deal. Racism and sexism both are alive and well in america.
Looks like everyone’s crashed for the night.
If you need a chuckle, check this out –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3ecDYxOkg
JimJohnson
Posted January 16, 2009 at 9:56 pm | Permalink
If Obama’s so popular, and inclusive of all, why does he need an ARMY to protect him in Washington DC? Isn’t the gun-ban capital of the US a safe place?
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Maybe if it wasnt for Racist Pigs like JomJohnson and his blog buddies, there would not be a need for all of those good folks to protect our next President…
Got your new lipstick all ready Johnson?? LOL