Hard to fake Obama’s birth announcement

The biggest impediment to the conspiracy theory that Barack Obama is foreign-born would seem to be his birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961. “Of course, it’s distantly possible that Obama’s grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat,” concluded the Web site FactCheck.org, which examined his Honolulu birth certificate and declared it authentic. Hawaiian officials also have checked the records and determined there is no doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii.

182 Comments

  1. bth
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    Great picture of PaulTheShrillShill there!

  2. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    “Hawaiian officials also have checked the records and determined there is no doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii.”

    Why not release the document to prove the asshats wrong? Why this silly dance?

  3. beber
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    bleatwood must have nursed until he was in his mid-30s. He sure don’t like to let go.

  4. Mary_Caruso
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    They DID release the document…it’s online.

  5. Pleefer
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    Just release the document then. Easy. Evrything it seems, is a “conspiracy theory“.

    Or “coincidence theories”.

    Scared?

  6. Pleefer
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    I want it front page news, not buried. I want Him to show us and have us shutthefuchup.

    And also, show us the plane hitting the Pentagon, not just 3 frames of nothing…then an explosion.

  7. Pleefer
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    I suppose, Obama’s people had nothing to do with his vacated seat either.

  8. Pleefer
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    He is a an Illinois politician…he’s instantly corrupt.

  9. Mary_Caruso
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

  10. Phantom
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    I demand proof that he wasn’t born in Jerusalum!
    Where can you order those spiffy hats? The RNC?

  11. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

  12. Heckler
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Correct me if I am wrong, but what Hawaii produced was a certificate of live birth. That is not necessarily the same thing as a birth certificate.

    If there is a birth certificate release it and be done with this.

  13. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    This IS a settled issue for reasonable people.

    But it IS helpful for unreasonable morons to better let us know them.

  14. Mary_Caruso
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    I’m a little irritated at the picture…a guy wearing a tin foil hat with the word “Ketch” on his shirt. Are they making fun of the mentally handicapped folks that work at Ketch? Seems pretty insensitive or ignorant.

  15. Mary_Caruso
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    I hope the guy who filed the lawsuit has huge legal bills from this whole stupid fiasco.

  16. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    I’m a little irritated at the picture…a guy wearing a tin foil hat with the word “Ketch” on his shirt. Are they making fun of the mentally handicapped folks that work at Ketch? Seems pretty insensitive or ignorant.
    —————–

    Do you people wake up and search for anything possible to get pissed off about?

  17. Phantom
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    Good catch, what is the significance of Ketch logo. Is that a picture of limpballs?

  18. GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    For those of such mind, I have for sale, here in our very state, a genuine, guaranteed, custom fit ball cap, carefully lined with not one, not two, but THREE layers of prime tinfoil. Yes, you can be the proud owner of your very own brainwave protection system, custom made just for you!!! The delux brainwave protection you demand is carefully tucked beneath the logo of your favorite sports franchise, and only you will know that you know what they don’t know that they don’t know that you know when you . . uh, I mean, we know that you don’t know . . . uh, well, you know what I mean.

    BUT WAIT . . . THERE’S MORE!!!!

    If you order now, we will throw in your very own set of X-Ray Specs, guaranteed to see through bald-faced lies and govmint Men in Black instantly. And if that’s not enough (and by golly, it should be) we will send you an OFFICIAL set of Black Helicopter Binoculars, so you will see ‘em coming first. Yes, see the enemy landing before your neighbors; be the first to sound the alarm.

    And what do we ask for this conspiracy extravaganza? 49.95? 59.95? 79.95? No! NO, I say! You can have this package for just three easy payments of twelve dollars and ninety-nine cents.

    Don’t wait; get yours today.

    Interested, Pleefer? I’ll make you a deal . . . . I’ll even throw in the secret truth of the 9/11 attacks (Psssst. It was aliens).

  19. DavosRancheros
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    I hope that Ketch logo has no hidden meaning. That would be wrong.

  20. Heckler
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    Tin foil hat classes at the Kos Kids convention.

    http://tinyurl.com/58842k

  21. DavosRancheros
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    ROFL…now that was good…*pointing upward* funny post GMC70!

  22. Mary_Caruso
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    I’ve worked with the mentally ill for a very long time..and I’m sensitive to the image that’s protrayed of them by the media that only serves to further isolate them from society. Yes, it pisses me off and it should piss you off, too.

  23. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Heckler writes, “Correct me if I am wrong, but what Hawaii produced was a certificate of live birth. That is not necessarily the same thing as a birth certificate.”

    You’re wrong, and I’m correcting you.

    The story that Hawaii (or anyplace else) verifies a “live birth” somewhere else with a document that looks just like but isn’t a birth certificate is bogus. This was started by the same people (Joe Corsi) who send each other the ObamaNation book and said that the Clintons’ had Vince Foster murdered.

    It’s a birth certificate. The State of Hawaii said it was a birth certificate. On the certificate itself, it says that it is a legal document proving birth, and the registrar’s stamp says that the information provided is accurate to the original.

    They do apparently have a “long form” birth certificate in their files but they only issue a short form copy when a birth certificate is requested.

    That is what is on the internet.

    BTW, where can we see McCain’s birth certificate?

  24. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Yes, it pisses me off and it should piss you off, too.
    —————

    Show me that the pic is intentionally derogatory towards the retarded, then I will be pissed. I have no clue where the picture came from so I will not jump to irrational conclusions.

  25. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    James McCluer never served in the military.

    It’s not true, but everytime he tells a blatant lie, we on our side get to post a blatant lie in response.

  26. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    “They do apparently have a “long form” birth certificate in their files…”

    So why the silly dance? Something’s up?
    Release and be done with it. Simple.

  27. Maggotpunk
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    If Obama was born in Kenya then it’d be a simple matter of looking at his, and his mom’s passport, and seeing the record of his travel. But I suppose the tin foil hat crowd will declare that since Ann Dunham has no record of being in Kenya they’ll declare it was erased to protect Obama.

  28. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Hmmmm,

    The title of the pic is “tinfoilhat”.

    I would call it “stupidwhiteman”.

    The guy is wearing work coveralls over at least a shirt and tie.

  29. Mary_Caruso
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    It’s not irrational to see when someone is making fun of the mentally handicapped and call them on it. I have had clients that work at KETCH and they don’t deserve this sort of sterotyping that the media loves to perpetrate.
    Whoever thought this little picture up is at the every least insensitive to those who try to function to the best of their ability with a mental or cognitive handicap. You should be ashamed of yourself, Rhonda.

  30. WAR
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    Hey! That guy stole my hat!

  31. Mary_Caruso
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Back to painting my kitchen..see ya’ll later.

  32. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    A quick search of “tinfoilhat1″ was unproductive.

  33. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Barrack Hussein was born in Kenya.

  34. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Maybe his damn name is Ketch, ever think of that Mary?

  35. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Good point, MaggotPunk.

    And not only that, wouldn’t the customs office in Kenya also have those records?

    According to serial-liar Joe Corsi, Ann Dunham was too far along to fly after she tried to leave Kenya, so she had to stay there to deliver.

    Strange . . . he doesn’t explain why she wasn’t too far along to have flown TO Kenya to begin with . . .

  36. WAR
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    “The delux brainwave protection you demand is carefully tucked beneath the logo of your favorite sports franchise, and only you will know that you know what they don’t know that they don’t know that you know when you . . .”

    That is unless, of course, the sportslogo on your cap is KU or the KC Chiefs. Then weveryone will know anyway.

  37. Maggotpunk
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    To those who think Obama was born in Kenya which city was he born in? Which hospital? Why isn’t there any record of Obama being born in Kenya?

    Oh wait, I’m expecting fanatics to present facts, I’ll never get them.

  38. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Kenya – This is where Barack Obama was born.

  39. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    “Oh wait, I’m expecting fanatics to present facts, I’ll never get them.”

    Hawaii has the facts. We don’t. Why this silly dance they are dancing?

  40. outlander
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    #
    BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    This IS a settled issue for reasonable people.

    But it IS helpful for unreasonable morons to better let us know them.

    ——————
    Chuckle… “Reasonable people”. You mean like the guy who wrote this this morning?

    “I’VE been saying that forever. I hope Obama is beginning to get it. RUN OVER the damned cons.
    Pave ‘em over.”

    Or this about the Ill Gov putting the Senate seat up for sale?

    “Personally? I do not CARE what Democratic leaders do so long as they are fighting and beating vile Republicans.”

    You are a number of things BlueJay, “reasonable” is not one of them.

  41. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    Senator Obama and his wife Michelle in a magazine cover.

    lovely pic…

    http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/07/14/1216089359_0511/539w.jpg

  42. GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    You are a number of things BlueJay, “reasonable” is not one of them.

    Truer words were never spoken.

  43. JMWalker
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    Even if we invented a time machine to travel back to Obama’s birth, the cons wouldn’t believe it. There’s just something about a black man running the country the cons simply can’t handle.

  44. GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    You are a number of things BlueJay, “reasonable” is not one of them.

    Truer words were never spoken.

    Given the last post, it appears I should add that Regular could be substituted for BlueJay in the above quote, and same would still be true.

  45. DavosRancheros
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    I think some of the con maybe just having fun now…lol.

  46. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    There’s just something about a black man running the country the cons simply can’t handle.
    ———–

    JMWalker,

    Remember, he’s half white devil.

  47. JMWalker
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    Picture of regular on a good day:
    http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/ugly-people-473.htm

  48. Maggotpunk
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Here’s Obama’s birth certificate:
    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/2008-06-12_obama_birth_certificate.jpg

    It clearly says he was born in Hawaii. Why the controversy?

  49. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    #
    GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    You are a number of things BlueJay, “reasonable” is not one of them.

    Truer words were never spoken.

    Given the last post, it appears I should add that Regular could be substituted for BlueJay in the above quote, and same would still be true.
    ============================
    I have a reputation to maintain as blog asshole and troll.

    Bluejay was just born a turd. Me? It took a bit a practice to refine it.

  50. JMWalker
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:19 am | Permalink
    There’s just something about a black man running the country the cons simply can’t handle.
    ———–

    JMWalker,

    Remember, he’s half white devil.
    ==================================================
    Remember that, anti, and be very afraid.

  51. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    “Why the controversy?”

    Good question. Probably should ask Hawaii why they are dancing.

  52. Maggotpunk
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    “Good question. Probably should ask Hawaii why they are dancing.”

    Ask it what?

  53. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Barack Obama was actually born in Kenya.

  54. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    “You are a number of things BlueJay, “reasonable” is not one of them.”

    Hey I didn’t pick MY nic to remind myself that I am not part of this world, but “the next” there outlander. Isn’t that what you told me in person?

  55. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    “Ask it what?”

    To release everything they have and be done with it.
    Easy.

  56. HLP
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    AMERICA’S ROGUE USURPER-IN-CHIEF

    By Lynn Stuter

    December 9, 2008

    Over the past several days a number of people have sent me e-mails listing out all the records that should exist on Barack Hussein Obama. It’s a laundry list, chief among those records are his vault copy birth certificate — that would show where he was born; his school records — showing whether he applied for aid as a foreign student; and his passports — which would show in what countries Obama has claimed citizenship. Of the records that have been obtained, the Certification of Live Birth produced by Obama has been proven a forgery; his selective service registrations has also been proven a forgery, and the school registration from Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia has been proven authentic but proves that Obama’s name was changed to Barry Soetoro when adopted by his mother’s second husband, and that he was a citizen of Indonesia when he was enrolled in the Fransiskus Assisi School.

    Do Barack Hussein Obama’s college records show that he applied for aid as a foreign student? Does his actual vault copy Hawaii birth certificate show that he was born in Kenya? Was the passport on which Obama traveled in 1981 when he visited Pakistan issued by Indonesia?

    These are questions Americans want answered and have every right to have answered. They are questions, however, that Obama refuses to answer.

    For a man who ran his campaign on a pledge of openness and transparency, Obama is overly reticent when it comes to records which he should, as a servant of the people, gladly provide for public viewing. So reticent is Obama, in fact, that he has spent over a half million dollars trying to get out of producing a document that would cost him $12.00 to have reproduced, and that would answer a question that every American should be asking: is Obama a natural born citizen as required by Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution in order to be eligible to the office of president. That Obama has hired not one but three law firms trying to keep from producing a $12.00 document makes his reasons for doing so highly suspect.

    If he passes the hurdle of where he was born, then he must clear the hurdles of Indonesian citizenship, his various and sundry aliases, and what country issued the passport in 1981 that he used when he visited Indonesia then Pakistan, a country in turmoil.

    So much for that overblown claim of being a “man of the people.” He’s about as much a man of the people as was William Jefferson Clinton whose close circle of “friends” seemed to end up with “Arkansas flu” on a regular enough basis that those who remained knew their continued existence depended on whether they kept their mouths shut about the Clintons’ illicit affairs, of every variety. And the people victimized by the Clintons’ penchant for extramarital affairs also learned to keep their mouths shut lest they end up like Vince Foster, the victim of one of those bizarre suicides that seemed to plague people who crossed the Clintons. Speaking of the Clintons, how ironic that Obama has chosen his arch-rival for the Democrat Party nomination, Senator Hillary Clinton, to be his Secretary of State in violation of Article I, Section 6, United States Constitution:

    No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time: and no person holding any office under the United States, shall be a member of either House during his continuance in office.

    While the Senate and House have carefully avoided the subject of Obama’s eligibility to the office of president (even Representative Ron Paul), Senator Byrd of West Virginia was quick to question the constitutionality of the Clinton nomination. CNN and Fox News even jumped on the band wagon. If the Senate and House have no authority to address the eligibility of the president under the United States Constitution, then the Senate and House do not have the authority to, in any way, question whether Clinton’s appointment as Secretary of State violates the Constitution. To do so is to selectively enforce the provisions of the Constitution. Under the rule of law, they address both or they address neither.

    And true to form, the mainstream media has, for the most part, remained silent about the growing controversy over Barack Hussein Obama’s zeal to keep his vault copy Hawaii birth certificate from being examined. Those news outlets that have addressed it have done so with short articles erroneously claiming that what Obama produced in June of this year was his “birth certificate.” Nothing could be further from the truth. One such article appeared on December 4, 2008, in the Honolulu Advertiser. This is one of the newspapers that printed the Obama birth announcement, devoid of the name of the hospital, back in 1961. The article, like so many fluff pieces put out by the mainstream media, took a little truth, a big lie, wrapped them up together, and spit them out as “the truth.” The article claims that,

    During the presidential campaign, the Obama camp posted a copy of his Honolulu birth certificate on its Web site. That copy indicates he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961.

    It is true that Obama posted a document on his website that indicates he was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961; but that “document” was not a birth certificate; it was a Certification of Live Birth which proves nothing about where he was actually born. Under Hawaiian law, Obama could have been born in Kenya and his birth still registered in Hawaii even though he was not a natural born citizen by birth, not an American citizen at all. The Certification of Live Birth does not provide that information.

    The Honolulu Advertiser is situated in Honolulu, Hawaii. Can we assume, then, that those employed by the Honolulu Advertiser in the great state of Hawaii don’t know the difference between a birth certificate and a Certification of Live Birth as issued by the State of Hawaii? Did the individual who wrote this fluff piece really not know that the two documents are not the same, or was he/she deliberately misstating the case? My e-mail to the Honolulu Advertiser asking the obvious questions remains unanswered; probably answer enough.

    Another such article was written by Tom Ramstack of the Washington Times. In that article Ramstack claims,

    Mr. Obama demonstrated his citizenship during his campaign by circulating copies of his birth certificate, which showed he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961.

    My e-mail to Mr Ramstack, pointing out the error in his piece, also remains unanswered; again, answer enough.

    That mainstream media cannot get something as simple as the difference between two distinctly dissimilar documents straight makes one wonder just how much they do report accurately; and how much they deliberately report as the truth that isn’t.

    And not to be ignored is the blog of David Horowitz of FrontPage Magazine in which he admonishes those asking if Obama is eligible to the office of president to “get over it.” Get over what, Mr Horowitz? The fact that our constitution is in jeopardy? Do you really think that constitutes “right-wing trash talk”? Get over it? Not on your life, Mr Horowitz. Shame on you for even daring to suggest such a thing. If you are the same David Horowitz who wrote Radical Son and Hating Whitey, either I missed something in reading those books or you should know better than most that our Constitution remains intact only so long as we, the people, remain eternally vigilant. That you seem to think 64,000,000 votes for Obama — approximately 29.6% of the total voting-age populace — trumps the U.S. Constitution is unbelievable! That you think “what the people say, goes” is preposterous. That isn’t rule by law, that’s rule by the majority with the rights of the minority at the whim of the majority; that’s rule by man according to his own passions, opinions and prejudices; that’s democracy; that’s mobocracy! In case you aren’t aware, we are not a democracy, for all the mainstream media’s calling us that, for all George Bush’s erroneous contentions that we are; we are a republic with a republican form of government as guaranteed by Article IV, Section 4 of the United States Constitution. That you think we will disenfranchise 64 million voters if Obama is found ineligible is no reason to not press the issue. It is far better that 64 million voters be disenfranchised than for 306,000,000 Americans to wake up tomorrow to no Constitution whatever! The simple fact is that you ignore the Constitution at your own peril.

    And not to be ignored are all the pro-Obama court jesters who carefully skirt the real issues concerning Obama’s eligibility to the office of president and launch into smear campaigns that are supposed to pass as journalistic endeavor against those who dare ask the hard questions, working diligently to paint them as some whacked out conspiracy theorists who “refuse to see the truth” and shouldn’t be believed. Their idea of “truth”, however, leaves much to be desired. And when their voices become shrill, as they have, you know you are way too close to the truth. These court jesters can’t bear the thought that their “messiah” might end up as the emperor with no clothes.

    It has been suggested, in more than one venue, that the choosing of Obama, a man who at least looks black, to run for president at this time, knowing full well that the question of his eligibility would arise, is no coincidence, is no mistake; that it was and is a very calculated and deliberate move to see how the American people would respond, just as Waco and Ruby Ridge were very calculated and deliberate moves to see if the American people would tolerate an attack on their rights under the color of quashing religious fanaticism.

    Time after time, the global one-world government agenda has had to be pushed back because of resistance from the American people. Being unable to complete the concept of transformational Marxism via gradualism or the “quiet revolution” according to the wanted timeline, violent means becomes the avenue of change. What better way to do that then to pit those who erroneously believe Obama will give to them what they haven’t earned against those who believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. And when armed conflict ensues, one side against the other, does it not serve the purpose of the puppet master who can then seize power in a coup, immediately dispensing with the Constitution and the rights inherent therein under the color of martial law?

    On Friday, the United States Supreme Court met in conference to consider Donofrio vs Wells. Their decision, obviously made on Friday, was not, however, made public until today. And obviously, the delay in announcing that decision was to give the government the time needed to respond to any violence that might erupt when the decision of the court was made public.

    On Friday, the United States Supreme Court sidestepped its responsibility to the American people. In so doing, the United States Supreme Court made it very clear that it is the agent of the puppet master that calls the shots in Washington, DC; the shadow government so many want to deny the existence of but that too many Americans are now aware of to give any credence to any attempt at denial.

    The United States Supreme Court has made it clear that it will bless the presidency of a man who, by all appearances and by his failure to produce the most basic of documents proving his right to run for the highest office in the United States, is not eligible to the office of president. If Obama truly loved this country as he claims, he would have produced the evidence of his eligibility to the office of president long ago. That he has not makes it very apparent that he is not eligible and is a usurper, plain and simple.

    In its failure to act on behalf the citizens of the United States, the United States Supreme Court has made it very clear that it is no longer an agent of justice as required by our constitution; that it is nothing more than the legal arm of the puppet master, forcing upon the American people the tyranny of the communist/fascist agenda. Obama is the bastard child of the same puppet master. Lawsuits challenging the eligibility of Obama to the office of president have been filed in at least 28 states. Those lawsuits will meet the same fate of indifference as has Donofrio vs Wells and Berg vs Obama. And they will meet the same fate because the United States Supreme Court, to a justice, has made it clear they are the whores of the puppet master

    Those who believe in the one document that has made our country the great nation that it is, will either acquiesce or fight. Today we either stand for the Constitution and Bill of Rights or America ceases to exist.

  57. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Remember that, anti, and be very afraid.
    ==============

    Be afraid of what?

  58. WAR
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    I did some searches and reading regarding the law suit that made the news yesterday. I was surprised by what I read. There have only been a couple of suits that have made headlines, but there have been more than 1600 suits filed already about the country – 850+ have been heard and dismissed and 750+ were denied hearing. The conspiracy theorists will not let go of this one. The courts anticipate that every law signed by Obama will be endlessly challenged in court based on the “big conspiracy.” There’s no winning with the conspiracy theorists. The more evidence you show them that proves Obama was born in Hawaii, to them that’s just more evidence how deep the conspiracy goes.

    But, Rhonda, that Ketch patch on the coveralls in the photo does require an explanation. Why is it there? Please tell us.

  59. Maggotpunk
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Fleety, you’re in favor of the state releasing people’s personal information. How about you show all your tax records, medical history, social security number and other items?

    Obama already released his birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii. There is no controversy.

  60. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    “Fleety, you’re in favor of the state releasing people’s personal information. How about you show all your tax records, medical history, social security number and other items?”

    I would if I was the President and wasn’t afraid of what they might show. One phone call by Obama and this would all go away. It is a curious dance.

  61. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    “There is no controversy.”

    Yeah, right.

  62. Maggotpunk
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    “I would if I was the President and wasn’t afraid of what they might show. One phone call by Obama and this would all go away. It is a curious dance.”

    Obama already released his birth certificate. Where’s the controversy?

  63. Rage
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Yawn. . .

  64. Heckler
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    CraponAmerica

    Regarding your 9:47 post.

    You spent a lot of words saying…..that I was in fact right.

    Produce a certified copy of the original and be done with it.

  65. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Wow 64 comments.

    Is it the funny photograph of the fat man with the tin foil hat, dark glasses and fingers in his ears?

    I wonder where they got that photo? Someone on Staff? I thought newpapers had to acknowledge the source of photographs/copyrighted images?

    Not so a blog?

  66. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    “I wonder where they got that photo?”

    According to angry mary, it’s from http://www.makefunofretards.com

  67. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kanyadhiang village, Rachuonyo District[1] on the shores of Lake Victoria just outside Kendu Bay, Kenya, at the time a colony of the British Empire.

  68. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Angry Mary is just angry. They should really acknowledge the photo’s they publish.

  69. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Heckler says, “Produce a certified copy of the original and be done with it.”

    And I just got done telling you that The State of Hawaii did.

    Feel free to ask the State of Hawaii for corraborating material.

    So far, a Federal Court and The US Supreme Court have determined that arguments against Obama’s birth have no merit.

  70. Predestined
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Produce a certified copy of the original and be done with it.

    Isn’t that what the seal is? The certification of the copy? “Certificate” of Live Birth. ‘certify’ being the root word. It seems you already have what you request. Sounds like a 2-year-old who got what he asked for and discovers it wasn’t what he wanted, but only wants what isn’t possible to have.

  71. DavosRancheros
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    You know it really amazes me how far this topic will go in the minds of some. I am now finished with it…lol…wont read anymore on this thread.

  72. Predestined
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    When applying for a passport, one must supply a certified birth certificate, not a vault copy. If it’s good enough for your government, it should be good enough for you.

  73. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    James McCluer never served in the US Air Force[1] as he has claimed. He actually has been a card carrying member of the Communist Party USA since he was old enough to vote.[2] He joined the San Francisco chapter in 1972 at the home of the known Communist organizer Samuel Webb.[3]

    I think those footnotes really add a sense of authority, don’t you.

  74. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kanyadhiang village, Rachuonyo District[1] on the shores of Lake Victoria just outside Kendu Bay, Kenya, at the time a colony of the British Empire.

    Uh, yeah, Reg. Just keep believing that if it makes you feel better. BTW, what’s your hat size? We’ll ship one of GMC’s creations to you.

    Dennis

  75. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    “one must supply a certified birth certificate”

    That must not always be the case. I just got mine and the little ladies passport and they did not
    require or even ask for our birth certificates.

  76. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    James McCluer never served in the US Air Force[1] as he has claimed. He actually has been a card carrying member of the Communist Party USA since he was old enough to vote.[2] He joined the San Francisco chapter in 1972 at the home of the known Communist organizer Samuel Webb.[3]
    —————

    Sounds more like Ryann J. Rimel to me…

  77. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    And of course we’re talking about the President-Elect, not his father with the same name

    because that would be a really lame-brained joke . . .

  78. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Correction to my previous post. We were getting new passports, we surrendered our old. So we did not need any of the other info below:

    Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship (One of the following):

    Previously issued, undamaged U.S. Passport
    Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state
    Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
    Naturalization Certificate
    Certificate of Citizenship

  79. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    ANTI–

    One can only hope that with millions laid off this holiday season, God will see fit to make YOU one of them . . .

  80. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    One can only hope that with millions laid off this holiday season, God will see fit to make YOU one of them . . .
    ————

    Capn’A, I don’t plan on laying myself off….just yet.

    You are kinda touchy today, what gives?

  81. StevenEDavis
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Like William Faulkner, James McCluer was born in Mississippi.

  82. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    The man who believes that the earth is only 10,000 years old also believes that Obama was not born in Hawaii.

    Consistent, I’ll give him that.

  83. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    ANTI writes, Capn’A, I don’t plan on laying myself . . . thanks for sharing, but I’m not your type.

  84. StevenEDavis
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Have to admit, this is the funniest thread I’ve read in a long time.

    And, Mary, I am sure the name on the guy’s shirt was a coincidence, and not something to be angry about.

  85. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    BTW, Hank, because of a marriage and adoptive father, Republican PRESIDENT Gerald Ford once went by the name of Leslie King.

    You got nuthin’.

  86. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Capn’A,

    Why are you so cranky? Did the wife put you in the dog house?

    Or maybe you just don’t like your friends to be called out even though you do it to others?

  87. Rage
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Some helpful and fashionable attire (sorry, don’t have this year’s catalog):

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/03/open_thread_4/#comment-28144

  88. StevenEDavis
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Thanks, Rage. I distinctly remember that post. You fooled me with it, but not Ed Friedman.

    Wonder whatever happened to old Ed???

  89. Rage
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Wonder whatever happened to old Ed???

    Dunno. He’s probably freaked at having Hillary as SOS. My prediction, not anything I’ve heard.

  90. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    “they did not
    require or even ask for our birth certificates.”

    Leaving the turban at home probably helped.

  91. Rage
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Indisputable proof of the shocking truth:

    http://blog.kenperlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/new-yorker-obama-cover.jpg

  92. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    The guy with the double chin looks like he is waiting for something to blow up.

    Or maybe a fart?

  93. Pleefer
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Again, I’ve left you alone and haven’t even seen you around in a while Orange GMC.

    You’re still a cocksucker.

  94. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    “The guy with the double chin looks like he is waiting for something to blow up.”

    That would be cosmo.

  95. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    “Leaving the turban at home probably helped”

    I’d never make it with a turban. I was the kid in winter who was forever loosing his scarf!

  96. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    “You’re still a cocksucker.”

    I don’t think insulting homos is helpful.

  97. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    It must be the cold that makes the Libs to irritable.

  98. Mr_Kia
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    This is ridiculous.
    The BC (Birth certificate) crowd are lunatic fringe.
    Do all Democrats want to get grouped in with the 9/11 “Truth” crowd?

  99. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    to=so

  100. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    O.K., this photo of a tin foil hat is better than the one above. No offense to cat lovers intended. I believe the owners intentions are in the right place – protection:

    http://cr4.globalspec.com/PostImages/200709/TinFoil_DB52B2F1-0E7F-A983-F0F9D799A20B06C8.jpg

  101. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Ha!

    That cat looks thrilled!

  102. mom
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Mr Kia – you’re right, there are lunatic fringe crowds on both sides. But did it help when Sarah Palin referred to Obama as – not one of us – in the campaign rallies?

  103. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    But did it help when Sarah Palin referred to Obama as – not one of us – in the campaign rallies?
    ===============

    Huh, I never would have guessed Obama was a conservative.

  104. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    “The guy with the double chin looks like he is waiting for something to blow up.”
    That would be cosmo.”

    No, I imagine Cosmos to look more like a scientist, or a nerd. Like this guy:

    http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

  105. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Thank you liberal squeeze toys for playing.

    Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya.

    Barack Hussein Obama Jr. was born in Hawaii.

  106. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    The idiot on the right in the picture has his CIA identification card showing – with his NAME ON IT!!

    PS: Pay no attention to the top secret map behind the people. That was the first invasion plan by Bush. Bush started with the big alphabet characters strung around the oval office:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/TinFoilHat002.jpg

  107. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    But did it help when Sarah Palin referred to Obama as – not one of us – in the campaign rallies?
    ===============

    Huh, I never would have guessed Obama was a conservative
    ================
    I hear tell he might be a Rotarian.

  108. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Oh boy! The Tin Hat Theme Song! I reminded of the government commercials to duck and cover.

    http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php

    “I’ve got my tin foil hat on,
    my mind cannot be soiled.
    I’ve got my tin foil hat on,
    your mind control has foiled!”

  109. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    The pic is PERFECT in its portrayal of the cons and their situation.

    This suit has put on work clothes in order to pretend he works for a living. His blinders are firmly in place and he’s all tuned in for when Rush is banished to the secret frequency! He won’t need his ears. That crowd is gonna channel Ronnie Raygun!

  110. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    O.K., you have to provide protection for your dog too:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/heather/63917206/

  111. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Bluejay, I guess one of the words that can be used to describe you is IMAGINATIVE!!!

  112. Pleefer
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Damn, now I’m talking like trash. I apologize for the vulgarity, GMC. It gets me a little mad, though, when I’ve tried hard to not entangle myself w/ you (although I haven’t seen you on here in a while…maybe I’m supposed to ignore you). You concern yourself with picking fights with me, and I can deal with that, like I tell my own kid’.

    Kia, what’s so wrong with truth? Besides being scary stuff. Me? I’d rather know. I’d rather have a country that doesn’t shrug off corruption and criminality and fight it, than have a country that reflects our own detestable behaviors and leave it be and let it grow.

    Can this experiment last without us participating in it? Because we’re just observing it.

  113. Mr_Kia
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    How ironic BJ discussing who does and does not work for a living. LOL

  114. the_truth_hurts
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    “Hard to fake Obama’s birth announcement”

    But harder to prove Obama’s accomplishments and mettle.

  115. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    I’m wondering do tin foil hats provide adequate protection?

  116. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Don’t settle for any imitation TFH.

    And just what is it with cat people putting hats on their cats?

    http://www.abandonedstuff.com/petfoilhat.html

  117. Predestined
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    I just got mine and the little ladies passport and they did not

    And just how many ladies were there, AmWay?

  118. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    And isn’t this a kick in the pants:

    “Tin Foil Hats Found to Amplify, Not Reduce, Government ‘Mind-Control’ Signals
    Tin foil hats on, everyone – or maybe not. Tests carried out by MIT students have found that tin foil hats actually amplify ‘government mind control’ signals sent at frequencies which match those allocated to the US government.

    Several hat designs were looked at and “a 30 db amplification at 2.6 Ghz and a 20 db amplification at 1.2 Ghz, regardless of the position of the antenna on the cranium” was found.

    The students suggest that the government itself may have spread the rumour that the hats protect individuals from incomming transmissions in order to enhance their mind control programme.”

  119. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, I was busy trying on hats.
    Should I have said “lady’s” vice ladies?

    Only one would ever put up with me.

    “Honey! Have you seen my hat?”

  120. Predestined
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Not sure where you got your passports, AmWay, but my daughter just got hers before she went on a cruise, and she needed a birth certificate (certified) and a valid photo ID.

    I take it you were getting passports for your numerous ladies of the night? Pimpin’ is paying well, I take it. ;)

  121. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    or “ladies’ ” or “ladys’” singular or plural possessive something or other.

  122. Predestined
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    BTW, it’s entirely possible that renewing a passport would not require a certified copy of the birth certificate.

  123. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    Heh.

    Goober in the pic is missing his bible. He’ll NEED that to protect him from catching the gay. Maybe strap it to his chest or something.

  124. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    I surrender!

    I corrected my post shortly after the first one.
    American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    We had old expired passports (old military issued ones).

  125. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Do you like my hat?
    Yes! I like that party hat!

    Good-bye!
    Good-bye!

    Unquote Go Dogs Go

    Gotta run, so many hats, so little time.

    http://www.ericisgreat.com/tinfoilhats/

  126. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Oops. Forgot the slightly tipsy drunk chick in her TFH:

    http://www.oleole.com/photos/arsenal/slightlytipsyandwearingatinfoilhatdontask/mpqcg.asp

    Contest?

    Sexiest?
    Biggest?
    Most original?

    The First annual Weblog TFH Contest.

  127. GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    “Tin Foil Hats Found to Amplify, Not Reduce, Government ‘Mind-Control’

    Ah!!!

    But that’s the beauty of the GMC70 tin hat special! First, the three layers of tinfoil trap mind-control layers that would otherwise be amplified by the typical single-layer foil hat. Second, because the three layers are carefully arranged under an innocuous ball cap (of your favorite sports franchise, of course) the gov’t cannot pick you out for mind control targeting.

    Well, there’s that, and the X-Ray specs so you can see the Men in Black coming.

    Buy now! For the next 30 minutes, I’ll send TWO! TWO! for only an small additional shipping and handling charge!

    —–

    Pleef – it’s not about “picking” on you. I’ll “pick” on anyone who writes moronic things; JR often fits that bill as well (as he has today). When you go over the tinfoil edge, well, you get what you pay for.

    I’m not a supporter of Obama, as anyone here knows. But this “controversy” of whether he was born in Hawaii or not is just idiotic. If you want to disagree with the Pres-elect, fine. But this is stupid, and deserves ridicule, just as the 9/11 “truthers” do.

  128. GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Amway, I feel a meet-up coming – perhaps a WeBlog tinfoil hat party? Let’s just set aside out political differences for an evening, and enjoy food, drink, and music – and, of course, our various tinfoil hats.

    Place? Time?

    First person to get upset over politics buys the next round . . . . .

  129. fleettwood
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    I thought the tinfoil hat was to protect us from SkyLab.

  130. Mr_Kia
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Sky Lab! LOL I remember that

  131. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Aw they’re not gonna invite you to their tinfoil hat making meetup GMC.

    But then, I’ve met you and all they will be missing is an indignant “harumph!” or two. Ya got anything else? Cause comedy aint working for you.

  132. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Hello, BlueJay.

  133. Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay…

    Blew Jay? How is Jay these days?

  134. Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    lol. Blew Jay, guess you can’t say junior isn’t working !!!

  135. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Posts crossed.

    GEEZ he’s serious!

    Oh ya gotta take pictures of that one. Make sure to get a few drinks in though. No one wants to look at a bunch of dour old cons.

  136. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay,

    When are you going to sell that little grey Toyota pick-up?

    What do ya want for it?

  137. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    GMC70 a tinfoil hat party would be great! A big prize to the hat voted the best (both blue and red).

    I believe the republicans might have the competitive edge on this one, through experience, but the democrats have a cadgy way of copying the republican experience and making it their own – so who knows?

    I like the buy the next round idea.

    Although I think your offer on TFH’s is more than generous and a great deal for anyone lacking the imagination or creativity to make their own.

  138. American_Way
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    “dour old cons”

    stereotype much?

    How goes your secret mission JR?

    Have you

    Saved the world yet?

  139. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    I’m out of foil, can I use cellophane?

  140. littlejohn
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Only a little time to post, but pick up a copy of Lost Rights by James Bovard. A little dated, but excellent read.

    outta here for now

  141. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    #
    ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    I’m out of foil, can I use cellophane?
    —————–
    recycled XMAS bows here.

  142. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Here is a bigger question than his birth place.

    Obama: Newports or Kool’s?

  143. GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    This party might be fun . . . if SOME folks here would relax and pull their cobs (or their heads) out of their ass. See ya forget, JR, most of us are grownup enough to disagree with someone without hating them, and still be able to enjoy their company.

    No politics, no fingerpointing, no accusations, no hate. Just enjoying company, food, drink – and the best tinhat – or two. I nominate JR right now to buy the first round, just so he’ll get in the spirit of the thing.

    Whadda ya think, folks? Sound like fun?

  144. Posted December 10, 2008 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    GMC–

    I’ll put that at the bottom of the 9,713 things I’d rather do . . .

  145. DavosRancheros
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Did someone say drinks???

  146. Posted December 10, 2008 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    The correct design is TWO layers separated by a non-conducting mesh. That blocks the mind-control waves. The antenna are useful to redirect them elsewhere.

    A good enhancement is a micro-transmitter that returns signals making it appear to the government that their waves are, in fact, getting to their target.

  147. ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    A good enhancement is a micro-transmitter that returns signals making it appear to the government that their waves are, in fact, getting to their target.
    ————–

    Oooh, I overlooked that….I gotta get back to work!!

  148. GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Your loss, Capn. Too bad. I see you as one of the better tin-hat makers, though you are probably not in the league of many here.

    You got something against good company and a few drinks?

  149. Phantom
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    So, if we concede that Obama was born in Kenya, we have to conclude the RNC is totally inept if they let a foreigner beat out their guy and gal.

  150. DavosRancheros
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    I think it was just a bit of fun. Reg was talking about his father was born in Kenya not Obama.

  151. Posted December 10, 2008 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    GMC – could you picture some bar … with a bunch of us showing up in our tin-foil hats … ?

  152. Regular
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Crapn doesn’t wanna show cause he’s a Sylvester the cat look-a-like.

  153. GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    could you picture some bar … with a bunch of us showing up in our tin-foil hats … ?

    ben – you bet. And they’d welcome us with open arms and a good time, assuming we buy a few appetizers and drinks.

    Besides, I look good in a hat, tin or otherwise . . .

    ;-)

    It’s long past time for manyh of us on this blog to remember that those who disagree with us our not the enemy. Some of us forget that what we have in common and agree on is far greater than what we disagree on. It’s only politics, after all. And we are (hopefully) less likely to be brutally vindictive with each other if there is a face and personality behind the screen name. It’s easy to depersonalize a nic; a person, less so.

  154. Predestined
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    We had old expired passports (old military issued ones).

    Sorry I missed the earlier explanation before I posted my first reply. My bad.

    But maybe now you see the reason for learning the spelling of nouns using possessive and plural. ;)

    SPELLING. It DOES make a difference.

  155. Predestined
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    And we are (hopefully) less likely to be brutally vindictive with each other if there is a face and personality behind the screen name.

    I wouldn’t bet on that. LOL

  156. lindainks55
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Most of us are busier now and politics has taken a seat waaaay in the back of the bus. I am looking forward to the ceremonial flush next January 20th! In my lifetime there hasn’t been a president (in fact an ENTIRE administration) I’ve been as excited abut getting rid of!

    I’ve enjoyed meeting each blogger I have met. An amazingly fine bunch of people!

  157. Posted December 10, 2008 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    GMC – a design contest could be fun. I have been working on some more modifications for certain specialized applications …

  158. Cynical
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    IF he really was born on US soil why is his birth certificate SEALED?

  159. writerdog
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Regular in a sense I like your sense of humor in the repeated “Barrack Obama was born in Kenya”. In deed B.O. senior was born in Kenya and I get it. My dad often had such a sense of humor. He once told my sister-in-law that her daughter counted but her son did not! It made her ferocious as she thought he was referring to the fact that she was married to the father of her daughter. But was not married to the father of her son. I knew what he meant. Her daughter was five years old and could count to twenty but her son was two and could not count at all. There fore he was correct in his statement that the daughter counted but the son did not!

  160. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Heh.

    GMC, party of ONE. Have fun!

  161. Pleefer
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    I actually prefer Orgone energy generators like the pyramids, “cloud busters” to tin-foil hats.

    Wilhelm Reich was THE man!

  162. Agnatha
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    “I’m a little irritated at the picture…a guy wearing a tin foil hat with the word ‘Ketch’ on his shirt. Are they making fun of the mentally handicapped folks that work at Ketch? Seems pretty insensitive or ignorant.”

    Mary, I have been in the developmental disabilities field for over 25 years, I am very familiar with KETCH and have been for all of those years. The logo on the gentleman’s coveralls is not a logo I have ever seen associated with KETCH, nor would it be, because even though KETCH is now simply a name, it was an acronym (Kansas Elks Training Center for the Handicapped-old timers like me still sometimes slip and call it “Elks Training Center” or simply “Elks”). The name remains in all caps.

    There are several companies that go by the name of Ketch, including an energy company.

  163. Agnatha
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    My previous post was in error, the KETCH acronym is still official. For the most part, however, it is not emphasized.

  164. WAR
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    Way to go Pleefer! You can borrow my personally autographed Orgone Accumulator anytime you need it.

  165. Political_mama
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    Now that is exactly what we should do for the next meetup. Tin Foil Hat society, every single one of us.

    PS, the Obama birth certificate story is THE most ridiculous thing you can come up with, and the more you keep on it, the more stupid you look. So please, carry on my wayward son.

  166. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    “Amway, I feel a meet-up coming”

    And you would be correct.

    Meetups happen all the time. Deal is though?

    GMC and “American way” are not on the invite list.

  167. StevenEDavis
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    GMC70
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 5:08 pm | Permalink
    could you picture some bar … with a bunch of us showing up in our tin-foil hats … ?

    ben – you bet. And they’d welcome us with open arms and a good time, assuming we buy a few appetizers and drinks.

    Besides, I look good in a hat, tin or otherwise . . .

    ;-)

    It’s long past time for manyh [sic] of us on this blog to remember that those who disagree with us our not the enemy. Some of us forget that what we have in common and agree on is far greater than what we disagree on. It’s only politics, after all. And we are (hopefully) less likely to be brutally vindictive with each other if there is a face and personality behind the screen name. It’s easy to depersonalize a nic; a person, less so.
    * * * * *
    Seldom do I agree with the good counselor from El Dorado. This may be one of those rare times.

    I’ve met James from El Dorado, and I was struck by what a good natured person he seemed to be. [Much different from his posts].

    Name the time, place, and obligation… I may show up.

  168. BlueJay
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    You do what you want Steven.

    I wasted my time meeting the con bastards. They are mousy and boring in person and then savage liars and thugs back here. I’ll not waste my time pretending I want to find common ground with them when they want to BURY me in that ground.

  169. StevenEDavis
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    It’s long past time for manyh [sic] of us on this blog to remember that those who disagree with us our not the enemy. Some of us forget that what we have in common and agree on is far greater than what we disagree on. It’s only politics, after all. And we are (hopefully) less likely to be brutally vindictive with each other if there is a face and personality behind the screen name. It’s easy to depersonalize a nic; a person, less so.

    * * * * *

    As I’ve said before, I agree with the James from El Dorado. I will be at his meet-up, if I can be.

    Night all…

  170. StevenEDavis
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Sorry, Jay. I consider you my friend, but I understand how you see our goals differently.

  171. BlueJay
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    Unlike cons, I do not tell people who it is that is socially or legally acceptable to associate with.

    It is MY choice not to associate with cons. Coming from where they are, I know that they are either unwilling or unworthy to be honest in diplomacy.

    I want nothing to do with them.

  172. GMC70
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    Unlike cons, I do not tell people who it is that is socially or legally acceptable to associate with.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!

    Actually, JR, that’s EXACTLY what your idiology wants to do most. Your real problem is much deeper.

    It’s called a serious lack of social skills, folks. There’s a reason JR insulates himself in his own hateful little world. It’s safer; he fears those who might challenge his tiny world view.

    It’s just that simple.

  173. GMC70
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    For those of you who don’t have your thumb stuck up your ass, is there a time/place to spend a few hours enjoying a good laugh, a good brew, and a good meal?

    The first person who levels a nasty political attack buys the next round. . . .

  174. American_Way
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    GMC70

    I would dearly enjoy doing so, but would take some advance planning for me.

    Do you happen to know Hank and have his email?

    I wonder if he would serve as a POC?

    There are a few of us who are on mailing lists and in contact.

    And I have zero problem buying ANY poster herein a drink!

    “sittin’ around drinkin’ with the rest of guys six rounds bought and I bought five …dang me!”

  175. BlueJay
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    “It’s called a serious lack of social skills, folks.”

    Hardly. What part of we already do meetups are you not getting?

    Oh yeah, invited.

  176. GMC70
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    I have zero problem buying ANY poster herein a drink!

    Amen. good company is always a plus, especially with folk I can discuss issues with. Without malice, and without hostility.

    Hank, you out there? Are you in?

  177. BlueJay
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Heh.

  178. Heckler
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    B.J.

    Get a life dude, you take this schitty little blog way too seriously.

  179. B_Lange
    Posted December 11, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    #
    ANTI
    Posted December 10, 2008 at 9:37 am | Permalink
    —————–

    Do you people wake up and search for anything possible to get pissed off about?
    —————–

    Yep, I think they do. It would be incredible to see how nice of a place this would be if people could ignore what they don’t like. I do it every day with the advertisements and other crap all over the web.

  180. Posted December 11, 2008 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    GMC, Hank … i think we could come up with a really great design for the perfect tinfoil hat. Who knows, maybe we would all end up millionaires.

    I have been working on accessories for those on the extreme left or right so they can selectively get mind-control waves from DailyKos or Limbaugh. And, of course, the lobotomy style that not only blocks all such waves but also negates any natural brain waves.

    This is a gold mine!

  181. GMC70
    Posted December 12, 2008 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Ben –

    Are you thinking startup business? I’ll bet there’s some “stimulus” money available for such a company . . . .

  182. lindainks55
    Posted December 12, 2008 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    “It would be incredible to see how nice of a place this would be if people could ignore what they don’t like.” — B_Lange

    ——

    Well said! Too few are able to control the desire for a rebuttal / response. And some don’t remember that a posted personal criticism is someone’s opinion, not who you are.

    Haven’t seen you post before, B_Lange. Welcome.