Palin brought enthusiasm, Tiahrt says

“Is there more experienced people? Yes,” said Rep. Todd Tiahrt, R-Goddard, about vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin. But Tiahrt told The Eagle editorial board Wednesday that Palin is one of the toughest people he knows and that she has brought enthusiasm that was absent in the GOP campaign. “That has value,” he said.

51 Comments

  1. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 6:02 am | Permalink

    I’d prefer competence over enthusiasm. Thankfully Obama has both. I can say one thing about Palin. One of my friends, an Arizona native, was going to vote for McCain then Palin got on the ticket and she provided enough enthusiasm for my friend to support Obama.

  2. JMWalker
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 6:08 am | Permalink

    Palin also brought a troubled past. This troopergate mess is sounding more and more like she abused her office to get Officer Wooten fired. Combine that with her easy transfer to attack dog for McCain, and one has to wonder if she is now desperate to get elected as V.P. so she can get a quick pardon from her boss.

    About the best article I’ve read on troopergate.

  3. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    Does Palin’s connection to the John Birch Society bring enthusiasm?

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/

  4. Heckler
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    Maggott

    Competence? Obama? He’s a more than competent liar, I’ll give you that.

  5. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    “Is there more experienced people?”

    Yes. There am.

  6. Posted October 10, 2008 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Who wants a cheerleader standing by to take the place of the quarterback?

  7. Mary_Caruso
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    The only thing she’s really good at is being comedy material for last night TV. I haven’t laughed this hard in a long time.

  8. Mary_Caruso
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    “late” night, not last night. Not enough caffeine, yet.

  9. CF2K
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    “Is there more experienced people?”

    Fractured English for white politicians evidently is supposed to be a mark of “authenticity.” For African-American politicians, not so much.

  10. Regular
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    #
    CF2K
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    “Is there more experienced people?”

    Fractured English for white politicians evidently is supposed to be a mark of “authenticity.” For African-American politicians, not so much.
    =============================
    For African-American politicians, not so much.

    At least Tiahrt uses verbs in his sentences.

  11. lindainks55
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    “At least Tiahrt uses verbs in his sentences.” — Regular

    —–

    Too bad he didn’t ask to buy a vowel.

  12. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    What’s more experience?
    143 days in Senate before hitting the campaign trail or 18-months of running a State?

  13. lindainks55
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    Well, Mr. Kia, she was in her office long enough to have an investigation brought looking into her ethics, her abuse of power. What could she do if she were in office longer? That is the kind of “experience” we’ve seen under bushco. America deserves better!

  14. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    I’m more concerned with associations with terrorists such as Bill Ayers and radical groups such as ACORN than I am the ruffling of feathers on both sides of the aisle by bringing about true “change” in Government, but that’s just me.

  15. mom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    What Tiarht did not say was whether he thinks Palin is qualified to be answering that phone at 3 am when Russia, China, Iran or a number of other foreign countries threaten world destruction.

    The only enthusiasm Palin has brought to this race is to shore up the Christian Conservative base. And isn’t this kinda late in the game to be having to do this?

    With all the reports of her inciting her loyal supporters with chants of ‘kill him’, it sounds more like a build-up of a race war. Isn’t that how Hitler got started?

  16. scotticus_e
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    so Tiahrt’s reasoning is GOP voters didn’t want to vote for McCain himself, but the presence of Palin won them over? Then what – hope for something to happen so she can then take over? Otherwise, he’s STILL be the one running the show while she’d just be attending funerals of other heads of state.
    Not exactly a ringing recommendation, Todd

  17. mom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Mr Kia – do you know of all the associations that John McCain has? There have been reports he is associated with some pretty unsavory characters.

    Does that bother you also? Or do you choose not to want to find out?

  18. lindainks55
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    I believe after Governor Palin opened her mouth only those who would have voted for McCain NO MATTER WHAT are still enthusiastic about McCain’s running mate. Adding her to the ticket may get some out to vote who might have sat this one out, but those will be countered by others who won’t vote for the ticket because of her. No net gain, maybe a loss.

    mom, I’m concerned about the anger we see at the McCain campaign events. It goes beyond supporting your candidate — waaay beyond. This from the man who says he knows how to work with everyone. Reminds me of the person who said he was a uniter. Look at what eight years of that philosophy have brought us! America can’t afford another four years of the same economic and foreign policies!

  19. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    I saw some woman on Larry King last night trying to argue that a relationship with G. Gordon Liddy was akin to that of Bill Ayers. Or ACORN.
    If you want to split hairs on that it’s fine.
    Just realize you are voting in communism.

  20. lindainks55
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    It’s why we each get a vote. I will use mine!

  21. mom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Mr Kia – don’t you think you are the one that is stretching things to make a point?

    Just curious – do you think G Gordon Liddy is a hero?

  22. mom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    Linda, I too am concerned about the level of anger and hatred coming from McCain and Palin. But don’t fret, they are both wearing their flag pins and that makes them more patriotic that me – yeah right.

  23. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    “Fractured English for white politicians evidently is supposed to be a mark of “authenticity.” For African-American politicians, not so much.”

    HA! CF!

    I thought kinda the same thing when I read that.

    Toddly must have had the same English teacher as shrub.

  24. Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Did the Eagle ask Tiahrt about debating Donald Betts?

    WILL Tiahrt get yet another pass and endorsement from what is left of the Eagle editors?

  25. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Pass? Pass?

    Hell, he’ll likely get not only a pass but their ENDORSEMENT again!

  26. gster
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    I know if I ever need fluff, Palin’s my source! ‘Ya gotta’ go with quality, huh!

  27. Phantom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    If the ed. board was questioning Tiahrt, I do hope the asked questions about something more substantive than Sarah!
    Like, if he had it to do over again, would he still have tried to defeat the rescue bill.
    Does he still think that no action would be better than trying to save the economy.
    Or, if the economy/markets are this bad with the rescue bill, how much worse does he think it would be without one. And, just how long did he think the crisis would hold off while congress did their back scratching and politicking?

    He could come on the thread and answer some questions from the public, if you all don’t want to ask them.

  28. Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Politician speak is SO easy to break up.

    “But Tiahrt told The Eagle editorial board Wednesday that Palin is one of the toughest people he knows…”

    Really? Did the editors ask just how it is Tiahrt knows Palin? WHEN did he last spend time with her? Did they shoot some wolves from a helicopter together? Maybe Tiahrt sat with Palin on her roof and kept an eye on Russia?

    “she has brought enthusiasm that was absent in the GOP campaign. “That has value,” he said.”

    She can get the hateful base even MORE stirred up as they march to defeat? The right and the people who vote for it don’t need any revving up in the nasty gear.

    It’s who they are and how they live.

  29. Jed
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Mr.Chia,
    The neo-cons from the 1970’s are thoroughly laced with ex-SDS’ers, which is why there is such an anarchist tilt to their rhetoric. For those of you who don’t remember, the anarchists were the ones the communists thought were far too radically leftist for them! When so much of neo-con theory is based is based in Proudhon, y’gotta wonder if they’re so far left that they’ve come full circle. The Iraq war is a prime example of a highly reality-challenged Proudhonian theory in action, which is why we’re still there so long after “Mission Accomplished.”

  30. TomPaine
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Considering McCain Tanked the tanker deal and even bragged about it at the last debate I wonder how Tiahrt really supports McCain?

  31. lindainks55
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    “I wonder how Tiahrt really supports McCain?”

    —–

    The “R” behind his name. Neither have enough brains to actually read words but have been taught to recognize the “R.”

  32. mom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    I wonder if Tiarht has ever been on the receiving end of one of McCain’s famous nasty temper tantrums? I bet not, because even ‘that one’ is only a Congressman and not a Senator like the mighty McCain.

  33. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    AP: Palin pre-empts state report, clears self in probe
    Trying to head off a potentially embarrassing state ethics report on GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, campaign officials released their own report Thursday that clears her of any wrongdoing.

    Oh good. We can finally let this one go.

  34. TomPaine
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Tiahrt will probably vote for McCain but the tanker deal was his baby and McCain lead the battle to kill it I cant imgaine that thiers a warm and fuzzy spot in his heart for McCain

  35. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    No that wasn’t from the National Lampoon, Palin has actually cleared herself. I think it’s the Constitutional right of pre-VPs. Or maybe she got the power by tongue kissing Dick Cheney. (shudder)

  36. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    mom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:37 am | Permalink
    Mr Kia – don’t you think you are the one that is stretching things to make a point?

    Just curious – do you think G Gordon Liddy is a hero?
    —————————————————-
    I think he’s a convict who served his time but in many ways was also the fall guy.
    Bill Ayers on the other hand is an unrepetent terrorist who has not served a debt to society.
    ACORN is a group that is involved in illegal activity most likely as I type this.
    Not 25 years ago.

  37. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    “The “R” behind his name. Neither have enough brains to actually read words but have been taught to recognize the “R.”

    Deep “hee hee heeeee”

    Yer on a ROLL today, Linda!

  38. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Ya know, after the election, you repukes and this “stolen” thing will just have to GET OVER IT!!!!

  39. Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    NO POPE HERE!

    That was the first hate-shot I saw against JFK back in 1960. The Kennedy-haters could easily generate a lot of enthusiasm at rallies in the South. All of that eventually culminated on November 22, 1963.

  40. Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wanted_for_treason.jpg

  41. Phantom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Does Tiahrt ‘know’ Sarah, in the biblical sense?
    Did Tiahrt explain to the eds. how a Pres. Mccain would be good for boeing and the Kansas economy?
    Was he asked about what kind of leverage he’ll have in getting the tanker deal when his party is in the extreme minority?

  42. mom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Mr Kia – you never answered my question about G Gordon Liddy – do you see him as a hero? As for being repentant – I have heard G Gordon Liddy say many times that he would do it all over again – that does not sound like he is repentant to me.

    As for Liddy being the fall guy – yeah, right. Whatever makes you feel better.

    As for ACORN doing illegal activity – are you talking about the voter registration drives? How do you know if the Republicans groups are all above board? Do you just take them at their word because they are Republicans? If there are questions about legality, then let investigations take place.

    But to be against voter registration is un-democratic of you -don’t you think? All Americans have the right to vote – even those the Republicans don’t like.

  43. mom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    bth – you’re right. But I also remember how that hate talk got Kennedy assassinated, along with Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy. The sad part is that these people really think they are patriotic Americans!

  44. Phantom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Why do only the good ones, normally progressives get asassinated.

  45. Posted October 10, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Phantom – do you have to ask?

  46. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Mom, when making a list of those killed by hate and hate speech, dont forget Harvey Milk.

    Shot by Dan White, who got off with the “twinkie diet” defense.

  47. Phantom
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    There’s few that can incite a crowd, the way Sarah can.

  48. Mary_Caruso
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    A crowd of morons, that is.
    Sorta reminds me of the way many Germans worshipped Hitler.

  49. Regular
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    #
    Mary_Caruso
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    A crowd of morons, that is.
    Sorta reminds me of the way many Germans worshipped Hitler.
    ——————————-
    Duh Libs that worship Obama reminds me the way the Kommies worshipped Lenin.

  50. Mary_Caruso
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    No, more like the way I worshipped the Beatles and Robert Kennedy.

  51. WaldenP
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    So, Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Goddard) issued a statement today in support of Vice Presidential candidate and Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin:

    “Is there more experienced people? Yes,” said Rep. Todd Tiahrt, R-Goddard, about vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin. But Tiahrt told The Eagle editorial board Wednesday that Palin is one of the toughest people he knows and that she has brought enthusiasm that was absent in the GOP campaign. “That has value,” he said.

    I will ignore the poor grammar in Rep. Tiahrt’s press release, because it is too easy a duck to hit. All I will say is that his staff needs to really work on double-checking those releases before they go out.

    More importantly, Todd Tiahrt supports a woman who has brought enthusiasm that may be more aptly described as racist intonations, a lack of intellectual curiosity, and ignorance of the issue of the day: the economy.

    Seeing as Tiahrt has no hope of working with McCain on issues important to this district (McCain has a notorious bias against the Boeing Corporation), I am surprised that he is coming to the aid of the Republican presidential and vice presidential candidates.

    If the enthusiasm that she is bringing to the GOP campaign is something for Tiahrt to celebrate, then perhaps we need to be thinking about getting him back here at home, and giving a chance to the next generation in State Senator Don Betts.

    Some things that people do not know about Rep. Tiahrt:

    - Tiahrt has taken more than $500,000 from the banking and lending lobby — he is supported by the same people who got us into this economic crisis.
    - Tiahrt voted to bailout Bear Stearns, but not to bail out Fannie, Freddie, or AIG. I’m curious why he thinks one is more deserving than another.
    - Tiahrt took money from Airbus’ parent company, Grumman, during the tanker fiasco. If Tiahrt is on the take with the French, then how can he possibly explain his claim of “vindication?”

    The truth is, Todd Tiahrt is celebrating Sarah Palin because they are cut from the same cloth. The truth is, both are guilty of “violating the public trust.”

    I think it’s time to get Rep. Tiahrt out. He doesn’t know what’s going on, and he doesn’t care. Being a leader means doing what is right, even when it is unpopular. And Tiahrt is not a leader. He is a coward, taking the easy way out.