The GOP leadership split of the two chambers of the Kansas Legislature arguably has been good for Kansans, forcing the conservatives who control the House and the moderates who control the Senate to find consensus. Should state Sen. Susan Wagle, R-Wichita, find the votes to take the Senate presidency away from Sen. Steve Morris, R-Hugoton, conservatives would reign. But Wagle’s rise to that post would be satisfying for apolitical reasons: No woman or Wichitan has ever been president of the Kansas Senate. The last Kansas House speaker from Wichita? Dale Bryant in 1949-50.
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Carolyn Mcginn and Jean Schodorf, are you listening?
To bad someone who is so inept at understanding the issues is in office at all.
Moo. She’s moo ving on up.
Gods I hate Kansas.
WAGLE? The cons would put WAGLE in the Senate leadership?
Oh HAIL no.
Wichita should be ashamed of her. Talk about your wingnut fundy freaks.
WHO keeps voting for that pig?
Sheesh give me some warning to get out and then put a fence around those people.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_/ai_n11799360
For those of you unfamiliar with the nut in question…
Brilliant argument in that link, PMOM. Thanks!
“Far from being an isolated incident, Sen. Wagle’s assault on [sex ed instructor] Dennis Dailey is part of a larger strategy by the religious right to organize around issues of sexuality. Sex education, abortion, gay rights — these are the issues that have launched a thousand direct- mail campaigns since the right “discovered” social issues in the late 1960s. In these crusades against sexual liberalism in all of its forms, the truth or falsity of the accusations has always been secondary to their political usefulness. If Dennis Dailey’s reputation is smeared along the way, well, that’s just collateral damage in the Christian right’s war for political influence.
“So far, Professor Dailey’s current and former students have been his main line of defense. The silence from most of Kansas’s leaders in higher education has been deafening. But it is time for KU’s Chancellor Robert Hemenway and his colleagues at Kansas State and the other state universities to swallow their fears that the Legislature may retaliate against them. They need to take a stand for academic freedom and the mission of the university.”
Rhonda–
Do you ever READ what you write?
Susan Wagle maybe from Wichita, but she’s loony tunes, flip-city, fruit loopy.
She said in a public forum that poor people could afford health insurance if they would cancel their HBO and cell phones.
Unfortunately, even though we had a video camera at this event knowing that Miss Smug Self-righteous was sure to say something just like she said, we couldn’t video tape because Wagle was protecting herself from . . . uh . . . herself.
What’s the matter with you, Cap’n? Don’t you know that those poor folk are just rolling in the cash. They are one step away from prosperity, if the selfish bastards would just cancel those cell phone plans and HBO subscriptions.
And just remember, Wagle looks out for Kansans’ health care, when she is not too busy stuffing her pockets with campaign contributions from Big Pharma, for-profit hospital corporations, and such orgs PACs. She is a model of looking after her constituents’ interests. Excuse me, while I go vomit after telling that lie.
Ditto, that, SED!
She outraised the Dem candidate like 3 to 1, and as far as I could tell, she didn’t even spend any of it.
I don’t know what she’s going to do with the 100 grand she’s got left over.
Probably give it to the State Republican Party.
Like they need it.
Heheheh. The promise of campaign donations from that hundred grand left over ought to garner the biotch some support in her quest for leadership, no?
The best republican government money can buy!
J R,
It is extremely difficult for me to figure out who Wagle’s constituency is – besides corporate health care interests, big pharma, etc. So she mirco manages sex education classes on the KU campus. Why should I care about that, and what else does she do?
If anyone out there voted for this sham, please explain your rationale for doing so.
Don’t know much about Susan Wagle, except what I’ve read here from the libs. Of course, you can’t believe that. But I gather that they don’t like her. A definite plus.
Another example refuting the lie that the left is “pro-woman”. Actually, of course, they are only “pro-liberal woman”.
Wagle got a ton of money from Todd Tiahrt’s PAC. It is curiously named “Heart PAC”. I guess he raised so much money that he can share it with like minded ideologues. There are precious few actual citizens who contributed to Wagle. The corporate KS senator, Susan Wagle, brought to you by the best that coporate money can buy.
Check out her campaign reports. It is very sad, I’m telling you.
http://ethics.ks.gov/CFAScanned/Senate/2008ElecCycle/SLinks.htm
Wagle is in district 30. I can’t believe Rhonda wrote the praise piece above.
I went door-to-door for Wagle’s Dem challenger on a number of occasions, Steven.
In our Sen. district, I’d say there’s about 15-20 percent hard-core religious right like Wagle.
There’s another 10 percent gun-nuts and 20 percent “small business owners” who are sure that Dems are going to tax them out of business.
So . . . add it up. That’s almost a majority right there.
Then add on the 10 percent uninformed R’s who will vote for anything with an R next to the name and . . . viola, you’ve got the 60 percent that Wagle earned last election.
She even beat a reasonable R like former mayor Bob Knight.
People like idiots in this town. What can I say.
Hell, Bill Warren could have been mayor if only he hadn’t spilled his real feelings about Wichita to Eagle . . .
I think it’s possible to beat Wagle.
But you’d need somebody who starts in earnest NOW to do it.
If you knocked on every door in the district and you had money and endorsements behind you, you could do it.
All you’d have to say is, “have you heard from Wagle in the past ten years?”
Facts are facts, outlander. We know you hate them.
Another reason to like them, in my view.
I think one has to also understand how she has such a grip on this district. I used to think the 30th included the eastern part of Butler County, where Charles Manson could win an election if he had an “R” after his name, but it doesn’t. Sedgwick County people put her in office. It’s disgraceful.
outlander–
Guilty, as charged.
We are not “pro-woman,” if pro-woman means what Wagle makes it mean: marry a rich man like me so you can have health insurance like me.
Obviously, one doesn’t support a woman just because she has lady parts. She’s also got to have a brain.
Sorry, Cap’n, did not read your post before I posted the last. I think you have figured out. Wagle runs on the Kansas inferiority complex that we have to keep taxes down because we are so ugly and nobody would want to ever live here unless they could do so tax free. Throw in a little bit of Kansas fear and loathing of anything progressive and it is a winning formula.
I have already spent time and money on getting Susan ousted. Willing to do more. Let’s keep in touch on that.
I decided to not respond to outlander on that, Cap’n. You have to understand he has been so marginalized recently, he is starting to sound like one ANTI – someone to be ignored. Just my opinion.
Capn, why dont you run against wagle? But really if your going to try an unseat an incumbent like Wagle( who has a lot of money) now is when you start organizing your campaign and raising money. And If Tiahrt runs for the Senate which is likely and Wouldn’T be surprised to find Mrs Wagle running for his seat.
Capn, more advice camara phones
Wow! Such a lot of hatred for a Monday morning. I guess that old saying was right, “There’s nothing more intolerant than a cornered Liberal”:)
Dailey needs to file a defamation suit, like that lady running against Liddy Dole did. Sounds like his reputation was slandered.
ksgran
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:27 am | Permalink
Wow! Such a lot of hatred for a Monday morning. I guess that old saying was right, “There’s nothing more intolerant than a cornered Liberal”:)
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There’s no more dangerous place to be than between a Republican and their welfare check (subsidies) from the government trough.
Or perhaps more dangerous is to bebetween an Evangelical Christian and their tax-free donations to their ‘church’ (which is in reality a business).
There is alot of intolerance in the world – one only has to be able to have an open mind and see all the intolerance, not just those you deem ‘liberal’.
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StevenEDavis
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink
I decided to not respond to outlander on that, Cap’n. You have to understand he has been so marginalized recently, he is starting to sound like one ANTI – someone to be ignored. Just my opinion.
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Why Steven, talking at me through the Capn?
You don’t have to be afraid to say what’s on your mind directly to me. This is a discussion board. I won’t bite.
outlander,
“Don’t know much about Susan Wagle, except what I’ve read here from the libs. Of course, you can’t believe that.”
I was in attendance at the forum at the KU Medical Center where Susan Wagle made the remark about “poor people” and cel phones. It was at that same meeting that she claimed that obese people receive a disproportionate share of public health funds, and ridiculed them for being (and here I paraphrase) as “the same people who use a clicker [remote control] instead of getting off the couch to change the channel.”
In that meeting, Senator Wagle showed herself to be as stupid as she is mean-spirited. I absolutely hope that she takes control of the GOP caucus in the State Senate; a better opening for moderates and sane folks of all ideological stripes would be hard to imagine.
I and a couple of hundred other people, including Dion Leffler of the Wichita Eagle, heard her make PRECISELY these remarks. To claim otherwise, outlander, is to call me–and any number of other professional persons and elected officials–a liar.
You calling me a liar, outlander?
The GOP was handed a defeat in this election as punishment, because it has become a Big Tent party, standing for nothing, accomplishing little, winning nothing worthwhile, opting instead to allow corruption and excessive spending. So says the American Issues Project, based on a survey of swing-state voters.
Enforcing adherence to the principles and values of the core conservative right-wing base is the hope of the Republican Party.
I and a couple of hundred other people, including Dion Leffler of the Wichita Eagle, heard her make PRECISELY these remarks. To claim otherwise, outlander, is to call me–and any number of other professional persons and elected officials–a liar.
You calling me a liar, outlander?
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Stop CF, you’re scaring me.
It was at that same meeting that she claimed that obese people receive a disproportionate share of public health funds, and ridiculed them for being (and here I paraphrase) as “the same people who use a clicker [remote control] instead of getting off the couch to change the channel.
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She is right you know CF. Tough love. I wouldn’t have been so kind. If you are obese, you need to push yourself away from the table and go take a walk. Or whatever you can do. Get moving. Eliminate sugar. Don’t go the all you can eat buffet at the Golden Corral to tie on the feed bag. Quit killing yourself.
The GOP needs a teeney weeney tent! I agree.
Capn, why dont you run against wagle?
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Frankly, Tom, I think it’s a crappy deal. You work half the year and make like 30K. What are you going to do the other half of the year?
Meanwhile, your political opponents are calling up all your ex-wives to find out how often you looked Playboy magazine etc.
Too little money, too much work and stress.
No thanks.
Hey, outlander.
Tell it to Rush Limbaugh. Also Karl Rove. Also William Ayers (Fox News). Also former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert–we libs called him “Fat Bastard”.
“Don’t go the all you can eat buffet at the Golden Corral to tie on the feed bag. Quit killing yourself.”
Don’t you know that killing ourselves is a fundamental right in America?
Wagle is as a**hole who has no right to judge anyone.
So HOW much do you weigh, Out?
look whose talking, some one who can’t say anything about any body whose doe not agree with her
NICE THAT IS
Outlander, it must be serious bliss living in all that ignorance.
“look whose talking, some one who can’t say anything about any body whose doe not agree with her”
WHAT?
FORD1st
I take it you graduated from Wichita’s public school system. LOL!
LIKE WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE
For what?
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Mary_Caruso
Posted November 10, 2008 at 8:39 pm | Permalink
So HOW much do you weigh, Out?
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Just a second. I’ll go weigh…….
One hundred sixty two. And yes Mary, manure piles can weigh that much.
Are you obese?
FOR BEING SO DUMB AN HATEFUL
Hateful to whom?
Any body that does not agree with you.
Are you obese?
I do weigh more than I’d like to, but according to my doctor, I’m not obese… yet.
It’s so frustrating…I walk approximately 3 miles a day and can’t lose a pound. I was always a size 8 until I hit middle age. Nature plays cruel jokes on our bodies when we (especially women) get older.
“Any body that does not agree with you.”
I don’t think I’m more hateful than anyone else on this blog..and I’m a heck of a lot nicer than a many.
Disagreeing with others is part of the fun…it’s why many of us are here.
“FOR BEING SO DUMB AN HATEFUL”
Have I called you dumb and hateful? I’d say you’re much meaner than me!
Well heck i guess bashing people ,calling them names an putting down hatefull statements is fun. then i’m going to leave it to you. i have better things to do with my life.
Mary you have been so critical of Palin. I hope you are listening to her interview on FOX.
My wife had similar problems Mary. Then we bought a Bowflex. Adding 15 minutes of weight training two or three times a week made a big difference.
“Well heck i guess bashing people ,calling them names an putting down hatefull statements is fun. then i’m going to leave it to you. i have better things to do with my life.”
I usually don’t call other the bloggers names, and I DO “put down hateful statements”!
And..if you have better things to do with your life, then why are you here now?
Okobserver, I don’t watch Faux “news”….but I do think it’s shameful how they ate her alive after the election. I guess they had to find a scapegoat for McCain’s loss.
“Enforcing adherence to the principles and values of the core conservative right-wing base is the hope of the Republican Party.”
Clearly, parkey still lives outside of the reality based community.
Right, that is why Phill Kline did so well in his primary election in Johnson County. Your absurd “advice” is about 180 degrees opposite of what the Republicans need to do, and if the Kansan Republicans in the Senate are dumb enough to replace Morris (who I am no fan of) with Wagle, it could be the best thing for a Kansas Democratic Party that seems largely unable to help itself.
The Kansas Republican Party dominates Kansas largely because, in Kansas, it has historically been the big tent party. However, when the core conservative right wing base of the party tries to shove their beliefs down the throats of other Republicans and the state, they lose. That is the real lesson of elections in Kansas lately.
Thanks Mary for the good thoughts. I have hated to see her treated the way she was and after listening to her I know these were made up stories. Not sure for what purpose. As much from the right as the left.
Mary_Caruso
Posted November 10, 2008 at 8:59 pm | Permalink
Are you obese?
I do weigh more than I’d like to, but according to my doctor, I’m not obese… yet.
It’s so frustrating…I walk approximately 3 miles a day and can’t lose a pound. I was always a size 8 until I hit middle age. Nature plays cruel jokes on our bodies when we (especially women) get older.
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I bet you eat like a bird too.
Out, my husband wanted to get a bowflex…that might be an good idea. I am on my feet running all day at work, then I walk afterwards in addition. I don’t overeat…but I have to take certain medications, and I think that may make a difference.
I must admit that even though I don’t lose weight, the walking makes me feel so much better and I have more energy.
Working in wound care has convinced me of the importance of regular exercise. Being sedentary does terrible things to the body…and I think working a desk job is the worst thing for someone’s health.
Outlander probably shames and berates his wife into his ideal of what she should be.
God I hate to think what life must be like with people like him.
Pmom, as usual, you couldn’t be more wrong.
My wife is a strong, beautiful woman and can accomplish so many things that it amazes me. I have never said anything but positive words about her to anyone. I try to make sure that the words she hears from me always include words of encouragement and edification. In the 20 plus years we’ve been married, I’ve learned to love the little things that make her who she is. We support each other and love each other very much. I’m very lucky to have her.
I live in Waggle’s district, and she’s done absolutely nothing for us. Most of what she does is to prevent casinos from competing with her husband’s bingo parlors.
We got together with a good candidate, Raj Goyle, and beat hell out of bible-beater Bon Bon Huy. We just need to find someone as good as Goyle and do it all over again to Sue Waggle!