The same day Barack Obama tapped as his running mate Joe Biden, the famously verbose Delaware senator who’s been in the Senate since Obama was 11, the Republican National Committee launched a Web site to monitor Biden’s future gaffes. Biden has blundered badly several times in the last several days, often on issues relating to the economy. He’s been caught contradicting his running mate, which is among every political ticket’s 10 commandments of no-nos. And on one occasion, he got his facts wrong. With voters closely watching and worrying about the financial crisis, these inconsistencies could have real consequences come Nov. 4, now less than five weeks away. — Kate Linthicum, Los Angeles Times blogs
When Joe Biden described an Obama ad attacking John McCain’s inability to use a computer as “terrible,” the world acted as if the Joe-pocalypse had finally arrived. Jonathan Martin of Politico called it “perhaps his most off-message statement yet.” Newsday dubbed him “gaffe-a-minute Joe.” National Review’s Victor Davis Hanson said it raised “serious concern whether Biden is up to the job.” Please. Biden’s blunder couldn’t matter less. Not because gaffes never matter — they can, if they play into public perceptions of the candidate’s character — but because Biden is gaffe-proof. Whatever traps he sets for himself, however many minorities he offends, he always seems to wriggle out. It’s almost as if, by committing so many gaffes, he has become immune to their effects. “Joe Biden Makes Gaffe” is the new “Dog Bites Man.” — Christopher Beam, Slate

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Ho boy, the VP debate should provide SNL with enough material for the rest of the year.
If there is one thing I like about Biden, it is that he does speak his mind. He doesn’t seem to be walking on eggshells worrying about “offending minorities”.
And it does seem to be true that no one cares much about Biden’s misstatements. I think it is because he has a lot more substance than the top of the ticket. In fact, Obama should be criticized for not always agreeing with Joe.
Biden is a hopeless far left liberal who I could never support, but he is a good guy.
Of course, I should point out that if Joe Biden were a Republican and had made the same gaffes and goofs, he would have been labeled a racist nitwit and his political career would be over.
But, since he is a Democrat, we in the media, the seers of the intent of the heart, know that it was always just a simple slip of the tongue.
Out…you are so correct on that. Sarah can make one error, and the harpies attack like there is no tomorrow. Biden misspeaks multiple times, and it is pretty much ignored.
Interesting.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76645
Looks like little ol’ Gwen has an economic interest in a Obama victory next month.
I wonder if lil Sarah Palin will even SEE her children today?
Her pregnant teenage daughter, her special needs baby, and other assorted kids? Are they with her in seclusion for debate prep?
Will she even have time to call them in between the lessons?
I wonder how much Obama saw his children last week while screwing up the bailout and preparing for his debate.
Where are his kids? Are they hidden? Where’s Michele? Where have they hid her?
Kinda sexist aren’t you, junior?
Why JR, you sexist pig!
Not exactly on point, but JR’s sexism is an illustration, like the media’s kid glove treatment of Joe Biden, that with the left and the MSM, ideology trumps principle. Every time.
You can bet that even if Sarah Palin is too busy being frantically schooled not to make a blithering idiot of herself that her pregnant teenage daughter and the baby daddy are being kept a careful eye on by…somebody. Mom is too busy but they are being watched. They’re needed later.
Word is, a shotgun wedding between the young teens is being staged as a media event to sell the McCain/Palin ticket.
Hey if ya can’t be there for your kids? Well at least you can use them as political aids!
Biden is a far left buffoon. In a previous campaign, he lied about his achievements in law school. Biden has been exactly wrong on foreign policy issues through out his career.
Biden is a millstone that will weigh down and sink the Obama cruise ship.
Sexist?
That’s a strange charge to make against me outlander.
I was for Senator Clinton or have you forgotten?
nice attempt at diversion…this thread starts out examining how biden is screwing up..and bj wants to turn it into yet another attack on Sarah.
Per usual, Junior’s posts show his idiocy.
“Looks like little ol’ Gwen has an economic interest in a Obama victory next month.”
Right, World Nut Daily.
Gwen is an excellent journalist and an even handed moderator. World Nut Daily writers, not so much.
Biden’t gaffes?
He told a guy in a wheelchair to stand up?
Yeah, george bush WAVED at Stevie Wonder!
Barack Obama is right about one thing. Silly season never ends with the cons.
Now the teenage daughter of a United States governor getting herself pregnant? I wanna know how young Levi pulled that one off.
“Not exactly on point, but JR’s sexism is an illustration, like the media’s kid glove treatment of Joe Biden, that with the left and the MSM, ideology trumps principle. Every time.”
See, here we have the familiar whine: “The MSM is out to get us!” Bullsh*t. Why is the media treating Biden with kid gloves? Please. The media isn’t treating Joe Biden with much of anything at all. I find it hilarious that not getting attention from the media is being treated with kid gloves for Biden, getting attention from the “MSM” is being attacked by the media for Palin, getting attention from the “MSM” is being endorsed by the media for Obama, and either not getting attention or getting attention from the “MSM” is being ignored or attacked by the media for McCain. It is a childishly transparent attempt to poison the well by the right, and true believers like outlander just uncritically echo that nonsense. And where do they get it from?
The media, there own and sometimes even the “MSM” will relay it for them.
The media pays attention to those individuals who best sell commercial time or papers or magazines or website hits. Obama and Palin have generally attracted more interest than McCain and especially Biden. That, not political bias, is the best supported explanation for differences in coverage.
“There own” should, of course, be “their own”.
That, not political bias, is the best supported explanation for differences in coverage.
The jawless fish deposits a rather large load on the pathway of truth.
“Gwen is an excellent journalist and an even handed moderator. World Nut Daily writers, not so much.”
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That the best you got Aggie? Gwen Ifill has put her heart and soul into writing a book about Obama, and will be able to cash in big time if he wins the presidency. If he is not, the first printing is in the discount bin, if it get’s published at all. Talk about a conflict!
Now Iffel may be “an excellent journalist and an even handed moderator” but she has a blatant conflict that undercuts her credibility. Ethically, she should have never agreed to moderate the debate.
Making fun of “cons” is pretty much expected, they have a little thicker skin than liberals.
Makin fun of a libtard usually evokes “pitty” as they are ALWAYS a victim.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/bushwave.asp
Bush didn’t wave at Stevie Wonder.
Stand up, Chuck!
A good point Agnatha.
Ya can’t whine about attention when it comes from both directions.
John McCain holds a rally, he gets a few hundred people.
Oh but let him bring Sarah Palin along and thousands come out.
SO when we hear so loudly the chants of “Saruh!saRUH!” well we are naturally drawn to look closer and see just what it is gets so much attention.
The Dems get a free pass on just about everything by the press. Serious Policy errors, as well as idiotic trivial gaffes.
The Dem presidential candidates are deemed to have an edge on the economy by most polls. However, the fact that the Dems are much more tied to Fannie and Freddie Mae then the Republicans is not fettered out to the masses via the MSM.
That’s okay. Vote for Obama. More of the Same disguised as Change.
Looks like the CONs are out early and in full force with all the memes they rely on.
Y’know, if you guys didn’t spend every day on this form branding anyone who makes you cranky as liberal-left-wing-socialist-leftist-commie-pinko-cheese-eating-latte-swilling-loafer-wearing-Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-5th-columnist-traitor-French-loving-terrorist-coddling-extremist-44%-Arab-flag-hating-god-hating-ACLU-oppressors-of-”true”-christians-satanist-collectivist-Democrats, you might have a semblance of credibility.
All you end up getting is the reputation to be angry, inarticulate white folks in Kansas.
To much cryin’ “wolf,” CONs.
Biden occassionally makes a screw up when he speaks, Palin just doesn’t make sense when she speaks. There’s quite a difference, however, it may be too subtle for cons. to pick up on!
Senator Obama is ‘clean and articulate.’
- Joe Biden
Y’know, if you guys didn’t spend every day on this form branding anyone who makes you cranky as liberal-left-wing-socialist-leftist-commie-pinko-cheese-eating-latte-swilling-loafer-wearing-Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-5th-columnist-traitor-French-loving-terrorist-coddling-extremist-44%-Arab-flag-hating-god-hating-ACLU-oppressors-of-”true”-christians-satanist-collectivist-Democrats, you might have a semblance of credibility.
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You forgot sprout eating candy ass.
Bush did tell a reporter that was partially blind to take off those ridiculous shades if he wanted to ask him a serious question, or something to that effect.
Yes, Obama is ‘clean and articulate’, Palin is ‘clean and inarticulate’.
ANTI- You forgot sprout eating candy ass.
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I thought it was Gay-tree huggin’-sprout-eatin’-no fur wearin’-candy ass.
That to
Comedy Central’s Stephen Colbert was prepared in his fake-pundit persona to cheer on the House Republicans who, he explained, had said, “Thanks but no thanks on that bailout to nowhere.”
But even Colbert had to acknowledge that “the supporters of this bill wouldn’t shut up about how this is the end of the world.”
“So just why did a free market president like Bush propose a government bailout in the first place?” asked Colbert.
“The market is not functioning properly,” Bush stated in a recent appearance.
“The market is fine,” Colbert objected. “We are the ones who are not functioning properly.” He went on to explain that “the free market is not just some economic theory we can abandon when things get rough. It requires faith.”
Colbert continued expanding on the idea of faith, saying, “It is a lot like believing in another all-powerful being — God. The market is all around us. … It guides us with an invisible hand. … Like God, if we have faith in it, the free market is the answer to all our problems — but if we doubt it, it will withhold its precious gifts.”
“Some out there, folks, are going to say that this financial meltdown shows the market is fallible — that it is, in fact, not God,” cautioned Colbert. However, he insisted, “It does not mean that the market is not God. It means that the market is just a dangerous and destructive god. …Maybe the market isn’t like the Judaeo-Christian god at all. It might be a blindly vengeful god, with a thousand hungry mouths.”
“We must believe even harder!” thundered Colbert in a sermon-like conclusion. “Our god demands sacrifice! And I don’t mean regulation, I mean human flesh!”
“It’s gobbling Wall Street firm by firm, and it’s still hungry,” he proclaimed. “I say we feed it Main Street! … Being eaten alive by the market is better than admitting the government should have any role!”
“Thanks to the House Republicans, we are in the market’s hands,” concluded Colbert, “and it will take care of us only if we trust it.”
Libs look to comedians for worldly insight.
No, “ANTI” –
We look to CONs for laughs.
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 1, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink
No, “ANTI” –
We look to CONs for laughs.
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And if you want to cry…
Look to a liberal…
You can cry right along with them…
miserable lot.
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 1, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink
No, “ANTI” –
We look to CONs for laughs.
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I look at the Democrat controlled congress for BIG LAUGHS!
Fundamentalists blame Wall Street’s woes on gays
Christian fundamentalists are suggesting gays and lesbians are to blame for Wall Street’s woes, a frequently made charge in the wake of national calamities.
In a September 25th blog post titled ‘The Nation Will Right Itself If It Fixes Sex’, Christian Civil League of Maine Executive Director Michael Heath writes that the financial crisis facing Wall Street is a symptom of America’s sinful sexual culture, including the acceptance of gay unions.
“Our crisis is a symptom, not the cause,” writes Michael Heath. “I am not saying I know whether this financial crisis is God’s judgment or not.”
You can’t make this stuff.
Well. CONs can, but I certainly couldn’t.
“Make no mistake about this, Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight.”
- Joe Biden
ANTI
Posted October 1, 2008 at 10:00 am | Permalink
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 1, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink
No, “ANTI” –
We look to CONs for laughs.
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I look at the Democrat controlled congress for BIG LAUGHS!
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Yeah, that Pelosi……..
quite the little leader there….
40% of her own voted against her?
Biden Championed bill in 2005 to help Credit Card Buddies
BAPCPA “is directly responsible for the rising foreclosure rate since the end of 2005,” concluded a 2007 study by Credit Suisse. The law “increased foreclosures and the number of homes for sale,” echoed a July 2008 study by U.S. Treasury researcher David Bernstein. That study estimated the law had pushed foreclosures or forced sales on 200,000 homeowners since it went into effect, but noted that was a rough, “back-of-the-envelope” calculation…
The bill was backed by banks and credit card companies including MBNA, which is headquartered in Delaware, Biden’s home state. They wanted the bill because it would make it harder for Americans to use bankruptcy to avoid repaying credit card debt. MBNA executives had been Biden’s single largest source of campaign donations, and MBNA has employed Biden’s son Hunter as a company executive, lobbyist and consultant. The Obama campaign has said Hunter Biden did no work for MBNA on the bankruptcy bill. MBNA has since been bought by Bank of America.
Over the past two years, sub-prime mortgage borrowing and a weakening economy have pushed increasing numbers of Americans into dire financial straits. Under the old rules, many could have declared bankruptcy, shed much of their debt, restructured their mortgages and held onto their homes, according to experts and the two reports.
But the 2005 law Biden championed made it more expensive and more difficult to declare bankruptcy, experts conclude. That forced hundreds of thousands of distressed homeowners to sell their homes, or default on their mortgages, after which the bank would sell their former home, according to the studies. That flood of homes going up for sale in an already-weakening market further depressed home prices, according to the two reports, snowballing into the current crisis.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/biden-bill-to-blame-for-foreclosure-crisis
“Make no mistake about this, Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight.”
- Joe Biden
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Now that is funny! Eh, “Monkeyhawk”?
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 1, 2008 at 10:01 am | Permalink
Fundamentalists blame Wall Street’s woes on gays
Christian fundamentalists are suggesting gays and lesbians are to blame for Wall Street’s woes, a frequently made charge in the wake of national calamities.
In a September 25th blog post titled ‘The Nation Will Right Itself If It Fixes Sex’, Christian Civil League of Maine Executive Director Michael Heath writes that the financial crisis facing Wall Street is a symptom of America’s sinful sexual culture, including the acceptance of gay unions.
“Our crisis is a symptom, not the cause,” writes Michael Heath. “I am not saying I know whether this financial crisis is God’s judgment or not.”
You can’t make this stuff.
Well. CONs can, but I certainly couldn’t.
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That is just as looney as the Libtards saying it was the Republicans fault.
House Speaker reportedly gave $100G in political donations to husband’s firm over past 10 years.
That one’s a gas!
Finesteins committee gave several no bid contracts to her family business headed by her husband.
Here is a good one.
Hey Dumborats!
Since you lost two elections running a Whacko, and a fake war hero, let’s try a community organizer from chicago….
I crack my self up!
Senator Feinstein’s Iraq Conflict
As a member of the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee, Sen. Feinstein voted for appropriations worth billions to her husband’s firms
By Peter Byrne
In the November 2006 election, the voters demanded congressional ethics reform. And so, the newly appointed chairman of the Senate Rules Committee, Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., is now duly in charge of regulating the ethical behavior of her colleagues. But for many years, Feinstein has been beset by her own ethical conflict of interest, say congressional ethics experts.
As chairperson and ranking member of the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee (MILCON) from 2001 through the end of 2005, Feinstein supervised the appropriation of billions of dollars a year for specific military construction projects. Two defense contractors whose interests were largely controlled by her husband, financier Richard C. Blum, benefited from decisions made by Feinstein as leader of this powerful subcommittee.
http://www.metroactive.com/feinstein/
How many of you saw anything about this in the MSM? This is a bigger problem than Haliburton and the media just forgot to mention it.
Biased1 you are cracking me up. Somethings are too funny to even print. Which could be why the MSM never tells us about them and we have to find out from the oversight committee.
A laugh a minute. Oh to be a dim-wit and live in their la-la land world.
Looks like Iliff the moderator needs material for her book. If Obama loses, Iliff the moderator can see her new book flop. It looks like a non neutral moderator of the debate. Too bad they didn’t disclose this in advance.
“But the 2005 law Biden championed made it more expensive and more difficult to declare bankruptcy, experts conclude. That forced hundreds of thousands of distressed homeowners to sell their homes, or default on their mortgages, after which the bank would sell their former home, according to the studies. That flood of homes going up for sale in an already-weakening market further depressed home prices, according to the two reports, snowballing into the current crisis.”
I don;t beleive it. Biden and the Democratic party are for the “little guy”. Right?
“Like a lot of my Democratic colleagues I was too slow to appreciate the recklessness of Fannie and Freddie. I defended their efforts to encourage affordable homeownership when in retrospect I should have heeded the concerns raised by their regulator in 2004. Frankly, I wish my Democratic colleagues would admit when it comes to Fannie and Freddie, we were wrong. By the way, I wish my Republican colleagues would admit that they missed the early warning signs, that Wall Street deregulation was overheating the securities market and promoting dangerously lax lending practices. When it comes to the debacle in our capital markets, there is much blame to go around for both sides.”
-Rep. Artur Davis, D-Ala
I don;t beleive it. Biden and the Democratic party are for the “little guy”. Right?
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Bad for Americans = Good for Dumborats
Have to keep them at the community troughs, or the troughs are no longer needed…..
Sarah Palin told Katie Couric that voters are going to have to decide between “new energy” and “new ideas” on one side, or “many, many years in the Senate” on the other. Obama vs. McCain? No, she was talking about Palin vs. Biden, seemingly unaware of the dynamic at the top of the ticket.
CBS just sent out a transcript from this morning’s “Early Show,” in which Palin touched on a very similar theme.
COURIC: I know you’re heading to Sedona to work on your debate. What is your coach advising you?
PALIN: I don’t have a debate coach.
COURIC: Well, what are your coaches?
PALIN: I have quite a few people who are giving us information about the record of Obama and Biden, and at the end of the day, though, it is — it’s so clear, again, what those choices are. Either new ideas, new energy and reform of Washington, DC, or more of the same.
First, if she doesn’t have debate coaches, I’m the Heavyweight Champion of the World.
Second, and more importantly, Palin seems strikingly unaware of what this campaign is all about. As she sees it, John McCain represents “new ideas” and “new energy,” while Barack Obama represents “more of the same.”
As someone who reads “all” newspapers, Palin might have noticed that she has this entirely backwards, and isn’t exactly helping her ticket’s cause by dismissing “more of the same.” Indeed, McCain/Palin agrees with Bush/Cheney on foreign policy, national security, economic policy, taxes, healthcare, energy, education, the environment, the federal judiciary, immigration, and the culture-war issues. Indeed, McCain has personally boasted about voting with Bush 90% of the time, and has insisted, “[O]n the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.”
Who, exactly, is “more of the same”?
I sometimes feel as if Palin’s candidacy is some kind of satirical performance art, and I’m just not in on the joke. — Steve Benen
Regular – I would think you should be praising Biden for making it harder for people to declare bankruptcy and keeping their houses. After all, those people were the ones that got themselves into trouble and why should taxpayers bail them out?
So are you for making people suffer the consequences of their own making or are you for banks and corporations suffering the losses from such easy bankruptcies like previous?
do you WANT to go back to the old rules before Biden’s bill?
mom
Posted October 1, 2008 at 10:42 am | Permalink
Regular – I would think you should be praising Biden for making it harder for people to declare bankruptcy and keeping their houses. After all, those people were the ones that got themselves into trouble and why should taxpayers bail them out?
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Oh, I’m all for making it harder for people declaring bankruptcy, but not at the cost of losing their houses.
What if the breadwinner of a family gets sick and has high medical bills? Since the family is having difficulty making the mortgage payment, they should lose their home?
I’m hard-nosed, but I’m not as cruel as Senator Biden.
Sarah Palin is fulfilling her duty as window dressing for McCain. It does not matter that she seems to not comprehend the issues or the consequences of what she says. She is only there to throw out the one-liners and the talking point soundbites of the campaign.
What I found interesting though was the fact that she told Katie Couric that her life is an open book. If so, then why is Palin refusing to cooperate with the Troopergate investigation? If she has done nothing wrong, then let the chips fall where they may. Besides, the Republicans outnumber the Democrats on the investigation inquiry board – so what is she afraid of?
I think you give yourself too much credit Regular.
So you acknowledge alot of bankruptcies are due to high medical bills? So why not fix the health care problem also? Or are you against that too?
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mom
Posted October 1, 2008 at 10:49 am | Permalink
I think you give yourself too much credit Regular.
So you acknowledge alot of bankruptcies are due to high medical bills? So why not fix the health care problem also? Or are you against that too?
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Irrelevant to the initial question, but a nice try at arm flailing.
It could have been that the family went bust due to bad weather (farming) or their business failed when a highway was re-routed around them or many other things.
Do try and pay attention mom. I know it’s hard, but try to keep focused.
It’s hard to see how he can make all of those gaffes, when his IQ is so high. And if you don’t believe it, here it is from Joe himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyEqyYUGk4I
The basics of a Joe Biden gaffe, explained here:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/dems-have-set-up-palin-to-win-debate/#comment-436023
Thanks for the link, “Rage” –
It reminded me of something I cut-and-posted that day. I think it’s funny and deserves a replay.
QUESTION: And, just so I get it right, what’s the correct spelling of your name?
MOOSE-DRESSER: Oh, you know… pretty much the way you would. It’s a very common name, you know, not — I mean a lot of people have heard one like it. I spell it the same way I always, the way my mother taught me, just like you and everybody else. There’s this, you know, crazy perception that we, Alaska, you know we spell just like everyone does. It’s not this strange foreign country unlike Washington. But, you know, like, I, you know, I get it–this gotcha journalism we all have to deal with these days. Plus, you know I can see that Russian guy in the morning from where I live. Nkay?
The real question that needs to be answered is , Was that Sarah Palin being interviewed by Couric, or did the devious dems. send in Tina Frey?
“QUESTION: And, just so I get it right, what’s the correct spelling of your name?
Why didn’t she just admit she doesn’t know how to spell it? That’s mainstream gotcha journalism at its worst!
This column from the Washington Times dated July 23, 2008 shows the knowledge that the debate moderator (for the Vice Presidential debate) was writing a book on Sen. Obama’s campaign (there is a quote from her contained therein, and she is identified as both working for CNN and the author of the forthcoming book):
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/23/smiley-faces-blog-anger/
Now, if the agreement as to the debate moderators occurred subsequent to this date, how did the McCain campaign not know about the book? I’ve read that the agreement as to the moderators occurred August 6, so was there someone at the McCain campaign asleep?
MonkeyHock has no doubt experienced too much of crystal pyramids and ‘one-hand clapping’ to form objective opinions.
Yes, August 6 was the date the agreement as to moderators was announced: http://www.thoughts.com/news/Politics/moderators-set-for-presidential-vp-debates-37062
I think this particular moderator should never have been appointed/selected and should step down, but Vaughn’s remark seems to be dead on.
littlejohn, this tidbit from Greta makes a case for incompetence in the McCain campaign, give the above: http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/10/01/oh-oh-6/
where she has confirmed (using her words) that no one in the McCain campaign knew about the book.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/01/ifills_book_is_no_secret.html
wherein it is reported that Ms Ifhill discussed her forthcoming book in a September 4 Washington Post article. Seems to me that there has been almost a month for the McCain campaign to make objections, so why is this coming up now? Drudge, anyone?
“…was there someone at the McCain campaign asleep?”
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The election isn’t as close as it was but still close enough that the “ground team” is extremely important. This is another example of incompetence in the McCain team. There was little enthusiasm until Palin was named McCain’s running mate and by then they were far behind in the ground game.
avtolle-
I agree that the McCain campaign was incompetent to not have vetted her and made a complaint earlier. However, I believe that she is a little too close to the Obama, and should not moderate the debate. If for nothing else, even the appearance of impropriety. Such would be the demand if it were the other way, I believe.
She might ask some tough questions of Obama, having thoroughly researced him, maybe she should step down!
I’d rather she’d written a book about mccain.
“Regular” again is left with nothing but name-calling –
“MonkeyHock has no doubt experienced too much of crystal pyramids and ‘one-hand clapping’ to form objective opinions.”
Nay, “Regular.”
You’re my personal role-model for expressing “objective” opinions.
Except for the name-calling part, of course.
Everyone knows when you’re reduced to name-calling you’ve got nothing to contribute to the issues being discussed.
“Crystal pyarmids?”
“…one hand clapping?”
You had to go pretty far up your colon to pull those out, didn’t ya?
It’s so non sequitur, it’s as if I were to assert, “‘Franklin’ hasn’t posted lately because he’s off to the Annual NAMBLA convention and cruise.”
Well, littlejohn, the McCain campaign had the time to do so and seems to have been taken by surprise.
If this was a Presidential candidates’ debate, Greta’s analogy to a trial might hold; not so much with a Vice-Presidential candidates’ debate,
I understand your distaste for this; it is somewhat shared by me. Frankly, this might cause me to watch the debate now that this has arisen, I hadn’t planned on it before.
Now that it has been brought out though, Gwenny is going to talking on eggshells in an effort not to appear partisan and draw attention to her questionable ethics in acceptng the gig.
No worries.
Oh well, I wasn;t planning on watching anyway, and probably still won;t.
Just another sign of incompetence on the McCain side.
Oh my goodness bless my soul,
there goes Joe Biden down the hole!
Can we have another Biden thread tomorrow too?
Gwen Ifill is an absolutely down-the-middle moderate.
And she’s a female who can’t be expected to our accused of sexism if she presses issues with the Moose-Dresser.
As an African-American who’s been on the front lines for this entire campaign, her book is likely to be a rehash of what she’s observed over the past couple of years.
Because it really is pretty remarkable.
This guy with the big ears, the funny name, the wrong color when compared with all 43 predecessors in the office he seeks, went up against a powerful political force within his own party and developed a strategies and tactics that captured the spirit of what American want from government.
The book doesn’t come out until the new POTUS is inaugurated, so there’s certainly time for her to write a chapter or two about how the Obama campaign might — who knows? — crash and burn.
The CONs are desperate to find some excuse for the implosion they fear will further reveal Palin is not ready for prime time.
And the damnedest thing:
Palin seems to have the natural instincts and confidence and sincerity to handle herself when she’s not being bombarded by Republic Party and McCainiac dogma. She’s crazy, of course, but she’s pretty comfortable with her positions against abortion-for-rape-and/or-incest-victims. Crazy as a loon, but sincere and confident in expressing what she feels.
But those little matters, when asked about what she reads — “all of ‘em!” is clearly a lie. She reads Phylis Schafley’s web site and Little Green Footballs and listens to Rush and never has seen an open copy of The New Yorker or Human Events or The New Republic or the National Review.
The McSame campaign clearly wanted a debate format where give-and-take between the candidates would be unlikely.
Biden should respond to one of her inevitable rambling, trope-laden, flash-card, generic boiler-plate answers with simply, “I don’t think I followed that answer. Can you tell us more?”
But the CONs in the forum will accuse him of “beating up on a girl” and blame Gwen Ifill for trying to sell her book.
Hate to tell you this folks, but Gwen Ifill has been a PBS journalist for years now. Yeah, to those who attack PBS, this means she is biased. But her job as moderator is to see that questions get answered–from both candidates. If she fails that, or asks really dumb fluff questions, then any perceived bias won’t matter. She will have failed to do her job.
P.S. AW, if the editors want to have another Biden thread, I say sure, why not? Hell, have two if you like, eds! He needs the publicity!
I’ve never seen people whine so much: “Boo hoo hoo! They’re picking on Sarah again!”
Grow up, people.
“littlejohn” admits –
“.. I wasn;t planning on watching anyway, and probably still won;t.”
Why?
Is it on opposite ultimate fighting or something?
“Just another sign of incompetence on the McCain side.”
Yeah. Those are the people I want running the country for the next four years — assuming John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) lives that long.
Is anyone here scoring at home? When was the last time anyone of the CONs in this forum has posted any reason to vote for the codger?
P.S. why do I suspect this moderator bias issue is just a convenient way to spin an expected bad outcome?
Feed at the community trough sheep.
bahhhh..
bahhhhh..
Never hurts to have your excuses all in a row.
Does anyone think there is a member of the media who doesn’t have a personal preference? How many journalists, announcers, personalities, pundits have written books and continue to perform their jobs?
Is anyone here scoring at home? When was the last time anyone of the CONs in this forum has posted any reason to vote for the codger?
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How about, because he is more qualified than the other guy. You know, the one bleating chaaaannnnggee to his sheep.
BTW, have you noticed that Obama has either quit dyeing his hair or is adding some gray? Or maybe the campaign is aging him.
“outlander” –
Perhaps you haven’t noticed, but the McCoot/Paler campaign has tried all sorts of “change” slogans no one has responded to.
And now hair dye is your issue du jour?
C’mon.
If that’s what you’re left with before 2 o’clock in the afternoon, just stop disturbing the conversations on the forum which involve grown-ups.
Diversion, distraction, delusion, defaming — that’s all you CONs have left.
I think I’m gonna walk down to the pool hall and strike up a conversation with the town drunk. He makes more sense during the DTs than some of you CONs.
Monkeyhawk- diversion, distraction, delusion, defaming — that’s all you CONs have left.
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While the demorats lie, ignore, rewrite, cover-up and bash………
organizer…
bahhhhhhhh….
bahhhhhhhh….
Chaaange, I mean Real Chhaaaange, that’s the newly adopted palin/mccrazy slogan.
The reason they didn’t protest is because they have lowered expectations, so if she doesn’t bite her tongue, she wins. If she does bite her tongue, they’ll scream racism, or that the moderator was unfair to palin, by asking her ‘what the hell were you talking about, did you just hear the words coming out of your mouth?”
True, Biden’s made a lot of screw-ups, but since I’m a Republican it seems to be working a lot in my favor. . .
“The jawless fish deposits a rather large load on the pathway of truth.”
Re: Regular
DNFTT
“That the best you got Aggie? Gwen Ifill has put her heart and soul into writing a book about Obama, and will be able to cash in big time if he wins the presidency. If he is not, the first printing is in the discount bin, if it get’s published at all. Talk about a conflict!”
Nonsense. Obama’s camapaign will be historically significant no matter who wins.
“Now Iffel may be ‘an excellent journalist and an even handed moderator’ but she has a blatant conflict that undercuts her credibility. Ethically, she should have never agreed to moderate the debate.”
The only thing it does is lend fuel to the fire to the predictable poisoning the well whines about media bias. In reality, one does not follow from the other. If she is indeed “an excellent journalist and an even handed moderator” as I asserted, then that is the relevant information to consider whether she is qualified to moderate. Period. Prominient journalists, after all, write books.