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Ice Sports at Maple and McLain just west of the Arkansas River put on a beautiful Ice Show yesterday evening. It will be repeated tonight (Saturday) @ 7:30 PM. Tickets about $5 or $6, with a dollar off for youth and seniors, as I recall.
Local skaters, generally young people but also a smattering of adult skaters. Christmas music. Colored lights splashing on the presentation. Wonderful choreography, all wonderfully supervised by Ice Sports manager, Brenda Glidewell.
Way to go Brenda and your enthusiastic ice skaters.
Good to see Ice Sports being used for a good purpose!! Way to go, Brenda!!
Just four days until Christmas Eve…
Have you discovered the Reason for the Season??
Hint: It’s not $ea$on$ Greeting$!! LOL
The reason for the season is to help speed up our environmental destruction through hyper-consumerism.
Correct?
Think of all the poor tykes without Ipods and Wii’s!
Sad ain’t it?
I even know one teenager who ain’t got a laptop.
This is a real depression huh?
Things are suddenly looking up for Al Franken – for now, at least.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/20/politics/main4679466.shtml
I forgot ice sports in the thread the other day about getting Wichitan’s excited about Wichita or whatever it was called.
Ice Sports is a top notch facility for hockey and figure skating or even just recreational skating. Two sheets of ice (one NHL, one Olympic). Doesn’t get much better than that.
A view from another’s POV:
I AM NOT AN INSURGENT.
Suddenly the entire family is awakening to the sound of the door being knocked in. The men rush in, they are wearing armor from head to toe. They point their automatic weapons at my family as we come out of the bedrooms. They carry hand grenades and shout only a few words we can understand it is just enough to tell us to get on the floor. We do so because to not will mean they will open fire on my wife, three children and myself. My wife and children are crying and wailing out of fear and I am force into the other room where I have my hands tied behind my back and a hood put over my head. All because I am a man and above a certain age. The age that is thought to be that of an Insurgent, but I am not an Insurgent!
As I set in the hood induced darkness I can hear my family still in the other room. Their sobs and wailing brings me to anger. We have done nothing to deserve this treatment other than to live where we live. I am not an Insurgent, I do not know whom is. But this is the second time in the last month that my door has been damaged and my family frightened to hysteria. I guess that if I was claimer I could excuse it as these are the “good guys” and they are simply trying to find the “bad guys”. But I am not a bad guy so this makes me feel helpless to protect the crying woman and children in the other room. I am the man and it is my duty to protect them. But this makes me feel less a man and a failure as a husband and father.
*******
I had been glad the Americans came, Saddam was a mad man and he should be gone. We should have forced him out long ago. But as long as you followed certain rules you could live a quiet life. Do not speak out, do not look the wrong way at the authorities and basically do not cause trouble. I hated the other “foreign invaders”. This is our country not Al-Qaeda or Saudis they have no fight here and do not belong anymore than the Americans. I do not find it in my heart to hate the Insurgency, they are fighting to expel the foreign invaders and are Patriots to Iraq. Fighting for their country and I wish at times I had the strength to do the same. But I do not, I simply want to survive and enjoy my life with my wife and children.
So I continue to live as I did under Saddam, keep quiet and do not look the wrong way at the Americans.
Go to work and try not to be killed on the way to work or the way home. The only differences between before and after is now I only have water about half the day. And it is so miserable as the power is only on for a few hours a day. I am Shiite and the secular violence does bother me as I have no ill will against the Sunnis. I do fear them though, as it is a concern that my neighborhood will be a target. But left to our own we should work it out.
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But this is wrong what is happening to my family! I am not an Insurgent and the Americans are treating me worst then Saddam did. It makes me think that the Insurgents are more my friend than the Americans are. They have not entered my home in the middle of the night. Never broke down my door and frightened my wife and children. But once again I am setting on the floor with a bag over my head and listening to my wife and children crying. The last time it was a week before the children stopped waking up in the night crying out in fear. It took a week before the night passed without my wife suddenly shaking me awake at every sound.
It was a week before I could have a restful sleep! Once again it has started over and this time is no easier then the first.
The first time I wished I did know who the Insurgents were so I could tell the Americans and they would leave me in peace. But this time I am angrier then frightened, I am the man and this is happening to my wife and children! If they had cause to believe I am an Insurgent than this would be excusable. But this is random they go from house to house. Knocking down doors and terrifying women, children and honest men. In the blind hope that they come across someone or something that is Insurgent. Is this how it is done in the United States? Is this what the Americans want to bring to my country? How is this any different than living under Saddam?
We can speak out we are told, but is it listen to? Is this the price we pay for a purple finger in the air!
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I looked out the window this afternoon and saw two men digging a hole beside the main street that the Americans come down. They place an object in the hole and covered the spot with a car with the hood up.
I knew they were Insurgents and what they intended to do. I watched them till finally they disappear into an alleyway. Not long ago I would have thought them wrong and rush to report it. But today the memory of that night a few days ago comes rushing into my head. Afterwards I feel some guilty at the first thought after that. The first thought was I hoped it could kill all the Americans! That saddened me I wish they would simply go back to their own country. So now I turn away from the window and perhaps now I am turning into an Insurgent.
Interesting writerdog,
Truth is, you’ve got it just backwards. You’re ‘non-insurgent’, like 99% of all the other members of the ‘religion of peace’ stands back and does nothing as a very few radicals perform acts of terror.
Our military showed great restraint in Iraq. If I had been in charge I would have leveled every building in sight of an IED explosion. I would have stood at the point of the explosion and noted every window in sight. Then those buildings would have been destroyed.
They are not ‘insurgents’. They are cowardly terrorists assholes that hide behind their own women and children.
Yeah Hank,
They should be glad us old ‘war dogs’ weren’t around in Iraq. There would have been a repeat of ‘pillars of salt’ a thousand times over to rid Iraq of the IED vermin.
Flawed Science Advice for Obama?
Does being spectacularly wrong about a major issue in your field of expertise hurt your chances of becoming the presidential science advisor? Apparently not, judging by reports from DotEarth and ScienceInsider that Barack Obama will name John P. Holdren as his science advisor on Saturday.
Dr. Holdren, now a physicist at Harvard, was one of the experts in natural resources whom Paul Ehrlich enlisted in his famous bet against the economist Julian Simon during20the “energy crisis of the 1980s. Dr. Simon, who disagreed with environmentalists’ predictions of a new “age of scarcity” of natural resources, offered to bet that any natural resource would be cheaper at any date in the future. Dr. Ehrlich accepted the challenge and asked Dr. Holdren, then the co-director of the graduate program in energy and resources at the University of California, Berkeley, and another Berkeley professor, John Harte, for help in choosing which resources would become scarce.
In 1980 Dr. Holdren helped select five metals – chrome, copper, nickel, tin and tungsten – and joined Dr. Ehrlich and Dr. Harte in betting $1,000 that those metals would be more expensive ten years later. They turned out to be wrong on all five metals, and had to pay up when the bet came due in 1990.
Now, you could argue that anyone’s entitled to a mistake, and that mistakes can be valuable if people learn to become open to ideas that conflict with their preconceptions and ideology. That could be a useful skill in an advisor who’s supposed to be presenting the president with a wide range of views. Someone who’d seen how wrong environmentalists had been in ridiculing Dr. Simon’s predictions could, in theory, become more open to dissenting from today’s environmentalist orthodoxy. But I haven’t seen much evidence of such open-mindedness in Dr. Holdren.
Consider what happened when a successor to Dr. Simon, Bjorn Lomborg, published “The Skeptical Environmentalist” in 2001. Dr. Holdren joined in an an extraordinary attack on the book in Scientific American – an attack that I thought did far more harm to the magazine’s reputation than to Dr. Lomborg’s. The Economist called the critique “strong on contempt and sneering, but weak on substance”; Dr. Lomborg’s defenders said the critics made more mistakes in 11 pages than they were able to find in his 540-page book. (You can read Dr. Lomborg’s rebuttal here.) In an earlier post, I wrote about Dr. Holdren’s critique of the chapter on energy, in which Dr. Lomborg reviewed the history of energy scares and predicted there would not be dire shortages in the future:
Dr. Holdren began his critique by complaining that Dr. Lomborg was “asking the wrong question” because environmentalists had known for decades that there was no danger of energy being in short supply. This struck me as an odd bit of revisionist history, given both the “energy crisis” rhetoric of the 1970s and Dr. Holdren’s own bet that resources would become more scarce. Then, in the rest of the critique, Dr. Holdren faulted Dr. Lomborg for not paying enough attention to the reasons that there could be future problems with energy supplies.
Dr. Holdren’s resistance to dissenting views was also on display earlier this year in an article asserting that climate skeptics are “dangerous.” (You can read about the response to that article at DotEarth.)
Dr. Holdren is certainly entitled to his views, but what concerns me is his tendency to conflate the science of climate change with prescriptions to cut greenhouse emissions. Even if most climate scientists agree on the anthropogenic causes of global warming, that doesn’t imply that the best way to deal with the problem is through drastic cuts in greenhouse emissions. There are other ways to cope, and there’s no “scientific consensus” on which path looks best.
Roger A. Pielke Jr., a professor of environmental studies at the University of Colorado and the author of “The Honest Broker: Making Sense of Science in Policy and Politics,” discussed Dr. Holdren’s conflation of science and politics in a post on the Prometheus blog:
The notion that science tells us what to do leads Holdren to appeal to authority to suggest that not only are his scientific views correct, but because his scientific views are correct, then so too are his political views.
At the Reason Hit & Run blog, Ronald Bailey reviews some of Dr. Holdren’s work and notes that in a 1995 essay, he and his coauthors (Gretchen C. Daily and Dr. Ehrlich) “acknowledge ecological ignorance about the principles of economics, but don’t express any urgency in learning about them.”
At OpenMarket.org, the Competitive Enterprise Institute blog, Chris Horner criticizes the reported Holdren appointment and suggests that Dr. Holdren got in to the National Academy of Sciences through a “back door.” What kind of White House science advisor you think Dr. Holdren would make?
Source:
http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/19/flawed-science-advice-for-obama/
Democrats are making a public spectacle. We have Il,NJ and NY with the politicians trying to put their favorite non-qualified candidates there, to fill the Senate seats. Lot of bucks at stake here and we the public have to put up with it.
It’s now about six weeks since the election.
What happened about voter fraud? Shouldn’t the talking about and reporting about it still be going on and on and on and on.
Shouldn’t we still be hearing about the voter fraud problem daily. I mean it’s only been six weeks.
Oh that’s right, the Dems won. I guess there was no voter fraud. Thank goodness that problem is solved.
If you need to be out walking for whatever reason, mine was the pleading eyes of my best canine friend, WALK SOUTH! I understand this could make it a looooong trip if you return to your starting place, but I’m still recommending you NOT walk north. Are you sure footed enough to walk backwards?
“I would have stood at the point of the explosion and noted every window in sight. Then those buildings would have been destroyed.”
JUST the sort of thinking that gets lots of people on both sides killed through retaliation on retaliation while such vermin as you sit in a comfortable chair and issue orders for more.
I’ve been there, done that little man. You seem to be the ‘all knowing’ in your comfortable chair.
What have you done for your country lately? Ever?
I repeat,
They are not ‘insurgents’. They are cowardly terrorists assholes that hide behind their own women and children.
I wonder if generaston has a specific instance of voter fraud he’d like to document and discuss?
Or is he just another republican whiiiiiiiiner.
Be happy. You’re going to have a bigot in the white house. Even David Corn agrees.
It’s very simple, george. We have elected a former senator from Illinois as president of the United States.
The democratic machine in Illinois is so incredibly corrupt that they cannot fill his seat. Six weeks after the election and we have one group of crooks unable to select another crook to fill the seat that the crook that won the presidency vacated.
We are now to believe that the messiah can bring hope and change to our nation. What ever the hell that means.
When you give a gift this Christmas do you KNOW it will be appreciated by the recipient?
Will they realize the time, money and effort it took.
Will they realize how many hours you had to work to make enough to pay for the gift.
The preparation you had to go through, just to go and get the gift.
Will they ever understand that the delivery man, once he found out what the gift was, wanted nothing more then to bring this gift to them.
Will they realize that to you, the gift is so precious that you wanted to share it with them.
Will they appreciate that it is a gift that you have given with your heart.
After they receive the gift, how will it be treated.
Will it be cherished.
Will it be held tight and not easily thrown away.
Will they understand that this precious gift you have given them must be shared.
Will it be pushed to the side by others as a gift not worth having.
Will the person who received the gift listen to others who tell them not to accept the gift, it means nothing.
Will they listen, when others tell them, that giving the gift to them mean’t nothing to you.
Will they listen to these others, or will they hold onto this gift, no matter what, with all their might, realizing the sacrifice you have made to give them this gift.
The gift: FREEDOM
The recipient: MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, ALL OVER THE WORLD.
The giver: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
The delivery man: THE U.S. MILITARY
“They are not ‘insurgents’. They are cowardly terrorists assholes that hide behind their own women and children.”
The Kings army might have had much the same sentiment about those who fought for American independence.
And I’m no littler than you.
Yeah you rode around in the belly of a submarine and I didn’t. Big deal.
You can’t kill an idea with bullets and bombs. Even trying only puts fuel on the fire.
Hank in a real sense you are correct that the average Iraqis is a non-insurgent. Not wanting to be involved in either over throwing Saddam themselves or stopping the continuing fighting. But look at the odds in your approach. You are not likely to kill that many insurgents and more likely to fuel their cause. Killing more non-insurgents. If the goal would be to save the house from fire and the fire department shows up and instead of water coming from the hoses. It is gasoline they pump on the house would that make you think of calling the fire department the next time you see a fire?
The same goes for Iraq, we are there to save them from the fire is our claim. And I agree that our troops do resist the human impulse to kill them all and lets God sort them out. But it is the impression and not the facts that the average Iraqis has to deal with. As I implied in the story that the average Iraqis could put it in to prospective of since the Americans do not know whom or where the insurgency is. They have to do an open search for them. House to house and often done in the middle of the night. That is the facts of the matter but the impression is that you and yours are being terrified and your home… Your castle is being violated the one place you can feel secure. And you are not part of the insurgency you do not want to be a part of the solution is true. But neither are you wanting to be a part of the problem either.
In a force to take a stand your choices become to be a part of those that are fighting to drive a foreign invader from the land that has terrified your family. Or to be a part of the invaders who have terrified your family. Which would you choose? No need to answer my friend, as I too would be there with my weapon and boots on. It is just a point of view that we need to see in the grand scheme of things and to understand.
So that would be a “no” on a documented instance of voter fraud that generaston wants to talk about….
Belgian govt. fails as fallout from bush financial collapse.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081220/bs_nm/us_financial_2
So, little man, what have you done for your country lately? Ever?
Geez farm,
I’m pretty sure everyone else got what I was saying. Let me know when you catch up.
Maybe more pictures???
The voter fraud is being addressed in minnesota, Franken will be the winner when it is cleaned up.
Ya know, as I remember, you are smaller than me in stature there Hank.
You’re definitely smaller in character.
Well, I’ll tell you what I haven’t done.
I haven’t pumped my fist and waved a flag and brayed loudly towards putting other people in harms way.
Better yet, when cappy gets here have him explain it to you.
“I’m pretty sure everyone else got what I was saying.”
Oh, I got what you are saying. I just want to see some proof.
Which clearly, you can not provide. It’s just a general whiiiiiine from “you people”.
Besides, you have a religious bigot in the white house who will not end the war.
WTF more do you want?
Well there you go phantom, since a dem has not been declared the winner in Minnesota yet, then there
MUST be,
HAS to be,
NO other way around it,
PLAIN as day,
voter fraud going on there.
Catching up there yet farm???
writerdog,
The original story that you shared with us was propaganda horseshit. Why you bring it up now I have no idea.
It’s propaganda because it is based on a few false premises. Your non-insurgent in this little vignette has done nothing wrong. The American troops have invaded his house for no reason. False premise.
Our troops did not invade houses for no reason. Were mistakes made? Of course. However, the reality is that for every terrorist that planted an IED in Iraq, twenty or more civilians sat around and did nothing.
Our fighting men are much too busy to ‘terrorize’ innocent civilians. To believe your little story you have to believe that they did as a matter of routine.
Still waiting on your proof.
Superstition. It isnt just for the religious anymore.
So, little man, what have you done for your country lately? Ever?
“Our troops did not invade houses for no reason.”
Uh huh.
Michael Moore musta staged the footage of it he put in “Fahrenheit 911″ huh?
Obama is a religious bigot?
If that’s your view you are set up for a life of continued misery for the rest of your days.
STILL not quite there farm.
You will notice that there has been NO whining, crying, reporting, blogging, (and whatever else you dems did after 2000 and 2004) SINCE the Dems won.
Or maybe I’m just not reading the correct newspapers.
Am I missing the reporting that there are millions of republicans marching to their state houses and protesting the voter fraud of the 2008 presidential election.
And that there has been mass rioting by republicans because of the election results.
How many republicans have died in their hunger strikes outside Congress to protest the results of the election.
Just another whine generaston.
Proof to back up your whine?
heheh HAHAHAHHA
Not so much.
“You will notice that there has been NO whining, crying, reporting, blogging, (and whatever else you dems did after 2000 and 2004) SINCE the Dems won.”
heheheh. Maybe that is because there was no voter fraud, like you claim?
Michael Moore?
You should aspire to obtain better heroes. Only a little man would use Michael Moore as an expert on anything.
So, little man, what have you done for your country lately? Ever?
Only a man with doubt of his own virility would keep tossing out the taunt “little man”.
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HLP
Posted December 20, 2008 at 9:58 am | Permalink
It’s very simple, george. We have elected a former senator from Illinois as president of the United States.
The democratic machine in Illinois is so incredibly corrupt that they cannot fill his seat. Six weeks after the election and we have one group of crooks unable to select another crook to fill the seat that the crook that won the presidency vacated.
We are now to believe that the messiah can bring hope and change to our nation. What ever the hell that means.
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So what now, Hank: Nuke Chicago and throw Obama under a bus? You asked , “So, little man, what have you done for your country lately? Ever?” Obama hasn’t even started yet, and you’re ready to relegate him to the trash dump of history? I voted for Bush the first time, and recognized his failings pretty quick, but I did give him time to show me his mettle prior to figuring out his politics. What are you doing for your country, now, besides calling your president the messiah?
From a discussion of stocks by HLPless on yesterday’s open thread.
“Almost bought Chrysler a week ago, couldn’t pull the trigger. I’ve been pretty lucky. Lost a lot on paper with my long term stuff this year but I’m doing OK on my Scott trade account.” — HLPless
Chrysler isn’t traded publically, but I’m sure you meant either Ford or GM, right? Haw, haw, haw.
HLPless is a fraud like Fibulus.
The Messiah as well as the label of The One are quotes from his supporters.
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beber
Posted December 20, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink
From a discussion of stocks by HLPless on yesterday’s open thread.
“Almost bought Chrysler a week ago, couldn’t pull the trigger. I’ve been pretty lucky. Lost a lot on paper with my long term stuff this year but I’m doing OK on my Scott trade account.” — HLPless
Chrysler isn’t traded publically, but I’m sure you meant either Ford or GM, right? Haw, haw, haw.
HLPless is a fraud like Fibulus.
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Really?
Chrysler used to be sold under Daimler-Chrysler.
I think it was later re-absorbed into Daimler.
I have mutual funds, so don’t invest individually, but have seen the reports.
“Regular” –
Since August, 2007, Chrysler has been owned by Cerberus Capital Management, L.P.
Please try to keep up.
Well, actually, Chrysler is owned by a Cerberus which is a privately owned equity holding company. You can’t buy stock in either one, but it is possible to ‘buy’ an interest in the upcoming merger between Chrysler and GM.
It’s a little complex but basically you are ‘buying Chrysler’. My offer still stands, email me if you care to know what I buy and sell and why.
The worse congress ever in action:
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With economy in shambles, Congress gets a raise
By Jordy Yager
Posted: 12/17/08 05:41 PM [ET]
A crumbling economy, more than 2 million constituents who have lost their jobs this year, and congressional demands of CEOs to work for free did not convince lawmakers to freeze their own pay.
Instead, they will get a $4,700 pay increase, amounting to an additional $2.5 million that taxpayers will spend on congressional salaries, and watchdog groups are not happy about it.
“As lawmakers make a big show of forcing auto executives to accept just $1 a year in salary, they are quietly raiding the vault for their own personal gain,” said Daniel O’Connell, chairman of The Senior Citizens League (TSCL), a non-partisan group. “This money would be much better spent helping the millions of seniors who are living below the poverty line and struggling to keep their heat on this winter.”
However, at 2.8 percent, the automatic raise that lawmakers receive is only half as large as the 2009 cost of living adjustment of Social Security recipients.
Still, Steve Ellis, vice president of the budget watchdog Taxpayers for Common Sense, said Congress should have taken the rare step of freezing its pay, as lawmakers did in 2000.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/with-economy-in-shambles-congress-gets-a-raise-2008-12-17.html
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Just like Algore do as I say not as I do.
Makes ya wonder what makes a company choose their name?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus
Yep, it’s amazing how easy it is to push to a socialist agenda, when it is someone else’s money.
You think all that dribble Kennedy has been spouting all these years affects HIS bottom line? Not at all, everyone else should pay for it.
Raise taxes to pay for the socialist agenda?
Go right ahead, my family has plenty of money.
My budget isn’t being pushed to the limit.
Go right ahead, I just got a 4,700 raise.
I’m almost 64 years old, little man. I’ve spent my youth and virility wisely.
Just for you:
http://www.davekopel.org/terror/59Deceits.pdf
Use taxpayer money to bailout the unions?
Go right ahead, the unions have been BIG donors to me for years.
Funny statistic is that Obama won the majority of votes of those making over 200k per yr.! Yet the little people republican lament the socialist agenda, ignoring the fact that it was reagenism that drove us here in the first place.
Phantom I will say again what I said before the election. If the democrats hadn’t won this election, they would never win another one. They could have ran the ‘Energizer Bunny’ and won.
The economy was in the dumps, we were in an unpopular war, the media was so in the tank for Obama that nothing republican looked good. The only surprise was the addition of Palin to the repub ticket.
The left now has all three branches and the pressure is on the democrats. Everything they do will be looked on as suspect and taking a payraise when others are jobless doesn’t look good. Two years before the next election.
And with talk like this:
“CHICAGO (AP) — Completing his Cabinet a month before taking office, President-elect Barack Obama named officials to oversee transportation, labor, trade and small business policy Friday but warned that economic recovery won’t be nearly as swift. “It will take longer than any of us would like — years, not months. It will get worse before it gets better. But it will get better if we are willing to act boldly and swiftly,” Obama said — and he promised to do just that.
”
Obama isn’t making points.
Biden finally opens his mouth to give this dire prediction:
“Economy in Danger of ‘Absolutely Tanking’
December 19, 2008 3:42 PM
Vice President-Elect Joe Biden said the U.S. economy is in danger of “absolutely tanking” and will need a second stimulus package in the $600-billion to $700-billion range.
“The economy is in much worse shape than we thought it was in,” Biden told me during an exclusive interview — his first since becoming vice president-elect– to air this Sunday on “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.”
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It isn’t encouraging that excuses are starting before they take office.
I just hope this isn’t the future change we were promised.
Heheheh. But it’s all ok grmie, because he’s invited a wingnut to pray at his party.
Get with the program.
This is indeed, the “change” america voted for.
“It isn’t encouraging that excuses are starting before they take office.”
You should hear the excuses he’s making to his base for inviting rick warren.
His base?
You mean you and Blue jay? LOL
They won’t know the true depth of decay until they get into office.
Kind of like taking over a job that someone has recently vacated, don’t know until you get into it how bad it is.
KFG we have discussed and cussed your point for two days and I don’t want to play that game today. The world is larger than you. And we have serious problems that have to be addressed.
Thanks for proving once again you cant read. People here, other than JR and I, dont agree with it either.
Do a little google search. Ninety percent of the democrats in a democratic website poll dont agree with him inviting warren.
But you are welcome to whatever fantasy you concoct.
Yeah grmie. We know. Civil rights are just a “game” for you.
If he lies to his base, you better hope we make room under the bus for you and yours too.
America chose him. Now they’ll have to choke on him.
Hee hee hee heeeee….
“It isn’t encouraging that excuses are starting before they take office.
I just hope this isn’t the future change we were promised.”
Hell, I’m agreeing with you and you still want to pick a fight with me?
HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHA
Monkeyhawk was right about you yesterday.
Website poll? oh geez.
…and your proof that it’s only JR and I would be, um, what?
Think of it like the six dollar man, we’re at the stage where we are getting the mutilated body.
I was being a smart ass FG, but at least in this fantasy world you two are the loudest.
You two seem to think you are mainstream when you are about as far from it as you can be.
Hank posted December 20, 2008 at 9:11 am
Consider what happened when a successor to Dr. Simon, Bjorn Lomborg, published “The Skeptical Environmentalist” in 2001. Dr. Holdren joined in an an extraordinary attack on the book in Scientific American – an attack that I thought did far more harm to the magazine’s reputation than to Dr. Lomborg’s.
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Thank you Hank, for yet again proving that you’re clueless about science.
A collection of comments re Lomborg.
http://www.desmogblog.com/bjorn-lomborg
Farmgrl if I sounded insenitive to your problem I’m sorry. I do understand what you are saying. I just think we have cussed and discussed it to death. I even tried to give some solutions that would address what you are saying without changing the definition of marriage which seems to be the hangup for most voters who are against SS marriage.
BlueJay
Posted December 19, 2008 at 11:10 pm | Permalink
Again, if God has instruction or wisdom for me? I will require he impart them in person.
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And what makes BJ so worthy as to have a face to face meeting with God?
Why would God want to talk to you face to face BJ, the self-righteous one?
BlueJay
Posted December 19, 2008 at 11:10 pm | Permalink
Again, if God has instruction or wisdom for me? I will require he impart them in person.
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Oh gosh you can’t make this stuff up!!!
You’ll get it. Too late for you with that attitude. But you’ll get it.
BlueJay
Posted December 19, 2008 at 11:10 pm | Permalink
Again, if God has instruction or wisdom for me? I will require he impart them in person.
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JR this is the arrogance that had you meeting yourself in a parking lot.
“You two seem to think you are mainstream”
Please post where either one of us has said or implied that.
Full of shit again.
“Well, actually, Chrysler is owned by a Cerberus which is a privately owned equity holding company. You can’t buy stock in either one, but it is possible to ‘buy’ an interest in the upcoming merger between Chrysler and GM.” — HLPless.
No shame. They just add another layer. Maybe by putting money on the Vegas line.
BlueJay
Posted December 19, 2008 at 11:10 pm | Permalink
Again, if God has instruction or wisdom for me? I will require he impart them in person.
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BJ REQUIRES God to meet him face to face…
Yes how arrogant.
And I hope God does choose to meet with him.
Still reading my stuff, scooter?
hehehe
Another example of our dysfunctional media,
“Winter storm” causes Dobbs to ask: “What’s that global warming deal?”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200812190013?f=h_latest
ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 20, 2008 at 11:57 am | Permalink
“You two seem to think you are mainstream”
Please post where either one of us has said or implied that.
Full of shit again.
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It’s getting really boring explaining your own words to you. Gosh you are mental.
But here it goes (and for the last time….)
You have both stated that the Rick Warren decision pisses off the “base.” The only one’s pissed are the pro-gay marriage crowd.
Gay Marriage continually gets voted down nearly everywhere.
Clue for you – With the exception of Presidential elections (Electoral College) MAJORITIES win elections.
Perhaps I am jumping to too much of a conclusion for you but I also consider a MAJORITY to be MAINSTREAM.
Hank,
Did you enjoy this page?
‘Andrew Bolt: Dumb-@rse Pt. XVCIICXI‘
http://n3xus6.blogspot.com/2008/07/andrew-bolt-dumb-arse-pt-xvciicxi.html
do a little reading kia. Even the episcopal bishop of DC is pissed at obama for inviting warren.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=greatest_threads
Check out the THOUSANDS of posts from straight people and tell me gays are the only ones pissed off.
Full of shit. Again.
Well considering 40% of the population is not Gay, Lesbian or Transgender it’s not a surprise dumb ass.
I said supporters of Gay Marriage retard.
And 40% is still not a majority nor mainstream as I am sure you are mathematically challenged as well.
‘Obama names Holdren, Lubchenco to science posts’
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081220/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama
“Colleagues say the post is well-suited for Holdren, who at Harvard went from battling the spread of nuclear weapons to tackling the threat of global warming. He’s an award-laden scientist comfortable in many different fields.
“Global warming is a misnomer. It implies something gradual, something uniform, something quite possibly benign, and what we’re experiencing is none of those,” Holdren said a year ago in a speech at Harvard. “There is already widespread harm … occurring from climate change. This is not just a problem for our children and our grandchildren.” “
JWink,
I’ll hear all about the ice show tomorrow, I’m sure. Monday is my oldest granddaughter’s seventh birthday, and she’ll be getting a note from me at her party today that there will be four tickets waiting at the ice center for her and her family for tonight’s show. I’d love to go, too, but maybe next year she’ll be in it, not seeing it, since my daughter is thinking ice skating lessons might be fun for her.
Thanks to you commenting not long ago on Ice Sports, I was able to tell my daughter that it’s under new management and doing well. I’m sure we’ll all be visiting for a round of ice skating before spring arrives. If everyone will please stock up on BenGay and aspirin for me, I’d appreciate it. ;)
So farmie did you vote for Obama and now you trash him before he’s even sworn-in?
Amazing.
If so, that pretty much defines you to be a pure Btich.
Course, that’s probably a compliment to you.
I don’t click on your links, scooter. But thanks for asking.
Hank posted December 20, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I don’t click on your links, scooter.
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It’s probably better for you if you don’t click on my links, Hank.
If you read them, you might realise that your AGW denial is very stupid. Ignorance is bliss. . .
“Whether its the science to slow global warming; the technology to protect our troops and confront bioterror and weapons of mass destruction; the research to find life-saving cures; or the innovations to remake our industries and create twenty-first century jobs – today, more than ever before, science holds the key to our survival as a planet and our security and prosperity as a nation. Its time we once again put science at the top of our agenda and worked to restore Americas place as the world leader in science and technology.
Because the truth is that promoting science isnt just about providing resources – its about protecting free and open inquiry. Its about ensuring that facts and evidence are never twisted or obscured by politics or ideology. Its about listening to what our scientists have to say, even when its inconvenient – especially when its inconvenient. Because the highest purpose of science is the search for knowledge, truth and a greater understanding of the world around us. That will be my goal as President of the United States – and I could not have a better team to guide me in this work.”
President elect Barack Obama
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/20/transcript-president-elect-barack-obamas-radio-address/
JJ?
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I’ve said multiple times here who I supported for president. And it was never obama.
Do try to keep up.
…and unlike you bushbots, when an elected official proves to be wrong, and not what he held himself out to be, we thinking people can change our minds.
You? Not so much.
Thanks for proving again that the obamabots and the bushbots share the complete and utter inability to admit mistakes.
just like barack and george.
“ksfarmgrrl” –
Maybe you don’t consider me an “obamabot,” but you do know I support the President-elect.
Even so, I think the Warren decision is wrong and misguided.
It strikes me as significant the twice-born are just as pissed of as you are…at Rick Warren for associating with Obama!
It makes me wonder if Obama isn’t smack dab in the middle. And the gist of the “who gives the invocation?” kerfuffle strikes me as getting distracted by symbolism rather than substance.
In the Illinois Senate, Obama consistently voted for GLBT rights. You know that. Back in February, when your were strong for Hillary and the McClurkin appearance cropped up, I was still advocating John Edwards’ candidacy (that was pre-love-child, but I digress).
Frankly, I’d never heard of McClurkin prior to that. Since then, I’ve learned about him and recognize what that symbolic campaign appearance must have meant to the GLBT community.
I know a bit more about Warren, and I think it’s a political misstep at best; or, at worst, a too-clever by half Machiavellian machination.
I suspect it’s somewhere in the middle.
There is no defense for having preachers who preach such against gays if you’re for their civil rights. None. How would blacks feel if Obama had the grand wizard of the KKK speaking at his inauguration? Do people not get that’s exactly the same thing we’re talking about here?
I think that’s what he should do- if he really believes that reaching across the aisle to those who disagree is best, then he should be reaching out to racist groups as well.
I have no problem coming to the table for talks with these people *like Warren*, but I”m not inviting them to dinner and I’m certianly not going to hire them to do xyz for me.
There IS NO EXCUSE.
Thanks Pmom.
George Bush also got crap from both sides on various issues. Waaaay more from the left of course, but there are wingnuts unhappy with him on some things too.
That doesnt make shrub right either.
Maybe, Monkeyhawk, you should consider, that when both sides think you are wrong, you are, well, wrong.
This was a dumbass move on obama’s part. It was stupid at best, and triangulation at worst.
We’ll see if he’s too stubborn to admit he’s wrong. I doubt if he will. And THAT will make him just like shrub. No matter how you slice it or excuse it.
Interesting,
Equating Rick Warren with the grand wizard of the KKK! Are you really that incredibly ignorant? Really?
Sad. Pathetically sad.
I quite agree P-Mama…
Question: Has anybody heard if Warren has accepted the Obama Team invitation?
I have not heard or seen Warren’s acceptance anywhere yet. Anybody have a link on that??
In warren’s own words, this is possibly the greatest minister?
http://www.beggarscanbechoosers.com/2008/12/rick-warrens-hero-wa-criswell-also-used.html
And the difference would be….?????
I’m sure the grand wizard doesnt use his own hands to kill folks. But he sure supports the others who do.
And the difference would be….???????
Sorry, wordpress problem. Or operator error.
Here’s warrens own words.
http://legacy.pastors.com/RWMT/default.asp?id=36&artid=1474&expand=1
Yeah Monkeyhawk. I’m sure obama was just bringing all sides together.
Personally, I think Obama should have invited the General Minister/President of his own denomination OR one of the mainline clergy from Hawaii for the Invocation or Benediction. But he didnt do that either, so go figure… Perhaps a motivation will yet be brought forward. I think Warren is a wrong choice for many reasons.
“Question: Has anybody heard if Warren has accepted the Obama Team invitation?”
Chas, I’ll go find the link. But he not only accepted, he PRAISED obama for standing up to the “heat” he was being given.
Bawks posted December 20, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Nothing you brought up conclusively refutes what I brought here, different conclusion from different points of view:
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Actually, it does refute your old, out-of-date, 1995 “point of view”.
http://www.bestofmaui.com/ournvmg2.html
There’s been a huge amount of climate science done since 1995.
Here ya go Chas. This is his statement. From Huffpo.
“Here is Rick Warren’s statement praising Obama for his “courage” in picking the pastor to deliver the invocation at the inauguration despite criticism of the president-elect due to Warren’s opposition to gay marriage:
I commend President-elect Obama for his courage to willingly take enormous heat from his base by inviting someone like me, with whom he doesn’t agree on every issue, to offer the Invocation at his historic Inaugural ceremony.”
They might not agree on every issue, but they certainly agree that they are both against gay marriage.
Heheheh. And as usual, the Rude Pundit nails it.
Warning, bad language, not for the faint of heart.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
Thanks KFG… I had not read HuffPo lately… I will take another look at it later…
I guess I was hoping that Warren would cave in to his base, and deny the invitation… It could still happen…. Warren has yet to get through this Sunday, Christmas Eve, and the Sunday after Christmas… Lots of time for his “faithful sheeple” to call him out on the invitation…
Hey, we can hope, eh???
Warren will be dragged to side of compassion & justice…. not to worry
DavidB — IF Warren does that, he will most certainly get tossed out of the So. Bapt. Conv. —
This is a transformative time. Southern Baptists are irrelevant. The balance of power has shifted.
Bush just refused to agree with a UN resolution saying that homosexuality should not be a crime.
This kind of crap is done. This kind of pandering is over, Jan. 20.
Warren’s crap is toast. He may be in a position to bring the rest of the flock to a higher level of acceptance of diversity. (I realise this is just my wishful thinking… but as I say, this is a new age)
That obama, he just keeps on filling posts with qualified people instead of ideologues!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081220/ap_on_el_pr/obama_174
A great analysis that AGW deniers should read.
Heavy snow (job)
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/heavy-snow-job/
I have heard that for the Benediction at the Inaugural, Obama has invited a long-time stalwart of civil rights since the 1960’s, the Rev. Mr. Joseph Lowrey, who by the way, has publicly stated that he is in favor of equal rights for everyone, including those in favor of SS marriage.
Having dealt with prejudice and the denial of his own civil rights during his youth and early adulthood, he does not discriminate. (Except maybe against KKK’ers; and he can certainly be forgiven for that.)
More important than if the rw preacher will have a couple minutes in the national spotlight, is that he will not have the access and influence of say Billy Graham or some of those other nuts have enjoyed the past 8 yrs.
Pelosi and Reid give themselves a raise
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/20/pay-raises-lawmakers-angers-watchdog-groups/
“It will take longer than any of us would like — years, not months. It will get worse before it gets better. But it will get better if we are willing to act boldly and swiftly,” Obama said
He said the same thing while campaigning, so why are you surprised it’s being repeated? In fact, I think it was part of his speech at the convention.
It sounds like the Repubs expected Obama to wave a magic stick and make everything better, while they go about their day in the same way they always have. Sorry, Obama doesn’t have a magic stick, but Bush didn’t even have or give a twig about anything except making his buddies rich. How’s the working for all you Bush buddies?
If congress shouldn’t get a cola, neither should any govt. worker, it all comes out of the same till.
That’s a BIG potato!
‘Lebanese finds ‘heaviest’ potato’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7771042.stm
I guess you got owned Hank, not that you’d ever admit it.
Who owns me this time darling, I lose tract.
DETROIT – One measure of how tough times are in the Motor City: Some of the offenders in jail don’t want to be released; some who do get out promptly re-offend to head back where there’s heat, health care and three meals a day.
“For the first time, I’m seeing guys make a conscious decision they’ll be better off in prison than in the community, homeless and hungry,” said Joseph Williams of New Creations Community Outreach, which assists ex-offenders. “In prison they’ve got three hots and a cot, so they commit a crime to go back in and come out when times are better.”
For now, better times seem distant. Even with no hurricane or other natural disaster to blame, Detroit has — by many measures — replaced New Orleans as America’s most beleaguered city.
The jobless rate has climbed past 21 percent, the embattled school district just fired its superintendent, tens of thousands of homes and stores are derelict and abandoned, the ex-mayor is in jail for a text-messaging sex scandal. Even the pro football team is a pathetic joke — the Lions are within two losses of an unprecedented 0-16 season.
And overarching these and many other woes is the near-collapse of the U.S. auto industry, Detroit’s vital source of jobs and status for more than a century.
“We’re the Motor City,” said Scott Alan Davis, who oversees community development projects in one of the worst-hit neighborhoods. “When the basis for that name collapses, that’s started to scare people.”
Among the worried is 81-year-old Warlena McDuell, a retired surgical technician who shares a home with her cancer-stricken daughter. On a recent weekday, she was among hundreds of Detroiters, most of them elderly, filling orange-plastic grocery carts at a food bank run by Focus:HOPE, a local nonprofit.
More at: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081220/ap_on_re_us/motown_blues_3
I can’t wait to see the hypocritical posts from the Phony Preacher about Christmas and his phony wishes & blessings of good cheer.
Remember his foul mouthed, HI-CAPPED, personal attacks posted right here on the Wee Blog, when you read his wishes of glad tidings and joy.
News on the Global Warming front:
Looks like China cutting back for the two months surrounding the Olympics accounts for the current Global COOLING trend.
Another study shows that if all Americans would dial back their thermostats to 42 degrees in the winter, we’d see the same effect, essentially solving the Global Warming problem today.
PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE
Turn back your thermostats tonight to 42 degrees, and rejoice in the power YOU have to save the world!
And let’s hope Obama, as he solves all of our problems, kicks out the illegal immigrants to ensure that Americans, even the JR types, can find work.
Obama HAS to deport the illegals, otherwise, they are staying in the US and they are now out of work, so they are draining our welfare system away from those who are here legally, like JR.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,470656,00.html
Unemployed Americans Competing With Immigrant Labor for Unskilled Jobs
Saturday, December 20, 2008
Pay Raises for Lawmakers Anger Watchdog Groups
Each lawmaker is due for a $4,700 cost-of-living wage hike starting in January, which will amount to a total cost of $2.5 million for taxpayers
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/20/pay-raises-lawmakers-angers-watchdog-groups/
This MAJORITY DEMORAT CONGRESS:
WORST CONGRESS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Actually, it does refute your old, out-of-date, 1995 “point of view”.
There’s been a huge amount of climate science done since 1995.”
Oh boy, I love it, “There’s been a huge amount of climate science done since 1995.”
But the temps recordings haven’t changed, or were they incorrect then and not now, or the other way around? Are you talking about short periods of time or long periods of time, is since 1995 a short or long period of time? Do you even know what you are talking about…..I don’t think so, you just like to think you do, faux scientist.
Oh my gosh, look at tonight’s chill map, hoping the link works for a time:
http://vortex.plymouth.edu/uschill.gif
Ah….what’s that Christmas song, “Baby its cold outside”. Because baby it is cold outside and who cares about AGW.
Keep up the ridiculousness there cosmos, few care.
When was the last time congress voted not to accept their cola?
Aww come on Box, do your part to save the planet.
I’m SURE all the Libs here are turning their thermostats down to 42 at this very moment!
They surely wouldn’t expect SOMEBODY ELSE to solve Global Warming for them, without their making any personal sacrifices.
Surely not.
I’m just sure thy wouldn’t expect not to sacrifice.
No siree.
Phantom
Posted December 20, 2008 at 8:49 pm | Permalink
When was the last time congress voted not to accept their cola?
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10,000 Wrongs makes it Right then.
Goodnite everyone, and have sweet dreams of Hope.
Each day going forward will be even more glorious then the last!
Obama will soon build his own kingdom, right here on Earth!
I am so inspired and filled with optimism at the hope the future now brings.
Everynight before I go to sleep, I read this. Obama inspires me oh so much!
“I should like to help everyone if possible; Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, black men, white, red, and yellow. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each others’ happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.
Greed has poisoned men’s souls; has barricaded the world with hate; we live in misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Industry that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge as made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than wealth we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. Modern communications and technology have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in man; cries out for universal brotherhood; for the unity of us all.
Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me, I say “Do not despair.” The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it’s written “the kingdom of God is within man”, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create prosperity, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power.
Let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men and women a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill their promise. They never will! Evil rulers free themselves but they enslave the people! Now let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world! To do away with national barriers! To do away with greed, with hate and intolerance! Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness.
Citizens of the world, in the name of democracy, let us all unite!
People can you hear me? Wherever you are, look up! The clouds are lifting! The sun is breaking through! We are coming out of the darkness into the light! We are coming into a new world; a kind new world, where men and women will rise above their hate, their greed, and brutality. Look up!
The soul of mankind has been given wings and at last he is beginning to fly. He is flying into the rainbow. Into the light of hope! Into the future! The glorious future! That belongs to you, to me, and to all of us. Look up, everyone! Look up!”
And I can’t wait to see the NUCKIN FUTS HI CAPS PHONY PREACHER give his PHONY BLESSING AGAIN TONIGHT!
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YUCK! YUCK! YUCK!
WHAT A FRICKIN HYPOCRITE! GIVING US A BLESSING AFTER USING SUCH FOWL MOUTHED LANGUAGE!
WHAT A LITTLE CUSSIN PHONY PREACHER HE IS!
NEXT HE’LL BE GIVIN HIS SPECIAL CHRISTMAS BLESSING! (Just after he advocates killing more babies through A B O R T I O N !!!)
Merry Christmas dead babies of Wichita!
Boxlock20 posted December 20, 2008 at 8:46 pm
“Actually, it does refute your old, out-of-date, 1995 “point of view”.
There’s been a huge amount of climate science done since 1995.”
Oh boy, I love it, “There’s been a huge amount of climate science done since 1995.”
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Bawks, did you NOT even read what YOUR copy/paste of the 1995 page requested?
Bawks posted December 20, 2008 at 8:28 am
If the models cannot explain these marked variations from the trend, then we cannot be completely certain that we can believe in their predictions of changes to come. For example, in the early 1970’s, because temperatures had been decreasing for about 25 to 30 years, people began predicting the approach of an ice age!
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The models did that request, AFTER 1995, as shown in the link I posted yesterday.
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn11649/dn11649-1_688.jpg
“Because we don’t think about future generations, they will never forget us.” Henrik Tikkanen
Hank,
Do NOT read these links — you might learn some important facts.
‘Obama’s science advisor no fan of Bjorn Lomborg’
http://www.desmogblog.com/obamas-science-advisor-no-fan-bjorn-lomborg
‘Bjorn Lomborg is at it Again’
http://www.desmogblog.com/bjorn-lomborg-it-again
Bawks,
More details re your old 1995 request are in,
‘Frequently Asked Question 9.2
Can the Warming of the 20th Century be Explained by Natural Variability?’
In FAQ or,
Chapter 9 Understanding and Attributing Climate Change
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
Such discretion must come with being the only member of the fourth branch of govt.
Step Away from that Shredder!
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_12/016136.php
Senate-for-sale case threatens new chief of staff
CHICAGO – Gov. Rod Blagojevich is legendary in Illinois political circles for not picking up the phone or returning calls, even from important figures like the state’s senior senator, Dick Durbin.
But there was always one call Blagojevich regularly took, say his aides, and that was from Rahm Emanuel — his congressman, his one-time campaign adviser and, more recently — and troubling for Emanuel — one of his contacts with President-elect Barack Obama’s transition staff.
The friendly rapport Blagojevich and Emanuel shared over the years has suddenly become a troubling liability for Emanuel and the new president he will serve as chief of staff.
As the worm turns….????
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081221/ap_on_re_us/illinois_governor_emanuel
cosmos,
It just doesn’t matter!
You aren’t going to get people to shut off their furnaces when it’s 10* outside [figure of speech].
And people are not going to allow the ruination of the economy they live in simply to save burning fossil fuels if doing so is more economical. And people will revolt if you try to tax them excessively on fossil fuels in the attempt to force a switch as that will ruin the economy as well.
As I said, people will choose to live, not revert back to the stone age in spite of what you want.
Here cosmos, I know weather isn’t the same as climate but climate is what effects us where we live, and that is what folks are concerned about.
Winter weather blasts nation from end to end
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081221/ap_on_re_us/wintry_weather
The whole country practically is COLD….to heck with ‘warming’!
Sure glad I have that gas log cast iron stove burning in the family room….sure makes the house cozy.
Holiday Closures
Date: December 19, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
In observance of the Christmas holiday, City of Wichita facilities will be closed Thursday, Dec 25, and Friday, Dec. 26. This includes Neighborhood City Halls, Park and Recreation Centers, Cowtown, the Wichita Art Museum and Botanica. Wichita Public Library branches will be open from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. on Dec. 24 but will be closed Dec. 25 and Dec. 26. Neighborhood City Halls will close at 5 p.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 24. City Arts will close at 5 p.m. on Dec. 24 and will be closed Dec. 25-27.
Transit services will be closed Dec. 25, but will run the Saturday schedule on Friday, Dec. 26. The information booth will be staffed for information only between the hours of 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. No financial transactions will take place, including making change, and no bus passes will be sold.
Municipal golf courses and the Animal Shelter will be closed Christmas Day. The Animal Shelter will be open holiday hours from 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. on Friday, Dec. 26.
Mid America All Indian Center will close to the public Dec. 20 for renovations and will reopen April 15, 2009
A little cheery news on an otherwise dreary cold day, Franken is in the lead!
http://www.madison.com/tct/news//index.php?ntid=324817
“Franken is in the lead!”
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Oh yes, liberals have SO much to be proud of. From your link describing democrats voting.
“Who could have guessed that filling in an oval — a skill usually mastered in elementary school — could be so vexing?”
Bawks,
LOL! You are predictable. You get pwned on AGW science, so you switch to another falsehood.
That is, we humans are stupid, and have ONLY 2 choices — continue our ‘business as usual’ re fossil fuels, OR return to the ‘Stone Age’.
More on stupid democrats from Phantom’s link:
“”What’s so hard in figuring out how to fill in the dot?” asked David Schultz, an election law professor at Hamline University in St. Paul. “
And finally this from Phantom’s link:
“In the end, it comes down to whose voters were not swift enough to follow the rules,” Schultz said.”
So much for democrats to be cheery about. (snort, snort, snickle, snickle)
awks posted December 20, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Here cosmos, I know weather isn’t the same as climate but <bclimate is what effects us where we live, and that is what folks are concerned about.
Winter weather blasts nation from end to end.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081221/ap_on_re_us/wintry_weather
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Uhhh. . . Bawks? Weather is what affects us. Climate is the average weather during a time, commonly 30 years.
Note the headline and link you copy/pasted.
SB,
Here cosmos, I know weather isn’t the same as climate but climate is what effects us where we live,. . .
Highs around 80 Sunday in Florida.
http://www.weather.gov/forecasts/graphical/sectors/
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!
“peeace on earth, good will to all!!” (even the hate filled jimjohnson)
“unless one becomes as a little child, they shall not enter the kingdom of heaven”
so mote it be!!
GAWWWWD, THIS COUNTRY??!?!?!?!?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/books/12/16/andrew.jackson/index.html
Now they berate one of our true American heros???
He said no to a central bank, balanced our budget for the first time and stuck it to the man.
And now that people today could learn something from him, they attack him.
I’m ashamed.
Andrew Jackson, the father of our country’s Manifest Destiny. Quite a guy, and complex. Truly an icon in U.S. history.
Read Magnificent Destiny, a historical novel about the lives and friendship of Andrew Jackson and Sam Houston. Both giants among men.
“Andrew Jackson, the father of our country’s Manifest Destiny”
I speak con. Let me translate.
Andrew Jackson was positively HEROIC in stealing land from Native Americans while systematically annihilating them and their way of life.
…and isnt it funny that their hero was nicknamed STONEWALL jackson.
Sometimes, irony is most lost on those who need it.
Google Stonewall Riots to see what I mean.
Wasn’t “Stonewall” Jackson the Confederate general in the Civil War?
Yep, Monkeyhaw, you are right and I was wrong.
See how easy that is?
It only comes from a lifetime of drinking my share of “Old Hickory,” strictly out of respect for the former president. Yeah, that’s it.
Heheheeh. See? I’m not always right.
And I HATE IT when I blow the punchline to a good joke.
My knowledge of Andrew Jackson comes from a song.
“Well in 1814 we took a little trip, along with Col. Jackson down the mighty mississip. Took a little bacon and we took a little beans, and we fought the bloody British in the town of New Orleans”.
It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas – Johnny Mathas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThJUrtSx8Wg
Carol of the Bells Mannheim Steamroller with light animated light display
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UqhmikONm0
Hey Blue Jay, you should give yours back to them then. And you also owe the blacks too. Give all of your crap up and leave. Go back to “your homeland”.
A fucking pity party with you, always. Buck up soldier.
As for me? I’m staying put and will live like I love the land “as they do” (the American Indian), since you believe it was “their land”. It’s funny, “they” feel the land belongs to no one, but “you knew that anyway”, dint ya smart guy?
You folks are just retarded. Feel like a victim ever?
History happens and you folks didin’t pay attention.
“Stonewall Jackson”, sorry KFG, hate to say it but you’re a dolt and you’ve proven your credibility on knowing history.
Wanna insult “my heroes”?
Gow bak tu skul.
And one more thing, the soon after the Mayflower landed, we were trading disease-ridden blankets with the (insert-feel-good-bs-newspeak-term “Native American’s” here) looong before we gave them to them as biological-weapons. I don’t and NEVER-WILL feel guilty about being here (in America), in spite of “Native American’s” or “African-American’s”. Deal with it, I DON’T OWE an Obama-damned thing TO ANYONE. I love humanity, whetever fugging color it is and I’ll be Obama-damned if I let your touchy-feely newspeak make me out like I don’t.
Jesus Pleef, I admitted I was wrong. WTF do you want?
What time is it where you are? ‘Cause it’s too early to be that drunk in this time zone….
Hey pleef?
1820 called. They want to know when you’ll be home.
And big deal…what if he was a Confederate General? What the hell does that imply? You think the war was fought over slavery. I don’t. The Civil War was a war for State’s rights. It is when American’s lost to the current East coast banking and financial elite. But that’s a whole other can of worms that we’ve been to on here.
I will add this though. The men who fought the Civil War knew why they fought…and time passes.
Now we see it as a slave issue in the books. Think of it, 100 years from now, the history students will wonder why we let ourselves wilt and kill the great empire by approving of and signing the banker/auto bailouts. Because obviously, we all wnated the bailout…our representatives in guvmnunt did in fact sign, seal and deliver the thing.
Andrew Jackson was the first to stand up to the snake that is coiled around us now.
I know I’d still love you KFG, if I met you, regardless of how you feel about me..hehheh. Sorry, I was heated up knowing that you were just going down the “race” track, regardless of the timeline.
BlueJay, keep your dayjo…nevermind. You’re no comedian.
The ideals of the Constitution are as valid in this day and age as they were in the time when it was written. They are “God-given” rights (for those of a spiritual persuasion) or Feel free to eat, sleep, shit and fuck rights to the athiests and nihilists here. And only power-mad control freaks find fault with them.
“Andrew Jackson was positively HEROIC in stealing land from Native Americans while systematically annihilating them and their way of life.”
He certainly was wasn’t he, and expanding the U.S. into the great country it is instead of a bunch of tiny separate countries fighting each other and getting nowhere.
And thank goodness for the Indians too, now they at least have the wheel and casinos.
My point, KFG, is that you demand respect and “all that” for your life. You don’t want to be judged, yet you judge yourself. Insinuating that Andrew Jackson and the people that repect him are rascists or whatever by (mistakenly) calling him a Confederate general?
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
And Boxlock, how did the Mayans or Olmecs of Meso-America move those giant monoliths and blocks for the step pyramids w/o the help of a wheel?
Just asking.
I was traveling across the Kansas Flint Hills the other day and, for the first time in months found myself out of NPR range. So, putting the radio on scan, I was confronted by one of the curses of the holiday season: “Jingle Bells,” by the Singing Dogs.
As part of my misspent youth, I spent several years jocking records on the radio. To keep the few functioning brain cells required to be a rock and roll disc jockey, I used to bide the time while the dogs “sang” to consider all those Christmas songs that have nothing to do with Christmas.
“Jingle Bells,” of course, tops the list. There’s nothing about Christmas in the lyrics, even when performed by non-canines.
”Winter Wonderland” is another generic cold weather song. I wonder why those people who think there’s a War on Christmas don’t boycott these songs.
“Frosty the Snowman” is obviously a slap in the face of the faithful, what with whatever (no doubt) demonic “magic” in that old silk had mutating sculpted precipitation into a coal-eyed, carrot-nosed Frankenstein monster.
Leroy Andersons “Sleigh Ride” is another sop to non-motorized winter transportation that has nothing to do with Christmas. It has a redeeming quality that it has never been recorded by singing dogs.
But the worst Christmas song that has nothing to do with Christmas has to be “Good King Wenceslas.” Not only does this totally ignore Christmas, it’s about an entirely different holiday! It’s about The Feast of Stephen! Who the heck was Stephen? How does Stephen’s feast get equal footing with Christmas?
Twice-borns who insist there’s a War on Christmas are ignoring reality altogether! As these five songs demonstrate, the War is almost lost already! If they have a chance at all to win, they’ve got to counter-attack these non-Christmas Christmas songs as the affronts they obviously are! It’s time to counter attack!
It’s time to declare a War on the Feast of Stephen!
“The Feaast of Stephen” is celebrated in the Western churches on December 26 — the “Second Day of Christmas”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_King_Wenceslas
Hope this helps some, Monkey…. It makes a nice little mini-drama if done right….
Personally, my least favorite christmas song is: “I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas” — and that followed by “I Want to Buy these Shoes” (if Mama meets Jesus tonight)
My friend Brad was born on December 24th.
We often have a dinner in his honor but we never got a “Christmas” Carol celebrating “The Feast of Brad,” with the wiggle room it’s one day off from Christmas Day.
Sounds like the Feast of Stephen is fighting a raging battle with Boxing Day in the UK and Canada. Who would you pick in their prime?
“In this corner, weighing 127 pounds and standing 5′6″, Good King Wenceslas! Wenceslas! And in this corner, at 6′4″ and 202 pounds, Muhammad Ali! Ali!”
I say Ali takes the crown.
Yes Ali would win…. LOL
However, Wenceslas would not approve of the CONS dissing those folks in need…. now, or any time of the year…. In the time of Wenceslas, Christmas was only observed for ONE day…. rather than the later 12 days…
Monkey — I have made some sermonic references in prior years to the Sunday after Christmas, as a Day of Wrinkled Wrappings.. similar to the Canadian/UK Boxing days….
“Chas” –
I’m sure the needy really appreciated the two turtle doves that arrived on the 26th.
It replenished the pear tree, as the partridge was delicious.
;^)
Ahh yes, the old Catechism song from England..
Here is something to play in a second tab while blogging, maybe it will improve the tone of the conversations around here….I hope.
Fabulous 50’s Christmas Songs…just click on what you want to hear.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977539462&nav=Namespace
For an anecdotal “history” >>>>
http://www.cresourcei.org/cy12days.html
For those $$$ minded folks >>>>
http://suewidemark.netfirms.com/12days.htm
Monkey —
There is a hilarious version of “12 Days” wherein the lover being gifted becomes rather snarky by the time she has to deal with the partridge, the 3 french hens dropping feathers, the two turtle doves reproducing, the 4 collie (black birds), sqwaking all over the place, the six geese laying eggs all over her house, and the seven rather messy swans, swimming in her most precious back yard fountain….
I cant seem to locate the song, but it IS rather humorous!! Perhaps you can find it and be amused with the “nonense” part of the song…. :-)
“Chas” –
Now that you mention it, I remember it.
I kinda remember the Thank-You note after the 5th day. Something like, “At last, an end to the poultry!”
Then the cows and the lords a leaping and drummers. Seems like it ends with a restraining order.
There’s probably some way to Google it, but I’m not sure which search terms to use.
Could it have been Stan Freberg? I tend to remember it as a print/prose piece, but it’s ripe for sound effects and an evermore infuriated “true love.”
Yea, it might have been Stan Freeburg…