Everybody assumed that Lt. Gov. Mark Parkinson would run for governor in 2010, when the two-term limit kicks in for Kathleen Sebelius. As of Friday, “I’m out,” he said. Parkinson, a former Kansas Republican Party chairman, was Kansas Democrats’ best hope of extending their winning streak. Now what? The only other existing party stars are 3rd District congressman Dennis Moore of Lenexa, incoming state Treasurer Dennis McKinney and Attorney General Steve Six – but Moore has said he wants to run for re-election in 2010, and the other two haven’t even had a chance to win their seats outright, let alone use them as springboards to higher office. Somewhere Sen. Sam Brownback (the likely GOP gubernatorial nominee in 2010) is smiling.
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Surely I’m not the only one who has noticed that in Kansas, we tend to elect a Governor who is of the opposite political party of the President, and this is a good testimony to how level-headed we are.
It depends on how you read the bubble.
Why would Dennis Moore give up his almost guaranteed Congressional seat representing northeast Kansas to return to ramshackle Topeka to serve as Governor of a state enmeshed in financial problems.
Personable State legislator, Dennis McKenney, from tornado ravished Greensburg and newly appointed Kansas State Treasurer, seems most likely to step up to run for Kansas Governor. With two years to build up name recognition and knowing the ambience and geography of western Kansas, McKenney seems the most likely candidate.
On the downside, McKenney doesn’t seem to recognize that Kansas water is a valuable resource and needs to be protected from the large industrial users such as electric power producers and ethanol manufacturers … or Kansas won’t have a future worth governing.
Perhaps Dennis McKenney will use his next two years as State Treasurer to gain a new perspective on these matters important to the future of Kansas.
And Rhonda, I’m not sure that Senator Sam Brownback is the presumptive Republican governor’s candidate in two years. I suspect his polling efforts will scare him off. Besides, again, returning to Topeka from a plush high paying U.S. Senatorial seat to tackle the desperate financial problems facing Kansas doesn’t seem particularly likely.
I suspect Sam will look for a vacant pulpit in a southern Baptist church somewhere to live out his years.
I think Brownback is just looking to build a political resume for another run at President. However I do think he will be a better governor than we have had in long time.
And yes that includes more than just ‘never take a chance Kathleen’.
Bluntly it takes a special type of Democratic to be the Governor of such a Blue state.
Sebelius pulled it off solely because she was more middle then left. The Kansas Democratic Party seems to have a real problem in finding a candidate that fits the bill for Kansas. We need a leader not a party leader. And it should be someone that is a Kansan first rather then a party hopeful looking to make a name.
Brownback only admirable trait is holding his ground on what he believes other then that he would be a big fish in a little pond. Trying to tackle what he perceives as issues larger than this State. Those being forcing Religious doctrine on to those whom are not of his religion. And we need someone that’s major concern are those born and living not those who have yet to be given birth for one instance.
JWink
Brownback is a Catholic, Opus Dei at that.
Brownback would be excellent in the position, IMO. It is his if he wants it. He could use the opportunity to prove doubters like WD there wrong and build mainstream support for… whatever.
Outlander I would love to be proven wrong as I imply I was highly impressed by Brownback when it would have been more politically benefits for him to tone down or stop in his stance he kept it. Brownback is an excellent speaker one of the best I have seen while watching CSPAN. The problem I have with him is he is “special interest” a one trick pony. It so influences his prospective that he sees it in everything. God is in everything but everything is not about God. Sometimes we have to be concerned and think it out for our selves else we waste the gifts of reason and logic that God gave. It not always the easiest gifts to have, few things in life are totally covered in a book even the Bible.
I hear that. (Pointing up)
Brownback has the money, the name-recognition, and the silly twice-born social agenda to be a shoe-in for governor in 2010. Unless…
Somebody takes him on about his self-flagellation Catholic cult, his gigolo marriage to the Stauffer inheritance, his obvious goal to tack 2 years “executive experience” onto his laughable record in the United States Senate (remember the letters from “snowflake babies” speech in the Senate well?) Brownback thinks “executive experience” will turn 2008’s pathetic 3% of Republic Party voters will turn him into the nominee in 2012.
Thing is, the Republic Party majorities in both houses of the Kansas Legislature have become even more radical than Sam the Sham.
And a Democrat who can attack Brownback’s narcissism and connect him with dolts such as Bill Otto, Brenda Landwehr, et al… has a chance to knock Sam off his game.
I nominate Monkeyhawk for Democratic candidate for governor in 2010!
We really need to elect more Democrats around the state, but how do we do that when all the flippin people only vote for republicans no matter how crooked they are? I tell ya, they could run Satan on the ballot and as long as he had an R by his name, they’d vote for him.
I give up on the moderation stuff. This is a joke.
I just wrote a long post about Brownback, Opus Dei, and science, and of course it’s held up. I have no idea why, and although I believe my post adds to any discussion of Sam Brownback I have no desire to go back through it and somehow discover the objectionable bits.
Whatever filter was set here Friday afternoon, when IT left for the weekend, makes no sense at all.
In May 2007 the GOP held a presidential candidate debate. At this debate the moderator asked “Who here does not believe in evolution?” The word “evolution” was not modified in any way, so all but two of the candidates quite sensibly waited to raise objections until it was modified. One of those who immediately raised his hand was Sam Brownback.
Later that month Brownback wrote to the editors of the New York Times to explain his immediate response. From that letter:
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“While no stone should be left unturned in seeking to discover the nature of man’s origins, we can say with conviction that we know with certainty at least part of the outcome. Man was not an accident and reflects an image and likeness unique in the created order. Those aspects of evolutionary theory compatible with this truth are a welcome addition to human knowledge. Aspects of these theories that undermine this truth, however, should be firmly rejected as an atheistic theology posing as science.
Without hesitation, I am happy to raise my hand to that.”
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Brownback states clearly that he would reject a rational explanation of man’s origins and superimpose a supernatural one.
In my opinion, this eliminates Brownback as a candidate in any position where he could exert any control over science education or science funding.
“Pedant” –
One of the CONs who post in this forum (I don’t remember who) said last week s/he could fix all of WE Blog’s IT problems.
Maybe whoever it is got the gig.
I gotta think it’s a glitch somewhere.
On the flip side, for the last couple of weeks before this weekend I noticed that some pretty salty Anglo-Saxon four-letter words got into threads, unlike before. I suspect WE Blog overcompensated.
I have no problem with words — there are damned few of ‘em everyone understands, we probably should use ‘em more often — but some people do.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the same outfit that posts “Obama is a Muslim” messages on their marquis didn’t flood the paper with complaints about salty language.
That’s the short version.
Opus Dei is relevant because it’s a very secretive sect. Secrecy implies a comfort level with deception that I find disturbing in a public official.
Furthermore, one of the tenets of Opus Dei is its belief that everyone is called to holiness. Its members are extraordinarily devout, something I don’t necessarily object to, and my objection is not a “sign of contradiction.”
Brownback’s written comments about science, coupled with his religious views, disqualifies him for public service as described in my previous post.
Pedant,
Sure wish I could read your full original comment. I know I would find it instructive and interesting. If you have a throwaway email addy to send it from, and wouldn’t mind, could you email it to my throwaway email addy, please.
rockpainter2003@yahoo.com
Thanks in advance for your consideration.
In a sense the belief in/or of evolution, creationism what so ever only is relevant in the medical field. Than so to have a better understand of the human body and the related functions with similar species.
As one who has woken up in a strange place after a night of drinking and the like. The important question to answer is “where am I now?”. How I came to be there is unimportant and something that is only a concern if I can not figure out how to get home.
Kansas politics – oh, how I miss them.
Parkinson was not going to get the nod from the rank and file D’s to run for Governor. The D’s want someone that has paid their dues to the party and Dennis McKinney fits that bill.
If the rumors are true about Moore’s health and McKinney does not run, Moore may become the sacrifical lamb for the race.
I want to make it clear I am not now, nor to I have any plans for, seeking the Democratic Party’s nomination for Governor of Kansas.
If nominated, I will not run.
If elected, I will not serve.
If served, …I might have a nibble or two.
I disagree with that, writerdog. I think the process of scientific thought and respect for such thinking drives our economy (or NOT, as has been the case recently!).
The neglect of science has come a broader neglect of expertise, competence, and even functional government. We ignore how to think and how to figure how what works and what fails, what’s true and false.
Monkeyhawk,
Your campaign should be fun! What I think will be most interesting is when you are accused of ’such and such’ but instead of denying it like most politicians, you give juicy details!
“lindainks55″ joins the Monkeyhawk Band Wagon!
Your campaign should be fun! What I think will be most interesting is when you are accused of ’such and such’ but instead of denying it like most politicians, you give juicy details!
Y’think?
“I tried it as an experiment in college… and pursued post-graduate work.”
or
“I didn’t know that woman was a professional… until we’d been married 8 years.”
But, “lindainks55,” I am not a candidate for Governor of the great state of Kansas.
P-momma said: I tell ya, they could run Satan on the ballot and as long as he had an R by his name, they’d vote for him.
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The Republicans tried to get Satan to run till they found out he was on the Democrat ticket.
Linda in the grand scheme of things and knowledge it is only relevant in the subject at hand.
I knew a guy that was totally clueless on how to change a flat tire! That was because he had always called the AAA and someone did it for him. I got a call from him one night asking me how to do it or would I come and do it for him. He was well off and did not concern himself with such things to learn. But the guy was knowledgeable in business matters.
Yes, I see what you’re saying and agree. However, there is much to be said about learning to ‘think,’ versus learning facts. Scientific thought is based around the very act of questioning for its own sake. In this questioning we all have a better chance of seeing all the alternatives, and weighing them against one another. I think we get more effective solutions when we look at all the possibilities.
Scientific thought has not only been neglected but censored under bushco.
Staying on subject with this thread — Brownback’s history and public comments indicate he would continue the neglect and censorship of science. He may be even worse than bushco (bemusing thought).
What a joke Linda. The censorship exists on your side.
Question manmade global warming: Your censored
Question evolution: Your censored
Question embryonic stem cell research: your censored.
The party and ideology that proclaims its tolerance and acceptance of divergent views is actually the most intolerant and unaccepting of any thing that goes against their preconceived beliefs.
If the blog moderator allowed, I could bring link after link showing that bushco was censoring scientists on several different subjects.
I don’t know from your post if you’re saying you personally have been censored or just who you’re referring to.
I was referring to government censorship.
Here on the blog everyone could express themselves and their opinions, there would always be someone who had a differing opinion but all could be posted and discussed, most could be ridiculed by someone.
That was until recently when it’s become more difficult for any of us to post anything.
Chrisfrommactown posted January 4, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Question manmade global warming: Your censored
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You AGW deniers do NOT have ANY credible science refuting AGW.
That’s why you run around complaining about censorship, and lying about the science.
‘Scientific Integrity‘
http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/
Good folks, I’m planning to run for the governorship in 2010 on the Anarchist party ticket.
The theme of my campaign is: Do yoou really believe in your heart that what we have now is better than no government at all?
My campaign promise is: If I should run for a second term, the voters should consider it an admission of abject failure!
My qualifications: What qualifications does it take to turn out the lights and lock the doors?
My campaign slogan: No State= No Taxes
Chrisfrommactown:
Use the correct form of the word. It should “you’re” NOT “your”.
Chris,
Your problem is that you consider a rational refutation and questioning of your veracity to be censorship. Get over it!
Linda, if you are referring to James Hansen of NASA, then you must also know that He is a stooge of Alger Gore who was instructed to cry censorship in order to make it look like the Bush administration was anti science. You and your ilk are stupid enough to believe it, even though Hansen was proven to be a 24 carat phony.
Cosmo, your bogus links do not impress me. AGW (whatever the hell thats suppose to be) is the biggest fraud foisted on man kind. Its real convenient to call it climate change and then point to any weather anomaly that occurs as a result of man’s burning of fossil fuels. I found it interesting that in order to get elected, BHO made little or no mention of global warming.
Thats about the level of response I would expect from you. Why don’t you go to cjonline and blog? That will raise the IQ of both blog sites.
Wolfowitz ‘tried to censor World Bank on climate change’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/wolfowitz-tried-to-censor-world-bank-on-climate-change-461471.html
Federal Scientists Accuse Bush of Climate Science Censorship
Reports Show White House Censored Scientific Research on Global Warming
http://environment.about.com/od/environmentallawpolicy/a/censorship_clim.htm
Former Surgeon General Was Muzzled, Censored By Bush Administration
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/surgeon-general-muzzle/
SCIENCE-US: Top Scientists Want Research Free From Politics
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=41205
Bush Administration Manipulates Science and Censors Scientists
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/3-bush-administration-manipulates-science-and-censors-scientists/
“You and your ilk are stupid enough to believe it.” — Chrisfrommactown
There are many more. But since I’m so stupid I’m sure you’ve already decided nothing I bring to the blog is worthwhile.
Chrisfrommactown posted January 4, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Cosmo, your bogus links do not impress me. AGW (whatever the hell thats suppose to be) is the biggest fraud foisted on man kind. Its real convenient to call it climate change and then point to any weather anomaly that occurs as a result of man’s burning of fossil fuels. I found it interesting that in order to get elected, BHO made little or no mention of global warming.
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Chrisfrommactown, thank you for again proving that you cannot use facts and rational arguments to support your opinions.
AGW is also called “climate change” because WARMING also causes “climate change”.
The observed “anomaly” is WARMING over the recent decades, that cannot be explained by natural forcings only — but it is explained by natural AND anthropogenic forcings combined.
Our burning of fossil fuels, and land use changes, caused those anthropogenic forcings.
Both Obama and McCain campaigned on reducing GHG’s, to reduce AGW.
Question manmade global warming: Your censored
Question evolution: Your censored
Question embryonic stem cell research: your censored
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It’s “you’re,” ChrisfromCrapTown.
Please tell us that you were homeschooled.
BTW, you don’t “question” any of these concepts. You deny them.
Rhonda dear,
Paul Morrison is scheduled to take the stand in Wichita soon. Maybe you can help him with a political rebirth and into the Topeka mansion. At least with him we would not have to worry about Tiller being wined and dined at CedarCrest.
Cosmo and Linda: SO what. I reject your bogus websites as proof of anything except that there are more misled sheep out there like yourselves. I’m also sure that you would reject any thing that I would offer that refutes your beliefs. Thats why most of the time I refrain from posting links even though I could offer up literally hundreds of them. Each more valid and accurate than any you come up with.
“Jed
Posted January 4, 2009 at 4:02 pm | Permalink
Good folks, I’m planning to run for the governorship in 2010 on the Anarchist party ticket.”
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Both Monkeyhawk and Jed — one running and the other not running but easily coerced into taking a nibble (or was it a toke or … ??)
It will be such a fun campaign. Even if the efforts are limited to this blog, we’re in for some great entertainment!
I think Chris works for NCRA, the oil company in McPherson…the town that smells like A*S all the time.
Both Monkeyhawk and Jed — one running and the other not running but easily coerced into taking a nibble (or was it a toke or … ??)
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I am thinking of running under the newly created, “You may think I’m an A-Hole, but I won’t lie to you or sell my soul.” party.
In spite of my protestations, a Draft Monkeyhawk movement it catching and growing like prairie wildfire.
I find this disconcerting.
I have no desire to move into Cedar Crest.
For one thing, Cedar Crest in is Topeka and I hate Topeka. The best restaurant in Topeka is the Hardee’s at the Turnpike rest stop east of town. The only culture in Topeka is in the yogurt section of grocers’ dairy cases. And I steadfastly refuse to live in a town that’s the subject of a Loretta Lynn song.
I hereby I declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to the city of Topeka.
So please don’t encourage the Draft Monkeyhawk movement that’s underway to force me to become a candidate for Governor of Kansas.
Please do not send any encouragement to that cyber-upstart Jeremy Shops (jeremy_shops@hotmail.com) who is spearheading the Draft Monkeyhawk movement in Kansas. And please, no more e-mails from you asking about how you can contribute to the campaign. You’re only encouraging Jeremy.
Monkeyhawk,
What party is it that you absolutely won’t be drafted to run as their candidate? ;-)
I think we’re figuring out there could possibly be (and not be) candidates from several parties (don’t they refer to that as a crowded field?), but they question asked by the thread header, “Does a Democrat want to be governor?,” still has no definitive answer.
I’m looking forward to the campaigns and the protestations of not campaigning.
Vote for ANTI, He’ll do a half-assed job and that is better than Kansas has ever had!!
The adjustments made to the new word filter must have been along the lines of go back to ground zero. ;-)
Yesterday we couldn’t get a post with words such as “assassinate” or “massacre” or “assurance” out of moderation limbo.
ass
It let me post without any wait?
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lindainks55
Posted January 5, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Perma link
Your com ment is awaiting mod eration.
It se ems blog gers can now post words that guaran te ed mode ration on Sat urday, but there are still ‘trig gers’ that will get your com ment into mod eration limbo. Doesn’t se em to be words we would all agree aren’t ac cept able, doesn’t fol low any rhyme or reason I can discover.
At 12:42 I posted a comment that went straight to moderation limbo. At 12:44 I posted the exact comment with spaces in many words. Go figure?
Although I can’t discover how to keep comments out of moderation limbo, I think double letters aren’t well received, one link per post seems to go through but two or more not so readily. If your comment is a short one or inconsequential, no sweat, but when you’ve worked at a comment and feel it worthy of adding to the discussion, it gets frustrating!