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More BS from the Republicans, Notice if the exam of the books revealed Ayers had no hand in writing in Obama’s book, they weren’t interested. Typical right-wing dirty tricks.
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The brother of a Republican congressman and a Republican businessman attempted to pay an professor in Oxford to use software he designed to “prove” that 1960s radical William Ayers helped write Sen. Barack Obama’s biography.
The professor, Dr. Peter Millican, teaches philosophy at Hertford College, Oxford. His software is designed to detect when works are by the same authors by comparing the use of similar words and phrases.
The offer was revealed Sunday in a British newspaper.
“He was entirely upfront about this,” the professor said of the Republican businessman who made the offer. “He offered me $10,000 and sent me electronic versions of the text from both books.”
Millican said he took a preliminary look and found the charges that Ayers had had a hand in ghostwriting Obama’s book “very implausible.” A deal was agreed for “more detailed research,” the paper said, but when Millican “said the results had to be made public, even if no link to Ayers was proved, interest waned.”
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Latest_GOP_smear_plot_revealed_Professor_1101.html
Just as a reminder from our resident Christian:
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Regular
Posted October 31, 2008 at 5:19 pm | Permalink
Maybe you’ll meet the same fate as that Colorado radio talk show guy.
Society would be much better off.
Hell, Regular’s no Christian. He sold his soul a long time ago. He’s one of the walking dead really…a “phantom” in some esoteric circles.
Once again, another article about how the irrefutable fact of evolution is correct and ignorant creationists (redundant) just don’t have the facts on their side.
Digit numbering and limb development
Answers in Genesis has evolutionary biology on the run now. In an article from 2002, Ostrich eggs break dino-to-bird theory, they explain that development shows that evolution is all wrong, since developmental pathways in different animals are completely different, and can’t possibly be the result of gradual transformations.
The first piece of evidence against evolution is the old avian digit problem. Birds couldn’t have evolved from dinosaurs, because they have the wrong finger order!
For the rest of the bad creationists excuses and the actual science which proves creationists wrong (yet again) see:
http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/digit_numbering_and_limb_development/
You all have too much time:
http://www.zefrank.com/memory/stringspin/spin_1.html
BTW, at the end of the prank call you can hear Palin telling her assistant that she thinks she’s being called by a radio station in France. She isn’t aware of the location of Montreal. But since Alaska is right next to Canada you’d figure she’d claim she’s an expert.
I see that JMWalker is on the attack this morning, even before I posted anything.
This demonstrates the weak and fragile mentality of duh Libs and how they are easily influenced.
Maggotpunk: Don’t be too hard on Palin, she isn’t the first one to be conned by these guys in Montreal. They “got” both Bush and Blair by posing as the French speaking PM of Canada and even “got” the new French President when he was running for office. Called the “Masked Avengers” they have been spoofing big wigs everywhere for over 20 years.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/02/palin.effigy.burn/index.html
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Regular
Posted November 2, 2008 at 7:45 am | Permalink
I see that JMWalker is on the attack this morning, even before I posted anything.
This demonstrates the weak and fragile mentality of duh Libs and how they are easily influenced.
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Ya, right, miss credible. Not that anyone needs reminding of what a blog a$$h0le you really are. Hey, makes my day.
Now you can read the REST of the story:
The Department of Homeland Security is investigating whether its privacy policy was violated after a news organization reported that an aunt of Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama is an illegal immigrant from Kenya, officials said yesterday.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/01/AR2008110102187.html?nav=rss_print/asection
Perhaps now she will finally be granted asylum.
A sneak peek at the future under ‘The One’.
Notice to All Employees
As of November 5, 2008, when President Obama is officially elected into office, our company will instill a few new policies which are in keeping with his new, inspiring issues of change and fairness:
1. All salespeople will be pooling their sales commissions into a common pool that will be divided equally between all of you. This will serve to give those of you who are underachieving a “fair shake.”
2. All hourly employees will be pooling their wages, including overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally amongst yourselves. This will help those who are “too busy for overtime” to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time and can work extra hours.
3. All top management will now be referred to as “the government.” We will not participate in this “pooling” experience because the law doesn’t apply to us.
4. The “government” will give eloquent speeches to all employees every week, encouraging its workers to continue to work hard “for the good of all.”
5. The employees will be thrilled with these new policies because it’s “good to spread the wealth.” Those of you who have underachieved will finally get an opportunity; those of you who have worked hard and had success will feel more “patriotic.”
6. The last few people who were hired should clean out their desks. Don’t feel bad though, because President Obama will give you free healthcare, free handouts, free oil for heating your home, free food stamps, and he’ll let you stay in your home for as long as you want even if you can’t pay your mortgage. If you appeal directly to our democratic congress, you might even get a free flat screen TV and a coupon for free haircuts (shouldn’t all Americans be entitled to nice looking hair?) !!!
If for any reason you are not happy with the new policies, you may want to rethink your vote on November 4th.
mxyzptlk
Posted November 2, 2008 at 8:25 am | Permalink
Now you can read the REST of the story:
The Department of Homeland Security is investigating whether its privacy policy was violated after a news organization reported that an aunt of Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama is an illegal immigrant from Kenya, officials said yesterday.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/01/AR2008110102187.html?nav=rss_print/asection
Perhaps now she will finally be granted asylum
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And I am supposed to be concerned about the privacy rights of an illegal immigrant when Joe the Plumber who is a legal citizen of our great country had his entire life exposed to the nation because of a demo gov and dept head and no one cared a whit.
Go figure. The gestapo state is alive and well.
Now who’s mind is plagued by the bats of conspiracy paranoia?
“And I am supposed to be concerned about the privacy rights of an illegal immigrant when Joe the Plumber who is a legal citizen of our great country had his entire life exposed to the nation because of a demo gov and dept head and no one cared a whit.”
Oh POOR Joe. He only ASKED for fame and is trying to parlay it into a book deal and country music contract.
I wish I could meet that knucklehead. I’d walk up and rap on his chrome dome a couple of times and ask what he got for his soul.
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okobserver
Posted November 2, 2008 at 8:39 am | Permalink
A sneak peek at the future under ‘The One’.
yadda, yadda, yadda . . . . .
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Life under a McBush regime:
1. Higher taxes for the middle class, lower for the ones who don’t need it.
2. 401K’s cut 90% by greedy financial institutions.
3. Wars in Iran, Pakistan, Syria and Canada.
4. Higher gas prices as McCain tries to fill the bill with American oil, but only cuts foreign imports by 2%.
5. Business given massive tax breaks for sending jobs overseas.
7. Environmental regulations gutted.
6. Higher health care costs as health suppliers choke middle Americans with less effective health insurance, via McCain’s health care initiative.
7. Main Stream Americans forced to listen to Sarah Palin.
8. Main Stream Americans forced to listen to McCain.
9. WEbloggers forced to read right-wing neo-nazi (read okobserver, regular, franklin, biased1, boxlock, and the rest) bulls##t for four years.
“Don’t be too hard on Palin, she isn’t the first one to be conned by these guys in Montreal…” — sursum
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It isn’t only that these comedians were successful in conning Governor Palin as they have others. She put her incompetence on display with her inane responses.
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okobserver
Posted November 2, 2008 at 8:42 am | Permalink
And I am supposed to be concerned about the privacy rights of an illegal immigrant when Joe the Plumber who is a legal citizen of our great country had his entire life exposed to the nation because of a demo gov and dept head and no one cared a whit.
Go figure. The gestapo state is alive and well.
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Joe the not-plumber would have remained a nobody had McCain not brought his name up over twenty times during the last debate. Blame McCain for Joe’s shellacking; he made Joe a household name.
Kansas is a Republican Gimme State. They don’t have to earn their keep here.
I’d like to know how much mccain is paying Joe to travel and campaign for him. A person of his means couldn’t afford to take off a month from labor to donate time like a mccain lobbyist.
Oh ya, I forgot: Under McCain, kids will get no candy on Halloween:
McCain supporter turns away children of Obama supporters during trick-or-treat. http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_supporter_turns_away_children_of_1101.html
Prayers for comfort and compassion to Senator Durbin on the loss of his daughter
Illinois Senator Dick Durbin’s Daughter Dies From Heart Condition Complications
A spokesman for the Democrat says Christine Durbin died in a Washington, D.C.-area hospital from complications relating to a congenital heart condition.
AP
Sunday, 2008-02-307
CHICAGO — Illinois’ senior Senator Dick Durbin is mourning the death of his daughter today.
A spokesman for the Democrat says Christine Durbin died in a Washington, D.C.-area hospital from complications relating to a congenital heart condition. She had been hospitalized for several weeks. The spokesman says “most of the family was at her bedside.”
Christine Durbin worked for 16 years for the Department of Agriculture in the emerging markets division. She lived with her husband and son in a suburb of the capital. She was 40.
Senator Durbin was in the Washington area yesterday with his wife and family.
He’s up for re-election Tuesday, seeking his third term in the Senate after seven in the House
Oh watch that video! What a bitch!
Someone should put a nice big brick right through one of her windows.
And what an IDIOT. The size of her house and she’s a Republican?
My sympathy for Sen. Dudrin.
But coming from Regular, who thinks offing a fellow blogger to make the world a better place, seems a might like BS. Kinda like an executioner saying, “he was a really nice guy.”
Save it reg, your bs is so weak, it couldn’t grow weeds.
My previous post references the woman who interrogated trick or treaters as to their political beliefs.
Attention Paul:
State Declares Obama Birth Certificate Genuine
State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.
She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.
Some Obama critics claim he was not born in the US.
Earlier Friday, a southwest Ohio magistrate rejected a challenge to Obama’s citizenship. Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.
http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/33666004.html
No Obama welfare for me if I can help it. Thus far we are better than Europe.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11022008/postopinion/editorials/out_taxing_europe_136450.htm
Will Obama bankrupt the coal industry, that’s what he told the folks in lib San Franciso. The O along with Reid and Pelosi is dangerous. Hang on everyone if this Comunmist type guy, the Messiah is elected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ&eurl
Does anyone else find it amusing how the presidential candidates distance themselves from Bush–who has an extremely low approval rating. Yet, they are both (as is Biden) members of a US Congress that has even LOWER ratings.
They are all part of the problem…yet they don’t seem to acknowledge that.
Politicians … will say what they think people want to hear and then act as they please.
Grm, you’re so full of sheet. I was just telling my fellow lib bloggers yesterday of how I get paid a straight 40 hrs a week and yet am working probably 80. Good ole friggin republican policies!
Money always being the bottom line. Too much work for a 40 hour shift? Oh well!
JMWalker why does the left insist on lynching Joe the Plumber because he asked a question that revealed the real Obama? It wasn’t McCain, it wasn’t Palin, it wasn’t Joe – it was Obama who unwittingly gave away his tax policy. It was supposed to be closely guarded until AFTER the election.
The left really is the dem party I guess. It was the question not the asker and nothing gave the democrat party in Ohio the right to access his private information and hand it out to the media. Nothing. BJ is an idiot but I thought you had better sense than that.
Pmom if what you say is true you should report your employer for wage and hour violations. The law is very clear on this. Unless you are on a salary pay basis you have to be paid time and a half for anything over 40 hours in a calendar week. Whenever the employer chooses to start your week. You can’t be considered exempt unless you do at least 80% of your job in a managerial position and actually have employees that report to you.
If you think abuse will change when Obama takes over then you aren’t as smart and I give you credit for. Quit thinking that everything bad in your life is because of the republicans. Grow a backbone and standup for yourself.
“…I get paid a straight 40 hrs a week and yet am working probably 80.”
If you are an hourly employee there is a law concerning this.
If you are not an hourly employee then you are not “paid a straight 40 hrs a week”.
Either way what has “Good ole friggin republican policies!” got to do with your choices?
MORE CENSORING FROM OBAMA – THIS TIME IT’S GRANDMA!
IN OTHER WORDS, “SHUT GRANNY UP UNTIL AFTER THE ELCTIONS!” Don’t let Granny say something stupid before election day!
http://www.ethiopianreview.com/news/3524
Ethiopian Review
Barack Obama’s family in Kenya stops media interviews
October 30th, 2008
By ERIC OLOO
The Kenya family of US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has halted all media engagements until after the US presidential election on November 4 .
The move has been taken to give Obama’s paternal grandmother, Mama Sarah Onyango Obama a break, according to a family member Mr Said Obama.
In the recent past, a battery of local and international journalists have been visiting the home on a daily basis to seek interviews from the 85-year old granny.
But Mr Said Obama said the family would open up to the media on November 5, a day after the elections.
And on Wednesday, Siaya District police chief Mr Johnston Ipara said security officers would restrict entry to the home to ensure the family privacy is guaranteed
“People who visit the family’s home in K’Ogelo will be restrained from conducting interviews to the family members,” he said
Mr Ipara added the move was taken to ensure that people, especially the media, do not pre-empt the outcome of the US elections by using comments from the family members.
“We do not want Mama Sarah Obama to be disturbed at the moment she needs time to monitor the elections as they unfold,” said Ipara.
He said all visitors to the home would be thoroughly screened by the police before being allowed in.
Hud
Posted November 2, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink
“…I get paid a straight 40 hrs a week and yet am working probably 80.”
If you are an hourly employee there is a law concerning this.
If you are not an hourly employee then you are not “paid a straight 40 hrs a week”.
Either way what has “Good ole friggin republican policies!” got to do with your choices?
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Hud, PMOM blames everything on Republicans. She’s one of the whiny ole blog nags, constantly btiching up a storm with no sources cited, no foundation in fact to her statements at all.
He11, her backache is probably da fault of Da Bush!
Obama will save them all though.
The Libs won’t have to work anymore, they will live 100% (instead of 50%) off of working people.
It was Sen. Obama who – at taxpayers’ expense – in August 2006 spent 6 days in Kenya, going from a rally to a rally with Odinga and sharply criticizing Kenyan government.
In his signature style he was cheering up one crowd after another, telling them: “Kenyans are now yearning for change”.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977487901
Sen. Obama strongly supported a radical leader who explicitly planned to turn a close U.S. ally into a safe haven for Islamic terrorism and to turn a country with predominantly Christian population into a radical Islamic state. When this leader lost the election, his supporters threw the country into chaos and through continued violence blackmailed the President into offering their leader the role of prime minister, the de facto No. 2 in the Kenyan government. Only then the violence stopped, leaving 1,500 dead, 600,000 displaced and 35 people burnt alive in a church.
BlueJay
Posted November 2, 2008 at 9:27 am | Permalink
Oh watch that video! What a bitch!
Someone should put a nice big brick right through one of her windows.
And what an IDIOT. The size of her house and she’s a Republican?
Blue Jay posted on 10/31
Heh, but any lil’ John McCain or Sarah Palins come to my door get a big Charlie Brown rock.
Double Standard?
They’re within the law Grm. I do have a managerial position and staff that reports to me.
B.J. with more references to performing acts of confrontation and violence.
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JimJohnson
Posted November 2, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink
Obama will save them all though.
The Libs won’t have to work anymore, they will live 100% (instead of 50%) off of working people.
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Funny how reg disappears and this bozo shows up.
That’s right, bozo, I will be kicking back drinking scotch and sodas while you’re busting your sorry a&& to pay for them. Keep up the good work.
And if you remember it was YOUR PARTY who messed with the wage/hour overtime crap back a few years ago.
Remember, my work class was exempt from minimum wage requirements…or did you forget.
Obo Marx
Barack Obama, by his own book, plus the testimony of relatives and friends, was raised in quite a family. While in high school, his mother developed an affinity with a teacher who led readings from Marx. She became an atheist or agnostic and met Barack Obama Sr. in a college Russian language class – a Russian language class, circa 1960.
With no father in his home in Hawaii, he was mentored throughout his teens by Frank Marshall Davis, a man famous in communist circles, with numerous FBI files. Davis also wrote an autobiography, Sex Rebel (explicit references) which demonstrates numerous of his perversions, including pedophilia. Nothing new there, “sexual revolution” was a part of the Russia’s Marxist revolution: sex is divorced from reproduction, marriage, and child rearing; abortion becomes sublime. Sexual involvement is “liberated” into mutual use.
According to a former intelligence officer who had read the FBI files, Davis laid out a generic communist plan “to take over America from within, by installing educators at all levels of our educational system, gaining control of the media, getting Liberal judges appointed, recruiting, training and backing people to be elected to public office.”
From Hawaii, Barack was on to New York and Columbia University (Bill Ayers was a neighbor there, too) and then Chicago (where Ayers returned). Obama writes of attending socialist conferences and reading Marxist books around this time. He was trained in and taught the insurgent methods of “Rules for Radicals” drafted by cynical, “transformational Marxist,” Saul Alinsky. Thesis: lie, cheat, steal, etc., while making those who uphold American principles live up to impossibly high standards of institutional altruism, so that we and our liberal government fail in ridicule. Preach “change” and gradually build an activist army of the proletariat, motivated by (short sighted) self interest, for a crescendoing revolt. All, to pave the way for the “egalitarian state.” And funny thing, Alinsky’s book tosses an acknowledgment to Lucifer, “the very first radical,” a refreshing lapse into candor.
http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2008/10/baracks-career-path-toward-american.html
for more including links to references.
This is the better know photo, but who knows the difference between the two photos?
http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/fi/0000018f.jpg
To some, this means something:
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/first_flag.jpg
To others, they burn the flag out of ignorance OR disrespect.
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okobserver
Posted November 2, 2008 at 10:43 am | Permalink
JMWalker why does the left insist on lynching Joe the Plumber because he asked a question that revealed the real Obama? It wasn’t McCain, it wasn’t Palin, it wasn’t Joe – it was Obama who unwittingly gave away his tax policy. It was supposed to be closely guarded until AFTER the election.
The left really is the dem party I guess. It was the question not the asker and nothing gave the democrat party in Ohio the right to access his private information and hand it out to the media. Nothing. BJ is an idiot but I thought you had better sense than that.
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It’s called politics, ok, and after the crap about Obama not being a natural born American citizen, him being called a Muslim, and the rest of the bs tossed out at Obama by you so-called Christians, you call me out on Joe the plumber?
Hypocrite, thy name is Republican.
You now have about as much credibility as regular, which is to say none.
I see now JM that I underestimated your inflated opinion of yourself.
“They’re within the law Grm. I do have a managerial position and staff that reports to me.”
So you are not paid a straight 40 hour week.
“And if you remember it was YOUR PARTY who messed with the wage/hour overtime crap back a few years ago.”
And how did the pay of hourly workers and management change?
“…my work class was exempt from minimum wage requirements”
Sorry, I thought you were talking about the number of hours worked.
The only thing that changed HUD was that she had her taxes cut by Bush.
And if she is so great, employers would be beating a path to her door! Why doesn’t she quit the job she hates, and get the job and pay she thinks she she is worth?
Answer: She’d rather do nothing, but btich about it, and make her problem everyone else’s problem to fix. Thus – Obama is the answer.
Obama will bring on the Socialism those like this woman are desparately craving – getting something without having to work for it.
Nirvana!
From Granny Goodwitch >>>>
2. All hourly employees will be pooling their wages, including overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally amongst yourselves. This will help those who are “too busy for overtime” to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time and can work extra hours.
3. All top management will now be referred to as “the government.” We will not participate in this “pooling” experience because the law doesn’t apply to us.
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Good grief…. Top management doesnt participate in “hourly employment” policies as it is… since they are typically “salaried” employees…
Oh yea, “Salaried” employees also dont get paid for Overtime…
I think it’s a pretty safe bet “JimJohnson” is a new nym for one of the usual CONs who participate in this forum.
My only question is, “Why?”
Has the original nym become so discredited whomever it is felt the need to try a new persona?
I think most of us know enough about the Kansas political landscape to realize McPalin will carry the state. So the question becomes, why would anyone bother to come up with “JimJohnson” just to recite the the same old slime we’ve heard for months from the CONs?
It smells of desperation.
The REAL Statement >>>>
“The Department of Homeland Security is investigating whether its privacy policy was violated after a news organization reported that an aunt of Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama is an illegal immigrant from Kenya, officials said yesterday.” [bold emphasis mine]
Okob’s reading limitations made CLEAR:
“And I am supposed to be concerned about the privacy rights of an illegal immigrant….”
[italics mine] {From 8:47 a.m. post}
Ummmm… Okob??? you still havent got those glasses checked yet??? Tsk Tsk Tsk….
Jim you idiot. I love LOVE my job, I was pointing out that I don’t get paid for work I do either. I was just promoted into this job …P R O M O T E D. So I guess I’m doing quite a good job wouldn’t you say?
Grm is the kind who would advocate a smaller wage for her employees if it stuffed her pocketbook. Not me. But she thinks that people get paid what they’re worth now and I was pointing out that it wasn’t true.
Actually I think I know who JimJohnson might be…from the old board. Had the same nasty attitude.
Okob — IF you actually would READ the WAPO story that is linked, you would know that the lady might not BE an illegal…. just not fully processed… since nobody seems to have any information that she IS an illegal…. PLEASE read before you spew!!
So Momma,
How big of raises have you given your employees?
Hmmm…
Church is out early today.
BlueJay,
I see you are advocating your cowardly violence once again.
As I have said several times, you are the kind of coward that would stab someone in the back while they were not looking.
So as long as someone sees you, they don’t have much to worry about.
And you have the gall to carry on about my joking comment over a year ago?
Idiot.
Wait, Momma, did you say you don’t get paid for your work?
Are you a volunteer?
Exempt workers accept a salary Momma, regardless of how many hours you work per week.
New to management, maybe you didn’t understand that.
In other words, you are always on the clock when you are exempt. You work long hours, sometimes 7 day weeks, work from home, etc…
If you work smarter instead of harder, you’ll be more effective and get your assigned work done in a shorter work week.
It might take you some time to get up to speed.
“I think it’s a pretty safe bet “JimJohnson” is a new nym for one of the usual CONs who participate in this forum.”
They all sound alike anyway. Maybe there is only one of them and s/he keeps very busy setting up new nics in order to make it appear many share that viewpoint.
Childish. And stupid.
Okay, “Nathaniel” –
What would happen — today — if someone shot your dog?
HECKLER —- This is just plain FUNNY!!
” “to take over America from within, by installing educators at all levels of our educational system, gaining control of the media, getting Liberal judges appointed, recruiting, training and backing people to be elected to public office.””
That is the EXACT prototype almost to the LETTER of a “Christian” group known as the Dominionists… for taking over America from within…. Guess that makes them Communists too, eh??
http://www.Google.com Enter: Dominionists
Oh yea, substitute “Consevative Judges” , for “Liberal Judges” for Dominionist lingo…
BlueJay points in the general direction of the cons and laughs.
Your opinion of me means less than nothing to me. I’d have to have some respect for ya first.
Checking….
Nope.
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JimJohnson
Posted November 2, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink
I see now JM that I underestimated your inflated opinion of yourself.
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Your opinion, as well as regulars (assuming you’re not one of either, which is a long shot at best) and okobserver, carry as much weight with me as, well, nothing.
But I do like the idea of your working hard to supply me with my needs. As I said, keep up the good work; maybe I’ll send you a Christmas card.
Linda,
Childish. Just like the crap Mary said last night and you went right along with?
Childish. Just like the crap MonkeyHawk says here routinely and no one on the left really says anything to him about?
Oh yeah… And stupid.
But good old Linda goes right along with it.
Just like calling me mentally ill.
Hypocritical Idiot.
MonkeyHawk,
Why would you bring up such a violent think like shooting my dogs?
Are you trying to say that it should be ok to shoot my dogs?
“Oh watch that video! What a bitch!
“Someone should put a nice big brick right through one of her windows.
“And what an IDIOT. The size of her house and she’s a Republican?”
I agree that her behavior is boorish. On the other hand, aren’t you the one who said that if any kid showed up at your house dressed as McCain or Palin, you would give them the Charlie Brown treatment of a rock in the trick or treat bag?
I sincerely hope you were kidding (and in fact, I saw no little Palins or Obamas this Halloween). Either way, punishing kids for the political choices of their parents is pathetic.
I didn’t have any rocks prepared.
My sense was that if I got a little Palin or McCain at my door, it would be the product of the parents choice. IF it had happened I probably would have asked that parent if they were evil or merely stupid.
A bit different from interrogating little children about politics.
Jim I’m well aware of that. I’m well aware that it takes awhile to get completely up to speed as well in any new position.
I’ve got my dream job, I’ll accept the long hours and working 7 days a week, and working from home in the wee hours of the morning when someone calls in or 9pm when something happens. I will drive 1000 miles in a week. But don’t even try to say that I’m compensated accordingly.
I hope that raises come soon. Its being worked on.
“I didn’t have any rocks prepared.”
Good.
“My sense was that if I got a little Palin or McCain at my door, it would be the product of the parents choice. IF it had happened I probably would have asked that parent if they were evil or merely stupid.”
Oh, THAT’s a question to ask a parent in front of their children. BTW, with Sarah Palin, some might dress up like her because they think the Tina Fey impression is funny, or that Palin herself is humorous. When I was a kid lots of kids dressed up like Nixon, or “Tricky Dick”. Most of their parents were probably not Nixon supporters.
“Nathaniel” calls me out –
“…Just like the crap MonkeyHawk says here routinely and no one on the left really says anything to him about?”
Perhaps you might want to recast that sentence if only to make some sense.
“Oh yeah… And stupid.”
Poor ol’ “Nathaniel.” So paranoid he can’t walk out on his porch unless he’s concealing a firearm.
And we already know (unless you’ve changed your mind, “Nathaniel”) what might happen if someone shot his dog.
Bottom line, “Nathaniel.”
The real Marines would rather have you in Kansas than with them in Iraq or Afghanistan.
You know that.
You live that.
You can’t deny that.
I have utmost respect for the Marine Corps.
And I respect their decision to keep you away from their efforts in Asia.
They want you in Kansas, “Nathaniel.” They don’t want you with them in the line of fire.
At Northwest HS immediately after school on Friday, “Obama” was handing out candy.
Great costume, I gave him $50 for the fun of it all!
A number of bloggers have over the last couple of years have thought there was something wrong mentally with Nathaniel. A number have pleaded with him to get counseling or help of some kind.
He knows that his mental health is not something new that has just now been brought up.
We even asked him to see his minister but he has refused.
So, Nathaniel, don’t act surprised now when someone breaks through the wall of denial you’ve built.
Talk to your minister and get help.
“Nathaniel” tries –
“MonkeyHawk,
Why would you bring up such a violent think like shooting my dogs?
Are you trying to say that it should be ok to shoot my dogs?”
You know the context, “Nathaniel.”
You’ve denied it many times and I’ve produced your post about what you offered on November 28, 2007, your response to someone who might shoot your dog.
I have nothing against your dog, “Nathaniel.” There might be a case that it would be more humane to simply put it out of its misery, but I won’t go there.
Don’t get involved in a battle of wits with me, “Nathaniel.” Your only ammo is nits.
From the Arizona Daily Star (Tucson):
Barack Obama for president
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 11.02.2008
We see America the way Barack Obama sees America.
Our future requires a steady, intelligent and, as former Secretary of State Colin Powell said, a “transformational” leader to guide us into a new era. Obama brings deep intellectual curiosity, equanimity and discipline.
The ground under America is moving. A generational change is under way with or without Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., or Barack Obama, D-Ill.
The core concerns are more about the future than the past, be it eight years ago or one day ago. They are about the moment and the movement to engage Americans in ways not seen before, especially against a backdrop of economic strife unmatched since the Great Depression.
McCain is correct that it’s time to stand up. “Stand up, stand up, stand up and fight. Nothing is inevitable here. We’re Americans, and we never give up. We never quit. We never hide from history. We make history,” he said at the Republican National Convention.
However, the ways of the past, which we believe McCain understands, will not work in this new America. The future requires new tools and new expertise. A premium must be placed on more than just love of country. We must re-embrace American ideals and lead the world on a stronger path to prosperity and peace.
The time is now and the leader is Barack Obama. The Star endorses Obama for president of the United States.
Like a race car driver going into a turn, a leader must see not only what confronts our nation today but envision where we come out on the other side. Obama sees how the United States is connected to other nations through our economic, immigration, national security and energy policies. No one can thrive alone.
Obama sees a foreign policy where force is but one tool. He envisions countries collaborating to confront bad actors and shared challenges such as global warming, poverty, terrorism, disease and religious extremism.
Obama sees a health-care system in which children can go to the doctor and families aren’t forced into bankruptcy by medical bills. He experienced the same hardships many American families face. While his mother was dying of cancer, she battled her insurance company for care.
He embraces the strength of the free market, but sees that, in the United States today, the market doesn’t meet people’s health-care needs. He knows the heavy toll that inequitable public policies take on people’s lives. We agree with Obama that health care should be as affordable and accessible to as many people as possible.
Obama sees an economy creating jobs through innovation, helping families stay in their homes and lifting the middle class and small businesses. He would reduce taxes for the majority of Americans and not raise taxes on those making less than $250,000.
Obama sees education as an investment in America’s prosperity, political system and national security. He would expand early childhood education and protect funding for public schools. A college education is out of reach for many Americans. He would help make it more affordable through tuition tax credits.
He’s proved himself with his nuanced understanding of complicated issues. His vision is not built on rhetoric. He offers substantive, detailed policies and the acumen to make these changes a reality.
He demonstrates leadership by surrounding himself with smart people who will strengthen his administration. For vice president Obama chose Joseph Biden, a U.S. senator with 35 years of experience, a foreign policy expert qualified to be president.
Obama made a responsible, pragmatic and intelligent choice that shows us he puts the nation above party politics.
This moment in history requires courage to change. Our nation must find a way to restore the confidence that our government is of the people, by the people, for the people — all of our people.
We share Obama’s vision of America. And we share his urgency.
http://www.azstarnet.com/opinion/265275
Circulation 116,345 Daily 168,861 Sunday[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Daily_Star
Maybe all of us who post here have already voted — we are political “junkies.” For those who haven’t, there is “a national initiative to protect voting rights by monitoring the electoral process.” We are all concerned that each person eligible to vote have one vote and no abuses are allowed.
“We organize citizen journalists—ordinary folks like you and me—to document election problems as they occur. And then we distribute their footage to the mainstream media and online to make sure the full story of Election Day gets told.”
“Everyone who goes to vote, and has the technology to do it, should document their experience. Long lines? Vote flipping on touchscreen machines? People being turned away because of missing registration information? People leaving the line in frustration? You can help to record what is going on, so that we have the evidence necessary to push for real election reform.”
http://videothevote.org/
Great post Linda… thats a good idea… :-)
The only stories I have heard about voting machines, are the ones where the votes are being somehow flipped from Obama to McCain…
Anybody hear of any stories where the machines are flipping from McCain to Obama??
Wait… doesnt that one voting machine (Diebold)company have close ties to the RNC?? Hmmmm
PMama — You hang in there girl… The 24/7 oncall thing might not pay the biggest $$$$, but the rewards are phenomenal!! I got 30 years that backs up that claim…
I’ll call you next year lindainks when I fill out my mail-in ballot to see if there is any fraud going on.
What if say McCain comes in and starts shaking hands with people waiting to vote? What should we do then?
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Posted November 2, 2008 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
What if say McCain comes in and starts shaking hands with people waiting to vote? What should we do then?
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It’s probably illegal for him to do so in most states. Electioneering, including wearing campaign logo is usually not allowed at polling places.
Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry
“Amazing that this statement by Obama about bankrupting the coal industry has been kept under wraps until this time.
Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was willing to bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately be front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result? Nothing. This audio interview has been hidden from the public…until now.”
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
You gotta love that Islamic justice.
MOGADISHU, Somalia – Amnesty International says a 13-year-old rape victim has been stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants.
Citing witnesses, the human rights group says dozens of men stoned Aisha Duhulow to death Oct. 27 in a stadium packed with some 1,000 onlookers in the southern port city of Kismayo.
It says the militia in charge of Kismayo had accused the girl of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her.
Initial local media reports said Duhulow was 23, but her father told Amnesty International she was 13.
Does Arizona’s results come in early?
No, we hate that Islamic miscarriage of justice. This kind of brutality represents just a small radically extreme misapplication of Islamic teachings. All religions seem to pass through these barbaric periods. This too will pass.
These excesses can be curbed by a world that will work together making positive influences in these failed states.
Does Arizona’s results come in early?
No, quite the opposite.
Pima vote count could be a slow, painstaking ordeal
Full results may take days given large turnout, provisional ballots, new oversight guidelines
By Erica Meltzer and Daniel Scarpinato
Arizona Daily STar
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 11.01.2008
More here:
http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/265199
Oh another block-buster exposé?? zzzzzz zzzzzzz.
Everybody knows we need to lessen the world’s use of dirty, polluting coal.
Poor abused coal industry, wahhh wahhhh wahhhhh.
Obama is on record on a number of occasions as backing “Clean Coal” Looks like maybe Boxlock took the bogus bait yet again!! ROFL!!!
FACTS about John McCain…
Lived in a Communist nation for 5+ years.
Had free housing provided by a Communist nation.
Had free food provided by a Communist nation.
Talk regularly with Communist terrorists for 5+ years.
Made radio and video appearances with Communists over a 5+ year time frame.
ALL of the above are true statements. And these things happened as an ADULT – not when he was 8 years old.
Did McCain’s association with such terrorists have an influence on him in his Campaign to be President?
I guess it depends on how you want to spin it… or not…
Governor Twinkie gets the crowd actually cheering at the word ‘coal’. Wahhhaaaa!!!!
They have managed to politicize a mineral!
My wife made me canvas for Obama; here’s what I learned
This election is not about major policies. It’s about hope.
Charlotte, N.C. – There has been a lot of speculation that Barack Obama might win the election due to his better “ground game” and superior campaign organization.
I had the chance to view that organization up close this month when I canvassed for him. I’m not sure I learned much about his chances, but I learned a lot about myself and about this election.
Let me make it clear: I’m pretty conservative. I grew up in the suburbs. I voted for George H.W. Bush twice, and his son once. I was disappointed when Bill Clinton won, and disappointed he couldn’t run again.
I encouraged my son to join the military. I was proud of him in Afghanistan, and happy when he came home, and angry when he was recalled because of the invasion of Iraq. I’m white, 55, I live in the South and I’m definitely going to get a bigger tax bill if Obama wins.
I am the dreaded swing voter.
So you can imagine my surprise when my wife suggested we spend a Saturday morning canvassing for Obama. I have never canvassed for any candidate. But I did, of course, what most middle-aged married men do: what I was told.
At the Obama headquarters, we stood in a group to receive our instructions. I wasn’t the oldest, but close, and the youngest was maybe in high school. I watched a campaign organizer match up a young black man who looked to be college age with a white guy about my age to canvas together. It should not have been a big thing, but the beauty of the image did not escape me.
Instead of walking the tree-lined streets near our home, my wife and I were instructed to canvass a housing project. A middle-aged white couple with clipboards could not look more out of place in this predominantly black neighborhood.
We knocked on doors and voices from behind carefully locked doors shouted, “Who is it?”
“We’re from the Obama campaign,” we’d answer. And just like that doors opened and folks with wide smiles came out on the porch to talk.
Grandmothers kept one hand on their grandchildren and made sure they had all the information they needed for their son or daughter to vote for the first time.
Young people came to the door rubbing sleep from their eyes to find out where they could vote early, to make sure their vote got counted.
We knocked on every door we could find and checked off every name on our list. We did our job, but Obama may not have been the one who got the most out of the day’s work.
I learned in just those three hours that this election is not about what we think of as the “big things.”
It’s not about taxes. I’m pretty sure mine are going to go up no matter who is elected.
It’s not about foreign policy. I think we’ll figure out a way to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan no matter which party controls the White House, mostly because the people who live there don’t want us there anymore.
I don’t see either of the candidates as having all the answers.
I’ve learned that this election is about the heart of America. It’s about the young people who are losing hope and the old people who have been forgotten. It’s about those who have worked all their lives and never fully realized the promise of America, but see that promise for their grandchildren in Barack Obama. The poor see a chance, when they often have few. I saw hope in the eyes and faces in those doorways.
My wife and I went out last weekend to knock on more doors. But this time, not because it was her idea. I don’t know what it’s going to do for the Obama campaign, but it’s doing a lot for me.
Jonathan Curley is a banker. He voted for George H.W. Bush twice and George W. Bush once.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1103/p09s02-coop.html
A new national poll suggests Americans may not be as concerned about one party if Obama wins the White House.
In a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Sunday, 50 percent of likely voters questioned said if Obama wins the White House, Congress should be controlled by Democrats, with 48 percent saying it should be controlled by Republicans.
But if McCain wins the presidential election, 59 percent said Congress should be controlled by Democrats, with 39 percent saying it should be controlled by Republicans.
The Democrats currently have a 235 to 199 majority in the House of Representatives and a 51 to 49 majority in the Senate — the chamber’s two independent senators are allied with the Democrats.
The poll suggests that 53 percent think McCain would mostly carry out Bush’s policies, with 45 percent saying he would not. As for Bush, only 28 percent approve of the way he’s handling his job as president.
What an interesting website!
Republicans for Obama
http://www.republicansforobama.org/
Imagine an America under President Barack Obama
Step beyond the world where the gravity of experience and low expectations keep us anchored exactly where we are.
Look into the future.
Imagine a Barack Obama presidency.
The tone was set in Denver.
“I love this country, and so do you, and so does John McCain,” the candidate said.
I was there. I watched the diverse crowd drink in the message like cool water after a hot August day.
“Let us agree that patriotism has no party,” he said.
People waved little flags and loved their country. It felt good.
“We all love our country.”
Obama continued that theme on the stump.
He practices the politics of addition, not division.
This is why an Obama presidency will leave us better off in four years.
America will respond to Obama because we’ve been longing for a president who remembers the “united” in United States.
more at:
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/2008/11/02/20081102vip-valdez1102.html
Linda you appear to be trying very hard to convince yourself that Obama is the right person for the job. I hope for our countries sake you are right. I have my doubts.
Lib radio announcer in CA caught asking for the death of Joe the Plummer. The guy must be a wanta be Muslin and secret terrorist?
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=211483&comments=1
Great cartoon. Heavy even.
http://www.claybennett.com/images/archivetoons/security.jpg
Hope is scary, wefu.
I’d rather see someone in office who is at least willing to try and unite the country and take it in a new direction. I don’t see anything that McCain is proposing that will make a significant difference from where we are now. McCain has campaigned based on fear, Obama has campaigned based on hope. America is ready for some hope.
Chas Posted November 2, 2008 at 4:16 pm |
“Obama is on record on a number of occasions as backing “Clean Coal” Looks like maybe Boxlock took the bogus bait yet again!! ROFL!!!”
The faux preacher either is lying again or is just too plain lazy to look it up, maybe to stupid to be able to look it up.
So here I’ll help.
“Sunday, November 02, 2008
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO– Obama Promises San Francisco Audience He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry!!
OBAMA TOLD A SAN FRANCISCO AUDIENCE THAT HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY!!!”
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/11/shocking-new-audio-obama-promises-to.html
Obama himself, recorded saying just that. Listen to it faux preacher, listen and then lie or make an a$$ of yourself again.
Or here, another site link, same recorded statements.
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
And here are his recorded statements:
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It’s just that it will bankrupt them.”
The faux preacher, looking as nervous as a faux preacher caught in a whore house, ha.
So Obama really did say that he would bankrupt the coal industry. Unbelievable! When he gets around his San Francisco liberal friends, you see the real Obama.
Stop and think what that means. It means that the savior Obama thinks that it is the job of the President to decide what industries are worthy of survival. And which he should use the power of the presidency to bankrupt. As an American, it makes me ill. If he followed through, it would be reason to remove him from office.
I bet that comment plays as well in Pennsylvania as his gun and Bibles comment.
kinda makes you proud don’t it
http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/prison_labor_jun00.html
snip
MAJOR NEWSPAPERS, The Sun included, have devoted much space to diatribes against Chinese industry’s use of prison labor. Coverage of prison labor in America, however, is sparse and superficial.
Yet private industries’ subcontracting of manufacturing and service work to state prison agencies has almost imperceptibly become big business in the U.S., and new proposed federal legislation, if passed, will add federal prisons to the mix.
Wisconsin, Oregon, California, Tennessee, Kansas, Ohio, Nevada and Texas have been in the forefront of offering state prison labor to private industry. Some states are promoting their prison labor force to industry as an alternative to taking jobs overseas for cheap labor.
Prisoners are being employed as data entry clerks, telemarketers, circuit board assemblers, furniture or clothing makers, and order-takers, among other jobs. In a report published by the National Institute of Justice, Jeff Black, TWA’s director of area reservations, is quoted as saying, “We know that [prisoners trained as ticket-reservation agents] are not going to be late for work because of a traffic jam on the freeway. That kind of dependability is important to us.”
Prisoners do not retain all their earnings; fiscal arrangements differ from state to state. After federal and state taxes are withheld, somewhere between 41% and 80% of a prisoner’s wages is applied toward costs of incarceration……
Senator Obama is simply saying that carbon emissions are going to cost. Pollution has a societal cost, and eventually it may be monetized.
No big secret here. He was talking to a reporter fer chissake he knew full well what he was saying.
No smoking gun. No gotcha.
I wonder if the people of Pennsylvania knows about Obama’s promise to bankrupt the coal industry, as Pennsylvania is a large coal producing state, as are other states along that mountain range.
Maybe you could search until you find every blog originating in Pennsylvania, check out the newspapers too and make them aware! Post, post, post! Hurry, time is running short.
“promise to bankrupt the coal industry”
That isn’t at all what Obama said but then Boxlock and Regular feel it’s OK to bear false witness against him and flat out LIE.
Pathetic soulless egos.
What your butts guys, ’cause karma gonna bite you there.
You betcha!
Pennsylvanians already know, here is one blog entry.
http://www.thedailyconservative.net/2008/11/02/obama-plans-to-kill-coal-production/
What a relief!
We Asked McCain.
John McCain deserves one last opportunity to address the concerns of Republicans who plan on voting against him this election day.
Between September and October, members of Republicans for Obama submitted questions they’d like to ask of Senator McCain. The ten most popular were then mailed to the McCain campaign on October 23rd. They are as follows:
1. Why do you propose to tax the health care benefits of Americans, at a time when most Americans are already struggling?
2. You voted for the balanced budget amendment. With our recent budget shortfalls, why did you then change your position and vote for the Bush tax cuts?
3. You once referred to Jerry Falwell as an “agent of intolerance.” Why did you later seek his support?
4. Will you release your complete medical and military records? If not, why?
5. Do you believe you are conducting an issue oriented campaign, or a personality oriented campaign?
6. You chose the governor with the largest number of earmark requests over the past two years as your running mate. Why?
7. Why did you leave the Episcopal Church?
8. In 2000, you were smeared by G.W. Bush and lost the primary. Knowing how it feels, why would you condone such tactics now?
9. If George W. Bush could run for president this year and was the GOP’s nominee, who would you vote for– Bush or Obama?
10. The National Review says that your tax plan offers “very little in the way of direct benefits” to middle class Americans. Are they wrong or are you wrong?
I have a hard time discerning the difference between right wing bloggers and republicans anymore. I used to think most republicans did truly love America, but after this administration, and watching the defend, deflect, deny…I can’t see it.
From Regular’s arm flailing Pennsylvania Blog warning of the “evil Obama”:
What is your party affiliation and who are you voting for?
Republican/McCain (50%, 3 Votes)
Democrat/Obama (33%, 2 Votes)
Other (17%, 1 Votes)
Republican/Obama (0%, 0 Votes)
Democrat/McCain (0%, 0 Votes)
Republican/Other (0%, 0 Votes)
Democrat/Other (0%, 0 Votes)
Total Voters: 6
A WHOPPING TOTAL OF 6 VOTES MY FRIENDS.
Boy Regular, the word has really gotten out.
(chortles)
If you don’t want to laugh your guts out all night don’t go here: http://truckbearingkibble.com/comic-archive/
Let’s see, maybe if Boxlock goes to that website and votes, then there will be SEVEN!!!!!
Both you soulless egos have the sin of deliberately lying to pay for.
Maybe you could search until you find every blog originating in Pennsylvania, check out the newspapers too and make them aware! Post, post, post! Hurry, time is running short.
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I don’t think that will be a problem Linda. Palin is talking about it and in the coal state of Pennsylvania (which happens to be a big swing state too) commercials are in production for Monday. It’s the closing that McCain was looking for.
Regardless of it’s affect, it is still an extremely scary look into the club that Obama is going to use on industry that he doesn’t like.
mxyzptlk Posted November 2, 2008 at 7:53 pm |
“promise to bankrupt the coal industry”
That isn’t at all what Obama said but then Boxlock and Regular feel it’s OK to bear false witness against him and flat out LIE.
Pathetic soulless egos.
What your butts guys, ’cause karma gonna bite you there.
You betcha!
That is exactly what he said and if you weren’t so brain-dead or such a lying DimLib you could listen to it yourself. Are you that incompetent.
Here stupid:
And here are his recorded statements:
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It’s just that it will bankrupt them.”
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/11/shocking-new-audio-obama-promises-to.html
A little tip stupid, use the link! And then come back lying again.
McCain’s fearmongering and attacks have really worked well for him in the past…go Johnny go!
The best one is Fossilwood.
Boxlock he did not say “promise to bankrupt the coal industry” and you are a liar.
Jesus loves you but hates the lies you tell.
““We know that [prisoners trained as ticket-reservation agents] are not going to be late for work because of a traffic jam on the freeway. That kind of dependability is important to us.”
Prisoners do not retain all their earnings; fiscal arrangements differ from state to state. After federal and state taxes are withheld, somewhere between 41% and 80% of a prisoner’s wages is applied toward costs of incarceration……”
I thought of okobserver when I read that.
“I’d rather see someone in office who is at least willing to try and unite the country and take it in a new direction.”
Unity and good intentions are fine. But I am afraid the cons are not a very cooperative lot.
When I think of them, a bit of one of my favorite movies comes to mind….
“I don’t think the system works.”
” Well, what would you do to make it work?”
” We need a goverment to sit down, decide what is best for ALL the people and then just do it.”
“Well, that’s what we have. The problem is that people don’t always agree.”
“Well then, they should be made to.”
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Posted November 2, 2008 at 8:10 pm | Permalink
McCain’s fearmongering and attacks have really worked well for him in the past…go Johnny go!
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When someone like Obama says he promises to destroy an entire industry such as coal and a state like Pennsylvania relies heavily on the monies that coals bring into the state, along with the powering of their industries and homes, I would think Obamites would be gravely concerned in losing that state completely.
Recorded Obama interview saying we will bankrupt the coal industry on which “The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster….So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It’s just that it will bankrupt them.”
No mxyzptlk, child, you are the liar. I have the recording to prove my position.
You have nothing but you…..and that’s nothing.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/11/shocking-new-audio-obama-promises-to.html
FOR ELECTRIC POWER
Coal is used to generate almost half of all electricity produced in the United States. Besides electric utility companies, industries and businesses with their own power plants use coal to generate electricity. Power plants burn coal to make steam. The steam turns turbines which generate electricity.
FOR INDUSTRY
A variety of industries use coal’s heat and by-products. Separated ingredients of coal (such as methanol and ethylene) are used in making plastics, tar, synthetic fibers, fertilizers, and medicines. The concrete and paper industries also burn large amounts of coal.
FOR MAKING STEEL
Coal is baked in hot furnaces to make coke, which is used to smelt iron ore into iron needed for making steel. It is the very high temperatures created from the use of coke that gives steel the strength and flexibility for products such as bridges, buildings, and automobiles.
FOR EXPORT
In 2006, 49.6 million short tons, or about four percent of the coal mined, was exported to other countries from the United States. Coal is exported to many different countries, but most trade is with Canada, Brazil, the Netherlands, and Italy. More than half of coal exports are used for making steel.
And ‘The One’ wants to bankrupt and industry so vital to the well being of so many people both for income and to heat and power their homes.
What an ass he will make of himself, and is already.
“…gravely concerned…”
Won’t have long to wait, will we? I don’t see how worrying is going to change anything so I think I’ll continue to enjoy the ride. Fear adds nothing to my life so I’ll skip that too.
Either Obama is a man of his word (words is all he has for now) or he isn’t.
When Obama says he would raise cap and trade on carbon offsets so expensive that it would bankrupt anyone wanting to build a coal plant. This not only has a trickle down effect to the coal industry, but to the economies of several states in north eastern United States.
So Libs, is Obama a man of his word or not? If he said he would raise the cap and trade system to try and bankrupt the coal industry, then we have to take his word don’t we?
Or, is Obama a liar?
Worth a look! A great read, contrast this with ‘The One’.
> http://wingmenformccain.com/
Comes the FUTURE you con luddites!
Coal is the past. Oil is the past.
YOU cons are the past.
Join us in making America the world leader in the technologies of the FUTURE. You should be ashamed holding your country back.
Good Point Regular, but we both know Obama is not a man of his word….not even a real man.
He is the epitome of a lying politician that will say anything in whatever circumstance to get elected.
You guys won’t need to worry or attempt to blog until your fingers are numb from overuse! It’s covered! Robocalls — that’s the ticket!
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Republicans to Try Burning Obama on Coal
November 02, 2008 3:23 PM
“I’m calling on behalf of John McCain and the RNC to tell you that coal jobs, which are so important to our community are in jeopardy,” says the robocall being made to voters in Pennsylvania and Ohio, among other coal-producing states.
Continues the robocall: “Listen to Barack Obama’s plans to bankrupt the coal industry.”
There are going to be new standards and definitions for this patriotism thing to.
The NEW definition of a true American will apply to those who do more than wave a flag.
REAL Americans care about each other as to economic and social welfare. REAL Americans want their country to be BETTER, not settle for calling it the best and letting that be enough.
I think some, perhaps many of you cons will come to be seen as flag waving, faux Americans.
Bout time.
And then there’s BlueJay, who can’t pay his own way in the world as is, and lusts after what other people earn. He wants to do away with what drives the industry of this country, but you know what….it’s incompetents like BlueJay that will die first when the economy dies. Oh…too bad, he didn’t think of that.
January 2008 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle
You be the judge. Here’s the entirety of Obama’s remarks:
“I voted against the Clear Skies Bill. In fact, I was the deciding vote — despite the fact that I’m a coal state and that half my state thought that I had thoroughly betrayed them. Because I think clean air is critical and global warming is critical.
“But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is, is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon. And how can we sequester that carbon and capture it. If we can’t, then we’re gonna still be working on alternatives.
“But … let me sort of describe my overall policy. What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade policy in place that is as aggressive if not more aggressive than anyone out there. I was the first call for 100 percent auction on the cap and trade system. Which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases that was emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants are being built, they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted-down caps that are imposed every year.
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted. That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel, and other alternative energy approaches. The only thing that I’ve said with respect to coal — I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as an ideological matter, as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it, that I think is the right approach. The same with respect to nuclear. Right now, we don’t know how to store nuclear waste wisely and we don’t know how to deal with some of the safety issues that remain. And so it’s wildly expensive to pursue nuclear energy. But I tell you what, if we could figure out how to store it safely, then I think most of us would say that might be a pretty good deal.
“The point is, if we set rigorous standards for the allowable emissions, then we can allow the market to determine and technology and entrepreneurs to pursue, what the best approach is to take, as opposed to us saying at the outset, here are the winners that we’re picking and maybe we pick wrong and maybe we pick right.”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/republicans-to.html
Too late lindainks, we already heard Obama’s words.
Dressing up the foul deed with other words doesn’t act as a defense for his Stalinist-like tactics to bankrupt industries.
Real Americans work for a living and take care of their own, and don’t expect to take from others that which is not theirs to take.
Now that Socialist chant up above, would involve waiving a solid RED Marxist flag.
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”
—Obama
That is exactly what he said!
Voice of Hillary Clinton heard in robo-call
“In the White House there is no time for speeches and on-the-job training. Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign and Senator Obama will bring a speech that he gave in 2002. I think that is a significant difference,” the voice of Clinton is heard saying.
I DO work for a living, Jimmuh in any nic.
How about you?
“Real Americans work for a living and take care of their own, and don’t expect to take from others that which is not theirs to take.
Now that Socialist chant up above, would involve waiving a solid RED Marxist flag.”
Good Point Jim, good point!
What you said is worth re-posting, though I doubt BM, I mean BJ, can even understand it.
And YOU don’t “work” either box.
You’re a salesman and make nothing.
Give it up Junior, I had already been working for twenty years, while you were starting grow pubes.
Mature Presidents Outperform Young
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Of all our presidents since World War II, the three who ranked highest among all American presidents in a 2005 survey of scholars by the Wall Street Journal were:
• Ronald Reagan: No. 6 of 43 presidents, inaugurated within weeks of his 70th birthday.
• Harry Truman: No. 7, inaugurated at age 60.
• Dwight Eisenhower: No. 8, inaugurated at 62.
The three youngest presidents since WWII were:
Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were both elected president at relatively young ages, and both made grave mistakes that directly led to the deep foreign policy problems we have today. The next president will face serious issues, from al-Qaida to Iran to Russia to the economy, which will require a maturity achievable only through age and experience.
• John Kennedy: ranked No. 15, inaugurated at 43.
• Bill Clinton: No. 22, inaugurated at 46.
• Jimmy Carter: No. 34, inaugurated at 52.
In a 2000 survey by the Federalist Society and the Journal, 78 scholars in history, politics and law were asked to name the most overrated president. A shocking 43 of the 78 picked Kennedy.
“Kennedy brought the Cold War to dangerous heights,” political scientist Bruce Miroff said.
First came the failed Cuban Bay of Pigs episode. Six weeks later, the Soviet Union’s 67-year-old Nikita Khrushchev sized up the then 44-year-old Kennedy in Vienna and two months later quickly built the Berlin Wall, which lasted for 28 years. Only two months after it was built, U.S. and Soviet tanks faced off for 16 hours at the Wall. Kennedy next dramatically escalated our involvement in Vietnam. And after that, Khrushchev nearly started World War III when he armed Cuba with nuclear missiles.
One month after President Clinton took office in 1993, the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history up to that date occurred with the bombing of New York’s World Trade Center twin towers. During Clinton’s eight years in office, Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida bombed U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, killing 250 and injuring 6,000; bombed U.S.-Saudi facilities in 1995 and 1996, killing Americans; and in 2000 bombed the USS Cole.
Through all this, according to the 9/11 Commission Report, the Clinton administration had 10 different chances to get bin Laden. Intelligence knew just where he was, but was never able to make the final decisions or take effective action.
Riding the peace dividend created when Reagan won the Cold War with the Soviet Union, the late 1990s Clinton years were an “anything goes” wild bubble period that finally broke apart from early 2000 to January 2001, with the Nasdaq declining 56%, the sharpest market drop since 1929.
But that’s not all. In addition to being ineffective against al-Qaida and being a part of the bubble stock-market crash in 2000, the Clinton administration and Democrats were the major cause behind the frenzied real estate subprime-mortgage bubble that blew up and caused the most recent stock-market panic, sent companies into bankruptcy, wrecked 401(k)s and forced the government to rescue our collapsing financial system.
Clinton and Democrats mandated through quotas and ratings that banks significantly increase their loans to lower-income people in the inner city who otherwise would have never qualified. It was well-intended, but incompetent, resulting in enormous numbers of loans made with little or no down payments or no checking of standard credit ratings. These are many of the loans that have resulted in rampant home foreclosures. It was another gigantic mismanaged government program that was a colossal failure, not a failure of the free market system.
When attempts were made to enact some control and limits over the enormous leverage of up to 50-1 being used by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, congressional Democrats continually defeated efforts to put in sound controls and loan ratios.
ACORN, possibly involved in voter registration irregularities, was also able to collect substantial commissions for its part in marketing these risky subprime loans.
President Carter lost one country after another to the expansionist Soviet Union. He withdrew U.S. contracts for defense supplies intended for the Shah of Iran because he didn’t like the Shah’s human rights treatment of jailed Soviet agents who for years tried to undermine Iran’s government. Because we stopped supporting our strongest ally in a volatile area of the world, Iran was overthrown, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the ruling mullahs are now well on their way to having nuclear weapons.
Tehran has promised to wipe Israel off of the map in one blow. The regime also created and financed the terrorist group Hezbollah.
When Carter, who had been a one-term governor, first met the older Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev, the USSR quickly invaded Afghanistan. Carter, the naive appeaser, said: “I can’t believe the Russians lied to me.” The Soviets ran wild on Carter and also took over Ethiopia, South Yemen, Angola, Cambodia, Mozambique, Grenada and Nicaragua.
Our next president will face a resurgent Russia run by Vladimir Putin and his KGB friends, Iran and its nuclear program, and al-Qaida and other terrorists who want an atomic weapon. Do we want to elect another young president, possibly a Carter or a Neville Chamberlain type, who will get fooled by our dangerous enemies who are masters of deceit?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=310346667376102
“And YOU don’t “work” either box.
You’re a salesman and make nothing.”
Oh, yet I have assets in excess of seven figures, exclusive of paid off cars and home, building lots on a lake in southeast Texas and farm ground.
Tell me I don’t work junior. What a joke you are and will remain if you don’t get off your a$$ and work for a change.
American, your pieces are pathetic.
I knew I didn’t like you Box.
You have SO much and I so little Box.
And yet? Lil’ ol’ me can change you into a red faced, shrill clown. With you your eager if unwilling help of course.
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BlueJay
Posted November 2, 2008 at 9:07 pm | Permalink
You have SO much and I so little Box.
And yet? Lil’ ol’ me can change you into a red faced, shrill clown. With you your eager if unwilling help of course.
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People outside of this blog and their lives outside of this blog think of you as a dog turd on a sidewalk Junior.
Any power you think you have over people is the horrible stench you let off from your delusional ego.
That’s not power, that’s repulsion.
I don’t feel good about shoving it in your face BJ, but if your attitude were very widespread it would bring this country down. Do you think money and assets are just provided by a nanny government, can be provided by a nanny government?
If so it’s a lie.
I’m strictly middle America, moderate income, but I have saved like crazy and invested for years and you know what….you deserve none of it as you haven’t lifted a finger for it. Heck, I’ve lost 250K to 300K lately, but I’ll do okay because I’ll keep at it.
What are you and you kind doing BJ, just what are you doing to help yourself and those around you. You aren’t even in a position to contribute anything….and where are those “friends” you have that were going to help with the health insurance. Chirp, chirp….Ha, not even posting lately.
Help yourself.
Nah Jimmuh, you’ve pretty much described how it is that people see you.
You guys getting warmed up for Wednesday?
I
can’t
wait!
Defining Problems With Socialism For The Post-Cold War Generation
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, October 27, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Election ‘08: John McCain has finally called Barack Obama’s agenda by its proper name. But if he assumes voters understand what he means when he uses the word “socialism,” he assumes too much.
To slap a label on it isn’t enough. Sadly, most people under 60 in this country went to schools and universities where socialism isn’t considered a bad thing.
McCain has to educate them about what socialists believe and how they want to rebuild “the world as it should be,” as Obama quotes his socialist hero, Saul Alinsky.
In this final week of the campaign, McCain should draw contrasts between socialism and capitalism and free enterprise. He should also explain in detail what economic freedoms are at risk if liberal socialists get their way in reshaping the country from both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue.
McCain has smartly seized on Obama’s revealing side-comment to Joe the Plumber about his plan to “spread the wealth around.” The GOP hopeful says it smacks of socialism, and he’s right. But socialist sympathizers in the punditry have pooh-poohed his sound bites as passe or even racist.
Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter, for example, argued that socialism no longer has the evil connotation it had during the Cold War, when the right used it to bludgeon the left. Kansas City Star columnist Lewis Diuguid, meanwhile, dismissed the “socialist” label as merely a “code word for black.”
Many economists would equate what Obama has in mind with socialism. Among them is the late F.A. Hayek, a one-time socialist, who wrote a book on the dangers of socialism titled “The Road to Serfdom.” When it debuted in the final days of WWII, socialism unambiguously meant the state control of the means of production and central economic planning.
But decades later, in a new preface, the Nobel Prize winner wrote that “socialism has come to mean chiefly the extensive redistribution of incomes through taxation and the institutions of the welfare state.” Yes, that’s Obama’s economic plan.
He concluded that even this softer socialism means reduced economic liberties, opportunities and living standards for all.
According to Marxist theory, socialism is the stage between capitalism and communism where private wealth is distributed for the benefit of all. It’s a romantic notion because hardly anyone is willing to share their wealth with strangers.
So to get from theory to practice, force must be used. Wealth must be taken by the state — and not by a faceless bureaucratic machine, but rather by flawed humans with their own selfish ambitions and ulterior motives. They decide who gets what, taking cuts for themselves and their cronies in the process.
Think ex-Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines and ACORN.
Socialism is centralized power. That’s why socialist movements, which often begin as cults of personality, usually end in fascism. Witness Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism — and, yes, Nazism, which, as Hayek noted, stands for “National Socialism.”
Again, almost every major society that started with socialism has ended badly. Socialism has been refuted repeatedly, yet that hasn’t stopped neo-Marxists — hiding now behind the title “community organizer” — from dreaming their dreams of collective sacrifice for collective good.
They see capitalism with its profit motive as vulgar and immoral because it’s at odds with altruism — the idea that the general welfare of society is the proper goal of individuals.
What they fail to realize is society is the greatest beneficiary of our system of rational self-interest. The poorest of the poor and the laziest of the lazy still benefit from the genius of the entrepreneur and the risk-taking of the venture capitalist.
Almost every modern-day invention, from lifesaving drugs to computer software, was inspired by profit, not public welfare. Yet everyone shares in the greater efficiencies, cost savings, life expectancies and job opportunities created by the inspiration and perspiration of money-hungry individuals.
No system in history has created more wealth, per capita, over a shorter time than unbridled American capitalism.
In fact, America has led what economist Angus Maddison calls the “capitalist epoch” — a 17-decade period in which workers saw their hours cut in half and life expectancy doubled. In a seminal study last decade, Maddison calculated the aggregate output and population growth in the U.S. and 15 other advanced capitalist nations since 1820. He found a 14-fold explosion in combined per capita product, dwarfing the living standards of communist and other nations.
Ignoring this history, the left uses the current financial crisis to redefine capitalism as “dangerous” to the welfare of mankind, and to justify greater government economic controls.
“Market capitalism is a dangerous tool, like a machine gun or a chainsaw or a nuclear reactor,” former Clinton budget chief Alice Rivlin last week told Democratic Rep. Barney Frank’s finance committee. And she’s a moderate in her party.
The left wrongly asserts that unregulated capitalism caused the financial crisis; in fact, government overregulation of banks distorted market incentives and corrupted capitalism.
Wielding a socialist-inspired cudgel called the Community Reinvestment Act, government forced banks to make loans to uncreditworthy minorities who couldn’t repay them.
It didn’t matter that banks weren’t racist. The assumption was they might be, and it was government’s role to enforce “fairness.” The same assumptions are made about the rich.
“The problems of poverty and racism, the uninsured and the unemployed are . . . rooted in societal indifference and individual callousness — the desire among those at the top of the social ladder to maintain their wealth and status whatever the cost,” Obama wrote in his 2006 autobiography. “Solving these problems will require changes in government policy.”
In other words, people get rich on the backs of the poor, even take from the poor. It’s therefore up to the state to take from the rich and give to the poor. In a feudal or colonial society, such a sentiment might be noble. But capitalism is a system in which one person lives well and another person lives better.
The idea that whole classes of people are exploited or oppressed in this country is a figment of the left’s class-obsessed imagination. And it’s refuted by Federal Reserve data showing constant income mobility even between the lowest and highest quintiles. Policy shouldn’t be built on such fantasy.
Still, Obama insists that spreading the wealth is “good for everybody.” But as the rich shelter capital or reduce their work to avoid higher taxes, all Obama will end up “spreading” is poverty and all he’d redistribute is more power to Washington.
He argues that raising taxes is not socialism, and he’s right: By itself, it is not. But it is socialism when the motive is “for purposes of fairness,” as Obama explains it, which is simply class-warfare jargon for punishing the rich.
“Was John McCain a socialist when he opposed the Bush tax cuts?” Obama asks. No, McCain wanted spending cuts first. His motive was fiscal restraint, not restraint on society’s most productive members. Obama further argues that redistributing wealth to the needy is better than redistributing it to greedy bankers as the Bush administration has done. Actually, both policies are wrong, since both favor groups over individuals.
Obama denies having socialist designs. But it’s no coincidence he virtually always votes with socialist pal Bernie Sanders, as the two most liberal members of the Senate.
Nor is it a coincidence that nearly all of Obama’s mentors and close advisers supported Marxism, including: James Cone, Dwight Hopkins, Jeremiah Wright, Frank Marshall Davis, Jim Wallis, John McKnight, Cornel West and William Ayers.
It’s also no coincidence that Obama devoted his first memoir to the memory of his late father, a communist, who proposed massive taxes and redistribution of income in Kenya.
“What is more important is to find means by which we can redistribute our economic gains to the benefit of all,” wrote Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a Harvard-educated economist, in a 1965 policy paper. “This is the government’s obligation.”
Make no mistake: Sen. Obama isn’t a liberal in the tradition of Jimmy Carter or John Kerry. He envisions a bloodless socialism, where IRS agents take wealth and where the Justice Department dictates contracts between labor and management.
But while force isn’t used for murder, it’s force nonetheless. And it does violence to the American promise of a right to pursue your own life, your own riches and your own happiness without government interference. America promises a chance at success, yet Obama and other neo-Marxists twist that to mean America guarantees success through equal outcomes, and that it’s government’s role to do the equalizing.
“What would help minority workers,” Obama wrote in 2006, “are tax laws that restore some balance to the distribution of the nation’s wealth.”
“It may sound noble to say, ‘Damn economics, let us build up a decent world,’ but it is, in fact, merely irresponsible,” Hayek wrote. “Our only chance of building a decent world is that we can continue to improve the general level of wealth.”
If Obama wins, he can claim a national mandate for his socialist agenda. If he gets a filibuster-proof majority of Democrats in the Senate, he might get major planks in that radical agenda passed in the first 100 days. It’s shaping up as a battle between those who create wealth and those who loot it.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=309998752298369
Whatever you do for ‘work’ BJ, is not bringing in enough to pay for health insurance for your son.
“Working For A Living” means supporting yourself and your family without taking from others.
A part-time 20 hr/week job is NOT “Working For A Living”.
P_mama, do you think I care???
Not in the least, so don’t make a further fool of yourself.
What do you DimLibs contribute, nothing, yet call us down. I write donation checks every week, and have money withheld from pay as well….now what the hell can someone like JR do except criticize and want the government to give him and his kind a handout.
BullS.
Regular
Posted November 2, 2008 at 9:10 pm | Permalink
People outside of this blog and their lives outside of this blog think of you as a dog turd on a sidewalk Junior.
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Speak for yourself Regular. I didn’t think BJ was THAT good. That’s an insult to dog turds everywhere.
“Political_mama
Posted November 2, 2008 at 9:05 pm | Permalink
American, your pieces are pathetic.
Better wake up!
America, better wake up!
It’s no longer God bless America, but God save America!
“Whatever you do for ‘work’ BJ, is not bringing in enough to pay for health insurance for your son.”
And I am one of SO many and that number growing every day. Your point Jimmuh?
Do try to stick in a nic.
Agree American, Obama is as pure a Socialist that has ever ran for President before.
Unfortunately, the Radical Left thinks being Socialist is a good thing.
The public schools have indoctrinated kids for over 30 years now, how great Big Nanny Government is a great thing!
When Obama stood up in the last election and lied to over 50 million people about where his state senate campaign was kicked off I knew he is a pathalogical liar. The left want someone so bad for ‘their’ president that they are refusing to look at the man behind the words. He has many radical ties, had told many lies that have been proven, talks to the group he is in front of and changes his story for the next group. Has talked about spending almost a trillion dollars in new programs. He scares me. I sincerely hope I am wrong. Our country is in trouble if the person I think he will prove to be is elected.
BlueBird, my dear boy,
Half of the people of the 40 million uninsured people in America are what?
Illegal Aliens!
Why do you want to insure illegal aliens?
20 million, at that?
“Why do you want to insure illegal aliens?
20 million, at that?”
I don’t. But I am not bringing them here.
Greedy Americans and American companies are bringing them here. Swing and a miss.
Hey BlueBird!
No they are being ALLOWED to cross the border illegaly. We MUST SECURE our borders.
And then the libs are willing to give them benefits without being citizens.
Even voting in some circumstances.
“We MUST SECURE our borders.”
AND heavily fine and punish those who hire illegals.
Judge tells White House to release wiretapping docs
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Play Video Video: Bali prepares for executions Australia 7 News Play Video Video: Police: Suspect terrorized couple to rob Surprise B of A KTVK 3TV Phoenix Play Video Video: Mother arrested for child endangerment KVUE-TV Austin WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Bush administration must give to a federal court documents related to government wiretapping of domestic communications without a warrant after the September 11 attacks, according to a recent court order.
U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy signed the order on Friday requiring the U.S. Justice Department to provide the court for private review certain documents that were sought in lawsuits filed by the civil liberties groups.
Kennedy ordered the administration to provide the documents from the White House Office of Legal Counsel by November 17, and said he will review them in private to see if their release would endanger national security.
The department argued that it was serving as the attorney for the administration and thus attorney-client privilege would allow it to keep classified information from public viewing, but Kennedy said its arguments were too vague.
“The attorney-client privilege is not necessarily the means for protecting this information,” the order said. “Without more information, the court cannot conclude that the attorney-client privilege applies.”
Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman, said: “We’re reviewing the opinion and will respond appropriately in court.”
(Reporting by John Poirier, editing by Jackie Frank)
Political Mom,
You are now one of the evil Managers that BJ hates. According to BJ, P-Mom you are now getting rich off the sweat of others working for you.
Don’t you know, it’s EVIL to work for a Company. It’s even more EVIL to be a manager and thus represent the Company. You must be taking advantage of your employees.
You have to wonder about mccain’s claim of being tortured for five yrs. when he started cooperating on th 4th day. That would be pure stupidity on the part of the commies, to punish the collaborators right along with those that held out.
His scars and suffering was probably the result of inferior medical treatment as opposed to the U.S.’s.
Boxlock has been taiken hook, line, and sinker, YET AGAIN!!! Wherever those web sites are that you “found” they are not current, NOR accurate… They seem to be from JANUARY, 2008… when Obama was running against…. Democrats… for the NOMINATION!!
NOW read the ACCURATE Obam/Biden Energy Vision >>>> Geez, Boxlicker, I swear you and Granny Goodwitch went to the same remedial reading school down in them thar hills of OkieHomie…..
• Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology. Carbon capture and storage technologies hold
enormous potential to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions as we power our economy with
domestically produced and secure energy. As a U.S. Senator, Obama has worked tirelessly to
ensure that clean coal technology becomes commercialized. An Obama administration will
provide incentives to accelerate private sector investment in commercial scale zero?carbon coal
facilities. In order to maximize the speed with which we advance this critical technology, Barack
Obama and Joe Biden will instruct DOE to enter into public private partnerships to develop 5
“first?of?a?kind” commercial scale coal?fired plants with carbon capture and sequestration.
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/factsheet_energy_speech_080308.pdf
Chas,
So was it your stroke which caused you to TYPE these WORDS in CAPS?
“YET AGAIN”
“NOR”
“JAUNARY”
“NOMINATION”
“NOW”
“ACCURATE”
A stroke can also cause words to be misssspeeelllled and BOLDED, too.
What causes nic switching?
BlueJay,
Who cares? Since when did you start caring about any kind of decorum around here?
Nathan — What does your tantrum have to do with what I posted??
No wait, I can answer that —-
NOTHING…. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
I don’t switch nics Nathan.
I also do not lie as you do.
I dont remember ever learning that Anti-American people were allowed to wear military uniforms of the US armed forces… That must be a new plank in Reich Wing politics… must have started with Reagan, and Oliver North… LOL
Chas,
So did you type that in caps on purpose or was it the stroke?
Perhaps you could give us a little disclaimer at the end of your posts.
***THE WORDS TYPED IN CAPS WERE CAUSED BY MY STROKE, PLEASE DISREGARD***
OR
***THE WORDS TYPED IN CAPS I DID BECAUSE I WANTED TO***
Chas,
How is Oliver North Anti-American?
He has to be one of the most pro-American people I have had the pleasure of meeting.
A true American Hero.
BlueJay,
I don’t lie either. And yes you do lie.
That says a lot about you Nathan.
And we already know so much.
Oliver North is a criminal and a traitor. He SHOULD be in prison.
BlueJay,
Why is that? He served his country. Last I checked, that doesn’t make one a traitor.
He was a Marine who has done more to fight for this country than you could even think of.
I will not give your lies further air Nathan.
They ARE well known.
I’ll invite you to catch ME in a lie.
BlueJay,
I have caught you in a lie. And you spent who knows how many posts twisting your way out of it.
But… I will not give that further air here. It is well known.
Well if JR thinks that of me, then he’ll surely tell me. It’s not like we haven’t gone a round or two before.
My business is trying to help people. I don’t earn a lot. But my job is incredibly rewarding. I have far too many who call for help and cannot afford the services we offer- and they truly need it. Its sad. And the state and govt va should pay far far more to help. You think that’s just ok that these people are left without. I don’t.
You really should google Oliver North and Iran Contra Nathan.
The facts of Iran contra are well known Nathan.
Reagan should have been impeached. CIA director Casey and Oliver North should have went to prison.
“He served his country. ”
So did Benedict Arnold, your father, PRESUMABLY “Regular”, and you.
I find nothing redeeming in any of you.
“I have caught you in a lie. ”
Then surely you can do it again.
Political Mama,
I have read Oliver North’s book on the subject and have spent time studying it as well.
I have met Col. North on several occasions. He is a true America Hero.
Meanwhile you liberals spend your time trying to defend the actions of someone like Ayres.
I will take North any day over that real traitor.
BlueJay,
When was the last time you caught me in a lie?
LOL
Idiot.
REAL Marines wouldnt make fun of people who have had stroke damage…
But, maybe a few might make fun of children with disabilities, too… Just after they deliver “Toys for Tots” at Christmas.
BlueJay,
That is because you don’t know one damned thing about actually serving your country.
The only thing you know how to do is beg for the government to take from others to give to you.
Chas,
Real ministers who claim to be Christain wouldn’t use the fact that they had a stroke as an excuse for typing in caps when it was obvious to just about everyone that you were doing it on purpose.
“When was the last time you caught me in a lie?”
I can go get where you lied on me, apologized for it, and then did it again.
But the people I care about already know about it.
We don’t have the readers we used to Nathan. Your father is responsible for that. SO mostly these days, it is pretty much just us posters here.
I cant take anymore neoCON midget mentality this weekend… I have seen more than enough on TV, heard it on Radio, and read it on the Blog… Time now for sleep and rest… The week will be long…. even longer for the neoCONS licking their wounds after Tuesdy night…
good night; good luck; and god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!
may voting be FAIR for a change….
so mote it be!!
Ok.
I figured we could put this off another two days.
Let’s me and you have at it Nathan.
Now, unlike you, it is not in my nature to be nasty.
But with you? It’s fairly easy.
BlueJay,
I do believe I apologized for the comment, not for lying.
Idiot.
And to this day you are still too dumb to figure out the point of the comment to begin with.
Yeah, “Chas” –
But “Nathaniel” is an ex-Marine so it’s okay.
BlueJay,
It is not your Nature to be nasty?
LOL
If only I had a nickle for everytime you said that…
Or one for everytime you are nasty.
Either way, that would be enough to go out for a nice dinner.
SO WHAT if I use caps for EMPHASIS, you imbecile, excuse of an military person….
WHAT IS YOUR FRIGGIN PROBLEM, BOY???
When I posted about my stroke, it was causing me a lot of problems…. SO WHAT IF I USE CAPS???? FOR SOME FOLKS, OF LOW VISION, FOR EXAMPLE, CAPS ARE EASIER TO READ…
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT???
I DONT NEED TO EXPLAIN ANY OF THAT TO YOU… I DONT NEED TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING TO YOU, OR ANY OF YOUR OTHER NEO CON ANTI-AMERICAN BUDDIES ON THE BLOG!!
THERE IS A PART OF ME…. BURIED DOWN DEEP INSIDE ME… THAT ACTUALLY WISHES THEY WOULD COME AND GET YOUR GUNS…. BEFORE YOU ALL GO AND HURT SOMEBODY!!! YOUR RAGE, AND ANGER ARE NOT HEALTHY!!
GOOD NIGHT, YOU WORTHLESS SOB!!!
Chas,
My rage and anger? I am not the one typing in caps like some crazy man on a melt down.
Just as a hypothetical, “Nathaniel” –
What would happen if someone shot your dog?
“I do believe I apologized for the comment, not for lying.”
VINTAGE Nathan. What the hell does that mean?
You were sorry for telling the truth even though you didn’t?
Chas,
I don’t care if you type in caps. It is the fact that a long while ago you were doing it enough to annoy a few other posters.
When they asked you to stop, you then claimed it was your stroke.
Now I merely use it to make fun of you because you can never admit you are wrong or admit a mistake. You always do something silly like claim it was your stroke causing you type in caps.
Now it is just a joke.
NATHAN, YOU DONT EVEN DESERVE COMMENT…. SO I RETRACT THE STATEMENT IN FRONT OF THE ….
LOL
GO SUCK AN EGG, MARINE BOY!!
MonkeyHawk,
Why do you have such a fixation on my dog being shot?
I think you need help. Stop talking about shooting my dog.
OH YEA, NATHAN… YOU WANT TO MAKE FUN OF ME… DO THIS >>>>
PUT SOME TAPE AROUND THE LAST TWO FINGERS OF YOUR LEFT HAND… AND TRY TYPING….
SEE WHAT KEYS YOU HIT WITHOUT KNOWING, OR EVEN WANTING TO HIT….
THEN COME BACK HERE AND TELL ME YOU WANT TO MAKE FUN OF ME…
YOU PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A HUMAN…. AND YET, YOU CLAIM I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN???
WHAT A JOKE!!
Chas,
You seem to have been typing just fine for a long time now.
What is your secret?
I mean you type fine now, but back then it was your stroke which caused you to type in caps.
Did you get a new keyboard made or something?
Was it the Marines taught you to be a lying, thug, bully Nathan?
Or was it dear old dad?
Now, I know a few other Marines. So MY guess here is it is a family thing.
It’s pretty easy to hit the Caps Lock key when one is typing and intending to hit the Shift key.
You know that, “Nathaniel.”
And you know that my “shooting your dog” question is merely a hypothetical.
I wouldn’t do anything to your dog.
I might still have an old .22 rifle somewhere in the attic, but I’m not likely to seek it out and hope it works just so I can murder your
sex partnerpoodle or whatever.It’s a hypothetical question.
I’m a cat person. If someone shot my kitty I’d call the cops.
What would you do if someone shot your dog?
BlueJay,
Can you tell me who taught you to be a failure in life dependent upon government hand outs?
By the way?
I know that is your weakness.
Your dad?
Your relationship with him is SO obviously…late?
Nathan your father is one of the nastiest, meanest and generally most despicable people it has ever been my misfortune to encounter.
MonkeyHawk,
I would be a very sad person. Cry. I would miss him very much.
BlueJay,
That is rather odd. My father is friends with many people and knows many more.
They all love him and think he is great.
What is your fixation on my relationship with my father?
Are you jealous? Where is your dad at?
I don’t get any government hand outs Nathan.
I DO recall how your dad used to brag that he did.
And of course, you do.
The Managing Editor endorses John McCain –
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/02/john-mccain-for-president/
A must-read.
BlueJay,
You may not get any handouts. I don’t really know.
But you sit here on this blog talking about how much you deserve them and want them.
“Where is your dad at?”
As long time posters, you Nathan, and your dad know, my father died almost three ago.
Where is YOUR dad at Nathan? Europe?
A better question. Where is your REAL mother at?
The one who raised you while pa was off wherever?
I gather “Joyce” as YOU yourself used to call her is mom now?
I can fight just as nasty as you and your rotten excuse for a father Nathan.
So, “Nathaniel” –
If someone shot your dog you’d just mope?
Hardly sounds like the reaction I’d expect from a real Marine.
“But you sit here on this blog talking about how much you deserve them…”
No. Wrong.
I don’t personalize my passions or my politics.
Unlike you cons, I have never ever been about just me.
Nathan BJ is about being nasty and mean. That is his life. I used to make the mistake of thinking that he had a brain. He proves me wrong everytime I try to dialogue with him. He and Chass are two of a kind. They are parasites feeding off the rest of society so they have to prop themselves up with their idiotic posts.
Just ignore them. Everyone else does.
BlueJay,
I laugh everytime you call my father a bad name. It is sad, really. It is like watching you try to tear down Santa Clause on Christmas.
You just can’t do it. He is great guy.
And I really don’t remember very meany details about your life.
Talk to me a few months from now and I will have forgotten your father is dead again.
MonkeyHawk,
All of our dogs are really great dogs. If you knew them you might just mope too.
Well, my apologies BlueJay.
Not only do you think you deserve government handouts, you think that others like you do as well.
How noble.
“Nathan BJ is about being nasty and mean.”
I make my own money okie and do not exploit prison labor as you do.
And? You should know here that better conservatives than you encouraged me to go after you as to this exploitation.
“You just can’t do it. He is great guy.”
Well HE thinks so.
The last time Hank Price perpetrated a lie on me, he must have said half a dozen times how great a guy he is.
Yeah. I’ve met him. I’ve met him several times. My measure of the man is he has a limp handshake and looks over my shoulder rather than in my eyes.
Remember your 8th commandment Nathan.
I am not and have never been on food stamps.
In saying that, I do not mean to judge those who do avail themselves that help. There are SO many more needy than I.
Nathan? Have you ever eaten food purchased with food stamps?
BJ tell me what you would like to do with the men and women who come out of jail and have to get and keep jobs so they can go on with their lifes?
You pretend to be so smart. But your actions say ‘no’. I am glad that I take up so much space at your meetups and with the ‘conservatives’ that encourage you to go after me because that means that you are leaving someone else alone.
I don’t believe you though because you lie so frequently that I don’t think the truth is in you or Obama. Keep that hand out and see what he puts in it. I’ll check back in a year.
Still waiting blowhard. What is your solution because when we have to fire our community corrections employees because we exploit them I am sending them to your house and let you tell them why we shouldn’t employ them.
The agreed opinion on you okie is that you are not very bright.
Your last would seem to confirm that.
“You pretend to be so smart.”
I don’t pretend at anything. And I was humbled at the recent meetup the folks I met and their education and wisdom.
“…tell me what you would like to do with the men and women who come out of jail and have to get and keep jobs so they can go on with their lifes?”
Why don’t YOU tell me what YOU do with them?
Or to them.
It was a conservative disillusioned with the GOP that told me to go looking on how Community corrections works. And I will withold further comment pending my research. I want to understand better your “help” to those folks.
And I WILL put your name on it if I find abuse or exploitation.
I’m a liberal, okie, remember?
My tendency is to fairness.
But what I have had hinted to me about community corrections?
My first take is that you and your husband are some real slime.
But as I say, I want to look further and better understand.
LOL
The agreed opinion?
HA HA HA HA HA
You mean when you liberals sit around at your exclusive meetings or your back channel emails you “agreed” that okobserver is not very bright?
Well, ok then, all that proves is that you guys waste your time talking badly about others behind their back.
Losers.
“You mean when you liberals sit around at your exclusive meetings ”
Exclusive ONLY as to keeping out troublemakers, psychos, etc.
The Eagle does the same. That is why they have held no more meetups.
I’ve met you several times Nathan. SINCE then, I have not posted lies and disrespect on you as you have me.
I introduced you to my own son, “This is Nathan. He’s a Marine.”
Shortly after, you called my son poorly behaved because he ran about while adults talked politics. I guess I am not so good at indoctrination as you cons.
Make no mistake Nathan. I well understand that you and I are enemies. But it is you and yours and for your own reasons that have decided to make it so. You and yours have had your time and take from this, Now? I can only hope it is my turn.
BlueJay,
Yes, I commented on your sons behavior. It was a cheap shot, but true.
I did so after your repeated comments towards my father about what you claimed your son said my father said to him. Which was just as much a cheap shot if not an outright lie either by you saying your son said it or by your son for saying it.
And yes, you have constantly posted lies about me. To this day you still purposefully mischaracterize a conversation you were never even a part of.
How do you know that is the reason The Eagle holds no more meetups?
I think it is possible to see employers who hire people with criminal challenges as being noble – that is as in giving a helping hand up. But exploitation is always possible too.
Not long ago, Grm was posting about janitors being somehow less than other people. I can go find the post, if I take some anti-nausea medication before I start. This attitude from a business owner who hires people to do janitorial work – somehow does not make me think she functions in the noble category above.
I’d like to see her refute my point, but of course, she won’t. She will instead launch into some ad hominem attack. She’s such a good Christian.
From the wisdom of Angry Johnny and the Killbillies:
You can blame your sins on your family,
A woman, or a broken home,
But on Judgement day, when it’s time to pay,
You’ll be standing there alone.
Should have added in the bracketed comment:
You can blame your sins on your family,
A woman, or a broken home, [or, a political ideology, or even naked greed]
But on Judgement day, when it’s time to pay,
You’ll be standing there alone.
I think Johnny would approve of the embelishments.
“Boxlock has been taiken hook, line, and sinker, YET AGAIN!!! Wherever those web sites are that you “found” they are not current, NOR accurate… They seem to be from JANUARY, 2008… when Obama was running against…. Democrats… for the NOMINATION!!”
—-Chas, the faux preacher
So you admit that the liar Obama will say anything at anytime, anyplace simply to win votes….in other words a liar. And you accept that!
He said it plain and clear and everyone can hear and read the text….and now everyone knows the level of honesty of the character of Chas, the faux preacher.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/11/shocking-new-audio-obama-promises-to.html
Obama:
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter ”
He said it Chas….gut up and admit it for a change….you are at best wrong….more likely a liar.
You know Steven I am sure you are one of those ‘educated’ people that BJ is so humbled to be a part of but what you just wrote is such a stupid attack on me that it speaks volumns about your real knowledge. You would need to show me where I talked down about any segment of the work force. I don’t hire or fire janitors. That was BJ’s simple mind working overtime. Saddly you all seems to regress when you meet up and having nothing productive to talk about start in on the conservatives on the blog.
The big lie is that BJ actually talks to any ‘conservatives’. His hateful mouth wouldn’t allow this. I can only hope that when/if Obama is elected he doesn’t do too much damage to this great nation before the next election. I hope that his plan to tax the rich and redistribute it to the ‘poor’ doesn’t happen. Socialism has killed many civilizations and nothing in what he has said or done shows me that he won’t do likewise.
As far as personal attacks – BJ and others like him lead the attacks. This is a blog where people share political opinions. You are a small bunch of petty little people with little else in your lifes so you attack others for their opinions and faith. You should feel shame but I know you don’t even after the disgraceful manner you treated Regular.
ksgrm,
“Socialism has killed many civilizations.”
Really. Name one.
USSR
“Saddly you all seems to regress when you meet up and having nothing productive to talk about start in on the conservatives on the blog.”
I’ll just let that sentence stand for the sense and sensibility (or lack thereof) of the poster.
BJ oh if only you were as smart as you pretend to be.
I’ve been emailing people all weekend to read this blog post, thanks for sharing your thoughts