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- Posted Jan. 13, 2009 at 6:01 a.m.
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What Sebelius didn’t mention is: BIG TAX INCREASE COMING FOR KANSAS TAXPAYERS.
Why is Dr. Schneider being prosecuted in the media without opportunity to defend his side. Most people who know him in the Haysville area say really good things about him. He was working in a difficult area of medical practice.
The irrefutable fact of evolution just got more irrefutable. No surprise creationists will deny the facts, because they deny what they don’t understand.
‘Reverse Evolution’ In Real Time Provides Key Insights Into Basic Mechanisms Of Evolution
ScienceDaily (Jan. 12, 2009) — Scientists have turned back the clock on the evolution in the fruit fly to provide key insights into the basic mechanisms of evolution.
In his book, Wonderful World, Stephen Jay Gould writes about an experiment of ‘replaying life’s tape’, wherein one could go back in time, let the tape of life play again and see if ‘the repetition looks at all like the original’. Evolutionary biology tells us that it wouldn’t look the same – the outcome of evolution is contingent on everything that came before. Now, scientists at the Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência (IGC) in Portugal, New York University and the University of California Irvine, provide the first quantitative genetic evidence of why this is so.
In this study, to be published online in the journal Nature Genetics, Henrique Teotónio and his colleagues recreated natural selection in real-time, in the laboratory (rather than based on inferences from fossil records or from comparing existing natural populations) and provide the first quantitative evidence for natural selection on so-called standing genetic variation – a process long thought to be operating in natural populations that reproduce sexually but which, until now, had never been demonstrated.
More real science, not creationist whining at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090111163023.htm
I am considering forming an “Exploratory Committee” to become a Candidate for the 2010 Governor Seat. See why and what I offer at, http://www.MiamiCountyOpinion.com under “Past Web-pages” and “USD Power”. Herbert West 3rd {D}.
“HerbertWestIII” –
Unlike you, I am not now nor have I ever been a candidate for governor of Kansas.
“Why is Dr. Schneider being prosecuted in the media without opportunity to defend his side. Most people who know him in the Haysville area say really good things about him. He was working in a difficult area of medical practice.”
When a doctor’s practice causes over 50 deaths due to accidental overdose, something’s really wrong. Doctors are responsible for the type and amount of medications they precribe. There is no excuse for such a thing to happen.
The funniest video of the day –
http://www.236.com/video/
“…the whole thing just falls apart.”
But this one’s pretty good –
http://www.236.com/video/2009/watch_236_ultimate_george_bush_11062.php
Loved the videos…what a great way to start the day with a good laugh! Thanks MH!
Here we go again. A scandal a minute.
“WASHINGTON – Secretary of State appointee Hillary Rodham Clinton intervened at least six times in government issues directly affecting companies and others that later contributed to her husband’s foundation
The overlap of names on former President Bill Clinton’s foundation donor list and business interests whose issues she championed raises new questions about potential ethics conflicts between her official actions and her husband’s fundraising.”
cosmos,
while I understand you limited ability to understand logic and reason… go fetch b itch
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-112-4/#comment-502409
ps, here is the r missing in my last post. 3 seconds to figure out where it belongs, otherwise, stuff it up your ignorant a$$
Three….two….
“britch?”
you nailed it MH
The offer still stands MH. You have the addy
“The Commerce Department reported Tuesday that the trade deficit narrowed to $40.4 billion in November, a 28.7 percent decline from October’s deficit of $56.7 billion. The bigger-than-expected decrease left the deficit at its lowest level since November 2003.”
That’s weird. Usually they are spot on.
“Hamas on Monday raided some 100 aid trucks that Israel had allowed into Gaza, stole their contents and sold them to the highest bidders.”
That’s weird. Usually they are the good guys.
Sol,
I tried to send you an email on your throw away address. Can you post another one. I have a question for you.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted January 13, 2009 at 8:22 am | Permalink
The funniest video of the day –
http://www.236.com/video/
“…the whole thing just falls apart.”
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Monkeyhawk
Posted January 13, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink
But this one’s pretty good –
http://www.236.com/video/2009/watch_236_ultimate_george_bush_11062.php
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Brought to you by the left wing fringe wakos at the huff. I bet you believe those are really from the fifties. Been drinking koolaide lately monkey?
ER and mortality stats
* In 2000, 43 percent of those who ended up in hospital emergency rooms from drug overdoses-nearly a half million people-were there because of misusing prescription drugs.
* In seven cities in 2000 (Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Seattle, and Washington, DC) 626 people died from overdose of painkillers and tranquilizers. By 2001, such deaths had increased in Miami and Chicago by 20 percent.
* From 1998 to 2000, the number of people entering an emergency room because of misusing hydrocodone (Vicodin) rose 48 percent, oxycodone (OxyContin) 108 percent, and methadone 63 percent. The rates are intensifying: from mid-2000 to mid-2001, oxycodone went up in emergency room visits 44 percent.
http://ncadi.samhsa.gov/govpubs/prevalert/v6/4.aspx
SolDevVB@hotmail.com
SolDevVB,
I refused to answer your irrelevant questions, because answering would have forced you to reveal the horrible, secret flaws in Dr. Hansen’s code. And those horrible flaws would have completely destroyed the entire theory of AGW science.
In short, I allowed you to falsely attack me, to protect Dr. Hansen, and the AGW theory. /HUGE sarcasm OFF
SolDevVB, you’re the one who doesn’t understand logic and reason. You’re 100% clueless about climate science, and scientific methodology.
SolDevVB looks at a graph that has mostly rising data points except for the last point, and he stupidly insists that ALL of the data is falling.
Cosmos arm flailing is destroyed by 8 years of cooling. She is too ignorant to understand a down trend.
Cosmos, I changed three words in the above. Please respond with those changes.
Why is Hansen too afraid to release his original source code.
First Al Gore, then the IPCC and now Hansen. Where ever will cosmos run next?
This seems to have been overlooked… due to all of the fighting over AGW, and Hamas/Israel… Is there some mis-direction??
“Vote on SCHIP Reauthorization Expected This Week!
Congressional leaders are scheduling a vote on renewing the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) this week. Unless Congress acts, federal funding for the program expires March 31, 2009.
Please call your Representative and Senators TODAY to urge them to support a strong SCHIP reauthorization. Please encourage your Members of Congress to support a bill that:
Lasts at least 4 years to give our states the ability to keep moving forward on their successful efforts to cover uninsured children; and,
Eliminates the five-year waiting period imposed on legally documented immigrant children.
SCHIP provides health insurance for children in families that earn too much to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to afford private insurance coverage. About 6 million children are now enrolled. Unfortunately, there are still over 9 million children uninsured in America.
Please CALL today to give our children the health coverage that they need.”
Link to the above:
http://act.ucc.org/site/MessageViewer/
There is a temporary problem with access to the above link. Webmaster says it should be available soon. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Two airmen were driving across country on leave. They come to a Marine Corps base and decide to visit. They approach the gate and the Marine Guard walks up to the driver’s window, and taps on it with his nightstick. The driver rolls down the window, and the Marine smacks him in the head with the stick.
The driver says, Why’d you do that?
The Marine says, You’re on a United States Marine Corps Base, son. When I come up to your car, you’ll have your ID card ready.
Driver says, I’m sorry, We’re in the Air Force, and we didn’t know.
The Marine examines the I.D. card and gives it back to the driver.
The Marine walks around to the passenger side and taps on the window. The passenger rolls his window down, and the Marine smacks him with the nightstick.
The passenger says, What’d you do that for?
The Marine says, Just making your wishes come true.
The passenger says, Huh?
The Marine says, I know that as soon as you pull away you’re gonna say, ‘I wish that Jarhead would’ve tried that sheeet with me!’
An alternative to the above link, which is down at the present time….
http://www.ucc.org/keeping-you-eposted/
Interestinger and interestinger
U.S. mortgage meltdown linked to 2005 bankruptcy law
By DAN MARGOLIES
The Kansas City Star
There’s no shortage of blame for the mortgage crisis that drove the economy into the ditch.
But here’s a fresh culprit: the 2005 bankruptcy reform act, which was strongly pushed by the credit card industry.
So say three researchers at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, who argue that the legislation shifted risk from credit card lenders to mortgage lenders, helping trigger the surge in home foreclosures.
http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/976039.html
AmWay, I’m sure marines might find some humor in that… I personally think it sucks… Of course, I have a lot of family members who served many years in the Air Force. That might make a difference…
Chas, the littliest things bother you, don’t they?
I’ll bet when you get up in the morning you have a scowl on your face and wrinkles on your forehead.
In the great new American ‘post racial era’ the NAACP desperately attempts to remain relevent.
http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=9655036&nav=menu33_2
Good luck.
# 25 is my favorite rule.
“Unfortunately, there are still over 9 million children uninsured in America.”
That’s their parents responsibility. Not mine.
Yep, BlueJay is the perfect example for why we have a problem in this country.
People like him sit around complaining about how evil people like us are, how he is at war with us, how much he doesn’t like us, yet he holds his hand out begging for the government to take what we earn to provide for his child.
A child that he is too proud to work for the man for so instead he does who knows what and can’t provide for his son.
SolDevVB posted January 13, 2009 at 10:06 am
Cosmos arm flailing is destroyed by 8 years of cooling. She is too ignorant to understand a down trend.
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SolDevVB, are your friends, family, co-workers, employer, etc all proud of the way you refute(sic) the AGW theory on the WE Blog?
Do you brag to them about your posts?
Do they all agree with you that the AGW theory has been “destroyed(sic) by 8 years of cooling”?
‘Stupid is as stupid does‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/12/31/stupid-is-as-stupid-does/
Do they all agree with you that the GISS output is invalid, despite it being in close agreement with other data sets?
‘Global Temperature from GISS, NCDC, HadCRU
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/giss-ncdc-hadcru/
(And those data sets are also similar to the satellite data.)
Go ahead SolDevVB. . . ask all of them if they agree with you.
And please continue to prove that you cannot refute the AGW theory, by continuing to make your lame attacks on Al Gore, IPCC and Dr. Hansen.
Cosmos,
Please continue to prove that you can’t refute the many scientists who all agree that there is not any catastrophic AGW as told by the AGW chiken littles.
All you can do is make cheap Ad Hom attacks on them or those of us who share the information from them.
cosmo, How long until the coasts are flooded?
I am glad that the gov and the judicial authorities have finally convinced everyone that, its everybody elses fault. If Dr. Schneider was prescribing meds and people overdosed, their fault not his. No one seems responsible for themselves anymore, its mcdonalds fault everyone is fat. Give me a break, if you can’t take responsibility for yourself for your own actions……even if it causes death, then your rose colored glasses are very thick. To many whiners out there. I’m personally sick of hereing “its not my fault”!
cos,
What is the ideal temp for the earth?
GMC70,
Lunch sounds like a great idea.
Nathaniel,
Please continue to prove that you cannot find a single credible scientist to refute the AGW consensus.
All you can do is make cheap ad hominem attacks on the credible scientists, and those of us who share the information from them.
SolDevVB posted January 13, 2009 at 11:07 am
What is the ideal temp for the earth?
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The ideal temperature, climate, and sea level for humans are the ones that humans have adapted to during our civilization — NOT the climate and sea levels if temperatures continue rising.
SolDevVB, have you asked your friends, family, co-workers, employer, etc if they agree with your AGW denial posts?
“…and those of us who share the information from them.”
And cosmo takes it on faith that it all true.
Praise be.
Hillary’s eye bags are huge.
“Please CALL today to give our children the health coverage that they need.”
Chas we are living in a state that has had to cut education dollars and is deeply in debt and you want us to call them and tell them to insure kids whose fathers ‘refuse to work for the man’.
Education for all kids – health care for mens’ kids who won’t get up and get a job to pay for their own. I choose education.
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fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:24 am | Permalink
Hillary’s eye bags are huge.
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Have you seen her thighs?
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HLP
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:29 am | Permalink
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fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:24 am | Permalink
Hillary’s eye bags are huge.
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Have you seen her thighs?
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“Her Thighness”
Well, Senator Hillary Clinton is the next US Secretary of State. The above posters will remain ugly, petty, insulting little men who are not to be taken seriously.
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DavidB
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:35 am | Permalink
Well, Senator Hillary Clinton is the next US Secretary of State. The above posters will remain ugly, petty, insulting little men who are not to be taken seriously.
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Lighten up!
…life is but a dream – sha-boom sha-boom…
Chas,
Perhaps you should invite BlueJay to your church where your congregation could then support his son instead of calling for everyone else to do so.
fleettwood posted January 13, 2009 at 11:23 am
“…and those of us who share the information from them.”
And cosmo takes it on faith that it all true.
Praise be.
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fleettwood gets non-scientific nonsense from the AGW deniers.
And fleettwood takes it on faith that it all true.
Praise be!
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Regular
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:31 am | Permalink
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HLP
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:29 am | Permalink
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fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:24 am | Permalink
Hillary’s eye bags are huge.
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Have you seen her thighs?
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“Her Thighness”
Ah, the substantive CONservative commentary we’ve come to expect on WE Blog.
How long will it take ’til someone calls Sasha Obama “the White House Dog?”
You’re all class acts, CONs.
Unfortunately the class is the 4th grade.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:40 am | Permalink
How long will it take ’til someone calls Sasha Obama “the White House Dog?”
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You appear to be the first and the only one MH.
Congratulations…
The haters of carbon taxes and Al Gore are really gonna enjoy the next 4 years! /sarcasm OFF
‘Obama energy pick says will fight global warming‘
http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKN1352116320090113
“Climate change is a growing and pressing problem. It is now clear that if we continue on our current path, we run the risk of dramatic, disruptive changes to our climate in the lifetimes of our children and grandchildren,” Chu said at his confirmation hearing before the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee.”
“And fleettwood takes it on faith that it all true.”
But, I’m not the one passing along information I am not qualified to pass. You are the faithful passer of scientific information you do not understand.
It’s called faith. Embrace it.
Sensitivity lessons from DavidB!
What next?
Moral guidance from Maggotpunk?
Positive thinking from BlueJay?
Sex Education from ksfarmgrrl?
Religious tolerance lessons from MonkeyHawk?
Help me here! I’m laughing too hard to go on!
Speaking of thighs, have you seen the way Michelle fills out a designer dress?
fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:43 am | Permalink
“And fleettwood takes it on faith that it all true.”
But, I’m not the one passing along information I am not qualified to pass. You are the faithful passer of scientific information you do not understand.
It’s called faith. Embrace it
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I had chili last night.
Wondering if my flatulence today will be subject to carbon taxes?
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HLP
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink
Speaking of thighs, have you seen the way Michelle fills out a designer dress?
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Damn’t Hank!
Now, I’m hungry for some chicken…
—off to Popeye’s…
“Speaking of thighs, have you seen the way Michelle fills out a designer dress?”
Yummy. I’d hit it. 10 beers.
MonkeyHawk,
And I paraphrse this from “The Patriot” with some modifications:
If the conduct of you and your fellow liberals is any measure of a gentlemen, then I will take what you say about us as a compliment.
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Chas
Posted January 13, 2009 at 10:06 am | Permalink
This seems to have been overlooked… due to all of the fighting over AGW, and Hamas/Israel… Is there some mis-direction??
“Vote on SCHIP Reauthorization Expected This Week!
Congressional leaders are scheduling a vote on renewing the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) this week. Unless Congress acts, federal funding for the program expires March 31, 2009.
Please call your Representative and Senators TODAY to urge them to support a strong SCHIP reauthorization. Please encourage your Members of Congress to support a bill that:
Lasts at least 4 years to give our states the ability to keep moving forward on their successful efforts to cover uninsured children; and,
Eliminates the five-year waiting period imposed on legally documented immigrant children.
SCHIP provides health insurance for children in families that earn too much to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to afford private insurance coverage. About 6 million children are now enrolled. Unfortunately, there are still over 9 million children uninsured in America.
Please CALL today to give our children the health coverage that they need.”
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Thanks chas, I’ll call today and encourage them NOT to.
Looks like the CONS have no respect for the children of the working poor in America… How absolutely unamerican of them…
“Nathaniel” preaches –
“…Perhaps you should invite BlueJay to your church….”
Good suggestion! Since inviting someone to your church is what a real Christian would do, right?
Will they let me into the sanctuary if I’m not carrying a gun?
“Looks like the CONS have no respect for the children of the working poor in America…”
No. We don’t have respect for their parents.
Chas,
Looks like the liberals have no idea of how to give away their own money, so they want to make everyone else do it.
So, fleetie, you have no respect for working people that dont make enough money??
That is REAL unamerican of you….
Chas,
There is a difference between “respect” and “charity”
I respect working people. That doesn’t mean that I think we should take money from other people to support them though.
Chas
Posted January 13, 2009 at 11:53 am | Permalink
Looks like the CONS have no respect for the children of the working poor in America… How absolutely unamerican of them…
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Since you are selling the SCHIP program for the poor Chas, what is the maximum income level to qualify for the program, for a family of 4? (That means a mom & dad & 2 kids)
(I want to see how Chas defines P O O R. When talking about tax rates, the definition is one dollar amount, when talking about free government handouts, that dollar number is a different amount. The definition of “P O O R” changes depending on the subject.)
“Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama’s pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for “global governance” and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
With Browner as global warming czar, we know what motivates them.
“fleettwood” struts –
“We don’t have respect for their parents.”
And it’s those kids’ own damned fault for picking the wrong parents, right?
“So, fleetie, you have no respect for working people that dont make enough money??”
No. I don’t respect people who have their hand out.
“And it’s those kids’ own damned fault for picking the wrong parents, right?”
It’s not the kids fault.
“fleettwood” perhaps has an epiphany –
“It’s not the kids fault.”
But you choose to punish them.
That’s not what Jesus had in mind when he said, “Suffer the little children….”
“Monkeyhawk
Posted January 13, 2009 at 12:11 pm | Permalink
That’s not what Jesus had in mind when he said, “Suffer the little children….””
I thought he meant to make them suffer.
Anybody with half a brain knows what children are covered by SCHIP… But, we will see numerous ReichWingers who want to be the usual idiots and bigots they are, and wish disese, and even death to children of poor working parents… parents who make too much income for Medicaid, but who cant afford health insurance for their children, and most likely not for themselves…
Sure blame it on the parents…. Why not?? in the eyes of the Reich Wing Facists, the kids are merely collateral damage anyway!!
“fleettwood” is probably heavily invested in the crutch industry.
Talk about some backwards assinine liberal thinking there…
Because we don’t support taking money from other people and redistributing it that is “punishment?”
MonkeyHawk,
How much of your own money have you voluntarily given to help these children?
Or are you like all the other liberals who think that charity is taking from other people and giving it away to make yourself feel better?
Mainline Pastor to preach at the Inaugural Prayer Service for Obama >>>>
http://www.disciplesworld.com/newsArticle.html?wsnID=14614
fleettwood posted January 13, 2009 at 11:43 am
“And fleettwood takes it on faith that it all true.”
But, I’m not the one passing along information I am not qualified to pass. You are the faithful passer of scientific information you do not understand.
It’s called faith. Embrace it.
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Okay. So publicly, fleettwood is “on the fence”, and saying, ‘AGW? Duuuhh. . . I don’t know’ ?
But Nathaniel does seem to have a public opinion — maybe something like?
‘Thou shall not criticize those of us who share the non-scientific nonsense from AGW deniers’
Nathaniel posted January 13, 2009 at 11:02 am
All you can do is make cheap Ad Hom attacks on them or those of us who share the information from them.
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Chas,
Do you think that will be enough to appease the WE blog militant gay lady?
Of course not.
The ideal temperature, climate, and sea level for humans are…
Thank you cosmos for proving you have no idea what nature’s ideal temperature is. Thank you for proving that you have no clue why the last 8 years have cooled. Thank you for proving your complete and utter ignorance of climate science.
Thank you for being the spastic chicken little of the blog, slathering it with your ignorance and blind faith.
Praise be, cosmos. Praise be.
“Nathaniel” asks –
“How much of your own money have you voluntarily given to help these children?”
Around 10% of my net. You?
I’ve heard from televangelists you’re not really tithing unless you give 10% of your gross income to the church.
It that how you operate?
“Or are you like all the other liberals who think that charity is taking from other people and giving it away to make yourself feel better?”
“All” the other liberals?
I can’t speak for them, boy.
You, though, must be able to justify Pat Robertson’s fleet of Learjets. Your “charity” dollars at work.
MonkeyHawk,
My money doesn’t go to Pat Robertson. It goes to help the local community.
Why is it that I don’t believe you give 10% of your money away?
Let alone to any church.
SolDevVB,
Thank you for being predictable, and posting lies about what I’ve posted, and ad hominems.
Are your friends, family, co-workers, employer, etc all proud of your confused, inaccurate, and ad hominem AGW denial posts?
Cosmos,
What does his associates opinions have to do with anything? Let alone how a “consensus” pushed by political means is science?
“Nathaniel” claims –
“My money doesn’t go to Pat Robertson. It goes to help the local community.”
And just how much is that, “Nathaniel?”
You evaded my original question in this diversionary tactic:
“Why is it that I don’t believe you give 10% of your money away?”
I dunno. Perhaps it’s because you’re a bitter, self-righteous, judgmental, lying prig and just naturally assume everyone else is.
Why is it I doubt you don’t tithe 10% of your gross income?
Same answer.
“Let alone to any church.
Well, ya got me there, boy.
I don’t give a lot to churches.
I generally choose not to donate to Jimmy Swaggart’s hooker habit, or Ted Haggard’s meth-and-boy-toy compulsion, or the Pope’s jewelry, or “ministries” that finance bombing women’s clinics and the shooting of medical personnel. I guess that’s because I’m not a “real Christian” like you, boy.
MonkeyHawk,
Was that an example of the so-called “class” you were talking about earlier?
LOL
MH growing that log in his eye larger and larger.
ARAB HAMASS is the TERRORISTS. You go Israel and kill them terrorists dead so the USA does not have another Sptember 11th. If HamASS grows they will do terrorism to us as they are doing to Israel.
““It’s not the kids fault.”
But you choose to punish them.”
Their parents are doing that. My kids are insured.
Researchers Link 2005 Bankruptcy “Reform” Act to Mortgage Melt-down
There’s no shortage of blame for the mortgage crisis that drove the economy into the ditch.
But here’s a fresh culprit: the 2005 bankruptcy reform act, which was strongly pushed by the credit card industry.
So say three researchers at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, who argue that the legislation shifted risk from credit card lenders to mortgage lenders, helping trigger the surge in home foreclosures.
Before Congress passed the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, households could erase their unsecured debts by filing for Chapter 7 liquidation. That freed up income that distressed homeowners could use to make mortgage payments.
The new law, however, forced better-off households seeking bankruptcy protection to file under Chapter 13. That chapter requires homeowners to continue paying their unsecured lenders.
In other words, say the Fed researchers, cash-strapped homeowners who might have saved their homes by filing Chapter 7 are now much more likely to face foreclosure.
“Is it just coincidence that the surge in subprime foreclosures that has rocked financial markets came right after the bankruptcy reform in 2005?” they asked. “Is that surge just about falling home prices, bad mortgage decisions and weak economic conditions?
http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/976039.html
The Bankruptcy “reform” Act was passed by Repukes like Tihart who line their pockets with credit card money . . .
“The Bankruptcy “reform” Act was passed by Repukes like Tihart who line their pockets with credit card money . . .”
Is that what democratunderground tells you to think?
cosmos,
Thank you again for proving your absolute ignorance about climate science.
Thank you for proving your blind faith in the absurdity of climate models (which have yet to once be accurate) and the lies of the ipcc and al gore.
Thank you, again, for proving your inablity to even have a rational thought.
And, last but not least, thank you for your comic relief.
Here is a chance to redeem yourself; what does hansen have to lose by releasing the original source code of his number fudging program?
Nathaniel posted January 13, 2009 at 12:45 pm
What does his associates opinions have to do with anything? Let alone how a “consensus” pushed by political means is science?
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Huh? Whose “associates”?
And the scientific AGW consensus was formed by science, not politicians. The theory was formed in the late 1800’s, and has rapidly grown stronger since the 1970’s.
Gee…
None of the “real Christians” is eager to come forth and proclaim they give 10% of their gross income to their theology.
Wonder why that is?
It’s not like we’re gonna be able to track down your tax returns or anything.
Maybe it’s a redeeming quality that “Nathaniel’s” and “Regular’s” overt pious pride can’t let them muster up a lie to claim they give as much as they should to “Caesar” or to “God.”
Nope. They got pushed into the corner of their self-righteousness and started spewing out personal insults, laughing out loud, no less.
But they’re convinced Jesus saved them.
God wonders what for.
The Bankruptcy “reform” Act was passed by Repukes like Tihart who line their pockets with credit card money . . . courtesy of the Capn…
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Failed financial planning isn’t the fault of bankruptcy.
Huh? Whose “associates”?
And the scientific AGW consensus was formed by science, not politicians. The theory was formed in the late 1800’s, and has rapidly grown stronger since the 1970’s.
Cosmos can’t even seem to keep her ad-hom’s straight. She also seems to forget that the current arm flailing is only slightly louder than the “Looming Ice Age” bleating of the 70’s. Lead by non other than Hansen. Wonder what algore was up to in the early 70’s? Too bad he missed out on those dollars. He sure made up for it with the current scam though.
Hey cosmos, how much has algore made off your religion? How much has hansen made? How much have you made?
Monkeyhawk
Posted January 13, 2009 at 1:06 pm | Permalink
Gee…
None of the “real Christians” is eager to come forth and proclaim they give 10% of their gross income to their theology.
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Most likely because it’s none of your business.
Some faiths like the Mormons are extremely strict on tithing. They have counselors that have prepared data sheets on the totality of your income and the tithe amount is drawn directly from your bank account.
My church gives an end of year tithe contribution for tax purposes and to check up to see how you’re doing in tithing.
8 years of cooling. Man that has to pi$s you off cosmos. That becomes apparent by the fact that you can’t admit it and that you try to refute it by posting links to graphs that obscure the last 8 years.
Why can’t you admit, cosmos, the very simple fact that the last 8 years have provided lower temperatures? Did algore tell you that it was blasphemy to admit cooling, at any cost?
“Wonder why that is?”
Why would they want to share that info with a jerk?
I donate to St. Jude’s, the USO and Red Cross. And you?
I donate to St. Jude’s, the USO and Red Cross. And you?
SolDevVB,
Thank you for (predictably) posting more stupid ad hominems. Your friends, family, co-workers, employer, etc will yet again be very impressed by your refuting(sic) of the AGW theory.
Why should anyone release old code that has not been updated?
The Republic Party’s 2005 bankruptcy “reform” act is simply more evidence of GOP incompetence.
Democrats tried to warn the last year of Republican dominance of all branches of government.
Here’s what happened:
http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/976039.html
“Thank you for (predictably) posting more stupid ad hominems. Your friends, family, co-workers, employer, etc will yet again be very impressed by your refuting(sic) of the AGW theory.”
Methinks cosmo is really Hal9000 and he’s starting to sing “Daisy Daisy Give me Your Answer Do”.
Monkeyhawk
Posted January 13, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Permalink
The Republic Party’s 2005 bankruptcy “reform” act is simply more evidence of GOP incompetence.
Democrats tried to warn the last year of Republican dominance of all branches of government.
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These days of people living beyond their means is too frequent.
A general rule of thumb is never purchase a house if the mortgage payment will be more than 25 percent of your income after your other expenses.
If your mortgage is $1000/month and your expenses other than the mortgage is 2500 a month, you darn well better have about 5500 or more in net income so you won’t get in financial trouble. Not gross, I said net income.
Lack of financial planning is the major pitfall to most home buyers. They just don’t add up the numbers and spend every last nickle they have, forgetting about things like food and other expenses.
Why should anyone release old code that has not been updated?
Thank you cosmos, for again proving you have absolutely no understanding of custom software.
When hansen’s code was demanded, he refused to release the code he currently uses to fudge his numbers.
Thank you for proving you absolute ignorance of your own faith.
“The new law, however, forced better-off households seeking bankruptcy protection to file under Chapter 13. That chapter requires homeowners to continue paying their unsecured lenders.
In other words, say the Fed researchers, cash-strapped homeowners who might have saved their homes by filing Chapter 7 are now much more likely to face foreclosure.”
BOO HOO
Capn: Critics such as yourself have often derided the Act as being mean-spirited and hard on the poor, but they overlook the most important effect that the bill was intended to to have, and that is to reduce interest rates. One consideration for lenders to take in to account in compiling data to determine an interest rate is the compensation for the risk of default. As most financially minded people know, the higher assumption there is of risk, the higher the interest rate. This assumes of course that a creditor cannot, in the event of default, collect the debt owed him quickly, fully, and with little expense.
As you copied from the article referenced in your posting: “Before Congress passed the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, households could erase their unsecured debts by filing for Chapter 7 liquidation. That freed up income that distressed homeowners could use to make mortgage payments.
The new law, however, forced better-off households seeking bankruptcy protection to file under Chapter 13. That chapter requires homeowners to continue paying their unsecured lenders.”
By making bankruptcy less attractive, those that could really afford to pay their debts are now forced to do just that and in so doing, reduce risk to the lender and reduce interest rates to other borrowers.
Fed researchers said that “cash-strapped homeowners who might have saved their homes by filing Chapter 7 are now much more likely to face foreclosure.”
The risk is still reduced for lenders due to the fact that borrowing guidelines are stricter now that in the past and those “cash-strapped homeowners” were most likely in over their head from the beginning and losing their home was imminent.
If one has had the experience of purchasing a home back in the Carter years (a Democratic Party President) then you will remember the “great deal” we received on our interest rates. It was common to believe that we were getting a deal when we only had to pay 15-17% interest on our home loans.
Thank God for the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005. The home loan that I opened last year is costing me less than 6%. It affords me more of a home, lower monthly payments, and more disposable income to invest or one in a while, I can treat my family to a night out.
Blame for the “mortgage crisis” can be placed not on the Bankruptcy Act of 2005, it can be more squarely placed on the head of people that over-extended their budget and financially hanged themselves.
Dear MonkeyHawk,
I have no desire to give 10% of my income to the church. My wife doesn’t want to decrease our contributions either.
Maggie,
The fruit flies are still fruit flies. If one of them had turned into an iguana or an oak tree then you might have something to talk about.
SolDevVB,
Go ahead and hate Dr. Hansen, the climate scientists worldwide, Al Gore, and others 24/7 if it makes you happy.
But the facts are, the AGW theory is based on sound science, and the Earth is warming as predicted. Earth will continue to warm, because of the physics.
The U.S. and other nations will take action to reduce AGW.
And you, SolDevVB, cannot change any of that.
Now. . . try very hard to forget all of the above facts, and continue posting your very ineffective, hate-filled rants.
Maggie,
The fruit flies are still fruit flies.
- – - – - -
And. . . they’re getting pi$$ed!
brian_nuevo,
Perhaps you were joking when when you made your 12:14pm post about the meaning of “Suffer the little children…”
If you were serious, the phrase means “Allow the little children…”
“fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
“The new law, however, forced better-off households seeking bankruptcy protection to file under Chapter 13. That chapter requires homeowners to continue paying their unsecured lenders.
In other words, say the Fed researchers, cash-strapped homeowners who might have saved their homes by filing Chapter 7 are now much more likely to face foreclosure.”
BOO HOO”
grand example of compassionate conservativism
“janeeyre
Posted January 13, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink
brian_nuevo,
Perhaps you were joking when when you made your 12:14pm post about the meaning of “Suffer the little children…”
If you were serious, the phrase means “Allow the little children…””
I was being facetious, but thanks for taking the time to respond.
But the facts are, the AGW theory is based on sound science,
LMFAO – yeah, just don’t ask to see the code behind their science[sic] – is hansen’s code peer reviewed???
and the Earth is warming as predicted. Earth will continue to warm, because of the physics.
LMFAO – and the last 8 years of cooling???
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Huuuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Can you post a link to a proven prediction of a climate model?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Huuuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now. . . try very hard to forget all of the above facts,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAA
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
Like 8 years of cooling???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAA
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
Chas
Posted January 13, 2009 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
Anybody with half a brain knows what children are covered by SCHIP…
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Ok Chas. Prove you have half a brain.
What children are covered by SCHIP? (You’ve said this program should be renewed, you should know.)
“Regular” and “fleettwood” would rather fix the blame than fix the problem.
Yeah, I know. “Caveat emptor” and all that stuff.
You have to be culturally tone deaf not to have heard all the messages from the six years of Republic Party domination of government (2001-2007) that we libs argued would result in, when the cows came home, they’d come home to roost.*
*Okay, that’s just a silly mixed metaphor joke. Sorry.
Used to be, if someone agreed to lend you money you had a reasonable expectation that person expected you to pay it back. Phil Gramm’s deregulation bills in the 90s and 00s guaranteed that the guy who gives you the loan didn’t care a rat’s ass about your ability to pay it off.
Indeed, just about all of business was borrowing from the future to pay off today. But the higher up the pecking order, the more qualified those people were to know better. And the evidence is pretty good they didn’t give a damn. Bernie Madoff’s lawyer spoke at a press conference yesterday and claimed, under the financial regulations as administered by George WMD Bush, a Ponzi scheme is NOT illegal.
Barack Obama is inheriting a swamp Shub not only failed to drain but also stocked with alligators.**
** More silly mixed metaphors. Sorry, but I’m on a roll.
You CONs remind me of Steve Martin’s line –
“I believe the Republicans will one day make America what it once was… a bleak, desolate, arctic wilderness.”
“Regular
Posted January 13, 2009 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
Lack of financial planning is the major pitfall to most home buyers. They just don’t add up the numbers and spend every last nickle they have, forgetting about things like food and other expenses.”
This brings to mind a basic diffence between most Republicans and most Democrats: generally, from a financial standpoint, Republicans think each individual should be responsible for the outcomes of their own actions (or lack of actions) whereas most Democrats think the government should protect or help prevent individuals from hurting themselves (financially).
What I have always found strange (and part of the reason I am a staunch independent) is that from a social standpoint the roles are reversed – Democrats generally are in favor of fewer regulations, more individual freedom, and less government intervention, and Republicans are generally in favor of more government control and protections.
“grand example of compassionate conservativism”
You people are grand examples of “responsibility”?
We don’t need no stinkin’ responsibility!
Let’s buy three big screen TVs on a credit card to put in the house we can’t afford so we can declare bankruptcy on the credit card company so we can get the TVs for free while we keep the house we can’t afford.
(and part of the reason I am a staunch independent)
A staunch idiot is more like it.
MH:
The word “tithe” is defined as the “tenth part.” Typically, a tenth part of all that one has or earns. The first recorded event of tithing was when Abraham gave tihe to Melchizedek king of Salem. According to the Holy Bible, the tithe (10%)is the minimum one should be giving to their minister. But, that is according to “Old Covenant” (GENESIS 14:14-20). According to the actions of the saints in the “New Testament” they sold their posessions and gave it all; Acts 4:32-37.
“…guaranteed that the guy who gives you the loan didn’t care a rat’s ass about your ability to pay it off.”
That would be your job, not the guy who gave you the loan.
“fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:07 pm | Permalink
(and part of the reason I am a staunch independent)
A staunch idiot is more like it.”
Oh, nice one. You so crazy!
“fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:05 pm | Permalink
“grand example of compassionate conservativism”
You people are grand examples of “responsibility”?”
‘You people’? Is it because I am black? You got something against blacks?
“You people’? Is it because I am black? You got something against blacks?”
Are you black?
SolDevVB posted January 13, 2009 at 1:59 pm
But the facts are, the AGW theory is based on sound science,
LMFAO – yeah, just don’t ask to see the code behind their science[sic] – is hansen’s code peer reviewed???
and the Earth is warming as predicted. Earth will continue to warm, because of the physics.
LMFAO – and the last 8 years of cooling???
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Huuuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Can you post a link to a proven prediction of a climate model?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Huuuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now. . . try very hard to forget all of the above facts,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAA
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
Like 8 years of cooling???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAA
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
——————-
SolDevVB,
Well done!!! That’s a very effective, and convincing way to refute the science of the AGW theory. /sarcasm OFF
Are you going to email it to Dr. Hansen, and all of the scientists listed in the IPCC reports?
It’s a shame that your posts here will have ZERO affect on the world.
You should make printouts, and give copies to everyone you know. I’m sure that they will “enjoy” reading them — now, and in the future.
Pull up, cosmo, pull up!!
cosmos,
Thank you for proving you have no scientific evidence to refute any of the points made in my posts.
Your religion is weak.
Shocking cold wave drops temps to 40 below zero
Praise be
praise be…
It is during these cold times when we might wonder “where is our AGW god? Has He abandoned me?”
But, we must stay strong in our faith.
Praise be.
“But the facts are, the AGW theory is based on sound science”
Isn’t that statement an oxymoron? Consider what you wrote; “facts” “theory” “sound science” all in one partial sentence. What is it? A theory is just what is; a theory not a fact. Theoretically speaking; one may consider that due to the regularity of your posts regarding AGW, that you are close-minded, possess very little social skills, and have a limited range of thought.
That is a theory that I have surmised based on the observation of your posting context here on the “Open Thread” and and because it is a theory it may or may not be fact.
SolDevVB posted January 13, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Thank you for proving you have no scientific evidence to refute any of the points made in my posts.
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No. . . thank YOU SolDevVB, for repeatedly proving that you cannot understand climate science.
All that poor SolDevVB can do is post falsehoods, and rant about the scientists that he hates.
Praise be.
CJM,
Awwwwww. . . is it just too complicated for you?
The following sentence is a fact. The AGW theory is based on sound science.
Chas
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
For all those who said that no towns could get their electricity from wind power —- You all better tell the town of Jetmore, KS, that they must be liars…. They are just about ready to throw the switch, and power all of the town’s electricity from wind turbines….
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“All of the town’s electricty from wind turbines..”
100% Chas? Really?
Cosmos you need help. You should seek it immediately. If you cannot find help then email one of your liberal friends. They can probably send you to someone to exorcise this demon that has overtaken you.
Do it quickly. Daily I see more damage.
cosmos_originally
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:47 pm | Permalink
CJM,
Awwwwww. . . is it just too complicated for you?
————————————————————————————————– Not too complicated and I know the difference between theory and fact.
You really haven’t shown anybody what you know other than your ability to research, copy, and paste. Watch your head, the sky is falling.
Awwww, cosmos has no science[sic] today to refute anything that has been posted today. Better luck tomorrow.
“The following sentence is a fact. The AGW theory is based on sound science.”
The following sentence is a fact. Jesus is the Son ‘O God. It is based on sound faith.
brian_nuevo
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:05 pm | Permalink
This brings to mind a basic diffence between most Republicans and most Democrats: generally, from a financial standpoint, Republicans think each individual should be responsible for the outcomes of their own actions (or lack of actions)
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Yeah, responsibility and adult behavior, ain’t it a bioch?
“fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:19 pm | Permalink
“You people’? Is it because I am black? You got something against blacks?”
Are you black?”
Does it matter?
“Regular
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:58 pm | Permalink
Yeah, responsibility and adult behavior, ain’t it a bioch?”
probably for some it is
#
brian_nuevo
Posted January 13, 2009 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
“Regular
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:58 pm | Permalink
Yeah, responsibility and adult behavior, ain’t it a bioch?”
probably for some it is
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Good we agree on something.
I don’t want to bail out losers by paying more for interest rates and high bank fees just because people cannot control their impulse buying.
brian_nuevo
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:05 pm | Permalink
This brings to mind a basic diffence between most Republicans and most Democrats: generally, from a financial standpoint, Republicans think each individual should be responsible for the outcomes of their own actions (or lack of actions)
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Who else should be responsible for YOUR actions or lack of actions?
Do you have ANY responsibility for yourself?
“Does it matter?”
No. Black or White, you are an idiot.
And a you people.
Did you know we could have 100% of our electricity generated by wind?
(Ask Chas how.)
According to the Clergy Letter Project, the energy crisis could be solved if we generated 100% of our electricity from wind power.
“Regular
Good we agree on something.
I don’t want to bail out losers by paying more for interest rates and high bank fees just because people cannot control their impulse buying.”
I do agree with that.
I also do not want to bail out banks because of their poor risk management practices or manufactures because of their failure to diversify the product portfolio and bad decisions when predicting future demand curves.
Can’t wait to see if I’m eligible for SCHIP.
I could save a lot of money by dropping health insurance for my kids, and letting the Government pay for it.
Chas, did you find your half brain yet?
“fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 3:03 pm | Permalink
“Does it matter?”
No. Black or White, you are an idiot.
And a you people.”
I suspect race is a big deal to you, someone who throws out comments like
“fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:59 pm | Permalink
..Sez the Proud Black Man”
Racist.
#
brian_nuevo
Posted January 13, 2009 at 3:06 pm | Permalink
“Regular
Good we agree on something.
I don’t want to bail out losers by paying more for interest rates and high bank fees just because people cannot control their impulse buying.”
I do agree with that.
I also do not want to bail out banks because of their poor risk management practices or manufactures because of their failure to diversify the product portfolio and bad decisions when predicting future demand curves.
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Then we get back to the agenda pushed by the Democratic party. That is, make home loans available to high risk people who have no business in owning a home than cannot possibly afford.
Defaulting in a home loans times millions is what got us into this mess in the first place (along with unscrupulous banking practices.)
than = they (coffee withdrawal)
SolDevVB,
Don’t worry that you cannot understand the very obvious basics of climate, like ENSO causes short-term temperature changes, while AGW is causing long-term warming.
You’re probably just blinded by your hatred of AGW scientists, and/or some other “problem(s)”.
“Racist.”
If racist means hater of idiots, I’m guilty.
And you are a liar and an idiot.
“Regular
Posted January 13, 2009 at 3:08 pm | Permalink
Defaulting in a home loans times millions is what got us into this mess in the first place (along with unscrupulous banking practices.)”
That is quite an oversimplification. Defaulted home loans were a contributing factor, but certainly not the factor. I do not even think they were a top 5 factor. Maybe top 10.
“fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 3:13 pm | Permalink
“Racist.”
If racist means hater of idiots, I’m guilty.
And you are a liar and an idiot.”
we have all seen the true you now.
Regular
Posted January 13, 2009 at 3:08 pm | Permalink
“Defaulting in a home loans times millions is what got us into this mess in the first place (along with unscrupulous banking practices.)”
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There are two major factors that promoted the mortgage crisis and they are based in human nature : greed and envy.
“Hardline demonstrators burn posters of U.S. President-elect Barack Obama, during a demonstration in support of the people of Gaza, in front of the Swiss Embassy in Tehran January 13, 2009″
That’s what I call Love From the Iranian People.
fleettwood
Posted January 13, 2009 at 3:25 pm | Permalink
“Hardline demonstrators burn posters of U.S. President-elect Barack Obama, during a demonstration in support of the people of Gaza, in front of the Swiss Embassy in Tehran January 13, 2009?
That’s what I call Love From the Iranian People.
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We should have blasted them back in 1979, oh wait, a Democratic peanut farmer was in office. They knew better than to push their luck with Mr. Reagan.
cosmos,
thank you for again proving you have no science to back your rants and theories.
Fark.com Headline:
“Midwest temperatures plummet to 37 below on news that Al Gore is full of shait”
WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama’s choice to run the Treasury Department and lead the economic rescue effort disclosed to senators Tuesday that he failed to pay $34,000 in taxes from 2001 to 2004, a last-minute complication in an otherwise smooth path to confirmation.
Transition officials discovered last fall that Geithner also had not paid the taxes in 2001 or 2002. He paid $25,970 in taxes and interest for those years several days before Obama announced his nomination, the transition official said.
Geithner also didn’t realize a housekeeper he paid in 2004 and 2005 did not have current employment documentation as an immigrant for the final three months she worked for him, the transition official said.
Sounds like he is really on the ball….
My advice to the dems., keep your powder dry until bush is out of office and can not grant pre-emptive pardons!
Play Video Barack Obama Video: Philadelphia Prepares For Obama’s Visit CBS 3 Philadelphia Play Video Barack Obama Video: Obama inauguration traffic planning 13 News, WVEC Hampton Roads Play Video Barack Obama Video: Obama granny to make inauguration Australia 7 News WASHINGTON – The incoming Obama administration should launch a criminal investigation of Bush administration officials to see whether they broke the law in the name of national security, a House Democratic report said Tuesday. President-elect Barack Obama has been more cautious on the issue and has not endorsed such a recommendation.
Along with the criminal probe, the report called for a Sept. 11-style commission with subpoena power, to gather facts and make recommendations on preventing misuse of power, according to the report by the Democratic staff of the House Judiciary Committee.
The report covers Bush administration policies that Democrats have protested for some time. Among them: interrogation of foreign detainees, warrantless wiretaps, retribution against critics, manipulation of intelligence and political dismissals of U.S. attorneys.
The White House was asked for comment on the report Tuesday, but did not immediately respond.
Geithner realized the error in November during the review process for his nomination and immediately corrected it, the official added. “All of his taxes have now been paid in full, and at no time was there any intention on Mr. Geithner’s part to avoid taxes,” the official said.
“Obama granny to make inauguration”
How about the half brother in the hut?
greed and envy.
And, the biggie, non-existent oversight.
“and at no time was there any intention on Mr. Geithner’s part to avoid taxes,””
YA RIGHT
Phantom
Posted January 13, 2009 at 4:09 pm | Permalink
greed and envy.
And, the biggie, non-existent oversight.
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Do you need a babysitter? I don’t. If one needs a babysitter, perhaps that one is not responsible enough to be buying a house. An attribute of a mature, responsible adult is the ability to be accountable for one’s self. Don’t need no stinkin’ oversight. I’m responsible for my own actions, not greedy or envious either.
“SolDevVB
Posted January 13, 2009 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
Geithner also didn’t realize a housekeeper he paid in 2004 and 2005 did not have current employment documentation as an immigrant for the final three months she worked for him, the transition official said.
Sounds like he is really on the ball…”
For those of you who have ever hired an individual to work for you personally (not through a business) did you check their employment papers and file SS withholding for them?
(FYI if you paid a ‘household employee’ more than $1600 in 2008 you, like Mr. Geithner, are required to withhold and submit to the Government social security taxes.)
“CJM
Posted January 13, 2009 at 4:19 pm | Permalink
…I’m responsible for my own actions, not greedy or envious either.”
that remains to be seen
“Geithner realized the error in November during the review process for his nomination and immediately corrected it, the official added.”
Why did he not “realize” the error in 2006 when the IRS called him about the error on his 2003 and 2004 returns?
Multi-niced Monique whines:
“Maggie,
The fruit flies are still fruit flies. If one of them had turned into an iguana or an oak tree then you might have something to talk about.”
Yeah, then there’d be evidence for creationism. Thank you for proving you have no concept about what evolution is. Now what name do you usually post under?
Geithner failed to pay $59,000 in taxes and Obama nominates this crook to be Treasury Secretary!
The guy should be in jail, and Obama nominates him for Treasury Secretary!
Culture of Corruption Continues………
Oh, and Geithner employed an illegal immigrant for a maid.
Fantastic nomination Obama!
Great Choice!
Obama’s a du mb sh it !!!
(I wonder if Geithner’s kids qualify for SCHIP?)
Did you know that 100% of the electricity in Geithner’s home comes from wind power?
Morgan Hite, 22, of Wasilla, AK pleaded guilty to child abuse resulting in the death of her newborn son, Gabriel Hite, who was left in a tote bag and hidden in her parent’s Grand Junction, CO home in late February, 2008. The tiny rotting body was found by her parents on April 29. Hite faces anywhere from 16 to 24 years in prison in a plea bargain which will allow the dismissal of the first-degree murder charge as well as unrelated forgery and theft charges.
Obama’s nominee for Commerce Secretary, Bill Richardson, resigned in disgrace because of a pending investigation into a conctractor bribery scandal.
Before Obama’s term even starts, the CULTURE OF CORRUPTION CONTINUES…..
I wonder if Obama’s selection for White House Dog will have to resign because of some scandal.
What’s the point Parkay?
Criminal Justice system that let’s the crooks get off easy?
Or pointing out that what Hite did would have been legal if he would have killed the baby a few days earlier using the abortion method?
Say, when those scientists created life using RNA, where did they get the RNA from?
I suppose you could shock a human corpse back to life too, though the brain would be dead.
Chas?
I think most all viruses are RNA based. :)
JimJohnson, RNA comes from protein.
SolDevVB posted January 13, 2009 at 3:40 pm
cosmos,
thank you for again proving you have no science to back your rants and theories.
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SolDevVB, there are decades of science to support the AGW theory. Such as this paper co-authored by Dr. Jim Hansen.
‘The ice-core record: climate sensitivity and future greenhouse warming’
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1990/1990_Lorius_etal.pdf
That AGW science will being used to change policies, and take action against AGW.
This is what SolDevVB has for “science”(sic), and all that he can do to stop AGW policies:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAA
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
It’s neither scientific, nor effective.
That AGW science will being used to change policies,
Clear as mud.
Geithner employed the maid for about 2 years–2004-2005. Her I-9 form expired during the last 3 months of her employment. So when she was originally hired, she was working legally according to the Yahoo news item I have just read.
SolDevVB posted January 13, 2009 at 6:04 pm
That AGW science will being used to change policies,
Clear as mud.
——————–
The AGW theory has been accepted.
Policies will be enacted to reduce AGW.
And there is nothing that SolDevVB can do about it.
Too bad Sol! LOL!
JimJohnson
Posted January 13, 2009 at 3:07 pm | Permalink
Can’t wait to see if I’m eligible for SCHIP.
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Hmmmmmm…. apparently, Johnson is incapable of reading plain English. OR, he is admitting to being part of the working poor… making too much to qualify for medicaid, butnot enough to afford health insurance for his minor children… Hahahahaha… yea, right….
MP Johnson, you arent qualified for SCHIP!!
AND, you are still a troll… back under your bridge now…. you have been given far too much soup for today…
MP = NO typos are bad today
Great quote from my February Money Magazine:
“Of course, even if Washington does a lot right in the next year or two, it cannot reflate your portfolio or guarantee your job or retirement prospects. But you already know your future is your responsibility. That’s why you read this magazine.”
Craig Matters
Managing Editor
JimJohnson
Posted January 13, 2009 at 2:03 pm | Permalink
Chas
Posted January 13, 2009 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
Anybody with half a brain knows what children are covered by SCHIP…
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Ok Chas. Prove you have half a brain.
What children are covered by SCHIP? (You’ve said this program should be renewed, you should know.)
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Chas cannot prove that he has even HALF a brain.
RoaCH
Posted January 13, 2009 at 7:44 pm | Permalink
Great quote from my February Money Magazine:
“Of course, even if Washington does a lot right in the next year or two, it cannot reflate your portfolio or guarantee your job or retirement prospects. But you already know your future is your responsibility.
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Oh No! Obama will take care of everybody.
Nobody has responsibility for taking care of themselves.
So Chas, you going to admit you were W R O N G about Jetmore getting 100 PERCENT of it’s electricity from Wind Power!!!!
LOL!
What a maroon you are! You could be the king of clowns at Barnum & Bailey.
Oh and Chas, why would my children, my poor lil children, not be qualified for SCHIP?
Kyoto will die, Russia is 99.99 percent to reject it.
Without Russia, the AGW alarmist will only have 44 percent of countries that ‘may’ commit to outlandish taxes and bank robbing carbon credit ‘ponzi’ schemes.
The Kyoto goals cannot be met without Russia or the U.S. or China or India…etc. etc.
You know, this you to be a Liberal blog playground for parroting of Dailykos & Demunderground.
Where’d they all go?
Where’d they all go
Email servers are slow tonight. They have to wait for email from each other telling them what to post next. Pmomma and someone else got caught on this. Heck, they even admitted it!
Word is that Rush Limbaugh flew to Washington today. Could it be?
Would that give the lib wackos severe heartburn or what?
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Obama Dines With Conservative Opinion Leaders
13 Jan 2009 07:01 pm
It’s true.
He motorcaded to a house in Maryland this evening, and if the press pool report is accurate, he is breaking bread with William Kristol and David Brooks. (If Brooks and Kristol seem to be unusually briefed about Obama’s thinking, you’ll know why.)
CBS News’s Dan Raviv tells the pool that the house, on Grafton Street in Chevy Chase, belongs to George Will. (Unless he’s moved.)
Tomorrow, I hear Obama has another private meeting with non-Republican opinion columnists.
Ellen Moran, the incoming White House communications director, set these meetings up.
Again — establishment opinion matters to the Obama communications team.
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Da link
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/obama_dines_with_conservative.php
StevenEDavis
Posted January 12, 2009 at 10:52 pm | Permalink
RoaCH
And of course Linda, my pigeon, I said minimum retirement age because I was right. And Viva l’amour, my little flower pot, I see you as fresh as a new daisy in the spring. Le mew, le purrrrrrrrrrrr
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Is Roach, Max when he is drunk? Or, maybe when Max is toking on too many roaches?
Something is not right with this citizen, I’m telling ya…
Mr. Davis must not remember a one Pepé Le Pew. My posts were right from some of his romantic one liners… LoL
Schlozman.. is that you?
Something is not right with this citizen, I’m telling ya…
What can I say, we didn’t have xboxes, our own radios, computers, nintendo’s, or any of the modern toys to entertain us as kids. We got black and white cartoons. Hanna Barbara or Loony Toons.
And only three channels to learn from.
My generation was shaped on these. (and hours of playing outdoors with kids riding bikes all over town from sunup to sunset all summer long.)
“Mr. Davis must not remember a one Pepé Le Pew. My posts were right from some of his romantic one liners… LoL”
Yes, I remember Pepe. He was a skunk – a Walt Disney creation. But, I thought you were a roach.
You do seem to want to represent the best of the animal kingdom. LOL
Might as well. I can’t sing or dance. Besides, Cosmos has the earth covered.
And StevenEDavis if you can think of some romantic one liners a roach might use, please let me know.
I have spent hours contemplating The Theory of Relativity and love lines a roach would use.
It’s really quite a strain, don’t you know?
I think Roach we are of the same generation. We went all summer without shoes and my feet were so callused you could strike a kitchen match on one one of my heels.
I grew up in the county outside of Wichita.
Something is not right with this citizen, I’m telling ya…
I also had subscriptions to three magazines growing up: Mad Magazine, Popular Mechanic, and Soviet Life.
I read Readers Digest too, but I had both parents and three older siblings who got dibs on it before it made it to me. Usually, that’s when I found it on the bathroom floor.
My first bike was a second hand stingray. I saved money from my paper route to buy a banana seat. Mine was tiger covered. It was no longer cool to put playing cards in the spokes. But I did have a horn, a bell, and a headlight until it nerded me out.
I am pretty sure roach love is all expressed with pheromones – you know smells. Not conducive to love poetry or even simple language.
I remember always being car sick on family trips.
Mom and dad and a bro up front and brothers on each side of me. I never got a window. There was an imaginary line running down the backseat on either side of me.
If I strayed one HAIR over onto a brothers side – I got a swift and deadly karate chop. Too short to see over the back of the front seat, and not allowed to look out either brothers window.
Speaking of which, there was no air conditioning. WIndows were rolled all the way down. That was a rule, I guess. In summer time, everyone rolled the window down before lighting a smoke.
Speaking of smokes. Dad smoked dozens of them. Blew mostly right into the backseat. And ashes? Well sure he “flicked” them out his window, but all smokers KNOW where they end up with windows open. BACKSET MIDDLE.
I am not sure if there were music on radio in those days. Dad either had on a baseball game loud enough to hear it over the open windows at 65 MPH and mom’s droning voice – or farm radio. I remember pork belly prices.
Mom had this nasty gum for car sickness. No idea to this day what she had me chewing. But most of the time, I associated it with puking and that’s what I did when the gum was physcially jammed into my mouth.
Of course, the smell was nausiating. Sometimes the three of us in the back seat would puke in unison. ONe, anda two, and a three in a row.
Well I can’t keep my eyes open.
CHAS: Are you going to be praying a blessing on the OBama’s dog again tonight (even though they haven’t bought one yet)?
Just wondering because you are starting to ulogize and create sainthood before this guy is even in office.
I understand the mindset because Catholics do the same thing with their pope. You can buy pope toys to pray to even before the new guy is seated.
So please, pray for the Obama’s future dog again tonight. Doggoneit, they need all the help they can get.
RoaCH posted January 13, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Might as well. I can’t sing or dance. Besides, Cosmos has the earth covered.
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No, a very large number of climate scientists have the Earth covered, including Dr. Hansen.
And you have to include the earlier scientists, all the way back to the 1800’s.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/timeline.htm
Speaking of pheromes, that sweatty t-shirt you have on BJ when you’re one-handing it while doing your PC interactive virtual reality thing – don’t wash those shirts. Wear them dirty on your next date, if you ever have one.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479819,00.html
Women Can Smell a Man’s Sexual Intentions
Tuesday, January 13, 2009
“The Kyoto goals cannot be met without Russia or the U.S. or China or India…etc. etc.”—Regular
Reg, that’s what I’ve been telling comatose for months. The global warming stuff, with carbon credits and taxes makes them all warm and fuzzy but it it goes right down the tubes when countries realize what it will to to economies and living standards. People will simply reject it.
I remember stingray bikes with the banana seats. The really cool kids could do wheelies with theirs. I just had a regular schwin (sp?) bike.
Your description of the car trips above does not help romanticize the time period. Both of my parents smoked, but very little. My dad would smoke two cigarettes a day – more if he was listening to a particularly close OU football game.
What was your first car? Mine was a ‘65 (actually a 64 1/2) hardtop mustang. 289 c.i. V-8 with a 4 barrel carb. It was a nice car. Just this Christmas, my younger sister revealed that she used to “borrow” my car in the mornings I slept in late. I had no idea she ever did that.
Thanks Cosmos, I feel much more confident knowing you have it all under control. You and your fellow scientists and experts. Keep up the good work and deep down inside know that every creature on this evolution driven world appreciates you in some fashion or form. From the first pollywog to the replacement for man. Polar bears are naming their children after you. You are my hero.
Are you alright RoaCH, you don’t sound like everything is functioning normally.
Should we call someone for you?
If not….have a good night!
PS: And thanks for the funny reminiscing. Hard to believe sometimes we were all young once.
bigotbawks,
Don’t worry. . . the replacement for Kyoto will have the even more stringent emission reductions that are obviously needed.
Hey, cosmos –
Wondering if you have read this?
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/05/the-seven-myths-of-energy-independence.html
This guy is saying that in the short term, especially, oil is going to part of our energy resources.
Your thoughts on that?
I am not asking this to give you crap, just interested in your view of this guy’s take.
Thanks.
Cosmos took a break to go gas up his car and grab another six-pack.
Is gas to high or low? Depends on who you talk to.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28643952/
SolDevVB posted January 13, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Hansen was predicting the end of the earth, in 1971, due to the looming ice age.
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Poor, very misinformed SolDevVB.
Rasool and Schneider (not Hansen) wrote the paper, which did not predict a “looming ice age”. They only used a computer program that Hansen had written.
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/09/to_rasool.php
“Apparently the IBD thinks that if someone uses a program you wrote as a tool in their analysis you must agree with their conclusions. By their logic, if I borrow a pen from you, you must agree with everything I write with your pen.”
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It’s a shame that SolDevVB is so misinformed, and also unable to understand climate science.
“Don’t worry. . . the replacement for Kyoto will have the even more stringent emission reductions that are obviously needed.”
And they will go down in flames as well.
Good night comatose, the mono-subject bore.
A letter from a United Methodist Bishop (includes an audio selection) >>>>
http://www.umc.org/site/c.lwL4KnN1LtH/b.4877835/k.E8AA/44_Steps_Closer_A_Nations_Journey.htm?tr=y&auid=4406840
Enjoy!!
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings all!!
blessings on the new first dog,
whatever the breed may be!!
so mote it be!!
Steven,
Thank you for the link. Most of it seems reasonable. . . it will take time to make such major changes.
And the author may have changed his viewpoint some, since it was written before May 2008?
Maybe more loans, etc to auto-makers, to help retool for higher mpg models?
Higher energy efficiency, which is cheapest, is the key solution.
OEG has some good strategies, like feebates and ‘carrots’, plus graphs of how a conservative effort could cut oil demand.
http://www.oilendgame.com/ReadTheBook.html
Thanks, cosmos.
cosmos said ‘conservative effort.’
I bet that was painful.
Hmmm . . . turns out that Huckabee had Annthrax Coulter on his Fox News Show and played back for the audience — who audiably gasped — all the despicable lies she said about him during the campaign.
Example: “He’s a stupid Christian, he’s easily led,” she said of Huckabee in December 2007. In another clip, she complained, “I don’t think he’s very bright. That’s why they like him. He’s their version of an evangelical. They’d like him better if he still weighed 600 pounds. That would be perfect.”
So, CONs, who’s the lying POS scumbag?
Huckabee or Coulter?
bigotbawks posted January 13, 2009 at 10:46 pm
“Don’t worry. . . the replacement for Kyoto will have the even more stringent emission reductions that are obviously needed.”
And they will go down in flames as well.
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Only in your fantasies.
When something has to be done, it gets done.
So, CONs, who’s the lying POS scumbag?
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It’s right here on our Website – CraponAmerica.
Roach, re: your 9:10pm post–
According to an article in last Sunday’s Parade Magazine in the WE, sitting in the middle of the back seat was/is the safest place to be in a car crash so you can tell your brothers that “mom & dad loved me the most!”
Regular posted January 13, 2009 at 11:16 pm
cosmos said ‘conservative effort.’
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Regular is hungry, and wants some soup.
“Conservative” effort, as in “moderate, cautious” effort.
‘World ‘needs radical cuts’ on CO2‘
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7826994.stm
When asked to choose who is wrong, Huckabee or Coulter, CONs brains (such as they are) just fritz out.
It’s like that old Star Trek episode where the captive crew fries the circuits of the “logical” androids by saying and doing nonsensical things–the CON robots are lost without an El Duce telling them what to think . . .
What did Annie Coultergeist say when she heard the playback??
On a somewhat different subject, check out this photo essay on students from the Patrick Henry College. These are usually conservative kids who were home schooled. Jim Ruyan’s kids went there and at least one served in the Bush White House.
Interesting.
http://www.motherjones.com/photos/right/
Especially for all the redneck, reichwing posters — you all know who you are >>>>
http://www.motherjones.com/photos/aryan-outfitters/
Frank Rich not holding back:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/opinion/04rich.html
The dude is on fire, I’m telling ya…
Jim Ruyan’s – an error should have been “Jim Ryun’s” kids . . . sorry.
‘He(Bush) had made the same claim three years ago after the Palestinian elections, championed by his “freedom agenda” (and almost $500 million of American aid), led to a landslide victory for Hamas. “There is something healthy about a system that does that,” Bush observed at the time, as he congratulated Palestinian voters for rejecting “the old guard.”’
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/opinion/04rich.html
Chas,
He makes one’s head spin. No?
Night, all…
“‘World ‘needs radical cuts’ on CO2‘”—comatose
Notice there are two Oxygen atoms for every Carbon atom in the molecule CO2.
Comatose put your head in a bag and quit consuming Oxygen and you will quite metabolizing Carbon, then you will cease producing CO2, doing your part to cut production.
I know, that sounds “radical”, but that’s what you are calling for above, isn’t it.
So get with it, show us your sincerity and lack of hypocracy. That way you will truly be comatose, ‘comatose’.
‘quit’ not ‘quite’, above.
Boxlock20 = OCD specialist
StevenEDavis
Posted January 14, 2009 at 12:56 am | Permalink
Chas,
He makes one’s head spin. No?
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Spot on, Steven!!
“Notice there are two Oxygen atoms for every Carbon atom in the molecule CO2………..”
Very similiar to what I’ve seen posted here before Boxlock?
Didn’t catch it Am_Way I guess, too bad he didn’t take their advice, we be alot less bored with the constant drone of climate change.
No Chas, comatose is a Obsessive compulsive on AGW.
Yes, AmWay–
And there are THREE oxygen atoms in Ozone which is protective at high atmospheres and toxic at low ones.
Talk about “dumbing down . . . ”
Counting the atoms is utterly irrelevant to toxicity or potential harm. That’s like saying that lead oxide is harmless because it has oxygen it it.
Fatal CO2 poisoning, thanks to automobiles, is one of the most common forms of accidental death by poisoning in the US.
Correction: I meant CO poisoning (carbon MONOxide). It’s oxygen atom doesn’t prevent it from killing people who have fautly exhaust systems on their furnace.
CO2 of course is also toxic in the sense that it can’t be used to oxygenate the blood. Some volcanic rifts are so densely packed with CO2 that any animal that wanders in, doesn’t come back out . . .