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Open thread 12/24
- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted Dec. 24, 2008 at 5:03 a.m.
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Wichita EAGLE editorial staff: Your lead editorial, LIGHT OF THAT NIGHT, in this morning’s Christmas eve edition of the EAGLE was very inspiring. Interesting that it was originally presented in the EAGLE on Christmas Day in 1888 apparently written in wonderful prose by Col Marshall Murdoch, founder of the EAGLE.
It is a story of that very first Christmas now some 2,000 years ago.
Thanks Phillip Brownlee and Rhonda Holman, opinion editors of the EAGLE on this Christmas Eve morning of the year 2008.
Christmas didn’t exist until long after the death of Christ, most likely a living and insirational man, who by then had become fictionalized. The wonder of it is that it doesn’t even matter. What survived was the message. Jesus and Max Plank. Merry Christmas.
If you think of the great scientists of the 17th and the 18th century you would realize that they were prophets too. Their teachings have had as much affect on our lives as the teachings of Jesus. However, since priesthoods are not supported by their teachings, we don’t have Newtonday.
I wonder what the limit of the scientific method is?
Is: a placemarker for the unknown and unsayable.
TO KFG AND MY FELLOW BLOGGERS:
“I voted against the Kansas Defense of Marriage Act in support of KFG whom I considered a friend” (or something to that effect).
It would seem that the facts don’t support my statement and I offer my abject apology to KFG and my fellow bloggers for my statement. I can’t explain how I got this so wrong because this was honestly my recollection. I’m pretty befuddled by it myself. The only idea I can offer is that I must have confused the DOMA issue with some other of the many, many, many issues we have discussed over the years on these boards. There really was a time I considered KFG a friend and ally before her constant vile attacks against Christianity turned me against her. But that’s no excuse for a false statement and I humbly admit my error.
Over the years, I’ve tried to build a reputation on the blog as a man of honor and integrity. While I may fight like a junkyard dog to defend my position, my sense of honor and my Christian faith forbid lying to make a point. Many of you on both the left and the right have tangled with me at one time or other. While I can get down and dirty, I’ve always maintained my sense of honor and fair play. That same sense of honor demands that I admit when I’ve gotten it so dreadfully wrong. I do so here today.
I offer my oath before my God that my statement was truly my recollection and was not an attempt to mislead or delude anybody. I hope my reputation would support that, but I leave the judgment up to my fellow bloggers.
I goofed and I apologize.
Scientists warn Christmas lights harm the planet
By Graham Readfearn
December 24, 2008 08:06am
“SCIENTISTS have warned that Christmas lights are bad for the planet due to huge electricity waste and urged people to get energy efficient festive bulbs.
CSIRO researchers said householders should know that each bulb turned on in the name of Christmas will increase emissions of greenhouse gases.”
And well worth every single blub.
What a bunch of Grinchs.
Let’s see if we can’t pick cosmos out of the bunch…oh wait, I forgot, cosmos is isn’t a real scientist at all. But then neither are these guys.
Like so many Republicans, she was trying to construct a life that made sense from things she found in gift shops.
– Kurt Vonnegut
bbbaaaawwwwwwkkkk bawk bawk baaaaaaawwwwwwkkkkkk!
Merry Christmas cowardly CHICKEN boy!
I would imagine the days of regular Christmas lights are numbered. LEDs are way more efficient, can be produced in just about any conceivable color, and would save massive amounts of energy. I have no doubt the Republicans will fight this tooth and nail, as checking every bulb in a string of lights every year is a right of passage, plus fouling the planet is something every Republican strives for.
But being Christmas is hardly about the birth of Jesus Christ anymore, and more about the almighty shopping dollar, does it even matter?
I think we all do it XXX. I’m still baffled how I thought a major area newspaper in my area supported a certain candidate, and I was ranting and raving about it, and the editor told me that he had personally gone back through the endorsements and did NOT support that candidate. I still to this day could SWEAR I read that by them.
We’re all human, and our memories aren’t always the best.
Thanks PM. Old age sucks sometimes, heh, heh.
The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning
Commentary.
My confession:
I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees.. I don’t feel threatened. I don’t feel discriminated against. That’s what they are: Christmas trees.
It doesn’t bother me a bit when people say, ‘Merry Christmas’ to me. I don’t think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn’t bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu . If people want a cr�che, it’s just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.
I don’t like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don’t think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed a round, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can’t find it in the Constitution and I don’t like it being shoved down my throat.
Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren’t allowed to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that’s a sign that I’m getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.
In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it’s not funny, it’s intended to get you thinking.
Billy Graham’s daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her ‘How could God let something like this happen?’ (regarding Katrina) Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, ‘I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we’ve been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?’
In light of recent events… terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O’Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn’t want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn’t spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr Spock’s son committed suicide) . We said an expert should know what he’s talking about. And we said OK.
Now we’re asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don’t know right from wrong, and why it doesn’t bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.
Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with ‘WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.’
Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world’s going to hell Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send ‘jokes’ through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.
Are you laughing yet?
Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on
your address list because you’re not sure what they believe, or what they
will think of you for sending it.
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.
Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it… no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don’t sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.
My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,
Ben Stein
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Merry Christmas everyone.
Ben Stein, the Holocaust denier? Or Ben Stein, the guy with a B.A. degree in Economics who has never been employed as an economist but lists that as his job title?
Mr. Edison invented the light bulb, so why isn’t it Edisonmass?
Thanks for your apology XXX
“KFG before her constant vile attacks against Christianity turned me against her. ”
Not the poster child for the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund is she?
“Jesus Wept……”
blogmonitor
Posted December 24, 2008 at 8:47 am | Permalink
“KFG before her constant vile attacks against Christianity turned me against her. ”
Not the poster child for the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund is she?
“Jesus Wept……”
Regular (blog monitor)gives himself away.
Again.
Blaidd_Drwg69=CapnAmerica
Who is a blog monitor wannabe.
Yeah, I see how well making nice and going along to get along has worked for the lgbt community.
NOT AT ALL.
Keep doing the same things and expecting different results?
Might as well do something different. Like treating wingnuts the way they treat us.
Sorry Regular, you’ve got it all wrong.
I am not now, nor have I ever been CapnAmerica.
“Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund”
Out of state money for Raj = good
Out of state money for Inga = bad
Dont think folks wont be watching, from now on, how much out of state money your locals raise in their next elections.
Gail finney opened a can of worms that will likely come back to bite other democrats.
They can thank her later.
XXX,
I believe most of us bloggers will forgive you at least those who profess to be followers of Christ. More importantly, I am also confident that God forgives you because of your humbleness and willingness to admit your humanness. We on this blog are all human and subject to imperfections whether we acknowledge it or not.
Merry Christmas
Isn’t it interesting how the self professed “Christians” portray themselves as superior to others who choose a belief system that doesn’t match ther own?
Hypocrites
Blaidd_Drwg69, not only are you CapnAmerica but an idiot as well . All you have to do, is check with the editor of the WEBLOG on this. I am the official BlogMonitor.
Instead, 69er puts on his shiny armor and parades around as if on a white horse.
Regular is a poster all on his own just like you (ha-ha he-he ho-ho)
Check with the editor yourself about your theory that I am Capnamerica. You’ll just make a fool out of yourself, again.
I think YOU are the one who “puts on his shiny armor and parades around as if on a white horse.”
I just call you out.
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Maggotpunk
Posted December 24, 2008 at 8:30 am | Permalink
Ben Stein, the Holocaust denier? Or Ben Stein, the guy with a B.A. degree in Economics who has never been employed as an economist but lists that as his job title?
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Maggotpunk, the false rumor monger?
I hope God blesses you this Christmas season Punk in spite of yourself.
Well it is the XMAS season, and I have other blogs to monitor. It’s high time in the morning to turn the WEblog threads over to the gay routine for the day sequence of events.
Announcement of being gay by KFG
Turn every discussion into gay
Attack the Christians whom you alienate (for fun I guess)
Call posters names
Post Jesus Wept in comic relief
Cry for awhile poor me
Get others sympathy
Others attack to defend womanhood
Return to top of program
Do End
just call you out.
A child. Small one.
Email the editor stupid and stop wasting space.
Idiot.
“More importantly, I am also confident that God forgives you because of your humbleness and willingness to admit your humanness.”
I guess that means bigotbawks will not be forgive since he fails to repent of his lies?
heheheheheeheeehehehhehehehehhee!
donndublin
Posted December 24, 2008 at 9:10 am | Permalink
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Maggotpunk
Posted December 24, 2008 at 8:30 am | Permalink
Ben Stein, the Holocaust denier? Or Ben Stein, the guy with a B.A. degree in Economics who has never been employed as an economist but lists that as his job title?
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Maggotpunk, the false rumor monger?
I hope God blesses you this Christmas season Punk in spite of yourself.
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How exactly is MP a “false rumor monger”?
It seems calling out a Republican is the same as “false rumor monger”-ing. LOL
“Maggotpunk, the false rumor monger?”
donndublin, it’s a shame I don’t feel like educating the habitually ignorant today.
And once again, like yesterday and the day before and the day before, I am NOT the one who brought up “the gay”.
But phcuk you and the horse you rode in on if you think I’m going to shy away from the subject.
Blow for blow. Dont like it? Too bad.
Scroll up dumbo and take a look. Same as yesterday’s open and Monday’s open, I’M not the one who started it.
But I’ll damn sure finish it.
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donndublin
Posted December 24, 2008 at 8:59 am | Permalink
XXX,
I believe most of us bloggers will forgive you at least those who profess to be followers of Christ. More importantly, I am also confident that God forgives you because of your humbleness and willingness to admit your humanness. We on this blog are all human and subject to imperfections whether we acknowledge it or not.
Merry Christmas
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And a most Merry Christmas to you!
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Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted December 24, 2008 at 9:02 am | Permalink
Isn’t it interesting how the self professed “Christians” portray themselves as superior to others who choose a belief system that doesn’t match ther own?
Hypocrites
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I can’t say other self professed “Christians” portray themselves. All I can say is that others who choose a belief system that doesn’t match mine are not superior to the One I profess to believe in. If that’s hypocrisy, then so be it.
You are a hypocrite donndublin.
Hee hee heeeee.
So now dd is comparing himself to the ONE?
I think that’s what BD meant….
State fiscal experts say the stage could be set for a wave of rises in state sales and personal-income taxes more widespread than any since the early 1990s.
“My view is that cuts will become significant and touch enough people that tax increases will be more viable than they have been in the past,” says Scott Pattison, executive director of the National Association of State Budget Officers in Washington.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123007128576831281.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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Well, there’s just what we need. More taxes at a time when we’re starting to hurt. People are losing their jobs, facing wage cuts, or no raises, and government wants to stick their hand deeper into our pockets.
Thanks for having my back ksfarmgrrl.
It seems some are so blinded by hate they don’t see how they really are.
When the cross over from worshiping their god to believing they ARE god, how do you expect them to see themselves?
AS god, of course!
He professes rather than believes. How typical.
Dear XXX,
When it comes to politics I think you are a misguided ignorant turd.
I kinda like ya though. I think you’re an honest, and honorable man.
Thanks for your comments. Thanks for your service to our country. No apology necessary.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Hank
HLP
Posted December 24, 2008 at 9:40 am | Permalink
Dear XXX,
When it comes to politics I think you are a misguided ignorant turd.
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Now, THAT is what I call a Christian Man!
Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted December 24, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink
“Ben Stein, the Holocaust denier?”
How exactly is MP a “false rumor monger”?
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If Stein is a “Hololcaust denier”, then why did he sign the David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies petition?
http://www.wymaninstitute.org/press/2005-04-04.php
rumormonger – a person given to gossiping and divulging personal information about others.
“it’s a shame I don’t feel like educating the habitually ignorant today.”
Here’s some education for the habitually ignorant today.
“If Stein is a “Hololcaust denier”, then why did he sign the David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies petition?”
Not familiar with the mockumentary Expelled are you?
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 24, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink
So now dd is comparing himself to the ONE?
I think that’s what BD meant….
When the(y) cross over from worshiping their god to believing they ARE god, how do you expect them to see themselves?
AS god, of course!
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beber
Posted December 24, 2008 at 9:38 am | Permalink
He professes rather than believes. How typical.
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Beber,
You are so ignorant! No wonder you’re a pagan.
Profess: To affirm belief in;To receive into a religious order or congregation.
Of course we compare ourselves to Jesus. That’s why we profess AND believe in Him. That’s not the same as claiming to be Jesus.
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Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted December 24, 2008 at 9:35 am | Permalink
Thanks for having my back ksfarmgrrl.
It seems some are so blinded by hate they don’t see how they really are.
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You couldn’t have described Paganism more accurately.
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HLP
Posted December 24, 2008 at 9:40 am | Permalink
Dear XXX,
When it comes to politics I think you are a misguided ignorant turd.
I kinda like ya though. I think you’re an honest, and honorable man.
Thanks for your comments. Thanks for your service to our country. No apology necessary.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Hank
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Hank my friend, you’re incorrigible. The feeling is mutual I assure you. I also thank you and your son for your service to our country.
A most heartfelt Merry Christmas to you and your family.
“Not familiar with the mockumentary”
Is that because it’s not just a rumor?
Merry Christmas to all, may your Christmas lights shine brightly, I know mine will.
Green crazies down in Australia spreading the Grinch. I know this was mentioned, but here is the link for the article. If you breathe you emitt.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24839835-23272,00.html
Some smokin’ movies are opening tomorrow at the 13th Avenue Warren – and this chick’s gonna see two of ‘em.
But I can’t decide which two to see: I wanna see “Marley and Me”, “Valkyrie” and “Doubt.” All of these films offer very important messages: The first one supports my lifelong love of animals. I’ve seen trailers for this film, and I just fell in love with Marley. He’s just so cute. And evidently he’s so-o-o-o-o bad. But he’s adorable all the same.
But I also want to see Tom Cruise’s film – a true story about one man’s noble (and ultimately fatal) mission to rid the world of Hitler. The film’s not garnering stellar reviews, but what the heck? If I always allowed the critics to dictate my viewing choices, I’d still be snoozing through “Gorky Park” in 1983 and “The English Patient” a decade later.
Last but not least, I want to see “Doubt”. Meryl Streep and Philip Seymour Hoffman (both prior Oscar winners) play a Catholic nun and priest, respectively. Streep’s traditionalist sister suspects Hoffman’s progressive priest of improper behavior with an adolescent. But the story and the ending evidently aren’t crystal clear – hence the movie’s title.
Oh, so many films – and so little time (and money).
I’m probably going to have to see “Doubt” – because it resonates with this ex-Catholic. There were days of yore when one’s unconditional love of (and faith in) one’s church (and its heirarchy) could sustain one through inevitable doubts, questions and difficulties.
But this kind of “difficulty” is something else again. The abuse of children – and the damnable behavior of ex-Cardinal Law and his ilk – enacted a severe toll on me and many others, I’m afraid. Already questioning who God is and how he influences the Church, this dealt a catastrophic blow to many – both current Catholics and lapsed individuals like myself.
I’m probably gonna have to see this film. So now, I’ve gotta choose between Cruise’s latest effort and one of the cutest little pups who ever drew a breath (and chew-toy). I just love animals so very much. It’s one love that hasn’t induced disillusion through the decades.
And you sure can’t put a price on that.
emitt = virtual baseball glove.
Hank, ditto what XXX said:-)
FilmFan, Read “Marley and Me,” instead of seeing the movie. I did both and highly recommend the book.
“Over the years, I’ve tried to build a reputation on the blog as a man of honor and integrity. While I may fight like a junkyard dog to defend my position, my sense of honor and my Christian faith forbid lying to make a point. Many of you on both the left and the right have tangled with me at one time or other. While I can get down and dirty, I’ve always maintained my sense of honor and fair play.”
I read much deep sentiment in these words. I believe it to be genuine and never had any serious concerns otherwise.
There’s something about Tom Cruise playing a heroic, tragically doomed, one-eyed Nazi colonel that makes me wanna roll my eyes. I don’t think I want to pay $10 to rent a public seat where I continuously roll my eyes or fight the impulse to cough “bullshit” into my hand for two hours. Believe I’ll pass on this one.
I’m sure that thanks to Cruise’s still large, if dwindling, star power HBO will bite next spring or summer. They always do.
‘Course, I’m not exactly Roger Ebert. I’ll spend part of tonight watching Le Pacte des Loups (The Brotherhood of the Wolf) in my tv room. It’s based on a Marseilles-area 18th-century folk tale about a werewolf loose in the countryside. I’ve seen it before, but it just ain’t all that often one gets to see Vincent Cassal and Monica Bellucci in a gorgeous kung-fu werewolf movie that looks a lot like Michael Mann’s Last of the Mohicans. The scene where Mark Dacascos’s Mani takes on a crazy gang of French peasants alone in a pouring rainstorm is worth the price of admission alone. It’s truly a special film (it’s also French, and dubbed).
Madoff’s responsible for at least one death, hope he spends the remainder of his life doing hard time, and not at one of those Martha Stewart homes for bad girls.
Al Gore: “Science Will Not Intrude On Public Policy”
http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/princeton_physicist_calls_global_warming_science/
Cos,
Do you see why there are skeptics?
Al Gore: “Science Will Not Intrude On Public Policy”
A ghost from Christmas past:
kansas
Posted December 21, 2007 at 8:56 am | Permalink
ken,
I worked at a gas station when I was sixteen years old on Christmas day.
We were off the beaten path and away from the Interstate. I don’t know how, but it seemed like every car from miles around came to the gas station I worked at.
I had three lanes of cars, five deep and it seem to me all of the customers wanted to use credit cards which slowed things down. You know, that old fashion credit card swiper with carbon paper and everything had to be filled out by hand.
That was the day of full service. Which meant all windows had to be washed, tires checked and if the customer wanted, oil and transmission fluids checked.
Needless to say, after a very long ten hours at the gas station with zero breaks, I was exhausted and almost frozen to the core.
I got home early morning on December 26th about 2 a.m. I did what one could expect, I slept.
My mom made me some french toast when I woke up and I could see the holiday lights still glowing from the previous night.
My father came to me and saw that I was still a bit frazzled and spoke to me. He said, you know I bet you are tired, but I bet those people traveling on Christmas Day were relieved that gas station was opened and you were there.
I felt better after my father talked to me and the French toast made my stomach mellow.
I put band aids on my hands where I had busted some knuckles fixing a few flats on Christmas day in addition to all of the other services I had performed.
One of the flats I had fixed was for a stately looking gentleman. He had forgotten his checkbook and wallet, so I fixed it for him free of charge.
My boss saw me a few days later and said he had gotten a phone call. It was from the Lt. Governors office and he was thanking him for the fine service he received on the frozen Christmas night.
I feel better about that night after some reflection and chalked the harsh conditions up to experience that someone has to do these jobs. I did, and am the better for it.
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What’s disappointing is that it appears that the large number of posts from J R and the Capn ridiculing this post were deleted. I’m telling ya, I laughed until I cried reading those responses.
The other big laugh was that I printed this off, showed it to my wife last year and she wondered if it was one of those reader submitted stories to Reader’s Digest where they pay you $10.00 for your trouble. I explained that I did not think it quite rose to that level of artistry. LOL…
Please excuse my “re-gifting” – some are too priceless to not use again. Merry Christmas.
Now here’s a tax we should look at. No wait,it’s a dilemma. Wouldn’t the smoke add to GHGs? lol
http://www.esquire.com/the-side/richardson-report/obama-marijuana-legalization-122308
donndublin posted December 24, 2008 at 11:47 am
Do you see why there are skeptics?
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What I see is that you AGW deniers are so brain-dead stupid, you cannot understand that “views” do NOT equal science.
The Reason for the Season –
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=36533
“What I see is that you AGW deniers are so brain-dead stupid, you cannot understand that “views” do NOT equal science.”
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Exactly Cos, All you have are views.
Monkey,
Why do you imitate the haters you hate?
Le Pacte des Loups (The Brotherhood of the Wolf) is one of my favorite movies. I believe it’s the only movie our resident Iron Chef America host really had to act in, and did a credible job. The ambiance was amazing. I watch it at least once a year. One of the few American movies that comes close to it is, believe it or not, IMHO, Reign of fire.
donndublin posted December 24, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Exactly Cos, All you have are views.
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No, I’ve got solid science, which you AGW deniers cannot refute.
You have no science. You have ignorance, stupid claims, lies, and ad hominems.
On this day 44 years ago, dressed in my Class A uniform, I was wandering around the barracks in Frankfurt, waiting for evening to come so Lt. Mark Powe would come and pick me up, take me to his and his wife’s quarters where he and two other lieutenants whose names it pains me to say I don’t remember gave me a going-away party.
They feted me, then drove me to the Frankfurt Hopbahnoff (train station). There I was, a SP4 with a lieutenant carrying my duffel bag. Of course, we were all about the same age as I had dropped out of college to enlist. He offered to buy me a bottle of booze, but I declined, thinking I don’t want an MP to kick me off the train because I WAS ON MY WAY HOME!!!
Turns out, I was about the only one on the train who didn’t have a bottle, including the MPs. But everybody was generous and soon I was a plowed as the rest of them as we sped through the night toward the port of Bremerhaven where the next morning, Christmas Day, they loaded us onto the U.S.S. Gen. Alexander Patch to take us to New York.
Best Christmas present I ever got.
Merry Christmas all.
Dennis
You know Steven Davis, I always knew you were a mean-spirited and black-hearted person.
You just proved it by re-posting the story I wrote in good faith and with absolute truthfulness.
I don’t know what is so hard to believe about the story I wrote about. Just a kid in small town that had a memorable Christmas.
Nevertheless, enjoy your holidays, I know I will.
Oops, sorry I mislead you. The J R and Capn posts are still available and were not deleted. An example:
CapnAmerica
Posted December 21, 2007 at 11:04 am | Permalink
There’s also the Christmas that I saved a family of missionaries and their prize beagles from carbon monoxide poisoning.
Turned out their furnace was malfunctioning and I was bringing a food basket when I noticed . . .
BUT, I think I’ll save that for another time.
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Those cynical comments are still funny, but then I have a weird sense of humor.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/12/open-thread-18/#comments
I believed for nearly 4 years that John Kerry actually won Florida.
The post and the comments after, Regular, just reminded me of the first law of being a responsible consumer:
1. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably isn’t true.
J R and the Capn’s skepticism was very funny. At the time, more than one poster criticized them for being so cynical around Christmas.
Sorry, but I don’t apologize for appreciating a few laughs. Not surprised that you would be against humor, though.
Please, enjoy your Christmas. And, if you have any more stories of Yultide heroism, you will share them I hope!
Well friends, it’s Christmas Eve. Mrs XXX will be home soon and then we’re on the road to spend Christmas with family.
I give you all my best and wish you all a very Merry Christmas. May your holiday bring you hope and happiness. We don’t know what will happen between now and next Christmas, so make this one count.
Merry Christmas all!
A particulary memorable exchange from Christmas past:
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J M Walker
Posted December 25, 2005 at 9:23 am | Permalink
writerdog,I couldn’t agree more. This place is a haven for those who aren’t afraid to make their opinions known (Ya, even you Ed).
So, here’s a very Merry Christmas to all of you, and may the new year bring forth many interesting and intelligent battles!
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Ed Friedemann
Posted December 25, 2005 at 9:56 am | Permalink
Merry Christmas to everyone except Walker.
And to you Walker, A very Merry Christmas.
{ See there, I fooled ya }
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http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/merry_christmas/#comment-15056
Regular
Posted December 24, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink
“You just proved it by re-posting the story I wrote in good faith and with absolute truthfulness.”
It must have been pretty hard to WASH all those windows on “that FROZEN Christmas night”!!!!
NOW you know why we call him….
Regu LIAR.
Another of Reguliar’s LIES was adding a false, fictional last paragraph to his copy/paste post, to falsely blame the Sierra Club for the New Orleans levee failures.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232
And Reguliar changed his TypeKey registration to J M Walker’s nic.
In my opinion here is another stupid green trick that someone has figured out a way to make a buck on carbon credits and emissions. This is on the left coast.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/24/MNIR14PSQF.DTL&type=green
Libs in true Christmas tradition attack others without provocation.
Must be sad to be rotting in the heart like the Lib posters on this blog.
Regular – did you do the things Cosmos alleges?
Yes bth I did, as a joke. Even admitted it and didn’t change my login browser where it was linked.
I did apologize for it. Walker thinks it’s no big deal, only cosmos brings it up after 2 years over and over.
I know what is said about people that don’t accept apologies or can’t take a good ribbing.
As I said, Walker doesn’t care anymore, why should anyone else?
Unless you want a reason just to be mean.
And, I received a ban for it. What else do you want?
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cosmos_originally
Posted December 24, 2008 at 1:11 pm | Permalink
donndublin posted December 24, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Exactly Cos, All you have are views.
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No, I’ve got solid science, which you AGW deniers cannot refute.
You have no science. You have ignorance, stupid claims, lies, and ad hominems.
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You have no solid science to prove man should drastically change his lifestyle or standard of living to save the planet. Proving that CO2 is increasing in the atmosphere and that the earth is warming does not prove that man is responsible nor does it prove that it will continue to warm as the computer models predict.
Your belief that computer models are infallible and that the IPCC is the ultimate authority is only anecdotal evidence at best. That’s the reason the skeptics are continuing to speak out and grow in number. Personal attacks, scientific censorship, along with “ignorance, stupid claims, lies, and ad homonyms” against those who disagree further discredits the AWG theory.
I challenge you to present EMPIRICAL evidence for AWG. You have till Monday to present it because I won’t be back till then. Since the AGW crowd wants to force their policies on the world, it’s their responsibility to prove it. It’s not the skeptic’s responsibility.
“Libs in true Christmas tradition attack others without provocation.
Must be sad to be rotting in the heart like the Lib posters on this blog.”
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Every liberal poster did all that?
I thought I has some memory left, but they say it’s first to go!
fair enough lindainks,
Not all Libs are deliberately mean all the time like the usual crowd of Davis, Junior, CapnAmerica and etc. (along with their many nics)
See, I’ve forgotten where the ’s’ and ‘d’ keys are too. I tell you, maybe I need a keeper?
Hope everyone has someone to care about and someone who cares deeply about you. Merry Christmas!
Will be leaving this computer fairly soon – everyone have a Merry Christmas – especially those with young children!
bth osted December 24, 2008 at 3:59 pm | Permalink
Regular – did you do the things Cosmos alleges?
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Reguliar falsely insisted that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees — and added a false, fictional paragraph to a copy/paste post to TRY to prove(sic) it.
“I goofed and I apologize.”
To err is human. To admit it, nearly divine.
Regular is proving another rule:
1. When you are the butt of your own joke, the more serious you act, the funnier you are.
Please, stop, you’re killing me! ;-)
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cosmos_originally
Posted December 24, 2008 at 4:20 pm | Permalink
bth osted December 24, 2008 at 3:59 pm | Permalink
Regular – did you do the things Cosmos alleges?
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Reguliar falsely insisted that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees — and added a false, fictional paragraph to a copy/paste post to TRY to prove(sic) it.
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Actually, I didn’t falsely accuse anyone of anything.
It was a cut and paste from Web pages verbatim.
Regular posted December 24, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Actually, I didn’t falsely accuse anyone of anything.
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Then prove it, by posting the links to your “Congressional Record” and “Justice Department reports”.
Republican posted May 26, 2007 at 12:34 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f/#comment-239958
Look in the Congressional Record cosmos, not the Sierra Club. And look at Justice Department reports.
You will find that the Army Corp(sic) of Engineers had to delay projects and subsequently lost the funding for those projects for those Fiscal years.
The truth hurts when told, the Sierra Club screwed the Levees in New Orleans.
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Reguliar posted
“It was a cut and paste from Web pages verbatim.”
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Post your link for the last paragraph in your copy/paste.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232
“As a result of the 1997(sic) lawsuit, the Army Corp(sic) of Engineer. . “
Global Warming Rope-a-Dope
Walter E. Williams
Wednesday, December 24, 2008
Americans have been rope-a-doped into believing that global warming is going to destroy our planet. Scientists who have been skeptical about manmade global warming have been called traitors or handmaidens of big oil. The Washington Post asserted on May 28, 2006 that there were only “a handful of skeptics” of manmade climate fears. Bill Blakemore on Aug. 30, 2006 said, “After extensive searches, ABC News has found no such (scientific) debate on global warming.” U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change Executive Secretary Yvo de Boer said it was “criminally irresponsible” to ignore the urgency of global warming. U.N. special climate envoy Dr. Gro Harlem Brundtland on May 10, 2007 declared the climate debate “over” and added “it’s completely immoral, even, to question” the U.N.’s scientific “consensus.” In July 23, 2007, CNN’s Miles O’Brien said, “The scientific debate is over.” Earlier he said that scientific skeptics of manmade catastrophic global warming “are bought and paid for by the fossil fuel industry, usually.”
The global warming scare has provided a field day for politicians and others who wish to control our lives. After all, only the imagination limits the kind of laws and restrictions that can be written in the name of saving the planet. Recently, more and more scientists are summoning up the courage to speak out and present evidence against the global warming rope-a-dope. Atmospheric scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said, “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.”
Dr. Goldenberg has the company of at least 650 noted scientists documented in the recently released U.S. Senate Minority Report: “More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims: Scientists Continue to Debunk ‘Consensus’ in 2008.” The scientists, not environmental activists, include Ivar Giaever, Nobel Laureate in physics, who said, “I am a skeptic … Global warming has become a new religion.” Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an environmental physical chemist, said warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history … When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” “So far, real measurements give no ground for concern about a catastrophic future warming,” said Dr. Jarl R. Ahlbeck, a chemical engineer at Abo Akademi University in Finland , author of 200 scientific publications and former Greenpeace member. Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh , said, “Many (scientists) are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.”
The fact of the matter is an increasing amount of climate research suggests a possibility of global cooling. Geologist Dr. Don J. Easterbrook, Emeritus Professor at Western Washington University says, “Recent solar changes suggest that it could be fairly severe, perhaps more like the 1880 to 1915 cool cycle than the more moderate 1945-1977 cool cycle. A more drastic cooling, similar to that during the Dalton and Maunder minimums, could plunge the Earth into another Little Ice Age, but only time will tell if that is likely.” Geologist Dr. David Gee, chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress, currently at Uppsala University in Sweden asks, “For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?”
That’s a vital question for Americans to ask. Once laws are written, they are very difficult, if not impossible, to repeal. If a time would ever come when the permafrost returns to northern U.S., as far south as New Jersey as it once did, it’s not inconceivable that Congress, caught in the grip of the global warming zealots, would keep all the laws on the books they wrote in the name of fighting global warming. Personally, I would not put it past them to write more.
“I voted against the Kansas Defense of Marriage Act in support of KFG whom I considered a friend” (or something to that effect).
It would seem that the facts don’t support my statement”
XXX, that perfectly okay….you voted the right way if you voted for the KS Defense of Marriage Act! You did just fine!
Much better to have forgotten than to have voted the wrong way.
Bawks posted December 24, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Dr. Goldenberg has the company of at least 650 noted scientists documented in the recently released U.S. Senate Minority Report:
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LOL!
Bawks, science is NOT done by making lists of people who have opinions, but NO science to support those opinions.
‘Inhofe recycles long-debunked denier talking points — will the media be fooled (again)?‘
http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/11/inhofe-morano-recycles-long-debunked-denier-talking-points-will-the-media-be-fooled-again/
Clean coal? Not in Tennessee.
Tennessee sludge spill runs over homes, water
Excerpt:
TVA spokesman Gil Francis told CNN that up to 400 acres of land had been coated by the sludge, a bigger area than the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill.
Video footage showed sludge as high as 6 feet, burying porches and garage doors. The slide also downed nearby power lines, though the TVA said power had been restored to the area.
Francis said Environmental Protection Agency officials were on the scene and estimated the cleanup could take four to six weeks.
Some of the goop spilled into the tributary, but preliminary water quality tests show that the drinking water at a nearby treatment plant meets standards.
“I don’t want to drink it. It doesn’t look healthy to me,” Jody Miles, who fishes in the Clinch River, told CNN affiliate WBIR. “Do you reckon they can bring all this life back that’s going to die from all this mess?”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/23/tennessee.sludge.spill/?iref=mpstoryview
Shut up cosmos, no one even cares.
Ok, I’m going to open a can of worms here: would somebody tell me how Jim marrying Bob destroys my marriage.
If you really want to see marriage defended, why not go for legislation to outlaw adultry, abuse, and abandonment. That seems to me to make more sense than telling a small percentage of our population that they can’t marry because it would destroy heterosexual marriage.
By the way, my husband & I will be having our 47th anniversary come New Year’s Eve. As far as I can tell, the SS marriages that have happend in some states has not destroyed my marriage. How about yours?
Ben Stein is many things (he is a brilliant guy), and many of them are contemptable (his defenses of Richard Nixon go beyond the pale-he has hinted that the late Mark Felt, Deepthroat, was responsible for the Khmer Rouge genocide by helping to bring down Nixon, which requires an amount of gall that is just incredible), but he is not a Holocaust Denier.
Indeed, he has slimed people who work in evolutionary fields by claiming that they promote the sort of beliefs that led to the Holocaust. And he is anti-science to the point that he has compromised his integrity (then again, he already had). Ben Stein’s argument comes down to never mind reality, people should believe right thoughts regardless of whether they are true (and such an ideology, by the way, had a lot more to do with the Holocaust than evolutionary science).
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=six-things-ben-stein-doesnt-want-you-to-know&sc=rss
He is an ass, but he is not a Holocaust Denier.
Oh, and this…
“Shut up cosmos, no one even cares.”
Re: Regular
DNFTT
Regular posted December 24, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Shut up cosmos, no one even cares.
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So Reguliar. . . you don’t have the links?
And it’s odd how both you AND your anonymous web page source misspelled the “Army Corp(sic) of Engineers”.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/open-thread-1224/#comment-491226
cosmos, you do know you are just giving him what he wants, don’t you?
cosmos is weak and easily led around by the nose.
What he thinks is his strength is his weakness.
DANCE PUPPET DANCE!
Agnatha,
Yes.
But I was also making the point that Regular (aka Reguliar), represents his current family, his Kansas ancestors, and “Kansas values”, by being a liar.
FESTIVUS in Illinois State Capitol:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-festivus-thudec25,0,4855828.story
“Dan Zanoza, chairman of the Springfield Nativity Scene Committee, said the state’s decision to allow the pole was “unfortunate.”"
I think this explains it all:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/cheese
Merry Heistmas!
Happy Festivus, Seinfeld, et al!!!
Yeah you should had seen the whole Faux news team up in arms because the commentator had to explain to her children why some other people had beliefs different from theirs…to THINK someone else had the GALL to intrude on their GOVERNMENT sponsored holiday…..
JE, happy anniversary! That’s wonderful! What a happy life.
Peace and goodwill this evening to you all.
“Dan Zanoza, chairman of the Springfield Nativity Scene Committee, said the state’s decision to allow the pole was “unfortunate.””
Hahahah! Translation: “Bah! Humbug!”
cosmos,
I sincerely hope this coming New Year gives you something worthwhile to do beside being a ‘Chicken Little’ about AGW.
You have the necessary motivation and drive to do something worthwhile, but it is so miss directed now. Try to find something that will help other people and yourself, and drop the hysteria you seem so bent on promoting.
You are the LAST person to be giving anyone advice there bawks.
Not quite BlueJay….I can give you good advice all day long, as you have proven yourself to be not only childishly immature, but gullible and easily fooled and taken to the cleaners at my will.
Let’s hope the New Year finds you more reasoning and less impulsive in your actions and overly verbose impetuousness.
Nah
I plan to keep handing you your ass bawks.
More fun is my kid is into it now too.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
AND GOD BLESS US EVERY ONE!!!
SO MOTE IT BE!!!
“But I was also making the point that Regular (aka Reguliar), represents his current family, his Kansas ancestors, and ‘Kansas values’, by being a liar.”
And his “point” is that he wants you to waste time pointing it out. Your responses are like Troll Soup for Christmas.
That being said: cosmos, you are one of the most on point posters on this blog.
Thanks for your accurate representation of mainstream science in the face of modern Rosanne Rosanna Dannas who so frequently resort to ad hominems with you.
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