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	<title>Comments on: Get your Senate seat on eBay</title>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482884</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freaking BUSINESS buys its way into government all the time. I find the shock and outrage about this rather silly in that light.

    As Governor, it was his prerogative to pick who ever he wants to fill the seat. It isn&#039;t ETHICAL. But I can&#039;t see how it is illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freaking BUSINESS buys its way into government all the time. I find the shock and outrage about this rather silly in that light.</p>
<p>    As Governor, it was his prerogative to pick who ever he wants to fill the seat. It isn&#8217;t ETHICAL. But I can&#8217;t see how it is illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Truth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482878</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only sad part is that he got caught.  He was just trying to feed his family during these tough economic times Bush has left us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only sad part is that he got caught.  He was just trying to feed his family during these tough economic times Bush has left us.</p>
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		<title>By: Predestined</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482165</link>
		<dc:creator>Predestined</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think Blagojevich is bad?  You must have missed his predecessor.  Not sure about him being a dirty politician, but he was as weird and dumb as dirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think Blagojevich is bad?  You must have missed his predecessor.  Not sure about him being a dirty politician, but he was as weird and dumb as dirt.</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482053</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;When the phone is tapped by a federal prosecutor. As I said, did you thing contractors’ associations are social clubs?

There&#039;s more to it than that.  Certainly, part of governing is a certain amount of &lt;em&gt;quid pro quo&lt;/em&gt;; after all, there is a reason it is distasteful to watch laws (like sausage) being made.  At the same time, however, at some level, such give and take becomes more than just usual gov&#039;t machinations and becomes corruption and influence peddling.  Blagovech&#039;s acts appear to be clearly and well beyond anything that is defensible as the usual process of governing.  But just where is that line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>When the phone is tapped by a federal prosecutor. As I said, did you thing contractors’ associations are social clubs?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more to it than that.  Certainly, part of governing is a certain amount of </em><em>quid pro quo</em>; after all, there is a reason it is distasteful to watch laws (like sausage) being made.  At the same time, however, at some level, such give and take becomes more than just usual gov&#8217;t machinations and becomes corruption and influence peddling.  Blagovech&#8217;s acts appear to be clearly and well beyond anything that is defensible as the usual process of governing.  But just where is that line?</p>
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		<title>By: brian_nuevo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482050</link>
		<dc:creator>brian_nuevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gonna be a Governor seat for sale soon too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gonna be a Governor seat for sale soon too</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482040</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to have recordings of all the behind-closed-doors meetings about the WaterWalk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to have recordings of all the behind-closed-doors meetings about the WaterWalk.</p>
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		<title>By: beber</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482038</link>
		<dc:creator>beber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just when does the usual political log-rolling/deal-making become corruption or bribery?&quot; --

When the phone is tapped by a federal prosecutor. As I said, did you thing contractors&#039; associations are social clubs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just when does the usual political log-rolling/deal-making become corruption or bribery?&#8221; &#8211;</p>
<p>When the phone is tapped by a federal prosecutor. As I said, did you thing contractors&#8217; associations are social clubs?</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482036</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven Chu, director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, as his energy secretary

Could indicate a revival of nuclear power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Chu, director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, as his energy secretary</p>
<p>Could indicate a revival of nuclear power.</p>
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		<title>By: fleettwood</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482035</link>
		<dc:creator>fleettwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Chu!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Chu!</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482034</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another savvy appointment by the Obamanator!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081210/pl_nm/us_obama_energy_2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another savvy appointment by the Obamanator!<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081210/pl_nm/us_obama_energy_2" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081210/pl_nm/us_obama_energy_2</a></p>
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		<title>By: fleettwood</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482013</link>
		<dc:creator>fleettwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Money flows where nobody knows……&quot;

And, love flows where Rosemary goes and nobody knows like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Money flows where nobody knows……&#8221;</p>
<p>And, love flows where Rosemary goes and nobody knows like me.</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-482000</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When he&#039; a dem. and rove sics the atty gen. on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When he&#8217; a dem. and rove sics the atty gen. on him.</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481993</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://volokh.com/posts/1228850357.shtml

The thoughts of one considerably more learned than I on the subject.  

Just when does the usual political log-rolling/deal-making become corruption or bribery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1228850357.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://volokh.com/posts/1228850357.shtml</a></p>
<p>The thoughts of one considerably more learned than I on the subject.  </p>
<p>Just when does the usual political log-rolling/deal-making become corruption or bribery?</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481987</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Capn.  Just when it&#039;s thought you can&#039;t get any smaller and less petty, you manage to do so.  

Human nature, indeed, is unchanging; but the culture of what is acceptable behavior can change quite a bit from time and place.  It Chicago, well, it&#039;s clear what the culture accepted.  Ya think Mayor Daley is squirming today?  I&#039;m guessing so . . .

Any thoughts on the more interesting conundrum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Capn.  Just when it&#8217;s thought you can&#8217;t get any smaller and less petty, you manage to do so.  </p>
<p>Human nature, indeed, is unchanging; but the culture of what is acceptable behavior can change quite a bit from time and place.  It Chicago, well, it&#8217;s clear what the culture accepted.  Ya think Mayor Daley is squirming today?  I&#8217;m guessing so . . .</p>
<p>Any thoughts on the more interesting conundrum?</p>
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		<title>By: ANTI</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481983</link>
		<dc:creator>ANTI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money flows where nobody knows......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money flows where nobody knows&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481980</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a smaller scale - the GOBN in Wichita.  I wonder how much money gets funneled to the &#039;correct&#039; contractors for things like the Arena etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a smaller scale &#8211; the GOBN in Wichita.  I wonder how much money gets funneled to the &#8216;correct&#8217; contractors for things like the Arena etc.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481948</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But . . but . . . but . . . GMC, I thought your position was that humans are the same everywhere and at all times.

So, how can Chicago be any worse than anywhere else?

I am deeply appalled that Rod Blagetc. calls himself a Democrat.  He should be stripped of office and tried to the full extent of the law.

Same as Sen. Larry Craig . . . who&#039;s still there, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But . . but . . . but . . . GMC, I thought your position was that humans are the same everywhere and at all times.</p>
<p>So, how can Chicago be any worse than anywhere else?</p>
<p>I am deeply appalled that Rod Blagetc. calls himself a Democrat.  He should be stripped of office and tried to the full extent of the law.</p>
<p>Same as Sen. Larry Craig . . . who&#8217;s still there, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481935</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup.  Corruption is a way of life in Illinois; Chicago politics hasn&#039;t change much in years.  It&#039;s amazing that he was as brazen as he appeared to be; it just goes to show how &quot;normal&quot; he apparantly thought that sort of thing was.

However - some food for thought: 

Where is the dividing line between &quot;selling&quot; a seat, or a vote, or an appointment, and the usual political log-rolling that is a normal part of life in legislating/governing?  Is that line as clear as we like to think, or is it rather gray?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.  Corruption is a way of life in Illinois; Chicago politics hasn&#8217;t change much in years.  It&#8217;s amazing that he was as brazen as he appeared to be; it just goes to show how &#8220;normal&#8221; he apparantly thought that sort of thing was.</p>
<p>However &#8211; some food for thought: </p>
<p>Where is the dividing line between &#8220;selling&#8221; a seat, or a vote, or an appointment, and the usual political log-rolling that is a normal part of life in legislating/governing?  Is that line as clear as we like to think, or is it rather gray?</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481923</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;American_Way
Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:47 pm &#124; Permalink
Yes. So very, very sad.

A true story of
a truly dirty democrat.&quot;

Yes, one who followed a truly dirty Republican in the governor&#039;s mansion there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;American_Way<br />
Posted December 10, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink<br />
Yes. So very, very sad.</p>
<p>A true story of<br />
a truly dirty democrat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, one who followed a truly dirty Republican in the governor&#8217;s mansion there.</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481886</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Contrast and compare &quot;

Sounds like a neat trick. Why don&#039;t you post it Phantom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Contrast and compare &#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like a neat trick. Why don&#8217;t you post it Phantom?</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481878</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a similar situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a similar situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481877</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama calling for the gov&#039;s resignation. Contrast and compare to what a bush response would&#039;ve been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama calling for the gov&#8217;s resignation. Contrast and compare to what a bush response would&#8217;ve been.</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/get-your-senate-seat-on-ebay/#comment-481874</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. So very, very sad.

A true story of
a truly dirty democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. So very, very sad.</p>
<p>A true story of<br />
a truly dirty democrat.</p>
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