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Yup, when liberals protest it’s peaceful until the cops start being violent.
ACLU presses Denver to investigate events surrounding DNC arrests
“Contrary to these sworn statements, legal observers, arrestees, detainees and media trapped inside of the police lines on 15th Street, and others like myself outside of the cordon, reported that they never heard any dispersal order given at 7:30 p.m. or any other time, nor were people given any opportunity to disperse,” Pendergrass wrote. Commander Dilley and Sergeant Foster, in addition, testified in court that an order to disperse was never given.
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On Thursday, Pendergrass followed up with Rosenthal after it was discovered that undercover DPD detectives trapped within the crowd on 15th Street staged struggles with uniformed officers in order to be “arrested” and removed. Pendergrass cited the Operations and Procedure Manual, §108.08 (2)(c), which states that “unprofessional police behavior can inflame a tense situation and make control efforts more difficult and dangerous.” § 108.08(6)(a)(4) further states that an undercover officer is to “assess the overall behavior and disposition of a crowd” but, Pendergrass said, the text “does not appear to authorize undercover officers to affirmatively engage in what would appear to members of the public and other officers to be illegal acts.” Pendergrass wrote that such acts by the detectives may have inflamed the situation, especially given the fact that an officer from neighboring Jefferson County, unaware that the plants were such, pepper sprayed them during the performance.
Full article at:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/ACLU_presses_City_and_County_of_1109.html
Maggot punk… be careful, or you’ll get em all riled up too early!! Wait till they get their coffee!! LOL
Yeah, it’s called Agents Provocateur. And your boy Obama, won’t stop them from trying to stop free speech either. Enjoy.
Have any examples Pleefer, or anything to back up your case? Or have you been Nat Turner from Paul’s library?
Pleefer?? Will you SHUT UP when nothing you have predicted actually happens?? ROFL!!
Chas, this is called free speech. And I’m going to use and abuse it. Right here, right in your fat frothing face. I’m going to stay here until you Changer’s get things really fukced up. I relish the idea to watch you squirm out of His policies. And the only thing that hasn’t happened was my Hillary “prediction”. You’ll see very soon. And I’ll be here in your fat face laughing my ass off. You boy has taken more money from Wall Street than McCain ever could. And that turd took a lot.
So to answer your question Chas, no, I will not shut up. Fukc you very much.
Good morning and remember God still loves you.
You betcha, Pleefer… I can use it too…
You Anti-American no nothing Facist!! Dont forget to salute Hitler in your mirror…
Happy Birthday to all of my Marine Corps brothers and sisters.
Semper Fi!
That was retarded. I can’t even muster a half-assed snicker. You’re not comedian material.
I love being in the middle, being the mercenary. Picking both of your rediculous “sides” off at will.
I’m the one who got laughed at around here for tying Bushco to Hitler.
Pleefer, what you apparently dont comprehend is that the Nation is tired of your style of fear mongering — It’s over!! Rush will figure it out… Hannity will figure it out, with copious amounts of whining and sniveling… Savage will crawl off into his anonymous corner… Even Walton and Johnson will be irrelevant….
We have a NEW President-elect… The transition will work smoothely, just as it always has… You and your ilk cant call for a new election yet… Get over it!! You all were shown to be wrong!! And when all of your phony predictions DONT happen… you will be in the territory of paranoia, and irrelevance!!
I have no use for you anymore… none…
So long national sovereignty
Other than the racial angle, the thing that has Barack Obama’s supporters most excited is the prospect that, thanks to ascension, America will once more be liked and respected around the world. Those aroused by this prospect can be divided into two categories. The first are the folks who believe, with the naivety only a certain type of liberal can possess, that a gesture (the election of Obama) can transform, lastingly and without cost, the way the world views us. These people are fools.
The second category are those who believe that Obama will take substantive positions that please foreigners and that, in particular, he will back measures that limit U.S. sovereignty. These people are on to something.
In the November 17 issue of the National Review (not available online to my knowledge), John Fonte of the Hudson Institute identifies four “transnational power grabs” that Obama is likely to push for They are: the Law of the Sea Treaty, the Rights of the Child Treaty, the Convention for the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW), and the International Criminal Court. Agreement by the U.S. to these arrangements would make us more popular with foreigners, but only at a cost to our national security, our right of self-governance, and our rights under the Constitution.
Read on to see how the above treaties reduce our sovereignty.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/11/022036.php
Hey, again dumb ass.
I’m not a “righty”. I don’t listen to Rush, Hannity or any of the other. You have a short memory. I understand the “fear-mongering” you speak of and Obama will carry it on.
We’ll be in as many wars as with Bushco. Enjoy your new President.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
But you do get fooled again.
“…the Law of the Sea Treaty, the Rights of the Child Treaty, the Convention for the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW), and the International Criminal Court.”
So, Heckler(aka Troll) —
You are against Rights of Children?? and you are FOR discrimination against women?? And you see no ned for a Law of the Sea (dealing with modern day piracy)???
And you see no need for an International Criminal Court, to deal with International crimes??
Oh gee, how “John Birchey” of you!!
“SOVEREIGNTY. The union and exercise of all human power possessed in a state; it is a combination of all power; it is the power to do everything in a state without accountability; to make laws, to execute and to apply them: to impose and collect taxes, and, levy, contributions; to make war or peace; to form treaties of alliance or of commerce with foreign nations, and the like. Story on the Const. Sec. 207.
2. Abstractedly, sovereignty resides in the body of the nation and belongs to the people. But these powers are generally exercised by delegation.
3. When analysed, sovereignty is naturally divided into three great powers; namely, the legislative, the executive, and the judiciary; the first is the power to make new laws, and to correct and repeal the old; the second is the power to execute the laws both at home and abroad; and the last is the power to apply the laws to particular facts; to judge the disputes which arise among the citizens, and to punish crimes.
4. Strictly speaking, in our republican forms of government, the absolute sovereignty of the nation is in the people of the nation; (q.v.) and the residuary sovereignty of each state, not granted to any of its public functionaries, is in the people of the state.”
So how is forming and maintaining workable relationships with other countries exactly a “threat” to OUR national sovereignty?
Wow! Chas is into the name calling early today. Guess he got up on the wrong side of someone’s bed this morning.
Well, you must get your crap from somewhere… people arent born so stupid… Where DO you find your junk???
The Birch Society?? Drudge?? You gotta find it somewhere…
Alright, who stole the agenda?
Change.gov, The Office of the President-Elect, no longer has an Agenda. It has an agenda selection; just no info in the agenda.
Just remember Charles, the Hud of the movies was a mean drunk. Strange who people find to admire.
There are many Right Wing Extremists in our midst… They are those who would plot to take over our government, with gods, guns, and hostilities toward those different from them… They live amog us… They vote… And they even Blog… They know who they are… Pity on them all!!
Their voices shall grow more silent with the passage of time… in a Real world, rather than in the world of fantasy where they spend their troubled lives…
Truly, they need to be pitied… and they need to find the help they so desperately need…
” that a gesture (the election of Obama) can transform, lastingly and without cost, the way the world views us.” — the wefu
Remember Jesus?
And of course a gesture can change the way the world views us. We are no longer considered the world’s most obnoxious racists.
Anti-American insurgents strike twice this morning in Iraq, killing many — injuring even more… Guess maybe the surge didnt work as good as getting our troops out of Iraq might have…
Truly support our troops… Tell Pres. Bush to bring them home NOW…. It might well be the last patriotic thing Bush can do before leaving office…
Mr. Bush, bring home our troops!!
LOL beber — yes, I do remember that movie… and “mean drunk” is a nice thing to say… LOL
beber, rremember:
Hud spelled backwards is “Duh”
how appropriate!!
In Church, the Last Great Hope used to be – GOD.
In a GODLESS AMERICA, HOPE is not in the Almighty God and Jesus Christ our Lord the Savior.
Now HOPE, even in Church, is OBAMA.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jckHBXEsdwMCU88AHdLU-7CrHHCAD94BN33G0
Churches across America reflect on Obama election
By ALLEN G. BREED – 14 hours ago
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Jubilation, pride and relief permeated pews and pulpits at predominantly black churches across the country on the first Sunday after Barack Obama’s election, with congregrants blowing horns, waving American flags and raising their hands to the heavens.
“God has vindicated the black folk,” the Rev. Shirley Caesar-Williams said as a member of her Raleigh congregation, Mount Calvary Word of Faith Church, brandished a flag and another marched among the pews blowing a ram’s horn.
“Too long we’ve been at the bottom of the totem pole, but he has vindicated us, hallelujah,” the Grammy-winning gospel singer cried. “I don’t know about you, but I don’t have nothing to put my head down for, praise God. Because when I look toward Washington, D.C., we got a new family coming in. We got a new family coming in. And you know what? They look like us. Amen, amen. They look like us.”
rather ironic..the childish vulgar one insinuates that the nic “Hud” relates to a mean drunk and thus dismisses anything that poster says.
Ironic in that ‘beber’ is the infinitive Spanish verb “to drink”. So, using the childish vulgar one’s “logic” we can assume that he is drunk.
This Chas character sounds like a retarded Walter Cronkite.
Just who are you attacking with your 7:32 am News Update post Chas?
Anyone with any credibility acknowledges the surge in Iraq worked.
Even Obama deleted his own criticism of the surge, AFTER the surge worked.
But Obama will F-U Iraq.
The words of HOPE and CHANGE or God D*mn America will not frighten away our enemies.
The surge worked, but a quick drawdown of troops will enable a complete reversal of the progress that has been made.
Jim…As the Wall Street Journal reported, yes, the surge did work. Unfortunately, that and the economy meltdown took the vast improvements in Iraq off people’s minds as the election approached.
JimJones, your white evangelical fundy freaks did the same thing when Bush was elected, twice.
So whatever man, whatever.
Why blacks are so heavily christian after how many white christian sects treat them blows my mind.
“The surge worked” like camping a policeman on the front porch of a wife beater works.
To hell with Iraq and the expense there. Bring our troops and money home.
As part of the reparations act of 2009, President elect Obama introduced Senate Bill Yo-mama that calls for all white people to be loaded into small boxes on the next empty oil tanker going back to Africa to be held in slavery by blacks.
Senate bill xyz 906 is the new bill introduced by Senator Obama to remove anyone’s tongue who voted against him.
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Yeah, you all sound this ridiculous.
“…the childish vulgar one insinuates that the nic “Hud” relates to a mean drunk”
Considering Chas, one has to let it slide because without name calling Chas could not post.
BTW, Hud come not from the movie but from the word “Hod”. I am sure Chas can make something of that.
pmama…I don’t remember anyone calling Bush “the messiah” when he was elected. I fail to remember people singing, blowing ram’s horns and fainting in churches due to his re-election. You care to refresh my memory on that?
You claim the same things happened as are happening now? You re-inventing history here?
Vult..er raptor?
I remember goons shutting down a recount and a stolen election.
Did they get what they were after I don’t know. Was it worth it for the country I guess since cons love spreading misery. bush has broken America just about beyond repair.
Hey, but probably you made money. So it’s good right?
“Why blacks are so heavily christian after how many white christian sects treat them blows my mind.” — p.m.
Because they aren’t any smarter than white people, p.m.
Hud
Posted November 10, 2008 at 7:24 am | Permalink
Wow! Chas is into the name calling early today. Guess he got up on the wrong side of someone’s bed this morning.
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Hud, cut Chas some slack. He stumbled home from the bar at 4:32 am today.
He’s a little grumpy.
Hod, hud, hudded?
what in the hell are you talking about, bj? off your meds this morning, or what? You STILL whining about stolen elections?
I’m a nice drunk.
Libs are very grouchy this fine morning…
I know, maybe Obama should buy them all a puppy.
Puppies are the most pressing of issues these days.
Breaking news on MSNBC:
Bush will resign from office Wed so Obama can take over sooner
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
Say Heckler, you missed one. You forgot to mention the revived UN Gun Ban Treaty:
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ib61fXeOYpOjGPiCae89ehNNsZUA
UN panel backs call for standards in arms trade
Oct 31, 2008
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) — A UN General Assembly panel on Friday overwhelmingly backed steps to draft a treaty establishing international standards for the arms trade.
It endorsed a resolution urging UN member states to consider how to implement “the highest possible standards to prevent the diversion of conventional arms from the legal to the illicit market, where they can be used for terrorist acts, organized crime and other criminal activities.”
Good morning XXX!
And happy birthday!
As the proud father of a United States Marine, please accept my sincere thanks for your service!
Hank
Hod = Carrier device, such as a coal shuttle…
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Hod =
Hod (”Majesty”; ???) in the Kabbalah of Judaism is the eighth sephira of the Kabbalistic tree of life. It is derived from hod ??? in the Hebrew language meaning “majesty” or “splendor” and denoting “praise” as well as “submission”.
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HOD >>>>
Encyclopedia of Canine Veterinary Medical Information
Hypertrophic Osteodystrophy (HOD)
Hypertrophic osteodystrophy causes lameness and extreme pain in young growing dogs, usually of a large breed. Great danes, German shepherds, dobermans, retrievers and weimaraners are examples of breeds that may be affected by this condition. It appears to occur in weimaraners as a vaccine reaction and this may also affect mastiffs and great Danes. In this case, it usually occurs a few days after vaccination and may appear to be worse than the “average” case on radiographs.
[http://www.vetinfo.com/dencyclopedia/dehod.html]
WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama’s advisers are quietly crafting a proposal to ship dozens, if not hundreds, of imprisoned terrorism suspects to the United States to face criminal trials, a plan that would make good on his promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison but could require creation of a controversial new system of justice.
During his campaign, Obama described Guantanamo as a “sad chapter in American history” and has said generally that the U.S. legal system is equipped to handle the detainees. But he has offered few details on what he planned to do once the facility is closed.
Geez, Hud (Duh) if you wanted HOD, you should have just chosen HOD!! ROFL!!
“Anti-American insurgents strike twice this morning in Iraq, killing many — injuring even more… Guess maybe the surge didnt work as good as getting our troops out of Iraq might have…” — Charles
Since bleeding us is a goal, there may be an increase in violence in Iraq to derail Obama’s attempts to disengage. I suspect that the many factions in Iraq can create a bloody day indeed whenever they want too, especially as we’ve declared the surge worked, and may be riding on a wave of overconfidence. Also remember, many U.S. corps have billion dollar stakes in us staying in place.
From Boortz
EMANUEL AND FREDDIE MAC
Some interesting information about Barack Obama’s new chief of staff Rahm Emanuel … Emanuel served on the board of directors for Freddie Mac at the same time that Freddie misreported billions in profits in order to deceive investors. Bill Clinton appointed Emanuel to the board of Freddie Mac in 2000 where he served for 13 months until resigning to run for Congress. It turns out that at the same time, 2000 to 2002, Freddie Mae misreported billions of dollars. In the SEC complaint, the entire board (including Emanuel) was accused by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight of “failed in its duty to follow up on matters brought to its attention.”
Ahhh … but who really cares.
http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html
I can’t wait until Obama and Biden begin using the super expanded powers that Bushco used! Maybe we can start sending Republican Blogheads/dittoheads to prison (without trial of course)!
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WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.
John Podesta, Obama’s transition chief, said Sunday Obama is reviewing President Bush’s executive orders on those issues and others as he works to undo policies enacted during eight years of Republican rule. He said the president can use such orders to move quickly on his own.
“There’s a lot that the president can do using his executive authority without waiting for congressional action, and I think we’ll see the president do that,” Podesta said. “I think that he feels like he has a real mandate for change. We need to get off the course that the Bush administration has set.”
Ahhh … but who really cares(sic). -heckler
When the source is boortz…NOBODY cares.
Executive order #1371:
Reimplementation of the Fairness Doctrine for the PUBLIC airwaves.
NeoCONS removed from the PUBLIC airwaves.
Without bothering to look into the meaning of the words, the sheep will applaude the endless platitudes of Obama, until they are driven over the cliff.
http://disarmament.un.org/cab/poa.html
Peace and Security Through Disarmament
Programme of Action to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons
in All Its Aspects
(UN Document A/CONF.192/15)
Government delegations did not agree to develop legally binding instruments at the international level to prevent or control illicit transfers of small arms and light weapons. Rather, the Programme of Action that was finally adopted encourages governments to undertake a variety of actions to better control small arms and light weapons, primarily at the national level. These include measures related to marking of small arms and light weapons in order to facilitate their tracing, reinforcement of United Nations Security Council arms embargoes, destruction of confiscated, seized or collected small arms and light weapons, stockpile management to prevent theft or loss, and disarmament, demobilization and reintegration of ex-combatants.
http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/57JREP
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 8:44 am | Permalink
Without bothering to look into the meaning of the words, the sheep will applaude the endless platitudes of Bush, until they are driven over the cliff.
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Jimmie boy you made a mistake. Substitute Bush for Obama and you’ve got the truth of what’s happened the last eight (count ‘em) years.
Bush steered America right over the cliff and you Republicans followed him. Did you notice that we just had an election that said your boys suck?
JimJohnson = another blithering idiot, paranoid to the core…
I wish you well in the Asylum!!
Hey Chas! okobserver thinks I’m you. What a dittohead! Isn’t okobserver really ksgrm in a new nic?
At the national level
2. To put in place, where they do not exist, adequate laws, regulations and administrative procedures to exercise effective control over the production of small arms and light weapons within their areas of jurisdiction and over the export, import, transit or retransfer of such weapons, in order to prevent illegal manufacture of and illicit trafficking in small arms and light weapons, or their diversion to unauthorized recipients.
3. To adopt and implement, in the States that have not already done so, the necessary legislative or other measures to establish as criminal offences under their domestic law the illegal manufacture, possession, stockpiling and trade of small arms and light weapons within their areas of jurisdiction, in order to ensure that those engaged in such activities can be prosecuted under appropriate national penal codes.
4. To establish, or designate as appropriate, national coordination agencies or bodies and institutional infrastructure responsible for policy guidance, research and monitoring of efforts to prevent, combat and eradicate the illicit trade in small arms and light weapons in all its aspects. This should include aspects of the illicit manufacture, control, trafficking, circulation, brokering and trade, as well as tracing, finance, collection and destruction of small arms and light weapons.
5. To establish or designate, as appropriate, a national point of contact to act as liaison between States on matters relating to the implementation of the Programme of Action.
6. To identify, where applicable, groups and individuals engaged in the illegal manufacture, trade, stockpiling, transfer, possession, as well as financing for acquisition, of illicit small arms and light weapons, and take action under appropriate national law against such groups and individuals.
http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/rwpattach.nsf/VAP/(CFD7369FCAE9B8F32F341DBE097801FF)~UN+Programme+of+Action.pdf/$file/UN+Programme+of+Action.pdf
Ummmm Heckler — 2000 – 2002 was on BUSH’S Watch… BUSH could have removed Emanuel if he was doing wrong… Where was BUSH??? Dont forget, 9/11 also happened during that time span…. The entire economy was effected by the Attacks…
Something Boortz conveniently leaves out….
ALSO…. Leave it to Boortz to reference an agency that never existed: Freddie Mae!!
LOL — Not even boortz can make up stupid!!
Chas why must you constantly insult others who disagree with you?
You are a troll.
And perhaps Chas, you wouldn’t be attacked so much if you stopped constantly attacking others.
Or maybe you enjoy that.
Likely the only attention you receive in your small world of the WE Blog.
Hey, Regular?
Why the new link?
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And isn’t it interesting that the only people who were worried about the sudden “disappearance” of Regular were Libs?
Your CON pals literally don’t care if you live or die, Regular.
Must give you a nice warm feeling . . .
As for me, I knew you were too cussed mean to die. The devil still has big plans for you, man, which you’re fufilling btw . . .
Mztiki,
Your boy’s turn now. Quit living in the past girl.
surge serge were doing the sirge
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/15/mideast/wall.php
BAGHDAD: An Iraqi soldier was watching over the concrete wall Monday when a .50-caliber round ripped into his head.
Soon after the attack was reported on the tactical radio, two U.S. military advisers were on their way to the scene, laser range finder in hand, to call in a Hellfire missile strike on a sniper position on the far side of a desolate no man’s land.
This is the war over the wall. It is a daily battle of attrition waged over the large concrete barrier that the Americans have been building across Sadr City in the hope of establishing a safe zone in the southern tier of the Shiite enclave.
The formal truce that was announced in the Green Zone with great fanfare Monday has meant nothing here. Shiite militias have been trying to blast gaps in the wall, firing at the U.S. troops who are completing it and maneuvering to pick off the Iraqi soldiers who have been charged with keeping an eye on the partition.
U.S. forces have answered with tank rounds, helicopter rocket strikes and even satellite-guided bombs to try to silence the militia fire. On some stretches, the urban landscape has been transformed as the Americans have leveled buildings militia fighters have used as a perch to mount their attacks.
“The enemy kept coming back to some of the same buildings,” Colonel John Hort, the commander of the 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, said during a recent visit at Thawra II, a joint U.S.-Iraqi outpost that abuts a section of the wall that has been a hotbed of militia resistance. “We ended up having to use some larger ordnance out of our air force to reduce some of the buildings around here.”
Even while U.S. forces deploy reconnaissance drones and satellite-guided rockets, the American strategy in Sadr City is a throwback to a more primitive form of warfare. It depends on concrete – lots of it, which comes in large slabs that are being assembled into an imposing barrier five kilometers, or three miles, long.
The Americans began building the wall a month ago, working east to west. The work started at night but soon extended into the day as U.S. commanders sought to speed up the construction.
Supporters of Moktada al-Sadr, the anti-American cleric, have denounced the wall as a nefarious effort to divide the city. Militia fighters with rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns and small arms have been trying to halt its construction.
Those efforts have failed, and the barrier is now 80 percent complete. But the fighters have blown a few gaps in the wall and, in one instance, appear to have hitched a truck to a damaged slab to yank it down. To make it hard for the Americans to fix the holes, the fighters have continued to seed the strip south of the barrier with explosively formed penetrators, a particularly lethal type of roadside bomb. Some have been hidden in cracks or depressions in the wall itself.
Lieutenant Colonel Michael Pemrick, the deputy commander of the 3rd Brigade Combat Team, and his security detail headed to Sadr City in armored mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles Monday, when the cease-fire was announced. Iraqi soldiers have a tendency to defend static positions, and the colonel wanted to see what the Iraqi soldiers were doing to monitor the wall.
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 8:55 am | Permalink
Chas why must you constantly insult others who disagree with you?
You are a troll.
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Chas is not a troll, he is a Dumb Ass.
Re: Chas
DFTDA
Capn,
I see you belong to the same school as Chas.
Go troll yourself.
Got it, Anti.
DFTDA
Hey Chas, what is the verdict are the payments from peoples paychecks for Social Security a tax or not?
Universal, Binding, Controls on Small Arms.
http://www.armstradetreaty.com/att/howwould.php
An Arms Trade Treaty would be binding
The adoption of international declarations, guidelines, or other voluntary measures are important achievements, and are well worth pursuing. However, experience has shown that in the long run, they do not have the same moral or standard-setting force as do legal instruments. For this reason, such measures must be seen as steps in a longer process, a process that will eventually lead to a binding international agreement.
An Arms Trade Treaty would be universal
Some countries and regions have taken very encouraging steps toward controlling the arms trade and preventing the flow of weapons to abusers. These steps are extremely important and are to be commended. However, because of the international nature of the arms trade, weapons that are cut off from one state can continue to flow from another. For this reason it is crucial that these initiatives be complimented by the development of a global instrument that will ensure that the controls imposed by one state or region are not undermined by another state or region.
The Arms Trade Treaty would be comprehensive
The ATT’s principal objective requires states to authorize arms transfers and to set out core, minimum export criteria for use in this process, thereby bringing states into line with their obligations under international law and preventing the most egregious transfers. But the ATT is also conceived of as a framework agreement, which allows more complex or controversial aspects of the arms trade to be treated in subsequent protocols. The ultimate goal is to establish a comprehensive system that will enable states to effectively control all facets of the international weapons trade.
Dammit, myxt . . . whatever you’re name is.
You made me click your link.
That’s not funny!
Dear Annie,
Your Dems promised in 2006 to get us out of Iraq.
Obama has promised that again in 2008.
Hurry up. Get your party’s ass in gear!
Regular–
It be nice if you’d let the two or three people who know that you’re alive and care about you that you just switched nics and you’re not in the ICU somewhere.
That’s not me.
But for those that care, it’s the decent thing to do . . .
Sorry Cap’n …wishful thinking!
Almost makes me want a meetup where we do invite the cons so we can point at them and laugh. Or so I can show my kid “See? they can LOOK like me and you. But there’s nothing good inside.”
RepubliKansasRegularJimJohnson–
Obama promised an orderly withdrawl over 18 months.
Also, it can’t happen until he takes office.
Try to at least make your lies and slander rational.
Agreed, Mxy–
Bush has never done the right thing while he’s in office.
Why should he start now?
It might destroy his perfect record of greed, corruption, and incompetency.
Blue….Most of them already meetup everyday in that park on Douglas in Old Town by the train overpass.
16 MONTHS Capn.
May 2010.
Syncrhonize your watches.
But there is HOPE!
Dear Annie,
Your Dems promised in 2006 to get us out of Iraq.
Obama has promised that again in 2008.
Hurry up. Get your party’s ass in gear!
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Great Job in Iraq jimmi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUGc7EWz5jo
BTW, JimRegular–
When President Obama improves health care for veterans, he’ll do so for ALL the veterans, even the carping, sniping liars that don’t support him.
Say HUD,
Obama is gonna cut the Social Security tax for those who are not paying Income taxes!
(That’s Obamaspeak for disguising WELFARE)
XXX called it. He’d be back in a week with a new nic.
It must really piss him off that it was XXX of all people who called it early on.
My guess? His old nic got banned.
That’s what prompted the switch from JM the last time. And the time after that, and the time after that, and the time after that….
Hey annie, check your gmail.
Good point, AMoose.
As anybody who’s been paying attention knows, the CONs are gung-ho to support the illegal and immoral invasion and occupation of Iraq . . . just so long as they don’t have to pay for it with their taxes.
Capn,
You actually believe all the siht Obama promised you?
LOL
Hehehe . . . No doubt, KSFarmGrrl!
I hadn’t thought of that.
The editors finally grew a pair and smacked old troll boy down.
Hud
Posted November 10, 2008 at 9:00 am | Permalink
Hey Chas, what is the verdict are the payments from peoples paychecks for Social Security a tax or not?
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As far as I can determine, FICA is an Insurnce…. thus not a “tax” such as on property, or Income…
But, feel free to flame on, if you must…
Why hide behind your name, Hud??? or is it HOD now?? (a dog disease??? Geez!!)
Either way you cut it, I do not PAY into FICA…. Not for my main profession… I only pay into FICA when I work for another business/corporation/employer…. which in 30 years, has not happened yet…
I AM NOT REQUIRED TO PAY FICA… Just as I stated yesterday…
multinic Reguliar same s different day
ReguLIAR–
I believe that Obama’ll do as much as is humanly possible given that he has idiot greedy jerks like you in so many positions of power both inside and outside government opposing him on everything.
The Senate can still filibuster, just like they have since the Congress went Dem.
WAs this on fox nuzs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPYcCf5hoEQ&feature=related
Well, the idiot greedy jerks aren’t exactly like you.
They have real jobs . . .
This is what AMoose’s link shows:
October 2007 Desperate Iraqi refugees, some as young as 12, are turning to prostitution to survive. Banned from working in Syria, prostitution is one of the few options available to them.
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Yeah.
That’s how you know there’s freedom.
Girls are free to be prostitutes. They could have never had such opportunities for “small business” start-ups under a dictator like Saddam.
Your tax dollars at work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFXyJck1dHI
By what authorization, does the Government have the right to collect payments to Social Security?
sound familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZtc5vSoZtc&feature=related
Damn: Syria as a sex tourist destination; well pack my bags!
Here we go again governments spreading our money around without a clue or accounting for it. I bet it’s still the good old boy system at work.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aatlky_cH.tY&refer=worldwide
Time For Ron Paul To Reach Out To Sarah Palin And Reform The GOP
I wonder if this is an orchestrated effort to damage Palin because she supposedly went “rogue” during the campaign and decided she had her own opinions after all. I think this situation is ripe for Ron Paul to reach out to her. She can be an ally in helping to change the GOP from within. It seems the current party leadership is vulnerable. A few Palin and Paul media counter attacks are in order.
If Palin truly did go rogue, then what is stopping her from doing so now as the media promises to continue blaming her for McCain’s loss? In fact, I think the time is ripe for Ron Paul to contact every endorsed candidate in his Liberty PAC and have a public forum (hopefully televised on CSPAN or another outlet) discussing the future of the GOP. They could make attempts to publicly push the Republican Party towards its Old Right roots. I would love to watch a forum including Jeff Flake, Sarah Palin, Walter Jones, Gary Johnson, Mark Sanford, and many of the other Ron Paul endorsed Republicans.
Paul did something similar with his “vote third party” press conference. He ignored some of his own principles to find a common ground. Why not do the same in a concerted effort to publicly and openly steer the GOP back towards the Constitution and limited government?
http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/
heh HEH!
Oh yeah solie, THAT’s what kook Paul needs! Another kook.
Withchypoo Sarah has an interview today with Greta (sold my soul to be a Bratz doll) Sustern. I’m sure Greta has a bag of softballs to lob.
Jimi concealed carry is legal in 48 states, even Grandma has access to a machine gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYXJYQZ3FX0
me thinks thou protest too much
Religions clash in Jeruselum – and not the ones we might have expected:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27639792/?GT1=43001
Monks brawl at Christian holy site in Jerusalem
Israeli police cuff men next to Jesus’ tomb in Church of the Holy Sepulcher
Sol – Palin is already blaming Bush for their loss. Could be interesting.
JJM–
The gov’t collects SS funds with same right it has to take my money through taxes and spend it on something that is utterly immoral right in front of my eyes, something that I utterly condemn and oppose with every fiber of my being–dropping bombs on innocent children in Iraq.
You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
But Great God A’Mighty’s gonna cut you down.
CapN… I am disappointed… I was going to send flowers and a get well card for Regular, and now you tell me he has only switched ‘nics’
Guess Hud/HOD must have disappeared…
Well, no great loss!!
“Guess Hud/HOD must have disappeared…”
I did not know that anyone cared. Nice to know you are keeping track.
CapnAmerica
Posted November 10, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink
JJM–
The gov’t collects SS funds with same right it has to take my money through taxes
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Correct.
Social Security is a TAX.
Chas missed you, Hud.
Income Tax has a Constitutional Amendment — What does Soc. Sec. have??
BTW, it is called INSURANCE
Not true, Hud/HOD… see upthread…
“no great loss” ROFL
Obamaspeak again…
http://action.seiu.org/freechoice/obamavideo/
Obama supports the “Free Choice Act”. It’s neither Free nor involves a Choice.
This Bill takes away the employees right to a confidential vote.
So you are not Free to Choose or Not Choose the Union.
You will be coerced by a group of Union thugs standing over you while you vote.
Yup, Obama Fascism, On The Rise.
Well, surprise, surprise!
The WAPO has admitted bias in the pre-election coverage of the ‘Chosen One’.
If the truth was known about all the mulatto messiah’s associates would he be the president elect?
Probably not.
Jimmie J and HLP = Sore losers
Their Republican Party is in shambles and all they got left are their pitty pots.
WAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH
WHERE in that video is ANY statement that will deny free choice on union, or not???
In fact, just the opposite — If you want a union, you have a RIGHT to a union!!
Hearing problems??? eh, JJ???
YOU may call it insurance Chas.
But it is a Tax.
Again Chas, when you refuse to look beyond the surface, when you refuse to understand what the words mean, your head shall continue to remain full of emptiness.
Read the act or remain ignorant.
Gain knowledge, or remain a fool.
Chas, you really say Social Security is Insurance and not a Tax?
“Income Tax has a Constitutional Amendment — What does Soc. Sec. have??”
Chas, might work better if you read the links.
Social Security taxes are collected under the same provisions as Income Taxes. Title VIII not under Title II (Social Security).
So I guess they fall under the same “Constitutional Amendment”.
Yep… because FICA is an INSURANCE Act….
YOU read it this time, fool….
And Obama is quite clear about the Right to Vote Union…. What are YOU afraid of??
Post something that STATES CLEARLY that workers will not have a VOTE…. Can you DO that??? I doubt it!!
150 bil. for AIG, what’s an insurance company speculating in the credit derivatives markets anyway? Where were the regulators?
“AIG, once the world’s largest insurer by market value, initially got a government bailout in September after counterparties and rating downgrades forced the company to post large amounts of collateral for credit derivatives positions. Last month, $37.8 billion in additional federal funds were put at its disposal under a securities lending agreement.
“You will be coerced by a group of Union thugs standing over you while you vote.” — wefu
Not exactly, the bill as it stands now allows workers to join a union as soon as 50 percent of workers sign a card requesting one. Apparently, there is no actual “voting.” It’s more like a binding petition.
And it’s the inverse of employers intimidating and firing workers trying to organize a union.
I see advantages and disadvantages to both sides. I got no horse in this race.
Right Hud… they are COLLECTED by the IRS… but not the same thing…. dim wit..
One is FICA, the other is INCOME tax… as in Dept. of Revenue….
I consider S.S. an income tax because the money is spent on general govt. obligations, and not earmarked for specifically funding what it was created for.
Which is why the middle class and poor are taxed at a higher percentage of income than the rich.
Now, then, my ORIGINAL point yesterday was that not ALL are required to pay FICA…
And that was all my point was… You screwball fruitcakes took off on your own stupid tangent….
I repeat: NOT ALL ARE REQUIRED TO PAY FICA… I dont really care if you call it taxes or not… It is CALLED Insurance… Google FICA….
“Social Security is a TAX.”
So, the claim that 40% don’t pay any taxes is clearly false. Low income wage-earners pay SS from the first dollar.
If a person signs a petition for a union, that’s pretty much a vote for the union. They aren’t obligated to sign, just cuts out the intimidation factor of the company.
So Chas, to be clear, Social Security is Insurance and not a tax?
(Just need to clarify because your communication is not very clear.)
“Gotcha…”
So Chas, what is the Constitutional Authority for the US Government to be able to collect Insurance Premiums for Social Security?
JJ – you obviously should file suit to get SS overturned. Go for it!
No need to call people names Chas.
Go read the Bill yourself. You can Google.
SEIU just sent me Obama’s video today, not sure why today was so critical to send this.
Well, I have to hand it to your CONs on this one –
Already Obama is sitting down with an unpopular, dangerously aggressive world leader without preconditions.
He’s having lunch with Shrub.
;^)
Hey Vinny, Martin here isn’t sure if he wants to sign da partition to unionize. Would youse come over here and explain to Martin da “benefits” of belonging to a union shop.
A Republican with a brain?!?
Speaking on CNN’s “Late Edition” Sunday, Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger expressed disappointment at Proposition 8’s passage.
“It is unfortunate,” Schwarzenegger said. “But it is not the end because I think this will go back into the courts. … It’s the same as in the 1948 case when blacks and whites were not allowed to marry. This falls into the same category.”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/10/gay.marriage.protests.ap/index.html
Chas if you were, say hypothetically, WRONG about Social Security being Insurance, would you admit you were wrong?
And if you were, say hypothetically, WRONG about the FREE CHOICE Act (that Obama supports) stopping confidential voting for unions, would you admit you were wrong?
That would be twice in one day Chas, and it’s not even lunchtime yet!
beber
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:34 am | Permalink
“You will be coerced by a group of Union thugs standing over you while you vote.” — wefu
Not exactly, the bill as it stands now allows workers to join a union as soon as 50 percent of workers sign a card requesting one. Apparently, there is no actual “voting.” It’s more like a binding petition.
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And there are special rules which require the signatures on the authorization cards to be verified by the Union, thus the “vote” is public.
Next, our General Elections of elected Government representatives will be held in the open, for all to see. In fact, your vote tally’s will be available on:
http://www.YouBetterVoteForObamaOrElse!.com
Yea, if I was wrong… But I’m NOT…. What the hell do you think “I” stands for in FICA, clown???
Did you LISTEN to Obama’s video??? Did you HEAR him say that if you want a Union, you have the right to vote FOR a Union???
Did you hear him say that the VOTE would not be confidential???
PROVE any of those, please??? I dont think you can…. And while youre at it —- STOP FLAMING!!! You look like an idiot!!
bth
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink
“Social Security is a TAX.”
So, the claim that 40% don’t pay any taxes is clearly false. Low income wage-earners pay SS from the first dollar.
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No, Chas says Social Security is Insurance.
So, it must be Insurance. Chas is never wrong.
Oh yea, and if it IS a tax??? Then you and all your buddies have to admit you were lying by claiming that 40% dont pay taxes… See upthread what Ben said!! LOL
“JimJohnson” –
Social Security is social insurance.
Do a little homework.
Chas, what Federal Act created FICA?
Anyone hear about the Supreme Court case Helvering v. Davis?
I think it had something to do with Social Security and FICA.
Say Vaughn, you there?
Chas, calm down.
And how can you accuse ME of flaming?
Have you even bothered to read your OWN posts today?
Get some caffeine for Christ’s sake, before you flip out or something.
“I dont really care if you call it taxes or not… It is CALLED Insurance… Google FICA….”
The collection of money is called “Income Tax on Employees”.
Google Title VII “Social Security”
INCOME TAX ON EMPLOYEES
SECTION 801. In addition to other taxes, there shall be levied, collected, and paid upon the income of every individual a tax equal to the following percentages of the wages (as defined in section 811) received by him after December 31, 1936, with respect to employment (as defined in section 811) after such date:
Chas
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:54 am | Permalink
Oh yea, and if it IS a tax??? Then you and all your buddies have to admit you were lying by claiming that 40% dont pay taxes… See upthread what Ben said!! LOL
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Are you now saying you were wrong, Chas?
Jimmie J and HLP = Sore losers
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hehehe
Not really, good news and bad news.
Good news: My life won’t get much better or much worse because of the election. I don’t depend on the government or expect much from the government.
Bad news, All you Obama sycophants won’t get much from the government either. You won’t get a tax break. The dollar will be devalued from all the new ‘changes’.
I have no expectations. No disapointment in my future.
hehehe
A note to my fellow 65 million voters:
I have good news and bad news.
Good news: Gitmo will be closed.
Bad news:
A third group of detainees — the ones whose cases are most entangled in highly classified information — might have to go before a new court designed especially to handle sensitive national security cases, according to advisers and Democrats involved in the talks. Advisers participating directly in the planning spoke on condition of anonymity because the plans aren’t final.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081110/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_guantanamo
I’m all in favor of taking security precautions to protect classified information, but let’s kill this dumb idea in its infancy. Thanks!
ALERT!! ALERT!!
This just in…..Purple Chicken Coop (Libs) will be having meeting to discuss ‘JimJohnson’….
Check back for further updates.
So they bring the Gitmo terrorists to the US for trials.
So they get released in the US if not guilty?
Where?
Aw shucks Anti, I’m sure they have something better to do.
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink
Aw shucks Anti, I’m sure they have something better to do.
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No. They don’t.
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink
“JimJohnson” –
Social Security is social insurance.
Do a little homework.
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So Chas/Monkey, what is the Constitutional Authority for the US Government to be able to collect Insurance Premiums for Social Security?
I’m so confused. FICA is Insurance so it’s fair that all people pay insurance premiums for FICA.
Social Security is a Tax, but it’s not fair that all people pay a Tax.
Maybe it’s not fair for some people to pay nothing, and others to pay everything?
You spose the Gitmo Angels will be transferred to Leavenworth?
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink
Chas, what Federal Act created FICA?
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You’re the one flaming about it… YOU look it up nimrod!!
I’ll give you a clue…. It wasnt done in the first half of the 20th Century!! LOL
HLP
Posted November 10, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink
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The dollar will be devalued from all the new ‘changes’
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News flash – your guy George W. Bush already took care of the devalued dollar!
I’ll return later to see if Chas admitted that he was WRONG and that Social Security is a TAX.
Course he did then say it was INSURANCE. So I’m not sure which time Chas was LYING.
Did Chas Lie when he said Social Security was a Tax? Or when he said Social Security was insurance?
Or maybe he wasn’t lying, he was just wrong ONCE.
TWICE. Chas was wrong TWICE today already.
He was wrong about the Free Choice Act not eliminating the secret ballot.
TWICE.
Chas
Posted November 10, 2008 at 11:09 am | Permalink
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink
Chas, what Federal Act created FICA?
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You’re the one flaming about it… YOU look it up nimrod!!
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It wasn’t the FICA Act Chas. There is no such act.
Which ACT was it? Hmmmm?
So is Chas the final authority on Social Security being a tax or not?
Maybe the US Supreme Court is slightly more important.
Helvering v. Davis
ksfarmgrrl
Posted November 10, 2008 at 9:15 am | Permalink
XXX called it. He’d be back in a week with a new nic.
It must really piss him off that it was XXX of all people who called it early on.
My guess? His old nic got banned.
That’s what prompted the switch from JM the last time. And the time after that, and the time after that, and the time after that….
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That call was soooooo easy! If it walks (hobbles) like a Regular and quacks (whines) like a Regular, chances are, it’s a regular.
A Prick is a Prick is a Prick is a Prick is a Prick is a Prick is a Prick!
It’s been fun Chas, but I must now leave the blog in your good hands for the rest of the day.
If you didn’t enjoy your morning, then perhaps you might learn to stop constantly insulting others who disagree with you.
If you did enjoy your morning, then please do continue to be the troll who lives to personally attack others.
I’d expect better behavior from someone who claims to be a Christian Pastor. I’m very disappointed in you.
XXX, another troll.
And an ignorant one at that.
I am not Regular. But pretend you are correct anyway, as I don’t want to interrupt your celebration and ruin the only excitement of your day.
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink
XXX, another troll.
And an ignorant one at that.
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Don’t you wish? I’m a long-time poster, well known, and in most cases respected member of the blog community. Troll?
Hardly
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I am not Regular. But pretend you are correct anyway, as I don’t want to interrupt your celebration and ruin the only excitement of your day.
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Then you won’t mind if I point out that Regular is a mindless piece of excretment; a pimple on the rump of society, and a piss-poor example of the trash of humanity.
And the blog a$$hole
mxyzptlk
Posted November 10, 2008 at 8:52 am | Permalink
Hey Chas! okobserver thinks I’m you. What a dittohead! Isn’t okobserver really ksgrm in a new nic?
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Chass funny mxy comes on today to defend ‘himself’ since I told you he should do that. Funny you and him can’t post at the same time. Funny when you get yourself in so much hot water you look like an even bigger fool that usual. Chas goes away and mxy shows up. Funny that you don’t realize what an idiot you really are. Thanks for the comic relief.
Sorry Jim it appears the libs will be taking target practice on you today. Usually it is me so BJ can tell me that they ‘all’ think I am not very smart. Hurts my feeling everytime he says that.
DNFTDA is so appropriate for Chass. I will start using that instead of showing him what an mental midget he really is.
What would the left have been like if they had lost? They really are just mental midgets and bad tempered to boot.
I left yesterday as Linda was telling everyone how smart she is and how dumb Palin is. I tried to think of something Linda has accomplished and don’t remember her even mentioning having a job. I guess being a housewife makes you an expert on the world.
Yep: JJ=JM=REGULAR=REPUBLICON=blog a&&ho*e.
whatever ksgrm whatever…
This just in…..Purple Chicken Coop (Libs) will be having meeting to discuss ‘JimJohnson’….
Check back for further updates.
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That’s not on the agenda so far, but we will be putting together packages for some of the boys in Iraq feel free to donate
Thanks Chass and mxy. It always amazes me that I have had two nics and freely said so and the left thinks they have to remind the blog on a regular basis. While they have multi nic chass who changes nics daily. And apparently mxy who was someone who knew my previous nic and yet doesn’t reveal who he ‘really’ is.
Liberals thy name is hipocrite.
comic relief – keep it up.
Anyone here use LDAP against AD?
Annie the left doesn’t have a good track record when it comes to sending relief pacs. I have worked with three different groups that do send packages to the troops and all have been conservative groups.
Where is a liberal group that gives something away and isn’t standing around with a hand out …waiting…
Should the govt. keep the big three solvent? If they can give 150 bil. to AIG, I think keeping 250,000 people working in the auto industry, and the other 4 mil. jobs it supports, is a worthwhile endeavour.
At least unlike the service industry, they didn’t get into their bad shape by gambling on deriviatives, even though it is exactly the financial system collapse that is causing alot of their hardships.
blah blah blah
Annie got something in your throat? You don’t sound good. The sheep syndrome might become permanent if untreated. In your case it sounds as if the bah, bah, bah sounds have been indoctrinated with the liberal mantra and now is bLah, bLah, bLah.
Get treatment now!
Blah blah blah bitter old lady
JOHNSON….
I am not WRONG Johnson… Social Security, FICA, is listed as an INSURANCE…. it was enacted by legislation in the Roosevelt administration….
The Union thing you keep flaming about does NOT state that voting is anything but confidential… just like your ballot in an election…. Get a BRAIN!!! Idiot!!
Oh yea, remember, Johnson… I DONT PAY INTO FICA…. I CHOSE NOT TO!! LOL!!
Chas, I always wondered whether you were ignorant or stupid.
Now I know you are incapable of doing any research whatsoever, you accept your party’s plattitude sound bytes without digging deeps to find the facts and understand the impact of your party’s plans.
Ignorant yes. Stupid yes.
DNFTDA
And for those who don’t pay into Social Security now, just wait about 10 years.
The Government has been spending Social Security tax revenue for General Spending for years.
When SS is broke in 2019, the Government will have to steal from General Income Tax Revenues to pay back Social Security.
But this only applies to those of you who will be paying income taxes.
Freeloaders will continue to be Freeloaders.
13,000 google hits for the phrase “liberal mantra” –
baaaaaaa, baaaaaa, baaaa.
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 12:18 pm | Permalink
Now I know you are incapable of doing any research whatsoever, you accept your party’s plattitude sound bytes without digging deeps to find the facts and understand the impact of your party’s plans.
Ignorant yes. Stupid yes.
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Like when you believed Iraq had WMDs? Reguliar, you are a pitiful smuck.
Broken down retired phony preachers sitting in the alley, will still get crumbs thrown at them.
As will those “to good to work” types who can’t afford anything, not even insurance for their kids”, they will still get crumbs thrown at them.
And look at them with their pouty wanting mouths, and woe-is-me sad puppy-dog eyes, how pathetic.
Pity them. Do not cut off their crumbs. Cut off their gravy yes, but not their crumbs.
annie_moose
….Posted November 10, 2008 at 11:53 am | Permalink
That’s not on the agenda so far, but we will be putting together packages for some of the boys in Iraq feel free to donate
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I got 25 bucks. Where do I send it?
I love the Google game!!!!!!
Search Results bush is full of shi – Google Search
Results 1 – 10 of about 392,000 for bush full of shi. (0.27 seconds)
That doesn’t include the other boxes I am helping to fill, by the way.
OK,
Look at Chas diguising himself as Mspik again!
How pathetic the lil beggar is! So sad lookin he’s almost cute. Cute enough to get a few extra crumbs today.
LOL.
159,000 hits for phony preacher.
I can play the google game too!
Results 1 – 10 of about 8,780,000 for obama is a terrorist
61,400 hits for Chas The Phony Preacher.
More Google gaming:
Results 1 – 10 of about 1,410,000 for palin is a whore. (0.21 se
conds)
Just shows the stupidity of the google game, that’s about it.
Over 1/3 of the Phony Preacher hits have the name “Chas” in them.
345,000 hits for Obama Is The AntiChrist.
7,100,000 hits for Obama Sucks.
Only 568,000 hits for Bush Sucks.
Obama sucks 14 times more then Bush!
littlejohn,
anniemoose00@gmail.com if you are serious
annie_moose–
Of course I am serious. I’ve had a son do one tour in Iraq, a brother two, and several friends do multiples. I’ve also had friends come back in boxes, and with pieces missing.
Look for an email coming up.
Jim’s writings much more shrill than reg,s sounds more Maxish to me. Plus reg would be a lot less hostile to SS as he earns his living off of assorted government checks.
GM shares hit 62 yr. lows this morning, talk about dead money!
What is so wrong about the Employee Free Choice Act anyway?
Representative George Miller (D-CA), chairman of the House Committee on Education and Labor, stated:
The current process for forming unions is badly broken and so skewed in favor of those who oppose unions, that workers must literally risk their jobs in order to form a union. Although it is illegal, one quarter of employers facing an organizing drive have been found to fire at least one worker who supports a union. In fact, employees who are active union supporters have a one-in-five chance of being fired for legal union activities. Sadly, many employers resort to spying, threats, intimidation, harassment and other illegal activity in their campaigns to oppose unions. The penalty for illegal activity, including firing workers for engaging in protected activity, is so weak that it does little to deter law breakers.
Even when employers don’t break the law, the process itself stacks the deck against union supporters. The employer has all the power; they control the information workers can receive, can force workers to attend anti-union meetings during work hours, can force workers to meet with supervisors who deliver anti-union messages, and can even imply that the business will close if the union wins. Union supporters’ access to employees, on the other hand, is heavily restricted.
Another victim of the bushonomy, Circuit City largest retailer this yr. to file for bankruptcy!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081110/bs_nm/us_circuitcity_12
You just don’t get it do you. If negative comments about Obama outweigh prositives comments about Bush, who are the sheep.
Baaaaa, baaaa, Obama sucks, baaaa. Etc.
And plug the phrase in not the raw words. That returns a meaningless hit count, such as:
“Bush says tax will suck country dry.”
See what I mean. Nah!
baaaaa, baaaa, baaa. And dumb as sheep too.
Spirit would be a case in point, not in removing the union, but in removing older union workers in order to stack the outcome of the buyout offer.
It’s time union activist received some protection.
DHL to cut 9500 jobs, weren’t they Mccain victims?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081110/bs_nm/us_deutschepost_results_9
A few days of okobserver admitting her new nic (NOT!!). ONLY after her hand was forced, after many days of lying. Now she has a different story. There are more of her lies available. The internets store the truth.
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okobserver
Posted June 19, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink
Fleetwood in the short time I have been posting here I have found this blogger Chas to be clueless about most all subjects as he has shown today.
He throws dirt at others and then acts surprised when he is covered in it. Go figure.
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lindainks55
Posted June 19, 2008 at 2:25 pm | Permalink
As pointed out if they truly knew they might have questions. Better to not know?
Anyone else notice the similarities in okobserver and ksgrm? Those two would enjoy conversing and I bet they would agree often. It’s uncanny how the opinions and the way they’re presented are so alike.
Didn’t ksgrm seem to stop posting around the same time okobserver started? Too bad they weren’t here together to meet and greet.
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Predestined
Posted June 19, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink
Linda,
And hasn’t ksgrm told us many times that she lived in that state just south of us?
Not saying I think she is okobserver. Just adding another interesting ksobservation. ;)
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okobserver
Posted June 19, 2008 at 3:29 pm | Permalink
Seems like I might have missed knowing one of the better bloggers. If she was from Ok I know I did. Common sense is taught down here before you go to school.
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cosmos_originally
Posted June 19, 2008 at 4:11 pm | Permalink
okobserver posted June 19, 2008 at 3:47 pm
“My best friend is a retired geologist from Phillips in Bartlesville.”
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ksgrm posted March 4, 2008 at 5:50 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-34/#comment-306960
“My husband best friend through high school was the top geologist for Phillips Oil out of Oklahoma before T Boone bought it up.”
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ksgrm posted December 13, 2007 at 9:32 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/12/climate-change/#comment-143541
“Being from NE Ok we were close to Phillips Oil in Bartlesville and had lots of friends that worked there. Their top geologist lived next door to my husband growing up.”
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The oil-friendly U.S. EIA says OPEC would still be in control of world oil prices, even if drilling was allowed in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
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okobserver
Posted June 19, 2008 at 4:21 pm | Permalink
Cosmos it would appear that me, ksgrm and LLvet have a lot in common right down to knowing geologists at Phillips. Coming from Ne ok that isn’t rare. My sister retired from there and my nephew still works there and your point is what.
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okobserver
Posted June 24, 2008 at 9:44 pm | Permalink
Franklin,
This will be difficult for you to understand but I’ll give it a try.
We don’t share ONE brain. We each have a functioning brain and we think for ourselves. We differ. We are individuals.
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Lindainks if you read back through the leftist posts on this thread you won’t find an iota of difference in what is said with the exception of the things Franklin noted.
As a group you appear to be judgemental, opinionated, condesending, and I could go on but won’t.
I really don’t care what Dobson said. It doesn’t affect my voting at all. I do resent Obama constantly throwing out religion and then saying it is off limits, playing the race card and then saying it is off limits, having his wife give speeches and then saying she is off limits.
He is deluded about the ways of politicians if he truely thinks he will be able to control the process in this way. The election process has started and he can accept it or not.
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lindainks55
Posted June 24, 2008 at 9:47 pm | Permalink
And, as ksgrm just proved — changes NOTHING!
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KansasNative
Posted June 24, 2008 at 9:47 pm | Permalink
Ksgrm…how many nics do you have?
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okobserver
Posted June 24, 2008 at 9:54 pm | Permalink
Linda and KansasNative I posted under one nic for years and grew very tired of the constant personal attacks on me for my conservative beliefs. You are like a gang of vipers when you smell blood. Linda acts so innocent and I could go back and show many personal attacks she has made not only against me but against others.
My goal is to blog with other semi-intelligent bloggers with divertse views without the personal attacks. This venue stopped being fun some time ago. StevenDavis launched a very personal attack the last day I posted as ksgrm and he still tells us he is as pure as the driven snow.
I’m not running from who I am but from who the left on this blog are. This thread is a prime example of the intolerance of the left.
Nuff said.
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“GM shares hit 62 yr. lows this morning, talk about dead money” —
I put in a bottom feeding limit order for Ford today at $1.54. When the gvmt bails these companies out I wonder what happens to the stockholders if there are any left. I may just go after G.M, too. Looks like the payback if the company survives would be huge, and right now the risk is small.
Actually, the relevance of the “google game” depends on if a phrase is quoted, unusual, and pulls up on a large number of sites.
When repetitive ‘talking points’ are distributed to the 101st Fighting Keyboardists, pointing out the wave of regurgitated blather can be quite amusing.
CIVICS 101 3rd GRADE
It’s all about the Ice Cream
The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching third grade in 2008. The presidential election was heating up and some of the children showed an interest. I decided we would have an election for a class president. We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote.
To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members. We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should have. We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot.
The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids. I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of parental support. I had never seen Olivia’s mother. The day arrived when they were to make their speeches Jamie went first. He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better place. He ended by promising to do his very best. Every one applauded. He sat down and Olivia came to the podium. Her speech was concise. She said, “If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream.” She sat down. The class went wild. “Yes! Yes! We want ice cream.”
She surely would say more, but she didn’t. She did not have to. A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream? She wasn’t sure. Would her parents buy it or would the class pay for it. She didn’t know. The class really didn’t care. All they were thinking about was ice cream. Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a land slide.
Every time Barack Obama opens his mouth he offers ice cream, and fifty percent of America reacts like eight and nine year olds. They want ice cream. The other fifty percent know they’re going to have to feed the cow.
Right now I’m picking up a lot of dividend paying stocks which at these prices pay 6 percent. If these countries go under I don’t think anything is worth a damn except maybe real estate and metals, that is, ingots in the basement under the bed. Copper ingots would be a hell of a long term bet, unless a copper asteroid crashes into earth.
And the sheep became the majority and said:
“GIVE US ICE CREAM!”
Every time Barack Obama opens his mouth he offers ice cream
Heh, speak of the devil! Behold the hive-mind in action!:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Every+time+Barack+Obama+opens+his+mouth+he+offers+ice+cream&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
“To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members.” — the wefu.
As usual, picked from RW blogs, and spewed without attribution. 479 hits on the exact phrase above.
baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa.
But rage beat me to it.
But beber pointed it out first. It’s all good!
Oh, so no ice cream will be eaten by Obama voters?
Fat Dumb & Happy Obama Voters Be
outlander posted November 8, 2008 at 8:28 am, ‘Open thread’
Why would the head of Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) misrepresent the facts and data by stating that “warming is taking place at a much faster rate” and show a slide portraying global temperatures climbing?
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From the Sidney Morning Herald
Michael Duffy
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‘Michael Duffy is at it again‘
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/11/michael_duffy_is_at_it_again.php
“It’s only been six months since his previous wrong-headed column claiming that global warming has ended, but Michael Duffy has decided to write another one:
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To quote from the [IPCC's] FAQ:
Note that for shorter recent periods, the slope is greater, indicating accelerated warming.
Pachauri’s statement is correct and it is Duffy who is completely wrong.
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The facts are indeed clear. Let’s check what the Hadley Centre in Britain agrees with:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/hadleycentre/news/warming_goes_on.pdf
“**Anyone who thinks global warming has stopped has their head in the sand.
The evidence is clear — the long-term trend is that global temperatures are rising, and humans are largely responsible for this rise. Global warming does not mean that each year will be warmer than the last. Natural phenomena will mean that some years will be much warmer and others cooler.
You only need to look at 1998 to see a record-breaking warm year caused by a very strong El Niño. In the last couple of years, the underlying warming is partially masked caused by a strong La Niña. Despite this, 11 of the last 13 years were the warmest ever recorded.”
More at links.
outlander’s source is an AGW denier “journalist”.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/counterpoint/presenter.htm
After graduating from Macquarie University in 1978 (BA, English), Duffy worked as a manual labourer and played in punk rock bands in Australia and England.
I think there are going to be a great deal of disappointed people out there at the end of 4 years.
Do they really think that they are going to be better off because the government makes you better off at the end of this 4 years?
Will they have a better job? I doubt it.
Will they have more money? I doubt it. At least not anything more significant than what they are doing for themselves.
Will they have health insurance? Perhaps, but probably not what they think it will be.
Their lives will continue to be exactly what they make of them.
And this will be the case for millions of Americans who somehow think that Obama is going to make them something that they are not willing to do for themselves.
I left yesterday as Linda was telling everyone how smart she is and how dumb Palin is. I tried to think of something Linda has accomplished and don’t remember her even mentioning having a job. I guess being a housewife makes you an expert on the world. — okobserver
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I am a kept woman. It takes a certain skill set which I possess.
I was reading this morning that even with a auto co. bailout, shareholders won’t benefit. There will be massive dilution, from the govt. equity position.
Heh, I swear this factoid came on the radio (NPR) just a moment ago!
From the first convenient Google link:
Mike Dennehy remembers when John McCain held his first town hall meeting Peterborough in 1999 . . . He lured only 17 skeptical voters with the promise of ice cream and political discussion.
A rising tide raises all boats. The little boats have been hit by the bush/repub tidal wave for the past 8 yrs. and many boats have sunk.
Davy Jones locker is getting full.
Repubs understand ice cream.
I can see the fnord! I can see the fnord!
EXCLUSIVE: Agenda disappears from Obama Web site
Over the weekend President-elect Barack Obama scrubbed Change.gov, his transition Web site, deleting most of what had been a massive agenda copied directly from his campaign Web site.
Gone are the promises on how an Obama administration would handle 25 different agenda items – everything from Iraq and immigration to taxes and urban policy – all items laid out on his campaign Web site, http://www.BarackObama.com.
Instead, the official agenda on Change.gov has been boiled down to one vague paragraph proclaiming a plan “to revive the economy, to fix our health care, education, and social security systems, to define a clear path to energy independence, to end the war in Iraq responsibly and finish our mission in Afghanistan, and to work with our allies to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, among many other domestic and foreign policy objectives.”
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/11/exclusive-obama-deletes-agenda-from-transition-web/
Pol Who Peed on Crowd Swears Off Booze
The New Jersey councilman who allegedly urinated on a crowd of concertgoers from the balcony of a Washington, D.C. nightclub swore off booze on Sunday — two days after he was busted for the embarrassing stunt.
Jersey City councilman Steven Lipski has reportedly been arrested for urinating on a crowd of concertgoers from the balcony of a Washington D.C. nightclub.
“I’ve resolved not to touch alcohol again,” two-term Jersey City councilman Steve Lipski told the Fox 5 New York.
He went on to say that the incident was “deeply humiliating, very embarrassing” and troubling,” the Daily News reported.
The 44-year-old Democratic councilman refused to admit to the lewd stunt.
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Pol_Who_Peed_on_Crowd_.html
fnord
Posted November 10, 2008 at 12:49 pm | Permalink
A few days of okobserver admitting her new nic (NOT!!). ONLY after her hand was forced, after many days of lying. Now she has a different story. There are more of her lies available. The internets store the truth.
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Another new left nic throwing darts. Show me where I lied and said I didn’t change my nic. I had my reasons and admitted right away that I was ksgrm. Something Chass, capn, linda, and many other libs can’t say. I was honest and upfront. Who forced my hand. I could have lied, capped everything, thrown in :::???!!! like chas who is multi nicced but I didn’t. Thank you for proving that fnord whoever you are. You guys are so transparent I am surprised your clothes will hand on those limp bodies of yours.
Thanks for the interest. I must have stepped on someone toes. Of course we will never know whose because honesty isn’t a big lib trait.
ANTI
Posted November 10, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink
EXCLUSIVE: Agenda disappears from Obama Web site
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Amazing he isn’t even prez yet but he is already operating true to lib form. Tell the sheep what they want to hear and then pull the feed bag. They’ll still follow. After all they only know one direction. Left, left, left..
fnord
Posted November 10, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink
I left yesterday as Linda was telling everyone how smart she is and how dumb Palin is. I tried to think of something Linda has accomplished and don’t remember her even mentioning having a job. I guess being a housewife makes you an expert on the world. — okobserver
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I am a kept woman. It takes a certain skill set which I possess.
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I worked for over 30 years as an accountant and doubled as a bookkeeper for our family business. So I can only assume you meant that Linda is a kept woman. You really shouldn’t talk about her like that. After she is a ’smart’ kept woman.
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cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink
outlander’s source is an AGW denier “journalist”.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/counterpoint/presenter.htm
After graduating from Macquarie University in 1978 (BA, English), Duffy worked as a manual labourer and played in punk rock bands in Australia and England.
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What’s the matter Cozmoz, has this global cooling spell gotcha cranky?
So, you’d like to see journalists peer reviewed, eh? Hey, let’s extend it to bloggers too!
Actually, your idea is not as stupid as it first sounds. I doubt journalists would go for it though. Writing is the last resort of scoundrels, you know.
Rolling Stone might want to give this guy a shot. Solid background.
Linda is smart enough to not think she’s ready to step in to the v.p. role on day one!
More on “The Surge has Worked”!
Baghdad triple bomb kills 28; teenage girl strikes
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Digg Facebook Newsvine del.icio.us Reddit StumbleUpon Technorati Yahoo! Bookmarks Print By Peter Graff and Ahmed Rasheed Peter Graff And Ahmed Rasheed – Mon Nov 10, 10:49 am ET Play Video Reuters – Obama’s Iraq
Slideshow: Iraq Play Video Video: Bush pledges to work for smooth transition AP Play Video Video: Untimely Timetable? FOX News Reuters – … BAGHDAD (Reuters) – Two car bombs exploded in central Baghdad Monday and a suicide bomber blew himself up among police and civilians who rushed to help the wounded, a triple strike that killed 28 people and wounded 68.
In another attack, in Baquba, capital of volatile northern Diyala province, a female suicide bomber killed five U.S.-backed security patrolmen and wounded 11 other people, the U.S. military said.
Police said the bomber was a girl of 13.
The triple attack in Baghdad, one of the deadliest incidents in Iraq for months, took place in the Kasra neighborhood on the east bank of the Tigris River in a bustling area of tea shops and restaurants near a fine arts institute.
Phantom okay but she is smarter than a woman who is gov of one of our 57 states – oh that number could be wrong – I heard it from our prez elect.
When the left pretends as they did yesterday that 55 million Americans are stupid then they should expect to be hoisted on their own pitards. Like you just did to miss smarter and better than everyone else Linda.
You see I don’t like to see whole classes of people put down to make a few non achievers pat themselves on the back. Just a little hangup of mine.
The Agenda is being honed based on ‘conditions on the ground.’
The news is full of stories of how the lists are being worked on, i.e. the 200 Bush Executive Orders being reviewed for possible reversal. A new ’stimulus package’, and more.
When you see mandatory dashiki’s, you may howl. LOL.
I believe it will be centrist government, focused on the needs of working families as he has said all along.
The description of the Agenda on on http://www.change.gov looks pretty hopeful to me.
The Agenda
President-Elect Obama and Vice President-Elect Biden have developed innovative approaches to challenge the status quo in Washington and to bring about the kind of change America needs.
The Obama Administration has a comprehensive and detailed agenda to carry out its policies. The principal priorities of the Obama Administration include: a plan to revive the economy, to fix our health care, education, and social security systems, to define a clear path to energy independence, to end the war in Iraq responsibly and finish our mission in Afghanistan, and to work with our allies to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, among many other domestic and foreign policy objectives.
Police said the bomber was a girl of 13.
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Religion of peace. They love little girls too. Phantom seems excited though.
Aren’t you proud of what all the American sacrifices have accomplished in Iraq?
Haven’t read yet today how many were blown up in Chicago by suicide bombers, will have to google it so I can get a valid comparison.
“a plan to revive the economy, to fix our health care, education, and social security systems, to define a clear path to energy independence, to end the war in Iraq responsibly and finish our mission in Afghanistan, and to work with our allies to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, among many other domestic and foreign policy objectives.
Sounds like a full plate to me, if he gets even 1/4 of it done in four yrs, it’ll be better for America than bush’s last 8.
If 55 mil. Americans thought that palin was ready to be a v.p., they are the other half.
David the one mentioned that interested me most was the reversal of domestic drilling. Gas prices have gone down and if we let OPEC think we are no longer drilling for our own oil then look to see a spike in gasoline and heating oil. This doesn’t sound like a well thought out plan.
“On drilling, the federal Bureau of Land Management is opening about 360,000 acres of public land in Utah to oil and gas drilling. Bush administration officials argue that the drilling will not harm sensitive areas; environmentalists oppose it.
“They want to have oil and gas drilling in some of the most sensitive, fragile lands in Utah,” Podesta said. “I think that’s a mistake.”
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94BM1O00&show_article=1&cat=0
Phantom compare the death rate in Chicago from violence to the death of Americans in Iraq and Afganistan for the last few months. That is the story of something that Obama has actually had some impact on.
David B what happened to change.gov from last week. I see no details now and only see words. What is the story here?
outlander posted November 10, 2008 at 1:32 pm
What’s the matter Cozmoz, has this global cooling spell gotcha cranky?
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What’s the matter outlandish? Are you unable to read?
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/hadleycentre/news/warming_goes_on.pdf
“**Anyone who thinks global warming has stopped has their head in the sand.
The evidence is clear — the long-term trend is that global temperatures are rising, and humans are largely responsible for this rise. Global warming does not mean that each year will be warmer than the last. Natural phenomena will mean that some years will be much warmer and others cooler.
You only need to look at 1998 to see a record-breaking warm year caused by a very strong El Niño. In the last couple of years, the underlying warming is partially masked caused by a strong La Niña. Despite this, 11 of the last 13 years were the warmest ever recorded.”
Oil prices have gone down because the global economy is in a slump, not because of some slogans about drilling.
Candidate Obama clearly enunciated a support for additional drilling, but also saying punching a few holes in the ground will not be enough.
Do you know the enormity of US oil consumption and the enormity of our waste? And you know the Refuge Oil is a drop in a very large leaky bucket
If you read that Post article, the web site, they reported the site is being revise and all the original text is still on the http://www.barakobama,com Issues tab. Pretty quick to cry foul, I thought…
Brrrrrrrr!!!
I’m sorry Coz. I know you take this stuff really seriously. It just makes you easy to tease. I can’t resist yanking your chain sometimes. My bad.
But to be honest, your posts are a less than truthful attack on someone who appears to be a pretty accomplished journalist. Forgot the other parts of his resume, did you?
Cosmos, relax the sky isn’t falling.
Cosmos in your opinion, will Borat, I mean Barak fix the ‘Warming’ problem?
outlander
Posted November 10, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink
Police said the bomber was a girl of 13.
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Hmmmmmm. . .
Will she get the ‘virgin reward’? Won’t that be a little confusing for her?
Just wondering
outlandish,
Michael Duffy is either completely clueless about AGW science, or he is deliberately trying to deceive people.
I guess that’s why outlandish believes that Duffy “appears to be a pretty accomplished journalist”.
A debunking of Duffy’s May ‘08 column.
‘No, global warming didn’t stop in 2002
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/05/no_global_warming_didnt_stop_i.php
Cosmos: I didn’t say that I agree with you. We are in a cooling period. I know it’s tough. If you are correct, it’ll warm within the next few years. And people can be scared again.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/2008/oct/01_10_2008_DvTempRank_pg.gif
“Phantom compare the death rate in Chicago from violence to the death of Americans in Iraq and Afganistan for the last few months” — the dumb-assed wefu.
No compare the death rate in Chicago with the death rate of civilians and Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. Comparing Chicago murders with American troop deaths is not valid. More valid would be to compare the number of police killed in Chicago with the number of soldiers (American and Iraqi) killed in I and A.
This is like the 10 millionth time the dumbassed wefu have brought this up, and the 10 millionth time I have destroyed the point, making me wonder what is the point?
Other apparently than only American troop deaths count in Iraq.
Last month it was 16. How many cops were killed in I and A?
However I’ll keep on at my leisure.
Oil has gone done more as a direct effect from tire inflation than by chanting a slogan.
One can not point to an increase in domestic production as a causal factor for the decline in oil prices, however one could point to a decrease in oil consumption as a causal factor.
The U.S. can “produce” much more oil with higher energy efficiency than with more drilling.
Increasing U.S. light vehicle mpg by only 0.4 mpg would save about 3.2 BILLION barrels of oil during a 30-year period.
Plus heavy vehicle efficiency, homes and buildings (heating oil), etc.
outlandish,
Your 2:35 pm link is Jan-Oct 2008 temperatures for ONLY the lower 48 states of the U.S. Do you actually believe those 48 states = “global”? That’s outlandish!
Sep ‘08
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/sep/sep08.html
Global Temperature Highlights
“Separately, the global land surface temperature was 54.50 F — this is 0.90 degree F above the 20th century mean of 53.6 degrees F, tying September 2004 as 11th warmest on record.
The global ocean surface temperature of 61.86 F tied September 2001 as seventh warmest on record and was 0.76 degree F above the 20th century mean of 61.1 degrees F.”
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And again. . .
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/hadleycentre/news/warming_goes_on.pdf
“Global warming does not mean that each year will be warmer than the last. Natural phenomena will mean that some years will be much warmer and others cooler.“
“Global warming does not mean that each year will be warmer than the last. Natural phenomena will mean that some years will be much warmer and others cooler.“
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How about 10 cooler years, does this fit into ‘Global Warming’?
Why do CO2 levels continue to rise and temperatures continue to fall?
Cosmos, will Borat Obama along with Algore solve Global Cooling, I mean Warming for us?
http://www.realclimate.org/images/giss-7yr.jpg
‘Uncertainty, noise and the art of model-data comparison’
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/01/uncertainty-noise-and-the-art-of-model-data-comparison
beber
Posted November 10, 2008 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
“Phantom compare the death rate in Chicago from violence to the death of Americans in Iraq and Afganistan for the last few months” — the dumb-assed wefu.
No compare the death rate in Chicago with the death rate of civilians and Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. Comparing Chicago murders with American troop deaths is not valid. More valid would be to compare the number of police killed in Chicago with the number of soldiers (American and Iraqi) killed in I and A.
This is like the 10 millionth time the dumbassed wefu have brought this up, and the 10 millionth time I have destroyed the point, making me wonder what is the point?
Other apparently than only American troop deaths count in Iraq.
Last month it was 16. How many cops were killed in I and A?
However I’ll keep on at my leisure.
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After you pat yourself on the back then really look at what you posted. So you are saying when ‘The One’ pulls the troops from Iraq they will quit killing each other if they so desire. What about the hundred of thousand killed under Saddam and found in community graves? The Americans have saved many Iraqi lifes. The left doesn’t want to admit this but the Iriqis do. Ask the men who have served there what is happening. It isn’t the lefts idea of suppression the libs are clinging to along with their pea shooters and the latest book of Thomas Frank.
Planning under way for Obama holiday
The Capital-Journal
Published Sunday, November 09, 2008
Plans are being made to promote a national holiday for Barack Obama, who will become the nation’s 44th president when he takes the oath of office Jan. 20.
“Yes We Can” planning rallies will be at 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. every Tuesday at the downtown McDonald’s restaurant, 1100 Kansas Ave., until Jan. 13. The goals are to secure a national holiday in Obama’s honor, to organize celebrations around his inauguration and to celebrate the 200th birthday of President Abraham Lincoln, who was born on Feb. 12 1809.
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My God has half of this nation gone completely bonkers. The man was elected to the job of president. He isn’t a god although many try to make him one.
I’m beginning to think that Linda had a point yesterday only she had the smart people on the wrong side. 55 million people weren’t taken in by this politician.
A great many goats will be sacrificed in the name of ‘The One’, Barak Obama on Jan. 20th. May the streets run red in his honor…
I’ll bet Linda and Cosmos have their goats picked out already.
BlueJay will offer up his neighbor’s son.
Inloved this comment on the story I just posted. Couldn’t resist sharing it with the blog.
‘Are you freakin kidding me? A national holiday for a guy who hasn’t even shown if he can lead? He may be the president elect, but he hasn’t even proven that he has what it takes to lead this country.
Talk about some Kool-Aid drinkers!
Obama cake? What are ya going to do? Eat his head? This is ridiculous and in no way is it news worthy.
Let’s see if the guy can lead before we even entertain the thought of honoring him alongside such great presidents as Washington and Lincoln.
I suggest you drop the kool-aid, have someone slap you in the face, and take a reality check.’
Plans are being made to promote a national holiday for Barack Obama, who will become the nation’s 44th president when he takes the oath of office Jan. 20.
Well, germie, thanks again for proving once again that you have no integrity.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Plans+are+being+made+to+promote+a+national+holiday+for+Barack+Obama%2C+who+will+become+the+nation%E2%80%99s+44th+president+when+he+takes+the+oath+of+office+Jan.+20.&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
Just customize a few things (like the location of the McDonald’s) and you’re good to go!
Why let the truth get in the way of some good propaganda?
Anti I now know why our state has stayed conservative. The libs in this state are completely delusional. This came from our own state capital.
We should check and see how many don’t blog on the day of the big obamanation celebration.
http://special.cjonline.com/stories/110908/loc_353922770.shtml
Oh, wait. Amazingly, it does look Topeka-specific.
Rage I don’t write them I just read them. As I said this came out of our own state capital. Where is your integrity. See the link above. Rage you might want to plan a day trip back to Kansas. I doubt if they have one of these meetings planned in Arizona.
Nut jobs….jeez!
http://special.cjonline.com/stories/110908/loc_353922770.shtml
Anyone know who “Sonny Scroggins” is?
Well, germie, thanks again for proving once again that you have no integrity.
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Rage you are one of the reasons I changed my nic. That and the fact that Chass keeps calling me grandma. The libs on this blog are so predictable.
Would that be I wrong and you were right and I shouldn’t have made that baseless allegation?
” So you are saying when ‘The One’ pulls the troops from Iraq they will quit killing each other if they so desire” — the wefu.
No, and nothing I posted could be interpreted so. What I said is comparing murders in Chicago with American deaths in Iraq is meaningless. I can help you with your cognative disorder
The libs in this state are completely delusional.
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Heh, you should see the Libs in NYC- and they keep voting for them.
How is NYC fairing? NOT TO GOOD! TAX TAX TAX!
It doesn’t look like “Bias Busters” even has a website. . ..
Makes you wonder if the owner of this McDonalds knows what his manager is up to.
Anyone know who “Sonny Scroggins” is?
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Sounds like a porn star.
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 12:28 pm | Permalink
Over 1/3 of the Phony Preacher hits have the name “Chas” in them.
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Maybe thats because there are so many A$$Holes on this Blog, that dont have a clue… And, oh, if you are so “new” here, how would you know?? and WHY would you even be bothered to look it up?? Hmmmmm????
Guess youre not as “new” as you want folks to think!! But, thats ok, some of us knew you werent new anyway!!
Anybody do any Google hits for JimJohnson???
oh, then maybe JimJohnson is PHONY too…
Cosmos, your own link indicates that a 6 years trend line is for flat temps and since it was written earlier, it’s now trending cooler. And last year definitely was. Despite application of Dr. Hanson’s magic formula.
As much as you hate it. GW momentum is s l o w i n g.
Beber are you a licensed cognative disorder therapist? Because I have several candidates on this blog that need your help. I wouldn’t be one of them. Call Chass. He has a real problem with thought and capital finger control. Linda has delusions of grandeur. BJ has more problems than even a licensed therapist could handle.
As for your thought process. Try reading what I posted slowly. Saddam was killing 10s of thousands of Iraqis before we took him out. That would make the death rate several thousand percent lower than it was before the troops went in. Now compare the death rate in Chicago before and after Obama became a community organizer.
Get the picture.
For the record, I think the idea of an “Obama holiday” is silly, and will bet cold hard cash it is not seriously considered by anyone who could actually make it happen. In fact, it’s unlikely to even get any interest beyond this little group in Topeka.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Obama+holiday&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
Yawn. . .
Sounds like a porn star.
Actually, it does sound like a porn star!
Oh well great this story just went national. I am so tired of the libs in this state making a laughing stock out of our state. They really are idiots with a real disconnect from reality.
Rage once again you were wrong. I just read it has gone national. What a laughing stock Kansas is going to be. Good think I am from Oklahoma.
Good thing too.
More valid would be to compare the number of police killed in Chicago with the number of soldiers (American and Iraqi) killed in I and A. [beber]
Last month it was 16. How many cops were killed in I and A? [granny/okie]
I just love it when Granny/Okie cant READ plain English….
LOOK…. beber was asking for a comparison of the number of cops killed in Chicago, with the number of SOLDIERS killed in Iraq and Afghanistan….
Woman, CAN YOU READ THAT???
If you can, then your stupid statement makes NO SENSE whatever!! “How many cops were killed in I and A.”
I mean, stupid is as stupid posts… Woman beber didnt say ONE word about cops being killed in I and A!!! How DUMB do you get???
And oh, BTW, I will promise not to call you Granny anymore, when and IF, you cease to keep saying I am posting with more than ONE nic….
Deal???
Looks like a Martin Eisendtadt (sp?) has come forward as the ‘jerk’ who outed Pain’s geograpy ignorance, news said he was mccain’s foreign policy expert aide.
Bush now has lower favorable rating than Truman, who has held the record disapproval rating up until 43.
omg, how old are you people? playing the nanner nanner game of number of google hits for ‘bush sucks’ or ‘obama terrorist’?
All of this is pathetic and disgusting. It used to be almost entertaining to read some of this claptrap, but this idiocy is beyond even the most immature posters here..or so I thought.
Any adults left online?
I never thought I’d quote WorldNut Daily, but there ya go:
Scroggins sought to answer his critics by telling WND the holiday isn’t so much to honor Obama, but to honor the progress in racial relations Americans have made by electing a black president.
“It has more to do with ‘We the People’ of America,” Scroggins said. “It’s America’s day. It’s more for us, as opposed for Obama. I like the fact that he’s white and he’s black and he can move race relations further.”
Lamont Lassiter, the general manager of the McDonald’s hosting the Tuesday gatherings, told WND the holiday likely wouldn’t be established until after Obama completes his presidency.
“We want to try to honor Barack Obama becoming the first African-American president of the United States,” said Lassiter, “and not only that, but also what he’s trying to accomplish.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80584
We could re-name King Day as Obama Day, and memorial day as bush day (mourning the day bush came into office!)
Chass I don’t make deals with proven liars. BTW I just reccommended you to someone who said he was a cognitive thought therapist that he give you a call.
It is a real stretch Chas when you talk to me about what I read and my comprehension skills.
I propose we put Obama’s face on Mount Rushmore!
Raptor I don’t know for certain but it could be the rain. I get depressed on rainy day but some people get euphoric. I think the euphorics are playing the nanner game.
Gee, a fellow can’t even have a stroke without being accused of being other posters. :)
Still recovering, no rush to get back to here…
Glad to see ya back Regular!
Take care of yourself and good luck!
I just read it has gone national.
Source?
From what I’ve seen, beyond the Capital-Journal and WND, the only publicity is coming, ironically, from right-wing websites.
http://search.cnn.com/search.jsp?query=Obama%20holiday&type=web&sortBy=date&intl=false
And now, some sanity from the KC Star:
Calm down, folks. The ringleader of this quixotic crusade is Sonny Scroggins, a prolific activist who has marched in opposition to U.S. investments in Sudan, spoken out against gansta rap, and, recently, led a two-man rally for the right of Topeka School District employees to wear political T-shirts to work.
The idealistic Scroggins is a man of many causes. Most of them come to naught. It’s not as though the mayor or city council is promoting the holiday.
For the record, I oppose naming anything after a public figure while said person is still horizontal. You never know what trouble somebody will get into, even an icon.
http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2778
Reggie, for what it’s worth, I’m not sure who “Jim Johnson” is, but I don’t think it’s you.
Take care of yourself.
An abortionist quack sent an email to Operation Rescue threatening violent attacks against pro-lifers. The FBI now has a copy, for whatever that’s worth to pro-lifers, often left to fend off assaults, robberies, vandalism, and intimidations on their own, with nearly complete disregard and indifference by police, prosecutors, and courts.
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Planned Parenthood is telling mothers contracting a late-term abortion that their baby might be born alive during the abortion, but if so, would soon die anyway without any medical treatment.
This is a violation of the federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act.
Stop all taxpayer funding of criminal, racist Planned Parenthood.
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Revealing that his highest priority is abortion mill profits, and not the economy, as you were previously lied to, Obamanation’s staff confirmed that immediately upon inauguration, following the footsteps of pro-abortion fanatic William the Slick, Obamanation will issue executive orders to overturn the Mexico City policy, resulting in taxpayer funding of forced abortions overseas as well as in the USofA, and to overturn Bush’s policy against federal funding of useless, unethical embryonic stem cell research, likely causing the immoral squandering of your precious tax money and subtracting from the annual treatments and cures produced by ethical adult stem cell research. Likely, Obamanation will also do what he can in executive orders to stop enforcement of informed consent in abortion mills, in order to increase profits through more and faster abortions. This is different from his announced intended first act, though, which he said would be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act, requiring passage in Congress first, to strike down all state pro-life restrictions on abortions, especially his favorites, partial-birth and live-birth abortions. (Favorites because of the huge profits involved.)
As for federal judges, Obamanation has the leftist, activist, baby-hating lawyer Harold Hongju Koh on his short list.
America has indeed voted for the ruthless, brutal, senseless exploitation of desperate mothers and the murder of their babies, over one third of them black, by some 53%. Even 52% of Catholics voted for Obamanation’s abortion agenda, disgracing their religion, largely because Hispanics distrusted McCain for backing down on amnesty for illegal aliens, although their bishops instructed them that there can be no justification for voting for 50 million more mangled, dismembered, poisoned, and beheaded babies.
Meanwhile, appropriately enough, original 1941 blueprints of the Auschwitz death camp blueprints have surfaced in a Berlin apartment.
Meanwhile, now that campaign promises are no longer important, Obamanation has erased his agenda from his web page.
The real agenda will now quickly unfold.
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About noon on November 3, a Michigan couple leaving the Wichita parking lot of notorious, criminal abortionist quack Tiller, in town for a 3-day post-viable abortion at 26-weeks gestation, informed pro-lifers that they were extremely disappointed in Tiller’s services and abortion mill. They said it was a disorganized mess, they the employees were rude and unprofessional, and that they had been illegally urged to sign off on a legal 19-week abortion while being charged the higher price for an illegal post-viable 26-week abortion. They had made the difficult trip to Wichita, however, because the only abortionist quack likely to commit their abortion in Michigan was the notorious Alberto Hodari, known for botched abortions, illegal forced abortions, and other crimes, such as dumping dead babies, medical records, and medical waste in garbage bins.
Pro-lifers convinced the couple to discard the notion of the contract killing of their viable baby.
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About 12:45 pm on November 5, one of abortionist quack Tiller’s armed security guards came outside of Tiller’s property onto the public sidewalk and got into an argument with a teenage boy whose older sibling had been killed in the abortion mill, most likely the cause of his mother’s suicide 6 years later. Soon, the security guard, who had unsnapped his pistol holster, shoved the much smaller boy, and pro-lifers called police, who took statements and evidence of the assault.
As usual with assaults on pro-lifers, no charges are expected against the guard.
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Hollywood savaged Gov. Palin. Journalists mocked her. Liberal blogs slimed her. Opponents cursed her, Photoshopped her, hacked her e-mail, hanged her in effigy, called her bigot, Bible-thumper and bimbo, and attacked her husband and children. Back-stabbing baby-hating RINOs belittled her. The public was eventually gullibly influenced by the repetition of the vitriolic stream, which hasn’t let up on her yet.
They did it mostly because she spoke out on and stood on and lived out her pro-life beliefs. None but right-wing evangelical pro-lifers could tolerate this to any degree, treating Gov. Palin as today’s genuine inspiration for the conservative base of the Republican Party.
But the left and the leftist media will all tell you – abortion wasn’t important in this election.
The scary thing is, every other pro-life conservative candidate knows what to expect in a federal election, if he opens his mouth on pro-life issues.
Scarier still, this threat probably works.
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Tamara Sue Kostman, 22, of Troy, KS was sentenced to 15 1/2 years by District Judge John Weingart Friday for the second-degree murder of her newborn son in June, 2007, reduced from a first-degree murder charge filed by disgraced AG Morrison. She pleaded no contest to the charge that she suffocated the infant, Dillon Kostman Trant, by stuffing a washcloth into his mouth, having concealed her pregnancy and the birth. Police later found the tiny body hidden among some clothes in the apartment she shared with the baby’s father, Derek Trant, the washcloth still crammed in the boy’s mouth.
Tamara Kostman said, on her own behalf at sentencing, that she was a good person with self-esteem problems.
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Stephanie Collins, 26, of Fountain, FL suffocated her newborn son with a pillow on November 1, after giving birth to him secretly, and she then threw his body in the garbage. The tiny body was discovered by Collins’ grandmother. According to the Bay County sheriff’s department, the woman had a previous abortion and did not want to commit another, and had hid her pregnancy from her family. Deputies told reporters that she knew about Florida’s Safe Baby Act of 2000, which would have let her legally abandon an unharmed newborn at a hospital or fire station, but that she had ultimately decided to “stick with her original plan.” Collins will be charged with murder.
I propose we put Obama’s face on Mount Rushmore!
Nah, let’s bulldoze Rushmore, and put up a lifesize replica of the Sphinx, with Obama’s head!
…prolific activist…
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Told ya, porn star! :)
I propose we leave Rushmore the way it is.
I propose we leave Rushmore the way it is.
Party pooper!
Wow, you’re not going to believe this! Did you know that someone actually proposed knocking down Mt. Rushmore and creating a life-size “Sphinx” of Obama! Really! See for yourself!
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-1110/#comment-466228
The Black Hills need a Black Face!
Well Rage I do believe it. I have met several people who think that same thing. They think they are sane and rational. I will have to break it to them someday.
I just don’t know why this has to come out of Kansas. It is bad enough when you have to tell people where you are from and now it will be even worse.
I have to go to Iowa in two weeks. I just hope this has blown over by then.
Hope your recovery is quick and complete, Regular.
“Thirty-five years ago this past week, President Richard Nixon created Project Independence, which set a national goal that, within seven years, the United States would develop “the potential to meet our own energy needs without depending on any foreign energy sources.” His statement came three weeks after the Arab oil embargo had sent prices skyrocketing and woke America to the dangers of dependence on foreign oil. And — not coincidentally — it came only three years after United States domestic oil production had peaked.”
Guess who is saying that Richard Nixon knew about our energy problem and had plans to fix it?
There is a space for another President at Mt Rushmore to the right of Lincoln. It is obvious when you see the monument live that there is indeed another outcrop for another President’s visage.
I think that was reserved for Ronald Reagan.
Obama has done nothing a President and already you kooks want his face on Rushmore. Unbelievable!
Obama has done nothing as President and already you kooks want his face on Rushmore. Unbelievable!
No takers on my challenge about Richard Nixon. Well the answer is….
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/opinion/09gore.html?_r=3&hp=&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
BTW I have posted several stories today that weren’t widely distributed. They came from one source. The Drudge Report. Sources were the Washington Post, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, our own Topeka Capital Journal and many more I didn’t mention. His site is like a one stop shop where you can get fine wine and a great cigar. See how prejudices work.
McCain’s surprise pick for veep | WE Blog500 comments from 10 people, counting 250 from Max Grobnik isn’t indicitive of much …… lindainks55 on Open thread 11/2; JimJohnson on Open thread 11/2 …
blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/08/mccains-surprise-pick-for-veep/ – 722k -
okobserver posted this first. And the liberals think the conservatives are crazy in Kansas.
Planning under way for Obama holiday
The Capital-Journal
Published Sunday, November 09, 2008
Plans are being made to promote a national holiday for Barack Obama, who will become the nation’s 44th president when he takes the oath of office Jan. 20.
“Yes We Can” planning rallies will be at 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. every Tuesday at the downtown McDonald’s restaurant, 1100 Kansas Ave., until Jan. 13. The goals are to secure a national holiday in Obama’s honor, to organize celebrations around his inauguration and to celebrate the 200th birthday of President Abraham Lincoln, who was born on Feb. 12 1809.
http://special.cjonline.com/stories/110908/loc_353922770.shtml
mx..you are so far wrong it is hysterical. There is NO ROOM for any more faces of anyone on Mt. Rushmore. Go there sometime and listen to the presentaion by the US Park Services and learn something before shooing off your ignorant mouth for a change.
outlander – agreed. Silly.
“okobserver” –
We all know what Drudge is. His choice of stories belies his conservative bent.
But most citations made to more progressive blogs also reference original reporting from mainstream sources. I trust you’ll dismiss any and all CONs who sneer when someone posts a link to dailykos or Huffington Post.
And one of my early delightful memories of WE Blog was when one of the CONs fired back,
“Everyone knows tinyurl is a liberal source!”
“Regular” — Glad you got prompt medical attention the other day. What? Did Obama’s electoral landslide stroke you out?
And the rest of you –
Please consider laying off the constant sock-puppet posts and accusations thereof. A long time ago I made it my personal policy to address all — friend and foe alike — by the nym they choose to post by.
I don’t car if “Regular” is “boxlock” or “JimJohnson” is really “Franklin” or “Chas” is “ksfarmgrrl” or what.
Things would get
a lotsomewhat less personal if sock-puppets were simply not considered a relevant reason to post.typo
“shooting”
I can spell, I can, I can…
I’ve been there and there is another face within the mountain…being a Republican, you’re too stupid to notice.
http://ro3011.k12.sd.us/Misc/rushmore.htm
For verification, educate yourself and read:
My Father’s Mountain-The Story of Mt. Rushmore and How It Was Carved by Lincoln Borglum..the son of Gutzum Borgland and the man who finished the project to what we see today.
Casual observation from the deck might delude people into thinking there is room for another face, but the artists who have been up there say there is no more usable granite.
So, give up your dreams of having THE ONE added.
Gee, a fellow can’t even have a stroke without being accused of being other posters. :)
did it happen last tuesday?
mx..you are really a moron. That webstie has no attribution, no facts, and nothing to back up your ridiculous claim.
Go there sometime and listen to the rangers. Heard the voice of Lincoln saying there is no more usuable granite. Believe some facts for a change.
mx..you are really a moron. That webstie has no attribution, no facts, and nothing to back up your ridiculous claim.
Go there sometime and listen to the rangers. Heard the voice of Lincoln saying there is no more usuable granite. Believe some facts for a change.
mx..you are really a moron. That webstie has no attribution, no facts, and nothing to back up your ridiculous claim.
Go there sometime and listen to the rangers. Heard the voice of Lincoln saying there is no more usuable granite. Believe some facts for a change.
mx..you are really a moron. That webstie has no attribution, no facts, and nothing to back up your ridiculous claim.
Go there sometime and listen to the rangers. Heard the voice of Lincoln saying there is no more usuable granite. Believe some facts for a change.
The original “add a face to Rushmore” was floated by crazy Republic Party advocates who went on a frenzy of naming anything that was nailed down after Ronald Reagan. (we barely slipped by without having Pepsi sell “Diet Gipper Cola.”)
But the ultimate reason there won’t be another bust added to the monument is there’s no one as crazy as Gutzon Borglum (and his son Lincoln) to even attempt such a project.
damn….not srue what happened for one post to show up 3 times. That was not intentional.
Monkey was the algore story I just posted a conservative story? Of course not. You are so blinded by your prejuidices that you can’t see your hand in front of your face.
Look before you leap!
Really messes with your biggoted mind to put a Black man on Mt Rushmore when Reagan didn’t cut it.
Oh well…flame on rapetor.
Monkey do you know the difference between dailykos and huffington and drudge. Drudge doesn’t write opinion pieces. What his page does is bring the news of the day together. From what ever source. That is why it is the most popular page in the news internet. It isn’t lib or conservative as you would know if you really looked. Man open your eyes and educate yourself before you put yourself out there as an expert on anything.
mx…why are you so stupid? It has nothing to do with politics but with available granite, of which there is none for another face. And the crap of there being a 5th face is just that…crap.
I know. I worked there one summer with the Park Service …summer of 1973.
Rap I think he has been hanging out with Chas and ignorance is contagious.
fnord
Posted November 10, 2008 at 12:49 pm | Permalink
A few days of okobserver admitting her new nic (NOT!!). ONLY after her hand was forced, after many days of lying. Now she has a different story. There are more of her lies available. The internets store the truth.
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In order to lie wouldn’t you have to be able to discern, at least somewhat, the truth?
Grm fails that test.
retarded granny throws her 2 cents in as usual.
The long held rumor of a 5th face can be tracked back to the initial location of Thomas Jefferson. Initially, the carving of Jefferson was to the left of Washington (as we face the mountain, it would be on Washington’s right from “his” perspective).
(Many people initially thought the face was of Martha Washington)
After a good start, they found there was not enough suitable granite to finish, and the partial bust of Jefferson was dynamited off the mountain, and started again on the other side of Washington.
Steve I believe you were a major reason I left for several weeks and eventually changed my nic. You excoriated me for something unkind you thought I said to someone and I answered back that the little trick you and BJ pulled on Regular was beneath contempt so don’t give me any of your holier than thou garbage.
Pot calling the kettle black. When have you ever admitted what a low down dirty trick that was and how many times have you and BJ called Reg names after that luncheon.
I don’t have any delusions about who I am. I say cutting things at times and call them as I see them. You should try honesty for a while.
Black Hills granite is not as monolithic as some had hoped. Thus the problems with carving.
Unlike Stone Mountain in Georgia. Now THAT is a hunk of granite!
mxy are you sad because I didn’t fall for the chass lie? Poor loser. Talk to steve. He can help you out or there was someone earlier that was cognitive reading or learning therapist. Maybe you can look them up. I have a meeting to go to and won’t be able to stay tonight.
The summer I was there, I heard all kinds of stupid remarks like mx said. One time I was asked “what do they do with them in the winter?” A common question was about the ’secret cave’ behind Lincoln, or the “secret” access to a cave via Lincolns’ eye.
There is a small cave (behind Roosevelt, not Lincoln) that was initially planned to be a Hall fo Records, but it was never finished. Gutzon died before it could be completed, and his son, Lincoln, could not raise the funds necessary.
okobserver
Posted November 10, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink
Chass I don’t make deals with proven liars. BTW I just reccommended you to someone who said he was a cognitive thought therapist that he give you a call.
It is a real stretch Chas when you talk to me about what I read and my comprehension skills.
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That’s hilarious!! First, you dont have my phone number… And second, why dont you just keep on harassing me every day here on the Blog… You WILL be sorry!!
I guarantee!! I have told you REPEATEDLY I am none of the nics you keep on claiming I am…. I am SURE your reading comprehension level is somewhere close to non-existent!!
But, do keep it up… You will see…
Very true, bth. And one connection the two have is that Borglum did work on Stone Mountain…but left in disagreement with the organizers and his preliminary work was blasted off the mountain.
I think the Obama day thing is silly, too.
But I believe that such unwarranted enthusiasm comes from the electorate really wanting someone, maybe even anyone, in the White House besides Bush. His presidency has been quite the failure.
Granny is working on the same fate as Reguliar. Good luck with that okie and godspeed!
Regular… good to see you are up and about…
I agree about the Obama Day being silly, and that it won’t go anywhere.
I’m impressed with the seriousness Obama is giving this transition period. It seems he is hitting the ground running. Our challenges are many and a POTUS who does more than take the first several weeks off to cut brush is encouraging!
Obama Day is somebody’s sick idea of a joke, if I read that right….
Shoot, folks, we dont even have a JFK Day and HE was assasinated!!
Gone With The Wind
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, November 07, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Environment: From California to Missouri, four of five environmental initiatives lost at the ballot box. Voters are clearly still not ready for exorbitant costs and excessive regulation without clear benefits.
President-elect Obama may have felt “a righteous wind” at his back during the campaign, but it did not translate into environmental victories at the ballot box, where one green initiative after another failed for a variety of reasons.
California voters shot down both clean-energy propositions on the ballot. Proposition 7 would have required utilities to generate 40% of their power from renewable energy by 2020 and 50% by 2025. It lost 65% to 35%.
Proposition 10 would have created $5 billion in general obligation bonds to help consumers and others purchase certain high-fuel-economy or alternative-fuel vehicles, and to fund research into alternative fuel technology. It failed 60% to 40%.
Even in San Francisco, the capital of liberalism and greenie fervor, voters rejected Proposition H, which would have mandated a rapid increase in the city’s use of clean energy to achieve its goal of being 100% renewable by 2040. It would also have meant taking over the city’s private electric company.
Obama took the former red state of Colorado, which also elected environmentalist Senate candidate Mark Udall over oil executive Bob Shaffer. Yet Coloradans struck down a measure to pay for conservation and clean energy by increasing taxes on oil companies.
Only in Missouri did green energy score a victory. There, Proposition C mandated a 15% increase in renewable energy by 2021 with slow and steady yearly increases that energy companies felt they could phase in without disruption and with which voters felt more comfortable.
The mantra is that oil and car companies are blocking the increased use of renewable energy. The truth is that consumers, through their choices and their votes, are slowing the stampede. They worry about the cost in tough economic times and whether such efforts are worth it based on dubious evidence of global warming. Energy independence is one thing, but going bankrupt to achieve it is quite another.
When gasoline prices were over $4 a gallon, the chant “drill baby drill” grew loud enough that Democrats were forced to back off renewing a ban on offshore drilling. Now in complete control, they can block offshore drilling, nuclear power and shale oil in their Ahab-like pursuit of alternative energy.
Texas consumers are finding out how expensive the pursuit of alternative energy can be. Their state generates more electricity from wind than any other, and people like oil legend T. Boone Pickens want to generate more.
A just published study by the Texas Public Policy Foundation, “Texas Wind Energy: Past, Present and Future,” says that to achieve even modest amounts of wind energy would cost rate payers and taxpayers at least $60 billion through 2025. That includes transmission costs, production costs, subsidies, tax breaks, economic disruption costs and grid-management costs.
Because of the intermittent nature of wind, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas uses a figure of only 8.7% of wind power’s installed capacity when determining available power during peak periods.
On cloudy and windless days, solar and wind are useless and require conventional power sources as backup. Output is not steady and cannot be increased on demand. You can’t make the sun shine brighter or the wind blow harder during peak periods.
A Feb. 27 Reuters story illustrated the point. Headlined “Loss Of Wind Causes Texas Power Grid Emergency,” it told of an electric grid operator forced to curtail 1,100 megawatts of power to customers on just 10 minutes’ notice. The wind simply stopped blowing.
Wind turbines generally operate at only 20% efficiency compared with 85% for coal, gas and nuclear plants. A single 1,000-megawatt nuclear power plant would generate more dependable power than 2,800 1.5-megawatt, occasionally operating wind turbines sitting on 175,000 acres.
Nuclear power is clean energy, and you wouldn’t have to wait for a sunny or windy day to plug in your electric car.
I am so very sorry to learn that decidedly NOT “Regular” still gimps along amongst us.
Oh and okcrone?
Steven had NOTHING to do with what went down. Nathan insinuated himself on the meeting uninvited. Steven and I felt that having “Regular” who has threatened to kill me AND Nathan who makes jokes about using guns to intimidate people at the same place was not a good idea. The idea to get a look at “Regular” was mine. IF he ever comes shuffling up my walk, I want to see him coming.
Actually, I’ve seen him twice since. Not intentionally of course.
Heh heh. It’s starting to set in with you cons isn’t it? That you’ve lost and what that means?
Almost be worth it to have an open meetup so I can point at you and laugh!
“Environment: From California to Missouri, four of five environmental initiatives lost at the ballot box. Voters are clearly still not ready for exorbitant costs and excessive regulation without clear benefits.”
People can be very frightened of change. Information will change SOME of them. The rest may need to be ….motivated.
Almost be worth it to have an open meetup so I can point at you and laugh!
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I’m game. You buy the hamburgers and rent the shelter this time. I’ll show up late and eat.
Then in four years, when I’m just as good off as I am now and you’re still a loser it will be my turn to laugh.
Excuse me while I giggle a little out of turn now.
hehehe
okobserver
Posted November 10, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink
Rage once again you were wrong. I just read it has gone national. What a laughing stock Kansas is going to be. Good think I am from Oklahoma.
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LOL… now if you would just go BACK to Oklahoma, we would ALL be better off!!!
IMHO
Kansas made itself a laughing stock long before this Obama “joke” —- So far, the article from the Topeka paper didnt convince me that anybody really wants to do that…. Doubly stupid, since Obama didnt even come CLOSE to winning Kansas…
Kansas is too dumb to vote for a WINNER…
I’m glad Obama finally got to measure the drapes today!
okobserver
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:17 pm | Permalink
Steve I believe you were a major reason I left for several weeks and eventually changed my nic. You excoriated me for something unkind you thought I said to someone and I answered back that the little trick you and BJ pulled on Regular was beneath contempt so don’t give me any of your holier than thou garbage.
Pot calling the kettle black. When have you ever admitted what a low down dirty trick that was and how many times have you and BJ called Reg names after that luncheon.
I don’t have any delusions about who I am. I say cutting things at times and call them as I see them. You should try honesty for a while.
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I have no idea what you are talking about. But, I suspect you don’t have a clue, either.
Contrary to your repeated assertions that I act “holier than thou”, I don’t believe that is true and I think that misperception is more accurately a reflection of how badly you feel about yourself. You should feel badly about how you act around here, in my humble opinion.
In re-reading your rant above, I think you are repeating the delusion originally conceived by that expert in reality testing, Nathan Price, that I set up Regular by having B J come around and look at him.
As I have said many times, I emailed J R and told him not to come because Nathan said he was going to show up. I did not know what to expect from Regular and I was concerned that Regular and Nathan might be more than J R could reasonably deal with, so I told him not to come. I did not know that J R was not coming – he did not answer my email. What J R did was wrong I think. If was there, which I don’t know to be true, J R should have joined us. If he had no intention of joining us, he should not have come.
This side of a psych ward, this is the only place I have ever been where buying someone lunch gets one accused of doing something evil.
It reminds me of the first time I met a paranoid who thought his food was poisoned. I had a brilliant idea. I went and got a spoon and ate a couple of bites of his mashed potatoes to demonstrate that there was nothing wrong with his food. He looked up at me and said, “that’s very smart, you ate the part that you knew was not poisoned.” Paranoid man 6, SED 0.
I recount this story only because I think I might have less luck in convincing granny of the truth. To prepare the conspiracy she thinks I am guilty of, would have been no small feat. Germ 6, SED 0.
And, there were puffs of smoke from the grassy knoll, gran. Get some help. If anything you say about your business is true, you should be able to afford it.
“Almost be worth it…”
It was not my intention to be unclear. Meetups are too much fun to ruin with a bunch of mopey cons.
I agree Jay… just look at all of the racial slurs all across the country (even on the WE BLOG) since last Tuesday… Some of the talk radio talking heads didnt even have the cahones to go on the air on Wednesday!!
Had to wait for Drudge to give them their tallking points….
And now some idiots propose an Obama Day!! And thats another cheap shot joke, as well!! READ it again!! Just a joke!! BAD joke, but still a joke!!
It’s like somebody just WANTS to get the Reich Wingers all riled up!! What a farce!!
outlandish posted November 10, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Cosmos, your own link indicates that a 6 years trend line is for flat temps and since it was written earlier, it’s now trending cooler. And last year definitely was. Despite application of Dr. Hanson’s magic formula.
As much as you hate it. GW momentum is s l o w i n g.
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Nope, but your thinking seems to be very s l o w, outlandish.
Too short trend lines show the “noise” of ENSO, volcanoes, and other natural fluctuations.
Despite cooling from a La Nina and a solar minimum in 2007, “last year” tied 1998, which had a record warm El Nino.
“That is why it is the most popular page in the news internet. It isn’t lib or conservative as you would know if you really looked. Man open your eyes and educate yourself before you put yourself out there as an expert on anything.
Raptor
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:05 pm | Permalink
mx…why are you so stupid? It has nothing to do with politics but with available granite, of which there is none for another face. And the crap of there being a 5th face is just that…crap.
I know. I worked there one summer with the Park Service …summer of 1973.
okobserver
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:09 pm | Permalink
Rap I think he has been hanging out with Chas and ignorance is contagious.
StevenEDavis
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:11 pm | Permalink
fnord
Posted November 10, 2008 at 12:49 pm | Permalink
A few days of okobserver admitting her new nic (NOT!!). ONLY after her hand was forced, after many days of lying. Now she has a different story. There are more of her lies available. The internets store the truth.
*****
In order to lie wouldn’t you have to be able to discern, at least somewhat, the truth?
Grm fails that test.
mxyzptlk
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:12 pm | Permalink
retarded granny throws her 2 cents in as usual.
Raptor
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:13 pm | Permalink
The long held rumor of a 5th face can be tracked back to the initial location of Thomas Jefferson. Initially, the carving of Jefferson was to the left of Washington (as we face the mountain, it would be on Washington’s right from “his” perspective).
(Many people initially thought the face was of Martha Washington)
After a good start, they found there was not enough suitable granite to finish, and the partial bust of Jefferson was dynamited off the mountain, and started again on the other side of Washington.
okobserver
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:17 pm | Permalink
Steve I believe you were a major reason I left for several weeks and eventually changed my nic. You excoriated me for something unkind you thought I said to someone and I answered back that the little trick you and BJ pulled on Regular was beneath contempt so don’t give me any of your holier than thou garbage.
Pot calling the kettle black. When have you ever admitted what a low down dirty trick that was and how many times have you and BJ called Reg names after that luncheon.
I don’t have any delusions about who I am. I say cutting things at times and call them as I see them. You should try honesty for a while.
bth
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:17 pm | Permalink
Black Hills granite is not as monolithic as some had hoped. Thus the problems with carving.
Unlike Stone Mountain in Georgia. Now THAT is a hunk of granite!
okobserver
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:20 pm | Permalink
mxy are you sad because I didn’t fall for the chass lie? Poor loser. Talk to steve. He can help you out or there was someone earlier that was cognitive reading or learning therapist. Maybe you can look them up. I have a meeting to go to and won’t be able to stay tonight.
Raptor
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:22 pm | Permalink
The summer I was there, I heard all kinds of stupid remarks like mx said. One time I was asked “what do they do with them in the winter?” A common question was about the ’secret cave’ behind Lincoln, or the “secret” access to a cave via Lincolns’ eye.
There is a small cave (behind Roosevelt, not Lincoln) that was initially planned to be a Hall fo Records, but it was never finished. Gutzon died before it could be completed, and his son, Lincoln, could not raise the funds necessary.
Chas
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:23 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted November 10, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink
Chass I don’t make deals with proven liars. BTW I just reccommended you to someone who said he was a cognitive thought therapist that he give you a call.
It is a real stretch Chas when you talk to me about what I read and my comprehension skills.
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That’s hilarious!! First, you dont have my phone number… And second, why dont you just keep on harassing me every day here on the Blog… You WILL be sorry!!
I guarantee!! I have told you REPEATEDLY I am none of the nics you keep on claiming I am…. I am SURE your reading comprehension level is somewhere close to non-existent!!
But, do keep it up… You will see…
Raptor
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:24 pm | Permalink
Very true, bth. And one connection the two have is that Borglum did work on Stone Mountain…but left in disagreement with the organizers and his preliminary work was blasted off the mountain.
StevenEDavis
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:27 pm | Permalink
I think the Obama day thing is silly, too.
But I believe that such unwarranted enthusiasm comes from the electorate really wanting someone, maybe even anyone, in the White House besides Bush. His presidency has been quite the failure.
mxyzptlk
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:34 pm | Permalink
Granny is working on the same fate as Reguliar. Good luck with that okie and godspeed!
Chas
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:36 pm | Permalink
Regular… good to see you are up and about…
lindainks55
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:40 pm | Permalink
I agree about the Obama Day being silly, and that it won’t go anywhere.
I’m impressed with the seriousness Obama is giving this transition period. It seems he is hitting the ground running. Our challenges are many and a POTUS who does more than take the first several weeks off to cut brush is encouraging!
Chas
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:42 pm | Permalink
Obama Day is somebody’s sick idea of a joke, if I read that right….
Shoot, folks, we dont even have a JFK Day and HE was assasinated!!
American
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:00 pm | Permalink
Gone With The Wind
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, November 07, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Environment: From California to Missouri, four of five environmental initiatives lost at the ballot box. Voters are clearly still not ready for exorbitant costs and excessive regulation without clear benefits.
President-elect Obama may have felt “a righteous wind” at his back during the campaign, but it did not translate into environmental victories at the ballot box, where one green initiative after another failed for a variety of reasons.
California voters shot down both clean-energy propositions on the ballot. Proposition 7 would have required utilities to generate 40% of their power from renewable energy by 2020 and 50% by 2025. It lost 65% to 35%.
Proposition 10 would have created $5 billion in general obligation bonds to help consumers and others purchase certain high-fuel-economy or alternative-fuel vehicles, and to fund research into alternative fuel technology. It failed 60% to 40%.
Even in San Francisco, the capital of liberalism and greenie fervor, voters rejected Proposition H, which would have mandated a rapid increase in the city’s use of clean energy to achieve its goal of being 100% renewable by 2040. It would also have meant taking over the city’s private electric company.
Obama took the former red state of Colorado, which also elected environmentalist Senate candidate Mark Udall over oil executive Bob Shaffer. Yet Coloradans struck down a measure to pay for conservation and clean energy by increasing taxes on oil companies.
Only in Missouri did green energy score a victory. There, Proposition C mandated a 15% increase in renewable energy by 2021 with slow and steady yearly increases that energy companies felt they could phase in without disruption and with which voters felt more comfortable.
The mantra is that oil and car companies are blocking the increased use of renewable energy. The truth is that consumers, through their choices and their votes, are slowing the stampede. They worry about the cost in tough economic times and whether such efforts are worth it based on dubious evidence of global warming. Energy independence is one thing, but going bankrupt to achieve it is quite another.
When gasoline prices were over $4 a gallon, the chant “drill baby drill” grew loud enough that Democrats were forced to back off renewing a ban on offshore drilling. Now in complete control, they can block offshore drilling, nuclear power and shale oil in their Ahab-like pursuit of alternative energy.
Texas consumers are finding out how expensive the pursuit of alternative energy can be. Their state generates more electricity from wind than any other, and people like oil legend T. Boone Pickens want to generate more.
A just published study by the Texas Public Policy Foundation, “Texas Wind Energy: Past, Present and Future,” says that to achieve even modest amounts of wind energy would cost rate payers and taxpayers at least $60 billion through 2025. That includes transmission costs, production costs, subsidies, tax breaks, economic disruption costs and grid-management costs.
Because of the intermittent nature of wind, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas uses a figure of only 8.7% of wind power’s installed capacity when determining available power during peak periods.
On cloudy and windless days, solar and wind are useless and require conventional power sources as backup. Output is not steady and cannot be increased on demand. You can’t make the sun shine brighter or the wind blow harder during peak periods.
A Feb. 27 Reuters story illustrated the point. Headlined “Loss Of Wind Causes Texas Power Grid Emergency,” it told of an electric grid operator forced to curtail 1,100 megawatts of power to customers on just 10 minutes’ notice. The wind simply stopped blowing.
Wind turbines generally operate at only 20% efficiency compared with 85% for coal, gas and nuclear plants. A single 1,000-megawatt nuclear power plant would generate more dependable power than 2,800 1.5-megawatt, occasionally operating wind turbines sitting on 175,000 acres.
Nuclear power is clean energy, and you wouldn’t have to wait for a sunny or windy day to plug in your electric car.
BlueJay
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:00 pm | Permalink
I am so very sorry to learn that decidedly NOT “Regular” still gimps along amongst us.
Oh and okcrone?
Steven had NOTHING to do with what went down. Nathan insinuated himself on the meeting uninvited. Steven and I felt that having “Regular” who has threatened to kill me AND Nathan who makes jokes about using guns to intimidate people at the same place was not a good idea. The idea to get a look at “Regular” was mine. IF he ever comes shuffling up my walk, I want to see him coming.
Actually, I’ve seen him twice since. Not intentionally of course.
Heh heh. It’s starting to set in with you cons isn’t it? That you’ve lost and what that means?
Almost be worth it to have an open meetup so I can point at you and laugh!
BlueJay
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:03 pm | Permalink
“Environment: From California to Missouri, four of five environmental initiatives lost at the ballot box. Voters are clearly still not ready for exorbitant costs and excessive regulation without clear benefits.”
People can be very frightened of change. Information will change SOME of them. The rest may need to be ….motivated.
HLP
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:08 pm | Permalink
Almost be worth it to have an open meetup so I can point at you and laugh!
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I’m game. You buy the hamburgers and rent the shelter this time. I’ll show up late and eat.
Then in four years, when I’m just as good off as I am now and you’re still a loser it will be my turn to laugh.
Excuse me while I giggle a little out of turn now.
hehehe
Chas
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:10 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted November 10, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink
Rage once again you were wrong. I just read it has gone national. What a laughing stock Kansas is going to be. Good think I am from Oklahoma.
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LOL… now if you would just go BACK to Oklahoma, we would ALL be better off!!!
IMHO
Kansas made itself a laughing stock long before this Obama “joke” —- So far, the article from the Topeka paper didnt convince me that anybody really wants to do that…. Doubly stupid, since Obama didnt even come CLOSE to winning Kansas…
Kansas is too dumb to vote for a WINNER…
Phantom
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:13 pm | Permalink
I’m glad Obama finally got to measure the drapes today!
StevenEDavis
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:14 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted November 10, 2008 at 5:17 pm | Permalink
Steve I believe you were a major reason I left for several weeks and eventually changed my nic. You excoriated me for something unkind you thought I said to someone and I answered back that the little trick you and BJ pulled on Regular was beneath contempt so don’t give me any of your holier than thou garbage.
Pot calling the kettle black. When have you ever admitted what a low down dirty trick that was and how many times have you and BJ called Reg names after that luncheon.
I don’t have any delusions about who I am. I say cutting things at times and call them as I see them. You should try honesty for a while.
*****
I have no idea what you are talking about. But, I suspect you don’t have a clue, either.
Contrary to your repeated assertions that I act “holier than thou”, I don’t believe that is true and I think that misperception is more accurately a reflection of how badly you feel about yourself. You should feel badly about how you act around here, in my humble opinion.
In re-reading your rant above, I think you are repeating the delusion originally conceived by that expert in reality testing, Nathan Price, that I set up Regular by having B J come around and look at him.
As I have said many times, I emailed J R and told him not to come because Nathan said he was going to show up. I did not know what to expect from Regular and I was concerned that Regular and Nathan might be more than J R could reasonably deal with, so I told him not to come. I did not know that J R was not coming – he did not answer my email. What J R did was wrong I think. If was there, which I don’t know to be true, J R should have joined us. If he had no intention of joining us, he should not have come.
This side of a psych ward, this is the only place I have ever been where buying someone lunch gets one accused of doing something evil.
It reminds me of the first time I met a paranoid who thought his food was poisoned. I had a brilliant idea. I went and got a spoon and ate a couple of bites of his mashed potatoes to demonstrate that there was nothing wrong with his food. He looked up at me and said, “that’s very smart, you ate the part that you knew was not poisoned.” Paranoid man 6, SED 0.
I recount this story only because I think I might have less luck in convincing granny of the truth. To prepare the conspiracy she thinks I am guilty of, would have been no small feat. Germ 6, SED 0.
And, there were puffs of smoke from the grassy knoll, gran. Get some help. If anything you say about your business is true, you should be able to afford it.
BlueJay
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:14 pm | Permalink
“Almost be worth it…”
It was not my intention to be unclear. Meetups are too much fun to ruin with a bunch of mopey cons.
Chas
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:15 pm | Permalink
I agree Jay… just look at all of the racial slurs all across the country (even on the WE BLOG) since last Tuesday… Some of the talk radio talking heads didnt even have the cahones to go on the air on Wednesday!!
Had to wait for Drudge to give them their tallking points….
And now some idiots propose an Obama Day!! And thats another cheap shot joke, as well!! READ it again!! Just a joke!! BAD joke, but still a joke!!
It’s like somebody just WANTS to get the Reich Wingers all riled up!! What a farce!!
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:20 pm | Permalink
outlandish posted November 10, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Cosmos, your own link indicates that a 6 years trend line is for flat temps and since it was written earlier, it’s now trending cooler. And last year definitely was. Despite application of Dr. Hanson’s magic formula.
As much as you hate it. GW momentum is s l o w i n g.
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Nope, but your thinking seems to be very s l o w, outlandish.
Too short trend lines show the “noise” of ENSO, volcanoes, and other natural fluctuations.
Despite cooling from a La Nina and a solar minimum in 2007, “last year” tied 1998, which had a record warm El Nino.
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When I went to Mt. Rushmore,I enjoyed the tobaggon ride down the mountain, that was fun. Also, the Reptile Gardens was interesting and had some large beautiful geodes.
That is why it (dredge)is the most popular page in the news internet. — the wefu.
Yesterday, CNN was no. 62. Dredge was no. 538. Must every single thing you people believe in be a lie?
BEBER?? could you explain that long post for me please?? Thank you!!
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BlueJay
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:14 pm | Permalink
“Almost be worth it…”
It was not my intention to be unclear. Meetups are too much fun to ruin with a bunch of mopey cons.
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hehehe
Does that mean you ain’t buying the ‘burgers?
limbaugh was no. 6,420, daily kos was 2,950 th. See where you guys are headed?
The goddamned website or the goddamned cumputer is screwed up. Cumputer? W-a-a-a-a-y too much porn.
The one meetup I attended most of the conversation had rather little to do with politics. An interesting discussion of nuclear power – looking at materials and some possible thermodynamic implications.
I just heard on the news that the Secret Service has revealed the code names for the President & Vice Pres Elects:
Barak: Renegade
Michelle: Renaissance
Joe Biden: Celtic
Jill Biden: Capri
Evidently the Secret Service communication devices are said to be so protected that the Secret Service aren’t concerned about anyone being able to listen in.
Keep in mind that Busha nd Cheney will NOT be afforded Secret Service protection when they leave office.
Thank ypu Bill Clinton!
also proving that even environmentalists won’t vote for stupid environmental programs.
“Keep in mind that Busha nd Cheney will NOT be afforded Secret Service protection when they leave office.”
Not true. Former Presidents get 10 years of Secret Service protection.
my bad…it used to be lifetime which the clintons enjoy…ten years for Bush and future prez’s
I really find it disappointing that so many bloggers on the thread of the day site would rather constantly attack persons with whom they disagree than post items of interesting political or other topics.
Surely we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.
Jane, write a note to the Editors… Maybe YOU can get them to listen to reason??
beber
Posted November 10, 2008 at 6:40 pm | Permalink
The goddamned website or the goddamned cumputer is screwed up. Cumputer? W-a-a-a-a-y too much porn.
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HUH??? Please explain??
Later beber… :-)
You got it?
The Republicans’ BEST hope for 2012:
WASILLA, Alaska – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin spent part of the weekend going through her clothing to determine what belongs to the Republican Party after it spent $150,000-plus on a wardrobe for the vice presidential nominee, according to Palin’s father.
Palin’s father, Chuck Heath, said his daughter spent Saturday trying to figure out what belongs to the RNC.
“She was just frantically … trying to sort stuff out,” Heath said. “That’s the problem, you know, the kids lose underwear, and everything has to be accounted for.
“Nothing goes right back to normal,” he said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081110/ap_on_el_pr/palin
Chas,
Test
Who pays for the schools?
TAXPAYERS!
You think you can remember for next time?
These quotes were taken from actual Federal (US) employee performance evaluations…
“Since my last report, this employee has reached rock bottom and has started to dig.”
“His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of morbid curiosity”
“I would not allow this employee to breed”
“This employee is really not so much of a has-been, but more of a definite won’t be”
“Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a trap”
“When she opens her mouth, it seems that it is only to change feet”
“He would be out of his depth in a parking lot puddle”
“This young lady has delusions of adequacy”
“He sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them”
“This employee is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot”
“This employee should go far, and the sooner the better”
“Got a full 6-pack, but lacks the plastic thing to hold it all together”
“A gross ignoramus – 144 times worse than an ordinary ignoramus”
“He certainly takes a long time to make his pointless”
“He doesn’t have ulcers, but he’s a carrier”
“I would like to go hunting with him sometime”
“He’s been working with glue too much”
“He would argue with a signpost”
“He has knack for making strangers immediately”
“He brings a lot of joy whenever he leaves the room”
“When his IQ reaches 50, he should sell”
“If you see 2 people talking and one looks bored, he’s the other one”
“A photographic memory but with the cap over the lens”
“A prime candidate for natural deselection”
“Donated his brain to science before he was done using it”
“Gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn’t coming”
“Has 2 brains, one is lost, the other is out looking for it”
“If he were any more stupid, he’d have to be watered twice a week”
“If you give him a penny for his thoughts, you’d get change”
“If you stand close enough to him, you can hear the ocean”
“One neuron short of a synapse”
“Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, he only gargled”
“Takes him 12 hours to watch 60 Minutes”
“The wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead”
American
Posted November 10, 2008 at 7:59 pm | Permalink
Chas,
Test
Who pays for the schools?
TAXPAYERS!
You think you can remember for next time?
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You must be experiencing an Alzheimers moment… I never said they didnt!! LOL
Beber — NO, I dont get it??
Beber — I dont get your LONG post upthread… just to clarify…
You’re as hopeless as my wife charles. She wouldn’t get it either if she hadn’t lived with me for 40 years.
Just think tasteless.
I don’t know what happened charles. I tried to pick up a sentence with the control copy function, and it posted a whole bunch of crap to the clipboard.
Anyone know where you can get some cheap hollow-point ammo, several calibers?
You know, those nasty hollow point type bullets used by the military and the police. They actually have a carved out point, making it hollow, so that it maximizes expansion, and thus entry wound and exit would size.
Not the cop killer bullets though. Just the hollow points.
Need lots of it before it gets banned.
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 9:18 pm | Permalink
Anyone know where you can get some cheap hollow-point ammo, several calibers?
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Basically anywhere that guns are sold.
BTW, military uses ball ammo.
Looking to REALLLY blow your foot off Reg?
You get around so poorly as it is.
Hey JJ,
There’s a gun show coming up. The very good ammo, the stuff I carry, is rather expensive. Has good stopping power and won’t go through the bad guy and kill your dog accidentally.
Winchester Ranger 230-grain SXT .45 ACP
http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammunition/winchester_ranger/
The SXT ammo is basiclly the same thing as the Black Talon ammo Winchester took off the market because it was too ’scary’. In fact,many people say that SXT stands for “Same eXact Thing”.
hehehe
“When you care enough to send the very best.”
G & A prices are way up. Record sales.
Now I know Obama supports the 2nd Amendment though.
No hurry. Nothing to worry about.
You never know when you might run out though.
Thanks Hank.
I prefer +P for 45acp. Much better ballistics. Otherwise, my .40 beats regular 45acp loads.
Like the Golden Sabers in 45 +P.
Win STHP in 40.
And 9mm +P green box Rem HP is a best buy. I like corbons +P too, just 2x the price of the Remingtons.
In 357, and 44, doesn’t matter much! Like the HP the best, as they should help avoid the over penetration. I just hate it when a round goes through the bad guy and a couple of walls behind him.
Oh, need some 7.62 x 39 and .223 too.
In 357, and 44, doesn’t matter much!
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He he ha, Kinda like shooting a brick out of a potato gun.
Not to accurate but what ever it hits, is going down.
Not sure if Gold or Silver is better. Golden Sabers or Silvertip HP?
I guess the silver bullet would work on werewolves.
Do you guys have to type all this gun porn with one hand?
Just askin’.
Yes well,
Let us hope they remember which is for fighting and which is for fun. For those who HAVE someone to have fun with anyway.
The problem with hollow point ACP ammo is that it tends to jam more often. The 1911 was designed for the pleasantly rounded bullet to feed into the chamber smoothly. You can have you pistol modified by a gunsmith to alleviate the problem but the Ranger ammo doesn’t seem to jam.
My Kimber Ultra Carry II has a 3 inch barrel so I give up a lot of muzzle velocity and stopping power but I make up for that with a really loud noise and huge muzzle flash!
‘A Chicago-Area Electoral Victory Says “No We Won’t” to Nuke Power‘
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harvey-wasserman/a-chicago-area-electoral_b_141725.html
Buying lots of ammo is fine, I do that too, but you need to buy a brick or two of each size of primers, that’s what they’ll go after, and also put in the dies, cases, powder and bullets you need for each caliber. That way you can buy some time. Caliber and ammunition/bullet discussion is fun, but it’s not that important…adequate stores, and then if necessary bullet placement and adequate penetration is important.
If and when things get tough, and the U.S. becomes something other than the free country it is, or once was, optimal ammunition discussions will be mute, adequate ammunition of any kind will be of prime importance.
I have one of the plastic Springfield models Hank. No problem with hollow points or metal detectors.
My Kimber Ultra Carry II has a 3 inch barrel so I give up a lot of muzzle velocity and stopping power but I make up for that with a really loud noise and huge muzzle flash!
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Oh yeah, well I have a 26″ barrel, but it’s a .22. I make up for it with a large clip!
LOL
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JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 9:59 pm | Permalink
I have one of the plastic Springfield models Hank. No problem with hollow points or metal detectors.
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Where do you hide the slide and barrel?
Oh I know Box, reloading is a given. Get the molds and lead to make your own everything.
The bought stuff is simply for backup.
I like the fancy store bought boxes, with SXT and other interesting names on em.
I plan on putting my reloads into the new boxes, and selling em to the newbies after they are banned for say, $100 per box of 25. Maybe $150.
The newbies will be the Lib types here, who have their eyes opened after a ban, then they rush out to buy a POS Taurus or Ruger for $1,000, but they won’t be able to find ammo, except for begging their neighbors who they scorned for all these years.
Payback.
Maybe $200 for 25.
Those that ridicule the folks that like the shooting sports, and say things like,
“Let us hope they remember which is for fighting and which is for fun…For those who HAVE someone to have fun with anyway.”,…
are those that use their own hands for nothing but the insinuations they describe. They have no others that would get close enough to them. And, what’s so funny is they know it or they wouldn’t have brought it up, ha.
Used to be a pretty good sized gun/ammo joint not too far west of Des Moines, off of I-80….
As telling and amusing as the con discussion of artillery and ammo to redress their own inadequacies, fears, and assorted issues is?
THIS deserves interrupting them to post here.
This election. Cons? You deserved to lose. Only the most irrational among you could argue that. Did Obama deserve to win is something submitted for approval.
I have a friend who lost in this election. And not because of anything my friend did or may do but simply for who she is. I ask my friends to remember to leave no one behind. I ask my enemies, against my preconceived notion that there is nothing good or decent in them to prove me wrong.
“Finally tonight as promised, a Special Comment on the passage, last week, of Proposition Eight in California, which rescinded the right of same-sex couples to marry, and tilted the balance on this issue, from coast to coast.
Some parameters, as preface. This isn’t about yelling, and this isn’t about politics, and this isn’t really just about Prop-8. And I don’t have a personal investment in this: I’m not gay, I had to strain to think of one member of even my very extended family who is, I have no personal stories of close friends or colleagues fighting the prejudice that still pervades their lives.
And yet to me this vote is horrible. Horrible. Because this isn’t about yelling, and this isn’t about politics.
This is about the… human heart, and if that sounds corny, so be it.
If you voted for this Proposition or support those who did or the sentiment they expressed, I have some questions, because, truly, I do not… understand. Why does this matter to you? What is it to you? In a time of impermanence and fly-by-night relationships, these people over here want the same chance at permanence and happiness that is your option. They don’t want to deny you yours. They don’t want to take anything away from you. They want what you want — a chance to be a little less alone in the world.
Only now you are saying to them — no. You can’t have it on these terms. Maybe something similar. If they behave. If they don’t cause too much trouble. You’ll even give them all the same legal rights — even as you’re taking away the legal right, which they already had. A world around them, still anchored in love and marriage, and you are saying, no, you can’t marry. What if somebody passed a law that said you couldn’t marry?
I keep hearing this term “re-defining” marriage.
If this country hadn’t re-defined marriage, black people still couldn’t marry white people. Sixteen states had laws on the books which made that illegal… in 1967. 1967.
The parents of the President-Elect of the United States couldn’t have married in nearly one third of the states of the country their son grew up to lead. But it’s worse than that. If this country had not “re-defined” marriage, some black people still couldn’t marry…black people. It is one of the most overlooked and cruelest parts of our sad story of slavery. Marriages were not legally recognized, if the people were slaves. Since slaves were property, they could not legally be husband and wife, or mother and child. Their marriage vows were different: not “Until Death, Do You Part,” but “Until Death or Distance, Do You Part.” Marriages among slaves were not legally recognized.
You know, just like marriages today in California are not legally recognized, if the people are… gay.
And uncountable in our history are the number of men and women, forced by society into marrying the opposite sex, in sham marriages, or marriages of convenience, or just marriages of not knowing — centuries of men and women who have lived their lives in shame and unhappiness, and who have, through a lie to themselves or others, broken countless other lives, of spouses and children… All because we said a man couldn’t marry another man, or a woman couldn’t marry another woman. The sanctity of marriage. How many marriages like that have there been and how on earth do they increase the “sanctity” of marriage rather than render the term, meaningless?
What is this, to you? Nobody is asking you to embrace their expression of love. But don’t you, as human beings, have to embrace… that love? The world is barren enough.
It is stacked against love, and against hope, and against those very few and precious emotions that enable us to go forward. Your marriage only stands a 50-50 chance of lasting, no matter how much you feel and how hard you work.
And here are people overjoyed at the prospect of just that chance, and that work, just for the hope of having that feeling. With so much hate in the world, with so much meaningless division, and people pitted against people for no good reason, this is what your religion tells you to do? With your experience of life and this world and all its sadnesses, this is what your conscience tells you to do?
With your knowledge that life, with endless vigor, seems to tilt the playing field on which we all live, in favor of unhappiness and hate… this is what your heart tells you to do? You want to sanctify marriage? You want to honor your God and the universal love you believe he represents? Then Spread happiness — this tiny, symbolic, semantical grain of happiness — share it with all those who seek it. Quote me anything from your religious leader or book of choice telling you to stand against this. And then tell me how you can believe both that statement and another statement, another one which reads only “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
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You are asked now, by your country, and perhaps by your creator, to stand on one side or another. You are asked now to stand, not on a question of politics, not on a question of religion, not on a question of gay or straight. You are asked now to stand, on a question of…love. All you need do is stand, and let the tiny ember of love meet its own fate. You don’t have to help it, you don’t have it applaud it, you don’t have to fight for it. Just don’t put it out. Just don’t extinguish it. Because while it may at first look like that love is between two people you don’t know and you don’t understand and maybe you don’t even want to know…It is, in fact, the ember of your love, for your fellow **person…
Just because this is the only world we have. And the other guy counts, too.
This is the second time in ten days I find myself concluding by turning to, of all things, the closing plea for mercy by Clarence Darrow in a murder trial.
But what he said, fits what is really at the heart of this:
“I was reading last night of the aspiration of the old Persian poet, Omar-Khayyam,” he told the judge.
“It appealed to me as the highest that I can vision. I wish it was in my heart, and I wish it was in the hearts of all:
“So I be written in the Book of Love;
“I do not care about that Book above.
“Erase my name, or write it as you will,
“So I be written in the Book of Love.”
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Good night, and good luck.
Yup Box, says more about themselves when they make assinine comments like that.
Fiocchi, any experience with that? Apparently that’s the cheap brand of the day.
Checking a few web sites right now.
The Sportsman’s Waarehouse out east has pretty good prices and a large selection.
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HLP
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:13 pm | Permalink
The Sportsman’s Waarehouse out east has pretty good prices and a large selection.
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Yep, far better than Gander.
I think I heard a tweety bird?
WOW! ALL THAT FROM A GUY WHO HATES KANSAS ANY BURNS OUR FLAG?????
That was a GRAND Special Comment by Olberman tonite, Jay… Too bad it isnt on video…. yet….
Hank, does the Bullet Stop sell reloads? Back home a few of the gun shops did their own reloading to sell, generally cheap. These loads were generally just for target practice, nothing custom.
Thanks Hank. Cheaper Than Dirt is really good too.
Fiocchi has a pretty good rep, I’ve never used it, didn’t know it was inexpensive.
I don’t know about the Bullet Stop. I have a couple hundred pounds of reloads form the last gun show for target practice.
Got a bunch of wad cutter for the wife’s .38.
Jim,
I am shooting Fiocchi in my little ‘mouse gun’ 380acp. Remember, I am a big believer in adequate penetration. Expansion is wonderful, but only after adequate penetration. So I am using Fiocchi FMJ in my ultra-conceal mouse gun. That little gun loves oil and hot ammo, the Fiocchi is on the hotter end of what is available. I have not shot a lot of it, one box of 50, but they all functioned without a hiccup.
I also use some in 45 acp. Again in FMJ, but that’s not out of fear of inadequate penetration, simply cost and no fear of inadequate terminal effect with 45 acp.
I use Speer Gold Dots in my snubby, Hydro-Shok in my 40 S&W, Model 23 Glock, except when in remote camping areas then I use 180 or 165 gr. FMJ, again for penetration on animals.
Put a reliable round where it need to go, and don’t fret the details.
Paranoid man 6, SED 0.
Germ 6, SED 0.
*****
The point being here is that one cannot only never win with a sufficiently paranoid con, one cannot even score.
Ignore them; save yourself a bunch of trouble.
I am still not figuring out what beber’s problem was. Maybe, that is not necessary…
There is hope for their Vitamin H deprived brains. It is called haloperidol. They now have less blunt instruments available, but Vitamin H does get the job done. Check it out, Germ.
I’m going to get ready for bed, the game’s about over. Last team with the ball, wins.
Over and Out.
Where ya been all week Boxy?
Dining on ashes or digging a hidey hole UNDER your bomb shelter?
Funny Box, I have a G 23, and take it when in Bear country in the Northwoods Boundary Waters area or Colorado mountain country.
It’s not the recommended caliber, but it fits nicely in the backpack.
.454 Casul or higher is recommended. Twice the weight of the 23 though!
The DimLibs have no balls, and hate anyone who does.
I’d be funny if it weren’t so sad.
Face it Box.
The ONLY votes that slime like you can win anymore are issues that pander to the baser things in human beings like bigotry and hate.
Guns cannot save you from the rise of ideas and new ideals.
President Obama has made it his mission to begin to use the very power your President bush gathered to himself. Only Obama will use it to erase the evil bush did.
You will lose.
See how upset the ball-less DimLibs get when you get to the heart of their being. Soulless.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/BrowseAmmo.aspx?c=95&s=928&b=FIOCCHI
Here Box, some reasonably priced 40 for your 23, in Fiocchi.
Man prices have gone up in the last couple of months!
Guns can’t save you from ideas? WTF does that mean? Sounds like an Obama Platitude from a brainwashed hack.
If there’s somebody with a Facist Socialist IDEA breakin down my door, I gotta fightin chance if I can shoot back. And so do 100 million other gun owners.
I don’t buy my “balls” in a gun shop there Boxy.
Prop. 8….does it bug you BJ….good!!!
Right wins!
Well there is “Right”.
And then there is right.
But what would a salesman know about that?
Sleep well BJ, if you can.
I assure, you I will.
Night all
The leaders of the countries mentioned below, and some very nasty ideas. And they had to disarm their citizens before they could implement their wise assed ideas:
http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/chuck-baldwin-buy-a-gun/
Some years back, Alan Rice of the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO) wrote, “Since 1900 at least seven major genocides have occurred resulting in the murder of 50-60 million people:
*Ottoman Turkey, 1915-17; 1-1.5 million Armenians murdered; *Soviet Union, 1929-53; 20 million anti-Communists and anti-Stalinists murdered; *Nazi Germany & Occupied Europe, 1933-45; 13 million Jews, Gypsies, and Anti-Nazi murdered; *China, 1949-52, 1957-60 & 1966-1976; 20 million anti-Communists murdered; *Guatemala, 1960-1981; 100,000 Mayan Indians murdered; *Uganda, 1971-1979; 300,000 Christians and Political Rivals of Idi Amin murdered; *Cambodia, 1975-1979; 1 million murdered.”
Rice continued to say, “In all seven of the genocides summarized above, gun control laws were in force before the genocide occurred, in some cases decades before. In five of the seven genocides, the lethal law, the gun control law was in force before the genocide regime took power.”
Rice also said, “Gun control laws are usually enacted during a crisis or a perceived crisis.” He then said, “Government officials, not hate groups or common criminals, were responsible for these seven genocides. In most of these cases the murder victims outnumbered their murderers; yet they were powerless to defend themselves because they were disarmed.”
“Prop. 8….does it bug you BJ….good!!!
Right wins!”
Is that the standard for what you now call a victory?
Making laws against a minority of people by playing to the darker side of human weakness and fear and you call it victory?
Make sure you burn the bridges and salt the Earth while you are at it.
BlueJay
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:39 pm | Permalink
Guns cannot save you from the rise of ideas and new ideals.
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Add this to the Famous Last Words list of World History.
Who was it said, “The pen is mightier that the sword.”?
Well they were right.
Consider… this forum.
The kooks Kandisue and “Franklin”? Defeated.
I could run down a list of cons who have either quit, been confined for their own good, switched nics or otherwise retreated from the field of ideas.
Stockpiling guns and ammunition. Who does that but the afraid?
No climate change, huh?
When was the last time it hailed in November in Wichita?
Bible in Basic English
Leviticus 18:22
You may not have sex relations with men, as you do with women: it is a disgusting thing.
What’s the matter BJ, don’t get mad at me, I didn’t give this instruction….GOD did. I just pay attention.
Libs never switch nics? Do you JR?
Did God tell you personally Box?
Or, did you just THINK you read it in a book?
Go get me switching nics Jimmuh.
BJ,
Don’t lie to yourself, anymore than than you already do.
The reason some have quit posting is that many, including myself somewhat, realize this is nothing more than a Hotel California situation where one becomes trapped in a nightmarish place that at first appeared inviting and tempting but sooner or later becomes apparent to be a place of hedonism and self-destruction that the DimLibs dwell in.
Folks of reason and sanity don’t need to live here.
Your famous quote JR, “The pen is mightier than the sword.”
Penned by Robert Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Earl of Lytton.
He’s famous for:
“Lord Lytton arrived as Viceroy of India in 1876. In the same year, a famine broke out in south India which claimed between 6.1 million and 10.3 million people. [1]
While some Historians claim the famine was due to natural causes and thus the British Government bore no responsibility, some British and American historians recently argued the famine was man-made due to Lytton’s policies.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bulwer-Lytton,_1st_Earl_of_Lytton
(You choose the Pen, I’ll choose the Gun.)
“Folks of reason and sanity don’t need to live here.”
Be here yes. Live here, no.
Take that up with folks on your side of things who have WAY more time to post than me.
HOW are you trapped here?
Am I that good at making you look at and defend yourself?
Ignorance truly is bliss, ain’t it JR?
anonymous
See Pat?
That’s where you’re wrong.
I confessed to the only two posts I did as JM.
I posted yesterday only a few times during the day and only was on for an hour or so last night.
I don’t play with identities. Sometime, I’ll tell you why.
Posted by: J R | November 07, 2007 at 09:51 PM
For all you good ol’ boy White Nationalists — One of your good buddies, Pat Buchanan is plastered all over this rather telling web site….
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?s=dd593c48ba2237e8a434471cd5767dcb&t=455382&page=2
Seems like he is a hero to these “people”
“(You choose the Pen, I’ll choose the Gun.)”
And in all but the simplest panders to human prejudice, you are losing.
(The 11/7/2007 post from Blue Jay is when he was JR, admitting he nic switched as someone else.)
You live here BJ, you live here and nowhere else.
Really sad.
So BJ/JR, do you Nic Switch?
Link to the admitted Nic Switcher:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/republicans-sup/#comment-161469
Robert Bulwer-Lytton, sounds nice, sorta like Obama.
Robert’s nice sounding words helped kill millions of people.
Bet he died with that pen up his ass.
Oh, and a Liar too.
BJ/JR Lied about Nic Switching.
“You live here BJ, you live here and nowhere else.
Really sad.”
While not true, you thinking it is seems to keep YOU here and fighting me and thus tying you up from progressing your agenda. Whatever that is.
What have you proved here “Jim Johnson”?
I nic switched to fight a nic switcher and admitted it?
Address and answer a better question.
Why is it that SO many on the right have to hide who THEY are while attacking others for what they are?
The trick in picking out a nic switcher is in parsing the style.
I’m not thinking “JimJohnson” is Regular.
My guess it is is Hank or Nathan.
Again, it goes to, who ARE the cons? We know what they are. The who of it they keep changing. Why do they do that?
BlueJay
Posted November 2, 2008 at 10:22 pm | Permalink
I don’t switch nics Nathan.
I also do not lie as you do.
It’s FEAR Blue Jay… pure, agonizing FEAR!!
THE LIAR:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-112-3/#comment-461497
Oh, now :: is here!
I have to respectfully disagree, BlueJay.
JimJohnson is ReguLiar, Republican, JM, Kansas, RepubliKhan, Eier, UncleWilliam et al.
It’s not only the style that gives away the nic switcher, it’s also the number of posts and the ability to bone-dig.
You can’t look for what you don’t know to look for.
It’s him. He’s staying clean right now, probably because his other nic was banned. But pretty soon he won’t be able to stop himself and he’ll come out with the really perverse and vile accusations that only his perverse and vile mind could dream up.
Sucks to be him.
And the puerile desire to make the WEBlog all about MEEEE . . .
Sheesh, a half hour or so ago, we had a freaking hail storm that covered the ground. Looked like snow.
And it’s NOVEMBER.
Let’s see . . . that makes about the third or fourth hailstorm we’ve had this year.
Global warming?
Nah, nothing to see here.
Hurricane in the Gulf in November?
Nothing to fret about . . .
Drill, baby, drill.
I am so inspired and filled with optimism at the hope the future now brings.
Everynight before I go to sleep, I read this. Obama inspires me oh so much!
“I should like to help everyone if possible; Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, black men, white, red, and yellow. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each others’ happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.
Greed has poisoned men’s souls; has barricaded the world with hate; we live in misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Industry that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge as made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than wealth we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. Modern communications and technology have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in man; cries out for universal brotherhood; for the unity of us all.
Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me, I say “Do not despair.” The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it’s written “the kingdom of God is within man”, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create prosperity, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power.
Let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men and women a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill their promise. They never will! Evil rulers free themselves but they enslave the people! Now let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world! To do away with national barriers! To do away with greed, with hate and intolerance! Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness.
Citizens of the world, in the name of democracy, let us all unite!
People can you hear me? Wherever you are, look up! The clouds are lifting! The sun is breaking through! We are coming out of the darkness into the light! We are coming into a new world; a kind new world, where men and women will rise above their hate, their greed, and brutality. Look up! The soul of mankind has been given wings and at last he is beginning to fly. He is flying into the rainbow. Into the light of hope! Into the future! The glorious future! That belongs to you, to me, and to all of us. Look up, everyone! Look up!”
That was a wonderful acceptance speech right in the heart of a wonderful City…. Grant Park has rarely had so much radiance as it had last Tueday nite!!
I don’t know Capn.
In these times, I don’t think ANY con nic is reliable.
James McCluer is the worst of the nic switchers . But Hank, Nathan, and okobserver have done it too.
The who of they are is lessened when they can’t own up to it. THIS while they attack and judge people better than them for WHAT they are.
For hate, bigotry, and fear, log in to:
http://www.stormfront.org
Enough hate, bigotry, and fear to make even old Adolph shed a tear of joy!!
/sarcasm off
And here’s another site so full of love, and national honor!!! (scuse me while I puke)
http://www.kkk.com/
Goodnite everyone, and have sweet dreams of Hope.
Each day going forward will be even more glorious then the last!
Chas
Posted November 10, 2008 at 11:49 pm | Permalink
That was a wonderful acceptance speech right in the heart of a wonderful City…. Grant Park has rarely had so much radiance as it had last Tueday nite!!
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What was your favorite part?
The old ReguLiar didn’t seem to know anything about guns, but neither does JimJohnson if he doesn’t know where to buy hollow points.
The rest of his “gun lore” sounds like recycled crap from the billions of gun websites out there . . .
Jay, CapN… remember what Gov. Arnold said today in CA >>>>
This isnt over (referring to Prop. 8) There is already a law suit being prepared to file with the CA Supreme Court. HOPE is the word for our future in this great Nation!!
Keep HOPE alive!!
JimJohnson knows, CapN… He just wanted to find out who ELSE would know… They are all very afraid… FEAR is a poison… a slow working poison… Usually, if not controlled sensibly, it is a sure killer…
JJM–
Where did you get that “Look up!” speech?
You got a link?
Or is it just your own parody of what you think Obama sounds like?
BTW, my favorite part of the Grant Park celebration was when a white boy sitting on his dad’s shoulders handed his Obama rally sign to a black boy sitting on his dad’s shoulders and they both flashed the V for Victory sign.
Yes, we can.
Yes, we did.
Palin interview with sellout Greta is my bedtime story.
I hope it has an unhappy ending.
On all but the easiest of fields, the cons are in full headlong disorganized retreat.
Chase down and destroy them.
Ummmm CapN — Do you know of anybody who goes Bear hunting in the Winter??? Winter, when the Bear are hibernating?? Really??
Fear is not a poison Chas. It is a motivator.
God uses Fear all the time to motivate people. You of all people should know that.
Fear keeps people alive when they are attacked. Fear keeps people doing the right thing, when they want to do the wrong thing.
Your overly dramatic use of the word fear is coming from your lack of understanding, which I of course, helped you to address earlier.
“God uses Fear all the time to motivate people.”
Not a god I want anything to do with.
Maybe such a “God” should fear for himself.
Maybe we don’t need imaginary supreme beings anymore.
Course some of you still believe FDR’s propoganda, “there’s nothing to fear but fear itself.”
Tell that to the 20 million soldiers fighting in the Pacific and in Europe. Fear was one hell of a motivator for them. And the Fear was very real.
ReguLiar–
Stick to talking about the old Belgian shotgun somebody gave you years ago.
You give yourself away when you try to fake like you do a lot of shooting.
LOL When Roosevelt spoke those words, there were no Soldiers in Europe or the Pacific…. Those words were from his FIRST Inaugural Address…. 1933….
Do try another deflection, ok??
Now tell me what exactly is a National Security Force?
“It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he’s the one who proposed this national security force,” Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. “I’m just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism.”
Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.
“That’s exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did,” Broun said. “When he’s proposing to have a national security force that’s answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he’s showing me signs of being Marxist.”
Obama’s comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation’s foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps “to renew our diplomacy.”
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” Obama said in July. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force.
Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors “common sense” gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he’ll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.
“We can’t be lulled into complacency,” Broun said. “You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I’m not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I’m saying is there is the potential.”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/10/republican-congressman-warns-obama-dictatorship/
I have no more time for Right Wing foolishness tonite…
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL
blessings on our great nation of HOPE!!
so mote it be!!
Goodnite everyone, and have sweet dreams of Hope.
Each day going forward will be even more glorious then the last!
Obama will soon build his own kingdom, right here on Earth!
We already got one… idiot…. Those folks who work for the TSA at the airports… they are part of an already-in-place civilian national security force….
Obama is talking about new kind of peace corps…. for OUR country this time….
Ever hear of VISTA??? It was terriffic… time to maybe bring it back… only this time, with pay… put people to work!! Get them back on the tax rolls….
YES!! YES WE CAN!!
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2008 at 11:54 pm | Permalink
Goodnite everyone, and have sweet dreams of Hope.
Each day going forward will be even more glorious then [sic; the retard cannot even spell] the last!
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It is true. I heard from J.J.’s wife that she plans to smother him with a pillow tonight. Thank God, thank God almighty!
This sound like TSA, Vista, or the Peace Corps?
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” Obama said in July. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
All you got is MORE paranoia, and MORE FEAR mongering!!
Give it up, yoyo…. We have a glorious new future ahead of us!! The road will be rough for a while…. But, ohhh when it gets smoothed out… the USA will be back in all of its Glory, and Greatness!! The Land of the Free…. and the Home of the Brave…. a nation where we will once again be Proud to call HOME!!!
YES!! YES WE CAN!!
Night all. See you sweethearts tomorrow. I will be in late due to traveling with my son to some colleges… (those places that conservatives should never go, since they don’t believe what is preached there).
“I’m rational and relevant and misunderstood!”
And this is the case Sarah Palin presents to?
Greta van Sustern.
She feels your pain Sarah.
There he goes again, Chas interpreting Obama’s actual words and twisting them into a completely different meaning.
Sounds like what Chas does to the Bible too.
What a brainwashed lil fool.
Sure…. we will need an expanded police force to corral some of our REAL threats to national security…. Drugs… Sex slave rings… Violence to children…. Violence against women… Please remember…. Police are ALSO civilians…. The military cant do it all!! How true that is!!
And combined with TSA, and VISTA, and a new Peace Corps… we can go FAR!!!
We will find new needs, and meet them… We will see hurts and heal them!!
And the world will be a better place!!
Now, I must go… Good Night fellow Americans!!
Yes!! Yes We Can!!
Chas
Posted November 11, 2008 at 12:20 am | Permalink
All you got is MORE paranoia, and MORE FEAR mongering!!
Give it up, yoyo…. We have a glorious new future ahead of us!! The road will be rough for a while…. But, ohhh when it gets smoothed out… the USA will be back in all of its Glory, and Greatness!! The Land of the Free…. and the Home of the Brave…. a nation where we will once again be Proud to call HOME!!!
YES!! YES WE CAN!!
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Spoken like a good lil obedient comrade.
The right seems to love that quote: “Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany.”
WRONG.
The pre-eminent historian of the time William Shirer of “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” fame clearly de-bunks it.
Hitler was never elected to power in a free and fair election. He forced concessions from other political parties until he could seize power completely. That’s how he became chancellor. And from there, it was a short hop to the faked “Reichstag fire” set by GASP! communists! to play on fear and set himself up as dictator.
To claim that Obama is like Hitler because both of them were “elected” is despicable beyond words.
Thank God, Bush was never elected, eh?
Best Wishes Steven… and Safe Journey!!
Chas, crime is at the lowest level in 20 years.
What’s the need for this great Obama Army?
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” Obama said in July. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
Amazing — JimJohnson (Ahem) would rather Fight against the very NATION that makes and keeps him FREE…. than celebrate the give of a new Vision!!
Quite UNAmerican of you Johnson…. tsk tsk
“I’m not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I’m saying is there is the potential.”
In other words, he IS comparing him to Hitler.
The problem with Nazi Germany was not that people didn’t have guns.
The problem was stated very clearly by Elie Weisel in his book “Night.”
“The question was not how this one man, Hitler, could be so evil, but how so many millions had not the courage to be good.”
Acorn Capn.
Acorn.
From the Palin interview with sell out Greta.
“I saw signs that said Piper 2012″
Piper Palin is 7 years old.
In 2012 she will be 11. And though I agree that the young should lead?
Piper has an unfit mother and her own issues.
Good night Flaming NitWit…. Go flame at somebody else!! Your FEAR cant harm me!! I disavow your FEAR… Go off to your North woods —- Maybe you can convince the trees, and little furry critters how they should be afraid!! Take plenty of heavy coats and blankets for winter… it gets COLD up there in them woods!!
James, you dumb ass–
Obama was talking about the security issues of poverty and hunger and hopelessness and homelessness.
He’s not talking about storm troopers marching around in brown shirts with guns on their hips . . . though come to think of it, that’s what you wing-nuts go for . . .
Celebrate the give of new vision?
You make no sense Chas.
Being prepared to defend one’s Freedom from a new Obama Army attacking civilians is certainly not unpatriotic.
CapN — he is really saying he likes these good patriotic folks >>>>
http://www.stormfront.org
Here’s the full context:
JFK not only called on a new generation, he made their service a bridge to the developing world and a bright light of American values in the darkest days of the Cold War.
Today, AmeriCorps, our nation’s network of local, state and national service programs, has 75,000 slots. Now, I know firsthand the quality of these programs. My wife, Michelle, once left her job at a law firm and at city hall to be a founding director of an AmeriCorps program in Chicago that trains young people for careers in public service.
And these programs invest Americans in their communities and their country. They tap America’s greatest resource, our citizens. And that’s why as president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots… and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.
People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem — they are the answer.
So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.
We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families.
And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
We need to use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69960
In the context of the speech, one can easily see that he’s defining national security in a broader way than simply protection from invasion or attack.
He’s talking about the trillions for war and the pennies for peace that we have now.
give = gift, you stupid GEEK!!!
And no civilians will be attacked, unless they are stupid enough like you and your buddies, and go after them with your stupid penis envy weapons!! LOL
Read the quote Capn. You are distorting Obama’s words just as severely as your lil buddy Chas. I thought you were the smart one.
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” Obama said in July. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
What about ACORN?
I am well aquainted with ACORN when they were still in Wichita.
They’re great. I wish they hadn’t pulled out our town. We could use them.
Absolutely RIGHT, CapN… And in so doing, we cast off the Fear Mongers, and their stupidity…. We PROVE them to be cry babies, and liars!! And the Light will Shine!!
The city set on the Hill shall not be hid!!
Johnson, you need a better grade of whiskey… one that doesnt impair your reading abilities…. and fry your brain!! LOL
Well, Steven.
I hope your son grows up to be a good little indcotrinated liberal who can’t think for himself and merely accepts whatever is told to him at school.
Congratulations. Another liberal robot will be introduced to the world.
You read the quote, JamesMcCluer.
Read the whole quote I posted above.
Civilian national security force doesn’t mean guns to shoot people with. It means volunteers to help people.
Sheesh.
What a maroon.
This is what we’ve got to look forward to–eight years of the reich-wing bending and twisting every commonsense idea into “Obama is Hitler and Stalin!”
Nathan–
The king of the gratutious cheap shot.
BTW, ever notice how similar the word “Nathan” and “Sathan” are?
Sathan is the old pronunciation of the word . . .
Chas
Posted November 11, 2008 at 12:46 am | Permalink
Absolutely RIGHT, CapN… And in so doing, we cast off the Fear Mongers, and their stupidity…. We PROVE them to be cry babies, and liars!! And the Light will Shine!!
The city set on the Hill shall not be hid!!
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Says the short moustached Chas while shakin his lil fists.
(Drop your pacifier?)
Capn,
World Net Daily, hell, you’ve criticized that source before.
Best you can do?
CapnAmerica,
No more a cheap shot than what Steven said.
“(those places that conservatives should never go, since they don’t believe what is preached there).”
Sorry, Ahem, Johnson, no hand that reaches 1.5 octaves on a Steinway can make a “lil” fist!! Wanna try a different ad hominem?? And the moustache isnt short either LOL!!
Ahhhh the great new Vision of Hope!!
Mt. 7:12 will be seen in is full splendor!!
And the love of God, and Yahweh, and Allah, and Krishna, and Buddha, and the love of humankind for one another, et al, will be seen in the lives of people around the world… And not JUST because of Obama… but by the vision of HOPE that he asks us to start living every day!! Yes!! Yes we can!!
A Christians hope should be in Christ, not that of humanity, and especially not a single political figure.
In Christ alone my hope is found
He is my light, my strength, my song
This Cornerstone, this solid ground
Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace
When fears are stilled, when strivings cease
My Comforter, my All in All
Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh
Fullness of God in helpless babe
This gift of love and righteousness
Scorned by the ones He came to save
‘Til on that cross as Jesus died
The wrath of God was satisfied
For every sin on Him was laid
Here in the death of Christ I live
There in the ground His body lay
Light of the world by darkness slain
Then bursting forth in glorious Day
Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory
Sin’s curse has lost its grip on me
For I am His and He is mine
Bought with the precious blood of Christ
No guilt in life, no fear in death
This is the power of Christ in me
From life’s first cry to final breath
Jesus commands my destiny
No power of hell, no scheme of man
Can ever pluck me from His hand
‘til He returns or calls me home
Here in the power of Christ I’ll stand
I will stand, I will stand
All other ground is sinking sand
All other ground (x2)
Is sinking sand (x2)
So I’ll stand!
Newsboys: In Christ Alone
“God is in all things(including people),
And everywhere(including all nations) Present.”
Martin Luther, Reformer
Luther’s Works
Above Reference: “The Doctrine of Ubiquity”
What is this, post random information night?
Nathaniel,
I think every day is “post random info. day.” It is amazing how the thread changes so rapidly. Just when one topic is getting interesting, here comes another unrelated one.
Nathaniel
Posted November 11, 2008 at 1:07 am | Permalink
CapnAmerica,
No more a cheap shot than what Steven said.
“(those places that conservatives should never go, since they don’t believe what is preached there).”
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Not a cheap shot, just the truth. You are a shining example of that truth, also, Nathan. I am still hoping I can have some respect for WSU because they haven’t given you a degree yet, right?
StevenEDavis
Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:26 pm | Permalink
Paranoid man 6, SED 0.
Germ 6, SED 0.
*****
The point being here is that one cannot only never win with a sufficiently paranoid con, one cannot even score.
Ignore them; save yourself a bunch of trouble.
I am still not figuring out what beber’s problem was. Maybe, that is not necessary…
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One last notation here, one cannot win with PARANOID cons because we (non-insane persons) are not playing the same game they are.
They are, Nathan most notably, playing a game that involves looking for the perfect delusion that will explain their extreme fear of the world that most of us enjoy. This poor boy is very sick. Please send him to the Wichita V.A. if he shows up anywhere near you.
Good night.
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