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Global financial crisis exposes follies in climate modelling
The global financial crisis showed how foolish the Rudd Government would be to base its climate change response on economic forecasts for the coming century, academic and Reserve Bank board director Warwick McKibbin said yesterday. A frequent commentator on carbon reduction schemes, Professor McKibbin said the carbon pollution reduction scheme proposed in a green paper, and the subject of an upcoming white paper, was the result of a “diabolical policy process” and risked disadvantaging Australia in global markets.
Speaking at a Committee for the Economic Development of Australia lunch in Brisbane, the economics professor said the Garnaut Report, released on September 30, was originally commissioned by the states, partly as a political tool to attack the federal Coalition, and has since had to be embraced by the incoming Labor Government. He questioned whether that required Climate Change Department secretary Martin Parkinson to have a “schizophrenic” approach to policy development.
But Professor McKibbin, from the Australian National University, was most critical of Treasury’s long-term economic modelling, which was used by the Rudd Government to allay fears an emissions trading scheme would damage the economy. While partly involved in the modelling, Professor McKibbin said he was not responsible for the scenarios and believed it was “stretching the imagination” to believe you could forecast 100 years in advance and use that process to determine targets.
“I don’t think we can calculate cost-benefit analysis over 100 years into the future,” Professor McKibbin said. “We just have very poor tools at our disposal to work out what the costs will be, or what the world economy will look like, in 2100, just as we didn’t have a really good idea at the turn of the 20th century, in 1900, what the world would look like today.”
He said the economic crisis further demonstrated how policies should not be framed around long-term economic forecasts, how poorly-developed regulatory systems would have ramifications, and climate change responses needed to be able to withstand the inevitable “shocks”.
Professor McKibbin said the Kyoto experience showed how even most environmentally-friendly countries, such as New Zealand and Canada, could commit to rigid, long-term targets only to find themselves disadvantaged when their economies or external conditions changed. He declared there would never be a uniform global carbon scheme and urged the Rudd Government to take the time necessary to develop a workable national scheme.
Source
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24667261-11949,00.html
Another success in stem cell research. ADULT stem cell research, where almost all the meaningful breakthroughs have come, and during which human life is not destroyed.
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LONDON, England (CNN) — Doctors have given a woman a new windpipe with tissue engineered from her own stem cells in what experts have hailed as a “milestone in medicine.”
Claudia Castillo, 30, suffered from tuberculosis for years.
The breakthrough allowed Claudia Castillo, 30, to receive a new section of trachea — an airway essential for breathing — without the risk that her body would reject the transplant.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/11/19/windpipe.transplant/index.html
Best health care system in the world?
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4AH1CE20081118
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Primary care doctors in the United States feel overworked and nearly half plan to either cut back on how many patients they see or quit medicine entirely, according to a survey released on Tuesday.
And 60 percent of 12,000 general practice physicians found they would not recommend medicine as a career.
“The whole thing has spun out of control. I plan to retire early even though I still love seeing patients. The process has just become too burdensome,” the Physicians’ Foundation, which conducted the survey, quoted one of the doctors as saying.
The survey adds to building evidence that not enough internal medicine or family practice doctors are trained or practicing in the United States, although there are plenty of specialist physicians.
Health care reform is near the top of the list of priorities for both Congress and president-elect Barack Obama, and doctor’s groups are lobbying for action to reduce their workload and hold the line on payments for treating Medicare, Medicaid and other patients with federal or state health insurance.
The Physicians’ Foundation, founded in 2003 as part of a settlement in an anti-racketeering lawsuit among physicians, medical societies, and insurer Aetna, Inc., mailed surveys to 270,000 primary care doctors and 50,000 practicing specialists.
The 12,000 answers are considered representative of doctors as a whole, the group said, with a margin of error of about 1 percent. It found that 78 percent of those who answered believe there is a shortage of primary care doctors.
Dad accused of killing daughter while cleaning gun
MARYSVILLE, Wash. – A father arrested after his 6-year-old daughter was fatally shot in their Washington state home allegedly told authorities he had been drinking double shots of vodka while cleaning his guns.
Court papers say Richard Peters told detectives he had asked his daughter, Stormy, to bring him the .45-caliber handgun Sunday. He said he must have pulled the trigger, and the girl fell to the floor. She was pronounced dead Monday.
Bail for Peters, 42, was set Monday at $250,000. He has been arrested for investigation of first-degree manslaughter.
Darth Cheney gets busted hehehe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7737093.stm
Cheney charged over jail ‘abuses’
Cheney at an intelligence briefing, Oct 2008
A judge has yet to approve the indictment against Mr Cheney
A Texas grand jury has charged US Vice-President Dick Cheney for “organised criminal activity” related to alleged abuse of private prison inmates.
The indictment says Mr Cheney – who has invested $85m (£56m) in a company that holds shares in for-profit prisons – conspired to block an investigation.
The indictment has not been seen by a judge, who could dismiss it.
Mr Cheney’s spokeswoman declined to comment, saying his office had not yet received a copy of the charges.
One Texas lawyer said the charges were politically motivated.
‘Conflict of interest’
The indictment was overseen by county District Attorney Juan Guerra, an outgoing prosecutor at the end of his term of office.
He cites the case of Gregorio De La Rosa, who died on 26 April 26, 2001 inside a private prison in Willacy County, Texas.
The grand jury in Willacy County, near the US-Mexico border, accuses Mr Cheney of committing “at least misdemeanour assaults” of inmates by allowing other inmates to assault them.
It said there was a “direct conflict of interest” because Mr Cheney had influence over federal contracts awarded to prison companies.
US grand juries weigh evidence to decide whether a case is worthy of being sent for a full trial, before issuing formal charges known as indictments.
The three-page indictment also alleges that former US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales “used his position…to stop the investigations as to the wrong doings.”
Think there is a nursing shortage now? There are not enough young people coming into the profession nowadays. We have a healthcare crisis now, just think what it will be like when most practicing RNs retire in the next 10 or 15 yrs.
If you want job security, become a nurse.
Think of others this Holiday season:
St. Anthony Family Shelter –
Since 1988, Catholic Charities St. Anthony Family Shelter has met the immediate needs of countless families in crisis. In addition to a safe place to stay, the program provides a continuum of services for economically disadvantaged families.
How We Help
Our services include case management, referrals for employment, education, health assessments and other medical needs, instruction in parenting skills, special attention to children?s needs on premises by a foster grandparent and the family’s advocate, family counseling, referral for drug, alcohol and mental health counseling, follow-up case management, and the USD 259 homeless services.
Families who can move out of the shelter and into their own homes continue to receive the benefits of support and guidance that help ensure their success. We assist them with goal planning and provide case management, advocacy and support, as determined by individual need. For those families who require it, we help connect them to community resources for furniture, linens and other basic home necessities.
Meeting Needs, Preserving Dignity
The shelter is unique in terms of efforts made to preserve the dignity of the families we serve, “family” being defined as a single parent with children, a married couple, or a married couple with children. Unaccompanied men and women are referred to other shelters in the city. As many as 11 families can be accommodated in private rooms each night.
While residing at the shelter, families’ basic needs are met, including three meals a day, personal hygiene supplies, laundry facilities and an indoor play area. While at the shelter, residents agree to complete household chores and follow established guidelines. The length of stay is determined on a case-by-case basis, ranging from a few nights to thirty days.
“Another Positive Christian Influence in Wichita”
http://www.denverpost.com/previous2/home/ci_10996605
COLORADO SPRINGS — Erica Ham was walking to a bus stop, heading for work as a nursing-home housekeeper, when a car struck her from behind.
Three men jumped out. “Get on the ground!” one with a gun ordered. Another stabbed her repeatedly, puncturing a lung and slitting her left eyelid. Police found her unconscious but alive, her cellphone at her ear.
Matthew Orrenmaa was shot as he walked to get gas for his truck, Zachary Szody as he talked with a friend in front of a Colorado Springs house. Cesar Ramirez-Ibanez and Amairany Cervantes were gunned down as they posted a garage-sale sign. Kevin Shields was shot to death on his 24th birthday, Robert James for the cash in his wallet, Jonathan Smith in an attempted robbery, Sara Sherwood by a husband who then killed himself. Judilianna Lawrence was murdered by a rapist who slit her throat. Jacqwelyn Villagomez was beaten to death.
The victims had just one thing in common: The men accused of attacking them all went to war in Iraq with the same Fort Carson unit, the 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division.
In three years, nine men from that single 3,700-soldier Army brigade have been charged in 10 murders and attempted homicides, all but two in or around Colorado Springs. Some of the attacks appear frighteningly random; victims were shot and stabbed by men they had never seen before. Four of the victims — Orrenmaa, Szody, Shields and James — also served at Fort Carson.
Of the accused, one had been sent home early from Iraq with mental-health problems. Another had been hospitalized with post-traumatic stress disorder. Another had become addicted to painkillers prescribed for his wounds.
Another had been allowed to enlist despite a juvenile record of killing a 12-year-old boy with a shotgun. He was sent to a second tour in Iraq despite a head injury and a felony charge of threatening his girlfriend with a gun. Even after he was court-martialed for threatening officers, the Army let him go with a “serious misconduct” discharge and no mental-health care.
Oh what a joy…to turn to the blog and find stories of shootings, muggings, death and destruction.
It is going to be a beautiful day, crime is down, stores are open, people are peacefully going about their lives, our way of life is not being threatened…yet the posts here are all of gloom, doom and negative.
Must be sad to live life looking for the negative like the upthread posters obviously are doing.
Must be sad to live life looking for the negative like the upthread posters obviously are doing.
Sorry to rain on your parade maybe this will cheer you up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_RZTusUzM8
Think of others this Holiday season:
Seconded, Sam. And also before this Holiday season, and after the Holiday season, while we’re at it.
you are not raining on ‘my parade’…just your own. Sad state of affairs when you search out, cut and paste negative, sad and depressing news stories. What is the point, anyway? To prove how rotten life is? To prove how horrible it is to be alive? To prove that all people everywhere are just rotten?
There was a news story a couple weeks ago about how regardless of election outcome, Republicans tend to be much happier most of the time than do Democrats. Seems to be proof positive upthread..why else cut and paste depressing sad and infuriating news other than to bring down everyone else?
No thanks…
Here’s some GREAT news!!!
LONDON – Doctors have given a woman a new windpipe with tissue grown from her own stem cells, eliminating the need for anti-rejection drugs. “This technique has great promise,” said Dr. Eric Genden, who did a similar transplant in 2005 at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York. That operation used both donor and recipient tissue. Only a handful of windpipe, or trachea, transplants have ever been done.
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Just imagine what medical miracles await when ALL stem cells are available for medical use.
From the Daily Star (in Lebanon, not Tucson–and not Ohio!).
Why Obama is making Al-Qaeda nervous
A small, obvious, excerpt:
Obama makes the jihadists nervous because he is an appealing new face whose ascension undermines the belief that Islam and the West are locked in an inescapable clash of civilizations. “The Democrats kill you slowly without you noticing it. … They are like a snake whose touch is not felt until its poison enters your body,” observes Qaradhawi.
“Even in the Arab world, Obama is very popular,” explains Jean-Pierre Filiu, a French scholar of Islam. “The global jihadists leaned toward McCain because they hoped the confrontation would get worse.”
The key constituency in this battle of ideas isn’t Al-Qaeda itself, a dwindling group whose harassed members have little time to think about politics. It’s the potential recruits in mosques and madrassas around the world who are assessing which way the wind is blowing. Among this group, there is a new ferment, according to a US intelligence official who monitors jihadist websites. He sees curiosity about Obama among Muslim militant groups such as Hamas, Hizbullah and the Taliban.
“If I were Al-Qaeda, I would worry about the American election,” says the intelligence official. He argues that the jihadists have benefited from overheated rhetoric about the “war on terrorism,” which has given Al-Qaeda more stature in Muslim eyes than it deserves. There is a national-security opportunity, he argues, “to take advantage of a new face in Washington. The new administration has a chance to say, ‘We’re different.’”
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=5&article_id=97705
KFG, are you still here? ;)
Scientists Find New Penguin, Extinct for 500 Years
WELLINGTON, New Zealand — Researchers studying a rare and endangered species of penguin have uncovered a previously unknown species that disappeared about 500 years ago.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454509,00.html
A perfect fit for this blog-
Don’t Laugh: World Toilet Day Aims to Promote Sanitation, Rid World of Disease
A non-profit organization in Singapore has declared Wednesday World Toilet Day, Agence France-Presse reported.
But this is not a laughing matter, according to The World Toilet Organization, which was founded in 2001 and aims to make the world aware of sanitation issues.
“Each year, lack of toilets cause 200 million tons of humans waste to go uncollected and untreated around the world, fouling the environment and exposing millions of people to diseases,” said a statement on the organization’s Web site.
World Toilet Day is a reminder that better sanitation is needed around the world.
According to the Web site, 2.5 billion people across the globe lack access to appropriate toilet facilities.
The WTO consists of 151 toilet and sanitation organizations in 53 countries.
More GREAT news!!
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sen. Ted Stevens’ election defeat marks the end of an era in which he held a commanding place in Alaska politics while wielding power on some of the most influential committees in Congress.
It also moves Senate Democrats within two seats of a filibuster-proof 60-vote majority and gives President-elect Barack Obama a stronger hand when he assumes office on Jan. 20.
It also moves Senate Democrats within two seats of a filibuster-proof 60-vote majority and gives President-elect Barack Obama a stronger hand when he assumes office on Jan. 20.
. . .but keep in mind that number includes Lieberman.
P.S. On the upside, Joe owes one to Barack now. And he’s not a jerk on every issue.
Update on the “Great Ownership Society”, Housing construction at lowest level since 1959.
Phantom
Posted November 19, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink
Update on the “Great Ownership Society”, Housing construction at lowest level since 1959.
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That’s what happens when the economy is in the sh*tter.
I had no idea it was world torliet day!!! Sweet I’ll be back, I must celebrate this properly! Nice find Anti! LOL!
outlander – I had seen that story last night. One thing that strikes me about ADULT stem cells is that if they can grow tissue from my own genetics there should be no rejection problems. Quite interesting and encouraging.
bth, that’s the newly discovered iPS cells you are mentioning. But remember wihout ES cells there would never have been iPS cells. Also bear in mind that adult stem cells have been used in research since the 1940s and only within the last 15 years have there been any treatments as a result of that research.
Embryonic stem cells weren’t even discovered until 1998. Look at how far our scientists have come! Most exciting is that once bush is gone all stem cell research will be supported!
outlander, if you ignore the incinerator out back of the fertility clinics and save blastocysts from research you aren’t protecting anything but yourself from reality. Unless you “think?” throwing them away as medical waste isn’t destructive. Most couples with leftover blastocysts at fertility clinics welcome them being used for research since they will be destroyed in that incinerator.
AMEN Linda — not to mention that SO many of the groups who oppose ESCell research are also OPPOSED to in vitro fertilization… And so those frozen cells just stay frozen ad infinitum…
I have never understood opposition to stem cell research. The potential benefits are mind boggling.. and (the way I understand it) if the cells are not used for research they are simply discarded. What sense is that?
Annie
Shirley freakin Temple ????
That’s it. Turn in your Man Card. For even knowing where to dig up Shirley freakin Temple clip. You lost it bud. Hand it over.
True enough, Raptor….
“Another success in stem cell research. ADULT stem cell research, where almost all the meaningful breakthroughs have come, and during which human life is not destroyed.”
As soon as I read this story, I knew I would come across a post like this from those who are not intellectually curious.
There will always be a difference of opinion here. Science is done to uncover answers, which is a reward on it’s own. Direct application to humans is a plus. There’s so much we don’t know about totipotent cells and development from the first division that there is a wealth of information to be discovered. And maybe, just maybe, that will be practically applicable to us in several decades.
I mean, if you’re okay with sending the brightest minds oversees where such research is federally funded, then more power to you. I, personally, don’t like the idea of the U.S. being 3rd or 4rd in science and technology because some people would rather have embryos incinerated than used for research.
I’m curious, do you all think fertility clinics should be shut down, and in-vitro outlawed?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/11/18/cheney-gonale-indicted/
Vice President Dick Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales have been indicted on state charges involving federal prisons in a South Texas county . . .
Cheney is charged with engaging in an organized criminal activity related to the vice president’s investment in the Vanguard Group, which holds financial interests in the private prison companies running the federal detention centers.
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FIX News is spinning this for all its worth, but the question remains–why is the Vice President of the United States invested in private anything?
That in itself is a conflict of interest.
Religious extremists oppose stem cell research like they opposed AIDS research, cures for STDs, heart transplants, etc. When science provides cures for ailments it lowers the amount of suffering. Where there’s suffering there is an opportunity for evangelism.
The potential benefits are mind boggling..
The most meaningful results thus far have come from adult stem cells. Why not move forward with something that works instead of beating an incisive issue to death?
This is a guy who claims that he will someday give all his Halliburton money to charity, but just hasn’t gotten around to it yet, apparently.
But still he’s investing in companies as VP?
Doesn’t sound consistent, does it.
“The most meaningful results thus far have come from adult stem cells.”
That couldn’t have anything to do with the simple fact that the federal government made it illegal to fund embryonic stem cells, would it.
Nah . . .
Nothing about Dick Cheney is consistent….
Wahine_Tara asks:
“I’m curious, do you all think fertility clinics should be shut down, and in-vitro outlawed?”
If a fertility clinic were on fire and inside were trapped a two year old child and a dozen petri dishes with fertilized eggs and a self-professed “pro-lifer” had only time enough to save the child or the dishes before the building collapsed, what who would the pro-lifer save?
Naturally the pro-lifer would save the child. However, if the position of the pro-lifer was consistent and a petri dish had the same value as a born human being then they’d have to save the dozen petri dishes. That’s 12 lives to one.
Given Ayman al-Zawahri rant against Obama wherein he called him a “house negro”, I have to wonder if maybe Osama bin Laden is dead. al-Zawahri’s statement seemed pretty important from Al Qaeda’s perspective, and it seems it would have been something that bin Laden would have wanted to do himself. When was the last video of bin Laden?
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2007/09/200852514296429407.html
The above article questions the authenticity of the video released in Sept. 2007.
This Time article also questions the asertion that bin Laden is alive:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1859354,00.html?iid=tsmodule
simple fact that the federal government made it illegal to fund embryonic stem cells,
That is just in America dimwit. How those advances coming overseas? Again, dimwit.
Capn,
Since you feel that ESC research should be federally funded, and is not, just how much money have you donated to ESC research?
Oooohhh, I get it. As long as it is someone else’s money you want it funded. Gotcha.
“The most meaningful results thus far have come from adult stem cells. Why not move forward with something that works instead of beating an incisive issue to death?”
You know, we can completely map development of the nematode from fertilization to juvenile. Every single cell, we can trace it back to the first division. That, to be frank, is cool as hell.
From that project, we’ve learned a lot about developmental biology in general, which has contributed to medicine. That’s why we should look at human development as well–it’s not going to provide a miracle cure in 10 years, but learning about the process that go on during development will almost certainly yield knowledge useful in medicine.
Biology doesn’t operate in a bubble. The research that goes into developing new medicines spans across many fields….
Again, SOL, are you ok with the U.S. being 3rd or 4th in science and technology?
simple fact that the federal government made it illegal to fund embryonic stem cells
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No that Obama is in, perhaps he will fund the development of a baby combine that runs on solar power.
Let the harvest begin! I have my sickle and hammer ready!!
No=Now….jeeez
I’m certainly not ok with it. But any scientist is necessarily competitive. You have to be, or get left in the dust. Maybe you’ll never view science the way many of us do, and maybe I’m banging my head against a wall.
Wahine_Tara
Posted November 19, 2008 at 11:12 am | Permalink
“The most meaningful results thus far have come from adult stem cells. Why not move forward with something that works instead of beating an incisive issue to death?”
You know, we can completely map development of the nematode from fertilization to juvenile. Every single cell, we can trace it back to the first division. That, to be frank, is cool as hell.
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Round worm mapping – not your every day occupation…
The anti-stem cell folks and GM Ceos have a lot in common. They balk at new technology and can’t think ahead about how the research will be profitable in the future. Companies like HP dismissed the computer mouse, IBM dismissed the Apple’s point and click operating system, and the Confederacy dismissed the gattling gun. Some people just want to keep on making the same mistakes and let other take the opportunity.
ANTI = Scroll Over Geek
Again, SOL, are you ok with the U.S. being 3rd or 4th in science and technology?
ESC research alone will rank us 3rd or 4th? I think that is a stretch. We have many many fields of science. Why would ESC reasearch drop us back to 4th while we are researching ASC and many many other fieds?
While ESC has failed to produce much, if anything, how is the world outpacing us?
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Global warming or global cooling?
Natural progression of things….
“WELLINGTON, New Zealand — Researchers studying a rare and endangered species of penguin have uncovered a previously unknown species that disappeared about 500 years ago.
The research suggests that the first humans in New Zealand hunted the newly found Waitaha penguin to extinction by 1500, about 250 years after their arrival on the islands.
But the loss of the Waitaha allowed another kind of penguin to thrive — the yellow-eyed species that now also faces extinction, Philip Seddon of Otago University, a co-author of the study, said Wednesday.”
Good one Reg.
The most meaningful results thus far have come from adult stem cells. Why not move forward with something that works instead of beating an incisive issue to death? — Sol
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Very recently your own cells (say a skin cell) have chemicals added to them to make an iPS cell which is likened to an embryonic cell (unprogrammed). VERY RECENTLY! And, there is some instability. But great promise!
There should be no controversy in pursuing all types stem cell research and that is where our greatest hope is. Leftover embryos (actually blastocysts) are thrown away, incinerated as medical waste OR used for research where they are destroyed with the potential for great promise for cures and treatments for mankind.
Adult stem cells have their programming turned off so an adult blood cell will always be a blood cell and great progress has been made in treating blood disorders with adult blood stem cells; you couldn’t however use that adult stem cell for anything but a BLOOD disorder.
Embryonic stem cells were FIRST DISCOVERED in 1998 — ten years ago. During that time all research has been with private funds. So in labs where several studies are ongoing often the most expensive equipment (multi-million dollars!) is shared. IF one of the studies is privately funded embryonic stem cell research they can’t share that expensive piece of equipment but must duplicate it. Just a hint of the complications and roadblocks we put up in the way of progress.
And these complications have nothing to do with anything but this president. Congress has passed funding of ESC research twice and bush used vetoes both times. Most Americans favor this funding. Come next year Jan. 20th!), the ONLY roadblock will be gone.
Embryonic Stem Cell Research —> Provocative
Adult Stem Cell Research —> Productive
I concede, Reg’s is better than my DA. :)
I don’t often agree with Wahine Tarine, but being as she is the sexist mammal on this Blog, I am mesmerized by here presence. :D
(shameless male chauvinist remark)
ESC research alone will rank us 3rd or 4th? I think that is a stretch. We have many many fields of science. Why would ESC reasearch drop us back to 4th while we are researching ASC and many many other fieds?
While ESC has failed to produce much, if anything, how is the world outpacing us?
That’s a good question, but again, you are being “benefits based” for lack of a better term. Of course ESC research has not produced results. There is very little chance of immediate profit, so drug companies won’t fund it. It needs federal funding.
The anti-science sentiment will send bright minds oversees because we don’t care about pioneering research. We only care about the bottom line. And many of the most brilliant scientists do what they do because they want to learn more about something, not necessarily because they’re thinking about how it will benefit the human race.
Basically, if we have to rely on Europe for the breakthroughs so we can piggyback off of their discoveries (because we only care about research directly and immediately applicable to humans), then we’re going to fall behind. We need to keep the brightest scientists here in America, and we can’t do that if we insist that funding is only available if you can find a cure for cancer.
Plus when you consider that cell signaling systems gone awry result in cancer, it makes sense to learn more about that process in general.
http://sciencefun.wordpress.com/2007/03/30/the-difference-between-a-scientist-and-a-normal-person/
:D
Anyone know if animal ESC’s have been studied for human treatment or animal treatments?
“To date, current research on embryonic stem cells has resulted in no promising results. Ironically, a leading pro-ESCR advocate is the Juvenile Diabetes Foundation, but ESCR research has failed in fighting this disease.
Past supporters of this controversial research are now speaking out about the false hype surrounding the results. The San Francisco Chronicle recently reported that doubters are coming out of the woodwork. Paul Billings, who studied stem cells’ effects and co-founded a stem cell bank, said that hopes for major new medical treatments based on embryonic stem cells are “very remote”. “The problems are so complex that we’re not likely to be able to tackle them with the stem cell gambit in the foreseeable future.”
Researchers in China met with a disastrous result. Fetal tissue injected into a patient’s brain produced temporary improvement, but within two years the patient developed a brain tumor and died. An autopsy revealed that the fetal cells had taken root, but had then metamorphed into other types of human tissue – hair, skin and bone. These grew into the tumor, which killed the patient.”
http://www.lifeissues.org/cloningstemcell/bradsarticle.html
Maybe you should use blood cells for blood cells, brain cells for brain cells etc. Looks like using a ‘super cell’ backfires fatally.
Embryonic Stem Cell Research —> Provocative
Adult Stem Cell Research —> Productive
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Sol! Isn’t that great! Research with adult stem cells began in the 1940s and today there are cures and treatments! That’s something worth celebrating!
So are all the potentials of the newer research.
Again, if you are ignoring the incinerator out back of the fertility clinic so blastocysts can be SAVED from research, the only thing you are saving is yourself from reality.
ESC – 0
ASC – 73
http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/CheckTheScore.pdf
With 73 ‘wins’ for the adult stem cell research and zero for embryonic, why chase good money after bad? Stick with what works.
No one is fighting (OK shouldn’t use no one, but you understand…) adult stem cell research. It works. Pump money into that.
Sol, you know this is my subject and you know I can discuss it all day. But I don’t have all day. In fact, I’m behind now.
Without ESC research there would have never been an iPS cell!
An iPS cell is one of your own mixed with some chemicals which makes a tailored to you ES cell. That is an accomplishment of ESC research! That’s the cell that your body probably won’t reject because it started out with one of your cells. That’s progress!
Linda,
Let’s say ESCR finds a cure for cancer. Only embryonic cells work. How do you plan to supply the ESC after the research is completed and the remedies need a source of ESC?
Solar powered baby/embryo combine, Sol.
Still waiting to hear the outcry against and see the protesting at fertility clinics.
You’re definitely okay with legislation agains IVF?
iPS cells
I don’t think that annie_moose enterd the Colorado Springs story to rain on anyone’s day. I think annie was pointing out how little mental health care is available to Iraq war vets after they have returned from serving one or more tours of duty in a war zone. I recently read about a service man back in the USA who tried to get post-traumatic stress treatment & was told he’d have to wait 6 months before there was an opening at his base hospital. So he called a military base in another state & got a much quicker appointment. While he was starting to receive treatment there, soldiers from his home base came and took him back in chains for being awol. Hail, the returning heroes!
Right now scientists are giving ES cells diseases. Liken it to taking the watch apart. These are diseases that usually aren’t seen until autopsy. The progress in treatments when you know how it became is exciting! Not just at the end but all during the stages.
It’s true Hitler was a Democrat!
German Medic’s Account Confirms Hitler Had Only One Testicle
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454744,00.html
OK Linda, School me. I looked up IPSCs and the definition is waaaaaaaaay above my head. Is it your own cells or cells from an embryo? Or a combination (Combo #5 please)
Linda,
Is this research not available on ADCs? I’m being serious.
Daley and colleagues create 20 disease-specific stem cell lines
http://esciencenews.com/articles/2008/08/07/daley.and.colleagues.create.20.disease.specific.stem.cell.lines
(Sol, the Chad Cowan mentioned in the first sentence is my son!)
OUTFREAKINSTANDING Linda !!! You must be overjoyed. How proud you must be. While I don’t support this vein of science, I can appreciate accomplishment. Wonderful. How great for you !!!
Here’s an article that uses words and language easily understood. It’s not long and it shares the importance of continuing all types of stem cell research.
http://www.advancedcell.com/recent-news-item/stem-cell-advances-may-make-moral-issue-moot
While I don’t support this vein of science,
I take that back, from your first link…
The new iPS lines, developed from the cells of patients ranging in age from one month to 57-years-old
I can get behind that 100%
From your second link ..
allowing scientists to convert ordinary cells into embryonic stem cells.
I be down with that
Thank you for schoolin me !!!
Sol, iPS cells wouldn’t have been possible without ES cells! And there is still much to learn but that is the goal — that there will be no need in the future for ES cells because scientists can make them from and for you, and me, and everyone.
When you realize that embryonic stem cells have only been researched for 10 short years and you see that kind of progress, isn’t it exciting to think what the next 10 years will bring!?
10 years with iPS cells I can live with, and so can the nation. Most of ‘em anyway. You took away the incisiveness.
Tara,
If you still have my e-mail, please contact me.
I have a HUGE favor to ask :)
“et’s say ESCR finds a cure for cancer. Only embryonic cells work. How do you plan to supply the ESC after the research is completed and the remedies need a source of ESC?”
Research wouldn’t stop there. Knowing WHY embryonic stem cells cure cancer would help develop ways to treat it with alternatives.
How refreshing it is that we will have a President that allows science to be used instead of basing policy on fairy tales from the Bible.
Interesting reading re: financial/monetary crisis. any thoughts from the dedicated economists among us?
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The New Republic
Debt Man Walking
by John B. Judis
Economists know the fatal flaw in our system–but they can’t agree how to fix it.
Post Date Wednesday, December 03, 2008
For those Americans who are not daily readers of the Financial Times, the past few months have been a crash course in the abstract and obscure instruments and arrangements that have derailed the nation’s economy. From mortgage-backed securities to credit default swaps, the financial health of the country has undergone a gory public dissection. And yet, as Barack Obama prepares to take office, one particularly frightening problem has escaped public notice; indeed, it may not even make the agenda of the global summit being held this weekend, dubbed “Bretton Woods II” after the postwar system of currency controls. The international monetary system is in big trouble.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=16872fed-798c-476b-a6c4-303923cd6388&p=1
Oh, and BTW:
Today is National Ammo Day. Support your local ammo pusher.
http://nationalammoday.com/
I don’t have it, Mr. Controversy. Send an email to my throwaway account pawzoff127@yahoo.com and I’ll check it tonight
No dedicated economist am I, GMC, but thanks for the link. The article raises a very substantive question which deserves consideration by all, and I commend it to the attention of the bloggers here.
My personal thought is that there will need to be a formal Bretton Woods III (since there is already an informal II) agreement reached. PM Brown’s suggestions on reform make sense, in a general way, to me as I read them.
So from GMC’s link, the Chinese and Japanese buy our debt in turn for allowing them a massive trade deficit. That is just dumb. Plain ole dumb.
Thanks, Tara!
Sol, I agree that the allowance of first the Japanese and later the Chinese to run a trade surplus with the U.S. in return for their funding out debt seems less than intelligent. However, this seems to have been of benefit to all parties (the degree of the benefit being debatable in the case of the U.S.) over the past few decades.
There are serious questions about international monetary policy which are addressed in the linked piece. It will not take much of a misstep to create another global depression, it seems to me.
Of course, Sol, a similar argument may be made concerning the recycling of the petrodollars by our friends in Saudi Arabia, et al. That’s why I strongly feel that the U.S. needs to get off the “oil teat”, whether from foreign or domestic production, ASAP. I know it won’t happen quickly or painlessly. It needs to happen, though, IMHO.
Getting off he oil teat. Boy, wouldn’t that be nice?
I strongly recommend Daniel Yergin’s book The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money, and Power. It won the Pulitzer in 1992 and remains the standard anybody must read before talking about the effect of oil in and on our world.
Dennis
ANTI
Posted November 19, 2008 at 11:47 am | Permalink
It’s true Hitler was a Democrat!
German Medic’s Account Confirms Hitler Had Only One Testicle
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454744,00.html
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Get real, D A!!
Somebody get a fire extinguisher… ANTI is flaming again!!
Seems to me that many of the Anti-ESCR folks just want to throw those frozen embryos in the fire with their list of banned books… Makes about as much sense… WHY would anybody be opposed to life saving, and life changing research?? I guess I thought we Americans were better than that!!
I have a little something for you Chas.
As many know, I’ve been a long-term supporter of Northeast Magnet High School here in Wichita. Recently, the U.S. Department of Education profiled the school in a report; NEMHS is one of eight schools nationally so profiled.
Link to the NEMHS profile page: http://www.ed.gov/admins/comm/choice/magnet-hs/report_pg23.html#sec23
Oops: should be “one of eight magnet high schools nationally so profiled”.
VT, thats a wonderful achievement for the former Matthewson Jr. High…. Congrats to them!!
Thanks for sharing that VT!
Northeast Magnet High School
One of Wichita’s best-kept secrets. Wish it wasn’t kept a secret. I’m so glad this much-deserving program received this recognition.
THIS JUST IN (from an email friend of many years):
Stunning Break with Last Eight Years
In the first two weeks since the election, President-elect Barack Obama has broken with a tradition established over the past eight years through his controversial use of complete sentences, political observers say.
Millions of Americans who watched Mr. Obama’s appearance on CBS’ “Sixty Minutes” on Sunday witnessed the president-elect’s unorthodox verbal tick, which had Mr. Obama employing grammatically correct sentences virtually every time he opened his mouth.
But Mr. Obama’s decision to use complete sentences in his public pronouncements carries with it certain risks, since after the last eight years many Americans may find his odd speaking style jarring.
According to presidential historian Davis Logsdon of the University of Minnesota, some Americans might find it alienating to have a President who speaks English as if it were his first language.
“Every time Obama opens his mouth, his subjects and verbs are in agreement,” says Mr. Logsdon.
“If he keeps it up, he is running the risk of sounding like an elitist.”
The historian said that if Mr. Obama insists on using complete sentences in his speeches, the public may find itself saying, “Okay, subject, predicate, subject predicate – we get it, stop showing off.”
The President-elect’s stubborn insistence on using complete sentences has already attracted a rebuke from one of his harshest critics, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.
“Talking with complete sentences there and also too talking in a way that ordinary Americans like Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder can’t really do there, I think needing to do that isn’t tappin’ into what Americans are needin’ also,” she said.
There goes Missouri as a bellwether state. They just went for McCain. Best part is Obama’s victory was such that no single state left anyone hanging without knowing the outcome.
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/we-are-all-flint-mi-now/
for those who might be interested, and don’t want to read my post on the bailout thread.
The DOW closes below 8000.
lindainks55
Posted November 19, 2008 at 3:01 pm | Permalink
The DOW closes below 8000.
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Look on the bright side, gas is getting cheaper!
If you have the chance get outside, take a walk, sit the sunshine…
It is a beeeeuuuutiful day in kakeland!
sit *in* the sunshine
sigh
Ok, any of you attorneys or law enthusiasts out there, I need your help… That abortion truck was driving around again and of course, my kids saw it. How can we get that abomination off of the street. It is completely R rated and should not be allowed on our streets, NO MATTER WHAT SIDE YOU ARE ON. You cannot tell me that a 6 year old should see that.
It is a beeeeuuuutiful day in kakeland!
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You are absolutely correct about that!!
Enjoy it!
It’s not an abortion truck, it’s a ministery.
newsletter,
While I share your objections to the vehicle in question, its right to be on the street is protected by the First Amendment, IMHO.
Ben posted April 2, 2008 at 1:44 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/states-fed-up-with-epa-on-co2/#comment-324166
regular – as the case with Paul you are dead wrong. Just because I can have large CO2 concentrations in a localized or enclosed space does not mean that there are not global averages.
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Regular posted April 2, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Okay Ben, since you state co2 is static all over the globe, by conclusion there is no need for co2 regulations as nothing affects the rise or fall of co2.
Therefore, any co2 regulations trying to enforce co2 levels is a farce.
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Regular posted April 2, 2008 at 3:29 pm
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Ben posted April 2, 2008 at 3:26 pm
“Okay Ben, since you state co2 is static all over the globe”
Show me where I stated that. Another LIE.
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Don’t try and wriggle out of this one Ben. You claim what I have written is false, yet don’t have the capacity to state why.
Your inference that co2 is at all co2 is in static equilibrium is quite apparent.
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Republican [aka Regular] posted May 25, 2007 at 12:06 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_24-6/#comment-239646
According to Cosmos, the oceans are saturated . . .
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cosmos posted May 25, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Republican,
“According to Cosmos, the oceans are saturated …”
Thank you for again LYING about what I said, and the issue. Republican again proves that he has zero credibility.
This is what I posted. Note the ‘headline’.—”Ooops! Happening earlier than scientists expected!
‘Southern Ocean already losing ability to absorb CO2′
[link]
“Corinne Le Quéré at the University of East Anglia in the UK, and colleagues say their study suggests that climate feedback loops – whereby more CO2 in the atmosphere causes warming which in turn releases even more CO2 from the oceans – are happening between 20 and 40 years before they were expected.” “
Graphics displays of aborted babies prevent some of the other babies from being mangled, dismembered, poisoned, and beheaded in abortion mills, by persuading the mothers against it, and for that reason, are completely justified.
If you don’t want your children seeing the graphic displays, then run the criminal abortionist quacks out of town or shut down their illegal, unsafe abortion mills.
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The ongoing successes in ethical adult stem cell research now include a new method of windpipe transplant, using tissue grown from the patient’s own stem cells.
Meanwhile, useless, unethical embryonic stem cell research cures nothing, likely never will.
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In their letter, the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice and several Jewish and mainline Protestant bodies that include the United Church of Christ, the United Methodist General Board of Church and Society, and Jewish groups such as Hadassah, Jewish Women International, the National Council of Jewish Women, and the Union for Reform Judaism are urging Obamanation to use your tax money to pay for unrestricted abortions throughout the USofA and abroad, funding the UNFPA to promote forced foreign abortions to reduce undesirable populations, trashing pro-life restrictions like the Hyde Amendment, and repealing the Mexico City policy.
[Why are they bothering with their pretexts of religious affiliation to demand millions more profitably mangled, dismembered, poisoned, and beheaded babies? Surely no one thinks these barbarians are religious.]
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The Feminazi Majority Foundation is lobbying Obamanation to launch a political assault on pro-life pregnancy centers that provide desperate mothers with information and assistance in keeping their baby or applying for the adoption of their baby.
Abortion mills and their political puppets care about profits, not about adoption referrals, informed consent, breast cancer, later premature births and infant mortality, or the devastating permanent physical, emotional, psychological, and spiritual scarring of mothers that they inflict.
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Obamanation and his abortion lobby are strongly objecting to President Bush’s sweeping new right of conscience rule now going into effect, to prohibit recipients of federal money from discriminating against doctors, nurses and other health care workers who refuse to perform or to assist in the performance of abortions or sterilization procedures because of their “religious beliefs or moral convictions.”
It might take Obamanation months to be able to force medical workers to commit the abortions that feed abortion mill profits into Democrat coffers, while feeding mangled, dismembered, poisoned, and beheaded babies into incinerators and garbage disposals.
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A six-months pregnant Chinese woman was being kept under guard at a local hospital, facing the forced abortion of her third child. Arzigul Tursun and her husband have been told by authorities that they are only allowed two children because of their location and registration in western China. Arzigul has fled the hospital twice, only to be found and brought back after her relatives were threatened. “The deputy chief of the village threatened that if we didn’t find Arzigul and bring her to the village, she would confiscate our land and all our property,” Tursun’s husband Nurmemet Tohtasin told Radio Free Asia’s Uyghur Service. This woman was released, however, after pro-lifers worked with the Bush administration to stop this one barbaric act.
This is an example of China’s population control policies that Obamanation will support with your precious tax money, immediately after his [sigh] inauguration.
[And there is nothing you can do to stop him, other than uselessly complaining to your leftist, pro-abortion 3rd-district “congressman.”]
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Strangers mourned at the funeral of Maria Del Pilar, the newborn girl dumped in a Prince George’s County, MD field to die from exposure on October 12. They were the homicide detectives who accused the girl’s mother, Wendy Y. Villatoro, 25, of murder.
It’s not an abortion truck, it’s a ministery. — DavidB
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What is that ministry accomplishing?
cosmos is trying really hard to loose his freedom to post here on the blog. :)
loose= lose
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 11:09 am
Oh yeah?
Name some of those proven lies.
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http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1119/#comment-471808
Just how would Cosmos lose his freedopm to post on this Blog?? That answer would seem to be a real good laugh!! LOL
DavidB
Posted November 19, 2008 at 4:42 pm | Permalink
It’s not an abortion truck, it’s a ministery.
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David B —- Is that really you???
The oil companies and S.A., should bail out the American car companies!
Chas, I think DavidB was being satirical, but maybe not. We all have our opinions, our causes, our convictions… In case he wasn’t invoking satire and because he is a poster I respect I want to know what he thinks that truck’s ministry is accomplishing.
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Chas
Posted November 19, 2008 at 5:28 pm | Permalink
Just how would Cosmos lose his freedopm to post on this Blog?? That answer would seem to be a real good laugh!! LOL
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Naw, a good laugh is posting something a few times or even a couple dozen times.
It becomes psychopathic and misdemeanor stalking when you do it hundreds of times like cosmos.
I think he was joking.
parkay
Posted November 19, 2008 at 5:00 pm | Permalink
Graphics displays of aborted babies prevent some of the other babies from being mangled, dismembered, poisoned, and beheaded in abortion mills, by persuading the mothers against it, and for that reason, are completely justified.
If you don’t want your children seeing the graphic displays, then run the criminal abortionist quacks out of town or shut down their illegal, unsafe abortion mills.
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We’d be much better off to melt YOU down, fake butter, and un your butt out of town!!
At least kids wouldnt have to look at such a bunch of numb nuts BS like that damned truck!
un = run
Cold, Hard Facts
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, November 17, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Climate Change: Despite record snows and low temperatures around the world last month, a major Al Gore supporter says October was the hottest on record. The only thing being cooked here is not the Earth, but the books.
James Hansen, head of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies and global warming alarmist, is Al Gore’s favorite scientist, part of that mythical global warming “consensus” that says we are doomed and man is the culprit. On Nov. 10 he announced that last month was the hottest October on record and we were still doomed.
Snowboarders march through snow in Saas-Fee, 1,800 meters above sea level, in Switzerland on Oct. 30 after Snowboard World Cup qualifying was canceled due to heavy snowfall.
Dr. Hansen has not only become global warming’s Robin to Al Gore’s Batman, he has also been a critic of the “deniers,” those who dare to insist that the debate is far from over, and that the computer models used can’t even predict the past, much less the future.
Hansen has said in the past that “heads of major fossil-fuel companies who spread disinformation about global warming should be ‘tried for high crimes against humanity and nature.’ ” They pay for self-serving studies, and any scientist who disagrees with Gore is obviously on the take.
Christopher Booker, writing in the U.K. Telegraph, reports that Hansen apparently has been spreading disinformation all his own to come up with a conclusion that flies in the face of empirical evidence we can see with our own eyes.
Hansen’s claim of the hottest October ever came after reports of unseasonal snow and record low temperatures.
China’s official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its “worst snowstorm ever.”
The Swiss lowlands last month got the most snow for any October since records began.
Zurich received 20 centimeters, breaking the record of 14 cm set in 1939.
Ocala, Fla., experienced the second-lowest temperature recorded for October since 1850.
Elsewhere in the U.S., the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th warmest October in 114 years. So how did Hansen claim it was the warmest?
Booker writes: “The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running.”
As Booker reports, the glaring error was picked up by two intrepid climate bloggers — U.S. meteorologist Anthony Watts of Watts Up With That and Steve McIntyre of Climate Audit.
McIntyre is the Canadian computer analyst who won fame for his expert debunking of the infamous “hockey stick” graph that purported to show Earth’s temperature as stable until man started building SUVs, causing a sharp upward spike.
Caught with its pants down, the Goddard Institute started juggling its books. To compensate for the carrying over of the bogus temperature readings, it claimed to have discovered a new “hotspot” in the Arctic — in a month when satellite images were showing Arctic sea-ice 30% more extensive than at the same time last year. Ooops.
If Dr. Hansen thinks oil company executives should be tried for crimes against humanity for being skeptical about global warming claims and seeking the truth, what should the penalty be for him and his ilk? He is yelling fire in a crowded planet.
The Goddard now says it got the data from another body and didn’t have the resources to verify the data. In the computer world, there’s a phrase for this — garbage in, garbage out. The institute’s figures are one of four data sets used by the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to come up with its doomsday scenarios.
We took a little, er, heat recently when we wrote that major agencies tracking earth’s temperature (including the Hadley Climate Research Unit in Britain, the Christy group at the University of Alabama and Remote Sensing Systems Inc. in California) had reported “the earth cooled 0.7C in 2007, the fastest decline in the age of instrumentation, putting us back to where the earth was in 1930.”
Others, we were told, were claiming it wasn’t so. They’d better check their numbers.
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 11:09 am
Oh yeah?
Name some of those proven lies.
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Kansas [aka Regular] posted December 29, 2007 at 4:26 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/12/open-thread-26/#comment-137544
Okay folks, less than 8 hours until count down is finished, then I’m out of here.
I will be keeping the Sabbath holy and won’t be participating on WE Blog.
Being as there is a desire for me to depart before 1 January 2008, I will be honoring that request.
So, you have less than eight hours to interact with me.
Not that any would, just saying…
:D
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Pat Herron posted December 29, 2007 at 7:42 pm
Kansas,
Last time you left, you never said you were coming back.
Again, do you mind if I take on your NIC, since you are leaving forever?
ThanksPat
Kansas Stalking Law
21-3438.Stalking.
(a) Stalking is an intentional, malicious and repeated following or harassment of another person and making a credible threat with the intent to place such person in reasonable fear for such person’s safety.
Stalking is a severity level 10, person felony.
(b) Any person who violates subsection (a) when there is a temporary restraining order or an injunction, or both, in effect prohibiting the behavior described in subsection (a) against the same person, is guilty of a severity level 9, person felony.
(c) Any person who has a second or subsequent conviction occurring against such person, within seven years of a prior conviction under subsection (a) involving the same victim, is guilty of a severity level 8, person felony.
(d) For the purposes of this section: (1) “Course of conduct” means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose and which would cause a reasonable person to suffer substantial emotional distress, and must actually cause substantial emotional distress to the person. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of “course of conduct.”
(2) “Harassment” means a knowing and intentional course of conduct directed at a specific person that seriously alarms, annoys, torments or terrorizes the person, and that serves no legitimate purpose.
(3) “Credible threat” means a verbal or written threat, including that which is communicated via electronic means, or a threat implied by a pattern of conduct or a combination of verbal or written statements and conduct made with the intent and the apparent ability to carry out the threat so as to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for such person’s safety. The present incarceration of a person making the threat shall not be a bar to prosecution under this section.
(4) “Electronic means” includes, but is not limited to, telephones, cellular phones, computers, video recorders, fax machines, pagers and computer networks.
How’s the stock market doing today? Are ya’ll still buy-buy-buying?
You ought to buy a bunch of stocks for your friends and family this Christmas.
Maybe a new car is in order? Cause you really gotta do what you can to keep the Big 3 afloat. We all do, it’s the American Way.
Liberal activists have long legislative wish list
Nov 8, 12:03 AM (ET)
By DAVID CRARY
NEW YORK (AP) – Gays serving openly in the military. Voting rights for more ex-convicts. Paid sick days and family leave for most American workers.
Those are part of a long wish list that liberal advocacy groups hope will become reality as Barack Obama and his fellow Democrats take full control in Washington. Activists concede that political pragmatism – and the economic crisis – may force them to be patient, but they also don’t want to let this opportunity pass without pressing hard for their agenda.
“We’ve been waiting a long time, and we’ve got a long list,” said Kim Gandy, president of the National Organization for Women. “Since 1994, we’ve been losing over and over on legislation related to equality and fair treatment for women.”
NOW, after backing Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic primaries, threw its support behind Obama in his race against John McCain and Sarah Palin.
Feminist leaders now want Obama and the new Congress to address pay inequity for women, require most employers to offer paid sick days and paid family leave, and pass the Freedom of Choice Act, which would overrule many state-level restrictions on access to abortion.
The gay-rights movement also campaigned vigorously for Obama. It hopes for swift action on two bills previously debated in Congress – a measure that would outlaw workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation, and a hate-crimes bill that would cover offenses motivated by anti-gay bias.
Beyond that, gay activists hope for some sort of federal recognition of same-sex partnerships and for repeal of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy that prohibits active-duty service members from openly acknowledging they are gay.
However, the extent of congressional support for those two potentially divisive steps remains in question. Activists are braced for the possibility that Obama – as he seeks broad political support early in his term – won’t tackle them immediately.
“We know the next administration will have a lot on its plate, facing the biggest economic crisis in a generation,” said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. “Those are our issues, too.”
Regarding “don’t ask, don’t tell,” Obama recently said he wants to work with military leaders to build a consensus on removing the ban so gays can serve openly.
A leader of the campaign against the ban, Aubrey Sarvis of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, said such a deliberate approach seemed sensible – as long as it produced an end to “don’t ask, don’t tell” before the next congressional elections in 2010.
“There’s a very full agenda … so I know we’re going to have to get in line,” Sarvis said. “Hopefully, we see a partnership with the White House, the Defense Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff that results in a recommendation for repeal.”
Elaine Donnelly, who as president of the Center for Military Readiness opposes any role for gays in the armed forces, said Congress might not be as eager as Obama to let gays serve openly.
“If the Democrats do push it through, there will be political consequences,” she said.
Many constituencies, including feminists, ethnic minorities and gays, will be looking closely at the new administration’s high-level appointments. The head of the largest gay-rights group, Joe Solmonese of the Human Rights Campaign, said he expected gays to receive major appointments, not just to “symbolic” posts related to AIDS or gay issues.
Among Obama’s staunchest campaign backers was the abortion-rights movement, which is no longer worried that Supreme Court vacancies over the next four years might be filled by anti-abortion judges.
Now, groups such as NARAL Pro-Choice America and the Planned Parenthood Federation of America want Obama and Congress to move aggressively on several initiatives that were thwarted during the Bush administration. Priorities include expanded access to birth control and family-planning services, and a shift from Bush-supported abstinence-only sex education to comprehensive programs that include teaching about contraception.
“There’s been a lack of information and health care services for teens,” said Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards. “No one’s really talking to them honestly.”
NARAL’s president, Nancy Keenan, said a push for passage of the Freedom of Choice Act might be deferred while advocacy groups assess how abortion issues will fare in the new Congress. The proposed act, which Obama supports, has been assailed by conservatives as a threat to many state laws, including those requiring parental notification before a minor can have an abortion.
An array of other advocacy groups are stepping forward with their priorities for the new Congress.
A coalition of groups favoring criminal-justice reforms wants to eliminate the sentencing disparity that produces longer prison terms related to crack cocaine, which is prevalent in inner cities, than for powder cocaine. The coalition also is calling for federal voting rights to be extended to more people leaving prison.
The National Council of La Raza, representing a nationwide Latino community that tilted heavily in Obama’s favor, wants Congress to tackle immigration reform in way that would provide supportive options for immigrants working in this country illegally.
“We start out with expectation we’ll be able to work closely together on this,” said Cecilia Munoz, a La Raza vice president. “Where we need to push, we intend to push.”
Kenneth Sherrill, a Hunter College political scientist, predicted that advocacy groups would understand – but only to an extent – if the economy takes precedence over their pet priorities.
“Are the brakes applied equally and fairly across constituencies, or are certain constituencies told to wait longer than others?” he wondered. “Some people will be very unhappy if they’re told to wait at the back of the line.”
Some of the left-of-center movements have been comparing notes, and discussing the value of letting Obama get his presidency started without a clamor for swift action on their agendas.
“There will be disappointments – that’s expected,” said Winnie Stachelberg of the Center for American Progress. “But there’s a larger sense of needing to be sure this work is done well and carefully. It took eight years to get into this mess, and we will not get out of it in one year.”
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081108/D94AHT4G0.html
American posted November 19, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Cold, Hard Facts
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‘Mountains out of molehills‘
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/11/mountains_out_of_molehills.php
“It was entirely predictable that the denialists would hype up the glitch in the surface temperature record for last month. This opinion piece by Christopher Booker was picked up by Drudge, so the usual collection of global warming denialists have been fulminating about how this proves you can’t trust the science.”
Much more at link.
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Kansas Stalking Law
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Gee Regular. . . I’m just doing what you asked.
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 11:09 am
Oh yeah?
Name some of those proven lies.
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See above.
Regular
Posted November 19, 2008 at 5:56 pm | Permalink
Kansas Stalking Law
21-3438.Stalking.
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And your point would be…???
Regular,
Were you LYING when you ASKED to be shown some of your lies?
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 11:09 am
Oh yeah?
Name some of those proven lies.
cosmos_originally,
Are you Carl Sagan’s nephew?
Heh heh.
Regular–
Upon further reflection and new information I just learned today (nothing to do with the stalking post), I’ve decided that you probably aren’t Jim Johnson.
I apologize for accusing you of nic switching.
That’s all.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled hair pulling and mudslinging . . .
Scientists Find New Penguin, Extinct for 500 Years
Wednesday, November 19, 2008
WELLINGTON, New Zealand — Researchers studying a rare and endangered species of penguin have uncovered a previously unknown species that disappeared about 500 years ago.
The research suggests that the first humans in New Zealand hunted the newly found Waitaha penguin to extinction by 1500, about 250 years after their arrival on the islands.
But the loss of the Waitaha allowed another kind of penguin to thrive — the yellow-eyed species that now also faces extinction, Philip Seddon of Otago University, a co-author of the study, said Wednesday.
The team was testing DNA from the bones of prehistoric modern yellow-eyed penguins for genetic changes associated with human settlement when it found some bones that were older — and had different DNA.
Tests on the older bones “lead us to describe a new penguin species that became extinct only a few hundred years ago,” the team reported in a paper in the biological research journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences.
Seddon said dating techniques used on bones pulled from old Maori trash pits revealed a gap in time between the disappearance of the Waitaha and the arrival of the yellow-eyed penguin.
The gap indicates the extinction of the older bird created the opportunity for the newer to colonize New Zealand’s main islands around 500 years ago, said Sanne Boessenkool, an Otago University doctoral student who led the team of researchers, including some from Australia’s Adelaide University and New Zealand’s Canterbury Museum.
Competition between the two penguin species may have previously prevented the yellow-eyed penguin from expanding north, the researchers noted.
David Penny of New Zealand’s Massey University, who was not involved in the research, said the Waitaha was an example of another native species that was unable to adapt to a human presence.
“In addition, it is vitally important to know how species, such as the yellow-eyed penguin, are able to respond to new opportunities,” he said. “It is becoming apparent that some species can respond to things like climate change, and others cannot. The more we know, the more we can help.”
The yellow-eyed penguin is considered one of the world’s rarest. An estimated population of 7,000 in New Zealand is the focus of an extensive conservation effort.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454509,00.html
‘Unexpected ocean cooling result found to be an error; 2nd warmest October on record‘
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1158
Hey parkay?
I told my kid that your truck was run and sponsored by Christians who want to frighten children.
Ya know? Pretty much the truth?
Sick kook.
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cosmos_originally
Posted November 19, 2008 at 6:18 pm | Permalink
Regular,
Were you LYING when you ASKED to be shown some of your lies?
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 11:09 am
Oh yeah?
Name some of those proven lies.
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The question was not directed towards you now was it?
Everyone on this blog knows that your definition of a lie is someone that disagrees with you.
Unless you are claiming to be Blaidd which says he doesn’t switch nicks.
A little inside baseball.
I heard yesterday that Dennis McKinney is going to be the next State Treasurer. Sebelius will supposedly appoint him to replace Jenkins.
I find it hard to believe, but the source is credible. Anyone else heard this?
The Bank Terrorist
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Housing: For years, a self-described “bank terrorist” blackmailed banks into making bad home loans in our inner cities. Now those loans are defaulting by the millions, and he’s blaming banks.
Bruce Marks, founder of the leftist Neighborhood Assistance Corp. of America, makes a good living shaking down banks for loans to deadbeat borrowers that he thinks are entitled to homes.
Activist Bruce Marks, speaking in February at a housing conference, has a history of terrorizing banks until they make questionable home loans.
Last month, he and about 100 urban protesters stormed Fannie Mae’s headquarters, demanding it stop foreclosures on subprime houses — the same homes his group pressured Fannie to fund.
As usual, the bullying tactics worked: Fannie Mae is now reviewing every foreclosure, while increasing the number of mortgages it restructures by lowering interest rates and extending loan terms to make payments more affordable. The government-backed firm guarantees some 30% of the nation’s outstanding mortgages.
Marks founded Boston-based NACA last decade to fulfill his warped sense of the American dream. He thinks owning a home is a right, not a goal. And he thinks every American should have a house — even those who can’t pay for one.
Marks, who proudly calls himself a bank terrorist, has extorted billions of dollars from Citigroup and other large banks to subsidize uncreditworthy borrowers in the inner city, where he accused the banks of “redlining.”
In 2004, for example, he threatened to blow up a merger deal between Bank of America and Fleet Bank by complaining to regulators that the banks weren’t making enough loans to minorities under the Community Reinvestment Act. The banks, in turn, paid him off with $6 billion in mortgage commitments.
The nonprofit NACA uses such ransom money to fund its own mortgages to high-risk borrowers without requiring down payments or good credit. Marks considers such underwriting requirements “patronizing and racist.”
He boasts that 99% of the mortgage applications taken through NACA are approved, giving new meaning to the term “easy lending.” Listen to NACA’s pitch:
“Come to NACA, and regardless of how bad your credit is, regardless of how little you have saved, we will work with you for as long as it takes, until you are prepared for a mortgage better than what the wealthiest, most connected borrowers get.”
These are the standards NACA and ACORN and other bank terrorists foisted on the banking industry, using as their cudgel the Community Reinvestment Act, which mandates (under threat of severe penalty) that banks make inner-city loans to people who can’t afford them. Now these groups have the nerve to demonize the banks for the inevitable foreclosures.
How many of NACA’s borrowers default on NACA’s own loans? We don’t know. Marks won’t disclose his internal data.
But by the end of the last decade, 8% of the mortgages NACA had arranged through Fleet Bank were delinquent, compared with the national average of 1.9%
Congress’ banking committee chiefs, Sen. Chris Dodd and Rep. Barney Frank, are also demanding banks stop foreclosures. And guess who they’ve invited to testify about that? That’s right: Marks, who has proposed stopping all resets on subprime adjustable mortgages and allowing late payments for up to 90 days.
Marks insists that regulators “force” lenders to restructure their loans to prevent foreclosures from going forward.
“For noncooperative lenders,” he says, “the regulators can and must impose ‘cease and desist’ orders.”
For future underwriting practices, Marks urges lenders to adopt the NACA model.
“NACA has done lending the right way,” he says. “No down payment. No closing costs. No fees. No perfect credit. At a below-market fixed rate.”
And no repayment or profit. Call it Marksism.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=311990700249053
ksfarmgrrl,
Dennis McKinney is going to be the next State Treasurer.
Correct.
Regular,
This is a public blog. If you want to have a private conversation with Blaidd, then get his/her email, and have it away from this blog.
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cosmos_originally
Posted November 19, 2008 at 7:56 pm | Permalink
Regular,
This is a public blog. If you want to have a private conversation with Blaidd, then get his/her email, and have it away from this blog.
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Correct, this is a public blog.
It also means it doesn’t give you license to harass other posters day after day over a three year period.
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 8:00 pm
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cosmos_originally posted November 19, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Regular,
This is a public blog. If you want to have a private conversation with Blaidd, then get his/her email, and have it away from this blog.
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Correct, this is a public blog.
It also means it doesn’t give you license to harass other posters day after day over a three year period.
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Regular, if you don’t want to see examples of your lies, then don’t ask to see them.
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 11:09 am
Oh yeah?
Name some of those proven lies.
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cosmos_originally
Posted November 19, 2008 at 8:11 pm | Permalink
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 8:00 pm
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cosmos_originally posted November 19, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Regular,
This is a public blog. If you want to have a private conversation with Blaidd, then get his/her email, and have it away from this blog.
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Correct, this is a public blog.
It also means it doesn’t give you license to harass other posters day after day over a three year period.
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Regular, if you don’t want to see examples of your lies, then don’t ask to see them.
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 11:09 am
Oh yeah?
Name some of those proven lies.
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Again dunder head, I did not address this to you now did I?
What part of ‘unwelcome butting in’ do you not understand?
Like I said, you standard of what a lie is, is when someone disagrees with you you.
You have the same type of personality that that Dennis Rader has, you are a danger to society.
Regular,
Are you claiming that you have NEVER posted ANYTHING in response to posts between other posters, aka your “butting in”?
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cosmos_originally
Posted November 19, 2008 at 8:23 pm | Permalink
Regular,
Are you claiming that you have NEVER posted ANYTHING in response to posts between other posters, aka your “butting in”?
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No I’m claming to Brownlee and the Publisher of the Wichita Eagle that you should stop harassing me with posts from two years ago by reposing them hundreds of times.
If you can’t resist doing it, then you should be considered no long suitable for this Blog and permanently banned.
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 8:28 pm
No I’m claming to Brownlee and the Publisher of the Wichita Eagle that you should stop harassing me with posts from two years ago by reposing them hundreds of times.
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Are you going to give Mr. Brownlee “hundreds” of links to support your claim?
He may not believe you, since you have LIED about what Ben, others, and I have posted. For example,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1119/#comment-471808
And be sure to explain to him why you’re complaining, after you ASKED to be shown your lies.
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cosmos_originally
Posted November 19, 2008 at 8:43 pm | Permalink
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 8:28 pm
No I’m claming to Brownlee and the Publisher of the Wichita Eagle that you should stop harassing me with posts from two years ago by reposing them hundreds of times.
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Are you going to give Mr. Brownlee “hundreds” of links to support your claim?
He may not believe you, since you have LIED about what Ben, others, and I have posted. For example,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1119/#comment-471808
And be sure to explain to him why you’re complaining, after you ASKED to be shown your lies.
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I’m sure the Wichita Eagle has access to Lexus Nexis and can search using the proper parameters how many times you accessed via hyperlink.
There are also a number of root server functions that can ferret out described parameters quite easilty.
Evidently, you’re very novice what can be shown on the Internet.
And yes, if necessary I’ll provide hand searched links.
How to send Phillip a message…
I got it!
I think if anyone should be banned from this blog, both for their own and the collective good, it should be ol’ “Regular” gets the heave ho and hat handed to him.
All those in favor?
I
Actually Junior, it should be an your fellow thugs that should be banned, that threaten people in real life by handing out their addresses, phone numbers, driving by their houses, stalking them and generally plotting real life actions against them.
You radical Libds do not understand this is a blog where opinions are given. One does not throw in personal identification of people blogging here and try to intimidate them with it.
If this were a real life discussion, you would have been bloodied and left for dead long ago.
So feel lucky you can hide behind your computer.
“. One does not throw in personal identification ”
I didn’t do that. I wasn’t even blogging then.
I thought you did it yourself.
But now? I KNOW who it was. Lots of people do.
And you would never in nine million years guess who it was.
And I of course, am not going to tell you.
“If this were a real life discussion, you would have been bloodied and left for dead long ago.”
By you? I’m thinking no. I’ve seen you remember.
So easily the inner (but physically limited) psycho is brought out in you though.
You’re bitching because your own words including lies, threats, nic stealing are being used against you. You have done that to yourself.
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 8:50 pm
And yes, if necessary I’ll provide hand searched links.
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If you don’t have “hundreds” of links, how do you know that there are “hundreds” of links?
I suggest that you search first, so you don’t prove yourself a liar. . . again. And read the context upthread of my posts.
Please remind the editors of this post.
Regular posted March 19, 2008 at 5:13 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-319/#comment-316172
It looks like Brownlee won’t do anything with this blog, so I’m whipping out blog mayhem and torture.
Be prepared to get ugly spilled upon you.
Brownlee wants this blog to be amateur hour, well here it comes.
You’ll never know when it strikes.
(b00m)
We have a new Blog, check it out on the front page.
Welcome to Air Capital Insider
Hi! I’m Molly McMillin, aviation and aerospace reporter for the Wichita Eagle. Today starts Day One of a new aviation blog designed to fill you in on all the latest news, tidbits and happenings in the aviation industry in Wichita and elsewhere. I also hope it will generate discussion on issues important to you. So check back often, and please post your thoughts, comments and suggestions.
Tailwinds!
So Regular, do you deny joining HLP in the harrassment of Apophis a few months back? I would think threatening to expose what you thought was the true identity of a poster is harrassment.
Or, is it okay for YOU do those kinds of things but not okay for others?
HLP harrass Apophis?
That is all that idiot did was harrass my father and I.
The crap that guy was spewing on this thread while claiming to be a teacher? He was begging for someone to find out who he was.
Perhaps if he didn’t post half the crap he did, he wouldn’t have had anything to be hiding his identity from.
What an idiot.
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Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted November 19, 2008 at 9:41 pm | Permalink
So Regular, do you deny joining HLP in the harrassment of Apophis a few months back? I would think threatening to expose what you thought was the true identity of a poster is harrassment.
Or, is it okay for YOU do those kinds of things but not okay for others?
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Would have left Apophis alone if he would have behaved like a decent human being.
Instead he called everyone names, threatened people and generally was a small mouth example of what the public does not need representing it’s schools.
Besides, what we did was one day and one day only. If Apophis wanted to stick around after that, it was up to him.
Just wanted to let him know there are consequences for bad behavior which mock people’s beliefs, military service and generally put himself on a pedestal as an untouchable.
blah, stroke symptoms making me very tired and incoherent…
Ah, I see.
If you have right-wing leanings, you can automatically become a “judge” of others. It’s “mocking” when it comes at you, but it’s okay when it’s coming from you.
Hypocrites
Have none of you heard of the art of controlling your desire to respond? A rebuttal is never necessary!
Linda,
You wouldn’t be suggesting to others how to act or behave would you?
I thought you hated that…
LOL
I must have been busy and missed it, but whatever someone did to get rid of Oedipus….good work, ha.
Hope you are doing well Reg.
Here goes another right-wing “judgement”.
Linda, would you please make me a sandwich?
There goes another left-wing “judgement”
What I was going to say, before I had a brain fart, it that Apophis started to get down right rude.
He was using my last name on a regular basis, I already knew his name for a long time before and could have used it at any time.
It appears that Apophis didn’t not like the reciprocal treatment he was doling out.
As you can see, I haven’t brought anything more about Apophis real name, his personal life or his job sense then.
Libs on the other hand, don’t play by the same rules and will abuse the information.
This blog is for discussion, not bullying. But Let me warn you, at 76 inches tall and in the 1/8th ton category, I don’t bully easily and will take it to you if need be.
What a spirited discussion? Fine, let’s get it on, but let’s leave all these childish mocking and name calling on the grammar school yard.
You mean like when you said something bad was going to happen to XXX soon or when you bagged on his wife?
Or, maybe you mean when you threatened to shoot me with your twice barrel?
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BlueJay
Posted November 19, 2008 at 10:32 pm | Permalink
You mean like when you said something bad was going to happen to XXX soon or when you bagged on his wife?
Or, maybe you mean when you threatened to shoot me with your twice barrel?
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You see, that’s precisely the point.
I say something ONCE and you Libs perpetuate it, wearing it like a holy symbol of questing.
There’s a big difference in saying something and letting it go, than to repeat it over and over to a drum beat of twisted justice.
I am as comfortable with something I said 3 years ago as something I said here 3 minutes ago “Regular”
YOU want absolution from minute to minute and nic to nic.
Regular,
What do you expect from someone who is teaching his kid to hate others?
BlueJay is obviously not right in the head.
He would rather let his son go without health care to serve his own “principle” of not working for the man.
He just isn’t right in the head.
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 10:12 pm
What[sic] a spirited discussion? Fine, let’s get it on, but let’s leave all these childish mocking and name calling on the grammar school yard.
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Some examples of Regular’s idea of “spirited discussion” without “childish mocking and name calling”.
“cosmos gasbagging his way to more one liners of attack. It’s not a wonder that cosmos large intestines are the size of fire hose and just as deadly with the expulsion of stinky fumes.”
“I have no idea why cosmos has such a ‘hard on’ for the Sierra Club. Maybe he’s a local president of them, I don’t know. But he’s definetely in butt lust with them.”
“Yet more of cosmos denials and lies and his incessant lustful butt thrusting about the Sierra Club.
Once again, cosmos changes his story to suit the occasion. An incessant liar and toe licker for the Sierra Club.”
“I wonder if cosmos attentions to the Sierra Club involve courtship or is it just a straight illicit affair?”
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Multi-nic’d Regular claims that he represents “Kansas values”.
KFG,
If you are out there I would like to speak to you.
I am still waiting for the great liberal outcry of what a gun nut psychopath KFG is after the threats she made.
Thanks for proving my point cosmos, that you are one of those who dredge up past comments that are entirely useless to what is being discussed.
You have this strange obsession to win no matter what the cost.
You would rather win than be right on a matter or least conceded a matter has no solution foreseeable in the immediate future..
Now that is sad.
I hope there aren’t too many like you out there in the world cosmos. If there is, it’s going to be a sad place to live in.
lindainks55
Posted November 19, 2008 at 5:33 pm | Permalink
Chas, I think DavidB was being satirical, but maybe not. We all have our opinions, our causes, our convictions… In case he wasn’t invoking satire and because he is a poster I respect I want to know what he thinks that truck’s ministry is accomplishing.
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Linda, I thought maybe DavidB had been hacked like a few others in recent weeks..
He hasnt been back since, either…. hmmmmm…
Oh, btw cosmos,
Do you even live in Kansas?
If not, get the hell off this Kansas blog.
Damn, Regular, do you tell that to Tara, or SOL, or some of the “other” non-kansans??? Hmmm????
Or Rage from Arizona???
Or Pedant from Virginia???
Good Night all.
“BlueJay is obviously not right in the head.”
Oh I am NOT “right” in the head to be sure.
But if you are looking for mental deficiency? Well “Regular” who you punked out on is right here Nathan.
And so, of course are you.
Sorry,
I was sent an Email from Regular asking me to not come.
He was worried that BlueJay might start acting too crazy trying to insult me and that it would probably be better to not come…
BlueJay posted November 19, 2008 at 10:42 pm
I am as comfortable with something I said 3 years ago as something I said here 3 minutes ago “Regular”
YOU want absolution from minute to minute and nic to nic.
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Multi-nic’d Regular posted a while back that this blog was just a fantasy, and when you turn the computer off, it’s gone.
That suggests that Regular (aka “Republican”) takes no personal responsibility for what he posts here.
Is that right Nathan?
And, do you have that email?
Regular posted November 19, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Oh, btw cosmos,
Do you even live in Kansas?
If not, get the hell off this Kansas blog.
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What’s the matter Regular? Are you too wimpy to defend your opinions to people who no longer live in Kansas?
Maybe Regular should prove his “Kansas values”, by emailing Mr. Brownlee, and insisting that he BAN all posters who don’t “live in Kansas”?
“blah, stroke symptoms making me very tired and incoherent…” — Regular
Has anyone noticed any difference?
“Regular”?
Though you are decidedly not.
Sol lives in Michigan. Tara lives in Hawaii. generaston lives in Oregon I think.
Just what IS you interest in provincializing the blog to only include posters from Kansas?
I live in Mississippi. But, wait, no I am lying. James is from the poorest state in the union.
M, I, double S, I, double S, I, double P, I.
MI double S I double S I double P I
M I double S I double S I double P I
Right in the middle of the cotton belt
Down in the Mississippi Delta
Wearin’ last years possum belt
Smack dab in the Mississippi Delta
Have me a little that Johnny cake
A little bit of that apple pan dowdy
Pickin them scuppernon’s off that vine
Chigger bite, it’s goin’ to beat howdy
Ate me a bucket of Muscadine
Sit on the riverbank after dark
Drop my line down a crawdad hole
Do him in with a scaly bark
One-ree-o-ree-ee-reeanni
Fidderliss-farce-nickory-john-queery-quan
M I double S I double S I double P I
M I double S I double S I double P I
Right in the middle of the cotton belt
Down in the Mississippi Delta
Wearin last years possum belt
Smack dab in the Mississippi Delta
Sittin and scratchin’ mosquito bites
Old fox done give him the slip
Watchin’ the mornin’ glories grow
In Biloxi on an overnight trip
I bet five dollars to win two bits
Eat a peppermint stick on Sunday
Ain’t no use in’a hurrying up
Can’t leave till a week from Monday
One-ree-o-ree-ee-reeanni
Fidderliss-farce-nickory-john-queery-quan
In the Mississippi Delta
Miss-iss-siss-ippi Delta
http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/gentry-bobbie/mississippi-delta-13492.html
Sol lives in Michigan.
I live in Arizona. Pedant lives in Virginia. Ed Friedemann lives in Texas (even if he doesn’t post anymore). Tara is in Hawaii.
Presumably we all have Kansas connections. Or are completely insane. Whatever. :)
“Diesel Alternative Found on Patagonian Trees?
In an article to be published in November’s Microbiology journal, a team of scientists have discovered a type of fungus growing on the Patagonian ulmo tree which emits a concoction of hydrocarbons that is remarkably similar to diesel. In fact, the researchers believe the fungus could be used in diesel engines with little or no alteration.
Gary Strobel of Montana State University led the research. He said of the discovery, “This is the only organism that has ever been shown to produce such an important combination of fuel substances. We were totally surprised to learn that it was making a plethora of hydrocarbons.”"
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http://www.unknowncountry.com
I remember asking SOL that on one of the occasions Regular went on a tirade…. SOL said he didnt really have any Kansas connection… just liked to Blog here…
I am sure we will all watch closely to see when/if Regular tears into SOL about not being a Kansas Poster….
/srcasm off
Well —-
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!
blessings on all the children — even the grown up children!! LOL
so mote it be!!
BlueJay
Posted November 19, 2008 at 8:56 pm | Permalink
How to send Phillip a message…
I got it!
I think if anyone should be banned from this blog, both for their own and the collective good, it should be ol’ “Regular” gets the heave ho and hat handed to him.
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Sorry, Jay, he would just find a way to get back here. James is one really sick mofo. He has been banned twice that we know of. He seems to find a way back here and the editors have given up on keeping him away.
Too bad, James can’t find a life. He is the Ted Kaczynski of the WE Blog in both appearance and purpose.
If James ever says he wants to hang himself with is dirty underwear, I will try to stop him, but if others stop me, I would understand.
I’ve held off on the recent “Regular” stuff mostly because I think a lot of what he’s doing is directly attributable to his recent stroke.
Yeah he’s always been a few fries shy of a Happy Meal, but his complaints to the publisher won’t pass the Laugh Test if anyone at the paper has been paying attention.
I mean, the guy who gave us such terms as “CrapOnAmerica” and “MonkeyHock” is complaining about name-calling?
So many CONs playing the victim card since election day. Poor whimpering babies.
How frikkin’ child-like. No wonder this country is going fast down the tubes. No one gives a shet about anything that matter’s.
But don’t let me interrupt, ON WITH THE NYAH, NYAH’S!!!!!!!!!!!.
Ah, Steven Davis finally reveals his true self for the blog world to see.
Naked ugly aggression, entwined with Liberal unforgiving wrath and sputum of the literary confused.