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Uh oh, another whining claim by creationists is shattered again. Another answer to how information is added to the genome is supported by, guess what?, real scientific study, not creationist whining.
How Gene Function Drives Natural Selection In Important Class Of Genetic Elements
ScienceDaily (Dec. 10, 2008) — Transposons are the Clark Kents of a genome. Apparently mild-mannered and inconsequential but with sudden bursts of activity, these free-floating bits of genetic material have for millions of years been sneaking into the genetic maps of plants and animals, dramatically increasing a genome’s size.
For years, researchers thought that most of this DNA was passive “junk” and knew little about it. New findings, however, are peeling back the odd and baffling world of transposons. Now, researchers at the University of Georgia have just found that natural selection on gene function is driving the evolution of one kind of transposable element called the LTR retrotransposon. (LTR refers to the “long terminal repeat”—a repetition of a recognizable sequence of nucleotides, the chemical bases that make up strands of DNA.)
More real science at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081210121922.htm
If there’s one thing the Republicans like it’s cheap, foreign labor taking away jobs from Americans. Bush wants to make it easier for foreigners to come in while unemployment in America is in double digits. There we have the Republican solution to bad economic times, increase unemployment.
Administration changes to farm worker hiring afoot
WASHINGTON (AP) — As it prepares to leave office, the Bush administration is moving to make it easier for U.S. farming companies to hire foreign field workers, which farmworker groups say will worsen wages and working conditions.
Farm groups said that changes to the H2A visa program, used by the agriculture industry to hire temporary farm workers, were posted on the Labor Department’s Web site at midnight Tuesday but have since been taken down.
More at:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IMMIGRATION_FARM_WORKERS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
“Bush wants to make it easier for foreigners to come in while unemployment in America is in double digits..”
Are we in double digits unemployment? Please provide the source. I had not seen that.
But this is one of those you are darned if you do, or darned if you don’t.
Lib’s WANT compassion for the illegal immigrants working to pick our lettuce. Libs WANT to provide HEALTHCARE and benefits (school/eduction) to illegal immigrants who are already here.
Many of us argue that will only attract MORE illegal workers. Others also are concerned about rewarding criminal (illegal) activity.
But many realize, that Americans need SOMEone to harvest our labor intensive crops like lettuce.
By increasing the number of foreign workers ALLOWED to work LEGALLY in this country, to do the jobs AMERICANS will not do – you somehow magically reduce the number of NEW illegal workers coming to America.
And you SOMEhow are providing compassion to those poor, poor, illegal criminal souls.
Make up your minds!
“Libs WANT to provide HEALTHCARE and benefits (school/eduction) to illegal immigrants who are already here.”
Please dont confuse children born here, who have illegal parents. Those children of illegals BORN here have all the rights of OUR children born here…. How often that gets twisted…. tsk tsk….
“By increasing the number of foreign workers ALLOWED to work LEGALLY in this country, to do the jobs AMERICANS will not do”
There are no jobs that Americans “will not do”. There IS no shortage of greedy employers who seek to pay people poorly and treat them badly for fun and profit.
My only regret that John McCain did not win?
I was hoping he was gonna tell us more about those 40 dollar an hour lettuce picking jobs he said Americans would not take.
Blame your love handles and belly fat on Mom and Dad
Gene ‘triggers unhealthy eating’
Children with the gene chose more fatty, sugary foods
People who carry a gene variant linked to obesity eat an average of 100 extra calories per meal, research suggests.
The New England Journal of Medicine study, by the University of Dundee, carried out eating tests on 100 children aged four to 10.
Those with the gene variant chose foods with more sugar and fat, suggesting they were instinctively drawn to them rather than healthy options.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7773146.stm
My compliments to the Wichita Eagle and their new Kansas.com Website.
Better organized and much easier to find articles.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20070820/obesity-virus-more-bigger-fat-cells
Partial quote
Worth repeating (thanks boxlock for sharing):
Bad news people – it’s coming whether we like it or not
The newly elected Messiah really doesn’t have a magic wand big
enough to “make it all go away” I laughed as I heard Obama “reeling it back
in” almost immediately after the vote count was tallied.”we might not do it
in a year.or in four.” where was that kind of talk when he was RUNNING for
the office
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/claims-about-autoworker-salaries-are-misleading/#comment-482144
“Please dont confuse children born here, who have illegal parents”
Please don’t confuse what I posted with anything bouncing off the walls of your empty brain housing group.
No this liberal is against foreign labor taking our jobs. This liberal is against allowing foreigners here to have anchor babies in the first place.
I think those who have it so bad in Mexico need to go home and fix their own country. I’m more than willing to help them do that.
Asylum is fine, but Mexico doesn’t count as a country one needs asylum from.
Snow in Houston early record set. Where’s Al Gore, he is usually around when the snow flies? Global cooling is here.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6156862.html
“The Americans With No Abilities Act (AWNAA)
Washington, DC – Congress is considering sweeping
legislation that will provide new benefits for many Americans.
The Americans With No Abilities Act (AWNAA) is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of the millions of Americans wholack any real skills or ambition.
There you go BlueJay sounds like this was written by you and for you.
‘Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society,’ said California Senator Barbara Boxer.
‘We can no longer stand by and allow People of inability to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are doing.’
In a Capitol Hill press conference, House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. Approximately 74 percent of postal employees lack any job skills, making this agencythe single largest U.S. employer of Persons of Inability.
Private-sector industries with good records of non-discrimination against the Inept include retail sales (72%), the airline industry (68%), and home improvement ‘warehouse’ stores (65%). At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons of Inability (63%).
Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million ‘middle man’ positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance.
Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given so as to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable
employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability into middle-management positions, and gives a tax credit to small and medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two talented hires.
Finally, the AWNAA contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the Non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions such as, ‘Do you have any skills or experience that relate to this job?’
‘As a Non-abled person, I can’t be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them,’ said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, Michigan, dueto her inability to remember rightey tightey, lefty loosey. ‘This new law should be real good for people like me,’ Gertz added. With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.
Said Senator Dick Durban (D-IL): ‘As a Senato with no abilities, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be extended to every American with no abilities. It is our
duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her adequacy, with some sort of space to take up in
this great nation and a good salary for doing so.”
Report: Obama to Offer Israel ‘Nuclear Umbrella’ Against Iran
U.S. president-elect will offer Israel a strategic pact designed to fend off any nuclear attack on the Jewish state by Iran, an Israeli newspaper reports.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/12/11/report-obama-offer-israel-nuclear-umbrella-iran/
American with no abilities act?
Hell bawks, you SELL stuff. And it aint even your stuff!
You’re a step just below a hooker. At least a hooker has skin in the game.
Morning. Almost to the weekend. :)
I’m so happy to see that the Eagle is going to allow internet subscriptions to the newspaper! Horray! I’ll be signing up tomorrow!
I do have a question though, will ads be included? Because I belong to another one that the ads were excluded.
Ah George…please refrain from comparing local weather to global climate discussions…localized weather change especially over a small amount of time (i.e. a day) has no meaning in terms of large scale climate. Thanks.
“The newly elected Messiah really doesn’t have a magic wand big
enough to “make it all go away” I laughed as I heard Obama “reeling it back” – another shithead
The magic wand would have been not to have elected Bush in the first place. We told you so.
650 INJURY accidents in less than two inches of snow? Are you all stupid? Do you realize that your vehicles still crash on ice no matter how big they are? Slow down morons.
Obama wants to protect Israel with nukes.
That’s got to chap your lib asses, eh?
Obama is NOT going to stop the bush tax cuts.
That’s got to chap your lib asses, eh?
Ohhhh nooooh!
Bush admits that the “Bible is not literally true.”
WASHINGTON —
Interviewer Cynthia McFadden asked Bush if the Bible was literally true.
“You know. Probably not. … No, I’m not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it, but I do think that the New Testament for example is … has got … You know, the important lesson is ‘God sent a son,”‘ Bush said.
http://christianpost.com/article/20081209/bush-not-a-bible-literalist-talks-of-belief-in-god.htm
Poor Nathan must be crying in his beer . . . if he could drink beer.
Obama has NOT indicated he will rule like a leftist psychopath.
That’s got to chap your lib asses, eh?
Iran thinks Obama is another Bush!
That’s got to chap your lib asses, eh?
WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama has selected a deputy mayor of Los Angeles to lead the White House Council on Environmental Quality, transition officials said Wednesday.
Nancy Sutley is the first prominent member of the gay and lesbian community to earn a senior role in the Democrat’s new administration.
Political_mama
Posted December 11, 2008 at 8:25 am | Permalink
I’m so happy to see that the Eagle is going to allow internet subscriptions to the newspaper! Horray! I’ll be signing up tomorrow!
I do have a question though, will ads be included? Because I belong to another one that the ads were excluded.
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Does that mean we have to pay just to post here now?
“no matter how big they are? ”
Lol. It always bugs me when I’m driving my little car slow and steady – only to have a big 4WD SUV or Pick-em-up truck flashing it’s lights come up behind me.
I enjoy driving my little Honda Civic past the big four wheel drive SUV’s in the ditch. I usually honk and wave with a big smile on my face.
Oh no my butt…is chapped. LOL! J/K All we can do is see what happens.
ANTI–
The fact that you hate Obama is all we have to know that he’ll be a great President.
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CapnAmerica
Posted December 11, 2008 at 8:37 am | Permalink
WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama has selected a deputy mayor of Los Angeles to lead the White House Council on Environmental Quality, transition officials said Wednesday.
Nancy Sutley is the first prominent member of the gay and lesbian community to earn a senior role in the Democrat’s new administration.
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Why is the fact that she gay news worthy?
Are you holding on to some prejudice there Crapn?
CapnAmerica
Posted December 11, 2008 at 8:43 am | Permalink
ANTI–
The fact that you hate Obama is all we have to know that he’ll be a great President.
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I don’t hate Obama.
I’m starting to like the guy.
I wonder when Obama will start wearing the stove-pipe hat and wearing three piece suits from the mid 19th century?
Perhaps a beard and public log splitting is in order.
P-Mom–
When I drove home from work Tuesday night, the roads were as bad in Wichita as I have ever seen them.
The City had done absolutely nothing, so the snow had packed hard and frozen into solid ice.
Going downhill, my brakes had zero effect. I stayed close to the curb in case I had to turn into it to stop. No one was going more than about 15-20 mph. Even at that speed, I slid through an intersection on a red light.
If the City isn’t going to keep the roads clear, then we should just shut down.
“Perhaps a beard and public log splitting is in order.”
Regular No! No! No! No!
Obama has already “achieved” greatness!!!!!
Don’t you get it?!?!!!
He need not prove anything. That’s what being “godlike” is all about.
ANTI writes, I don’t hate Obama.
I’m starting to like the guy.
*****
Now THAT chaps my ass . . .
Embrace the respect I have for Obama, Capn’A.
Together we can dance in the meadows of Change near the trickling brook of Hope!
When we are tired from rejoicing in the name of Obama, you can give me 33% of your income. It’s only fair.
Now THAT chaps my ass . . .
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ROFLMA
“650 INJURY accidents in less than two inches of snow? Are you all stupid? Do you realize that your vehicles still crash on ice no matter how big they are? Slow down morons.” — P.M.
It was more like 50 injury accidents. You’re reading with hysteria-vision as usual.
Here’s something to chew on. Obama may be up to his A$$ in this. Will we see impeachment proceedings in his first year?
Blago’s wife was the real estate agent in the Rezco-Obama deal.
I see Obama’s paid bloggers are out in force.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/Blagojevich_questions_censored_on_Transition_site.html?showall
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/11/america/11fallout.php
Seriously, I want my 33%.
“Early discussions are on-going, but the preliminary plan involves reducing the size of the Lincoln Memorial on the crowded National Mall and placing the Obama Memorial where the present long steps leading up to the Lincoln Memorial exist.
Disagreement exists on the proper elevation of the Obama Bust. Early designs have the Obama Bust roughly 22 feet high. This is almost four times real life size. Opponents argue that the height of the Lincoln Statue is only 19 feet – three times life size.
With the Obama Statue positioned where the north steps are facing north, the Lincoln statue would no longer be visible from the Mall.
Supporters of the Obama Memorial say compromise is likely, and all sides agee that no one wants to deminish the appearance of the Lincoln Memorial.” AMWAY.COM
Who Needs the Big 3? Atlanta Company Plans New Police Car
“You think about Knight Rider and all these fictional characters,” said William Santana Li, chairman and CEO of the Atlanta-based Carbon Motors Corporation. “This car is actually real.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465329,00.html
dublin keep wishin’ LOL
Rezco=Rezko
I was going to give BJ a chance to comment but… what the hell?
Look at all the Republicans scrambling for something/anything on Obama.
Must suck to be a cockroach like them.
Keep it up guys…you won’t be here much longer.
davos keep sweatin’ lmao
ANTI- That thing need lasers mounted on the top. It almost looks like the blincker could be some type of ray… We could hire Sly Stallone to be a real cop too. ;)
More on the Obama Memorial:
“The Obama Memorial Group (OMG) announced today that the steps removed from the north face of the Lincoln Memorial, which are being removed to make room for the Obama Memorial, will be preserved for the public. Controversy erupted during early planning when the OMG leaked the plan to remove the steps.
OMG now plans to preserve the steps on which MLK made his famous “I Had A Dream” speech. Plans are underway to determine an appropriate location on the National Mall to set the steps – but only the portion where MLK actually stood. An area near the 14th St Bridge is among choices being reviewed.
I am actually quite cool…dub. Thanks anyway.
donndublin the chief sock cockroach is licking the toilet again.
Perhaps the many nic’d donndublin will be the first to go.
Obama’s black ops copters are on their way putrid roach boy
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mxyzptlk
Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:03 am | Permalink
Look at all the Republicans scrambling for something/anything on Obama.
Must suck to be a cockroach like them.
Keep it up guys…you won’t be here much longer.
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What would the paid bloggers do if we went away?
Maybe thrown under the bus.
“Keep it up guys…you won’t be here much longer.”
Where will we be going?
I thought democrats were the party of inclusion?
DonDy–
So I am now responsible for my real estate agent’s husband does?
You were better off with that Ayers guy . . . the guilt-by-association was only ridiculous instead completely ridiculous.
mxyzptlk,
Hey BJ, I see you have another nic. You must have more nics than carter has pills.
“New claims for jobless benefits rose more than expected last week,…”
That’s weird. Usually they are spot on.
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CapnAmerica
Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:09 am | Permalink
You were better off with that Ayers guy . . . the guilt-by-association was only ridiculous (but) instead completely ridiculous.
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Slow down crapon, Your beginning to slur your sentences.
How else does one get to the top of the sh*t pile? He’s got to kiss a few A$$’s.
donndublin crawling across the floor looking for his putrid scrap to eat
donndublin the Republican cockroach of the year
Sorry to disappoint you but I’m a registered Libertarian. Bash on Libertarian day must be some other day.
donndublin is craptor?
Nope, I just have the one nic okie.
Hey I’ve seen enough. And I was never in love with Obama anyway. He shapes his self up or he gets the hook. We already DID Republican lite with Bill Clinton.
Freak beber, if you read farther down the article it said the numbers didn’t include fender benders.
I don’t know what anti is screaming about. Libs are happy with President Obama so far. You’re the ones who kept saying he was so far left, we knew better.
I’ve got to travel today do some research on a proposed new wind generator plant. I’d tell you more about it but then I’d have to kill you.
You libs will have to wait till later to continue your blood sucking.
PMom, I know you keep current and informed, but wondered if you’d seen this?
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Rice researchers say they’ve discovered clue to roots of epilepsy, autism
http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou081208_mh_rice_epilepsy_autism.436e64ba.html
Yes I had read about that in a different article. There is a long long long way from this research to it being proven certainly that this is what is causing the neurological disorders and increases in the disorders. It is worthwhile to study however, and I hope they can move quickly.
It could be that they’re also just trying to pick up some funding.
U.S. President-elect Barack Obama’s administration will offer Israel a “nuclear umbrella” against the threat of a nuclear attack by Iran, a well-placed American source said earlier this week. The source, who is close to the new administration, said the U.S. will declare that an attack on Israel by Tehran would result in a devastating U.S. nuclear response against Iran . . .
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1045687.html
WOW !! WHAT LEADERSHIP — Only AFTER Israel has been totally wiped off the map — will Iran get theirs — I suppose the Jews can finally relax — Has Obama stated that a nuclear weaponized Iran is unacceptable ???? — if he has – I haven’t heard it ———– please keep in mind that according to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad – “peaceful purposes” means no Jews
http://www.memritv.org/search/en/results/0/0/0/0/2/60/0/0/0.htm?k=Ahmadinejad&bAdvSearch=false
I know there are “bad apples” in every profession and every walk of life, but I’ve never met a scientist who found anything more important than scientific discovery. It’s the new questions that keep them going, the unexpected discoveries that intrigue. There may be money people someplace in the network and there may be unethical scientists, but don’t color the whole of science with the same crayon.
BlueJay
Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:30 am | Permalink
Nope, I just have the one nic okie.
Now, Now, BlueJay, you don’t want to tell a lie. You want a lump of coal for XMAS?
I have your admission to posting as “JM”
Remember, he is checking his list
and checking it twice…..
donndublin
Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink
mxyzptlk, “Hey BJ, I”
Me thinks mxyzpt=Chas
His posts are similiar to Chas and his other NIC’s (e.g. SquarePeg, KandiNathan).
“Only AFTER Israel has been totally wiped off the map — will Iran get theirs —”
Obama is talking some very dangerous stuff, and is too stupid to realize it.
He is offering Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) a concept which worked against the Soviet Union during the cold war.
This logic worked with rational human beings. Simply put, You blow me up – you are for sure getting blown up too.
This logic does NOT work against religious zealots who have sworn to die a martyr to destroy Israel.
Simply put, You blow me up – you are going to heaven and getting to screw 72 virgins.
Ahmadinejad has stated that he is willing to sacrifice 2/3rds of the Iranian people inorder to wipe-out the “Zionist entity” — and the neo-libs claim that G W Bush is a mad-man — LOL
Victory!
Score another one for workers organized in their collective interest instead of at each other’s throats.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/10/illinois.labor.protest/index.html
Okay, you scientific minded types, has Blacklight solved the futures energy problems, by getting energy from water?
http://www.blacklightpower.com/applications.shtml
Did you all see this?
The Obama Government has announced it is changing the national emblem from the Eagle to the Condom because it more accurately reflects the new governments stance:
A condom allows for inflation
Halts production,
Destroys the next generation,
Protects a bunch of pricks,
And all the while provides you with a sense of security while you are getting screwed.
“72 virgins” ??? that was a Quranic mis-translation — it actually says: “Virginians” — ie: Deliverance
SAN FRANCISCO — A daylong work stoppage during which employees were encouraged to “call in gay” to express support for same-sex marriage drew spotty participation nationwide Wednesday, with some gay rights activists praising the concept but questioning its effect.
No one cared?
(sniffle, sniffle)
I thought Deliverance setting was a remote Georgia river?
Most important to remember is if you hear banjos, paddle faster.
OK — how about nuns with shotguns — he he !!
them blown-up Islamics sure got perdy mouths – heh !
Sounds applicable to the BUSH administration now doesn’t it Amway.
The 10 Worst Predictions for 2008
Prognostication is by far the riskiest form of punditry. The 10 commentators and leaders on this list learned that the hard way when their confident predictions about politics, war, the economy, and even the end of humanity itself completely missed the mark.
1. William Kristol (Dec. 2006) said Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee
2. Jim Cramer (March 2008): “Bear Stearns is fine”
3. Kenneth Blair & Kenneth Lieberthal (May/June 2007): “Tankers are much less vulnerable than conventional wisdom holds”
4. Donald Luskin (Sept. 2008): “Anyone who says we’re in a recession … is making up his own private defintion of recession”
5. The Economist (Dec. 2007): “For all its flaws, an example to others” (on Kenya’s election where 800 were killed)
6. BusinessWeek (Jan. 2008): “Mayor Michael Bloomberg will enter the presidential race in February”
7. Walter Wagner argued that turning on CERN’s large hadron collider would swallow up the earth (it didn’t)
8. Arjun Murti (May 2008): “The possibility of $150-$200 per barrel seems increasingly likely”
9. Charles Krauthammer (Aug. 2008) said Russia would replace the government of Georgia
10. Henry Paulson (Nov. 2008): “I believe the banking system has been stabilized”
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4569&print=1
Oh I didn’t mean at all that sentence in a negative light Linda. Not at all. I hope they get a grant to move forward. Obviously they have to have money coming in to do research and I support that. However it was a very first step in linking what they found to autism. So the link is loose at best. I’m not against funding for it at all, nor did I mean to imply that they were saying there could be a link for unethical purposes.
Re. my earlier Blacklight tech. post, most scientist say it’d defy quantum physics, on the other hand they are said to have a prototype producing 50 kw, and plan to build a 250 kw powerplant.
The Economic Crisis
Capitalist Fools
Behind the debate over remaking U.S. financial policy will be a debate over who’s to blame. It’s crucial to get the history right, writes a Nobel-laureate economist, identifying five key mistakes—under Reagan, Clinton, and Bush II—and one national delusion.
1. Pres. Reagan replaced pro-regulation Fed chairman Paul Volcker with anti-regulation Alan Greenspan
2. The Glass-Steagall act was repealed, eliminating banking safeguards
3. Tax cuts and low interest rates masked all the warning signs
4. The rating agencies gave good grades to companies in deep trouble
5. The administration’s “cash for trash” bailout plan was a disaster
http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2009/01/stiglitz200901
Phantom
“has Blacklight solved the futures energy problems, by getting energy from water?”
Not my area of expertise but…
Many people have found catalysts to help in the release of hydrogen from water with less energy.
The rub is always in “how much does the catalyst cost?”
One example is that raw aluminum without the additives the mill adds to reduce corrosion will dramatically release hydrogen from water. The problem? Aluminum aint cheap.
The laws of physics can be a bitch.
They said on the news it’d cost 1 to 2 cents per kw, I believe!
kwh
having read the Blagojavech transcript, I’ve considered this case phoney from the beginning. Here is just one more bit of evidence that indicates I am right:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Tribunes-Zell-FBI-contacted-apf-13806364.html
My alternate scenario is Blaggo is like Regular, that is a serial fibber with moments of poor lucidity and Harris played along with him. What matters is the entire context of how he was going about appointing a U.S. Senator. Let’s say there are a whole bunch of conversations about the subject which were completely normal, and a few dozen incriminating ones. The FBI admitted as much in the complaint. They have also nearly admitted the destruction of exculpatory evidence.
And by the way; there is certainly nothing new about politicians trying to get journalists fired. It happens every day. It’s how a reporter knows he’s on the right track.
As for the remaining matter, all depends on the testimony of Rezko, (whatever), and he has every reason to lie.
Phantom
That would be a dramatic find indeed.
BlueJay
Posted December 11, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink
Victory!
Score another one for workers organized in their collective interest instead of at each other’s throats.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/10/illinois.labor.protest/index.html
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BIG VICTORY! All 200 workers are still fired!
If Fitzgerald actually had a conspiracy, don’t you think he would have kept the matter under wraps until more big fish were landed? It’s b.s. folks, though I can’t guess the motive, unless Fitz merely wan’ts to make it difficult for Obama to replace him. Remember, this prosecutor has failed to land big fish before.
Correction:
240 Workers are still FIRED!
And how’s the UAW settlement working out with the Auto Makers?
How many cuts are the Union autoworkers taking? How many are losing their jobs? Losing their pensions? Losing their healthcare?
Yeah that UAW is really protecting its people.
Lovely First Lady of Illinois:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/11/patti-blagojevichs-family-rallies-defense/
“Hold up that (expletive) Cubs (expletive),” she says as her husband is talking on the telephone. “(Expletive) them.”
Patricia Blagojevich’s family acknowledged the harsh language contained on the recordings but said those words were uttered at a stressful time as both she and her husband were under federal scrutiny.
Union official Carl Rosen said the average worker will receive about $6,000 under the package.
So now the company will go bankrupt and they will all lose their jobs.
Amazing victory Blew Jay.
Regular posted December 11, 2008 at 7:38 am, ‘Open 12/10′
Ah!
You see cosmos cannot name any acid oceans, because there aren’t any.
You see folks, climate alarmist love to use catch phrases like ocean acidification.
Those who know your basic science know that pH above 8.0 is not acidic, it is mild on the alkaline side like baking soda as I described earlier.
If oceans were acidic, fish and other ocean life would be dieing in masses. They aren’t.
Let the arm flailing continue by the alarmists.
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Regular,
You seem unable to understand that the very widely used phrase “ocean acidification” means “the ocean is becoming less alkaline”.
Perhaps you should devote your life to convincing the world to use “becoming less alkaline” instead of “acidification”?
You can start by contacting the people at these 2 links.
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/11/25/ocean-acidity-02.html
http://www.ocean-acidification.net/
Good luck.
Homeland Seurity?
Cleaning Firm Used Illegal Workers at Chertoff Home
By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 11, 2008; Page A01
Every few weeks for nearly four years, the Secret Service screened the IDs of employees for a Maryland cleaning company before they entered the house of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, the nation’s top immigration official.
The company’s owner says the workers sailed through the checks — although some of them turned out to be illegal immigrants.
Now, owner James D. Reid finds himself in a predicament that he considers especially confounding. In October, he was fined $22,880 after U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement investigators said he failed to check identification and work documents and fill out required I-9 verification forms for employees, five of whom he said were part of crews sent to Chertoff’s home and whom ICE told him to fire because they were undocumented.
“Our people need to know,” said the Montgomery County businessman. “Our Homeland Security can’t police their own home. How can they police our borders?”
BTW, aren’t those “union brothers” working for “tha man”? Thought you hated people who “worked for tha man”. Changing your tune?
Can you imaagine the conversations in the Blago family home?
Mr Blago “Where’s my phuckin dinner?”
Mrs Blago “Get your own phuckin dinner?”
Daughter Annie and and Amy chime in too.
“But Daddy”, Annie says, “I”m phuckin starving!”
Amy adds, “Daddy, can we go to McDonalds? We haven’t been there for a phuckin long time!”
So they go to McDonalds.
Mr Blago orders, “I’ll have phuckin #1 with a coke.”
Mrs Blago orders, “I’ll have a phuckin #4 with a diet Sprite.”
Annie orders, “I’ll have a phuckin kids meal with a phuckin toy. What’s the phuckin toy?”
Amy says, “You don’t need a phuckin toy, just kid a #3. I’ll have a phuckin #7 with a phuckin milkshake. Chocolate.”
SolDevVB
Posted December 11, 2008 at 10:53 am | Permalink
BTW, aren’t those “union brothers” working for “tha man”? Thought you hated people who “worked for tha man”. Changing your tune?
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Sure they are! And they are tellin THE MAN how to run his factory.
Look at how that turned out.
American_Way
Posted December 11, 2008 at 10:07 am | Permalink
SAN FRANCISCO — A daylong work stoppage during which employees were encouraged to “call in gay” to express support for same-sex marriage drew spotty participation nationwide Wednesday, with some gay rights activists praising the concept but questioning its effect.
No one cared?
(sniffle, sniffle)
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No one noticed they were gone?
Not too many of em then.
A hint of what the upcoming report contains:
“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” – Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.
“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” – Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”
Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” – UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.
“The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” – Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.
“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC “are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” – Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico
“It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” – U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.
“Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.
“After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri’s asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it’s hard to remain quiet.” – Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society’s Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.
“For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?” – Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.
“Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” – Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.
“Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” – Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.
“Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” – Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.
“CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” – Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.
“The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” – Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata. # #
In addition, the report will feature new peer-reviewed scientific studies and analyses refuting man-made warming fears and a heavy dose of inconvenient climate developments. (See Below: Study: Half of warming due to Sun! –Sea Levels Fail to Rise? – Warming Fears in ‘Dustbin of History’)
The Senate Minority Report is an update of 2007’s blockbuster U.S. Senate Minority Report of over 400 dissenting scientists. See here: This new report will contain the names, quotes and analyses of literally hundreds of additional international scientists who publicly dissented from man-made climate fears in just 2008 alone. The chorus of scientific voices skeptical grow louder as a steady stream of peer-reviewed studies, analyses and real world data challenge the UN and former Vice President Al Gore’s claims that the “science is settled” and there is a “consensus.” The original 2007 U.S. Senate report is available here: Full Report Set To Be Released in the Next 24 Hours – Stay Tuned…
Say on that Obama statue, couldn’t they just build an Obama statue, about the same size as the Washington Monument, and the Obama statue could be standing up and leaning against the monument, lookin down on the rest of us.
Heckler posted December 11, 2008 at 11:05 am
The Senate Minority Report is an update of 2007’s blockbuster U.S. Senate Minority Report of over 400 dissenting scientists.
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LOL! You AGW deniers are really desperate, and clueless. You just keep using the same old garbage.
http://debunking.pbwiki.com/Inhofe
paddle faster….
Now that was funny……..
The Repub icon, Vitter is on the news talking against the auto rescue bill. I think many repubs see this as a once in a lifetime chance to bust the UAW, and will block any bill that doesn’t do that.
JimJohnson
Posted December 11, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink
Say on that Obama statue, couldn’t they just build an Obama statue, about the same size as the Washington Monument, and the Obama statue could be standing up and leaning against the monument, lookin down on the rest of us.
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You all planning on shooting Obama with one of your many high powered weapons??? It sure sounds like it, since you cant put up a monument to living people…. You all might want to watch what you post… DHS might be watching….
and the helpless cosmos still can’t refute what the scientists stated in heckler’s post.
You really are getting pathetic cosmos.
You all planning on shooting Obama with one of your many high powered weapons???
Loosen the tinfoil. It has cut off circulation to the two living brain cells you have left.
Remember chas, one glass of koolaid per person per day. You’ve dipped at the trough far too often.
SolDevVB posted December 11, 2008 at 11:24 am
and the helpless cosmos still can’t refute what the scientists stated in heckler’s post.
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They’re not all scientists, and those that are probably aren’t active in climate science — same as the earlier 400 list.
http://debunking.pbwiki.com/Inhofe
JimJohnson
Posted December 11, 2008 at 11:04 am | Permalink
American_Way
Posted December 11, 2008 at 10:07 am | Permalink
SAN FRANCISCO — A daylong work stoppage during which employees were encouraged to “call in gay” to express support for same-sex marriage drew spotty participation nationwide Wednesday, with some gay rights activists praising the concept but questioning its effect.
No one cared?
(sniffle, sniffle)
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No one noticed they were gone?
Not too many of em then.
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Lot’s of people work in the big building I work in. I didn’t notice any fewer people on the elevators. Certainly no one missing in my department. We have a help desk which is maintained for customers nationally and internationally. Business as usual in that department. Traffic on the highways was the usual rush hour. In fact, I didn’t hear one person talking about the “call in gay”.
Certainly no one noticed here.
“You all might want to watch what you post… DHS might be watching….”
Blewjay you might want to watch what you post..everyone already knows your lack of brain activity.
thank you for proving my point cosmos. simply pathetic.
JimJohnson
Posted December 11, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink
Say on that Obama statue, couldn’t they just build an Obama statue, about the same size as the Washington Monument, and the Obama statue could be standing up and leaning against the monument, lookin down on the rest of us.
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Maybe smoking a Kool Filter King? Help promote another great American industry.
Hey bro lemme hole fifty cent.
Can I cop a kool bro?
Someone should axe Obama what brand he be smokin’.
Cher has volunteered to sing at the inaugural ball
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pdvd_151.jpg
Someone should axe Obama
chas just called DHS. (After he $hit himself)
SolDevVB,
What’s “pathetic” is your stupid insistence that mere opinions from unqualified people = scientific methodology.
Cosmos
I didnt put forth the opinions of Inhofe. I put forthe the opinions of SCIENTISTS. Refute them. If you can.
Lets forget for a moment that we are in a cooling period.- What PROOF do you have that human generated CO2 emissions have the ability to cause the planet to warm?(and please don’t confuse “evidence” with PROOF).
But that’s o.k., because Johnny Mandel has volunteered to sing at Bush’s farewell BBQ:
http://www.geocities.com/~cheshyre/Song.htm
“You all might want to watch what you post… DHS might be watching….”
Blewjay you might want to watch what you post..everyone already knows your lack of brain activity.”
SWING and a miss.
I didn’t post that, goat herder.
“You AGW deniers are really desperate, and clueless.”
Copy copy copy paste paste paste
insult
fap
wash hands
repeat ad infitum et boringus
donndublin
Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:29 am | Permalink
Sorry to disappoint you but I’m a registered Libertarian. Bash on Libertarian day must be some other day.
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Wrong, Donn…. Bash on Libertrian Day is ANY day Libertarians post TRASH…. LOL
cosmos_originally
Posted December 11, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink
SolDevVB,
What’s “pathetic” is your stupid insistence that mere opinions from unqualified people = scientific methodology.
- Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.
Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA
- UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.
Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.
U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.
– . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.
- Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society’s Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.
- Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.
LMFAO
Pa
The
Tic.
Cosmos
To quote Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden
“For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?” -
American_Way
Posted December 11, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink
Hey bro lemme hole fifty cent.
Can I cop a kool bro?
Someone should axe Obama what brand he be smokin’.
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My my…. how absolutely RACIST of you… I see you are showing your true colors yet again!!
Their president: George W. Bush
Our president: Barack H. Obama
Yeah. No wonder they’re so pissy . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdCrZfTkG1c
CUE POWER ROCK CHORDS–
We are the champ-ions, my friends
And we’ll keep on FIGHTING, till the end.
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS, WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
No time for losers
For we are the CHAMPIONS, OF THE WORLD.
Libertarians . . . like CONservatives except even fruit-cakier.
ANYONE while Cosmos collects his thoughts-
What PROOF do you have that human generated CO2 emissions have the ability to cause the planet to warm?(and please don’t confuse “evidence” with PROOF).
Libertarians . . . like CONservatives except even fruit-cakier.
God forbid we run our government like the founders. God forbid we follow the constitution.
Like capn spews so often, we should model after China and Europe. Constitution be damned. Bring on socialism.
Dumbass.
Still awfully quiet-
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/512/
Heckler,
Here is a graph the alarmists don’t like. See how CO2 chases temperature? See the pretty pattern of warming and cooling? See, on the right hand of the chart, how CO2 goes off the chart while temps settle and/or drop?
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=41&tstamp=200709
Libertarian–now in a fresh new package: the Bob Nut Barr. Same old stuff, but more of the fruity nuttiness you’ve come to expect . . .
heckler – it is well known that CO2 (and CH4) absorbs in the IR range. This, in turn, helps keep energy (heat) from escaping into space by radiation. Thus increasing CO2 (and other IR absorbers) will increase T.
Now heckler,
Surely you don’t think the sun has anything to do with the climate on Earth. How naive.
So the socialism remarks stand. All you have is ad hominem. Gotcha.
Ben,
What is funny is that the chart I just posted, I got from you. CO2 is off the chart and temps don’t follow. Seems to me what you have looks good on paper, but reality has called your bluff.
Sol – we have absolutely no problem whatsoever with that graph. We KNOW that in previous cycles T preceeded CO2; we also observe that in today’s excursion beyond the cyclical envelope CO2 has precceded T.
The previous cycles (Milankovitch) were triggered by very subtle changes in the distribution of solar insolation; CO2 then amplified it via positive feedback. Today’s excursion outside the cyclical range has been triggered by anthropogenic CO2.
We scientists who have looked at the data are not surprised by these observations.
Having been familiar with Inhofe since his days as mayor of Tulsa, I can tell you the man is a full-on loon. He has no credibility.
If there’s a really a groundswell of scientific opposition to the current consensus, it shouldn’t be difficult to find the information from less suspect sources.
Of course, I undertand the tactic: produce a list of “scientists” (some of whom may actually be scientists), snag a skeptical quote, and produce a list somehow “proving” deep skepticism in the scientific community. Then the other person is supposed to waste time googling for the hard facts, doing what you should have done in the first place. But, of course, that won’t happen, because even scientists who do the relevant research tend to address specific questions in tentative terms, rather than joining in on this stupid global warming conspiracy meme.
The fact that you guys can’t come up with anything better than that says quite a bit.
No Sol, reality has not called my bluff. As would be expected there is a lag time with T.
Because calling some a “socialist” is not ad homenim, eh Sollie?
Okay, “robber baron.”
If you look at the chart, Ben, you will see CO2 well off the chart with temps falling off. If CO2 were the boogyman the alarmist claim it to be, we should be at 451 F right now. Doesn’t pass the logic test. With that massive leap of CO2, and if CO2 is the major contributor, how can you explain the temp drop off?
Sol – one of the reasons I studied PALEOclimatology was to understand the OLD cycles. That gave me a foundation for looking at what is going on today. That is why you see so many paleoclimatologists looking at ‘futureclimatology.’ We use all that old information to develop an understanding of underlying mechanisms. That is why I strongly recommend a god paleoclimatology class to anyone interested in this issue. Looking at past cycles removes the politics – obviously dinosaurs did not drive SUVs.
The ‘temp drop off’ has stopped. Such a drop would have been expected to continue (slowly) due to orbital factors. Instead, temps are rising as noted here:
“October 2008 came the closest–it was the 2nd warmest October for the the globe on record, according to statistics released by the National Climatic Data Center. These statistics have been corrected for a widely reported error that was discovered earlier this month. Over land areas, it was the warmest October on record. The period January through October was the 9th warmest such period on record. Records extend back 129 years, to 1880″
http://www.wunderground.com/climate/
Question: have you ever studied WHY and HOW these previous cycles took place?
capn,
Your posts expose you. You marvel at the European and Chinese government. You espouse socialism at every turn. Don’t be afraid of what you are. Right or wrong, it is who you are.
If my Libertarian leanings mark me as a robber baron, then those are the philosophies that founded this great nation. How can you stand to live in a country founded by robber barons?
LOL
Sol attempts to equate himself with the intelligence of the Founders…
LOL Thanks Sol, I needed a good laugh today!!
A better view of just the past century:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=62&tstamp=200802
I specifically recall Capn very recently noting just how much he disliked living under communism the year he was in China.
bth
“This, in turn, helps keep energy (heat) from escaping into space by radiation. Thus increasing CO2 (and other IR absorbers) will increase T.”
I believe the proper phrase for that statement would be “hypothesis”.
I have repeatedly posted claims by multiple physicists who claim that CO2 is not capable of retaining heat to the extent that the AGW models claim. I’m always met by silence. Maybe you missed them.
I’m looking for your means of “proving” that hypothesis.
no heckler – we scientists know IR absorption rather well.
But as for ‘proving’ it to you – your mind is made up, I wouldn’t want to confuse you with facts.
Chas,
For the mentally unstable (you) my political leanings tend far closer to the founding fathers that the leanings of the GOP and DNC.
Duh.
One glass per day chas.
Global Warming Update: Winter 2008 Coldest in Seven Years
Newsbusters dot org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/03/13/global-warming-update-winter-2008-coldest-seven-years
January 2008 Coldest This Century
Atmoz dot org/blog/2008/02/06/january-2008-coldest-this-century/
2008 Coldest Year of the Decade
Climatechangefraud dot com/content/view/2869/218/
Scientists: 2008 Coldest Winter
Airamerica dot com/blog/2008/oct/09/scientists-2008-coldest-winter
2008 – Coldest Winter Since 2001
gaia.tribe dot net/thread/ddd7afb5-f50a-46ca-8964-cafd3f6a8ec0
RSS Satellite data for Jan08: 2nd coldest January for the planet in 15 years
Wattsupwiththat dot com/2008/02/04/rss-satellite-data-for-jan08-2nd-coldest-january-for-the-planet-in-15-years/
wouldn’t want to confuse you with facts.
So you, too, can’t answer the question.
Sol, if you believe that your views are in line with the Founders, that would seem reason enough for Ben to not waste his time trying to answer your question, which you obviously dont know the answer to….
Ben posted December 11, 2008 at 12:10 pm
We scientists who have looked at the data are not surprised by these observations.
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Hansen and other scientists predicted the CO2 – temperature relationship BEFORE the ice core data was released.
The weak (non-CO2) factors that triggered the warming were insufficient to explain the large amount of warming. CO2, albedo, and other factors were required.
Sol – I cannot “prove” science in a narrow legalistic sense.
Sol – with you I think it would be enjoyable to go through our understanding of the causes of past climate cycles. Then, using that understanding (along with several textbooks I keep as references) go through how it leads us to an understanding of what is happening now.
bth
“no heckler – we scientists know IR absorption rather well. ”
It’s not the ability of the CO2 heavy atmosphere to absorb IR that I doubt Ben. It’s the ability of that absorption to have any real effect on the average temperature of a huge dynamic atmosphere such as the one we live under.
Again, how do you go about proving your hypothesis. Because that is all that it is.
“I see you are showing your true colors yet again!!”
Not at all. No more so than you Chas in some of your remarks about republicans and your “lumping” anyone contra to yourself as one of “them”. (can I see you Tin Foil Hat (TFH)?)
It will be good for America to expose these stereotypes – and hopefully, by example, the half-black/half-caucasian President lead.
It will good for someone people respect to teach people that you don’t axe your government for handouts. You ask them.
It will be good to find out what Barack would put on a job application (if he ever held a job) for race. When you are of mixed origins – which freaking circle to you fill in, or box do you check?
I have to list mine and there are many times it is asked for on forms over and over again.
It will be good to finally remove that checkbox.
It will be good to reconize that you don’t need a month to make your race feel worthwhile. You don’t need a Congressional Black Caucus anymore than you need a white one. That you don’t need a White or Black Entertainment Network to entertain your race.
Even though Obama is not “fully” a black man, it will be good for the nation to be educated on why he is considered black and not white.
There is much good that having a half breed as President will bring in regardes to furthering recognition that our “diverse” nature is really not so diverse.
Much the same will come with our first woman president. The jokes about the female candidates will be followed by recognition of the candidate as a person and on the issues of the day. Not as a woman.
I voted for Obama in the primary, so I must not be too color blind.
Coldest?
“The period January through October was the 9th warmest such period on record. Records extend back 129 years, to 1880.”
http://www.wunderground.com/climate/
heckler – I will get you a list of textbooks to study. If you are in Wichita I will also recommend that you take Paleoclimatology over in the Geology department at WSU.
A side not – if it were NOT for the ability of CO2 to hold heat the planet would be frozen solid.
not = note
lousy typing …
It will be good to find out what Barack would put on a job application (if he ever held a job) for race.
Employers can’t ask that! When did you last hold a job?
That would be the rat race, Rage. The one we’re all in.
Rage
Posted December 11, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink
It will be good to find out what Barack would put on a job application (if he ever held a job) for race.
Employers can’t ask that! When did you last hold a job?
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When did you last apply for a job?
It’s pretty commonplace. It’s always optional. but pretty common.
The pH of the ocean has dropped from about 8.21 to 8.10 since the early 19th century.
pH is on a log scale, don’t forget. So this is a significant increase in acidity.
An increase in acidity results in a decrease in calcification, and increased dissolution of CaCO3. It pushes the equilibrium to the left in the equation I posted a few days ago.
More acidity=less spatial areas in which calcified organisms can live, which means less coral reef and reef-builders. Which, of course, affects the entire ecosystem all the way up to man.
That’s not controversial or subject to dispute. That’s basic chemistry.
What is worth discussing is the level of acidification. It’s important not to extrapolate only from findings based on measurements of pH in areas of upwelling or near development.
Nobody is doing this. Yes, sites like this are being reviewed but the conclusion that acidification is occuring is not based just on that data.
When did you last apply for a job?
It’s pretty commonplace. It’s always optional. but pretty common.
Ah, I see. The EEO form, which is anonymous, and has nothing to do with the job application.
Rage, I hold a job now. I have been asked many times on forms my race. I have read the arguments here on the subject.
Trust me. There are many forms which have your race on them.
If it is illegal: Why does the US Census Bureau also ask?
It all offends me.
darn it, maybe I will just wait until I’m on vacation and in Kansas time next week to try this.
bth
“A side not – if it were NOT for the ability of CO2 to hold heat the planet would be frozen solid.”
Don’t forget all those other greenhouse gasses that have a greater impact than CO2.(those ones we don’t contribute significant amounts to.)
It’s been close to frozen before and will be again. And all of us will be gone, maybe all of our kind will be gone.
Thanks for not bringing up those silly computer models you guys used to offer as proof.
SolDevVB, Heckler, et al. . .
You want to refute the AGW theory?
1) Refute the theory and observations that more “greenhouse” gases cause warming.
2) Refute the theory and observations that aerosols cause cooling.
3) Refute the fact that natural climate forcings alone do NOT explain the observed temperatures since the 1900’s — but natural PLUS anthropogenic forcings DO explain them.
4) Find the unknown natural forcing(s) to replace the anthropogenic forcings, which you claim do not exist, but are required by # 3.
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But you AGW deniers can’t do the above.
So you waste time arguing that Jan. 2008 was cold, Inhofe’s 400 list, attack other people, etc.
On the last census form, I put down “African-European American.” Granted, you have to go back quite a few generations to find my African ancestors, but paleontology tells me that’s where we started!
It’s so stupid. On one hand, the government wants employers and everyone to be color blind.
On the other hand, government bean counters look at our color for statistics. Employers look at color to ensure they are not being bias. (ya gotta know everyones color to do that!)
All stupid.
All stupid.
Only if you ignore the history of race in this country. And there are, in fact, still employers out there who would only hire white people, if they could.
I do hope this is not an issue for the next generation.
Heckler posted December 11, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Don’t forget all those other greenhouse gasses that have a greater impact than CO2.(those ones we don’t contribute significant amounts to.)
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Water vapour has not been “forgotten”. It’s a feedback, driven by the other GHG’s
Colder air can hold less water vapour.
Less CO2 = colder climate = less water vapour = more cooling.
More CO2 = warmer climate = more water vapour = more warming.
AmWay, if you cant see the blatant racism in your own worthless posts, then that pretty much sums up your intelligence…
NOBODY can prove their vote…. And as for the Census, it is not a study of RACE… it is a study of demographics…. Geez!!
Politicians look at color. They draw up voting districts based upon color. Don’t even try to tell me they don’t. Don’t lie and tell me they don’t use demographics of the neighborhoods, cities, counties, states when looking for votes.
Tell me some of those strange shaped voting districts were drawn up without subjective reasoning. Tell me those in power didn’t have a COUNT by race to make those squiggly lines.
I’m moving away from the keyboard so the lighting doesn’t electricute me when it strikes you.
Has any body heard of cyclic climitology?
If interested, Chapter 6 is Palaeoclimate.
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
“Has any body heard of cyclic climitology?”
Are you referring to this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles
http://deschutes.gso.uri.edu/~rutherfo/milankovitch.html
The only way to move beyond race is not to include it anymore on anything.
There will always be racism of some sort as long race information must be tracked for job applicants, as long as there is an NAACP, as long as there is affirmative action, and as long as we allow people to classify themselves for government purposes as ‘anything-American’.
Hansen’s theory 20 years ago and today…
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/HANSEN_AND_CONGRESS.jpg
“DavosRancheros
Posted December 11, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink
Has any body heard of cyclic climitology?”
Isn’t that the week each month when my wife makes me turn up the airconditioner and cries alot?
“still employers out there”
and realtors. Just had that experience in buying retirement property.
And I had the pleasure of military service for a time in my life. Toward the end of that career, in the 1990’s, I did a group PCS move. That’s a move where an entire unit or operational related units relocate to a new location. We all had to move our families.
So as I’m looking up trying to find a good neighborhood to live in (cost,schools,crime,etc…), I thought I’d be the nice guy I am and share what I had plotted out with a fellow Marine. When I showed him the areas we were looking I was excited to tell him some “good” areas. He was another senior enlisted, so I was used to a lack of visible emotion. But he just nodded his head and didn’t say anything. Being friends, I said, “Hey man! What’s wrong? Why are you not excited to review the possibilities I’ve found?”
He replied, “My family has to be a little bit more careful doing this…”
It took a minute to set in.
But eventually it got through my dense head – not until then did it dawn on me. He was black.
And I was embarrassed. For both of us.
There will always be racism of some sort as long race information must be tracked for job applicants, as long as there is an NAACP, as long as there is affirmative action, and as long as we allow people to classify themselves for government purposes as ‘anything-American’.
Wrong. In fact, completely wrong. You’re confusing cause and effect.
The day race will be irrelevant is when it ceases to be a statistically relevant demographic category, when you no longer have consistent correlations between this artificial metric and and compelling causual mechanisms for such disparities.
In short, when skin color no longer has measurable consequences, we will have finally moved beyond race.
Yes that is it Brian! LOL!
Nice graph Sol…is that supposed to show a cooling trend? LOL!
AMway you couldn’t be more right. I have a neice whose father is black, mother white, a nephew whose father is black/native american, mother white, 2 neices and nephew, father black/white, mother white. All are identified as black on census – this isn’t accurate and the way we take census now has become antiquated.
I think a clear distinction needs to be made between
(a) the science of AGW, and
(b) the perception of AGW – and the use of AGW – by non-scientists.
The science
The present empirical evidence strongly indicates that the AGW-hypothesis is wrong; i.e.
1.There is no correlation between the anthropogenic emissions of GHGs and global temperature.
2.Change to atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is observed to follow change to global temperature at all time scales.
3.Recent rise in global temperature has not been induced by rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide
concentrations.
The global temperature fell from 1940 to 1970, rose from 1970 to 1998, and fell from 1998 to the present (i.e. mid-2008). This is 40 years of cooling and 28 years of warming, and global temperature is now similar to that of 1940. But atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration has increased at a near-constant rate and by
more than 30% since 1940.
4.Rise in global temperature has not been induced by increase to anthropogenic emissions of carbon dioxide.
More than 80% of the anthropogenic emissions of carbon dioxide has been since 1940 and the increase to the emissions has been at a compound rate of ~0.4% p.a. throughout that time. But that time has exhibited 40 years of cooling with only 28 years of warming, and global temperature is now similar to that of 1940.
5.The pattern of atmospheric warming predicted by the AGW hypothesis is absent.
The AGW hypothesis predicts most warming of the atmosphere at altitude distant from polar regions.
Radiosonde measurements from weather balloons show slight cooling at altitude distant from polar regions.
The above list provides a complete refutation of the AGW-hypothesis according to the normal rules of science: i.e. Nothing the hypothesis predicts is observed in the empirical data and the opposite of the hypothesis’ predictions is observed in the empirical data.
But politicians and advocates adhere to the hypothesis. They have a variety of motives (i.e. personal financial gain, protection of their career histories and futures, political opportunism, etc.). But support of
science cannot be one such motive because science denies the hypothesis.
Hence, additional scientific information cannot displace the AGW-hypothesis and cannot silence its
advocates (e.g. Hansen). And those advocates are not scientists despite some of them claiming that they are.
Richard S. Courtney DipPhil
IPCC expert reviewer, energy and environmental consultant
United Kingdom
http://www.tech-know.eu/uploads/AGW_hypothesis_disproved.pdf
Wait. . .Brian were you just waxing philosophically?
“has become antiquated.”
Thank-you. I was having a hard time trying to convey my frustration with bean counters.
Do you know what a DipPHil is Sol? Do you understand Science? Are you a scientist?
“when skin color no longer has measurable consequences”
Can I say, “you can’t get there from here?”
I mean. How do you know when you can stop measuring?
You to measure to identify consequence.
You have to measure to identify consequence.
“You marvel at the European and Chinese government.”
I said I lived in China. Nowhere nohow did I ever marvel at its government.
It’s a communist dictatorship, you idiot. Now it has a thin layer of capitalism overlaid upon it, which makes it rather the worst of both worlds–no workers’ rights (because there are no rights) and a filthy, stinking rich capitalist class.
“father is black, mother white, a nephew whose father is black/native american, mother white, 2 neices and nephew, father black/white, mother white”
Maybe the form should have a block to check labled:
MELTED
Proving once again that CONs will do anything except research.
That’s how you can stay a CON . . . willful ignorance.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4415953.html
On new census form, race is multiple choice
Article from: Chicago Sun-Times Article date: October 30, 1997 More results for: census form race | Copyright informationCopyright 1997 Chicago Sun-Times. (Hide copyright information)
Americans will be allowed to choose more than one racial category when describing themselves on the census and other federal forms, the government announced Wednesday.
The decision ends the practice of identifying each person as a member of only one racial group, which has become less useful as high rates of immigration and interracial marriage have made the nation increasingly diverse.
“filthy, stinking rich capitalist class.”
Do you say this because they do not follow environmental standards the rest of the world follows therefore they smell bad?
Or do they not maintain sanitary standards like we do and not bath often?
Knowing the Capn, I’m sure the “filthy and stinking” are not related to being rich….
cosmos
You want the world to change it’s ways and dance to your tune. To do so requires the expenditure of much money. It is therefor incumbent on YOU asshat to prove YOUR hypothesis to us.
“More CO2 = warmer climate = more water vapour = more warming.”
Do you live in a bottle cosmos? Have you ever heard of something called rain? Yes? Good. Ever notice how after a bigass band of thunderstorms with hail and tornadoes rolls across about 6 states how much cooler the atmosphere gets? There’s a CLUE there.
Ever heard of snow? There’s another CLUE there.
I would wager that my meteorology merit badge (BSA, 1973) makes me as qualified to discuss AGW as Sol, hehe! And since it’s all “dumb computer models,” then that must mean I’m a friggin’ expert!
Certainly more so than those non-scientist propagandists at, say, the Univerity of Hawaii. :)
I wish we could do a DNA test on AmWay.
It’d be a blast to see all the non-white genes he’s got and listen to him sputter and stutter to try to explain it.
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS, MY FRIEND . . . somehow, I just can’t get that catchy tune out of my head.
American_Way
Posted December 11, 2008 at 12:46 pm | Permalink
Rage, I hold a job now. I have been asked many times on forms my race. I have read the arguments here on the subject.
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Sure, AmWay…. When I posted that a week or so back, the okie wench called me a liar… you think she will call you the same now?? I doubt it….
“That’s how you can stay a CON . . . willful ignorance.”
CapnAmerica
Prove it or apologize.
Where did I post anything contrary to that?
Or perhaps you didn’t comprehend what I actually posted?
Do you know what a DipPHil is Sol? Do you understand Science? Are you a scientist?
When faced with adversity (the truth and dissenting evidence) they squeal like pigs.
Oh wow…due to rain there is no warming…holy moly….publish that! LOL!
Heckler >>>>
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/open-thread-1211/#comment-482569
ONE MORE TIME >>>>>
CLIMATE SCIENCE IS NOT… I REPEAT NOT…. ABOUT LOCALIZED WEATHER REPORTS!!! WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL??? IT GETS POSTED HERE NEARLY EVERY DAY, AND YET YOU KEEP COMING BACK TO YOUR SAME, VERY FLAWED UNDERSTANDING….
GLOBAL WARMING WILL NOT APPEAR ON THE WEATHER CHANNEL AS SOME KIND OF WEATHER FRONT!!!
Sol…you can call me anything you wish…the fact is you are ignorant. Look up you author of that paper you posted. He is hardly a scientist.
CapnAmerica IGNORANT ATTACK!
CapnAmerica IGNORANT ATTACK!
CapnAmerica IGNORANT ATTACK!
CapnAmerica IGNORANT ATTACK!
Posted December 11, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink
I wish we could do a DNA test on AmWay.
(careful what you wish for. The military does have a national DNA bank. It might prove worthwhile under national healthcare to collect all our blood. Determine who is going to cost teh government the most.)
It’d be a blast to see all the non-white genes he’s got and listen to him sputter and stutter to try to explain it.
(did I ever post that I am only of one race? I am classified as mostly one – which is my point. It’s stupid as is your attacking only post.)\
Got an opinion post it Capn. Otherwise, why don’t you slither away with the rest of the trolls.
The fact that you call you view ‘truth’ proves you have no clue about science, Sol. Maybe you should stick with thing you understand kiddo.
“Proving once again that CONs will do anything except research.
That’s how you can stay a CON . . . willful ignorance.”
I’ll ask you again CapnAmerica, where did I post anything contrary to that? Hmmmm?
Cat got your tongue?
“Sure, AmWay…. When I posted that a week or so back, the okie wench called me a liar… you think she will call you the same now?? I doubt it….”
Chas I have posted very little for the past three weeks and nothing at all about you so you must have me mistaken with someone else who thinks you are full of hot air.
The districts are drawn and redrawn not by race, but by how people vote.
Sol, is that a new Chas NIC following you around?
DavisRanch,
All I have posted were the findings of scientists. Some of them from the IPCC. Maybe you should change religions scooter.
And do keep squealing.
“The districts are drawn and redrawn not by race, but by how people vote.”
And how do people vote beber?
chas,
In case you didn’t notice, your caps lock is on. Stroke?
While we are talking about Sols credentials to discuss GW I would rell like to know what Cosmos has in the way of credentials. To my knowledge he has never given a clue as to what his education level is, his area of expertise is, etc…
Just wondering. BTW I agree with those GW deniers. We are experiencing climate changes and have entered a global cooling phase. Many very esteemed scientists have drawn this conclusion.
rel=really
SolDevVB posted December 11, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I think a clear distinction needs to be made between
(a) the science of AGW, and
(b) the perception of AGW – and the use of AGW – by non-scientists.
…
The global temperature fell from 1940 to 1970, rose from 1970 to 1998, and fell from 1998 to the present (i.e. mid-2008). This is 40 years of cooling and 28 years of warming, and global temperature is now similar to that of 1940. But atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration has increased at a near-constant rate and by
more than 30% since 1940.
…
Richard S. Courtney DipPhil
IPCC expert reviewer, energy and environmental consultant
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Poor SolDevVB just can’t understand climate science. . .
1940 to mid-1970’s — large amounts of aerosols caused cooling.
Mid-1970’s to present — CO2 and other GHG’s caused warming which cannot be explained by solar activity. 1998 had increased warming from a record warm El Nino. The last 2 years have had cooling from La Nina and a solar minimum.
Courtney is an editor for a coal industry publication, not a climate scientist.
http://www.desmogblog.com/richard-s-courtney
Anyone who asks for a draft of the IPCC report is considered to “reviewer”
“Marshall Klarfeld shared his contention that a group of ETs known as the Annunaki visited Earth and genetically altered humans. Basing some of his suppositions on the work of Zecharia Sitchin who translated ancient cuneiform tablets of the Sumerians, Klarfeld said the Annunaki arrived from the rogue planet Niburi, which is on a 3600 year orbit in our solar system. As they needed gold to repair their planet’s atmosphere, the Annunaki decided to alter Homo erectus into a new species– Homo sapiens, so they could serve as miners for them, he explained.
We were “jump started” as a species 250,000 years ago, and are all descendents of the Annunaki, Klarfeld asserted. As evidence of their visitations, he cited various ancient endeavors which he said could not have been constructed by humans alone at that time, including Stonehenge, the huge Baalbek platform in Lebanon, the Giza pyramids, Earth Island statues, the Mitchell-Hedges Crystal Skull, the Nazca Lines, and cylinder seals. In regards to Peru’s mysterious Nazca Lines, he shared his new theory: “they are one gigantic time capsule,” left more than 3,000 years ago.”
Web Bot Warning:
“George Ure, who spots future events using a Web Bot technology that tracks language shifts on the Internet, appeared during the show’s first half-hour. We are now in an earthquake window from Dec. 10 – Dec. 15th, he declared, adding that he expects two quakes during this period, one with a magnitude 8 that will cause disruptions.”
http://www.coasttocoastam.com
Sol…scientists? Really? LOL! You are amusing. You are calling me names…lol.
AmWay writes, “It will be good to find out what Barack would put on a job application (if he ever held a job) for race. When you are of mixed origins – which freaking circle to you fill in, or box do you check?”
The answer is “any that apply.”
To my knowledge he has never given a clue as to what his education level is, his area of expertise is, etc…
But notice the folks in the forum such as Ben and Tara aren’t constantly correcting him. In fact, I haven’t see that happen once.
Maybe it’s because he’s lucidly presenting information from credible sources instead BS sites like Daily Tech and Icecap, and shows a real understanding of what he’s talking about.
Which was warmer? 1934 or 1998?
Help me out Cosmos – we are constantly seeing attacks on posters because of their lack of training and credentials which renders them unable to comment on global warming or the absence thereof.
Tell us something of your own training and superiority on these matters. I really am curious.
okobserver
Posted December 11, 2008 at 1:29 pm | Permalink
“Sure, AmWay…. When I posted that a week or so back, the okie wench called me a liar… you think she will call you the same now?? I doubt it….”
Chas I have posted very little for the past three weeks and nothing at all about you so you must have me mistaken with someone else who thinks you are full of hot air.
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You mean to tell me you dont remember that hoaky list of CRAP Regular posted, and when I told YOU and others that I had seen all of it on job apps, you called me a liar??? And when I posted the actual job app from a local car dealer, it somehow magically vanished, after you told me it had to be FALSE….
Damn, lady, you got one short memory!!
And again, never mind the fasts – 40 years of cooling and 28 of warming. Ad hominem rules the day.
Rancho,
Get a clue scooter – http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/open-thread-1211/#comment-482478
Which was warmer? 1934 or 1998?
Oh, Christ, not that one again. It’s like whack-a-mole.
Yawn. . . .
So we are warming then Sol?
okobserver posted December 11, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I would rell like to know what Cosmos has in the way of credentials.
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1) I haven’t posted anything based on my credentials.
2) Please feel free to compare my posts with what the large # of peer-reviewed climate scientists worldwide say.
You can find some of their names at the end of the chapters, and in the annex here.
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
sol…lol please…stop. Really.
What exactly do you think you are pointing at? LOL!
Okabsurd asks for help and boy, does she need it.
You don’t have to be an expert to POST on global warming. You have to be a peer-reviewed expert to write anything worthwhile on it.
Coal industry trade journals are not scientific journals.
I hope that helps, but as previously mentioned with the willfully ignorant observation, I’m pretty sure it won’t.
Chas
“CLIMATE SCIENCE IS NOT… I REPEAT NOT…. ABOUT LOCALIZED WEATHER REPORTS!!! WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL???”
And where did I say it was? Not in the post you cite for certain. I was offering cuzzin Coz a clue. I see that you need one too.
All of you AGWarmering religionists seem to live in a laboratory bubble. You don’t account for the dynamic nature of our atmosphere. You discard any evidence that doesnt fit your neat little model. You are simplistic with a distinct lack of common sense.
Increased water vapor means increased precipitation events. Precipitation events stir the atmosphere. (warm air goes up and gets REAL COLD and then comes back down) Ya think that might have an impact on average global temperatures maybe? But then you discard what doesnt fit your neat little virtual bubble.
Two states which drew up congressional districts strictly by race and got caught:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/june96/redistricting_6-13.html
Or look up Gerrymandering
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering
Hey, how about that freak snow storm in New Orleans, LA. They’re expecting nearly 5 inches of the white stuff. Bet they’d like to know what happened to that global warming effect.
One may as will argue whether Jesus is the Son O’ God as to whether manmade Global warming is true.
It’s a matter of faith. Nobody will change their mind.
Wow. what interesting ideas…heat trasfer stirs the atmosohere I thought…
Right on CJM…post about local weather regarding Climate talk! LOL!
OK Heckler — HERE is your stupid weather forecast from the link I posted upthread >>>>
“Do you live in a bottle cosmos? Have you ever heard of something called rain? Yes? Good. Ever notice how after a bigass band of thunderstorms with hail and tornadoes rolls across about 6 states how much cooler the atmosphere gets? There’s a CLUE there.
Ever heard of snow? There’s another CLUE there.
DO YOU EVEN READ YOUR OWN POSTS??? LOL
Ok later you all have a fine afternoon. Be careful it is getting cold out there, it is December. ;)
One may as will argue whether Jesus is the Son O’ God as to whether manmade Global warming is true.
It’s a matter of faith. Nobody will change their mind.
Nope, one is faith, the other is science. If the scientific consensus changes, we’ll let you know.
SolDevVB posted December 11, 2008 at 1:41 pm
And again, never mind the fasts – 40 years of cooling and 28 of warming. Ad hominem rules the day.
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Thank you for admitting that you cannot refute the science — aerosols caused the cooling from the 1940’s to the mid-1970’s.
Instead of dealing with that fact, you attack me for pointing out that Courtney is NOT a climate scientist.
SolDevVB prefers to believe non-scientists who work for the fossil-fuel industry.
What a waste of time. . .
“If the scientific consensus changes, we’ll let you know.”
Sorta like when the world was deemed flat.
I have seen Cosmos shoot down many peer reviewed scientist he happens not to agree with. It is a matter of opinion and many who used to believe are thankfully now looking to the falsehoods perpetuated by the algores of the world. The next Kyoto Treaty will be an interesting meeting.
Chas you were Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, with your questions you posted. Absolutely unequivicably wrong. Got it. That was several weeks ago and was settled then.
As for an app you posted – I don’t have a clue what you are talking about. But that isn’t anything new – you usually don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
How about an IPCC scientist cosmos?
Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” – UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.
Speaking of gerrymandering, what did Tiahrt do as soon as he got elected?
Cut out the Democratically leaning districts near Hutch, so even though he’s a Bush shill, he can’t be defeated.
“If the scientific consensus changes, we’ll let you know.”
The universe is contracting.
“If the scientific consensus changes, we’ll let you know.”
The universe is expanding.
“Nope, one is faith, the other is science.”
Computer models? Faith in computer models is more like it.
“If the scientific consensus changes, we’ll let you know.”
Hold de door,
The universe is static!
Cosmos you formed an opinion years ago and haven’t let any new info into your brain since. Other smarter scientific minds have. That is why we are seeing the new emphasis on whether GW is real. If it is man made can it be reversed. If it is merely a result of men living on the globe what would be the result of trying to fix a naturally occuring event?
Many more questions than you have ever looked at or responded to. It isn’t one demensional as you try to present it.
Oh, yeah, another “expert reviewer.” And he’s obviously been doing research in that area–NOT!
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Kiminori+Itoh%22+%22anthropogenic&btnG=Search
Just for illustrative purposes:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Michael+Mann%22+%22anthropogenic&btnG=Search
“Cut out the Democratically leaning districts near Hutch, so even though he’s a Bush shill, he can’t be defeated.”
Evidence of both political parties redrawing districts to serve themselves is overwhelming. And historically goes back to the nations founding.
Do I really need a local representative in this day and age?
Can we just have a given number of representatives statewide – be chosen by all of us? Highest vote counts get the seats?
Take race, politic’s, demographics out of the equation once and for all.
Kansas Coalition for Lifesaving Cures
http://www.kansascures.com/who.php
Since 2005, our coalition has worked to forestall unfair state-level restrictions on promising types of stem cell research, therapies, and cures. Today, as we stand at the brink of clinical trials to test human embryonic stem cell therapies for spinal cord injuries, diabetes and other conditions, Kansans must remain vigilant.
In the wake of the 2008 elections and balloting for legislative leadership posts, we pledge to keep an eye on legislative activity in Topeka — and as in the past we will alert you for action with your lawmakers.
House Republicans have kept conservatives in charge in their chamber, choosing Rep. Mike O’Neal of Hutchinson as Speaker of the House. O’Neal and every other member of the House Republican leadership team have voted in the past for bills that would have restricted promising forms of stem cell research.
In contrast, the minority party Democrats selected a team of leaders headed by Rep. Paul Davis of Lawrence who have all demonstrated support for the position that any stem cell research, therapies, and cures allowed under federal law should remain legal in Kansas and available to Kansas patients. We hope that Democrats and moderate Republicans will be able to maintain a working majority in the House.
If you are in Kansas, the answer is probably no on the weblog.
Republicans would dominate all representation.
But there has to be something better than the way they draw up districts after the census.
okobserver
Posted December 11, 2008 at 1:58 pm | Permalink
I have seen Cosmos shoot down many peer reviewed scientist he happens not to agree with. It is a matter of opinion and many who used to believe are thankfully now looking to the falsehoods perpetuated by the algores of the world. The next Kyoto Treaty will be an interesting meeting.
Chas you were Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, with your questions you posted. Absolutely unequivicably wrong. Got it. That was several weeks ago and was settled then.
As for an app you posted – I don’t have a clue what you are talking about. But that isn’t anything new – you usually don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
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WELL…. WHEN I HAVE THE TIME TO DO A BONE DIG, WHICH ORIGINALLY YOU SAID DIDNT EVEN EXIST, BUT NOW YOU DO ACKNOWLEDGE, FROM SEVERAL WEEKS BACK….
WHEN I HAVE THE TIME TO BONE DIG THAT SECTION, AND RE-POST IT HERE, IT WILL SHOW ALL THOSE WHO DONT ALREADY KNOW IT, WHAT A FREAKIN LYING WENCH YOU ACTUALLY ARE…. WHICH WILL BE A GREAT BLESSING….
MAYBE THEN, YOU WILL JUST GO AWAY, AND STOP YOUR LYING POSTS!!! EEEWWWW!!!! I CANT STAND TO EVEN SEE YOUR NAME ON THE BLOG…. AND EVEN WORSE WHEN YOU COME HERE AND INTENTIONALLY LIE!!!
Chass you are really out of control today. The stroke must be worse. Are you still taking the meds. That little finger is working overtime.
You are wrong about the questions. Dig all the bones you like. Just admit it and go on. Why do you insist on making a fool of yourself practically everyday?
“Sorta like when the world was deemed flat.”
Actually, the idea that scientists believed the world was flat is a myth and a ridiculous one at that.
Historian James Loewen writes in his book Lies My Teacher Told Me that “in truth, few people on both sides of the Atlantic believed in 1492 that the world was flat. Most knew the world to be round. It looks round. It casts a circular shadow on the moon. Sailors see its roundness when ships disappear over the horizon.”
Dante writes in about 1300 in his Inferno how his main character travels through the center of the globe and comes out on the other side.
chas,
Caps lock.
Just sayin.
OKIE THE LYING WENCH….
SOL THE DUMB A$$ FOREIGNER!!!
DNFTT’S
Missed the key chas. It is on the left side. It says “Caps Lock”.
Foreigner? Do tell.
“OKIE THE LYING WENCH….
SOL THE DUMB A$$ FOREIGNER!!!
DNFTT’S”
koo koo
koo koo
Chass all of the screaming will give you a sore throat and really isn’t having any effect on me because I have my silent key on.
okobserver,
Can’t you just see him SMASHING those keys two fingers at a time?
SolDevVB,
Is your main argument against AGW the lack of a steady rise in Earth’s temperatures? That AGW can ONLY be happening if temperatures climb steadily?
If so, your argument is that CO2, methane, and the other GHG’s humans have added can be the ONLY cause of temperature changes.
In other words, you’re arguing that:
* Changes in solar activity cannot change temperatures.
* Large amounts of aerosols, like during WWII, and from industrial pollution, cannot change temperatures.
* Large volcanic eruptions, like Pinatubo, cannot change temperatures.
* El Nino and La Nina cannot change temperatures.
* A “nuclear winter” would not change temperatures.
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That’s not very logical (to be polite).
What’s really occuring is a slow warming from AGW, that is ALSO influenced by the above (except for the “nuclear winter”).
okobserver posted December 11, 2008 at 2:04 pm
That is why we are seeing the new emphasis on whether GW is real.
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Uh-huh. You just can’t reveal their scientific work, because it’s a worldwide secret. /sarcasm OFF
I guess your silence Cosmos means that you have no scientific background and that your cut and paste items are just something you have read and believe. So if someone else reads articles that are in opposition to the views of the scientists you read – who is right and who is wrong?
Hello, my name is cosmo. I am the cure for insomnia. You do not want to stand next to me at a party. You will want to suck on the business end of a pistol.
If so, your argument is that CO2, methane, and the other GHG’s humans have added can be the ONLY cause of temperature changes.
Are you retarded? I have been stating that the changes in climate have been naturally driven.
* Changes in solar activity cannot change temperatures.
Wow, ok I guess you are retarded. I’ve posted several times that sun spot activity far outweighs human ‘contribution’ to climate change. In fact, I thanked you for proving that point.
* El Nino and La Nina cannot change temperatures.
Again, I thanked you for proving that natural climate change far outweighs the CO2 bogyman you alarmist parade.
* A “nuclear winter” would not change temperatures.
OK, I’ll admit it. The debate is over. Cosmos is retarded.
Sol I am getting worried about Chas at this point. I hope he is not alone. I have a picture of him in front of his keyboard, frothing at the mouth, red in the face with an out of control little finger and no one there to help.
It is frightening!
Market down today as senate repubs do the only thing they know how to do, obstruct.
Here’s a very impressive Christmas ornament for you Obama supporters only:
http://www.stupid.com/fun/RCTO.html
Phantom,
Oh no no no no no. The market was up a day or two ago. That was thanks to Obama. Now that the market is down… I think I see how your game is played…
cosmos,
“The purpose of my Notes on Climate Change is to point out some serious deficiencies in the recent IPCC Report. I would like to emphasize: (i) natural components are important and significant, so that they should not be ignored, (ii) it is insufficient to study climate change on the basis of data only from the last 100 years, (iii) it is difficult to make conclusions about causes of the temperature rise since 1975 until we can understand the rise from 1910 to 1940, (iv) the present GCM modelings are an attempt to simulate the IPCC hypothesis that the present warming (0.7°C/100years) is caused by the greenhouse effect, and thus, (v) because of these deficiencies, their future prediction is unreliable and uncertain.
If most of the present rise is caused by the recovery from the Little Ice Age (a natural component) and if the recovery rate does not change during the next 100 years, the rise expected from the year 2000 to 2100 would be roughly 0.5°C. Multi-decadal changes would be either positive or negative in 2100. This rough estimate is based on the recovery rate of 0.5°C/100 years during the last few hundred years. Note that this value is comparable with what IPCC hypothesize as the greenhouse effect. The greenhouse effect shown by GCMs should be carefully re-evaluated, if the present rise (0.7°C/100 years) contains significant natural components, such as those I suggest.”
http://people.iarc.uaf.edu/~sakasofu/climate.php
CapnAmerica
Posted December 11, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink
Because calling some a “socialist” is not ad homenim, eh Sollie?
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Why would you be ashamed of being what you are? Don’t like the term Socialist?
That’s exactly what you & Obamanation support.
From a well-regarded newspaper:
Others claim to have linked shifts in levels of cosmic rays reaching deep into the atmosphere to changes in average cloud cover. Depending on how thick and how high they are, clouds either cool the planet by reflecting sunlight back into space or act as a blanket and trap heat. The valve controlling the flow of cosmic rays from deep space is the sun’s magnetic field – which shifts with sunspot activity.
But this broad line of inquiry faces an enormous credibility problem, Dr. Shindell notes. From Herschel’s day through the early 20th century, scientists have offered correlations that “fall apart the longer you look at them,” he says.
Moreover, when scientists report a new correlation, some enthusiastic advocates go beyond what the data show and imbue it with too much significance. Such is the case with cosmic rays, many scientists say, whose poorly demonstrated ties to cloud formation have nevertheless been touted in the public arena – if not the scientific arena – as an explanation for most of the warming in the 20th century.
To say that current warming trends are “all cosmic rays and no carbon dioxide is totally ludicrous, in the same way that people say that it’s all [human-induced] carbon dioxide and nothing natural. That is equally ludicrous,” says Jasper Kirkby, a physicist who is actively exploring potential links between cosmic rays and clouds at CERN, Europe’s center for high-energy physics research in Geneva.
“Climate is a cocktail,” he explains. “The effect of cosmic rays on clouds – if there is a significant effect – will be part of the mix. The question is: Is it a significant part of the mix, or insignificant?”
Mainstream scientific skepticism about a strong direct link between changes in the sun’s output and today’s global warming stems from a tiny shift in sunlight.
More here:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0927/p13s03-sten.html?page=2
ON the issue of RACE, what is it?
Can anyone define RACE?
Markets got scared when a few repubs without any business acumen decided they ought to be calling the shots. Pretty clear cut. Hope the repubs are willing to accept the hit when we spiral into major recession because of their obstructionism.
You bunch of loonies sure are a hateful group.
Thinks I’ll get a piece of pie.
How about that RP?
Want to have some pie?
Sure. These sqeaky little monkeys fight all the damned time, what a bother.
Bad monkies, bad.
Isn’t this odd? Why describe RACE in terms of LOCATION and/or COLOR?
From a standard Fannie Mae loan application:
https://www.efanniemae.com/sf/formsdocs/forms/pdf/sellingtrans/1003.pdf
Race: ???? American Indian or ???? Asian ???? Black or African American
Alaska Native
???? Native Hawaiian or ????White
Race to the goddamned fridge for the last piece of pie, there chief………
Can anyone define RACE?
Skin color, resulting from the environment of one’s ancestors, which, thanks to the superstition, prejudice, and isolation of various groups, has resulted in other differences associated with it.
SolDevVB posted December 11, 2008 at 2:47 pm
* El Nino and La Nina cannot change temperatures
Again, I thanked you for proving that natural climate change far outweighs the CO2 bogyman you alarmist parade.
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I did NOT say or prove that.
ENSO causes minor short-term changes, generally over a year or so. AGW is causing larger amounts of long-term warming, mixed in with fluctuations caused by ENSO, volcanoes, other aerosols, etc.
It’s a shame that SolDevVB, his coal-industry source, and others can’t understand science.
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JimJohnson
Posted December 11, 2008 at 3:09 pm | Permalink
ON the issue of RACE, what is it?
Can anyone define RACE?
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Sure thing…
I was writin a letter, made a mistake so I ‘raced’ part of it.
Why is SEX relevent on a loan application?
Sex: ???? Female ???? Male
OR Ethnicity?
What is ethinicity?
If I’m Hispanic, what RACE box do I check?
Ethnicity: ???? Hispanic or Latino ????? Not Hispanic or Latino
Thanks Regular.
So why on a loan app do they need to know if I have a racer or not?
Say Regular, when you was ritin da letter, was you sweatin?
The main problem with the cosmic ray theory is there is no trend in their measurements since the 1950’s.
No trend = no explanation for the warming trend since the mid-1970’s — which IS explained by other natural AND anthropogenic forcings.
“University at Buffalo scientists working with ice cores have solved a mystery surrounding sunspots and their effect on climate that has puzzled scientists since they began studying the phenomenon.
The research, published in a paper in the May 15 issue of Geophysical Research Letters, provides striking evidence that sunspots — blemishes on the sun’s surface indicating strong solar activity — do influence global climate change, but that explosive volcanic eruptions on Earth can completely reverse those influences.
It is the first time that volcanic eruptions have been identified as the atmospheric event responsible for the sudden and baffling reversals that scientists have seen in correlations between sunspots and climate.”
http://www.unisci.com/stories/20022/0613022.htm
It is a shame cosmos can’t see past his religion to the facts that natural occurrences far outweigh ‘AGW’ and that we are in a period of cooling for the next couple decades.
Time will tell cosmos. As temps continue to drop, so will what is left of your credibility.
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JimJohnson
Posted December 11, 2008 at 3:17 pm | Permalink
Say Regular, when you was ritin da letter, was you sweatin?
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No, but I got rite up next to it with my tongue and wet it up a bit…
American_Way
Posted December 11, 2008 at 12:52 pm | Permalink
It’s so stupid. On one hand, the government wants employers and everyone to be color blind.
On the other hand, government bean counters look at our color for statistics. Employers look at color to ensure they are not being bias. (ya gotta know everyones color to do that!)
All stupid.
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Diversity: Recognize how different we all are and embrace it!
EEOC: Don’t notice what color people are.
Wunnerful Gov’t Regulation.
I wonder if KKK Byrd voted for the Civil Rights Act?
OkiePokie writes: “I guess your silence Cosmos means that you have no scientific background and that your cut and paste items are just something you have read and believe. So if someone else reads articles that are in opposition to the views of the scientists you read – who is right and who is wrong?”
I explained this once, but I knew it couldn’t stick to the willfully ignorant crowd.
What is scientific is defined by the scientific community itself. Not Rush Limbaugh, not the Coal Industry, not George W. Bush . . . the climate scientists themselves.
That’s why the process is called peer reviewed.
Chas
Posted December 11, 2008 at 12:56 pm | Permalink
AmWay, if you cant see the blatant racism in your own worthless posts, then that pretty much sums up your intelligence…
NOBODY can prove their vote…. And as for the Census, it is not a study of RACE… it is a study of demographics…. Geez!!
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Geez Chas, you are showing your ignorance again. Race is one of the demographics gathered by our Gov’t Census Bureau. Gov’t needs to classify all da people so they know what Race of people lives where.
You know, so they know.
They need to know.
I don’t think so.
In 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo:[6]
I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.
—Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944 [2][7]
It’s not who ya know, it’s who ya…
well, you know how that goes…
Oh, and what IS “RACE”?
How can Chas call someone a Racist when he doesn’t even know what RACE is?
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fleettwood
Posted December 11, 2008 at 3:26 pm | Permalink
I don’t think so.
In 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo:[6]
I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.
—Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944 [2][7]
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Byrd has inspired many with his humanistic approach to life and segregationist sign painting services.
“As temps continue to drop, so will what is left of your credibility.”
2nd warmest October on record. Hardly temps dropping.
According to Anthropologists, race may not even exist…
Something about regional influences and whether or not they were a Tab drinker in the past.
“Knowing the mechanisms behind past climate changes is critical to our understanding of possible future changes in climate, such as global warming, and for assessing which of these changes are due to human activities and which arise naturally,” explained co-author Michael Stolz, doctoral candidate in the Department of Physics in UB’s College of Arts and Sciences.
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Obviously, other factors come into play besides man-made greenhouse gasses.
That doesn’t mean that man-made greenhouse gasses have no effect however.
These scientists were in no way minimizing the effect of man-made greenhouse gas.
“JimJohnson
Posted December 11, 2008 at 3:15 pm | Permalink
Why is SEX relevent on a loan application?
Sex: ???? Female ???? Male”
I always thought the correct answer was YES!
Coldest winter of the decade. Hmmmm
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bth
Posted December 11, 2008 at 3:29 pm | Permalink
“As temps continue to drop, so will what is left of your credibility.”
2nd warmest October on record. Hardly temps dropping.
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So temperatures before records were kept don’t count?
Those monitoring thermometers still being kept onto of metal refrigeration units?
I think the weather is changing in New York City, because of all that flatulence they have there.
No wonder they ride the trains underground, the smell…
my apologies, 2008, coldest year
That’s cool Ben, you can be in the same boat over the next 15-20 years as temps drop.
Noted, you have drunk the koolaid too and will be debunked.
“In 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo.”
Well . . . Byrd obviously liked Hobbits.
The main problem with the cosmic ray theory is there is no trend in their measurements since the 1950’s.
Funny thing, how a newspaper article I randomly googled said pretty much the same thing:
Other studies suggest that changes in sunlight – as well as the cooling effect of volcanic activity, which sends sunlight-reflecting particles high in the sky – probably played a major role in climate during preindustrial times and even into the early 20th century. But even these find that CO2 emissions have dominated the scene over the past half century.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0927/p13s03-sten.html?page=3
It’s a conspiracy, a conspiracy, I tell you!
From 2000 US Census Form. If I’m European, which box do I check? If I’m Greek, which box do I check?
Again, what is RACE?
http://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/d61a.pdf
7.
No, not Spanish /Hispanic / Latino
Yes, Mexican, Mexican Am., Chicano
Yes, Puerto Rican
Yes, Cuban
Yes, other Spanish /Hispanic / Latino — Print group.
8.
White
Black, African Am., or Negro
American Indian or Alaska Native — Print name of enrolled or principal tribe.
Some other race — Print race.
Age on April 1, 2000
Month Day Year of birth
Japanese
Korean
Vietnamese
Native Hawaiian
Guamanian or Chamorro
Samoan
Other Pacific Islander — Print race.
From 2000 US Census Form. If I’m European, which box do I check? If I’m Greek, which box do I check?
There’s a space to put your own designation. I put down “African-European American.”
It’s a conspiracy, a conspiracy, I tell you!
It is a money grab. Google hansen + heinz foundation
The quarter million dollar question.
SolDevVB Posted December 11, 2008 at 3:20 pm
It is a shame cosmos can’t see past his religion to the facts that natural occurrences far outweigh ‘AGW’ and that we are in a period of cooling for the next couple decades.
Time will tell cosmos. As temps continue to drop, so will what is left of your credibility.
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Mt. Pinatubo, La Nina’s, etc do not “far outweigh ‘AGW’”.
And the world’s top, peer-reviewed climate scientists definitely have much more “credibility” than SolDevVB’s confused shills, like his coal-industry editor.
Clear cut explanation of what may be to come.
Seems fair to me, if the government can do it why can’t the rest of us!!
Barack Obama discovers a leak under his sink, so he calls Joe the Plumber to come and fix it.
Joe drives to Obama’s house, which is located in a very nice neighborhood and where it’s clear that all the residents make more than $250,000 per year.
Joe arrives and takes his tools into the house. Joe is led to the room that contains the leaky pipe under a sink. Joe assesses the problem and tells Obama, who is standing near the door, that it’s an easy repair that will take less than 10 minutes.
Obama asks Joe how much it will cost. Joe immediately says, “$9,500.”
“$9,500?” Obama asks, stunned. “But you said it’s an easy repair!”
“Yes, but what I do is charge a lot more to my clients who make more than $250,000 per year so I can fix the plumbing of everybody who makes less than that for free,” explains Joe. “It’s always been my philosophy. As a matter of fact, I lobbied government to pass this philosophy as law, and it did pass earlier this year, so now all plumbers have to do business this way. It’s known as ‘Joe’s Fair Plumbing Act of 2008.’ Surprised you haven’t heard of it, Senator.”
In spite of that, Obama tells Joe there’s no way he’s paying that much for a small plumbing repair, so Joe leaves.
Obama spends the next hour flipping through the phone book looking for another plumber, but he finds that all other plumbing businesses listed have gone out of business. Not wanting to pay Joe’s price, Obama does nothing.
The leak under Obama’s sink goes unrepaired for the next several days.
A week later the leak is so bad that Obama has had to put a bucket under the sink. The bucket fills up quickly and has to be emptied every hour, and there’s a risk that the room will flood, so Obama calls Joe and pleads with him to return.
Joe goes back to Obama’s house, looks at the leaky pipe, and says “Let’s see – this will cost you about $21,000.”
“A few days ago you told me it would cost $9,500!” Obama quickly fires back.
Joe explains the reason for the dramatic increase. “Well, because of the ‘Joe’s Fair Plumbing Act,’ a lot of rich people are learning how to fix their own plumbing, so there are fewer of you paying for all the free plumbing I’m doing for the people who make less than $250,000. As a result, the rate I have to charg e my wealthy paying customers rises every day.
“Not only that, but for some reason the demand for plumbing work from the group of people who get it for free has skyrocketed, and there’s a long waiting list of those who need repairs. This has put a lot of my fellow plumbers out of business, and they’re not being replaced – nobody is going into the plumbing business because they know they won’t make any money. I’m hurting now too – all thanks to greedy rich people like you who won’t pay their fair share.”
Obama tries to straighten out the plumber: “Of course you’re hurting, Joe! Don’t you get it? If all the rich people learn how to fix their own plumbing and you refuse to charge the poorer people for your services, you’ll be broke, and then what will you do?”
Joe immediately replies, “Run for president, apparently.”
have much more “credibility” than SolDevVB’s
confused shills, like his coal-industry editorthermometer.Time will tell cosmos. keep digging that hole. I’m shoveling snow.
SolDevVB,
You want to make a whole lot of money? Here’s how you can do it!
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/open-thread-1211/#comment-482535
It is a money grab. Google hansen + heinz foundation.
Uhm, right. So they paid off all the editors of the peer-reviewed journals, and the vast majority of their professional colleagues?
Right.
Amway asks:
“Are we in double digits unemployment? Please provide the source. I had not seen that.”
The government measures unemployment as those who are currently looking for work and receive unemployment benefits. People considered employed are those who aren’t working but aren’t looking for work, or anyone employed a minute a week or more. Also, an individual who works two jobs is considered two employed people.
Here’s a long explanation:
http://donklephant.com/2008/12/07/what-official-unemployment-numbers-tell-usand-dont-tell-us/
Nah,
I’ll let time do it for me. Watching you squirm and shill while temps fall will be amusing.
Chas
Posted December 11, 2008 at 2:24 pm | Permalink
WELL…. WHEN I HAVE THE TIME TO DO A BONE DIG, WHICH ORIGINALLY YOU SAID DIDNT EVEN EXIST, BUT NOW YOU DO ACKNOWLEDGE, FROM SEVERAL WEEKS BACK….
WHEN I HAVE THE TIME TO BONE DIG THAT SECTION, AND RE-POST IT HERE, IT WILL SHOW ALL THOSE WHO DONT ALREADY KNOW IT, WHAT A FREAKIN LYING WENCH YOU ACTUALLY ARE…. WHICH WILL BE A GREAT BLESSING….
MAYBE THEN, YOU WILL JUST GO AWAY, AND STOP YOUR LYING POSTS!!! EEEWWWW!!!! I CANT STAND TO EVEN SEE YOUR NAME ON THE BLOG…. AND EVEN WORSE WHEN YOU COME HERE AND INTENTIONALLY LIE!!!
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This from the same preacher who becomes holier then thou as he writes about Christmas and writes his phony blessings?
Chas
Posted December 11, 2008 at 2:33 pm | Permalink
OKIE THE LYING WENCH….
SOL THE DUMB A$$ FOREIGNER!!!
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How old is this Chas character?
Does his mother know he’s blogging?
SolDevVB
Posted December 11, 2008 at 2:39 pm | Permalink
okobserver,
Can’t you just see him SMASHING those keys two fingers at a time?
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No, just one finger. peck peck peck
The other hand is busy.
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cosmos_originally
Posted December 11, 2008 at 1:44 pm | Permalink
okobserver posted December 11, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I would rell like to know what Cosmos has in the way of credentials.
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1) I haven’t posted anything based on my credentials.
2) Please feel free to compare my posts with what the large # of peer-reviewed climate scientists worldwide say.
You can find some of their names at the end of the chapters, and in the annex here.
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
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The IPCC is a Uuited Nations orginization made up of politicians. It is common knowledge that the UN is controlled by Communists, Islamist, Socialists and other anti American globalists bent dominating the world’s energy.
Cos is a paid blogger to present (copy and paste) disinformation. He is also heavily invested in the carbon trading markets.
He has no other credentials or he would present them.
He has no other credentials or he would present them.
Or he would make them up, like you.
SolDevVB,
I hope you’ve emailed your family, friends, co-workers, et al about how you proven on the WE Blog that the world’s top climate scientists are wrong about AGW.
They might want to print your posts, so they can brag about you decades from now? And pass them on to their future generations?
They will all be very impressed by how you proved that aerosols did not cause cooling from 1940 – mid 1970’s, by saying I used an ad hominem re your coal magazine editor. /sarcasm OFF
“Cos is a paid blogger to present (copy and paste) disinformation. He is also heavily invested in the carbon trading markets.”
Care to PROVE that allegation?
“He has no other credentials or he would present them.” — donndublin
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Or, he could choose not to acquiesce to your request.
Rage,
According to Regular, the measurements of well-mixed atmospheric CO2 levels done by scientists worldwide is a conspiracy. He claimed that the data they report is just made up.
“…so they can brag about you decades from now?”
That’s the beauty of the GW theory, just like the Jesus theory. Nobody can be proved wrong. It’s been 2000 years waiting for Jesus.
“Care to PROVE that allegation?”
The computer models say so.
donndublin,
Are you paid to make the incredibly stupid claim that “catastrophic heating” and “foreseeable future” are scientific terms?
And btw, the IPCC does not do climate science — they compile the science from published peer-reviewed journals.
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cosmos_originally
Posted December 11, 2008 at 1:52 pm | Permalink
SolDevVB posted December 11, 2008 at 1:41 pm
And again, never mind the fasts – 40 years of cooling and 28 of warming. Ad hominem rules the day.
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Thank you for admitting that you cannot refute the science — aerosols caused the cooling from the 1940’s to the mid-1970’s.
Instead of dealing with that fact, you attack me for pointing out that Courtney is NOT a climate scientist.
SolDevVB prefers to believe non-scientists who work for the fossil-fuel industry.
What a waste of time. . .
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See Cos, I can copy and paste too.
http://www.thehumanspirit.net/New_Essays_5/CLIMATE%20OF%20FEAR.dot
The computer models say so.
Ah, yes, and everyone know computer models can’t be in used in real science! What do these clowns think they’re doing?: /sarcasmOFF
http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?keyword=%22computer+model
fleettwood,
The computer models say so.
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Computer models prove this?
“Cos is a paid blogger to present (copy and paste) disinformation. He is also heavily invested in the carbon trading markets.”
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The BDP strikes (out) again. . .
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bth
Posted December 11, 2008 at 4:17 pm | Permalink
“Cos is a paid blogger to present (copy and paste) disinformation. He is also heavily invested in the carbon trading markets.”
Care to PROVE that allegation?
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The computer model prophet told me so. It has it’s own website.
http://www.weworshipawg.com
donndublin posted December 11, 2008 at 4:29 pm
See Cos, I can copy and paste too.
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But you cannot refute the climate science that aerosols cause cooling.
I remember back in the days of FORTRAN when I learned my first computer acronym. GIGA = garbage in garbage out = climate change computer model.
Why did the AGW crowd change the name to Climate change? Because they can’t be proved wrong no matter what the data tells us.
“Computer models prove this?”
Yes. They prove whatever my faith tells me.
“Our AlGore who art in corporate jets.
Hollow is thy name”
Correction GIGA = GIGO
JimJohnson = WE Blog’s scum bucket Racist Mongrel… and doesnt know the difference between Race and Ethnicity…
Care to try again, Scum Bucket??
donndublin posted December 11, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Why did the AGW crowd change the name to Climate change?
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Because AGW causes more than just warmer temperatures — it also changes precipitation, climate zones, etc.
It’s both AGW and climate change.
Choices Medical Clinic, located next door to Tiller’s late-term Wichita abortion mill, is so effective and professional in offering 3-D sonograms, medical and other assistance, that over 90% of mothers who enter decide against committing abortion.
Democrats like Bilious Sebelius are making sure there is continuing strong opposition to any Kansas informed consent bill that includes sonograms, and a ready veto with plenty of arm-twisting to prevent a veto override. Democrats and RINOs have no interest whatsoever in reducing the number of abortions, because that would cut down abortion mill profits, their favorite cash cow.
Somehow, they never have to explain to the pro-abortion media their denials of informed consent for desperate mothers seeking help and alternatives, often being coerced, as testified to by one victim of an illegal, coerced, botched, post-viable Wichita abortion, before a legislative committee in Topeka.
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Victory and Genevieve Patterson are suing the Northside Women’s Clinic abortion mill for committing an illegal abortion upon their underage daughter without their knowledge or consent, knowingly in violation of Georgia law.
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Obamanation should make preventing genocide and mass atrocities a priority for his government and establish a procedure to determine when the threat of genocide is emerging, says the Genocide Prevention Task Force.
Meanwhile, since Obamanation is Planned Parenthood’s appointed Judas goat for the black race, we can expect well over half of black babies to be mangled, dismembered, poisoned, and beheaded in America’s abortion mills for the next 4 years or more, as the unrestrained genocidal assault on the black population is unleashed in January.
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The Ohio legislature has approved an expansion of the state’s safe haven law for legalized abandonment of newborns, in view of the inability of safe haven laws in 50 states to eliminate all or nearly all unsafe and fatal abandonments and infanticides. S.B. 304 expands the timeframe from 72 hours to 30 days after birth, and requires a plan to educate at-risk populations about the provisions of the revised law.
“Sorta like when the world was deemed flat.”
If anyone ever believed that, they should have paid more attention to the Bible since it refers to the world as a sphere!
Here ya go, “monique”
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/FlatHome.htm
Mr Paleo(ben),
Care to explain how Greenland got it’s name? Could it be that it used to be warmer than what it is now?
http://www.s8int.com/water18.html
And fleettwood again makes the futile attempt to refute many decades of climate science, by again attacking Al Gore. . .
Do you think many people would’ve gone to Greeenland, if they gave it a more accurate name?
Something like, ‘Livestock kept in barns during the very harsh winters’.
cosmos_originally
Posted December 11, 2008 at 4:25 pm | Permalink
And btw, the IPCC does not do climate science — they compile the science from published peer-reviewed journals.
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The IPCC is run by globalist politicians. They cherry pick the peer-review journals and excommunicate those who don’t bow down to computer models.
When are you going to get off your knees Cos?
It was largely a land fraud. Kind of like the Antelope valley (Mojave desert) in California.
There are green areas along the southern coast and have been for some time. This is due to the warming effect of the Gulf Stream.
During the Mideavel Warm period the souther fjords ware fairly warm dur to increased thermohaline circulation; that decreased during the Little Ice Age.
There is some evidence that about a half-million years ago the thermohaline was strong enough to warm the southern part of the islane enough to support a boreal forest.
In 2007, the existence of a “new” island was announced. Named “Uunartoq Qeqertoq” (English: Warming Island), this island has always been present off the coast of Greenland, but was covered by an ice sheet. This ice sheet was discovered to be shrinking rapidly in 2002, and by 2007 had completely melted away, leaving the exposed island.[18] The island was named “Place of the Year” by the Oxford Atlas of the World in 2007. Ben Keene, the atlas’s editor, commented: “In the last two or three decades, global warming has reduced the size of glaciers throughout the Arctic and earlier this year, news sources confirmed what climate scientists already knew: water, not rock, lay beneath this ice bridge on the east coast of Greenland. More islets are likely to appear as the sheet of frozen water covering the world’s largest island continues to melt.”
Another one for “monique” >>>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society
“55 million years ago, the Arctic was a sub-tropical, shallow sea with an average temperature of about 20C.”
The arrangement of the continents was quite different then. Greenland was at a different latitude. That is also why Antarctica has warm-weather fossils.
My, my…
The CONs have been particularly sophomoric today.
Here’s John Stewart handing Mike Huckabee over the gay marriage issue.
http://tinyurl.com/5ltyad
There is no gravity:
“Earth is accelerating upward at a rate of 9.8 m/s², thereby simulating gravity. [20] This upward momentum is caused by a form of dark energy[citation needed]. Gravity cannot exist on a flat Earth since the disc shape would eventually collapse on itself”
“Aim: To carefully observe, think freely rediscover forgotten fact and oppose theoretical dogmatic assumptions. To help establish the United States…of the world on this flat earth. Replace the science religion…with SANITY”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society
We maintain that what is called ‘Science’ today and ’scientists’ consist of the same old gang of witch doctors, sorcerers, tellers of tales, the ‘Priest-Entertainers’ for the common people. ‘Science’ consists of a weird, way-out occult concoction of gibberish theory-theology…
Cos is a “neo-eco-facist”. He wants to encourage the tree huggers to commit mass murder on a couple billion people to save the earth from the human race.
You should make an example of yourself and show the you fellow “neo-ecos” how to commit mass suicide.
The International Flat Earth Society is the oldest continuous Society existing on the world today. It began with the Creation of the Creation. First the water…the face of the deep…without form or limits…just Water. Then the Land sitting in and on the Water, the Water then as now being flat and level, as is the very Nature of Water. There are, of course, mountains and valleys on the Land but since most of the World is Water, we say, “The World is Flat”. Historical accounts and spoken history tell us the Land part may have been square, all in one mass at one time, then as now, the magnetic north being the Center. Vast cataclysmic events and shaking no doubt broke the land apart, divided the Land to be our present continents or islands as they exist today. One thing we know for sure about this world…the known inhabited world is Flat, Level, a Plain World.
yeah ben,
It kinda sounds like the AGW crowd has another nic.
Just for Donn the Dork >>>>
http://www.answers.com/greenland
Man and Dinosaur Co-existence
“In the end of November and beginning of December last, many of the country people observed dragons (probably Pterosaurs) appearing in the north and flying rapidly towards the east; from which they concluded, and their conjectures were right, that…boisterous weather would follow” ….1793 European Newspaper comment on the Weather”..
http://www.s8int.com/dinolit1.html
Ben,
I thought continental drift was a theory. Did the computer model determine it is “settled science”?
I’m putting my stock into alchemy.
“All are identified as black on census – this isn’t accurate and the way we take census now has become antiquated.”
Hellllllooooooo….. In the 2000 census, for the first time, respondents were allowed to indicate more than one race and as many races as they so desired.
Thanks chas the spaz
15 foot tall men:
http://www.s8int.com/giants1.html
Steven, you cant tell self-professing Racists anything… their minds are made up… and cannot be changed by facts… only confused more…
You’ve done a great job making stupid posts about OISM, false attacks on the IPCC, lying about me, etc.
Too bad you cannot do the two things that you need to do:
Refute the AGW theory, and offer a credible alternative theory to the recent observed warming.
There was no spot for extra-terrestrial on the census and they wouldn’t return my phone calls.
“continental drift” (more correctly referred to as Plate Tectonics) has been well established for several decades.
Remember – gravity is only a theory too.
Lindalink,
Enjoyed your list of the 10 worst predictions in 2008, especially #7 about the fear that the large hadron collider would cause small worm holes to form and they would grow big enough to swallow up the earth. Perhaps it happened one night when we are asleep & now we are in an alternate universe.
heh! heh! Maybe that explains some of the blogs that are being posted lately.
There is no gravity
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512
I will no longer be posting on this board during daylight hours for a few months. I am sure the Libs are upset, but I have a rather extensive building project to attend to.
So Chas, if I miss calling you a dumb ass everyday, well I apologize.
I will check in at night from time to time.
Have fun ya’ll!
“Scientists from the Evangelical Center For Faith-Based Reasoning are now asserting that the long-held “theory of gravity” is flawed, and they have responded to it with a new theory of Intelligent Falling.”
Good one bth! Thanks. I read at the Onion regularly but had missed that one.
janeeyre,
When I read the part of your post about possibly being in an alternate universe I had the same thought you expressed in your next sentence! Our minds were in sync on that one! ;-)
StevenEDavis
Posted December 11, 2008 at 5:39 pm | Permalink
“All are identified as black on census – this isn’t accurate and the way we take census now has become antiquated.”
Hellllllooooooo….. In the 2000 census, for the first time, respondents were allowed to indicate more than one race and as many races as they so desired.
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So Steven we should have an option that says All of the Above. If not this is a worthless question as I said earlier.
Dont hurry back, ANTI… I guarantee you wont be missed!!!
Jesus loves even you, Chas.
Plate tectonics was VERY controversial when I was first exposed to geology. However, as more and more was learned, especially from the ocean floor, it became quite clear. The mid-Atlantic ridge, for example, is the spreading center that has caused the Americas to separate from Europe/Africe over about 250 million years. The closing of the Isthmus of Panama had dramatic impacts on ocean currents.
The closing off of the Arctic Ocean into a hyposaline body of water coupled with the migration of Anarctica to the south pole set in motion a dramatic cooling of the earth into the Holocene. This was largely caused by the ice-albedo feedback based first on Antarctica’s snow cover and then the easier freezing of the isolated and less salty Arctic. This had impacts across the globe.
As I have recommended – take a few geology classes up at WSU – especially paleoclimatology (which is a graduate level capstone class).
brian_nuevo,
I was interested in your remarks about how there will always be racism as long as there is an NAACP, affirmative action, etc. I think you left out some very important groups which also involve racism: KKK and White Supremicists and Neo-Nazi’s like the 2 young men (1 from Tennessee and 1 from Arkansas) who gathered up a lot of weapons and were planning on killing 88 black students at a high school in a small Arkansas town. They were planning to behead 14 blacks there because there is some semi-famous sentence of 14 words spoken by an early leader in the Neo-Nazi movement. The reason for the 88 deaths is because the 8th letter of the alphabet is H so for them 88 stands for HH which stands for Heil Hitler.
Then they each planned to get a white tuxedo to wear in their car when they drove through some crowd where Obama was going to be with all guns blazing away; they cheerfully expected to die doing that. We can easily see that those groups I’ve named are not at all useful in helping the country rid itself of racism.
Oh and Linda,
I look forward to future banter. If you were 20 years younger…..GRRRRR!
But seriously, I enjoy the fact that you do not take me…well seriously!
bth
Posted December 11, 2008 at 5:46 pm | Permalink
“continental drift” (more correctly referred to as Plate Tectonics) has been well established for several decades.
Remember – gravity is only a theory too.
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And one that can be actually be demonstrated. Obviously, not all scientific theories have the same level of certitude.
I get fixated on silly things: on Dec. 10, there were 163 postings in about 15 hours; today, in a little over 12 hours, there have been 384 postings.
Since I’m fairly new to the blogosphere, I’m wondering if this is typical or something strange was going on–like me, I have posted about 3 times so far today & usually don’t post more than that in a week.
ANTI announces:
“I am sure the Libs are upset, but I have a rather extensive building project to attend to.”
Hmmmmm maybe his slave woman exiled him to a dog house that is yet to be built…
Here’s the theory Cos. It’s as old as the earth is itself. Just like the Flat earth society, there are many deniers. For thousands of years man has observed the data.
This old as dirt theory is: THE NATURAL CLIMATE/WEATHER CYCLE. The data speaks for itself no matter who comes along and tries to think they can change it. He is just too arrogant to realize it.
The more we learn from science, the more we discover that we don’t know as much as we think we do. We should always be skeptical about such boasts about man’s effect, past and future. As I’ve said before, science is never “settled”.
Donnyboy still doesnt get it….
Climate and WEATHER are not the same thing. Cosmos, make him write it on the black board 100 times:
“CLIMATE AND WEATHER ARE NOT THE SAME THING.”
ANTI,
If anyone took all the stuff on this blog seriously they’d be nuckin futs. ;-)
I heard on NPR that the auto bailout may not happen…can’t imagine millions in the auto industry losing their jobs and benefits. Our country is in real trouble.
We scientists are very familiar with these cycles.
Mary – to some extent I agree with much that the Republican senators are saying. I agree with them that some conditions need to be placed on the bailout. And I especially do not trust BushCo to run it as they did the financial industry bailout.
The Republican Senators are playing their little game. But already have begun to talk and once they’ve gotten enough attention will come around. Later, they will be able to jump off the fence they prefer to sit on and say either, “I told you so,” or “it had to be done.”
Auto bailout prospects revived in Senate
Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:28pm EST
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Prospects for an auto industry bailout revived in the U.S. Senate on Thursday as surprise negotiations on a compromise moved forward and a vote was possible later in the day.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said on the Senate floor that the deal, if struck, “would overwhelmingly pass” the chamber that just hours ago seemed resigned to sending the automakers back to Detroit empty-handed.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE4B50CL20081212
I agree, I think they need to have really strict oversight when they get the money. The bailout of AIG and all the others isn’t going very well. I know you can’t cure stupid, but it’s also apparant that you can’t cure greed.
I’m just sick about what is going on in our economy and how it is affecting hard working American’s lives. It’s just so sad.
donndublin posted December 11, 2008 at 6:17 pm
This old as dirt theory is: THE NATURAL CLIMATE/WEATHER CYCLE.
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So “NATURE” is releasing huge amounts of CO2, by burning coal and oil in our power plants, vehicles, etc? “NATURE” is clear-cutting forests, and causing other land-use changes? “NATURE” has released huge amounts of methane, by raising livestock, drilling for nat gas, etc? “NATURE” produced and released CFC’s?
donndublin’s gone from stupid and lying, to just plain ridiculous.
Too bad he cannot do the two things that he needs to do:
Refute the AGW theory, and offer a credible alternative theory to the recent observed warming.
Mary, linda – I believe the Congress is justifiably very ‘bailout fatigued’. They have seen the BushCo mismanagement of the financial industry bailout. So, there is a lot of distrust as to just how BushCo might handle the Detroit car bailout.
Here are the brave Americans you killed, CONs.
They died for your lies.
Date Name Status Cause of Death Place of Death
11/06/08 McClellan, William Justin Pending Hostile – hostile Walter Reed Army Medical Center
12/04/08 Sam, Solomon T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide car bomb Mosul
12/04/08 Savage, John J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide car bomb Mosul
11/25/08 Frank, Warren A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baiji
11/24/08 Davis, Anthony DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baiji
11/24/08 Jernigan, William K. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Ba’qubah
11/21/08 Wilson, Miguel A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – during rescue attempt Mosul
11/20/08 Barnett, Charles Yi DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Tallil
11/19/08 Velasco, Marcelo R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Falluja
11/15/08 Humphreys, Christian P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Mosul
11/15/08 Clark, Donald V. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Mosul
11/14/08 Allen, Aaron M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ferris (near Fallujah)
11/13/08 Clay, James M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Al Anbar Province
11/13/08 De La Paz, Armando A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Baghdad
11/12/08 Regalado, Jose DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
11/12/08 Shea, Corey M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
11/08/08 Walker, Timothy H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED Baghdad (northern part)
11/06/08 Hobbs, Theron V. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Kirkuk
11/05/08 Wenger, Adam McKamey DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Tunnis
10/29/08 Coleman, Bradley S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Qayyarah Airfield
10/29/08 Metcalf, Scott J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Mosul (died in Balad)
10/24/08 Eggleston, Cody J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda
10/23/08 Hause, Brian P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – medical Balad Air Base
10/20/08 Dryden, Stacy A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Al Asad
10/16/08 Pickard, Heath K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Ba’qubah
10/15/08 Saint, Justin A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
10/14/08 McCraw, Christopher A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (Nasar Wa Salam)
10/12/08 Johnson, Geoffrey G. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
10/11/08 Fernandez III, Reuben M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Majar Al Kabir (Amara)
10/07/08 Clark, Michael K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
10/05/08 Stahlman, Michael R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Anbar Province
10/05/08 Rudd, William P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
10/03/08 Setzler, Tavarus D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Majar al-Kabir
09/30/08 Bartkiewicz, Christopher A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (northern part)
09/29/08 Fox, Christopher T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Adhamiyah
09/27/08 Bryant, Jamel A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Baghdad (Southeast of)
09/25/08 Phillips Jr., Ronald DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Bahbahani
09/24/08 Medders, Michael J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Jisr Naft
09/23/08 Brown, Thomas J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Salman Pak
09/21/08 Taylor, Matthew J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
09/18/08 Edwards, Corry A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Eshbaugh, Daniel M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Mason, Anthony L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Ordonez, Julio C. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Rudolf, Brady J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Thompson, Michael E. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Vallejo II, Robert DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/17/08 Wright, Darrick D. DoD Confirmation Non-Hostile – Illness – Heart Attack Baghdad
09/17/08 Gulczynski I, Leonard J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Baghdad
09/14/08 Marceaux Jr., Sidney J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Walter Reed Army Medical Center
09/14/08 Marino, Ralph J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Camp Buehring
09/14/08 Durbin, Wesley R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – shooting incident Tunnis
09/14/08 Dawson, Darris J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – shooting incident Tunnis
09/10/08 Sexton, Daniel R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad (Joint Base Balad)
09/05/08 Thibeault, Jordan P. P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad (FOB Hammer)
09/04/08 Thomas, Bryan R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
09/04/08 Mayne, Kenneth W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
09/02/08 May, Patrick W. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/28/08 Nieve, Jorge L. Feliz DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Mosul
08/28/08 Gonzalez, Michael L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
08/27/08 Cooper, David K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Qadasiyah
08/26/08 Alfonso, Carlo E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Sadr City)
08/25/08 Fitzmorris, Steven J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Adhamiyah
08/19/08 Stanciel, George DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – mortar attack Amarah
08/17/08 Stottlemyer, Travis M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Manama
08/14/08 King, Janelle F. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/14/08 McGuire, Daniel A. C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Falluja
08/13/08 Hale, James M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwestern part)
08/10/08 Ferschke Jr., Michael H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Tikrit (southwest of)
08/10/08 Gibson, Kenneth B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tarmiya
08/09/08 Ulloa, Jose E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Sadr City)
08/07/08 Maybin, Danny E. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Camp Arifjan
08/07/08 Trejo, Stewart S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Karma
08/07/08 McKiski, Adam T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Karma
08/04/08 Hutton, Timothy J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/04/08 Menke, Jonathan D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED Baghdad
08/04/08 Henry, Gary M DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED Baghdad
08/03/08 Schmidt, Ronald Andrew DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Baghdad
08/02/08 Miller, Brian K. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Abd Allah
08/02/08 Cole, Jennifer L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – gunshot wound Baiji
08/02/08 Dickson, Kevin R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad
07/31/08 Mitchell, Andre Darnell DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Mosul
07/30/08 McHale, James A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda,
07/17/08 Larsen, Jackie L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad (Balad Air Base)
07/15/08 Textor, David W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Mosul
07/15/08 Vrooman, Jeremy D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Knan (died in Baghdad)
07/14/08 Verbeke, Daniel R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – accident (on flight deck) Paoli, Pennsylvania
07/14/08 Dupre, Danny DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Ramadi
07/13/08 Stevenson, Jeffery S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Falluja
07/09/08 Jimenez, Alex R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – body found Jurf al-Sakhar
07/09/08 Fouty, Byron J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – body found Jurf al-Sakhar
07/09/08 Chevalier, Steven J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – grenade Samarra (died in Balad)
07/08/08 McMillan III, William L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (west of)
07/05/08 Woodham, Anthony Lynn DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – electrocution Tallil (Camp Adder)
06/26/08 Preudhomme, Marcus W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Al Anbar Province
06/26/08 Dykeman, Philip J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
06/26/08 Galeai, Max A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
06/25/08 Plocica, Joshua L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (EFP) Baghdad (eastern part)
06/25/08 Dominguez, Alejandro A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
06/25/08 Taylor, Joel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
06/25/08 Yohn, James M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
06/24/08 Hammett, Robert C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – Explosion Baghdad (Sadr City)
06/24/08 Kelley, Dwayne M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – bomb Baghdad (Sadr City)
06/23/08 Dalessio, Gregory T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Madain
06/23/08 Thomas, Bryan M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Madain (died in Baghdad)
06/20/08 Tran, Du Hai DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ba’qubah
06/16/08 Cox, Jason N. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Hillah
06/12/08 Aragon, John D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kadamiyah
06/11/08 Kanakaole, Eugene D. M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – Shot in head Balad
06/11/08 Watters, Kelly E. C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
06/11/08 Perales Jr., Javier DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Fallujah
06/11/08 Reed, Gerard M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
06/10/08 McCoy, Steve A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio,
06/09/08 Duncan III, Thomas F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Sinjar
06/08/08 Pickett, Tyler E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Kirkuk
06/07/08 Hurst, David R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
06/04/08 Legg, Cody R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Al Hawijah
06/04/08 Emard, Jonathan D. A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Al Hawijah
06/04/08 Duffy, Shane P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Al Hawijah
06/03/08 Waltenbaugh, Joshua E. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Taji
06/03/08 Green, Quincy J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Tikrit
06/01/08 McCarthy, Christopher D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile FOB Ramadi
06/01/08 Mixon, Justin R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (EFP) Baghdad (northeastern part)
05/30/08 Cotner, Christian S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Al Asad
05/25/08 Gasper, Frank J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Najaf
05/25/08 Evans, Blake W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Jazeera Desert
05/25/08 Dene, Jason F. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Baghdad
05/22/08 Norris, Kyle Phillip DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Iskandariyah (died in Balad)
05/18/08 Haunert, Branden P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tikrit
05/15/08 Daggett, John K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Halifax, Canada
05/14/08 Cota, Victor M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Kadamiyah)
05/11/08 Ellis, Jessica A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwest of)
05/10/08 Ford, Joseph A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Al Asad
05/09/08 Jaenichen, Mary J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Iskandariyah
05/06/08 Ward, Aaron J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Anbar Province
05/06/08 Gonzalez, Alex D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, RPG Mosul
05/02/08 Hicks, Corey L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
05/01/08 Casanova, Casey L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
05/01/08 Guzman, Miguel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
05/01/08 Kimple, James F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
05/01/08 Martinez, Glen E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
05/01/08 Nichols, Jeffrey F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Baghdad (central)
04/30/08 Caldwell, Chad A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
04/30/08 Pearson, Andrew. R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
04/30/08 Tucker, Ronald J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
04/30/08 Ezell, Lawrence D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northern part)
04/29/08 Craig, Clay A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (northeastern part)
04/29/08 Bolander, Bryan E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/28/08 McCormick, David P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – Rocket fire Baghdad (western part)
04/28/08 Marion, Adam L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
04/28/08 Mathes, Marcus C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
04/28/08 Stone, Mark A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
04/27/08 Dix, William T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Camp Buehring
04/24/08 Whitehead, Shaun J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Iskandariyah
04/23/08 Ramirez, Guadalupe Cervantes DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Camp Arifjan
04/23/08 Bishop, John T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Golden Hills
04/23/08 Cunningham, Timothy W. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Golden Hills
04/23/08 Blystone, Ronald C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part)
04/22/08 Harrison, Ronald R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury FOB Falcon (nr. Baghdad)
04/22/08 Haerter, Jordan C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Ramadi (near)
04/22/08 Yale, Jonathan T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Ramadi (near)
04/21/08 Campos, Adrian M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Dubai
04/21/08 Vandergrift, Matthew R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Basra
04/21/08 Christofferson, Steven J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baiji
04/21/08 Kohlhaas, Adam J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baiji
04/20/08 Morton, Cherie L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Galali, Muharraq
04/18/08 Brosh, Benjamin K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Balad
04/18/08 Eakes, Lance O. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (north of)
04/17/08 Brown, Jason L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, grenade Sama Village
04/14/08 Huerta-Cruz, Arturo DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tuz
04/14/08 Richard III, Joseph A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
04/14/08 Nelson, Richard J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
04/14/08 Opicka, Dean D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
04/12/08 Allmon, William E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/11/08 German, Merlin DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Brooke Army Med Center, TX
04/09/08 Capra, Anthony L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/09/08 Hughes, Jeremiah C. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Baghdad
04/09/08 Ault, Jesse A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tunis (died in Baghdad)
04/09/08 Tousha, Shaun P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/09/08 Fairbanks, Jacob J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – suicide Baghdad
04/08/08 Hartley, Jeffery L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kharguliah
04/08/08 Rosenberg, Mark E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/07/08 Smith, Timothy M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/07/08 Lilly, Michael T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
04/07/08 Kazarick, Jason C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
04/07/08 Vaughn, Richard A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part)
04/06/08 McNeal, Jeremiah E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/06/08 Pickett, Emanuel DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/06/08 Penley, Shane D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Rustamiyah
04/06/08 Scott, Stephen K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Baghdad (Green Zone)
04/06/08 Wolfer, Stuart A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Baghdad (Green Zone)
04/06/08 Burgos-Cruz, Ulises DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province (Died in Balad)
04/06/08 Morris, Matthew T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province (Died in Balad)
04/03/08 Griffin, Travis L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (near)
03/31/08 Dhanoolal, Dayne D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
03/30/08 Gilmore, Terrell W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
03/29/08 Jordan, Jevon K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Landstuhl Reg. Med. Ctr. (Abu Jassim)
03/30/08 Hall, William G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
03/29/08 Bennett, Durrell L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
03/29/08 Miller, Patrick J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
03/28/08 Jankowski, Charles A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
03/27/08 Molina, Joshua A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
03/26/08 Candelo, Steven I. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
03/26/08 Rundell, Gregory B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Taji
03/25/08 Gamboa, Joseph D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
03/23/08 Delgado, George DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
03/23/08 Hake, Christopher M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
03/23/08 Hernandez, Jose A. Rubio DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
03/23/08 Habsieger, Andrew J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
03/22/08 Ray, II, Thomas C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwest of)
03/22/08 Williams, David B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwest of)
03/22/08 Stelmat, David S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwest of)
03/21/08 Smith, Tyler J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
03/21/08 Maupin, Keith M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Abu Ghuraib (north of)
03/19/08 Unruh, Gregory D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Mandali
03/17/08 Elledge, Michael D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (north of)
03/17/08 Simpson, Christopher C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (north of)
03/15/08 Brown, Lerando J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad
03/15/08 O’Brien, William D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
03/12/08 Bradley, Juantrea T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Tallil
03/12/08 Jackson, Dustin C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Tallil
03/12/08 Samten, Tenzin L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Tallil
03/11/08 West, Laurent J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kishkishkia
03/10/08 Anderson, Phillip R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad Ruz
03/10/08 Burkett, Donald A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad Ruz
03/10/08 Mallard, Torre R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad Ruz
03/10/08 Suzch, Shawn M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/10/08 Cimarrusti, Ernesto G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/10/08 Julian, David D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/10/08 McDavid, Robert T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/10/08 McIntosh, Scott A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/07/08 Paniagua-Morales, Jose A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – explosion Samarra (died in Balad)
03/04/08 Frost, Christopher S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Bayji
02/25/08 Mowl, Kevin S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Bethesda Naval Hosp., MD
02/24/08 Perez, Orlando A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
02/24/08 Phillips, Micheal E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
02/22/08 Morgan, Keisha M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Baghdad
02/21/08 Weaver, Drew W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Anbar Province
02/20/08 Raudenbush, Nathan R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Busayefi
02/20/08 Mackey, Bryant W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Mosul
02/20/08 Alvarez, Conrad DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
02/20/08 Bitton, Albert DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
02/20/08 Matlock, Jr., Micheal B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
02/17/08 Runyan, Luke S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Diyala Province
02/17/08 Groepper, Chad D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Diyala Province
02/14/08 Washington, Javares J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Kuwait City (Camp Buehring)
02/10/08 Spates, Corey E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province
02/08/08 Sweet, Jack T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – explosion Jalawlah
02/08/08 Manibog, Michael T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
02/08/08 Martin, Timothy P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
02/08/08 Whisenhunt, Jerald A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
02/08/08 Willett, Gary D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
02/07/08 Souffront, Luis A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Iraq
02/06/08 Skelton, Bradley J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
02/05/08 Van Orman, Timothy R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah (died in Balad)
02/05/08 Osmolski, John C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah (died in Balad)
02/05/08 Baez, Miguel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah (died in Balad)
02/05/08 Alicearivera, Rafael DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – drowning Tallil
02/04/08 West, Christopher J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah (Died in Balad)
02/04/08 Hardy, Nathan H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Not reported yet
02/04/08 Koch, Michael E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Not reported yet
02/02/08 Barrett, Chad A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Mosul
01/31/08 Straughter, Matthew F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
01/31/08 Schultz, David E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Scania
01/31/08 Norman, Michael A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
01/28/08 Craig, James E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/28/08 Jeffries, Gary W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/28/08 Marshall, Evan A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/28/08 Meyer, Brandon A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/28/08 Young, Joshua A. R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/27/08 Miller, Mikeal W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda
01/27/08 Rogers, Alan G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
01/26/08 Wilson, Robert J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
01/25/08 Crookston, Duncan Charles DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Brooke Army Med Center, TX
01/25/08 Birkman, Tracy Renee DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Owaset
01/22/08 Sturdivant, Michael R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Kirkuk
01/19/08 Whiting, Justin R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/19/08 Gluff, James M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
01/19/08 Burress, Richard B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
01/19/08 Schoolcraft III, Jon M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
01/16/08 Kimme, Danny L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, grenade Balad
01/16/08 Sharrett II, David H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, grenade Balad
01/16/08 Sigsbee, John P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, grenade Balad (died in Pallouata)
01/12/08 Lloyd, Keith E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED Tall Afar
01/11/08 Christensen Jr., Curtis A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Al Anbar Province
01/09/08 Davis, Todd E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (house borne) Sinsil
01/09/08 Gaul, Sean M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (house borne) Sinsil
01/09/08 Sanders, Christopher A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (house borne) Sinsil
01/09/08 Pionk, Matthew I. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (house borne) Sinsil
01/09/08 Dozier, Jonathan Kilian DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (house borne) Sinsil
01/09/08 McBride, Zachary W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (house borne) Sinsil
01/08/08 Hart, David J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Samarra (died in Balad)
01/08/08 Merlo, Ivan E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Samarra
01/08/08 Pannier, Phillip J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Samarra
01/07/08 Hanson, Timothy R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Salman Pak
01/06/08 Gudridge, James D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
01/05/08 Lemke, Jason F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ibrahim Al Adham
01/04/08 Brown, Menelek M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – drowning Arabian Gulf
01/03/08 Olmsted, Andrew J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Sadiyah
01/03/08 Casey, Thomas J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Sadiyah
01/02/08 Maseth, Ryan D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – electrocution Baghdad
01/02/08 Anderson, Joshua R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kamasia
12/31/07 Lacerna, Reno S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Qayyarah
12/31/07 Jeffries, Victor W. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Kuwait
12/30/07 Berlin Jr., Joseph R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Baghdad
12/26/07 Inman, Rowdy J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
12/26/07 Portell, Benjamin B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
12/25/07 Tutten, Bryan J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad
12/25/07 Neesley, Peter C. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – unspecified cause Baghdad
12/21/07 Howell, George J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Riyadh (near Hawijah)
12/20/07 Ray, Jeremy E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Kanaan
12/17/07 McDaniel, Juctin R. P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Taji (Camp Taji)
12/15/07 Pratt, Austin D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad (Died in Balad)
12/14/07 Lowery, Jonathan A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
12/13/07 Smith, Daren A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
12/13/07 Kelsey, Samuel E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tunis
12/13/07 Naylor, Brynn J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
12/11/07 Carter, Mark T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Iraq – details not released
12/10/07 Lahmann, Johnathan A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (suicide vehic Baiji
12/09/07 Pickering, Randy W. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
12/05/07 Snyder, Adam P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Bayji (died in Balad)
12/04/07 Hernandez, Eric J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Bayji
12/04/07 White, Dewayne L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Bayji
12/03/07 Dayton, Kyle DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Ashwah
12/01/07 Reece, Matthew K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
11/30/07 Emery, Blair William DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ba’qubah
11/28/07 Tobiason, John J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
11/28/07 Roberts, Allen C. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Al Asad
11/27/07 Cortes, Isaac T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Amerli
11/27/07 Garrison, Benjamin J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Amerli
11/22/07 Martin, Jonathon L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Regensburg, Germany
11/21/07 Henley Jr., Melvin L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad (Camp Stryker)
11/20/07 Paredez Jr., Alfred G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
11/19/07 Ayala, Alejandro DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Kuwait
11/18/07 Ferrero, Marius L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Ba’qubah
11/18/07 Lee, Jason T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Ba’qubah (died in Balad)
11/18/07 Nelson, Christopher J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Ba’qubah
11/16/07 Ganczewski, Steven C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
11/16/07 Lewis, Mason L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – accident Baghdad
11/14/07 Burks, Peter H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
11/14/07 Banks, Derek R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack San Antonio, Texas
11/14/07 Booker, Kenneth R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mukhisa
11/13/07 Mason, Casey P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul (near)
11/13/07 Kruse, Christopher R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mukhisa
11/13/07 Schmidt, Peter W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mukhisa
11/12/07 Sietsema, Ashley DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Kuwait City
11/12/07 Vanek, Joseph M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
11/09/07 Franklin, Jermaine D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, grenades Jisr Naft
11/07/07 Tiffner, Benjamin D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
11/07/07 Tumanuvao, Lui DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
11/06/07 Ndururi, Christine M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Camp Arifjan
11/05/07 Shaw, Daniel J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Taji
11/05/07 Bewley, Kevin R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Salah Ad Din Province
11/05/07 Davis, Carletta S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tal Al-Dahab
11/05/07 Linde, John D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tal Al-Dahab
11/05/07 Stenroos, Derek T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tal Al-Dahab
11/05/07 Muller, Adam J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tal Al-Dahab
11/03/07 Covert Jr., Dwane A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – explosion Al Sahra
11/01/07 Alger, Tracy Lynn DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Shubayshen
11/01/07 Crowell, Thomas A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad (near Balad Air Base)
11/01/07 Wieger, David A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad (near Balad Air Base)
11/01/07 Schuldheiss, Nathan J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad (near Balad Air Base)
10/31/07 Griese, Louis A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Samarra
10/31/07 McGovern, Timothy I. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
10/31/07 Smitherman, Brandon W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
10/30/07 McCall, Daniel L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Salman Pak (died in Baghdad)
10/30/07 Carver, Cody M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Salman Pak
10/30/07 Jenkins, Rush “Mickey” Marshall DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Salman Pak
10/26/07 Lambert, David E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
10/24/07 Towns Sr., Robin L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baiji
10/24/07 Chitjian, Adam J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Balad
10/22/07 Camacho, Anamarie Sannicolas DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Bahrain
10/22/07 Gresham, Genesia Mattril DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Bahrain
10/19/07 Garoutte, Erik T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
10/18/07 Geiger, Wayne M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
10/18/07 Fontenot, Jarred S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
10/17/07 Madero, Vincent A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad
10/16/07 Brown, Micheal D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Landstuhl Reg. Med. Ctr.
10/14/07 Martin, Thomas M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (Al Busayifi)
10/14/07 Iwasinski, Kenneth J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
10/14/07 Monschke, Justin S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
10/14/07 Koutroubas, Jason B. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Tall Afar
10/12/07 Thacker, Nathan Z. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kirkuk
10/11/07 Munn II, Donald L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
10/10/07 Duckworth, Eric T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
10/10/07 Pearson, Samuel F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – Rocket attack Camp Victory (at Baghdad Airport)
10/10/07 Clamens, Lillian DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – Rocket attack Camp Victory (at Baghdad Airport)
10/10/07 Lantieri, Jason M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Iskandariyah
10/10/07 Cady III, Frank L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
10/08/07 Burris, Jeremy W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
10/07/07 Dillon, Benjamin C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Nothern Iraq
10/06/07 Meza, Gilberto A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
10/05/07 Hugo, Rachael L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Bayji
10/05/07 Milledge, Joseph B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southeast part)
10/05/07 Marchand, Jason N. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southeast part)
10/04/07 Kamka, Vincent G. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baiji
10/04/07 Rodriguez, Ricardo X. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Bayji
10/04/07 Milo, Avealalo DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
10/01/07 Schnell, Shayna Ann DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Bahrain
10/01/07 Murkerson Jr., Herman J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
09/30/07 Olguin, Randell DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
09/29/07 Vidhyarkorn, Chirasak DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Diwaniyah
09/29/07 Doster, James D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part)
09/29/07 Ayres III, Robert T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
09/29/07 Dixon, Donnie D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baloor (near Muqdadiyah)
09/27/07 Johnson, Randy L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
09/25/07 Tomczak, Zachary B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
09/25/07 Brown, Kevin R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah
09/24/07 Bento, Anthony K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Bayji
09/22/07 Watson, David L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – accident Ba’qubah
09/22/07 Reeves, Joshua H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
09/22/07 Lankford, Jonathan M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness – heart attack Diyala Province
09/21/07 Young, John J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad (Camp Stryker)
09/20/07 Hoffmaster, Roselle M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – accident Kirkuk
09/20/07 Marciante Jr., Luigi DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah
09/19/07 McMahon, Graham M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Balad
09/19/07 Neff, Christian M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (West of)
09/18/07 Jeffers, Edmund J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – accident Al Taqaddum
09/18/07 Walker, Aaron J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
09/18/07 Emerson, Matthew J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Ninawa Province
09/18/07 Landry III, Joseph N. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah
09/18/07 Olson, Nicholas P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah
09/18/07 Valentine III, Donald E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah
09/16/07 Townes, Michael L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad
09/15/07 Thorsen, Brandon T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
09/15/07 Allen, Terrence P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Al Anbar Province
09/14/07 Mele, John DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
09/14/07 Wagoner, Terry D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province
09/14/07 Motley, Todd A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province
09/14/07 Rivadeneira, Jonathan DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province
09/14/07 McCloud, Christopher M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province
09/10/07 Hicks Jr., Jon T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ashraf
09/10/07 Gil Orozco, Carlos E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
09/10/07 Rivera-Santiago, Gregory DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Baghdad (western part)
09/10/07 Hardegree, Michael C. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Baghdad (western part)
09/10/07 Patterson, Nicholas J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Baghdad (western part)
09/10/07 Brown-Weeks, Ari D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Baghdad (western part)
09/10/07 Elrod, Steven R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Baghdad (western part)
09/10/07 Gray, Yance T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Baghdad (western part)
09/10/07 Mora, Omar L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Baghdad (western part)
09/10/07 Phillips, Sammie E. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover (fire) Baghdad (East of)
09/09/07 Gagalac, Alexander U. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Hawijah
09/09/07 Hollinsworth, Courtney DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, rpg Baghdad (western part)
09/08/07 Woodward, Ryan A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (near) (died in Balad)
09/08/07 Hopper, Nickolas Lee DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Havelock, IL (Hit)
09/07/07 Heredia, Marisol DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Brooke Army Med Center, TX
09/07/07 Clark, Lance M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Al Anbar Province
09/07/07 Jensen, Drew N. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Seattle (wounded in Ba’qubah)
09/07/07 Hilbert, Thomas L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
09/07/07 Hernandez, Jason J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
09/06/07 Wilson, Lee C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
09/06/07 Poole Jr., Christopher L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide truck bomb Albu Hyatt
09/06/07 Scripsick, Bryan J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Albu Hyatt
09/06/07 Stock, John C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Albu Hyatt
09/06/07 Yarbrough, Michael J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Albu Hyatt
09/05/07 Cooper Jr., David A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – weapon discharge Baghdad
09/05/07 Warford III, William T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ad Dujayl
09/05/07 Balcon, Dane R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad
09/05/07 Paredes, Javier G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad (eastern part)
09/05/07 Nurnberg, Keith A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Baghdad (eastern part)
09/04/07 Johnson, Rodney J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
09/04/07 Murray, Joel L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
09/04/07 Lane, David J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
09/04/07 Shelton, Randol S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
09/02/07 White, Delmar DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (near)
09/01/07 Patton, Christopher G. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/31/07 Gilbertson, Kevin A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Landstuhl Reg. Med. Ctr. (Ramadi)
08/30/07 Scheibner, Daniel E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Noor
08/30/07 Butkus, Jason M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
08/30/07 Virgadamo, Travis M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Taji
08/29/07 Sanders, Justin T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Taji
08/29/07 Nelson, Andrew P DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Muqdadiyah
08/29/07 Brooks, Edward L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ramadi
08/29/07 Tanner, John C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Albu Hyatt
08/29/07 Foster, Erick M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah (Died in Balad)
08/28/07 Collins Jr., James S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Kirkuk
08/26/07 Morley, Joshua L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Samarra
08/26/07 Willis, Tracy C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Samarra
08/26/07 Ramirez, Rogelio A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Saqlawiyah
08/25/07 Medlicott, Matthew S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Taqaddum
08/24/07 Heringes, David A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tikrit (near)
08/23/07 Tully, Michael J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
08/23/07 Elizalde, Adrian M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
08/22/07 Cardenas, Edgar E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Abu Ghurayb)
08/22/07 Torres, Omar E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (west of)
08/22/07 Tallman, Matthew L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Flynn, Paul J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Tyler, Corry Paul DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Bell, Rickey L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Bouffard, Jeremy P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Seideman, Tyler R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Dobogai, Derek A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Paton, Jason L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 McLead, Garrett I. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Pollard, Jessy G. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Brodnick, Phillip J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Hook, Michael A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Harmon, Joshua S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/22/07 Hubbard, Nathan C. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Multaka
08/21/07 Britt, Sandy R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (near)
08/21/07 Witham, Donovan D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (West of)
08/19/07 Fielder, Michael S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/17/07 Edds, Jonathan W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part)
08/16/07 Powell-Kerchief, Willard M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Tarmiya (died in Balad)
08/16/07 Norris, Paul B. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/16/07 Block, Kamisha J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/15/07 Pirelli, Robert R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Ba’qubah
08/15/07 Samuels, Princess C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Taji
08/15/07 Walker, Zandra T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Taji
08/14/07 Johnson, Christopher DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Al Taqaddum Air Base (vicinity of)
08/14/07 McFarlane Jr, Jackie L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Al Taqaddum Air Base (vicinity of)
08/14/07 Fisher, Sean P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Al Taqaddum Air Base (vicinity of)
08/14/07 Reynolds, Stanley B. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Al Taqaddum Air Base (vicinity of)
08/14/07 Jewell, Steven R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Al Taqaddum Air Base (vicinity of)
08/14/07 Hensel, Shawn D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (western part)
08/13/07 Cottrell, Eric D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Qarrayah
08/13/07 Lopez Jr., Juan M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Qayyarah
08/13/07 Pacificador, Paulomarko U. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Qayyarah
08/13/07 Howells, Alun R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Baghdad (western part)
08/11/07 Scates, William D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
08/11/07 Kirkpatrick, Scott L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
08/11/07 Lancaster, Andrew W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
08/11/07 Penrod, Justin O. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
08/11/07 Edwards, William L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – sniper fire Baghdad
08/10/07 Duran, Joan J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Tikrit
08/09/07 Tayaotao, Michael E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Haditha
08/09/07 Birchett, Alicia A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – accident Baghdad
08/08/07 Young, Donald M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
08/07/07 Armand, Reynold DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad
08/07/07 Bonnell Jr., Jon E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
08/06/07 Neiberger, Christopher T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
08/06/07 Thompson, Jacob M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ba’qubah
08/06/07 Gummersall, Nicholas A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ba’qubah
08/06/07 Alcantara, Juan M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ba’qubah
08/06/07 Khan, Kareem R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ba’qubah
08/05/07 Bohannon, Jeremy S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
08/05/07 Blackwell. Justin R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
08/05/07 Link, Joey D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – natural causes Landstuhl Reg. Med. Ctr.
08/05/07 Leonard Jr., Charles E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad (eastern part)
08/04/07 Wakeman, Dustin S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Hawr Rajab
08/04/07 Lafleur, Jason K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Hawr Rajab
08/04/07 Holliday, Jaron D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Hawr Rajab
08/04/07 Long, Braden J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad (western part)
08/04/07 Murchison, Matthew M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
08/02/07 Vasquez, Cristian DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Qaim
08/02/07 Santos, Fernando DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
08/02/07 Rojas-Gallego, Cristian DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
08/02/07 Salinas, Eric D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
08/02/07 Rios, Julian Ingles DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad (western part)
08/01/07 Bachman, Travis S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Basra (died in Mosul)
07/31/07 Marshall, Bradley W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Tunis
07/31/07 Reyes, Daniel F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Tunis
07/31/07 Maddies, Stephen R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
07/31/07 Gonzalez, Zachariah J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
07/31/07 Heinlein Jr., Charles T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
07/31/07 Jairala, Alfred H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
07/30/07 Kessler, Jason M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Northern Iraq
07/30/07 Stokes, Sean A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Taqaddum
07/29/07 Suliveras, Wilberto DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Taji
07/29/07 Grater, Cody C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – direct fire Baghdad (eastern part)
07/26/07 Baloga, Michael A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah
07/26/07 Howdeshell, William R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Saqlawiyah
07/26/07 Bilbrey Jr., Charles E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Saqlawiyah
07/26/07 Rodriguez Jr., Jaime DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Saqlawiyah
07/25/07 Leckel, Daniel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
07/24/07 Florexil, Camy DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
07/24/07 Mattero, Joshua P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ba’qubah
07/24/07 Noble, Daniel S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Rushidiyah
07/24/07 Lynch, Robert A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Rushidiyah
07/24/07 McRae, James H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Rushidiyah
07/24/07 Zindars, Matthew R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Rushidiyah
07/24/07 Finch, Courtney D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Qayyarah
07/22/07 Twitty, Bobby L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Ramadi
07/22/07 Adams, Shawn G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Owaset
07/21/07 Scherer, Christopher G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Taqaddum
07/21/07 Schmuecker, Jacob S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Died in Balad)
07/20/07 Butler, Rhett A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Khan Bani Saad
07/19/07 Craig, Brandon M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Husayniyah
07/19/07 Coffelt, Ronald L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
07/18/07 Gutierrez-Rosales, Luis E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Adhamiyah
07/18/07 Gilmore III, Richard DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Adhamiyah
07/18/07 Gomez, Daniel E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Adhamiyah
07/18/07 Clouser, Zachary DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Adhamiyah
07/17/07 Harrelson, James J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
07/17/07 Chaney, Jeffrey L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Samarra
07/17/07 Wade, Patrick L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Samarra
07/17/07 Barnes, Nathan S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Rushdi Mullah)
07/17/07 Joshua Jr., Ron J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
07/17/07 Bobb, Brandon K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
07/16/07 Starkovich, Shawn V. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Habbaniyah
07/15/07 Varga, Robert D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
07/15/07 Holke, Eric M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Tallil
07/15/07 Bartlett Jr., Benjamin B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Mosul
07/14/07 Massey, John R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (near) (died in Balad)
07/14/07 Kube, Christopher D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
07/14/07 Greka, Allen A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – land mine Jisr Diyala
07/11/07 Johnson, Courtney T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Besmaya
07/11/07 McKinney, Jeffrey R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – suicide – gunshot wound Adhamiyah
07/10/07 Ortiz, Maria I. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – mortar attack Baghdad (Green Zone)
07/08/07 Dore, Jason E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (west of)
07/07/07 DeLoach, Jerry L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Fort Knox, KY
07/07/07 Causor Jr., Roberto J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Samarra
07/06/07 Lockey, Jon M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
07/06/07 Lewis, Jason Dale DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (vicinity of)
07/06/07 McRill, Robert Richard DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (vicinity of)
07/06/07 Daugherty, Steven Phillip DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (vicinity of)
07/06/07 Wilson, Le Ron A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (South of)
07/06/07 Lamie, Gene L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (South of)
07/06/07 Salazar Jr., Bruce C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
07/06/07 Wiens, Kory D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
07/06/07 Lill, Eric A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Rustamiyah
07/05/07 Stacey, Jeremy L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
07/05/07 Allbaugh, Jeremy D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Qaim
07/05/07 Stacy, Steven A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Taqaddum
07/05/07 Ahearn, James M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
07/05/07 Kline, Keith A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
07/05/07 Vinnedge, Anthony M.K. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Radwaniyah Palace Complex
07/05/07 Ring, Michelle R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – mortar attack Baghdad (western part)
07/04/07 Engstrom, Andrew T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Taji
07/04/07 Oswell, Scott A.M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Mosul
07/04/07 Davis, Steven A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – grenade Baghdad (southern part)
07/02/07 Apineru, Faoa L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
07/02/07 Rutherford, Christopher N. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Asad
07/01/07 Tinnel, Jeremy L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – accident Albu Hyatt – Euphrates River
07/01/07 Chambers, William C. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – drowning Albu Hyatt – Euphrates River
07/01/07 Schill, Juan M. Garcia DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Ta’meem
07/01/07 Ruoff Jr., Michael L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Ta’meem
07/01/07 Buchan, Raymond R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Ta’meem
07/01/07 Garcia, Victor A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
07/01/07 Rossi, Jonathan M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (western part)
06/30/07 Rolfing, Robb L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
06/29/07 Adair, James L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
06/28/07 Crow Jr., William W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
06/28/07 Kim, Shin W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
06/28/07 Martinez, Michael J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
06/28/07 Mendoza, Giann C. Joya DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
06/28/07 Workman II, Dustin L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
06/28/07 Hiltz, Cory F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
06/27/07 Newsome, Daniel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
06/26/07 Dixon, Derek C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Saqlawiyah
06/26/07 Winder, Nathan L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Diwaniyah
06/25/07 Moretti, Trista L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Latifiya
06/25/07 Craig Jr., Andre DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
06/24/07 Byrd III, Henry G. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Landstuhl Reg. Med. Ctr.
06/24/07 Palmer, Eric C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Landstuhl Reg. Med. Ctr.
06/23/07 Kenny, Joseph P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Mosul
06/23/07 Dahl, Joel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
06/23/07 Nathan, Jason D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tikrit
06/23/07 Brown, William E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Taji
06/23/07 Riordan, Daniel P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
06/23/07 House, Joel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
06/23/07 Malone, Jimy M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
06/23/07 Calhoun, Derek A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
06/23/07 Moody Jr., Michael D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part – Mualameen)
06/23/07 Davis, Chris DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part – Mualameen)
06/23/07 Stinson, Shane M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part – Mualameen)
06/22/07 Montpetit, Michael J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Baghdad
06/22/07 Gamble Jr., Carter A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Duraiya
06/22/07 Rodriguez, Dominic N. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Baghdad
06/21/07 Veitch, Jerimiah J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
06/21/07 Clifton, Karen N. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad (northern part)
06/21/07 Spencer Jr., Raymond N. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (southwest part)
06/21/07 Montenegro II, Alphonso J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
06/21/07 Agami, Daniel J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
06/21/07 Wood, Ryan M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
06/21/07 Hebert, Anthony D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
06/21/07 Leemhuis, Thomas R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
06/20/07 Brookshire, Sid W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
06/20/07 Charfauros Jr., Joe G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
06/20/07 Bentz III, David J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
06/20/07 Hubbell, Darren P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
06/20/07 Martin, Shawn P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Saqlawiyah
06/20/07 Wilson, Stephen J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Saqlawiyah
06/19/07 Zapfe, William A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Muhammad al Ali)
06/19/07 Modgling, Joshua S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Muhammad al Ali)
06/19/07 Linder, Darryl W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ba’qubah
06/18/07 Sandoval, Frank M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Tikrit (died in Palo Alto, CA)
06/18/07 Tracy, Jacob T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Died in Balad)
06/18/07 Parks Jr., Larry DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Jabor
06/18/07 Snell, Eric L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part) (Died in Balad)
06/18/07 Wilkey Jr., David A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
06/16/07 Walkup IV, Frank B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Rashaad
06/16/07 Soto, Danny R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Rashidiyah
06/16/07 Grass. Zachary A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Rashidiyah
06/15/07 Pittman, Michael Patrick DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Baghdad (southern part)
06/15/07 Sonnenberg, Kevin H. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – jet crash Balad (Balad Air Base)
06/14/07 Parker, Richard K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack CSC Scania
06/14/07 Brisky, Dustin R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – explosion Tallil
06/14/07 Bechert, Michael A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack San Antonio, Texas
06/14/07 Roberts, Derek T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kirkuk (near)
06/14/07 Elazzouzi, Farid DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kirkuk (near)
06/14/07 Borm, Val John DoD Confirmation
Here are the names of the American soldiers who died for CON lies just since the immensely successful “surge”–
Date Name Status Cause of Death Place of Death
11/06/08 McClellan, William Justin Pending Hostile – hostile Walter Reed Army Medical Center
12/04/08 Sam, Solomon T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide car bomb Mosul
12/04/08 Savage, John J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide car bomb Mosul
11/25/08 Frank, Warren A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baiji
11/24/08 Davis, Anthony DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baiji
11/24/08 Jernigan, William K. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Ba’qubah
11/21/08 Wilson, Miguel A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – during rescue attempt Mosul
11/20/08 Barnett, Charles Yi DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Tallil
11/19/08 Velasco, Marcelo R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Falluja
11/15/08 Humphreys, Christian P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Mosul
11/15/08 Clark, Donald V. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Mosul
11/14/08 Allen, Aaron M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ferris (near Fallujah)
11/13/08 Clay, James M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Al Anbar Province
11/13/08 De La Paz, Armando A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Baghdad
11/12/08 Regalado, Jose DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
11/12/08 Shea, Corey M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
11/08/08 Walker, Timothy H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED Baghdad (northern part)
11/06/08 Hobbs, Theron V. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Kirkuk
11/05/08 Wenger, Adam McKamey DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Tunnis
10/29/08 Coleman, Bradley S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Qayyarah Airfield
10/29/08 Metcalf, Scott J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Mosul (died in Balad)
10/24/08 Eggleston, Cody J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda
10/23/08 Hause, Brian P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – medical Balad Air Base
10/20/08 Dryden, Stacy A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Al Asad
10/16/08 Pickard, Heath K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Ba’qubah
10/15/08 Saint, Justin A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
10/14/08 McCraw, Christopher A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (Nasar Wa Salam)
10/12/08 Johnson, Geoffrey G. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
10/11/08 Fernandez III, Reuben M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Majar Al Kabir (Amara)
10/07/08 Clark, Michael K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
10/05/08 Stahlman, Michael R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Anbar Province
10/05/08 Rudd, William P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Mosul
10/03/08 Setzler, Tavarus D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Majar al-Kabir
09/30/08 Bartkiewicz, Christopher A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (northern part)
09/29/08 Fox, Christopher T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Adhamiyah
09/27/08 Bryant, Jamel A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Baghdad (Southeast of)
09/25/08 Phillips Jr., Ronald DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Bahbahani
09/24/08 Medders, Michael J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Jisr Naft
09/23/08 Brown, Thomas J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Salman Pak
09/21/08 Taylor, Matthew J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
09/18/08 Edwards, Corry A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Eshbaugh, Daniel M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Mason, Anthony L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Ordonez, Julio C. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Rudolf, Brady J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Thompson, Michael E. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/18/08 Vallejo II, Robert DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Tallil
09/17/08 Wright, Darrick D. DoD Confirmation Non-Hostile – Illness – Heart Attack Baghdad
09/17/08 Gulczynski I, Leonard J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Baghdad
09/14/08 Marceaux Jr., Sidney J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Walter Reed Army Medical Center
09/14/08 Marino, Ralph J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Camp Buehring
09/14/08 Durbin, Wesley R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – shooting incident Tunnis
09/14/08 Dawson, Darris J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – shooting incident Tunnis
09/10/08 Sexton, Daniel R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad (Joint Base Balad)
09/05/08 Thibeault, Jordan P. P. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad (FOB Hammer)
09/04/08 Thomas, Bryan R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
09/04/08 Mayne, Kenneth W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
09/02/08 May, Patrick W. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/28/08 Nieve, Jorge L. Feliz DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Mosul
08/28/08 Gonzalez, Michael L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
08/27/08 Cooper, David K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Qadasiyah
08/26/08 Alfonso, Carlo E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Sadr City)
08/25/08 Fitzmorris, Steven J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Adhamiyah
08/19/08 Stanciel, George DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – mortar attack Amarah
08/17/08 Stottlemyer, Travis M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Manama
08/14/08 King, Janelle F. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/14/08 McGuire, Daniel A. C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Falluja
08/13/08 Hale, James M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwestern part)
08/10/08 Ferschke Jr., Michael H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Tikrit (southwest of)
08/10/08 Gibson, Kenneth B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tarmiya
08/09/08 Ulloa, Jose E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Sadr City)
08/07/08 Maybin, Danny E. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Camp Arifjan
08/07/08 Trejo, Stewart S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Karma
08/07/08 McKiski, Adam T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Karma
08/04/08 Hutton, Timothy J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
08/04/08 Menke, Jonathan D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED Baghdad
08/04/08 Henry, Gary M DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED Baghdad
08/03/08 Schmidt, Ronald Andrew DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Baghdad
08/02/08 Miller, Brian K. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Abd Allah
08/02/08 Cole, Jennifer L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – gunshot wound Baiji
08/02/08 Dickson, Kevin R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad
07/31/08 Mitchell, Andre Darnell DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Mosul
07/30/08 McHale, James A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda,
07/17/08 Larsen, Jackie L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad (Balad Air Base)
07/15/08 Textor, David W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Mosul
07/15/08 Vrooman, Jeremy D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Knan (died in Baghdad)
07/14/08 Verbeke, Daniel R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – accident (on flight deck) Paoli, Pennsylvania
07/14/08 Dupre, Danny DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Ramadi
07/13/08 Stevenson, Jeffery S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Falluja
07/09/08 Jimenez, Alex R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – body found Jurf al-Sakhar
07/09/08 Fouty, Byron J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – body found Jurf al-Sakhar
07/09/08 Chevalier, Steven J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – grenade Samarra (died in Balad)
07/08/08 McMillan III, William L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (west of)
07/05/08 Woodham, Anthony Lynn DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – electrocution Tallil (Camp Adder)
06/26/08 Preudhomme, Marcus W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Al Anbar Province
06/26/08 Dykeman, Philip J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
06/26/08 Galeai, Max A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
06/25/08 Plocica, Joshua L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (EFP) Baghdad (eastern part)
06/25/08 Dominguez, Alejandro A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
06/25/08 Taylor, Joel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
06/25/08 Yohn, James M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
06/24/08 Hammett, Robert C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – Explosion Baghdad (Sadr City)
06/24/08 Kelley, Dwayne M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – bomb Baghdad (Sadr City)
06/23/08 Dalessio, Gregory T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Madain
06/23/08 Thomas, Bryan M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Madain (died in Baghdad)
06/20/08 Tran, Du Hai DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Ba’qubah
06/16/08 Cox, Jason N. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Hillah
06/12/08 Aragon, John D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kadamiyah
06/11/08 Kanakaole, Eugene D. M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – Shot in head Balad
06/11/08 Watters, Kelly E. C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
06/11/08 Perales Jr., Javier DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Fallujah
06/11/08 Reed, Gerard M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Baghdad
06/10/08 McCoy, Steve A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio,
06/09/08 Duncan III, Thomas F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Sinjar
06/08/08 Pickett, Tyler E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Kirkuk
06/07/08 Hurst, David R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
06/04/08 Legg, Cody R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Al Hawijah
06/04/08 Emard, Jonathan D. A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Al Hawijah
06/04/08 Duffy, Shane P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Al Hawijah
06/03/08 Waltenbaugh, Joshua E. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Taji
06/03/08 Green, Quincy J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Tikrit
06/01/08 McCarthy, Christopher D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile FOB Ramadi
06/01/08 Mixon, Justin R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (EFP) Baghdad (northeastern part)
05/30/08 Cotner, Christian S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Al Asad
05/25/08 Gasper, Frank J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Najaf
05/25/08 Evans, Blake W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Jazeera Desert
05/25/08 Dene, Jason F. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Baghdad
05/22/08 Norris, Kyle Phillip DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Iskandariyah (died in Balad)
05/18/08 Haunert, Branden P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tikrit
05/15/08 Daggett, John K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Halifax, Canada
05/14/08 Cota, Victor M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (Kadamiyah)
05/11/08 Ellis, Jessica A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwest of)
05/10/08 Ford, Joseph A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Al Asad
05/09/08 Jaenichen, Mary J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Iskandariyah
05/06/08 Ward, Aaron J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Anbar Province
05/06/08 Gonzalez, Alex D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, RPG Mosul
05/02/08 Hicks, Corey L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (eastern part)
05/01/08 Casanova, Casey L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
05/01/08 Guzman, Miguel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
05/01/08 Kimple, James F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
05/01/08 Martinez, Glen E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
05/01/08 Nichols, Jeffrey F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Baghdad (central)
04/30/08 Caldwell, Chad A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
04/30/08 Pearson, Andrew. R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
04/30/08 Tucker, Ronald J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
04/30/08 Ezell, Lawrence D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northern part)
04/29/08 Craig, Clay A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (northeastern part)
04/29/08 Bolander, Bryan E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/28/08 McCormick, David P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – Rocket fire Baghdad (western part)
04/28/08 Marion, Adam L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
04/28/08 Mathes, Marcus C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
04/28/08 Stone, Mark A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
04/27/08 Dix, William T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Camp Buehring
04/24/08 Whitehead, Shaun J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED, small arms fire Iskandariyah
04/23/08 Ramirez, Guadalupe Cervantes DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Camp Arifjan
04/23/08 Bishop, John T. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Golden Hills
04/23/08 Cunningham, Timothy W. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Golden Hills
04/23/08 Blystone, Ronald C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part)
04/22/08 Harrison, Ronald R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury FOB Falcon (nr. Baghdad)
04/22/08 Haerter, Jordan C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Ramadi (near)
04/22/08 Yale, Jonathan T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Ramadi (near)
04/21/08 Campos, Adrian M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Dubai
04/21/08 Vandergrift, Matthew R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Basra
04/21/08 Christofferson, Steven J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baiji
04/21/08 Kohlhaas, Adam J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baiji
04/20/08 Morton, Cherie L. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Galali, Muharraq
04/18/08 Brosh, Benjamin K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack (VBIED) Balad
04/18/08 Eakes, Lance O. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (north of)
04/17/08 Brown, Jason L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, grenade Sama Village
04/14/08 Huerta-Cruz, Arturo DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tuz
04/14/08 Richard III, Joseph A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
04/14/08 Nelson, Richard J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
04/14/08 Opicka, Dean D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
But wait there’s more:
04/12/08 Allmon, William E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/11/08 German, Merlin DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Brooke Army Med Center, TX
04/09/08 Capra, Anthony L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/09/08 Hughes, Jeremiah C. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Baghdad
04/09/08 Ault, Jesse A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Tunis (died in Baghdad)
04/09/08 Tousha, Shaun P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/09/08 Fairbanks, Jacob J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – suicide Baghdad
04/08/08 Hartley, Jeffery L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kharguliah
04/08/08 Rosenberg, Mark E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/07/08 Smith, Timothy M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/07/08 Lilly, Michael T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
04/07/08 Kazarick, Jason C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
04/07/08 Vaughn, Richard A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad (eastern part)
04/06/08 McNeal, Jeremiah E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/06/08 Pickett, Emanuel DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
04/06/08 Penley, Shane D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Rustamiyah
04/06/08 Scott, Stephen K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Baghdad (Green Zone)
04/06/08 Wolfer, Stuart A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Baghdad (Green Zone)
04/06/08 Burgos-Cruz, Ulises DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province (Died in Balad)
04/06/08 Morris, Matthew T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province (Died in Balad)
04/03/08 Griffin, Travis L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (near)
03/31/08 Dhanoolal, Dayne D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
03/30/08 Gilmore, Terrell W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
03/29/08 Jordan, Jevon K. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Landstuhl Reg. Med. Ctr. (Abu Jassim)
03/30/08 Hall, William G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Al Anbar Province
03/29/08 Bennett, Durrell L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
03/29/08 Miller, Patrick J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
03/28/08 Jankowski, Charles A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
03/27/08 Molina, Joshua A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
03/26/08 Candelo, Steven I. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
03/26/08 Rundell, Gregory B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Taji
03/25/08 Gamboa, Joseph D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
03/23/08 Delgado, George DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
03/23/08 Hake, Christopher M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
03/23/08 Hernandez, Jose A. Rubio DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
03/23/08 Habsieger, Andrew J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (southern part)
03/22/08 Ray, II, Thomas C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwest of)
03/22/08 Williams, David B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwest of)
03/22/08 Stelmat, David S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northwest of)
03/21/08 Smith, Tyler J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Baghdad
03/21/08 Maupin, Keith M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Abu Ghuraib (north of)
03/19/08 Unruh, Gregory D. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle rollover Mandali
03/17/08 Elledge, Michael D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (north of)
03/17/08 Simpson, Christopher C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (north of)
03/15/08 Brown, Lerando J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Balad
03/15/08 O’Brien, William D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
03/12/08 Bradley, Juantrea T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Tallil
03/12/08 Jackson, Dustin C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Tallil
03/12/08 Samten, Tenzin L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – rocket attack Tallil
03/11/08 West, Laurent J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Kishkishkia
03/10/08 Anderson, Phillip R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad Ruz
03/10/08 Burkett, Donald A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad Ruz
03/10/08 Mallard, Torre R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Balad Ruz
03/10/08 Suzch, Shawn M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/10/08 Cimarrusti, Ernesto G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/10/08 Julian, David D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/10/08 McDavid, Robert T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/10/08 McIntosh, Scott A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – suicide bomber Baghdad
03/07/08 Paniagua-Morales, Jose A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – explosion Samarra (died in Balad)
03/04/08 Frost, Christopher S. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – helicopter crash Bayji
What about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZnSG6gg1vs&feature=channel
Oh, yeah . . .
And more yet:
02/25/08 Mowl, Kevin S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Bethesda Naval Hosp., MD
02/24/08 Perez, Orlando A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Baghdad
02/24/08 Phillips, Micheal E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
02/22/08 Morgan, Keisha M. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – illness Baghdad
02/21/08 Weaver, Drew W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Anbar Province
02/20/08 Raudenbush, Nathan R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Busayefi
02/20/08 Mackey, Bryant W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Mosul
02/20/08 Alvarez, Conrad DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
02/20/08 Bitton, Albert DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
02/20/08 Matlock, Jr., Micheal B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
02/17/08 Runyan, Luke S. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Diyala Province
02/17/08 Groepper, Chad D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Diyala Province
02/14/08 Washington, Javares J. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Kuwait City (Camp Buehring)
02/10/08 Spates, Corey E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Diyala Province
02/08/08 Sweet, Jack T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – explosion Jalawlah
02/08/08 Manibog, Michael T. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
02/08/08 Martin, Timothy P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
02/08/08 Whisenhunt, Jerald A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
02/08/08 Willett, Gary D. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
02/07/08 Souffront, Luis A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Iraq
02/06/08 Skelton, Bradley J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (western part)
02/05/08 Van Orman, Timothy R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah (died in Balad)
02/05/08 Osmolski, John C. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah (died in Balad)
02/05/08 Baez, Miguel A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah (died in Balad)
02/05/08 Alicearivera, Rafael DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – drowning Tallil
02/04/08 West, Christopher J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Muqdadiyah (Died in Balad)
02/04/08 Hardy, Nathan H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Not reported yet
02/04/08 Koch, Michael E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire Not reported yet
02/02/08 Barrett, Chad A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Mosul
01/31/08 Straughter, Matthew F. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – RPG attack Baghdad
01/31/08 Schultz, David E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – indirect fire Scania
01/31/08 Norman, Michael A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
01/28/08 Craig, James E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/28/08 Jeffries, Gary W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/28/08 Marshall, Evan A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/28/08 Meyer, Brandon A. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/28/08 Young, Joshua A. R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/27/08 Miller, Mikeal W. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda
01/27/08 Rogers, Alan G. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad (northeastern part)
01/26/08 Wilson, Robert J. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Baghdad
01/25/08 Crookston, Duncan Charles DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Brooke Army Med Center, TX
01/25/08 Birkman, Tracy Renee DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – injury Owaset
01/22/08 Sturdivant, Michael R. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile – vehicle accident Kirkuk
01/19/08 Whiting, Justin R. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Mosul
01/19/08 Gluff, James M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire Al Anbar Province
01/19/08 Burress, Richard B. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Arab Jabour
01/19/08 Schoolcraft III, Jon M. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED attack Taji
01/16/08 Kimme, Danny L. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, grenade Balad
01/16/08 Sharrett II, David H. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, grenade Balad
01/16/08 Sigsbee, John P. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – small arms fire, grenade Balad (died in Pallouata)
01/12/08 Lloyd, Keith E. DoD Confirmation Hostile – hostile fire – IED Tall Afar
01/11/08 Christensen Jr., Curtis A. DoD Confirmation Non-hostile Al Anbar Province
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Chas
Posted December 11, 2008 at 6:20 pm | Permalink
Donnyboy still doesnt get it….
Climate and WEATHER are not the same thing. Cosmos, make him write it on the black board 100 times:
“CLIMATE AND WEATHER ARE NOT THE SAME THING.”
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How many years of weather does it take to make a trend before it can be considered an indicator of climate?
If they give climate eras names, what is one year of that climate called and does that climate era portion have seasons?
If months don’t matter, why do the climate alarmist keep blurbing about ‘hottest month on record’ or ‘worst storms in thirty years in September?”
What is normal temperature and how would anyone really know?
And, more importantly, how many cavemen does it take to light a fire?
I have also heard that some of the Republican Senators (e.g. Richard Shelby) have foreign-owned manufacturing plants in their states, which also happen to be non-union (don’t look now folks, we’re becoming the third world!).
But any increase in oversight, if it passes, is a good thing.
Why is the auto industry plan called a Bailout, when it is clearly a LOAN program???
And WHY do we allow the ones opposed to keep denigrating the LOAN procedure by calling it a “bailout”…. AIG was a Bailout…Behr Stearns was a Bailout…. The automakers are asking for LOANS…. It was perfectly OK for Reagan and his boys to give Chrysler a LOAN in the ’80’s…. Why such a bad deal now???
And hey, Chrysler paid off their LOAN in less time than borrowed for….
…bailing out a sinking ship
…bailing out of a burning aircraft…
…bailing out in a card game when you have A,K,Q,J,3
“Here are the names of the American soldiers who died for CON lies..”
Too bad the dems didn’t stop it. They could have. Wonder why they didn’t?
In_the_Cosmos: So “NATURE” is releasing huge amounts of CO2, by burning coal and oil in our power plants, vehicles, etc? “NATURE” is clear-cutting forests, and causing other land-use changes? “NATURE” has released huge amounts of methane, by raising livestock, drilling for nat gas, etc? “NATURE” produced and released CFC’s?
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So, “MAN” makes one volcano erupt and release about 100 years worth of “greenhouse” gases. And then “MAN” kills more Buffalo than there are cows.
nit
ANTI Posted December 11, 2008 at 6:02 pm
“Jesus loves even you, Chas.”
I’m sure that’s true, but I can’t help but wonder sometimes if it’s not like for a bastard child.
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Senator Shelby, Republican from Alabama, is against bailing out the Michigan car plants. Some years ago, Alabama provided huge amounts of money to entice Japanese auto makers to open manufacturing facilities in Alabama.
Surely there could be no conflict of interest in Shelby’s wanting the taxpayers in Alabama to have to support these companies vs helping all the workers in car plants, tire plants, steel plants, parts plants, local dealers, and so on, spread out around the US in Michigan, Ohio, Kansas City, Pennsylvania, and other places. He surely couldn’t be putting the economy in Alabama over and above all the huge numbers of workers who will be out of a job if the Big 3 auto makers collapse. I’ve read that as many as 3 million workers would be affected. Yeah–that’s likely.
This is long, but worth a look –
A religious wacko proves “scientifically” the “reality” of Hell!
http://www.av1611.org/hell_proof.html
Boxlicker, we all know you cant be the “father” of your kids… You cant even get up enough steam to post FACTS…. let alone do anything else…. ROFLMAO!!!!
Now MH, its not nice to mock crazy people.
Bush is prepared for the Obama inaugural.
Looks good!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Vj5wSN4zzfg/STaE7tf-QiI/AAAAAAAAAyM/p1Imn-_NTcI/s1600-h/Bush_Prepares_for_Obama_Inaugural.jpg
I have a question. If women like flowery odors and men like musky odors…why do men wear musky colognes and women wear flowery ones?
If it’s supposed to be a draw for the opposite sex?
We tried fleets enema. We tried.
Ahhhh, what’s a matter Chas, no sense of humor.
What a sad individual you are buddy, how sad.
Boxlicker…. when it comes to the likes of YOU, there is nothing remotely funny!!! You are the king of SCUM!!!
Glad to accommodate you Chas, so glad to accommodate.
But Chas how does it feel to be in the same group as misfit above…..what a loser.
Even you the faux preacher look good compared to that nitwit. He really is a loser.
Olberman reported tonight that the “War on Christmas” source used by O’Reilly, in his annual rants, comes from a group of white supremacy, anti-immigrant, anti-semite hate groups….
Just wondering how many of our Jolly folks on this Blog belong to some group like that??
I guess they know who they are….
misfit,
I wouldn’t consider meeting you.
I simply won’t slide down into the sewer where you live.
Hey Bawks?
Does your wife ever read what you post here?
Did you tell her how you humiliated yourself first with your posts and then punked out on meeting me?
I’ll bet your wife lays awake at night wishing she had a real man. All that nastiness in you HAS to be covering up for SOME inadequacy or other.
By the way misfit, I well understand your obvious anger toward me, as you well know that the way took BlueJay to school, and taught him a lesson, would have been even easier and worked even better on such a dimwit as yourself.
Your Constant LIES are becoming intolerable, here, Boxlicker…. Too many posters(and the Editors) on this Blog know WHO I am, and what I do…. All you and your buddies do is make yourselves look like, well, the fools you are!!
The problem is, dummy, YOU dont have a Clue who I am…. But there are plenty who do…. including reporters, newspaper folks, and a few hundred others…. They all LAUGH at your idiotic posts when you attack me, and know NOTHING that you post about!!
You might want to think on that before you post any more Trash….
How does if feel to truly grow old bawksy?
Everything you care about is changing all around you. And YOU’RE powerless to stop it.
You little punks, can’t get to me on your own so you try and bring my wife into it. Won’t work, I know what I’ve got.
What complete failures you are, and everybody can readily see that as you continue to prove it.
I really took to to school BJ, you were a fool and you are even more of one now And it was sooooo easy. Your little sidekick reminds me of that little punk in the Christmas story that hung around the bully. What a worthless pile of crap. Ya know what BJ, even blogging in agreement with him makes you look even worse….and that’s incredibly hard to do.
Everybody laughs at you Chas, don’t kid yourself.
You are a joke of a preacher, you are a false prophet and a bad one at that.
You and yours are on your way out bawksy.
A dying breed. Yesterdays old, bad, news.
WHILE your composing, you’re decomposing. We can practically HEAR you age.
Well, nothing to see here — I’m outta here…. Y’all have fun keeping Boxlicker entertained… I have other things to do besides ruining my dinner looking at his posts…. Nite now!!
good night; good luck; god bless —
whatever you conceive god to be!!
Merry Christmas to all who do Christmas….
Happy Holidays to others!! Chanukkah starts this year Dec. 21 and goes till Dec. 29!!
blessings ALL!!
so mote it be!!
I think it may be a mistake to require the auto companies bond holders to take a 70% hit on their bonds. Would the car companies be able to raise capital in future bond sales after their bond holders were burned so bad?
I supposed they might since they would have less debt on the books, but once bitten twice shy.
And, if creditors are going to have to take write offs, will the creditors be able to continue in their own businesses? I believe the write offs are being demanded by some repubs. They have to be careful that by demanding and getting concessions, they aren’t making it impossible for the auto companies to make it by destroying their supplier base, and access to money markets, unless the U.S. intends to be the sole provider of capital.
Regular,
Have you convinced the world to use “becoming less alkaline” instead of “acidification”?
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/11/25/ocean-acidity-02.html
http://www.ocean-acidification.net/
“I really took to to school BJ,”
How many drinks ya got in bawks?
Heh, hey I want to “get schooled” again. How about we agree to meet and you don’t show up AGAIN?
You know, since the first time worked out for ya so well?
“Your Constant LIES are becoming intolerable, here, Boxlicker…”
Well good Chas….leave, ha!
I really am entertained by the way you and BJ and the misfit become completely unglued when I post anything, even things not related to you.
I can tell you are completely devoted to me. Unfortunately for you my feelings are not the same.
The Paulson giveaway has been a stain on how the bailout has been handled, in most cases it has been members of his old firm who’ve come out in leadership positions of the mergers. Even Paulson’s no.2 guy is from Goldman Sachs.
Also, Paulson managed to earn 700 mil. from his tenure at Goldmans, bet he was heavilly involved in thes CDS and CDO’s himself.
It’s another case of bush putting the fox in charge of the hen house, and in this case the hen house was holding 700 bil. of taxpayer debt.
biased1,
Which volcano did ‘MAN’ cause to erupt?
“Heh, hey I want to “get schooled” again. How about we agree to meet and you don’t show up AGAIN?”
Sure, lets do it again dummy. Just name the time and place, make sure it’s a cold windy day though, and in a very public place since you are afraid of me…remember your own words. Also, maybe you can contact the news to come take pictures of you standing there looking like the fool you are.
I love it.
“when I post anything, even things not related to you”
Now THAT wouldn’t be anything like your fixaton on farmgrrl would it bawks?
Paulie took a powder. I need a new tetherball.
Eenie meenie minie bawksy!
FOREVER the guy who punked out. FAMOUS for spreading a hoax.
BlowJay….face it you lost and lost big time.
Can’t quite swallow it though yet can you. Give it time and you will, whether you like the taste or not.
Better things to do for now….adios. Make friends with that other loser misfit, and maybe Chas to.
Gawd, what a miserable crowd. The only three people in the world I think that when they put their minds together the collective intelligence falls from just plain dumb to brain dead.
‘650 international scientists? Err, not exactly.‘
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/12/650_international_scientists_e.php
‘Inhofe recycles long-debunked denier talking points — will the media be fooled (again)?‘
http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/11/inhofe-morano-recycles-long-debunked-denier-talking-points-will-the-media-be-fooled-again/
“Can’t quite swallow it though yet can you. ”
I can’t get enough of it. THAT is who you are from now on.
The guy who punked out.
No BlowJay, I’m the one that took you to school and you know it. I’m one that showed some reason and had some fun at the same time.
Try it sometime instead of being such a childish jerk.
No adios again….time for some desert, I deserve it.
“I’m the one that took you to school and you know it. ”
Uh huh. That’s why ya came back to tell me again. Hey, maybe in time, you’ll even convince yourself. I’m not thinking anyone else is convinced.
Oh fucking Christ. What kind of silly game are you playing, Bawks?
Here’s a thought: do lunch. Seriously. I think Jay would agree to that idea. He can’t hurt with multiple witnesses, dude.
Unless you’re terrified even by that.
WASHINGTON – A $14 billion emergency bailout for U.S. automakers collapsed in the Senate Thursday night after the United Auto Workers refused to accede to Republican demands for swift wage cuts.
Republicans left a closed-door meeting where they balked at giving the automakers federal aid unless their powerful union agreed to slash wages next year to bring them into line with those of Japanese carmakers.
Looks like a bankruptcy judge might now do what needs to be done, and the unions refuse to do.
Their selfish obstinance will do nothing but hurt them as usual, and it will be taken out of their hands finally.
Rage,
What in the world are you thinking, why would I ever want to meet with someone like BlueJay. He is the ultimate example of someone I disrespect, and for good reason, the Marxist.
It is ludicrous to even think or suggest a lunch. I mean what a waste of time. I wouldn’t do so then, I won’t now, but I did what to throw his silly challenge back in his face to get him to think about how silly it was and shut up about it.
What would I ever have to gain meeting him…absolutely nothing. Don’t be as ignorant as he is please, this isn’t middle school.
Uhm, right.
“I’m the one that took you to school and you know it. ”
You can’t have it both ways.
What a coincidence, chass leaves at 9:01 and his alter ego mxyzptlk show up at 9:03.
Was anyone fooled by this? What a bunch of losers.
No, this is an adult world where people who lie are like children in middle school. A person’s word is worth a lot, and it’s something most adults protect.
What a coincidence, chass leaves at 9:01 and his alter ego mxyzptlk show up at 9:03.
Was anyone fooled by this? What a bunch of losers.
I’ve taken a fair amount of heat from “my side” for criticizing this kind of stupidity, but it doesn’t make it any less stupid.
okobserver,
Good observation!
Maybe even the faux preacher doesn’t want to use the type of language the ‘misfit’ was using, Chas calling himself a preacher and all.
Isn’t it a hoot how they simply go berserk over so little.
Well off with the stove and off to bed.
Night all.
You have taken heat, but you stood up for what is right. Taught a few lessons along the way too.
Thank you, Linda. Coming from you, particularly, I am honored.
lindainks55,
Saw your post after my last one came up and wanted to comment on it.
This is NOT an adult world, this is a world of anonymous characters, some as weird as those in the story Alice in Wonderland, but less fun and considerable more repulsive.
Sure Boxielox,
I would pay for you and J R to meet. Maybe we could even invite Regular (James McCluer) to join us.
I’m betting, big money, that you are too cowardly to show up.
Prove me wrong, dude…
Many of the posters are anonymous, some aren’t. But does it make a difference? Do you behave differently in anonymity?
“Republican demands for swift wage cuts.
Republicans left a closed-door meeting where they balked at giving the automakers federal aid unless their powerful union agreed to slash wages”
And the cons CONTINUE to commit suicide.
They broke the economy. NOW they will drag their feet and destroy (maybe) the American auto industry.
It’s like they WANT to be out of power forever!
cosmos_originally
Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:05 pm | Permalink
Regular,
Have you convinced the world to use “becoming less alkaline” instead of “acidification”?
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I haven’t tried to titrate any oceans lately.
An auto industry bankruptcy is going to be so drawn out and messey, that in the long run it’ll cost the govt. more, and we’ll have the repubs to blame.
The Europeans ans Asians know that it is much less expensive for them to subsidize an industry, and keep people off the safety net, than to support all the weight on the safety net itself.
Taxpayers will pay one way or the other, but with the other, they won’t have a industry of much consequence.
“A person’s word is worth a lot, ”
Not bawks’s.
“I would pay for you and J R to meet. Maybe we could even invite Regular (James McCluer) to join us.”
I’m in.
“Do you behave differently in anonymity?”
Yes, Linda, some people do.
“It is ludicrous to even think or suggest a lunch. I mean what a waste of time. I wouldn’t do so then, I won’t now, but I did what to throw his silly challenge back in his face to get him to think about how silly it was and shut up about it.”
Why would I shut up when I have you on the rant and run?
“What would I ever have to gain meeting him…absolutely nothing>”
Except maybe thinking outside the bawks.
lindaink,
After reading some of the nasty posts that have appeared here in the last couple of hours, no wonder we “posters” want to be anonymous; who want want some of these miscreants to show up on their doorstep in the middle of the night.
Time to try for another alternate universe?
Ya see bawksy? I have no REAL interest in meeting you.
I just like standing up to a bully. It’s who I am. It’s who I always have been.
I called you out because you harassed a friend of mine. I wanted to give you the chance to vent to me. I wanted you to look me in the eye and say face to face the ridiculous crap that you do here.
See? You yourself demonstrate why such as you will ultimately lose. I’ve no particular interest in you, other than you bagged on my friend. But for that? I’m ready willing and able to hound you until you break.
Who stands with you bawks? Okie and her various nics? “Regular”?
okobserver
Posted December 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm | Permalink
What a coincidence, chass leaves at 9:01 and his alter ego mxyzptlk show up at 9:03.
Was anyone fooled by this? What a bunch of losers.
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I dont kinow what the rest of ou all think, but I think this Okie wench is showing dangerous signs of passive aggressive paranoia…. I mean, judas priest, she has accused me of being at LEAST six different names, including at one time, even claiming WSClark and I were the same person!!!
I have been in BED since just past 9 p.m. —- and my entire household knows it… Now, then OKIE…. you gonna stop your friggin lying??? or not???
Bawks-alot runs away when the issues get real. Ever notice that? The man [sic] is a serious fraidy cat…
I mean, wench, on MY clock, 9:03 p.m. usually does come after 9:01 p.m.
SOME day, somebody on this Blog is gonna make you EAT your friggin lying words…. It might be me, or maybe somebody else…
But you WILL eat your lying CRAP!!!
Do me a favor…. Just leave me the hell alone, got it wench???
Regular posted December 11, 2008 at 10:33 pm
cosmos_originally posted December 11, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Regular,
Have you convinced the world to use “becoming less alkaline” instead of “acidification”?
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I haven’t tried to titrate any oceans lately.
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But Regular’s 7:38 am post (below) says that he can’t understand that the very widely used phrase “ocean acidification” only means “the ocean is becoming less alkaline”.
Regular, you should convince the world to use “becoming less alkaline” instead of “acidification”.
You can start by contacting all of the people at these 2 links.
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/11/25/ocean-acidity-02.html
http://www.ocean-acidification.net/
Good luck.
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Regular posted December 11, 2008 at 7:38 am, ‘Open 12/10?
Ah!
You see cosmos cannot name any acid oceans, because there aren’t any.
You see folks, climate alarmist love to use catch phrases like ocean acidification.
Those who know your basic science know that pH above 8.0 is not acidic, it is mild on the alkaline side like baking soda as I described earlier.
If oceans were acidic, fish and other ocean life would be dieing in masses. They aren’t.
Let the arm flailing continue by the alarmists.
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BTW: Regular used to be an Industrial Hygiene engineer.
I’ve been doing a bonedig.
I seem to remember Boxlock once commending me for standing up for my friends and my beliefs. I’ll keep looking.
Chas,
Okie is not a person [sic] to concern yourself with. She is so stupid, that she does not have any idea about how the 2000 census was run.
She says that I say things that make her retreat from this blog. I wish she would enlighten me about those things, because I would say them everyday, if it would keep her away…
I would gladly be the roach stray that keeps that wench away…
stray = spray…
Night all. See you tomorrow. Still betting that Boxielox is too afraid to meet up. What a Pus*y!
okobserver posted December 11, 2008 at 1:32 pm
BTW I agree with those GW deniers. We are experiencing climate changes and have entered a global cooling phase. Many very esteemed scientists have drawn this conclusion.
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okobserver,
Are you going post your “science” that we have entered a “global cooling phase”? And how long will it last?
Also, please list the names of the “many very esteemed scientists” who support your opinion.
But do not list the economists, meteorologists, scientists who do NOT do climate science, climate scientists who make unsupported “opinions” outside of their field of expertise, etc. . .
My my, the Libs are certainly in all out attack mode tonight.
Must be a pitiful existence to be so petty and shallow.
What is an “acid ocean”? Are you willing to presume that the oceans must corrode anything put in them before we express concern about the detrimental effects on the most basic organisms in the food chain that just happen to make our survival possible?
Yeah, how totally fucking silly. Good point.
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Rage
Posted December 12, 2008 at 12:29 am | Permalink
What is an “acid ocean”? Are you willing to presume that the oceans must corrode anything put in them before we express concern about the detrimental effects on the most basic organisms in the food chain that just happen to make our survival possible?
Yeah, how totally fucking silly. Good point.
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Actually, it’s a very basic question.
By its very nature, the ocean is salty. I dunno, but science says this has been occurring for perhaps billions of years?
Salt by itself is corrosive to some materials. Ever live near a coast line and check out your rocker panels on your car if you don’t take the time to rinse them with fresh water? Eaten away from salt corrosion.
And how about those sea creatures? Did you know they are already adapting to having that unusable shell? That’s right, certain species of coral are giving up the shell and doing just fine as soft body creatures.
I’m sorry I’m not all ‘Henny Penny’ like some of you alarmists, flailing arms and claiming the sky is falling.
‘Where are you going, Hennypenny?’ says Cocky-locky. ‘Oh! I’m going to tell the king the sky’s a-falling,’ says Henny-penny. ‘May I come with you?’ says Cocky-locky. ‘Certainly,’ says Henny-penny. So Hennypenny and Cocky-locky went to tell the king the sky was falling… …But Foxy-woxy had made two bites at Cocky-locky, and when the first snap only hurt Cocky-locky, but didn’t kill him, he called out to Henny-penny. But she turned tail and off she ran home, so she never told the king the sky was a-falling.
Reg — I dont think you can spin your way out of this one by claiming that salinization of water(oceans) and acidification of oceans is the same thing…. not at all….
But nice try, and do try again…. :-)
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Chas
Posted December 12, 2008 at 1:39 am | Permalink
Reg — I dont think you can spin your way out of this one by claiming that salinization of water(oceans) and acidification of oceans is the same thing…. not at all….
But nice try, and do try again…. :-)
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Not hardly Chas and I never said that.
Mollusks have already adapted to the increase of cations (H+) over the past 200 years and from the looks of it, the coral are starting to adapt as well.
The point I was making earlier and which everyone failed to pickup, is that the ocean is not acidic, it’s on the other side of the scale – basic (alkaloid -OH, anion,KH) – what ever you wish to call it, but it certainly isn’t in an acid state. It’s 8.05 or something like that.
As you do down on the pH scales 7 is completely neutral – neither acidic or basic.
There’s a ways to go before any oceans are acidic.
Anyways, I’m typing asleep here and lost my thoughts…
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“After reading some of the nasty posts that have appeared here in the last couple of hours, no wonder we “posters” want to be anonymous; who want want some of these miscreants to show up on their doorstep in the middle of the night.
Time to try for another alternate universe?”
—janeeyre
Exactly janeeyre, exactly!
They have proven themselves to be ‘freaky unstable’.
Don’t you get a laugh at BJ, and StevenEDavis, et al., being so childish as to think calling me a coward because I have so little respect for them that I would even consider taking one of their grade school level challenges to ‘meet up’, or even want to be anywhere around any of them ever. Ha!
They are incredibly ignorant and naive to think so. I mean what do hormone raged immature jerks do but that type thing.
And oh my look at the language they use in an attempt to get to me through my wife, who has never blogged and would have less then zero interest in contaminating herself by so much as even communicating with such trash. They show themselves to be the filthy swine of the world with what comes out of their mouths.
If I am guilty of one thing though it is getting a lot of sporting enjoyment out of knowing they are simply enraged when they talk like that, and how much time they spend at it coming back over and over to attempt some kind of asinine win, and when they can’t they spout ridiculous dares to ‘meet up’. What jerks, ha.
Oh, and look who is issuing the challenges or dares to meet up……, not me.
This whole thing is so easy to see through by simply looking at who is so enraged and frustrated, such losers, as to want to meet an anonymous blogger in person so they can prove something.
It is just comical, the simpletons.
Bawkslots sings…
It’s not easy being yellow.
BJ, what a really immature jerk you are. Better to sing, than be stuck in the dim brained world you occupy.
But carry on, I enjoy the spectacle.
I speak con. Let me translate.
“I’m not crying! My eyes are sweating!”
Henceforth, when anyone sees the nic “Boxlock”, their first thought will be that old sound effect…
Wah wah WAH
“Oh, and look who is issuing the challenges or dares to meet up……, not me.”
Anybody who “calls someone out” on this blog is the coward. They know it won’t happen. Otherwise they wouldn’t “call someone out”. That’s what cowards do.
BlewJay,
The Meijer on Lake Lansing Rd. 12:00 PM (Eastern) today.
Does that make me a coward Fleet?
Yes, but I know you are joking.
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bth
Posted December 11, 2008 at 6:31 pm | Permalink
We scientists are very familiar with these cycles.
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Ben,
Yesterday you mentioned several natural phenomena that may or may not effect the earth’s climate. There are probably many more than you mentioned and some that have not even been discovered yet. Why are you focused only on man’s minute contribution?
“Anybody who “calls someone out” on this blog is the coward. They know it won’t happen. ”
Oh not so.
I’ve met Hank, Nathan, outlander, GMC, Joe Williams (since then apparently confined) outlander etc.
But your sentiment guarantees my prediction that a con called meetup could be held in a restroom stall.
I hear Larry Craig is looking for speaking engagements.