Republicans are fervently trying to smear President-elect Barack Obama with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s mess. But are their charges credible and productive? Washington Post blogger Chris Cillizza calls it a “guilt-by-association tactic that represents a significant gamble for a party still looking to pick itself up off the electoral mat.” Sen. John McCain said Sunday, “With all due respect to the Republican National Committee, we should try to be working constructively together.” But according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, just 51 percent of Americans think Obama has said enough on the Blagojevich matter.
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That poll says it all. Openness and transparency as he promised would stop the flood of bad news. Or it should do this unless there is more there than the public knows about.
Obama has called for his resignation.
That’s good enough for me.
“just 51 percent of Americans think Obama has said enough on the Blagojevich matter.”
The WEBLOG puts a Republican slant on the heading – but it’s not a republican thing. Americans just want to know the truth!!!!
And Obama did not provide that in the immediate aftermath of Blogo’s arrest. Instead, he spent a solid week with his lawyers…….
Oh you whiny ‘publicans! You lost! You deserved to lose. Now get over it!
Why not let the legal system investigate and report the facts rather than all these “what ifs”?
“Obama has called for his resignation.”
Yep and Richard Nixon fired Watergate accuser Archibald Cox.
That means Nixon was innocent!!! [not]
All that the silly Republicans can do is stand in the swamp and sling mud now.
Tho it sure does seem like Obama knows/is connected to some shady people. How many more “revelations” are we going to see?
“XXX
Posted December 16, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink
Tho it sure does seem like Obama knows/is connected to some shady people….”
If a person makes it to their late 40’s and has not met or became acquainted with some shady people, they probably have not lived much of a life.
“rather than all these “what ifs”?”
Hey why don’t you tell that to:
The Illinois Attorney General
The Illinois State Legis (100% voted to impeach)
United States Senate (democrats 100% voted for him to resign)
Jessie Jackson Jr
Obama himself (calls for Blogo to resign)
With the entire democrats leadership calling for Blago’s blood, I would THINK the American public has a right to weigh in.
“All that the silly Republicans can do is stand in the swamp and sling mud now.”
You left the water warm when you stepped out. Thanx! ;)
“gster” –
Because most of the time the CONs’ only resort is the “what if?”.
Look back, think about the right wing-nut talk radio stuff for the past couple of decades.
If only I had a nickel for every time one of the CONs said stuff such as, “If it had been Clinton….,” or “If it hadn’t been a liberal…,” then go on to build their little straw man arguments of what might have happened…”if.”
If a frog had longer back legs it wouldn’t bump its ass on the ground.
A huge percentage of CON posts to this forum fall into the frog-leg category.
Yeah, just because Obama worked for Blagojevich’s campaign for Governor, means he had no contact with him at all.
Perhaps Obama was 8 years old when this happened?
I am well past forty, and I’m not connected to shady people. I AM shady people!!!!!
heheheh. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
Don’t trust anyone over 30!
I heard the Obama press conference on NPR.
He stopped the reporter in mid-sentence when trying to ask about the Blogo story. Shut him down quick.
“ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 16, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink
I am well past forty, and I’m not connected to shady people. I AM shady people!!!!!”
That made me laugh ksfarmgrrl :)
Every liberal spokesperson I have heard have said from the beginning that Obama needs to go public with what he knows. Shut down the speculation. Take the time to do this and then go back to preparing to be prez.
No less than Lanny Davis from the Clinton legal days said to go public, do it early and let the chips fall where they made. Obama should have taken this advise if he had nothing to hide. A week spent with his lawyers leaves just too much room for speculations to run wild.
It’s a Chicago area political-cultural thing. Politics has been a retail commodity in Chicago forever. Obama is a product of Chicago politics. There is no doubt in my mind that, as a product of Chicago politics he has participated to some degree in money politics, patronage politics or back-room politics of some sort. That is just the way things get done in Chicago. There have been four Illinois governors prosecuted since 1962 (three Democrats and one Republican). People who live in Chicago just accept corruption politics. Some college friends from Chicago tell me that the ‘other’ fee for a driver’s license in Chicago was $10 (way back in the day). They said if there wasn’t a $10 bill sitting on the seat when the drivers license examiner got in the car for the road test, you didn’t pass the test. The other thing about Chicago politicians is that they cover their track very well. They’ve been doing this so long they have gotten very good at it. And, frankly, I don’t see the media digging too hard to find out what Obama might have been up to in the past. They’ve promoted him as the savior so long now they would look mighty foolish if he collapsed beneath a card house of corruption.
Nuthin to see here, time to move on.
Welcome back to WE Blog, “Regular” –
I trust you’re wearing your “comfortable walking shoes.”
Okie – You would never believe Obama even if your God was standing beside him and saying Obama is telling the truth.
Obama has not been holed up with his lawyers this past week – Obama has come out and said the guy needs to resign.
What Obama has done is to tell his lawyers to investigate everyone connected to his campaign and transition staff to find out exactly what everybody said or did.
Just because Bush promised investigations and then never followed through (as in the Valerie Plame CIA outing case), does not mean the Obama is doing the same thing.
Obama is a squeaky clean change bring’n machine. Stop trying to slime him with the fact that somehow how he was unwilling to “play ball” with Blago while not knowing that Blago was trying to “play ball” with him.
Since when can one turn down the offer to “play ball” without knowing that the other party wanted to “play ball”? Obama or his staffers should have ratted him out on the spot the second he realized that Blago was trying to “play ball”.
But with steep Chicago political lineage, his allegiance is to fellow power mongers. Someone on Obama’s staff will graciously take the fall here.
WAR – you mean political corruption like the Keating 5 scandal? Wasn’t John McCain involved in that dirty little cesspool?
“Obama has come out and said the guy needs to resign.”
Obama has not said that.
“A week spent with his lawyers leaves just too much room for speculations to run wild.”
Clue: Obama is a lawyer. I bet he spends every week with lawyers (his and otherwise), and has for a long, long time…
Move along, nothing to see here.
Tom Tomorrow:
And Sean Hannity is a lying scumbag
Not to put too fine a point on it. But if you only listened to Hannity’s show today, you would know that Obama is delaying the release of his report about his campaign’s contacts with Blagojevich for a week — and you would have heard Hannity’s commentary about a Christmas week document dump, which he finds verrrrry interesting, the sort of thing you do when you have something to hide, blah blah blah.
What you would not know is that Obama’s delay is at the request of the prosecutor himself.
Seriously, there’s no other way to put it. Sean Hannity is a lying scumbag.
Link
Are you kidding me…what is this fairy tale idea the wacko way right paranoids are coming up with now? LOL! He hasn’t even taken office and the smear starts.
That is so true Rage. The prosecutor has asked for the delay. Maybe he wishes to go over the real evidence before that. LOL
Mom do you hide from reality much? I said I want to see Obama show the transparency he promised when he ran. For his sake and the sake of our country. If his hands are dirty then reveal it right away. I expected that he had talked to Blago about his replacement. That would have been entirely expected.
As for the Plame affair. Who was Bush supposed to fire. Armitage didn’t work for him. Armitage himself said he was the guilty party. Why wasn’t he prosecuted? Didn’t fit the prosecutors game plan I guess. Accept the truth and stop manufacturing it to fit your conclusions.
Obama has not said that.
Outside your alternative universe, he has.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aL.1CcUKhgKA&refer=home
Monkeyhawk
Posted December 16, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
Welcome back to WE Blog, “Regular” –
I trust you’re wearing your “comfortable walking shoes.
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Uh huh, I was there in the 1970s climbing up the goat path, not taking a bus.
Where were you? Getting fired from your radio station?
StevenEDavis
Posted December 16, 2008 at 1:47 pm | Permalink
“A week spent with his lawyers leaves just too much room for speculations to run wild.”
Clue: Obama is a lawyer. I bet he spends every week with lawyers (his and otherwise), and has for a long, long time…
Move along, nothing to see here.
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Dumbest statement lately Steve. You are really in a slump. I am an accountant but we don’t run in bunches and I didn’t know lawyers did either.
People who write laws for a living tend to be lawyers.
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Rage
Posted December 16, 2008 at 2:08 pm | Permalink
People who write laws for a living tend to be lawyers.
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According to the American Bar Association, only 36 percent of U.S.Congress people are lawyers.
http://www.abanet.org/yld/chooselaw/trivia.shtml#q8
My guess it’s even a lower percentage at the state level.
“Obama has not said that.
Outside your alternative universe, he has.”
I didn’t see it. It’s not in the article you linked. He did not call for a resignation.
According to the American Bar Association, only 36 percent of U.S.Congress people are lawyers.
Only?
Care to name the profession with the highest plurarity?
Germie’s point was dumb anyway.
He did not call for a resignation.
The more this thing is talked about the worse it is for the real issues regarding Obama which are his policies.
Rage
Posted December 16, 2008 at 2:27 pm | Permalink
According to the American Bar Association, only 36 percent of U.S.Congress people are lawyers.
Only?
Care to name the profession with the highest plurarity?
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You made the claim that lawmakers tend to be lawyers.
‘tend to be’ does not match up with the 64 percent who are not lawyers.
Democrats outside the transition said they worry that the delay will continue to distract from Obama’s message as he makes a final round of appointments before leaving this weekend for more than a week of Christmas vacation in Hawaii.
Can someone please explain what Obama’s message is?
“Can someone please explain what Obama’s message is?”
Sure. It’s “I am not a crook. I did not have sex with that woman. Read my lips, no new taxes.”
fleettwood
Posted December 16, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink
He did not call for a resignation.
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“I do not think that the governor at this point can effectively serve the people of Illinois. The legislature is going down to Springfield to make a determination as to how to resolve this issue. I think they’re going to the same conclusion. I hope that the governor himself comes to the conclusion that he can no longer effectively serve and that he does resign.”
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/12/more_obama_blag.html
‘You, people.’ Indeed…
“Germie’s point was dumb anyway.”
I defy anyone to cut and paste any “smart” point Germie has ever made. All she has is insults and personal attacks. Her idiocy makes her posts that much more offensive.
“I hope that the governor himself comes to the conclusion that he can no longer effectively serve and that he does resign.””
Thank you davis.
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
All those associations start adding up.
I see that Davis the ‘moral judge of us all and high persecutor’ has made another judgmental stop.
Pretty sure Davis majored in sanctimonious behavior and imavictim classes.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 16, 2008 at 12:54 pm | \l “comment-485985″
I am well past forty, and I’m not connected to shady people. I AM shady people!!!!!
heheheh. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
Well damn this proves Brian’s point! I am 51 and know farm girl! I pointed out the same thing you do not know everything about the people you know. Plus if you are in the public forum you are bounded to meet the shady characters.
i find it a revelation that from the blackest depths of Illinois politics obama arises as lilly white as the driven snow…America still believes in miracles…and the tooth fairy…and santa claus
Steven still in that slump? Still waiting for something with substance. Attacking me is nothing new for you and the left. Same ole, same ole.
Oh who cares about cons and their crackpot ideas.
I hope Obama is starting to realize that trash can’t be worked with.
“donndublin
Posted December 16, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
All those associations start adding up.”
1 spurious correlation + 1 spurious correlation = 2 spurious correlations.
It does not equal 2 valid correlations, 1 valid correlation, or even ½ a valid correlation.
Does your math in ‘adding up’ all those associations work differently?
“The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it’s the seriousness of the charge that matters”
“fleettwood
Posted December 16, 2008 at 3:36 pm | Permalink
“The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it’s the seriousness of the charge that matters”"
Does anyone have any thing that tells who said this first? An internet search has it all over the right-wing sites, often attributed to Biden, but I cannot find any actual news sites (or government transcript copy) that has a person quoted as saying this.
I’ve always thought it was a Lib congressman, but I don’t know.
Amway,
“Don’t trust anyone over 30!”
I know, I know. I haven’t been able to trust myself for 34 years. I don’t trust you either.
Obama is going to be fun, he comes with his own scandals.
“When Buying and Selling are Controlled by Legislation, the First Things to be Bought and Sold are Legislators.”
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Regular
Posted December 16, 2008 at 4:16 pm | Permalink
Obama is going to be fun, he comes with his own scandals.
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Really? What scandals? The ones made up in neo-cons little minds? You mean, like, fake birth certificate, Muslim religion . . . those kind of scandals? Or the fact he’s from Chicago, so he has to be dirty? Those kind of mini-mind, neo-con created scandals?
We’ve had eight years of Bush, and we know what real scandals he’s left behind, for instance, Iraq, OBL, the economy, torture, etc, etc, etc. But he can have Obama pardon him for all his constitutional transgressions, which would be a good idea, just to have him relegated to the trash dump of history, so we can gain back our world standing as a leader, not a destroyer, and combat terrorism as it should be.
Or the fact that Rezco, Obama and Blagojevich have closer ties than you think.
Blagojevich’s wife sold the questionable empty lot next to Obama’s house from Rezco in a special deal, wink wink.
brian_nuevo
Posted December 16, 2008 at 3:31 pm | Permalink
“donndublin
Posted December 16, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
All those associations start adding up.”
1 spurious correlation + 1 spurious correlation = 2 spurious correlations.
It does not equal 2 valid correlations, 1 valid correlation, or even ½ a valid correlation.
Does your math in ‘adding up’ all those associations work differently
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“By their fruits you will know them.”
It’s not about math dunce.
Now aren’t you ‘publicans sorry about your overexpansion of presidential powers? What goes around…!
translation for the pagans: “You will know them by the company they keep.”
“donndublin
Posted December 16, 2008 at 4:35 pm | Permalink
“By their fruits you will know them.”
It’s not about math dunce.”
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself, my friend.
“donndublin
Posted December 16, 2008 at 4:37 pm | Permalink
translation for the pagans: “You will know them by the company they keep.””
Does that mean you are a liberal for hanging around on the Eagle’s website, chatting with the likes of us?
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Regular
Posted December 16, 2008 at 4:30 pm | Permalink
Or the fact that Rezco, Obama and Blagojevich have closer ties than you think.
Blagojevich’s wife sold the questionable empty lot next to Obama’s house from Rezco in a special deal, wink wink.
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. . . and you know this how? Feel free to provide competent proof of this neo-con nonsense.
Let’s see: Blagos wife sold a questionable lot from Rezco . . . wow, that makes a lot of sense. And, questionable in whose mind, yours? Rush? Coulter? O’Reilly? Hannity?
But, hey, if they’re convinced, who am I to doubt? (sarcasm off)
“Does that mean you are a liberal for hanging around on the Eagle’s website, chatting with the likes of us?”
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The last I looked, Kansas was a red state.
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JMWalker
Posted December 16, 2008 at 5:13 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted December 16, 2008 at 4:30 pm | Permalink
Or the fact that Rezco, Obama and Blagojevich have closer ties than you think.
Blagojevich’s wife sold the questionable empty lot next to Obama’s house from Rezco in a special deal, wink wink.
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. . . and you know this how? Feel free to provide competent proof of this neo-con nonsense.
Let’s see: Blagos wife sold a questionable lot from Rezco . . . wow, that makes a lot of sense. And, questionable in whose mind, yours? Rush? Coulter? O’Reilly? Hannity?
But, hey, if they’re convinced, who am I to doubt? (sarcasm off)
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The Chicago Tribune newspaper.
Here you go Walker better start walkin.
http://www.therealestatebloggers.com/2008/12/15/blagojevichs-wife-now-target-of-real-estate-probe/
I learned this from Cos.
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWJjMDkzNDU5ZmEzZDkwZmJiNjhlZDllZGM3NmQ0MjA=
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Regular
Posted December 16, 2008 at 5:16 pm | Permalink
The Chicago Tribune newspaper.
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Really? Article please? Oh, and provide a competent article on those “close ties” to Obama.
Actually, I’d like to see it purple.
Ya know, I went to middle school with this guy, and we got along fine!
Y’all better be real nice to me, mwahahaha!
ddb, just how does blago’s wife’s business have anything to do with Obama? For that matter, how has Obama’s being a resident of Chicago, and a political figure there, have anything to do with Blago’s alleged corruption (He is innocent until proven guilty in this country)?
Your NR piece really says nothing, and suggests nothing but innuendo and nonsense, as the whole neo-con treatment of Obama has been. Which is, surprise, the subject of this thread.
You’re a big boy Walker, surely you can figure it out. Obama has already publicly stated the land deal was a mistake (wink, wink.)
You know paying 40,000 dollars for land worth 10,000 to the wife of Governor Blagojevich was just an innocent mistake.
You know grease the pole, slime it up a bit so campaign fund expenses get buried in nefarious deals (wink, wink.)
Nothing here to see, just Chicago politics as usual (wink, wink.)
Rage,
I will try to be very nice since I now know the unsavory “type” you associate with.
I’m going to warn you about another poster here on the blog we all associate with daily — born in Germany and grew up in Chicago. Yep! Probably was in the same places, walked the same streets, met with, rubbed shoulders with _____________. Imagine the possibilities! ;-)
Nothing here to see, just Chicago politics as usual (wink, wink.)
Even if true, what does it have to do with the current scandal? (hint: nothing)
If you really think there’s any “there” there, request a thread from the Editors.
Rage
Posted December 16, 2008 at 5:35 pm | Permalink
Nothing here to see, just Chicago politics as usual (wink, wink.)
Even if true, what does it have to do with the current scandal? (hint: nothing)
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If true and accurate, it ties Obama directly to Blagojevich.
So far Obama has been slippery than greased owl poo, but some day his house of cards will come tumbling down.
Sigh.
“Where’s there’s smoke, there’s a smoke machine.”
John F. Kennedy
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Regular
Posted December 16, 2008 at 5:37 pm | Permalink
So far Obama has been slippery than greased owl poo, but some day his house of cards will come tumbling down.
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You only HOPE it happens. So, reg, in your vernacular, why do you hate black people?
Why do say that? Blago’s not “black people” nor his wife and neither is Rezko, Rham Emanuel, Axelrod,…….
Why are you pulling the race card?
Obama already publicly admitted he payed $30,000 too much for the land and it was a mistake (wink, wink.)
I think there is more than coincidence that the Realtor involved was Mrs. Blagojevich, wife of the Governor.
Just when do you pay an extra 30,000 grand for land when you know the appraised value to be one fourth that much?
Yeah, uh huh…
hmmm, even worse than I thought
Obamas bought a 10-foot-by-150-foot piece of the lot for $104,500. An appraisal put the value of the strip at $40,500,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/16/AR2006121600729_pf.html
So, we are talking sizable amounts of ‘laundered cash through Rezco (who supported Blagojevich for governor with financial and influence support) and Mrs. Blagojevich who was the Realtor in the deal.
Of course REzco made 26 trips to Syria to visit Iraqi billionair Auchi (spelling?) to get some funds. Part of that money went to Obama’s campaign fund which was supposed to be donated to some charity (wink, wink)
Yeah Obama, gangsters, terrorists, shady land deals, former Saddam Hussein billionaire friends…
But he’s innocent folks! (wink, wink)
Lynch Mob,Yo!
Why are you pulling the race card?
Walker is simply throwing one of Reg’s common lines back at him.
Of course REzco made 26 trips to Syria to visit. . . . blahblahblah.
Funny how Rezko is in prison while Obama wasn’t even implicated.
“Funny how Rezko is in prison while Obama wasn’t even implicated.”
Which prison?
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Rage
Posted December 16, 2008 at 6:47 pm | Permalink
Why are you pulling the race card?
Walker is simply throwing one of Reg’s common lines back at him.
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It is taking the argument off on a irrelevant tangent that no one will win no matter who does it.
Which prison?
Okay, going to prison.
Satisfied?
“Okay, going to prison.”
Maybe he’ll go to prison. Maybe he’ll sing.
“Maybe he’ll go to prison. Maybe he’ll sing.”
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That depends on how HIGH he sings.
Ya know?
After the corruption, lies, and abuses of power we have seen the last eight years?
This penny ante crap you cons are peddling looks damned small.
I guess we should consider the source.
Fleetwood,
“you’re an EFFING moron!”
penny ante
Junior thinks paying 60,000 dollars over a land’s actual worth is penny ante.
“Fleetwood,
“you’re an EFFING moron!””
’sup with that? You doing an imitation of cosmo?
“paying 60,000 dollars over a land’s actual worth is penny ante.”
Yeah.
Right now, Constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley is detailing how dick cheney has basically CONFESSED to committing a war crime.
Let’s have a thread about THAT.
I hope they hand him over to the world court.
Maybe he’ll go to prison. Maybe he’ll sing.
Oh, I see. So something that was never even implicated in his trial will come out, showing that Obama was the evil mastermind behind everything.
Like. . .what?
You have something other than innuendo to back that up?
Or are you just looking at Chicago politics, and praying that something, anything, will take him down?
I think I already know the answer.
Oh yeah Junior, the favorite duh Lib method, divert to something else to lessen the guilt on the thread topic.
Let’s bring up Hitler, Nixon, the invasion of Troy as well.
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Rage
Posted December 16, 2008 at 7:19 pm | Permalink
Maybe he’ll go to prison. Maybe he’ll sing.
Oh, I see. So something that was never even implicated in his trial will come out, showing that Obama was the evil mastermind behind everything.
Like. . .what?
You have something other than innuendo to back that up?
Or are you just looking at Chicago politics, and praying that something, anything, will take him down?
I think I already know the answer.
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What gullibility!
Haha! This operation is so smooth that it would make La Cosa Nostra proud.
This Obama, Rezco and Blagojevich connection may not ever be proven, but when it smells like a rat…
ya know…
What gullibility!
Hahaha!
Pudding, Reg, pudding.
Fitzgerald requested that Obama not say very much; he is respecting that and is cooperating with the prosecution.
The Republics have made it clear that they are not at all interested in any sort of bipartisanship for the best for the country. Obama should ablige them – put good loyal Democrats in charge and tell the right-wingers to take a hike.
but when it smells like a rat…
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Obama is the poop chute?
“You have something other than innuendo to back that up?”
This Obama, Rezco and Blagojevich connection may not ever be proven, but when it smells like a rat…
I take that as a no.
“when it smells like a rat…”
There’s a con in the room?
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BlueJay
Posted December 16, 2008 at 7:28 pm | Permalink
“when it smells like a rat…”
There’s a con in the room?
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No, that’s not it.
Obama is the poop chute, try that one on for size BlueJay.
It is a much better fit.
“…showing that Obama was the evil mastermind behind everything.”
Obama was the evil mastermind of nothing.
He is quite ambitious. And clean. And articulate.
Sing, Rezko, sing.
BlueJay,
The smell will be reminiscent of your thumb.
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Rage
Posted December 16, 2008 at 7:27 pm | Permalink
“You have something other than innuendo to back that up?”
This Obama, Rezco and Blagojevich connection may not ever be proven, but when it smells like a rat…
I take that as a no.
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The facts are laid out clearly.
So far, one is going to prison, one will be probably going to prison or at least be a disgraced political figure and the third…the future will tell.
It’s just a matter of time and patience.
…burn baby burn…
“Obama is the poop chute?”
No. That will be Rezko when he gets in to the PMITAP.
Given the placement of your nose “auntie”
I’m sure that is a smell you are familiar with.
I’m sure that is a smell you are familiar with.
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Yes on occasion, I have came across your kind.
BREAKING NEWS THE BEAGLE BLOG WILL IGNORE ….
VP DICK CHENEY APPLAUDS OBAMA’S NATIONAL SECURITY AND WEHRMACHT CHOICES.
Now that is change we can all believe in!!!
Ron Paul for President. (Too bad he was pro-life)
DICK CHENEY APPLAUDS OBAMA’S NATIONAL SECURITY AND WEHRMACHT CHOICES.
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Grinning from ear to ear…..excellent…
Clintons in the inner circle, Cheney celebrating, Bush seems happy enough.
Obama, keep “the change.”
It is empire politics as usual.
I do so love how people who disagree with Obama blast him for things they themselves would do because it is the smart thing to do. Why should Obama come right out and say something before he knows the facts of the matter? If he has nothing to do with it and called for his resignation, isn’t that enough? Bloj. is a snake, saying Obama is linked to him is like saying George Bush is gay because republican Mark Foley tried to have sex with pages. Doesn’t add up. Republicans lost because they abandoned the middle and waged a filthy political war. Even John McCain thinks we should be focusing on other things. Alas, there are people who hate Obama so much they will lie to themselves in order to convince themselves he is a bad guy, regardless the facts. Don’t be that guy.
Regular I admire the strength of your feelings but must say you’re off track. Part of the Republican’s problem is they hated the Democrats and saw them as less than American, don’t keep making the same mistake. I left the Republican party because they no longer were the party of fiscal responsibility, small government and strict interpretation of the Constitution. You may want to hold your party accountable for the mistakes its made, it will do you more good than mud slinging and may help you in 2012.
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Regular
Posted December 16, 2008 at 7:22 pm | Permalink
This Obama, Rezco and Blagojevich connection may not ever be proven, but when it smells like a rat…
ya know…
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Actually, I don’t know and neither do you. I do know that BS, innuendo, and outright lies rarely convict anyone, unless, of course, it’s the one making outright lies, BS and innuendo, such as, well, reg.
Why is it, you think, most politicians are applauding Obama’s choices, understanding there are exceptions. Because those old school foggy cons plan to assault Obama later, or they recognize Obama just may be someone they can work with? You see, reg, there are people out there who actually want the government to work, which is it direct conflict with the current admin.
You want nothing more than to see Obama fail, and think it will be fun to watch. I want to watch as a government finally has a chance of working for the people, of the people and by the people. Now THAT will be fun to watch. So you keep on with your purveyors of doom and gloom, and keep them worry wrinkles growing as your scenario fails to materialize.
“But according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, just 51 percent of Americans think Obama has said enough on the Blagojevich matter.”
Well that should certainly put it to rest. Esp since that 51% are the only ones who matter to the MSM, that being those who, like the MSM, follow The One.
21 conversations with Mr. Rahm? It is good his is above suspicion as to government corruption.
Right?
okobserver
Posted December 16, 2008 at 3:10 pm | Permalink
Steven still in that slump? Still waiting for something with substance. Attacking me is nothing new for you and the left. Same ole, same ole.
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No slump Germ. You are one really stupid dog which should be hit between the eyes with an axe handle every now and again to get you back on track.
The only way Nobama could have risen as fast as he did in the corrupt Illinois political machine was to have been involved all the way up to his oversized ears; Blago was his good buddy right up until last week when he became a liability
Yea sure…*roll eyes*…cynical…thats has gotta be it.
B.O. ain’t even in office yet and he’s already got corruption stink on his fingers.
Sure he does truth…keep dreamin dude.
51%, isn’t that what bush and rove call a mandate?