Obama’s promises weren’t too numerous to count

Memo to politicians: Assume that somebody is counting your promises with an eye toward holding you accountable for them later. It turns out that Barack Obama made a whopping 510 promises while running for president, according to PolitiFact.com, compared with Bill Clinton’s 204 in 1992 and George W. Bush’s 177 in 2000. Obama’s were as big as getting out of Iraq and as small as getting his daughters a dog.

76 Comments

  1. Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    Well, there’s a lot of fixin’ up to do!

  2. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    Don’t forget this Friday we’re gathering at The Anchor in downtown Wichita to celebrate! Hope you all can come!

  3. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    How long are you planning on staying out Mary? I’m headed for a friend’s house to get ‘likkerd’ (that way less harassment from police). But I may stop by if the festivities are still going on.

  4. ajet100587
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Just think, any minute now the Anti-Obama league of Kansas will be in here to express there more than often false conservative views and Fox News spin on things they think they know ALL about from the forwarded e-mails they got. Hey… I’ve got a grand idea… in these tough times lets support the man that is going to lead our country rather than put him down all the time. At least give him a chance. Cannot be any worse than what we’ve had the last 8 years. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Remeber that?

  5. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:53 am | Permalink

    I hope we all stay as long as possible….we don’t get together that often!
    I won’t leave until 10 or so.

  6. Raptor
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    Did any of those hundreds of campaign promises address racism? I saw a news story this morning about the black congressional caucus (clearly a racist organization) is paying the way for 6 people to come to the inauguration–all six are exclusively black. Don’t you love institutional racism?

  7. Regular
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    Heh, the last time I heard the phrase “Too numerous to count” (TNTC) was in Microbiology class referring to counts of colonies of bacteria on culture media augar plates. :)

    Bacteria – promises by politicians, same thing though.

  8. the_truth_hurts
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Heck, he’s already broken…er, further qualified…about half of 510 promises and he hasn’t even taken the oath yet.

    I’ll bet Brooklyn Bridge sellers and Nigerian con artists use the Obama mailing list for leads. Suckers….

  9. Raptor
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    what a concept ‘ajet’ proposes:

    “I’ve got a grand idea… in these tough times lets support the man that is going to lead our country rather than put him down all the time. At least give him a chance.”

    That is absolutely HILARIOUS!!

  10. Rage
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    One member of the Congressional Black Caucus (John Lewis, third from the right) hangin’ out with his racist homies in the 60s:

    http://www.explorepahistory.com/images/ExplorePAHistory-a0k1h7-a_349.jpg

  11. okobserver
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Ajet I was one of the first on here to say give Obama a chance. And I will do just that. But when I hear the libs say what you just said then I am reminded how horrible this group of libs treated Bush from day one.

    Do as I say and not as I do! What a concept.

  12. RFL
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    ” I’ve got a grand idea… in these tough times lets support the man that is going to lead our country rather than put him down all the time. ”

    I’ve been doing that for the past 8 years. Where have you been?

    I am thankful for our leaders and I wish them all well. Good luck to President Obama.

  13. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    There are VERY HIGH EXPECTATIONS for Obama’s Inaugural address tomorrow. He has to annouce that he has delivered his people to the Promised Land.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/19/MN5P15BT5V.DTL

    When the family visited the Lincoln Memorial last week, Obama told CNN’s John King that his daughter Malia noted Lincoln’s inaugural address engraved on the wall.

    “Do you have to give one of these?” she asked her father.

    When he said yes, Obama recalled, “she turns to me and says, ‘First African American president. Better be good.’ “

  14. dadman
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED .. how stupid can the liberals be ?? . . . can someone please explain the intent of the MA banner ?? .. I’d like to hear what the liberals think it meant and who it was posted for

  15. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Gosh, I HOPE Obama’s 1st Inaugural Address is as good or better then Lincoln’s first address:

    http://www.milestonedocuments.com/document_detail.php?id=32&more=fulltext

    Abraham Lincoln’s First Inaugural Address
    March 4, 1861

    Fellow-Citizens of the United States:

    In compliance with a custom as old as the Government itself, I appear before you to address you briefly and to take in your presence the oath prescribed by the Constitution of the United States to be taken by the President before he enters on the execution of this office.

    I do not consider it necessary at present for me to discuss those matters of administration about which there is no special anxiety or excitement.

    Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that—

    I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

  16. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    You read that?!? Lincoln promised that he would not end slavery!

    http://www.milestonedocuments.com/document_detail.php?id=32&more=fulltext

    Abraham Lincoln’s First Inaugural Address

    I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

  17. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    The annoited one-

    Lincoln, Kennedy, Johnson, and Reagan all wrapped up into THE ONE!

    (Can’t wait to see the photo of Chas licking Obama’s feet, and BJ kissing his as s.)

    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2009/01/02/for_inauguration_zeal_lbj_65_may_be_the_precedent_for_obama/

    Barack Obama prepares to be sworn in Jan. 20 on Abraham Lincoln’s Bible to inherit Franklin D. Roosevelt’s economy – while facing inevitable comparisons to John F. Kennedy’s style and Ronald Reagan’s rhetoric

  18. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    TRACK ALL 501 OBAMA PROMISES HERE:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

    The ONE wouldn’t lie, would he?

  19. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Raptor
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 7:49 am | Permalink
    what a concept ‘ajet’ proposes:

    “I’ve got a grand idea… in these tough times lets support the man that is going to lead our country rather than put him down all the time. At least give him a chance.”

    That is absolutely HILARIOUS!!
    ————————————————-

    ROFLMAO!

    Poor guy, needs a chance. (Can’t hold him to the same high standards as all the other Presidents. He needs a break, Affirmative Action you know.)

  20. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    JimmyJ–

    BlueJay never strongly supported Obama.

    Why, you ask?

    He had the very legitimate concern that Obama would be too conciliatory to idiots like you.

  21. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Obama’s speech stolen, a preview:

    “Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do for you.”

  22. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    While the CONs sit around counting what’s left of their money under Bush, the LIBs are out volunteering as part of Obama’s Day of National Service.

    “Geez, what’s a community organizer DO, anyway,” whined Sarah Palin.

    Uh, CONs . . . you’re looking at it . . .

  23. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Lincoln probably never would have abolished slavery if the anti-American Southern slavers hadn’t taken up arms against their own democratically-elected government.

    But give them credit where credit is due, after they lost the war, they simply engaged in low-level terrorism (Jesse James being a good example), until the exhausted North withdrew its armies.

    Then instead of de jure slavery, they simply practised de facto slavery under the share cropper system.

    Now, most Americans are in one way or another part of a share cropper system. That’s why productivity keeps going up but wages keep going down.

    So, in a way, the South won the Civil War, and instead of buying and owning slaves like in the old days, the slave-masters simply rent us.

  24. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:50 am | Permalink
    JimmyJ–

    BlueJay never strongly supported Obama.
    ———————————————–

    Not true.

    First he was against him.

    Then he was for him.

    Are you now the spokesperson for BJ?

  25. outlander
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    While the CONs sit around counting what’s left of their money under Bush, the LIBs are out volunteering as part of Obama’s Day of National Service.

    ————

    Posting from your assigned Obama work camp site Capn?

  26. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:53 am | Permalink
    While the CONs sit around counting what’s left of their money under Bush, the LIBs are out volunteering as part of Obama’s Day of National Service.
    ———————————————

    What are they doing exactly?

    They must not work for a living.

  27. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Every day I work, is a day of National Service.

    The Government takes half my pay.

    How much f uckin more do ya want?

  28. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    What promises did Bush make?

    He promised that he cared more about winning than about democracy, and he made good on that promise by stealing Florida.

    He promised that he’d use any pretext for invaded and occupying Iraq, and after 9-11, he made good on that.

    He promised that he would ignore anything that Clinton thought was important, because he hated all things Clinton–unfortunately, Clinton’s biggest concern was the threat of terrorism, so Bush had to ignore that, leading directly to 9-11.

    He promised that he’d get gov’t out of the way of business, which he did, leading directly to the current near-depression.

    Bush promised that rich would get vastly richer and everybody else would pay the bills–they have, we did.

    So all in all, Bush was very honest about what he was going to do and he sure as hell followed through, no question about it.

  29. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Funny,

    Obama’s using the same Bible Lincoln used to take the oath of office.

    Lincoln said that day that he would not abolish slavery.

  30. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Yeah, the gov’t doesn’t take half your pay, JJ.

    You lie.

    In fact taxes are lower now than they’ve been for decades.

  31. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    The Obama defense:

    Bash Bush.

    (Libs, please remember this approach. You will be using this frequently over the next 4 years.)

  32. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    JJ–

    Lincoln said he would not abolish slavery when the slave-owning South was still part of the Union.

    When they rebelled, then all bets were off.

    Lincoln also implicitly promised that he wouldn’t kill Americans with the Army too, but when the South seceeded in open warfare, then legalism breaks down.

    But you probably knew that . . . or in your case, maybe not . . .

  33. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    I’m not defending Obama by bashing Bush.

    I’m just bashing Bush, because he so very much deserves it.

    In fact, he deserves a prison sentence.

  34. outlander
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Yeah, the gov’t doesn’t take half your pay, JJ.

    You lie.

    ——–

    Well, you lied Capn, in the you post directly below it. You accusing someone of lying is like BTK shouting “murderer” at someone.

  35. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    It’s a national holiday, JJ, so don’t use “work” as an excuse.

    BTW, I already did my bit over the weekend.

    JJ and his CON pals really blogged a lot . . .

  36. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    outlander, on cue, brings in the gratutious “content-free” post.

    If you’re incapable of having an interesting independent thought, outlander, at least read something interesting and report it.

  37. outlander
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Nah, it’s my day to track lies, Capn.

  38. Raptor
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    11:07, capn posts:

    “In fact taxes are lower now than they’ve been for decades.”

    11:11 capn posts:

    “I’m just bashing Bush, because he so very much deserves it.”

    capn = hypocrite.

  39. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    As I was walkin’
    I saw a sign there
    And that sign said no trespassin’
    But on the other side
    It didn’t say nothin!
    Now that side was made for you and me!

    In the squares of the city
    In the shadow of the steeple
    Near the relief office
    I see my people
    And some are grumblin’
    And some are wonderin’
    If this land’s still made for you and me.

    Nobody living can ever stop me
    As I go walking
    That freedom highway
    Nobody living can make me turn back
    This land was made for you and me

  40. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:02 am | Permalink
    CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 10:53 am | Permalink
    While the CONs sit around counting what’s left of their money under Bush, the LIBs are out volunteering as part of Obama’s Day of National Service.
    ———————————————

    What are they doing exactly?

    What was your bit?

  41. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Raptor–

    Taxes should be higher. That’s why our national debt is 10 Trillion dollars, double from what it was under Clinton, when it was actually going down for the first time since Carter.

    You CONs want to fight a war in Iraq at 2 billion a week, and you don’t want to have to pay for it.

  42. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    I worked at the food bank with some friends stuffing dinner bags for poor kids to eat on the weekends.

    (At PUBLIC school, they get at least one decent meal a day.)

  43. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    I also networked with a bunch of people through an organization I volunteer with to recycle their plastic, glass, paper, and cans.

    That’s where a pick up truck comes in very handy.

    You know, recycling one aluminum can saves enough energy to watch TV for three hours.

  44. JMWalker
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    #
    JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    The Obama defense:

    Bash Bush.

    (Libs, please remember this approach. You will be using this frequently over the next 4 years.)
    ========================================================
    You know, jj, I voted for bush the first time around. He proved himself so incompetent, there was no way I’d vote for him again. I gave him 4 years to prove himself: he didn’t.

    My vote for Obama had nothing to do with bush, but in the fact we might just get somebody in who knows what they’re doing. I’ll give him time to prove himself. So don’t put me in your tight little category. Like most Liberals, and unlike most Conservatives, I think for myself.

  45. Raptor
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    And, of course, Bush gets all the blame for the deficit, while conveniently ignoring that all spending bills must originate (and be passed) in the democratically controlled house.

    Maybe that is one of the reasons that the democratically controlled house has an even LOWER approval rating than Bush does?

  46. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:21 am | Permalink
    Raptor–

    Taxes should be higher. That’s why our national debt is 10 Trillion dollars, double from what it was under Clinton, when it was actually going down for the first time since Carter.

    You CONs want to fight a war in Iraq at 2 billion a week, and you don’t want to have to pay for it.
    ———————————————————

    And Obama voted for and supported 7 times this amount in ONE bailout bill.

  47. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:23 am | Permalink
    I worked at the food bank with some friends stuffing dinner bags for poor kids to eat on the weekends.

    (At PUBLIC school, they get at least one decent meal a day.)
    ——————————————-

    Good food in public school? Riggghtttt.

    How much time was that you spent stuffing bags?

    Those poor kids, are they not getting the benefit of food stamps?

    The poor are still starving, yet more then half of them are obese?

    Capn, you are encouraging obesity in America, which leads to Cancer, Heart Disease and other illnesses.

  48. JMWalker
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    #
    Raptor
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    And, of course, Bush gets all the blame for the deficit, while conveniently ignoring that all spending bills must originate (and be passed) in the democratically controlled house.

    Maybe that is one of the reasons that the democratically controlled house has an even LOWER approval rating than Bush does?
    ====================================================
    Really? And the republicans controlled both houses for how long? And did exactly what to control the financial institutions?

    Like most conservatives, they want desperately to blame the democrats, when it was congress and the white house as a whole that failed to take steps to stop the greed on wall street.

    I know two hours is a bit much for you to keep focused, but try watching the ascent of money at PBS.com, and you just might learn something interesting:
    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/ascentofmoney/featured/watch-full-program-the-ascent-of-money/24/

  49. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Raptor–

    Bush can veto any spending bill he doesn’t like.

    Also, his budgets were worse than the Congress’s.

    This is the same excuse the CONs gave when Reagan doubled the national debt.

    It didn’t make sense then either.

    But thank you for playing . . . and don’t forget to pick up your consolation prize as you exit . . .

  50. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    JJ–

    Not bad.

    It took you less than half an hour to ridicule and demean helping hungry kids.

    Ebenezer Scrooge move over–JJ and his CON pals think you’re a liberal.

  51. JMWalker
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    #
    JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:43 am | Permalink
    ——————————————-

    Good food in public school? Riggghtttt.

    How much time was that you spent stuffing bags?

    Those poor kids, are they not getting the benefit of food stamps?

    The poor are still starving, yet more then half of them are obese?

    Capn, you are encouraging obesity in America, which leads to Cancer, Heart Disease and other illnesses.
    =======================================================
    Are you getting it now, capn? Regardless of what you do, morons like jj will find something to b itch about. He and his ilk have nothing to offer anyone but negatives. For people like jj to offer anything positive to any discussion would require a brain transplant. DNFFT.

  52. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:25 am | Permalink
    I also networked with a bunch of people through an organization I volunteer with to recycle their plastic, glass, paper, and cans.

    That’s where a pick up truck comes in very handy.

    You know, recycling one aluminum can saves enough energy to watch TV for three hours.
    ———————————–

    What? People don’t know how to recycle on their own? Somebody has to do this for them?

    What kind of morons are you ‘helping’ Capn? Why don’t you just teach them how to recycle on their own?

    Public schools should be teaching this, if parents are too stupid to do so.

    Nanny Gov’t anyone?

    “Ask what your country can do for you!”

  53. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    I’m actually impressed Capn that you knew how to stuff a paper bag.

  54. TomPaine
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    JJ, you mean the same Bailout that Bush proposed, and that McCain and the Republican leadership supported?

  55. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    That’s your Obama defense?

    Bush & McCain did it too?

    Good luck with that going forward.

  56. CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    You are correct, JM Walker, absolutely correct.

    If a Lib poster turned out to be Jesus Christ, they’d do a “Yo’ Mama” for Mary not being married when she conceived.

    I just like seeing how far they’ll go in making themselves out to be the selfish, uncaring rascals they are.

    I haven’t been able to find a limit, have you?

  57. TomPaine
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    your going to attack Obama while ignoring the fact that that Republicans created and supported the bailout bill, good luck with that, Btw if it was up to me I would have let the banks fail

  58. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Torture the numbers long enough and they’ll confess to anything.

    It turns out Democrats in Congress have a much higher approval rating than those of the Republic Party… who rate even LOWER than Shrub.

    “Average it out,” though, and you have that “The Democratic Congress rates lower…” meme.

    And, of course, you have to ignore the 2008 elections since the “…Democratic Congress rates lower” canard is based on pre-election polling.

    The polls just came out and 89% of Americans apparently believe Shrub is secure in being among the lowest 5 presidents in this nation’s history. Nixon is in there as well as Harding. Buchanan gets some votes and William Henry Harrison is sort of the free space on the BINGO card since he spent most of his presidency dying.

    But 9 out of 10 Americans are convinced George WMD Bush was an abject failure.

    “JimJohnson” is like that one-out-of-five dentists who prefers sugared gum over Trident.

  59. RFL
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    The bailout is not a fiscally conservative idea. This is true no matter which party proposed it. Compared to most of his party, Bush is not a fiscal conservative and neither is McCain.

    We all know that Obama is not a fiscal conservative. Most liberals would be proud of the bailout if Obama had been president and originally proposed it.

    Once big government, big spending efforts to right the economy fail, there were will be plenty of egg to go around on both sides including the American people who let this happen.

    Will the American people ever vote to give their leaders less power to confiscate their earnings from them?

  60. brian_nuevo
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    “Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:30 am | Permalink
    Don’t forget this Friday we’re gathering at The Anchor in downtown Wichita to celebrate! Hope you all can come!”

    I will see if I am available. I love eating at the Anchor (I miss the fried olives though).

  61. Phantom
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    If Obama had been Pres., the bailout would’ve been executed effectively. If Obama had been pres. the last 8 yrs. a bailout would not be necessary.

  62. fleettwood
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    “Don’t forget this Friday we’re gathering at The Anchor…”

    See you there!

  63. brian_nuevo
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    “Phantom
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:44 pm | Permalink
    …If Obama had been pres. the last 8 yrs. a bailout would not be necessary.”

    That is probably not true. Downturns, recessions and crashes are just part of life in a capitalistic economy.

    Without major economic rule overhauls every 4 or 5 years it would not be possible to prevent the market from falling (anymore than it is possible to force the market to rise or grow).

    Regardless of who is in charge of the Whitehouse or Congress there will be growth periods and contraction periods in our economy. Things can be done to make drops less precipitous, but they cannot really be prevented or avoided.

  64. brian_nuevo
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    “fleettwood
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Permalink
    “Don’t forget this Friday we’re gathering at The Anchor…”

    See you there!”

    fleettwood, you do know there are rock and roll music and people with tattoos and piercings there?

    I know those things can make conservatives pretty uncomfortable so I don’t want you to be surprised
    :)

  65. Mr_Kia
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    With a virtual Super Majority in the House and Senate any opinion on Republican law makers I think it moot.
    They don’t have power to get anything accomplished.
    If someone doesn’t approve of Congress’ job over the last two years there problem is with Democrats. The fact that they think it is Republicans just shows how tuned out the general electorate is which is scary but not a surprise.

    What time is the Anchor gatering? I have to work but if it’s 5ish I may be able to stop by for one.

  66. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    If a Lib poster turned out to be Jesus Christ
    ————————————————-

    All the Libs walk on water, apparently.

  67. JimJohnson
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Say Capn, you never said how much time you spent making sack lunches for the poor fat kids.

    2 hours? BFD.

    I bet you made poison peanut butter sandwiches for them too.

  68. Jed
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Hey good people, can’t we at least have the swearing in before we start the swearing at?

  69. brian_nuevo
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    “Jed
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 1:30 pm | Permalink
    Hey good people, can’t we at least have the swearing in before we start the swearing at?”

    ‘good people’?
    I think you are posting on the wrong blog!

  70. Wahine_Tara
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    “Say Capn, you never said how much time you spent making sack lunches for the poor fat kids”

    Jim, I know where your hostility for poor fat kids comes from [wink, nod].

    Try replacing all of your pop with water, all of your “white foods” (simple carbs) with it’s whole-grain equivalent, and all of your dairy with a reduced fat (not fat-free) version. This alone can help jump start your weight loss, and it’s relatively painless.

    Too often people try to overhaul their diet all at once and they end up getting discouraged and failing.

  71. Phantom
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    The unavoidability of recessions is open to debate.
    http://www.economicshelp.org/2008/12/are-recessions-avoidable.html

  72. brian_nuevo
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    “Phantom
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink
    The unavoidability of recessions is open to debate.”

    as is most everything….
    That does not make it less true.

  73. Phantom
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Nor more true.

  74. janeeyre
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    It is true that in Lincoln’s first inaugural address, he said he wouldn’t interfere with slavery.
    However, as the (un)Civil War dragged on, it became clear that the Northerners wanted it over. Darn those peaceniks anyway!

    Lincoln then was moved to say that if he could save the Union by freeing the slaves, he would; and if he could save the union by not freeing the slaves, he would chose that. Since the North was in favor of ending slavery, he chose that path.

    All slavery did not end in 1865. Recently, an author checked small town court houses in the south & found evidence that people were still buying and selling other people well into the first 20-30 years of the 20th century. The local law enforcement folks were part of that.

    Though I have forgotten the author’s name & the name of his book; I heard the author discuss the book on a talk show and I’d like to read it. If anyone is familiar with it, I’d appreciate your sharing the info.

  75. brian_nuevo
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    “janeeyre
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 5:05 pm | Permalink
    …All slavery did not end in 1865. Recently, an author checked small town court houses in the south & found evidence that people were still buying and selling other people well into the first 20-30 years of the 20th century. The local law enforcement folks were part of that… ”

    I guess that does make sense. There is nothing else I can think of that when outlawed completely and immediately stopped (liquor during Prohibition, polygamy, workplace discrimination, smoking in Wichita restaurants, etc, etc). It is logically that slavery would follow a similar pattern of tapering off then going underground.

    Also, the good blackmarket trading (no pun intended, really) usually does involve some level of law enforcement complicity.

  76. Predestined
    Posted January 19, 2009 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    (Libs, please remember this approach. You will be using this frequently over the next 4 years.)

    The Cons bashed Clinton during his 8 years as President, then continued throughout Bush’s 8 years. I’d say we Libs still have 8 years to make up for.

    Personally, I think giving Bush any attention now is a total waste of time, just as his two terms were a total waste.