Time magazine included John McCain’s “The fundamentals of the economy are strong” among its Top 10 Unfortunate Political One-Liners. The rest: Richard Nixon’s “I am not a crook” (1973). Bill Clinton’s “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” (1998). George H.W. Bush’s “Read my lips: no new taxes” (1988). Jimmy Carter’s “I’ve looked on a lot of women with lust. I’ve committed adultery in my heart many times” (1976). Rep. Mark Foley’s “It’s vile. It’s more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction” (1998, about Clinton). Lyndon Johnson’s “We still seek no wider war” (1964, after the Gulf of Tonkin incident). Clinton’s “That depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is” (1998). Herbert Hoover’s “The fundamental business of the country, that is, production and distribution of commodities, is on a sound and prosperous basis” (1929). Nixon’s “You know, I always wondered about that taping equipment but I’m damn glad we have it, aren’t you?” (1973).
-
Registered?
Commenting on WE Blog now requires you to be a Kansas.com member. Use the links above to register, if you haven't already, or to log in. -
Contact us
-
Follow us
Daily Archives
-
Recent Comments
- satatom on Open thread 7/4
- Raptor on Open thread 7/4
- Freebird1971 on Open thread 7/4
- Freebird1971 on Open thread 7/4
- Raptor on Open thread 7/4
- Freebird1971 on Open thread 7/4
- Raptor on Open thread 7/4
- Freebird1971 on Open thread 7/4
- Heckler on Open thread 7/4
- BlueJay on Open thread 7/4
126 Comments
One of my personal favorites was back in the late eighties when a Senator made the statement:
“The reason so many of us is caught in illegal and amoral actions are that we are not paid enough.”.
In defense of raising the pay for Congressman and Senators. It reminded me of the answer a small time burglar gave me to my question of how to reduces crime.
“If you want me to quit doing crime, pay me not to steal.”.
And former Wichita Mayor, Bob Knight, saying: “OK boys, tear out those railroad tracks running from downtown Wichita across the Arkansas River to downtown Hutchinson. Railroads are dead. We’ll never need them again!”
“Yesterday, you made note of my — the lack of my talent when it came to dancing. But nevertheless, I want you to know I danced with joy. And no question Liberia has gone through very difficult times.” –George W. Bush, speaking with the president of Liberia, Washington, D.C., Oct. 22, 2008
“I want to share with you an interesting program — for two reasons, one, it’s interesting, and two, my wife thought of it — or has actually been involved with it; she didn’t think of it. But she thought of it for this speech.” –George W. Bush, discussing a company that improves access to clean water in Africa, Washington D.C., Oct. 21, 2008
“This thaw — took a while to thaw, it’s going to take a while to unthaw.” –George W. Bush, on liquidity in the markets, Alexandria, La., Oct. 20, 2008
“I didn’t grow up in the ocean — as a matter of fact — near the ocean — I grew up in the desert. Therefore, it was a pleasant contrast to see the ocean. And I particularly like it when I’m fishing.” –George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 26, 2008
“Anyone engaging in illegal financial transactions will be caught and persecuted.” –George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2008
“We’re fixing to go down to Galveston and obviously are going to see a devastated part of this fantastic state.” –George W. Bush, Houston, Sept. 16, 2008
“The people in Louisiana must know that all across our country there’s a lot of prayer — prayer for those whose lives have been turned upside down. And I’m one of them.” –George W. Bush, Baton Rouge, La., Sept. 3, 2008
“First of all, I don’t see America having problems.” –George W. Bush, interview with Bob Costas at the 2008 Olympics, Beijing, China, Aug. 10, 2008
“I’m coming as the president of a friend, and I’m coming as a sportsman.” –George W. Bush, on his trip to the Olympics in China, Washington, D.C., July 30, 2008
“There’s no question about it. Wall Street got drunk — that’s one of the reasons I asked you to turn off the TV cameras — it got drunk and now it’s got a hangover. The question is how long will it sober up and not try to do all these fancy financial instruments.” –George W. Bush, speaking at a private fundraiser, Houston, Texas, July 18, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“I think it was in the Rose Garden where I issued this brilliant statement: If I had a magic wand — but the president doesn’t have a magic wand. You just can’t say, ‘low gas.’” –George W. Bush, Washington D.C., July 15, 2008
“And they have no disregard for human life.” –George W. Bush, on the brutality of Afghan fighters, Washington, D.C., July 15, 2008
“The economy is growing, productivity is high, trade is up, people are working. It’s not as good as we’d like, but — and to the extent that we find weakness, we’ll move.” –George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 15, 2008
“Goodbye from the world’s biggest polluter.” –George W. Bush, in parting words to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy at his final G-8 Summit, punching the air and grinning widely as the two leaders looked on in shock, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008
“Amigo! Amigo!” –George W. Bush, calling out to Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi in Spanish at the G-8 Summit, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008
“Throughout our history, the words of the Declaration have inspired immigrants from around the world to set sail to our shores. These immigrants have helped transform 13 small colonies into a great and growing nation of more than 300 people.” –George W. Bush, Charlottesville, Va., July 4, 2008
“Should the Iranian regime-do they have the sovereign right to have civilian nuclear power? So, like, if I were you, that’s what I’d ask me. And the answer is, yes, they do.” –George W. Bush, talking to reporters in Washington, D.C., July 2, 2008
Sara Palin
“We realize that more and more Americans are starting to see the light there and understand the contrast. And we talk a lot about, OK, we’re confident that we’re going to win on Tuesday, so from there, the first 100 days, how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars?” –Sarah Palin, suggesting we are at war with Iran, FOX News interview, Nov. 1, 2008
“If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations then I don’t know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media.” –Sarah Palin, getting First Amendment rights backwards while suggesting that criticism of her is unconstitutional, radio interview with WMAL-AM, Oct. 31, 2008
“Absolutely not. I think that, if I were to give up and wave a white flag of surrender against some of the political shots that we’ve taken, that … that would … bring this whole … I’m not doing this for naught.” –Sarah Palin, asked about her plans for 2012 and whether she would disappear from the national political scene if she loses, ABC News interview, Oct. 29, 2008
“And Alaska — we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs. … It’s to maximize benefits for Alaskans, not an individual company, not some multinational somewhere, but for Alaskans.” –Sarah Palin, explaining the windfall profits tax that she imposed on the oil industry in Alaska as a mechanism for ensuring that Alaskans “share in the wealth” generated by oil companies, New Yorker interview, Sept. 2008
“John McCain and I, and our camps, are working together to get John McCain elected.” –Sarah Palin, denying reports that she is “going rogue” while suggesting there are separate Palin and McCain camps, Oct. 27, 2008
“I don’t know if you’re going to use the word ‘terrorist’ there.” –Sarah Palin, asked if people who bomb abortion clinics are terrorists, NBC News interview, Oct. 23, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“[T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.” –Sarah Palin, getting the vice president’s constitutional role wrong after being asked by a third grader what the vice president does, interview with NBC affiliate KUSA in Colorado, Oct. 21, 2008
“We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. …We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation.” –Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in Greensoboro, N.C., Oct. 16, 2008
“I like being here because it seems like here and in our last rally too — other parts around this great Northwest — here in New Hampshire you just get it.” –Sarah Palin, Laconia, New Hampshire, Oct. 15, 2008
“I would hope at least that those protesters have the courage and the honor of thanking our veterans for giving them the right to protest!” –Sarah Palin, confusing supporters at a campaign rally who had shouted “We can’t hear you!” and “Louder!”, Richmond, Va., Oct. 13, 2008
“I’m very, very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing … any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that.” –Sarah Palin, after an Alaska legislative report found she had broken the state’s ethics law and abused her power in the Troopergate scandal, conference call with Alaska reporters, Oct. 12, 2008
“They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan.” –Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Oct. 5, 2008
“There’s a place in Hell reserved for women who don’t support other women.” –Sarah Palin, misquoting former Secretary of State Madeline Albright, who said women should “help” other women,” Carson, Caliif., Oct. 4, 2008
“I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I’m going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also.” –Sarah Palin, on not answering the questions in the vice presidential debate, St. Louis, Missouri, Oct. 2, 2008
“All of ‘em, any of ‘em that have been in front of me over all these years.” –Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you.” –Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years in the Senate, CBS News interview, Sept. 24, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“I’m the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t.’” –Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor’s office without approval of the city council
John McCain
“Do we share a common philosophy of the Republican Party? Of course.” –on President Bush, “Meet the Pres Interview,” Oct. 27, 2008
“She needed the clothes.” –explaining to reporters why the RNC spent $150,000 on clothes and accessories for Sarah Palin and her family, Florida, Oct. 23, 2008
“I think she’s most qualified of any that has run recently for vice president, tell you the truth.” –on Sarah Palin, interview with Don Imus, Oct. 22, 2008
“I might have to rely on a vice president that I select’ for expertise on economic issues.” –GOP debate, Nov. 28, 2007
“Rates were c*nt in the Bush years.” –committing a freudian slip while campaigning in Manchester, NH, Oct. 22, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“You know, I think you may have noticed that Senator Obama’s supporters have been saying some pretty nasty things about Western Pennsylvania lately. And you know, I couldn’t agree with them more. I couldn’t disagree with you. I couldn’t agree with you more than the fact that Western Pennsylvania is the most patriotic, most god-loving, most, most patriotic part of America, and this is a great part of the country.” –Moon Township, Penn., Oct. 21, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“He’s (for) health for the mother. You know, that’s been stretched by the pro-abortion movement in America to mean almost anything. That’s the extreme pro-abortion position, quote, ‘health.’” –mocking Obama’s support for protection of a mother’s health in abortion decisions, presidential debate, Long Island, New York, Oct. 15, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.” –on Barack Obama and the state of the presidential campaign, Virginia Beach, Virginia, Oct. 13, 2008
“Across this country this is the agenda I have set before my fellow prisoners. And the same standards of clarity and candor must now be applied to my opponent.” –Bethlehem, Penn., Oct. 8, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“There was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney. You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one.” –referring to Barack Obama during the second presidential debate, Nashville, Tenn., Oct. 7, 2008 (Watch video)
“Not you, Tom.” –to debate moderator Tom Brokaw, after being asked who he might name as Treasury Secretary in his administration, Nashville, Tenn., Oct. 7, 2008
“I have not had a chance to see it in writing, so I have to examine it.’” –on the Bush administration’s Wall Street bailout plan, which was a three-page document that McCain said he received the day before, interview with WKYC in Cleveland, Sept. 23, 2008
“Sure. Technically, I don’t know.” –asked if the U.S. is in a recession, “60 Minutes” interview, Sept. 21, 2008
“The chairman of the SEC serves at the appointment of the president and, in my view, has betrayed the public’s trust. If I were president today, I would fire him.” –apparently unaware of the fact that the SEC chairman, as a commissioner of an independent regulatory commission, cannot be removed by the president, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sept. 18, 2008
“Honestly, I have to analyze our relationships, situations and priorities, but I can assure you that I will establish closer relationships with our friends, and I will stand up to those who want to harm the United States. … I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us and standing up to those who are not. And that’s judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America and the entire region.” –after being asked if he would invite Spanish President Jose Rodriguez Louis Zapatero to the White House, casting an ally of the U.S. as a potential enemy while simultaneously confusing Spain for a Latin American country, interview with Radio Caracol Miami, Sept. 17, 2008
“I also know, if I might remind you, that she is commander of the Alaska National Guard. In fact, you may know that on Sept. 11 a large contingent of the Alaska Guard deployed to Iraq and her son happened to be one of them. So I think she understands our national security challenges.” –touting Sarah Palin’s foreign policy credentials by confusing the Alaska National Guard with the U.S. Army, where Palin’s son is currently serving, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Sept. 17, 2008
“I understand the economy. I was chairman of the Commerce Committee that oversights every part of our economy.” –ignoring the fact that it is actually the Senate Banking Committee which is responsible for credit, financial services, and housing — the very areas currently in crisis, CNBC interview, Sept. 16, 2008
“Our economy, I think, is still — the fundamentals of our economy are strong.” –Jacksonville, Fla., Sept. 15, 2008
“Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.” –in the Sept./Oct. issue of Contingencies
“[Sarah Palin] knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America. … And, uh, she also happens to represent, be governor of a state that’s right next to Russia.” –after being asked about Sarah Palin’s foreign policy experience, interview with WCSH-6, Portland, OR, Sept. 12, 2008
“It’s easy for me to go to Washington and, frankly, be somewhat divorced from the day-to-day challenges people have.” –speaking at the ServiceNation forum in New York, Sept. 11, 2008
I do believe the fundmentals of the USA economy is strong and it still is. Amongist all of the doom slayers we still have hope. We do not need politicians of any party to have reforms (raised taxes). In my opinion our dip in the economy has been helped along by the dems and lib news media. Politicians like all people make statements, which later will jump up and bite them, happens to me all the time, but I get over it. So what good does it serve to bring up statements of the past in the blog?
My favorites are all those dealing with the grave and gathering danger of Saddam’s wmds and the mushroom cloud over manhattan, or bush statement that he wasn’t a nation builder.
Mission Accomplished!
Mary,
Would you please add george’s comment at 10:01 a.m. to the dumb@ss list of things posted here? It’s up there in the top ten, at least.
How about a ‘What politicians should not have done’ category.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/election2008/ig/Election-Funny-Pictures/McCain-Bush-Hug.htm
cosmos, thanks! That has always been my all-time favorite photo of that politician!
“Bring ‘em on!”
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/32829
Bush and Palin should never be included in any of the serious discussions of gaffes a President or high official makes. They’d dominate the list.
The people making the statements need to have credibility for it to be a real mess up. Otherwise its just business as usual as Mary showed.
“He can run, but he can’t hide”
“The insurgency is in their last throes”
Pmom is probably correct, and if you included outright lies, the list would never be completed!
http://www.bushoniraq.com/
Bush telling us he looked into Putin’s eyes …
georgie,
“Politicians like all people make statements, which later will jump up and bite them, happens to me all the time, but I get over it.”
We’ve all noticed how often it happens to you. Maybe you ought to consider what you say BEFORE you say it; then you won’t have to get over it!
Osama Obama gaffs.
Osama Obama claimed his birth was a result of his parents conceiving
him at the Selma, Alabama civil rights march. Only problem is, Osama
Obama was born in 1961, the march was in 1965.
An Osama Obama quote about tornadoes in Kansas in May of last year,
““In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten
thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.”
The actual death toll was 12.
Earlier this month in Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States:
“Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United
States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.”
Really? When did we add another 18 states?
Osama Obama took a swipe at the Bush administration about the lack of
translators in Afghanistan–
————-
Since W is almost gone it is only fair that we stock up on O’s gaffes. These are just a few I hame many more and I am sure these are just the beginning.
Here is a clue Osama Obama, in Afghanistan Iraqis speak Arabic or
Kurdish. The Afghanis speak Pashto, Farsi, or other non-Arabic
languages. So an Iraqi translator is of little use in Afghanistan
unless he also speaks those other languages.
Osama Obama told a Portland crowd: “Iran does not pose a serious
threat to us. Tiny countries with small defense budgets can’t do us
harm.”
Then the very next day he states: “I’ve made it clear for years that
the threat from Iran is grave.”
“okobserver” cites –
“Osama Obama gaffs.
>…I States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.””
With this classic “okobserver” snark –
“Really? When did we add another 18 states?”
;^)
Last week, in front of a roaring Sioux Falls, S.D., audience, Obama exulted: “Thank you, Sioux City. … I said it wrong. I’ve been in Iowa for too long. I’m sorry.”
Over the weekend in Oregon, Obama pleaded ignorance of the decades-old, multibillion-dollar massive Hanford nuclear-waste cleanup: “Here’s something that you will rarely hear from a politician, and that is that I’m not familiar with the Hanford, uuuuhh, site, so I don’t know exactly what’s going on there. (Applause.) Now, having said that, I promise you I’ll learn about it by the time I leave here on the ride back to the airport.”
I assume on that ride, a staffer reminded him that he’s voted on at least one defense-authorization bill that addressed the “costs, schedules, and technical issues” dealing with the nation’s most contaminated nuclear-waste site.
Last March, the Chicago Tribune reported this little-noticed nugget about a fake autobiographical detail in Obama’s Dreams from My Father: “Then, there’s the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don’t exist, say the magazine’s own historians.”
On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.
Obama also spoke about his uncle, who was part of the American brigade that helped to liberate Auschwitz. He said the family legend is that, upon returning from war, his uncle spent six months in an attic. (of course they were freed by the Red Army)
I don’t think the late night comedians will have a shortage of material when W leaves.
MOnkey I don’t write them just cut and past them. Are you denying he said we had 58 states because I heard that one.
Picky, picky, picky.
OkObserver: I just arrived for a few minutes and haven’t read up-thread. But regarding Iran, it’s not a “tiny” country. As I recall, its population is about 70 million. That’s three times the population of Iraq at about 25 million. It’s about 1/4 of the 300 million population of the U.S. I suspect Iran spends a fair amount of its oil income for a standing Army.
Here’s what Senator Obama said. He was speaking about whether to negotiate with Iran. In context words may take on a different slant.
————–
“Strong countries and strong presidents talk to their adversaries,” Obama said. “That’s what Kennedy did with Khrushchev. That’s what Reagan did with Gorbachev. That’s what Nixon did with Mao. I mean, think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don’t pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying we’re going to wipe you off the planet. And ultimately that direct engagement led to a series of measures that helped prevent nuclear war, and over time allowed the kind of opening that brought down the Berlin Wall. Now, that has to be the kind of approach that we take.
“You know, Iran, they spend one-one hundredth of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn’t stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen. That doesn’t mean we agree with them on everything. We might not compromise on any issues, but at least we should find out other areas of potential common interest, and we can reduce some of the tensions that have caused us so many problems around the world.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/828/
Sorry Gram, but when posting a supposed gaffe, don’t make a gaffe. Some of those weren’t even gaffes. The one there he did make, was corrected quickly. Obama will never sound as downright stupid as Bush and Co. and his supporters.
And you can call him President Obama now, calling him Osama is downright rude.
Obama’s own words:
John Edwards based his Presidential run on the “Two Americas” theme, arguing that there was one America for the rich and another America for the poor. After witnessing the failure of the “Two Americas” platform, Barack Obama has now initiated his “Two Iran’s” platform. One Iran poses no threat to us, while the other is a “grave” threat.
While speaking in Oregon two days ago, Obama said:
” mean think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don’t pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us….You know, Iran, they spend one-one hundredth of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn’t stand a chance.
It is that last sentence that I find particularly amusing, where he states that if Iran ever tried to pose a threat to us, they wouldn’t stand a chance. This implies that they currently do not pose and a threat, and if they ever did, Obama would have no qualms about wiping them out.
Now here is Obama yesterday in Montana:
“Iran is a grave threat. It has an illicit nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the region and militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel’s existence. It denies the Holocaust…
http://constitutionallyright.com/2008/05/20/obama-and-the-two-irans/
“okobserver” –
Are you denying your wrote “Really? When did we add another 18 states?”
Political_mama
Posted November 23, 2008 at 7:12 pm | Permalink
Sorry Gram, but when posting a supposed gaffe, don’t make a gaffe. Some of those weren’t even gaffes. The one there he did make, was corrected quickly. Obama will never sound as downright stupid as Bush and Co. and his supporters.
And you can call him President Obama now, calling him Osama is downright rude
———————-
Thanks Pmom for the kind words and I believe if you can call President Bush W or shrub for 8 years I will Obama whatever I feel like. No offense intended. Dems are going to see the back side of that smear gun they have used for years unfortunately.
BTW nothing I posted was disproved. Those were his works and you dems will just have to live with them.
The difference is that I wont do anything to make his job harder because his success will be good for our country.
“Would you please add george’s comment at 10:01 a.m. to the dumb@ss list of things posted here? It’s up there in the top ten, at least.”
— predestined.
That was a George joke. Watch out, the leg you pull may be yer own.
“okobserver” –
Are you denying your wrote “Really? When did we add another 18 states?”
—–
Monkeyhawk, if you put those words into “the google” you’ll find A BLOG. An opinion.
Every opinion is as good and as useless as the next.
okobserver posted November 23, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Really? When did we add another 18 states?
———————-
Classic!
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 23, 2008 at 7:21 pm | Permalink
“okobserver” –
Are you denying your wrote “Really? When did we add another 18 states?”
————-
Yes Monkey that is exactly what I am doing. You’re pretty sharp tonight must have had a good weekend.
————–
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2008-05/msg03346.html
I don’t endorse the source but we all know the words are his.
Great: dueling malapropisms. Where’s the friggin’ banjo.
EIGHteen
18
ONE EIGHT
As I said Linda and Cosmos we all know the words are Obama’s. Are you all feeling a little insecure tonight. Maybe all of the insults you threw for 8 years will be coming back at you.
I don’t vouch for the source. But the words are Obama’s aren’t they.
“political_mama” –
You have to remember “okobserver” believes there are 40 states in the union.
If were gonna result to calling our president disparaging nicknames, she’s more comfortable if you say something about Benji Harrison.
“Grannie,” indeed.
malapropisms
long word, never even heard it before. Thank goodness for “the google.” ;-)
result = resort
You have to admit: given Obama’s name, God is playing Karma games (again).
What if Clinton had been named bill boner?
It’d be about equal.
The left is certainly whinny tonight. I have been on the road all weekend and just came in intime to put some things politicans wish they hadn’t said. Now Monkey, Cosmos, Pmom and Linda want to attack me.
Don’t shoot the messenger. The fun has just started. Remember your tag for W as the dumbest prez ever. His IQ was higher than both Kerry and Gore. And guess what along with his medical report, Obama hasn’t released his IQ either. Wonder what that is?
Did I spell it right, ms. Inks. I only used it because I didn’t know how to spell the word I wanted to use. And I was too lazy to look it up.
sort of like volume
On behalf of “okobserver” –
I’d like to welcome South Dakota to the union, the 40th (and newest!) state!
(It’s that Benji Hairy-chin’s fault.)
How old do you have to be to think there are 40 stars on the American flag?
okobserver,
People sometimes misspeak when they are tired.
Could you do the grueling campaign schedule that Obama did, and never become tired, and never misspeak?
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 23, 2008 at 7:29 pm | Permalink
“political_mama” –
You have to remember “okobserver” believes there are 40 states in the union.
If were gonna result to calling our president disparaging nicknames, she’s more comfortable if you say something about Benji Harrison.
“Grannie,” indeed.
——————-
Monkey since this made no sense why don’t you attempt to explain it. You know I said nothing about thinking there were 40 states.
I will call Obama what I wish until he earned a more prestigious title. You see I was raised to believe that people earned respect it wasn’t given to them before that.
you DID spell it correctly!
paddle faster. I hear banjo music.
Linda,
“Every opinion is as good and as useless as the next.”
Except for when one is based on facts and one is not, one is based in lies and the other is on truth.
Every opinion is NOT as good and as useless as the next.
And if you disagree with me you prove yourself wrong…
LOL
1. I really am starting to think that republicans were behind the Kennedy assassinations. So this division between republicans and democrats is long long long.
2. After Nixon, Iran Contra, and then to treat Clinton the way the cons had… you elect BUSH the bumbling bafoon of the nation, and you want to be angry at us for pointing it out? I call us about even. So lets end it now ok?
Wake up woman. Stop your pouting. Obama wasn’t my first choice for President, but I support him UNTIL he screws up. Dems gave Bush the benefit of the doubt until he was an abysmal failure. You can do the same for Obama until he screws up.
Nathaniel,
If you have facts why would you present an opinion?
Cosmos I have said on here many times that this was the case. I remember clearly when Quayle was attacked for spelling potato wrong. He was just as tired. He was battered by the press. Where was that same coverage of Obama’s gaffes.
That is my point. I wish the man no ill will. Believe me.
Nevermind. Anyone who could continue to support Shrub isn’t ever gonna get it.
Pmom lighten up woman. I haven’t put Obama down. You are really stretching on that one. I just followed the thread and posted his gaffes because no one else bothered and W was so well represented.
BTW I didn’t hear you telling Mary to stop calling President Bush ‘W’.
“Dems gave Bush the benefit of the doubt until he was an abysmal failure. You can do the same for Obama until he screws up.”
This from the party that from day screamed ‘he stole the election’. I promise you this I will treat Obama much better that the dems ever treated Bush.
Linda,
Because facts do not always answer the question.
“okobserver” –
The Obama campaign had 58 “state” organizations for the primaries.
One for each of the states in the union and organizations in Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, the District of Columbia, American Samoa, and … I can never complete these lists.*
*Doc, Sneezy, Sleepy, Happy, Grumpy, Dopey and…. Vixen. Hell I can’t ever remember the 7th one. Or the 8th reindeer
Anyway.
You snarked about Obama saying he’d visited 57 “states” and snarked “Really? When did we add another 18 states?”
Do the math, “okobserver.”
For “another 18 (you even spelled it out again to make sure I got your true intent) states,” to reach the 58 number that so amused you, there must be 40 states in the union.
That’s not “attacking” you. That’s showing you and all in this forum just how arrogant and ignorant you’ve been tonight.
Bashful.
mxyzptlk
Posted November 23, 2008 at 7:46 pm | Permalink
grannie whore okobserver can barely put a coherent sentence together.
Cut her some slack, her meds are very strong when she takes them.
When she doesn’t take them she hallucinates bats in her belfry.
———————–
I see Chas is still pretending to be someone he isn’t. You poor sad person. People who have facts and the mind to process them can have discussions. People who don’t like you just call others names and act juvenile. You poor pathetic person. You should find a peer group to help you with your problems. You might need more that one group.
“Because facts do not always answer the question.”
——
I don’t even understand what you mean. whooosh is the sound of that going right over my head.
When I have facts to back up my opinion, I will post them. If I don’t I post my opinion anyway. It is, after all, as good and as useless as any other. Facts I may wish were different in order to better match my opinion, but they are what they are.
MonkeyHawk,
So, if by your standards okobserver is both arrogant and ignorant for pointing out that Obama said that he has visited 57 states (and making a mistake while doing so)…
You admit that Obama is arrogant and ignorant as well for being the one for saying such an absurd thing in the first place?
Nathaniel proves his ignorance…pay attention slug…
grannie said “Really? When did we add another 18 states?”
Get it? “57 states” ” add 18 states”?
Duh…pudding for brains the both of ‘em!
Linda,
If I were to say that it was my opinion that on Monday morning I think it will snow.
It is just my opinion.
However, someone else (a weatherman) who looks at the weather data gives his opinion that it will most likely just be overcast and slightly brezzy, but definately no snow.
One of those opinions is based on facts and the other is not. One of those opinions is more valuable than the other. Or do you take both as being “as good and as useless as any other?”
mxyzptlk
Posted November 23, 2008 at 8:04 pm | Permalink
Get it? “57 states” ” add 18 states”?
Duh…pudding for brains the both of ‘em!
————–
Before burying yourself any deeper lay down the shovel, go to the place where I posted the link the quote came from. You do make yourself look stupid.
mxyzptlk,
What proof do you have that okobserver is a whore and how are we to know what you are when you post under such a nic?
For all I know you are a pedophile hiding in the basement with a kidnapped child while serfing the chat rooms looking for your next victim.
serfing = surfing
Nathan I think it is going to be a long 4 years if they are bent out of shape about things he said being pointed out.
mxy I fear has spent too long in the bottle today.
“Or do you take both as being “as good and as useless as any other?”
—–
Yep. Both those opinions are as good and as useless as the other.
The weatherman’s may be based on the facts he has at the current moment he made the prediction but I live in Kansas and I’ll be prepared for your opinion and pleased if the weatherman’s prediction comes true.
okobserver,
Actually, we’re laughing at you for copy/pasting ”add 18 states”.
Don’t you even read what you post?
Cosmos if I did or didn’t does it matter. You seem to think it is ok for Obama as our prez elect to think we have 58 states but as a poster on a blog - you can laugh at me for cutting and pasting something.
Cosmos do you get the duplicity of this. Probably not. Dems have strange senses of humor.
So do you really believe there are only 40 states, OK? If so, why do you make fun of Obama for saying there are “57 plus one more”?
I think you just illustrated that anyone can misspeak…it’s just that Bush does it SO much.
Linda,
Wow… Even when confronted with such an obvious example of how you are wrong, rather than simply admit it you embrace the example.
I give you credit for sticking to your guns, even though you are wrong.
You see, you still fall victim to the fact that you proved yourself wrong because you claim to be right.
Allow me to explain:
Your opinion:
“Every opinion is as good and as useless as the next.”
My opinion:
“Every opinion is NOT as good and as useless as the next”
Only one can be can right. Both can’t be correct. Which disproves your statement that every opinion is as good and as useless as the next.
If you try to say your statement is correct, then that means you are saying mine is wrong. (Because both can’t be true) Which then defeats your opinion that all opinions are as good and as useless as the next.
You know what, Nathan? I never think someone needs to be wrong in order for me to be right.
Well lets see here…
If Okobserver was the only person making the claim that what Obama said was absurd, you liberals might have a point.
However, there are many more Conservatives who have not mis-spoken while pointing out this stupidity of Obama’s.
Trying to attack Okobserver doesn’t change the fact that Obama said something stupid.
“Earlier this month in Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States:
“Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United
States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.”
Really? When did we add another 18 states?”
Obama doesn’t think we have 58 states anymore than you think we have 40. Obviously you are BOTH tired!
Now, Mary! Are you sure someone can be right without someone else being wrong?
If you’re keeping count, Nathan…I think Bush has won the blue ribbon for saying the most stupid things.
Mary_Caruso
Posted November 23, 2008 at 8:28 pm | Permalink
So do you really believe there are only 40 states, OK? If so, why do you make fun of Obama for saying there are “57 plus one more”?
I think you just illustrated that anyone can misspeak…it’s just that Bush does it SO much
—————-
Mary of all of the posters here you are the biggest disappointment. You used to post intelligent well thought out posts. No so much anymore. You know that I copied an entire column and that comment was there. I should have cut it but didn’t. Not even sure why it was there. Regardless Obama made the 58 states statement. Are you all going to spend the next 4 years defending all of his misquotes - because there will be others. He is only human afterall.
Enough already. I had a long trip home today and am calling it a day early.
Just feel free to carry on without me.
Linda,
You might not “think” so, but in order for your statement to be correct, someone has to be wrong.
I prefer to think that people make honest mistakes, especially when they’re tired or stressed out…but I guess it’s wrong when one can’t admit it that they’ve made a mistake.
“Nathaniel” –
Give it up, boy.
If Obama had come back three times and said something like, “I said there are 58 states in the union and I meant it!” ol’ “okobserver” might have a leg to stand on.
As it happened, she snarked, “Really? When did we add another 18 states?”
And came back at least three times to defend her “another 18 states”
Do the math, boy. (you can count on your fingers if it helps)
To her credit, “okobserver” didn’t sink so low as to claim it was a typo. No, she came back two or three times to make it clear she meant Obama’s 58-state organizations misstatement was a gaffe because of the “another 18 states” she wasn’t aware of.
Fact is, there are no 58 states but because Obama organized in the 50 states and eight United States territories, he was closer to accurate than “okobserver” who apprently has forgotten that Montana, Washington, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, Alaska, and Hawaii have joined the union.
The key, here, “Nathaniel” is “okobserver” snarking about “another 18 states.”
Get it now, boy?
“Another” 18 states?
And sticking to it!
And whining that I am some how “attacking” her!
And trying to change the subject.
And you step in to a debate that’s already so comically decided and it’s obvious you don’t have a dog in this fight or know that it ain’t dogs fighting.
And you didn’t bring your dog anyway. (Luckily you have a gun.)
But if I had to debate this evening’s issue with your dog, I’d kill.
Just as I do with you, boy, all the time.
No wonder real fighting Marines don’t trust you to have their back in the Sand Box.
Mary_Caruso
Posted November 23, 2008 at 8:33 pm | Permalink
If you’re keeping count, Nathan…I think Bush has won the blue ribbon for saying the most stupid things
———-
Actually for a man who isn’t even prez yet he has a good number of gaffes. So we really can’t compare them can we.
BTW Pmom says you should say President Bush - out of respect for the man and the office.
OK, Nathaniel!
I truly think your opinion is good!
And useless.
Just like mine.
And, I never think you need to be wrong in order for me to be right.
Monkey you of course can tell us what was in Obama’s mind and you are sure that he ‘visited’ these territories.
Of course not. Pathetic.
okobserver posted November 23, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Cosmos if I did or didn’t does it matter. You seem to think it is ok for Obama as our prez elect to think we have 58 states but as a poster on a blog - you can laugh at me for cutting and pasting something.
Cosmos do you get the duplicity of this. Probably not. Dems have strange senses of humor.
————————–
Obama was tired, and obviously misspoke. He did not, and does not actually “think we have 58 states”.
okobserver, on the other hand, copy/pasted ”add 18 states” here.
Did she post something she did not read, or did she not notice the very obvious error?
She never does admit when she makes mistakes.
I think we should all drop it when someone does instead of dragging it on and on and on and on.
By the way, I think calling granny a whore is over the line. I know what you meant by it, but that’s not cool.
Its impossible to post logically with those who refuse to use any logic.
There is no way Obama’s intelligence can be compared with Bush’s….it’s pretty obvious who has the higher IQ. Bush has been a bozo from the very beginning…Obama isn’t anything like him..thank God for that.
I agree PMom…we can disagree, but calling each other obscene names is totally uncalled for. It’s actually pretty scary what some people turn into when they can hide behind a computer screen.
Mary,
It is rather ironic and hypocritical that in one post you insult the intelligence of Bush while in the next you are talking about how calling people obscene names is totally uncalled for.
“Its impossible to post logically with those who refuse to use any logic.”
HA HA HA
Tell that to Linda for me.
“okobserver” –
You didn’t merely cut & post the “…another 18 states” comment. You came back two or three times and defended it.
Own it.
Admit your attempt to cut & post something, anything, that might equate to George WMD Bush’s record of serial-gaffes you simply didn’t have your brain engaged.
That’s the most frustrating thing about this forum. You CONs aren’t merely ignorant, you’re arrogant in your ignorance. You dug in your heels, “okobserver,” to defend your “another 18 states” snark.
It’s a recurring situation with your CONs in this forum.
Sometimes it’s entertaining to watch. Sometimes ya just gotta sigh.
Nathaniel,
Explain your “logic” of believing falsehoods from AGW deniers like Dennis Avery.
cosmos, logic seems to be what Nathaniel wants / chooses it to be.
Linda,
And I am just as right or as useless as you are… right Linda?
LOL
Your opinions are, Nathaniel!
And your science is clueless, Nathaniel.
Monkey you have just proven what I have been saying all along. When you first pointed it out I said I didn’t write I just posted it. I then gave you the link it came from so you could see it for yourself. Every lib on the blog then attacked me for posting it but nothing about this gaffe and the others that Obama has made.
You even attempted to explain his mindset when he said it and no where has he himselft attempted to do this. It was a gaffe pure and simple.
Now I have said I posted something that had one sentence that made no sense. The rest of the post was very accurate. That sentence was not something that Obama said the other things were. So lets move on to the gaffes or drop this is has run it course and accomplished what the left set out to do. Take the spotlight off of Obama’s gaffes.
“It is rather ironic and hypocritical that in one post you insult the intelligence of Bush while in the next you are talking about how calling people obscene names is totally uncalled for.”
And when have I ever called someone an obscene name, Nathan? I think there is a big difference between insulting someone’s intelligence and calling them a whore.
YOU calling ME hypocritical…now THAT’S a laugh!
Cosmos,
My opinions are just as valid. Just ask Linda.
Once you make your opinions observable and reproducible and tested they are no longer opinions. Learn what science is, Nathaniel.
“Take the spotlight off of Obama’s gaffes.”
Aren’t you the one who brought it up in the first place?
Linda,
Just let me know when AGW science is “reproducible, obervable, and tested”
So far, we have a bunch of scientists giving us their “opinions” on what is going to happen based on the evidence at hand.
Remember our example earlier?
It is my opinion that based on the data we are not causing the type of Global Warming that many are so worried about.
According to you, my opinion is just as valid.
Mary that is the theme of this thread. You listed Bush’s I just listed some of Obama. What exactly did I do wrong?
Why did I deserve the personal attacks because I contributed to the thread?
What is the left not getting here?
Absolutely! Your opinions are as good and as useless as any others.
Cosmos,
You see, according to Linda, my opinions on AGW are just as good as the scientists.
Speaking of logic, it is called the ad hominem logical fallacy.
Instead of addressing the substance of your posts okobserver, they choose to attack you instead.
Since we are so concerned about logic now, right Political Mama?
Well maybe some one will post a logical reason why I was attacked by the left after I am gone.
Good nite.
Nathaniel posted November 23, 2008 at 9:15 pm
It is my opinion that based on the data we are not causing the type of Global Warming that many are so worried about.
—————————-
And all that you have is your opinion, Dennis Avery’s opinion, Steven Milloy’s opinion, etc.
Nathaniel does not have any credible science to support his opinion.
True, cosmos. But until he learns what science is there really is no point in attempting a discussion with him.
“Well maybe some one will post a logical reason why I was attacked by the left ”
Because you are a generally disagreeable, not very bright person who posted something stupid?
It was just comical that you posted Obama’s gaffe about 58 states and then the statement about “when did we add 18 states?” Everyone contributed that statement to you becuase it the way it was posted, it looked like you said it. I don’t think anyone was attacking you…it was just too funny to let slide.
Good grief Cosmos, give it a rest. Nathan has more than enough common sense and science to support his opinion. Count him as one supporting the 10% chance that the UN report gives for GW not being man made.
I’ve seen longer odds come in.
Linda,
I understand what science is. Why do you feel the need to say such deragatory things about me?
I thought you were above that? I thought you were better than that?
Appears not.
Those poor whimpering whining CONs.
We said something that made ‘em cry.
We pointed out their ignorant arrogance and now they want their binkie.
You mean:
You affirmed the ignorant arrogance of Obama.
I wonder what cosmos science qualifications are, other than Web pages.
cosmos claims superior knowledge in science, yet refuses to give any background to his education or in particular, his training in science.
It’s really interesting to listen to all the blog (cough) scientists, none who knows what it takes to do calibrations for experimentation or to set up a protocol to make an experiment valid for publishing.
Perhaps cosmos will give us some insight into his qualification using pressure transducers and subsequent recording methods on magnetic tape, strip chart recording or other types of digital media.
Then cosmos could explain the discrete functions of Fourier analysis as it applies to interpreting digital data.
cosmos talks a good game, but can he back it up?
(expects a full fledged personal attack with nothing of substance from cosmos and just more excuses why he won’t qualify himself on his so-called superior status in the science community)
Let’s see what you got fluff-boy.
outlander posted November 23, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Count him as one supporting the 10% chance that the UN report gives for GW not being man made.
I’ve seen longer odds come in.
———————-
outlander, do you not understand the difference between cause and “observed”?
“Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperature since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic human-caused greenhouse gas concentrations.”
Where “very likely” is > 90%.
And aerosols are masking some warming that AGW would otherwise be causing
Regular,
I hope that you’re recovering from your recent stroke.
Posted November 23, 2008 at 10:01 pm | Permalink
Regular,
I hope that you’re recovering from your recent stroke.
——————————-
Thanks, I think.
It will take anywhere from 3 months to a year I am told, if I don’t’ have more strokes.
==============================================
Now, back to your science qualifications cosmos.
What makes you more qualified on science than any other the other bloggers?
How about what research you have done, where you have studied, what papers you have participated in and what degrees you have completed.
If you won’t give them here, then you have no basis to challenge any else on the blog with their credentials in discussing science at the most rudimentary level (which is what is done here at the blog.)
outlander
Have you even read the scientific reports that you attack?
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
Something else must be masking it too Cosmos, as temps continue to cool as CO2 goes up. Yes, still above average compared to whatever arbitrary period it is that they use, but still, cooling.
“Very likely” is not a lock. It was very likely that the Yankees would have made the playoffs this year too.
outlander,
Okay. . . so you are NOT able to understand the difference between cause, and “observed”.
You seem to enjoy appearing foolish, by proving that you don’t know what’s in the report you attack.
And you also don’t seem to understand the difference between science and baseball.
outlander posted November 23, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Something else must be masking it too Cosmos, as temps continue to cool as CO2 goes up.
——————–
Temperatures are not cooling. And aerosols can cause considerable cooling — note the influence of Mt Pinatubo, and other eruptions.
“Really? When did we add another 18 states?”
When you were taking your nap, granny. The first two were Afghanistan and Iraq - more announcements later.
“It will take anywhere from 3 months to a year I am told, if I don’t’ have more strokes.”
Get off your butt, exercise, take your meds faithfully, and eat right. You have to be pro-active if you’re going to recover.
Aren’t you glad you have healthcare coverage? Can you imagine what it would be like if you didn’t? How much would you have to pay out just for your meds?
Bush Lite has so many I am sure Time had trouble finding representative samples. However, when one talks about UNFORTUNATE one liners from the standpoint of the person uttering them, Bush has at least 3 notables:
1) “Heckuva job, Brownie.”
2) “Mission accomplished.”
3) “Fool me once…shame on…shame on you. Fool me you can’t get fooled again.”