John McCain crushed Barack Obama in Kansas, winning 57 to 41 percent. But according to exit polls, Obama narrowly won among 18- to 29-year-old Kansas voters, 51 to 49 percent. Jenny Davidson, a Kansas Democratic Party spokeswoman, told the Lawrence Journal-World that Obama won this age group because he focused on issues that mattered to them, such as jobs, health care and making college more affordable. But Christian Morgan, executive director of the Kansas Republican Party, said that Obama got the young adult vote in Kansas “based off of the ‘coolness’ factor, not issues.”
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I’m convinced.
There’s no one in Kansas who better embodies “cool” than Christian Morgan.
http://tinyurl.com/6cm3uu
;^)
HA! What a “cool” guy!
Love the way they just can’t accept that he was the better candidate. Too bad living in Kansas means evolving into a moron as you get older…must be something in the water. My message to the young ones…get out while you still have a chance!
Trivial nonsense. Statistically meaningless.
It only can happen once. It did already.
Oh-hum.
I don’t remember McCain having a clear stand on anything other than being a “maverick” (whatever the hell that means) and running a smear campaign against Obama…
Obama actually addressed the issues. Makes me ashamed of living in a state where the majority of voters bought into the rethoric, spin, and fearmongering of the right wing. Ignorance abounds in this state..no wonder we’re the laughing stock of the country.
MK now that was freaking hillarious.
What bafoons.
Give it a few more years and maybe Kansas will be blue again after the cons all die out.
..we can only hope!
Oh but Mary, you won’t be here to see the cons die out. You’ll have left long before due to fear of becoming a moron. Or perhaps it’s too late for you already. There are so many of you, year after year, that are ashamed to live here. Why are you still here? It is the 41 percent who voted for obama that bought into the hype and spin. An empty suit with excellent speech writers and a teleprompter promised you more than he can ever provide and you bought it. Take the hook out of your mouth.
Heh Mary. I think the trick would be to leave right now and then come BACK when these younger voters are in charge.
Just think….
Adequate funding for public education, laws that actually protect our environment and natural resources, and, oh yeahhhhhhhhhh!
Gay marriage will finally be legal here because those younger voters have exponentially less bigotry at the ballot box than their lame elders.
Yep. Wake me up when these smart young voters take charge!
I think there is hope in our youth! They are better educated, less prejudiced / bigoted. During the time we’re sitting with our morning newspaper they’ve gathered more info than we will all day.
This past election it was easy for all voters to see that the losing candidate stood for nothing but fear and being “against,” while the candidate Americans elected had a clear vision and plans to take us into the future.
“Give it a few more years and maybe Kansas will be blue again after the cons all die out.”
When was Kansas ever blue?
“My message to the young ones…get out while you still have a chance!………Makes me ashamed of living in a state where the majority of voters…..”
What’s stopping YOU from leaving now?
“Yep. Wake me up when these smart young voters take charge!”
So, that’s your excuse. You must be experiencing a black out in your state of intoxication.
You’re suggesting that they are using technology for knowledge vs. downloading music on to ipods, text messaging all the live long day, etc.?
Young voters are the most uninformed.
Many have not earned a paycheck or worked for a living yet at this point in their lives. Hell, I voted for Clinton in his first term.
Young people are very idealistic. That’s not a negative thing. But the realities of how things really are come when you enter the work-force and begin to truly become part of the system.
Although it’s been said many times many ways, Kansas just sucks.
Barack HUSSEIN Obama is NOT cool. He is a demagogue, a Marxist, a dictator in waiting. He does not care about anyone but Barack HUSSEIN Obama. I am sick of seeing him and his witch of a wife every day. They are pure evil. EVIL. 60 million Americans elected this dictator wanna be. I am embarrassed to be an American because this demagogue will lead us down the road of Marxism. You liberal jerks need to wake up and stop drinking the Obama Kool-Aid. He is not cool. He is a demagogue who says whatever is politically expedient. He is simply going to be a clone of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. I hope you like 40 percent inflation. I hope you like taxes through the roof. I hope you like the idea of 10 million abortions a year, which is what will happen when Barack HUSSEIN Obama gets his way with the Freedom of Infaticide Act. I hope you like union thugs ruining buisness after buisness. I hope you know what you voted for. Most of you DID NOT. And you stupid teeny-boppers need to take the headphones out of your ears, stop playing XBox, and read what these candidates stand for. In Obama’s case, he stands for everything which is BAD about America.
Liberals, kiss my butt. I will never say anything good about HUSSEIN Obama. He has done nothing worthy of praise, and I will never drink the Kool-Aid.
Heheheh.
DNFTST
I was once young and stupid too. I voted for Jimmy Carter!
BlueJay, you don’t like Kansas, move somewhere which voted for HUSSEIN Obama. Why don’t you go live in Illinois, where the Chicago political crooks fed his Marxist fire? Or Minnesota, where Marxist Franken is trying to steal a Seante seat?
“I am embarrassed to be an American because this demagogue will lead us down the road of Marxism.”
Then…. Why dont you take the advise of your fellow cons and leave?
What is stopping you?
Living in a place you hate says more about you than the place you live!
Have I forgotten any of the con memes in this regard?
heheh. HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.
Wanna make any death threats again?
The banned bin isnt half full yet.
ksfarmgrll, another kool-aid drinker shows her face!
^ Five Linda!
A spittle filled rant from this guy is proof you are in the circle of smart and well educated people.
Not to mention sane.
Another troll I should stop feeding.
Hee hee hee heeeeeee.
The next four to eight years are going to be SO.MUCH.FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope in our youth? They get their news from Comedy Central or they read a blog online and think that it must be fact.
“Love the way they just can’t accept that he was the better candidate.”
57% of Kansans did not agree.
“Too bad living in Kansas means evolving into a moron as you get older…”
Oh so now anyone who voted against the way you think is a moron? Maybe some people get wiser as they get older.
ksfarmgrrl, you and your Marxist friends wanted to leave when Bush was elected. Conservatives are going to stand proud and stick it out and celebrate when HUSSEIN Obama fails miserably. In 2010, when the Republicans retake Congress, HUSSEIN Obama will pay the piper.
ICTisInferior- After reading your post, I keep hearing Jethro Tull’s song “Thick as a Brick”. ????
““I am embarrassed to be an American because this demagogue will lead us down the road of Marxism.”
Then…. Why dont you take the advise of your fellow cons and leave?”
heheheheh.
I forgot.
Trolls dont answer questions, they only rant.
I think you need an eye opener drink to calm your nerves dude.
Shake much?
I am 32 years old and PROUD to say I have NEVER voted for a Democrat (Marxist) for President. Never voted for a Democrat for U.S. Senate, House, or Governor. DAMN RIGHT I’m proud to be a conservative. And Bush does’t count, but it was him or ultra-liberal Gore and Kerry.
“57% of Kansans did not agree.”
That’s probably proof enough that he was the best candidate. Because, ya know, kansas is so mainstream and known for picking good leaders….
heheheh. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAH!
ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 3, 2008 at 9:00 am | Permalink
Then…. Why dont you take the advise of your fellow cons and leave?
What is stopping you?
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BlueJay
Posted December 3, 2008 at 8:54 am | Permalink
Although it’s been said many times many ways, Kansas just sucks.
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Physicians heal thyselves.
I keep hearing Jethro Tull’s song
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Off Topic-
Flutes should never be mixed with Rock n’ Roll. I think it’s in the Bible. :)
“Maybe some people get wiser as they get older.”
I did.
I voted Ronald Reagan and a straight con ticket once. THEN, I experienced the real world and found out I didn’t have the cold, dead, heart of a Republican.
ICTisInferior, how come you aren’t serving in Iraq? You are still of age to enlist so why don’t you take your brave little self over to the recruitment office? Or are all you are capable of is talking $hit?
“I am 32 years old and PROUD to say I have NEVER voted for a Democrat (Marxist) for President.”
Wow. I bet we are ALL surprised you’ve never voted for a democrat. I kinda wonder if you’ve ever voted at all. It’s probably hard to find your way out of mommy’s basement.
You are also proudly, and…. profoundly… ignorant.
Rant on dude. You are helping your cause so much.
PALIN 2012!
gster, I understand what HUSSEIN Obama is all about. A politician who will say anything to get elected, a politiican who lies without impunity. He lied through his teeth to get votes, but he will show himself as a hard left fanatic who will tilt this country down the road to Marxism. Kool-Aid drinkers seem to forget Obama has said on numerous occasions he wants to “redistrubte wealth”. And he has said NOTHING to stop Pelosi and her Marxist minions from doing it.
Somehow disagreeing with a person who uses INFERIOR as their blogging nic, makes me feel good, smart, happy, contented and peaceful. ;-)
peace.
it does not mean to be in a place
where there is no noise, trouble
or hard work. it means to be in
the midst of those things and still
be calm in your heart.
“ICTisInferior- After reading your post, I keep hearing Jethro Tull’s song “Thick as a Brick”. ????”
Heh Gster.
And I keep hearing the Vonage guy singin “woo hoo, woo hoo hoo”….
Arabs, and especially Palestinians, say the news has dampened their optimism that Obama will veer from the Bush administration’s hawkish policies and from what they call America’s pro-Israel tilt — http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Middle_East/10264279.html —
Oh – but he’s a cooool and classy kinda guy – and THAT’s what counts
“I have problems that won’t allow me to serve.”
No “siht”?
I’m glad the “youth” I’m around aren’t the same ones many of you speak of in demeaning terms.
Wait.
Maybe it is how you perceive them that gets you nothing more than you expect?
farmgrrl, I do NOT support Palin. Palin is a blowhard dumb bimbo. I’ve already thrown my support behind Bobby Jindal, who will send HUSEEIN Obama back to private life in 2012.
While I’m not a Palin supporter, what you Marxists have done to Palin is reprehensible. What did she ever do to you other than disparage your wrong-headed views?
I think this is the same wingnut troll who claimed to be “tyler durden” in a wheelchair.
Probably in reality it’s a straight jacket, not a wheelchair.
“I have problems that won’t allow me to serve.”
It must have something to do with the military not having velcro laces for the boots, or the requirement to pass a basic IQ test.
But the realities of how things really are come when you enter the work-force and begin to truly become part of the system.
Look around. See the realities? The economy has never been good under Dubya’s administration. It’s been bad, not so bad, and getting really bad. Entering the work-force isn’t a walk in the park when jobs aren’t there. For eight years, Dubya has done NOTHING, except make his fat cat cronies richer, and now they whine because the tower of cards they built is falling around them. They want help! From us! The ones they screwed.
There’s your realities.
Oh, yeah. And Dubya says he’s sorry. See how well “sorry” feeds the family?
I think I’ll feed myself and the chickens instead of this troll.
Pancakes with hot syrup and good bacon for me.
Laying mash for the chickens….
Oh, and I think ict/donn’s table is ready too.
“Bitter? Party of one? Bitter?”
ksfarmgrrl, you don’t know who I am. I have never heard of tyler durden or whatever his name is. Quit making stupid accusations like your hero HUSSEIN Obama did against Bush and McCain.
ICT, take it easy man. You’ll blow a gasket. Liberals can be purposely aggravating, but the hate and animosity is no good for anyone.
Quarter million jobs disappeared in Nov. alone.
“Monkeyhawk, I’m not that desperate. Sorry. I wouldn’t give you a penny.”
You’ll kick his ass for free? You sound like quite the Marxist.
Predestined, I have never been a big fan of Bush. He has spent like a drunken sailor and allowed millions of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS across our borders. But Obama will be worse. He will take us down the road of Marxism.
BOYCOTT MID-CONTINENT AIRPORT! ICT IS INFERIOR! KCI IS SUPERIOR!
“ksfarmgrrl, you don’t know who I am”
Heh. And for that? I’m thankful.
And kfg, dear? That would be calling your own table.
BOYCOTT MID-CONTINENT AIRPORT! ICT IS INFERIOR! KCI IS SUPERIOR!
The middle class never actually participated in the ‘recovery’ which has given way to a recession last Dec., so there is very little reserve in the country to weather this coming storm.
…and I will never drink the Kool-Aid.
That’s cool. You can drink water to take your meds.
Heh
BlueJay sings…
Send in the clowns.
Is electric shock therapy available in KC?
Just following the pied piper.
“When, lo, as they reached the mountain’s side,
A wondrous portal opened wide,
As if a cavern was suddenly hollowed;
And the Piper advanced and the children followed,
And when all were in to the very last,
The door in the mountain-side shut fast.”
I’m pretty sure that Morgan is ‘correct.’ (You can’t say that anyone is ‘right’ on this blog anymore, ’cause that word has a whole different meaning to people here whose lives are entirely consumed by pointless political debate.) But it has always been that way – the kids always vote for ‘young and cool.’ We boomers did that back in the ’60s. 95% of the anti-war crowd had absolutely no concept of what U.S. foreign policy was. Most of them couldn’t have pointed to Vietnam on a map. They just hung with the anti-war crowd because that’s where they could get the best drugs. They voted for whoamever Jane Fonda, Joan Baez and Stephen Stills told them to vote for because those guys were ‘cool.’ I’d bet that the vast majority or young voters who voted for Obama (or McCain for that matter) couldn’t point to Afganistan or Iraq on a map. But that doesn’t mean the reasoning of some older voters isn’t just a skewed. An older woman told me that she voted for Obama “… just because (she) thought it would be nice to have children running through the halls at the White House again.” I don’t think that political issues or current events will ever be tools that can accurately forcast how a particular age group will vote. There are too many people with ‘different agendas’ out there to make that work. (’Different agendas’ is the kindest way I can say it.)
Kool aide, kool aide taste great, kool aide, kool aide can’t wait! The kool aide kids are back again, to vist other lands, be sure to join them and when you do, be sure to have some kool aide too!
“We boomers did that back in the ’60s.” — WAR
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Many boomers got better and smarter with age.
Still meaningless.
When the youth age, the will become the establishment. They will vote accordingly.
Obama will be old.
Tempus fugit
But a thread like this makes for increased hits for the dying newspaper industry.
“We boomers did that back in the ’60s. 95% of the anti-war crowd had absolutely no concept”
Who cared about the war? It was a place to pick up chicks. Or score some weed.
“I think there is hope in our youth! They are better educated, less prejudiced / bigoted.”
I don’t think learning how to put a condom on a banana, capturing flatulence, or recognizing art as a crucifix in urine, is being better educated.
The youth in Kansas in the have supported have supported Democrats by a wider margin than the slim 51% to 49%. This is less than the country as whole which was 53% to 47%. This is despite being inundated by the “me first” agenda of the teachers unions and the MSM.
There is still hope.
Capturing flatulence?
That’s so cool!
Wow I just can’t get mad at reading what ICTisInferior posts…because he is so off the charts…what is the word I am looking for…hmmm..
Stupid. Yes, that is the word. Please continue to spew your idiotic mummbles it is entertaining.
There will always be differences in opinion between the majority of the old and young ranks. People at different age brackets tend to have different ideas of the direction they want goverment to go and what issues are more important at any given time. Just the way it is.
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Mr_Kia
Posted December 3, 2008 at 9:29 am | Permalink
“Capturing flatulence?
That’s so cool!”
That’s what the chicken grrl does after she feeds her chickens and spanks her pigs. Where else does she get her ideas?
Barack Obama ran on one issue.
McCain is “McSame”.
That is all liberal bloggers had to blog about.
Obama advertised all types of media (video games included) to establish his brand to the naive voter. But as we know from those clever MAC commercialls, just becuase you spend a ton of money on advertising, doesn’t mean you make the product any better.
Many voters fell for it. “If I vote for McCain, I know what I have got. If I vote for Obama, I vote for something that might be better”.
This is described perfectly well in Aesops fable of the Dog with the Bone.
The dog stands over the pool of water and drops the bone in his mouth to get the one he sees in the reflection. It looks like a better bone.
Naive dog, naive voters.
Change in party isn’t change in politics.
McCain is “McSame”.
That is all liberal bloggers had to blog about.
Could that be because “McSame” had next to zilch to say about the issues?
So, Laura’s refusing to hang the ‘impeach bush’ xmas ball on the W.H. Xmas tree, what a scumbag!
Lenin and Trosky had the young Bolsheviks to get the leftist Revolution started. Young people revolted against the old regime to establish to their chagrin a much worse economic system.
Chairman Mao had the Red Guard which were young idealists who were stirred up to marginalize the “rightists”. The “rightists” mind you were artisans and the educated who actually knew how produce, manage and create wealth. They were an force eliminated in order to get a true revolution underway.
The gullible youth are always easy prey for Change minded politicians.
“Could that be because “McSame” had next to zilch to say about the issues?”
Could it be that Obama had next to nothing to say about the issues himself?
Instead, Obama’s issue lacking central campaign strategy:
McCain is McSame.
“Transformational Marxists advocated a “slow march through the institutions,” as famous Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci would say.”
It seems we are here my friends.
http://www.newswithviews.com/community_policing/community_policing.htm
It’s nice to see that the RepubliCONs basically admit that McCain and their other CON candidates are not cool.
Recognizing the problem is the first step to solving it.
The Republican party has NO problems! It was just bush and McCain and now they’re dealt with and in the past and everything is comin’ up roses!
PALIN 2012! Go Sarah!
ICT–
You know what the difference is between label and libel?
In your case, absolutely nothing.
Here let me post for you: Marxist, Arab, taxraising, terrorist, terrorist Marxist, Arab terrorist, Hussein taxraiser, terrorist liar.
That about summs it up, doesn’t it.
You are now officially a complete scroll over.
RFL,
Good point.
Of course after Lenin was finished with the Trosky and Bolsheviks, they were disposed of by way of Siberia. Now all we have to do is wait till the ACORN types are thrown under the buss just like Rev. Wright.
I hope Obama is smart enough to know he needs the “rightists” to produce, manage and create wealth in order to save us from going the way Russia did.
As I said the other day if cool is what we need we should just run The Fonz.
“Capturing flatulence?”
You mean like, “We have you surrounded. Come out with your hands up”!?
OMG! We are not going to be communists! LOL! That idea is crazy!
You can put the policies in whatever wrapper you want and call it something different.
“PALIN 2012! Go Sarah!”
This is the post script that every pompom waving, logic defficient Democratic blogger is supposed to include in each post to serve as a substitute for substantive discussion.
Here is a never ending task:
Look for “PALIN 2012! Go Sarah!” and then try to find anything but Democratic drool and “Republicans Suck!” comments preceeding it.
Sarah Palin is popular. And she’s a pro-life woman. Only reason she has been so villified by the left.
She scares the flatulence (see earlier references LOL) out of them.
Sarah Palin has “energized” more voters than most candidates.
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/sarah-palin-blow-up-love-doll/
There ya go cons, the answer to your prayers.
DonnDumblin
Have you even been to Ireland?
As for your assertion that Obama needs “rightists to create and manage wealth,” DonnyBoy, have you looked at a newspaper lately?
We’ve given the “rightists” everything they’ve wanted for the last eight years: historically low taxes on the rich creating massive deficits and wealth inequality coupled with de-regulating EVERYTHING.
And how’s the economy doing?
Stock market is off 30 percent of what it was in 1999. The US has been in recession for a full year with no end in sight. Financial institutions and car makers either in bankruptcy or on the verge of bankruptcy.
Dude, what has to happen to prove to you that your side is wrong?
“Dude, what has to happen to prove to you that your side is wrong?”
He wouldnt believe it if jesus himself said it!
Look how wound up they get when it’s noted that their supply side voodoo economics is a failure.
It’s their golden calf.
gster:
Don’t insult one of my all time favorite songs like that :)
Ksgrrl–
Yup, you’re right of course.
If this economy had happened after 8 years of Lib rule, I’d be seriously reassessing my core assumptions.
But not the CONs.
They prove over and over again that “it’s not what you don’t know that hurts you; it’s what you think you know that ain’t so.”
The Church of the Holy Marketplace has a jealous god: Mammon.
He allows no other god to be placed before him!
Hey fleetwood,
Don’t tell them to raise their hands because their pits are just as aromatic as their asses.
Tax Revenues have been at all-time highs during the last 8 years.
It’s spending that is the problem.
Kinda like your breath dublin?
“historically low taxes on the rich creating massive deficits and wealth inequality…”
#1) Low taxes don’t create deficits. Deficits are caused by ___________. Come on, this is easy.
#2) What does “wealth inequality” mean?
“What does “wealth inequality” mean?” — Bleatwood
El Salvador
“El Salvador”
The Saviour?
“It’s spending that is the problem.” — mr. diarrhea
It’s the spending on the military that is the problem.
HUSSEIN Obama
kekekekeke
Recommended spending cuts from someone using elementary school nicknames.
LOL
donndublin
Posted December 3, 2008 at 11:32 am | Permalink
Hey fleetwood,
Don’t tell them to raise their hands because their pits are just as aromatic as their asses.
_________________________________________________
Spend a lot of time sniffing a$$es? You sound like you know what you’re talking about. Must have a lot of experience.
CapAm
Have you ever been to Russia or Cuba?
The economy was doing fine until Bwaney Fwank took control and with his ACORN agitators pressured the Banks to start making loans to people who had no intention of paying them back. This started the whole stack of cards to come falling down just in time for the libs to add gasoline to the fire and scar the sheeple to vote for change.
Obama will being doing a moon walk (back sliding) to get it back in line.
I love the posts coming from the ‘donndublin’ character!
He is the perfect embodiment of the ‘Christian’ with the WWJD and ichthys stickers on his car who tailgates you aggressively, then zooms around, gives you the finger, then cuts in front of your car without signaling and drives 5 under the speed limit while cussing and flipping you off again.
“Mr_Kia
Posted December 3, 2008 at 10:34 am | Permalink
Sarah Palin is popular. And she’s a pro-life woman. Only reason she has been so villified by the left….”
That and she is what I like to call a ‘religious kook’.
ICTisInferior – one question for you…. where do you live right now?
The Obama worship continues.
Prayer meeting at 7
MrC- Point taken.
“Tax Revenues have been at all-time highs during the last 8 years.”
Source?
lindainks55
Posted December 3, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink
“We boomers did that back in the ’60s.” — WAR–
“Many boomers got better and smarter with age.” – lindainks55
Yeah, Linda, I like to think I did, but I’m not going to make any flucuant claims at this time. Still looking for that hard evidence.
brian_nuevo
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
“Mr_Kia
Posted December 3, 2008 at 10:34 am | Permalink
Sarah Palin is popular. And she’s a pro-life woman. Only reason she has been so villified by the left….”
That and she is what I like to call a ‘religious kook’.
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That’s a compliment coming from the left.
Somebody help me out here.
Is Obama a Muslim Marxist Socialist Revolutionary who’s going to take all our guns away and give all our money to welfare mothers on crack? Or is he a media celebrity and an empty suit who would say anything to get elected, and won’t change anything at all?
Just trying to keep track. :)
Fleetwood,
You can’t use free market economy terms with marxists.
wealth redistribution = spreading the misery
Example: One guy has a pb&j sandwich that he got up early before to take for lunch. Another guy slept late after staying up late trolling the night before and he had no time to make a sandwich for himself. When lunch time came the guy without a sandwich complains and along comes the lunch room monitor named Obamuh uh uh uh. He takes the pb&j from the one who made it and after taking a big bite, tears it in two and gives the remaining crumbs to the one without.
Good Point Rage.
Furthermore:
Is Obama really for Change or is he going to be more of the Same?
Democrats who say he is not a marxist revolutionary have a hard time explaining how he is going to change anything if he is not any of those things you listed.
If he is going to bring about Change, what change is he talking about?
“Mr_Kia
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink
That’s a compliment coming from the left.”
If you identify with Palin’s policies and would support her as a leader of our country then I have some more compliments for you
Democrats who say he is not a marxist revolutionary have a hard time explaining how he is going to change anything if he is not any of those things you listed.
O. . .kay.
Thanks for sharing your thought processes, RFL, such as they are.
That and she is what I like to call a ‘religious kook’.
Please explain what a “religious kook” is.
Follow that up with explaining and how Palin’s church affiliations are of more concern than Obama’s.
All the same to you Rage.
Follow that up with explaining and how Palin’s church affiliations are of more concern than Obama’s.
Great point, RFL. She’d be perfect!
PALIN 2012!
“Rage
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink
….
O. . .kay.
Thanks for sharing your thought processes, RFL, such as they are.”
rather loose with your use of the word ‘thought’ there weren’t you Rage?
Brian,
“He is the perfect embodiment of the ‘Christian’ with the WWJD and ichthys stickers on his car who tailgates you aggressively, then zooms around, gives you the finger, then cuts in front of your car without signaling and drives 5 under the speed limit while cussing and flipping you off again”
You should stay on the sidewalk with you tricycle before you get run over.
How many times have you copied and pasted that comment?
“RFL
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
…Please explain what a “religious kook” is.
Follow that up with explaining and how Palin’s church affiliations are of more concern than Obama’s.”
Educational hour doesn’t start until 4.
Please take a number though, it will be first come, first served.
“donndublin
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:38 pm | Permalink
Case in point:
“You should stay on the sidewalk with you tricycle before you get run over.”
“How many times have you copied and pasted that comment?” – This was the first, thanks for asking. Alas, it is my own comment so I can and will use it ad nauseum.
Rage defends Obama when Obama subtly and aptly reveals that he is a Socialist Marxist. Rage points to so callled successes in socialism during the rule under Mitterand in France. Socialist France (high unemployment and inferior health coverage) is Rage’s model of perfection by the way.
When Obama’s opponents point out that Obama ran on no singular issue whatsoever other then nebulous change, Rage wonders how can Obama be a socialist marxist if he is an empty suit?
Which is is Rage, do you support the socialist marxism of Obama or not?
Rage can’t even make up his mind how to defend Obama without contradicting himself in the process.
Mr. Killed-in-Action says that “tax revenues have been at an all time high” and refuses to give a source.
Here’re the real facts from Nobel prizewinning economist Paul Krugman:
“What you see (in the graph) is that there was a huge revenue increase during the Clinton years. There was also the much-touted revenue surge of the later Bush years, but this followed a spectacular revenue plunge earlier.
At this point (2008) real revenue per capita is only slightly higher than it was at the end of the 1990s. That’s actually abnormal: given the long-term growth of the US economy, we should have expected a continuing upward trend in revenues per capita.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/taxes-and-revenues-another-history-lesson/
What Krugman’s graph shows is that after Clinton’s tax INCREASE, tax revenues went up steadily from about 5250 dollars/person to 7250 dollars/person in 2000. From 2000-2001, they fell some 10 percent.
In 2001, Bush cut taxes and revenues fell more to what they were in 1996. In 2003, Bush cut taxes again, and revenues did increase, but only to the levels collected in the 90’s–NOT AN ALL-TIME HIGH as Mr. Kia lied.
Even now, tax revenues per capita are barely higher than they were at Clinton’s peak eight years ago, which is bad given inflation and expected growth.
Meanwhile the national debt DOUBLED.
RFL, your questions are akin to asking someone if they have stopped beating their wife yet.
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brian_nuevo
Posted December 2, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
“donndublin,
I would appreciate if you would not apply the label of Christian for yourself.
You are probably the guy with the WWJD? bumper sticker and Jesus fish who tailgates then zooms around, giving me the finger, and cuts me off, all without signaling.”
brian_nuevo
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink
“This was the first, thanks for asking. Alas, it is my own comment so I can and will use it ad nauseum.”
From wikapedia: Ad nauseam is a Latin term used to describe an argument that has been continuing “[to the point of] nausea”.
You’ve got that right.
RFL–
If France has “inferior health care,” why do Frenchmen live longer than Americans even though they tend to smoke like chimneys?
Is anything you say fact-based? Or is it all talking through your hat?
When asked to back up a simple statment, nuevo gives this response:
“Educational hour doesn’t start until 4.
Please take a number though, it will be first come, first served.”
brian_nuevo, playing the Obama voter stereotype, is ill-equipped to back up his own statements.
“donndublin
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:51 pm | Permalink
From wikapedia: Ad nauseam is a Latin term used to describe an argument that has been continuing “[to the point of] nausea”.
You’ve got that right.”
I am well aware of what it means, that is why I made that particular choice of words.
I plan to copy and paste that post until I am sick of doing so (hence, ad nauseum).
DonnDumblin–
Unlike you, I will answer questions.
I have never been to Russia. Since it is illegal for Americans to visit Cuba, I have never been to Cuba either.
I have lived in Communist China for a year. I didn’t agree with it, and I spoke on the virtues of a free market economy every chance I got.
Just because there’s something worse than the kind of de-regulated “robber-barron-take-all” system that we have doesn’t mean that our system is ideal.
And, yes, I have actually been to Dublin.
“CapnAmerica
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:51 pm | Permalink
RFL–
If France has “inferior health care,” why do Frenchmen live longer than Americans even though they tend to smoke like chimneys?”
it is the topless beaches
Capn,
The diet in France is much healthier. There is practically no such thing as “fast” food. Nobody eats processed food. Cooking is a art form not something to do just to fill your gut in a hurry.
However, there is an enormous waiting list to be seen by a doctor. Socialized medicine means that everyone by nature abuses the system. Also, doctors do not have a profit motive to provide premium care to their patients.
brian_nuevo, playing the Obama voter stereotype, is ill-equipped to back up his own statements.
OR
RFL, playing the CON stereotype, is ill-equipped to back up his own statements: statements such as “France has an inferior health care system.”
Really? Inferior to what? And you know that how?
“RFL
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink
…brian_nuevo, playing the Obama voter stereotype, is ill-equipped to back up his own statements.”
On the contrary, I am quite well equipped to do so, lest I would not have made them.
However, I choose not to indulge your request for an explanation when you have frequently made it obvious you are in no way open minded enough to listen to statements different from your preconceived ideas.
“Nobody [in France] eats processed food.”
I guess all the packed McDonald’s I saw in Paris were just my lying eyes.
BTW, what waiting lines? The French doctors are perhaps the last in the civilized world to practice HOUSE CALLS.
Rage points to so callled successes in socialism during the rule under Mitterand in France.
For the benefit of thinking people, I had previously mentioned (some time back) the fact of Mitterand’s longstanding Socialist government in France, both as a contrast to Obama’s modestly progressive agenda and a reminder that even genuine SOCIALISMMMM! isn’t necessarily the end of the world. And also to underscore how ridiculous these people are who equate progressive taxation and vaguely liberal economics with socialism.
I have more important things to do than snort this particular red herring, but if anyone else really wants to discuss historical political systems with this person, be my guest, heheheh!
“RFL
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink
Capn,
The diet in France is much healthier. There is practically no such thing as “fast” food. Nobody eats processed food. Cooking is a art form not something to do just to fill your gut in a hurry.”
When I was there a few months ago, I ate pretty much the same things I eat here. The food options are the same. (including McDonalds which actually has a pretty good croque-monsieur).
Cooking is no more an art form there than it is here.
The difference is the diner themself. People take their time to eat every meal. They enjoy eating, they enjoy food (what ever the nutritional content). There is no 30 minute lunch. (That is why some American have bad experiences in French restaurants – it is impossible to get in fast, eat, and get out fast.)
“Rage
Posted December 3, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink
I have more important things to do than snort this particular red herring, but if anyone else really wants to discuss historical political systems with this person, be my guest, heheheh!”
I would really like to know how you added bold and italic formatting to your post :)
Hallajuah! I finally figured out how to get rid of Mr. KIA.
Just ask him to back up his assertion (that Bush’s tax revenues are at all-time highs) with an actual source.
They haven’t been from 2001-2007. And you can bet that since we’re now officially in recession, the one good year he seemed to be having is going to fall back into the miserable column . . .
Capn, Brian, didn’t you get the memo? It’s SOCIALISMMM!, and therefore pure evil.
Quit confusing people with facts.
Heh, Brian. They are pobrecitos, no?
If France has “inferior health care,” why do Frenchmen live longer than Americans even though they tend to smoke like chimneys?
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Smokes don’t cause cancer…..
Drinking is good for you….
Shaving kills sooner than not shaving….
Well, maybe it is the topless beaches!
Captain, when asked for proof, they go poof!
My column this week was a rant on the most welcome death and discredit of supply side economics.
We’ll see if I still have a column next week….
You wouldnt have liked it though :(
I got in a few licks on governor leadership!
Si, es la verdad
:)
“ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 3, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink
Captain, when asked for proof, they go poof!”
LOL
Largest 4-year increase in US History.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pdupont/?id=110010798
I should have said since the 2003 cuts Yes.
But all you can do when proven wrong (you state thru 2007) is nit pick.
GFYS
If France has “inferior health care,” why do Frenchmen live longer than Americans even though they tend to smoke like chimneys?
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I’ve got it!
French women are quieter than American women!…
and topless.
“That and she is what I like to call a ‘religious kook’.”
-brian
“Please explain what a “religious kook” is.
Follow that up with explaining and how Palin’s church affiliations are of more concern than Obama’s”
-RFL
“RFL, your questions are akin to asking someone if they have stopped beating their wife yet.”
-brian
brian,
Sorry if you do not like being asked to support your own statements using some form of logic.
Good luck in improving your ability in that area.
heheheh :)
They wouldnt know “verdad” if it bit ‘em in the ass…
I would really like to know how you added bold and italic formatting to your post :)
Just two ancient HTML tags: i and b . Put them in between angle brackets (lessthan/greaterthan signs) for the open tag. For the close tag, same thing, except you put a forward slash after then less-than angle bracket.
Those are deprecated tags, but they’re easier to type than “strong”? :)
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/article.php/3478151
CapnAmerica
Posted December 3, 2008 at 12:48 pm | Permalink
In 2001, Bush cut taxes and revenues fell more to what they were in 1996. In 2003, Bush cut taxes again, and revenues did increase, but only to the levels collected in the 90’s–NOT AN ALL-TIME HIGH as Mr. Kia lied.
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Lying Lies and the Liars who tell them. CapnA.
Crawl back into your hole. You’re celebrating recession because you think you are proving someone wrong.
I think it’s dispicable.
When my girlfriend thinks I’m being too whiney, she always says, with great dramatic effect, “pauvre petit”.
Thanks to you, I now torture her back with “pobrecita”.
You’d like her!
“I guess all the packed McDonald’s I saw in Paris were just my lying eyes.”
The parisians need a place for the fat American Tourists to eat at.
Which is explains perfectly why Capn, while in Paris France, went to McDonalds.
“GFYS”
I’m pretty sure the baby jesus cries over acronyms too.
ksfarmgrrl,
sounds like it :)
Didn’t Jesus grow up?
Good grief, it was Brian who said that he’d RECENTLY been in France, not Captain.
Do try to keep up….
I guess it isnt just women they think all look alike in the dark. Or on line.
“RFL
Posted December 3, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Permalink
…Good luck in improving your ability in that area.”
Thanks
John Prine has the answer for “Jesus, the Missing Years”.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 3, 2008 at 1:17 pm | Permalink
“GFYS”
I’m pretty sure the baby jesus cries over acronyms too.
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I’m not perfect. I have a temper like anyone else.
However I have a God who is.
Jesus, the Missing Years
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LOL, 10 year Hebrew Woodstock?
“ANTI
Posted December 3, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink
Didn’t Jesus grow up?”
Yeah, I think he works for Cornejo.
You mean Jesus Guerrera right?
(/Hay-soos/)…. (/Hay-soos/)
ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 3, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink
Captain, when asked for proof, they go poof!
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How that work out yesterday for you?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah, I think he works for Cornejo.
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No, Cornejo got raided. He works for Con-Agra now.
Capn,
“Have you even been to Ireland?”
Never. Point being??????????????????
“I have lived in Communist China for a year. I didn’t agree with it, and I spoke on the virtues of a free market economy every chance I got.”
It looks like they got to you.
“How that work out yesterday for you?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA”
I have NO idea what you are talking about.
Which is explains perfectly why Capn, while in Paris France, went to McDonalds.
F’ing priceless
Of course you don’t.
It’s part of the liberal selective memory syndrome.
That means never having to admit you are wrong.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/12/new-tif-proposal-is-good-compromise/#comments
No, Cornejo got raided. He works for Con-Agra now.
No, Con-Agra got raided. He works for Cargill now.
Jesus, the illegal immigrant
Jesus, the illegal immigrant
Movin’ from job to job
That’s got the makings of a fine Christmas song!
Heh Kia. All I see on that thread are posts where YOU are dodging MY questions.
Which you still have not clarified what it was in reference too?
Clarified? WHAT the hell do you want “clarified”?
butter
two sticks clarified please
HA! Could we have some lobster with our drawn butter?
As opposed to, ya know, butter with our lobster?
If you want to discuss yesterday’s dodge you can answer my question from 1:15pm in the linked thread yesterday.
(5 minutes after your slam but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you had customers to feed.)
Oh for cryin’ out loud. That was too stupid to respond to yesterday, but if you insist….
I do NOT understand cons who think government helping business is good, but government helping people is bad. The “government cheese” was shorthand.
A hand out is a handout is a handout. No matter if it’s corporate tax loop holes, corporate welfare like subsidies, or direct handouts like the bailout.
ANYTHING to help business seems to be ok with you all. But ANYTHING to help real live people is somehow bad.
Jesus WEPT!
If handouts make humans weak, why wouldnt they make businesses weaker too?
Oh, never mind. They do. Read the business section lately? All these businesses that have gotten handouts, whether low or no interest loans, subsidized workforce development, outright grants, or protected markets are, um, not doing so well.
Wanna end government help for humans? Fine. Let’s also eliminate corporate welfare. You first.
Wanna end government help for humans? Fine. Let’s also eliminate corporate welfare. You first.
Sheeeeeaht. Gladly. Put my ass in charge. Get things whipped straight lickity split !!!
SOL 2012! GO SOL!!
Accepting political contributions….
I don’t think the average American would like life in a purely free market, no-government-assistance-for-individuals-or-businesses, personal-responsibility-for-your-own-success-or-failure America.
Real live people need jobs.
You’re either self-employed (and more than likely employee others) OR you work for a company of some kind.
I imagine then you are against this?
“Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses, cut corporate taxes for firms that invest and create jobs in the United States, and provide tax credits to reduce the cost of healthcare and to reward investments in innovation.”
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/taxes/Factsheet_Tax_Plan_FINAL.pdf
Why did you cast your ballot for him? It sure wasn’t his stance on gay marriage.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3375059/Barack-Obama-marriage-is-between-a-man-and-a-woman.html
I think that all they gay couples in Kansas should have a marriage ceremony on MR Kia front porch. LOL.
“Why did you cast your ballot for him? It sure wasn’t his stance on gay marriage.”
You are right about that, as any reader here will remember from the primary.
And mcsame and bible spice were worse on equality issues across the board.
““Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses, cut corporate taxes for firms that invest and create jobs in the United States”
Yeah. I am against those. They always end up being bullshit givaways with no accountability. And counting jobs created and retained is completely bogus. Remember, I was in that biz for over twenty years. Any half assed economic development person can make those “counting” numbers say anything. And they usually do.
“provide tax credits to reduce the cost of healthcare and to reward investments in innovation.”
I’m not against those things. They are more quantifiable. And encouraging and rewarding innovation are always good things. The old SBIR program was a good one, until it was corrupted by bushco.
Because ya know, then it became another corporate welfare handout.
“I don’t think the average American would like life in a purely free market”
I agree. It would be brutal on a scale most people cant imagine.
But I notice that as soon as they are confronted with the “all or nothing” scenario…
They start crawfishin’ as fast as they can. They will NEVER give up their devotion to their corporate and/or wealthy masters.
Hell, they have a one in one billion chance of being one!
Oh and another reason I voted against mcsame? (notice, I didnt vote FOR obama?)
I could not harbor the thought that bible spice would be one heartbeat away from the oval office while mcsame had one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel.
CYNTHIAAAAAAAAAAA
I voted for Barr. Butthole, but better than the other two.
Oops, I guess I have yet to provide my answer to the WEBlog’s question: “Did Obama win young Kansans because he is ‘cool’?”
No. Obama won the vote of young Kansans because he more closely matched their demographic and ideals.
(At lease for 51% he matched better than McCain)
““Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses, cut corporate taxes for firms that invest and create jobs in the United States”
Yeah. I am against those. They always end up being bullshit givaways with no accountability. And counting jobs created and retained is completely bogus. Remember, I was in that biz for over twenty years. Any half assed economic development person can make those “counting” numbers say anything. And they usually do.
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Well we have some common ground then.
I’m sure that sickens you. LOL
It shouldn’t be that difficult.
You either have increased number of persons in your payroll or you don’t.
You have a store/business front in a targeted neighborhood or you don’t.
You are creating (and or investing in research) into a targeted product or industry or you aren’t.
As I wrote my last comment, I realized that this was the first Presidential election where I do not fit into the ‘young Kansan’ demographic.
I am going to go reflect on wasted youth over another cup of coffee….
I agree. It would be brutal on a scale most people cant imagine.
Yep. And those who advocate Social Darwinism seem not to realize that it wouldn’t necessarily select for international fitness. It would be brutal for America as well.
By the way, I partially agree with DavosRacheros. I think gay couples should start holding very public weddings. There are ministers–even in Kansas–who would be glad to officiate.
Maybe it’s a bad idea. It could certainly cheapen that special moment (or on the other hand, be quite expen$ive), but it would certainly show the unfairness of it all.
“Rage
Posted December 3, 2008 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
…By the way, I partially agree with DavosRacheros. I think gay couples should start holding very public weddings. There are ministers–even in Kansas–who would be glad to officiate.”
I am surprised that does not happen more. There is nothing prohibiting a church from holding a wedding and marrying two people.
Granted, they would not be able to sign the civil marriage certificate for the State afterward, but it would still be an official, valid church marriage (albiet one without the rights granted by the state to ‘normal’ marriages)
“Get things whipped straight lickity split !!!”
I’m all for the lickity split part! Ain’t that right, farmgirl?
Yea it is unfortunate that most couples don’t hold very public ceremonies. I understand why, I can’t blame them with all the judgmental heathens out there.
(albiet one without the rights granted by the state to ‘normal’ marriages)
Precisely. And it would lay bare what the bigots were really “protecting.”
It does happen in churches, there just is less paperwork to file I guess.
I can’t blame them with all the judgmental heathens out there.
Yes, there are, unfortunately, safety concerns. But I would gladly attend strangers’ weddings, just on general principle. A good crowd could make the difference.
I have to go soon. However, you have some misconceptions there about “jobs”.
Humans need a way to make a living. That does NOT necessarily mean a “job” in the traditional sense of the word. And if someone has “social problems” like being homeless, being hungry, no child care, no transportation, no education or training and no way to get it, then just creating “jobs” doesnt do “siht”. For ANYBODY.
Right now, there are more “jobs” available, even in WESTERN Kansas, then there are suitable people to fill those jobs. Ask any business owner. Their biggest problem is finding suitable workers. The need for more “jobs” is largely an urban myth.
Need an example? How about the mobile home mfg in Plainville that closed this year. Not because they werent profitable, not because they didnt have the work, but because they couldnt find enough workers. They consolidated operations in another state, with a better workforce, and closed the Plainville plant. That’s PLAINVILLE, for god’s sake, twenty miles north of Hays.
And HAYS’ biggest problem, according to their e.d. guy, is having enough workers for the jobs available. They have about 400 more jobs than people to fill them. That’s why they have the website hayshasjobs.com and BILLBOARDS on I-70 advertising that “hays has jobs”.
Businesses only create permanent jobs when it is profitable for them to do so. All the handouts in the world will NOT get them to create one freakin’ job if the JOB isnt profitable for them. And guaranteeing them “profit” is socialism of the WORST kind.
So… unless you are going to continue the handouts for “jobs” in perpetuity, it’s a losing battle.
Think I’m wrong?
Look at the “results” of economic development as it is practiced in Kansas.
What businesses in Kansas really need is help in finding and expanding markets for their products and services. They need a reliable pool of trained or trainable workers. They need technical help sometimes in design and production, and maybe even packaging, warehousing and transportation.
What they DONT need is free real estate. Or handouts for artificially created or retained jobs. Or more tax breaks. Economic development in kansas is ass backwards. We tell companies what we can give them, which, if helpful, of course they will take. And if we provide adequate funding for education and training in our schools, both secondary and post, we wont HAVE to subsidize job specific training.
But we dont even TRY to ask businesses what they need or give them what they need/want. We just have lots of empty buildings so we say “free real estate” or “low interest loans” because we have the loan programs. And we give away tons of specific “job training” money for training that they should be providing for themselves.
All those cool freebies may/may not be what the business actually needs. But in Kansas? We dont GIVE a rat’s ass what they need. We just pawn off what we want them to have, and then wonder why the state is such a “siht” hole.
Christ. They have to be profitable BEFORE a tax break is helpful. And even then, a good cost accountant is probably more helpful than an official government tax “break”.
They have to be credit worthy and have a good cash flow projection and business plan for a public loan program to be successful. If not? It’s more government cheese just because we have the cheese to give away. If they are credit worthy, the private sector will provide the loans, and at recent interest rates, usually at a lower rate than the public sector loan programs.
What we give away now in Kansas is the equivalent of “government cheese” for business.
How’s that workin’ out for the state?
I can’t blame them with all the judgmental heathens out there.
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Like Obama?
“There is nothing prohibiting a church from holding a wedding and marrying two people.”
It does happen, and more often than you think. But…
Until newspapers start printing our engagement and wedding announcements, you likely wont hear about it.
And why would we publicize our weddings anyway? So someone can spray paint our houses and cars? So the bigots can picket our weddings? So the hooded cross burners and ferret us out?
Hell, you read here. Just listen to the asshats who are obsessed with our marriages.
Would you want THEM to know the date and time and place and where you will reside after the lovely honeymoon?
heheh. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.
Yeah. Sure. You betchya.
Yea like Obama You usually come up with much better than that ANTI.
Jesus WEPT!
In case no one remembers, IN KANSAS, it is STILL LEGAL to fire someone for being gay.
So even if the newspaper were to print our marriage announcements, do you think it’s worth risking a good job? Violence? Loss of property?
Uh… no. Not for most people.
Unless you are like me and have nothing to lose :)
DavosRancheros
Posted December 3, 2008 at 2:58 pm | Permalink
Yea like Obama You usually come up with much better than that ANTI.
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Sorry, it’s kinda slow today. I am not feeling very inspired….I will try harder next time.
I have a few friends than are ‘in the closet’ professionally…cuz they feel they have to. Sucks.
“Yes, there are, unfortunately, safety concerns. But I would gladly attend strangers’ weddings, just on general principle. A good crowd could make the difference.”
True enough Rage.
A more potent gesture is to stop attending ALL weddings until ALL weddings carry the same rights and benefits of civil law.
Yeah, it might hurt someone’s feelings. But the struggle for civil righs is never exactly won by being polite.
And declining the invitation and while still sending a nice gift (like a subscription to The Advocate) will damn sure make the point.
‘Sorry, it’s kinda slow today. I am not feeling very inspired….I will try harder next time.’
Should I bring up that we should put the whitetail deer on the endanger species list? I kid, I kid!
Should I bring up that we should put the whitetail deer on the endanger species list? I kid, I kid!
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I assume you have great auto insurance. ;)
I assume you have great auto insurance. ;)
Just an old truck…lol…no full coverage here!
weld 5 feet of oilfield pipe to the front like a push bumper and no worries
Should I bring up that we should put the whitetail deer on the endanger species list? I kid, I kid!
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Actually I figure I do far more for the deer population than the PETA types.
I always monitor the herds I hunt(when I can). Plant food plots and clean up old barbed wire and things that could injure deer. I keep tabs on predators during births in the herds.
Also I’m not a ‘trophy’ hunter. I usually pick the older or ‘less perfect’ deer out of the heard. A nice trophy head on my wall doesn’t do much for me. I enjoy the outdoors and the meat in my freezer.
There ya go…some 5 inch casing and one of those whistle things on the hood. Safe ridin’!
weld 5 feet of oilfield pipe to the front like a push bumper and no worries
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I have been thinking of implementing that idea on Kellogg.
That is a great attitute IMO ANTI. I am not much for trophy hunting either.
I’ve hunted with to many ‘big trophy’ guys. That is basically why I haven’t launched a guide service. The ‘big trophy guys’ pay good but they are generally assholes to be around (and dangerous).
Obama represents intelligence. Young people are drawn to intelligent people. Older people are drawn to nostalgia.
Ralphie, get the hell off of my lawn!!
That is a great attitute IMO ANTI.
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Thank you.
Ralphie,
Ignore the grumpy old man! Walk where you choose.
Yes, Obama is intelligent and articulate and most of us (young and old) were ready for both after these miserable years of bush.
And, you know what I like MOST about Sarah Palin?
The Republican Party seems to be divided in their support of her and the Democratic Party seems to be united in their opposition. ;-)
I like it when the Republican Party is divided — great things happen!
Hi Linda! :)
I’m walking all over your grass! Even the newly planted stuff that you had roped off. nah, nah, na, nah, nah… ;-)
lindainks55
Posted December 3, 2008 at 3:34 pm | Permalink
I’m walking all over your grass! Even the newly planted stuff that you had roped off. nah, nah, na, nah, nah… ;-)
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Don’t make me go get Ole’ Hickory, Linda!
Thanks for the feedback, KFG.
Federal employment non-discrimination legislation is on the agenda, but it will take more than gay people making noise to get it passed. The rest of us need to make noise too, and big-time noise.
Notwithstanding the hateful rantings of Values Boy, it is a civil-rights movement, and the risks associated are so similar to the last civil-rights movement, it requires willful blindness not to see that.
And declining the invitation and while still sending a nice gift (like a subscription to The Advocate) will damn sure make the point.
You know, I never liked weddings anyway!
ksfarmgrrl whinned.
““I don’t think the average American would like life in a purely free market”
I agree. It would be brutal on a scale most people cant imagine.
But I notice that as soon as they are confronted with the “all or nothing” scenario…
They start crawfishin’ as fast as they can.They will NEVER give up their devotion to their corporate and/or wealthy masters.
Hell, they have a one in one billion chance of being one!”
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For one thing, nobody is advocating an “all or nothing scenario” on the right. After reading your post on jobs, and almost sounding like a libertarian like myself, I don’t see why you buy the Democrat form of socialism.
It seems your “wealthy masters” now own the Democrats. According to CNNMoney.com, Wall Street securities and investment firms gave over $35 million to Democratic candidates this election cycle. And the amount they gave to the Obama campaign was nearly five times the amount they gave to McCain. The 73% of house Democrats supported the bailout compared to only 48% of Republicans. Obama did as well. The only opposition came from the conservatives and libertarians.
“Won’t(will) get fooled again!”
“According to CNNMoney.com, Wall Street securities and investment firms gave over $35 million to Democratic candidates this election cycle”
Is that $35M out of $36M given to Democratic candidates by all donors (which would give them considerable power)
or
$35M out of $3.5b given to Democratic candidates by all donors (which would be a drop in the bucket)?
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Rage
Posted December 3, 2008 at 3:47 pm | Permalink
“Thanks for the feedback, KFG.
Federal employment non-discrimination legislation is on the agenda, but it will take more than gay people making noise to get it passed. The rest of us need to make noise too, and big-time noise.”
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Many people “did make noise” when they voted. The Afro-Americans did overwhelmingly.
“Another thread ruined by “I’m gay and can’t get my way” agenda.”
Christian Morgan is a genocidal racist who wants the mangling, dismembering, poisoning, and beheading of black babies to continue at 3 times the rate of others in Kansas abortion mills.
Brian,
Maybe you should have your eyes checked. You missed the part about 5 times as much. The $35m figure is second only to trial lawyers.
Do your own research and try to keep it in context.
Many people “did make noise” when they voted. The Afro-Americans did overwhelmingly.
I’m well of this disturbing bigotry in many parts of the African-American Christian community. The Puritans who came to America for religious freedom wasted no time in enforcing their own religious bigotry, either.
Hypocrisy has no sex, color, or previous condition of servitude.
donndublin,
My eyes are fine, thanks. Your statement “And the amount they gave to the Obama campaign was nearly five times the amount they gave to McCain” does not address my question about what percentage of the Democrats total receipts was the $35m.
If you are going to post something as a fact, you should put it in context…unless you are trying to selectively cherry pick facts to spin the data. If that is what you are doing, carry on, you are doing an acceptable job at it.
Does this sound familiar?
“That’s right. According to CNNMoney.com, Wall Street securities and investment firms gave over $35 million to Democratic candidates this election cycle. And the amount they gave to the Obama campaign was nearly five times the amount they gave to McCain.
If you’ve been wondering why the financial industry is in meltdown — and taking your 401(k) or investment portfolio down with it — now you know. ”
It is from an article by Ann Coulter posted at
http://www.desertconservative.com/2008/11/13/obama-and-his-cronies/
No wonder you can’t discus the source of your facts… they are not facts! You did not even research them, you plagiarized most of your post!
LMAO
Ha. A plagiarist and a nitwit
“almost sounding like a libertarian like myself, I don’t see why you buy the Democrat form of socialism.”
I am, thankfully, NOTHING like you. I share nothing with eeeeeevil bigots like you. And I dont drink. Unlike your dumbass.
Democrat form of socialism?
Jesus WEPT. I’m neither a democrat nor a socialist. Not that being a socialist is a bad thing.
But then, you knew that.
Do try to keep up.
Somebody opened the door to the troll bin.
Since the last round of banning, they seem to have mulitplied. Just because they can is my guess.
Phcuk off.
Better yet, kill yourself and make this world a better place!
It’s too bad (again) that okobserver is gone. The new poster ‘donndublin’ and she use the same sources in much the same way. Just as when ksgrm disappeared and I knew she and okobserver would have been fast friends, I think the same relationship could bloom between okobserver and donndublin.
lindainks55
Posted December 3, 2008 at 5:51 pm
that is so funny, they would probably have gotten along quite well indeed
Yeah Linda. I noticed the same “things we hold dear” usage. I said the other day I think she is the same TM and Rockl with a hubby named DON that posted before you were here.
She was a hateful biotch too.
Some things never change. She’s one of terry fox’s head cases. In fact, she said she was going to quit posting because the congregation asked her to do so.
go figure….
“ksfarmgrrl
Posted December 3, 2008 at 5:54 pm | Permalink
Yeah Linda. I noticed the same “things we hold dear” usage. I said the other day I think she is the same TM and Rockl with a hubby named DON that posted before you were here.
She was a hateful biotch too.
Some things never change. She’s one of terry fox’s head cases. In fact, she said she was going to quit posting because the congregation asked her to do so.
go figure….”
I hope she is not going behind the congregation’s back and posting using another name…
That would be so scandelous if they found out…
“I hope she is not going behind the congregation’s back and posting using another name…
That would be so scandelous if they found out…”
Oh pul-EEEZE!
They asked her to stop posting about the terry fox scandal.
I’m sure they support her gay hating one hundred percent. Hell, they probably pay her to do it!
And did I mention that “rockl” and “don” owned a business? A heating and air conditioning business iirc.
She, and probably her bastard husband, appear regularly under new nics.
It wouldnt surprise me if bigotbawks was her so called husband.
“The new poster ‘donndublin’ and she use the same sources in much the same way. ”
They ALSO seem to share easy spelling errors like “alter” for “altar”.
Strongly opinionated, but not very bright. And given also to juvenile jabs like…
“Don’t tell them to raise their hands because their pits are just as aromatic as their asses.”
Two peas in a pod. Or two nics for one cranky old lady.
Heheeh. HAHAHAHAHAH
you dont think it’s really Barbara Etal, do ya?
hee hee hee heeeeeeee…..
Maybe she’ll set [sic] herself down for a visit someday.
or,
something equally telling.
etal is a strange last name… ;-)
Christian Morgan: You insult the youth of Kansas
HEY PUKES,
Brian, 2 out of 8 sentences is hardly most of the post. Facts are facts no matter where they come from.
What do you use as a source NAMBLA?
Most of your posts are still copy and paste.
ksfarmgrrl whined.
“Somebody opened the door to the troll bin.
Since the last round of banning, they seem to have mulitplied. Just because they can is my guess.
Phcuk off.
Better yet, kill yourself and make this world a better place!”
It sounds like you’ve been there a few times.
You fools can keep guessing who I am. Do you always gang up on someone who disagrees with your ultra extreme leftist tripe? You’re like cockroaches that stay out of the light for fear you will be exposed for the scum suckers you are.
You call me a bigot without knowing who I am or where I’ve been. You only know I don’t agree with you. But yet I’ve been called a number of expletives.
The first reply to my first post was; “donndublin you are an effin’ idiot”. Remember that Brian?
Ksfarmgrrl wants her civil rights but insults my personal beliefs and wishes me dead or in hell. Well girl, I hope you live long enough to regret the hate you spew in this public forum. At least I can sleep at night. I don’t how you do
“You fools can keep guessing who I am. ”
Well, YOU invited that, didn’t you?
I mean, you obviously are not new.
Going back to its beginning, this forum has issues with people who switch their nics. It speaks to a posters lack of credibility.
donndublin,
in case you forgot your first post began like this:
“donndublin
Posted November 24, 2008 at 7:56 pm | Permalink
Hey BJ & Monkey,
You guys must be Charlie or VC. What did you do stow away on a helicopter back to the States? Are you coming here to assist Comrade Ayers in making nail bombs?
You should go back to your holes in jungles of The Peoples Republic of Vietnam and have your Socialism”
Clearly you deserved the response i gave you.
Each of your subsequent posts amusingly supports my assertion that you are “the ‘Christian’ with the WWJD and ichthys stickers on his car who tailgates you aggressively, then zooms around, gives you the finger, then cuts in front of your car without signaling and drives 5 under the speed limit while cussing and flipping you off again.”
Gosh Brian, that driver passed me the other day on West Street!!
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!!
blessings on Advent!!
so mote it be!!
For the record, I SAW people eating at McDonald’s in France. They even have outdoor seating.
I didn’t EAT there myself.
I did however go the Louvre and saw the Mona Lisa and the Winged Nike. Also went to the “Modern” museum where the Impressionists are displayed.
Also took a boat trip down the Seine, went to the Notre Dame, and the big cathedral in Montemart, also the Arc d’ Triomphe.
Ate French food, Algerian food, and Chinese food in Paris.
No McDonald’s though . . .
I looked at KIA’s BS source.
Here’s what it said:
“Those [tax] reductions have raised federal tax receipts by $785 billion, the largest four-year revenue increase in U.S. history. In fiscal 2007, which ended last month, the government took in 6.7% more tax revenues than in 2006.”
The thing is those figures don’t account for population growth and routine economic growth.
So, yeah, if gathering the same amount of taxes as we did EIGHT YEARS previously under Clinton is “the largest tax revenue increase in history,” then the CONs are right.
“Federal employment non-discrimination legislation is on the agenda, but it will take more than gay people making noise to get it passed. The rest of us need to make noise too, and big-time noise.”
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Many people “did make noise” when they voted. The Afro-Americans did overwhelmingly.
“Another thread ruined by “I’m gay and can’t get my way” agenda.”
Let’s note for a moment that firing people for daring to publicly “come out” has nothing to do with getting married, let alone the marriage amendment.
If the quoted comments above are not the product of a shamelessly evil bigot, then the word no longer has any meaning.
“So, yeah, if gathering the same amount of taxes as we did EIGHT YEARS previously under Clinton is “the largest tax revenue increase in history,” then the CONs are right.” — cptn.
They’re not exactly telling the truth about that, Captain. It was several years before tax revenues increased to the point they were under the Clinton administration. In addition, the tax revenue gains claimed by the Republicans included capitol gains taxes that were the result of the housing boom and stock market increases. You can see where that led. Wait until the capitol losses come rolling in for fiscal 2008, and see how much revenue has grown under Bush policies.
Must every single thing the Pukes believe be a lie?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2009/pdf/hist.pdf
The one and only source on federal budget matters. I’ve had eight years of arguments with Pukes who claim that what’s in it isn’t in it. Be my guest.
HEHEHEHEHEHEH!
Why thank you for inquiring about my sleep.
I sleep just fine after my girlfriend and I…
Uh, well, nevermind.
Let’s just say I dont need any sleeping pills.
And you?
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