Vice President Dick Cheney is unapologetic about disastrous and, in the case of torturing detainees, potentially criminal actions of the Bush administration. But then again, that’s what we’ve come to expect.
In recent interviews Cheney offered no regrets about warrantless wiretapping, torturing or his expansive view of presidential power — essentially, that a president can do whatever he wants during wartime. Cheney also still backs former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and suggested that the administration would have gone to war with Iraq even if it had known that Iraq didn’t have weapons of mass destruction. Cheney also isn’t sorry or embarrassed about telling Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., to go “bleep” himself. “I thought he merited it at the time,” he told Fox News Sunday.
Meanwhile, the latest FOX News poll shows Cheney with his lowest approval rating yet — 29 percent — and a new CNN poll found that 23 percent of those surveyed think Cheney is the worst vice president of all time.
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This is good news. It should preclude any presidential pardon so hopefully then there can be prosecutions. As far as I’m concerned he should be turned over to the Hague.
Who care’s?
I care. The evil, corruption of power and abuse of the Constitution of the United States of America perpetrated by this man must never be allowed in the future! Plus, criminals shouldn’t be allowed to go free.
Your squeaking rings hollow. If Cheney did what you say, why was nothing done about it?
“If Cheney did what you say, why was nothing done about it?”
Perhaps because nobody has the power to do so?
“Perhaps because nobody has the power to do so?”
Wrong. Strike one.
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fleettwood
Posted December 23, 2008 at 2:16 pm | Permalink
Your squeaking rings hollow. If Cheney did what you say, why was nothing done about it?
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There are lawsuits out there, such as his attempts to hide all his emails, the FFA’s surveillance lawsuit. I would imagine if criminal charges are filled, it will be after he leaves office. I, for one, really don’t want that to happen as we don’t need the Bush/Cheney interference during the Obama presidency. While I think the sob should go down, it won’t serve this country to do so.
“I, for one, really don’t want that to happen…”
Then, the very serious charges must be false.
Strike two.
“fleettwood
Posted December 23, 2008 at 3:02 pm | Permalink
“Perhaps because nobody has the power to do so?”
Wrong. Strike one.”
Nope – statement is absoluely correct. As noted, lawsuits have been brought. However, with our court system they get nowhere. I suppose an indictment could be sought but with (a) a Republic AG and (b) enough Republics in the Senate to block anything what good would it do?
So – just who DOES have the power to do anything?
“I suppose an indictment could be sought but with (a) a Republic AG and (b) enough Republics in the Senate to block anything what good would it do?”
What good would it do? “Trying is the first step to failure”, Homer Simpson.
And there are times when tilting at windmills just doesn’t make sense.
Now I disagree with JMW – once we get an AG in there I would like to see prosecutions.
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fleettwood
Posted December 23, 2008 at 3:27 pm | Permalink
“I, for one, really don’t want that to happen…”
Then, the very serious charges must be false.
Strike two.
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You really are an idiot . . . strike three!
“You really are an idiot . . . strike three!”
If the charges are true, any good American would demand he pay.
Now I disagree with JMW – once we get an AG in there I would like to see prosecutions.
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You guys read too much of what you write. Prosecutions for what? Failure to sensitively interpret statutes? For caring too darn much about America’s security? Koran abuse? What?
You forget you guys started this garbage for political purposes. Then you started to believe it.
Is that warrantless wiretapping the same Patriot Act that Biden and Obama both voted for in 2006?
Cheny is truly an American hero! All the liberal wienies have is impotent whining.
Thank God we had him as Vice President the last eight years!
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Mr_Kia
Posted December 23, 2008 at 4:37 pm | Permalink
Is that warrantless wiretapping the same Patriot Act that Biden and Obama both voted for in 2006?
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You got it! It’s the same warrantless wiretapping that the ‘Chosen One’ has promised to continue!
Fleetwood the sad truth is that nothing will be done because the American physic could not stand it.
We do just not want to be that honest about what happen, the same reason President Ford gave for pardoning President Nixon. Such things are not suppose to happen in the United States in a third world country yes. In a foreign country that is not a democracy yes but not here in the land of the free and the home of the brave. It is just un-American what they have done and we need to believe that someone would have stopped them. But they did not and it is easier to simple let the crimes slide and leave it to an eternal arguing but no charges. WE know the truth and so does the world, but we can live with the fact that everyone knows wrongs were commit. But without the charges and trials it would remain deniable.
As much as it is self-denial we can live with the facade that the worst nightmare for the U.S. has happened.
A delusional President along with a small group of equally delusional ideologists took over the Government and took this country to war for no other reason than their personal delusions. And we stood idle and did nothing to stop it. To do otherwise is to admit that those whom attacked and killed the innocent were allowed to go unpunished. In favor of trying to impose a delusional concept of reshaping the Middle East by force. So delusional that it never took into account that the region would fight us and the world would than side with the middle east. Not greet our troops with flowers and proclaim them liberators. How delusional is Cheney? He answered that question with him saying that the fact would not matter we would still have invaded Iraq! To the question of why should we invade Iraq instead of continuing to go after the killers of over 3 thousand innocents?
The world would be a lot simpler if we could hunt down the bad guys, slit their throats and live safely ever after like a Tom Clancy novel.
But it’s not.
OK so the question is than who is the bad guys?
The ones who do something to you or the ones whom might kind-of- sort-of if they could one day but can not in the near future? Whom is it that it is more important to hunt down?
Give him to the world court.
I hope they sentence him to death.
I guarantee if any other country brought their troops to America, parked their tanks in front of our houses on our streets, knocked down doors of innocent citizens, etc., etc., etc., we would all protect our homes and our families in any and every way possible. That other country would call us the bad guys.
I do recall that Iraq prior to and during the Gulf War, invaded Kuwait, attack Saudi Arabia and Israel, etc.
They also had the majority of the world against them.
Countries like China, Russia, France and Germany had a vested interest in Iraq after the first Gulf war, by illegally supplying Iraq with arms and supplies necessary to start another war.
What part of violated dozens of U.N. Sanctions do the Libs not understand?
Oh yeah, and firing missiles at our aircraft every other day will certainly start a war as well.
panty waists, don’t know how to stand up to a bully.
How many Canadians, Mexicans and other countries from our region of the world would be coming in to fight do you think Linda?
It will be interesting to watch the lib’s philosophy on presidential powers shift in the months ahead when Obama uses what Cheney and Bush ahve built over the past eight years to further the Democrat’s agenda. Obama’s shift in philosophy is already emerging. Cheney and Bush were only seeking to restore to the Presidency what the Congress has torn away over the past 60 years. It’s audacious of 23% of the people say they believe that Cheney was the worst president in history. Unless they’re 250 years old they have no experiential reference to support that belief. (53% of the population believes that the planet has been visted by space aliens, too.)
“Oh yeah, and firing missiles at our aircraft every other day will certainly start a war as well.”
You seriously exaggerate the frequency of those missile attacks. Where were those aircraft flying? I think Saddam probably thought a little less of U.N. sanctions than you do.
If Cheney is not pardoned, which I don’t think he will be, I predict he will be prosecuted for a number of crimes. It will be required for the healing of our nation. Surely, since Cheny is such a great American, and selfless patriot, he won’t mind.
I don’t understand your question, Mr_Kia? Do you mean as allies to the invading country? Do you mean only those who share our borders might unload their soldiers and tanks? Sorry, can’t discern the question so am unable to answer.
Did you fail to understand that WE (AMERICA!) went to Iraq uninvited and invaded their country, bombed their buildings, kileed their people, disrupted the lives of average everyday Iraquis, decided without input from them their way of life wasn’t right, wasn’t good, wasn’t acceptable — America decided, not the Iraqi people.
Being bush means never having to admit to a mistake!
Now, there’s a pair to draw to.
“The evil, corruption of power and abuse of the Constitution of the United States of America perpetrated by this man must never be allowed in the future!”
That’s what folks said about nixon too. And lo, it didnt even take thirty years for shrub to go even farther than nixon, with the old nixon crew back in the white house.
I think shrub will pardon him and others.
Remember his daddy pardoning all the iran contra guys? Shrub will just call uncle jim baker to find out what to do.
“panty waists, don’t know how to stand up to a bully.”
Name the time and place Reg and I’ll be there.
Now who’s the panty waist? Coward.
I think shrub will pardon him and others.
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Pardon him? Are you freakin’ serious! He’s not charged with anything and he won’t be. You people have been lying to each other so long you’re starting to believe your own bullshit.
In the words of VP Cheney…
“Fuck you” HLP.
Whoa!
And merry Christmas to you mxyzptk!
Everyone on this BLOG that cares knows who I am. Most know where I live.
Hide behind your nic-with-no-vowels and cuss me if you want, it proves you are a chicken shit.
You people have been lying to each other so long you’re starting to believe your own bullshit.
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We have a winner! Step right up you magnificent bastard! You have won the large stuffed bear!
Hank, you are 100% right on.
Merry Christmas, BTW. Looks like we may have decent weather.
Sorry, this blog reminds me of a carnival slash freak show.
That bastard said in an interview recently that (in so many words), “the president is ruler of the world and if you don’t like it, well he carries “The Football” around with him. And he can kill the World without talking to anyone about it first”.
What a piece of shit.
Just like that effeminate “tough guy” Mukasey likes to say that the 4th Amendment says nothing about “Probable Cause”.
If (and I know he won’t) Obama doesn’t rescind these King-like powers that Bushco bestowed upon themselves, folk’s, we’re in BIG fugging trouble. And that means you lefty’s too.
Better be waking up soon.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/23/madoff.investor.suicide/index.html
Amn, there are some sad people out there huh?
ANTI Posted December 23, 2008 at 8:28 pm
“Sorry, this blog reminds me of a carnival slash freak show.”
ANTI, they have no idea what is going on, they live in a world of their own contorted imagination.
Hopefully Brownlee is the next one out on the street from the Eagle.
We lost 3000 people on 9/11, and not a single terrorist attack here since, yet these ingrates criticize those responsible for that success.
“Hopefully Brownlee is the next one out on the street from the Eagle.
“We lost 3000 people on 9/11, and not a single terrorist attack here since, yet these ingrates criticize those responsible for that success.”
This is such an incredibly stupid post, it is difficult to know how to respond to it. Hopefully, Boxlock is kicked to the curb during our economic brun down, and we won’t have to consider his bullshit… which is a complete waste of time.
Hopefully Brownlee is the next one out on the street from the Eagle.
My, what a Christian sentiment, troll.
Enjoy the snack.
In the words of VP Cheney…
“Fuck you” HLP.
Actually, it was “Go fuck yourself.”
Well, what can one expect from the CEO or the Bush Administration?
The above should read OF the Bush Administration, of course.
lindainks55
Posted December 23, 2008 at 6:46 pm | Permalink
I don’t understand your question, Mr_Kia? Do you mean as allies to the invading country? Do you mean only those who share our borders might unload their soldiers and tanks? Sorry, can’t discern the question so am unable to answer.
Did you fail to understand that WE (AMERICA!) went to Iraq uninvited and invaded their country, bombed their buildings, kileed their people, disrupted the lives of average everyday Iraquis, decided without input from them their way of life wasn’t right, wasn’t good, wasn’t acceptable — America decided, not the Iraqi people.
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Good morning and Merry Christmas to you Linda –
I am referencing the nature of the enemy in Iraq which is the insurgency.
The insurgency is made up of enemy combatants from no less than 5 nations in the region just off the top of my head.
This is a regional war against a belief system.
I felt your OP made the insurgency sound like a bunch of Iraqi Ma and Pa Kettle’s fighting off the evil Americans.
Ingrates?
Am I grateful to Bushco for not staging anymore terror attacks this year in America? Yes. But they did do a bang up job in Mumbai (along with Israel’s and Britain’s help, of course).
Any pardon Bush could lay on him would only be valid in the USofA. It don’t cut no ice with the World Court.
During the Inauguration, put him on one of those unmarked Gulfstreams the CIA leases, strap a parachute and stat line on him and pitch him out the door when they reach The Hague. They’ll know what to do from there!
http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/fairenough/latimesA98.html
Al Qaeda in Iraq and its affiliate groups number anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 individuals, the senior U.S. military officer said. Iraqis make up the majority of members, facilitating attacks, indoctrinating, fighting, but generally not blowing themselves up. Iraqis account for roughly 10% of suicide bombers, according to the U.S. military.
Speaking of pardons, guess bush issued one a day or two ago, and revoked it today after the news came out that the pardonee had been spreading money around to the RNC (28k, and about 5 k to mccain and coleman campaign) also he was involved with lying about the income of prospective home buyers to hud so he could get low income people into houses they couldn’t afford, with rates they didn’t understand.