Some curiosities in the latest SurveyUSA poll of the presidential race in Kansas, which finds John McCain beating Barack Obama big 58 to 37 percent: Supporters of McCain include 21, 20 and 40 percent of Democrats, liberals and pro-choice voters, respectively (are they Hillary Clinton die-hards?). The margin is smallest (1 to 4 percentage points) among moderates and those who go to church only occasionally or “almost never,” don’t own a gun and already had voted when the poll was taken early last week for Wichita’s KWCH, Channel 12, and Kansas City’s KCTV.
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Now that I looked at the data, 58-37 seems off. The margin might be smaller. It does not appear that the SurveyUSA team captured a representative sampling of what we’re actually going to see at the polling place. Did they call anyone in Kansas City or Wichita? They might have tried, but I don’t see anything in the polling data to suggest that the urban citizenry participated much.
When I read The Eagle each day, though, it’s clear that Wichitans are definitely going to the polls.
It should be noted that the Kansas City Star endorsed Barack Obama.
“It should be noted that the Kansas City Star endorsed Barack Obama.” — Royall
So do I.
I would be tempted to ask about these ‘poll’ numbers, “What is Wrong With Kansas.” But instead, why don’t we say, “Let’s wait 72 hours or so” for the real poll.
On another issue, did I miss something, or has the Eagle not endorsed a candidate for President?
What?
NO thread on how Sarah Palin got punked and pwned by a couple of Canadian disc jockeys?
You all are missing what is gonna be THE story on Monday among all the shows.
Bluejay, that’s been covered on the Open Thread.
Hmm, interesting figures in Kansas:
More college educated, Hispanic, voters 18-49 and in all regions are voting for McCain.
Pretty much destroys the stereotypical voting assignment duh Libs put on Republican voters and who they are.
Kansas…well, sucks.
It has been my misfortune to have been born and lived all my life in this embarrassing backwater.
If there is a bright center of the universe, Kansas is the place it is farthest from.
When I have traveled and people ask me where I am from? When I tell them I am from Kansas, I almost want to apologize.
blessie lil heart junior…
awww…
(chortles)
Hmm, interesting figures in Kansas:
More blue collar, white male, voters 18-49 and in all regions are voting for Obama.
Pretty much destroys the stereotypical voting assignment duh Cons put on Republican voters and who they are.
Gee that’s easy!
mxyzptlk
Posted November 2, 2008 at 7:59 am | Permalink
Hmm, interesting figures in Kansas:
More blue collar, white male, voters 18-49 and in all regions are voting for Obama.
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Really?
Odd, I didn’t see a blue collar category on there.
Perhaps, you didn’t realize that lots of voters make 50K a year and less that aren’t blue collar.
Or perhaps you just have a problem with interpreted anything statistical?
(chortles)
Don’t fall asleep in church this AM Reggie!
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mxyzptlk
Posted November 2, 2008 at 8:11 am | Permalink
Don’t fall asleep in church this AM Reggie!
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I always claim I’m praying. :)
Yep, and they’ll elect good old boy Pat Roberts as well. Pat, as anyone with any intelligence at all knows, is bush jr. and will continue his same creed. So, from reading the poll data, it seems that even educated Kansans don’t understand the difference between more bush years and a failed economy. In other words: you just can’t fix stupid.
Palin gettin’ punked. What a bimbo.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27491253#27491253
Whats wrong with Kansas? Better to ask what’s wrong with Massachusetts or Oregon or any number of disgustingly liberal States that will overwhelmingly vote for Obama. That have little or no Republican representation in Congress. Whose citizens continually vote against their own interests. What in the world is wrong with people?
Excuse me, Chrissy?
Are you rich?
Why do YOU vote Republican? They clearly don’t help you with your writing and sentence structure.
What IS it they do for you?
Moron.
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Chrisfrommactown
Posted November 2, 2008 at 8:59 am | Permalink
Whats wrong with Kansas? Better to ask what’s wrong with Massachusetts or Oregon or any number of disgustingly liberal States that will overwhelmingly vote for Obama. That have little or no Republican representation in Congress. Whose citizens continually vote against their own interests. What in the world is wrong with people?
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If you take a look at this country and what Bush has done to it in eight years, you would be asking what’s wrong with the people voting for McCain, not the other way around.
chrisfromactown
typical kansas white trash
Its racism, pure and simple. Kansas has a large number of older voters, and they are downright racist.
Now obviously that doesn’t apply to everyone, but that’s a big part of it.
I’m seeing racism more than ever in my new job. I’m quite proud of my company’s policy and how we handle it though.
The old coots can’t live forever. Let’s hope they take their prejudices with them when they depart.
Chris, I had the fun of listening to people like you on the radio yesterday on my way to Wichita.
at least one caller was honest and said we needed to make the constitution reflect the bible. It would be refreshing if the rest of you would just come out and say that you hate America’s constitution that way.
Newt I tried to listen but it is just too painful!
I mean what V.P. nominees would actually think they were receiving a call from a foreign President? Right off they should have know it was not true. V.P.s are not that important to begin with and being just an nominee is lower than that! John McCain yes, Obama yes maybe even Biden since he may have actually met the President of France. But sorry Sarah you just an’t up in that league yet!
It’s great to see that Kansas is right up there with such enlightened states as Alabama and Arkansas and Oklahoma.
Hell, even West Virginia is in play.
But not Kansas.
Capn, you missed including Texas.
What if….
McCain had a heart attack today? Not die but had to be rushed to the hospital.
I wonder how that would affect the outcome even here in Kansas.
In defense of Alabama, at least mccain is working for them to get airbus tanker work. Kansans not so much, guess they’d like to see bama get the work too!
It looks like most Kansans are getting it RIGHT on this one. Great State
Going to be surrounded by repub whiners for the next 8 yrs., enjoy.
Heh, too bad McCain can’t count on Arizona:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/11/open-thread-112-3/#comment-461348
http://electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Graphs/arizona.html
It’ll be good seeing all to repubs standing in line to cast their votes on the national election, knowing they are wasting their time and effort!
Newt I tried to listen but it is just too painful!
Dog, the main highlights (or lowlights):
1. She didn’t question the ridiculous, exagerrated French accent.
2.’Sarkozy’ named a singer as Canadian prime minister instead of Stephen Harper. Palin bought it.
3. ‘Sarkozy’ told her he really liked the documetary about her, “Huster’s Nailin’ Paylin. She seemed a little befuddled, but no indication she grasped what was just said.
In short, their approach was acidly satirical from start-to-finish, and anyone of even normal intelligence could have guessed pretty quickly that something was not right.
Rage I have to agree it was up there with no knowing what she reads. LOL I answered the phone one night at work. 3 A.M. and the caller said he was Howard Stein:
Hey what is happening?
Oh nothing much happens at 3 A.M. here.
What you doing?
Standing here talking to you, who are you?
I told you I am Howard Stein.
Oh and who are you?
You have never heard of me?
( I knew that there was not much likelihood that Howard Stein would be calling a Wal-Mart in a small town in Kansas. But then could anyone put it pass him if he thought it would be funny?)
“Oh now I remember, you are the guy they caught butt naked having sex with a horse!
( I heard laughter in the background noises)
Ahh no that was not me!
Oh and you should have listened in the night some guy called pretending he was a teenager wanting information on which kind of condom is best for anal sex!
“Which kind of condom do you like when having sex?”.
“Oh I have never had sex but I have read a lot of books about it!”
“Which kind of condom is best for anal sex?”.
“Is this the first gay encounter you have had?”
“I AM NOT GAY!!!!!”
It snow balled from there..
But boy I would guess her head did swell thinking she was suddenly so important that the President of France would be calling to talk to her!
Again, I’ll be surprised if the October 29 SurveyUSA poll proves to be an accurate predictor of voting behavior this election. I don’t know what the final numbers will look like, but 58 to 37 is off. As early voting has demonstrated nationally, some of the groups are getting out in larger numbers than expected and wrecking the models. The McCain team has been struggling for the past two months, across the country, to establish a message that solidifies core conservatives without alienating “independents” and moderates. The incendiary tactics especially may be pushing some moderates toward Obama and shoring up Obama’s support, motivating his people. I haven’t watched hardly any TV in the last 48 hours, but friends have told me that some of this hard-hitting stuff is now running locally. If the 58 to 37 number is worth anything, you have to assess why the players in question would risk alienating more moderates. Did they think it all the way through? Or are they getting needlessly nervous? The Kansas model is different than a swing state model, which might suggest that the ads do not carry as much of a risk.
But supporters of Barack Obama should get out and vote. Send a message that McCain’s campaign tactics–as well as the tactics of his allies–are not acceptable.
I saw a Rev. Wright ad tonight by a repub group. Bad taste, and shows desperation this close to election. And, why on earth run it in Kansas?
With all the gnashing of teeth McCain and Palin have done about the Rev Wright video – do they not even think that people of average intelligence is going to compare Rev Wright to Rev Pat Robertson for all the crazy talk that has come from his big mouth?
Pat Robertson advocated for murder of foreign leaders he deems ‘evil’ and even told his followers to pray for the untimely deaths of certain Supreme Court justices he deems ‘evil’.
And let’s not forget the many hateful and racist remarks being yelled out at the rallies of McCain and Palin. Their supporters are yelling ‘kill him’ and Palin did nothing about it. These two have instigated this hate speech and then take delight when their crowd responds. These two have even gone so far as to say certain parts of a state are ‘communist’ and who are true Americans and who are not true Americans.
What type of people have McCain and Palin become? All this hate and nastiness is just going to backfire on them and it appears to be doing just that.
The saddest and most pathetic part of all of this is the fact that the Republican Party claims to be the party of God. Yeah, right.