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Obama to End Military’s ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Policy
Obama will allow gays to serve openly in the military by overturning the controversial “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/01/15/obama-end-militarys-dont-ask-dont-tell-policy/
Thursday, January 15, 2009
Cheating in NASA climate data probable
Hansen admits to many “adjustments” to his temperature data but claims that they are statistically based. His final “data” certainly diverges strongly from the raw data. Lubos Motl below thinks he has found “made up” data rather than statistically adjusted data. Hansen will not reveal the details of his adjustment procedures so that does feed suspicions. Motl did not find similar divergences from randomness in climate datasets from other sources
David Stockwell has analyzed the frequency of the final digits in the temperature data by NASA’s GISS led by James Hansen, and he claims that the unequal distribution of the individual digits strongly suggests that the data have been modified by a human hand.
With Mathematica 7, such hypotheses take a few minutes to be tested. And remarkably enough, I must confirm Stockwell’s bold assertion although – obviously – this kind of statistical evidence is never quite perfect and the surprising results may always be due to “bad luck” or other explanations mentioned at the end of this article.
Update: Steve McIntyre disagrees with David and myself and thinks that there’s nothing remarkable in the statistics. I confirm that if the absolute values are included, if their central value is carefully normalized, and the anomalies are distributed over just a couple of multiples of 0.1 øC, there’s roughly a 3% variation in the frequency of different digits which is enough to explain the non-uniformities below. However, one simply obtains a monotonically decreasing concentration of different digits and I feel that they have a different fingerprint than the NASA data below. But this might be too fine an analysis for such a relatively small statistical ensemble.
This page shows the global temperature anomalies as collected by GISS. It indicates that the year 2008 (J-D) was the coldest year in the 21st century so far, even according to James Hansen et al., a fact you won’t hear from them. But we will look at some numerology instead.
Looking at those 1,548 figures
Among the 129*12 = 1,548 monthly readings, you would expect each final digit (0..9) to appear 154.8 times or so. That’s the average statistics and you don’t expect that each digit will appear exactly 154.8 times. Instead, the actual frequencies will be slightly different than 154.8. How big is the usual fluctuation from the central value?
Well, the rule is that the abundance of each digit, centered at N=154.8, obeys the normal distribution whose standard deviation is roughly sqrt(154.8). Well, it’s actually sqrt(139.32), as argued below, but let’s avoid unimportant complications here. It means that if you compute the average value of e.g. “(N_i-154.8)^2″ over “i” going between 0 and 9, you should again obtain 154.8.
It’s not zero, proving that some deviations from the “quotas” are inevitable. On the other hand, it is pretty small for a square of the difference of rather large numbers. And the value seems to be precisely determined. If you generate a random list of 1548 digits between 0 and 9, the average value of “(N_i-154.8)^2″ over 10 digits will be remarkably close to 150 or so.
I’ve played this random game many times, to be sure that I use the correct statistical formulae.
SOURCE
http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/01/final-digit-and-cheating-giss.html
Okay, this is cheesing me off. I just tried to post a comment about a new TV program. I didn’t swear. I wasn’t vulgar. And that crapola about “awaiting moderation” appeared.
And I’m gettin’ p–sed off.
“Men, men, men, men….manly men…men…men…
Men…men…men…men…manly men….
Ooh-hoo-hoo….hoo…hoo….”
Oh…..is there anything more shimmering and thrilling than falling in love?
And no, I don’t always mean falling for a person. The above ditty is derived from the theme song for the CBS show “Two and a Half Men.” I hadn’t seen this testosterone-laden offering until recently.
And I’m falling in love with it.
For one thing, the program showcases the talents of Charlie Sheen and Jon Cryer (so memorable in 1986’s “Pretty in Pink”). Portraying two brothers (and one brother’s smart-alecky son) who reside together after one brother’s divorce, the two thespians are hilarious.
And there’s a feast of very funny supporting characters, too. There’s a psycho-broad who lives next door. Crazy Cathie keeps jumping over the fence (literally and psychically) to spew her nuggets all over Sheen – to whom she’s evidently attracted. Psychochick is also a narcissist, which makes for even more merriment.
Cryer plays the brother with the imp of a son, and he (Cryer) was evidently so desperate for companionship – and living out the worst of “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” – that a recent episode had him dating the dithery demidiva.
He lasted about two dates before scraping his sac off his cranium……
Then there’s a battle-ax of a housekeeper whose crusty comments and sardonic humor send me reeling.
But this week’s prime-time episode was really, really utopic. Cryer and his receptionist struggled with a mutual attraction, and the first thing to exude from Cryer’s larynx upon his return home was…..
“It’s rough. My —-s look like two-thirds of the Blue Man Group right about now.”
Oh my lawdie Miss Clawdie. I laughed so hard I topped over myself, disengaging my noggin from my loins with great travail. (It’s difficult to dis-contort when you’re laughing so hard….) In fact, it took me about ten seconds to extricate myself.
And the last thing I need is 70 years of bad luck right about now.
But I wasn’t annoyed. That tells you how much I love this show. Evidently it’s been televised for several years now, but I wasn’t aware of it. (Re-runs are seen at 6:00 and 6:30 p.m. on Channel 24 – Fox’s channel.)
I can’t say I’ve been a fan of good-time Charlie. He’s sort of like the boy next door – if you live adjacent to a Trojan factory. But I’ve always loved Cryer. He touched my heart with his portrayal of Duckie in “Pretty in Pink” nearly 23 years ago. And he’s wonderful in this current role.
Time may be marchin’ on – but this chick still loves to laugh. Lots of other crap may be calcifyin’ and putrefyin’ – but I can still laugh. And I can sing that lovely theme song with panache, too.
Yes, yes – falling in love is transcendent. It doesn’t happen often. I’m sort of like a Vulcan – it sort of happens every 7 years.
But by golly – when it does happen, the amazon is flyin’ high (without actually being high)……
Isn’t awaiting moderation fun FilmFan?
Here, have a Cinnamon roll and some hot coffee. :)
Thanks, Regular! I love cinnamon rolls – and it’s so cold in my office right now that I could use the hot coffee!
Of course, when the FilmFan imbibes too much caffeine, she starts seeing strange things.
I once pulled an all-nighter in college while tring to finish a term paper – and I started seeing little green men exuding from my closet……..
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donndublin
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:03 am | Permalink
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SolDevVB
Posted January 15, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink
Where are we, exactly, in the Milankovitch cycle?
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I don’t know but it’s man’s fault. Just kidding.
Interesting, but does it have anything to do with the galactic eclipse that’s expected in 2012?
UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE
ART. 125. SODOMY
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.
(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
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When Clinton inacted his incredibly stupid ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy it was merely a way around the UCMJ. It has always been against regulations to participate in a homosexual act in the military. If the obamamaster repeals the ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy it will be a step bacwards for the gays in the military.
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donndublin
Posted January 15, 2009 at 9:37 am | Permalink
Let’s pray the weather is single digit or cooler with a sub-zero wind index next week during the inauguration so that Obama, Browner and the other AGW fanatic frauds freeze their a$$es off. They need to know that man dose not control the climate.
Praise be to the One who does.
I started seeing little green men exuding from my closet..
You’re safe for now, they have moved in with me FilmFan. :)
How is allowing gays to openly serve in the military a step backwards?
Israel admits it broke the cease fire and the rockets fired during the cease fire weren’t done by Hamas, nor were there any casualties.
http://www.thedailybanter.com/tdb/2009/01/israel-admits-hamas-did-not-break-cease-fire.html
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TomPaine
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:22 am | Permalink
How is allowing gays to openly serve in the military a step backwards?
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You obviously never lived in 40 man bay dormitories or showered in a common ‘group’ showers.
“You obviously never lived in 40 man bay dormitories or showered in a common ‘group’ showers.”
So gays can’t be in the military because you get erections showering near other men?
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink
“You obviously never lived in 40 man bay dormitories or showered in a common ‘group’ showers.”
So gays can’t be in the military because you get erections showering near other men?
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Obviously, you haven’t studied the interaction of close quartered living.
It will become a problem, I assure you.
Time will tell.
“Obviously, you haven’t studied the interaction of close quartered living.”
I have lived in communal setting, and I didn’t suffer the homoerotic desires that you do.
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donndublin
Posted January 15, 2009 at 9:47 am | Permalink
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 15, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink
Monkeyhawk,
Thanks for the Gail Collins’ link, it’s funny.
Have you seen this?
‘White House interns forced to fill seats at Bush’s last press conference to make the room seem less empty.‘
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/milbank-bush-press/
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“The Center for American Progress is a liberal political policy research and advocacy organization.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress
It is funded by George Soros and other Socialists who also promote the “Fairness Doctrine”.
donndublin, who exactly is proposing the re-establish the fairness doctrine?
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink
“Obviously, you haven’t studied the interaction of close quartered living.”
I have lived in communal setting, and I didn’t suffer the homoerotic desires that you do.
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Communal setting is not the same as a military male dormitory.
I can see it developing into a problem when superior officers bully subordinates into same sex relationships. It will happen.
College dorms are the same as military dorms. What sort of men did you find yourself getting hard for?
As usual, Maggotpunk, is incapable of discussing any subject in a mature manner.
Regular
I can see it developing into a problem when superior officers
The UCMJ will have to be re-worded.
Maggot
I didn’t suffer the homoerotic desires that you do.
Project much?
Regular, you’re the one talking about your homosexual fantasies. Did you ever think that people in the military are more mature than you and don’t desire to have sex with every man that’s around them?
Perhaps this song would be appropriate for you as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink
“Obviously, you haven’t studied the interaction of close quartered living.”
I have lived in communal setting, and I didn’t suffer the homoerotic desires that you do.
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I would say you’re the one with “homoerotic desires” since you’re in favor of the new policy Being a maggot, I doubt you were hit on.
Do you also favor coed showers too in the military?
What’s the difference?
I don’t desire to have sex with every woman that is around me, but I would not be authorized to bunk nor bathe with them.
What is your point?
“I would say you’re the one with “homoerotic desires” since you’re in favor of the new policy Being a maggot, I doubt you were hit on.”
If I choose to make the stupid decision to serve in the military I wouldn’t have a problem serving with other men. You know, like the way it is now.
I know you are ignorant so you probably aren’t aware that there are group showers in places like schools, dorms, gyms, etc. For some reason repressed homosexual conservatives live in fear of their secret getting out so they have a phobia about teh gays. If you aren’t attracted to other men then what’s the problem with being in a place where there are other men?
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink
donndublin, who exactly is proposing the re-establish the fairness doctrine?
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Chuckie Schummer, Nancy Pelosi, Dennis Kucinich, ect………
In anticipation of President-Elect Obama’s imminent inauguration, I located this film clip this morning:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/28664496#28664496
I viewed Rev. Warren’s recent television appearances. As with many persons whom I respect, my agreement with them is usually not universal.
One of Warren’s statements was memorable: “My nature and inclination is to (be intimate) with as many women as I can. But I cannot – because I am married.” He further stated that this reasoning should be utilized to mandate celibacy for all homosexual persons.
That’s a powerful statement – it attests to the differences between men and women. Moreover, it is a testament to his honor and commitment. In that, I am very respectful of the hardworking minister, who donates the vast majority of his income to charitable causes. (Did the very dead Jerry Falwell exude the same altruism? I doubt it.)
But his reasoning is fraught, in my view, for one reason: Warren is married. He is not bound to celibacy. It is one thing to champion marital fidelity – it is another to require celibacy for every non-heterosexual.
My heart tells me this stringency is unfair. Yet I am troubled by several things – not the least of which are the revelations of child sex abuse in my former church. I’ve read several books during the recent past, and this must be said: The vast majority of abuse victims are young boys – as in, prepubescent boys.
Is there a sapphic counterpart to NAMBLA? I don’t believe so. Has any Catholic nun touted (and practiced) the rape of young girls – as did the infamous “Rev.” Paul Shanley, who openly touted pedophilic acts and blamed his victims concurrently? (And was NOT stripped of his vestments for his crimes???)
I am troubled. I am deeply troubled. I know what I have read – and I cannot brush it aside.
There comes a point – during discussions of divisive moral issues – when equanamity and tolerance must cease.
I would not dare accuse the Episcopal minister in this video of such bestiality. There is no evidence that this criminality has occurred on his part.
But the abuse of children scars the soul. I know what I have read. Twenty years ago, I never thought I would read of it. But I have. And it has had the unfortunate effect of de-sensitizing my soul at times. And that is a tragedy.
“As with many persons whom I respect, my agreement with them is usually not universal.”
Like you, I hear he hates Hispanics.
Fleetwoodie, get your frigging facts straight.
I never said I “hate” Hispanics. I said there was a very severe language barrier between me and my boss.
Tell me, dear – how in the hellola would you handle a total lack of communication with your superior? What if the dude (or woman) were French? Would you impress him/her with your verbal prowess?
“I eem kinky! And I’m in the boudoir! I eem your petit chou-chou! Poot on my leash and take me for walk down by the Champs Elysees!”
Could you make a go of this crap? Put up or shut up, you frigging tyrant.
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink
“I would say you’re the one with “homoerotic desires” since you’re in favor of the new policy Being a maggot, I doubt you were hit on.”
If I choose to make the stupid decision to serve in the military I wouldn’t have a problem serving with other men. You know, like the way it is now.
I know you are ignorant so you probably aren’t aware that there are group showers in places like schools, dorms, gyms, etc. For some reason repressed homosexual conservatives live in fear of their secret getting out so they have a phobia about teh gays. If you aren’t attracted to other men then what’s the problem with being in a place where there are other men?
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Probably for the same reason women don’t want to shower openly with men.
“Chuckie Schummer, Nancy Pelosi, Dennis Kucinich, ect………”
Yet, no bill has been proposed to reintroduce it. So who cares?
“Probably for the same reason women don’t want to shower openly with men.”
So you think women shouldn’t be in the military either? I really didn’t know the military was simply about showering. What a huge waste of money. Over a trillion dollars for a showering program.
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TomPaine
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:22 am | Permalink
How is allowing gays to openly serve in the military a step backwards?
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Well TomPaine,
Before the Clinton policy of ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ openly gays were asked by recruiters as to their sexual orientation as a matter of procedure. If they were admittedly gay they weren’t allowed to enlist. Most gays that were disccharged for their sexual orientation were actually discharged for ‘fraudulant enlistment’.
Since Clintion’s policy of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ was enacted it was still illegal to be ‘openly gay’. It was a violation of the UCMJ to participate in homosexual acts.
If ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ is repealed, recruiters may or may not reenstate the policy of asking about sexual orientation. Although Clinton’s policy wasn’t much of a step forward for gays, repealing it without changing the UCMJ (not likely to happen) would definitly be a step back.
BTW FilmFan, the street in which the Champ Elysees is located on, demonstrates the total lunacy of French Drivers. :)
If the military doesn’t want gays to enlist then the military doesn’t have an enlistment problem.
So, do we have 4 different bathrooms and 4 different showers now?
One for gay men, one for gay women, one for straight men, and one for gay women?
Or do we put all the gay men and women into the same shower and bathroom?
What if it is a homosexual man who complains about having to shower with other men?
Must we accomodate him or force him to shower with men?
It doesn’t have to be the straight man who is uncomfortable showering with a homosexual.
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink
“Chuckie Schummer, Nancy Pelosi, Dennis Kucinich, ect………”
Yet, no bill has been proposed to reintroduce it. So who cares?
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No, not yet, but now that they have control of both houses and the executive office, it’s just a matter of time.
Talk about Global Warming! Anyone look outside today?
Oh wait, nevermind, it is “Climate Change” now.
I think this is a perfect time for Gore to be up in the North East talking about Global Warming.
LOL
Yeah, my sister had difficulty in France when she lived abroad in 1973-1974.
She told me horror stories about the awful Pigale district, which she inadvertently stumbled into while shopping one afternoon.
Some drunken sleazebag tried to molest her while she waited for a taxi – but she told him off in technicolor – and the gargoylian garcon ran off in a beaucoups of a hurry.
When she returned home for Christmas of ‘74, I had to field a flurry of phone calls from forlorn and frustrated frenchmen. My sister, a former part-time model while attending KU, was then quite beautiful. And there were evidently quite a few smitten swains who wished to climb the Eiffel with my late sibling.
Oh, wait! Fleetwoodie’s gonna accuse me of hatin’
the French! And I don’t! I really, really don’t!
But an employee needs to be able to understand her boss.
Except Fleetwood. He must have extra-sensory abilities or something! Wow! Maybe I should ask to kiss his ring or something!!!
“No, not yet, but now that they have control of both houses and the executive office, it’s just a matter of time.”
Yeah, I guess because Pelosi has no power in the House and for the past couple years the Democrats were in the minority in the house. Or perhaps it’s just the conservatives creating another controversy where there is none. Invest in more tin foil.
Nathan, how is it that you have still been unable to determine the difference between weather and climate?
Maggotpunk,
I don’t answer loaded questions.
Nathan, your stupidity is painful.
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 11:06 am | Permalink
“Probably for the same reason women don’t want to shower openly with men.”
So you think women shouldn’t be in the military either? I really didn’t know the military was simply about showering. What a huge waste of money. Over a trillion dollars for a showering program.
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What an idiot. Your argument is going down in flames so you start projecting wildly. NO wonder you’re known as the blog idiot.
So you’re in favor of gang rape in the military(sarcamism off).
MPunk–
It’s the same problem Nathan has with socialism.
The gov’t paying doctors to treat sick kids = socialism.
The gov’t paying soldiers to defend our country = not socialism . . . just payment for work.
You see the difference, right?
“Except Fleetwood. He must have extra-sensory abilities or something!”
None needed when you said what you said yesterday.
Don, your requirement for the military is showering facilities. I’m just amazed by the weak arguments of the conservatives. Actually I’m not, ignorance and weak minds produce irrational arguments.
I take it you are a believer in the “army of one”. You won’t serve with men, won’t serve with women, it’ll be just you.
But, what about the kids? Our grandkids?
“House Democrats have proposed $650 million to continue the coupon program for the transition to digital television, which is set to take place on Feb. 17.”
“You see the difference, right?”
Naturally Captain. Doctors save lives, soldiers kill people. Therefore, since Republicans are pro-life it makes sense to spend a trillion dollars on the military but whine about how much is being wasted on health care.
sarcasm off
Bush does not disappoint in his last press conference.
Even though he deliberately used the word “misunderestimate” to poke fun at his idiotic use of English, he still delievered a doozy of an example:
I’m telling you there’s an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That’s the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best.”
Good analysis, MP.
And since our American lives are so much more important than anybody else’s lives, we have to spend more on our military than all the militaries of the world combined.
Man, that would be a lot of socialism if it were socialism, which it’s not, so stop saying that . . .
Nathan or Hank,
I’m curious what you think of HR 45 which will require all gun owners to be licensed and all gun owners to register their guns serial numbers/model/location?
Thanks
CapnAmerica,
Just because you think you can reduce the two things to the simplist of sentence structures to compare them, now somehow you think you have proven something?
Nathaniel posted January 15, 2009 at 11:21 am
I don’t answer loaded questions.
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Nathaniel just asks loaded questions, and he states falsehoods as facts.
Maggot is in favor of women and men showering together in communal living quarters with no military, no constitution, free food, health care, housing, 100% taxes and no one should be required to work.
Maggotpunk posted January 15, 2009 at 11:27 am
“You see the difference, right?”
Naturally Captain. Doctors save lives, soldiers kill people. Therefore, since Republicans are pro-life it makes sense to spend a trillion dollars on the military but whine about how much is being wasted on health care.
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Very well said, Maggotpunk.
It definitely makes sense to the Republicans. . .
Re: Gays in the military
Come on now, anybody who has ever served in any branch (Army for me) knew which were the guys and gals who went the other way. They went to their places on leaves, and we went to ours. Living in an open barracks and showering together has nothing to do with it. Them that does, do; them that don’t, don’t. There is the same chance of getting groped, or groping, as there is in any social situation.
All the hoo-hah is bogus blatherings of homophobes.
Dennis
Thank don, keep on investing in that tin foil. With metal prices it’s now a good time to buy.
Awwwww, donndublin wants some soup.
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 11:19 am | Permalink
Nathan, how is it that you have still been unable to determine the difference between weather and climate?
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I know. Weather is weather. But according to the AGW alarmists, “climate” would be that period that is long enough to portray the world as warming, but not so long as to put the warming in the context of the warming and cooling changes that have occurred over longer periods of time.
All the hoo-hah is bogus blatherings of homophobes. Dennis
Ah yes, calling names is much easier than thinking.
unable to determine the difference between weather and climate?
10TH warmest winter in 150 years.
Seems like weather isn’t important…until it is…
Amway –
RE: H.R. 45.
Ironic, the number assigned, isn’t it? Because the goal of this legislation is to begin the process of removing that same .45, as well as any other firearm our masters deem “qualifying,” from the hands of American citizens.
That is the goal, of course, of much of the Democratic leadership, though they will not say so (in fact, they will deny same, advocating instead “reasonable” regulation). To say so is political suicide.
H.R. 45 is an open declaration of war on millions of American citizens, the Constitution, and limitied government. Thankfully, it’s unlikely to come even close to passing; even most of the most avid of gun-banners see this as too much too fast. No, they’ll take the small steps, advocating each as “reasonable,” hoping to avoid the kind of reaction that H.R. 45 will draw.
Perhaps that is it’s purpose, of course: to draw the wrath of Americans, so that when “reasonable” restrictions, like a new “Scaaaawy Black Rifle” ban, are proposed, they will not seem so extreme. The goal is the same, of course; only the tactics differ.
Nathan–
And just because you can ask a question, it does not a refutation make.
I say there is no difference between the socialism of the gov’t paying doctors to treat kids and that of the gov’t paying soldiers to defend the country from foreign invasion.
Or for that matter, paying firemen for fire and rescue and the police to stop crime.
It’s all a kind of socialism.
Feel free to refute that contention if you can. So far, nothing you’ve written refutes it at all.
Awwwww. . . outlander and SolDevVB also want soup.
“Hansen admits to many “adjustments” to his temperature data but claims that they are statistically based. His final “data” certainly diverges strongly from the raw data. Lubos Motl below thinks he has found “made up” data rather than statistically adjusted data. Hansen will not reveal the details of his adjustment procedures so that does feed suspicions. Motl did not find similar divergences from randomness in climate datasets from other sources”
Just what is it hansen has to hide? Isn’t science supposed to be transparent?
Awwww. cosmos is out of feces to throw…
Hey AmWay,
HR 45
1. Require licensing for anybody that owns a gun.
2. Would require photographs and a thumbprint
3. Would require passage of a test that covers:
(A) the safe storage of firearms, particularly in the vicinity of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;
(B) the safe handling of firearms;
(C) the use of firearms in the home and the risks associated with such use;
(D) the legal responsibilities of firearms owners, including Federal, State, and local laws relating to requirements for the possession and storage of firearms, and relating to reporting requirements with respect to firearms; and
(E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;
It also mandates licensing, registration and safe storage for handguns and semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines. It also provides for inspection, so you surrender your fourth amendment rights by being licensed. It also requires reporting of Lost and Stolen firearms, and you must inform the federal government if you change addresses.
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I don’t think it has much of a chance.
I say there is no difference between the socialism of the gov’t paying doctors to treat kids and that of the gov’t paying soldiers to defend the country from foreign invasion.
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Except the role of government to “provide for the common defense” is specified in the Constitution.
Reg,
Read the first paragraph. You were in the military. Have I made sense?
There is no reason for insult. I’m just making a point.
Dennis
BTW, there’s quite a bit of evidence showing that countries with the most socialized system of health care also have the best health.
The European countries and Japan all have socialized medicine and they all have longer life spans. Even the French who smoke like chimneys have longer life spans. So do the freaking CUBANS.
No doubt the CONs will trot out their anecdotal evidence of my cousin’s girlfriend’s nephew who lived in Canada and had to come to Chicago to get by-pass surgery or something.
But these isolated anecdotes do not refute the massive quantitative evidence that shows we pay more and get less for medical care than any other industrialized country in the world.
“Except the role of government to “provide for the common defense” is specified in the Constitution.”
So is “promote the general welfare”.
Another of Bloomberg’s “mayors against illegal guns” ends up in cuffs.
OK. This is Seven.
By the latest count.
Passaic, NJ Mayor Samuel Rivera
Frank Melton, of Jackson MS
Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick
Birmingham, Al Mayor Larry Langford
Baltimore Mayor Sheila Dixon
Jeremiah Healey of Jersey City
Are joined in their fine club of indicted and/or convicted MAIG mayors by Racine, WI Mayor Gary Becker.
“Promote” is quite different than “provide”.
Welfare is promoted by providing for it.
CapnAmerica
Posted January 15, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink
BTW, there’s quite a bit of evidence showing that countries with the most socialized system of health care also have the best health.
Complete red herring. Lifestyles, eating habits, work hours, types of work completed, level of education…
None of those factors play into your straw man. Making a point is easy when you cherry pick your data; just as cosmos.
Actually, the foreign countries I’ve visited have substandard levels of health care, especially emergency care.
Instead of treating people in the field “the golden hour” in emergencies, the Europeans like to throw people on the meat wagon and cart them to a hospital no matter how far away it is, without life saving measures done in the field or ambulance.
At the time, the Europeans were also extremely deficient in implementing advanced trauma and advance cardiac life support procedures in crisis situations. In the U.S., even at the technician level, advanced emergency cardiac care is thoroughly taught and implemented.
The Europeans, especially Germans, have this thing about holistic medicine. They will send a terminally ill patient off to some spa where they can bathe and oil themselves straight into an early death instead of aggressively treating the disease.
Needless to say, the long lines for elective surgery in Europe and other social medicine countries is mind numbingly long.
Want to get those ovaries taken out? Get in line behind the other 50,000 women that want it as well. Got a hammer toe that’s causing you problem? Buy three or four years of calendars and you can mark off the days until it’s time for your surgery.
Socialized medicine is not as great as it’s cracked up to be.
It’s interesting that you bring that up, outlander, because the Founders were almost unanimous in their opposition to a “standing” Army.
They had seen throughout history how often the people with the guns simply took over the government. Also, you have to pay soldiers even when there is no war to fight, so it’s costly.
Now we have the most expensive “standing” army in the world and one of the biggest. Five percent of the world’s population (the US) spends 51 percent of the world’s military budget.
When you complain about taxes, you’re really complaining about the cost of the military.
Because that’s where most of the money is going . . .
SolDevVB,
No, I’ve got lots of very delicious and nutritious soup.
But you always throw it away, so I’m not going to waste it on you.
Like $52 billion spent each year on nukes.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Revealed_US_spends_more_than_52_0112.html
Shatty government, all 3 branches.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090114/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_evidence
SolDevVB
Posted January 15, 2009 at 11:53 am | Permalink
Awwww. cosmos is out of feces to throw…
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 15, 2009 at 12:07 pm | Permalink
SolDevVB,
No, I’ve got lots of very delicious and nutritious soup.
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That is just SICK
Read this at least three times cosmos, it may save your life.
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Feces is not soup. Do not eat feces.
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God save you.
Praise be.
As if on cue, Regular trots out his list of personal anecdotes.
Gee, that’s nice.
But if their trauma centers are so bad and holistic approach so wrong, why do they live so much longer than we do?
And have fewer major debilitating childhood illnesses?
And less infant mortality?
And less general obesity and diabetes and heart disease and the whole range of disease?
The statistics don’t lie–we pay 15 percent of “medical costs” to corporate paper pushers, many of whom are employed with the job of finding reasons to deny YOUR treatment. The Europeans pay 2 percent to administrative overhead.
That’s a huge difference right there.
But if their trauma centers are so bad and holistic approach so wrong, why do they live so much longer than we do?
Lifestyle and eating habits. Simple.
Translation to the above –
Bob
Weave
Repeat.
When the military has to do something, they do it correctly and it has a benefit for the non-military society. Case in point – racial integration.
Thus, the reason I favor allowing gays in the military and repealing “Don’t ask, don’t tell”, which was a hugely stupid Clinton compromise.
Aren’t there examples of gays in the military in other countries that could be our guide? And aren’t there times when women have been bullied into sexual relationship with male superior officers in the military? Haven’t there been mechanisms in place to deal with those power abuses?
I am hoping that sense will prevail under a President Obama. We shall see, though.
The Crapn spews: But if their trauma centers are so bad and holistic approach so wrong, why do they live so much longer than we do
The U.S. has a much denser population of mixed races at higher risk than Germanic genetics.
If one would compare Germanic genetic lines in the U.S. and compare them to Germanic lines in Germany, you would find a similar life expectancy.
CapnAmerica,
A military, police force, and fire department are all things that we as people can’t practically do ourselves.
Not every home can have a fire truck just in case nor a police officer to enforce laws for them.
So we pool our resources to provide these services for EVERYONE to some degree.
Health care is already available. Individuals can go to the doctor, they can get health care and they can do this all without the government.
Now, you feel good liberals come along and want to take money from other people to provide health care to others. That is why it is different.
BlueJay can get a job, pay for his own sons health care, but he chooses not to. Instead he expects us to do it for him because he is too good to work for it.
Then liberals like you come along and try to argue that our paying for his son’s health care is the same thing as paying for a firetruck and fireman?
I don’t think so.
I’m going to pretend you didn’t write that racist crap, Regular.
Also, even if one truly believed that Teutons were “healthier” (zeig heil!), that doesn’t explain the Cubans.
CapnAmerica,
How can one profess to believe in Evolution yet bawk at the very notion that different races have differences?
GLOBAL WARMING! LOOK OUT!
Wicked: Coldest Temps In Over A Decade
First Day With A Low Colder Than -10 In Chicago Since 1999
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/brutal.cold.day.2.908889.html
How cold is it? Flint’s 95-year-old record low falls as 19 below zero hits city
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2009/01/how_cold_is_it_flints_95yearol.html
CapnAmerica
Posted January 15, 2009 at 12:29 pm | Permalink
I’m going to pretend you didn’t write that racist crap, Regular.
Also, even if one truly believed that Teutons were “healthier” (zeig heil!), that doesn’t explain the Cubans
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I didn’t make it up. Perhaps you need to take an epidemiology course or courses as I have and you’ll understand that races relegated to subculture styles of certain life patterns are at higher risk for terminal illnesses and disease.
The Japanese have longer life expectancies as well. Partly due to diet, but mostly due to lifestyle and custom.
These practice of custom and diet have great influence have tremendous influence on life expectancy.
Or Crapn, you can remain blind to the facts.
Nathan —
(Shhhhh!!!!) Cosmos is figuring out that feces does NOT = soup. Don’t disturb her.
Record snowfall, plunging temperatures hit the area
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/indianheadpark/homepage/x1017440124/Record-snowfall-plunging-temperatures-hit-the-area
SolDevVB obviously does not have a “digestive” system.
He does not need “food” (aka facts), and he cannot “process” it.
have great influence have tremendous
should read as:
have great influenceandhave tremendous
SolDevVB,
Remember the “record” high temps a few years ago? How everytime some place set a new record high or there was a heat wave they talked about Global Warming?
I know the difference between weather and climate.
I am trying to illustrate that the liberals don’t understand how they are hypocritcal nitwits.
He does not need “food” (aka facts),
Now that you understand feces soup, I challenge you cosmos.
Eat nothing but *facts* for the next 30 days.
Damn HTML scrubber. feces does NOT equal soup
Okay, Nathan, not bad . . . not good . . . but not bad.
You have some clear distinction between police, fire, roads etc and health care.
If you set it up as a syllogism, it would look like this:
What we can do for ourselves, we should not ask government to do for us.
We can’t provide police protection for ourselves.
Therefore, we should ask gov’t to do it for us.
And conversely,
What we can do for ourselves, we should not ask government to do for us.
We can buy healthcare for ourselves.
Therefore, gov’t should not provide it for us.
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The problem is with the minor premise in the second syllogism.
50 thousand Americans don’t have health insurance. Many tens of thousands more don’t have enough health insurance.
The system we have does not allow a sizable percentage of Americans to “provide health care for themselves,” your premise is false, so the argument is not sound.
In fact, that is precisely the difference between the US and every other industrialized country in the world. We–or rather the CONs–act as though anyone who wants healthcare here can get it, and the rest of the world believes that it’s more efficient and effective if gov’t provides it to everyone.
Judging from the results, they’re right. The CONs are wrong.
“I don’t think it has much of a chance.”
Thanks Hank and GMC!
I hope you are correct, although I am thinking I would love the democrats to bring this topic up just as soon as the President is installed.
That slim 52/47 landslide victory would quickly dissolve.
But I suspect Obama will re-enact the Clinton era ban on semi-auto/assualt weapons (whatever big scary guns that includes).
Neither action will stop any criminals from shooting people and robbing banks. And the big scary guns account for very very few of the gun murders each year.
But it does make uneducated people feel better thinking they got the scary guns off the streets.
Nathan,
Silly rabbit !!! You can’t comment on weather unless you are saying
10TH WARMEST WINTER ON RECORD
That means climate. When there are record lows, that is just weather.
PS – don’t trust the “soup” from cosmos for a while until you are certain she has figured out the whole feces\soup deal…
Regular–
When one thinks of a healthy lifestyle, one thinks of Cubans.
Sheesh.
Did Clinton use Executive Action to ban the assault weapons?
I can’t remember. Must be getting old. I do recall it didn’t dampen the number of murders.
Climate or Weather, it doesn’t make a darn bit of difference….it’s cold.
Climate change is a big scam!
Chicago has most consecutive days of snowfall since records began in 1884…
Flint, Michigan breaks 95-year-old record…
Blowing snow, frigid temps pound nation…
40 BELOW ZERO…
Frigid air, perhaps coldest of winter…
Watches/Warnings…
Live Chill Map…
http://www.drudgereport.com/
Crapn,
Preventive medicine is the key to longer life expectancy. Match that with self-moderating life style and you have the key to better health and longer life.
Unfortunately for the U.S., there are a lot of subcultures predominately divided by race, but not always, that have cultural practices that put them at high risk for lifestyle diseases such as diabetes, heart and circulatory problems.
Philosophy of lifestyle is something learned by the older European and Asian races as key to longer living.
Want to lower health care costs and live longer? Practice moderation and keep a good diet along with exercise.
It’s really that simple.
Stop it Box, you’re making me cold. :(
Sorry :)
But it’s not me Reg, it’s the ‘climate’, ha!
CapnAmerica
Posted January 15, 2009 at 12:43 pm | Permalink
Regular–
When one thinks of a healthy lifestyle, one thinks of Cubans.
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I would imagine the Cuban population practices moderation and are more physically active.
They don’t have fat-laden Burger King, McDonalds or other types of high fat/calorie food at every corner.
Most likely, due to their limitation of available transportation, they walk to where they want to go instead of driving six blocks to eat a ‘fat burger.’
Sorry Crapn, but your comparison of life expectancy leaves out the importance of moderation, exercise and cultural practices.
No amount of arm flailing will translate better medicine into life expectancy. Preventive practices such as cultural influences have greater control as preventive medicine than trying to treat a disease after years of self abuse.
You lose and lose badly Crapn.
“50 thousand Americans don’t have health insurance.”
There you go again making a mountain out of a molehill.
According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident population of the United States, projected to 01/15/09 at 18:45 GMT (EST+5) is
305,620,818
minus 50,000
305,570,818 do have health insurance.
The vast majority of Americans have health insurance
Now, that 50,000 is an inflated number which someone else can post includes nearly 23,000 illegal criminals in America. It also includes people who are eligible for health insurance but by their own inaction choose not to pay for it.
So the percentage of Americans truly without insurance is very minor.
But like thoe big black assault weapons, democrats create hysteria in order to take over another aspect of freedom in America.
(I won’t even address your comment, “don’t have enough health insurance”) unless you can define to me what is “enough”.)
CapnAmerica,
It is always fun listening to people like you talk about how great the health care is in other countries. Have you been there and used their health care?
My friend was in England this past summer. Her sister fell off a horse and had to be taken to the ER. Where the ER ran no tests, no X-rays, no nothing.
The doctor looked at her and gave her some pain meds and told her to go home.
There are signs in the waiting room that say in bold letters and very large print that anyone who tries to argue with any of the staff will be subject to arrest.
Very welcoming place.
The first visit to the ER, well, that was covered. Insisting to be seen again because there was something wrong and pain meds were not fixing the problem? Well, that was going to cost money.
So, my friend brought her sister back to America where they took some X-rays, seen she had some problems with her bones, and had her fixed.
All that with no sign threatening an arrest in the waiting room.
This is an anecdotal story, yes, but the truth of the matter is that you have no idea of what the health care system is actually like in those countries.
How many of the so-called 50 million uninsured are that way by choice?
How many BlueJays are there that refuse to get a better job and then hold their hand out expecting to get health care?
How many young adults are there in the prime of their life who would rather go out and drink beer every weekend than pay for their own health care?
Your 50 million un-insured number is a farce.
Americans have access to some of the best health care in the world. They are just too lazy or self absrobed to pay for it.
So happy feel good liberals like yourself think that everyone else should pay for it.
And then you try to equate it to firemen, police, and military.
Hey Boxlock:
Des Moines set a record 40 below this AM?
Also, Cleveland coldest weather in a decade I saw yesterday on the blog.
News Item — Barack Obama’s heading out to the Cleveland area tomorrow to promote his economic rescue plan. Obama is scheduled to appear at a factory that makes parts for wind turbines.
Meanwhile, Cessna will lay off 2,000 workers because Bushonomics had made luxury private aircraft for CEOs a ridiculously extravagant and unnecessary perk.
Gee. If we only had a business experienced with shaping sheet metal and making propeller-shaped thingies.
SolDevVB posted January 15, 2009 at 12:39 pm
He does not need “food” (aka facts),
Now that you understand feces soup, I challenge you cosmos.
Eat nothing but *facts* for the next 30 days.
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SolDevVB,
Eventually, reality will force you to understand the “facts”.
It’s just your denial of AGW science, based on your falsehoods, ignorance, and confusion, versus science.
“Sorry Crapn, but your comparison of life expectancy leaves out the importance of moderation, exercise and cultural practices.”
It leaves out quality of life too.
We can probably hook humans up to machines, which ensure they are intravenously fed exact nutrients, don’t expose them to outside air, provide artificial sunlight, and suspend them on safe beds so they do not hurt themselves falling off ladders, out of cars, etc…..Ban smoking, drinking, burger king, and french fries.
Ultimately, isn’t that big brother should be doing? Providing everything in life.. every comfort. Put us in cages to protect us all.
“Meanwhile, Cessna will lay off 2,000 workers because … had made luxury private aircraft for CEOs”
You mean like those auto CEO’s who everyone whined about flying on luxury jets? Heck, you libs have shamed rich aircraft owners into believing they are EVIL EVIL!
So what do they do? Sell their luxury airplanes.
Pretty good deal. Cuts down on jobs and carbon imprint.
OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH
SNAP
I think I now know why cosmos can’t distinguish between soup and poop.
Also why her posts are so hysterical…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkem
Cosmos,
When will this “reality” take place?
It has been getting colder, not warmer. Even when it was getting warmer it was by what? A tenth of a degree with predictions of perhaps 1 whole degree?
OH MY, IT IS GLOBAL WARMING! AHHHHHHHHH
What a joke. Reality? This is reality and the reality is that AGW is a joke. I am sorry, climate change is a joke.
It is such a joke that you have to come up with different names for it so that you can trick people.
We can probably hook humans up to machines, which ensure they are intravenously fed exact nutrients, don’t expose them to outside air, provide artificial sunlight, and suspend them on safe beds so they do not hurt themselves falling off ladders, out of cars, etc
Welcome to the Matrix. Will you take the blue pill… or the red pill….
IF Climate change is such a joke, then why are some of you continuing to post all of the snowfall amounts, and record low temperatures?? AND, you all insist the climate is getting COLDER…. If climate change is such a joke, then getting COLDER is equally as irrelevant as getting WARMER…
Do keep trying…. I was honestly hoping we might have a one day moratorium on the whole business of climate change today… Oh well….
Chas
Posted January 15, 2009 at 1:23 pm | Permalink
IF Climate change is such a joke, then why are some of you continuing to post all of the snowfall amounts, and record low temperatures?
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You haven’t been paying attention Chas.
It’s they hype of AGW versus the reality of cyclical, natural climate change.
Cyclical, natural climate change is the dominate force in determining ANY climate change.
That’s no brag, but fact. Millions of year of climate change proves me correct.
HLP
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:12 am | Permalink
UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE
ART. 125. SODOMY
IF those who are openly gay are admitted to the military, where is there anything that would keep the military from telling those gay folks that they keep their “relationships” off of military bases, and definitely out of “open” barracks??
There are a few denominations who ordain openly gay clergy, who also do NOT allow those openly gay clergy, to live in gay relationships, while in the Parish setting…
If those openly gay clergy violate that understanding, then, they are OUT… I know of several situations where that has happened…. and I dont feel one bit sorry for those who were ousted for violating the understanding of the ordaining denomination…
chas has eaten the poop soup.
Nathaniel claims that his falsehoods are facts.
comos eats poop soup.
ALSO, I dont see any reason why separate showers for men and women would be eliminated. A friend of mine is a Lt. on a fire department that allows openly gay folks to serve in the department… There are separate showers and restroom facilities for men and women… And there have not been any problems… well, except for the few instances where somebody has seen fit to try to violate the “rules”…. as can happen in any setting.
If military pesonnel who are openly gay, violate the rules… then the UCMJ rule would see to it that such individuals were rightfully tossed out…
As to the monkey in florida…. I heard earlier that somebody has proposed naming him:
Hu Flungh Dungh
SOL — FYI… Yesterday, I proposed a one day moratorium on climate change discourse…
Looks to me like you and others just couldnt get over your Cosmos obsession…
This one’s for BlowJ, with his mindless union orientation.
Someone be sure he see’s it.
A dedicated UAW union worker was attending a convention in Las Vegas and decided to check out the local brothels. When he got to the first one, he asked the Madam, “Is this a union house?”
“No,” she replied, “I’m sorry it isn’t.”
“Well, if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?”
“The house gets $80 and the girls get $20,” she answered
Offended at such unfair dealings, the union man stomped off down the street in search of a more equitable, hopefully unionized shop. His search continued until finally he reached a brothel where the Madam responded, “Why yes sir, this is a union house.
We observe all union rules.”
The man asked, “And if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?” “The girls get $80 and the house gets $20.”
“That’s more like it!” the union man said.
He handed the Madam $100, looked around the roo m, and pointed to a stunningly attractive blonde.
“I’d like her,” he said.
“I’m sure you would, sir,” said the Madam. Then she gestured to a 92-year old woman in the corner, “but Ethel here has 67 years seniority and according to union rules, she’s next.”
Nathan trots out the “my friend’s sister” story.
Read above for my cousin’s girlfriend’s nephew.
Do you have a picture of the sign?
Are you saying that English doctors routinely ignore broken bones?
Because if you are, that would lead to infection and very high mortality rates which aren’t showing up in the statistical evidence.
BTW, since you prefer the anecdote to actual quantitive data, consider this: a fellow worker of mine was in England and got sick and he couldn’t believe the good care he got. When he tried to pay, they just laughed at him. He told them “but I’m an American,” and they said, “we take care of the sick in our country.”
True story.
Has no one ever joined a health club?!
A golf or tennis facility?
The YMCA for jogging in the winter or playing pick-up basketball one night a week?
If you have, you’ve showered with gays.
I can almost guarantee it, even if it was church league.
You homophobes have this weird fantasy you’re somehow so attractive a potential love partner no gay guy could possibly resist your charms and would force you into an@l conjugation in a public setting.
The depth and level of CON narcissism never ceases to astound me.
Just keep your home address secret, “Regular.” If word gets out every GQ model in history will be hanging out on your porch just for the chance to tap you.
CapnAmerica
Posted January 15, 2009 at 12:40 pm | Permalink
“and the rest of the world believes that it’s more efficient and effective if gov’t provides it to everyone”
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Only libs think this is true. lol
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Nathaniel: I’ve been in 2 different emergency rooms in the UK and never saw such a sign… nor had such careless treatment as you indicate. I’ve lived a few years where universal insurance is the norm and also visited the UK often enough to counter any of your heresay. Capt. is right, countries with the highest scholastic results, standards of living, overall health/longeviety, and lower murder/crime rates all have stronger social safety nets which very few fall through. Google some of the above categories for results and see where America stands…it’s annoying.
Chas
Posted January 15, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
HLP
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:12 am | Permalink
UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE
ART. 125. SODOMY
IF those who are openly gay are admitted to the military, where is there anything that would keep the military from telling those gay folks that they keep their “relationships” off of military bases, and definitely out of “open” barracks??
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Actually a pretty good question, Chas. To my knowledge, (I’ve been retired 23 years now) no. However, merely repealing ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ doesn’t do much for the gays in the military.
There is a misconception among many that ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ allows people to be openly gay today. It doesn’t. If a commanding officer today has evidence that someone has been a practicing homosexual he is required to prosecute under the UCMJ.
Sodomy is still against the UCMJ. It would take an act of Congress to change that. What are the chances?
I don’t think I ever served on a submarine that didn’t have a gay or two on it. If I suspected a shipmate was gay I wouldn’t ‘tell’. Furthermore, I never ‘asked’ anyone I suspected of being a homosexual if they were. Kick a gay off a submarine and you’ve just made two other sailors port and starboard watch standers.
Most sailors I know didn’t care what a man did during his off time if he did his job on the boat.
Boxlock20
Posted January 15, 2009 at 1:38 pm | Permalink
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lol good one Box
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 14, 2009 at 9:16 pm | Permalink
bigotbawks posted January 14, 2009 at 8:38 pm
It’s an enormous waste of taxpayer money. I hope they freeze their a$$ off.
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Lows are only around 30 to 40 deg F. in Iraq.
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ROFLMAO, Somebody needs to tell cosMo that Iraq is in a desert region and has a latitude range of 29 to 37 degrees compared to 39 degrees for D.C.
More proof he is scientifically challenged.
Good grief Dublin…. are you so hard up, that you have to re-run yesterdays old posts?? LOL
Chas posted January 15, 2009 at 1:23 pm
I was honestly hoping we might have a one day moratorium on the whole business of climate change today… Oh well….
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The AGW deniers cannot stop posting their ignorance and lies.
They’re scared, because they know that their ignorance and lies wont work much longer.
Todd’s not gonna hang around the house –
http://tinyurl.com/76p6l7
Kansas Congressman Todd Tiahrt told Kansas Liberty Wednesday that he was committed to seeking the Senate seat Brownback will vacate in two years. His Republican colleague in the U.S. House, Rep. Jerry Moran, indicated to Kansas Liberty last week that he also was committed to running.
“I knew over a year ago that Sen. Brownback would keep his term limits pledge and not seek another term, and I starting preparing to make a run then,” Tiahrt said. However, he kept those plans quiet, as he was mapping out his campaign for re-election to the U.S. House.
“I thought it would be bad form to start talking about a Senate run while I was running for the House,” he said.
They’re scared, because they know that their ignorance and lies wont work much longer.
LMFAO – Tell that to the lack of mercury in the thermometers. Lay off the jenkem. It is apparent whose – stuff- is weak here.
So what does hansen have to hide? Why won’t he release his formula for -tweaking- his data? What does he have to hide?
Has hansen’s -tweaking- algorithm been peer reviewed?
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 10:55 am | Permalink
GMC, the problem happened because of deregulation, not because of more regulation.
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GMC70
Posted January 15, 2009 at 11:13 am | Permalink
Maggot, maggot, maggot.
As it’s often said, for every complex problem, there’s a simple solution.
And it’s wrong.
Try to look past your ideology and neat labels at the whole world; there’s a lot more going on than a simple “deregulation, BAD, Ugh!,” as Ben, for example, has acknowledged.
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 15, 2009 at 11:16 am | Permalink
GMC, it appears the deregulation was bad as it cost Californians billions which Enron pocketed. How’s that Enron stock doing anyway? The story is four years old but it sounds like this is the first time you’ve heard about it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/01/eveningnews/main620626.shtml
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 15, 2009 at 11:48 am | Permalink
GMC70 posted January 15, 2009 at 11:13 am
As it’s often said, for every complex problem, there’s a simple solution.
And it’s wrong.
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Providing long-term, sustainable, low or zero GHG emitting energy is a complex problem.
But coal is not part of that solution, unless the technology, costs, and risks of CCS can be solved. And “simply” put, that seems unlikely.
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Yeah right cosMo. Even though it was on the Chu thread, the previous posts had nothing to do with AGW but you were chomping at the bit to post your babble proving again that you’re a liar.
Chas, Who made you the blog dictator?
Sorry guys. Blame the uninsured, blame the ill and tell phony stories about healthcare overseas all you want.
Universal health care is coming.
It will make America better and more productive and competitive. It will cost less to keep people healthy with regular care instead of treating them when conditions get out of hand. Recent studies of older diabetes patients proved this.
We do not need insurance companies eating 30% of each health care dollar for slowly shuffling papers and finding new reasons to deny benefits.
“DavidB” –
You’re right, of course.
“Universal health care is coming.”
Did change.gov tell you to say that?
Does change.gov tell you what to think?
SolDevVB,
You’re just a nic on an anonymous blog.
If you’re really confident about your AGW denial and want to prove it, then give your friends, family, etc printouts of your posts here.
SolDevVB, you’re confident enough to do that, aren’t you?
“Chávez reopens oil bids to West as prices plunge”
A socialist that is forced to wake up to the superiority of capitalism.
CARACAS: “President Hugo Chávez, buffeted by falling oil prices that threaten to damage his efforts to establish a Socialist-inspired state, is quietly courting Western oil companies once again.
Until recently, Chávez had pushed foreign oil companies here into a corner by nationalizing their oil fields, raiding their offices with tax authorities and imposing a series of royalties increases.
But faced with the plunge in prices and a decline in domestic production, senior officials here have begun soliciting bids from some of the largest Western oil companies in recent weeks — including Chevron, Royal Dutch/Shell and Total of France — promising them access to some of the world’s largest petroleum reserves, according to energy executives and industry consultants here.”
“Chávez is celebrating the demise of capitalism as this international crisis unfolds,” said Pedro Mario Burelli, a former board member of Petróleos de Venezuela. “But the irony is that capitalism actually fed his system in times of plenty,” he said. “That is something Chávez will discover the hard way.”
After bombing a hospital, a media building and some high rise apartment complexes Israel decided to drop some chemical weapons on a UN building. The UN building was the HQ for food and medicine distribution.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Official_U.N._Gaza_complex_hit_with_0115.html
So much for the excuse that they don’t target civilians with their chemical weapons.
and want to prove it, then give your friends, family, etc printouts of your posts here.
Hmmm, you think they follow your faith cosmos? Whiffed on that one scooter.
Hey, why don’t you pitch a tent in your back yard and go camping tonight. Bask in the glorry of your faith.
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DavidB
Posted January 15, 2009 at 3:04 pm | Permalink
Sorry guys. Blame the uninsured, blame the ill and tell phony stories about healthcare overseas all you want.
Universal health care is coming.
It will make America better and more productive and competitive. It will cost less to keep people healthy with regular care instead of treating them when conditions get out of hand. Recent studies of older diabetes patients proved this.
We do not need insurance companies eating 30% of each health care dollar for slowly shuffling papers and finding new reasons to deny benefits.
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Anybody doing work with the government knows you don’t nothing about “shuffling papers” until you work with government.
“Bask in the glorry of your faith.”
Prraise be.
Here’s a good example of how far the fear of drugs has destroyed the compassion of a nation.
Iraq vet loses free home offer after drug plea
The Associated Press
Posted : Wednesday Jan 14, 2009 20:52:05 EST
FORSYTH, Mo. — A nonprofit that builds homes for severely injured soldiers has rescinded its offer to a Branson veteran after he was convicted of a felony drug charge.
Scott West pleaded guilty Dec. 11 to possession of a controlled substance with intent to distribute. The charge carries a sentence of five to 15 years in prison.
West lost both legs while serving in Iraq when his Humvee hit a roadside bomb. He was slated to receive a free house from Massachusetts-based Homes for Our Troops, but lost the offer under the group’s provision that veterans who commit felonies are not eligible.
“We take very seriously our obligations to our donors and volunteers,” John S. Gonsalves, founder of Homes for Our Troops, told the Springfield News-Leader for a story published Tuesday. “That is why our agreements with servicemen and women include a provision that allows us to end a project if it was clear the veteran has committed a felony criminal act.”
West was arrested after an Oct. 1, 2007, traffic stop in Taney County netted law officers 2.5 pounds of marijuana under the car seat, smoking pipes and digital scales.
According to the incident report, the officer who made the stop smelled marijuana coming from West’s car. The officer said in the report that he remembered receiving an anonymous tip that West might be involved in illegal drugs.
The officer told West about the tip and asked if he could search the car, the report says. West agreed to the search and told the officer that he had medical marijuana under the seat. Later, he led deputies to his house, where they found drug paraphernalia.
In late December, West told the News-Leader that despite his guilty plea, the drugs found in his car weren’t his and he doesn’t deal drugs.
West’s sentencing is scheduled for Feb. 19.
A report by an immigration lawyer in a newspaper in Eliott Lake News and Views in Ontario notes that hundered of thousand of Canadian health care cards are bogus and being used by non-citizens while visiting the country. He writes that those living in border states can rent or buy these cards for treatment and in some cases borrow them from their family members in Canada for free treatment or care. Seems the Insurance System got around this by having photo ID now on their health cards. Imagine that, Americans going to Canada for health care!I thought we only heard of stories about how they come here, false of course but often told.
“Elliot Lake News & Views is a blog designed to stimulate reasoned debates between commentators on some taboo topics that may be deemed “politically-incorrect”. Acceptance or rejection of post material is at your personal discretion. Dissenting opinions are accepted without ad hominem attacks or insults. Personal responses to any commentary or questions will be kept to a bare minimum due to time constraints.“[Americans/Canadians] confuse the dreary recitation of politically correct gibberish with sensitivity that they think they have arrived at through their own value-clarification.” –Tomislav Sunic”
Even US government run health programs do not eat 30% off the top. Just because your team wrecked the government, does not mean good efficient systems cannot be put in place here.
Or do you think Americans are not up to the task of doing what the other industrialized nations can do? You think that little of Americans?
“Even US government run health programs do not eat 30% off the top.”
Finally, we agree on something. It’s more like 60%.
Well, it you use incorrect information – or no real information at all and just default to jingoism, yer bound to come to false conclusions…
Pro-lifers turned over the criminal evidence to pro-abortion Kansas AG SixSixSix and pro-abortion Sedgwick County DA Foulston from their undercover sting in Tiller’s criminal late-term abortion mill, where abortionist quacks continue to flagrantly violate state laws. A healthy, pregnant pro-life volunteer carrying a healthy, viable baby posed as a candidate for abortion and exposed several violations of state laws by Tiller’s employees, some in a recorded phone call, as she was scheduled for an illegal post-viable abortion. Criminal conduct exposed by the evidence now in possession of the AG and DA includes misrepresentation of Kansas laws to mothers, falsification of fetal gestational age in medical records, violation of requirement of Kansas law for second quack exam for post-viable abortions, and violation of Kansas informed consent law.
Meanwhile, amateur college girls with hidden cameras are publicly reporting the criminal evidence they have recently uncovered at various Planned Parenthood abortion mills.
Meanwhile, pro-abortion law enforcement and criminal justice and medical oversight agencies in Kansas continue wearing their blinders, ignoring criminal evidence, and neglecting their duty to protect our citizens from such criminal abuses, greedy exploitations, and unwarranted exposures to unsafe practices.
Mothers who have suffered from such abuses and exploitations now more fully exposed, such as infection, blood loss, emergency surgery, infertility, later premature births and infant mortality, covered-up statutory rape, and violations of informed consent, can get their records from the abortionist quack and sue him, before he is locked up or run out of Kansas and it becomes too late to cash in on malpractice settlements.
Is this a witch hunt? You bet it is. And when the criminal witches in Kansas abortion mills are locked up or run out of Kansas, the hunt will turn to those negligent and complicit members of the AG, DA, and BOHA offices, as well as police and other criminal investigative departments who have sold out their duties to the abortion lobby.
Please don’t call Dr. Tiller and/or his staff cruel names, Parkay.
If illegal abortions are occurring, they should be cited. And they should cease. We should all work arduously to avoid abortion. (That doesn’t change the fact that I had an abortion, however.)
Dr. Tiller is not a witch. He is a man with attributes and humanity just like everyone else. I met several of his staff in 2005; they too are human. They did not strike me as cruel; no one giddily touted abortive procedures; no one bragged of his or her cruelty and exploits.
I just can’t think like this. It hurts me too much. And I just can’t bear it. And I can’t afford, at this stage of my life, to bear it.
parkay,
Wow, it will be interesting to see if AG, DA, and BOHA offices can continue to turn a blind eye as they have done in the past.
I hope this goes somewhere finally, and puts Tiller and the others in jail.
Hud: I never heard of the site before either and not sure if you are supportive or dismisive of it, but the comments are genuine. At one time Health cards were mereley embossed with a number (I had one 20 years ago) but now they are photo ID and time sensitive. Lots of folks figured Americans, who can easily “pass” for Canadians, were ripping off the system as were newly landed immigrants and illegal refugees. I assume abuse is still occuring because the card’s better than Amercian Express. No limit!
Ooops: Hud I had a legal card. I managed a branch plant for a few years in Toronto, and my son married a Canadian, lives and works in Toronto and has a card as well. Over 700,000 Americans live there and are legally and fully covered by their insurance system.
Wichita is lucky to have Dr. Tiller. My only personal knowledge of Dr. Tiller is how he saved a life. Thank God he stands up to all the wackos of the world with his skills.
Wichita is lucky to have Dr. Tiller. My only personal knowledge of Dr. Tiller is how he saved a life. Thank God he stands up to all the wackos of the world with his skills.
Don’t worry, Tiller’s staff aren’t doing anything wrong. The antis have played this attempted ‘gotcha’ game a million times and always come up empty-handed. There is no evidence except the evidence they create in their own minds.
Whatever they have submitted has been thrown out before it got started in almost every case. Another example of pure harassment by the antis.
And another reason why Tiller should sue to recoup the costs of having to defend himself with all this nonsense.
Tiller also brings in the tourist dollars, while goons like Parkay and his criminal friends at Operation Rescue cost the taxpayer with their hate filled protests. Dr. Tiller should be given the key to the city for showing us all what a brave man he is to constantly stand up to terrorists and bullies.
That should say “bask in the gore of your faith.” More accurate.
“Wichita is lucky to have Dr. Tiller. My only personal knowledge of Dr. Tiller is how he saved a life. Thank God he stands up to all the wackos of the world with his skills.”
He saved a life?..gee that’s so nice, seeing how he takes hundreds if not thousands of lives each year.
He’s an butcher masquerading as a doctor.
Anybody who can perform a partial birth abortion and think that it’s perfectly fine has some very serious problems.
I remember when he ran a coupon for a 15% discount if a woman had an abortion by a certain date.
I remember him talking about giving women a “first class experience” when he expanded and redecorated his clinic after he collected the isurance money.
I remember him “celebrating” Roe v Wade by doing abortions all day for free.
Talk about someone who can look at a tragedy and think it’s a party.
” Anybody who can perform a partial birth abortion and think that it’s perfectly fine has some very serious problems.”
Mary you know you are one of the only people I know who I consider truly pro life.
You and I know that partial birth abortion is vanishingly rare and probably never done without a compelling reason. Before you feel free to use it as a rhetorical point, I ask you to consider.
There are women who could know they are going to give birth to a baby doomed to die on delivery or shortly thereafter who are capable of handling the experience.
I should imagine there are just as many or more who could not handle such an experience well at all. To carry to term KNOWING that they will deliver a dead or dying and likely malformed baby?
That would be a horrible emotional burden that ….how do you make someone go through that?
Some people think the same about nurses, or morticians.
Thank god he does do this for women who need them.
What’s wrong with a first class experience when getting an abortion? Would you prefer back alley class?
We do call Roe V Wade day a celebration… a celebration of rights for women to own their own lives, to not have to use desperate abortion services.
It isn’t celebrating abortion in of itself.
Antis complain that the good doctor does his job for the money. So when he has a day where he provides first trimester abortions for free they complain. Just can’t win with some folks.
SolDevVB posted January 15, 2009 at 3:30 pm | Permalink
and want to prove it, then give your friends, family, etc printouts of your posts here.
Hmmm, you think they follow your faith cosmos? Whiffed on that one scooter.
Hey, why don’t you pitch a tent in your back yard and go camping tonight. Bask in the glorry of your faith.
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No, you and they have “whiffed” it.
And it’s winter in the Northern hemisphere. If you don’t like cold weather, move to the tropics.
We do call Roe V Wade day a celebration…
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What do the party favors look like?
Waxman out to save us from climate change, which has been going on for million of years. Hey, we got to tax and regulate now before the world dies.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090115/ap_on_go_pr_wh/climate_hearing_2
Here’s something interesting!
It turns out King James (the guy who wrote the Bible) was gay!
Would fundamentalist Christians put King James to death? After all, his subjects joked “Elizabeth was King: now James is Queen.”
Anti-gay fundamentalists might not like to hear it but just listen to what King James wrote to George Villiers, 1st Duke of Buckingham: “I naturally so love your person, and adore all your other parts, which are more than ever one man had.” James also wrote Villiers that “I desire only to live in the world for your sake.”
Lest there be any doubts among fundamentalists about this being erotic as opposed to platonic affection, the far older James called angelic young Villiers “my sweet child and wife, and grant that ye may ever be a comfort to your dear dad and husband.” In return, Villiers, the subject of the nursery rhyme, Georgie Porgie, wrote James that “I cannot now think of giving thanks for friend, wife, or child; my thoughts are only bent on having my dear Dad and Master’s legs soon in my arms.” Villiers wrote as a man who “threatens you, that when he once gets hold of your bedpost again, never to quit it.” James wrote to Villiers that “whether you loved me now . . . better than at the time I shall never forget at Farnham, where the bed’s head could not be found between the master and his dog.”
Read the whole thing:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/19763
MH,
If everyone in history was as gay as you revisionists claim then few of us would be here.
But enough about MH’s fantasies, let’s talk about the Eagles liberal biases …
CALLING ALL RETAILERS.
Send Brownlees post on shrinkage control to all of your pals at the Chamber.
The Eagle wants you to stand down while being robbed blind.
BOYCOTT THE EAGLE FOR SIDING WITH THE SHOPLIFTERS IN THEIR SNOOTY LIBERAL WAY.
Advertise on talk radio. 99% of their listeners support your right to protect your private property from pilfering.
Rick Springfield sang Celebrate Life! Good tune.
P Mom sings Celebrate Death. Bad tune.
Hey Hank! LOL!
How much time did you waste copy/pasting from Morano’s list?
Morano disqualified his own list.
‘Roy Spencer: Inhofe 650 is bogus!‘
Marc Morano agrees that only experts in climate feedbacks can make judgments on climate
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2009/1/14/11568/7296
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings all!!
blessings on bush’s retirement!!
so mote it be!!
A day does not go by that nathan does not assault my family here.
Damn I wish he would get laid and quit flirting with me.
“BlueJay” notes –
“A day does not go by that nathan does not assault my family here.”
That is weird, “BlueJay,” isn’t it?
It’s not as if “The Boy” doesn’t have his own family issues to deal with or anything.
And you’d think that a Christian and U.S. Marine could understand that “climate change” does not mean “global cooling”.
The term has been used for 3 decades.
Nathaniel posted January 15, 2009 at 11:16 am
Talk about Global Warming! Anyone look outside today?
Oh wait, nevermind, it is “Climate Change” now.
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http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/fq/science.html
“2. What is the difference between climate change and global warming?
The term climate change is often used interchangeably with the term global warming, but according to the National Academy of Sciences, “the phrase ‘climate change’ is growing in preferred use to ‘global warming’ because it helps convey that there are [other] changes in addition to rising temperatures.”
BlueJ–
That’s the problem. Nathan has taken one of those virginity abstinence pledges all the fundy church types take.
And unlike the other 97 percent of the kids who take them, Nathan is serious about it.
BTW, you notice how “adults” like Ann Coulter or Rush Limbaugh never make a big thing about how THEY’RE foregoing sex because they’re not married.
Yeah . . . do as we say, not as we do . . .
Good point, Cosmos.
I thought I remember global warming models showing somewhat colder winters which were compensated for by much hotter summers.
That was a while back. Better models may have superseded that idea.
Where was it that Rush went on a vacation a few years back?
The Dominican Republic, and he came back with a bushel basket full of Viagra.
Hmmm . . . what could they possibly have in the Dominican Republic that we don’t have here?
I’m sure it wasn’t prostitutes or anything like that.
The term climate change is often used interchangeably with the term global warming, but according to the National Academy of Sciences, “the phrase ‘climate change’ is growing in preferred use to ‘global warming’ because it helps convey that there are [other] changes in addition to rising temperatures.”
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The dinosaurs and woolly mammoths must have been way ahead of their time going through climate change back in the day.
Cosmos counts herself out of the debate…
‘Roy Spencer: Inhofe 650 is bogus!‘
Marc Morano agrees that only experts in climate feedbacks can make judgments on climate
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Okay, who put a stop payment on my reality check?