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	<title>Comments on: Kline has weird definition of victory</title>
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		<title>By: The_Eagle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-483202</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The paper is way to anti abortion. The newspaper has been far anti-choice for too long.  Hopefully the paper will change to pro choice as a silent majority of citizens are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paper is way to anti abortion. The newspaper has been far anti-choice for too long.  Hopefully the paper will change to pro choice as a silent majority of citizens are.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-482754</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie,
Bullshit! Kline didn&#039;t even request the clinic records on that case until AFTER Estrada pleaded guilty. As usual, you good christians are trying to steal credit for what you didn&#039;t do. Exodus 20:16-17. Try to remember it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie,<br />
Bullshit! Kline didn&#8217;t even request the clinic records on that case until AFTER Estrada pleaded guilty. As usual, you good christians are trying to steal credit for what you didn&#8217;t do. Exodus 20:16-17. Try to remember it!</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-482637</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact: Kline&#039;s checking into abortion clinic records led to the arrest of Estrada whose incestuous relationship with two of his step daughters led to four pregnancies, including two abortions.  He was convicted in October of 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact: Kline&#8217;s checking into abortion clinic records led to the arrest of Estrada whose incestuous relationship with two of his step daughters led to four pregnancies, including two abortions.  He was convicted in October of 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: Political_mama</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-482172</link>
		<dc:creator>Political_mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has O&#039;Lielly spoken a retraction or any story on Phill&#039;s disaster in his doings?

Of course not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has O&#8217;Lielly spoken a retraction or any story on Phill&#8217;s disaster in his doings?</p>
<p>Of course not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-482170</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The decision does nothing to ease the fears of the patients whose records Kline intentionally mishandled, and most likely distributed copies of to rabid anti factions: see for instance  http://www.armyofgod.com/
The courts must make it crystal clear to Kline (and that may take some doing) that he will be held criminally and civilly liable to the fullest extent of the law if harm should come to any of those patients as a result of his betrayal of the public trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The decision does nothing to ease the fears of the patients whose records Kline intentionally mishandled, and most likely distributed copies of to rabid anti factions: see for instance  <a href="http://www.armyofgod.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.armyofgod.com/</a><br />
The courts must make it crystal clear to Kline (and that may take some doing) that he will be held criminally and civilly liable to the fullest extent of the law if harm should come to any of those patients as a result of his betrayal of the public trust.</p>
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		<title>By: situveux1</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-482146</link>
		<dc:creator>situveux1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, he gets to keep the records and use them in court.  The lawsuit was to keep him from doing that.

So, since he still gets to use the records, I&#039;m thinking that&#039;s why he thinks he won.

I mean, that is, as long as the case was about the records and not about Kline.  If the hearing was about bashing Kline, then he lost; if it was about the records, he won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, he gets to keep the records and use them in court.  The lawsuit was to keep him from doing that.</p>
<p>So, since he still gets to use the records, I&#8217;m thinking that&#8217;s why he thinks he won.</p>
<p>I mean, that is, as long as the case was about the records and not about Kline.  If the hearing was about bashing Kline, then he lost; if it was about the records, he won.</p>
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		<title>By: lindainks55</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-482126</link>
		<dc:creator>lindainks55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And each day he stole from the taxpayers who expected him to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of his office.

Now he can go wherever he goes (WHO cares!?) and get someone other than taxpayers to finance his personal agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And each day he stole from the taxpayers who expected him to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of his office.</p>
<p>Now he can go wherever he goes (WHO cares!?) and get someone other than taxpayers to finance his personal agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnatha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-482123</link>
		<dc:creator>Agnatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And he paid the price. 

Again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he paid the price. </p>
<p>Again.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnatha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-482122</link>
		<dc:creator>Agnatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rhonda, maybe you should read the comments of the dissenting justices.&quot;

Why? Because they are more profound than the majority of justices on the court? Or, because their opinion reflects your own biases? 

Fact: Phillip Kline used his position to pursue his pet cause of fighting abortion, a cause that first put him on the political map. Classic ends justifices the means, and the man didn&#039;t even stop after the voters threw him out of the State AG&#039;s office, he continued to his behavior in Johnson County.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rhonda, maybe you should read the comments of the dissenting justices.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why? Because they are more profound than the majority of justices on the court? Or, because their opinion reflects your own biases? </p>
<p>Fact: Phillip Kline used his position to pursue his pet cause of fighting abortion, a cause that first put him on the political map. Classic ends justifices the means, and the man didn&#8217;t even stop after the voters threw him out of the State AG&#8217;s office, he continued to his behavior in Johnson County.</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-482062</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making sure ...

&quot;Irigonegaray says he wants to prevent Kline from taking copies of patients&#039; medical records with him after leaving the DA&#039;s office.&quot;

http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/626748.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making sure &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Irigonegaray says he wants to prevent Kline from taking copies of patients&#8217; medical records with him after leaving the DA&#8217;s office.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/626748.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/626748.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: gster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481929</link>
		<dc:creator>gster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He could really be a big help defending the newly indicted Governor. The defendant would probably get the death penalty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He could really be a big help defending the newly indicted Governor. The defendant would probably get the death penalty!</p>
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		<title>By: spasmcreek</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481922</link>
		<dc:creator>spasmcreek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he would fit in well with Chicago politics...lets send him on a one-way ticket</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he would fit in well with Chicago politics&#8230;lets send him on a one-way ticket</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481842</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klein was never born.  He is a clone of Pharisee Phred Phelps and was the result of a botched biology experiment.

Where is his birth certificate?  Why has it never been produced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klein was never born.  He is a clone of Pharisee Phred Phelps and was the result of a botched biology experiment.</p>
<p>Where is his birth certificate?  Why has it never been produced?</p>
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		<title>By: DavosRancheros</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481812</link>
		<dc:creator>DavosRancheros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klien is a freak! Klien is a freak! Come on cheer with me! lol!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klien is a freak! Klien is a freak! Come on cheer with me! lol!</p>
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		<title>By: YellowdogLiberal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481788</link>
		<dc:creator>YellowdogLiberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred&#039;s getting old. Maybe Westboro is a perfect place for Philll. Let the insanity continue. 


Dennis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred&#8217;s getting old. Maybe Westboro is a perfect place for Philll. Let the insanity continue. </p>
<p>Dennis</p>
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		<title>By: schtry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481734</link>
		<dc:creator>schtry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure the spirit one church in Wichita would give him a pulpit to speak from or fred phelps would welcome him with open arms!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure the spirit one church in Wichita would give him a pulpit to speak from or fred phelps would welcome him with open arms!</p>
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		<title>By: avtolle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481730</link>
		<dc:creator>avtolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bth,

You are correct. The records garnered by the Johnson County DA&#039;s office remain the &quot;property&quot; of that office, not of any individual.

The concern expressed by Phantom (and the additional copies you reference) are, IMHO, one of the reasons the final paragraph criticized by CJ McFarland appears in the opinion (along with the Kansas Supreme Court looking over the shoulder of the JoCo DA&#039;s office to ensure compliance with the order).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bth,</p>
<p>You are correct. The records garnered by the Johnson County DA&#8217;s office remain the &#8220;property&#8221; of that office, not of any individual.</p>
<p>The concern expressed by Phantom (and the additional copies you reference) are, IMHO, one of the reasons the final paragraph criticized by CJ McFarland appears in the opinion (along with the Kansas Supreme Court looking over the shoulder of the JoCo DA&#8217;s office to ensure compliance with the order).</p>
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		<title>By: gster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481729</link>
		<dc:creator>gster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kline is as big an embarrassment and disgrace to Kansas as Bush is to the USA. A matched set?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kline is as big an embarrassment and disgrace to Kansas as Bush is to the USA. A matched set?</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481707</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet he&#039;s already scanned them into his P.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet he&#8217;s already scanned them into his P.C.</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481668</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you counselor.  A question:  after Kline leave the DA office he will no longer (legally) have anything - is that correct?

Of course, there is still that little question about ADDITIONAL copies; such as those O&#039;Reilly accessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you counselor.  A question:  after Kline leave the DA office he will no longer (legally) have anything &#8211; is that correct?</p>
<p>Of course, there is still that little question about ADDITIONAL copies; such as those O&#8217;Reilly accessed.</p>
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		<title>By: avtolle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481652</link>
		<dc:creator>avtolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, Mr. Kline does still have the original records, as his office was only ordered to provide copies to the Attorney General (which, as accurately noted by CJ McFarland, was appropriate relief under the mandamus action, and not as a sanction).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, Mr. Kline does still have the original records, as his office was only ordered to provide copies to the Attorney General (which, as accurately noted by CJ McFarland, was appropriate relief under the mandamus action, and not as a sanction).</p>
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		<title>By: avtolle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481650</link>
		<dc:creator>avtolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the comments of the two concurring opinions, and note that in both cases, the opinions took issue with the &quot;sanctions&quot;, not the overall decision. I guess that provides some comfort to those who support Mr. Kline, but I suggest precious little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the comments of the two concurring opinions, and note that in both cases, the opinions took issue with the &#8220;sanctions&#8221;, not the overall decision. I guess that provides some comfort to those who support Mr. Kline, but I suggest precious little.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481644</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhonda, maybe you should read the comments of the dissenting justices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhonda, maybe you should read the comments of the dissenting justices.</p>
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		<title>By: lindainks55</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481642</link>
		<dc:creator>lindainks55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe some wealthy congregation will give him a pulpit to continue his ministry.  Finally, tax payers won&#039;t need to support his mission.

Two words in the headline say it well:  Kline weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some wealthy congregation will give him a pulpit to continue his ministry.  Finally, tax payers won&#8217;t need to support his mission.</p>
<p>Two words in the headline say it well:  Kline weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/kline-has-weird-definition-of-victory/#comment-481638</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Stick a fork in him. He’s done. &lt;/i&gt;

Exactly what I was thinking.

You can make a good living defending drunks, Phill. I would recommend that: sober people might not want your services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Stick a fork in him. He’s done. </i></p>
<p>Exactly what I was thinking.</p>
<p>You can make a good living defending drunks, Phill. I would recommend that: sober people might not want your services.</p>
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