Saudi call for religious tolerance was galling

“When King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia stood before the United Nations last week to proclaim his opposition to ‘religious intolerance,’ anyone listening would have to think: Of all the gall!” wrote Joel Brinkley. Yet no one who attended the conference, including President Bush, pointed out the hypocrisy. “Saudi Arabia, it happens, is the world’s most intolerant state on religious matters,” Brinkley noted. “Sure, many other nations are guilty of atrocities committed in the name of religion. We humans have a long and sorry history of that. Today, however, only in Saudi Arabia are these rules institutionalized on such a broad scale – and enforced.”

14 Comments

  1. JWink
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    How did that saying go? “One small step for man; one large step for mankind.” I say give King Abdullah some space … since he appears to be going in the right direction. I believe a number of young Saudi Arabian students are attending schools in Wichita. Those who I have met appear to be very intelligent, polite and eager to learn about American ways.

    So, Phil Brownlee, don’t be so quick to criticize.

  2. Mary_Caruso
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    It’s a new day…time to open the doors to country and every culture. The old adage about “catching more flies with honey than vinegar” is true. Condeming other countries for their culture hasn’t worked in the past…let’s try something different to reign them in and see the error of their ways.

  3. Jed
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    Seems like everybody wants the world to be tolerant toward their religion, but an awful lot of them are not willing to return the favor when it comes to the other guy’s religion. Of course their religion is the right one, so it stands to reason any other religion has to be wrong. The catholics don’t like the protestants and vice versa. The muslims regard christians and jews as infidels, jews don’t care much for christians or muslims and the christians feel the same way about the jews and muslims even though they all worship the same god (though none of them will admit it) and of course all of them hate the pagans!
    Thing is, religious belief has degenerated into a commodity that everybody just has to peddle to enough of neighbors to win that all-expense trip to some eternal resort. The problem with that is that no religion is one-size-fits-all; your religion may be way too tight for me to walk around in and my religion may be a bit baggy for your taste, and his religion may be frayed out at the knees or so long we’d trip over it, or just plain too flashy. Maybe we should all just regard another person’s beliefs as their own business and quit trying to make them see the light because they’ve already got a light of their own.
    While some of you want to spend eternity learning the harp and others may look forward to some quality time with their 72 virgins, some of us aren’t interested in spending eternity anywhere. So take your own path to whatever salvation appeals to you, trust your neighbor to do the same, and don’t even ask what religion he’s into. It doesn’t matter!

  4. george
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    Muslims do not set a good example for reglious tolerance, in fact they kill over it.

  5. lindainks55
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Isn’t religious tolerance an oxymoron? I’ve seen no actual evidence of its existence.

  6. Political_mama
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    I have seen religious tolerance, but it is rare. Just ask most people how they feel about Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    Despite all the negative things I say about religion I honestly don’t care what x does in their religion as long as they aren’t shoving it down someone else’s throat and attempting to undo religious freedoms as a whole.

    Those anti-porn, anti- abortion freaks, now if they want to try to mess with my rights, I’ll try to mess with theirs.

    Saudi is a good view of what happens when church and state collide, and there is a very very good reason why all government entities should be religion free, but they’re still not.

    We still have mayor prayer breakfasts and prayers opening the legislature, we still have issues with religion in school. Why?

    And Kansas has the biggest group of people who think they want religon until they actually vote for it- and then when it is about to actually interfere with their rights *think Phill Kline* they reel it in.
    You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

  7. bth
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    But … but …

    Bush told me the Saidis were the GOOD GUYS!

  8. Posted November 22, 2008 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Bush told me the Saidis were the GOOD GUYS!

    They at least share the same attitude toward infidels.

  9. mrbill
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Well arent they special. Yes they want you to think they are.

    And they are pushing a law currently being pushed by some of their bought and paid for lawmakers that will make it a Federal Hate Crime to talk bad about a religion. And they are pushing it in the UN also.

    So if you tell the truth about Wahabbi and most other Islam in general, you will be arrested. It is already in existence in London and the rest of Britain.

    If you want to really see what Islam offers, here is the place to see it in action. Robert tracks it world wide and a speaks and writes books on it.

    http://jihadwatch.org/

    Another site has a lawyer from the Dearborn/Detroit area and she writes about the problems there with Hezbollah supporters in the community. The Dearborn area has the US largest population of Muslims. You can track their issues at her site. Lots of money laundering of cigarette smuggling and then sent back to buy weapons in Mid East.

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/

    She is a lawyer and is threatened continually in Dearbornistan as she calls it. She files charges and sends everyone to jail she gets email threats from.
    Scroll around a bit on her site. She covers a lot of issues.

  10. Maggotpunk
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Who do those Saudis think they are? There’s room for only one religion pretending to be tolerant while practicing outright bigotry, the Catholic church doesn’t need competition.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfmoms/detail?blogid=46&entry_id=32758&type=moms

    On the other hand Bob Jones University rejected part of their Christian heritage and apologized for being a bunch of racist jerks over the years.

  11. Maggotpunk
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Of course there are your everyday Christians who can’t tolerate differing views and must practice censorship.

    http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_atheist21.44263f8.html

    America’s a bit more tolerant than Saudi Arabia. Here the religious just remove the civil rights of Atheists, in Saudi Arabia Atheism is punishable by execution.

  12. Posted November 22, 2008 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Who do those Saudis think they are? There’s room for only one religion pretending to be tolerant while practicing outright bigotry, the Catholic church doesn’t need competition.

    Somebody better let the LDS (Mormom) Church know.

  13. Maggotpunk
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    “Somebody better let the LDS (Mormom) Church know.”

    Oh yes, and Mormonism is the true religion because Joseph Smith said all others are false in the D & C. Never mind that Smith though, he’s a homosexual.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/20/145340/48/889/664239

  14. Posted November 22, 2008 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Oh yes, and Mormonism is the true religion because Joseph Smith said all others are false in the D & C. Never mind that Smith though, he’s a homosexual.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/20/145340/48/889/664239

    Excellent!