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The election results are in, Obama wins in a landslide. In the village, Dixville Notch, in New Hampshire the polls have already closed with the 21 voting residents having cast their ballots. The village, which traditionally goes Republican has put 15 of its 21 votes in favor of Obama. In the past two elections the results were reversed in favor of Bush.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/dixville.notch/
Creationists might take note that the article refers to a scientific study. You know, the sort of the creationists, with their millions of dollars, never seem to get around to. I suppose it’s because they have yet to come up with a theory of creationism.
Tale Of Two Snails Reveals Secrets About The Biochemistry Of Evolution
ScienceDaily (Nov. 3, 2008) — Researchers in Spain are reporting deep new insights into how evolution changes the biochemistry of living things, helping them to adapt to new environments. Their study, based on an analysis of proteins produced by two populations of marine snails, reveals chemical differences that give one population a survival-of-the fittest edge for life in its cold, wave-exposed environment.
In the new study, Emilio Rolán-Alvarez and colleagues note that scientists long have known that animals of the same species can have different physical characteristics enabling them to survive in different habitats. One famous example is the different beak sizes and shapes that evolved in Darwin’s finches, enabling the birds to live on different foods in different habitats on the Galapagos Islands. Until now, however, scientists knew little about the invisible biochemical changes behind such adaptations.
More real science at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081103124324.htm
Hmmm, think I’m going blind in my right eye. Can only see part of the screen. It’s like there is a big empty space in the middle of my right eye.
America has changed. Get used to it Republican chumps, or get left behind.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/03/AR2008110302609.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Already know which way, you’ll go…
Regular, if you’re serious, you should head to a Dr., or to an ER….
I hate to be concerned about ya, “Regular” –
But “Chas” is right.
It could be a detached retina, macular degeneration, or even a stroke.
God bless America, and Rev. Wright.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/03/AR2008110302660.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Cast my vote and walked out of my polling place before 6:00 this morning. I love small towns.
From last night’s discussion.
McCain, at least as of May of 2008 (and there is no reason to assume any change) does not propose a 100% auction of cap and trade.
Here is an editorial explanation. I post it here not to support the writer’s position, but because it does describe how such a system works (clue, it’s not how Regular hinted that it works). Basically, 100% auction means there are no offsets (but it doesn’t mean that ANY emissions would be prohibitively expensive).
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_05/013715.php
As for last night’s discussion, a quick summary. I posted a transcript (which I took because no one else appears to have done it and posted it) of the entirity of Obama’s comments to the SF Chronicle on coal. Not surprisingly, the edited transcript was very misleading, since he was responding to a question regarding why he was still promoting coal (a curious question to ask someone who presumably wants to bankrupt the coal industry and bankrupt ALL new coal plants-which he does not-and McCain’s plan would also be very hard on new coal plants without significant carbon emission controls).
“the edited transcript” should be “the edited audio”.
Is Regular being serious?
I hope not. I hope this is one of his election day freak outs. Please do call an ambulance if you’re serious.
Why didn’t the Eagle endorse for President?
assuming the messiah wins, he will be making conciliatory speeches, saying how the entire country must work together. And, on this blog, people like steven davis will be fist pumping and talking about republican “chumps”.
no class at all.
Maybe it is time to start a 4 year WHINE about stolen elections????
chest tight arm numb
Its HERE its HERE! The day that we finally elect someone else to get GWB out of office! We’ve fought over this daily for years. I’ve never in my life been so glad for an election day to come.
I still wish I were casting my vote for Hillary today. I can only hope that Obama will be as good for the country that the Clintons were.
Abe Lincoln:
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by
discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting
class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’s initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently
by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.”
THIS is it.
Remember 2000 and 2004. Remember that a lot of good people have been hurting for a long time. The Republican party has done so much to further the needs of the greedy in hurting America. We can’t afford any mercy, moderation or mistakes.
Send ‘em to hell.
B.J.
You don’t believe in God? But you believe in Hell?
We love you too Pal.
bj your hatred is unbelievable. Do you really think the messiah will magically fix everything? You are blinded by your hatred.
“. Do you really think the messiah will magically fix everything?”
With your phrasing, you betray your OWN hatred raptor.
The chief fault I find in Obama is he thinks there is something redeeming or worthy or workable in you cons.
I don’t see it.
Well, here we go..
A Repeat of 2004 Philly Voter Chaos, Fraud
Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 7:46 AM
EXCLUSIVE, DEVELOPING–
GOP Election Board members have been tossed out of polling stations in more than half a dozen polling stations in Philadelphia because of their party status.
A liberal judge previously ruled that court-appointed poll watchers could be NOT removed from their boards by an on-site election judge, but that is exactly what is happening.
It is the duty of election board workers to monitor and guard the integrity of the voting process.
Denying access to the minority (in this case Republican) poll watchers and inspectors is a violation of Pennsylvania state law. Those who violate the law can be punished with a misdemeanor subject to a fine of $1,000 and prison of between one month and two years.
Those on site as describing it as “pandemonium” and there may be video coming of the chaos.
Some of the precincts where Republicans have been removed are: the 44th Ward, 12th and 13th divisions; 6th Ward, 12th division; 32nd Ward, Division 28.
“Election board officials guard the legitimacy of the election process and the idea that Republicans are being intimidated and banned for partisan purposes does not allow for an honest and open election process,” said McCain-Palin spokesman Ben Porritt in a statement to Townhall.
The City of Brotherly Love was roiled in controversy during the 2004 election because of rigged voting machines that showed nearly 2,000 votes for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry before the polls had opened. A man also used a gun to intimidate poll workers at Ward 30, division 11 in 2004.
My phrasing? Let’s see…the title of ‘messiah’ was bestowed on him by that “paragon of tolerance”, Louis Farrakhan. It wasn’t my word..but his.
Where did I exhibit even 1/10th the venom that you do with your statement “send ‘em to hell”?
“can’t afford any mercy, moderation or mistakes”? Wow…are you now quoting Adolph? What is next, gas chambers for anyone who dares to think differently?
Your hatred is unbelievable.
“Your hatred is unbelievable.”
Says the man who KNOWS his party and ideology are about to lose big.
Ask for mercy. Don’t negotiate for it. After years of the rule of you and your party, I for one don’t feel particularly diplomatic.
Big turnout on the south side. 30 minute wait to vote at 6:30 this morning. Plenty of shiny young faces standing inline.
What BJ just doesn’t get is that we are all in the same boat. We can and do disagree on the course of the boat. It is obvious, but if Obama wins and turns out to be a good president, we all benefit. And vice versa. The government cannot discriminate for or against citizens based on their political party.
An election result or a politician does not empower you. You must do that yourself.
Dear Wingnuts,
America hates you and your failed “conservative” ideology. Today we get to see how much.
And now, if you’ll excuse him, CF2K is off to find whoever may be trying to keep American citizens from exercising their right to vote.
May God bless the United States of America, and its People.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._H._Boetcker
Raptor don’t be sucha lemming. THat quote was not Abe Lincoln’s.
If there is actual voter fraud from either party, I hope that someone actually deals with it this time. I want fair elections, and there are serious problems with those voting machines. I won’t use them.
P-Mom,
“Lemming”; too funny.
And then there’s outlander, who tries to be a snake but only gets to worm.
CF2K: Have a nice day doing your important job. Don’t let anyone cut in line.
What a fake.
“What BJ just doesn’t get is that we are all in the same boat.”
Why do I have the feeling your boat is more comfortable than mine?
Interesting isn’t it?
The cons are all about every man for himself.
Until it looks like they are gonna lose. THEN they want to get all communal.
Raptor,
I will glad to see “chumps” like you marginalized. Such is loooonnnnngggg overdue.
fleettwood
Posted November 4, 2008 at 7:13 am | Permalink
chest tight arm numb
*****
Don’t worry fletty, everything is okay. Our country is doing the right thing. for the first time, in your life time. Please stay home and don’t trouble those people at the E.R. They are busy and have more important things to do – like saving humans.
Several years back, my dad temporarily went blind in one eye, and it turned out to be a minor stroke. He was not noticeably impaired afterwards, but it was scary nonethless.
Go see a doctor, Regular, as soon as you can.
The real choice in this election of who you are and what you are distills down to its pure essence in just this:
Your only choice is whether you define your philosophy by a conscious, rational, disciplined process of thought and scrupulously logical deliberation – a typical Republican.
Or you let your subconscious accumulate a junk heap of lying promises, unwarranted conclusions, false generalizations, undefined contradictions, undigested slogans, unidentified wishes, doubts and fears, thrown together by chance, but integrated by your subconscious into a kind of mongrel philosophy and fused into a single, solid weight: self-doubt, like a bail and chain in the place where your mind’s wings should have grown – a typical Democrat.
Just for laughs…
Three men – a Canadian farmer, Osama bin Laden and a
White Trash Biker are all walking together one day.
They come across a lamp and a Genie pops out of it.
‘I will give each of you one wish, which is three wishes in total’,
says the Genie.
The Canadian says, ‘I am a farmer and my son will also farm. I want the land to be forever fertile in Canada ‘
POOF! With the blink of the Genie’s eye, the land in Canada was forever fertile for farming.
Osama was amazed, so he said, ‘I want a wall around Afghanistan, Palestine, Iraq and Iran so that no infidels, Americans or Canadians
can come into our precious land.’
POOF! Again, with the blink of the Genie’s eye, there was a huge wall around those countries.
The Biker says, ‘I am very curious.
Please tell me more about this wall.’
The Genie explains, ‘Well, it’s about 5,000 feet high, 5oo feet thick and completely surrounds the country. Nothing can get in or out;
it’s virtually impenetrable.’
The Biker sits down on his Harley, cracks a beer, lites a cigar,
smiles and says,
‘Fill it with water.’
“Or you let your subconscious accumulate a junk heap of lying promises, unwarranted conclusions, false generalizations, undefined contradictions, undigested slogans, unidentified wishes, doubts and fears, thrown together by chance, but integrated by your subconscious into a kind of mongrel philosophy and fused into a single, solid weight: self-doubt, like a bail and chain in the place where your mind’s wings should have grown – a typical Democrat.”
This sounds like a very good description of the last 8 years. Thanks! See ya George.
“I still wish I were casting my vote for Hillary today.”
Me too.
Let Barack Obama and his supporters be worthy of what we have given up for him and them. Unity and working together is fine and there ARE redeemable cons.
But let’s have no compromise. They didn’t. We don’t have to either.
This sounds like a very good description of the last 8 years. Thanks! See ya George.
. . .and, go ahead, let the door hit you in the a*ss. I’ll enjoy the schadenfreude.
By the George, enjoy your retirement to Crawford. Next stop: prison.
I showed up at the polls at about 5:55. The line extended into the parking lot.
Be afraid, John. Be very afraid!
This should be a most interesting day… Fortunately, I have plenty of errands to run, so wont have to sit home biting my nails, and wondering if voting machines are working properly, etc., etc.
Have a nice day all!! Cya later!!
Welcome to the Big Dance!
Rage,
“Next stop: prison”
From your lips to god’s ears!
And JR?
” The cons are all about every man for himself.
Until it looks like they are gonna lose. THEN they want to get all communal.”
Right on the money JR. Right on the money.
And as for bigotbox… heheheheh.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Pitiful. Just pitiful.
And Heckie? Hehehhehe. BOO!!!!!
We’re coming to get your women and your guns….
The Prez: “Ya’ll be sure to votify by electificaion, ’specially every chance ya git!”
Are they calling it for Obama yet?
StevenEDavis
Posted November 4, 2008 at 6:35 am | Permalink
America has changed. Get used to it Republican chumps, or get left behind.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/03/AR2008110302609.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Already know which way, you’ll go…
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You’re suggesting that Republicans vote against Obama is racially motivated?
Here is where I hoped to have a lot of high and motivational rhetoric.
But I think it isn’t needed.
Our poor country and so many of its people are hurting because of what Republicans have done. Hope is about all me and many people have left. So I HOPE those long lines at the polls are made up of people who have had enough of Republicans. I HOPE America is ready to suffer a little collectively for the common good. I HOPE we are going to get about making America better. I HOPE it may be found in some who have so much to have some thought to those who have less, or nothing. I HOPE America may strive to be the place that John F Kennedy spoke of where the strong are just and the weak secure and the peace preserved.
I HOPE America’s best days are ahead of us and not the stuff I tell my son I read about in a history book.
My father-in-law doesn’t have center vision in one eye, think he has macular degeneration. Believe there is a treatment for one form, don’t remember if it is the dry, or wet type.
Walked into Temple Emanu-El at 7:20 and out at 7:30. Took another 3 minutes to complete an exit poll.
Very nicely organized.
To the election workers in that East Wichita location, Nice Job. :)
Polls are tight in Florida, PA and Ohio. Might be a long night.
Stories you won’t find on the WE blog.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/us/politics/04palin.html?bl&ex=1225947600&en=619f33f7ae064dcc&ei=5087
Glad I caught you well and about before I have to go farmgrrl. That’s as good a kickstart on the day as I could hope for.
I saw Ralph Nader on the tube and felt a little bad. But, under the circumstances, I can’t say I regretted my vote at all.
BlueJay
Posted November 4, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink
Send ‘em to hell.
CF2K
Posted November 4, 2008 at 7:47 am | Permalink
America hates you and your failed “conservative” ideology.
BlueJay
Posted November 4, 2008 at 8:04 am | Permalink
Why do I have the feeling your boat is more comfortable than mine?
StevenEDavis
Please stay home and don’t trouble those people at the E.R. They are busy and have more important things to do – like saving humans.
All the hate and vitriol. Worried about what someone else has.
All on the day when you should be PROUD to be an American and exercise your freedom. I guess some will never get it.
re:”My father-in-law doesn’t have center vision in one eye, think he has macular degeneration. Believe there is a treatment for one form, don’t remember if it is the dry, or wet type.”
My vision doctor prescribed Bosh & Lomb Preservion vitamins . It is the only medication that has shown to slow or stop macular degeneration.
Hey Farmie,
You hit the button for Cynthia? How’d your procedure go? I don’t know a damn thing about it, just saw a poster mention it yesterday. You OK?
From your lips to god’s ears!
One can hope, anyway, KFG. But then, some people think God® is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Republican party.
My plan for tonight-
Preparing for the worst. Hoping for the best.
My plan for tonight-
Booze.
Sol…you missed one:
“I will glad to see “chumps” like you marginalized. Such is loooonnnnngggg overdue.”
so…now anyone who has a different political opinion is a ‘chump’.
Such massive hatred is incomprehensible to me.
All the hate and vitriol.
After the past eight years, it’s understandable. But I agree it will be no way to govern.
Worried about what someone else has.
Uhm . . riiight.
Again…crooked, voter fraudulent, despicable, law breaking Dimocrats.
A Repeat of 2004 Philly Voter Chaos, Fraud
Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 7:46 AM
EXCLUSIVE, DEVELOPING–
http://townhall.com/blog/g/cf47766b-5a6d-44ab-95e7-ce60631bcadc
GOP Election Board members have been tossed out of polling stations in at least half a dozen polling stations in Philadelphia because of their party status.
A Pennsylvania judge previously ruled that court-appointed poll watchers could be NOT removed from their boards by an on-site election judge, but that is exactly what is happening.
It is the duty of election board workers to monitor and guard the integrity of the voting process.
Denying access to the minority (in this case Republican) poll watchers and inspectors is a violation of Pennsylvania state law. Those who violate the law can be punished with a misdemeanor and subjected to a fine of $1,000 and sent to prison between one month and two years.
Those on site are describing the situation as “pandemonium” and there may be video coming of the chaos.
Some of the precincts where Republicans have been removed are: the 44th Ward, 12th and 13th divisions; 6th Ward, 12th division; 32nd Ward, Division 28.
“Election board officials guard the legitimacy of the election process and the idea that Republicans are being intimidated and banned for partisan purposes does not allow for an honest and open election process,” said McCain-Palin spokesman Ben Porritt in a statement to Townhall.
The City of Brotherly Love was roiled in controversy during the 2004 election because of rigged voting machines that showed nearly 2,000 votes for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry before the polls had opened. A man also used a gun to intimidate poll workers at Ward 30, division 11 in 2004.
Who could ever have thought their could be such fraud in the U.S…..damn Dimocrats.
Worried about what someone else has.
Uhm . . riiight.
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would pissed or jealous been a better choice of words?
ANTI
Posted November 4, 2008 at 8:52 am | Permalink
My plan for tonight-
Booze.
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that will be among items being stocked in the basement. LOL.
would pissed or jealous been a better choice of words?
The word in my mind right now is “delusional.”
“Hey Farmie,
How’d your procedure go? I don’t know a damn thing about it, just saw a poster mention it yesterday. You OK?”
—SolDevVB
I don’t know anything about it either but I do know it wasn’t a lobotomy as she doesn’t have a brain…well nothing bigger than a chicken’s brain.
Hey Rage,
Turn that frown upside down!
Rage
Posted November 4, 2008 at 8:53 am | Permalink
Worried about what someone else has.
Uhm . . riiight
Rage,
Did you miss this from BlueJay?
Why do I have the feeling your boat is more comfortable than mine?
He is on here daily bitching that he doesn’t have and someone else does. He wants it handed to him because having a job is evil and provides for evil people. Are you new to the blog or what? Haven’t you read capn’s rants?
What the world can celebrate today is a president elect to replace bush! What a long, miserable time since he took office. He and his are snakes in the grass so bear watching until he can actually be kicked out of town, but today is a good first step.
Weather looks good in most of the country, the mid-Atlantic states have a bit of precipitation — hope that doesn’t slow anyone down.
Wouldn’t it be great if voter apathy was defeated!?
KFG
“We’re coming to get your women and your guns….”
heheheheheeh.
Joke would be on you. Make sure your insurance is paid up. My “women” would put you in the hospital. And they wouldnt need guns to do it.
Or will you have Obama’s Civilian National Defense League doing your dirty work for you?
It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings…
“Or will you have Obama’s Civilian National Defense League doing your dirty work for you?”
Right….like Hitler’s ‘civil police’!
Box and Heckler,
Don’t let the hate spread brothers. No need for it.
“A rising tide lifts all boats”
John Kennedy
Turn that frown upside down!
I’m doing fine, ANTI! How are you today?
“Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway”
-John Wayne
Sol
“Don’t let the hate spread brothers”
No hate, I just like to give fair warning to witless people.
The real hate will be seen tomorrow if Republicans turn out and McCain wins this thing by a handfull of electoral votes. Then you will see hate.
“Capitalism should not be condemned, since we haven’t had capitalism. ”
Ron Paul
“Deficits mean future tax increases, pure and simple. Deficit spending should be viewed as a tax on future generations, and politicians who create deficits should be exposed as tax hikers. ”
Ron Paul
“Having federal officials, whether judges, bureaucrats, or congressmen, impose a new definition of marriage on the people is an act of social engineering profoundly hostile to liberty. ”
Ron Paul
An election result or a politician does not empower you. You must do that yourself.
YES WE CAN
“When the federal government spends more each year than it collects in tax revenues, it has three choices: It can raise taxes, print money, or borrow money. While these actions may benefit politicians, all three options are bad for average Americans. ”
Ron Paul
No way. No how. NO McCain.
It takes a village.
Senator Hillary Clinton
Begining Jan 20th, 2009, I shall begin each day with the following post –
“Don’t blame me, I voted for Ron Paul.”
No matter if Obama or McCain wins, we all lose.
Your only choice is whether you define your philosophy by a conscious, rational, disciplined process of thought and scrupulously logical deliberation – a typical Republican.
Boxlock, it would be easier to agree with your comment if McCain had stuck to the issues. Rational? How rational is believing someone who has spent 20 years attending a Christian church (of which you and others disapprove of) is a Muslim? If that’s your example of “disciplined process of thought and scrupulously logical liberation”, you have a long way to go.
“The government can’t make you a better person, it can’t make you follow good habits. Why don’t they put you on a diet, you’re a little overweight… ”
Ron Paul
My, my –
But CONs of WE Blog seem particularly cranky today, don’t they?
And not a one of them has expressed any concern or empathy for one of their own who may be experiencing a major medical crisis. One we “vilest of the vile” liberals responded. And to “Regular,” of all people.
We’re a bunch of bleeding hearts, I guess.
And the CONs can do nothing but hurl insults and recycle lies.
For one type of macular degeneration, I believe I read last yr. there’s an injection that can be shot into the eye, that has had good success for one of the types of degeneration, doesn’t work on the other.
Yes we can! Change!
Did you see the video of the lady who is happy because Obama is going to put gas in her car and take care of her mortgage?
A lot of folks are in for a rude awakening when the new wears off and reality hits home. They don’t realize that politics is about promising the moon and delivering cheese.
But the great thing is that this country is still about opportunity to succeed for you and yours.
Which reminds me that, thankfully, I have work to do.
The first 100 days for the winning candidate? Buyer’s remorse. Bank on it.
REgular-
If you are still here, don’t screw around. GO TO THE ER IMMEDIATELY!! Better, yet, have someone take you. LIke calling the ambulance!!!!! NOW!Take care
mh is whining already:
And the CONs can do nothing but hurl insults and recycle lies.
While it is people like bj saying “send em to hell” and CF saying “America hates you” and steven accusing anyone who disagrees with him as ‘chumps’.
WHO is hurling the insults mh???
Phantom
Posted November 4, 2008 at 9:19 am | Permalink
For one type of macular degeneration, I believe I read last yr. there’s an injection that can be shot into the eye, that has had good success for one of the types of degeneration, doesn’t work on the other.
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I have a family member that has had the injections, they worked rather well.
Snipe all you want, outlander. I don’t expect anyone, Republican or Democrat, to give me anything except opportunity. I haven’t seen that for the past eight years. If you have, then good for you. But ask yourself if opportunity is using the backs of others.
Out…
I didn’t see that video, but I did hear the .wav file of Howard Stern on the street asking people about their votes. People saying they will vote for Obama because of his positions. When asked if it bothers them that he is 72, they say no. When asked if they are concerned about Palin being his vice president, the answer was no. When asked if it bothered them how he said we would be in Iraq for 100 years, the answer was no.
Yep…issues voting in the purest sense….
BlueJay
Posted November 4, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink
No way. No how. NO McCain.
It takes a village.
Senator Hillary Clinton
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“Blame it on the rain”
-Milli Vanilli
to give me anything except opportunity. I haven’t seen that for the past eight years. If you have, then good for you. But ask yourself if opportunity is using the backs of others.
That is a shame Pre. I have started a small business that is keeping my family afloat. It is far from the backs of others. Pretty much my back.
If I were to have employees, and they too were able to keep their families afloat on their pay, is that “on the backs of others?” I would feel more like I was helping them.
I have also aquired 4 domains that are doing OK.
What opportunity were you not afforded?
Another day, another bombing in Iraq.
Play Video Video: Early votes in, candidates try to seal the deal AP Play Video Video: McCain campaign moves through Pennsylvania AP Play Video Video: View From Iraq FOX News AP – Two U.S. helicopters fly over Baghdad, Iraq, on Tuesday, Nov. 4, 2008. Bombs exploded at a bus station … BAGHDAD (Reuters) – Explosions killed at least 13 people in Baghdad on Tuesday, with one blast targeting a Shi’ite member of the first U.S.-backed Iraqi governing body.
A roadside blast exploded near a vehicle convoy carrying Ahmed al-Barak, one of 25 members of the interim Iraqi Governing Council set up following the 2003 invasion.
Tell me ANTI, does evading the draft 4-5 times to make movies about how to be a hero (and a bundle of cash) too, really make Marion Morressey a sposkemsman for courage? Lots of “stars” might have got deferrements but volunteered and went to serve their countries anyway. How this guy got hero status confounds me, but then hype is everything in someplaces.It’s like Lucifer telling you to say your prayers…..good message, but it just doesn’t sound right, coming from the Devil.
Won’t have to worry about putting gas in the car when Obama gives us an electric car!
sursum-
It was just a quote. To be honest I was fond of his characters more so than the man. But blow it out of proportion if you must.
I believe Dead eye Dick evaded the draft 4or 5 times, and now he’s bush foreign policy expert.
sursum- Marion also hated horses.
when Obama gives us an electric car!
Really? Where do I sign up for a free electric car? Was that in his campaign? That is the first I heard of Obama giving everyone an electric car.
Outstanding. The Ford is getting a little old.
#
Phantom
Posted November 4, 2008 at 9:36 am | Permalink
Won’t have to worry about putting gas in the car when Obama gives us an electric car!
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That’s right Phantom. And a pony too.
Now go on back to sleep.
I want a 4×4 electric truck, can Obama give me that?
Correction:
I want a 4×4 electric truck that runs a 13 second 1/4, can Obama give me that?
want a 4×4 electric truck that …
That will pull my electric bass boat :-D
Can I have an electric bass boat (and trailer) too????
Sol,
Yes We Can!!
Sol, good for you! To answer your question, no, I do not believe that if you had employees you would be doing it on the backs of others. I also didn’t accuse outlander of the same. It was only a reminder, not an accusation.
Let’s just say that my timing to go it alone wasn’t the best in mid-2000, considering all that’s happened economically in this country since then. I’m doing okay, too, but it could be better and that IS related to the economy.
This isn’t just about me, but about everyone. We DO need change, because the path this country has been on is one of destruction…for all.
I just want my golf cart filled with Titleist ProV1s and an endless supply of margaritas.
And a steady stream of Jimmy Buffett…
Cabo, here I come!
(It’s already electric) Our club doesn’t allow “noisy” golf carts. :)
sursum, it’s Marion Morrison. Took me a while to figure out who you were talking about.
Maybe Anti should’ve gone with FDR’s “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” ;)
No ponies, didn’t you hear? We all get rainbow farting unicorns.
the path this country has been on is one of destruction…for all.
Agreed.
What troubles me about an Obama administration with a Liberal majority in both houses and possibly 2 SCOTUS seats;
Look at Michigan Pre. We have had Granholm for the past what? 7 years? She raised taxes on a down trending economy. She raised unseen taxes on a lot of industry- the cost to register a trucking trailer increased 4X. The Secretary of State BEGGED her to back that off as over 50% of the trailers went unregistered. They either went bankrupt or moved out of state.
Granholm is on line with Obama’s views, for the most part. I know it didn’t work for us and we have a Conservative majority state house. What will happen with no checks or balances under a … can’t think of a term and don’t mean this as derogatory – hard line liberal? Even if Obama wants to be more moderate, odds are that the congress won’t let him.
Obama has promised a lot. Will the congress hold him to that?
“rainbow farting unicorns”
Heckler, you made me spit coffee on my keyboard!
“rainbow farting unicorns”
Heckler, you made me spit coffee on my keyboard!
My boss asked what I was laughing at…
Predestined
Posted November 4, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink
sursum, it’s Marion Morrison. Took me a while to figure out who you were talking about.
Maybe Anti should’ve gone with FDR’s “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” ;)
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Pre, I’ll stick with the John Wayne quote. Besides it is common knowledge that Marion was his ‘vagified’ alter ego.
like a backwater 3rd world country…
At the Math and Science Center in Richmond, Virginia, an early breakdown of electronic voting machines led to a three-and-a-half hour wait to vote on Tuesday morning, according to one poll watcher.
“Some people have been here since 6 a.m., and the first voters are just finishing now,” said Judith Browne-Dianis, adding that the Richmond location she was watching did not even have backup paper ballots in case of machine malfunction.
“They didn’t even have the paper ballots required by state law,” she said. “That’s not even something we were supposed to have to ask for. I went inside and asked the polling judge, and he said ‘we don’t have ‘em. They [the Board of Elections] were supposed to give ‘em to us, and they didn’t.’”
Well, the national election will be what it will be. Unfortunatly here in Kansas we don’t have a lot of effect on who will be the president.
Locally, I do have some hope for some of the candidates.
Personally, I will probably win as a member of the Lake Waltanna Improvement District as a write in candidate again. I didn’t start my extensive campaign until last week. (talked to a few neighbors and told them to write me in again) Everyone I talked to had already voted in advance and they said they wrote my name in.
Next, I hope Dan Kerschen wins as the state rep. I don’t know the democrat running against him, but Dan is a very good man.
Our state senate race will be close, but I believe Kelsey will win. I don’t know the democrat off hand that is running against him but she got my vote. Kelsey is a crook.
For county commissioner I voted for Marcy Gregory. My wife voted for Peterjohn, I think. I like Marcy a lot. Good common sense and I think she’ll do a good job. I like Peterjohn too, if he wins it will be a fun next four years.
Judges, I voted for Mangana. Anyone that has a name ending in a vowel gets my vote. Also, I voted for Sharon Dickgrafe. She’s been a city attorney for several years and she’s a very good lady. She’s runnig against Bruce Brown and he’s a little too wierd for my vote.
Of course I voted for Roberts. Slattery? Give me a break! He comes back to Kansas every four or eight years and runs for something. What a nitwit.
Tiahrt is a friend and neighbor. The democrats seem to have given up on trying to win the 4th Congressional District this year. Betts seems to be a good man but he didn’t get much DNC support.
All in all, it will be a very interesting election day. I hope most of the candidates that you voted for win!
For all of those wondering…
Not knowing the answer, I called the Office of Elections in Hawaii. Kevin Cronin, chief election officer for the state, just got back to me. Here’s what he said:
Ms. Dunham’s absentee mail ballot was received and reviewed under the Hawaii standards for processing absentee mail ballots… She was alive at that time. Her ballot will be opened tomorrow, and it will be counted in the same way that all absentee voters would be treated under our law.The key point appears to be that Ms. Dunham was alive at the time her absentee ballot was received and reviewed, and that it met the standards for review at that time.
Madelyn Dunham’s vote will count, even if she is not here to learn the final tally.
http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/11/will_marilyn_dunhams_vote_count
Why didn’t the Eagle make an endorsement for president?? They endorsed all of the other races.
He comes back to Kansas every four or eight years and runs for something. What a nitwit.
Couldn’t the same be said for Roberts and Tiarht?
Personally, I will probably win as a member of the Lake Waltanna Improvement District as a write in candidate again.
You might think about a guvanotorial or presidential run, sounds as impressive as being mayor of Wasilla!
“Couldn’t the same be said for Roberts and Tiarht?”
No, not really.
Hee hee hee heeeee….
“Can I have an electric bass boat (and trailer) too????”
That always reminds me of the fisherman who placed a personals ad that read “looking for friendship, maybe more, with a woman who owns a bass boat. PLEASE send picture of boat”.
Hehehehhe.
Except in my case, it’s “looking for love with a woman who owns a big tractor. Please send picture of tractor”.
HA!
Sanford
Posted November 4, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink
Why didn’t the Eagle make an endorsement for president?? They endorsed all of the other races.
Because both major party candidates suck and are not worth stooping to vote for.
VOte independent or, vote for “NONE OF THE ABOVE”
“You might think about a guvanotorial or presidential run, sounds as impressive as being mayor of Wasilla!”
Thanks, Phantom!
I have so many skeletons that I had to have and addition to my house! A closet is way too small!
Watch the youth vote today. As predicted, it hasnt really materialized in big numbers like obama hoped. Maybe they’ll all turn out today, but if they vote in traditional numbers, it will be a non factor. Just like it was when Al Gore counted on it.
I think obama has enough momentum to win without the big youth numbers. At least I hope so, since Cynthia McKinney likely wont be our next preznit. Too bad….
“A closet is way too small!”
Funny thing Hank. I realized that about twenty years ago….
This time, Gov. Sarah Palin can claim vindication against allegations that she abused her power in office by firing her public safety commissioner.
Palin – running mate of Republican presidential candidate John McCain – violated no ethics laws, according to a report released by the state personnel board on the eve of Election Day. An earlier, separate investigation by the Legislature found that Palin had abused her office.
“There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters,” the personnel board’s report said.”
Marion was his ‘vagified’ alter ego.
Sorry, Anti, I’m not familiar with the word ‘vagified’. Definition?
liljohn~ while your opinion of the candidates may or may not be accurate, I doubt it has anything to do with the lack of an endorsement.
Am I the only one who noticed?? Whats up with not endorsing, not taking a stand??
Predestined
Posted November 4, 2008 at 10:29 am | Permalink
Marion was his ‘vagified’ alter ego.
Sorry, Anti, I’m not familiar with the word ‘vagified’. Definition?
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Candy ass.
Why didn’t the Eagle make an endorsement for president?? They endorsed all of the other races.
They will announce on Thursday morning. Didn’t you get the memo?
Pre, it’s of Scottish origin.
KFG, regarding the youth vote, maybe this will give you a small smile.
From Darthmouth College, a reader writes on The Daily Dish by Andrew Sullivan:
Those who are wondering if the youth will turn out ought to see what I saw this morning.
One well-known government professor here told me that she has never seen so many students vote in the first hour of voting as she saw this morning. And I’ve never seen so many students up and alert at this hour. They’re normally stumbling out of bed to make it to their 10 a.m. courses. Today, the campus has been buzzing for hours this morning. It appears that many of them decided to go to the polls as groups of twos, threes, fours and more when the polls opened at 7 a.m. The number of students I saw by 8 a.m. walking around with “I voted” stickers on is astonishing.
At breakfast, I sat next to a table of four black students, all of whom had voted. The three men were wearing ties. I asked them why. The answer: It was their first election, and they wanted to mark the occasion.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/
Candy ass.
Maybe I should have checked the Scottish Urban Dictionary? :)
Sol- post-endorsing keeps an undefeated record.
Has the Eagle ever NOT endorsed for President???
Predestined
Posted November 4, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink
Candy ass.
Maybe I should have checked the Scottish Urban Dictionary? :)
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Scottish Urban Dictionary Standard or SUDS….:)
Sanford-
I’ve been wondering also. I’d like the paper to help me decide. They were good enough to help me with Slattery and all the rest.
Posted November 4, 2008 at 9:14 am | Permalink
Begining Jan 20th, 2009, I shall begin each day with the following post –
“Don’t blame me, I voted for Ron Paul.”
No matter if Obama or McCain wins, we all lose.
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Amen!
“It is not we non-interventionists who are isolationists. The real isolationists are those who impose sanctions and embargos on countries and peoples across the globe and who choose to use force overseas to promote democracy. A counterproductive approach that actually leads the U.S. to be more resented and more isolated in the world. ”
Dr. Ron Paul
http://www.censusscope.org/us/chart_age.html
I couldn’t find a more recent population age distribution chart than this one from 2000. I doubt it has changed dramatically. When we’re looking at the youth turnout let’s compare it to the percent of population. So I know whether we’re on the same page, what is “youth?” Can you tell I’m s far removed from that group I don’t even know its definition? ;-)
Linda,
For me it’s anyone under 45
This will sound just like a bragging grandma (which I am as often as possible!) but the youth I am around are voting, and enthusiastic about it!
My oldest daughter’s hubby is a Republican. But he isn’t in favor of world domination or changing the Constitution to more closely follow the Bible, and is hoping his party will return to its better attributes. He voted for Obama. He tells me several members of his family (strong Republicans) did so also.
I’m still not able to relax, but remain cautiously optimistic.
I predict that there is a good chance of rioting in the streets tonight. Either out of exuberance, like after a sporting event, or out of anger. Neither makes any sense, but it happens. ANd I think it will happen tonight. Hope not
I agree LJ. It will be far worse if McCain wins however. But then again, whatever happens tonight will pale in comparison of 4+ years of Obama.
No matter who wins today –
1) Remember a very important thing: We will do, again, what so much of the world seems unable to do: We will change leaders, even change parties (it appears), and do so without tanks in the streets, without bombs or bullets. That is always a win. We have done so, now, for a very long time. We forget just how relatively rare, and very precious, that is.
2) Our institutions are strong enough to make an Obama presidency effective, or survive an Obama presidency, however you see it. This is neither the end of the world as we know it, nor the beginning of paradise. It’s just another election day in the Republic, which is much bigger than any candidate.
So: be you Republican or Democrat, celebrate the day. Personally, I cannot in good conscience vote for Obama; he simply isn’t prepared for the job, and philosophically I disagree with him in fundamental ways. However, the winner will be my, and OUR president, whether my (or your) candidate won or not. When I think he’s right, I’ll support him; when I think he’s wrong, oppose him. Either way, he has earned the right to make the decisions.
The institution, and the process, is more important than the person. And we are better than the hatred that both sides have been regularly spewing on this blog (and yes, my admittedly biased view is that it primarily comes from the left).
BTW – if you think this election has been dirty, do a little history reading; especially the election of 1828. We ain’t seen nothin.
How absurd.
Since the mid 1990’s the Republicans has control of Congress until 2 years ago.
For the last 8 years we have had a Republican President.
Did you liberals get used to it? Did you get left behind? Did you accept that the country had moved to the right and give up on your liberal cause?
Of course not. Here we are a decade later and things have shifted slightly.
Yet you liberals sit here calling for us Conservatives to give up, prepare to be left behind, etc…etc…etc…
The simple fact is that more people are probably less inclined to reward the Republicans over their frustrations with them than they are moving left and truly support the Democrats.
We Conservatives will continue to be conservatives and support our cause.
Even if the left wins today that is not the end of Conservatives as we know it. It is merely one election. We will have another both 2 and 4 years from now.
Maggotpunk,
Are you so insecure in your belief of Evolution that in order to support it you must tear down Creation?
Once again, The truth or validity of Evolution is not proved by disproving Creation. Neither is Creation proved by disproving Evolution.
Yet whenever you get defensive about Evolution you attack Creation.
At least you are not calling Evolution an irrefutable fact anymore. You are capable of learning after all. Congratulations.
Focus on the Family: Rapture Preparedness Pamphlet
Dear Member of the Fellowship,
Focus on the Family wanted to write and inform you that; The Africanized He-Demon is slithering ever closer to the presidency of what has become a Godless country of whores and sodomites; our country, the formerly, God Blessed, United States of America. Each day he unhinges his jaw and swallows more and more Electoral College votes; devouring counties and states that were once full of God’s Warriors. These bastions of false righteousness have been willingly fooled by his forked tongue; the tongue that marks him as the Serpent King.
As you know, through your individual Ministries, this means that The Rapture is finally at hand.
We here at Focus on the Family couldn’t be more excited and have decided to put out this pamphlet of useful items and helpful hints for the The Choosing. We want to make sure our members are the best prepared for the End Times, and can make it through the coming hell on earth, as comfortably as possible, before they are Called.
First, stay calm. As a member of Focus on the Family you are one of the chosen people, the real chosen people. James Dobson has spoken with our Heavenly Father and has been assured that God will pick you up in his celestial mini-van by no later than Friday at around 10 am, after which you will be dropped off at the pool of light, for an eternity of fun, friends and snacks. That means, at most you’ll only have to suffer through about 48 hours of the Angel of Darkness’s New World Order.
Since the streets will be flooded with legions of Black Satan’s, or (Blatan’s) undead liberal minions; Focus on the Family suggests that you stay in your homes until you hear Jesus honking. Try to think of fun activities for the entire family while you’re stuck indoors.
You could:
Listen to the entire LEFT BEHIND series on audio-book.
Take pot shots at the homosexual, Socialist, zombies, fornicating en masse on your front lawn, with your semi-automatic assault-rifle.
Have a sing-a-long
Make a Jello-Salad
Talk about how much better than your slowly burning neighbors you are.
Watch Nascar and Veggie-Tales.
Pray for Democrats and foreigners to suffer a painful Judgment.
The important thing is to keep occupied during The Fire. Idle hands are Obama’s workshop. Keep Duct-Tape and a few gallons of Mountain Dew on hand just in case.
If you have questions use the phone tree provided by your individual ministries. The one number and the most important number on all these phone trees is Kirk Cameron’s. He is the root of each phone tree but should be called only in case of emergency. Remember, Kirk Cameron has all the answers, and we should look to him for advice and guidance in all things personal and spiritual; or if Jesus is late picking us up. After all Kirk Cameron was on GROWING PAINS, he is a film and television superstar, who loves Jesus. He’s better than everyone else; twice over.
Finally, please remember that Focus on the Family has upped your monthly dues in light of the fact there will be no more months. Empty your bank account and get us the money by Wednesday night at the latest. Gas is not cheap. God is going to have to make a lot of trips, and the celestial mini-van has a monster tank to fill.
Please find an attached list of necessary items for eternity.
You’re right, you’re always right, and so are we.
Jenny White
Senior Communications Official
Focus on the Family
Eternity Supply List:
Wal-Mart Gift Card
Guns
Bibles
Sun-block
Swimsuit
Towel
A Hyman or Maidenhead (for the ladies only)
Night Vision Goggles
Meat
Please tell me the above is a spoof…
The one number and the most important number on all these phone trees is Kirk Cameron’s. He is the root of each phone tree but should be called only in case of emergency. Remember, Kirk Cameron has all the answer
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Ha! I figured ole’ Kirk would be found at the bottom of a bottle!
Anyone try CNN.com lately? Looks like their webmaster is asleep at the wheel.
Regular
Posted November 4, 2008 at 6:21 am | Permalink
Hmmm, think I’m going blind in my right eye. Can only see part of the screen. It’s like there is a big empty space in the middle of my right eye.
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Don’t worry about it, Reg. It’s probably nothing. No need to spend all that money going to a doctor. Just sit back and have a couple of cheeseburgers and watch the election results.
Looks like their webmaster is asleep at the wheel.
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He stepped out of the office to vote for change and hope and more change.
Please tell me the above is a spoof…
Yep. It’s at salon.com.
Of course it is a spoof.
That is not the actual list of items to have.
A great profile on Rachel Maddow from New York magazine –
http://nymag.com/news/media/51822/
Not my cup of tea Monkeyhawk, not my cup of tea.
I’m stunned, “ANTI” –
A bright, witty, provocative journalist who happens to be gay… and Rachel is “not your cup of tea?”
You could knock me over with a truck.
Anyone that has a name ending in a vowel gets my vote.
So, Hank, I take it you voted for ObamA. ;)
We should all be grateful that the Repubs only have control over the Admin.(which is bad enough), they demonstrated what sore losers they were last election, that a scorched earth policy would’ve been inevitable. Bush will try and screw up the admin. even more(if such a thing is possible) in his last two months.
So Phantom,
About the electric cars that Obama is going to give us…
Rifles stolen from south Wichita pawnshop
BY STAN FINGER
The Wichita Eagle
Someone stole several rifles from a south Wichita pawnshop early this morning.
The theft was noticed at 3:45 a.m. at Money Town Pawn Shop at 2425 S. Oliver, police said. The intruder forced his way into the door and then shattered several display cases containing gun boxes.
The handguns were locked away in a safe, but the thief or thieves did carry away numerous rifles, police reported.
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Anyone see Max lately?
That is not the actual list of items to have.
Are you saying there really IS a list of items to have?
Other than a love of Jesus, what else would one need to get into Heaven at Rapture time?
Predestined,
It was a joke.
Be careful talking about standards for getting into heaven though. You will upset MonkeyHawk, Chas, and CapnAmerica who think that there are no standards (Or are ignorant of them) for either being a Christian or going to heaven.
Anyone see Max lately?
He’s hiding under the bed with his shotgun.
That’s the trouble with CONs, especially of the twice-born variety.
When they claim to be joking it sounds like they’re serious.
And when they try to be serious, it’s a joke.
But, by all means, please accept the boy prophet “Nathaniel” was the one true judge of christianity, getting into heaven, and the will of God.
God would do it Himself if He had to, but why should He bother when “Nathaniel” is the self-ordained judge of the quick and the dead?
“No one enters the Kingdom of Heaven except through
Mesome washed-up ex-Marine.”Dear Phillip: MonkeyHawk thinks that you didn’t endorse a presidential candidate because you and Rhonda couldn’t agree on it. Is that true?
If so, you obviously need a clear thinking person to break your ties. I am available.
Regards,
outlander
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s&eurl=http://www.infowars.com/?p=5724
OBAMA’S POLICE STATE. USHER IN 1984!
OBAMA’S POLICE STATE. USHER IN 1984!
It’s worse that that. He’s working with the aliens!
Remember: “To serve man” was a cookbook!
P.S. By the way, do you know what the queers are doing to our soil?
Whatever dude. You’ll get your “Change”. But it’ll be the same that McCain offers.
But it’ll be the same that McCain offers.
Not really. It’ll be more like Clinton (hopefully better).
It was a joke.
That certainly eases my mind. I was really beginning to worry about you.
Good luck.
Ima write-in Ron Paul.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/polling/index.html
Holy Moly!
According to this interactive map, Kansas is more supportive of McSame than any other state in the Union except Idaho.
Are we dumb or what?
What’s the matter with Kansas, indeed.
Good for you, Pleefer. I’m a strong believer in the imporance of third parties.
Posted November 4, 2008 at 1:52 pm | Permalink
Good luck.
Ima write-in Ron Paul.
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Well He got at least 2 votes from KS
Thanks, CF2K!
I wish I were doing that too, but I couldn’t get away from work until 4 pm.
Our economy is dying. And will be tanked by the first of February. China wants paid and Obama’s brigade will make sure we pay up. Deal with it.
According to this interactive map, Kansas is more supportive of McSame than any other state in the Union except Idaho.
Are we dumb or what?
What’s the matter with Kansas, indeed.
I think many Kansans have a masochistic bent, the more someone abuses them, the more they love them.
CapnAmerica,
The part of “we” that you make up is dumb, yes.
This part of “we” doesn’t think that merely supporting John McCain OR Obama makes one dumb.
Today we test America’s collective IQ.
After 8 years of Bush, I think we’re all a little smarter . . .
Nathan–
I’m not the one who’s walking around with a handgun strapped to his side pretending to be “Dirty Harry.”
Don’t talk to me about “dumb.”
Rage
Posted November 4, 2008 at 1:44 pm | Permalink
P.S. By the way, do you know what the queers are doing to our soil?
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What the fuc…..Hey now, we didn’t have that problem out west!! Why did you give them shovels?
“What’s the matter with Kansas, indeed.”
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
some people should not have kids
Massachusetts ‘Gun Fair’ Where Child Was Killed With Machine Gun May Have Violated Gun Law
Last update: 5:03 p.m. EDT Oct. 28, 2008
WASHINGTON, Oct 28, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ — WASHINGTON, Oct. 28 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence is calling on law enforcement to investigate whether a “gun fair” that hosted a machine gun shoot for children where an 8-year-old boy was tragically killed violated a Massachusetts gun law that makes it illegal to furnish machine guns to children.
“Massachusetts law specifically prohibits furnishing a machine gun to any person under 18,” said Daniel Vice, Senior Attorney with the Brady Center. “It is unconscionable that the gun fair allowed and encouraged young children to fire machine guns.”
The relevant statute can be found in Massachusetts General Laws, Chapter 140, subsection 130 and provides that “whoever sells or furnishes any alien or any person under eighteen years of age a… machine gun or ammunition… shall be punished by a fine of not less than $1,000 nor more than $10,000, or by imprisonment in a state prison for not more than ten years or by imprisonment in a house of correction for not more than two and one-half years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.” (Emphasis added.)
Brady Center President Paul Helmke said the appropriate authorities should investigate whether to file charges against the operator of the Westfield, Massachusetts Sportsman’s Club’s annual “Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo,” where Christopher Bizilj of Ashford, Connecticut died Sunday. The club advertised that the “full auto rock & roll” was “legal and fun,” and that there was “no age limit or licenses required to shoot machine guns.”
“This needs to be looked at by the authorities and, if it is not illegal, then it should be made illegal. It’s tragic that this boy was killed because some people didn’t realize that eight-year-olds should not be allowed to shoot machine guns,” Helmke said. “Responsible gun owners should agree.”
The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence is a national non-profit organization working to reduce the tragic toll of gun violence in America, through education, research, and legal advocacy. The programs of the Brady Center complement the legislative and grassroots mobilization of its sister organization, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence with its dedicated network of Million Mom March Chapters.
Prediction time. Will Mccain give a concillatory concession speech this evening, or be bitter?
I think he’ll be concillatory, considering the great divide we’ve had for the past 8 yrs.
Oh, I have no intention of leaving any time in the near future, Am_Way.
There’s no place else where my doing so little irritates the right wing so much.
Man Parks Manure Near Democrats’ Campaign Office to Protest Obama
AP
Tuesday, November 04, 2008
BUTTE, Mont.–
Democrats are criticizing a 38-year-old man who parked a trailer load of manure across the street from Whitehall’s Democratic campaign office to protest presidential hopeful Barack Obama.
Terry Reed, who owns a construction and excavation company in Whitehall, parked the trailer near the office on Saturday. He also posted a sign in the manure mocking Obama’s “change we can believe in” slogan as “a load of crap.”
“I think Obama’s plan is just one big old poop sandwich and we’re all going to have to take a bite,” he said.
Suzanne Molyneaux, the Obama campaign’s election team leader in Whitehall, said traffic came to a near standstill as people stopped to take pictures of the trailer.
“People in Whitehall were upset, they were outraged,” she said. “I don’t think Whitehall should be represented as this podunk, ignorant community. There are lots of good people here.”
Reed said he doesn’t plan to move the trailer until after Election Day.
“My only regret is that I didn’t do something sooner,” he said.
AMoose–
Things you won’t read in “The American Rifleman” magazine . . .
No CapnAmerica,
You are the hypocritial idiot who claims he would defend his family with deadly force if needed while you are both unprepared to do so and mock others who are.
annie_moose
Posted November 4, 2008 at 2:10 pm | Permalink
some people should not have kids
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But the firing of a state trooper who used a tazer on his child (among other things) is not grounds for dismissal.
The wars will not end. And after the inaugural terrorist attack, they in fact, will escalate. Under Obama or McCain, the agenda is the same. Take off your rose colored glasses.
Sorry, Pleef. I know all about PNAC, and how much they were hoping for something like that to happen, but I don’t think 9-11 was “planned,” in the sense of bin Laden (still) working for the US.
Rest assured, if there’s a Jan. 20th attack, those of us who remember the zombie-like public response to 9-11 will be forcefully vocal, no matter who’s in the White House.
This is a hope I have,after the elections maybe we can stop being cons and libs and start being Americans again.
Mr_Kia posted November 4, 2008 at 2:20 pm
But the firing of a state trooper who used a tazer on his child (among other things) is not grounds for dismissal.
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Trooper Wooten was not fired. He was given a five-day suspension.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Public_Safety_Commissioner_dismissal#Taser_incident
“Although the Taser incident happened in 2003, it was not reported to police until on or after April 11, 2005, the day McCann filed for divorce. On June 6, 2005, a police investigator asked Bristol why they “waited so long and brought the incident up after two years.” Bristol said “because of the divorce.”[27]“
This is a hope I have,after the elections maybe we can stop being cons and libs and start being Americans again.
While that’s unlikely to happen, perhaps we can disagree without being disagreeable.
But not if the talking heads on TV and radio have anything to say about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
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Would this be voter intimindation?
We actually agree on something there Rage.
With the news already about voting “issues” today (these seem to get worse every Presidential cycle) we have a lot more problems that either of the candidates being elected.
If Americans lose faith in the election process, we (at least as a Democracy) are done.
But the firing of a state trooper who used a tazer on his child (among other things) is not grounds for dismissal.
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kia,
WTF does that have to do with some ahole who let’s his 8 year shoot a machine gun? The kid shot himself in the head.
moroon
Rage, I hope so.
okobserver
Posted November 4, 2008 at 2:47 pm | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
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Would this be voter intimindation?
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YES.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTtk4iXv_xY
It gets better.
“I’m sorry I had to fight in the middle of your Black Panther party.”
-Forrest Gump
Predestined; Thanks, it is Morrison, I know that, I just blew it. Too early and not enough coffee. Been out doing things since my blooper.
Rage,
That would be a good start.
annie_moose
Posted November 4, 2008 at 2:47 pm | Permalink
But the firing of a state trooper who used a tazer on his child (among other things) is not grounds for dismissal.
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kia,
WTF does that have to do with some ahole who let’s his 8 year shoot a machine gun? The kid shot himself in the head.
moroon
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On the contrary I think it’s the exact same thing if not worse.
Irresponsible parenting.
ANTI
Posted November 4, 2008 at 2:49 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted November 4, 2008 at 2:47 pm | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
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Would this be voter intimindation?
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Yes. But what really bothers me is could this be a portent of what could happen tonight if Obama doesn’t win?
Freebird1971
Posted November 4, 2008 at 2:54 pm | Permalink
ANTI
Posted November 4, 2008 at 2:49 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted November 4, 2008 at 2:47 pm | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
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Would this be voter intimindation?
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Yes. But what really bothers me is could this be a portent of what could happen tonight if Obama doesn’t win?
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If they are just standing around we’ll be lucky.
On the contrary I think it’s the exact same thing if not worse.
Irresponsible parenting.
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Thanks for clearing that up and making a lame political statement at the same time.
Remembering the exuberance of even winners in sporting events I’m fearful of what will happen nationwide if he wins.
So win or lose it could be bad.
So win or lose it could be bad.
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Why?
Would this be voter intimindation?
We don’t know. Was anyone stopped or harassed? Was anyone questioned, other than the people taking footage?
I agree that this “security” operation is unusual (and, from what’s I’ve seen so far, limited to one precinct), but I’d like to see more than the implication that scary black men will frighten people from voting.
Cnn was doing a phone interview with Joe T.P., he sounded like the typical repub. you’d find in ks.
Worried about the guy that makes over 250 k, because of ‘principal’ (he said look it up, you’d find that just because someone worked harder or got good breaks and was rich, they shouldn’t have to pay more taxes, cited Websters no less as the source).
I’m amazed that he’d have any influence on a rational voter.
He also asked why they were asking him tough personal questions, he’s just a private citizen. Interviewer told him he gave up that position when he endorsed mccain.
Joe told the interviewer to ask him what he was going to do now (looking to plug something), interviewer didn’t ask. Waaaaaah
Joe’s 15 min is up.
Rage,
2 men in military like dress, one carrying a club, and both members of a group involved historically with violence, standing in front of a polling venue, constitutes intimidation.
ANTI – based on your description I would have to agree with you.
2 men in military like dress, one carrying a club, and both members of a group involved historically with violence, standing in front of a polling venue, constitutes intimidation.
To what end?
annie_moose
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
So win or lose it could be bad.
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Why?
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I think there is a very real possibility of violence. Why? Because there seems to be a very large number of people who have no respect for the property of others. A football team wins a big game, the hometown starts a huge street celebration. Someone starts turning over cars, the fun begins. Same possibility exists here.
If Obama loses, as has been stated here, the only way it could happen was if it was “stolen”.
THere are many that would retaliate in the street.
Just my opinion. And for the record, I hope I am wrong.
I’d like to know the ethnic make-up of the area that the Panthers were stationed.
One (a Republican or any citizen for instance) is not allowed to where political buttons, etc. into polling places, so McCain voters should not have been intimidated.
If the Panthers were stationed in an attempt to keep black people from being intimidated from leaving the voting place, it sounds more like paranoia on the case of that community.
Rage, would it be different if the two men were Hell’s Angles or wearing white sheets and pointy hats? Would that be intimidation? Scary white men…
To what end?
Had they been skin heads… We’d never hear the end of it.
But since they apparently support Obama, all is well.
Nathan insists that “I am unprepared” to protect my family with deadly force.
Really, tough guy?
I wouldn’t test that theory if I were you . . .
Oh, yea, he was asked about the hospital that was trying to collect unpaid bill, apparently poor ol’ Joe doesn’t have coverage either. No wonder he’s against Obama!
Why would the Black Panthers patrol a precinct? Think about it. To keep people from voting?
Or to make surre that people get to vote?
Look, if they’re messing with people, then someone should call the police. There might even be laws against public display of a baton, who knows?
But is the implication, then, that Obama supporters see an “all clear” and McCain supporters run away? How would they even know?
littlejohn
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:08 pm | Permalink
annie_moose
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
So win or lose it could be bad.
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Why?
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I think there is a very real possibility of violence. Why? Because there seems to be a very large number of people who have no respect for the property of others. A football team wins a big game, the hometown starts a huge street celebration. Someone starts turning over cars, the fun begins. Same possibility exists here.
If Obama loses, as has been stated here, the only way it could happen was if it was “stolen”.
THere are many that would retaliate in the street.
Just my opinion. And for the record, I hope I am wrong.
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I think without question there will be rioting if Obama is defeated. This would come back on the media who has everything short of called the election for him. In most Obama supporters minds there is only one way he can lose, fraud (or stolen election.).
Maybe it was a repub. area and they were just trying to provide a sense of security to the black voters. Like in Iraq when the military took to the streets during the election.
Had they been skin heads… We’d never hear the end of it.
Point taken. Someone call the police.
Problem solved.
Phantom
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:10 pm | Permalink
Oh, yea, he was asked about the hospital that was trying to collect unpaid bill, apparently poor ol’ Joe doesn’t have coverage either. No wonder he’s against Obama!
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Well it’s Joe’s decision to be a skilled craftsman not covered by a union.
Are the Panthers considered a political group and does their presence constitute politicing at the voting place?
Maybe it was a repub. area and they were just trying to provide a sense of security to the black voters.
Quite the acrobatics. Again, had they been skin heads.
And again, Phantom, where is the sign up sheet for the electric cars Obama is going to give us?
Are the Panthers considered a political group and does their presence constitute politicing at the voting place?
I don’t know. Is the Black Panther Party fielding any candidates this year?
Off the subject a bit…
But does anyone know why the KKK chose the pointy hat as a part of the uniform….I would have thought during the deciding meeting someone would have stood up and said, “Hey, that is the most ridiculous shape for a hat! Henry, I bet that was your idea!”.
It was the face of intimidation to me. Whatever their color. The pressence of a weapon in his hand was a threat. No color – simply the weapon. Others put the racial comments in.
As for the riots. Who doesn’t remember the hometowns of winning teams where widespread damages to personal property was done. Cars burned, windows broken, people hurt, etc…. I hope it doesn’t but the potential is there.
Rage political organizations and political parties are two different things.
As for the riots. Who doesn’t remember the hometowns of winning teams where widespread damages to personal property was done. Cars burned, windows broken, people hurt, etc…. I hope it doesn’t but the potential is there.
Did that happen in 2004?
ANTI
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:19 pm | Permalink
Off the subject a bit…
“But does anyone know why the KKK chose the pointy hat as a part of the uniform….”
Yes, it wsa the only hat that fits their pointy head
Mr_Kia
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:13 pm | Permalink
Phantom
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:10 pm | Permalink
Oh, yea, he was asked about the hospital that was trying to collect unpaid bill, apparently poor ol’ Joe doesn’t have coverage either. No wonder he’s against Obama!
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Well it’s Joe’s decision to be a skilled craftsman not covered by a union
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This is why Chas was so funny last night when he kept saying Joe was a plant from the McCain campaign. Moved in over night, afterall we never saw his house or knew how long he had lived there did we?
Poor Joe didn’t know when he asked a question of a prez hopeful that his entire life would be aired to the nation. This makes me a little fearful of the future of an Obama presidency. Will it be safe to blog?
Kia, what’s banned at the polls is “electioneering.” If they will shilling for some candidate, they would be in violation of the law.
At this point, what I’m seeing are some brothers who are going to an extreme to prevent shenanigans. Simple numbers tell me that they’re not trying to keep white people from voting.
But carrying weapons, of any kind, outside a polling station ain’t cool. At All.
Yes, it wsa the only hat that fits their pointy head
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I thought maybe in the early days it served two purposes. 1. A hat, 2. A handy feed bag for their horse.
Rage you know when you asked it like that what I said seemed to be rascist didn’t it? I was merely thinking of the younger age of the voters this go around and their excitement level when celebrating.
okobserver
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:24 pm | Permalink
Will it be safe to blog?
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Depends on the political stance.
I’m serious too.
There is no telling what an ultra Liberal controlled Government will try and enact on it’s oppoenents given absolute power.
I was merely thinking of the younger age of the voters this go around and their excitement level when celebrating.
So, so okie says the youth vote will turn out! Hehe!
Noted.
Will it be safe to blog. Don’t know, might lose the security of the govt. screening postings. Is that what you meant?
There is no telling what an ultra Liberal controlled Government will try and enact on it’s oppoenents given absolute power.
Jesus. . . are you serious? Don’t you even understand what “liberal” means?
Rage
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:26 pm | Permalink
Kia, what’s banned at the polls is “electioneering.” If they will shilling for some candidate, they would be in violation of the law.
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Electioneering. Thank you.
I guess it is debatable on the purpose of their presence.
And as they were brandishing weapons, they were rightly removed.
“given absolute power”
Are you crazy? There is a checks and balance system built into America.
Take a basic civics course and stop crying “WOLF!”
The Constitution and Bill of Rights, though tattered and frayed by Bush and Cheney, is still the basis of the law of the land.
Will it be safe to blog. Don’t know, might lose the security of the govt. screening postings. Is that what you meant?
And, economic crisis of not, I intend to ride the behinds of our elected folks on the FISA capitulation.
It ain’t over. Not even close!
and then the scary black man carved a b on my face…………
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/black-panthers-vs-fox-new_n_141083.html
Fox News’ Rick Leventhal reported live from the polling place where Black Panthers were allegedly intimidating voters Tuesday afternoon.
A University of Pennsylvania student reported that a Black Panther wielding a “night stick” intimidated voters at a polling place in Philadelphia (video below). The Black Panther allegedly claimed he was “tired of white supremacy.” An Obama volunteer on the scene disputed this account, saying there was no intimidation of voters occurring at the polling place.
When Leventhal went to investigate, he got into a confrontation with a Black Panther — a certified poll watcher — who denied the story and told Leventhal in no uncertain terms that he was not welcome at the polling place. Leventhal disputed his claims, citing election law which allows him to be within 10 feet of the entrance.
Leventhal could not confirm that the Black Panthers were on the scene intimidating voters, saying, “There’s been no disturbances that I’m aware of, except what we’ve encountered here. But again, I want to make very clear, we don’t know that any voters were denied entrance to this polling facility. We don’t know that anyone was intimidated to the point that they decided not to vote here, but that was what some people were concerned might be happening with two Black Panthers, one of them holding a nightstick, out front.”
60 Senate seats.
House Majority.
POTUS.
There are no checks and balances with complete control.
They won’t come overnight certainly.
But the fairness doctrine is coming. I guarantee regulation of the web and satellite systems will not be far behind.
You get those and Yes, Conservative commentary will be limited.
But the fairness doctrine is coming.
Maybe, maybe not. But, damn!
More scare-mongering (is fear all you people have? you have my sympathy, no sarcasm at all).
Want to see what the fairness doctrine was really about? Read the landmark challenge to it:
http://epic.org/free_speech/red_lion.html
“Regrettably, we live at a time when some persons do not value all human life. They want to pick and choose which individuals have value. Some have said that only those individuals with “consciousness of self” are human beings. One such writer has followed this deadly logic and concluded that “shocking as it may seem, a newly born infant is not a human being. . . . Late-term abortions, especially when the baby survives, but is then killed by starvation, neglect, or suffocation, show once again the link between abortion and infanticide. The time to stop both is now. . . . We cannot survive as a free nation when some men decide that others are not fit to live and should be abandoned to abortion or infanticide.”
. . . President Ronald Reagan, on the tenth anniversary of the infamous Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing infanticide in America’s abortion mills, an illegal edict which continues to threaten the legitimacy of our federal government, even the existence of our nation
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“It is high time to stop pretending that we do not know what this nation of ours is allowing – and approving – with the killing each year of more than 1,600,000 innocent human beings within their mothers. We know full well that to kill what is clearly seen to be an innocent human being or what cannot be proved to be other than an innocent human being is as wrong as wrong gets.”
. . . Cardinal Edward Egan of the New York Archdiocese, on the staggering evil that is causing horrific suffering throughout our nation
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Illegal alien Angelina Sarmiento, 25, of Stamford, CT was arraigned on charges of murder and concealment of birth in state Superior Court Friday, accused of wrapping her 2-hour-old newborn son in a plastic bag, leaving him in a closet, stabbing him with a kitchen utensil, and tossing the tiny body in a garbage bin. The Chief Medical Examiner ruled the death a homicide Friday afternoon and determined the baby was asphyxiated.
Connecticut’s safe haven law allows legal abandonment of unharmed babies at hospitals up to 30 days of age, making this heinous crime all the more intolerable.
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El Paso County, TX Sheriff’s deputies discovered what they believed was a human fetus on Saturday night inside a garbage bin outside a convenience store. This may have been a premature birth. Police are investigating a 29-year-old woman believed to be the mother.
Rage
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:29 pm | Permalink
I was merely thinking of the younger age of the voters this go around and their excitement level when celebrating.
So, so okie says the youth vote will turn out! Hehe!
Noted.
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Actually Rage I was going from what I saw today when I voted. There were many young,18-29, voters there. This was around 10am this morning. From talking to several people around me I learned there were a lot of first time voters. Lots of confusion about whether they were in the right place. Many provisional ballots being cast. It is encouraging to see new voters getting involved.
Rage
Posted November 4, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink
http://epic.org/free_speech/red_lion.html
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Fear tactics work both ways.
Not sure if you all just agree with Obama and his background or are just drinking the Kool-aid that comes out of his mouth.
I know exactly what the fairness doctrine is and is about.
My personal opinion is it limits freedom of speech when your opinions have the right to be rebutted in your paid for forum (radio waves for instance).
Mr Kia that is what bothers me also. When advertisers are paying for air time how can the government mandate what can be said. This is the beginning of limiting speech anyway you dice it.
My personal opinion is it limits freedom of speech when your opinions have the right to be rebutted in your paid for forum (radio waves for instance).
Not a particularly extreme conclusion (google “Norman Dorsen”), but hardly the Stalinist nightmare you were implying. And the era of media and bandwidth consolidation we’ve seen in my undecided mind would tend to argue in the doctrine’s favor.
David Brooks has an sobering and insightful look at what this election means, historically and practically: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/opinion/04brooks.html?em
David Brooks has an sobering and insightful look at what this election means, historically and practically: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/opinion/04brooks.html?em
Good read. And something to think about
There is no telling what an ultra Liberal controlled Government will try and enact on it’s oppoenents given absolute power.
As Michael Moore says in his free online move Slacker Uprising, when democrats are in power, “we will be nicer than the repulbicans were”. He guaranteed that democrats will allow republicans to marry one another. Story I hear, though, is that president Obama will insist that these Republicans are sterilized before their nuptials.
Being a couple of years younger than Obama’s mom would have been I can see truths in this article but I also see things that he missed. As parents we didn’t do the best job and we have the ‘children’ to prove it in many instances. Our motto of ‘if it feels good do it’ was exactly what we were about. Obama’s mom was certainly part of that period.
Fortunately for him he had grandparents that had the foresight to move him to Hawaii, which was a more accepting culture for his mixed heritage. Would he have been who he is today if he had remained in Kansas? Probably not.
This race is historic. I don’t disagree with that. I think in a few more years Obama might have been ready for the task. I don’t think he is now. We will probably get a chance to see.
StevenD what have you done with the person who used to post under your name and could carry on a good conversation. While you didn’t agree with him you also didn’t violently disagaree with him and you could both leave happey.
I just hope they get enough senate seats that they can keep Joe the Turncoat eating lunch in the corner by himself!
No matter who wins or loses, we will get the government, we as a society, deserve.
Republicans should NOT be allowed to marry one another…it’s in the Bible.
“Really? Where do I sign up for a free electric car? Was that in his campaign? That is the first I heard of Obama giving everyone an electric car.
If you registered dem. you’re already on the list, if not it’ll be about 2020 before you can get yours delivered.
If you registered dem. you’re already on the list, if not it’ll be about 2020 before you can get yours delivered.
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Well then, have him send a ‘Little Rascal’ along with the car.
No matter who wins or loses, we will get the government, we as a society, deserve.
That depends. If we see the election as the beginning and end of everything, yeah.
The worst possible thing–especially if you win–is to go to sleep afterwards. The real work starts on November 5.
Are you so insecure in your belief of Evolution that in order to support it you must tear down Creation?
Nathan whines
“Once again, The truth or validity of Evolution is not proved by disproving Creation. Neither is Creation proved by disproving Evolution.
Yet whenever you get defensive about Evolution you attack Creation.
At least you are not calling Evolution an irrefutable fact anymore. You are capable of learning after all. Congratulations.”
Evolution is an irrefutable fact. Since you focus on that phrase I’ll have to remember to mention it every time I post. I can’t attack “creation” because there is no evidence for any. The lack of evidence pretty much refutes such an absurd notion (like creationists believe the Earth was formed by the hacked body parts of giants and the rivers and oceans were from the giant’s blood, no evidence). I simply mock creationists and their inability to do research to support their non-existent theory. You simply whine because I have evidence to back my position and you have nothing but excuses. How about you post something a bit more substantial than your childish temper tantrums? Meanwhile, since creationists still insist there is no evidence for the irrefutable fact of evolution I’ll continue to post some.
okobserver posted November 4, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Poor Joe didn’t know when he asked a question of a prez hopeful that his entire life would be aired to the nation. This makes me a little fearful of the future of an Obama presidency. Will it be safe to blog?
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Yes.
Intelligent people will just continue to wonder how people like you and ‘Joe the faux plumber’ can be so confused and ignorant.
Yea – poor ol’ Joe:
Plumber Joe’s new biz: Managing his fame
The election’s most unlikely celebrity has “more requests than an artist with a number-one record,” says his new PR manager.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/04/smallbusiness/joe_the_celeb.smb/index.htm
Next thing you know he will have his own radio show!
KIA claims that some people believe that Republicans will try to steal the election.
Gee, wonder where we ever got that crazy idea:
Attempted Sabotage Foiled in Florida
Posted Nov 4th 2008 12:00PM by TMZ Staff
Deerfield Beach, Fla. is one hour south of Palm Beach. Nearly 400 people were planted firmly in line at 6:15 this morning, waiting for the polls to open at 7:00 AM. There is one voting machine to accommodate all of them.
The area almost entirely African American. Many of the people never have voted before. One woman was 101 years old. She was wheeled into the polling place and on her way out she said that before she died, she wanted to vote for a black man.
Election monitors noticed a man in line who appeared to be a voter. Turns out he was a saboteur, telling people the Democrats were supposed to vote at a different location.
Some of the voters said they were robocalled last night. The message — Democrats weren’t supposed to vote until Wednesday.
UPDATE — Election officials just delivered seven more voting machines.
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Yup, that’s what they do. That’s who they are.
Fair and balanced Fox show the “scary black man” with the “scary club in his hands.”
No mention of long lines in black precincts?
Yup, that’s fair and balanced all right.
Capn’A, are you going to piss and moan all evening?
You you CONs as senile as McCoot?
John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) mentioned “Joe the Plumber” 19 times during the third presidential debate.
It wasn’t the “evil” media or the Satanist Democrats or the godless Democrats who made “Joe the Plumber” a public figure. 19 times in an hour and a half!
And CONs are offended someone in the media might have thought to ask, so who is this guy who’s so electrified McCancer’s campaign rhetoric?
Just your typical hard-working “Joe” who isn’t a plumber, has a publicist and an agent peddling a book, and hopes for a Nashville recording act.
C’mon.
(It was interesting, however, that “Joe the Plumber” seemed to have a better grasp of the CONservative spin on issues that the Moose-Dresser.)
That must be why poor private citizen Joe tried to get the interviewer to ask him what his future plans are.
I tell you there’s gold in them repub fools.
David Brooks has an sobering and insightful look at what this election means, historically and practically:
Sorry, DavidB, while I agreed with part of it (as one of our generation, Brooks can’t be entirely clueless), I found it only sobering. It wasn’t particularly insightful.
Proving once again, CONs, it sucks to be you:
In perhaps the most distressing sign for McCain’s campaign, a survey of 186 Lancaster County voters — long seen as the bread and butter of statewide GOP campaigns — found Obama favored by a majority, albeit a slim one.
Of those interviewed, 55 percent here said they backed the Democrat for president. About 44 percent said they voted for McCain and running mate Sarah Palin. About 1 percent backed Libertarian candidate Bob Barr.
http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/229714
It’s kind of funny, poor ol Joe, just might be thrust into an income bracket where he will be affected by Obama taxes!
I’m confident there’s enough poor dumb repubs. they can support Joe’s future just like Rush’s.
for the kiddies out there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NawhWb8Uu5E
Obama carried Dixville Notch this morning
okobserver >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
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Can you point out any violence in this video??
The people from University of Pennsylvania were not SUPPOSED to be at that polling place… It was, if you look in the background, NOT a black only location…
The photographer obviously did not have a PRESS Pass…. but only a camera Phone…
If this is intimidation, I sure dont see it…
Is this the video that is making all of the rounds of Talk Radio all day???
Friggin Red Herring!!
Fuel-Making Fungus Challenges Oil Creation Theory
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,446744,00.html
If this is intimidation, I sure dont see it…
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That is because you are blind Chas.
Hey Regular, did you get that eye checked out?
Black guys with batons is a scary sight for some white folks.
I’ll repeat what I said: instruments of violence, even (indeed, especially) when brandished by police, should not normally be displayed at a voting site.
But I regard this, quite frankly, as the foul harvest of Florida 2000.
A skin head with a noose, would that be intimidating?
chass you need to get a grip again. Your ignorance is seeping out around the edges. If you saw a man in a sheet with a pointed hat would you feel intimidated. I would. This had no place in front of a polling place.
Rage we cannot keep excusing bad behaviors by equating it with something that happened in the past. If we don’t learned from history aren’t we doomed to repeat it. I for one don’t want to go back to the days of the race riots and for my age group the Black Panthers were part of that time. Not being black I know that I can’t speak to the feeling of blacks but I wish that we could get past it and move forward.
You Republicans will enjoy this.
The VoteMaster says;
One thing of interest is a a series of polls SurveyUSA did in Nov. 2006 pitting vs. candidates against each other, like Clinton-Giuliani, Clinton-Romney, etc. One of the maps they produced was Obama-McCain. It is instructive to see what the voters would have done in Nov. 2006 had they been given the Obama-McCain choice then. As Bob Dylan put it: “The times, they are a changin’.”
Here is the map:
http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/11/03/mccain-510-electoral-votes-ob=ama-28-how-the-map-looked-exactly-2-years-ago/
Black guys with batons is a scary sight for some white folks.
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Don’t push your White Guilt on me.
I’ve looked that gift horse in the mouth and that philly needs to be put down.
GRANNY >>>>
Those guys from U. of Penn. had NO business at that polling place!! What is there about that you dont understand???
These guys werent wearing any disguise, such as your “white shirt/pointy hat” fake scenario.
They identified themselves as SECURITY… Did you not HEAR that??
Legitimate Media/Press personnel show a Press Pass immediately… These guys show up with a camera phone….
What fantasy land are you fear mongering in today, GRANNY??? Pull your head out!!
The night sticks might have been a bit much… But there was NO aggression from ANYbody in that video….
Again, I see the U. of Penn.(if they really were U. of Penn.) people as the ones treading on thin ice…
Too bad nobody called 911…. Then there would be no debate about this… Geez…
The scary white people are the ones promoting this as voter intimidation!!
HOW?? THESE people with the camera phone were not — I repeat — WERE NOT voters!!
Besides, there were other people entering and exiting the building during the video taped (camera phoned) conversation…
PLEASE show some evidence of intimidation??
Or else, just shut up about it…
Nothing to see there….
Have fun, y’all!!
Chass save your ignorants posts tonight. You are the most illogical person I know bar none. It could be because you are truely stupid. I choose to think you are truly stubborn and have an arrogance that overrides your good sense. I’m being charitable there. It was WRONG! Period. Enough said. That is in caps because I was yelling at you not because of my stroke.
okobserver
Posted November 4, 2008 at 5:24 pm | Permalink
chass you need to get a grip again.
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Granny, you seem overly infatuated with my “grip” — Need I remind you, YOU are the one promoting an atmosphere of FEAR… and all you got is a very calm Video of two people not being where they belonged, being told they cannot enter the building…
WHY are you trying to invent FEAR and DANGER???
Rage we cannot keep excusing bad behaviors
You’re talking about Watts 1965.
I’m talking about Miami-Dade County 2000.
I don’t like the idea of anyone hanging around a polling site with ouch mechanisms. If McCain/Paul/whoever voters are intimidated, I regard this as an issue.
I want a clean election. Don’t you? There are other things out there, you know, that involve more than one precinct.
But I don’t buy into partisan mechanisms of thought. Ain’t my thing.
BTW chass 911 was called and they were removed. Can’t you get anything right. Who cares who took the video. The Black Panthers didn’t belong there. Pull your head out.
BTW chass 911 was called and they were removed.
Hehe, wow!
Grannie, reality called, upthread:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-114-2/#comment-462695
Get a clue.
Rage not sure what your point was. I was simply answering chass’s post ‘Too bad nobody called 911…. Then there would be no debate about this… Geez…’.
Sorry you didn’t see that.
Fair enough. Can we put this tempest in a teapot to bed now?
Agreed.
My speakers could be a little off…. But, I never did hear the black guys in front of the polling place STATE that they were Black Panthers… I DID hear them state that they were SECURITY….
Nor could I make out their round badges on the jacket of the one closest to the camera… It might have said “Security” on it..
Again, IF they identified themselves as something other than Security I didnt hear it…
I also have heard NO news report nor seen any link that said 911 was called in this instance.
Link please??
You guys, had you noticed that regular hasn’t posted the rest of the day? I know he’s a slime, but I don’t want to see anything bad happen to anyone.
Is there any way to find out if he’s ok?
Chas did you notice what was missing from the outside of that polling place? Like VOTE HERE signs?
It looked like an apt building, there wasn’t even a little sign out front.
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My speakers could be a little off…. But, I never did hear the black guys in front of the polling place STATE that they were Black Panthers… I DID hear them state that they were SECURITY….
Nor could I make out their round badges on the jacket of the one closest to the camera… It might have said “Security” on it..
Again, IF they identified themselves as something other than Security I didnt hear it…
I also have heard NO news report nor seen any link that said 911 was called in this instance.
Link please??
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Chas, it doesn’t really matter. It’s a whole lotta nothing. Black guys in berets with clubs. Can you not see how that’s a little scary to some people? Like I said, the foul harvest of 2000. It pains me that it’s come to this.
But no evidence of anyone being intimidated or turned away. Crux of the biscuit.
Is there any way to find out if he’s ok?
If the chatter is true (and I haven’t followed closely), he lives with his sister. I don’t have a phone #. Anyone else?
I’m sure somebody on here has Regular’s phone number…
McCain bet the farm on Pennsylvania.
It would seem he lost.
I think this will only be a long night for McCain/Palin. McCain can’t lose even one more red state or it is over.
Cya later, Jay!!
I dunno. Regular seems pretty adamant about his idenpendence.
Should I bother the purple chicken with this?
Okay, my apologies to all, I’m gonna do it (It’s only an email–penis enlargment is not included!).
Doe anyone think the networks may be holding off on “calling” the swing states that would be decisive? You can’t tell me there aren’t results for Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Indiana… I suspect IF they showed all those states the contest would be over before the west coast polls close.
That would be: DOES anyone
Shoot! I posted and then found an election thread. Guess I’ll go see who is there.
To all you guys and gals out there who seem to think it is better to post insults like calling someone slime or stupid is what a blog is about: don’t you understand that it is about entering a civilized discussion of the issues of the day or whatever else may be on your minds. So what if someone posts something with which you disagree; there is nothing to keep you from posting a different point of view.
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Posted November 4, 2008 at 7:01 pm | Permalink
You guys, had you noticed that regular hasn’t posted the rest of the day? I know he’s a slime, but I don’t want to see anything bad happen to anyone.
Is there any way to find out if he’s ok?
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Get a grip, PM.
Don’t forget who you’re talking about. We’re probably being set up for another nic change.
I expect to see a new conservative nic soon with a really nasty attitude.