A Wichita woman wrote a commentary today’s Eagle complaining about how some retailers ask to see your receipt before you can leave the store. “Why do stores insult their customers by treating them like thieves?” she asked. She plans to keep walking when they ask her, and then sue for false imprisonment if they detain her.
This is actually an interesting legal question. It is OK if stores such as Sam’s Club ask to see receipts, because that’s part of their membership agreements. But other retailers are supposed to be able to show reasonable cause to suspect someone of being a thief. Refusing to show a receipt isn’t reasonable cause.
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Knowing how much shoplifting goes on and how much it increases the cost of merchandise for honest shoppers – why would anyone object to a few second to show a receipt while leaving the store.
What are they hiding?
because it is a hassle and they don’t have to
If you don’t like it don’t go there.
If it’s a “smoking allowed” place, don’t go there.
OOOPS! The Nanny Staters changed that.
Isn’t it more reasonable to ask why stores ask customers leaving checkout lines to see their receipts. Why wouldn’t the store ensure their are procedures to ring up everything in a customer’s cart? Why wouldn’t stores hire enough security to catch theft if shrinkage is that much of a problem?
I’m not suprised it’s a conservative that first trots out the whole “if you’re not hiding anything you don’t have to worry”.
Stores can’t require you to show your receipt, and retail personnel not instructed to take further action if someone walks on by.
I do usually show my receipt unless I’m in a hurry and it’s crowded, or if I’m just feeling ornery.
However, setting off a metal detector might be probable cause to detain. IANAL.
Also, a store has every right to bar you from coming back if you dodge the receipt-check. But not to detain you.
Hmm..
Must be a slow news day.
An interesting idea…
Maybe I’ll try it.
As much as I would hate to go to Walmart, it might be fun to RUN past the receipt checker and see if they give chase!
Any legal eagles know if Kansas has a “shopkeeper’s privilege” exception for false imprisonment?
“Any legal eagles know if Kansas has a “shopkeeper’s privilege” exception for false imprisonment?”
Philllip Brownlee could have made one phone call to help his story, but didn’t. Too lazy I suppose.
Tara wouldn’t you know it would be a liberal (BJ) who would think it funny to run past the checker. BTW I do show my receipt at Sams because that is the accepted practice. I have never been asked to show my receipt at a Walmart and the only ones I have seen are people whose purchase set off the alarm.
Don’t shop there. If they don’t want you as a customer, oblige them. I don’t go to WalMart and don’t buy enough to justify a Sam’s membership,
TG&Y, a store that used to exist, made you go to a special place to get your check okd, then demanded three forms of ID, then you had to stand in the checkout line. I did it once and never went back.
Dennis
Any legal eagles know if Kansas has a “shopkeeper’s privilege” exception for false imprisonment?
Yes, they do. KSA 21-3424(c). And yes, it must be a slow news day.
Go for it, JR. And when the judge laughs your case out of court, don’t say I didn’t warn you.
“I did it once and never went back.
Dennis”
Good for you. That’s how it works.
How is TG&Y doing, by the way?
Well, I read the ladies little letter to the editor and she is a nut.
I have no problem showing Sams club my reciept on the way out. Twice they have caught a mistake, once in my favor and once in the store’s.
Measures in place to prevent shoplifting are a benefit to everyone. Sams has very reasonable prices and I enjoy taking advantage of them.
“HLP
Posted January 14, 2009 at 2:44 pm | Permalink
…Sams has very reasonable prices and I enjoy taking advantage of them.”
as do they enjoy taking advantage of you.
“Well, I read the ladies little letter to the editor and she is a nut.”
Hyperbole nut.
Ok,
That wasn’t an insult, just an observation. I might have worded it wrong.
I’d predict liberals to say “Hey, it’s not REQUIRED, so why should I let them inspect me?”
I’d predict conservatives to say “Hey, it takes 2 seconds, if refuse you must have something to hide”
I just thought it was amusing that the response to such a trivial topic can give insight into one’s broader political philosophy…
I think it is strange that the group usually opposed to excess rules and regulations is the group most willing to accept a store rule like this
It’s all a moot point anyway. Almost every single retailer has a store policy that employees can’t confront (let alone detain) shoppers unless they see them shoplift firsthand or on the CCTV. Even if there’s a big unsightly Wii-Shaped bulge under their coat, you can’t really do a whole lot unless you observed them stealing it.
When I worked retail in high school, it was almost infuriating to see people walk out with stuff they lifted. They didn’t pay me enough to care that much, though :)
okobserver – do you live in Wichita? The Walmarts I have been to in Wichita certainly do ask to see people’s receipts and most have have not even gone through the alarm system yet.
Rather than making this a big legal issue, I see this as a store’s policy. Most everybody knows Walmart is the retail store that does this practice and if you don’t like it, then don’t shop there.
What I really find annoying is when the receipt-checker lady is watching my husband and I check out in the Express Lane and then she decides to ask for our receipt. This, in my opinion, is carrying it too far. I usually just laugh and say something about her just watching me check out and she usually grins and says ‘I have to do this’.
BTW – if shoplifting is such a big worry, then Walmart might want to watch their employees who are loading stuff out the back doors to their buddies in trucks. I know a few people who work at Walmart and they say this happens all the time.
Do liberals shop places like WalMart, Sam’s or Costco? Gee, I thought those places were only for conservative, Bible-totin’, NASCAR lovin’ rednecks.
Do liberals shop places like WalMart, Sam’s or Costco?
Of course not, truth. Liberals like big department stores where the same stuff gets a bigger markup and larger profit margin. It’s worth the extra cost just to wear that smug air of superiority all day long.
“Liberals like big department stores where the same stuff gets a bigger markup and larger profit margin”
The crap is still from China.
Except for Sams I have never run into this. I suppose it would strike me as a bit silly since I tend to be on a fairly short path from cash register to door anyway.
My only problem with it might be at Dillons if I hadn’t bothered to grab the receipt off the self-serve checkout. Otherwise maybe a bit os a hassle if it is buried in the bottom of the bag.
“GMC70
Posted January 14, 2009 at 3:36 pm | Permalink
Do liberals shop places like WalMart, Sam’s or Costco?
Of course not, truth.”
Haven’t been in a Costco for a while but Sams and WM are pretty regular stops for me.
“yum_drop
Posted January 14, 2009 at 3:08 pm | Permalink
What I really find annoying is when the receipt-checker lady is watching my husband and I check out in the Express Lane and then she decides to ask for our receipt. This, in my opinion, is carrying it too far. I usually just laugh and say something about her just watching me check out and she usually grins and says ‘I have to do this’.”
I agree… they watch you leave the checkout line then ask to see your receipt. It just seems stupid and a waste of time.
Next time my response to their ‘I have to do this’ will be “I don’t.”
“The crap is still from China.”
They buy it from Walmart.
“the_truth_hurts
Posted January 14, 2009 at 3:30 pm | Permalink
Do liberals shop places like WalMart, Sam’s or Costco?”
I am a fiscal conservative so I like to shop where I will pay the lowest prices.
One company even compares each item on your receipt to what’s in your cart or bag — then marks your receipt with a bright marking pen.
Tara is isn’t that i cave to the store’s policy. It is that I pick my battles and this one is too small to worry about.
Sams checks number of items then uses a marker to show they looked at it. I know in many instances they just give it a glance because they are carrying on a conversation while this is happening.
Figure GMC as his usual fud duddiness.
Hell I wouldn’t do it to make a legal case. I’d just do it for laughs!
Do you know how to laugh, JR?
You certainly wouldn’t know same from this blog.
I hold up my receipt on the way out. Don’t shop at Walmart very much though.
I would hate to have one of those 80 year old granny greeters tackle me and throw me to the ground. That would be humiliating! :D
With the cons that post here GMC, it is hard NOT to laugh. You are particularly amusing in your rather pompous way.
Snubbing authority and authoritarian practices can be fun. That lady is one funny writer!
Here you are at one of the cash registers near the door, you pay for your stuff and the cashier hands to you your receipt.
All the while the guard is standing there watching this and yet when you get to the exit door he asks to see your receipt.
No kidding, this actually happens!
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BlueJay
Posted January 14, 2009 at 1:48 pm | Permalink
An interesting idea…
Maybe I’ll try it.
As much as I would hate to go to Walmart, it might be fun to RUN past the receipt checker and see if they give chase!
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The reason YOU run past the receipt checker is the reason they check and it’s not for fun thief.
“donndublin
Posted January 14, 2009 at 5:53 pm | Permalink
…The reason YOU run past the receipt checker is the reason they check and it’s not for fun thief.”
don knows because her job is checking receipts at WalMart
BlueJay
Posted January 14, 2009 at 1:48 pm | Permalink
As much as I would hate to go to Walmart, it might be fun to RUN past the receipt checker and see if they give chase!
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donndublin
Posted January 14, 2009 at 5:53 pm | Permalink
The reason YOU run past the receipt checker is the reason they check and it’s not for fun thief.
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lol
And the reason YOU do not run past the checker is that you apparently have a rather large pole up yer keister, grandma.
IMO Donn is a rather unusual name for an old lady.
The Wal-Mart I use to work at a lady set off the “lost control system” and the door greeter approached her and asked to see her receipt and her bags. Later she sued the store saying she was a Jew whom was imprisoned by the Nazi and the blue vest reminded her of the Concentration guards!
All the clerks can do is ask you to do is come back into the store.
It’s amazing how so many people can say Kansans are so hospitable toward others and then read crap like this.
YOU KNOW its interesting, the same people who complain about this are the same ones who defend spying on US citizens. I’ve seen it.
The other day I’m certain a man who ignored being stopped was in fact, shoplifting. I think if it defends taxpayers from having to eat thieving costs, it should be policy that you be required to produce a receipt if you’re walking out of their store with their products.
HEY RETAILERS,
Do you find Brownlee’s typical smug attitude toward you simply trying to protect your merchandise at little inconvenience to your patrons offensive?
Yes, liberals are like that.
Send a message to such smug liberals.
Pull your advertising dollars in January.
I had been stopped at one of the big box companies. They actually check the electronics and certain other items which will set off the alarms. So we went through the whole list, and couldn’t figure out why I was still setting off the alarms…and then the guy got it…it was the sunglasses that I had stuck on top of my head after the lady rung them up. He checked to make sure sunglasses were on there, and we were on our way.
The thing is you just can’t trust people anymore.
The incident in the above post the gentleman was wearing a DAV cap, old man, and his acts were completely suspicious after he left the store. I’m certain he used his veteran status and old man status pretending to be deaf. And no, they won’t chase you down, but I think they should.
Bryan are you just a total idiot? Well, I already knew you were, but hey. Brownlee’s post wasn’t at all disrespectful to retailers.
“Political_mama
Posted January 14, 2009 at 8:30 pm | Permalink
YOU KNOW its interesting, the same people who complain about this are the same ones who defend spying on US citizens….”
Not everyone. I complain about this and I am completely against spying on US citizens.
Pmommy,
Why, yes, I must be an idiot since I wrote something with which you disagree. How could I be such a rube as to not see you as the font of all wisdom? Silly idiot, me.
Oh, it was Philll’s statement “But other retailers are supposed to be able to show reasonable cause to suspect someone of being a thief. Refusing to show a receipt isn’t reasonable cause.” that I misread as disrespectful to retailers trying to stop an epidemic of theft.
Maybe Phill should order all Eagle boxes disabled from taking quarters to open and show us all good faith by allowing his rag to be picked up on the honor system. I am sure everyone would still pay to take one, right Brownlee old boy?
RETAILERS OF SEDGWICK UNITE!!! You have the liberal overlords on the ropes, at long last.
“bjb
Posted January 14, 2009 at 9:03 pm | Permalink
…Oh, it was Philll’s statement “But other retailers are supposed to be able to show reasonable cause to suspect someone of being a thief. Refusing to show a receipt isn’t reasonable cause.” that I misread as disrespectful to retailers trying to stop an epidemic of theft.”
So in your mind posting facts about the law in the State of Kansas is disrespectful to retailers?
Get a grip.
Pmommy,
While we are name calling, how about the Eagle editorial board trying on “hypocrite”? (They do wear it so well)
When I was deputized to run Consumer Protection in Kansas the Eagle and many other official organs (including PP) decried me due to my alleged failure to pay off a $61,000 legal judgment. I was unfit to lead a civil law agency, so went the screeds, since I stiffed some plaintiffs on attorneys fees. (Ignoring the S.Ct. case that overturned said fees.)
Now, Brownlee and other libs, what say ye to this: Timothy Geithner as Treasury secretary?
Your silence is deafening.
Brian Neuron,
Take a con law and logic class, try to get Philll to go with you. Asking one to show a receipt upon leaving a store is not the same as detaining someone against an allegation of theft. I doubt any attorney will argue, with a straight face, that a merchant checking receipts is a tort — and merchants cannot violate the constitution’s protection against unreasonable searches or demands for probable cause.
Fuzzy headed libs, always looking to coddle criminals and quash rights of private property ownership.
I wonder if one has to show id to get in to see the wizards behind the curtains at the Eagle? Would that be a violation of rights to privacy, Philllll, baaaaaby?
bjb,
Your name calling, and otherwise childish ranting certainly would seem to make you unfit for a leadership role in a state department.
That and your arrest record.
http://www.pitch.com/2006-12-28/news/miss-you-brownie/
Apparently you are still bitter about posts like this: http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/bryan_brown_is_/
bjb,
it is scary that you are actually licensed to practice law
See Bryan can’t read neither. I said I agreed with the store’s right to ask for a receipt. I didn’t say they should tackle the guy who refuses, however, they should be able to call the law.
We’ve had this discussion before that the ones who are usually so against this are the conservatives.
They’ll let the cops break into your home for any reason, but holy heck if they stop and ask to see your receipt.
And yeah it IS scary that Bryan is a lawyer.
I just wonder if Bryan would liken a woman who was forced to have an illegal abortion as one who was like Rosa Parks with civil disobedience.
Timothy Geithner as Treasury secretary?
Is it that he only failed to pay his federal taxes, a violation of criminal law?
Nah, that cannot be it.
Oh, it is that is of the Left, and so is above reproach. Gotcha. Stalin used the same logic.
Well, Sherry, it seems that the overwhelming majority of people who’ve postsed here haven’t found the capacity to empathize or sympathize with you. Assuming that this body represents a cross section of the community from which the jury panel would be selected when you file that mega-million dollar law suit, you might wanna reconsider filing it. I’m sure that the big box store’s legal department has scrutinized this particular business practice and has probably had extensive experience dealing with suits with similar circumstances and merits. And I’ll just bet you may have a tough time finding an attorney in Wichita, KS who specializes in retail loss prevention policy. They probably just don’t see the big money being there. Good luck, but I intend to just keep smiling and flashing my receipt at those store employees who, incidently, have never been overzealous, insulting, rude, or even unpleasant to me.
RETAILERS,
Scan this entire post to see that many agree with you, and disagree with the Eagle. Protect yourselves from theft.
Protect Wichita from the Eagle.
Advertise on radio for the rest of the month of January.
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 14, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink
bjb,
Your name calling, and otherwise childish ranting certainly would seem to make you unfit for a leadership role in a state department.
That and your arrest record.
http://www.pitch.com/2006-12-28/news/miss-you-brownie/
Apparently you are still bitter about posts like this: http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/bryan_brown_is_/
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Boy, you are one nasty piece of work that will stoop to any level.
How about let’s put every sordid detail of your life on the blog?
I’m not a public figure…
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brian_nuevo
Posted January 14, 2009 at 10:15 pm | Permalink
I’m not a public figure…
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Perhaps not, just a gutless wonder though.
No problem, Reg.
I am not ashamed of my past.
And I am not, like the libs who run and haunt this house of hypocrisy, afraid of consistency.
Now, what about The One’s choice for Treasury? Should failure to pay the federal taxes and violation of labor laws discredit him?
Only if he is conservative!
(Move along folks, nothing to discuss here, move along to the focus that the MSM wants you to see.)
RETAILERS…..end the hypocrisy. Finish off the Pravda’s like the Eagle. Help Brownlee get to offer his liberal commentary as a hobby, not a career.
I’ll not show any receipt and will obligate the retailer to call the cops before submitting to any search.
Brian Nuevo,
Are you sure you are not a public figure?
As in an Eagle staffer, editor, or maybe even Philll himself, out here defender your own lame post?
citizen brian.
not an Eagle employee, not a family member of an Eagle employee, not a friend of any Eagle employees.
Just a private citizen who likes to call BS when I see it.
Regular
Posted January 14, 2009 at 10:17 pm | Permalink
…Perhaps not, just a gutless wonder though.”
Oh regular, you crack me up!
Brian N,
Well I do have to give you this, you are an expert on BS
G,night pmom.
Guess the Treasurer Sec question was just too easy and so you ignored it.
Or maybe did I, perhaps, to quote Kramer, “really blow your mind.”
Just my take here political mama, but I think you are getting the wrong read.
It is the cons, and you I guess too that sides with business.
I’m gonna throw my two cents in, because this story ticked me off so darn bad…
Back during the holidays, I worked a temp job for The Evil Empire (yes, as a ‘greeter’). Times are tough, and they were hiring- hey, a job’s a job.
Right before I got laid off, the store’s management REQUIRED us to start checking each and every receipt. Before that, we had to check receipts on big items, anything that wasn’t in a bag, and keep a record of all alarms.
At the same time, we got an endless amount of abuse (and VERY little support from management). I got spit on, cussed at, hit with shopping carts, flipped off, told to go f myself, etc etc etc…all for just doing my damn job. And believe me, this wasn’t by choice- if we didn’t do it, we got FIRED.
Why? Because everyone and their dog was hauling thousands of dollars in merchandise right out the doors EVERY SINGLE DAY! Bicycles. TVs. Pretty much anything that could be stolen, was stolen- they were bold as brass, and all we could do was stand there and attempt to slap a bandaid on it.
You know, I worked security for quite a few years, and never once can I recall getting anywhere near the same cr*ppy attitudes from the public like I got at The Evil Empire.
Sherry Jones needs to get off her uppity entitlement high horse before someone crams her Haagen Dazs where the sun doesn’t shine.
Back to the original point… when I was trained for security, I was taught that in order to apprehend a suspected shoplifter, I had to have “eyes on” from the moment the suspect pocketed the item all the way until after the suspect left the “point of no return” (meaning, after they had either passed the payment point or had left the building). Lose sight of them for an instant, and that’s it- they walk. Same deal with camera coverage…it has to be 100% complete, A-Z, or else it’s invalid.
I don’t know why the Evil Empire shifted from regular uniformed security to whatever flustercluck system they have now…and I don’t particularly care. And I don’t know why they apparently stopped actively and aggressively prosecuting shoplifters. Blame it on their legal department, or blame it on their numbercrunchers- whatever.
Anyway, all the people on here who are trying to be Big Billy Bada$$ need to realize that the people asking for receipts are NOT the ones that set store policy. It’s not their call. Got a beef? Fair enough- take it up with the store’s management. Write angry letters, or call the number on your receipt and talk to the Head Honcho- heck, complain to the corporate office, if it tickles your pickle. But whatever you do, please don’t abuse the folks who are just trying to do their jobs.
Do you know places that don’t have to inspect shoppers as they leave the store?
The places that provide customer service.
The places where the guy in the hardware store or the lady in the dress shop can interact with a customer, answer questions if necessary, make recommendations if appropriate… a person who knows his or her customers and their needs and desires and can fulfill them.
A few years ago a tile fell off the wall of my bathroom. One tile. No big deal.
I went to Wal-yWorld and was faced with a rack of “glues,” “cements,” “adhesives,” “caulk,” “grout,” “silicone fixatives,” and Goop. (Yeah, “Goop.” It’s a brand name.)
So I asked the lady in the blue vest what’s the difference in all these products.
Her answer:
“This one’s a dollar niney-eight, that one’s three dollars. This one is two-ninety-five but it’s bigger, so you get more….”
And I thought about that adage about knowing “…the price of everything and the value of nothing.”
You’ve gotta wonder about an enterprise that treats all its customers as if they’re leaving the scene of a crime.
Until you realize they are.
Monkeyhawk- yup, you get what you pay for. I personally would much rather spend a bit more of my money supporting a business where the emphasis was on GOOD customer service, and where the employees were treated like human beings- not slaves.
Unfortunately, convincing Americans to continually buy cheap Chinese garbage and doing everything (short of slitting throats) to pinch a penny seems to be working fairly well as a business model for the Evil Empire. I wish it weren’t so, but it is- and that’s that.
“Do you know places that don’t have to inspect shoppers as they leave the store?
The places that provide customer service.”
Funny, we do both. But then for us, it’s less about catching theives and all about inventory control. When you call or come into our store, we want to be able to tell you exactly how many we have of items A, B, and C, and if it requires DEF and K to operate, I want to know that we either have it, I can special order it, or it’s gonna be on next week’s truck.
Also, our system trips up when we try to sell something that’s not in inventory. So if a lazy salesperson doesn’t look up the item he’s putting on the ticket, or if they don’t pay attention to the serial number, or if someone already bought the item and left it behind, or were accidentally rung up for too many of said item, then our system tells us “Hey, somebody already paid for this and is probably going to pick it up at some point.”
So despite the fact that you’ve seen it on our sales floor for 6 months now, according to our computer, it doesn’t exist. We can’t sell it to you. Again, lost revenue and nobody had to steal it at all.
So while you might now be trying to steal something, keep in mind that you could play a vital role in making the next person’s experience that much easier. Or we could discover a really big mistake. We’ll look at you less cross-eyed when you want to make a return because you have item A but your receipt says you have item B, or the serial numbers don’t match (we have scam artists everywhere who try the switcheroo thing).
We could even find something you missed or overpaid for.
Well, maybe not at Wally Woild, but at our store anyway.
Monkeyhawk,
I missed the point of your tale.
So did you steal the adhesive to get even with the Man?
“bjb
Posted January 15, 2009 at 8:56 am | Permalink
Monkeyhawk,
I missed the point of your tale.
So did you steal the adhesive to get even with the Man?”
how is business ‘counselor’? Your clients must love your attitude
Brian,
“how is business ‘counselor’? Your clients must love your attitude”
bjb only takes submissives as clients.
Jed,
I think you meant “subversives?”
More specifically, right wing subversives.
Which, of course, which make me an ogre, a detestable proto-terrorist, right pmom?
But were they Left wing subversives, well then I would be an American hero, right p,mom?
HEY, so how about that Treasury Secretary. Taxes, smaxxes, when you are a leftist you don’t need to pay no stinkin’ taxes!
CALLING ALL RETAILERS.
Send this post to all of your pals at the Chamber.
The Eagle wants you to stand down while being robbed blind.
BOYCOTT THE EAGLE FOR SIDING WITH THE SHOPLIFTERS IN THEIR SNOOTY LIBERAL WAY.
Advertise on talk radio. 99% of their listeners support your right to protect your private property from pilfering.
The political swipes and personal attacks on the comments to this blog post are irritating. The issue of whether or not to show your receipt at a retail store has nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics. Please stop trying to shoehorn a consumer rights issue into a partisan mold in which it doesn’t fit.
Political_mama said “it should be policy that you be required to produce a receipt if you’re walking out of their store with their products.”
Here’s the problem: You’re not walking out of the store with their products, you’re leaving with YOUR products. Ownership of merchandise changes at the point of sale. Store employees have no more right to inspect your bags than they do the contents of your pockets or purses.
Receipt checks are poor loss prevention and poorer customer service. While they may turn up the occasional cashier error or forgetful customer, they do not catch professional shoplifters, who usually conceal merchandise and deactivate security tags to avoid setting off the store’s electronic article surveillance alarms.
WHOKNOWS references an “uppity entitlement high horse,” but no one’s asking for any special entitlements. Those of us who refuse receipt checks are simply exercising our right to decline a search of our personal property.
Misinformed managers may tell employees to check every receipt, but since receipt checks are only legal if they’re voluntary, this is dangerous and irresponsible advice. Employees cannot force you to show your receipt or prevent you from leaving the store if you refuse. That’s called false imprisonment. If a greeter grabs you, pushes you or otherwise physically restrains you simply because you declined to show your receipt, he or she could be charged with simple assault.
A receipt check is a consent search. Employees cannot reasonably suspect that every customer is a thief and have no legal right to detain or search them, so they ask customers’ permission to inspect their receipts and/or bags. Many say yes, but everyone has the right to say no.
No need for rudeness, either. A polite wave and a “No, thank you” on your way out the door can stamp out cart searches with a smile.
CALLING ALL RETAILERS.
Send this post to all of your pals at the Chamber.
The Eagle wants you to stand down while being robbed blind.
BOYCOTT THE EAGLE FOR SIDING WITH THE SHOPLIFTERS IN THEIR SNOOTY LIBERAL WAY.
Advertise on talk radio. 99% of their listeners support your right to protect your private property from pilfering.
AND STILL BROWNLEE HS NOT ordere
Ordered Rhonda to address this hot, hypocrite ‘tater ….
HEY, so how about that Treasury Secretary. Taxes, smaxxes, when you are a leftist you don’t need to pay no stinkin’ taxes!
The sorry truth is most retailers are in business for the wrong reason.
If it’s only about buying stuff and selling it for a mark-up, you’re no better than a crack dealer.
People with a product or a service or a menu or an experience that’s as meaningful to both buyer and seller is how capitalism is supposed to work.
It’s a corruption of capitalism (or, perhaps, capitalism’s fatal flaw) that some corporate cultures create an atmosphere where the customer is considered the enemy.
Car dealers have earned their reputation for creating an adversarial relationship with their customers. You buy a car and expect to be screwed. It’s not the customer’s fault for feeling that way.
I know why outfits such as Sam’s Club do that whole “count the items and mark the receipt” routine. They’ve been burned by people who have responded to Sam’s business plan in kind.
Sam’s wants me to do a lot of their warehouse duties and they want me to pay a premium for the privilege. It’s Tom Sawyer economics.
MH,
Is that post a joke or what?
The sorry truth is most retailers are in business for the wrong reason.
If it’s only about buying stuff and selling it for a mark-up, you’re no better than a crack dealer.
RIGHT, and if you are a farmer growing food only to eat it, then you are no better than a crack dealer.
Right, and if you are a rancher raising stock only to sell it for a profit, then you are no better than a crack dealer.
Right, and if you are a journalist typing crapola only to sell papers, then you are no better than a crack dealer.
WILL SOMEONE DELIVER AN OLBERMANN AWARD TO MONKEYHAWK, PLEASE???
Now, why would MH write such a lame post? His are usually pretty darn thought provoking.
I will tell you why ….
Cause MH and the boyz at the Beagle do not want this post being too darn easy to find …
CALLING ALL RETAILERS.
Send this post to all of your pals at the Chamber.
The Eagle wants you to stand down while being robbed blind.
BOYCOTT THE EAGLE FOR SIDING WITH THE SHOPLIFTERS IN THEIR SNOOTY LIBERAL WAY.
Advertise on talk radio. 99% of their listeners support your right to protect your private property from pilfering.
Oh LOOK an interesting new right winger who shakes and pLsses all the time.
This draconian merchant abuse of honest customers is SO easy to defeat by a dedicated thief.
And I’m not even a dedicated thief and I see it.
But why would I help the merchants who accuse innocents of stealing?
“bjb” screeches –
Now, why would MH write such a lame post? His are usually pretty darn thought provoking.
I will tell you why ….
Cause MH and the boyz at the Beagle do not want this post being too darn easy to find.
Yeah, right.
We held a secret meeting with cauldrons of burning oil, sacrificed a virgin, read the entrails of of a road-killed squirrel, and came up with a strategy to prevent people from reading your little “Boycott the Eagle” screed.
Then the
ritualmeeting was over, we took off our sacred satanic robes, and the wives came in and we had coffee and cupcakes.It was a good meeting, “bjb.” But alas, the evening ended too early for me. I wanted more. So I stopped by the house of a Brownie Scout I’d met from lurking on the elementary school playground and crushed her kitten’s skull beneath my jack boot.
On the way home I stopped by a couple of bars I’d heard about and officiated over maybe half a dozen gay marriages since I (as are all libs) am a certified Fake Reverend.
Either I was impaired by the subsequent Wesson-oil-slathered orgy in the parking lot between the Wendy’s and Applebee’s in Newton (Wichita’s Finest Restaurant — Wikepedia [Citation Needed]) or the GPS unit got a glitch, but I never made it over to “Nathaniel’s” place to shoot his dogs. That’s the trouble with us Libs: all these dreams and too little time.
bjb said, repeatedly:
“The Eagle wants you to stand down while being robbed blind.
BOYCOTT THE EAGLE FOR SIDING WITH THE SHOPLIFTERS IN THEIR SNOOTY LIBERAL WAY.”
Your partisan yammering has blinded you to both the law and common sense. No one is advocating shoplifting. No one is preventing the retailers from catching thieves.
In order to detain a suspected shoplifter, merchants must have probable cause to believe he or she’s stolen. PC is an established legal standard that requires some sort of proof — such as seeing a shopper conceal merchandise on surveillance video.
When loss prevention employees witness a theft, they take action. State law allows them to detain shoplifters — using minimal physical force if necessary — and call police.
By politely declining a greeter’s request to check your receipt or bags, I’m not contributing to the store’s losses. Guess what? I don’t steal! And, if I did, the professional and well-trained LP employees would detain me, have me arrested and trespass me from the store.
If you support receipt checks, then by all means, flash yours proudly when asked. But, how dare you equate shoppers with integrity with thugs and criminals because we don’t feel like being treated like juvenile delinquents and subjected to a humiliating search less than a minute after the greeters watched us pay.