Conservatives seem more pleased with Barack Obama’s inaugural address than many liberals. Fred Barnes wrote in the Weekly Standard that “Obama’s ‘new era of responsibility’ echoed the ‘Personal Responsibility Act,’ the third of the 10 planks in the Contract With America. Obama also said that it’s not the size of government which matters but whether it works. Newt Gingrich coined that thought years ago.” Bill Kristol wrote in the New York Times that “Obama’s speech was unabashedly pro-American and implicitly conservative.”
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No. Conservatives cannot make claims to Obama. I have not yet seen any of the personal responsibility act language.
Here is a link to what the personal responsibility act was all about:
http://www.house.gov/house/Contract/persrespb.txt
There are some downright ridiculous items in there all aimed at punishing behaviors that conservatives don’t like.
It is time to stop listening to Obama’s speeches and start looking at what he is doing. After all, politicians are famous for saying one thing while doing another.
Time to play wait and see. Maybe those pretty words will be adhered to, or maybe he was just trying to please everyone in a speech. With such a ‘historic occasion’ of his inauguration, I think the later case is more likely.
Regardless of what Obama says or does, many conservatives will be unable to acknowledge it due to his more liberal stance on social issues.
What Obama is doing for us? So far all I see is he’s appointing more criminals to his cabinet and giving the world alot of money for planned parent hood worldwide while we Americans are loosing jobs, houses and the like. Oh I forgot………he’s also giving our tax dollars to the greedy spineless criminals in our banking systems…..without accountability. Our government as a whole needs run off and changed. They, our government are ruining this country
The eagle’s sure doing it’s part to try and convince everyone that Kansans and conservatives are catching their Obama fever. Long term spread-the-pain, spread-the-blame efforts underway?
I get so sick and tired of conservatives trying to claim “personal responsibility” as their own creation, like they invented it.
Personal responsibility (and being responsible for others) is a quality taught by one’s parents early in life. My mother drilled it into me as a child, or I would not have it now.
I am a liberal, and proud of it. I am also responsible for my own well-being, my career, my family, my home, my community and my country.
““Obama’s ‘new era of responsibility’ echoed the ‘Personal Responsibility Act,”
I posted shortly after the speech asking what Obama meant by “Era of Responsibility”. I was hoping demcorats/liberals here would know the answer, and understood Obama.
I do NOT believe Obama meant “PERSONAL” responsibliity. It would be a nice hope, but I don’t think that is true. Obama was talking about FEDERAL responsiblity; to wit, handing our more FREE MONEY.
My thoughts have been confirmed by Obama’s actions on the UNstimulus Bill. He is going to handout checks to everyone for $1,000 each. Even to those who no longer pay any federal income taxes. It is a LIE to call this a tax cut. It is strictly a redistribution of wealth or at best, more deficit spending of money our nation does not have.
Obamaspeak = exact opposite of what word mean.
Conservatism is the disease that has nearly brought this country to it’s knees. The last two elections have proven it.
Failed ideologies and empty promises have cost the conservatives majorities in both the Senate, The House, and the Presidency.
Obama has a lot to prove, but I am confident that he can deliver.
NObama was only in office a couple of hours and has already issued a memo to the national parks that they are not to honor the new CCW laws allowing carry to go into effect even though it is law; he has already started anit-gun actions even though he said that absolutely would not happen during his campaign; here comes the attempt to ban all private gun ownership next; look what happened in England when that was enacted ;; crime rates in all categories are up ; some as much as 300% ; he should go to Darfur and join his brother in Al quaida and leave America alone
Astute Liberals like myself know what a failure CONS are as presidents. It was sad to see Obama show that he is really a CON during inauguration day.
For that reason, as a true patriot, I must opppose our President and all of his failed CON ideas.
Amazing how the conservatives supported a president who, during his eight years, led this country into the mess we’re in now, but want to condemn a president who has held office for one week.
The thing that conservatives cannot undestand it that personal respsnsibility is a first-person thing, i.e., I am going to take responsibility, and do the right thing. Yes, that means expecting responsible behavior from others, but it’s ultminately a call for each of us and all of us to fix this mess together.
Conservatives have redefined “personal responsibility” as a middle finger poking out from a speeding SUV. But it takes zero responsibility to demand that someone else be responsible.
Unfortunately, the only way to fix a consumer economy is to consume, which is irresponsible.
“Conservatives have redefined “personal responsibility” as a middle finger poking out from a speeding SUV.”
-Rage
Yep, Rage is so right. That guy who gives you the finger, while cutting you off in his big gas hogging SUV… is a CON! How do we know this?! Well nevermind, trust us, he is a CON.
That guy who steals your parking space while you were waiting minutes for it? He is a CON too.
You see everything that makes your life unpleasant, is because of CONS.
Unfortunately, now Obama is a CON….Oh brother.
“but want to condemn a president who has held office for one week.”
It is just as amazing that libs want to glorify him and praise him without question on his knee jerk policy calls.
Sounds awful familiar.
Heh, RFL, I’m tempted to say that anyone who can’t understand the point of a metaphor is a CON. . .but that wouldn’t be fair!
“That guy who gives you the finger, while cutting you off in his big gas hogging SUV…”
No, that would be Al Gore. How soon you forget.
American_Way
Posted January 27, 2009 at 9:06 am | Permalink
“That guy who gives you the finger, while cutting you off in his big gas hogging SUV…”
No, that would be Al Gore. How soon you forget.
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LMFAO!
Each day why anyone is concerned with what today’s Conservatives think becomes more of an enigma to me. Their leadership isn’t conservative in the meaning that makes sense, and they’ve proven how badly they can mess everything up. They aren’t offering any solutions.
While the new Democratic leadership is busy healing a very sick America, they will continue to complain, and shake in their boots about their worst nightmares coming true. They are acclimated to being afraid, very afraid, because it’s what bush demanded. They aren’t going to be part of any of the solutions. All I expect from them is that they will attempt to stop, slowdown, challenge, question, object to any and all potential remedies. Where they aren’t effective with those methods, they’ll just obfuscate, and their constituency will approve!
It only takes a few thinking ones to join in making America healthy again. The rest can continue on with what hasn’t worked and most of us will see that their complaining is not helpful.
All I expect from them is that they will attempt to stop, slowdown, challenge, question, object to any and all potential remedies.
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Come up with some good, well thought out remedies, and we will talk. Don’t just add another trillion to the debt to make yourselves feel good.
Amen, Linda!
I’m just waiting for the hard-core “cons” to start putting up their Obama portraits. I knew it would happen. And when more neo-cons com out for him (they were never against him), more brain dead Bushco followers will fall right in line.
Just wait until Obaaama expands the wars. Gun-toters will bow down in awe and wonder.
“While the new Democratic leadership is busy healing a very sick America”
Oh please! Stop it! You got me rolling on the floor.
I have a mind picture of Obama laying hands on people.
Very poetic – but silly.
Healing my a$$. He is about to spend more money that will do nothing to help our economy, will line the pockets of his own (ACORN for example), and put in place social programs democrats have long longed for. Has little to do with stimulating the economy.
Lot’s of pork and items which have nothing to do with the economy.
Continue to look through your rose colored glasses.
Never question anything.
Obama is showing himself to be neither Lib nor CON; he’s pragmatic–he does what he thinks will work.
That’s the CHANGE he promised–dump the right-wing ideology, the “free market theology” and do what works.
AmWay–
You and your fellow parishioners at the Church of the Holy Incarnate Market Place (CHIMPS) have brought this country and indeed the world to the brink of a 30’s style depression.
Screw you and the horse you rode in on.
You lost any authority to have an opinion long ago.
Isn’t healing the nation what Abraham Lincoln is credited for? (still laughing)
Better move that Lincoln Memorial over to make room for the Obama one. And the guys been in office one week.
“Their leadership isn’t conservative in the meaning that makes sense,”
Okay. so the new CONS are not really CONS at all?
Oh I see, they are not conservative because nothing they say makes sense. If it made sense then they would be conservative. But then we would have to oppose them just the same because well, we are the Anti-CONS.
Can someone tell me who the CONS are and what makes them a CON? Or perhaps we can just bash the mystical, proverbial CON all day long. That is a lot of Fun!!!
“You lost any authority to have an opinion long ago.”
Sounds just like a lib…
Better hurry up and get the Fairness Doctrine updated. You are loosing face on the airwaves everyday you procrastinate.
“authority” = “right” = only libs have those. (LMFAO)
“Come up with some good, well thought out remedies, and we will talk. Don’t just add another trillion to the debt to make yourselves feel good.”
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ANTI, if you don’t like the ones that are on the table, come up with some of your own.
“Can someone tell me who the CONS are and what makes them a CON? Or perhaps we can just bash the mystical, proverbial CON all day long. That is a lot of Fun!!!”
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I agree completely, RFL! I would like to know that too and it should be fun to hear what it is.
ANTI, if you don’t like the ones that are on the table, come up with some of your own.
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No more pork.
No more Bailouts.
Simple.
Oh and don’t REWARD failure!
“The thing that conservatives cannot undestand it that personal respsnsibility is a first-person thing, i.e., I am going to take responsibility, and do the right thing.”
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Liberals only want to give other peoples money to charities. All talk and no show.
“Although liberal families’ incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html
ANTI,
You should communicate those ideas and specific details of your plans to your elected leadership! They need them badly as all I’ve heard them have is complaints.
Linda,
There is no link yet to what the congress is planning to pass in their bill. We only have the house version, and that is still in discussion with the ONE.
You don’t have your own source. People who point fingers should always remember when you do that you have a few pointing back at yourself.
“No more pork.
No more Bailouts.
Simple.”
Anti,
Even better
Congress should immediately adjourn. Recess until June.
Obama hit the ground running..and the cons can’t stand it.
I’ve not seen this much bitterness and whining in a long time. Time to grow up guys..are you going to be part of the problem, or part of the solution?
If you care about your country, then I’d suggest the later. You can go to Obama’s web site and sign up to make a difference.
American_Way,
I’m well aware that the details aren’t ironed out. I’m not asking to see them, so maybe you should point all those fingers to those who are.
Mary,
Does it seem they are even more afraid? Afraid the new Democratic majorities will be able to meet America’s challenges? That’s how it seems to me!
Old, ineffective, outdated and irresponsible ideas are a thing of the past in America.
Conservatism fits into these failed categories.
Pragmatic, intelligent thinking will help us out of this mess that the conservatives have created.
We now have an intellectual president who is leading a nation of engaged pragmatists vs. whining idealogues.
Which group are you in?
That’s the CHANGE he promised–dump the right-wing ideology, the “free market theology” and do what works.
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lol @ calling what we have a free-market. America is a centrally planned economy, and those who planned it screwed up and now we are giving them even more power to fix their mistake.
What would work is to let failed companies go bankrupt and let the liquidation of assets occur. The people who take over those assets will hopefully do a better job than the incompetents who ran the assets before.
“Does it seem they are even more afraid?”
I dont know why they are so afraid.
They are STILL safe from gay marriage…
Unfortunately, Capn does a miserable job persuading people to reject the free market to accept more centralized control. He should provide for more details for how this will help American citizens instead of just criticizing people and CONS (you know, the people who give you the finger from their SUV).
Capn should tell you that the free market means each and ever citizen making his and her own decisions about where they want their money directed conscerning which goods and services they value the most. Obviously, we liberals know that this is bad.
The progressive way that will lead us to the prosperous future, is to ensure that the Federal Government makes those decisions for you. That way, you do not have to work to hard at figuring out how you want your money to be spent. For example, the government will decide what level of health care you need for you family regardless of your actual needs. It will bill you more then what you actually receive since the government needs more money to pay for people who are not able to pay taxes at all. It’s that simple. Essentially, government making decisions for you is like being serf under a feudal Lord working more for less. You know, the good old days!
Now do you see how effective Capn’s plan is for America? If only he did a better job of explaining it.
“Essentially, government making decisions for you is like being serf under a feudal Lord working more for less.”
And convinced that the Lord loves you.
“Essentially, government making decisions for you is like being serf under a feudal Lord working more for less.”
And convinced that the Lord is always correct.
I may not agree with ACORN and its tactics, but just what exactly have they been tried and convicted of again?
“Essentially, government making decisions for you is like being serf under a feudal Lord working more for less.”
“leadership is busy healing a very sick”
like we are puppies needing a masters guiding hand.
See “Frontline: Sick Around the World” for starters, RFL.
We spend 16 percent of our GDP on “health care” (actually sick care) while Taiwan which built their system from scratch 20 years ago spends barely 6 percent.
Health care experts around the world say things like “America doesn’t have a ‘health care system.’ It has an inefficient patchwork of market-place fixes. What America has is what you get when you have no system.”
They showed Grannies marching in the streets of London holding signs in response to more competition in their system that read: “WE DON’T WANT US STYLE HEALTH CARE!”
The marketplace has utterly failed Americans on accessible, affordable health care. It’s a prime reason that we’re less competitive against the EU and Asian competitors.
As for being a serf under a feudal lord, 21st Century capitalism is exactly what the feudalist system looks like transposed to our age.
The economic serfs that have no choice but to work at Wal-Mart are exhibit A.
Who profits from the worker getting paid less? Working harder and more productively and getting less to show for it?
Not the employees of state or federal government.
It’s the capitalist Lord of the Manor who takes the wealth the workers (serfs) create and keeps it for himself.
“The economic serfs that have no choice but to work at Wal-Mart”
Like a little wine with that Capn?
Good grief! Everyone can’t work on the top floor.
Someday if you ever get to the top and look down, it will put a different perspective on life for you Capn. Some of us see where we started and worked our way up by the boot straps.
AW, wake up:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=layoffs&btnG=Search+News
donndublin,
“Liberals only want to give other peoples money to charities. All talk and no show.”
Bravo!
“Good grief! Everyone can’t work on the top floor.” — American_Way
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What difference does it make what floor they work on, what work they do? Every working man and woman deserves to be treated with dignity, to have their contribution valued. While you were working your way up did you do worthwhile work or did you have to get to the top before you and your contribution were worthy? Is there room in your scenario for the person who is absolutely happy and satisfied with where they are?
“Someday if you ever get to the top and look down . . . ”
You are such an arrogant plick, AmWay.
As if the only reason I’m not happy with America’s de facto slavery is because I don’t personally benefit enough from it.
I’m perfectly satisfied with the money I make. My house in college hill is paid off. In fact I bought it for cash. My cars are paid off (also bought with cash money). I don’t believe in taking on debt as a rule.
It’s my kids who grew up under Reaganomics and BushCONs who don’t have the opportunities I had . . .
Oh, yeah.
The tickets are already booked for my ten day trip to the Bahamas in March.
What a bitter, jealous man I am of those damn rich people!
I’m reading the a lot of CON cheap shots.
Not reading why Taiwan spends 6 percent of GDP on its gov’t healthcare and has great outcomes and we spend 16 percent under “theological capitalism” and one-third of the population isn’t even covered.
I’m sure if I were “on the top looking down” like Lord of the Manor AmWay, I wouldn’t give a ship about the peons laboring paycheck to paycheck and one sickness away from bankruptcy.
Rage
AW, wake up:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=layoffs&btnG=Search+News
History repeats itself?
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Jimmy_Carter_Budget_&_Economy.htm
“The economic serfs that have no choice but to work at Wal-Mart are exhibit A.”
See there Capn goes again leaving out key details about how good these people would have it if they were not forced to work at Walmart.
Capn, tell all the deniers about all the choices these Walmart employees would have if there were no Walmart!
Think of all the choices!
Actually with the pound and the Euro tanking against the dollar, it looks like this summer may be the perfect time for another European vacation.
I’ll spend the entire time seething about how I should be “at the top looking down.”
RFL–
You challenged me to do a better job explaining.
You explain why we spend so much and get so little in our health care “system” vs. Taiwan, and I’ll answer your questions.
“Not reading why Taiwan spends 6 percent of GDP on its gov’t healthcare”
Key details are missing here. Like Taiwan being a CON country. The Koumintang fled the mainland prior the communist takeover in 1949 to avoid communist rule. It has been a pitiful example of capitalistic CON government incompetence ever since. Per Capita Taiwanese being burdened by a much higher standard of living then their communist Chinese counterparts in the mainland. Oh what a failure it has been to live in Capitalistic Taiwan and be forced to live in a developed country.
Yeah, I know the history of the Guomingdong pretty well, RFL, since I frikkin’ lived in China.
But that in no way explains how their gov’t designed system beats our marketplace driven system hands down.
RFL refuses to do research on this issue. Because to become informed is to longer remain a CON . . .
Since there’s a lot more uninformed people than informed in the US, the CONs have a lot of power.
“Every working man and woman deserves to be treated with dignity, to have their contribution valued”
Who would be against that glorious statement?
And how exactly is the One Obama and the democrats in congress going to accomplish that?
Be specific.
“one-third of the population isn’t even covered”
That so Capn? Can you point me to a link. This is terrible news. Last I heard it was 47 million Americans didn’t have health insurance.
“Who would be against that glorious statement?”
You’re against it, AmWay.
You won’t even support a “living wage” law that requires employers to pay a salary to full-timers that doesn’t leave them in poverty.
“So the United States spends too much on health care, and doesn’t even cover everybody. But the Taiwanese don’t bring in enough money to pay for all the services they offer.”
“So actually, as we speak, the government is borrowing from banks to pay what there isn’t enough to pay the providers,” Cheng says.
Taiwan’s politicians are reluctant to increase premiums: they’re afraid the voters will punish them
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89651916
How is this for long term planning? Capn forgot to tell us that the Taiwanese government is going to go broke due to their new found love of universal healthcare. Taiwan began as the capitilistic version of China and flourished becuase of it. Ten years ago, they decided they wnanted more. Well, for the brief time being they are getting more, but only by borrowing from future stakeholders (their own children).
“Is there room in your scenario for the person who is absolutely happy and satisfied with where they are?”
Psssst! Linda! It isn’t me who posted about unhappy people “forced” to slave away at Walmart. Keep up would you.
I see many smiling faces when I go to Walmart. Starting with the greeter.
OMGorsh, AmWay, you’re right.
It’s one-sixth of the population who isn’t even covered.
Now, deal with the substance of my argument.
If you can . . .
“You’re against it, AmWay.”
Capn someone pi$$ in your wheaties today?
First you posted that I (cons) no longer have the “authority” to post.
And now you put words in my mouth I didn’t say.
If you are the shining example of the socialists movement, I think they need brighter lights.
Is that all you got, AmWay? That Taiwan borrows rather than raise premimums?
Wow. Soon they’ll be spending 8 percent of GDP on health care . . . one-half of what we spend.
So you do support a “living wage” law, AmWay?
Great!
Glad to have you on our side of that important issue.
I can’t deal with substance where none exists Capn.
You exaggerate to make your socialize medicine agenda sound more pressing.
It has been demonstrated repeatedly on this blog that the 47 million is actually another illusion by the left. Take out your 20 million illegal aliens (at least until Obama makes the criminals heros), take out those who work for employers who offer healthcare, but the workers refuse to pay for it, and a few other sundry padding to your numbers – and you come to the truth.
Over 90% of Americans 275,000,000 of us – DO have healthcare insurance.
I am more than happy to work with Obama to come up with a plan to help the small minority of Americans who truly need assistance in obtaining healthcare insurance.
“So you do support a “living wage” law, AmWay?Great!”
Again, putting words in my mouth. Knight in unshiny armor for the Socialist agenda?
Start with the exemptions for waiters, bar tenders, and those employed by the archaic “tipping” resturaunt industry. End the tip. Pay them minimum wage.
Wow! Obama’s been in office for a whole week. Shouldn’t he be on vacation cutting brush by now?
Reading “My Pet Goat”?
“American_Way’s” Stimulus Prgram –
“End the tip.”
It’s posts like this one who help me imagine the typical CONs who participate in this forum. They’re sitting in flatulence-stained HoveRound wheelchairs hoping the battery will recharge by 3:30 so they can go out on the porch and yell at schoolchildren playing on the yard. For Jesus.
Angry old white dudes who won’t pay a tip in a place with a salad bar “…because I’m doing her job; who clip two-for-one Early Bird dinner coupons and grudgingly leave 10% of the tab instead of a decent tip for the full value of the meal.
“End the tip.”
But, but… isn’t that the way they do it in SOCIALIST Europe?
XXX. bush only reads books when country is under attack, other than that he wasnt much of a reader.
According to the world health organization, the United States ranks as follows:
37th in health systems.
24th in life expectancy.
72nd in health performance.
2nd in total health expenditures.
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
Pretty sad when we rank below third world countries. But the Republicans think we’re doing okay. Since we are, or were, the richest nation in the world, one would think we could supply our citizens with the best health care in the world. We are not. The Republicans are against abortion, but could care less about the child after it’s born…think SCHIP.
We finally get a President who wants to turn that around, and the Republicans go nuts, claiming socialism. It might bite into their pocketbooks to help a child get health insurance and live a full, healthy life: Opps, sorry honey, but them d amn kids took our monthly Lexus payment so they could get that liver transplant they need to survive.
And the Republicans have the gall to complain about other countries health care systems. Jimmy was right: there ain’t no life nowhere.
How’s that for substance, amway.
JM Walker,
What are those numbers based on?
Looks like things like “distribution” and “Fairness”
…”30′S STYLE DEPRESSION”-The Good Captain
That’s about to look like a picnic. And it wasn’t just the “right” you goof.
ALL of you tards that want to keep this “Groundhog’s Day” crap up..eff yourselves.
You’ll keep this same day going on and on and on and on and on and on and on…
No, you think that Obama is different, that he’s bringing change, “doing whatever works”. You’re lost and until we stop cheering for the man just cause “he’s changed history”, “he’s the first black President” or that he’s plain, “smarter than Bush”.
EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID IS TRUE OR IS COMING TO FRUITION RIGHT NOW. Like it or not, I was/am right and you all are/were DEAD WRONG.
Get over your stupid left/right crap and see thing’s for what they are, not how you wish them to be. Or else we’re toast and there’s gonna be a lot of piszed of people and you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Obama has a job to do and it has nothing to do with “helping” you zealots.
You think we’re all ugly and rude and mean on here now? When this society collapses, you’ll be a sad, stupid lot.
It will happen.
WAKE UP DUMMIES (for the millionth goddam time).
“Pleefer” –
Where did you get your sackcloth robes?
Forget it…who cares?
You all can ignore it, make fun of me for my “clairvoyance” and pass the day…business as usual.
I don’t guess anything, the elite have a plan to get rid of us all. And they’ll use the false paradigm of the left and right, they’ll use AGW, they’ll use our Monopoly money all against us. They use our military and secretiveness (Obama included). They’ll use the media and disinformation. They’ll use an engineered crises of any kind to bring a global society ran by their banks. Laugh all you want dummies.
If you don’t snap out of it, there won’t be any need to have arguments anymore, everything will be decided for us. Oh wait…that’s already happening.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483477,00.html
Uh oh Cosmo, science may be faulty after all.
But this is Fox, so judgment is left to you.
“Nathaniel
Posted January 27, 2009 at 11:52 am | Permalink
JM Walker,
What are those numbers based on?
Looks like things like “distribution” and “Fairness””
Yeah, those numbers are surely skewed. If you make more than $1million a year, the USA has the best healthcare in the world.
“Pleefer
Posted January 27, 2009 at 12:14 pm | Permalink
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483477,00.html
Uh oh Cosmo, science may be faulty after all.
But this is Fox, so judgment is left to you.”
ummm… that article is based on science.
Oh well, if their scientific hypothesis is correct the Earth will not be destroyed be a blackhole created in the LHC. If other teams’ hypotheses are correct, we will all die when the earth is destroyed shortly after the LHC fully fires up.
But, those are just scientific hypotheses…
Monkey, I read boring documents and papers by the IMF and World Bank and The United Nations. I read books by Carroll Quigley and Zbigniew Brzezinski and boring people like that. I know what the hell I’m talking about.
I lay off the Archie comics that you dig on.
You’re an ignorant dolt that likes to act like he’s smart and a memeber of some intelligentsia. You live in a dream world wherein you are a memeber of the elite yourself. This world of yours, has you living in harmony and solidarity (with the ultra powerful and educated). Heck, you may be a professor at WSU for all I know. It would be fitting and not at all surprising. But since I care nothing about you (other than a wish and a prayer that you completely fail in life…and that’s really a blanket statement for the vast majority of the poster’s who are in heaven because “they won” on here), you feel free to make as many snide comments as you wish. I hope you feel the Change this year.
It’s BASED ON THEORIES…sorry hypothesis. Not science. If it wasn’t based on a theory, then there would be NO creason to retract the “scientific conclusion” that the LHC was safe and would not “destroy the world”.
A hypothesis is the best qualifier and scape goat a scientist ever came up with.
We KNOW nothing.
“Pleefer
Posted January 27, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink
It’s BASED ON THEORIES…sorry hypothesis. Not science. If it wasn’t based on a theory, then there would be NO creason to retract the “scientific conclusion” that the LHC was safe and would not “destroy the world”.
A hypothesis is the best qualifier and scape goat a scientist ever came up with.
We KNOW nothing.”
Well, I can’t argue with that.
(not because you are right, but because I do not feel like trying to educate those who cannot learn)
“brian_nuevo
Posted January 27, 2009 at 12:32 pm | Permalink
(not because you are right, but because I do not feel like trying to educate those who cannot learn)”
Sorry, I meant to say ‘refuse to learn’. I am sure you are quite capable of learning.
“Pleefer” cues the Theremin music –
“You’re an ignorant dolt that likes to act like he’s smart and a memeber of some intelligentsia. You live in a dream world wherein you are a memeber of the elite yourself. “
You’ve nailed me, “Pleefer.” I am a “memeber” of elitists with a spell-checker installed on my computer.
“This world of yours… feel free to make as many snide comments as you wish.”
Thanks, “Pleefer!” I was afraid some of my snarks were getting under your skin.
“I hope you feel the Change this year.”
Thanks again! A hot flash might be welcome on a day like this.
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CapnAmerica
Posted January 27, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink
I’m perfectly satisfied with the money I make. My house in college hill is paid off. In fact I bought it for cash. My cars are paid off (also bought with cash money). I don’t believe in taking on debt as a rule.
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Another rich guilt-ridden liberal who either inherited his money or becomes a turncoat and doesn’t want others to achieve what he has with the exception of his kids.
“donndublin
Posted January 27, 2009 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
Another rich guilt-ridden…who either inherited his money or becomes a turncoat and doesn’t want others to achieve what he has with the exception of his kids.”
donnndublin you are confused. That is the definition of a conservative.
(e.g. Bush family, McCain family, Murdoch family)
“A hot flash might be welcome on a day like this.” — Monkeyhawk
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I’m going to ask you to listen to me because I have some experience, and I’ve done some reading on the subject too. I acknowledge that you are an adult, have intelligence which you’ve demonstrated here on the blog, and that you know what it takes to make your world happy for you. Sometimes we decide not to do what might be best for us just because it wouldn’t make our existence a happy one. I’ll just offer this as advice and you are free to consider it for yourself, or not.
Buy an electric blanket. They have controls.
;-)
“lindainks55″ advises –
“Buy an electric blanket. They have controls.
;-)”
I do have an electric blanket. The kitty hogs it.
“A hot flash might be welcome on a day like this.” — Monkeyhawk
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So, if you can’t take my advice you better listen up bub!
I read boring documents and papers by the most highly regarded gynecologists. I read books by Julia V. Johnson, Jacqueline M. Wilentz and boring people like that. I know what the hell I’m talking about.
I lay off the Archie comics that you dig on.
You’re an ignorant dolt that likes to act like he’s smart and a memeber of some intelligentsia. You live in a dream world wherein you are a memeber of the elite yourself. This world of yours, has you living in harmony and solidarity (with the ultra powerful and educated).
I’m telling YOU — BUY AN ELECTRIC BLANKET! ANOTHER ONE!! YOU HEAR ME???????????? FOR THE SECONDTEENTH TIME??????????
FUG ALL OF YOU.
ENJOY THE DEPRESSION. AND IF YOUR LITTLE KIDDIES NEED SOME SOUP…GOOD THING YOU’LL BE VOLUNTEERING IN OBAMA’S SOUP KITCHEN.
I’ll leave your stupid blog…this time for real. I love myself too much to hang around here.
Eat schitt and happy ‘09!
Remember I’ve got a very public forum in which I’ll be sure to advise people to ask other’s whom they voted for, before they lend any help to anyone.
May God help you.
“Pleefer” departs with –
“… I love myself too much….
Ah…
(Oh, heck. Nevermind.)
AmWay:
“Continue to look through your rose colored glasses.
Never question anything.”
Always worked for you CONs the last eight years, didn’t it?
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 27, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Permalink
“donndublin
Posted January 27, 2009 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
Another rich guilt-ridden…who either inherited his money or becomes a turncoat and doesn’t want others to achieve what he has with the exception of his kids.”
donnndublin you are confused. That is the definition of a conservative.
(e.g. Bush family, McCain family, Murdoch family)
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Let’s not forget the super rich i.e. John Kerry, David Rockefeller, Ted Kennedy, Jane Harman, Diane Feinstein, Frank Lautenberg …..
These are 6 out the top ten in congress which are liberal democrats.
“donndublin
Posted January 27, 2009 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 27, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Permalink
“donndublin
Posted January 27, 2009 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
Another rich guilt-ridden…who either inherited his money or becomes a turncoat and doesn’t want others to achieve what he has with the exception of his kids.”
donnndublin you are confused. That is the definition of a conservative.
(e.g. Bush family, McCain family, Murdoch family)
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Let’s not forget the super rich i.e. John Kerry, David Rockefeller, Ted Kennedy, Jane Harman, Diane Feinstein, Frank Lautenberg …..
These are 6 out the top ten in congress which are liberal democrats.”
Oh lets not limit it to Congress…
Most of the rich families in America (in the real world outside of Congress) are conservative. Especially those with ‘family’ money, trust funds, or inheritances.
…While I will support him, even if I disagree with some of his policies, I offer the following suggestions.
2. Have Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Daschle appoint a committee to recommend a new law to be voted up or down by the Congress creating universal medical insurance for all Americans. Don’t wait for our economic problems to be solved. Simply provide that the annual national expenditure for medical care not exceed the portion of our gross domestic product spent currently.
–Ed Koch
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/01/obama_a_moderate_with_a_mandat.html
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According to the World Health Organization, the US spent 15.2% of GDP on healthcare in 2005.
2005 GDP was measured at $ 12.36 trillion. GDP has grown on average roughly 4% each year since 2005 (2008 will likely show a contraction of 2007 GDP, however).
Koch’s rule would cap 2009 national healthcare transfers at roughly $2 trillion.
It’s an interesting back-of-the-envelope analysis. $2 trillion is a heckuva lot of money…which comes to something between $1,000 – $10,000 per each of 300 million US citizens.
Is there a payback here? I think there is. GDP would be subject to a stimmulus provided by a more liquid job/career market. Lots of people who are currently locked into dead-end jobs – because they need the health insurance – would be free to work at something they’re more productive at. The increased productivity would be at the heart of the GDP stimulus. They’d also be happier, perhaps reducing the amount of healthcare consumed.
Certainly Taiwan has made this work for them, resulting in their go-go growth, an East Asian tiger economy. I think the US could ride that tiger, too.
“Is there a payback here? I think there is. GDP would be subject to a stimmulus provided by a more liquid job/career market. Lots of people who are currently locked into dead-end jobs – because they need the health insurance – would be free to work at something they’re more productive at. The increased productivity would be at the heart of the GDP stimulus. They’d also be happier, perhaps reducing the amount of healthcare consumed.”
Dont forget the stimulus it would provide for entrepreneurship too. The repukes here like to argue about this, but a lot of folks I’ve worked with over the years had great ideas for new businesses, but they couldnt personally quit their jobs and start the business because they needed the health insurance provided by their employers.