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The great thing about dinosaurs is they disprove the absurd notion the Earth is only a few thousand years old. Thankfully reality minded people can be awed by the fact that a being, the size of a giraffe, can jump into the air and fly.
Four, Three, Two, One . . . Pterosaurs Have Lift Off
ScienceDaily (Jan. 7, 2009) — Pterosaurs have long suffered an identity crisis. Pop culture heedlessly — and wrongly — lumps these extinct flying lizards in with dinosaurs. Even paleontologists assumed that because the creatures flew, they were birdlike in many ways, such as using only two legs to take flight.
Now comes what is believed to be first-time evidence that launching some 500 pounds of reptilian heft into flight required pterosaurs to use four limbs: two were ultra-strong wings which, when folded and balanced on a knuckle, served as front “legs” that helped the creature to walk — and leap.
Publishing in Zitteliana, Michael B. Habib, M.S., of the Center for Functional Anatomy and Evolution at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, reports his comparison of bone strength in the limbs of pterosaurs to that of birds and concludes that pterosaurs had much stronger “arms” than legs. The reverse is true of birds.
More real science, not creationist whining at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090106161514.htm
Finally, a national move seems to be starting calling for arrests of driving with cell phones.
“Maggotpunk” offers –
“The great thing about dinosaurs is they disprove the absurd notion the Earth is only a few thousand years old.”
I dunno.
There are still people who think “The Flintstones” was a documentary.
Mornin’, “HLP.”
MH, I wondered if Hank would look at the pic in the article and assume that’s proof humans lived with dinosaurs. Then I thought that would entail him actually taking the effort to read something scientific.
“Maggotpunk” –
A couple of weeks ago I posted a link to a review of the Creationists’ Museum in Kentucky. I can’t find that link now but it had some photos of the “museum’s” dio-ramas showing little boys Cain and Abel frolicking with their pet velociraptors.
Part of the downside of Internet forums (fora?) such as WE Blog is how often we have to suffer fools who, as Winston Churchill defined fanatics: “…won’t change their minds and won’t change the subject.”
“…had some photos of the “museum’s” dio-ramas showing little boys Cain and Abel frolicking with their pet velociraptors.”
I saw that picture! If it was REALLY realistic it would have illustrated both little boys spread all over the place with their guts hanging out of the dinosaur’s mouths.
Morning. Please read “USD Power” at http://www.MiamiCountyOpinion.com Please forward it eveywhere. It shows where the $1 Billion is going by the end of 2010. We can stop it. The future of Kansas children and our future is at stake. Demand better, get involved. Herbert West 3rd, Publisher. http://www.MiamiCountyOpinion.com
Thanks for the link, sheriff.
Here’s the link to the Creation museum with the pics of the boys playing along side the dinosaurs…it’s the last picture.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/9/105322/6744
Gee, I wonder how man survived the meteor impact that wiped out all the dinoaurs?
“Mary_Caruso” –
The only logical answer:
http://tinyurl.com/8m583q
A Gary Larson classic.
Bush to hold news conference Monday
WASHINGTON – President Bush will hold a news conference at 9:15 a.m. ET on Monday, the White House said.
Bush will make a brief opening statement, commenting on the important role the White House press corps has in covering presidents and the White House, and then will take questions, spokeswoman Dana Perino said.
The president is looking forward to discussing the important events of the last eight years as well as issues in the news today, Perino added.
The last time the president formally took questions from reporters was Dec. 14 in Baghdad, a session that hurtled to the top of the news when Iraqi journalist Muntadhar al-Zeidi threw his shoes at Bush during a question-and-answer sessions with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28617979/
Economy made few gains in Bush years
President Bush has presided over the weakest eight-year span for the U.S. economy in decades, according to an analysis of key data, and economists across the ideological spectrum increasingly view his two terms as a time of little progress on the nation’s thorniest fiscal challenges.
The number of jobs in the nation increased by about 2 percent during Bush’s tenure, the most tepid growth over any eight-year span since data collection began seven decades ago. Gross domestic product, a broad measure of economic output, grew at the slowest pace for a period of that length since the Truman administration. And Americans’ incomes grew more slowly than in any presidency since the 1960s, other than that of Bush’s father.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28612358/
What will progressives change their name to next, Digressive?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
“Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama’s pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for “global governance” and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.”
The AGW crowd can claim victory now. It must be those carbon credits that changed the climate and saved mankind (sarcasm off).
“The earth is now on the brink of entering another Ice Age, according to a large and compelling body of evidence from within the field of climate science. Many sources of data which provide our knowledge base of long-term climate change indicate that the warm, twelve thousand year-long Holocene period will rather soon be coming to an end, and then the earth will return to Ice Age conditions for the next 100,000 years.”
http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/106922-earth_ice_age-0
“Gee, I wonder how man survived the meteor impact that wiped out all the dinoaurs?”
No stinking meteor is a match for God’s will.
bigotbawks posted January 12, 2009 at 7:14 am
Also, the article what not a scientific study, it was an summation article, an opinion, on what has been done and done wrong with your precious climate science. Well written too.
Do you deny that?
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Your Pravda column is a collection of obvious lies about climate science.
bigotbawks would know that, if he knew the basics of climate science.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-0111/#comment-501454
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-0111/#comment-501478
bigotbawks posted: The fact remains…you are a very boring, single interest, humorless hysteric who many are finding tiring and scroll over much of the time. I am starting to completely skip much of your post or simply give them a cursory glance to see if you have been so kind as to mention my name or someone else’s that you are attacking.
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No, I present the facts about an important issue — AGW science.
And bigotbawks is unable to understand AGW science, because of his blind hatred of carbon taxes, and/or other reason(s).
Please do scroll past my posts bigotbawks, and stick with issues that you are able to understand. . . if there are any.
“The last time the president formally took questions from reporters was Dec. 14 in Baghdad, a session that hurtled to the top of the news when Iraqi journalist Muntadhar al-Zeidi threw his shoes at Bush during a question-and-answer sessions with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.”
Folks, it’s time to loosen your laces…
cosMo,
Prove how sincere you are about your faith. Sacrifice your computer to the AGW gods. It appears your carbon footprint is going to destroy the world, hypocrite.
“Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research.”
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5489134.ece
Monkeyhawk posted January 12, 2009 at 7:17 am
The only logical answer:
http://tinyurl.com/8m583q
A Gary Larson classic.
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Thank you Monkeyhawk. A great and classic cartoon! I knew which one it was before clicking your link.
donndublin,
Why are you unable to understand the difference between science and religious faith?
And why are you unable to understand climate science?
“And why are you unable to understand climate science?”
“And bigotbawks is unable to understand AGW science,…”
“If Ambler actually knew the science…”
And the band plays on.
Most don’t care about climate science comatose, few care at all and know the earth will take care itself.
It’s boring comatose.
Global Freezing is Coming.
Pleased to be asking you to PANIC!!!!
“As Democrats and their president-elect — with invaluable assistance from their media minions — continue spreading climate hysteria in order to raise taxes and redistribute wealth, a possibly inconvenient truth has just been presented to the international community: “The earth is now on the brink of entering another Ice Age, according to a large and compelling body of evidence from within the field of climate science.”"
“Most don’t care about climate science comatose, few care at all and know the earth will take care itself.”
Now listen up ya’ll. Bawks is gonna tell us how it is. Hell don’t none of the rest of us even need to bother posting. Sooner or later a nugget will fall from THAT tree of knowledge to answer all our questions and solve all our problems!
bigotbawks posted January 12, 2009 at 8:39 am
Most don’t care about climate science comatose, few care at all and know the earth will take care itself.
It’s boring comatose.
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You obviously do not care about climate science bigotbawks — you’re clueless about it, and you lie about it.
If our Earth could “take care itself”, greenhouse gases would not have risen sharply recently. And we would not be having the current, long-term human-caused warming trend.
What is happening to our Earth’s climate is definitely not “boring”.
Hamas leaders hiding in Hospital…
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231424936164&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull“Hamas is using Gaza’s Shifa Hospital as a meeting place and even distributed salaries to its operatives there over the weekend, Public Security Minister and former Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) head Avi Dichter said Monday morning.
Regarding Israeli intelligence reports that the Hamas leadership had taken refuge in Gaza’s Shifa Hospital, Dichter said that the “Shifa Hospital has long ago ceased to be just a hospital, just as the UNRWA humanitarian and health services in Gaza long ago ceased to be just humanitarian services providing food and medical services.”
“”UN schools in Gaza long ago stopped being just schools,” the minister said. “All these services and places are refuge for Hamas terrorists and commanders.”
Hamas and the Palestinians:
‘Oh youhoo, oh youhoo, we are hiding here among the civilians in hospitals and schools, so you can’t shoot now. You have to wait, no shooting now for you, but we can continue to shoot at you and fire rockets at your civilian areas cause those are our rules.’
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:23 am | Permalink
donndublin,
Why are you unable to understand the difference between science and religious faith?
And why are you unable to understand climate science?
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cosMo, I understand that climate science is never “settled” and religious faith is often characterized as absolute. Calling someone a denier indicates zealous faith not science.
Once again I challenge you to present your credentials like I and other skeptics have to prove you understand science. Your avoidance proves you don’t understand the difference.
bigotbawks insists that future problems for humans are “boring”. I guess life is easy, if you’re blinded from facts by a hatred of carbon taxes?
‘Billions face food shortages, study warns‘
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/09/food-climate-change
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:57 am | Permalink
You obviously do not care about climate science bigotbawks — you’re clueless about it, and you lie about it.
If our Earth could “take care itself”, greenhouse gases would not have risen sharply recently. And we would not be having the current, long-term human-caused warming trend.
What is happening to our Earth’s climate is definitely not “boring”.
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You obviously do not care about the millions of humans that will starve or die from lack of energy sources if your Draconian laws are enacted to enrich the socialists like Algore.
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Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:05 am | Permalink
bigotbawks insists that future problems for humans are “boring”. I guess life is easy, if you’re blinded from facts by a hatred of carbon taxes?
‘Billions face food shortages, study warns‘
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/09/food-climate-change
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Why are you more concerned about food shortages a hundred years from now than you are in the next 10 years?
cosMo has more faith in predicting long term weather than he does short term. Prof you’re know nothing about science.
AND the church of bawks raises its attendance by one with the arrival of his flunky, the caped charader okob er “Donndublin”.
Oh folks? You might wanna bookmark this one. The voices that know all are sure to be in predictable chorus today.
donndublin posted January 12, 2009 at 9:01 am
Once again I challenge you to present your credentials like I and other skeptics have to prove you understand science.
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I don’t recall reading your credentials here.
Please post that link, or repost your credentials that make you more qualified re AGW climate science than all of the top climate scientist worldwide.
And do you have links to bigotbawks’ fleettwood’s, et al credentials?
from cosmo’s link —
“Half of the world’s population could face severe food shortages by the end of the century as rising temperatures take their toll on farmers’ crops, scientists have warned.
Harvests of staple food crops such as rice and maize could fall by between 20% and 40% as a result of higher temperatures during the growing season in the tropics and subtropics. Warmer temperatures in the region are also expected to increase the risk of drought, cutting crop losses further, according to a new study.”
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Yeah, like the IPCC computer models could be right at least once.
Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Group sees ‘global governance’ as solution
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
“Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama’s pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for “global governance” and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.”
A dam* socialist bent on turning the U.S. into another 3rd. world country, harming people in the process and with nothing to gain.
“And do you have links to bigotbawks’ fleettwood’s, et al credentials?”
I didn’t think cosmo could get any weaker.
I was wrong.
Whoops. Forgot this one…
“More temperate regions such as Europe could expect to see previous record temperatures become the norm by 2100.”
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Pleased to be ignoring the cooling over the last 8 years.
donndublin posted January 12, 2009 at 9:12 am
cosMo has more faith in predicting long term weather than he does short term. Prof you’re know nothing about science.
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Poor donndublin. . .
He just can’t understand that climate is an average of weather over a period of time.
He just can’t understand that AGW science makes future climate projections, not future weather forecasts.
from the link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/09/food-climate-change
“Battisti and Rosamond Naylor, at Stanford University in California, combined climate models from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and historical examples of the impact of heatwaves on agriculture, and found severe food shortages were likely to become more common.”
cosMo,
How can the computer models be reliable if they are three years out of date as you have stated? Without the recent cooling trend caused by the La Nina (again your assertion) the models are not accurate.
GIGO (garbage in garbage out)
Related to the real and proven fact of human caused global warming is the matter of consumption of the Earth’s resources and the treatment of its environment.
While the American standard of gratuitous consumption and environmental neglect and abuse was unsustainable on it own, we are but a nation of 300 million.
Several other and more populous nations now seek that same standard of living.
The planet just simply isn’t up to it.
SO, the American way of living must change. This does not necessarily mean privation, though some in this country could use a good dose of that. No it means we must seek to keep our standard of living but do so in more environmentally conscious and resource conserving ways.
I say the country that put a man on the Moon in nine years is up to it!
Anybody wanna disagree?
Cosmos you did not adequately address this Phd for from MIT. He has several articles available of which I only posted one. Just for you I am posting it again and after you have had time to adequately research this man. Tell us why you as a __________ are more knowledgeable that Douglass.
“On the whole, the evidence indicates that
model trends in the troposphere are very likely inconsistent
with observations that indicate that, since 1979, there
is no significant long-term amplification factor relative to
the surface. If these results continue to be supported, then
future projections of temperature change, as depicted in
the present suite of climate models, are likely too high.
In summary, the debate in this field revolves around
the idea of discrepancy in surface and tropospheric
trends in the tropics where vertical convection dominates
heat transfer. Models are very consistent, as this article
demonstrates, in showing a significant difference between
surface and tropospheric trends, with tropospheric temperature
trends warming faster than the surface. What
is new in this article is the determination of a very
robust estimate of the magnitude of the model trends at
each atmospheric layer. These are compared with several
equally robust updated estimates of trends from observations
which disagree with trends from the models.
The last 25 years constitute a period of more complete
and accurate observations and more realistic modelling
efforts. Yet the models are seen to disagree with the
observations. We suggest, therefore, that projections of
future climate based on these models be viewed with
much caution.
http://www.pas.rochester.edu/~douglass/
Cosmos it appears that this credible, peer reviewed scientist with a Phd from MIT disagrees with your view of the models and what they mean.
Can you trump his Phd?
fleettwood posted January 12, 2009 at 9:17 am | Permalink
“And do you have links to bigotbawks’ fleettwood’s, et al credentials?”
I didn’t think cosmo could get any weaker.
I was wrong.
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You are a “skeptic”, aren’t you?
Are you calling donndublin a liar?
donndublin said that you skeptics have presented your credentials.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-112-4/#comment-501738
Once again I challenge you to present your credentials like I and other skeptics have to prove you understand science.
Yesterday, Monkeyhawk posted a negative comment and used the term, “CONS” as those who met the criteria of his post.
Not being a liberal, I was not certain whether or not he was addressing somethign I had post – or someone else. I know where I stand and my standards.
But I have heard terminology thrown all over the place by liberals to describe anyone not professing the same standards as democrats. So I asked him, not to be a dick, but to know when I should feel offended, was he talking about people like me, or should I respond?
Can we start 2009 off with a clear understanding of the proper terminology to describe anyone who disagress with the liberal democrat point of view?
That would make posting easier for all. Here is Monekyhawks definition of some of the terms used to desribe NON-democrats:
(I shortened them, so you might want to go to Monkeyhawks original post to see if I butchered his opinion.)
“A “CON” is a catch-all term that includes the first three letters of the word “conservative.” It’s Internet shorthand, perhaps, but it embodies so much. You’re “CON” when you’re against about anything. You’re a “CON” when you’ll use all sorts of tricks and misdirections to, ahem, “con” someone out of something. You’re a “CON” when your crimes catch up to you and you’re sent to the pokey.
As for your question, “What is a ‘Republican?” the answer is pretty much “Whatever it takes to win elections.”
“What is a Rightwingnut?”
Well, although they’re frequently “CONs” by being against just about everything,” you have to consider the non-Republic Party types who tend toward the Libertarians, a lot of conspiracy theorists, Art Bell enthusiasts and folks who claim they hear God speaking to them.
Right-wingnuts claim to speak for all things conservative but the Repubic Party and a lot of other Goldwater conservatives slowly back away from from the wingnuts… obviously afraid of a gun getting introduced to the debate.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-0111/#comment-501634
According to the latest ‘Discovery Channel’ documentary, it was micro-parasites and ‘worms’ that killed off the dinosaurs, not a meteor strike.
Wait a few more years, another theory will arise.
Ain’t science precise and accurate? :D
okobserver,
I did adequately address that — the tropical troposphere data is noisy, the time interval is too short, and the authors did not use the updated temperature data set.
Don’t blame me if you cannot understand the basics of science.
Monkeyhawk you asked for my response.
First, I think you covered the fourth item “religious nuts” or the religious right in your Right-wingnut description. Is that “wingnuts” in shortened fashion?
Secondly, I really cannot argue with your definitions. It’s libs call on how you stack everybody up.
I just wanted to know when you were addressing NON-liberals like me in my category.
So the finals are:
CONS
REPUBLICANS
RIGHT-WINGNUTS (or just plain wingnuts)
cosmos, please do an averaging of temperatures for the deserts and the arctic regions so we may know what our climate will be like in averaged land.
Ain’t science precise and accurate? :D
Well, it’s certainly a lot more credible than faith.
Whatever the version, we have “God” early on with the saying and doing of a lot of things that someone said someone said he said or did.
But then, God seems to have grown very silent and sedentary. No doubt resting on his laurels?
Maybe we’ve a right to expect a little more show and tell before we take past performance reported second hand very seriously?
Cosmos don’t blame me if Douglass has thrown you out in left field and you can not adequately address his proven arguments. It would appear this is a man you can’t discredit so will try to blame my lack of knowledge for your own lacks.
Good try. Better keep working. It didn’t work and you need to go back to school on this one. I will wait to give you time to research. Lay off those google searches though. Not sure you have enough carbon credits.
Regular posted January 12, 2009 at 9:35 am
cosmos, please do an averaging of temperatures for the deserts and the arctic regions so we may know what our climate will be like in averaged land.
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Regular,
Please prove that your recent stroke did not cause you to lose ALL ability to think.
Explain the difference between a GLOBAL average temperature and a REGIONAL average temperature.
cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:31 am | Permalink
okobserver,
I did adequately address that — the tropical troposphere data is noisy, the time interval is too short, and the authors did not use the updated temperature data set.
Don’t blame me if you cannot understand the basics of science.
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Translation:
You science refutes mine. It can’t be credible. In fact it must be a lie. You are a liar. Your scientists are liars.
Oh yeah, ad-hominem.
okobserver.
The Douglass et al paper did not throw AGW science “out in left field”. Just as two similar papers in 2004 did not.
Instead of making stupid ad hominems at me, you should try to understand science.
“Once again I challenge you to present your credentials like I and other skeptics have to prove you understand science.”
Below me.
“But then, God seems to have grown very silent and sedentary. No doubt resting on his laurels?”—BlowJ
Only with you BlowJ, only with you, because you abandon Him first.
Sad, but then you are sad.
Cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:13 am | Permalink
donndublin posted January 12, 2009 at 9:01 am
Once again I challenge you to present your credentials like I and other skeptics have to prove you understand science.
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I don’t recall reading your credentials here.
Please post that link, or repost your credentials that make you more qualified re AGW climate science than all of the top climate scientist worldwide.
And do you have links to bigotbawks’ fleettwood’s, et al credentials?
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I’ve stated more than once that I am a professional engineer. WHAT ARE YOURS??????????????
I never claimed to know more than the climate scientists like you have but I do know more than you do about science and scientific methodology than you do. You continue to lie about that.
Your so called “top climate scientists” are also skeptical. They include the censored ones.
http://www.greenworldtrust.org.uk/Science/Debate.htm
Cosmos I have never claimed to be a scientist. I am an accountant so I read alot from the best scientists I can find. This man’s credentials are stellar. If you trump him just let us know. If not don’t try to discredit his papers with your word alone.
You are losing this war as more and more credible scientists in the field are saying.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:28 am | Permalink
fleettwood posted January 12, 2009 at 9:17 am | Permalink
“And do you have links to bigotbawks’ fleettwood’s, et al credentials?”
I didn’t think cosmo could get any weaker.
I was wrong.
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You are a “skeptic”, aren’t you?
Are you calling donndublin a liar?
donndublin said that you skeptics have presented your credentials.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-112-4/#comment-501738
Once again I challenge you to present your credentials like I and other skeptics have to prove you understand science.
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Once again cosMo avoids presenting by credentials by lying. I never said ALL the other skeptics have presented their credentials. I do know Regular has but you continue to show how extreme and zealous you are even though you have no credentials. Therefore you have zero credibility on AGW.
correction: Once again cosMo avoids presenting his credentials by lying.
donndublin posted January 12, 2009 at 9:53 am
I’ve stated more than once that I am a professional engineer.
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That does NOT make you more qualified than the world’s top climate scientists.
donndublin posted: “Your so called “top climate scientists” are also skeptical. They include the censored ones.
[link]
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ROFLMAO! [link] = S. Fred Singer, Dennis T. Avery (AGRICULTURAL ECONOMIST), Joanne Nova, OISM, Steven Milloy, Jaworowski, Monckton, . . .
donndublin, you are just too funny.
I’m gonna do something useful for a while, instead of wasting my time here.
donndublin, you are just too funny.
I’m gonna do something useful for a while, instead of wasting my time here.
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Translation:
I am being ganged up on and getting my a$$ handed to me.
donndublin,
I do not need to present my credentials on this anonymous blog because:
1) I do NOT use my credentials to state the facts about AGW science.
2) You AGW deniers have zero respect for the world’s most eminent climate scientists.
Instead of attacking me, you should try to defend your (false) attacks on AGW science.
AGW science.
Yeah, that multi-billion dollar industry…
Cosmos you sure used a lot of words to say ‘I lose’.
SolDevVB posted January 12, 2009 at 10:09 am
Translation:
I am being ganged up on and getting my a$$ handed to me.
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No, but it is boring dealing with you AGW deniers. You keep presenting the same dumb arguments, and you do not understand science.
With comments like:
“Trees and land should not belong to anyone”
“And when I posted that it was ANOTHER day closer to a better and more socialized America.”
“No one should be allowed to make money off of other peoples work” (paraphrase)
BJ a.k.a. must be a hard core socialist. However kfg says:
“This is just as funny as them whiiiiining about JR not having a job, when he owns a business”
Perhaps JR is a drug dealer. Drug dealers don’t pay taxes and are part of the underground economy. Communist a.k.a socialist countries have underground economies larger than the legitimate ones.
Well let’s see what we got here.
Well we have okobserver/donndublin who figures her opinion has double the weight posted under two nics.
And solie showed up. He voted for Ron Paul. Say no more.
And of course bawks, who has not yet delineated where HIS personal opinion leaves off and his channel to God begins.
Yup, quite the illustrative gallery of stodgy, immovably right if not correct folk.
Why is it they have no faith in their own country? Can it be that their own selfishness and fear weighs more to them than the future of American and the health of the planet?
“I am being ganged up on and getting my a$$ handed to me.”—SolDevVB
donndublin, no you’re not. You are being rational instead of hysterical and chicken little foolish like the AGW hysterics.
A thought on the Israeli vs Palestinian thing:
“We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.” —former Israeli prime minister Golda Meir
Much as time and public opinion are leaving the deniers of science and adherents to stupidity behind, so now must I too chuckle at them and take my leave.
You keep presenting the same dumb arguments,
Pot, meet kettle.
and you do not understand science.
And more ad-hominem.
How about the science of the last 8 years of cooling? Seems you are the denier of that science.
BJ off to the twilight zone for you. You really are a deluded nitwit.
“…so now must I too chuckle at them and take my leave.”
Leaving to cash your welfare check?
Sol,
What do you expect, comatose is a one dimensional person with no life or existence separate from this religion of climate science so he hold dear, defending it, because it is whole life. There is nothing to him otherwise.
And BlowJ has less than an even that existence, he is nothing….period.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 10:17 am | Permalink
I do not need to present my credentials on this anonymous blog because:
1) I do NOT use my credentials to state the facts about AGW science.
2) You AGW deniers have zero respect for the world’s most eminent climate scientists.
No, but it is boring dealing with you AGW deniers. You keep presenting the same dumb arguments, and you do not understand science.
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cosMo, You keep proving you don’t understand science my not presenting you credentials because you have none. If you had any, you would present them.
Maggotpunk,
I am simply amazed! Why would anyone still be studying Evolution or Dinosaurs? Don’t they know that it is all a proven fact which is irrefutable?
Apparently this guy didn’t get the memo.
I especially like one of the first sentences:
“Now comes what is believed to be…”
Really? “believed” to be?
Well,that settles it then. It must be an irrefutable fact as well, because this guy “believes” it to be one.
correction: cosMo, You keep proving you don’t understand science by not presenting your credentials because you have none. If you had any, you would present them.
“We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.” —former Israeli prime minister Golda Meir
Truer words were never spoken, they’ll kill their kids to get what they want.
BlueJay
Posted January 12, 2009 at 10:17 am | Permalink
Well let’s see what we got here.
Well we have okobserver/donndublin who figures her opinion has double the weight posted under two nics.
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LMAO I don’t need multiple nics like you do but you want to believe that like you do AGW to promote your socialist dictatorship, go ahead and spin your wheels junior, JR, BlueJay ect.
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fleettwood
Posted January 12, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink
“…so now must I too chuckle at them and take my leave.”
Leaving to cash your welfare check?
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BJ had to go make a score after he cashed it.
fleettwood
Posted January 12, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink
“…so now must I too chuckle at them and take my leave. Bluejay”
“Leaving to cash your welfare check?”
No, I think he has been up blogging all night (yesterday open thread):
XXX
Posted January 12, 2009 at 5:14 am | Permalink
“BlueJay
Posted January 11, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink
I do not agree with X’s post and happen to know that he aint hurting.
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BJ, you know nothing about my situation. If I was hurting, I wouldn’t cry about it all the time here. And if I’m not hurting, it’s because I’ve spent all my life working my way up the ladder.
Also, I get up every morning and go to a job. It’s easy if you don’t spend all night blogging.”
PS: I think welfare checks come the first of every month. Maybe now some good posting without all the fanfare?
HAMAS and ISRAEL .. For your learning pleasure .. that is .. for those brave enough to travel outside their liberal media box
http://www.hischannel.com/streambird/75/7501/vodtv.php
yall have a goodn
I’m sure that donndublin, bigotbawks, Pleefer, Hank, Nathaniel, and other AGW deniers will enjoy this column by the author of their AGW denial column, Gregory F. Fegel.
It’s in the Pravda, so it must be credible. /sarcasm OFF.
‘Impeachment is Not Enough‘
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/106172-september_11_attacks-0
“Indict all of the US government officials and their allies who planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks ”
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H/T to,
‘Remember when right-wingers didn’t trust Pravda?‘
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/01/remember_when_right-wingers_di.php
cosmos doesn’t have any credentials in climate science or in science either.
cosmos is a ‘hyperlinking’ fool.
It Don’t Add Up! [Marlo Lewis]
There’s been no net global warming in the 21st century. Although seldom reported by the mainstream media, it’s quite a story, because no climate model predicted it.
This graph, courtesy of atmospheric scientist John Christy, shows how climate models and reality diverge. The red, purple, and orange lines are model forecasts of global temperatures under different emission scenarios. The yellow line shows how much warming we are supposedly “committed to” even if CO2 concentrations don’t change. The blue and green lines are actual temperatures as measured by ground-based (HadCrut) and satellite (UAH LT) monitoring systems.
What’s really rather remarkable, is that since 2000, the rates at which CO2 emissions and concentrations are increasing have accelerated.
http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTYwMjRiZjJhMmUxYWE2MmQ0NDZhOGM0M2Q3ZWUzMmE=
Ad-hominem on Christy (or me) in three… two…
” And if I’m not hurting, it’s because I’ve spent all my life working my way up the ladder.
Also, I get up every morning and go to a job.”
It’s really amazing what one can accomplish if one is willing to put one’s nose to the grindstone for 45-50 years or so.
Much more fulfilling than being a bum and whining about it.
If you stole it or inherited it, you ain’t much.
If you worked for it, you have my respect.
“If you stole it or inherited it, you ain’t much.
If you worked for it, you have my respect.”—XXX
I didn’t inherit it, and I’m not rich, but ya know XXX, even if one does inherit it, they still have to have the where-with-all to keep it. And that takes something in and of itself.
Excellent Sol, good point to bring up and link!
If I might add: “Skeptics have long said climate models aren’t accurate enough to base policy decisions on. That may be truer now than ever.”
Same link as the one you provided Sol.
Youhoo, oh Youhoo, faux climate scientist, where are you when we need you? Hiding under your mothers bed again?
Amazing world we live in. Particularly America and our government. Here, one of the key leaders in Congress thwarted efforts years ago to put controls and regulations on Fannie Mae. He was instrumental in allowing NO new controls over mortgage loans. He was also one of those who pushed opening the market up to low income/no income buyers.
Now, he is the hero:
“NEW YORK (Fortune) — House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank promised to move quickly on a bill that promises $50 billion of foreclosure relief and toughens terms on companies getting taxpayer money.
Frank, D-Mass., said in a Capitol Hill press briefing that he and other congressional leaders have been working closely with the incoming Obama administration on plans to shift the focus of the government’s $700 billion financial bailout.
Frank said in a statement Friday that his legislation, due to be introduced this afternoon, “will strengthen accountability, close loopholes, increase transparency and require Treasury to take significant steps on foreclosure mitigation.”
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/09/news/economy/bailout_overhaul/index.htm?postversion=2009010915
And the rest of the story:
“Prominent Democrats ran Fannie Mae, the same government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) that donated campaign cash to top Democrats. And one of Fannie Mae’s main defenders in the House – Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., a recipient of more than $40,000 in campaign donations from Fannie since 1989 – was once romantically involved with a Fannie Mae executive.
The news media have covered the relationship in the past, but there have been no mentions since 2005, according to Nexis and despite the collapse of Fannie Mae. The July 3, 1998, Reliable Source column in The Washington Post reported Frank, who is openly gay, had a relationship with Herb Moses, an executive for the now-government controlled Fannie Mae. The column revealed the two had split up at the time but also said Frank was referring to Moses as his “spouse.” Another Washington Post report said Frank called Moses his “lover” and that the two were “still friends” after the breakup.
Frank was and remains a stalwart defender of Fannie Mae, which is now under FBI investigation along with its sister organization Freddie Mac, American International Group Inc. (NYSE:AIG) and Lehman Brothers (NYSE:LEH) – all recently participants in government bailouts. But Frank has derailed efforts to regulate the institution, as well as denying it posed any financial risk.
He has served on the committee since becoming a congressman in 1981 and became the ranking Democrat on the committee in 2003. He became chairman of the committee, now called the House Financial Services Committee, in 2007.
Moses was the assistant director for product initiatives at Fannie Mae and had been at the forefront of relaxing lending restrictions at the company for rural customers, according to the Feb. 23, 1998, issue of National Mortgage News (NMN).
“Herb Moses, who helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs, has left the mortgage industry,” Darryl Hicks wrote for NMN. “Mr. Moses – whose last day was Feb. 13 – spent the past seven years at Fannie Mae, most recently as director of housing initiatives. Over the course of time, he played an instrumental role in developing the company’s Title One and 203(k) home improvement lending programs.”
In 1991, Frank and former Rep. Joe Kennedy, D-Mass., lobbied for Fannie to soften rules on multi-family home mortgages although those dwellings showed a default rate twice that of single-family homes, according to the Nov. 22, 1991, Boston Globe.
BusinessWeek reported in its Nov. 14, 1994, issue that Fannie Mae called on Frank to exert his influence against a Housing & Urban Development proposal that would force the GSE to focus on minority and low-income buyers and police bias by lenders regardless of their location. Fannie Mae opposed HUD on the issue because it claimed doing so would “ignore the urban middle class.”
According to an article by Kathleen Day in the Oct. 8, 2003, Washington Post, Frank opposed giving the Bush administration the right to approve or disapprove business activities that “could pose risk to the taxpayers.” He told the Post he worried the Treasury Department “would sacrifice activities that are good for consumers in the name of lowering the companies’ market risks.”
Just a month before, Frank had aggressively thwarted reform efforts by the Bush administration. He told The New York Times on Sept. 11, 2003, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s problems were “exaggerated,” a gross miscalculation some five years later with costs estimated to be in the hundreds of billions.
“These two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” Frank said to the Times. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080924145932.aspx
‘Global Cooling: Deliberate lies or abject stupidity?‘
http://www.desmogblog.com/global-cooling-deliberate-lies-or-abject-stupidity
‘Drudge and Pravda: State-Owned Media Aligning Coverage‘
http://www.desmogblog.com/drudge-and-pravda-state-owned-media-aligning-coverage
And here is cosmos with his “credible” and “peer-reviewd” links to a blog.
LOL
Nathaniel,
Your gave your father a link to a column by Gregory F. Fegel, and he posted that link yesterday.
Do you agree with the other column by Gregory F. Fegel?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-112-4/#comment-501838
Cosmos,
No.
What does his opinion on the war have to do with the fraud of AGW?
Hank posted January 11, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Earth on the Brink of an Ice Age
http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/106922-earth_ice_age-0
From Nathan
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By the same author, Gregory F. Fegel.
‘Impeachment is Not Enough‘
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/106172-september_11_attacks-0
“Indict all of the US government officials and their allies who planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks ”
Cosmos,
Again, what does his opinion on the war have to do with the fraud of AGW?
Nathaniel posted January 12, 2009 at 11:48 am
Cosmos,
No.
What does his opinion on the war have to do with the fraud of AGW?
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Okay, so he is not credible when he says that the U.S. government caused 9/11, but he is 100% credible when he lies about AGW science?
Okay. . . I understand.
Cosmos,
Here are some of the speakers at the 2nd Annual International Conference on Climate Change coming up.
I suppose you will argue that they are all non-credible scientists who are liars?
William Gray, Colorado State University, leading researcher into tropical weather patterns.
Richard Lindzen, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, one of the world’s leading experts in dynamic meteorology, especially planetary waves.
Stephen McIntyre, primary author of Climate Audit, a blog devoted to the analysis and discussion of climate data. He is a devastating critic of the temperature record of the past 1,000 years, particularly the work of Michael E. Mann, creator of the infamous “hockey stick” graph. That graph–thoroughly discredited in scientific circles–supposedly proved that mankind is responsible for a sharp increase in earth temperatures.
Arthur Robinson, curator of a global warming petition signed by more than 32,000 American scientists, including more than 10,000 with doctorate degrees, rejecting the alarmist assertion that global warming has put the Earth in crisis and is caused primarily by mankind.
Willie Soon, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.
Roy Spencer, University of Alabama at Huntsville, principal research scientist and team leader on NASA’s Aqua satellite.
Cosmos,
I see that you still can’t do anything but attack people rather than the science.
What does his opinion on 9/11 have to do with the fraud of AGW?
Geezzz, amway, haven’t you figured out yet it was congress, both republican and democrat, as well as wall street, that did nothing to control the financial institutions. Republicans ran congress for how many years and did nothing; the democrats ran it for two years and did nothing. Get real: it was both parties, as well as the executive branch, that did nothing. Trying to place blame one party is ridiculous.
Gee, I wonder how man survived the meteor impact that wiped out all the dinoaurs?
-Mary
Gee, I wonder how man’s evolutionary ancestors survived the meteor impact that wiped out all of the dinosaurs?
Interesting huh?
Those ancestors were so backwards and weak that only the strongest survived to become human, yet they apparently had survivability skills greater then anything we can imagine today.
Perhaps, the evolutionary process is working backwards since even Mary agrees that man would go extinct if the same meteor impact that killed the dinasours would without doubt kill off all of mankind. Yet man’s ancesters are purported to have done just fine through the proposed meteor impact. IF they didn’t, there would not be any humans.
Evolution is quite the paradox isn’t it? Even it’s most agressive defenders can’t keep from contradicting themselves on every turn.
JM Walker,
And ignoring the hearings where the Republicans wanted to investigate while the ranking Democrats whined and blocked it?
There is far more to it than simply saying everyone is at fault.
There are definately those who had a vested interest in not stopping the fraud and corruption.
Nathaniel,
Gregory F. Fegel did lie about AGW science in his Pravda column. It’s EASY to see — just compare what he says to what the science says.
It’s interesting how Nathaniel ignores Fewgel’s 9/11 claims, but completely trusts his lies about climate science.
Hansen fudges the numbers. Top secret program to “correct” the data. Why won’t Hansen release the program and/or algorithm that decrease past temperatures and increase current temperatures? Thought science was supposed to be transparent?
And put pis$ poor station location on top of the mix.
norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/08/1998_no_longer_the_hottest_yea.html
Al Gore’s chief scientific ally caught fudging again
Filed Under Uncategorized
Glaring incompetence or deliberate disinformation? NASA’s Dr James Hansen who in June of this year said he would “call for the chief executives of large fossil fuel companies to be put on trial for high crimes against humanity and nature, accusing them of actively spreading doubt about global warming in the same way that tobacco companies blurred the links between smoking and cancer.” has been caught fudging climate change numbers again.
Shouldn’t Dr. Hansen turn himself in for trial and punishment as a repeat offender of the crime of misinformation, a crime of his own invention?
thenewliberty.com/?p=612
Nathaniel,
Hansen did lie about AGW science in his fudged data. It’s EASY to see — just compare what he says to what the science says.
It’s interesting how cosmos ignores hansen’s data lies, but completely trusts his lies about climate science.
sry, that was meant to be to cosmos…
Cosmos,
I just post links. I am pretty sure that I have not given one opinion of mine on what it said.
Yet you love your little strawman arguments where you aregue against something I never said.
You are a joke. You can’t even have a logical discussion. All you can do is post links to a blog and then you call that credible peer reviewed science.
You don’t discuss the science even when we post it.
All you can do is try to figure out something wrong with the source.
Even now, the best you can come up with is saying that this guy said something stupid about 9/11 when that has nothing to do with the subject.
What a joke you are. What a joke that you even think you can hold up in any discussion.
ROFLMAO! [link] = Ross Gelbspan a regular contributor to DeSmogBlog a journalist who claims he won a Pulitzer Prizein spite of the fact that he was never awarded the prize and the committee who awards the prize does not list Gelbspan as having won one.
Nathaniel if you wiki everyone one of your scientists you will find that all of them have taken $$$ from oil or mineral groups/companies.
Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming020507.htm
“Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn’t exist. And I am not the only one trying to make people open up their eyes and see the truth. But few listen, despite the fact that I was one of the first Canadian Ph.Ds. in Climatology and I have an extensive background in climatology, especially the reconstruction of past climates and the impact of climate change on human history and the human condition. Few listen, even though I have a Ph.D, (Doctor of Science) from the University of London, England and was a climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. For some reason (actually for many), the World is not listening. Here is why.”
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RFL….
THere were no humans or close human ancesstors during the K/T boundry…Marys comment was in jest. You though missed that I guess.
Davos,
And here you come along to prove that you can only look to attack the source and not the science.
When government funds only go to those who are on the side of AGW does that then mean that all the climate scientists who are part of the consensus are actually not credible either?
They are taking their money and funding from governments who have an agenda as well.
So why should we believe them either?
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DavosRancheros
Posted January 12, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink
RFL….
THere were no humans or close human ancesstors during the K/T boundry…Marys comment was in jest. You though missed that I guess.
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I thought extra-terrestrials took DNA samples back then.
Davos,
You really want to talk about money?
“The [climate] alarmists also enjoy a huge financial advantage over the skeptics with numerous foundations funding climate research, University research money and the United Nations endless promotion of the cause. Just how much money do the climate alarmists have at their disposal? There was a $3 billion donation to the global warming cause from Virgin Air’s Richard Branson alone. The well-heeled environmental lobbying groups have massive operating budgets compared to groups that express global warming skepticism. The Sierra Club Foundation 2004 budget was $91 million and the Natural Resources Defense Council had a $57 million budget for the same year. Compare that to the often media derided Competitive Enterprise Institute’s small $3.6 million annual budget. In addition, if a climate skeptic receives any money from industry, the media immediately labels them and attempts to discredit their work. The same media completely ignore the money flow from the environmental lobby to climate alarmists like James Hansen and Michael Oppenheimer. (ie. Hansen received $250,000 from the Heinz Foundation and Oppenheimer is a paid partisan of Environmental Defense Fund) The alarmists have all of these advantages, yet they still feel the need to resort to desperation tactics to silence the skeptics. (LINK) Could it be that the alarmists realize that the American public is increasingly rejecting their proposition that the family SUV is destroying the earth and rejecting their shrill calls for “action” to combat their computer model predictions of a ‘climate emergency?’”
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/sppi_ewire_8_21_2007/are_gore_and_newsweek
Sol,
Thanks for taking the time and doing the leg work on the bunk, fudged data climate science studies comatose keeps referring to like they are some kind of holy manuscripts.
Of course I guess they are to him that’s the only life he has.
I simply don’t have the interest and hence the motivation to take that time, other than reading articles that summarize it. But that doesn’t make an opinion less valuable, simply shows there is more to life than hysterical “the sky is falling” hysterics on the climate.
cosMo, uses non scientific environmental activist blogs, the policymakers (politicians) at the IPCC, debunked Mann’s “hockey stick graph” websites and other junk science sites to support his non scientific view (blind faith) that AGW is credible.
Cosmos Killing Planet Through Repetitive Internet Searches, Copy/Pastes, and WE Blog Postings!
But then, stopping Global Warming isn’t his true agenda anyway.
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5489134.ece
From The Sunday Times
January 11, 2009
Revealed: the environmental impact of Google searches
Physicist Alex Wissner-Gross says that performing two Google searches uses up as much energy as boiling the kettle for a cup of tea.
Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research.
While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2 Boiling a kettle generates about 15g. “Google operates huge data centres around the world that consume a great deal of power,” said Alex Wissner-Gross, a Harvard University physicist whose research on the environmental impact of computing is due out soon. “A Google search has a definite environmental impact.”
Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint. It also refuses to divulge the locations of its data centres. However, with more than 200m internet searches estimated globally daily, the electricity consumption and greenhouse gas emissions caused by computers and the internet is provoking concern.
A recent report by Gartner, the industry analysts, said the global IT industry generated as much greenhouse gas as the world’s airlines – about 2% of global CO2 emissions. “Data centres are among the most energy-intensive facilities imaginable,” said Evan Mills, a scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California. Banks of servers storing billions of web pages require power.
Though Google says it is in the forefront of green computing, its search engine generates high levels of CO2 because of the way it operates.
Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint.
Attack….um no…did I call them lying idiots or claim they were not scientists? No…but when you put faith in a group of scientist that have ties to special interests…you have think about that. There are fringe scientist on both sides. I was just pointing out that maybe you should read up on research done by more than the list of known skeptics of AGW.
Say Eagle, can we get a separate and permanent Global Warming/Socialist Wealth Redistribution topic?
“You really want to talk about money?
“The [climate] alarmists also enjoy a huge financial advantage over the skeptics with numerous foundations funding climate research, University research money and the United Nations endless promotion of the cause. “—Sol
And therein lies the rub!!! It’s all about the MONEY!!! And comatose can’t see through that, but responds like a hired and paid blogger on the subject. Comatose isn’t credible.
Cosmo,
You remind me of Chicken Little and the boy that cried wolf all wrapped up into one person. At least, I am supposing that you are one person. For all I know, due to the anonymity of this blog, you may be two or three people and spending the day carrying on your argument about AGW.
You’re a hoot…but, the spotted owl is another subject.
“THere were no humans or close human ancesstors during the K/T boundry…”
One of the animals alive during the K/T boundary had to a human ancestor.
Defending Evolution Rule #1:
When you realize that a stupid statement has been uttered in an attempted defense of the theory, claim that it was made in jest and assail the person bringing up the flaws as not getting the jest.
Looks like Obama is going to say EFF YOU to Boeing & Co.
(Obama doesn’t want an American jet.)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/12/usaf-looks-replace-air-force-possible-airbus/
USAF Looks to Replace Air Force One With Possible Airbus
The U.S. Air Force is searching for a replacement for Air Force One.
RFL….
What? (Confused look) Ok..dude. whatever. LOL
Nathaniel,
BEFORE the ice core data showed that the climb in CO2 levels lagged the temperature rises by about 800 years, scientists theorized that CO2 was a positive feedback that amplified the weak warming caused by orbital changes.
Fegel in his Pravda column claimed that the positive feedback theory was developed AFTER the ice core data showed the CO2 lag.
Nathaniel, was Fegel’s ‘AFTER’ claim accurate? It’s a simple question. Yes? No?
Why does hansen have to lie about temperature data?
Why does hansen refuse to release the code he uses to manipulate the data?
Why did hansen decrease the temperature data in the past and increase it for current times?
Dave,
Which organism alive during this K/T period which happen to survive this meteor impact (which killed off all of the dinosaurs) is the ancestor to the
modern day humans?
That was a mass extinction not a total extinction. Many organisms survived but more died.
SolDevVB,
After you finish attacking the GISS temperature data sets, you have to do the same for the other three data sets.
No, actually I don’t. I asked questions to which you clearly have no answer.
Yet you blindly believe the lies.
“That was a mass extinction not a total extinction. Many organisms survived but more died.”
Yes, at least something had to have survived.
Which one of these is the ancestor to the human?
SolDevVB,
You do have to attack the other 3 temperature data sets — they show basically the same data and trend as GISS.
And you still have no answers. How sad cosmos, where is your science?
Well I don’t know the exact one but I hear his name was Earl….he lived in what is now called Africa…he was a hppy organism now that the dinosaurs died….
Seriously
Dude that is not how evelution works man. Everything has a common someway however distant.
Sol, you link is now gone, perhaps scrubbed by AGW crowd.
Your statement also understates the advantage many of those same organizations have because they are tax exempt while fossil fuel industries are heavily taxed.
AGW strawman ExxonMobile payed record 2nd 1/4 2008 taxes.
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2008/07/exxon-posts-record-3236-billion-tax.html
Gays should be happy now.
Gay bishop gets role at Obama inauguration event
Reuters – 44 minutes ago
By Jason Szep BOSTON (Reuters) – An openly gay bishop will deliver a prayer for President-elect Barack Obama in an inauguration event on Sunday that could help defuse controversy over an anti-gay pastor who will give the main invocation.
(Enough Global Warming stuff. Time for the posts about Gays now.)
Look at that Great Socialist Model: Europe!
They have to BEG Russia for natural gas, because they are so weak!
I’m sure Obama will take care of Putin.
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssEnergyNews/idUSLC48809320090112
PRAGUE, Jan 12 (Reuters) – Leaders of four large European gas importers urged Russian export monopoly Gazprom (GAZP.MM) and Ukrainian state energy company Naftogaz on Monday to quickly restore gas deliveries to Europe.
Perhaps the Europeans can burn their carbon credit certificates for fuel?
JimJohnson
Posted January 12, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink
Cosmos Killing Planet Through Repetitive Internet Searches, Copy/Pastes, and WE Blog Postings!
But then, stopping Global Warming isn’t his true agenda anyway.
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Jim, cosMo is just like Algore a non scientist hypocrite who fanatically screams and flails his arms about AGW while making a bigger carbon footprint than all the critics combined.
Dude that is not how evelution works man. Everything has a common someway however distant.
Yeah, I know. Everything has a common ancestor because that is the theory of common descent. Therefore, Mankind must have a ancestor that relates back to the era of the Dinosaurs and beyond to the first simple cell organism.
Has such an organism ever been fossilized? Evidently not. Alligators are purported to be dinosaurs. Which means they surived what killed everthing else. So perhaps, perhaps there is an offshoot from the alligator responsible for all of mankind?
It’s just comforting to believe that the metor impact killed everthing but somehow at least something survived and out if this something, out popped mankind.
I like that way of thinking since it is so non-scientific and means I don’t have to think.
Political_mama
Posted January 11, 2009 at 7:32 pm | Permalink
Cosmos, quick, I’ve got a bunch of global warming deniers on another thread who say the proof that the earth is cooling is there.
I need some information on something I haven’t been following closely. I need indisputable links.
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Say Cosmos, did you ever rescue Pmomma?
Pmomma copies posts from Cosmos. Say Cosmos, who do you copy posts from? And who does that person copy posts from? How many copies removed are you from an actual source or do you just make this stuff up?
Gotta link or two?
BlueJay
Posted January 11, 2009 at 8:04 pm | Permalink
My attitude as to Israel continues to deteriorate.
They seem to be living as if they truly believe they are some sort of special people with the right to do whatever they want and treat their neighbors as poorly as they like.
I don’t like that tax dollars go to people like that.
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From the anti-semite who doesn’t pay any taxes. LOL!
RFL—
Non-scientific eh? Really? Whatever you say dude.
Nevermind the stratigraphic studies that have been done for hundreds of years. Phyiscal Athroplogical studies…you know the list can go on and on.
I am not really sure what idea you are trying to get across here, but I assume the term Intelligent design may pop up. I could be wrong.
Anyway Lunch is over later.
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Regular
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:01 pm | Permalink
Perhaps the Europeans can burn their carbon credit certificates for fuel?
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Those carbon credit certificates may soon replace the EURO.
JJ:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-0111/#comment-501432
XXX
Posted January 12, 2009 at 5:14 am | Permalink
BlueJay
Posted January 11, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink
I do not agree with X’s post and happen to know that he aint hurting.
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BJ, you know nothing about my situation. If I was hurting, I wouldn’t cry about it all the time here. And if I’m not hurting, it’s because I’ve spent all my life working my way up the ladder.
Also, I get up every morning and go to a job. It’s easy if you don’t spend all night blogging.
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BJ never answers XXX. Wonder why?
Regular
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:01 pm | Permalink
Perhaps the Europeans can burn their carbon credit certificates for fuel?
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Trade them for Gas Stamps?
“My attitude as to Israel continues to deteriorate.
They seem to be living as if they truly believe they are some sort of special people with the right to do whatever they want and treat their neighbors as poorly as they like.
I don’t like that tax dollars go to people like that. From the anti-semite who doesn’t pay any taxes.”—BlowJ
You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to conclude who causes the unrest in the Mid East, though BlowJ is still having lots of problems.
This has been posted before but it is striking in it’s impact and benefit to the world as a whole.
What would the world be like without these creative people.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEWS AND MUSLIMS
The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000
ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION – or 20% of the world’s population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 – Najib Mahfooz
Peace:
1978 – Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 – Yasser Arafat:
1990 – Elias James Corey
1999 – Ahmed Zewai
Economics: (zero)
Physics : (zero)
Medicine:
1960 – Peter Brian Medawar
1998 – Ferid Mourad
TOTAL : 7 SEVEN
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The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 FOURTEEN
MILLION or about 0.02% of the world’s population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 – Paul Heyse
1927 – Henri Bergs on
1958 – Boris Pasternak
1966 – Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 – Nelly Sachs
1976 – Saul Bellow
1978 – Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 – Elias Canetti
1987 – Joseph Brodsky
1991 – Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 – Alfred Fried
1911 – Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 – Rene Cassin
1973 – Henry Kissinger
1978 – Menachem Begin
1986 – Elie Wiesel
1994 – Shimon Peres
1994 – Yitzhak Rabin
Physics:
1905 – Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 – Henri Moissan
1907 – Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 – Gabriel Lippmann
1910 – Otto Wallach
1915 – Richard Willstaetter
1918 – Fritz Haber
1921 – Albert Einstein
1922 – Niels Bohr
1925 – James Franck
1925 – Gustav Hertz
1943 – Gustav Stern
1943 – George Charles de Hevesy
1944 – Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 – Felix Bloch
1954 – Max Born
1958 – Igor Tamm
1959 – Emilio Segre
1960 – Donald A. Glaser1961 – Robert Hofstadter
1961 – Melvin Calvin
1962 – Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 – Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 – Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 – Julian Schwinger
1969 – Murray Gell-Mann
1971 – Dennis Gabor
1972 – William Howard Stein
1973 – Brian David Josephson
1975 – Benjamin Mottleson
1976 – Burton Richter
1977 – Ilya Prigogine
1978 – Arno Allan Penzias
1978 – Peter L Kapitza
1979 – Stephen Weinberg
1979 – Sheldon Glashow
1979 – Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 – Paul Berg
1980 – Walter Gilbert
1981 – Roald Hoffmann
1982 – Aaron Klug
1985 – Albert A. Hauptman
1985 – Jerome Karle
1986 – Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 – Robert Huber
1988 – Leon Lederman
1988 – Melvin Schwartz
1988 – Jack Steinberger
1989 – Sidney Altman
1990 – Jerome Friedman
1992 – Rudolph Marcus
1995 – Martin Perl
2000 – Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 – Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 – Simon Kuznets
1972 – Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 – Leonid Kantorovich
1976 – Milton Friedman
1978 – Herbert A. Simon
1980 – Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 – Franco Modigliani
1987 – Robert M. Solow
1990 – Harry Markowitz
1990 – Merton Miller
1992 – Gary Becker
1993 – Robert Fogel
Medicine:
1908 – Elie Metchnikoff
1908 – Paul Erlich
1914 – Robert Barany
1922 – Otto Meyerhof
1930 – Karl Landsteiner
1931 – Otto Warburg
1936 – Otto Loewi
1944 – Joseph Erlanger
1944 – Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 – Ernst Boris Chain
1946 – Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 – Tadeus Reichstein
1952 – Selman Abra ham Waksman
1953 – Hans Krebs
1953 – Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 – Joshua Lederberg
1959 – Arthur Kornberg
1964 – Konrad Bloch
1965 – Francois Jacob
1965 – Andre Lwoff
1967 – George Wald
1968 – Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 – Salvador Luria
1970 – Julius Axelrod
1970 – Sir Bernard Katz
1972 – Gerald Maurice Edelm an
1975 – Howard Martin Temin
1976 – Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 – Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 – Daniel Nathans
1980 – Baruj Benacerraf
1984 – Cesar Milstein
1985 – Michael Stuart Brown
1985 – Joseph L.. Goldstein
1986 – Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 – Gertrude Elion
1989 – Harold Varmus
1991 – Erwin Neher
1991 – Bert Sakmann
1993 – Richard J. Roberts
1993 – Phillip Sharp
1994 – Alfred Gilman
1995 – Edward B. Lewis
TOTAL: 129 ONE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE !
The Jews are not promoting brain washing the children in military
training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause
maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!
The Jews don’t hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics or blow
themselves up in German restaurants. There is not a single Jew that has
destroyed a church. There is not a single Jew that protests by killing
people.
The Jews don’t traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and
death to all the Infidels.
Perhaps the world’s Muslims should consider investing more in standard
education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.
Muslims must ask ‘what can they do for humankind’ before they demand
that humankind respects them!!
Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the
Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more
culpability on Israel ’s part, the following two sentences really say it
all:
‘If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel .’ (Benjamin Netanyahu)
So. . .Cosmos, got any ’science’ that proves the temperature hasn’t been going down for the last ten years?
Gosh Amway, I missed your post yesterday on Google Searches causing Global Warming. (As shown by reviewing ice core samples.)
And all these repeat postings cause even MORE GLOBAL WARMING!
HLP
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:21 pm | Permalink
So. . .Cosmos, got any ’science’ that proves the temperature hasn’t been going down for the last ten years?
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Hank, YOU KNOW Global Warming is causing the cooling.
I’m not trying to get across anything. Just asking simple questions.
It does not answer anything to assume that the theory of common descent is fact yet not be able provide a phylogenitic lineage for human beings that connects even indirectly to an organism alive during the era of dinosaurs.
So many Gaps, so much Faith.
And all these repeat postings cause even MORE GLOBAL WARMING!
I googled that (twice). You are correct.
I think that is why they are no longer calling it AGW, rather “climate change”
Next it will be called ACC.
blah blah blah Global warming blah blah blah
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JimJohnson
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Permalink
XXX
Posted January 12, 2009 at 5:14 am | Permalink
BlueJay
Posted January 11, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink
I do not agree with X’s post and happen to know that he aint hurting.
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BJ, you know nothing about my situation. If I was hurting, I wouldn’t cry about it all the time here. And if I’m not hurting, it’s because I’ve spent all my life working my way up the ladder.
Also, I get up every morning and go to a job. It’s easy if you don’t spend all night blogging.
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BJ never answers XXX. Wonder why?
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But BJ will accuse him of having multiple nics.
They will be crying about how there is too much ice and the polar bears can’t catch any fish….
Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!! I’m on fire!!!!!!!!darned global warming!!!!!!
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
blah blah blah Global warming blah blah blah
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brian, is it over your head?
My can of Pepsi is hot…must be due to office warming…
You AGW deniers are doing a great job proving that you cannot refute the solid scientific consensus formed from decades of intensive, expensive, worldwide research.
Keep up the good work!
Also, try to randomly mix your various attacks, so it’s less obvious that you’re stuck in an endless loop.
Sure Climate Change, although Climate has been Changing since the first days of the Earth, NOW all of a sudden the Change is being caused by Man.
And if it gets Hotter, it’s Man’s fault.
If it gets Colder, it’s Man’s fault.
Either way, it’s a great ruse to try to justify their Socialist Government Controlling programs.
The Believers are like a bunch of Buffalo being run off the cliff. And the Propagators are waiting like sharks in bloody waters to scoop up the spoils of their Global Warming “solutions”.
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
blah blah blah Global warming blah blah blah
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another example of how brian has a hard time writing an entire paragraph much less a sentence.
donndublin
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:43 pm | Permalink
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
blah blah blah Global warming blah blah blah
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another example of how brian has a hard time writing an entire paragraph much less a sentence.”
hey donnie… pheck off
Nathaniel
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink
They will be crying about how there is too much ice and the polar bears can’t catch any fish….
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The Russian oil rigs in the Arctic will make enough holes in the ice to save the Polar Bears.
You AGW Chicken Littles are doing a great job proving that you cannot refute the solid scientific consensus formed from decades of intensive, expensive, worldwide research showing that Humans are not causing any catasrophic Global Warming.
Keep up the good work!
Also, try to randomly mix your various attacks, so it’s less obvious that you’re stuck in an endless loop.
Interesting collection of Chicago mug shots.
Catch their tee shirts, ha…..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3Qo-Fn3Eicw/SWYNqPmceDI/AAAAAAAASEo/xfY5nSxk5PM/s1600-h/Mugs.bmp
cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:41 pm | Permalink
You AGW deniers are doing a great job proving that you cannot refute the solid scientific consensus…
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And you still can’t come up with a reason that hansen keeps his temperature data fudging code secret. Does that mean it has not (gasp) been peer reviewed?
As per refuting the scientific concensus[sic], how about 8 years of cooling.
Nathaniel posted January 12, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I think that is why they are no longer calling it AGW, rather “climate change”
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2 points to the AGW denier team, for suggesting that the term “climate change” was formed recently, not way back in 1979!
http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2008/12/a_history_of_names_1.html
Come on AGW deniers! Suggest some more falsehoods! You can win!!!!
cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:41 pm | Permalink
You AGW deniers are doing a great job proving that you cannot refute the solid scientific consensus formed from decades of intensive, expensive, worldwide research.
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ROFLMAO- You AGW fanatics are doing a great job of proving you are zealous for junk scientific bogus consensus formed by a decade of selective research, by tax exempt profiteers and worldwide socialist power mongers.
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:44 pm | Permalink
donndublin
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:43 pm | Permalink
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
blah blah blah Global warming blah blah blah
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another example of how brian has a hard time writing an entire paragraph much less a sentence.”
hey donnie… pheck off
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There you go again brian, stepping in your own $hit.
Is hansen’s code/algorithm peer reviewed?
SolDevVB posted January 12, 2009 at 1:51 pm
As per refuting the scientific concensus[sic], how about 8 years of cooling.
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And Sol sneaks around the defense. . . and he again tries the old, well-known, worn out play known as
‘Stupid is as stupid does‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/12/31/stupid-is-as-stupid-does/
Awwwwww. . . too bad. Sol didn’t score any points.
Better luck next time, Sol!
(Sol is infamous for trying ’stupid’ plays)
My fart was so hot it was visible outside.
Global warming?
Still don’t have an answer do you cosmos?
No wait. My fart was not visible, because the surrounding air was not as dense and warmer.
Global Warming.
JimJohnson: Does that bastion of capitism America, have to “beg” Canada (big, cold and no doubt another bunch of damn socialsits) for her electicity that keeps the lights on in the North East, her natural gas that heats or homes or beg her to stay our number one source for oil? (Mexico is no. 2).If they turned off or geared down their energy exports, it would be a helluva problem, so how is that different than Europe and imports from Russia? Nathaniel: Canadian Free Press as a source? They’re laughable and not taken serioulsy, but then sources usually relied on by riech wingers speaks to desperation.
More prof that cosMo does not understand science or the links he posts.
“–This term was used during most of the 1970’s because scientists did not know if the future direction of climate modificate was up or down, since man-made aerosols might cause cooling.
–This term was basically abandoned in 1979.”
The scare: On 2 January 2009, the Wall Street Journal wrote one of a series of articles
apparently co-ordinated throughout the generally alarmist news media throughout the
holiday season, trying to overcome the problem posed for “global warming” alarmists by the
fact that global mean surface temperatures have been on a downtrend for eight straight years
(Figure 1):
Graph at link.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/scarewatch/really_cooling.pdf
Also, try to randomly mix your various attacks, so it’s less obvious that you’re stuck in an endless loop.—comatose
WHO IS STUCK IN AN ENDLESS LOOP….you comatose, you!!!
Intensive & Expensive, but what about: Active, Captive, Motive, and Massive?
More adjectives makes for better research!
Oh gosh, here is comatose’s story. Read it is really is. The names were changed, but just sub in ‘comatose’ and for the climate change folks, just call them Algore.
http://eleaston.com/chicken.html
In desperation, donndublin tries the sympathy play:
“It’s NOT fair! Your side got MUCH more money, and did MUCH, MUCH more scientific research, for a MUCH longer time than our side!
Ugggh. . . donndublin gets sacked way behind the line. That didn’t work at all. Fans on BOTH sides are pointing and laughing at him as he walks slowly back to the bench.
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donndublin posted January 12, 2009 at 1:56 pm
AROFLMAO- You AGW fanatics are doing a great job of proving you are zealous for junk scientific bogus consensus formed by a decade of selective research, by tax exempt profiteers and worldwide socialist power mongers.
You mean the James Hansen whose software code is so robust and whose algorithms are so sound that he is 99% certain that we’re all doomed?
Luckily for the real world, Steve McIntyre has been doing yeoman’s work analysing Hansen’s code:
Here are some more notes and scripts in which I’ve made considerable progress on GISS Step 2. As noted on many occasions, the code is a demented mess – you’d never know that NASA actually has software policies (e.g. here or here . I guess that Hansen and associates regard themselves as being above the law. At this point, I haven’t even begum to approach analysis of whether the code accomplishes its underlying objective. There are innumerable decoding issues – John Goetz, an experienced programmer, compared it to descending into the hell described in a Stephen King novel. I compared it to the meaningless toy in the PPM children’s song – it goes zip when it moves, bop when it stops and whirr when it’s standing still. The endless machinations with binary files may have been necessary with Commodore 64s, but are totally pointless in 2008.
Because of the hapless programming, it takes a long time and considerable patience to figure out what happens when you press any particular button. The frustrating thing is that none of the operations are particularly complicated.
There’s much more of that at Climateaudit, one of the most important sites on the web today in the field of climate science.
I’m finally stating to come up for air after dealing with the fetid grubs and maggots of Hansen’s code. Needless to say, key steps are not mentioned in the underlying publications, Hansen et al 1999, 2001. I’m not going to discuss these issues today. Instead, I want to show 3 case studies where I’ve been successful in replicating the Hansen adjustment. In the more than 20 years since Hansen and Lebedeff 1987 and the nearly 10 years since Hansen et al 1999, to my knowledge, no third party has ever examined Hansen’s adjustments to see if they make any sense in individual cases. Some of the adjustments are breathtakingly bizarre. Hansen says that he doesn’t “joust with jesters”. I guess he wants center stage all to himself for his own juggling act.
NASA recently had to correct an error in Hansen’s work after McIntyre pointed out an error. The result was that the warmest year in the US record now belongs to 1934 not 1998.
The fact is that Hansen has been fudging the temperature data for many years and the consequence has been to increase apparent recent warming.
http://ker-plunk.blogspot.com/2008/06/its-time-to-put-james-hansen-on-trial.html
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Is hansen’s code peer reviewed?
Oh, and make sure you read the last line about what happened to the climate change hysterics. It is telling!!!
http://eleaston.com/chicken.html
sursum
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:06 pm | Permalink
so how is that different than Europe and imports from Russia?
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But I thought Socialism was THE answer!?
And if we had true Capitalism in America, we would have how much more production of oil, gas, and alternative energy in America? Government regulation curbs production.
And you want MORE regulation.
“donndublin
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
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There you go again brian, stepping in your own $hit.”
Oh yeah? How’s that?
And the referee calls a penalty on the AGW denier team, for bigotbawk’s repeated use of ad hominems, at 2:11 and 2:16 pm.
And the referee calls a 5 yard delay of game penalty — Is hansen’s code peer reviewed?
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:23 pm | Permalink
And the referee calls a penalty on the AGW denier team, for bigotbawk’s repeated use of ad hominems, at 2:11 and 2:16 pm.
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If that’s the case cosMo, you fouled out looooooong ago.
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc
/historical02.jsp
Where’s your explanation of this down trend? It’s from one of your links.
Keep up the good work AGW deniers! You can win, if you just keep posting here on the WE Blog!
Prove that your hatred of carbon taxes is stronger than decades of scientific climate research!
For all those who said that no towns could get their electricity from wind power —- You all better tell the town of Jetmore, KS, that they must be liars…. They are just about ready to throw the switch, and power all of the town’s electricity from wind turbines….
JR said something like “Bring It On”. Libs lookin for an economic war?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
DECEMBER 29, 2008
As if Things Weren’t Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S.
In Moscow, Igor Panarin’s Forecasts Are All the Rage; America ‘Disintegrates’ in 2010.
Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces — with Alaska reverting to Russian control.
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He based the forecast on classified data supplied to him by FAPSI analysts, he says. He predicts that economic, financial and demographic trends will provoke a political and social crisis in the U.S. When the going gets tough, he says, wealthier states will withhold funds from the federal government and effectively secede from the union. Social unrest up to and including a civil war will follow. The U.S. will then split along ethnic lines, and foreign powers will move in.
California will form the nucleus of what he calls “The Californian Republic,” and will be part of China or under Chinese influence. Texas will be the heart of “The Texas Republic,” a cluster of states that will go to Mexico or fall under Mexican influence. Washington, D.C., and New York will be part of an “Atlantic America” that may join the European Union. Canada will grab a group of Northern states Prof. Panarin calls “The Central North American Republic.” Hawaii, he suggests, will be a protectorate of Japan or China, and Alaska will be subsumed into Russia.
“It would be reasonable for Russia to lay claim to Alaska; it was part of the Russian Empire for a long time.” A framed satellite image of the Bering Strait that separates Alaska from Russia like a thread hangs from his office wall. “It’s not there for no reason,” he says with a sly grin.
Interest in his forecast revived this fall when he published an article in Izvestia, one of Russia’s biggest national dailies. In it, he reiterated his theory, called U.S. foreign debt “a pyramid scheme,” and predicted China and Russia would usurp Washington’s role as a global financial regulator.
Americans hope President-elect Barack Obama “can work miracles,” he wrote. “But when spring comes, it will be clear that there are no miracles.”
Didn’t think you knew cosmos, or are you too embarrassed to admit the truth?
How Energy Independent would 6 Fractured America’s be if Alaska went to Russia, and CA/TX went to Mexico?
Chas
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
For all those who said that no towns could get their electricity from wind power —- You all better tell the town of Jetmore, KS, that they must be liars…. They are just about ready to throw the switch, and power all of the town’s electricity from wind turbines….
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Who paid for it?
And cosMo get’s slam dunked again and again and again………………………
And the AGW deniers get a penalty. . . for donndublin’s copy/pasting a broken link.
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/historical03.jsp
Boxlock” Don’t you think the lack of opportunity to achieve may be at the root of the Islamic angst, for Muslim immigrant kids do very well in school. Remember, no Catholics were in the first crop of NASA scientists or astronauts and the reason lay in the fact most Catholic Colleges did not stress engineering as much as elsewhere. Islam has been the servant of and exploited by the west cruelly, not being allowed to rise and we’re seeing the results now. Remember it was Islam that taught Europe everything she needed to escape the Dark Ages. Given time and opportunity we will see a difference in the lists you posted, which by the way missed the problem and disguised reality with a useless litany.
SolDevVB,
Sorry. . . there’s no more soup for you today.
Say Chas, what percentage of Jetmore’s power will come from wind?
Truth hurts you cosmos. Shame you refuse to admit it. Shame you can’t say that hansen’s number fudging code is as much of a farce as AGW.
It isn’t peer reviewed cosmos. It doesn’t even have quality control.
First Gore, then the IPCC, now hansen. Where ever will you run next?
Who cares, Johnson?? Who pays your electric bill, dimwit??
Sol?? Just what is it that gets you so appoplectic about Gore??
chas,
Just what is it that makes you type in all caps?
Sol = TROLL for the day LOL
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:33 pm | Permalink
And the AGW deniers get a penalty. . . for donndublin’s copy/pasting a broken link.
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/historical03.jsp
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More prof of the cherry picking tactic used by AGW fanatics. He changes to the shorter time period to from his link to falsify his claim and ignores the the longer time period from the same link which show just the opposite.
You’re out of the game dude.
Chas
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
For all those who said that no towns could get their electricity from wind power —- You all better tell the town of Jetmore, KS, that they must be liars…. They are just about ready to throw the switch, and power all of the town’s electricity from wind turbines….
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The answer, which Chas cannot provide, is 12 percent.
12 percent of Jetmore’s 933 residents energy will come from windpower.
BFD Chas. 12%. And at what cost?
You point out how great this is Chas, now tell us how much the people of Jetmore will pay for this Wind Power!
Sol, why dont you b it ch about RoaCH’s all caps from his meltdown last night?? You only b it ch about my caps… Hmmmmm….
CON caps = good
LIB caps = bad
Well, from the radio news report this morning, it would look to be significantly less than being on the grid…
What 12% are you talking about??
chas,
was I on last night? Dumbass
JimJohnson: Did I propose regualations or socialism? Methinks you don’t….think that is.
SolDevVB,
I already TOLD you. . . you should also attack the other temperature data sets.
You haven’t TOLD me anything about hansen’s non-peer reviewed spaghetti code.
Chas
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
Well, from the radio news report this morning, it would look to be significantly less than being on the grid…
What 12% are you talking about??
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Chas is unable to follow a very simple train of thought.
Chas, don’t let the facts get in the way of your aenda.
Sol, you mean you cant look up last night’s thread, and look for yourself?? You seem quite capable of going back and looking up anything else you want to spew forth about… Good grief… I think you might be the dumba$$ here…. I mean, since you started picking me apart right off the bat…
Regardless of the mindless bickering over who’s the biggest a-ho..
Twelve percent of a small town’s electrical supply from wind is a nice small step forward. Bravo…
http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2009/01/12/daily3.html
So, Johnson, what 12% are you whining about??
Or dont you know?? Just like to use percentages or what?? LOL
Speaking of looking back, chas:
1) You wrote to me first.
2) Why on earth would I want to look at yesterday’s thread?
3) Your history of all caps is amazing, but, yeah, let’s take one instance of another poster having a -stroke moment-
You are laughable.
Sol, I believe cosMo just fouled out.
The AGW deniers get a penalty. . . for donndublin’s use of a completely unintelligible play that caused everyone to yell “WHAT?!?!”
donndublin posted January 12, 2009 at 2:43 pm
He changes to the shorter time period to from his link to falsify his claim and ignores the the longer time period from the same link which show just the opposite.
OK Johnson… your 12% figure was from WAY back in June, 2008… TODAY’s news report is that they are going to get all of their electricity from wind turbines…. This is now January, not June, idiot…
Why would you trust hansen and non-peer reviewed code cosmos?
Oh, that’s right, because he is one of the mouth pieces for your religion.
Gonna be hard for you to constantly attack the credentials and peer reviewed status of future postings cosmos.
What happens when the wind doesn’t blow, Chas.?
Chas
Posted January 12, 2009 at 3:01 pm | Permalink
OK Johnson… your 12% figure was from WAY back in June, 2008… TODAY’s news report is that they are going to get all of their electricity from wind turbines…. This is now January, not June, idiot…
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Link?
100% from wind you say Chas?
And the AGW denier player SolDevVB is throwing a temper-tantrum on the sideline. . . because he does not know how to read Fortran.
One instance??? yea, right…. And hey, ya know… what the sam hill is your problem with caps, anyway…. I think some of you idiots just like to have something to b it ch about, when lacking other things to post…
And, some people… like my wife, who are visually impaired, can read CAPS better….
And why the heck didnt you ever make fun of Regular when he had a stroke?? Is it just because I am a Lib??? Huh???
You reich wingers are all nuts!! I think I have had it with all of you….
HLP
Posted January 12, 2009 at 3:04 pm | Permalink
What happens when the wind doesn’t blow, Chas.?
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Chas will wet his lips, pucker up, and blowwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 3:04 pm | Permalink
And the AGW denier player SolDevVB is throwing a temper-tantrum on the sideline. . . because he does not know how to read Fortran.
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LMFAO —
I cut my teeth on FORTRAN and PASCAL. Try again.
The fact that hansen’s code is not peer reviewed – doesn’t matter to cosmos. Guess she won’t be asking for peer review status of future posts.
The fact that the code hansen released requires a 15 year out of date compiler – doesn’t matter to cosmos.
The fact that the code hansen released is not the same source code used by hansen – doesn’t matter to cosmos.
What does hansen have to hide?
Why do you use double standards?
The Wichita Business Journal says 12% by the end of this month. Dated 12 Jan 2009
And why the heck didnt you ever make fun of Regular when he had a stroke??
Because Regular never lied and stated that the reason he types on all caps was due to his stroke.
Chas you said “they are going to get all of their electricity from wind turbines”.
100% from wind Chas?
How long have these towers been operating?
How much did the towers cost to bring X% of electricity to how many homes?
Chas is obviously LYING again about Jetmore, KS getting 100% of its electricity from wind.
(That’s why he disapeared.)
Nah,
He’s emailing his buddies for support.
What was the cost/benefit of Jetmore’s windmills which produce 12% of the electricty needs for 933 residents?
If wind power is so great, why doesn’t every town use wind power?
Chas, how much more do the people of Jetmore have to pay to get 12% of their electricty from windpower vs the coal power that provides 88% of their electricity?
SolDevVB
Posted January 12, 2009 at 3:15 pm | Permalink
Nah,
He’s emailing his buddies for support.
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Throwing out a lifeline.
Privately, his buddies are tellin him he effed up again.
JimJohnson: Had enough time to consider if American imports from Canada ARE different than European imports from Russia for energy needs? I figured you needed to buy time and just regurgitaged the “socialists- government-control” mantra reich winger use when their hubris is confronted with reality.
“uhm… i’d like to use my ‘phone a friend’…”
“Sorry chas, no one answered the call…”
So if 12% of the electricty comes from wind, what percentage of total ENERGY use comes from wind?
You’d have to factor in Natural Gas or Propane into the equation.
So in terms of Total Energy required for 933 people in Jetmore, wind power must provide something like 6% of the total energy required, huh Chas?
Chas, you are always good for a laugh!
Thanks little buddy!
Cosmos writes, “ROFLMAO- You AGW fanatics are doing a great job of proving you are zealous for junk scientific bogus consensus formed by a decade of selective research, by tax exempt profiteers and worldwide socialist power mongers.”
Cosmos I’m still waiting for you to disprove Douglass’s papers. So far he has you bested. You have had most of the day and still no credible source to disprove what he said about global warming being ridiculous.
He has a Phd from MIT and is widely published in his field.
SolDevVB,
Are you volunteering to update and thoroughly test the code, so it does not require the old compiler? If so, that’s very generous of you to do all of that work. For free of course.
So assuming 466 houses for the 933 people of Jetmore, and $150/month for gas & electric, that’s $1,800 per year for energy costs per home in Jetmore.
If wind provides 6%, then the homeowner saves $9/month (or $108/year) in gas & electric costs, but pays how much for the wind power? Do they pay more or less then $9/month for the wind power?
The sky is falling, the sky is falling…darn it, it was a bird. I’m sure glad that dinosaurs don’t fly.
Gee. Kansas has a lot of wind. We’re the Saudi Arabia of wind power.
Now if there were just some workers and companies around here with experience in shaping lightweight metals and manufacturing propeller-shaped things.
sursum
Posted January 12, 2009 at 3:17 pm | Permalink
JimJohnson: Had enough time to consider if American imports from Canada ARE different than European imports from Russia for energy needs?
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JimJohnson
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
sursum
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:06 pm | Permalink
so how is that different than Europe and imports from Russia?
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So you admit Socialism is NOT THE answer.
And if we had true Capitalism in America, we would have how much more production of oil, gas, and alternative energy in America? Government regulation curbs production.
And you want MORE regulation.
And you see no difference between Canada and Russia? That says a lot.
Hansen gets $270,000 from Kerry and he needs little old me to rewrite his code? Yeah I could do it, but a) he couldn’t afford me and b) I won’t write code that purposefully produces false data.
How long has Hansen been at this? And he still uses spaghetti code.
Was it that same spaghetti code that predicted a new ice age?
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“NASA scientist James E. Hansen, who has publicly criticized the Bush administration for dragging its feet on climate change and labeled skeptics of man-made global warming as distracting “court jesters,” appears in a 1971 Washington Post article that warns of an impending ice age within 50 years.
“U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming,” blares the headline of the July 9, 1971, article, which cautions readers that the world “could be as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age, a leading atmospheric scientist predicts.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/sep/19/inside-the-beltway-69748548/
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Looks like he had it right the first time around, but of course, back then that was where the money was. Seems to be in “warming” now.
okobserver tries the desperation play again — insisting that ALL scientific papers are EQUALLY credible, even the papers that are VERY inconclusive because of data problems and too short a time interval.
Ugggghh. . . she gets sacked way behind the line for a large loss of yards.
(It’s rumoured that as a student, okobserver used to demand that her teachers give all students ‘A+’ grades, regardless of the quality of their work)
okobserver posted January 12, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Cosmos I’m still waiting for you to disprove Douglass’s papers. So far he has you bested. You have had most of the day and still no credible source to disprove what he said about global warming being ridiculous.
Jetmore’s looking at a 7 yr. payback, not too shabby.
Sure Phantom, but their operations contract only runs for 5 years. So, who’s to say what the cost is in year 6 and 7?
Also, those were USED wind towers from California. (Not green enough for California.) So how long will those towers last? Will they survive tornadic winds?
Oh, and btw Chas, the towers are NOT YET operational today.
“Do they pay more or less then $9/month for the wind power?”
Two towers, $250,000 each: the towers are projected to pay for themselves in seven years if energy cost remain the same.
2:30 to 3:04.
It was a very brief, however, very enjoyable visit from Chas today.
I’m sure he’ll be back later, after he gets kicked out of the bar.
If there are 466 homes, paying $9/month for the wind energy, the $250,000 cost (which is not the fully loaded cost, does not include connections to the grid, and does not include depreciation, or interest loss on the $250,000.) would be paid for in 5 years.
AFTER 5 years, then the 466 homeowners would START saving $9 per month.
But that doesn’t include the other costs mentioned above. Interest loss of $250,000 for 5 years even at a measley 3% would be another $40,296.
Insurance expense? How much is insurance on the two towers each year?
Or is the city self-insuring these? That is, if destroyed by fire, wind, lightning, or tornados, the city goes back to all coal OR pays for NEW windmills.
How much is the insurance vs new windmills? Or maybe the city gambles, and goes without insurance. Sure, the Feds would pay for any natural disaster right? And the Fed money is FREE money.
SolDevVB,
Let’s say that you write some general purpose code that analyses data.
Then two scientists use your code to analyse their data set.
Does the fact that you wrote the code mean that you are also an author of their paper, and that you personally agree with their conclusions?
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/09/to_rasool.php
Coal and gas plants aren’t self sustaining either, and I imagine subject to more repairs and depreciation.
Sometime I probably was taught this but it’s among the many other trivial and important things I’ve forgotten over the years.
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On Jan. 20, Barack Obama will be sworn in as our nation’s 44th president — but he’ll only be the 43rd person to occupy the office. Grover Cleveland served two non-consecutive terms, making him both our 22nd and our 24th presidents.
Hud
Posted January 12, 2009 at 3:41 pm | Permalink
“Do they pay more or less then $9/month for the wind power?”
Two towers, $250,000 each: the towers are projected to pay for themselves in seven years if energy cost remain the same.
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Oh, ok. They don’t save a dime then until at least 2016.
Course the operations contract expires in 2014, and who knows what the renewal cost would be or if any company would be willing to renew the contract.
Hansen wrote his own non-peer reviewed code. Hansen refuses to release the original code. Hansen’s code produces false data – read the warmest year being 1934 as opposed to 1998 – and hansen has little if any quality control.
Yet hansen has the ear of the senate. Bogus data, bogus reports.
And you still can’t answer why hansen’s code is not peer reviewed.
Chas
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
For all those who said that no towns could get their electricity from wind power —- You all better tell the town of Jetmore, KS, that they must be liars…. They are just about ready to throw the switch, and power all of the town’s electricity from wind turbines….
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At what cost?
Towns could also get energy from solar power, but at what cost?
Towns could also be powered by methane from sewage plants (an excess exists near Chas’ house) but at what cost?
And 6% Chas. Really 6% of their energy from wind. BFD. That’s window dressing to pacify you GW Alarmists. Makes you feel good all over, doesn’t it?
Here is Hansens’s source code:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/sources/
That isn’t the original source code. You can see that by the time stamp on the files.
Nathan whines,
“Maggotpunk,
I am simply amazed! Why would anyone still be studying Evolution or Dinosaurs? Don’t they know that it is all a proven fact which is irrefutable?”
Because, unlike you, some people aren’t satisfied with the notion that a magically sky daddy did everything and contained all knowledge in the bible. And yes, the fact that dinosaurs did exist is irrefutable, no matter how much creationists deny reality.
SolDevVB,
Your hatred of Dr. Hansen, like your hatred of Al Gore is funny (and pathetic).
You complain about UHI corrupting GISS data, AND you complain because GISS corrected data to remove UHI and other problems.
You don’t seem to understand that 1934 and 1998 are a statistical tie (for the U.S. lower 48 data).
You don’t seem to understand that the 1999 corrections to the U.S. data cause no significant change globally.
You ignore the fact that GISS closely matches the other data sets, and attack only GISS.
You ignore the fact that other indicators (snow cover, vegetation, etc) show the same trend as the temperature data sets.
JimJohnson
Posted January 12, 2009 at 3:38 pm | Permalink
Oh, and btw Chas, the towers are NOT YET operational today.
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No siht sherlock…. And I didnt say they were operational today… nimrod!!
That isn’t the original source code. You can see that by the time stamp on the files.
(Shrug)
So you’re arguing that code that’s supposedly never been reviewed has been somehow also shown to perpetuate a fraud. That’s logically equivalent to arguing that Bigfoot must exist because we haven’t seen any evidence refuting the proposition.
Either Hansen cooked the code or we don’t know. It can’t be both. You really need to make up your mind. But the fact that you can simultaneously assert both speaks volumes about your own reasoning.
For my part, I care more the actual science, which is what people are arguing about now, and for which the source code used is readily avaiable.
Chas
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
For all those who said that no towns could get their electricity from wind power —- You all better tell the town of Jetmore, KS, that they must be liars…. They are just about ready to throw the switch, and power all of the town’s electricity from wind turbines….
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I already said I heard iton the radio news… You want to argue about it, call KFDI news — BTW, KFDI is a conservative rdio statiion… NOT a liberal one… I listen to it for the music, not the politics…
Buris is approved for seating.
An undercover investigation by pro-lifers shows that Tiller’s criminal late-term Wichita abortion mill is continuing to violate state laws regarding banned post-viable abortions, by falsifying fetal gestation age and viability. A pregnant volunteer, proven by sonograms to be 24 weeks and 6 days pregnant, a healthy mother and healthy baby, posed in October, 2008 as a candidate for abortion. Tiller’s staff falsified the baby’s gestation age as 23 weeks and scheduled the volunteer for a post-viable abortion without any exam or interview by a second quack, as required by state law. Tiller employees Diane Warren (in a recorded phone conversation) and Lindsey Alejandro (in falsifying sonogram results) in particular misrepresented the requirements of state laws to the supposed abortion candidate in order to collect the high profit from scheduling the illegal high-risk post-viable abortion. This is also a violation of a woman’s right to informed consent.
Of course, even amateur college girls with hidden cameras are able to collect criminal evidence against various abortion mills, including Planned Parenthood, that continue flagrant violations of state laws, causing horrible embarrassment to our law enforcement and criminal justice and medical oversight agencies for their neglect of their duty to enforce state laws and prevent criminal abuses and exploitations of our citizens.
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Senate majority leader Harry Reid has introduced Senate Bill 21, “The Prevention First Act” to more than double taxpayer funding to Planned Parenthood, and also promotes comprehensive sex education and Plan B morning-after abortifacients, forcing hospitals receiving any federal funds to dispense the dangerous drug. Plan B sales will stuff huge profits into Planned Parenthood coffers.
The abortion industry already collects over $286 million each year of your federal tax money, plus some of your state tax money.
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Senator David Vitter, a pro-life Louisiana Republican, has filed a bill in the new session of the Senate that would strike the federal funding from Planned Parenthood. However, the measure likely will not get a vote because abortion mill profits are the favorite cash cow for Democrats.
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Brooklyn, NY police arrested Maria Solano, age 25 or 28, who wrapped her newborn boy in a blanket, stuffed the infant into a plastic bag, and abandoned him in near-freezing temperatures in front of a building, ringing doorbells as she fled Sunday morning. The child was hospitalized in stable condition at Lutheran Hospital. The mother is charged with reckless endangerment and abandonment of a child.
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“There’s some of you here tonight who are guilty, guilty of murder. And there are some of you men … you’re guilty because you’ve approved of what your girlfriend has done or what your wife has done or your sister has done. You’ve approved it, and you’re guilty too.”
. . . Rev. Franklin Graham, CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelical Association, denouncing abortion as outright murder and conspiracy for contract murder
“Buris is approved for seating.”
Another proud moment for the dems.
Parkay, why would Senator Vitter be opposed to Planned Parenthood? Isn’t that where his hookers get their birth control?
sursum,
In your post of 2.34 pm today you started off well, and I would not reject much of what you proposed as a possible reason for the discrepancy in Nobel Prizes awarded, many many for the Jews and very few for the Muslims, but I wouldn’t accept a lack of opportunity as the main cause by any means.
As far as your comment that I, “missed the problem and disguised reality with a useless litany.”, I will respond challenging you to refute one thing I said with fact. The Hamas Palestinians are murderous terrorists and need to be eradicated for peace to ever be possible.
Harry Reid introduces legislation to reduce unwanted pregnancies and decrease the need for abortions. The extremists cry that the not-for-profit Planned Parenthood will profit…. What is their major malfunction? Phhffft.
http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/choice-action-center/in-congress/prevention-first-act.html
Serious question: would it be possible to reliably distinguish between a 25 and 23 week old fetus? Aren’t there individual differences that would make such a discrimination task nearly impossible.
Yeah, that David Vitter is my kind of moral leader:
“Vitter is a staunch supporter of conservative political views. His legislative agenda includes positions ranging from pro-life to pro-gun rights while legislating against gambling, same-sex marriage, funding for abortion providers, increases in the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, the United Nations, and amnesty for America’s undocumented workers.”
Oops, then there was that D.C. madam stumble:
“In July 2007, Vitter was identified as a client of “D.C. Madam” Deborah Jeane Palfrey’s prostitution service in Washington, D.C.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Vitter
When crats have nothing else, they attack the person – just like Davis and Maggot. Two peas in a pod…
Oh, I forgot, Vitters is the
family valuesRepublican who has a fetish for wearing diapers.Of course, James McCluer never attacks anyone. Hypocrite.
Forgot the link:
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/56689/
Regular, it isn’t an attack, Vitter really did hire hookers. How is stating a fact an attack? Oh never mind, it’s not like I’d get an intelligent answer out of you. I might end up hearing non-sequiturs about Nobel Prizes or something a moron might think of.
James when you are a public figure and hypocrisy knows no bounds, people are going to comment on it. Sorry if that hurts sensitive feelings.
Hypocrite?
No, the crats are hypocrites, they are all in favor of legalized prostitution in the U.S., just like some European countries.
Regular, you claim all Democrats are in favor of legalized prostitution. Do you have anything to back up that claim? Nah, that’d be like asking for facts and honesty out of you. I’ll never get it.
“Serious question: would it be possible to reliably distinguish between a 25 and 23 week old fetus? Aren’t there individual differences that would make such a discrimination task nearly impossible.”–StevenEDavis
Steven,
You better believe it! Most Neonatologists can tell by weight and lung development. The child is developing rapidly.
At 23 weeks or less the child has little chance if any of survival, at 25 much much better. Today, with the advent of surfactant to reduce surface tension in the lungs, the 25 week child has a fair to decent chance of survival, though with potential problems, but not always.
Exercise Classes Air on City7
Date: January 12, 2008
Contact: Larry Foos, Superintendent of Park and Recreation
E-mail: LFoos@wichita.gov
Phone: (316) 268-4361
Park and Recreation Department showcases fitness classes
The City of Wichita Park and Recreation Department is helping citizens become healthier by showing fitness classes on City7, Cox Cable Channel 7. The classes include Yoga, Step Aerobics and 50+ Fitness. They are shown every day at 5:30am and 8:00am.
“The Park and Recreation Department wants to do its part in encouraging citizens to exercise and become more fit,” said Doug Kupper, Director of Park and Recreation. “These three classes, taught by our instructors, are a sample of what we offer at City Recreation Centers.”
You can sign up to take the expanded version of these classes and get a complete list of other Park and Recreation classes by going to http://www.wichita.gov and clicking on the Park and Recreation link. You can also call 268-4361 for more information.
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 12, 2009 at 5:33 pm | Permalink
Regular, you claim all Democrats are in favor of legalized prostitution. Do you have anything to back up that claim? Nah, that’d be like asking for facts and honesty out of you. I’ll never get it.
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It was an Anthropology study I read awhile back. Have no idea what the author’s name is now. Said that Democrats were in favor of having legalized prostitution and marijuana.
“Regular
Posted January 12, 2009 at 5:46 pm | Permalink
It was an Anthropology study I read awhile back. Have no idea what the author’s name is now. Said that Democrats were in favor of having legalized prostitution and marijuana.”
Oh. An anthropology study.
Well, I guess that settles it.
lmfao
Towards the top of this blog there was some discussion of how mammals survived after the KT Mass Extinction event. I got curious enough to do some googling. (By the way, the KT event is also called the K-Pg (Cretaceous-Paleogene event.)
One point was that the extinction probably didn’t happen all at once. Dinosaurs and other flora & fauna had been dying out for millions of years prior to the event. As the dinosaurs were dying off,some of the early mammals were gaining a foothold on earth.
(Ok, I looked in Wikipedia and I know it is NOT a peer reviewed article.) But it is in keeping with other articles I have read over the years so it may very well be relatively accurate.
Boxlock: How many Jewish renowned interntional scientists/scholars were there say in 1750-1800 vs. Chritistians? The former had little oportunity to excel, living beyond the pale in most places, but given the chance, they made up for it and…. it might be interesting to know if your Nobel winners describe themselves as Jewish, rather than , American, Danish, British, Rusian, etc., that is, are they a product of their nations’ schooling systems or was it just better DNA? The Zionists’ Irgun, Hagganah and Stern Gang were just as ruthless and evil as Hammas is accused of at one time, until they gained legitimacy by reason of Israels’ independence, when they morphed into “freedom fighters”. Killings of the British women and kids by blowing up the King David Hotel, the hanging of British Peacekeeping soldiers trying to get between the Zionists and the Arabs, ethnic cleansing (murder)of civilian gentile pockets during the war of 1948 and stuff like that gets glossed over these days. Under the Moors, Spain reached heights of a tolerant civilian governance comprising of Jews, Moslems and Christians alike while fostering literature, science, law, mathematics and healing arts, not reached again in Europe for another 500 years. Something called the Inquisisiton and the introduction of absolute Christianity took Spain down to the level of the rest of Europe and……… it was about the only time the Jews and Moslems were jointly persecuted. Axiom: The guys who can publish and promote their story best get to name the bad guys.
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Regular
Posted January 12, 2009 at 5:30 pm | Permalink
Hypocrite?
No, the crats are hypocrites, they are all in favor of legalized prostitution in the U.S., just like some European countries.
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. . . and just what, might I ask, is marriage:-)
Regular lies:
“It was an Anthropology study I read awhile back. Have no idea what the author’s name is now. Said that Democrats were in favor of having legalized prostitution and marijuana.”
No name of a study, no author, but we’ll have to take your lying words that it concluded that 100% of Democrats support legalized prostitution. With about 75 million registered Democrats that’s quite the conclusion. Naturally your claim is absurd and the fact that you can’t support your absurd claim just proves it.
JunJohnson: If you retort is to question if I know the difference between Russas and Canada, I accept your collapse gracefully ie, being dependent on foreign sources sucks regardless who does it. PS: The Globe and Mail says that Obama will make his first foreign trip to…. Canada! With all the hot spots in the world, I wonder why? Perhaps he may want to be sure he gets no energy suprises while trying to buttress our economy.
Man and dinosaurs co-existed for 1,748 years, after which, the dinosaurs got bored and left. They now reside on Uranus.
Nathaniel posted January 12, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I think that is why they are no longer calling it AGW, rather “climate change”
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2 points to the AGW denier team, for Nathaniel’s suggesting that the term “climate change” was formed recently, not way back in 1979!
http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2008/12/a_history_of_names_1.html
“Climate Change
–In 1979, the Charney Report, written by Jule Charney of MIT used the global warming term when referring to surface temperature change, but when discussing other changes that were induced by increasing atmospheric CO2 he used the term climate change.
Within scientific journals, this is still how the two terms are used. Global warming refers to surface temperature increases, while climate change includes global warming and everything else that increasing greenhouse gas amounts will affect.”
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Come on AGW deniers! Suggest some more falsehoods! You can win!!!!
JMWalker do you know why the cracks on Uranus go up and down instead of sideways?
Very interesting. . .
‘Powering a Google search‘
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/powering-google-search.html
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Maggotpunk
Posted January 12, 2009 at 6:26 pm | Permalink
Regular lies:
“It was an Anthropology study I read awhile back. Have no idea what the author’s name is now. Said that Democrats were in favor of having legalized prostitution and marijuana.”
No name of a study, no author, but we’ll have to take your lying words that it concluded that 100% of Democrats support legalized prostitution. With about 75 million registered Democrats that’s quite the conclusion. Naturally your claim is absurd and the fact that you can’t support your absurd claim just proves it.
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It’s what some anthropologists do, not sure what they are called, culture anthropologists or something.
The article basically stated that Democrats supported legal prostitution and drugs and Republicans were against it. It was an interesting article comparing the various countries, sex and drug crimes to the U.S. numbers.
hansen releases recently modified, buggy, non-compilable code.
cosmos buys it hook, line and sinker.
rage whines about having it both ways?
How about hansen releases the original compilable source code and allows the world to see how he fudges the numbers.
Democrats supported legal prostitution and drugs
As do libertarians. Let man regulate himself. Sounds like pursuit of happiness to me.
cosmos –
8 years of cooling. MAN that’s gotta stain your shorts.
Aging has its benefits
As we grow older, our brains retain the good memories and dismiss the bad
In the 1973 film “The Way We Were,” Barbra Streisand sings a haunting ballad about memories and aging. “What’s too painful to remember, we simply choose to forget,” the song goes.
Now, research suggests that the song was essentially right, and illustrates just how the brain manages to dismiss negative memories but retain the positive ones as we get older.
more at:
http://www.boston.com/news/health/articles/2009/01/12/aging_has_its_benefits/
I think if you have a negative personality and alwaqys look at the glass as half empty, you tend to do only remember the bad things and even exaggerate them. If you’re a happy person and have a positive attitude, you tend to remember what’s good and maybe exaggerate as well…it’s a psychological term called “rewriting history”. We tend to make our own history what we want it to be.
SolDevVB posted January 12, 2009 at 7:28 pm
cosmos -
8 years of cooling. MAN that’s gotta stain your shorts.
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Sorry Sol. . . you didn’t get any points this time either.
(As noted earlier in the game, Sol is infamous for trying ’stupid’ plays.)
cosmos_originally posted January 12, 2009 at 2:03 pm
SolDevVB posted January 12, 2009 at 1:51 pm
As per refuting the scientific concensus(sic)[sic], how about 8 years of cooling.
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And Sol sneaks around the defense. . . and he again tries the old, well-known, worn out play known as
‘Stupid is as stupid does‘
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/12/31/stupid-is-as-stupid-does/
Awwwwww. . . too bad. Sol didn’t score any points.
Better luck next time, Sol!
(Sol is infamous for trying ’stupid’ plays)
cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 1:55 pm | Permalink
Nathaniel posted January 12, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I think that is why they are no longer calling it AGW, rather “climate change”
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2 points to the AGW denier team, for suggesting that the term “climate change” was formed recently, not way back in 1979!
http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2008/12/a_history_of_names_1.html
Come on AGW deniers! Suggest some more falsehoods! You can win!!!!
and again he posts
cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 7:13 pm | Permalink
Nathaniel posted January 12, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I think that is why they are no longer calling it AGW, rather “climate change”
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2 points to the AGW denier team, for Nathaniel’s suggesting that the term “climate change” was formed recently, not way back in 1979!
http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2008/12/a_history_of_names_1.html
“Climate Change
–In 1979, the Charney Report, written by Jule Charney of MIT used the global warming term when referring to surface temperature change, but when discussing other changes that were induced by increasing atmospheric CO2 he used the term climate change.
Within scientific journals, this is still how the two terms are used. Global warming refers to surface temperature increases, while climate change includes global warming and everything else that increasing greenhouse gas amounts will affect.”
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Come on AGW deniers! Suggest some more falsehoods! You can win!!!!
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More prof that cosMo does not understand science or the links he posts.
“–This term was used during most of the 1970’s because scientists did not know if the future direction of climate modificate was up or down, since man-made aerosols might cause cooling.
–This term was basically abandoned in 1979.”
Since cosMo is delirious from getting sacked so many times he again tries a play that he knows won’t work so this time he gets slamed to the ground unconscience. The waaaaaambulence comes and pronouces him DOA.
The only falsehood here is that you know scientific meathodology.
SolDevVB posted January 12, 2009 at 7:23 pm
hansen releases recently modified, buggy, non-compilable code.
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Do you have a diff of the versions? What was modified?
Hmm, I am pleased but also disappointed.
My son was just describing the action in the movie “The Day After Tomorrow”.
Where global warming interferes with the Earths climate systems causing an ice age?
I don’t recall him seeing it at home. So I asked him where he saw it. He says he has seen it over and over again in elementary, middle, and now high school!
On the disappointing side, he does not seem to have been shown “An Inconvenient Truth” outside of when I had him watch it here.
So you see deniers, it won’t be long before the fact of human caused global warming and addressing it is ingrained in the culture. It really IS time for you all to start trying to be part of the solution. We’d much rather have you on board now than be able to say “we told you so” later.
Ohhhhhhh. . . too bad!
donndublin causes the AGW deniers to forfeit the game, by LYING about a play their opponents used just minutes earlier:
“. . . while climate change includes global warming AND everything else that increasing greenhouse gas amounts will affect.”
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donndublin posted January 12, 2009 at 7:49 pm
More prof(sic) that cosMo does not understand science or the links he posts.
“–This term was used during most of the 1970’s because scientists did not know if the future direction of climate modificate was up or down, since man-made aerosols might cause cooling.
–This term was basically abandoned in 1979.”
I’m really looking forward to the day our bloggers get all the questions about global climate change answered along with all solutions discovered. I know that will come from this blog because you work at it so diligently!
Will the announcement be made as a group?
I can see the headlines on front pages of newspapers all across the world:
Wichita Bloggers Save The World
Way to go guys! I’ll always be able to say “I knew you when…”
I’ll always be able to say “I knew you when…”
You were somewhere between minimum retirement age and full retirement?
BlueJay posted January 12, 2009 at 7:55 pm
So you see deniers, it won’t be long before the fact of human caused global warming and addressing it is ingrained in the culture. It really IS time for you all to start trying to be part of the solution. We’d much rather have you on board now than be able to say “we told you so” later.
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BlueJay,
The AGW deniers cannot stop denying AGW science.
If they did, then they would have to agree to the solutions, like carbon taxes. They will probably die of old-age or something before they would do that.
BLUEJAY
A bit of advice:
Never, but never send me another threatening e-mail.
I’ll never submit to threats. If you think publishing my personal info or some deep dark secret you think you have on me is going to shut me up, you’re sorely mistaken. You can’t make your point in discussion, so you threaten me?
Bring it on!
Well, that would be true about my age — almost! This year I turn 62 (born in 1947) and the gubmit starts sending me money monthly. I can’t remember being this excited about a birthday since, maybe my 16th…
But what I meant by “I knew you when,” is that I knew them before they became famous, before the world feted them with anannual national holiday, streets and buildings named after them…
Sounds like XXX has come here, to chew bubblegum, and kick a$$… and I think he is all out of bubblegum.
Can I be a part of it too?
Roach Road. No, that won’t do.
ROach Avenue?
No, no. Not classy enough Roach Boulevard….
MP, Thank you for another article about God’s magnificent creation. I am awed!
People in general can be very nervous about change cosmos. Cons in particular have serious issues with even the most minor adjustment in thinking or innovation that upsets their status quo. Too, there are those with considerable coin to lose with the passing of the status quo.
The key is in helping them to understand that America can lead the world again in innovation of the needed changes. It doesn’t HAVE to be all about sacrifice or privation. Though they might do well to harken to the conserve part of their conservative thinking. America can still have the greatest lifestyle in the world. We just have to work the brains a little, step away from what is easy and take a jump at a challenge.
YOU help with that. They can shout you down all day. But they just can’t seem to ignore you.
Keep it up!
I can here people talking now, “Go down Cosmos Avenue until you get to Regular Road. Go to the next light and that will be BlueJay alley. Now that’s a bad part of town, pretty run down, so you continue on through donndublin Street without delay. Turn left at the intersection of Roach and Clip and it be the third house on the left.”
“Where global warming interferes with the Earths climate systems causing an ice age?”
Since when does warming cause an ice age?
Yes BJ is will be sad when the AGW fanatics cause the death of millions in the next 10 years due to lack of energy and food as well as the misallocation of resources.
And of course Linda, my pigeon, I said minimum retirement age because I was right. And Viva l’amour, my little flower pot, I see you as fresh as a new daisy in the spring. Le mew, le purrrrrrrrrrrr.
XXX,
If you have lunch with “boxlock20″, please ask him why he insists that Pravda a credible scientific source.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/01/open-thread-112-4/#comment-501838
BlueJay,
Your son might want to read this, to understand some of the “artistic license” in the movie.
‘THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW – some comments on the movie’
http://www.pik-potsdam.de/~stefan/tdat_review.html
Wow Bluejay sounds like you will go to extremes to save your blogging face. Maybe this is why some blogs are best left anonymous.
Don’t forget XXX is an X-Marine and his metal is real. They don’t call it full metal jacket for nothing.
I’ll bet if you don’t make up, .. when he catches you, he will pull out your eyes, and shove em down your pants, so you can watch him kick the crap out of you, Okay? then he will use your tounge to paint paint his bar.
cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:26 pm | Permalink
XXX,
If you have lunch with “boxlock20?, please ask him why he insists that Pravda a credible scientific source.
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Cosmos,
Why would I do that? It’s not an issue for me. It’s a discussion that nobody wins.
Why don’t you invite him to lunch and ask him yourself?
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RoaCH
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:15 pm | Permalink
Sounds like XXX has come here, to chew bubblegum, and kick a$$… and I think he is all out of bubblegum.
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Got that right. Give that man a cigar!
It WAS my intention to keep it private.
XXX, my email to you was not in any way threatening nor was it meant to be.
“You can’t make your point in discussion, so you threaten me?”
As I told you in the email, you have taken to making nasty and dishonest shots on me lately. I have not responded in kind. As I explained, this is because I do not understand your actions and have felt some debt to you. It is my feeling though that you have some issue with me that is past resolving. SO I concluded our friendship was at an end.
I told you in the email that going forward I would in no way use anything from our friendship against you and asked only the same from you.
Let me reaffirm that here for anyone who cares to read. I have no lingering ill feelings on you XXX. I have no “dirt” on you as I have never even THOUGHT to look for any and don’t just now have anything particularly nasty to say at all. Other than that I am tired of being slapped at by someone I considered a friend. I do reserve the right to hit back but not in any sort of dirty or underhanded way.
I hope that is clearer now.
When two pigs roll in the mud, it is necessary that they both get dirty.
And deep down, in some place within you that you don’t want to talk about, or ever let anyone even close to you see – you like it.
It’s just a matter of time before someone kicks your bu*t up around your head and gives you a new set of shoulder blades.
Yeah, that’s right. Will Rogers ain’t got a leg lickin on me.
XXX posted January 12, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Why don’t you invite him to lunch and ask him yourself?
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Because unlike you, I do not want to be friends, or even have contact with someone like him.
Sorry. I’m the guy betting on the next chamber in the cyclinder being empty, when watching a game of Russian roulette. All the while knowing that blood does make the grass grow greener.
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RoaCH
Posted January 12, 2009 at 7:13 pm | Permalink
JMWalker do you know why the cracks on Uranus go up and down instead of sideways?
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Because they weren’t designed by republicans?
do not want to be friends, or even have contact with someone like him.
See here, thats, I say, that’s what’s got the hen house all up in a roar. Everybody takes themselves a little too seriously around these parts.
If we were all sitting around a campfire, maybe passing a j around – would we be a pickin’ on eachn other like this face to face?
Well hay thar JMWALKER?
I didn’t think I’d ever get to post my punch line.
I done did mostly forgot about ya!
The cracks on Uranus go up and down instead of sideways so you can slide down a bannister and not make really nasty sounds.
(rubbing finger horizontally across lips thrumming them while humming.)
That thar God fella or Mr. Evolution he was a purty smart ole boy.
“Dallas” is out; “Wichita” is now in. Let the blood bath begin!!!
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RoaCH
Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:07 pm | Permalink
Well hay thar JMWALKER?
I didn’t think I’d ever get to post my punch line.
I done did mostly forgot about ya!
The cracks on Uranus go up and down instead of sideways so you can slide down a bannister and not make really nasty sounds.
(rubbing finger horizontally across lips thrumming them while humming.)
That thar God fella or Mr. Evolution he was a purty smart ole boy.
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Geezzz, roach, that was old when I was in grade school, and that had to be, like, ancient. I like mine better:-)
You can find the good in just about anything I reckon’. But sometimes it takes a body to figuring for a mighty long time to do so.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:55 pm | Permalink
XXX posted January 12, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Why don’t you invite him to lunch and ask him yourself?
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Because unlike you, I do not want to be friends, or even have contact with someone like him.
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That’s a shame, Cosmos. I find that some of the most interesting people are those who have opinions that differ from mine. I find it broadening.
JMWalker thinks he can one up me heh?
Come on. Bring it on! I’m a waiting and times a wasting.
What you got up your sleeve. A knock-knock joke?
BlueJay
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink
As I told you in the email, you have taken to making nasty and dishonest shots on me lately.
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Back that up. What nasty dishonest shot have I made?
most interesting people are those who have opinions that differ from mine. I find it broadening.
I wouldn’t always say they are the most interesting. Sometimes they just plain suck. But it is enlighting to know to just what extremes a human mind can be stretched. And I ponder about those significantly extreme ones each and every time I encounter one.
Your point stands. You have nothing to ponder if you don’t look yonder.
How did he get this way? How on Gods green earth did someone ever get so totally extremed up?
And I’ll be damned! I was looking in the goddamn mirror.
BlueJay
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink
It WAS my intention to keep it private.
XXX, my email to you was not in any way threatening nor was it meant to be.
“You can’t make your point in discussion, so you threaten me?”
As I told you in the email, you have taken to making nasty and dishonest shots on me lately. I have not responded in kind. As I explained, this is because I do not understand your actions and have felt some debt to you. It is my feeling though that you have some issue with me that is past resolving. SO I concluded our friendship was at an end.
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This is better then Days of Our Lives.
RoaCH
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink
Sorry. I’m the guy betting on the next chamber in the cyclinder being empty, when watching a game of Russian roulette. All the while knowing that blood does make the grass grow greener.
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Better then the Deer Hunter even.
What’s the matter with BJ today?
(Also like MASH)
A call to service:
http://usaservice.org/page/content/calltoservice/
Like Karl Childers in Slingblade. The character was a real bore. Most wouldn’t cotton to listen to him for more than one sentence. Interesting? Or just plain boring? You’d really have to sit a spell with him, and even at that maybe never figure him out.
Reminds me of a straight line on a heart monitor, except for a few brief and very disturbing pings.
Phantom
Posted January 12, 2009 at 4:52 pm | Permalink
Buris is approved for seating.
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All ready for Barney Frank then.
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JimJohnson
Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:18 pm | Permalink
This is better then Days of Our Lives.
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Jim, stay in the truck. I’ll handle this, lol!
fleettwood
Posted January 12, 2009 at 5:00 pm | Permalink
“Buris is approved for seating.”
Another proud moment for the dems.
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The Dems sure thru a fit about it though. Must have been out of vaseline.
DavidB
Posted January 12, 2009 at 5:09 pm | Permalink
Harry Reid introduces legislation to reduce unwanted pregnancies and decrease the need for abortions.
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Passing a lot makes people less horny?
What’s the matter with BJ today?
I think Mr. Johnson that BJ just got his a$$ handed to him, but he is dilly-dallying around trying to figure it all out. Trying to tap-dance infront of a very experienced card player. Not what I would recommend personally, for someone I took a likin too. But for BJ, I hope he keeps tapping.
RoaCH
Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:17 pm | Permalink
most interesting people are those who have opinions that differ from mine. I find it broadening.
I wouldn’t always say they are the most interesting. Sometimes they just plain suck.
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True. That’s why I said SOME.
XXX
I’ll take you up on that lunch sometimes. Gladly. And I’ll buy the beer (I like the good stuff, too). We may agree on some things; we’ll likely disagree on many others. But at the end of the lunch we’ll both know more than we knew when we entered about each other, and we’ll have a new friend.
Either you are confident in who you are and welcome new points of view, or you are insecure in who you are and fear new points of view (and we know which column JR fits in). You may even change your view, if presented with reason to do so. As may I.
Either way, the process of learning, and the relationships built, are far more important than “winning” any silly temporary political debate.
I wrote a while back that there are those here who disagree with me that I respect. From previous exchanges, I know that XXX does not agree with me on a great deal, politically or philosophically. No matter. I’d be proud to call him friend, and respect is something I have no doubt he’s earned.
law
Mr. Johnson, I think Harry Reid is going to be sitting on the right hand of the new Leader.
Big brother will ensure that the legislation they pass will be sent via all communication channels.
Both TV, radio (once they steal it), and the internet will dictate, I mean tell us all how to think when we get a boner.
Yes, Mr. Johnson, Harry Reid can dictate a boner.
“The guys who can publish and promote their story best get to name the bad guys.”—sursum
sursum, I think these figures pretty well speak for themselves, they certainly do for me. Israel certainly doesn’t need me to defend them here, or to point fingers of blame at their aggressors. Looking at these figures pretty much tells the story as it truly exists, using just recorded fact.
12,500 Terrorist Attacks Bring Islam’s Evil into Focus
By Louis Palme
Jan 03, 2009
2009 began with the number of Islamic Terror Attacks reaching 12,500 on the tally kept by The Religion of Peace (TROP) website
( http://www.thereligionofpeace.com ).
Behind the grim data is an emerging picture that the terrorists have no political or social agenda other than causing mass terror, and they are content to accomplish this by attacking soft targets comprised of primarily women and children. Muhammad himself would be embarrassed by the inability of his 21st Century mujahideen to either shrink the borders of the infidels (per Surah 21:44) or to be steadfast in face the enemy (per Surah 3:148).
Actual figures at this link:
http://www.annaqed.com/en/content/show.aspx?aid=16158
BlueJay
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:18 pm | Permalink
We just have to work the brains a little, step away from what is easy and take a jump at a challenge.
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No more 24/7 blogging by BJ?
donndublin
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:19 pm | Permalink
Yes BJ is will be sad when the AGW fanatics cause the death of millions in the next 10 years due to lack of energy and food as well as the misallocation of resources.
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Misallocation of resources?
Ahhh. Back to the real, but hidden agenda for you Global Warming Alarmists.
BlueJay
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink
I told you in the email that going forward I would in no way use anything from our friendship against you and asked only the same from you.
Let me reaffirm that here for anyone who cares to read. I have no lingering ill feelings on you XXX. I have no “dirt” on you as I have never even THOUGHT to look for any and don’t just now have anything particularly nasty to say at all. Other than that I am tired of being slapped at by someone I considered a friend. I do reserve the right to hit back but not in any sort of dirty or underhanded way.
I hope that is clearer now.
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Can’t decide if this sounds like Sniveling Snotnose or Mr. Weasel.
Do you have a diff of the versions? What was modified?
Can you read FORTRAN files cosmos? C files? Python scripts?
Thought not.
If you could, you’d see the problems. But apparently, you are not even up to the script kiddie level. Kinda shows your level of (non)expertise in this arena. Very telling.
What does hansen have to hide? He obviously can’t produce his current code base. That too is quite telling…
Singing to Bluejay,
YOu got to know when to hold em,
Know when to fold em
Know when to walk away,
Know when to run.
Bluejay: I don’t know you very well but you got a buger hanging from your nose. As much as I like a good murder mystery, I suggest you run.
Let me put it another way, which may be more to your understanding…
Give the Wookiee what it wants. Nothing short of a straightforward, personal, to his face apology in private. Sometimes you just gotta man up.
But please! Don’t listen to meeee!! I love a bloodbath!!
I thought they already picked Hillary for Secretary of State?
(The press is being so hard on Obama already!)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/12/obama-chic-finding-dog/
Obama Chic: Finding the Perfect Pooch in a Shelter Will Be a Tough Task
More than two months after President-elect Barack Obama promised his young daughters that they’d rescue a dog from a shelter and give it a home in the White House, the first family-to-be has narrowed its choice down to two breeds — neither of which is likely to be found in a pound.
Hey SOl! I can read NATURAL!
Probably never heard of it… but it’s not from a song about a natural man…….
Is that BJ singin?
I’m sorry, so sorry
That I was such a fool
I didn’t know
Love could be so cruel
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes
You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don’t right
The wrong that’s been done
[Spoken:]
(I’m sorry) I’m sorry
(So sorry) So sorry
Please accept my apology
But love is blind
And I was to blind to see
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes
You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don’t right
The wrong that’s been done
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes
I’m sorry, so sorry
Please accept my apology
But love was blind
And I was too blind to see
Basic.
Anybody know that one?
narrowed its choice down to two breeds — neither of which is likely to be found in a pound.
Yes they will Mr. Johnson! Do not underestimate the power of the Leader!
I will bet you a dog biscuit that mysteriously, out of the blue, one or BOTH of the two rare and expensive breeds his girls have picked out WILL beyond a shadow of doubt – show up in a dog pound.
Now, there may be a dead owner, a drug addict death, or a movie star who PROVIDED the dog to the pound.
But Obama the Leader will get his pound of dog flesh.
IT IS WRITTEN.
Just as I thought. Mr. Walker has no jokes, no knock knock jokes.
I’m disappointed. But not surprised.
Hillary would be a good btich for the White House. I bet she still remembers where her dish is out back.
BASIC is a stupid college course program. I took it before COBOL I and COBOL II. I got the divisions in COBOL, but like the free form I can get from Natural programming.
Did the kids ask for a “Hillary”?
I thought they asked for more fancy breeds?
BJ having some make-up sex now?
Yuck.
No, they wanted a mutt.
I knew several women who darn near set me on fire!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479584,00.html
Minnesota Woman Tried to Set Boyfriend on Fire, Police Say
Monday, January 12, 2009
JimJohnson
Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:49 pm | Permalink
Basic.
Anybody know that one?
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11 years old. Wrote my first game using TI-94A Basic. Anyone else care to age themselves???
How does Q-Basic grab anyone?
Anyone that can describe a TI-994A gets bonus points. Google searches excluded…
I wasnt aware that a “labradoodle” was an exotic breed… LOL More like what might happen if somebody’s labrador jumped a fence into the pen of a standard poodle…
Ok Sol:
Abacus
Lot’s of nice dogs at the pound.
Hank can tell ya.
Maybe Mr. Obama should get off his high horse and go with his two daughters to a shelter and see for himself.
Looking on the internet just puts ideas in their heads. Life’s not like that. Life is real.
Go to a real pound and see the dogs on death row – TOMORROW!@!
They don’t have the luxury of waiting.
XXX Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:12 pm
“BLUEJAY
A bit of advice:
Never, but never send me another threatening e-mail.
I’ll never submit to threats. If you think publishing my personal info or some deep dark secret you think you have on me is going to shut me up, you’re sorely mistaken. You can’t make your point in discussion, so you threaten me?
Bring it on!”
XXX, sorry to butt in, but now do you see why I let the a$$hole stand in a cold parking lot for challenging me repeatedly and calling me “coward” because I initially ignored him?
There is nothing ever to be gained by getting around such a diseased mind.
Well I think BJ is giving a private BJ to XXX.
Although not nearly as exciting as watching a meltdown in hyperspace which could move from the electron world to the .357 world, I’m touched.
I do believe XXX is the bigger man. Heck, he even gave JR his first computer onwhich JR proclaimed his intention of saving the world.
Alas, the dreams of the young are refreshing to hear. And I know XXX is probably thinking along the lines as the old bull when confronted with the excited youngin’…
“Let’s walk down the hill and f*ck them all.”
JimJohnson
Posted January 12, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink
Ok Sol:
Abacus
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Side rule is old tech too. Can we move forward? cosms can’t even recognize 8 years of cooling…..
“I wasnt aware that a “labradoodle” was an exotic breed… LOL More like what might happen if somebody’s labrador jumped a fence into the pen of a standard poodle…”
They, labradoodles, were originally bread in Australia as assistance dogs. Trying to breed the intelligence of the poodle and the loyalty and personality of the lab together
Nice dogs.
slide rule even
Less than a few weeks before The One our Leader is enthrowned. Will he kneel and be knighted, and will his lovely wife be made queen? Camelot revisited?
God save the king!
And what branch of government will Her Highness Mrs Michelle, Queen of America be given?
Will she be seated at the right hand of Obama Almighty?
Or will her place be somewhere below that of the knight Harry Reid?
Well, I guess there can be a silver lining in every cloud. Ha…ha, ha!
Planned Parenthood makes staff cuts
Funding declines partly attributed to Madoff.
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090109/FREE/901099982/0/information
“Hit with declines in funding from the economic crisis and the Madoff scandal, the Planned Parenthood Federation of America is laying off around 20% of its staff.
Part of Planned Parenthood’s funding declines stem from the closing of the Florida-based Picower Foundation, which shut down in December because its assets were managed by Bernard Madoff. The $1 billion foundation was one of the few major funders of reproductive rights issues.
Damn.
The CONs are circle-jerking again.
Hey I saw the Cessna thread.
Sad. But it serves those evil rich people right. Who the heck do they think they are? Why should they own their own planes and small jets?
Cessna needs to do as Hitler did by building the peoples car.
Cessna needs to build a Volksplane. One for the average serf.
Interesting how the libs email to converse and carry on. A couple of days ago Pmomma revealed she gets her direction and guidance from Cosmos on spiritual matters.
Now we have Bluejay revealing the circle of free thinking [choking] liberals “working as a koolaid team” who cannot stand on their own convictions.
This is a lesson of sorts for those independent thinkers and posters who stand on their own merits and two feet.
Sorry Monkey,
By YOUR OWN DEFINITION, I am not a CON.
So much for your one liners…..
Libs don’t beat off? Can’t get it up Monkey?
Labradoodles:
Allergy friendly
Low to non-shedding
Easy to train
Great family pets
Incredibly intelligent
Loyal
Athletic
Low to no odor
Funny and endearing
Beautiful
Easy to care for
Labradoodles love kids and animals
Playful and joyful
Gentle and kind
Willing and eager to please
Walker must have been a drive by attack.
He cannot follow through.
Maybe he is waiting for a response to his email requesting permission to post a joke?
Labradoodles:
and not found in dog pounds awaiting death.
Until a democrat puts one there for Obama, the Leader.
Whatsa matter Monkey? Waiting for the words to post from your email contacts?
Maybe Cosmos is too busy to hep ya.
Kid had the computer.
I believe I have said what I needed to say to you privately XXX. I hope I have clarified it here. I don’t wish to add to the con exploitation of it by further airing our differences.
I do not consider you an enemy. Rather I think you have decided I am not your friend. I respect your reasons and hold no ill will toward you.
Ashamed of your CON-ness, “RoaCH?”
Don’t blame ya.
Good play Bluejay. Backdown, but hold your head up and try to look graceful.
(If you could cover that acne scaring it might work better.)
Too late Monkey, from the time delay in posting we know those are not YOUR words.
You got them from your email directive didn’t you?
Kid had the computer.
My a$$. Bluejay you truly are the coward of the county.
Everywhere we go.
People want to know.
WHo we are.
So we tell them.
http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/rescue/1100301/
Labradoodle Rescue….
Heh
Pick from your new “friends” carefully XXX.
Be careful before going to Chas’ doggie porn sites.
SolDevVB osted January 12, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Do you have a diff of the versions? What was modified?
Can you read FORTRAN files cosmos? C files? Python scripts?
Thought not.
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Thought wrong. I’ve programmed Fortran since the early 1970’s — and on various platforms, including Windows. Also C, C++, Pascal, various assembly languages, etc..
Again, what was modified?
BJ, the scorned woman….
He ll hath no fury like a woman scorned.
Chas
Posted January 12, 2009 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
For all those who said that no towns could get their electricity from wind power —- You all better tell the town of Jetmore, KS, that they must be liars…. They are just about ready to throw the switch, and power all of the town’s electricity from wind turbines….
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“All of the town’s electricty from wind turbines..”
100% Chas? Really?
“RoaCH” asks –
“Libs don’t beat off?”
Not so much, ever since I met girls.
You ought to try it sometime.
“JimJohnson
Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:18 pm | Permalink
This is better then Days of Our Lives.
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Jim, stay in the truck. I’ll handle this, lol!”
Friend of yours XXX? Jim Johnson?
RoaCH
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:24 pm | Permalink
And of course Linda, my pigeon, I said minimum retirement age because I was right. And Viva l’amour, my little flower pot, I see you as fresh as a new daisy in the spring. Le mew, le purrrrrrrrrrrr
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Is Roach, Max when he is drunk? Or, maybe when Max is toking on too many roaches?
Something is not right with this citizen, I’m telling ya…
BJ, playing the guitar, and singin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOJPvxgkvn8
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!
blessings to the new “first dog” -
whatever its breed!!
so mote it be!!
“StevenEDavis” asks –
“Is Roach, Max when he is drunk? Or, maybe when Max is toking on too many roaches?”
I think “RoaCH” just acknowledged he’s a wanker.
XXX posted January 12, 2009 at 9:11 pm
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 8:55 pm | Permalink
XXX posted January 12, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Why don’t you invite him to lunch and ask him yourself?
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Because unlike you, I do not want to be friends, or even have contact with someone like him.
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That’s a shame, Cosmos. I find that some of the most interesting people are those who have opinions that differ from mine. I find it broadening.
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XXX, Gregory F. Fegel wrote in Pravda: “Indict all of the US government officials and their allies who planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks”.
“boxlock20″ insists that Fegel is a credible source. I wouldn’t call “boxlock20″ “interesting”, I’d call him confused (to be very polite).
XXX, if “boxlock20″ is the kind of person you U.S. Marines enjoy being friends with, then have fun.
cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 10:58 pm | Permalink
XXX, if “boxlock20? is the kind of person you U.S. Marines enjoy being friends with, then have fun.
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Insulting the US Marines now?
And congratulations to Jetmore, for being the first town to have 100% of it’s electricity generated by wind power.
Andy, Barney, Gomer, and Chas can now stop turning the crank to power the one TV in town.
California Dreamin’ Over? Record Number of State Residents Moving
The number of people leaving California for another state outstripped the number moving in from another state during the year ending on July 1, 2008. California lost a net total of 144,000 people during that period — more than any other state, according to census estimates. That is about equal to the population of Syracuse, N.Y.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479704,00.html
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Guess some have had enough of Caliwood, Hollyfornia.
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Boxlock20
Posted January 12, 2009 at 5:34 pm | Permalink
“Serious question: would it be possible to reliably distinguish between a 25 and 23 week old fetus? Aren’t there individual differences that would make such a discrimination task nearly impossible.”–StevenEDavis
Steven,
You better believe it! Most Neonatologists can tell by weight and lung development. The child is developing rapidly.
At 23 weeks or less the child has little chance if any of survival, at 25 much much better. Today, with the advent of surfactant to reduce surface tension in the lungs, the 25 week child has a fair to decent chance of survival, though with potential problems, but not always.
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Thanks Boxs,
I know (or, I should say, I suspect) you are a medical equipment salesman. That falls way short of being a neonatologist, so you’ll pardon me, I hope, if I suspect that you have no clue as to what you are talking about.
But, thanks for playing, you might win, if you keep trying. Getting a degree in Medicine would help with us taking you as a credible source.
Night. Going to bed soon
Cosmos,
Please describe the difference and syntax difference in declaring a variable in FORTRAN, C, C+, C++ and Python. Describe the difference in memory allocation. What is the definition and the difference in a variable and a pointer?
How does memory allocation and garbage collection differ between the languages above differ?
What is the primary protocol for IO in the FORTRAN language?
Please describe the difference in assigning a value to a variable in the above languages.
Can you list, from the above languages, which are strongly typed and the work around for each type of variable?
SolDevVB,
Provide a link showing what was modified in Hansen’s code.
Describe the data plot of annual global average temperatures since 1975.
A pointer is that dog hunters’ use on duck hunts I think. :D
“SolDevVB” chats –
Please describe the difference and syntax difference in declaring a variable in FORTRAN, C, C+, C++ and Python. Describe the difference in memory allocation. What is the definition and the difference in a variable and a pointer?
How does memory allocation and garbage collection differ between the languages above differ?
What is the primary protocol for IO in the FORTRAN language?
Please describe the difference in assigning a value to a variable in the above languages.
Can you list, from the above languages, which are strongly typed and the work around for each type of variable?
Just a guess here, “SolDevVB,” but you don’t get invited to a lot of parties, do you?
that = what
cosmos,
Knew you were a liar. Thank you for proving your ignorance.
BS CIS 101. First year stuff. hee hee hee
“SolDevVB” –
Just a guess here, mind you…
But you’re the guy in the group home who, every afternoon, shouts out the answers when the residents are watching “Jeopardy,” right?
SolDevVB,
Why should I waste my time answering your questions, when you refuse to answer mine?
You complained earlier that Hansen’s code was modified, so list what modifications were made. And show how those modifications changed the output.
Were the changes just compiler and/or data file related?
Just a guess here, “SolDevVB,” but you don’t get invited to a lot of parties, do you?
Monkey,
Have you ever tasted my Steak Marsala? Chicken Milano? My fried chicken?
I am an exceptional cook, beyond my technical abilities; beyond which, I am a cunning linguist. So, yes, my dinner invitations are exceptional. And yours?…
But you’re the guy …who… shouts out the answers … to “Jeopardy,” right?
More often than not…
cosmos_originally
Posted January 12, 2009 at 11:53 pm | Permalink
SolDevVB,
Why should I waste my time answering your questions, when you refuse to answer mine?
You complained earlier that Hansen’s code was modified, so list what modifications were made. And show how those modifications changed the output.
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Do you not understand time stamps?
You obviously do not understand the difference in syntax between the above mentioned languages. Why should I expect you to understand the difference in the code provided vs. what hansen provided…
I asked some CIS 101 questions and cosmos balked. All the information I need as per cosmos ignorance…
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Monkeyhawk
Posted January 12, 2009 at 11:52 pm | Permalink
“SolDevVB” –
Just a guess here, mind you…
But you’re the guy in the group home who, every afternoon, shouts out the answers when the residents are watching “Jeopardy,” right?
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Sorry, that one got me laughing so hard that I could not take a drink for fear of liquid coming out of my nose. MH, dude, you crack me up…
Thought wrong. I’ve programmed Fortran since the early 1970’s — and on various platforms, including Windows. Also C, C++, Pascal, various assembly languages, etc..
Yeah, didn’t think so. Nice try though.
Hey, you might be believable if you can differentiate between describing a variable in
a) FORTRAN
b) C
c) C+
d) C++
e) C#
Or even a basic discussion of the difference between each of the above different languages. It would even be a benefit if you could discuss the difference between an event driven language and an object oriented language and which is prevalent in the world today.
So which is prevalent cosmos? (or any cosmos supporter out there?) Rage I am calling you out… which language is prevalent today?)
Sorry, that one got me laughing so hard that I could not take a drink for fear of liquid coming out of my nose. MH, dude, you crack me up…
Yup. MH does have the sense of humor. even when wrong, he still elicites a chuckle or two. Kudos given. Respect given.
SolDevVB posted January 13, 2009 at 12:05 am
Do you not understand time stamps?
You obviously do not understand the difference in syntax between the above mentioned languages. Why should I expect you to understand the difference in the code provided vs. what hansen provided…
I asked some CIS 101 questions and cosmos balked. All the information I need as per cosmos ignorance…
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Again. . . you refused to answer my questions, so I’m not wasting time answering yours.
File time stamps? So what? Maybe they removed some old, commented out code, or added comments.
I’ve modified lots of very old Fortran code to run F95, on different platforms.
So quit stalling, and post a link showing the diff between Hansen’s versions.
“SolDevVB” whispers –
“Monkey,
“Have you ever tasted my Steak Marsala? Chicken Milano? My fried chicken?”
What? Are you coming on to me?
“I am an exceptional cook, beyond my technical abilities; beyond which, I am a cunning linguist.“
Cute.
And in high school you considered yourself a “Master Debater,” too. Right?
“So, yes, my dinner invitations are exceptional. And yours?…”
I don’t get that many. Most people insist on coming over to my place so I’ll cook for them.
I’m not an …exceptional… cook, but stuff usually ends up tasting good.
I’m best with comfort food with a twist.
But now it sounds as if I’m coming on to you.
Sorry ’bout that.
“But you’re the guy in the group home who, every afternoon, shouts out the answers when the residents are watching ‘Jeopardy,’ right?”
“More often than not.”
How proud you must be.
How proud you must be.
Well, yeah, I am. Thank you.
I’d trade recipes with you any day of the week. There are a few things I am ‘known for’. But I will give up the ’secret’ for another secret. So, MH, I’ll trade throw away email addy’s with you for a recipe or two. It isn’t like we will ever have the same guests over or anything.
SolDevVBB@Hotmail.com
Cosmos,
Again, you debut your ignorance. What is the difference between a variable and a pointer in FORTRAN, C, C+ and/or C++/C#?
Hey, I’m here all night. Cosmos, I am curious, what is your depth of knowledge in the most current programming language?
Are you knowledgeable about restful applications? Are you up to speed on WCF security models?
I’ll keep track of the throw-away e-mail.
Thanks.
A lot of my recipes have evolved into nothing much like what I started doing.
I learned a lot of things from my grandmother whose most common answer to “How much garlic do I put in?” was “Whatever you think is right.”
I really like garlic.
As a result my kitchen is a National Historical Landmark as a certifiable vampire-free zone.
SolDevVB,
Okay, since you keep stalling, I will assume that you do NOT know what modifications were made in Hansen’s code.
BTW: When modifying old code for newer compilers, the sneaky problems are things like different defaults, such as for data precision.
I really like garlic.
As a result my kitchen is a National Historical Landmark as a certifiable vampire-free zone.
I am with you there brother. Wish I could get the wife in the same camp.
As per recipes… The way I see it… A recipe is only what some other bloke thinks tastes good….
but, it is a damn good place to start. You a wine drdinker? Ever tasted a Marsala wine?
cosmos_originally
Posted January 13, 2009 at 12:44 am | Permalink
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I tell you what MH, we’ve butted heads more than once on this blog. But you’ve made me laugh more than we’ve fought. I’d be more than glad to share a recipe or two with you and my source for recipes. I make a drop dead Steak Marsala and a “make her puss-y wet” chicken Milano. I’d share those recipes with you in a heart beat just because they may make another human being smile. And if those human beings might be in your company, so be it. The only thing I ask is if you improve on the original recipe, give the brother a clue and lend me your tips. If you don’t offer a recipe in return, so be it.
SolDevVB,
I see that you finally posted what you know about Hansen’s code modifications, in your 12:53 am post. Thank you.
“A pointer is that dog hunters’ use on duck hunts I think.”
Pointers are for upland birds, they point them.
Retrievers are for waterfowl.
“Thanks Boxs,
I know (or, I should say, I suspect) you are a medical equipment salesman. That falls way short of being a neonatologist, so you’ll pardon me, I hope, if I suspect that you have no clue as to what you are talking about.
But, thanks for playing, you might win, if you keep trying. Getting a degree in Medicine would help with us taking you as a credible source.
Night. Going to bed soon”
Again and as always you are a presumptuous ass Steven. I worked in a newborn intensive care unit for only about 8 years and was supervisor of a respiratory team working with the physician that developed the NIC unit at Wesley and involved with portions of that development. When I went into medical equip. sales I sold infant ventilators and monitors and did the field inservices instructing the physicians, nurses and repiratory therapists on their use.
Now apologize butt hole.
“Boxlock20″ admits –
“I went into medical equip. sales I sold infant ventilators and monitors….”
So!
It’s a financial, not moral, motive for you to advocate illegal abortions.
You’re part of the highly-lucrative Premie Industry.
“It’s a financial, not moral, motive for you to advocate illegal abortions.”
Again a lie from the prince of liars when ever it serves his agenda. I have never advocated “illegal abortions”, and am against all abortion except to save the mother.
And are you suggesting there is anything wrong with advancing one’s self to better support their family?
What a complete nitwit!
“Boxlock20″ –
By opposing legal abortions you advocate illegal abortions.
“Boxlock20″ asks –
“…are you suggesting there is anything wrong with advancing one’s self to better support their family?”
In the highly-lucrative Premie Industry?
Tell me again the contributions you make to the technologies of infant ventilators and monitors et cetera you peddle. Your commission simply makes it what? 10%, 15% more expensive?
But, no. there’s nothing “…wrong with advancing oneself to better support…” your family. And the guards at Dachau were merely putting food on the table.
“It’s a dirty job, but somebody’s gotta….”
Now wait a minute. So, In Monkey’s twisted little mind, having a role in providing high tech medical equipment that save babies’ lives is comparable with “the guards at Dachau”? Boxlock makes money. Horrors!
I guess when you are a socialist/communist or whatever that type of sorry thinking would indicate, profit is evil.
Sol,
Nice job of proving cosMo is a liar. You challenged him with a simple question. After 10 minutes of search he stalls by asking you a frivolous question and refuses to answer until he finally finds a lame irrelevant answer.
I’ve got a suggestion. Since most people on this blog are bored with this AGW crap, I suggest we reply any comment he makes with the same response. Something like: Cosmos, why do you continue to post comments you know nothing about.
Most of the AGW skeptics on this blog know are much more qualified than he so we should not encourage him.
Do you any others have any other suggestions?
Do you any others have any other suggestions?
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Hey Cosmos, pull my finger.
I want to contribute to the science of AWG!
or AGW, your choice.
It’s always nice when ones deeply held convictions mesh profitably with their line of work.
Of course, it does invite speculation as to which is more deeply held, the convictions or the revenue stream.
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ANTI
Posted January 13, 2009 at 8:33 am | Permalink
Do you any others have any other suggestions?
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Hey Cosmos, pull my finger.
I want to contribute to the science of AWG!
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Anti,
lol
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BlueJay
Posted January 13, 2009 at 8:46 am | Permalink
It’s always nice when ones deeply held convictions mesh profitably with their line of work.
Of course, it does invite speculation as to which is more deeply held, the convictions or the revenue stream.
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BJ must be referring to the AGW fanatics. I believe it’s more about the revenue than the conviction.
BlueJay
Posted January 13, 2009 at 8:46 am | Permalink
It’s always nice when ones deeply held convictions mesh profitably with their line of work.
AGW – the multi-billion dollar industry. Sure does sound like cosmos.
Hansen was predicting the end of the earth, in 1971, due to the looming ice age. With the past 8 years of cooling, the current sun cycle, PDO etc, he was closer to reality in ‘71 than now.
Too bad cosmos can’t see the truth. Sure hope cosmos is getting her share of the billions for being such a faithful minion.
SolDevVB posted January 13, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Hansen was predicting the end of the earth, in 1971, due to the looming ice age.
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Poor, very misinformed SolDevVB.
Rasool and Schneider (not Hansen) wrote the paper, which did not predict a “looming ice age”. They only used a computer program that Hansen had written.
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/09/to_rasool.php
“Apparently the IBD thinks that if someone uses a program you wrote as a tool in their analysis you must agree with their conclusions. By their logic, if I borrow a pen from you, you must agree with everything I write with your pen.”
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It’s a shame that SolDevVB is so misinformed, and also unable to understand climate science.
LOL cosMo thinks his pen is a computer model.
No actually germie, I was referring to bawks’s truck in preemie equipment and his desire to force women to birth. Please don’t presume to speak for me. I got a rep to protect.