Gates should be a go, Clinton a halt

Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan joins the “keep Defense Secretary Robert Gates” crowd: “He is a bipartisan figure of respect – truly an object of across-the-board admiration. He is not part of the old crew that got us into war and bungled it but the new crew that stabilized it and created progress.” But Noonan sounds the alarm on would-be Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. “To invite in the Clintons – and it’s always the Clintons, never a Clinton – is to invite in, to summon, drama that will never end. Ever.”

19 Comments

  1. RightAngle
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    I love the Change it looks like the same old thing.

  2. Mary_Caruso
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    What’s wrong with “the Clintons”? I think Bill would make a great SOS…and if he’s in the position of being an advisor to Hilary…that’s OK, too.
    Either one of them will do a good job.

  3. Royall
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    Noonan, like a lot of conservatives, is biased against Clinton to the point that it tends to cloud her judgment. Opponents of this deal are convinced that Clinton will be too controversial, that she won’t be a team player, and that she’ll be scheming against Obama. Assuming that politicians, like most people, do try to serve their own best interests as much as possible, however, it’s hard to see how Clinton would benefit from being a lousy Secretary of State. If she comes to be viewed as a liability in the Obama administration for the aforementioned reasons, then that only makes Clinton look bad and does not play well for her politically at all. Clinton would have to be stupid to fall for these traps, and stupid she is not. Her only path here is to strive to be a first-rate Secretary of State. Now, I don’t doubt that American foreign policy is going to be rigorously debated in the coming administration. It has been made clear that Clinton will have direct access to Obama. Good. Biden will also have direct access to the president. Let the dialogue begin. If one person knew everything about everything, you wouldn’t need a democratic system in the first place. So I look for Clinton to strive for excellence and she has a chance to be very good at this.

  4. george
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Hillary will work and Bill will play with the ladies as usual.

  5. lindainks55
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    “I love the Change it looks like the same old thing.” — RightAngle
    ————–

    The change needed was away from bush — everything of his administration needs to be changed. Change back to the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years is a great change!

    It’s good to be an American again!

  6. JMWalker
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    The fun is about to start. The Republicans will be so tied up in slamming Hillary’s every move, they will totally forget about getting their collective s&&t together for 2012. Will the “fairness doctrine” apply to their slamming Hillary? Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

  7. Political_mama
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Obama can’t win with the cons, and he shouldn’t try either. THey ran this country into the ground. If Obama had picked new untested people the cons would be screaming that he doesnt’ know what he’s doing.

    Rhonda’s choice of words for this heading aren’t surprising as I feel she likely support’s that nasty Noonan’s position.

    The only drama that came from the Clintons is that which the cons concocted.

  8. lindainks55
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    Look t how much Republicans have learned from the last two elections! I am totally psyched about their choices. GO PALIN! Sarah 2012! ;-)

    Polling on 2012 Starting

    Barack Obama won’t even be inaugurated for 2 months and the race for 2012 is already on. Gallup ran a poll among Republicans and Republican leaners asking which candidates they wanted to see run in 2012. Here are the results.

    Candidate Yes No No opinion
    Sarah Palin 67% 30% 3%
    Mitt Romney 62% 32% 5%
    Mike Huckabee 61% 33% 6%
    David Petraeus 49% 39% 12%
    Rudy Giuliani 48% 47% 5%
    Newt Gingrich 47% 48% 5%
    Bobby Jindal 34% 36% 30%
    Jeb Bush 31% 61% 9%
    Charlie Crist 23% 46% 31%
    Lindsey Graham 21% 53% 25%

    The candidate Republicans most want to see run in 2012 is Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK).

    http://electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Maps/Nov22.html

  9. Political_mama
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    You know, Begging Sarah to run, its almost like egging on the mentally handicapped kid. We really should not encourage it.

  10. BlueJay
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Um yeah.

    Rhonda?

    Peggy?

    We uh, don’t need or really want your input on OUR administration, ‘k?

    Thanks anyway. Shouldn’t you all be trying to gather the pieces of your broken party?

  11. Phantom
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Gates should go, Clinton will halt the insanity of our foreign policy.

  12. Phantom
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    The RW will be so focused on Clinton hating/bashing that Obama and the congress will get through the changes this country so desperately needs.
    I’m encouraged to see Obama is starting to step up out of the shadows, the country can no longer afford to wait even two more months to know that help is on the way!
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081122/pl_nm/us_usa_obama_35

  13. Posted November 22, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    I can see it now —- Hannity will start in AGAIN on Vince Foster being murdered… his favorite Clinton bash… He has been proven wrong so many times….

    Reminds me of the blonde in the bar… while watching the news on TV, she bets with some guy that the man on the roof WONT jump… man on the roof jumps…

    She pulls out her money to pay off the bet… the man confesses he saw the story on the early news…. She says, Well, so did I, but I thought it might be different this time….

    THATS the mentality of Hannity!!

  14. RightAngle
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Why would Robert Gates want to be the Defense Secretary during the time frame when the United States surrenders the war and admits defeat.

  15. Pedant
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    RightAngle
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
    Why would Robert Gates want to be the Defense Secretary during the time frame when the United States surrenders the war and admits defeat.

    If he cares about his country (and I think he obviously does), then it seems to me that “when the United States surrenders the war and admits defeat” is the time when he’s needed most.

    I think that if he was as small-minded as you — as evident in your premise, that Gates would put his own ego ahead of the good of the country — he’d have shown himself to be unfit for public service long ago.

  16. bth
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Hillary as SoS; Bill as a full-time negotiator in the Middle East. He is one person who has maintained credibility with the countries in the region. Maybe he can salvage Bush’s abject failure “road-map”

  17. Regular
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Bill Clinton, recognized in more bed rooms with his pants down than any human alive.

  18. Pedant
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Interesting, Bill-o does have a few things in common with Ben Franklin, not the least of which is a profound fondness of female company, lol. That ol’ rooster!

    Well. Maybe Bill can love his way through “Old Europe” and into treasuries of the larger variety, via lingerie of the “any” variety.

    Go Bill!

  19. BlueJay
    Posted November 22, 2008 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    This looks like Peggy trying to redeem herself to the cons after she got caught (correctly) calling the Palin pick a mistake.

    Quoth Peggy on that “It’s over!”

    The cons HATE the Clintons. SO Peggy is trying to pander to win favor again.

    The thing I wonder is, why? So they can kick her teeth in again the next time she is right and they are wrong?