Comments on: Pro-con: Should Justice Department prosecute Bush officials for torture?

By: mxyzptlk

mxyzptlk — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:30:23 +0000

A lie told often enough becomes the truth.

– Lenin

By: Jed

Jed — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:51:15 +0000

We were founded as a nation not of men but of laws. Now we’ve suffered eight long years under a government that’s convinced that it is above the law of the land, and that the Constitution of the United States of America is “just a scrap of paper.” In the name of National Security, they have undone 232 years of effort by the Real Americans to keep our nation a nation of laws. I’d posit that if we cannot protect our nation from those who would sacrfice our traditional American ideals in the face of a few suicidal maniacs, “terrorists” are the least of our problems.

By: Regular

Regular — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:19:42 +0000

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Rage
Posted December 31, 2008 at 12:45 am | Permalink

Without these parameters people were to be thought to be lawless criminals and treated as such.

Precisely. I would add that making decisions on the battlefield in one thing, while making decisions in secure US facilities thousands of miles away is something completely different.
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Yes, they have a Mr. Coffee and sprinkled doughnuts in the break room to make it much more accommodating for the interrogators.

By: Rage

Rage — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:46:57 +0000

P.S. Abu Gariab and Bagram were, of course, not battlefields either.

By: Rage

Rage — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:45:16 +0000

Without these parameters people were to be thought to be lawless criminals and treated as such.

Precisely. I would add that making decisions on the battlefield in one thing, while making decisions in secure US facilities thousands of miles away is something completely different.

By: Rage

Rage — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:40:21 +0000

For those who prefer not to remain pathetically ignorant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/testimony/t0806a/final.pdf

By: Monkeyhawk

Monkeyhawk — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:43:02 +0000

Jesus Christ got off easy! A day on the cross, a weekend in hell, and all the hallelujahs of the legioned angels for eternity!

I lived 10 years in friggin’ Wichita. Try that, Jay Cee!

By: HDChaplainCorps

HDChaplainCorps — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:33:43 +0000

Good night! God’s blessings on all of you!
There is plenty to go around.

May you prosper and be of good health, and live life more than abundantly!

Chas you are forgiven by the precious blood of Jesus Christ.

By: BlueJay

BlueJay — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:23:58 +0000

Whatever Hank.

By: HDChaplainCorps

HDChaplainCorps — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:20:50 +0000

Respectfully, JR. That is. Me being ordained and all that……

By: HDChaplainCorps

HDChaplainCorps — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:19:57 +0000

JR, ample THIS up your wise crackin behind.
Whe cares about your silly “meet up’s”? A few liberals in a sea of red. Chump change.

Still waiting for you to save the world……

By: BlueJay

BlueJay — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:18:16 +0000

Ample illustration here of why we no longer invite cons to the meetups.

By: HDChaplainCorps

HDChaplainCorps — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:13:56 +0000

Liberal Warrior:

“Uuuuuuu Whoooooooooooooo?”
“Oh bad guy!”

“If I’m real sweet and nice to you, and don’t blow up your house, wife, and kids, will you tell me where Mr. Osama Bin Laden is hiding?” “Pretty please, with sugar on top?”

“Come onnnnnnnnn!” I’m waging NICE nonaggressive war on you!”

By: HDChaplainCorps

HDChaplainCorps — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:12:31 +0000

Liberal Warrior:

“Uuuuuuu Whoooooooooooooo?”
“Oh bad guy!”

“I really detest dropping these land mine cannisters on your person – won’t you please just put your hands up?” “These land mines are terrible weapons”

By: HDChaplainCorps

HDChaplainCorps — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:11:08 +0000

Liberal Warrior:

“Uuuuuuu Whoooooooooooooo?”
“Oh bad guy!”
“I really hate to use these uranium depleted rounds, as they are bad for the environment.
“Won’t you please just drop your guns?”

By: HDChaplainCorps

HDChaplainCorps — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:09:48 +0000

Liberal warrior:

“Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu who!?”
“Oh bad guy, are you THERE?”
“Please go away, or I might have to (sniffle sniffle) pull out this gun and shoot in your direction.”
“Please just surrender?”

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:08:25 +0000

“I think you are asking for that again.”

Bring it. I know what it means. When you people got nothing, you bring out the insults. It’s a badge of honor.

By: HDChaplainCorps

HDChaplainCorps — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:07:06 +0000

aggressive war?

What on earth other kind of war would you wage?

Liberals would do what? Wage pussy war?

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:05:51 +0000

SED:

That was pitiful. Weak.

By: outlander

outlander — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:01:51 +0000

You see that guy on the waterboard? What if he were one of the three terrorist master minds who was actually waterboarded. If so, he wants very much to kill your family, you infidel dog. And he has been working hard to find a way to do it. He would love to inflict massive casualties on your country.

So, you are telling me that you are going to condemn our country’s security forces for pouring a little water in his face to get him to talk?

I don’t get it.

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:01:10 +0000

“The presence of a uniform, dress or badges,…”

Or a MoveOn.org T-Shirt with DU pants. Classy.

By: StevenEDavis

StevenEDavis — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:00:09 +0000

MY ideoligical funeral?? I don’t wear website crap.
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No, I suppose not. Your brain is just completely full of website/talk radio crap.

We beat you. Nah, Nah, Nah…, Nah, Nah. Goodbye…

Fleetwood if you were any dumber you’d require a designation of BDP. I think you are asking for that again.

Let’s give that title back to this uniquely stupid dumbass.

And as vice-dumbass, I nominate his friend the SolVB guy from Michigan.

A perfect ticket…

By: Cynical

Cynical — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:57:35 +0000

Only if NObama unseals his fake birth certificate

By: sursum

sursum — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:55:22 +0000

Illegal combatants are those who fight outside the rules of war. The presence of a uniform, dress or badges, a chain of command, obedience to a civil authority, tactics etc., are some of the areas Geneva, the Hague and prior conventions have used to define just who is a legal combatant. Without these parameters people were to be thought to be lawless criminals and treated as such. The French resistance and other national resiting groups during Nazi occupation were treated much harsher than regular army POW’s and the Allies did the same. Otto Skorzenys commandoes caught in American uniforms during the “Bulge”, were shot while those in German uniform sent to POW camps. If you do not fight by the rules governing warfare you cannot be protected by them and even Eisenhower treated the captured sans uniform much, much rougher than those taken in uniform. I think nations can refuse, to those taken in the field and do not fall into the internationally accepted definition of a soldier, any rights governing warfare. America however does not have the right to do unto others what we would protest if done unto us, ie torture in any form.

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:51:50 +0000

“At your ideological funeral, I will be wearing all of those – Asshole. Night, night, punk…”

MY ideoligical funeral?? I don’t wear website crap.