With Barack Obama having resigned from his Senate seat Sunday, writing a letter to the people of Illinois expressing “very affectionate thanks,” the White House’s gain has become the U.S. Senate’s loss of sorts. “For all the celebration about a black man in the White House, there is no African-American in the U.S. Senate. That needs to be addressed,” said PBS talk show host Tavis Smiley (in photo) on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” Smiley raised the possibility that the Illinois governor may name Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. to the seat.
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Well, yes that is happening. Donald Betts is congressman that ran for senate in kansas but lost this year. Rip Gooch is retired. Obama’s replacement be an Thai-American woman named ____ Duckworth, a Iraqi war veteran. I’m sure that we’ll be seeing more balck senators in the years to come. Many younger black people are seeing what is possible now.
I hope that the Illinois governor does not appoint Jesse Jackson Jr. There has to be better choices.
Whoa! People, people, people! BHO is the president elect! We are officially in this country’s post-racial era!
Why are we still using hyphenated terms like African-American? Why is in necessary to consider the color of a man’s skin when filling a Senate seat?
One giant step back for America.
I’m saddened.
I remember a black senator from Oklahoma. He is a great guy. Principled, strong moral fiber and a darn good football player. His only problem he -wasn’t black enough to attend the black caucus. He wasn’t included, not because of who he was but because he didn’t have the right letter after his name. I hope we see more of JC Watts in the future.
I agree with Hank. Until we look past a persons color and see the content of their character we have learned nothing from MLK. We are all Americans.
Jesus grmie. Isnt it a little early to crank up the error machine?
We could play “where’s waldo” with all the times you are wrong in every post. Pick out the false statements in every grmie post and win a prize.
JC Watts was a congressman, not a senator. IIRC, he chose not to become a member of the black caucus. He was too busy kissing white evangelical ass.
I think that lack of comprehension regarding the most basic fact of Watt’s short lived political career in the HOUSE says it all about grmie and her posts.
“We are officially in this country’s post-racial era!”
Some of us, maybe even a majority of us are.
But to call racism dead is to allow the remaining racists a place to hide.
If the Black community would start taking responsibility for themselves and start helping one another, maybe more of them could get out of the gutter and into a responsible role in America.
Yeah, if only blacks could be more like YOU, right, ANTI?
Did you read my explanation of how I heard of WW2 atrocities first-hand?
I’ll accept your apology now.
Did you read my explanation of how I heard of WW2 atrocities first-hand?
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No. I went to sleep.
Kgrrl–
Notice how appreciative OkO is when you point out the error of her ways?
When truth conflicts with the cherished ideology of CON world, the truth has to die.
ANTI says he “went to sleep.”
Exactly right.
Literally and figuratively.
Just like your pResident–asleep at the wheel.
Just like your pResident–asleep at the wheel.
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He is your President as well.
Not anymore.
Free at last! Free at last!
THANK GOD A’MIGHTY, WE’RE FREE AT LAST!
“Free at last! Free at last!
THANK GOD A’MIGHTY, WE’RE FREE AT LAST!”
Not all of us Captain. Not all of us…
Now the oppressed have become a part of the oppressor group.
My GOD! We have our own version of “Jay Walking” here today.
Uh, rs?
“Donald Betts is congressman that ran for senate in kansas but lost this year.”
Donald Betts was a Kansas state senator who ran for the US Congress this year.
jesus WEPT!
We need a basic civics class around here!
“”Watts chastised some black Democrats and civil rights leaders as “race-hustling poverty pimps”, whose careers he said depended on keeping blacks dependent on the government.”"
Wonder why JC Watts was not pushed as our first black president, would not want some one who speaks the truth.
clane
Posted November 18, 2008 at 8:51 am | Permalink
“”Watts chastised some black Democrats and civil rights leaders as “race-hustling poverty pimps”, whose careers he said depended on keeping blacks dependent on the government.””
Wonder why JC Watts was not pushed as our first black president, would not want some one who speaks the truth.
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Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject.
I agree with what Bill Clinton said, until we met someone and the first thing we DON’T see is the color of their skin, we still have a problem with racism in this country.
What is this guys problem. There is no such thing as Affirmative Action in the Political world. Barack Obama got to where he is because he deserved it through is relentless work and effort. Essentially what Tavis Smiley is saying is an insult to the African Amercian community. Ugh, I’m so sick of it being called the African American community, when are they going to drop the “African” and just be part of a bigger community. I’m not part of the European Caucasian American Community, I’m just part of a community of people.
When you depend on the Government for your welfare, you will never have power. Some people want to keep it that way. That is extremely sad.
“When you depend on the Government for your welfare, you will never have power. Some people want to keep it that way. That is extremely sad.”
In a perfect world, people would all be independant…but we have a responsibility to take care of our disabled and elderly. That’s where most of “welfare” money goes…not to the able bodied or the single mom or dad, but to the mentally retarded, the wheelchair bound quadriplegic, the paranoid schizophrenic who can’t funtion in society, or the elderly woman with no money who lives alone with no family support.
That’s where your tax dollars are being used, not to prop up and support some healthy but lazy person who simply doesn’t want to work.
Who Gets Welfare Money?
Nearly three out of every four dollars spent on welfare aid to children goes to single-parent families. Not surprising, considering over 80 percent of long-tern child poverty occurs in broken or never-married homes.
Federal and state governments spend about $200 billion annually in means-tested aid, with some $149 billion- roughly 74 percent-going to kids in one-parent families.
The aid includes a variety of programs such as Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), public housing, food stamps, Medicaid, WIC Food Program, Social Security and dozens of other programs.
The erosion of marriage and the increase in single-parent families are major causes of child poverty and welfare dependence in the United States.
http://www.heritage.org/emails/welfare_watch/welfarewatch4.html
but…we MUST keep racism alive…what else would sharpton and jackson do if they couldn’t scream RACISM every time the sun rises?
maybe..just maybe they might have to get JOBS? nawww, never happen…
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Mary_Caruso
Posted November 18, 2008 at 8:56 am | Permalink
I agree with what Bill Clinton said, until we met someone and the first thing we DON’T see is the color of their skin, we still have a problem with racism in this country.
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hehehe
I usually look at their hooters. I’m still working on the ’sexism’ thing.
ANTI
Posted November 18, 2008 at 8:25 am | Permalink
If the Black community would start taking responsibility for themselves and start helping one another, maybe more of them could get out of the gutter and into a responsible role in America.
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And the same could be said about the White community. Aren’t there alot of white families on welfare? Aren’t there alot of white people who are making minimum wage at their jobs? Aren’t there alot of white girls having babies out of wedlock?
Irresponsiblity and poverty does not know color.
Let’s not forget that HLP is one of those evangelical values voters. hehehe
Okie – I thought JC Watts quit because he was tired of being the token Evangelical Christian? Nothing like being a star of a group that is only using you because of your skin color – huh?
And the same could be said about the White community.
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Definitely, although the problems you listed are very prominent in the black community. More so than any group.
fermie thanks for pointing that out. Early morning mistake on my part. Up early and out. I have heard him talk many times. He is an intelligent man and said his reason for quitting was to spend time with his family and to get away from the political machine in Washington.
I was actually referring to once hearing him talk about being excluded from the black caucus by Maxine Watters. He said he didn’t know it was a party only club.
Mom do you have a reference for that post or just blowing smoke?
J.C. Watts runs a lobbying firm in D.C.
Hardly a sign he wanted “to get away from the political machine in Washington.”
He was the Republic Party’s token black guy. A womanizer with several out-of-wedlock kids, took money under the table when he played football for the Sooners.
And he broke the 4th Commandment by dishonoring his father who famously said, “A black man voting for a Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.”
;^)
“The erosion of marriage and the increase in single-parent families are major causes of child poverty and welfare dependence in the United States.”
Mr. Social Conservative, I would like to introduce you to Mr. Fiscal Conservative.
You two have more in common than you may realize. Work together the benefits to each will be multiplied due to a synergism.
Stronger families due to firm grasp of the importance of values and individual responsibility, results in less nannie state oversight, lower taxes and as as result more prosperity.
New Members Join Africare Board of Directors
Former Congressman J.C. Watts, Jr., International Human Rights Lawyer Gay J. McDougall Are Among Appointments
Washington , D.C. (January 12, 2005) …Africare announces the recent appointment of the following six individuals to its Board of Directors. The new Africare Board members are: Mr. Stephen D. Cashin, the Honorable Howard F. Jeter, Ms. Gay J. McDougall, Ms. Barbara A. McKinzie, the Honorable J.C. Watts, Jr., and the Honorable Howard Wolpe, Ph.D.
The Honorable J.C. Watts, Jr., is chairman of the J.C. Watts Companies, where he works with clients to implement business development, communications, and public affairs strategies. Mr. Watts was elected to the U.S. Congress from Oklahoma in 1994, where he served four terms, during which he led two Congressional trade missions to Africa. His continued public service has included leading a U.S. delegation to the Conference on Racism, Discrimination, and Xenophobia covened by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe; accompanying President George W. Bush on his trip to Africa; and co-founding and co-chairing the Coalition for AIDS Relief in Africa. Mr. Watts has also created the J.C. Watts Foundation to focus on urban renewal and other charitable initiatives.
http://www.africare.org/news/news2005/BoDJan05.php—————-
Monkey do you have something to back up your attack of is it just baseless bs like you usually post?
“The Honorable J.C. Watts, Jr., is chairman of the J.C. Watts Companies, where he works with clients to implement business development, communications, and public affairs strategies.”
IIRC, that would be Mr. Watts’ Lobby Firm…
“okobserver” –
I can back up everything I said about Watts.
You can start reading here:
http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/Watts.html
congrats monkey you have just proved my point. He admitted to many mistakes. This entire site was a smear job on republican politicians. Didn’t you notice that? Where were the hit jobs on demo who had something to hide.
Even they said don’t take this as gospel. This would be to avoid lawsuits. When you print untruths you meed to cover your backside.
I am not defending any thing Watts might have done. If nothing else he raised himself out of a family that looks to be down near the bottom of the food chain.
Yep the party of personal destruction. Thats the dimtards. Thanks Monkey.
And Chass you might need to work on your reading comprehension.
And what did I not read properly?? Seems I know the description of a Lobby group when I see it… LOL
http://www.wattsconsultinggroup.com/
indicates that he founded and runs a lobbying company.
Chas
Posted November 18, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink
“The Honorable J.C. Watts, Jr., is chairman of the J.C. Watts Companies, where he works with clients to implement business development, communications, and public affairs strategies.”
IIRC, that would be Mr. Watts’ Lobby Firm…
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Chas lets looks at his logically. A stretch for you but if you concentrate hard I think you can do it.
Works with clients to implement business development: He looks at their current structure and suggests way they can implement a better business model that will be more profitable.
Business communications: Web site production, techinical communciations via phone, internet, and personal one on one communications.
Public affairs strategies: Hosting seminars, attending trade shows, etc.. In this the client might lobby but not Watts.
Comprende’
Vaughn this one does sound like a lobbying company. Or at least he uses his acquaintances to give his clients access to politicians both here and abroad.
I guess this is what politicians do when they retire. Maybe we need to outlaw lobbyists.
Isn’t it amazing that JC Watts has just had more investigating done on him than Obama did during his entire campaign?
Do the democrats here see the irony of this?
Yea, good idea… DO try logic… LOL
“As the largest African-American owned lobbying company in Washington, D.C., we are a certified Minority Business Enterprise (MBE) by the National Minority Supplier Development Council. Our client base includes Fortune 500, mid-market and small businesses, professional associations, athletic organizations, colleges and universities, health care providers, foreign governments, and non-profits to accomplish specific corporate and government relations assignments.”
http://www.wattsconsultinggroup.com/
Good to see you Vaughn.
“okobserver” states –
“…he raised himself out of a family that looks to be down near the bottom of the food chain.”
You’ve got that right!
His father was a Baptist preacher!
Can’t get much lower down the food chain than that!
tee-hee
That’s your beloved Julius Caesar Watts.
Ha!
Thanks, Sol; here for a brief diversion.
Chas when you wrote your first response you didn’t know the one VT wrote about existed. Don’t try to flame this early in the day.
And Monkey I didn’t name which family member I was talking about. You did mention ‘Chocolate’ I believe.
I mentioned Watts because he was denied admittance to the black caucus while in DC and many here have tried to personally destroy him. You people Chass, Monkey and VT in a way sure do like to change the subject.
Now your next assignment is to list the demos that are now in the lobbying business after leaving the house and senate. You can start with Tom Dashle, your past speaker of the house and his wife and go from there.
Good to see you VT …
On to the topic: I think part of the problem is that a black who gets elected to the House often has to be ‘black first’ to carry a district. That then narrows his ability to be more ‘plain vanilla’ which is often what it take to win statewide.
Ummmm… I didnt have to read VT’s link, to recognize the activities of a Lobby group that I referenced earlier. Besides, Monkey already mentioned it too… in his link… But, you deliberately chose to attack what I said, even though I knew what I was talking about… guess that sums you up fairly well…
Chas that group wasn’t mentioned in monkeys piece. You are spinning again as you did yesterday about questions that were asked of you but couldn’t be legally asked on any application.
The truth isn’t in you. Sorry that is just the way it is.
I do like Watts and think he should be allowed to live his own life. My point and I will make it again. Obama drew a pass when his was friends with a convicted felon that helped him buy his house, he announced his first senate campaign in the front room of an unrepentent terrorists, his minister of 20 years preached hate for our nation from his pulpit and Obama didn’t leave until under pressure.
This is the same party that didn’t know what the meaning of ‘is’ is. That say a man’s sex life is his own business.
But you will rake JC Watts over the coals because I brought his name up and mentioned how he was discriminated against by the black caucus.
The party of personal destruction. You will go after anyone that has sn ‘R’ after their name.
“okobserver” –
You didn’t mention “Chocolate.” (Nor did I; it was in the link I posted.)
No, you wrote:
“…he raised himself out of a family that looks to be down near the bottom of the food chain.”
Not a family member; you said “family.”
I simply agreed with you.
C’mon. Own up to your post upthread when you claimed Julius Caesar Watts wanted “…to spend time with his family and to get away from the political machine in Washington.”
First off: which family? His legitimate kids or all of ‘em?
And we all no there’s no better way “to get away from the political machine in Washington” than to get into the lobbying bidness.
Sometimes you’re such a joke, “okobserver.”
Donald Betts was a young African-American who “got it,” regarding the basic notion of civil rights for all.
On that basis alone, it’s a damn shame he lost. But he’s still young enough that his political career isn’t dead. As I recall, Toad Gingrich ran for his House seat 3 times before he finally won.
okie, you best stop before you get yourself all tied in knots again…. I didnt SAY that the Watts Consulting Agency was mentioned in Monkey’s link…. There you go with that reading problem again….
“Sheri Lynn Reed, an employee of Watts’s Esquire Management company in 1995, sued Watts when he failed to pay her salary. Ultimately she was awarded more than $13,000 in back wages and penalties.”
http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/Watts.html
So, what do you think ‘Esquire Management’ company is?? A magazine sales company??
And you say I cant READ??? I agree with Monkey — You are such a joke sometimes…
Have fun, y’all!! Daughter and I are headed for the store… gonna make a big batch of beef/noodles today… Yummmm… I can hardly wait…
Monkey there was no secret of the fact that he had a child while in college. Every Sooner fan knew that just as the Cowboy fan knew that Barry Sanders fathered a child in college.
Monkey you just refuse to address what I have said. Why were you attacking Watts. I brought him up and you were like ants at a picnic. Swarming.
Humor is always a good thing and if I have given you a laugh today so be it. This blog is worthless for having meaningful discussions anyway which is why I go to others when I really want to discuss something in depth.
Go back to the destruction. The dims do that so well.
P.S. Regarding the Senate senate, I think–if the people of Illinois are cool with it–Jackson wouldn’t be a bad pick. Neither would Tami Duckworth.
I don’t think politicians should be chosen because of their racial attributes, but considering the personal cultural awareness they bring to the table, having the non-WASP ratio increase by 1% is a good thing.
This coming from a WASFCNA! :)
Chas while there why don’t you pick up an application and look at the questions they ask. Then admitt that you just flat out lied.
I said it wasn’t in Monkey’s original piece and you just admitted it wasn’t. Obama had over 1000 young black people say that he only paid them about half of what they had coming. Get on that.
A new investigation for the left. How is that one on Rezko, Ayers, Rev Wright, Father Flager, etc…
Still waiting. Oh yes the election has been held now.
Yes, they only want certain kinds of blacks to make it. And why should the color of someones skin matter? You want it both ways, hey, everyone knows Obama was elected solely because he is black, he brought nothing else to the table. Sure, pop culture craze dictates that everything “black” and “ghetto” is cool, so Obama was on fire for 2 years, and still is.
But what cracks me up, is that they take winners like Clarence Thomas, and all but destroy the guys life.
Ya, I’m glad I’m white, I’d hate to have my own people turn on me because I stand for people working for a living and not making excuses for themselves.
One of my black conservative friends pretty much summed it up best when he said “sh*t, if it wasn’t for you white folks, I’d be sitting over in Africa picking bugs out of my hair and eating them.”
My “black” sometimes girlfriend also had a moment of brilliance when she said “what’s up with you white folks?” “When your kids start acting ghetto, WHY DON’T YOU BEAT THE SH*T OUT OF THEM!?” “I’m from there, nothing good is there, nothing good comes from it, it’s a world of hurt, loss, and suffering, why do the rich white kids glamorize it?” All I could muster up after the shock of what she said was “I dunno.”
We are flying backwards on racial progress in this country. The movement started out being about betterment, now it’s about making a chunk of the other’s just as bad, and calling it even.
It’s too bad, so sad actually. Their are a lot of white folks like me, who are labeled as racist, but all we really want is for black folks to have some pride, to know what a hard days work is, to not be in jail, to finish school and further their education/develope a skilled trade. For a majority, they do know these things, so by no means am I stereotyping all into one group, but too many of them don’t, too many white folks don’t nowdays. It’s sick, and we are on self destruct mode as a country.
I know a lot of drug addicts and drunks. When speaking with their families, spouses, and friends, the 1st thing we have to get through their heads is to stop enabeling them, cut them off, make them face the consequences of their actions. It will drive them to a turning point in their lives, where they are forced to choose, often times life, or death. Survival instincts usually win out, and people become willing to get help. The welfare state of this country is no different. Social Security is being bankrupted by able bodied people who know how to work them system. An abnormally large percentage of minorities are STILL going from generation to generation surviving by looting the public treasury. WE ARE LONG PAST THE POINT, WHERE IF WE TRUELY LOVE PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO CUT THEM OFF FOR THEIR OWN GOOD.
OKIE >>>>
So, what do you think ‘Esquire Management’ company is?? A magazine sales company??
“Rage” –
Lyndon Johnson said the reason he didn’t fire J. Edgar Hoover in 1964 was, “Sometimes you want ‘em inside the tent pissing out instead of outside the tent pissing in.”
I’m sort of in that mindset with Lieberman.
And with all the RepubliCONs ganging up on McCain for “not being conservative enough!” there’s pretty good chance the maverick will become the 60th vote against CONs’ fillibusters.
Sweet sweet irony.
McCain is the de facto leader of the “Gang of 14,” seven Democrats and seven Republic Party Senators who are smack dab in the middle of the political spectrum. There will be some party-line votes, sure. But most decisions will be made on philosophical votes.
The key issues facing the Homeland Security committee aren’t political, they’re practical. We have to figure out a way to inspect more containers shipped into our ports. Airport security needs to get less silly. Homeland security needs to be more vigilant regarding domestic terrorists such as those who bomb women’s clinics and shoot doctors.
Poor ol’ Joe is beholden to the Israeli hard-liners. I think Israel is more paranoid about Iran, Syria, and Saudi Arabia than they should be, but I’m sensitive to the mindset.
Most of the Holocaust happened because people simply couldn’t believe something like that was possible.
I don’t think the Islamists are going to bomb Jerusalem simply because it’s a holy city to Muslims, too.
Whether Iran gets a bomb or Saudi Arabia has a bomb or Pakistan gets really loony and uses their bomb… everyone on the planet know the United States will retaliate en masse.
Yeah, it might bring about the Apocalypse, but we’d do it. Even a Democrat would do it.
So it’s not gonna happen.
Israel needs to deal with local politics. For more than a thousand years Jews and Arabs lived side-by-side in Jerusalem. They still can even if they don’t like it all that much.
Sort of like how Democrats still live in Kansas.
take winners like Clarence Thomas, and all but destroy the guys life.
Clarence Thomas, a “winner.” Uh-huh. Maybe in the literal sense: he won.
But if affirmative action bothers you, I would simply point out that, were he white, there was no way in hell Poppy Bush would have seriously considered him for the Supreme Court.
Anybody notice how many “marines” seem to be attracted to We Blog??
Rage even those on the court say that he is very quiet but gives well thought out opinions when he does contribute.
He was treated very poorly. Anita Hill was a pawn set up to skewer him and it almost worked. Many liberals saw the action for what it was.
On the McCain/Liberman front I don’t see McCain as the filibuster stopper. I think that even if the dems have the super majority politics as usual has changed enough that it might not be that easy to push unpopular legislation forward.
I think the voter sent a clear message in 2006 when most liberals shifted and ran as moderates running to the right of center. Re-election is everything to a politiican.
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Chas
Posted November 18, 2008 at 12:43 pm | Permalink
OKIE >>>>
So, what do you think ‘Esquire Management’ company is?? A magazine sales company??
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I don’t know and really don’t care but since it is important to you why don’t you tell me.
Chass why do you keep avoiding the question about the applications you have filled out that asked those questions?
Granny spits out >>>>
“I don’t know and really don’t care but since it is important to you why don’t you tell me.
Chass why do you keep avoiding the question about the applications you have filled out that asked those questions?”
Esquire Management was one of J. C. Watts’ Lobby companies….
I have alreay answered your stupid questions about the applications I filled out that asked the questions…. Did you go try to look at any of the ones I posted??? I guess you didnt, or you wouldnt have your undies in a wad over it…
And besides, WITCH, YOU were the one tried to tell me Watts wasnt in the lobbying business…. I showed you he was!!
Make you feel dumb??? I hope so!!
Job apps arent supposed to demand a SSN either, but that doesnt stop them… With your name and SSN, they can run any kind of check they want…. Whether you approve it or not….
Monkey,
While you are picking on Republicans don’t forget the Emaciation Proclamation. Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act overwhelmingly, and by much higher percentages in both House and Senate than the Democrats. Democrats opposing included the current senator from West Virginia and former KKK member Robert C. Bryd and former Tennessee senator Al Gore, Senior. The 1964 Civil Rights Act became law only after overcoming a Democrat filibuster.
The two African-American women who were co-founders of the NAACP: Ida Wells and Mary Terrell were Republicans. Brown v. Board of Education, the 1954 Supreme Court decision that outlawed segregation in public schools, was written by Chief Justice Earl Warren, the three-term Republican governor of California appointed by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower.
Today just about all major urban areas are dominated by Democrats who have done very little which proves J.C. Watts allegations of civil rights leaders as “race-hustling poverty pimps”, whose careers he said depended on keeping blacks dependent on the government.” NO other social group votes so overwelhmingly Democratic. It is clear that blacks are kept as economic slaves to solidify their government power.
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