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Cats and dogs, it’s raining science.
Dogs Chase Efficiently, But Cats Skulk Counterintuitively
ScienceDaily (Dec. 4, 2008) — A Duke University study suggests that evolution can behave as differently as dogs and cats. While the dogs depend on an energy-efficient style of four-footed running over long distances to catch their prey, cats seem to have evolved a profoundly inefficient gait, tailor-made to creep up on a mouse or bird in slow motion.
“It is usually assumed that efficiency is what matters in evolution,” said Daniel Schmitt, a Duke associate professor of evolutionary anthropology. “We’ve found that’s too simple a way of looking at evolution, because there are some animals that need to operate at high energy cost and low efficiency.”
More real science at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081203184533.htm
Cheetas; bullshit.
It may be that cheetas run more efficiently but they probably stalk in the same method as house cats. It would be interesting to see.
They chase their prey at high speeds and bring it down. Probably a youtube vid somewhere. Anyway cheetas are the cat anomaly. They don’t have retractable claws, for example.
And leopards swim. Cats and water usually don’t mix. I’ll have to ask my ex, she’s a zoologist and loves cheetas.
Cao Upsets Jefferson in LA-02
Republican Anh “Joseph” Cao defeated corrupt nine-term Democrat William Jefferson in a House runoff in LA-02 yesterday. Jefferson, you may remember, was discovered to have $90,000 in cold cash in his freezer. Even though the district is D+28 and heavily black, the voters had enough of Jefferson (who is black) and went for the Republican 50% to 47%. Cao is the first Vietnamese-American in Congress. This upset comes as a huge surprise to nearly all observers. Most Democrats are relieved to be rid of Jefferson even if it costs them a House seat.
http://electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Maps/Dec07.html
Thought maybe this e-mail from the NRA might interest some of you. ~~ Hank
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**** Alert *** Alert *** Alert ****
Dear Fellow NRA Member,
More than ever, we need you to stand with NRA and fight to save our Second Amendment freedoms.
Barack Obama’s campaign promise
not to take away our guns is a lie.
He’s not even in office, yet he’s fired the opening salvos in a war against the future of the Second Amendment, our hunting and shooting traditions, and YOU.
Obama’s FIRST attack on YOU: Appointing Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel to be White House Chief of Staff. In Congress, Emanuel earned an “F” rating from NRA, and while working in the Clinton Administration, he was known as the “point man on gun control.” He is an avowed enemy of the Second Amendment and will wield enormous power in the battle for the future of our firearm freedoms.
Obama’s SECOND attack on YOU: If Hillary Clinton is confirmed as Secretary of State, she’ll rip the Second Amendment right out of the Bill of Rights. She’ll be our nation’s top diplomat with the power to determine whether the United Nations will pass, and Obama will sign, a global gun ban treaty that will surrender our Second Amendment rights and our national sovereignty.
Obama’s THIRD attack on YOU: Nominating ex-Senator and former Majority Leader Tom Daschle-an avowed enemy of NRA-to be Secretary of Health and Human Services. NRA was responsible for defeating Daschle when he ran in South Dakota for re-election to the Senate. If Daschle is confirmed, he could hold the ultimate power to declare guns a “public health menace” and regulate away our essential liberties.
Obama’s FOURTH attack on YOU: Nominating Eric Holder to be Attorney General. As former Assistant Attorney General, Holder was a key architect and vocal advocate for the Clinton era’s sweeping gun ban agenda. He supported national handgun licensing, mandatory trigger locks, and ending gun shows as we know them.
Just recently, Holder opposed the District of Columbia’s Heller decision that declared the Second Amendment an individual right. Holder also called for reviving the Clinton gun bans and, as Attorney General, would fight in court to prevent the landmark Heller decision from being made applicable to state and local governments.
Worst of all, if Holder is confirmed as the nation’s top law-enforcement officer, he would control BATFE and wield enormous power to harass gun owners and sue America’s arms makers out of existence.
Obama’s FIFTH attack on YOU: In the job application for the Obama Administration, he made it clear that gun owners are second-class citizens and told 80 million gun owners not to even bother applying for a job. In the “White House Personnel Data Questionnaire” he asked:
“Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so,
provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the
registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it
is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries
or property damage.”
This chilling notice to gun owners-that they are not welcome to serve in his Administration-shows the deep hostility for Americans’ Second Amendment Freedoms that Obama and his Administration have in their hearts.
On its face, that question endorses gun registration-a mandate in only five states in our nation-and buys into the anti-gun premise that firearms are inherently dangerous and gun owners are prone to misusing them.
That’s an outrageous mindset, especially for the President-elect whose sworn duty will be to uphold the U.S. Constitution, including our right to keep and bear arms.
Obama CLEARLY wants to make gun registration the law of the land.
First for employees under his control…AND THEN FOR YOU.
Working with a Congress dominated by gun haters like Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, John Conyers, Henry Waxman, and Charles Schumer!!!
Rubbing salt in gun owner wounds is the Brady Campaign, which just issued a completely bogus poll claiming that two-thirds of the Americans-including 60% of all gun owners-favor gun registration, licensing of firearm owners, and other sweeping restrictions on our firearm freedoms!
Add it all up and you have the potential for a Second Amendment disaster that’s unlike any other NRA members have ever battled.
That’s why we need the strongest possible commitment from EVERY NRA member, starting today. That’s why I’m hoping you’ll validate your new NRA membership card the moment you receive it.
Because our greatest strength is you.
Only by working with you can NRA hold the line against these threats from every quarter. We are the one force that has the strength to keep Americans free and our rights intact for future generations. With you at our side, we will fight and we will prevail against all odds.
Thank you for your loyalty to NRA and the cause of Freedom.
“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”
- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, Imperial Japanese Navy
“Execute unrestricted air and submarine warfare against Japan.”
- Admiral R. Stark, Chief of Naval Operations
During World War II, submarines comprised less than two percent of the U.S. Navy, but sank more than 30 percent of Japan’s navy, including eight aircraft carriers. More important, American submarines contributed to the indirect decapitation of the Japanese economy by sinking almost five million tons of shipping — more than 60 percent of the Japanese merchant marine.
F*ck the NRA…what a propaganda rag. And you’re smarter than to buy into the bullshit, Hank.
We all need to come together to work on our overwhelming problems, and gun control is way down the list..and all the crap from propaganda, fearmongering, special interest gruops like the NRA is doing everything to undermine the best interest of our country. It’s downright unpatriotic.
hehehe
Good morning, Mary!
I’m a lifetime member dear. How many other of our rights do you think will last if panty-wetting-liberals like you let the bastards take our guns?
No boggyman is going to take your toys, Hank.
Why don’t you worry about something that’s real? Like the economy and the war, for example.
BTW, I don’t “wet my pants” because I’m liberal…it’s because I’m middle aged and I’ve given birth to 3 kids!
Why worry about anything? Do what you can, ignore what you can’t.
The NRA helps elect politicians that respect the Bill of Rights and defeat those that don’t.
Proud to be a member!
Oh pleeeeeze!
So you worry about your guns and I’ll worry about services getting cut back for the disabled and my patients who can’t afford health care..we all have to have our priorities, I guess.
What? Transparency in government? The only thing transparent about the current administration is their total paranoia concerning leaks of government matters.
This should give the NeoCons plenty of food for their gods, like rush, coulter, etc.,to feed on. It will give the rest of the nation a breath of fresh air:
“US president-elect Barack Obama on Saturday took a cyber-step towards greater transparency and interactive government with a new feature on his official transition website called “Seat at the Table.”
The initiative calls for the proceedings of meetings between the Obama transition team and outside organizations to be published on the transition website, Change.gov, and to allow members of the public to comment on them.
“In past transitions, meetings like this have been held behind closed doors,” said John Podesta, co-chair of the transition team. “Not anymore.”
Podesta, in an email to supporters, said “the people and groups we’re meeting with, the subjects of the meetings, and any documents shared in the meetings will now be made available on Change.gov.
“Most importantly, the American public can weigh in with comments or their own materials,” Podesta added.”
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Obama_invites_Americans_to_take_a_S_12062008.html
Mary_Caruso Posted:
“No boggyman is going to take your toys, Hank.
Why don’t you worry about something that’s real? Like the economy and the war, for example.”
I worry about something far more ominous than anything else that could bring down this country….it’s people like Mary who have no respect for parts of the constitution because she doesn’t feel that particular part effects her personally and her agenda.
The first thing Hitler did was disarm the country, and folks like Mary didn’t question, didn’t resist and just went alone, and look what happened.
‘along’ not ‘alone’
“it’s because I’m middle aged and I’ve given birth to 3 kids!”.
Oh sure Mary blame the kids! I did not have gray hair or a receding hair line till I had kids! I heard from the youngest this morning (e-mail), he is currently in Kuwait and sounds like he is staying at club Med right now there is even fast food restaurants on the base. He is doing good and things he is told will change once he gets to the FOB. 80s in the day time and 30s at night.
****
Hank we have to stay vigilant but not overly suspicious it has been a scare tactic and more often then not one that does not come to be true. Yes there are far to many whom think blaming an inanimate object it the answer. Firearms are no more the cause of violence then Tweenies are the cause of crime. The control of either would not be an effective way to solve the problem. But then I am preaching to the choir saying that to you.
“F*ck the NRA…what a propaganda rag.”
AMEN to that!
What a bunch of nervous ninnies.
“The first thing Hitler did was disarm the country, and folks like Mary didn’t question, didn’t resist and just went alone, and look what happened.” —
Under Hitler, Germany had more arms than any ten countries put together. Hardly disarmed it.
“I worry about something far more ominous than anything else that could bring down this country….it’s people like Mary who have no respect for parts of the constitution because she doesn’t feel that particular part effects her personally and her agenda.”
Your concern for the rights of a certain advocacy group (gun nuts) is admirable.
You BRAVE champion of freedom you!
Too bad you are a hypocrite and would in the same breath use the force of law to over rule others on different issues.
Heh
Here lately, every time a con posts, I can almost HEAR them aging.
It’s like they are decomposing WHILE they are composing.
I wet my pants because the NRA fund-raiser is so packed with paranoiac lies it makes me laugh uncontrollably.
I particularly liked –
“Obama’s FIFTH attack on YOU: In the job application for the Obama Administration….”
That’s right, “HLP.” Your chances of getting a plum White House appointment is threatened by your gun fetish. Other than that, you’d be a shoe-in.
I betcha the boy’s guns are the only thing standing in the way of his getting one of those MacArthur Genius Grants!
“Cheetas; bullshit.”
Wrong. Cheetahs still follow the feline plan, although they can run for longer distances than most of their feline bretheren, they are dependent upon short bursts of speed. A healthy cheetah can run faster than a gazelle, but can not run as long as a gazelle can at top speed.
Besides which, exceptions do not make another poster’s statement “bullsh*t”.
Quit being provocative just for provocation’s sake.
Beber
;-)
but one exception ruins a generalization.
I went to dinner at Ruth’s Chris the other night with an old college buddy, Michael, who was in town for the week. We talked politics on the way to the restaraunt, and I was suprised to find he was an Obama supporter. I was going to buy, but then I mentioned to him that we should probably go dutch, to be fair.
When we ordered, I told Michael I was on a special diet and that I’d just order the baked potato, for $12. He ordered the Cowboy sized Ribeye a huge 40 oz steak for $39, and a couple of sides. We each had a couple of beers.
After they brought our food, we had started eating and took a couple of bites. Michael laughed and told me how great his steak tasted. After waiting for him to take another bite of steak to get his mouth full, I reached over and grabbed his steak, and with my bear hands I tore it in half and put half on my plate and gave him back the other half!
He looked at me in disbelief, we were sorta crazy during college days, so he thought it was all a joke. I calmly told him that I had to have steak with potatoes, and besides, it wasn’t fair that he had such a huge steak and I had none.
Michael protested and said, “But that’s my steak, it’s on my tab, and I have to pay for that!”.
I replied, “I thought you were for Obama, and redistribution of wealth?”
It was a lovely dinner.
http://exoticanimallover.com/?p=33
check out the vid and tell me a cheeta does not run efficiently. So does an alley cat. They can motor. If you go half as far twice as fast you are equally efficient.
HLP
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:35 am | Permalink
Thought maybe this e-mail from the NRA might interest some of you. ~~ Hank
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Too late Hank. The Socialists have spoken. Their gun-banner is in the White House.
The only thing you can do for 2 years Hank is to go out and buy whatever you can right now before it’s all banned. Everybody else is, if you haven’t noticed how bare the shelves are in every gun store.
Oh and Hank, the Libs here don’t get it.
1. They suck-up to Obama propaganda and believe it when he says he supports the 2nd Amendment.
2. The Libs here have no idea why there is a 2nd Amendment.
3. The Libs here do not care about Freedom. They want Free Stuff, but they don’t even know what Freedom means.
Carry on…..more Lib Lies to follow.
Good morning, MonkeyHawk!
The boy is currently at Quantico, VA. He’s there training a Marine battalion on its way to Iraq. This year he’s actually getting to maintain the ‘toys’. Last December he was the range director.
And, speaking of ‘genius grants’ he’s pretty much paid for his education with the GI bill and scholarships. Next semester his employer will be footing the bill for his college courses.
Hopefully he’ll be home in time for Christmas. If not, we’ll have Christmas when he gets here.
I believe “JimJohnson” has eaten at a Ruth’s Chris Steak House about as much as I believed George Herbert Walker Bush ate pork rinds.
Just cut-and-post right wing-nut spam.
And Hank, hope you got your AR’s. Hard to find now.
I couldn’t decide between AR’s so I got three of em last summer. Got one in 308 and two in 223.
I liked the AP4 and AR14, so I got one of each. Got the 308 in AR.
And that 5,000 rounds of 223, cost $2,000 back in July. That’ll cost you $4,000 now, and likely it will be on backorder.
Yeah, the market knows what’s coming, while the Libidiots have their rose colored glasses on.
Jesus WEPT!
“I worry about something far more ominous than anything else that could bring down this country….it’s people like Mary who have no respect for parts of the constitution because she doesn’t feel that particular part effects her personally and her agenda.”
Irony really is lost on those who need it.
The same could be said for bigotbawks and his obsession with constitutional amendments to deprive gay people of equal protection under the law.
Let the poodle dancing begin!
I could sell those AR’s and ammo now and make over a 100% return in 6 months!
I should have bought a 100 of em!
“Just cut-and-post right wing-nut spam.”
For them, it’s easier than thinking.
And I really, really REALLY hope you all keep buying those guns. Spend all your money. Then you wont have anymore to give to the wingnut groups you support.
BOOO!!!!! BUY MORE GUNS!!!!!!!!
Um “Jim”?
I’m gonna seriously doubt that you have EVER been to Sean Hannity’s favorite cafeteria for the well heeled, Ruth’s Chris.
There are none in this area.
But if you were?
A place where you are stupid enough to pay 12 bucks for a baked potato is a lousy forum for an argument on economic and social justice.
P S
“Bear hands” heh.
“but one exception ruins a generalization.”
Only if the exception is sufficiently distinct from the generalization, which in the case of the cheetah, it really isn’t. If a gazelle can stay ahead of a cheetah for a sufficient distance, probably no more than a couple of hundred yards, the cheetah is done and the gazelle is still putting on speed.
“Under Hitler, Germany had more arms than any ten countries put together. Hardly disarmed it.”
—beber
Right beber, and all in the hands of the military that he controlled.
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country.” –Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler’s Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, Second Edition (1973), Pg. 425-426. Translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens. Introduced and with a new preface by H. R. Trevor-Roper. The original German papers were known as Bormann-Vermerke.
http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id14.html
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:Mq5wQIFJE2YJ:www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf+Was+Germany+disarmed+by+Hitler&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
“The Nazi disarmament campaign that began as soon as Hitler assumed power in 1933. While some genocidal governments (such as the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia) dispensed with lawmaking, the Nazi government followed the German predilection for the creation of large volumes of written rules and regulations. Yet it was not until March 1938 (the same month that Hitler annexed Austria in the Anschluss) that the Nazis created their own Weapons Law. The new law formalized what had been the policy imposed by Hitler using the Weimar Law: Jews were prohibited from any involvement in any firearm business.
On November 9, 1938, the Nazis launched the Kristallnacht, pogrom, and unarmed Jews all over Germany were attacked by government-sponsored mobs. In conjunction with Kristallnacht, the government used the administrative authority of the 1938 Weapons Law to require immediate Jewish surrender of all firearms and edged weapons, and to mandate a sentence of death or 20 years in a concentration camp for any violation.
Even after 1938, the German gun laws were not prohibitory. They simply gave the government enough information and enough discretion to ensure that victims inside Germany would not be able to fight back.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel052203.asp
Good morning Farmgirl!
I’ve pretty much bought all the guns I want. Every now and then something new comes around that I ‘need’ but very seldom.
Did you read my posts about varmits last night? Have you got a problem with critters getting in your chicken coop? Or have you turned all your chickens into groceries?
Just wonderin’
Oh, Jim Johnson the spam troll regales us with another stupid, simplistic rightie object lesson about the “redistribution” of wealth.
And that’s all the soup you get, Jimmy.
“The same could be said for bigotbawks and his obsession with constitutional amendments to deprive gay people of equal protection under the law.”
—chicken brain, I mean chicken farmer
Gays have EXACTLY the same rights as everyone else, EXACTLY. Maybe you have made a sick lifestyle choice for yourself but society is under no obligation to support it.
Besides, the whole gay thing is all about the money.
You lost….get over it.
On Sunday, December 7th:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,463145,00.html
Iran Tests Missile During Naval Maneuver
Sunday, December 07, 2008
(Obama should go talk to those people in Iran.)
Just what mission at Quantico is the boy doing, “HLP?
HMX-1?.
Marine Corps Embassy Security Group?
Combat Development Command and Warfighting Laboratory?
Recruiting?
Killing Someone who Shoots Your Dog?
Systems Command?
Training and Education?
Air-Ground Task Force (MAGTF) Staff Training?
The Marine Corps University?
Officer Candidates School?
Network Operations Security?
It’s my tax dollars at work. I have a right to know.
While the gun nuts are buying more guns and ammunition and shaking with fear about their material possessions being take away, the adults of our country who realize the priorities of the many challenges we face will get on with business. It will actually be easier with the gun nuts out of the way, they have nothing constructive to add anyway.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 7, 2008 at 10:36 am | Permalink
And I really, really REALLY hope you all keep buying those guns. Spend all your money. Then you wont have anymore to give to the wingnut groups you support.
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And hiding assets from Socialist thieves, keeps that money from being stolen.
Well Jim,
I believe you’ve been to Ruth’s Cris Steak House! I’ve been to ones in KC, St Louis and Rogers, AR. Contrary to popular belief, it’s not that expensive.
I still like the prime rib at Tommy’s, right here in Wichita!
Best steak I’ve ever had? Thirteen Coins near SeaTac. Expensive, but worth every penny!
Monkeyhawk
Posted December 7, 2008 at 10:33 am | Permalink
I believe “JimJohnson” has eaten at a Ruth’s Chris Steak House about as much as I believed George Herbert Walker Bush ate pork rinds.
Just cut-and-post right wing-nut spam.
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You claim it’s cut and paste, then find it.
What you believe Monkey, is of no concern to any human with a brain. You want to believe your own lies, that is all.
“cats seem to have evolved a profoundly inefficient gait, tailor-made to creep up on a mouse or bird in slow motion”
No it’s tailor-made to go fast as hell for short distances. Don’t believe everything you read in a science magazine, Monkeyhawk. Instead, watch a damned cat. They can sneak and they can motor; whichever is required.
I should have said shorter distances than dogs. Cat’s can go at least a block, and probably more.
BlueJay
Posted December 7, 2008 at 10:40 am | Permalink
Um “Jim”?
I’m gonna seriously doubt that you have EVER been to Sean Hannity’s favorite cafeteria for the well heeled, Ruth’s Chris.
There are none in this area.
But if you were?
A place where you are stupid enough to pay 12 bucks for a baked potato is a lousy forum for an argument on economic and social justice.
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Ahhh, the jealousy of JR, who thinks 99 cents is the price to pay for any entree.
Guess what JR, not everybody goes to McDonalds when they “eat out”.
Oh, and JR, do you not even get away as far as Kansas City? They really keep you fenced in. Stay in your pen then.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 7, 2008 at 10:34 am | Permalink
Jesus WEPT!
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I bet you broke the doorknob when you read that!
“—chicken brain, I mean chicken farmer”
Yap! Yap! Yap!
Jimmuh?
Eating your frozen side of potatoes while you listen to Sean Hannity talk about Ruth’s Chris does not equal you actually dining there.
And 12 bucks for a baked potato?
Damn. It had better be served up by a corn fed Idaho honey wearing cutoffs and a smile.
Agnatha
Posted December 7, 2008 at 10:44 am | Permalink
Oh, Jim Johnson the spam troll regales us with another stupid, simplistic rightie object lesson about the “redistribution” of wealth.
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Simple, it’s the only thing you might understand.
Re: JimmyJohnson
DNFTST
Simple like:
Change
Hope
Change
Hope
Change
Hope
But get ready, Obama said that things are gonna get worse before they get better.
Kiss your Hope goodbye.
There will be Change though.
“beber” comes up with –
” Don’t believe everything you read in a science magazine, Monkeyhawk….”
I guess I’ve become the generic target of the wing-nuts this morning.
“beber,” you were responding to someone else’s post.
BlueJay
Posted December 7, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink
Jimmuh?
Eating your frozen side of potatoes while you listen to Sean Hannity talk about Ruth’s Chris does not equal you actually dining there.
And 12 bucks for a baked potato?
Damn. It had better be served up by a corn fed Idaho honey wearing cutoffs and a smile.
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Poor JR will never know how good Ruths Chris is, unless someone else pays for him.
JR, find one of your rich Lib buddies to take you out to KC to enjoy the best steak you ever had.
Or you might try applying for bus boy there, then at least you could smell how good it is!
Monkeyhawk, maggotpunk, whatever. Sorry.
Hank, I replied to you on the same thread you asked the question.
“I went to dinner at Ruth’s Chris the other night with an old college buddy, Michael, who was in town for the week.”
This implies that:
“Jim” lives somewhere other than Wichita.
or
“Jim” and his friend journeyed more than a hundred miles for dinner.
or
“Jim” is a liar who constructed a little con bromide to badly make a point.
Using Ruth’s Chris as a foundation for an illustration of the evils of social and economic justice?
I gotta crack up at the paranoid neocons and their belief Obama’s going to drop the second amendment. In the first place, it ain’t going to happen. Second, there aren’t enough votes in congress to make the right-wing’s paranoia about what they think is Obama’s version of gun control happen,. Third, if cities and states would enforce the existing gun control laws, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.
But keep on buying. When we’re invaded by subhuman underground dwellers (mainly limbaughites), I’ll be over at neocons houses drinking coffee, while they’re out popin’ bad guys.
“JR, find one of your rich Lib buddies to take you out to KC to enjoy the best steak you ever had.”
I’d like to know how it worked out for BlueJay when some of his DimLib buddies said they were going to go together and get him some health insurance.
How’d that neat idea work out BJ…..chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp.
Hum, not as free with their own money as everyone elses I guess.
Monkeyhawk
Posted December 7, 2008 at 10:47 am | Permalink
Just what mission at Quantico is the boy doing, “HLP
____________________________________________
hehehe
I love it when nitwits like you have to GOOGLE in an attempt to have an intelligent discussion.
The Wichita Marine Corps Reserve center has about 20 men on their way to Iraq. They are currently in pre-deployment training at Quntico. The Boy is one of five men that are assigned to help with the training.
Sargent Price is an armorer. He repairs and maintains weapons. He is working in the armory at Quantico ensuring the weapons are in good working order for the training and upcoming deployment.
Thanks for your concern, asshole.
““JR, find one of your rich Lib buddies to take you out to KC to enjoy the best steak you ever had.”
I’d rather STARVE then pay or have some else pay for such a conspicuous extravagance.
Hey bawks? Why do you need a gun? You got those track shoes and everything. If ya feel nervous, run away!
Too nice a day for this.
I’ll be back to sweep up after the cons later.
“I’d like to know how it worked out for BlueJay when some of his DimLib buddies said they were going to go together and get him some health insurance.”
You’d be surprised what we do that you dont know about. How often we meet, correspond, etc. It’s called friendship. You know, people who enjoy each other’s company? Not that you would know, of course.
And given the crap you all have dished out regarding JR’s computer…
Why would we tell you “siht”?
You piss and moan if JR does, and piss and moan if JR doesnt.
Mostly? You are just a piss and moaner.
Oh and no matter how much you bloviate about how wonderful your life is….
You still seem to be jealous that JR has friends.
Pobrecito
Shouldnt bigotbawks be in church right about now?
And a GREAT read. Hehehhe. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
http://conservativesarealwayswrong.googlepages.com
There are plenty of anti_NRA folks who are pro-gun ownership. They just are too smart to fall for the crap the NRA spews. They agree with limits and registrations. Why would ANYONE want a gunshow loophole? Are you begging for the bad guys to be able to legally buy firearms?
Your ideals astound me. Its not anti-second amendment to want limits.
Interesting,
A good high end restaurant employs a lot of people. A lot of employees, suppliers, farmers etc., depend on their success.
In my youth I worked as a bus boy, dishwasher, bartender and even as a waiter for a short period of time.
Joyce worked her way through college as a caterer and waitress.
Now when we can find the time to enjoy a fine meal, we do with no guilt and no regrets. We’ve been on the service end of the business and we know and respect the service we receive. We eat and tip well!
Ruth’s Cris Steak House is not expensive. It is great value for the meals it serves.
Be careful Farmgirl,
If JR ever realizes how ‘rich’ you are he’ll turn on you like he did Mary.
We’ve got several feral ‘barn cats’. Maybe I should be using cat food for bait instead of dog food!
“You’d be surprised what we do that you dont know about.”
Ya, well I’d like to know if you forked over for his insurance….uh, chirp, chirp, chirp.
Heh Hank. I thought about that after I posted. I throw a twenty pound bag of cat food in the barn every week. What lives, lives, and what doesnt, doesnt.
I think the coons and possums are getting fat down in the barn. They are too lazy to work for their meal at the chicken coop.
Why should they, when they get catered cat food on tap?
Hey, P-Mom,
What exactly is the ‘gun show loophole’? Do you even know? In fact, can any of you libs explain to me exactly what the ‘gun show loophole’ is all about?
Contrary to popular belief, the NRA is for common sense legislation. They’ve always supported legislation that punishes criminals that use guns in crimes. They’re just against legislation that put ridiculous limits on law abiding citizens.
What about the ‘gun show loophole’? What in the hell is it?
Eat it bigotbawks. You wont ever know what the eeeevil libs have done. I guess it never occurs to you that we may have sworn each other to silence.
Piss and moan away, loser.
But we are CONSTANTLY amused, and do encourage you to piss and moan here more often.
Hee hee hee heeeee.
How do you know I didnt marry JR as offered?
I think a twenty pound bag of cat food would attract problems. It would only last a day! The stables have a creek on the southern boundary. It’s a regular wildlife highway!
When ever the cats have kittens Joyce makes me feed them while they’re nursing. Many a morning some of the ‘cats’ at the buffet had stripes!
Heh Hank, I’ve got a BARN full of cats, mostly up in the hayloft. And multiple kittens several times a year. I dont know how many “guests” I’m feeding, but the cats could eat twenty pounds easily!
I’ve only killed one skunk down there in eight years. And he was crazy. Came out in the daylight frequently, up to the house, etc. I suspected rabies, so I shot his striped ass dead.
No problems since.
Except for a plethora of obviously fertile cats!
The sale of firearms between unlicensed individuals. Anyone can go set up and sell guns, and not have to go through the appropriate background checks. Also there is no waiting period.
ATF Criminal Investigations at Gun Shows
From 2004 to 2006, ATF conducted operations at 195 gun shows (approximately 2% of all shows). Specific targeting of suspected individuals (77%) resulted in 121 individual arrests and 5,345 firearms seizures. Seventy nine of the 121 ATF operation plans were known suspects previously under investigation. [2]
Additionally, ATF Field Offices report that:
Between 2002 and 2005, more than 400 guns legally purchased at gun shows from licensed dealers in the city of Richmond, Virginia, were later recovered in connection with criminal activity. Bouchard notes that, “These figures do not take into account firearms that may have been sold at Richmond area gun shows by unlicensed sellers, as these transactions are more difficult to track.”[1]
The Department of Justice reports, “after reviewing hundreds of trace reports associated with guns used in crime recovered in the [New Orleans] area and interviewing known gang members and other criminals, ATF Special Agents identified area gun shows as a source used by local gang members and other criminals to obtain guns.”[2]
The San Francisco ATF Field Division has cracked down on illegal guns being smuggled into California. During these operations, “agents purchased firearms and identified violations related to “off paper” sales, sales to out-of-state residents, and dealing in firearms without a license.” The “ATF seized or purchased 400 firearms before making arrests and executing search warrants, which resulted in the seizure of an additional 600 firearms and the recovery of explosives.”[2]
ATF’s Columbus Field Division conducted its anti-trafficking operations based on intelligence from Cleveland police that “many of the guns recovered in high-crime areas of the city had been purchased at local gun shows.” Subsequent gun show sting operations resulted in the seizure of “5 guns, one indictment, and two pending indictments for felony possession of a firearm.” The state of Ohio is one of the top ten source states for recovered guns used in crime.[2]
Gun shows are also a major source of guns used in crimes beyond U.S. borders. The ATF’s Phoenix Field Division reported that “many gun shows attracted large numbers of gang members from Mexico and California. They often bought large quantities of assault weapons and smuggled them into Mexico or transported them to California.”[2] Mexican police claim that 100% of guns used in “drug-related killings” in Mexico, which has strict gun laws, are smuggled from the United States, often from gun shows in the Southwest. Garen Wintemute, a professor at the University of California at Davis, calls Arizona and Texas a “gunrunner’s paradise.”[19]
“You wont ever know what the eeeevil libs have done. I guess it never occurs to you that we may have sworn each other to silence.”
Ha! I’ll take that as a;
‘NO’! ‘We didn’t step in to help JR at all, even after spouting off so high and mighty about it, all we do is talk big and criticize, but never do ourselves what we say everyone else is responsible for.’
So. . . what is the loophole? What are the ways being proposed to close it?
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4835
Just saw Jonathan Alter on MSNBC talking about the Shinseki nomination to head Veterans Affairs. I think it’s a good choice, but Alter went beyond that, noting that giving this position to a general who publicly differed with Rumsfeld and was proven right is a serious rebuke to the Bush’s administration’s Iraq policy.
Huh? Maybe it’s a rebuke of their shameful treatment of stateside veterans, but what does the position have to do with Iraq policy?
A serious rebuke would have been making Shinseki Defense secretary. Instead, we got who again?
Understand, I’ll willing to cut reasonable slack. He’s not even president yet. Campbell Brown raked him over the coals for not explaining his change of view over Hillary’s foreign policy qualifications, and while she was right to do that, if he wants to keep his reasoning to himself for now, I can live with that. I’d much rather hear his plans for our foreign policy (particularly in hotspots like Afghanistan and Pakistan) than get the answer to such a “gotcha” question.
But I don’t much care for uncritically cheerleading any politician.
Political_mama
Posted December 7, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink
There are plenty of anti_NRA folks who are pro-gun ownership. They just are too smart to fall for the crap the NRA spews.
–Who is “they”?
They agree with limits and registrations.
–Again, who is “they”?
Why would ANYONE want a gunshow loophole?
–What loophole? What is the loophole, exactly? You don’t know, do you? You’re just reading off the dailykos again.
Are you begging for the bad guys to be able to legally buy firearms?
–If you knew ANYTHING about the NRA, you would know better. The NRA is a strong supporter of enforcing existing laws and keeping convicted felons from buying guns. By “bad guys”, maybe you mean all law-abiding citizens who choose to own guns.
Talking about anything you may do for charity, love or kindness seems to have an equally opposite effect. It is in the giving where the joy is found, not in the telling of it.
Secret of Giving” By Reba McEntire
In this life we all go through hard times
When we struggle and pray for a lifeline
Just needing someone
To show us the way
To you the glass might seem half empty
But it’s half full to those without any
So hold on to hope
And try to have faith
Oh, you’ve got to have faith
If there’s just one secret to living
Whoever you are
It’s learning the meaning of giving
With an open heart/With an open heart
If you offer the best part of yourself
Even when you don’t have anything else
Honest and true
It’ll come back to you
Love comes back to you
If there’s just one secret to living
Whoever you are
It’s learning the meaning of giving
With an open heart
With your arms wide open
The world opens wide
And you’ll believe it deep inside
That there’s just one secret to living
Whoever you are
It’s finding that true joy in giving
With an open heart
Boxlock20
Posted December 7, 2008 at 11:45 am | Permalink
“You’d be surprised what we do that you dont know about.”
Ya, well I’d like to know if you forked over for his insurance….uh, chirp, chirp, chirp.
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When hell freezes over…
The Libs don’t care enough to spend THEIR OWN money. They do care enough to spend OTHER PEOPLE’S money.
Watch out, they’ll grab that steak right out of your mouth!
Something else that always seems counterproductive and asinine to me is advertising on a blog, or anywhere else, that you carry a concealed weapon.
Pmom posts from Wiki, but leaves out the opposing view.
Funny how she forgot to post a link to her copy/paste job.
She didn’t want to admit that Wiki is the entire scope of her gun show “loophole” knowledge.
HLP
Posted December 7, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink
So. . . what is the loophole? What are the ways being proposed to close it?
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4835
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Hank, that’s not the right link. Everybody knows that Wikipedia is the only credible source of knowledge.
Nice link though Hank. Doubt if anyone is able or willing to reply to that one!
Hehehehehe . . . JJ grabs a steak off my plate, and his/her grabbin’ hand would definitely be tenderized with a steak fork:-). And guess who would then get stuck with the entire bill, as I got up, chuckled, and walked out the door.
The gun-show loophole is simply a ruse by the anti-gunners and Libs, to try to justify gun registration. Then comes confiscation.
Now we’ll go thru the car registration and drivers license comparisons again, and again.
SOS with the gun-banners.
80% of gun-banners are the sheep, too stupid to do anything other then follow the party line.
20% of the gun-banners are the ones who want to ban guns, because they know the People must be kept powerless, to enact and enforce the Big Government Socialist agenda. When people can no longer defend themselves or their property, in swoops Government to redistribute everything.
And the 80 follow the 20, like clockwork.
JMWalker
Posted December 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink
Hehehehehe . . . JJ grabs a steak off my plate, and his/her grabbin’ hand would definitely be tenderized with a steak fork:-). And guess who would then get stuck with the entire bill, as I got up, chuckled, and walked out the door.
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What Walker, you don’t like having your property taken away?
Gassssppp! You sound like a C A P I T A L I S T !!!
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lindainks55
Posted December 7, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
Something else that always seems counterproductive and asinine to me is advertising on a blog, or anywhere else, that you carry a concealed weapon.
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Something that always seems counterproductive and asinine to me is advertising on a blog, or anywhere else, that you don’t carry a concealed weapon. Furthermore, advertising on a BLOG or anywhere else that you are merely a sheep waiting to be sheered.
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JimJohnson
Posted December 7, 2008 at 12:51 pm | Permalink
What Walker, you don’t like having your property taken away?
Gassssppp! You sound like a C A P I T A L I S T !!!
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If that’s the analogy you want to use, you’ve convinced, well, you.
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HLP
Posted December 7, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Permalink
Something that always seems counterproductive and asinine to me is advertising on a blog, or anywhere else, that you don’t carry a concealed weapon. Furthermore, advertising on a BLOG or anywhere else that you are merely a sheep waiting to be sheered.
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Eating mass quantities of Mexican food negates the need to carry a concealed weapon:-)
Let me get this straight Jim Jones:
Spying on americans and throwing them in jail indefinately without trial is GOOD for America and constitutional.
Requiring that gun owners be legal and not criminals is somehow bad for Americans and unconstitutional and socialist and anti-rights? Say wha?
Many of the same things in Hanks’ article were also given in the Wiki article. So I guess if Wiki is wrong, so is Hanks.
There should be NO LOOPHOLES to buying or selling firearms. And as you can see from the sting operations, there are many more being bought and sold illegally than being reported.
HLP, I undertand the whole proud father thing, next time you talk to your son ask him to explain OPSEC to you.
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zoot
Posted December 7, 2008 at 1:17 pm | Permalink
HLP, I undertand the whole proud father thing, next time you talk to your son ask him to explain OPSEC to you.
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I’m sure Hank knows what OPSEC is(operational security.)
Hank was a submariner and they often have the highest security clearances in the Navy.
Maybe he should practice some then. If not for his son’s sake… someone elses.
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zoot
Posted December 7, 2008 at 1:24 pm | Permalink
Maybe he should practice some then. If not for his son’s sake… someone elses.
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Didn’t see where he didn’t anything wrong, but haven’t read the whole blog.
Besides, Hank is retired Navy, he is not part of any active duty operations.
“Something that always seems counterproductive and asinine to me is advertising on a blog, or anywhere else, that you don’t carry a concealed weapon. Furthermore, advertising on a BLOG or anywhere else that you are merely a sheep waiting to be sheered.” — HLP
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Who has done that?
Certainly not the people who keep secrets that should be kept.
Mamma,
Your 1:07 and 1:11 posts were not clear.
Is the stress of being in management getting to you?
It’s tough I know, Managing the Evil Corporations in this country, but somebody has to do the job of oppressing the workers’ right to an income without working for it.
HLP
Posted December 7, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Permalink
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lindainks55
Posted December 7, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
Something else that always seems counterproductive and asinine to me is advertising on a blog, or anywhere else, that you carry a concealed weapon.
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Something that always seems counterproductive and asinine to me is advertising on a blog, or anywhere else, that you don’t carry a concealed weapon. Furthermore, advertising on a BLOG or anywhere else that you are merely a sheep waiting to be sheered.
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Hank, the Sheep are Proud to be Helpless. They are Victims you know. Victims who need Government to take care of them.
It must take absolutely no Will to Live to brag about being so helpless and unable to defend yourself.
Dear Zoot,
I appreciate your concern but I deny you implication.
I’m retired Navy. I’ve been to schools at Quantico in relation to my submarine service. I had a top secret clearance in the Navy and I still know information that would scare you.
My boy does not share anything with me that is classified. Either in his service as a Marine or in his current civilian job. (which I won’t talk about) If I wanted to know about classified military operational information I’d subscribe to the NYT.
From your post, you may have some misconceptions about OPSEC. When the boy gets home, maybe he’ll take some time and explain OPSEC to you!
Besides, Hank is retired Navy, he is not part of any active duty operations
I understand this, I respect and am thankful for his service. Submariner… NOT the job for me. However… I know alot about his son, who IS active duty. I know his name, rank, where he was stationed, where he is going, his job, how many are going with him and where those people are from. “Loose lips sink ships” You know… like the subs did.
Say Momma,
I got a few helpful hints for you.
You said the other day that it was your job as manager to make everybody happy. That is, make your boss happy, your employees happy, and your customers happy.
You’ll burn out quickly and fail miserably with this approach.
The Helpful Hints:
1. Don’t worry about making all your employees happy. Make your best, hard-working, and productive employees happy.
2. Make your worst, laziest, unproductive employees very unhappy. It’s your job to piss them off to make them A) Get up to speed and do their jobs and earn their paycheck, or B) Get the hell out.
3. Make your customers happy, most of them anyway. (Can’t satisfy everyone) Provide the best service at the lowest price, and you’ll be in business for a while as long as you also satisfy #4 below.
4. Make your Investors (owners of your company) happy by bringing in a good return on their investment. (Nobody, even Libs, don’t invest their money where the return is too low) This will also make your boss happy.
5. Make yourself happy. If you can’t do 1 thru 4 above and still be happy, then you need to find a better job.
HLP
Posted December 7, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink
If I wanted to know about classified military operational information I’d subscribe to the NYT.
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LOL.
Course Hank, if you released the same information that the NYT puts into print, you’d be in Leavenworth.
The Press, they can break the law whenever it serves their cause.
If anyone is interested in what I did in the Navy, I highly recommend the book, “Blind Man’s Bluff”. It documents submarine operations during the cold war.
The chapter on the Batfish was about an operation when I was on the crew. (I can neither confirm nor deny any information about the mission of the Batfish)
“Hank, the Sheep are Proud to be Helpless. They are Victims you know. Victims who need Government to take care of them.”
—JimJohnson
That’s the absolute truth!!!
“If you have no capacity for violence and feel compassion for others, then you are a sheep.
If you have a capacity for violence and feel no compassion for others, you are a wolf.
If you have a capacity for violence and feel compassion for others, you are a sheepdog. Sheepdogs are warriors of the pastures.”
On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs – Dave Grossman
http://mwkworks.com/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html
“Society is similar to an egg. The core of an egg is soft and gooey. However, this core cannot exist or maintain its shape without being surrounded and protected by a hard shell. Society cannot exist and maintain its shape without being surrounded and protected by a hard shell of warriors. “
What is OPSEC?
Operations Security (OPSEC) is an analytic process used to deny an adversary information – generally unclassified – concerning our intentions and capabilities by identifying, controlling, and protecting indicators associated with our planning processes or operations. OPSEC does not replace other security disciplines – it supplements them
The information that is often used against us is not classified information; it is information that is openly available to anyone who knows where to look and what to ask.
They don’t have to look too hard or ask too many questions, when proud family members and friends are posting on blogs, myspace, facebook etc… The military is currently considering banning these activities to service members.
Peyuuuuu! The pile is really getting high in here!
Yes, let’s protect the Second Amendment, under the standard created in the Heller case. That’s settled law.
But I realize, after 8 years of an administration that didn’t even respect the Magna Carta, let alone the U.S. Constitution, how some of you might expect similar open defiance of the rule of law by his successor. It’s just more conservative projecting.
I have to wonder, though (specifically in Hank’s case), once again: How is that you can be such a bear on the Second Amendment, while you defended an administration that showed open contempt for the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Eighth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments? And even specifically defended such outrages?
{I’ll concede that the Bush administration at least gave lip service to the Tenth Amendment, though that didn’t stop it from ignoring federalist principles whenever it saw fit.}
Well Rage,
(specifically in Hank’s case)
Got in thing specifically in mind? Or are you just flapping your jaw?
crickets chirping
“How is that you can be such a bear on the Second Amendment, while you defended an administration that showed open contempt for the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Eighth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments?” — Rage
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The only explanation is that gun nuts aren’t interested in The Constitution only their material possessions.
There are, of course, many gun owners who are not gun nuts.
Sure, Hank, specifically, you defended the unconstitutional and brutal treatment of criminal suspects and detainees (First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Eight and Ninth and Fourteenth amendments), and Bush’s domestic spying program (First, Fourth and Ninth amendments).
For starters.
BTW, I found “crickets chirping” after a full two minutes quite amusing!
Unfortunately, I have a life. We can talk about your contempt for religious freedom (First) and equal protection of the laws (Fourteenth) later.
The only explanation is that gun nuts aren’t interested in The Constitution only their material possessions.
A perceptive observation, Linda. What are the three things you see these types consistently obsess upon? Money, guns, and themselves. And they honestly believe everyone else is secretly thinking the same way. If you aren’t obsessed with a Social Darwinist economy, then you must just want free stuff for yourself. If you aren’t obsessed with arming yourself to the teeth, it’s because you’re too much of a wimp to protect yourself.
It goes far beyond the prudent maxim of “looking out for number 1,” into a kind of narcissistic egoism.
The only explanation is that gun nuts aren’t interested in The Constitution only their material possessions.
There are, of course, many gun owners who are not gun nuts.
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Really? Any thing specific come to mind that supports your assertion, Linda dear?
Or is this just one more of your irrational rants?
Rage? Still here, still refusing to defend your assertions?
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HLP
Posted December 7, 2008 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
Well Rage,
(specifically in Hank’s case)
Got in thing specifically in mind? Or are you just flapping your jaw?
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(crickets chirping)
“. . .criminal suspects and detainees. . .”
LOL!
Are you referring to the armed combatants captured on battlefields? Or are you talking about terrorists with no affiliation to any legitimate country?
Ones that are not protected by our Constitution nor are they protected by the Geneva Convention?
You are making assertions under a false premise against a false perception of what I believe. We might have an intelligent discussion if you desired to discuss your beliefs in a rational way without defaming me base upon your false preconceived notions.
Interesting view of reality the liberals seem to have. They think that all you have to do to deserve the benefits of our Constitution and justice system is to perform a terrorist attack against us!
“Ruth’s Cris Steak House is not expensive. It is great value for the meals it serves.”
There’s Ruth Chris in Hon. 40 bucks for a filet mignon. There is no piece of meat in the country that can justify that price!
Besides, a good steak is not difficult to make. Cast iron pan, on high heat. Sea salt and fresh ground pepper on a 2 inch thick filet. Sear on that hot pan for two minutes each side and then transfer to a pan on medium heat with about 4 tablespoons of melted butter and fresh rosemary and sage. Cook the steak in the pan for six minutes, spooning the butter over the steak the whole time, until a sweet medium rare. Let the steaks rest while you add some red wine to the pan, scrape with a wooden spoon and simmer. Toss in a little cream for a smooth sauce.
I made this for my fiance early in the game and he nearly wet his pants. He has since banned us from going to steakhouses.
Places like Ruth Chris and other high-end steakhouses, you are just paying for the feeling of superiority that you can afford a $40 steak and an extra $15 for sides.
Damn Tara… you married yet? :)
In the same pan you seared the steaks in, lower heat to medium high, melt butter, add garlic and dill. Add sliced mushrooms (fresh ports or fresh shitake) and asparagus spears. Cook till caramelized (about 3~5 minutes). Dump over steaks. Add a splash of red wine to pan to deglaze. Pour over everything. Pig out.
bb… gonna get pen and paper
Obama pledges not to smoke in White House
WASHINGTON (AP)
“There are times where I’ve fallen off the wagon,” the president-elect said when asked in a broadcast interview whether he has kicked the habit.
Obama said in that interview that he had bummed a cigarette a couple of times during the campaign. “But I figure, seeing as I’m running for president, I need to cut myself a little slack,” he said.”
The guy doesn’t even have the self discipline to quit smoking…..and he gets elected President. Stupid!
hehehe
Have you ever had a Kobe steak, Tara? I had a fillet mignon in Agana. I paid a little more than $40 in 1969 dollars.
I was a second class at the time, just back from a 65 day patrol. I’d have paid twice that for the salad!
Hell, have you ever had the fillet at Ruth’s Cris? I know a little place in the Caribbean that could put Ruth’s Cris prices in perspective for you. I’ve paid more than $40 for the snifter of Napoleon brandy after the meal!
Superiority? Nah, I’m an old man. I gets me pleasures where I can.
Is that all ya’ got boxlock?
You’d better temper your spleen venting, Obama’s going to be presdient for 8 years.
Hey Hank… got a song for you to listen to. Bruce Springsteens “Glory Days” Glory Days… they’ll pass ya by Hank. Oh, keep it up and everyone will still think your “second class”.
Just took two rib eyes out of the freezer to thaw for tomorrow! Too late today, but I’m trying Tara’s recipe for tomorrow.
I don’t have anything 2 inches thick, I’ve run out of the steaks I cut from a rib eye prime cut we got for the commissary last spring.
I like my asparagus separate, I’ll substitute red onions instead.
I’ve had kobe meat just once, Hank, straight from Japan–not the american wagyu you normally see in restaurants.
That’s why my first post said there’s piece of meat IN THE COUNTRY that can justify that price.
I would consider pawning my engagement ring for a Kobe steak ;)
But Ruth Chris, I went there for a rehersal dinner and I was underwhelmed. I don’t mind dropping 80 dollars for a meal on a special occasion–good food is worth every penny–but not at a steakhouse.
There’s only so much magic you can work with a piece of meat thrown on a fire, and it sure as hell isn’t worth that money….
Hey Zoot,
Being a second class on a submarine is the perfect rank! Ya gotta work like a dog, but you can get away with it drunk or sober!
Where was this Chiefs team most of the season? Course the game isn’t over, they could still disappoint.
When sauteing those mushrooms if you use about half and half butter and olive oil vs. all butter it will add a great flavor and won’t burn as easily as butter alone.
The best steaks I’ve ever tasted were eaten at my dining room table and came off a charcoal grill in my backyard. My hubby has spoiled me from ordering steak “out.” There are parts of the country where seafood is what should be ordered, especially by a landlocked Kansan. In upper Massachusetts I’ve watched them lower the lobster trap and then bring it back in with the lobster they prepare for my meal. I’ve eaten great salmon in Vancouver, Mahimahi in Hawaii…
My, my. All we need is farmgrrl sharing and I’m going to be really hungry by dinnertime!
Thank you for not getting nasty Hank. It’s 0130 and I’m cranky. I thank you for your service. If we were to ever meet I’d buy you a beer and beg you to tell me about your Glory Days. Been HERE going on 15 months and people are getting a little prickly! Myself included.
Denver just scored. Might be too soon for the Chiefs to celebrate.
0 to 0 in Pittsburgh, my favorite team is the one beating Dallas! Go Steelers!
See… I knew we agreed on something!
Hell Zoot,
I’ll buy the beer for anyone that will listen to my ‘glory days’!
And the only time I root for Pittsburg is when they play Dallas.
Hank,
Your inability to acknowledge basic, fundamental principles, undisputed either by the people who wrote and ratified the Bill of Rights, or Supreme Court precedent, is so not my problem.
But feel free to trumpet your incredible ignorance as fact. It’s what you do.
But I would note, for probably the tenth time, that the inescapable conclusion of your “logic” would mean that any resident alien could detained without probable cause, and just as summarily executed, at the whim at the Executive branch. I know you weak-minded cons like to confuse Gitmo, Bagram, and other extended kidnappings with battlefield detentions, but it just so.
“just isn’t so” (sometimes I hate Wordpress)
Hank…I can’t believe you weren’t out here to watch Santa fly in. I got a hug and some chocolate!
And you don’t have the self discipline to quit blogging stupid stuff Box.
Amazing the stupid sh*t they keep coming up with to “prove” Obama won’t be a good leader. No wonder they lost the election….and what sore losers.
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Mary_Caruso
Posted December 7, 2008 at 4:47 pm | Permalink
Hank…I can’t believe you weren’t out here to watch Santa fly in. I got a hug and some chocolate!
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We’re going to a herding clinic in a few days, it’s groom dog day. I’m in the process of bathing and brushing out three Beardies. We also gave the Lilly Beth a haircut, she’ll get her bath tomorrow.
I’ll be by for chocolate later! (be careful of Santa’s hugs!)
Well JimJones, I’ll tell ya.
I can’t make my great employees happy when they’re asked to pick up the slack constantly for the p-poor employees. If it were up to me I’d have no p-poor employees, but unfortunately I have found that you can’t just fire your p-poor staff. I do give preferences to the employees I feel are invaluable. And I would very much like to increase their pay.
However, for some reason bosses seem to have been persuaded to believe that pay is not important and that simple recognition is enough. To which I call bunk. Obviously you don’t want to stay in a job you hate at any rate, and so recognition and loving your job are important, but so is earning enough to make it worth your while. We’ll never keep the good employees until we pay them their worth. And that’s something my hands are tied on. I give my input on raises, etc. But ultimately its the big boss’s decision.
And another thing. There are a whole generation of spoiled brats coming out who think that their employment is a hobby or a game that they can disregard anyone else’s feelings and work only when it is convenient for them. I have always always always gone the extra mile for my customers, and that kind of work ethic is what I expect. It makes me sad to see so many who don’t.
I’ll also tell you another thing. I have discovered, and I’ve been actually enlightened, that my minority workers are beating the pants off my white workers overall. Not all- I do have some darn great white employees too, but I expected it to be more evenly across the board. I have not ONE minority that I consider in the p-poor group. Not one.
And Jim Jones, just what did any of this have to do with gun ownership????
Let me guess who you are…
How to Succeed in Business Without Really Aligning –
http://wpcomics.washingtonpost.com/client/wpc/td/
“And you don’t have the self discipline to quit blogging stupid stuff Box.”
—P_mama
Anybody in his highly visible position that doesn’t have the self-discipline to stop smoking cigarettes doesn’t deserve a lot of respect.
Smokers are considered by many as self-destructive, reckless lifestyle kamikazes lacking self-control, self-regard, dignity and panache.
He11 anyone knows there is absolutely nothing good comes from smoking….nothing. He knows it’s bad, he should simply quit, period….but apparently he can’t. That’s mental weakness on his part.
We’ve had a few that smoked cigars occasionally, and Reagan smoked but quit, same for Eisenhower. You’d have to go back to Jackson and Adams to find real smokers, and of course they didn’t know from a medical perspective it was so bad.
No, a smoker to day in his position is a bad example of self-control.
As it turns out the same Chiefs team showed up today as did the whole season. For many seasons? ;-(
I don’t recall ever “turning” on Mary there Hank.
I don’t hate rich people. I hate greedy, self absorbed people.
And bawks?
You are the LAST person who should talk about dignity or panache after you punked yourself for everyone to see.
You’re a Chiefs fan Linda?
You are a sweet lady. Ya deserve better than that self inflicted misery.
My poor father was similarly afflicted. My being a Raiders fan led to an… interesting household.
Never underestimate the Chiefs’ capability to disappoint.
I’ve not watched football in many years now. Money and free agency ruined the game.
“You are the LAST person who should talk about dignity or panache after you punked yourself for everyone to see.”
Oh Bull BJ, you remain an adolescent imbecile.
You offer a ridiculous school yard challenge, get shown a lesson that you deserved, and then try and save face with comments like those above.
Only a complete idiot would think, 1. to offer a silly gesture like you did, and 2. to think anyone would take you seriously and show up.
You are too easy BJ.
“Boxlock20″ alleges –
“You’d have to go back to Jackson and Adams to find real smokers…”
FDR, Cleveland, Grant, Taylor….
C’mon, “Boxlock20,” even your little insignificant bouts of ignorant arrogance indicates you spew stuff you know nothing (or think not at all) about.
It’s a picayune point, mind you. But it’s so indicative of most of your contributions to this forum. Like those Right wing-nut radiots you listen to, you throw out stuff that might sound knowledgeable even as you reveal you have no idea what you’re ranting about.
One of my favorite moments of Barack Obama’s “Meet the Press” interview was the tangential question about whether he’s really given up cigarettes.
Such a non-issue and yet you have made it your raison d’être du jour.
It was one of those classic non-denial denials. Yeah, he might smoke a butt outside on the colonnade before dispatching the Marines to your house to confiscate your guns… but, in Obama’s words, “You won’t catch me smoking in the White House.”
Idiots like you will be obsessed with “catching” him smoking “in” the White House.
So tell us right now, “Boxlock20″ –
Is a smoke on the colonnade between the West Wing and the main mansion actually “in” the White House?
Because that seems to be what’s important to right wing-nuts such as you.
It’s as if Obama just tossed out meaningless pork chop to the pack of rabid dogs who are chasing him.
And the dogs aren’t even dancing poodles anymore. They’re tiny little toy Phoo-Phoos nipping at his ankles over stuff that means absolutely nothing.
Oh YEAH I forgot that you were too chicken to stand up for your own beliefs in person bawks.
There was that too.
No, I meant the several times you have been caught with your pants down in your posts. The “McCain supporter mutilated by Obama supporter” and such?
Hank…I can’t believe you weren’t out here to watch Santa fly in.
I saw him!!!! Not flying in. He was riding a motorcycle east on Pawnee.
“BlueJay” admits a mortal sin –
“My being a Raiders fan led to an… ”
Ah! A broken home.
That explains a lot.
I was a kid in old Municipal Stadium the day Ben Davidson speared Lenny Dawson when the KC quarterback was splayed out on the field. I got a cheap seat from a scalper and it ended up being smack dab behind a pillar. But I saw Ben Davidson’s spike. And the ensuing fight.
I also was in Municipal Statdium that game when all of KC’s receivers were injured and Hank Stram came out with a 2-tight end straight T-formation.
I think Dawson threw the ball three times in that game. I’m not sure, but I think Madden was Oakland’s coach at the time. Anyway, Madden has said Oakland were just positive the straight-T — a strategy straight out of 1942 — was a ploy, so they always kept the defensive backfield away from the line of scrimmage and the Chiefs just got 4 yards on the ground every play.
You can do that all afternoon. And Kansas City did just that.
Hey Rox, I’ve been meaning to write but keep forgetting. SO, since you are here.
What happened to that pic you took of all of us?
“I was a kid in old Municipal Stadium the day Ben Davidson speared Lenny Dawson when the KC quarterback was splayed out on the field.”
I’m a little young to remember that.
But there are so many other wonderful memories of REAL football! Tarkenton run over like a road apple in the Super Bowl. The “holy roller”. Lester “stickum” Hayes….
BlueJay sings…
Memories, pressed between the pages of my mind…
For SO long, the most penalized team in the NFL AND the one that won the most games.
Now? Nobody puts a hit anymore. You might end up on the same team with the guy next year.
Bleh.
The moment in history is upon us. The time has finally come to bring black and white together, in the form of the man Barack Obama our next president.
It is fitting therefore, that this nation commit to recognizing the half-white half-white half breed, in a permanent memorial.
Some have suggested that we begin the process now to add Obama’s head to the Mount Rushmore monument.
The site is representative of what Obama offers. It is located in the heart of the Black Hills. The geology itself is representative of the great American melting pot. The granite peaks are centered on metamorphic Precambrian rock later tumbled by magma of igneous nature. Later buried under in sedimenatary sandstones and other sediments during the Cambrian Period. Finally, the rock formation was exposed again to erosion during the tectonic uplift which left them in the majestic state visible today.
No finer representative of the hodgepodge of beliefs, race, religion, and backgrounds Americans have become, than the Blackhills and Barack Obama.
Please join me in supporting this movement. It’s never too early to donate. But first, help me help another group of Americans to finish their monument in the Black Hills.
http://www.crazyhorse.org/giving/GRCEnter.htm
PS: It may be necessary due to greater importance of Obama, to build his image on a higher mountain of a grander nature. Perhaps above and towering over the lesser presidential images on Mount Rushmore. All the more reason to donate early and often.
If McCain had won, the issue of “gun-grabbing” would have just been a bit more sly.
“gun-grabbing” if McCain won?
I’ll bet the shelves wouldn’t be empty of guns and bullets as they are now. Go try and buy a semi-auto
rifle. And ammo. Available at a huge markup in price.
Political_mama
Posted December 7, 2008 at 5:17 pm | Permalink
Well JimJones, I’ll tell ya.
I can’t make my great employees happy when they’re asked to pick up the slack constantly for the p-poor employees.
–Why that IS the Socialist way! The hard workers have to work harder so the lazy can pretend to earn a paycheck. I thought you were for that!
If it were up to me I’d have no p-poor employees, but unfortunately I have found that you can’t just fire your p-poor staff.
–Why not? Do we need more employment laws?
And another thing. There are a whole generation of spoiled brats coming out who think that their employment is a hobby or a game that they can disregard anyone else’s feelings and work only when it is convenient for them. I have always always always gone the extra mile for my customers, and that kind of work ethic is what I expect. It makes me sad to see so many who don’t.
–And why do you think that is? The young generation has been taught by Public Edukation that they just have to show-up, to get a passing great. And why work harder if you don’t earn any more pay then those who do?
I’ll also tell you another thing. I have discovered, and I’ve been actually enlightened, that my minority workers are beating the pants off my white workers overall. Not all- I do have some darn great white employees too, but I expected it to be more evenly across the board. I have not ONE minority that I consider in the p-poor group. Not one.
–I have over 200 employees and I’ve yet to pull a report by race to compare their performance by race. Not sure how I would do that, and not sure why anyone would want to do that. I thought you were just supposed to treat everybody the same, regardless of race.
Employers demand your best from you and offer as little as they think they can get away with…
“I saw him!!!! Not flying in. He was riding a motorcycle east on Pawnee.” — Predestined
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Pre,
He also sits on a porch bench only a block away from my house. He sits and waves and smiles AND ho ho hos. I’m sooo tickled! He has never missed my house and always leaves plenty of love and goodwill. This year he is so close. ;-)
I treat people in the job according to how they perform at work. I have no ‘report’ by race, I just know my workforce therefore I don’t have to have a written report.
No, the ones that I’m talking about are those whose daddies and mommies always took off from work whenever they had a play or a musical, or just wanted a day off. They were the priviliged who could do that, so apparently they never learned that, hey, sometimes you just gotta suck it up and work. They also have their parents or a spouse helping to support them. My poorer employees are working hard. Its the wealthier ones that I’m having the most trouble with. Because they don’t feel they HAVE to actually make sacrifices.
You have it all wrong. Gee, imagine that.
RoaCH
Posted December 7, 2008 at 7:16 pm | Permalink
PS: It may be necessary due to greater importance of Obama, to build his image on a higher mountain of a grander nature. Perhaps above and towering over the lesser presidential images on Mount Rushmore. All the more reason to donate early and often.
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How about Devils Tower in Wyoming?
http://www.nps.gov/deto/
Obama’s face could be carved on all four sides (N,E,W,S) OR put a rotating Head Carving on top, with Red Devil Laser Eyes shooting out.
A Close Encounter of the 3rd Kind.
Okay here Monkey, I said a few smoked cigars, which unless inhaled is not the same as smoking cigarettes. Here is the list for you who seems unable to read my post, and only seem interested in correcting someone to make either them look bad or yourself good (and that’s impossible).
None except the more recent Presidents would have know the extent of the harm….there is no excuse for Barry.
http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/o_SMOKE.html
President Tobacco Issue In Office?
John Adams smoked and chewed yes
Andrew Jackson addicted? -
Zachary Taylor chewed tobacco -
Millard Fillmore nonsmoker -
Ulysses Grant abuse? - (cigars)
Chester Arthur lavish lifestyle yes
Grover Cleveland cigars -
Benjamin Harrison cigar smoker -
William Taft generally abstained -
Warren Harding tobacco habits -
Dwight Eisenhower chimney, then quit -
John Kennedy cigars -
Gerald Ford pipe smoker -
Ronald Reagan quit smoking -
George W. Bush tobacco chewing -
George W. Bush cigars yes
David, I agree. But I also feel that you should do your best no matter what.
By the way….’eat it Monkey’!
DavidB
Posted December 7, 2008 at 7:34 pm | Permalink
Employers demand your best from you and offer as little as they think they can get away with…
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Unless you have more employable skills then a monkey.
Then you sell your labor to the highest bidder.
I like that, but I don’t think “Devils Tower” will fly very well with the southern Baptists.
“No, I meant the several times you have been caught with your pants down in your posts. The “McCain supporter mutilated by Obama supporter” and such?” —BlueJay
That was reported on the national news, and the local news where it was reported to have happened.
I at least have that as an excuse, and a pretty good one at that.
You….you were caught standing in the cold in a parking lot after making your asinine challenge. And I simply let you walk right into you making a fool of yourself.
It tickled me the whole time and frankly still does. Thanks jerk.
Of course to save money, they could just chip away the existing presidents heads and replace all three with the one of Obama’s.
Did you know Mount Rushmore cost less than one million dollars to build?
And, quoting Stephen A. Douglas in one of the most memorable Lincoln/Douglas debates of 1858, “Boxclock20″ said –
“By the way….’eat it Monkey’!”
Yeah.
That’s the level of debate we’ve come to expect from the right wing-nuts who participate on WE Blog.
Monkeyhawk, oh wizard of all, who spouts profanity at the least perceived intimidation.
Speaks like a prophet for the left… (snort, snort)
Hmmmm ya left out FDR, and Truman, and Clinton…. Looks like your list is a bit short…. Oh yea, Nixon smoked like a furnace…
Awfully angry and reactionary given your “victory” over me there bawks. Ya don’t come across as amused. Clown.
and Clinton
Does smoking dope count?
Oh, yea, you also left of Johnson….
“RoaCH” tries –
“Monkeyhawk, oh wizard of all, who spouts profanity at the least perceived intimidation.”
Somehow I doubt the sincerity of “RoaCH’s” prostrations.
Oh, and…
Cite?
About the profanity, I mean.
Say Roach, you see the Ruths Chris story above?
JR went apeshit over a $12 potato and driving 100 miles for dinner.
The guy thinks going beyond the closest McDonalds is a long extravagant trip.
“That was reported on the national news”
AFTER it was proven to be a hoax, the “McCain supporter mutilated!” story was indeed national news.
BEFORE it was proven a hoax, the closest it got to a national audience was Sean Hannity.
And you ran with it like a good little flunkie.
Oh and if this is you “tickled” Ya probably don’t wanna get p ‘d off. You might pop a vessel or something!
Can’t wait for the Libs to gain power and they’ll ban fast food, right after they solve global warming, bring Peace on Earth, find Free Endless Non-polluting Energy, Ban Guns, and Redistribute Wealth.
The guy doesn’t even have the self discipline to quit smoking…..and he gets elected President. Stupid!
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Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance didn’t get much notice at the time:
“Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.” Barack Obama.
For the next election, we will have a candidate who did LSD and heroin.
Jimmuh! in any nic….
find Free Endless Non-polluting Energy
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Just saw Sixty Minutes where they did a segment in Saudi Arabia interviewing the oil minister.
Says the Saudi production price of oil = $2 a barrel.
Also they are building just ONE production site which will yield more oil than all the proven reserves in the USA. From one location!
They anticipate the Saudi reserves at 280 billion barrels. But they believe they have another 200 billion of recoverable oil beyond that.
The predict the USA and the rest of the world will still be burning fossil fuels for at least TWENTY more years. In that time technology will allow them to recover the 200 billion additional barrels.
I believe they are correct on all counts.
But the American consumer/tax payer will be paying for energy credits/higher fuel taxes/higher costs starting promptly in 2009..
Roach,
I have been on here screaming at the top of lungs about buying guns and ammo. For at least two years. This stuff we’re seeing was inevitable (both friggin’ sides want the 2nd to die). But I have NO worries and I’ve “made” lots of money on my investments. Haven’t cashed in on it, but my fiat Federal Reserve Notes have been WELL spent. There might be some come-late fools who are wishing in one hand and crapping in the other, but not me. People laughed about my gun and garden rants. I’m anxious to see how this all plays out, scared as Hell, but anxious.
Mc Cain would have grabbed up the guns (from the gun-huggers) a lot easier than Obama. At least Obama will get a fight, McCain dummies would just hand em over when he said so.
Political_mama
Posted December 7, 2008 at 7:36 pm | Permalink
I treat people in the job according to how they perform at work. I have no ‘report’ by race, I just know my workforce therefore I don’t have to have a written report.
No, the ones that I’m talking about are those whose daddies and mommies always took off from work whenever they had a play or a musical, or just wanted a day off. They were the priviliged who could do that, so apparently they never learned that, hey, sometimes you just gotta suck it up and work. They also have their parents or a spouse helping to support them. My poorer employees are working hard. Its the wealthier ones that I’m having the most trouble with. Because they don’t feel they HAVE to actually make sacrifices.
You have it all wrong. Gee, imagine that.
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No, you are judging people by their race and background and digging into all kinds of things that could very well get you hooked into a discrimination lawsuit. If you want to consider yourself “right”, then please do carry on.
You think it’s ok to evaluate people by race Momma, I don’t.
NOW who’s the evil boss?
Hmmmm wondering how many of johnson’s 200 employees are minorities??
Ruths Chris story above
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No I didn’t see it, but I’m not surprised. I believe there are some poster here who have never been outta their home county not to mention Kansas.
Funny story: Honeymoon in 1980. St Louis. Downtown revolving restaurant overlooking the Mighty Mississippi, the arch above, and Busch Stadium.
I didn’t know what a la cart meant until then. Green beans back then were $8. My blushing bride didn’t have a clue, and I didn’t have a pot to
p-ss in. So, being a gentleman, I had her order first. Then, I ordered a plain hamburger and ice water for myself.
RoaCH
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:08 pm | Permalink
But the American consumer/tax payer will be paying for energy credits/higher fuel taxes/higher costs starting promptly in 2009..
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Oh no Roach, not ALL Americans will be paying the high costs. The lower 50% will receive an ObamaCare Debit Card. All welfare programs will be tapped to give a monthly allowance to the deadbeats.
This allowance will include Subsidized Energy Dollars, which they can use to buy cheaper gasoline, electricity, and natural gas.
Socialists, it will be great for about 6 months. Then the SHTF.
I never ever said I evaluated people by race. Nor by their background. I was simply making an observation based on work ethic.
It still remains, that those who have the money are succeeding not based on output, and those who don’t are working their butts off for very little in return.
I heard last week that the FBI has a sting operation based out of KC, trying to shut down as many illegal gun sales as possible during gun shows….
Y’all better hurry and get all those assault rifles, etc., registered, before the FBI/ATF start knocking on doors….
Chas
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:13 pm | Permalink
Hmmmm wondering how many of johnson’s 200 employees are minorities??
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Actually Chas, our HR people track that and give us a report every year, with no names of course.
My group is about 5% more diverse then the local metro area.
Why do you care? I don’t.
I hire the most qualified applicants based on BFOQ.
laughed about my gun and garden rants
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I don’t think I laughed. I wish I had bought stocked up on semiauto’s six months ago – like I was advised to. I could have made a killing reselling at today’s prices. But six months ago, I was worried about my investments. Again too late.
I should have moved to conservative investments in 2000. But figured I had a ten year window, and you know what they say….. investing for long term.
So here I sit on a much smaller nest egg. Now with a shorter horizon of earnings.
Chas
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:16 pm | Permalink
I heard last week that the FBI has a sting operation based out of KC, trying to shut down as many illegal gun sales as possible during gun shows….
Y’all better hurry and get all those assault rifles, etc., registered, before the FBI/ATF start knocking on doors….
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Registered? Ummm, why would anyone do that Chas?
ObamaCare Debit Card
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You are probably foretelling the future JJ. I’ll bet the Debit Card will even have Obama’s image on it!
get all those assault rifles
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Hey Reverend Chas, just WTF is an “assualt” rifle?
a before u
assault rifle.
Political_mama
Posted December 7, 2008 at 7:36 pm | Permalink
“I treat people in the job according to how they perform at work. I have no ‘report’ by race, I just know my workforce therefore I don’t have to have a written report.
No, the ones that I’m talking about are those whose daddies and mommies always took off from work whenever they had a play or a musical, or just wanted a day off. They were the priviliged who could do that, so apparently they never learned that, hey, sometimes you just gotta suck it up and work. They also have their parents or a spouse helping to support them. My poorer employees are working hard. Its the wealthier ones that I’m having the most trouble with. Because they don’t feel they HAVE to actually make sacrifices.”
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You’re such a bigot Mamma you can’t see all the judgements you are making of people who work for you, in your comments above.
Keep it up woman, the lawsuit will be coming very soon for you.
RoaCH
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:20 pm | Permalink
ObamaCare Debit Card
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You are probably foretelling the future JJ. I’ll bet the Debit Card will even have Obama’s image on it!
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You got it! His face will be on coins, currency, monuments, and the Debit Card.
Criminals For Gun Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L3kMuN8sjk
My poorer employees are working hard. Its the wealthier ones
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What a crock of sh-t!
Most interesting >>>>
“A BFOQ is a legal exception to an otherwise discriminatory hiring practice that is “reasonably necessary to the normal operation of a particular business.” The BFOQ may be requested if “the essence of the business operation would be undermined if the business eliminated its discriminatory policy.” Note that allowing a company to hire employees based on their religion, gender, or national origin where those factors are reasonably necessary to the normal operation of that particular business or enterprise does not permit religion-based, gender-based or national origin-based differences in pay to those holding the same job. With a BFOQ the burden of proof always lies with the employer.”
http://www.deed.state.mn.us/wia/policy/TitleIII/3000-32a.htm
RoaCH
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:21 pm | Permalink
get all those assault rifles
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Hey Reverend Chas, just WTF is an “assualt” rifle?
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Oh no! Here comes another Wiki/Dailykos/Brady definition!
“No, the ones that I’m talking about are those whose daddies and mommies always took off from work whenever they had a play or a musical,”
With all due respect political mama, that is called being an involved parent. I would NEVER put work over my kid and have always let the employer know that up front. SOME will not hire when they hear this. And that is fine. The idea that anyone would put a job over their kids is part of what is wrong with this country.
JJ great link!
Sorta puts things in the right perspective by voicing concerns about substandard working conditions.
Not at all bs.
RoaCH
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:21 pm | Permalink
get all those assault rifles
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Hey Reverend Chas, just WTF is an “assualt” rifle?
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Its called a TYPO, Idiot…. Why dont you jump on John’s typos, or Boxlicker’s typos???
It happens now and then…. Somebody remind me to point it out the next time RoaCH makes a type of non-significance….
John’s = Johnson’s
I would NEVER put work over my kid
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Damn skippy right BlueJay. You tell that evil boss Pmomma!
You absolutely have a RIGHT to take off any darn time you want to go to one of your son’s school events, ball games, or even to pick him up so he doesn’t get assaulted walking to the bus.
A weapon that can fire multiple rounds would be very useful when multiple criminals are invading your home:
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7994738&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
Local University Students Targeted In Armed Home Invasion Robbery
Last Edited: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2008, 7:00 PM EST
Created: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2008, 3:06 PM EST
Area Students Tied Up, Robbed At Gunpoint In Home Invasion
Home Invasion Robberies Targeting Temple Students
PHILADELPHIA — Philadelphia police are investigating another gunpoint home invasion robbery and, again, the victims are local college students
Chas: I am NOT jumping on your typo’s.
I am asking you to define just what an assualt or assault rilfe is.
I mean, you want to BAN them. So the least you can do is tell me just WTF one is.
It would be nice for an 80-year old to be able to defend themselves in some way:
http://www.newarkadvocate.com/article/20081114/UPDATES01/81114024
Robber invades two North End homes (video)
Victims in both home invasions were at least 80 years old
By AMY HOLLON • Advocate Reporter • November 14, 2008
According to witness accounts, the man cut the phone lines to a house, then cut a hole in a screen door before kicking in the wooden door. Once inside, the man, who kept his face covered, demanded money from the residents. Police said the man was armed with a knife.
The two north Newark home invasions within 20 hours of each other already have caused some nearby residents to change their locks.
“It was scary around here last night,” said Bill Clifford, a resident who lives near one of the robberies. “Everybody is definitely shook up.”
At about 1:30 a.m. Thursday, the robber entered a home in the 1,000 block of Pierson Drive and demanded money. Later that day, at about 9:40 p.m., a man with the same description completed the same crime in the 400 block of Meadowbrook Drive, the release states.
No, sometimes kids need to learn sacrifice. I gave up a lot of time, and I worked my butt off. I missed some things I wish I didn’t. However, having a way to earn a living IS the best for everyone.
Chas
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:16 pm | Permalink
Y’all better hurry and get all those assault rifles
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Psssst! Chas!!
You spelled it correctly. I spelled it wrong.
Now answer my question and stop crying.
RoaCH
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:27 pm | Permalink
My poorer employees are working hard. Its the wealthier ones
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What a crock of sh-t!
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Yeah, no judgements being made there. No personal information is being used to discriminate in any way! (sarcasm off)
And no I don’t mind if someone asks for a day off to attend an event. Geez I’m not heartless. However, to take EVERY this and that off is ridiculous.
sacrifice
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Political_mama? Did you type the above word?
What is wrong with you? Have you abandoned your socialist democrat and liberal values?
You may be in danger of being labeled a broken machine.
Guess you should just dial 911….
http://www.kctv5.com/news/17808926/detail.html
People Tied Up In Home Invasion
Suspects Arrested In Parking Lot Outside Apartment Crime Scene
POSTED: 7:21 am CDT October 27, 2008
UPDATED: 1:23 pm CDT October 27, 2008
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. — Armed men forced their way into an Overland Park apartment early Monday morning and tied up the people inside, police said.
Police said the four people in the apartment were tied up with plastic ties while the men robbed the apartment at the Dunes of St. Andrews complex in the 13600 block of King Street about 12:45 a.m., but they broke free when the armed men left.
That’s right, “JimJohnson” –
Barack Obama stays awake nights with only one goal in mind: to ruin your life.
Brace yourself, because at one-minute past noon January 20, 2009, he’s got the Black Helicopters coming to your
trailerhome to confiscate all your bibles, burn all your guns, kill your wife and rape your dog!All we “Libs” know that. And calling you a paranoid nut is simply our way to marginalize your otherwise idiotic paranoid rantings!
(Have you noticed how, since the election, we’ve already gotten rid of “MaxGrobnik” and “Franklin?” It’s no coincidence. We’ve carted them off to reeducation camps! Ha ha!!
You can’t stop us, “JimJohnson!”
Part of our Detroit bailout is commissioning a fleet of minivans that’ll cruise the streets and force every female past puberty get a compulsory D&C whether they’re pregnant or not! Girls Scouts, nuns… we’ll demand abortions whether they’re pregnant or not!
There’s gonna be a new Democratic Congress in power before January 20, 2009 which gives us ample time to make sure Barack Obama takes the oath of office on a Koran and in Arabic.
(I’ve invested heavily in “Burkas R Us” stores, soon to dominate mini-malls near you!)
And then we’re gonna force you to marry someone of your same gender. (”Reverend Moon, we read your book!”)
We’ve already figured out a way, “JimJohnson,” to take away every cent you earn to distribute it to people who are poorer than you. But don’t worry, after the first month you’ll be among the poorest and qualify for all the money I’ve stolen from you, and I’ll turn out to be the CONservative.
We have it all planned out.
And you, specifically, are our target, “JimJohnson.”
We’ve got four years guaranteed to play Zeno’s Paradox against your ass. First we “Libs” will take all your money, then you will take all we’ve gleaned from you! Then vice versa, then back again!
You have us pegged, “JimJohnson.”
First lesson in every kindergarten on January 21, 2001 will be the proper technique for blow jobs.
“It’s swallow, don’t spit, damnit! Why do you hate America?!”
Did I mention we’re coming after your guns? No everyone’s; just yours. We’re gonna make an example out of you.
BlueJay
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:30 pm | Permalink
“No, the ones that I’m talking about are those whose daddies and mommies always took off from work whenever they had a play or a musical,”
With all due respect political mama, that is called being an involved parent. I would NEVER put work over my kid and have always let the employer know that up front. SOME will not hire when they hear this. And that is fine. The idea that anyone would put a job over their kids is part of what is wrong with this country.
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PMomma’s an Evil Employer now BJ.
RoaCH — Go suck an egg!!
” four years guaranteed ”
There are no guarantees in life. Only death and taxes are.
Likely four more years and even likely four more after that. But no guarantees.
All due respect political mama, but if you are already thinking that way you are on your way to being part of the problem.
IF I had not quit aircraft due to my health, I would have ended up having to quit to help care for my ill father.
I worked with a guy whose mother died of pancreatic cancer. The bastards expected him to “suck it up” and get back to work in 2 days. The SAME guy had a daughter who had a brain tumor.
They wanted to charge him an attendance infraction for being there for her treatments. I beat that one and made them give him back pay.
RoaCH
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:32 pm | Permalink
I would NEVER put work over my kid
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Damn skippy right BlueJay. You tell that evil boss Pmomma!
You absolutely have a RIGHT to take off any darn time you want to go to one of your son’s school events, ball games, or even to pick him up so he doesn’t get assaulted walking to the bus.
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LOL!
Roach I am not a socialist. I’ve never been a socialist. I would just like for the ‘work hard and reap rewards’ to be actual truth in America and it isn’t.
I don’t agree with tip sharing, I don’t agree with across the board raises. I never HAVE. I agree with merit pay. I agree with employee PROTECTIONS for those who need to be protected from jerk employers. But I also think that employers should be able to get rid of bad employees.
Nothing about me has changed. I still believe in social justice. I still believe that most of the time, workers are screwed.
And I still believe that there is a vast difference between what the poor has to do to survive and what the rich get away with that the poor can’t.
And I still think we have an obligation to take care of the ones who truly need it. And not by token gestures.
RoaCH — Go suck an egg!!
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Now Reverend Chas, is that any way to talk to another human? Especially in this joyous holiday holy time of year.
Shame on you.
PS: You don’t have a freaking clue what an assault rifle is. Not an inkling. Dippity do.
BlueJay
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:44 pm | Permalink
All due respect political mama, but if you are already thinking that way you are on your way to being part of the problem.
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It’s a slippery slope to hell in a hand basket.
I don’t agree with across the board raises
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You just shot the union down.
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employers should be able to get rid of bad employees
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Who decides what “bad” is? Anti-union PMomma?
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I would just like for the ‘work hard and reap rewards’ to be actual truth in America and it isn’t.
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And I agree with this last post too Pmomma. I think about that every time the government takes 15% of my potential income for FICA and medicare. I think about it when I pay 45% of my INCOME in taxes to the feds, state, and county (formally city too).
I think about that everytime you post about FREE healthcare insurance for the poor (who don’t work).
Man severely beaten during home invasion
Story by Marshanna Hester (Contact)
5:42 p.m. Wednesday, September 24, 2008
http://www.ktka.com/news/2008/sep/24/man_severely_beaten_during_home_invasion/
BJ that’s different and you know it. In those cases, filing for FMLA is appropriate. And that’s something I agree with, I support FMLA.
Jesus do you think that for one second I’ve forgotten what its like? Do you think that I’m not still taking care of my kids and my grandparents? No. Nothing has changed.
You’ve been sitting there waiting to jump all over me for this very thing because I became the boss and somehow I’m now a traitor. No. But there are expectations in a job that IS NOT FAIR to good employees nor the clients nor my company.
All due respect political mama, but if you are already thinking that way you are on your way to being part of the problem.
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And Pmomma comes face-to-face with her past and the reality that some people don’t believe management cares about the workers.
But there are expectations in a job that IS NOT FAIR to good employees nor the clients nor my company.
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Welcome to the real world of leaders. Eyes wide open?
Realize there are those who will never achieve what you have in life – either by inaction or lack of ability. And they will always put you down.
They are jealous of what they don’t have.
Political_mama
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:44 pm | Permalink
Roach I am not a socialist. I’ve never been a socialist. I would just like for the ‘work hard and reap rewards’ to be actual truth in America and it isn’t.
I don’t agree with tip sharing, I don’t agree with across the board raises. I never HAVE. I agree with merit pay.
–Oh, so you support merit pay for school teachers or across the board raises which the NEA requires?
But I also think that employers should be able to get rid of bad employees.
–And why can’t they? Why can’t YOU?
And you see the poor as lazy and not working for their own good and I know that simply is NOT TRUE.
The poor work circles around most people. They work harder and longer. And they deserve some reward and they are just spinning their wheels.
I have no beef with paying my taxes for anything that is worthwhile. I will pay my taxes for jails and prisons and to pay police fire ems wages, i’ll pay my taxes happily for healthcare for some handicapped kid I’ve never met. I will pay my taxes for group homes and foster care. And I won’t complain about it.
“You’ve been sitting there waiting to jump all over me for this very thing because I became the boss and somehow I’m now a traitor.”
I apologize if I have given you that impression. I don’t think I have posted any way but respectfully. At least that was my intention.
“BEFORE it was proven a hoax, the closest it got to a national audience was Sean Hannity.”
That’s not where I got it….I saw it on ‘Drudge’, and then the local TV news where it was to have happened.
Nothing was ever indicated that it was not true.
Only guys like you BJ, that simply have nothing about themselves that anyone could find respectful, jump all over that.
You’re sad.
Originally Posted by Bar-L
I guess that one reason we have so few break-ins in Oregon is that the Sheriff departments heavily promote concealed weapon classes and permits. I know that I feel better knowing when I leave my wife at the ranch that our dog “spike” is there and my wife has her 20th anniversary present-45GAP with laser grip.
Political_mama
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:50 pm | Permalink
You’ve been sitting there waiting to jump all over me for this very thing because I became the boss and somehow I’m now a traitor.
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Just another judgement made about you by someone else. Don’t worry about it.
Course you ARE the EVIL BOSS now.
“The only way you’ll get sued for shooting an intruder is if you let him live. If you ain’t justified in killing him, you ain’t justified in even showing the gun. It’s an all or nothing kind of thing.”
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size matters.
Roach I don’t agree with your statement. Not at all.
You are letting “Regular’s” puppet nics goad you and me into being at odds political mama.
Don’t fall for it. The guy hasn’t worked in years.
I’m sorry JR, perhaps I’ve been played by the righties who keep making that assertion, perhaps I just began believing it was true because you never stated otherwise.
Chas: You come up with a definition of an assault rifle yet, or were you just running your suck as usual with no cognitive brain process?
Oh yes, I SHOULD qualify.
It WAS FMLA that helped me help my friend and his ill daughter.
And then the dumb slob went right out and voted for bush!
BlueJay
Posted December 7, 2008 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
You are letting “Regular’s” puppet nics goad you and me into being at odds political mama.
Don’t fall for it. The guy hasn’t worked in years.
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Yes, please kiss and make-up.
Doesn’t JR remind you of many of those employees you complain about?
You know, the spoiled ones, the ones who want something for nothing, the ones who want time off every week for this that and the other, the ones who have endless excuses for not getting things done, the ones who constantly complain and never take any responsibility for themselves….
Sorry BlueJay: I am no one’s puppet. Please report all puppets/nic switchers to the WEBLOG editors.
Tough for you to believe there are more than one of us, but there it is.
And yes I do work.
Goodnite everyone, and have sweet dreams of Hope.
Each day going forward will be even more glorious then the last!
Obama will soon build his own kingdom, right here on Earth!
I am so inspired and filled with optimism at the hope the future now brings.
Everynight before I go to sleep, I read this. Obama inspires me oh so much!
“I should like to help everyone if possible; Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, black men, white, red, and yellow. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each others’ happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.
Greed has poisoned men’s souls; has barricaded the world with hate; we live in misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Industry that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge as made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than wealth we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. Modern communications and technology have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in man; cries out for universal brotherhood; for the unity of us all.
Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me, I say “Do not despair.” The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it’s written “the kingdom of God is within man”, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create prosperity, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power.
Let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men and women a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill their promise. They never will! Evil rulers free themselves but they enslave the people! Now let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world! To do away with national barriers! To do away with greed, with hate and intolerance! Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness.
Citizens of the world, in the name of democracy, let us all unite!
People can you hear me? Wherever you are, look up! The clouds are lifting! The sun is breaking through! We are coming out of the darkness into the light! We are coming into a new world; a kind new world, where men and women will rise above their hate, their greed, and brutality.
Look up! The soul of mankind has been given wings and at last he is beginning to fly. He is flying into the rainbow. Into the light of hope! Into the future! The glorious future! That belongs to you, to me, and to all of us. Look up, everyone! Look up!”
P_moma,
It doesn’t matter how hard or long one works as much as what they get done while doing it.
People are paid higher salaries for being in high demand. Gold is expensive and rare, iron is much cheaper and not nearly as rare, same with peoples skills. A heavy equipment driver gets paid more than the guy with the shovel because he accomplishes more and is harder to come by. Doctors get paid more than hamburger flippers because they are in higher demand, and their training is much harder and longer, and can not even be accomplished my most.
If I’m paying someone I don’t care so much how hard they work, I care how much they get done.
The poor typically have common skills that are easily sourced, if they are not lazy, and there is certainly some of that.
Hank no doubt will never give up his guns unless they pry it from his cold, dead fingers.
Hank, that can be arranged . . .
BTW, Obama’s not going to take anybody’s guns.
We’ve got a lot more hard work to do than worry about who has a flash suppressor on her semi-automatic rifle.
No harm no foul mama.
poor typically have common skills
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And why is that? Is it someone’s fault, other than the person in question?
Pmomma worked and studied and proved herself worthy of advancement. She worked “to get ahead”.
The poor either are not capable of achieving a skill more in demand – or they never took the initiative to do so.
And the lazy would naturally fall under the underachiever category and skill level.
“People are paid higher salaries for being in high demand. Gold is expensive and rare, iron is much cheaper and not nearly as rare, same with peoples skills.”
HAHAHAHAHA! Good one, Bawksalot, good one.
Dick Cheney made 36 million dollars in six months because he’s just that good.
BS.
He gets it because he can. People earn what they know how to pressure the company to get.
That’s why when Reagan busted unions, wages fell and never came back . . .
I SHOULD have answered their charges of what “they” projected I was thinking political mama. My bad.
Let the record show, no con here is qualified or authorized to speak for me or assume my opinions.
poor typically have common skills
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And why is that? Is it someone’s fault, other than the person in question?
—RoaCH
Certainly not my fault, but you’d never know it by reading many of the posters here. They think just because they are taking up space and using the sewer system they should be supported.
And, anyone that has advanced themselves is to be called selfish and other less desirable names.
Frankly…they make me sick.
Jim Johnson can mock it all he wants to, but hell yeah, I feel hope.
For the last eight years, we’ve been led by a guy who couldn’t get elected frat president.
Now we’ve got freaking Abraham Lincoln.
So, yer damn right, I AM LOOKING UP! Things are definitely looking up.
We can put people back to work, rebuild the unions, make it pay to be a working man again in this country, invest in new energy technology and in short build a better tomorrow.
The American people had a choice, JimJohnson. They had a choice between the old guard idiots like you or someone who says “we can do better.”
And they embraced the new and repudiated the old.
Sucks to be you, JJ.
“Dick Cheney made 36 million dollars in six months because he’s just that good.
BS.”
Ah, yeah…he is that good.
You I imagine on the other hand have few if any skills, and as a result are bitter toward anyone who does and can make something of themselves along with a good income.
Loser!
I emailed you JR.
“You know, the spoiled ones, the ones who want something for nothing, the ones who want time off every week for this that and the other, the ones who have endless excuses for not getting things done, the ones who constantly complain and never take any responsibility for themselves”
Just as he is not qualified to speak for me?
That poster also knows nothing of my work history. I don’t brag on it here because that is just not me.
Suffice it to say that as a union steward, my day did NOT end when the whistle sounded. As a matter of routine, I took jobs that others would not or could not in order to get management off our backs and out of our way.
Uh oh. Should I be afraid political mama?
No, I look forward to reading it. Hope I’m not in trouble.
I’m thinking and hoping the car manufacturer bail out, if it happens and I think it will, will further bust the unions.
That they will have to make concessions like they’ve never had to recently.
Though I think the bailout is as much or more to save the UAW as the companies themselves, but none the less it’s going to hurt the unions that have made the US auto industry so uncompetitive and bring them back down.
No trouble at all JR.
You’re a disgusting little bit of filth bawks.
I bet you never MADE anything or helped anyone other than yourself.
And now here you are HOPING for workers to lose rights and compensation. Those are Americans you are praying for suffering for.
It is my judgment that you are un American.
From Sen. Bernie Sanders:
“While the middle class has declined under President Bush’s reckless economic policies, the people on top have never had it so good. For the first seven years of Bush’s tenure, the wealthiest 400 individuals in our country saw a $670 billion increase in their wealth, and at the end of 2007 owned over $1.5 trillion in wealth. That is just 400 families, a $670 billion increase in wealth since Bush has been in office.
“In our country today, we have the most unequal distribution of income and wealth of any major country on earth, with the top 1 percent earning more income than the bottom 50 percent and the top 1 percent owning more wealth than the bottom 90 percent. We are living at a time when we have seen a massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the very wealthiest people in this country, when, among others, CEOs of Wall Street firms received unbelievable amounts in bonuses, including $39 billion in bonuses in the year 2007 alone for just the five major investment houses.”
But according to Boxlock, that’s simply because the rich deserve to be richer. They earned it.
Nevermind that the Columbian drug lords earned it too.
Did you get it JR?
Perhaps there is an unspoken word that the poor HAVE to be more productive, therefore, its best to keep them there?
I’m starting to think that’s the way the game is played.
And I think it stinks.
Good to know mama. NEVER let cons define you or who they think you should be.
Bawks?
How is it you wish hurt and pain on others? Not just here but in many of your positions?
Is it because you are such a small thing yourself?
You I imagine on the other hand have few if any skills, and as a result are bitter toward anyone who does and can make something of themselves along with a good income.
Loser!
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Really, Boxlock. I’m guessing that I make more than you, that I have more in assets, have a higher net worth, and will retire with more money than you.
But unlike most people that are somewhat well off, I don’t delude myself into thinking that “I earned every penny.”
A lot of it was simply being born to well-off parents that valued education and being born early enough to enjoy the widespread prosperity of the 70’s before Reagan gave the country to the already rich . . .
I’ll go look mama.
Bawks won’t run away while I’m gone. He’s only afraid of meeting me in person!
As for being “bitter” about Cheney, nothing could be further from the truth.
My idea of a living hell would be to have lived Cheney’s life and to do what he’s done.
Only 16 shopping days till Christmas…
Received and read political mama.
I’ll write you back later. Yikes!
But you and I are golden.
Good, thanks!
For example–I went to college before Reagan came in and eviscerated federal subsidies for colleges so he could pass more on to big military contractors, i.e., the extremely wealthy or his base.
When I went to a large Midwestern university, tuition was only 350 dollars a semester for an unlimited number of courses.
I took about 18 hours a semester so that averages out to about 20 dollars a credit hour. Inflation over 30 years would have tripled this to 60 dollars a credit hour. (Stamps were 15 cents then.)
KU is now charging over 200 dollars a credit hour.
http://www.tuition.ku.edu/rates.shtml#credit_hour
That’s more than THREE TIMES THE RATE OF INFLATION from when I was in college.
The only real change is that Reagan et al. defunded college education and shifted costs from direct subsidies to crushing student “loans.”
So, yeah, I got lucky to be born before the 20 year reign of the CONs . . .
“How is it you wish hurt and pain on others? Not just here but in many of your positions?”
I presume you are speaking of the UAW workers of course.
I’m not wishing pain on them or anybody, my hope is they survive. Their jobs will not survive unless the manufacturers can become profitable again and the UAW is a big reason that is not happening.
It is the union that has brought those workers to the brink of real hurt.
You are very dense to come to those conclusions BJ.
” I bet you never MADE anything or helped anyone other than yourself.
And now here you are HOPING for workers to lose rights and compensation. Those are Americans you are praying for suffering for.
It is my judgment that you are un American.”
What a dunderhead. No I’ve never done anything. Other than piping in the oxygen, air and vacuum drops in surgery at two of the three big hospitals, and sat in surgery at daybreak showing anesthesiologists how to operate their new oximeters and anesthetic gas analyzers. Or inservice the Respiratory Dept. on their new ventilators or done the discharge planning for vent. dependent patients going home or to alternate care.
Ha….you are a presumptuous ass BF and you prove that over and over.
Not a problem political mama.
Hey cons? You’ve pretty much had your way the last 25 years or so.
Thing is? There is a nasty side effect when you teach people that working people are meant to be poorly treated and exploited. That they are each on their own in a dog eat dog world.
You GET workers who really just don’t give a damn. They are reduced to a commodity, “human resources”, and that is just about what you can expect back from them. If I am just a worker, where I work is just a job. I can be replaced easily I can just as easily walk away.
At lunch the other day, a Republican leaning poster told me that the problem is that people are made to work FOR someone instead of WITH them. And I think that is sadly true.
‘BJ’ not ‘BF’
Wonder what I was thinking when I typed ‘BF’?
Perhaps there is an unspoken word that the poor HAVE to be more productive, therefore, its best to keep them there?
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You bring up a good point, P-Mom.
The American worker is the most productive in the world. More productive than Japan, Korea or Germany.
The American worker puts in more time on the job than any other worker in the world, except Koreans. And most American workers don’t take as much time off as they could.
This graph shows the consistent trend–
“One of the few bright spots in the current economy is fast productivity growth, which has increased 11.1% since the fourth quarter of 2001. Since economists consider productivity (i.e., output per hour worked) to be a key economic determinant of living standards, this fast pace would normally have positive implications for working families. Yet, as the figure below reveals, workers’ compensation has consistently lagged productivity growth over this period.”
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_snapshots_08182004
One would expect that as workers become more productive (they make the pie bigger), the slice of the pie they take home would also be bigger.
WRONG!
Since Reagan, productivity has skyrocketed and wages have remained flat or fallen throughout the period.
So where is the wealth going? Right to the top. Workers, without union representation, have no way to demand that the wealth they create, they should in part keep.
The people in power–the owners–keep it for themselves and let the vast majority of society be damned.
Why do you think they used to be called “robber barrons” back when people had a clue?
“That’s more than THREE TIMES THE RATE OF INFLATION from when I was in college.”
Liberal run college rips off college students and Capn blames Ronald Reagan.
What a life he must live.
BJ,
If you think this upcoming administration is going to give you anything you are just as confused as you have always been.
You are going to get nothing, maybe less as things get tougher.
When things toughen it isn’t the slugs like yourself that make out well, it’s those that have prepared. You never have.
Wonder what I was thinking when I typed ‘BF’?
*****
I wonder what you were thinking everytime you post, Bawks.
Night all.
And BJ, sleep well if you can knowing you will awaken the same miserable failure you seem to be from reading your posts.
“Their jobs will not survive unless the manufacturers can become profitable again and the UAW is a big reason that is not happening.”
Well, there you go again.
Blame labor.
Here’s the deal. Management negotiated those contracts to keep workers on the job making the company money.
Union benefits are NOT won out or the kindness of the employer’s heart but out of keeping the employees producing.
It is NOT the fault of labor if the product is not selling or competes in an unfair market.
That will do for a start.
Col. Harland Sanders:
“I made a resolve then that I was going to amount to something if I could. And no hours, nor amount of labor, nor amount of money would deter me from giving the best that there was in me. And I have done that ever since, and I win by it. I know.”
“If you think this upcoming administration is going to give you anything you are just as confused as you have always been.”
Wrong, Boxarocks.
Obama is going to reform healthcare so that everyone has reasonable access, with or without a company job.
Obama is going to start massive public works projects to get this country working again. The higher employment will put upward pressure on wages so a working man can make a better wage.
Obama is going to pro-actively deal with the high cost of college and technical school, so BlueJay’s son and everybody else’s child will have a better chance of attending higher ed.
Obama is going to require the wealth to bear a higher burden of the cost of government, as they should.
And that’s just for starters.
CapnAmerica
Posted December 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm | Permalink
Jim Johnson can mock it all he wants to, but hell yeah, I feel hope.
For the last eight years, we’ve been led by a guy who couldn’t get elected frat president.
Now we’ve got freaking Abraham Lincoln.
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NOW..I’M VERY PLEASED AND EXCITED TO INTRODUCE TO YOU TODAY….BARACK ABRAHAM LINCOLN OBAMA!
4 MORE YEARS OF WAR, 500,000 DEAD, AND THE GREATEST DEPRESSION KNOWN TO MAN.
(Sounds like George Bush!)
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Dittos, BlueJay.
They got nothing except personal insults, and their deep abiding faith–based on nothing but faith–in the Church of the Holy Market Place.
Pray to your god, Mammon, Boxlock.
After all, the bigger your bank account, the more your god loves you . . .
Yeah, another Abraham Lincoln is bound to bring Change and ANOTHER Civil War!
Yiiippppeeee!
“4 MORE YEARS OF WAR, 500,000 DEAD, AND THE GREATEST DEPRESSION KNOWN TO MAN.”
Cool. There’s one for the computer file.
I’m going to love trotting that out every chance I get in a couple of years . . .
I got to hand it to you, JimJohnson.
When it comes to puerile mockery, dude, you’re the king!
Reasoned argument?
Yeah, not so much . . .
What’s incredibly ignorant and foolish Capn, is for you to compare Obama to Lincoln, when Obama hasn’t DONE a damn thing in his entire life.
Your forecast for “Lincoln” Obama is what will be trotted out here down the road.
What exactly had Lincoln done before he became President?
LINCOLN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . OBAMA
1st Republican Pres . . . .1st Black Pres
Lawyer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Harvard Law
Illinois State Senator . . . . .Illinois State Senator
US Congressman . . . . . . . . . . US Senator
Obama unsuccessfully ran for US Congress before he won his Senate seat.
Lincoln unsuccessfully ran for Senate before he won the Presidency.
My God, their TWINS!
Reincarnated?
2nd Coming?
My God, their TWINS!
It’s they’re, Jeenyous.
Well off to do something more interesting . . . like watch re-runs of “Gilligan Island” on Nick at Night . . .
This type of regualation is once again long overdue. If bush had put it in place we would not be in the fiasco we’re in now.
I just hope that Obama will also drive on with a comprehensive energy plan. What would be good at this juncture, is if he and congress would impose an increase in gas tax to fund the programs. Who’d balk at an increase after paying a premium to the oil companies and to OPEC these last few years?
Obama vows strong new financial regulations
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President-elect Barack Obama said on Sunday he would put strong new financial regulation at the center of his economic recovery program to force more accountability on the banking industry.
Good news, Phantom.
Thanks for the post.
Last month alone half a million more people who lost their jobs will or no doubt have lost their medical insurance for themselves and their families. It’s going to get even uglier, because it’ll take a while for the impact of Obama/congress changes to take effect. But at least we’ll soon be switching tracks and not a collision course with that ominous light in the tunnel.
He said a little more about it, which can be seen here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081207/pl_nm/us_usa_obama_economy_1
Hell, I guess we’re no longer staring the light but are reeling from the impact, and starting to count bodies. Hope the train can be put back on the track.
Captain, I scroll over J.J., might try it sometimes. Makes scanning for inteligent discourse so much quicker.