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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-477068</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mauch&lt;b&gt;l&lt;/b&gt;y, dammit! (Sorry, John)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mauch<b>l</b>y, dammit! (Sorry, John)</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-477066</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Have you ever worked with the Python language? &lt;/I&gt; 

Not really--I&#039;ve played around a little bit, but done nothing serious. Kinda like the &quot;try Ruby in your browser!&quot; experiments. Kid stuff.

&lt;i&gt;ou need to read Rapture for the Geeks: When AI Outsmarts IQ. The historical trivia on computers alone make it worth the effort. &lt;/i&gt;

As I also have an active interest in AI (which, at this point, hasn&#039;t even achieved &quot;AS&quot;), that sounds interesting. Regarding ENIAC, I highly recommend this short, fascinating book:

&lt;i&gt;ENIAC: The Triumphs and Tragedies of the World&#039;s First Computer (Hardcover)
by Scott McCartney &lt;/i&gt;
http://www.amazon.com/ENIAC-Triumphs-Tragedies-Worlds-Computer/dp/0802713483

True to its title, it is both inspiring and depressing. Few people could name the two quirky geniuses who invented the first modern computer (John Mauchy and J. Presper Eckert).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Have you ever worked with the Python language? </i> </p>
<p>Not really&#8211;I&#8217;ve played around a little bit, but done nothing serious. Kinda like the &#8220;try Ruby in your browser!&#8221; experiments. Kid stuff.</p>
<p><i>ou need to read Rapture for the Geeks: When AI Outsmarts IQ. The historical trivia on computers alone make it worth the effort. </i></p>
<p>As I also have an active interest in AI (which, at this point, hasn&#8217;t even achieved &#8220;AS&#8221;), that sounds interesting. Regarding ENIAC, I highly recommend this short, fascinating book:</p>
<p><i>ENIAC: The Triumphs and Tragedies of the World&#8217;s First Computer (Hardcover)<br />
by Scott McCartney </i><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/ENIAC-Triumphs-Tragedies-Worlds-Computer/dp/0802713483" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/ENIAC-Triumphs-Tragedies-Worlds-Computer/dp/0802713483</a></p>
<p>True to its title, it is both inspiring and depressing. Few people could name the two quirky geniuses who invented the first modern computer (John Mauchy and J. Presper Eckert).</p>
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		<title>By: StevenEDavis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476878</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenEDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;high gym&quot; should have been &quot;High school&quot; sized gym.  And, NO, that was not a Freudian slip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;high gym&#8221; should have been &#8220;High school&#8221; sized gym.  And, NO, that was not a Freudian slip.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenEDavis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476876</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenEDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rage,

You need to read &lt;i&gt;Rapture for the Geeks:  When AI Outsmarts IQ&lt;/i&gt;.  The historical trivia on computers alone make it worth the effort.

Have you ever worked with the Python language?  I had used Liberty Basic to program an &quot;effect size&quot; calculator (Hedges&#039;s G was what I was interested in).  I was able to come up with a suitable program without too much code, but I think Python may be a better language for me.  NASA uses it too, so it can&#039;t be all bad + it&#039;s open source and free.  Python 3.0 is coming out in December and a book will also be published in late December on this version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rage,</p>
<p>You need to read <i>Rapture for the Geeks:  When AI Outsmarts IQ</i>.  The historical trivia on computers alone make it worth the effort.</p>
<p>Have you ever worked with the Python language?  I had used Liberty Basic to program an &#8220;effect size&#8221; calculator (Hedges&#8217;s G was what I was interested in).  I was able to come up with a suitable program without too much code, but I think Python may be a better language for me.  NASA uses it too, so it can&#8217;t be all bad + it&#8217;s open source and free.  Python 3.0 is coming out in December and a book will also be published in late December on this version.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenEDavis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476874</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenEDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read that the ENIAC computers took up a high gym sized space.  But recently the memory of that large computer could be put on a chip the size of a single piece of confetti.  We&#039;ve come a long way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read that the ENIAC computers took up a high gym sized space.  But recently the memory of that large computer could be put on a chip the size of a single piece of confetti.  We&#8217;ve come a long way.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476863</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good night;  good luck;  god  bless   ----
whatever you conceive god to be!!

blessings  ALL!!

blessings on  this  Advent Season!!

so mote it be!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good night;  good luck;  god  bless   &#8212;-<br />
whatever you conceive god to be!!</p>
<p>blessings  ALL!!</p>
<p>blessings on  this  Advent Season!!</p>
<p>so mote it be!!</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476852</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos_originally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Hey Boxlock!&lt;/b&gt;

Aren&#039;t you gonna tell us WHO the U.S. government took the computer, the Internet, the Mosaic web browser, etc, FROM?

‘The Technology Challenge: How Can America Spark Private Innovation?’
http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/lazowska/faculty.lecture/innovation/gore.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Hey Boxlock!</b></p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t you gonna tell us WHO the U.S. government took the computer, the Internet, the Mosaic web browser, etc, FROM?</p>
<p>‘The Technology Challenge: How Can America Spark Private Innovation?’<br />
<a href="http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/lazowska/faculty.lecture/innovation/gore.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/lazowska/faculty.lecture/innovation/gore.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Boxlock20</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476851</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The $700 Billion bailout is free printed money. Sure it increases the National Debt, but nobody will be paying that back - ever.&quot;---JimJohnson,

Surely you jest!  We, or our grandkids, will surely pay it all back, whether in taxes, or due to the devaluation of money due to inflation from the printing of the money.
Again I say, surely you jest...no one can be that stupid, unless they are a DimLib or simply ignorant.
Or, as I suspect, sarcastic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The $700 Billion bailout is free printed money. Sure it increases the National Debt, but nobody will be paying that back &#8211; ever.&#8221;&#8212;JimJohnson,</p>
<p>Surely you jest!  We, or our grandkids, will surely pay it all back, whether in taxes, or due to the devaluation of money due to inflation from the printing of the money.<br />
Again I say, surely you jest&#8230;no one can be that stupid, unless they are a DimLib or simply ignorant.<br />
Or, as I suspect, sarcastic!</p>
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		<title>By: Political_mama</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476845</link>
		<dc:creator>Political_mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok you all have freaking lost your mind.  No I&#039;m not an eeevil boss.  I have expectations that I have always had.  I have no issues with employee protections.  They deserve them because too many were taken advantage of.

They&#039;re the same ones that protect you from getting canned when you earn too much and they can replace you with someone cheaper.

However, I won&#039;t have people who are downright bad employees.  That&#039;s bad for the company, bad for the clients, and bad for morale of the company.

I also know that a company has to be profitable in order to work.  Now where that line is on profitability vs quality, that&#039;s where I&#039;m coming in, right?  That&#039;s my job.  Trying to keep everyone happy and move the company forward.  Not as easy as it may seem, and there are a lot of growing pains.

For the most part I have really good employees.  I like my job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok you all have freaking lost your mind.  No I&#8217;m not an eeevil boss.  I have expectations that I have always had.  I have no issues with employee protections.  They deserve them because too many were taken advantage of.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re the same ones that protect you from getting canned when you earn too much and they can replace you with someone cheaper.</p>
<p>However, I won&#8217;t have people who are downright bad employees.  That&#8217;s bad for the company, bad for the clients, and bad for morale of the company.</p>
<p>I also know that a company has to be profitable in order to work.  Now where that line is on profitability vs quality, that&#8217;s where I&#8217;m coming in, right?  That&#8217;s my job.  Trying to keep everyone happy and move the company forward.  Not as easy as it may seem, and there are a lot of growing pains.</p>
<p>For the most part I have really good employees.  I like my job.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476844</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Boxlock may not even know that his web browser is based on Mosaic, which was developed with GOVERNMENT funds from Al Gore’s legislation. LOL! &lt;/i&gt;

Yup. And look! The first computer!

http://ftp.arl.army.mil/~mike/comphist/eniac-story.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Boxlock may not even know that his web browser is based on Mosaic, which was developed with GOVERNMENT funds from Al Gore’s legislation. LOL! </i></p>
<p>Yup. And look! The first computer!</p>
<p><a href="http://ftp.arl.army.mil/~mike/comphist/eniac-story.html" rel="nofollow">http://ftp.arl.army.mil/~mike/comphist/eniac-story.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476841</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;American way&quot; is Hank and &quot;Jim Johnson&quot; is &quot;Regular&quot; and neither one of them have ever worked a day in their lives.

    Gonna get rough on them and theirs is my take.

    BlueJay sings....

    Lovin&#039; every minute of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;American way&#8221; is Hank and &#8220;Jim Johnson&#8221; is &#8220;Regular&#8221; and neither one of them have ever worked a day in their lives.</p>
<p>    Gonna get rough on them and theirs is my take.</p>
<p>    BlueJay sings&#8230;.</p>
<p>    Lovin&#8217; every minute of it!</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476840</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos_originally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rage,

Yes, it&#039;s very ironic.

Boxlock may not even know that &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; web browser is based on Mosaic, which was developed with GOVERNMENT funds from Al Gore&#039;s legislation.  LOL!

&#039;NCSA Mosaic -- September 10, 1993 Demo&#039;
http://www.totic.org/nscp/demodoc/demo.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rage,</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s very ironic.</p>
<p>Boxlock may not even know that <i>his</i> web browser is based on Mosaic, which was developed with GOVERNMENT funds from Al Gore&#8217;s legislation.  LOL!</p>
<p>&#8216;NCSA Mosaic &#8212; September 10, 1993 Demo&#8217;<br />
<a href="http://www.totic.org/nscp/demodoc/demo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.totic.org/nscp/demodoc/demo.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476836</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodnight AW.

Have sweet dreams thinkin bout how good things are gonna be under Obamination!

I cling to my gun and bible for comfort too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodnight AW.</p>
<p>Have sweet dreams thinkin bout how good things are gonna be under Obamination!</p>
<p>I cling to my gun and bible for comfort too.</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476834</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were a little early for the good oranges. Navel&#039;s were all that were in season. The AZ sweets are about a month behind. 

It was a nice visit in the warm sun and time spent solving the worlds problems with some good conservatives poolside, drinks in hand. Far outweighed the blacksheep of the family on the government tit from Nevada.

Gotta run. Have to put some burn pain lotion on before going to bed. Gotta make lots of money at work tomorrow for Obama Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were a little early for the good oranges. Navel&#8217;s were all that were in season. The AZ sweets are about a month behind. </p>
<p>It was a nice visit in the warm sun and time spent solving the worlds problems with some good conservatives poolside, drinks in hand. Far outweighed the blacksheep of the family on the government tit from Nevada.</p>
<p>Gotta run. Have to put some burn pain lotion on before going to bed. Gotta make lots of money at work tomorrow for Obama Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476832</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American_Way
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:43 pm &#124; Permalink
That’s the standard NATO round JJ. We all know what weapons use those.
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Yeah I know.  Those nasty black guns that are used to hunt jack rabbits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American_Way<br />
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:43 pm | Permalink<br />
That’s the standard NATO round JJ. We all know what weapons use those.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Yeah I know.  Those nasty black guns that are used to hunt jack rabbits.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476831</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JimJohnson
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:43 pm &#124; Permalink
American_Way
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:37 pm &#124; Permalink
And JJ, read the local AZ news on illegals. That state has really put a damper on them.
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And who&#039;s gonna pick the oranges and grapefruit?  American Union workers will have to be hired.  

Those libs will love paying $5 for one orange and $10 for one grapefruit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JimJohnson<br />
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:43 pm | Permalink<br />
American_Way<br />
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:37 pm | Permalink<br />
And JJ, read the local AZ news on illegals. That state has really put a damper on them.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>And who&#8217;s gonna pick the oranges and grapefruit?  American Union workers will have to be hired.  </p>
<p>Those libs will love paying $5 for one orange and $10 for one grapefruit!</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476829</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why would I do that? They are libs on koolaid. &lt;/i&gt;

How predictably incurious. For some, willful ignorance must indeed be bliss!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why would I do that? They are libs on koolaid. </i></p>
<p>How predictably incurious. For some, willful ignorance must indeed be bliss!</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476828</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American_Way
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:41 pm &#124; Permalink
“The Ponderosa ”

There is no Ponderosa - they believe in the government providing the Ponderosa to everyone.

Hell, you don’t think they’d W.O.R.K fer it do ya?
Geez. They’re libs for godsake!
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Yeah OK, Government will provide everything from the money trees.  Ponderosas for everybody!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American_Way<br />
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:41 pm | Permalink<br />
“The Ponderosa ”</p>
<p>There is no Ponderosa &#8211; they believe in the government providing the Ponderosa to everyone.</p>
<p>Hell, you don’t think they’d W.O.R.K fer it do ya?<br />
Geez. They’re libs for godsake!<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Yeah OK, Government will provide everything from the money trees.  Ponderosas for everybody!</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476827</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American_Way
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:37 pm &#124; Permalink
And JJ, read the local AZ news on illegals. That state has really put a damper on them.
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Yeah, but who&#039;s gonna clean the pool and cut the grass now?

Dang!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American_Way<br />
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:37 pm | Permalink<br />
And JJ, read the local AZ news on illegals. That state has really put a damper on them.<br />
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<p>Yeah, but who&#8217;s gonna clean the pool and cut the grass now?</p>
<p>Dang!</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476826</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the standard NATO round JJ. We all know what weapons use those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the standard NATO round JJ. We all know what weapons use those.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476825</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tell us WHO the U.S. government took the computer, Internet, Mosaic web browser, etc, FROM? &lt;/i&gt;

Ah yes, cosmos, isn&#039;t deliciously ironic? Nearly every link in the technology chain--from the computer, the browser, the socket interfaces, the the ethernet standard, communication protocols,  to the Internet itself--was due to overnment research, or funded by government dollars. 

It reminds me of someone railing against the evils of newspapers on the editorial page of one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Tell us WHO the U.S. government took the computer, Internet, Mosaic web browser, etc, FROM? </i></p>
<p>Ah yes, cosmos, isn&#8217;t deliciously ironic? Nearly every link in the technology chain&#8211;from the computer, the browser, the socket interfaces, the the ethernet standard, communication protocols,  to the Internet itself&#8211;was due to overnment research, or funded by government dollars. </p>
<p>It reminds me of someone railing against the evils of newspapers on the editorial page of one.</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476824</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Ponderosa &quot;

There is no Ponderosa - they believe in the government providing the Ponderosa to everyone.

Hell, you don&#039;t think they&#039;d W.O.R.K fer it do ya?
Geez. They&#039;re libs for godsake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Ponderosa &#8221;</p>
<p>There is no Ponderosa &#8211; they believe in the government providing the Ponderosa to everyone.</p>
<p>Hell, you don&#8217;t think they&#8217;d W.O.R.K fer it do ya?<br />
Geez. They&#8217;re libs for godsake!</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476823</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say AW, heard a news story on the radio saying that Guns &amp; Ammo shortages right now are normal - during the hunting season this always happens.

Must be a helluva lot of hunters using AR&#039;s and Pistols!

And I notice no shortage in shotgun shells, slugs, or 30-06.  

Hollow-points, 9mm, 40, 44, 45 are hard to find now, and twice the price when you can find them!
And for some reason, .223&#039;s (or 5.56)are in short supply. Must be a whole new group of deer hunters using these calibers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say AW, heard a news story on the radio saying that Guns &amp; Ammo shortages right now are normal &#8211; during the hunting season this always happens.</p>
<p>Must be a helluva lot of hunters using AR&#8217;s and Pistols!</p>
<p>And I notice no shortage in shotgun shells, slugs, or 30-06.  </p>
<p>Hollow-points, 9mm, 40, 44, 45 are hard to find now, and twice the price when you can find them!<br />
And for some reason, .223&#8217;s (or 5.56)are in short supply. Must be a whole new group of deer hunters using these calibers.</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476822</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; . .and did you ask them why? Hmmmm???&quot;

Why would I do that? They are libs on koolaid.

But they are sure buying semi-automatic guns before their savior bans them.

What&#039;s that tell you about liberals? Says much more than asking them why they voted for The God Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; . .and did you ask them why? Hmmmm???&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would I do that? They are libs on koolaid.</p>
<p>But they are sure buying semi-automatic guns before their savior bans them.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s that tell you about liberals? Says much more than asking them why they voted for The God Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1130/#comment-476821</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American_Way
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:33 pm &#124; Permalink

Funny thing was - I had family from Reno, NV there. They flew home to buy guns in NV - before the new Prez is annoited.

What’s funny? That entire part of the family voted for Obama!!
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The Ponderosa just ain&#039;t what it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American_Way<br />
Posted November 30, 2008 at 9:33 pm | Permalink</p>
<p>Funny thing was &#8211; I had family from Reno, NV there. They flew home to buy guns in NV &#8211; before the new Prez is annoited.</p>
<p>What’s funny? That entire part of the family voted for Obama!!<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>The Ponderosa just ain&#8217;t what it used to be.</p>
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