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Yup, the Republicans are getting desperate but what do you expect? They are willing to go as far as beating themselves in the face and marring their own flesh (oops, that’s a violation of God’s commandment, but Republicans only pretend to care about moral values) and blame it on a Black man.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/b-grade-hoax-reveals-gops-inner-race
Naturally the Reich wing media had a field day claiming Democrats were violent, yadda, yadda. Of course Republicans were gullible enough to fall for it, they get their “news” from Drudge, Fox and Rush.
The Devil Is In the Details: Another Obama Connection You Ought to Know About
Could Lucifer play a role in this presidential election? It may sound crazy, but one of the candidates in this race has publicly praised, even emulated, a writer-activist who himself paid tribute to Lucifer. That’s right, Lucifer, also known as the Devil, Satan, Beelzebub—you get the idea.
Do you think that admiring a Lucifer-admirer would make a difference to some voters?
If you’ve never heard of this true fact—and most Americans obviously haven’t—well, that might help to explain why John McCain is behind in the polls.
OK, you might be asking, where is this Lucifer stuff coming from? It comes from a man named Saul Alinsky, who devoted his life to left-wing agitation in Chicago. He also wrote two seminal books, “Reveille for Radicals” and “Rules for Radicals,” still regarded as key how-to manuals for left-wing activists.
But Alinsky was more than just a leftist; he was a genuine out-there crazy, someone who loved to shock and stun, just for the helluvit. And so in the first edition of “Rules for Radicals,” published in 1971, he offered this astounding dedication: “Lest we forget at least an over the shoulder acknowledgement of the very first radical, from all our legends, mythology, and history … the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom—Lucifer.”
This dedication is no secret. David Freddoso wrote about it in his book, The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate; and the inimitable Ann Coulter noted it, too, just last month.
And the connection between Alinsky and Barack Obama—and Alinsky and the left in general—is real enough. As John Fund, author of a newly revised book, Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy, observes, Alinsky, who died in 1972, was a sort of godfather to all the activist groups that emerged in the 60s and 70s, the most famous (or, if you prefer, notorious) of which today is ACORN.
Fund notes that young Hillary Rodham was such a fan of Alinsky that she traveled to Chicago, four times, to interview him for an adulatory school thesis she was writing. And Obama is an on-the-record fan too: Fund quotes The Washington Post’s Peter Slevin, writing in 2007, “Obama embraced many of Alinsky’s tactics and recently said his years as an organizer gave him the best education of his life.” Slevin further noted that Obama’s and Hillary Rodham Clinton’s “common connection to Alinsky is one of the striking aspects of their biographies.”
OK, so the Alinsky-Obama connection is real. But the full truth about Alinsky, and whom he admired, is so wacky, or so horrible, that even the media have been reluctant to get into the story. And so it has received relatively little play. Oh sure, if John McCain had expressed admiration for a Lucifer admirer, that would have been news, but as we all know, there’s a media double standard on such things. That media bias is lamentable, of course, but for a Republican, it’s part of the strategic landscape—one more roadblock to factor into any GOP victory strategy.
Speaking of McCain, he would seem to have the greatest interest in taking Obama down a peg—or, according to the latest calculation from RealClearPolitics, about seven points in the polls. So why hasn’t he highlighted the Alinsky-Lucifer connection? Why hasn’t the McCain-Palin ticket raised this issue, knowing full well that if the candidates say it, reporters have to cover it? Good questions. Did I mention that the Republican nominee is down seven points?
In debate and argumentation, there’s a concept called the “rule of three”—that is, if you can come up with three examples to support your argument, you’ve got a pretty good argument. And so, for example, if one were to make the argument that Obama has strange radical associations, one could bring up Bill Ayers. And check, the McCain campaign has done that. And of course, there’s Reverend Wright, who McCain has stayed away from. So no check there. And no check, of course, for Alinsky-Lucifer. So McCain is left with the “rule of one,” which isn’t much of a rule. If McCain won’t bring up Wright, I guess it’s no surprise that he’s not bringing up Alinsky-Lucifer, assuming his campaign even knows about it.
The point of the “rule of three” is to make a sustained argument, to paint a comprehensive picture, to build an overall narrative—so that nobody can say that any one “hit” is just a cheap shot. That’s what happened to McCain with Ayers; the Obamans, and their allies in the media, said that it was just a “one off,” the sort of incidental association that happens in the course of a public career. And McCain had no good comeback, no additional opposition-research arrows to pull from his quiver.
So the Obama-Alinsky-Lucifer connection is left to float around in the vast soup of the Internet—plenty of mentions, here and there, but no real impact.
But had McCain really gone after Ayers AND Wright AND Alinsky-Lucifer, all at once, he would have had a strong argument that Obama was, and is, well out of the mainstream. And then all the information about Tony Rezko, Emil Jones, and the scandal-ridden Daley machine, would be all the more compelling to reporters and voters, because, as they would have to admit, a “pattern has emerged.”
And, for that matter, let’s talk about the great state of Illinois, where three governors in the last 40 years—Otto Kerner, Dan Walker, and George Ryan—ended up not only convicted, but imprisoned. And a fourth, incumbent Rod Blagojevich, may also end up in the clink. That’s quite a streak of corruption. And what does Obama have to say about any of that? And what did he know, and when did he know it?
If the McCain campaign had been on its game, its opposition researchers would have gone through every single day of Obama’s life since he first set foot in Chicago in 1987. Everyone he met, everything he did. And then, having amassed all that information, the McCainiacs would have made the rest of us know about it—in a sustained, organized, and unrelenting volley.
That’s how you win a presidential campaign, even amidst hard times for your party.
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/23/jpinkerton_1023/
Hey dont forget to include Hannity…. The only one I have heard that retracted any of his vile crap is Drudge… Havent heard from Limbaugh, or Fox yet…
George Bush endorses the Palin/McCain campaign.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/10/well_yeahso_who_does_gw_bush_e.php
What “black man” are you refering too?
Barack Hussein Obama, AKA “Barry Soretero” is half white and a half black Kenyan arab.
“Hey dont forget to include Hannity…. The only one I have heard that retracted any of his vile crap is Drudge… Havent heard from Limbaugh, or Fox yet…”
Hannity is the guy who openly embraces anti-Semites on his show and invites loons like Hal Turner as regular guests. It’s not like you’ll get a retraction from him. I’m surprised Drudge did, is he trying to con people into thinking he’s actually a reporter? I suppose he can convince World Nut Daily readers.
“What “black man” are you refering too?”
I know it’s hard to keep up when your mind has been corrupted by conservatism but the “black man” is a fictional dream made up by a McCain campaigner. It would help if you read the article.
Oops, McCain supporters caught on camera destroying Obama signs.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Missouri_vandals_kick_stomp_and_steal_1024.html
$22,000 for stylist for the “folksy” Palin.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/pains-makeup-stylist-fetches-highest-salary-in-2-week-period/
Kinda makes Edwards haircut minor by comparison. Naturally the Republicans don’t mind. Sure the Edwards haircut spent weeks in the media as Republicans were outraged but Palin’s huge wardrobe and makeup budget are okay since it was used by taxpayer funds.
I thought the first thing McCain was going to do was enact a SPENDING FREEZE.
His running mate seems to have forgotten that!
“Ms. Palin, the Republican nominee for vice president, also promised that she and Senator John McCain would finally provide public schools the federal money that was promised when the law covering students with special needs was passed in 1975. Her pledge was intended to address the top concern of many school districts, and is one that has been made by many other politicians but never fulfilled.”
Also I have news for Palin. The private schools DON’T WANT the special needs kids in their schools. It lowers their prestigious grade scores and makes it harder to sell their product to “upscale” families.
American
Posted October 25, 2008 at 6:12 am | Permalink
The Devil Is In the Details: Another Obama Connection You Ought to Know About . . .yadda, yadda . . .
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So, the cons, after trying to make Obama out to be a terrorist by his association with some guy who was a radical when Obama was eight years old, now tries to tie him to some guy who died in 1971, when Obama was, what, 11 years old? Anything else you morons want to throw out there?
Oh, ya, excuse me, he’s also “AKA “Barry Soretero” is half white and a half black Kenyan arab. Ain’t you nut cases ever heard of vetting? As in the FBI, CIA, NSA, PTA, PGA, and any other lettered outfit checking him everywhichwaybutloose? If he was not an Naturalized American citizen, he wouldn’t be running because they would know if he wasn’t. Unless you think our intelligence outfits are too stupid to find out.
So which is it: Intelligence too stupid, or cons too stupid? My money’s on the latter, fer sure, dude.
American
Posted October 25, 2008 at 6:18 am | Permalink
What “black man” are you refering too?
Barack Hussein Obama, AKA “Barry Soretero” is half white and a half black Kenyan arab.
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DAMN, man, you’re starting the kool ade sort early here… WHY must you continue to LIE like this??? The WORLD knows you are lying… Do try to keep up!!!
Obama is NO Arab!! half black/half white…
Cant you get that straight in your pee brain after all these many months???
Or is it just more comfortable for you to be a friggin racist???
JM — Obama is better than a naturalized citizen…. he is a natural BORN citizen… just like you and I are…. Being born in Hawaii makes him a CITIZEN….
OK, let’s talk about guilt by association. From Crooks and Liars.
McCain Pal Gets 54 Months For Fraud
By Cernig Friday Oct 24, 2008 4:30pm
Raffaello Follieri, perhaps most famous for being Anne Hathaway’s ex-boyfriend, has been sentenced to four and a half years in prison this Friday after being pleading guilty to one count of conspiring to commit wire fraud, eight counts of wire fraud and five counts of money laundering.
Raffaello Follieri, 30, pleaded guilty in September to fraudulently obtaining US$2.4 million by leading investors to believe he had Vatican connections that enabled him to buy the Roman Catholic Church’s unwanted US properties at a discount.
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He’ll be deported after serving his sentence.
Follieri had good connections to both McCain and Rick Davis, for whom he had promised to “deliver Catholic votes”, and was the host of John McCain’s 70th birthday party, celebrated onboard the yacht of another dodgy character – a Russian oligarch who pretty much owns the tiny state of Montenegro.
In mid-September The Nation’s website published a photo of McCain celebrating his seventieth birthday in Montenegro in August 2006 at a yacht party hosted by convicted Italian felon Raffaello Follieri and his movie-star girlfriend Anne Hathaway. On the same day one of the largest mega-yachts in the world, the Queen K, was moored in the same bay of Kotor. This was where the real party was. The owner of the Queen K was known as “Putin’s oligarch”: Oleg Deripaska, controlling shareholder of the Russian aluminum giant RusAl, currently listed as the ninth-richest man in the world, with a rap sheet as abundant as his wealth.
By mid-2005 Deripaska had already virtually taken control of Montenegro’s economy by snapping up its aluminum plant, KAP–which accounts for up to 40 percent of the country’s GDP and some 80 percent of its export earnings–in a nontransparent privatization tender strongly criticized by NGO watchdogs, Montenegrin politicians and journalists.
The Nation has learned that Deripaska told one of his closest associates that he bought the plant “because Putin encouraged him to do it.” The reason: “the Kremlin wanted an area of influence in the Mediterranean.”
Deripaska is himself involved in some political scandal right now – involving both a high level Labour Party cabinet minister, Lord Peter Mandelson who was one of Tony Blair’s closest advisors and the current shadow chancellor, the Conservative Party’s George Osborne. Both McCain and his campaign manager, Rick Davis have dubious ties to Deripaska too. Other McCain campaign advisers, lobbyists to a man, have their own shady connections.
John McCain keeps saying he’s a reformer and a maverick with no time for the incestuous and often shady dealings of the K Street crowd – but his actions speak louder than his words.
And yeah, I posted almost the whole thing. I suspect American is too dumb to click on a link.
Thanks, Chas, forgot to put born in. I’m sure the cons will have a field day over that.
Meanwhile, the funniest thing to come out on the candidates yet:
http://www.minimovie.com/film-128460-McCain-Obama%20Dance-Off
Link, and picture of McCain climbing on “The Vatican’s Chief Financial Officer’s” Yacht.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Photo_catches_McCain_meeting_with_indicted_0911.html
Seems the cons refuse to recognize their own boy is in cahoots with questionable characters. I believe shrinks call it,
wait for it . . .
“In Denial.”
baaaa baaaa
sheared consheeple!!!
See how little thought it takes to emulate the con mentality!
Good thing the home owner wasn’t out in the yard. The girl might have beat the crap out of him and carved a “M” on his cheek:-)
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Missouri_vandals_kick_stomp_and_steal_1024.html
Posting just for grins this fine Saturday morning the jibjab campaign video.
http://sendables.jibjab.com/sendables/1191/time_for_some_campaignin#/teaser/1191
Barney Frank a stupid dumb dem lib wants to cut the miltary 25%. Terrorists is the Number 1 issue for me. You keep them on the run. If nothing else I would increase the miltary 25%. Barney Frank also was one of those who tricks lead to the wastelful buy out we have now.
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081024/NEWS/810240332/-1/NEWS10
Breaking news, devil worshiping black cult mutilates and canibalizes virgin mccain campaign worker! You heard it here first!
October 25. 2008
Obama 50.4 vs McCain 42.5
Interesting graph of polling showing Obama pulling away from McCain:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#chart
Well, Barney Frank is not planning to take a hatchet to the military budget.
But you know and I know about the “gold-plated” weapons systems, programs the military doesn’t need or want, and building programs based on unproven technologies.
A scalpel approach will find a lot of government waste, and smarter ways to to defend the American people and interests…
Name-calling is not productive…
With all the hatred shown on this blog regularly, it is no surprise to read a story in this morning’s paper that says how Republicans are generally much happier than Democrats. Not all Republicans and not all the time…the study shows general trends.
Of course, I can expect some people here to level their insults and attacks, pointing out one or two “exceptions”. But…it can easily be seen here..the majority of the hate threads and name calling comes from the people who are less happy.
Do you guys know about the “Jihad Rehab” program the US military is implementing in Iraq for the 20,000 detainees. It is based on a Saudi model.
I know some here advocate summary executions of suspects… but there is a perhaps a better way based on realities on the ground rather than base primal fears deliberately stoked for political gain…
“The Saudis have converted a holiday camp outside Riyadh and turned it into a rehabilitation centre.
This is where al-Qaeda sympathisers receive art and religious therapy, as well as money to marry and settle down.
The US in Iraq also offers detainees therapy and job training in a camp in the middle of a warzone.
Owen Bennett-Jones speaks to current and former prisoners – including a man who drove a truck bomb that killed nine people in Baghdad.
He also speaks to those in charge and asks if such treatment is fair.
Can it really convince someone to stop believing in Jihad and supporting al-Qaeda?”
http://jihadwatch.org/archives/017870.php
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2008/09/081015_al_qaeda_winning_four.shtml
The folks over at ACORN – Barack Obama’s favorite “community organizers” – now admit that more than 30 percent of the 1.3 million voter-registration forms they submitted this year were rejected by election officials nationwide. Read the rest of the article here:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10252008/postopinion/editorials/a_few_bad_apples__135225.htm
“Bin Laden doesn’t have the proper religious education to control so many people,” said Mohammed Fozan, a computer technician who was arrested in Syria in 2005 on his way to build websites for Islamic militants in Iraq. He was extradited to Saudi Arabia and placed in the rehabilitation program. Today, he works as a computer programmer in the Transportation Ministry while he fixes up a house and waits for his family to choose his bride.
“I just want to get on with my life,” he said, eating fish and chicken with sheiks and security officials, the likes of whom years earlier he despised as supporters of the infidel West’s war against Islam. “When I adopted that radical way of thinking, it was without analysis. I just took it because I felt a responsibility for all those Iraqis dying.”
He glanced down at his plate and smiled. “You could say the government cleaned the hard drive of my mind. There were bad viruses and things in there.”
I must be missing something here. If you raise the taxes on someone making 250,000 i.e. business owner, WHAT will happen to the cost of their product???
My grandmother is GRAVELY ill, I will RUSH to her side… in about 3 or 4 days.
RALLY TODAY FOR OBAMA
What: Barack the Early Vote Rally
Where: The Gazebo in Riverside Park, at Murdock and West River Blvd. in Wichita
When: 2:30 p.m.
Immediately following the rally, take advantage of the free bus rides to early voting locations in Wichita!
Join Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, former Congressman Dan Glickman, U.S. Senate candidate Jim Slattery and U.S. House candidate Donald Betts as we “Barack the Early Vote” in Wichita on Saturday!
Talk about name calling ,none is bigger than Murtha. This guy needs to lose his re-election big time.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10252008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/battling_for_change_135159.htm
How do you MAKE a company that is using overseas workers, bring those jobs back to the US??
Can the US afford to give these companies the tax break they would need to break even?
If I own a company that makes widgets.
Employee costs China 1.00 an hour
Employee costs US 7.25 an hour
Guvment regulation China Zero
Guvment regulation US I hate to think
So how is the US going to make it profitable for me to move my company back to the US AND still be competitive against the world market for widgets??? Oh and lets not forget the tax increase because I make more than 250,000.
Raptor
Posted October 25, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink
With all the hatred shown on this blog regularly, it is no surprise to read a story in this morning’s paper that says how Republicans are generally much happier than Democrats.
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Don’t worry Rap, in a couple of weeks I’ll bet Democrats will be much happier and it’ll be republicans who are glum.
As for “hatred shown on this blog”, That’s just a few radical bad actors (on both sides) and isn’t a general consensus thing. Except for one glaring exception, I don’t think there’s anybody on the right that I couldn’t get along with in real life.
George “Barney Frank a stupid dumb dem lib” criticizes name-calling? WhahhaaaAAAA??????
Yes that is it! McCain is not losing because of his adoring of the Bush economics and foreign policies.
It can’t be because he is the Republican candidate after eight years of the worst President in U.S. history!
It must not be because McCain had not came out with one sensible, real solution and even refuses to talk about the real problems that is effecting the United States! Instead he talks about some one that Obama had a chance encounter with that forty years ago did something wrong.
ITS THE DEVIL DOING IT…YES IT MUST BE THE SUPERNATURAL THAT IS CAUSING IT!
OMG if you are asking me how stupid I am I need to answer “How stupid do you want me to be?”.
The true be told, Obama lost over a hundred pounds and died his skin… He is really Bella Abzoke!
Famed feminist and one of the founders of N.O.W. There I said it and the secret is out now sigh!
Did you know.. Senator Obama’s community organizing was done under the auspices of, and from offices in Catholic parishes on the South side of Chicago?
He worked to get jobs and training for members of the parishes, working side by side with Jesuit priests and lay-workers?
X…yours is a rare voice of reason…but you cannot ignore the claims of “bush whore” or “repukes” or “mcshame” or other childish and hateful insults.
Granted, there have been guilty parties on both sides, it was an interesting study in the paper. It also pointed out the happiness level did not change over the years, regardless if it was a Democrat or Republican in the White House.
DavidB,
Are there any suggestions of where people will park who attend this afternoon’s rally? Suggestions?
There is parking in Riverside Park a short walk around the pond to the west of the Gazebo. Looks like a beautiful day for a rally.
The Gazebo is at Murdock and the River to the west of the traffic circle.
What: Barack the Early Vote Rally
Where: The Gazebo in Riverside Park, at Murdock and West River Blvd. in Wichita
When: 2:30 p.m.
Widget Company
It takes 2 employees to make one widget every half hour, so 16 widgets are made a day.
8 hours X 2 = 16 hours
16 hours X 7.25 = 116.00 a day for employees
Cost of materials, per widget- 5.00
16 widgets X 5.00 = 80.00
Total 196.00 just for labor and materials
196.00 / 16 widgets = 12.25 per widget, does not include packaging, transporting, advertising, accounting, taxes. For this we’ll round up to 14.00.
Now to be profitable and pay the shareholders something, we’ll round up again to 15.00.
So the Widget Company can sell their widget for 15.00 at a minimum to cover costs and still make a profit or pay a dividend.
NOW, the guvment comes in and says that they are going to raise my corporation taxes.
The guvement says I have to provide healthcare.
The guvment says my shareholders must pay taxes on their dividends.
The guvment says that I must jump through all of these regulations to either be a company or sell my widgets.
The trial lawyers (see John Edwards) say that I must put warning stickers on my widgets to warn people to NOT put the widgets in their eyes, ears, nose or throat or death or serious injury could occur.
The guvment says that I must make one of my employees a minority or a woman, if I ever have any dreams of contracting with the guvment to provide them with widgets.
The guvment says I must provide daycare for my employees children.
The guvment says that if the person they FORCED me to hire declares they are disabled and can’t stand for more then 20 minutes at a time, then I must accomodate this person or hire another person at 7.25 an hour to cover the 40 minutes this person can’t stand up.
I am now FORCED to raise the cost of my widget to 18.00 to cover these additional costs.
China Widget Company
2 employees X 1.00 a day = 2.00
Cost of materials, for each widget = 1.00
Cost to produce 16 widgets in the Chinese company is 18.00.
Cost per widget is 1.12
Chinese company can sell the widget for 2.00 and still make a profit.
US Widget Company Widget- 18.00
Chinese Widget Company Widget- 2.00
So tell me, HOW is Barry gonna keep my company in business??
Do you really make widgets, or are you like that Joe the Plumber guy (now negotiating a book deal) pretending to buy a company.
Maybe America need not compete on low-end assembly and we focus on high technology, design, new technologies the world desperately needs?
What if America insists on progressive, humane working conditions in factories that make our goods – as many corporations do?
Look at Apple Computer. 2.6 million computers (gawd knows how many phones and iPods) sold in the quarter – all made in China. The company is making record profits.
Watch: http://video.nytimes.com/video/2007/04/10/magazine/1194817107532/the-power-of-green.html See Tom Friedman on how America can regain its international stature by taking the lead in alternative energy and environmentalism.
Joe wannabe Plumber’s thinking about a congressional run, why not, he’s at least as smart and qualified as Palin.
Raptor
Posted October 25, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink
X…yours is a rare voice of reason…but you cannot ignore the claims of “bush whore” or “repukes” or “mcshame” or other childish and hateful insults.
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Or Osama Obama? Or Dimocrats? Or DemoRats? Or Socialists? There’s plenty of blame to go around. We’re either one side or the other. Most of us have forgotten that we’re supposed to be Americans first. On the bright side, you can’t judge by the people who post here. This is a landing spot for generally the most radical, be it left or right.
I am just happy that, for eight years, our president has been the uniter and not the divider, as he promised… (snicker)
DavidB, that is my point. Record profits IN CHINA. HOW is barry gonna get record profits in THE US?
So you are saying that we just give up on alllll of these companies and from now on the US will ONLY build windmills and other “green” products? Gee I wonder how long before these companies move to China. HOW is barry gonna stop that???
As far as Joe the plumber who wants to BUY a plumbing company. Didn’t say he wanted to BE a plumber or a licensed plumber.
SO do you think the OWNER of General Dynamics KNOWS personally or is licensed to build a weapons system?
Let me guess you think this scenario NEVER happens??
That that is not the reason that so many companyies have moved to china. They move there for the fairy dust???
I assume you have carefully researched various proposals presented over the last eight years by our representatives and economists…
You have studied Obama’s position papers and read all his interviews, and those of Joe Biden?
A comprehensive blueprint of America competing in a global economy is beyond the range of a newspaper blog and certainly above my pay grade.
It surely cannot be reduced to a dumbed-down sound bite to paste here.
If you’re serious, you can do some self-study, especially since an Obama win seems quite possible.
I suggest you stop trying to scare yourself, but you do have a point that China is an awakening giant … if history is any guide, America’s place in the world will change over the next 100 years…
As for Joe the Plumber.. he will be better off under Obama’s plan and everyone knows it now…
AND I must point out that the record of the Republican regime of the past eight years for losing American jobs overseas is – um – less than stellar…
36% on > $250k = McCain’s ‘Country First!
39% on > $250k = Obama’s (and Bill Clinton’s) socialism?
‘Obama Explains His Tax Cut Plans To Plumbing Business Owner[sic] ‘
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9jv9jfoA
And remember that:
* the business that Joe wants buy earns earns well below $250,000.
* Joe has no real plan to buy the business.
* despite being a “plumber”(sic) for 15 years, Joe still hasn’t completed his apprenticeship.
Chicago Beats New York, Los Angeles In Murders
“CHICAGO (CBS) ? Chicago is the Second City in nickname and the third in population, but when it comes to murder, the city has the dubious distinction of being second to no city in America.
Chicago is on pace to exceed 500 murders by the end of the year, but that number is far short of even approaching a record. In every year between 1991 and 1994, there were more than 900 homicides in the city, peaking in 1992 with 943 murders. The standing record for homicides in Chicago dates back to 1974, when there were 970 murders.”
Oh my oh my, Berry needs to get back home to his community organizing I guess.
Republican workers drop atempt at vote fraud. Oh, sorry, wrong party.
“Thirteen campaign workers for Barack Obama yesterday yanked their voter registrations and ballots in Ohio after being warned by a prosecutor that temporary residents can’t vote in the battleground state.
A dozen staffers – including Obama Ohio spokeswoman Olivia Alair and James Cadogan, who recently joined Team Obama – signed a form letter asking the Franklin County elections board to pull their names from the rolls.
The letter – a copy of which was obtained by palestra.net, a Fox News affiliate – came a day after prosecutor Ron O’Brien publicly urged out-of-state campaign workers for both Obama and John McCain to “examine your conscience” before the elections board beings begins opening absentee ballots today.
Earlier in the week, O’Brien spoke with lawyers for both camps and urged them to make sure their staffs met permanent-residency rules, or face possible felony charges.
Also pulling his ballot yesterday was Hofstra University grad Jake Smith, an Obama volunteer who had voted in Knox County, Ohio.
On Thursday, O’Brien cut a deal with 13 out-of-staters, including four from New York, who tossed out their already-cast ballots and admitted they didn’t meet residency requirements.
Pres. Bush, in his weekly radio address, has esentially called for a NEW coalition of nations, to search out the “evil-doers” and go on an attack looking for yet more WMD…
Weapons of
Monetary
Destruction
“…many companyies have moved to china.”
Not all companies move to China. Apparently there are other places that have skilled workers and lower taxes.
“The Tanáiste welcoming the new headquarters said, “We are delighted Facebook has chosen Ireland for its international headquarters. As a growing global company, this is an exciting investment for our country to host the leader in social networking. Facebook has fast become a worldwide name and it is a terrific endorsement that Ireland can satisfy the needs of such highly innovative and technologically advanced companies as they make critical investments. With our highly skilled workforce, we look forward to providing talented employees to Facebook.””
Swiss researchers have discovered that women who drink copious amounts of coffee, or caffeine, discover that the size of their breasts shrink over time….
In other related research, they have also discovered that drinking many quarts of beer can make the breasts grow larger….
In the eyes of the guy drinking the beer…
“generaston” –
Your efforts simply show the basic fallacy of “free trade.”
Yeah, just about any company can go to a poverty-ridden country and chain a 7-year-old to a work bench and pay her a dollar a day to sew underwear and your company will clean up on profits! How proud you must be of yourself.
Or… a pair of underwear is worth X-number of dollars. If the slave labor in China or Vietnam undercuts it, you go back to the (here’s a concept for you CONs) Original Intent of the Constitution which basically set up the federal government to levy duties and tariffs on imported goods… to protect American-produced products and commodities.
There’s something intrinsically evil about the CON obsession to get 12 pair of tube socks for $3.00 at Wal-Mart as long as it exploits a 7-year-old chained to a machine somewhere on the other side of the world.
Four Years Ago:
A Spirited Debate Over Outsourcing And Trade:
Senate Republicans Dilute Proposal
Aimed At Keeping Government Service Jobs In U.S.
BY RICHARD McCORMACK
Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) has been losing his voice lately speaking emphatically about the loss of U.S. manufacturing and service sector jobs to foreign countries. Dodd was pressing the issue with sound and fury on the floor of the Senate trying to galvanize support for his proposal to require that all federal service contracts be fulfilled using U.S. workers. But his efforts were attacked by Republicans. After two days of debate, the final version of his legislation excluded most federal agencies from the requirement.
Dodd’s amendment to the “Jumpstart Our Business Strength (JOBS) Act,” which is being considered as a replacement for the Foreign Sales Corp, generated a spirited debate over how Democrats and Republicans view the economy and international trade. In the end, the Republicans prevailed, arguing that restricting government procurement to U.S. companies and workers would create retaliation among trading partners. They argued that such legislation was “isolationist” and would likely cost the U.S. economy more jobs than it protects. Dodd’s proposal was eviscerated.
http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/04/0319/art1.html
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Chas
Posted October 25, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink
Swiss researchers have discovered that women who drink copious amounts of coffee, or caffeine, discover that the size of their breasts shrink over time….
In other related research, they have also discovered that drinking many quarts of beer can make the breasts grow larger….
In the eyes of the guy drinking the beer…
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What size are your breasts Chas?
The public wants to know.
2004 statistics say that Kansas CIty MO and 11 other US cities have a higher homicide rate per capita than Chicago…
http://www.toronto.ca/quality_of_life/safety.htm
Don’t even DARE to see how US cities compare with Canadian cities…
littlejohn posted October 25, 2008 at 11:37 am
Republican workers drop atempt at vote fraud. Oh, sorry, wrong party.
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So the McCain staffers in Ohio, who will leave Ohio once the election is over, are going to vote in Ohio?
‘Prosecutor willing to go after McCain, Obama staffers along with other out-of-staters’
http://blog.dispatch.com/politics/2008/10/prosecutor_going_after_mccain.shtml
“But O’Brien sees no difference between the Brownlee house residents and campaign staffers who will leave Ohio once the election is over. “Everyone will be treated equally, whichever side of the fence you’re one,’’ he said.”
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 25, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink
littlejohn posted October 25, 2008 at 11:37 am
Republican workers drop atempt at vote fraud. Oh, sorry, wrong party.
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So the McCain staffers in Ohio, who will leave Ohio once the election is over, are going to vote in Ohio?
‘Prosecutor willing to go after McCain, Obama staffers along with other out-of-staters’
http://blog.dispatch.com/politics/2008/10/prosecutor_going_after_mccain.shtml
“But O’Brien sees no difference between the Brownlee house residents and campaign staffers who will leave Ohio once the election is over. “Everyone will be treated equally, whichever side of the fence you’re one,’’ he said.”
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They have these things called absentee ballots.
I have one right now and will fill it out by the end of the day.
Because of my messed up spine, I don’t like to stand in long lines and use absentee ballots to get the job done.
I suppose the dunderheads from all parties should use absentee ballots to vote when they are in another state other than their own.
It’s a matter of using one’s head, common sense and not making an issue that really isn’t an issue when the correct answer is already known.
‘McCain Communications Director Gave Reporters Incendiary Version Of “Carved B” Story Before Facts Were Known’
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_aide_gave_reporters_inc.php
“John McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director told reporters in the state an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established — and even told reporters outright that the “B” carved into the victim’s cheek stood for “Barack,” according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions.”
generaston and those who know the details,
Were the companies/corporations that moved to China not making sufficient money and/or profitable in any way?
Do these companies/corporations pay U.S. taxes at all?
Are the products made in China and other countries now coming into the U.S. as imports with import charges paid by the consumers?
TIA
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin’s signature accomplishment — a contract to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48 — emerged from a flawed bidding process that narrowed the field to a company with ties to her administration, an Associated Press investigation shows.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline
PreD – looks like Sarah DEFINITELY knows how to be a “Mavarick”
Looks more like she’s the “Bonnie” to McCain’s “Clyde”!
Palin the reformer and maverick?
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin’s signature accomplishment — a contract to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48 — emerged from a flawed bidding process that narrowed the field to a company with ties to her administration, an Associated Press investigation shows.
Despite Palin’s boast of a smart and fair bidding process, the AP found that her team crafted terms that favored only a few independent pipeline companies and ultimately benefited the winner, TransCanada Corp.
And contrary to the ballyhoo, there’s no guarantee the pipeline will ever be built; at a minimum, any project is years away, as TransCanada must first overcome major financial and regulatory hurdles.
In interviews and a review of records, the AP found:
_Instead of creating a process that would attract many potential builders, Palin slanted the terms away from an important group — the global energy giants that own the rights to the gas.
_Despite promises and legal guidance not to talk directly with potential bidders, Palin had meetings or phone calls with nearly every major candidate, including TransCanada.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline
^5, mxyzptlk!
Why do Kansans vote for Republicans? Example: in 1981 when Reagan took office, Cessna employed 20,000 people. By 1986 that had been reduced to 3000.
Wake up people and get rid of the Republicans!
^5 !
This is for all duh Libs who have their opinions on the Alaskan pipeline. Evidently, the entire Alaskan legislature must be complicit with foul deeds as well (rolls eyes)
AGIA Passes, Palin Thanks Legislators Historic Day in Alaska
Or, Sarah didn’t do this alone
No. 08-131
August 1, 2008, Juneau, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today thanked lawmakers for passing House Bill 3001, legislation that authorizes the administration to award the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (AGIA) license to TransCanada Alaska (“TC Alaska”) to permit, develop and build a 1,715-mile natural gas pipeline from a natural gas treatment plant at Prudhoe Bay on the North Slope to the Alberta Hub in Canada. “This is a historic day in Alaska,” Governor Palin said. “Alaska’s potential to continue providing a safe, secure and domestic source of energy is great. I am proud of the hard work that went into this process from both the gasline team and the legislature. And I thank all our legislators for their tireless efforts.”
The TransCanada Alaska gasline will be the largest construction project in the history of North America. The TC Alaska line will ship 4.5 Billion cubic feet per day (Bcf/d) through the 48-inch diameter line. The line will also have the expansion capability of up to 5.9 Bcf/d. Further expansions would include a combination of additional compression and looping.
The Alaska section of the TC Alaska overland route will be mostly buried along the approximately 750 miles in length with six compressor stations at startup and five natural gas delivery points in Alaska.
The Governor continued, “Today, with the affirmative vote of both chambers of the Alaska State Legislature, we now begin a lifelong partnership with a company that has shown its true commitment to Alaska’s future.”
TransCanada Corporation has successfully constructed many natural gas pipelines and now operates more than 36,000 miles of natural gas pipelines in North America. TC Alaska’s project will provide positive economics to the state and federal governments, the major North Slope producers and to TC Alaska.
In its application, TransCanada Alaska commits to nearly two dozen must-haves which ensures that this project provides the most jobs for Alaskans, the most energy for Alaskans, and the greatest amount of revenue for the state.
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1375
ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (CNN)– With 10 days to go until election day, long brewing tension between Sarah Palin and key aides to John McCain has become so intense, it is spilling out into the public.
Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin “going rogue” recently, while a Palin associate says she is simply trying to “bust free” of what she believes was a mishandled roll-out that damaged her.
McCain sources point several incidents where Palin has gone off message, and privately wonder if they were deliberate. For example: labeling robo calls “irritating,” even as the campaign was defending the use of them and telling reporters she disagreed with the campaigns controversial decision to pull out of Michigan.
A second McCain source tells CNN she appears to now be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.
“She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone,” said this McCain adviser, “she does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else. Also she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: divas trust only unto themselves as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom.”
This bears repeating:
“She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone,” said this McCain adviser, “she does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else. Also she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: divas trust only unto themselves as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom.”
Seig Heil!!!
Regular posted October 25, 2008 at 1:25 pm
This is for all duh Libs who have their opinions on the Alaskan pipeline. Evidently, the entire Alaskan legislature must be complicit with foul deeds as well (rolls eyes)
AGIA Passes, Palin Thanks Legislators Historic Day in Alaska
Or, Sarah didn’t do this alone.
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Then Sarah Palin should not claim the pipeline, which possibly wont even be built, as her accomplishment.
‘AP INVESTIGATION: Palin pipeline terms curbed bids’
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline
“Gov. Sarah Palin’s signature accomplishment — a contract to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48 — emerged from a flawed bidding process that narrowed the field to a company with ties to her administration, an Associated Press investigation shows.”
‘Palin Administration: Portrait of Patronage‘
http://washingtonindependent.com/14713/palin-administration-portrait-of-patronage
“According to article, “all five Palin selections for the powerful Natural Gas Development Authority, which oversees a proposed gas pipeline project were donors” — a fact that may cloud the McCain campaign’s praise for Palin’s work in negotiating a $40-billion natural gas pipeline. If you stack the government’s deck with your supporters, how tough can the negotiations with the energy industry really be?
Palin’s friends from Wasilla also received choice appointments to the office of attorney general and to the state agricultural division. In the latter case, the woman appointed was previously a real-estate agent who cited a “childhood love of cows” as a qualification.”
Thats my point monkeyhawk, by increasing our corporate taxes and increasing regulation the guvment is FORCING companies out of the US IF they want to be competitive. How can a US company with all the regulations that are required going to be able to compete?
Plant A in the US builds widgets
Plant B in Canada builds widgets
Both are able to make their product and have about equal sales.
Then along comes Barry who says that we are going to increase the corporate tax. What is Plant A forced to do? Increase their price to cover the increased taxation.
NOW Plant B is able to sell their widgets cheaper then Plant A. Sales of widgets from Plant B increase and sales of widgets from Plant A drop.
So there YOU are in Plant C, you need widgets to build your Doohickeys. Who are YOU going to buy your widgets from???
Just like any consumer you are going to go for the cheapest price, so that YOU can remain competitive with Plant D.
So some people say, well we’ll just increase the tarif on Plant B to bring their widgets into the country.
Okay, so now you can either buy from Plant A or Plant B, it is now the same price. But guess what, the price of widgets to you went up, did they go up against Plant D, your competition?? Not to mention that YOUR corporate taxes went up also, so not only do you get to pay YOUR extra corporate taxes but NOW you get to pay Plant A’s corporate tax hike also or pay the tarif placed on Plant B. Which one?
Yes, this is a very simple way of looking at it, but this is what Barry says he is gonna do. Raise the corporate tax so the corporations pay more taxes AND anyone who makes more than 250K gets to pay also.
HOW IS THIS GONNA HELP???
For those that want the tarif’s increased? How would you like to pay 65-70 dollars for a toaster?
How about 80-90 dollars for a coffee maker?
generaston
Posted October 25, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
For those that want the tarif’s increased? How would you like to pay 65-70 dollars for a toaster?
How about 80-90 dollars for a coffee maker?
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I pay more than that now. What’s your point?
generaston posted October 25, 2008 at 9:51 am
Oh and lets not forget the tax increase because I make more than 250,000.
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Oh you poor man . . .
Or, Sarah didn’t do this alone
So who were her accomplices? The Alaska legislature?
How many of them helped “slant the terms”?
Were some or all of them involved in procuring the information of all companies that could be considered for this task?
How many of them were involved in creating the terms?
What were the steps involved? Was the legislature given a short list of those companies Sarah, well, the best word would be “vetted”? Or did they have a full and complete list?
It all comes down to this:
At what point in the process did the legislature receive the information?
Aren’t those the questions that need to be asked and answered?
Maybe if Sarah Palin had stayed in Alaska, nobody would have dug into her political history. Oh, wait! The decision to investigate by Alaska’s Congress regarding “Troopergate” began BEFORE McCain chose her as his running mate.
Even in Alaska where everybody loves her, her numbers are dropping. Maybe she should keep all those new clothes. If the voters of Alaska should decide to impeach, she might need them for everyday wear. Maybe Todd and her connections to the oil companies can get her a job on the North Slope. At least she’d be dressed to the nines for it!
And remember that Sarah Palin is a “energy expert”, because she helped negotiate a nat gas pipeline that may not even be built. /sarcasm off
Looks like Palin had her own gobn.
“increasing regulation the guvment is FORCING companies out of the US IF they want to be competitive. How can a US company with all the regulations that are required going to be able to compete?”
Obama is going to give this big multi-nationals a 2,000 tax break for highering each American. Imagine what a great incentive THAT is! Why, that would make a CEO rich I tell ya. Filthy Rich!
Repubs periodically like to allow companies that have outsourced ‘repatriate’ their monies, at discount tax rates.
Damn I wrote highering when I should have written hiring. Product of public education and state sponsored socialist oriented higher education.
Cain’t have everything.
Bilious Sebelius is spending lavish time and money pushing a Shawnee County DA candidate, Taylor, with no experience, never prosecuted a criminal case, running against Eric Rucker, who had 10 years experience in Dickinson County as county attorney before working in Phill Kline’s AG and DA offices, with a 90% conviction rate.
Bilious Sebelius must be doing it because she is deathly afraid that Rucker might try to prosecute the rampant abortion mill crime in Kansas, thus cutting into abortion mill profits, her favorite cash cow.
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The Governmental Ethics Commission has scheduled a post-election hearing for November 19 to determine whether abortionist quack Tiller’s Wichita-based ProKanDo PAC should be fined up to $15,000 for not complying fully with the state’s campaign finance reporting laws. Who is being covered up?
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Leftist, baby-hating Sedgwick County DA Foulston, in the pocket of abortionist quack Tiller for years, went on a $105,000 decorating binge in the DA’s office during the last 3 years, bilking taxpayers for several pieces of furniture worth over $1000 each, amongst other thievery.
Foulston has also been refusing to prosecute drug dealers caught red-handed, and letting child rapists and drunk drivers off easy.
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Tuesday’s fifth annual Pro-life Day of Silent Solidarity in America’s high schools and colleges saved at least 32 babies from mangling, dismembering, poisoning, and beheading in abortion mills.
Some of the participating pro-life students were mocked and teased by teachers, other students and even sport coaches. Was it worth it, folks?
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Chicago’s Obamanation-land WLS TV station is refusing to air a pro-life ad depicting a baby’s growth and behavior during the first trimester. Other ABC networks are showing the ad, however.
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Leftist, baby-hating Sen. Chucky Schumer and DNC Chairman Howard “Howler” Dean lamely attempted to defend Obamanation’s votes in the Illinois Senate against requiring medical care for living babies born alive in botched abortions, claiming that treating born-alive babies as human beings with rights would somehow conflict with the U.S. Supreme “court” abominable Roe. v. Wade ruling.
Dean also lied about the number of abortions not going down under elected Republicans and about mothers going to prison for illegal abortions.
[This will give you some idea about how liberal, baby-hating Democrats think that the leftist, activist federal judges they appoint can toss out the Fourteenth Amendment.]
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“Health care, education, economic security, immigration, and taxes are very important concerns. Neglect of any one of them has dire consequences as the recent financial crisis demonstrates. However, the solutions to problems in these areas do not usually involve a rejection of the sanctity of human life in the way that abortion does. National Right to Life reports that 48.5 million abortions have been performed since 1973. One would be too many. No war, no natural disaster, no illness or disability has claimed so great a price. No social issue has caused the death of 50 million people. This is madness, people.”
. . . from a letter by Scranton, PA Bishop Joseph F. Martino, indicating that no votes for pro-abortion political candidates are permissible in any circumstances, under Catholic teaching
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“Our democratic institutions are founded upon the premise that there are certain inalienable rights, including the right to life. Without that, other campaign issues like the economy and the war in Iraq mean nothing.”
. . . Archbishop Joseph Naumann, of the Archdiocese of Kansas City, at Tuesday’s speech at the Dole Institute at KU
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Vindicating pro-life warnings, in addition to allowing the creation of chimeras by combining human and animal tissue in embryos, Brits now intend to legalize human cloning without informed consent, with an amendment authorizing taking tissue from children, those in comas, or those with dementia who are incapable of understanding what is being proposed. The amendment also allows cloning from tissue previously donated for unrelated reasons by donors who can no longer be traced.
How’s your YUCK factor?
Obamanation economic policy: tax the rich, redistribute the wealth, gut the military, fund Planned Parenthood abortion mills, fund schoolchildren indoctrination.
Obamanation isn’t black, he’s red; that’s why he’s moving Democrats left, into becoming a new socialist party.
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By not filing before the deadline the answers or objections to a federal lawsuit demanding a valid birth certificate and proof of natural-born citizenship, the defense has admitted everything. Obama admits he was born in Kenya. He admits he was adopted in Indonesia. He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States.
Obamanation’s paternal grandmother also confirms his birth in Kenya in 1961.
[Imagine the outrage and shame amongst so-called journalists when Obamanation is disqualified as a presidential candidate!]
Where DO you get this sh*t, Parkay? Are you just delusional or what?
Obama is going to be your next president…so get over it.
I Owe My Interest in American Politics to Sarah Palin
Before the late-August morning when I awakened to learn that Alaska’s moose-hunting governor would be John McCain’s running mate, I had less than tepid interest in politics.
I was a stubbornly proud non-voter, a 41-year-old patriotic American unwilling to tie any of my identity to a political party or ideology. Politics, from my view, were nothing more than an excuse for unabashed public dishonesty.
When presidential politics provoked Barack Obama to disavow the minister who filled in the holes created by Obama’s irresponsible biological father, it confirmed in my mind that Obama’s message of political change wouldn’t stretch nearly far enough to meet my standard of courage and honesty.
It sickens me that we are forced to pretend Obama doesn’t have the ability to associate with and even love people with extreme, illogical views, denounce those beliefs in words and deed and remain a rational, fair-minded person. For decades, black people have supported and respected elected white officials who were raised by unrepentant racists, and we are expected to take those white politicians at their word that their parents’ views don’t interfere with their motivation to be fair.
Hmm. But now I’m supposed to believe that a half black man who owes his entire existence to his white mama and grandparents is a threat to America because his old black minister can’t get over the racism he tasted first-hand.
I wanted Barack to make that point, more subtly than I just made it. But I wanted it out there for everyone to deal with. America is full of white and black Jeremiah Wrights, and a good president has to lead them all.
Then along came Paris Palin, and her attempt to purchase the highest level of political power completely on credit.
more at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-whitlock/i-owe-my-interest-in-amer_b_137268.html?page=2
A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is “not confident we can get a fair election” in the state come November….
“Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board” with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. “Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election.”
“Voter fraud is no longer just a Philadelphia problem,” Gleason said, with ACORN targeting key counties across the state.
Asked whether the Pennsylvania State Democratic Party had come forward to work with the GOP on the ACORN voter fraud issue, Gleason tersely shook his head. One source did say that much of the impetus for the fraud was “an Obama effort,” as opposed to the Democratic Party as an institution….
Is it really possible that the presidency could be stolen for Obama by virtue of a massive voter fraud here in Pennsylvania? And elsewhere? ACORN seems to think so….
Newman, the retired Supreme Court Justice, was blunt on the evidence: “I don’t want a president who does this.”
ACORN clearly does. Makes you wonder: why?
As much as 25% of all ACORN registrations in PA fraudulent.
http://texashillblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/13/as-much-as-25-of-all-acorn-voter-registrations-in-pa-fraudulent/
Wednesday, October 22, 2008
Four More ACORN Workers Arrested For Fraud And You’re shocked, I’m sure.
FBI finds many early ballots in Ohio fraudulent…more arrests expected among ACORN and other “community organizer” groups.
Just wait. Some of those arrested are going to talk and spill the beans.
ACORN=OBAMA
OOps. There goes the millions ACORN claims to have registered:
Group’s Tally of New Voters Was Vastly Overstated
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By MICHAEL FALCONE and MICHAEL MOSS
Published: October 23, 2008
On Oct. 6, the community organizing group Acorn and an affiliated charity called Project Vote announced with jubilation that they had registered 1.3 million new voters. But it turns out the claim was a wild exaggeration, and the real number of newly registered voters nationwide is closer to 450,000, Project Vote’s executive director, Michael Slater, said in an interview.
The remainder are registered voters who were changing their address and roughly 400,000 that were rejected by election officials for a variety of reasons, including duplicate registrations, incomplete forms and fraudulent submissions from low-paid field workers trying to please their supervisors, Mr. Slater acknowledged.
McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN-sponsored event in Miami on Feb. 20, 2006 in support of comprehensive immigration reform.
“Four More ACORN Workers Arrested For Fraud And You’re shocked, I’m sure.” — American_Way
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I’m tickled pink! Let’s catch them all, let’s not allow any attempts to register voters fraudulently succeed! One more story ensuring our elections will be more fair! Keep em comin’, it’s working!
The is no evidence that those who turned in bogus voter registrations will have any impact or be able to perpetrate fraud on the actual vote.
Obama will be your next president, American…get over it.
I totally agree, Linda! Let’s take care of all the fraud now, so there won’t be any question who the clear winner is after Nov. 4th.
“no evidence that those who turned in bogus voter registrations will have any impact or be able to perpetrate fraud on the actual vote.”
Here we go again. Let’s wait until after the election to find out. We all enjoyed the last time we waited on the Supreme Court to decide for us, didn’t we?
And if your guy is going to win – why cheat?
ACORN ALL DEMOCRATS>ACORN ALL OBAMA>ACORN ALL FRAUD!!!
ACORN ALL DEMOCRATS>ACORN ALL OBAMA>ACORN ALL FRAUD!!!
Hum, anybody detect a pattern here!
Accept de feet GOP, the message and messengers stink.
Playing up his ties to the area as a senator from the neighboring state of Arizona, John McCain pitched himself to New Mexico voters as the candidate that best understands their issues.
“I’m a fellow westerner, I understand these issues, I understand land and water and Native American issues and border issues and I understand the challenges that a great, great western states face with our growth and our needs and our challenges,” McCain said. “Sen. Obama has never been south of our border, you know that? And he doesn’t know these issues. I know them, I know what the southwest is, I know the strength and the culture of our Hispanic culture and the strength of our great states.”
The problem for the McCain campaign is that less than 1,000 people heard him make this argument at his rally here, compared with the 40,000 that are expected to greet Barack Obama when he arrives in town this evening.
With every incident so far reported of touch-screen vote-flipping during early voting in this year’s general election — from county to county in WV and in Nashville, TN) — it’s been the ES&S iVotronic touch-screen machine that has failed, flipping votes from one candidate to another not chosen by the voter. In most every instances [see update below], it’s been an attempted Democratic vote, flipped to a Republican, or another party.
These are the same machines that lost 18,000 votes in Democratic-leaning Sarasota County in the 2006 U.S. House Race for Katherine Harris’ old seat. The Democrat, Christine Jennings, was declared the loser to Republican Vern Buchanan (whose own wife had trouble voting for him that day), by just 369 votes. Several academic studies, and even the GAO, have been unable to rule out either tampering or hardware/software error for the disappeared 18,000 votes.
As we wrote earlier this week, after there was finally one report of a vote flipping from Democratic to Republican in TN (a very rare instance, btw), these machines need to be taken out of service now, impounded and quarantined immediately, and every voter needs to be given a paper ballot where these machines are currently being used. Voters who have such problems need to inform other voters waiting in line which machine should not be used (and we offer other tips below, as well).
At least two Palo Pinto County residents say they experienced early voting problems when the touch-screen voting machines they used kept switching their straight-party vote from Democratic to Republican.
“When I cast an early vote [Wednesday] at Palo Pinto County Courthouse, my vote was switched from Democrat to Republican right in front of my face – twice!” reported Lona Jones, a Precinct 1 county resident.
Intending to vote straight party on the Democratic ticket, Jones said she was surprised Wednesday when the electronic voting machine “on the left as you face the machines” in the courthouse basement asked her if she wanted to cast her vote for a straight Republican ticket.
Thinking she had pushed the wrong button the first time the machine “came up Republican,” Jones said she repeated her intended straight-party vote.
“The second time I was sure to just touch the Democratic button,” she said, further reporting that the machine responded to her selection, “‘Do you want to change your Republican straight ticket vote to a Democratic vote?’ I pressed, ‘Yes,’ then it came back up and it was a total Republican ticket again.”
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6559
Anything to win the election . . . by the Republicans.
In a déjà vu moment from Campaign 2006, President George W. Bush again is asking his Attorney General to launch an investigation into the registration of hundreds of thousands of new voters, many of whom are expected to vote Democratic.
Bush forwarded to Attorney General Michael Mukasey a Republican request that he intervene in the battleground state of Ohio to force 200,000 new voters to either verify the information on their registration forms or cast provisional ballots, which are often thrown out after the voter leaves the polling place.
Similarly, two years ago when Bush feared Democratic victories in congressional races, the President “spoke with Attorney General [Alberto] Gonzales in October 2006 about their concerns over voter fraud,” according to a Justice Department Inspector General’s reported released earlier this month.
In 2006, the White House and some congressional Republicans also put pressure on the Justice Department and U.S. Attorneys around the country to bring last-minute indictments against pro-Democratic voter registration drives.
When some federal prosecutors balked because they found a lack of evidence, they were purged as part of an unprecedented firing of nine U.S. Attorneys, who were deemed not “loyal Bushies.”
That “prosecutor-gate” scandal led to the resignations of several senior White House and Justice Department officials, including Attorney General Gonzales. President Bush then asserted broad executive privilege to block testimony by Karl Rove and other top White House officials.
Now, two years later, Bush is again putting the Justice Department in position to act on a new round of “voter fraud” suspicions pushed by Republican leaders and his favored successor, Sen. John McCain.
While the goal in 2006 was to salvage Republican control of Congress, Bush’s latest move appears aimed at keeping the White House in Republican hands.
Federal intervention – if ordered by Mukasey – could wreak havoc at polling places across Ohio, with Republican operatives using data on mismatches to challenge thousands of voters and causing long lines in Democratic strongholds.
House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, sent a letter to Bush asking for his extraordinary intervention after the U.S. Supreme Court refused to get involved in the Ohio dispute.
“Unless action is taken by the [Justice] Department immediately, thousands, if not tens or hundreds of thousands of names whose information has not been verified through the [Help America Vote Act] procedures mandated by Congress will remain on the voter rolls during the Nov. 4 election. …
“There is a significant risk if not a certainty, that unlawful votes will be cast and counted. Given the Election Day is less than two weeks away, immediate action by the Department is not only warranted, but also crucial.”
On Friday, White House spokesman Carlton Carroll said Bush had referred Boehner’s letter “to the Department of Justice for their review.”
Little Evidence
However, independent studies have shown that phony registrations rarely result in illegally cast ballots because there are so many other safeguards built into the system.
For instance, from October 2002 to September 2005, a total of 70 people were convicted for federal election related crimes, according to figures compiled by the New York Times last year. Only 18 of those were for ineligible voting.
In recent years, federal prosecutors reached similar conclusions despite pressure from the Bush administration to lodge “election fraud” charges against voter registration groups seen as bringing more Democratic voters into the democratic process.
Federal investigative guidelines also discourage election-related probes before ballots are cast because of the likelihood that the inquiries will become politicized and might influence the election outcomes.
“In most cases, voters should not be interviewed, or other voter-related investigation done, until after the election is over,” according to the Justice Department’s guidelines for election offenses.
In 2004, Republican-controlled Ohio was one state where voters complained that their votes cast on electronic voting machines for Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential candidate, were recorded for Bush.
Additionally, tens of thousands of voters were purged from voter registration rolls. Early exit polls showed Kerry leading Bush in Ohio, but Bush carried the state by 119,000 votes.
At issue now is a federal law – the Help America Vote Act, which was passed when Republicans dominated Congress in 2002 – that requires states to verify the eligibility of voters.
Lawsuit Filed
The Ohio Republican Party filed a lawsuit last month against Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, claiming that voter registration information for hundreds of thousands of new voters did not match official government data, such as Social Security records and driver’s licenses.
But in court filings, GOP officials did not provide documentary evidence to back up those claims. Voting advocates also note that many mismatches can be irrelevant, such as the use of a middle name in one form but not another or a typographical error in a database.
Still, Republicans faulted Brunner for her “steadfast refusal to provide the HAVA ‘mismatch’ data to the county boards of elections in a meaningful way.” They accused Brunner of violating federal election laws by “actively working to conceal fraudulent activity.”
Brunner said the lawsuit was “politically motivated” and could result in disenfranchisement of voters because of “misstated technical information or glitches in databases. …
“Many of those discrepancies bear no relationship whatsoever to a voter’s eligibility to vote a regular, as opposed to a provisional, ballot,” Brunner said, adding that mismatches “may well be used at the county level unnecessarily to challenge fully qualified voters and severely disrupt the voting process.”
Last week, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a lower court’s ruling that had favored the Republicans. The high court said lawsuits “brought by a private litigant” could not be used to force states to abide by federal laws.
Boehner then sought, via the letter to Bush, to have Mukasey force Brunner to comply with HAVA’s requirements.
Sen. McCain also has elevated the issue of irregularities in registration forms, saying during the third presidential debate that the grassroots group ACORN “is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy.”
Although McCain’s comment was largely hyperbole, it set the stage for widespread Republican challenges to new voters, what GOP critics say is just the latest chapter of a long history of Republican “voter suppression.”
Recent investigations launched against ACORN – now including the reported involvement of the FBI – have raised other concerns, especially that Republicans are flogging this issue in an effort to stir up anger, to revive McCain’s campaign, and to intimidate new voters. Boehner also wrote Bush on Wednesday asking him to block federal funding to ACORN.
Ohio’s 20 electoral votes could be crucial for McCain to achieve a comeback victory over his Democratic rival, Sen. Barack Obama, who is leading in Ohio by five to seven percentage points, according to most polls.
Republican success in disqualifying large numbers of new voters – while creating long lines in Democratic precincts – could tip Ohio into McCain’s column on Election Night.
On Friday, Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, said he was “disappointed” that Bush “chose to interject partisan politics into the election. My confidence in Secretary Brunner’s work remains unchanged. She will ensure that every eligible Ohio vote is counted.”
Brown asked Mukasey not to intervene in the matter.
US election: Republican operative faces voter registration fraud charges
Accusations come on the heels of Republican John McCain’s fraud attacks against community organisation Acorn
* Elana Schor in Washington
* guardian.co.uk,
* Wednesday October 22 2008 14.44 BST
* Article history
While John McCain has attacked the liberal US community group Acorn for alleged voter registration fraud, the Republican party continues to employ operatives facing fraud accusations including one who faces criminal perjury charges.
Democrats are accusing McCain of hypocrisy after the weekend arrest of Mark Jacoby, a California Republican operative. Jacoby has been accused of voter registration fraud after registering himself to vote at two homes where he did not live.
The arrest comes after McCain and running mate Sarah Palin attempted to tie Barack Obama’s campaign to Acorn, playing up a federal investigation of the group’s voter registration tactics in several states.
“Over the past few weeks we’ve heard John McCain denounce voter fraud on the campaign trail while the [Republican party] hurls false attacks, so the question is: where is the outrage now?” Democratic spokesman Karen Finney asked yesterday.
Jacoby is the second Republican operative revealed this week to possess a questionable record on voter registration. Nathan Sproul – who has been investigated by Congress for allegedly destroying voter registration forms and intimidating voters – got paid $175,000 by the McCain camp this year.
“The Republicans [and] the McCain campaign have been hammering away for weeks with the same old Washington politics,” Democratic party lawyer Joe Sandler said in a statement.
“In fact, none of the charges that they’ve been talking about have actually panned out.”
Democrats called on McCain to cut his ties to both voter-registration operatives, citing frequent Republican attacks on Acorn. Obama represented Acorn as an attorney years before beginning his political career, and the group has endorsed him this year, but his camp has denied any link to Acorn’s voter-registration activities.
The California Republican party told a local newspaper yesterday that their contract with Jacoby ended this week, after the state’s voter registration period expired. No announcement has been made about the renewal of the contract.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/22/uselections2008-republicans
“Obama will be your next president, American…get over it.”
Has nothing to do with Obama being the next president to me. I already won my campaign.
But this has to do with the fundamentals of our democracy.
Everything else we hold dear, and profess with our American Way of life – is based upon free and fair elections. Everything.
John McCain paid $175,000 of campaign money to a Republican operative accused of massive voter registration fraud in several states, it has emerged.
As the McCain camp attempts to tie Barack Obama to claims of registration irregularities by the activist group ACORN, campaign finance records detailing the payment to the firm of Nathan Sproul, investigated several times for fraud, threatens to derail that argument.
The documents show that a joint committee of the McCain-Palin campaign, the Republican National Committee and the California Republican Party, made the payment to Lincoln Strategy, of which Mr Sproul is the managing partner, for the purposes of “voter registration”.
Mr Sproul has been investigated on numerous occasions for preventing Democrats from voting, destroying registration forms and leading efforts to get Ralph Nader on ballots to leach the Democratic vote.
In October last year, the House Judiciary Committee wrote to the Attorney General requesting answers regarding a number of allegations against Mr Sproul’s firm, then known as Sproul and Associates. It referred to evidence that ahead of the 2004 national elections, the firm trained staff only to register Republican voters and destroyed any other registration cards, citing affidavits from former staff members and investigations by television news programmes.
One former worker testified that “fooling people was key to the job” and that “canvassers were told to act as if they were non-partisan, to hide that they were working for the RNC, especially if approached by the media,” according to the committee’s letter. It also cited reports from public libraries across the country that the firm had asked to set up voter registration tables claiming it was working on behalf of the non-partisan group America Votes, though in fact no such link existed.
Such activities “clearly suppress votes and violate the law”, wrote John Conyers, the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. The letter suggested that the Judiciary Department had failed to take sufficient action on the allegations because of the politicisation of the department under the then-attorney general, John Ashcroft.
The career of Mr Sproul, a former leader of the Arizona Republican Party, is littered with accusations of foul play. In Minnesota in 2004, his firm was accused of sacking workers who submitted Democratic registration forms, while other canvassers were allegedly paid bonuses for registering Bush voters. There were similar charges in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon and Nevada.
That year, Mr Sproul’s firm was paid $8,359,161 by the Republican Party, according to a 2005 article in the Baltimore Chronicle, which claimed that this was far more than what had been reported to the Federal Elections Commission.
Mr McCain and his running mate Sarah Palin have been linking allegations of registration fraud by ACORN, the community group, to the Obama campaign.
ACORN has been accused of registering non-existent voters during its nationwide drive, with reports of cartoon characters such as Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse being signed up.
The organisation insisted that these are isolated incidents carried out by a handful of workers who have since been dismissed.
However, the Republican nominee insists that the group is involved in fraudulent activities, noting that Mr Obama, before leaving the legal profession to enter politics, was once part of a team which defended the organisation. At last week’s debate, he said that ACORN was “perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history”, a claim which the Obama campaign says represents political smear.
The revelation of Mr Sproul’s involvement with the McCain campaign – he has also donated $30,000 to the ticket and received at least another $37,000 directly from the RNC – could undermine his case.
“It should certainly take away from McCain’s argument,” Bob Grossfeld, an Arizona political consultant who has watched Mr Sproul’s career closely, told the Huffington Post. “Without knowing anything of what is going on with ACORN, there is a clear history with Mr Sproul either going over the line or sure as hell kicking dirt on it, and doing it for profit and usually fairly substantive profit.”
In May this year, both ACORN and Mr Sproul were discussed at a hearing of the House subcommittee on commercial and administrative law. One Republican member, Congressman Chris Cannon, concluded: “The difference between ACORN and Sproul is that ACORN doesn’t throw away or change registration documents after they have been filled out.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4992730.ece
Officials in Oregon have launched a criminal investigation after receiving numerous complaints that a Republican-affiliated group was destroying registration forms filed by Democratic voters statewide, Oregon Secretary of State Bill Bradbury told CBSNews.com.
Meanwhile, CBS affiliate KLAS-TV is reporting accusations of similar malfeasance in Nevada.
Both state’s allegations are linked to a Phoenix political consulting firm called Sproul & Associates run by Nathan Sproul, former head of the Arizona Republican Party. Sproul & Associates has received nearly $500,000 from the Republican National Committee this election cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Calls from CBSNews.com to Sproul were not returned.
Late Thursday afternoon, two Democratic senators, Patrick Leahy of Vermont and Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, sent a letter to Attorney General John Ashcroft asking the Justice Department to “launch an immediate investigation into the activities of Mr. Sproul and his firm.”
According to KLAS-TV, a former employee claimed hundreds, if not thousands, of Democratic registration forms were destroyed by a Sproul & Associates group called Voters Outreach of America.
The former employee first told local Nevada reporters that he had personally witnessed his boss shredding eight to ten voter registration forms, according to Steve George, a spokesman for the Nevada Secretary of State.
KLAS-TV quotes the chair of the Nevada Republican Committee, Earlene Forsythe, as saying, “The Republican National Party would never intentionally hire any staff people to come into the state to intentionally do voter fraud.”
While Nevada is considering an investigation, Oregon’s is well underway. Bradbury expects to have more than 200,000 new registered voters in Oregon by Election Day, when all the forms are tallied and verified. He said that they are now paying particular attention to issues of improper registration.
“We’ve had three [voter registration] complaints filed and we forwarded them to the attorney general who’s doing the criminal investigation,” Bradbury, a Democrat, said in an interview. “The complaints specifically name Sproul.”
In Nevada and Oregon, Sproul allegedly canvassed voters for which candidate they intend to support. If voters were leaning Republican, the group is said to have assisted in their registration. If they leaned Democratic, the group allegedly ignored them or later destroyed the form.
It is illegal to destroy voting registration material.
“I’ve never seen this before. The allegations that are being made just totally offend me, not only because they are illegal,” Bradbury said. “Regardless of whether it is a Democratic, Republican or Independent form, there is no better way to disenfranchise a voter than to say you are registered and then throw away a voter registration form.”
Both Oregon and Nevada are considered battleground states in the presidential election. Though polls show Oregon likely to go to Democrat John Kerry, Nevada remains a dead heat between Kerry and President Bush.
Concerns over Sproul’s practices were initially raised in early September when a Medford, Oregon, county librarian, Meghan O’Flaherty, received a fax from Sproul requesting to hold a voter registration drive at the local library on behalf of a nonpartisan group called America Votes. As a precaution, O’Flaherty did her own research on Sproul.
“I was just being a good reference librarian and checking the facts. We want to be sure someone who claims to be nonpartisan is nonpartisan,” O’Flaherty said. “I didn’t want anything going on here in the library that would call into question our neutrality.”
The fax from Sproul was also received by three other Oregon libraries. CBSNews.com obtained a copy of the fax, as well.
In part, the fax reads: “Our firm has been contracted to help coordinate a national nonpartisan voter registration drive, America Votes!, in several states across the nation.” The one-page fax also claims, “We will equally register all those who wish to register to vote.”
However, Cecile Richards, the president of America Votes, said in a letter to Sproul that he “had never even heard of Sproul & Associates,” and asked that “he refrain from using the name ‘America Votes’ in any of your activities from this point forward.”
Part of the problem, said Bradbury, the Oregon secretary of state, is the “bounty system” where people are “paid by the signature for circulating petitions and that led to significant fraud.”
“I have not seen a bounty system for voter registration before,” Bradbury continued. “It’s not illegal but I’ve never seen that before.”
In Nevada, the allegations of voter registration malfeasance have irked local election officials. The Nevada Secretary of State’s office has contacted the Department of Justice in Washington. An investigation is not yet underway.
“The allegations are that there was a group that was doing voter outreach in Las Vegas – Voters Outreach of America – allegedly made by one of its former workers that the group would destroy Democratic voter registration forms,” said George, the spokesman for the Nevada Secretary of State’s office.
In Las Vegas, the Clark County registrar’s office has in the last month alone received more than 100,000 new registrations. Though it has only five electoral votes, the possibility that Nevada could go for either Bush or Kerry has brought the state to the forefront of the presidential race.
“If the allegations are true,” George said “it could” involve hundreds if not thousands of voter registration forms. “We are looking at what state and federal laws may have been broken.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/14/politics/main649380.shtml
Boxlock
Posted October 25, 2008 at 4:28 pm | Permalink
ACORN ALL DEMOCRATS>ACORN ALL OBAMA>ACORN ALL FRAUD!!!
Hum, anybody detect a pattern here!
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Yes! Boxlock is a lunatic!
Parkay LIES >>>>>
“Leftist, baby-hating Sedgwick County DA Foulston, in the pocket of abortionist quack Tiller for years, went on a $105,000 decorating binge in the DA’s office during the last 3 years, bilking taxpayers for several pieces of furniture worth over $1000 each….”
Yo, parkay, et al, inc. >>>>
The office furnishings are NOT FOULSTON’S… The furnishings are property of the COUNTY, you dumb ding dong!!!
If you dont like it, why dont you take it up with the County Commissioners, instead of wasting Blog space here???
Besides, we know you are just the front name for a right wing HATE group!! Go peddle your hate somewhere else!! I can see plainly that Vatican II meant nothing to your kind….
Old news Walker. Want to post convictions and plea bargains by each organization committing voter fraud?
My posts are hot off the press from the upcoming election and 2008 cycle. I have and can fill tonights thread with prior year ACORN information.
Do you think it’s as relevant as your old news?
AND — Since those furnishings belong to the County, that would mean that those SAME furnishings belong to the TAXPAYERS!!!
I might add that the same can be said for Ms. Palin’s clothes, AND her refurbishing of the governor’s office in Alaska…
We do have to be fair on that one….
yea, and keep posting the same four arrests over and over and it looks like something!! whahahhahahah
RNC and actually destroying Democrat voter registration cards. Anybody see a pattern here?
By the way, ACORN turns in every voter registration card, regardless of what’s on it, because that is a federal law. The RNC is paying operatives to destroy Democrat voter registration cards, a direct violation of federal law. The proof is in the above posts:
“Part of the problem, said Bradbury, the Oregon secretary of state, is the “bounty system” where people are “paid by the signature for circulating petitions and that led to significant fraud.””
Those people collecting voter registration cards are paid per card by Voters Outreach of America, an outfit directly paid by the RNC.
Voting should be totally transparent, and both parties have their hands dirty on this, but you’ll never get the cons to admit it.
ACORN=Voters Outreach of America=voter fraud: Democrat and Republican.
AMWAY… please engage your brain before typing…. IF all of those fraudulent “registrations” have been CAUGHT… That means they WILL NOT BE REGISTERED to vote….
AND, even if ACORN knows they are phony, State law requires that they be turned in to the Election office anyway…
I have now twice posted a perfectly reasonable solution to this voter registration problem… Why dont you go back a few days, and look for it…
OR, I might post it again, if somebody would request it….
Thank you….
“all” is a big word. Have “all” the fraudulent registrations nationwide, and in particular the twelve states ACORN targeted this year (the boderline states which will be close)been caught?
The answer is clearly no. Hundreds of thousands of new registrations remain to be checked. In one state, Ohio alone, there are over 200,000 questionable new registration cards.
ACORN has been found guilty many times before, and it is no coincidence they are being investigated in the dozen states. Once a liar, always a liar.
Stating the requirement to turn in all signed election registration forms – is not justification for your ACORN members having Mickey Mouse registered on fifty of them. Nor the Dallas Cowboys, nor a 7 year old girl in Florida.
Sorry, you can’t pass the blame onto anyone other than the one collecting the fraudulent registration forms.
ACORN=Voters Outreach of America=voter fraud: Democrat and Republican.
Except that ACORN has publicly endorsed Obama. Come on Walker, you are better than that.
Walker and if you have the RNC as guilty as the DNC, I am equally ticked off. (Why that matters or needs to be stated I dunno, because I have stated my dissatsifaction with the republican party many, many times).
merican_Way
Posted October 25, 2008 at 4:51 pm | Permalink
Old news Walker. Want to post convictions and plea bargains by each organization committing voter fraud?
My posts are hot off the press from the upcoming election and 2008 cycle. I have and can fill tonights thread with prior year ACORN information.
Do you think it’s as relevant as your old news?
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Sure do, amway. Try the Republicans being sent off with their tails between their legs by the Supreme Court over their attempt to squash Voter registration in Ohio:
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) _ State and federal courts cleared the way Monday for a weeklong period in which new voters can register and cast an absentee ballot on the same day in Ohio, a defeat for Republicans who challenged it.
The early voting window, which begins Tuesday, became a partisan battle in this swing state where President Bush narrowly clinched re-election in 2004.
The court decisions were a victory for Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat who was criticized by Republicans for telling county election boards to allow same-day registration and voting through Oct. 6.
“This ruling is a victory for all Ohio voters,” Brunner said in a statement. “It should send a message to the forces of confusion and chaos that our top goal must be protecting Ohioans’ voting rights.”
The Ohio Republican Party didn’t say if it would appeal.
The state GOP and some Republican voters had argued in separate lawsuits that Ohio law requires voters to be registered for 30 days before they cast an absentee ballot.
A Lake County judge appointed by the late Gov. Frank O’Bannon was chosen to hear a politically charged lawsuit over the opening of satellite absentee voting centers in Gary, Hammond and East Chicago.
Indiana Supreme Court Chief Justice Randall Shepard signed an order designating Lake Superior Court Judge Diane Kavadias Schneider to hear the case in which Republicans are seeking to shut down the voting centers in the largely Democratic urban centers on grounds they will increase the likelihood of vote fraud.
The other four Supreme Court justices concurred with Shepard, court spokeswoman Kathryn Dolan said.
Kavadias Schneider scheduled a hearing in the case for Monday.
O’Bannon, a Democrat, named Kavadias Schneider to the Lake County bench in 2000.
She was among three judges nominated to take over the case Wednesday by Lake Superior Court Judge Calvin Hawkins, who last week had granted Republicans an order barring the opening of the early voting centers while their legality was debated in the courts.
The Supreme Court got involved when a different Lake County judge, Circuit Court’s Lorenzo Arredondo, ordered the satellite voting centers opened Tuesday. They have remained open since.
The Supreme Court also allowed an attorney representing Democrats and labor unions to remove the case from Hawkins, who was appointed by Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels.
The Democratically controlled election board voted 3-2 to open the satellite early voting centers, and Republicans sued to close them because any decision to open additional early voting centers required a unanimous vote. Democrats have said no unanimous vote was needed because the satellite centers are located in branches of the county clerk’s offices.
Republican presidential candidates for 40 years had been able to count on winning Indiana, but that changed this year when Democratic nominee Barack Obama, from nearby Chicago, targeted the state’s 11 electoral votes. Polls show the race a tossup in Indiana.
A strong showing in Lake County, next to Chicago, is key to an Obama victory, but vote-counting there already has come under national scrutiny once this year. In May, late returns delayed the results of the presidential primary between Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, who won by a narrow margin.
Meanwhile, Deputy Indiana Attorney General Richard Bramer on Thursday rejected a request from Indiana Secretary of State Todd Rokita to investigate possible vote fraud in Lake County involving the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. Bramer said it was a matter best left to county prosecutors and the U.S. Department of Justice.
Senior law enforcement officials told The Associated Press on Thursday that the FBI was investigating the community activist group. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because Justice Department regulations forbid discussing ongoing investigations particularly so close to an election.
Jess Ordower, Midwest director of ACORN, has said he believes his group is being targeted because some politicians don’t want that many low-income people having a voice.
Mrage posted October 25, 2008 at 4:29 pm
The problem for the McCain campaign is that less than 1,000 people heard him make this argument at his rally here, compared with the 40,000 that are expected to greet Barack Obama when he arrives in town this evening.
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And here’s why.
‘Remarks for Obama in Reno, Nevada Saturday’
http://thepage.time.com/remarks-for-obama-in-reno-nevada-saturday/
I didnt claim ACORN is blameless… They hire duds to do their work for them… That doesnt change the FACT that all registrations that they receive HAVE to be turned in… They cant even throw out the Mickey/Minnie Mouse crap, or the Dallas Cowboys crap… LAW requires that if they are brought that registration, then THEY have to turn it in…
I am fully aware that the LAW puts a heavy burden on the Election officials…
Mickey Mouse will not turn out to vote… Nor will the Dallas Cowboys all show up in Nevada to vote…
Why do you keep FLAMING something that you know damned well is nothing but a distraction…. After all, YOU are the one who said “once a liar, always a liar”… Does that include all of the LIES you have been spouting about Obama???
Hmmm????
“Justice Department regulations forbid discussing ongoing investigations ”
So who leaked?
Again Walker, no fraud by the republicans – only an interest in preserving the democracy vote, due to the ACORN fraud running rampant.
These are reactions. Not actions. THe ACORN fraud, leads to legal actions to stop it.
No one. No one is questioning the rights of citizens to vote.
Fraud is the subject of my posts.
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American_Way
Posted October 25, 2008 at 5:05 pm | Permalink
ACORN=Voters Outreach of America=voter fraud: Democrat and Republican.
Except that ACORN has publicly endorsed Obama. Come on Walker, you are better than that.
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The only reason voters outreach of America hasn’t publicly endorsed McCain is because what they are doing is illegal.
I suggest googling voters outreach of America and find out just what a POS Republican outfit it really is. As I said, you Republicans are so far in denial, you’ll never be able to see it.
American_Way posted October 25, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Sorry, you can’t pass the blame onto anyone other than the one collecting the fraudulent registration forms.
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Thank you for pointing out that the blame is on the employees, NOT on ACORN.
Does that include all of the LIES you have been spouting about Obama???
Which ones to which are you referring?
Obama sucks. But so does McCain. I’m down on Obama because he will drown us in socialism and his extreme leftist views. But I’ll take him over Hillary anyday. That was my election win.
So I’m posting about Obama and his ties to ACORN, which are true. So what?
Showing how uninformed and just plain stupid many Obama supports are.
Got’a listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg
‘What Did The McCain Campaign Know And When Did They Know It? ‘
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/24/21120/488/282/641455
“. . . The McCain campaign’s denial raises more questions than it answers.”
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American_Way
Posted October 25, 2008 at 5:11 pm | Permalink
Again Walker, no fraud by the republicans – only an interest in preserving the democracy vote, due to the ACORN fraud running rampant.
These are reactions. Not actions. THe ACORN fraud, leads to legal actions to stop it.
No one. No one is questioning the rights of citizens to vote.
Fraud is the subject of my posts.
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Tearing up filled out voter registration cards, no matter what party affiliation, is a violation of federal law. Voter outreach of America is guilty of violation federal voter laws. But again, you’ll never be able to admit it, as you are so far up the con brown dirt road, you have no concept of what constitutes the truth.
So keep up with the Acorn crap, because we all know, out of little ACORNS big oak trees grow, and that big oak tree is black and the next President.
Showing how uninformed and just plain stupid many McCain supporters are:
American_Way posted October 25, 2008 at 5:14 pm
“I’m down on Obama because he will drown us in socialism and his extreme leftist views.”
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Boxlock
Posted October 25, 2008 at 5:15 pm | Permalink
Showing how uninformed and just plain stupid many McCain supports are.
Got’a read this:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_aide_gave_reporters_inc.php
Great post, Cosmos…. Would that everybody in the nation would read those words…
Cosmos
The link you posted to above is not long and merits full air here as opposed to invite to click.
“What Did The McCain Campaign Know And When Did They Know It?
by BarbinMD
Fri Oct 24, 2008 at 07:48:39 PM PDT
Just how involved in pushing the now discredited fake attack story was the McCain campaign? Remember, before the police had released any details on the alleged attack, it was being reported that:
The McCain campaign later retracted their claims, and now tonight, are denying they were the source of the quotes in the first place. But that claim is flatly contradicted by the two reporters involved in the story:
Tonight McCain spokesman Brian Rogers denied the campaign gave out those quotes, telling Countdown, “They came from the police and were attributed to the McCain camp because of sloppy reporting.” An account that does not explain why two television stations both quoted the McCain campaign, or the fact that one of them, KDKA Pittsburgh, specifically followed the McCain quotes with the line, quote, “Police, however, have not confirmed that.” And tonight Countdown asked the reporter from the other station, WPXI, to check his notes. He says he got those quotes first, 4:08 pm yesterday, from McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director.”
So, reporters from two different television stations say that McCain’s camp was pushing the hoax BEFORE the police even finished their investigation?
And the McCain camp says it is sloppy reporting?
I think I’ll believe TWO information sources who depend upon their accuracy in reporting as part of their business over a campaign official whose ONLY business is getting his candidate elected. In this case, apparently by any means necessary.
This merits further investigation and probably explains why the hoaxer is still in jail.
All the CONservatives here have been asking, “Where’s Biden?”
Here’s your answer:
Biden completed his 170th interview Friday night in the two months since becoming a vice presidential candidate, according to a tally by his staff. He’s been a constant McCain critic and has been on television at critical moments, such as going on all the networks after every presidential debate while Palin was declining to do interviews.
and more at… http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/biden
Latest mccain camp lie:
“Well, my friends, when I pull this thing off I have a request for my opponent. I want him to save that manuscript of his inaugural address and donate it to the Smithsonian and put it right next to the Chicago paper that said ‘Dewey defeats Truman,” McCain said.
The Obama campaign said McCain’s charge was “completely false.” A campaign official said by email: “The ‘address’ is from a book John Podesta wrote before Obama was the nominee. It’s not a sample address for Obama. It’s a sample address he wrote for whoever became the nominee.”
Mccain campaign is so much like bush’s, it’s hard to tell them apart, except for the fact that the public for the most part has wised up.
Don’t cry now, the fringe rw party has swung the pendulum so far to the right that the swing to the left is inevitable.
Maybe the country, nay, the world can yet be salvaged.
parkay
Posted October 25, 2008 at 3:19 pm | Permalink
By not filing before the deadline the answers or objections to a federal lawsuit demanding a valid birth certificate and proof of natural-born citizenship, the defense has admitted everything. Obama admits he was born in Kenya. He admits he was adopted in Indonesia. He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States.
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Berg’s case got thrown out of court today. No more lawsuit about Obama’s birth certificate for republicans to cry about. It’s over (kind of like McCain’s campaign).
You repubs will need to find something else to whine about. Gonna be tough. Nothing seems to stick and every thing McCain comes up with makes his numbers shrink.
republicans, meet wilderness.
There are a few here who would argue ANY court ruling on the matter, that declared Obama to be a citizen…. How sad….
And yet they claim to be Pro America!!
Report: Government Computers Used to Get Information on ‘Joe the Plumber’
Public records reveal driver’s license and SUV information on ‘Joe the Plumber’ was obtained from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database
Ohio officials are investigating whether government computer systems were illegally accessed to acquire personal information about “Joe the Plumber,” The Columbus Dispatch reports.
Public records requested by The Dispatch reveal information on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher’s driver’s license or his sport-utility vehicle was pulled from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database.
Information on Wurzelbacher was obtained on Oct. 17 through an account used by the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency in Cleveland, The Dispatch reported records as showing.
Access to such information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business.
The Dispatch reported that information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department.
It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why, The Dispatch reported.
The investigation could become “criminal in nature,” attorney general’s office spokeswoman Jennifer Brindisi told The Dispatch.
Wurzelbacher expressed frustration over the incident.
“It upsets me greatly, to be honest with you,” Wurzelbacher told FOX News’ Neil Cavuto on Saturday. “For a private citizen to ask a question of his elected leaders and then turn around and get a proctology exam, that’s just kind of wrong.”
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Duh Dems whine about invasion of privacy, then turn around and do it others.
Hypocrites
My Gorsh, American–
That was the most rediculous reach for “guilt by association” I’ve ever seen.
Saul Alinsky didn’t even believe in Lucifer. It was a literary reference to Milton’s Paradise Lost–”Better to rule in hell than rule in heaven.”
You CONs are such anti-intellectual idiots.
But CapN, they arent very literaty either… LOL
CapnAmerica,
It was:
“Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.”
You might want to get the quote correct before attacking others as being anti-intellectual.
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Chas
Posted October 25, 2008 at 7:29 pm | Permalink
But CapN, they arent very literaty either… LOL
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Yes, Chas is the most literaty of us all.
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Regular
Posted October 25, 2008 at 7:24 pm | Permalink
Duh Dems whine about invasion of privacy, then turn around and do it others.
Hypocrites
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Really? If McCain and Palin hadn’t referenced Joe the Plumber over 20 times in the days following his conversation with Obama, he’d still be a typical blue collar worker. It was the newspapers that dug up his past; Obama had nothing to do with it other than answer Joe’s question.
Talk about the quick rewriting of recent history: wear that hypocrite label yourself.
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JMWalker
Posted October 25, 2008 at 7:39 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted October 25, 2008 at 7:24 pm | Permalink
Duh Dems whine about invasion of privacy, then turn around and do it others.
Hypocrites
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Really? If McCain and Palin hadn’t referenced Joe the Plumber over 20 times in the days following his conversation with Obama, he’d still be a typical blue collar worker. It was the newspapers that dug up his past; Obama had nothing to do with it other than answer Joe’s question.
Talk about the quick rewriting of recent history: wear that hypocrite label yourself.
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Politicians often talk about average citizens, the military, and etc.
What part of illegally gaining access to a person’s records do you not understand?
Hypocrite
As usual, Nathan and Regular are more concerned with literary incidents, then their own failings. They obviously know what the writer meant, but slamming the author is way easier than seeing the truth.
Opps . . . Chris Cornell’s doing Scream . . . gotta listen!!!!!!
Obviously, I made a mistake, Nathan.
Thanks for being your usual dumbass self.
Another difference, I actually read Paradise Lost.
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Regular
Posted October 25, 2008 at 7:43 pm | Permalink
Politicians often talk about average citizens, the military, and etc.
What part of illegally gaining access to a person’s records do you not understand?
Hypocrite
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So who did it, and what charges were brought against them? You’ve already tried and crucified Obama for it, so obviously you know who did it, blog a$$bite. Give us names, dates . . .the whole enchilada. Come on, boy, names, places and charges.
“It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why, The Dispatch reported.”
Obviously, you got inside info. Call the Attorney General of Ohio. I’m sure he’d love to hear from you, so he can clear this mess up and arrest the right person.
Frikin stupid hypocrite.
The candidate I’m working for had me knocking on REPUBLICAN doors today.
Sheesh, no wonder Republicans don’t go door-to-door. You Republicans are just mean d!ckheads.
One woman screams at me through the door that she won’t open, “is this about the bond issue, because I’m voting NO?”
I try to explain what I’m doing.
“If she’s not a Republican, I’m not voting for her!”
Really. Well, what if she was a Republican? Is this how you people treat your own campaigners?
Maybe she thought I was a “community organizer.”
I’m telling my candidate, no more of this. U’s and D’s are okay, but the R’s can just go suck eggs.
Trouble is, I think most of them do . . .
CapnAmerica,
Just a little jab. Sheesh it isn’t like we have MonkeyHawk and several others on the left who routinely jump on us for far less in typing errors or grammar.
Where is your outcry to them JM Walker for obviously knowing what we meant?
Hypocrites.
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Nathaniel
Posted October 25, 2008 at 7:55 pm | Permalink
CapnAmerica,
Just a little jab. Sheesh it isn’t like we have MonkeyHawk and several others on the left who routinely jump on us for far less in typing errors or grammar.
Where is your outcry to them JM Walker for obviously knowing what we meant?
Hypocrites.
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Uh, I hate to tell you this, but my comment had nothing to do with what you meant. Appears chas is correct . . again.
CapnAmerica,
When we send our guys out they usually have a list of the homes which are Democrats so that we can avoid them for the same reasons.
Go figure.
JM Walker,
Your comment having anything to do with what my comment meant doesn’t bear on my comment to you.
You must truly be having problems when you are saying Chas is correct… again.
LOL
“I’m very happy,” says Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, and a Republican. “When I was 12, I realized the world was not organized around my desires and wishes. The problem with guys on the left is they never figured that out at age 12. And they’re just irritated the world is not organized around their vision. This makes them grumpy.”
Chris Lehane doesn’t sound grumpy. The Democratic consultant is on the phone from San Francisco: “My guess is if (Pew) checked the cross tabs out in California, we’re all pretty happy out here. The wine is still good, the food is fresh, the people are beautiful.”
Government-funded researchers identified the happiness gap in 1972. Since then, the Democrats have been comparatively more bummed out not just during the tenures of GOP presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush and Bush. They were noticeably less joyful than Republicans even during the GOP fiasco of Watergate, and during the Democratic Carter and Clinton administrations.
What’s the Republicans’ secret to feeling groovy?
“They have more money,” Paul Taylor, director of the Pew Social & Demographic Trends project, writes in the new report. “They have more friends. They are more religious. They are healthier. They are more likely to be married. They like their communities better. They like their jobs more. They are more satisfied with their family life. They like the weather better.”
http://www.kansas.com/news/nation_world/story/572877.html
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Interesting article in todays print eagle about who the really happy people are and it ain’t democrats.
I love the one about ‘they are just irritated the world is not organized around their vision. This makes them grumpy’. Pretty telling and it would appear the cons on this blog have it right.
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Nathaniel
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:01 pm | Permalink
JM Walker,
Your comment having anything to do with what my comment meant doesn’t bear on my comment to you.
You must truly be having problems when you are saying Chas is correct… again.
LOL
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I know: you’re taking Wango lessons from Franklin, aintcha?
CapnAmerica
Posted October 25, 2008 at 7:47 pm | Permalink
Obviously, I made a mistake, Nathan.
Thanks for being your usual dumbass self.
Another difference, I actually read Paradise Lost.
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A long but good read,did you do that for school or own your own. If you did it for pleasure my hat’s off to you.
“Kansas values”(sic) Regular posted October 25, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Report: Government Computers Used to Get Information on ‘Joe the Plumber[sic]’
Public records reveal driver’s license and SUV information on ‘Joe the Plumber[sic]’ was obtained from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database
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It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why, The Dispatch reported.
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It might be because Joe’s Arizona drivers license was suspended in 2000, and Ohio should NOT have issued Joe a drivers license. Joe’s AZ traffic fees = $727.90 on Oct. 17.
‘Joe the Plumber’s[sic]‘ AZ driver license suspended‘
October 17, 2008
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323
“A plumbing license is not the only license “Joe the Plumber” is having troubles with.
The former Mesa resident has a suspended driver’s license and outstanding court fines in Arizona, according to Mesa Municipal Court records.
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With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.
The only way “Joe the Plumber” could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.
Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license.“
AmWay,
Isn’t it funny how Linda is tickled pink at your reports of more voter fraud being caught?
Did you know that only 50% of all murders in this country are solved?
What percent of all voter fraud is identified prior to the election? More or less then 50%?
In other words, is their better law enforcement to find murderers or those commiting voter fraud?
(Dummies – the answer is L E S S. Far, very far less then 50% of all voter fraud it identified.)
Don’t worry.
Be happy.
Y’all can’t stop attacking the man who was able to get Obama to admit to being a S O C I A L I S T !!!!
Go ahead, tear Joe the plumber down.
You still can’t hide your Socialist candidate.
(Got your tin cups held out?)
Freebird–
It was for a class.
Buncha greedy, lazy, SOB’s on the WE Blog every day and every night.
Y’all want something for nothing.
Y’all want free stuff.
NEWS BREAK!
You are now grown up, past age 18! It’s time you figured out how to take care of yourselves for a change.
The greediest laziest b*stards I’ve ever seen are on this web site!
Bet y’all feel proud to hold out your tin cups!
Bet y’all feel proud that you can’t take care of yourselves!
might be because Joe’s Arizona drivers license was suspended in 2000, and Ohio should NOT have issued Joe a drivers license. Joe’s AZ traffic fees = $727.90 on Oct. 17.
‘Joe the Plumber’s[sic]‘ AZ driver license suspended‘
October 17, 2008
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323
“A plumbing license is not the only license “Joe the Plumber” is having troubles with.
The former Mesa resident has a suspended driver’s license and outstanding court fines in Arizona, according to Mesa Municipal Court records.
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With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.
The only way “Joe the Plumber” could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.
Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license.“
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What role does is play in the grand scheme of things. BFD,license or not he is not going to alter anything about this election,so why bring the crap up?,this goes for both sides. It seems like its a contest between the petty on both sides on who can dig up the most irrelevant piece of crap on the other. Grow the F up
Cap’n
Me too,was just curiousif you had read it for pleasure you would have been the first one I had ever run across. My class was humanities in HS als read Dante’s Inferno
JMWalker
Posted October 25, 2008 at 7:47 pm | Permalink
As usual, Nathan and Regular are more concerned with literary incidents, then their own failings. They obviously know what the writer meant, but slamming the author is way easier than seeing the truth
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No, it was misspelling that could not be ignored, especially the Crapn and Chas were bragging how much more into literary arts are than the conservatives are.
I don’t care who you are, spelling literary as “literaty” while making a claim to be more literate, is just funny.
MaxHeadroom—
Obama said it’s good to “spread the wealth around.”
When Bush gave us 600 dollars from the US Treasury to “spur the economy” not once but twice in his 8 year term, was that or was that not, spreading the wealth around?
When Bush and the Republicans bought controlling shares in the biggest investment banks in America, was that or was that not, socialism?
You are worried about what you people do.
Joe’s dentist said that Joe has failed to floss his teeth for the last 3 years in a row.
3 wrongs don’t make a right Capn.
What’s your point?
Freebird–
It was for a class.
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Cap’n, I laughed until tears were running down my cheeks!
Joe has also failed to use a coaster when having a beverage in the living room.
The end table now has a permanent water mark.
That b*stard!
Max, you really are a self-righteous POS.
I worked my way through college and I started working and saving for when I was a sophomore IN HIGH SCHOOL.
I have worked for everything I’ve ever gotten.
Big deal. Stop making a big thing out of it.
The rest of us all work for a living too.
Everybody except ReguLIAR, that is . . .
Joe doesn’t always use his turn signals when driving.
Bad Joe.
Good Capn.
Then stop putting your handout looking for Someone Else to pay for you.
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:16 pm | Permalink
“Kansas values”(sic) Regular posted October 25, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Report: Government Computers Used to Get Information on ‘Joe the Plumber[sic]’
Public records reveal driver’s license and SUV information on ‘Joe the Plumber[sic]’ was obtained from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database
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It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why, The Dispatch reported.
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It might be because Joe’s Arizona drivers license was suspended in 2000, and Ohio should NOT have issued Joe a drivers license. Joe’s AZ traffic fees = $727.90 on Oct. 17.
‘Joe the Plumber’s[sic]‘ AZ driver license suspended‘
October 17, 2008
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323
“A plumbing license is not the only license “Joe the Plumber” is having troubles with.
The former Mesa resident has a suspended driver’s license and outstanding court fines in Arizona, according to Mesa Municipal Court records.
…
With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.
The only way “Joe the Plumber” could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.
Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license.“
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You know cosmos, it’s people like you that spread people’s private information around the Web that is what wrong with the Democratic party.
I hope one day you get outed and every personal piece of information of personal nature gets posted on the WWW.
It would serve as payback and payback is a ‘bitch.’
What Capn?
You are not lookin for a handout?
Oh, so you are willing to pay for JR’s kid’s healthcare now? Are you sending JR a check monthly or is this set up to automatically deduct from your bank account?
Joe sometimes fails to put the toilet seat back down.
AND, Joe has been known to put the new roll of TP in upside down!
Bad Joe.
Max,
NEWS BREAK
I take care of myself,however I wouldn’t mind some Free stuff
Joe doesn’t always check the air in his tires.
That’s why America has to import so much oil.
Bad Joe.
I went to the Pew Trust webpage that produced that study that “Republicans are happier.”
First of all, the only difference was between the most unhappy cohort. The “pretty happy” cohort was almost the same at 52 percent for Dems and 51 percent for Repubes.
Second, the study itself showed that by far the highest correlation was not political party and happiness but 1. income and happiness and 2. health and happiness.
Since health and income are practically the same thing in our health-care-for-those-who-can-pay-for-it system, the two things are synonymous.
So what this study really shows is that richer people are more likely to 1. be Republican and 2. be happy.
No big whoop there . . .
Sure Freebird.
Take some Free Stuff from your neighbors.
Help yourself.
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Regular
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:35 pm | Permalink
No, it was misspelling that could not be ignored, especially the Crapn and Chas were bragging how much more into literary arts are than the conservatives are.
I don’t care who you are, spelling literary as “literaty” while making a claim to be more literate, is just funny.
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Call that AG of Ohio yet with that killer info?
When Joe was in school, he didn’t get straight A’s in every class.
Bad Joe.
(He also had detention once for chewing gum in class.)
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JMWalker
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:45 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:35 pm | Permalink
No, it was misspelling that could not be ignored, especially the Crapn and Chas were bragging how much more into literary arts are than the conservatives are.
I don’t care who you are, spelling literary as “literaty” while making a claim to be more literate, is just funny.
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Call that AG of Ohio yet with that killer info?
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You just love supporting criminal elements of the Democratic Party don’t you?
Yes, I am willing to pay for JR’s kid’s healthcare.
He’s a really cute kid.
You on the other hand would be perfectly happy if JR’s kid just had to curl up and die from an easily treated though expensive disease because you’re a greedy plick.
I’m not going to vote for either Obama or Mcain but no matter who is elected I’m willing to sit back and see what kind of job they do running the country before being critical. Anyone here willing to do the same?
When Joe was younger, he was out with another woman (not his wife), got drunk and drove off a bridge.
That woman drowned, and Joe did nothing to save her. Joe didn’t even call the police until the next day.
The divers found his girlfriend’s body in a position indicating she lived for a few hours breathing a pocket of air trapped in the car.
Joe’s girlfriend would likely had lived, if Joe would have called the police right away.
But Joe got away with it anyway, and now people think Joe is a hero.
Bad Joe.
Joe’s a schmoe, who cares about Joe, except mccain and his flunkies.
Hey, ReguLIAR.
I’m going to put an Obama and Betts sticker on the bumper of your car one of these days.
And because I’m such a nice guy, I won’t even charge you for them . . .
But don’t worry. They won’t be REAL bumperstickers. They’ll just be COPIES of the vault originals.
They will lack a raised seal and notary signiture.
Max,
Are your rants the result of closed head trauma?
CapnAmerica
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:47 pm | Permalink
Yes, I am willing to pay for JR’s kid’s healthcare.
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When?
Put your money where your mouth is.
Or are you lying about giving a damn?
JR,
Please let us all know when Capn’s check arrives for your son’s healtcare.
Inquiring minds want to know if Capn is a liar or not.
Max,
Joe is a non factor
No Freebird,
My rants are caused by a lack of flossing.
And like Joe, I don’t have my plumbers license either.
So I rant.
Max–
I’m perfectly willing to help pay for JR’s son’s healthcare.
Just like I’m perfectly willing to help pay for JR’s grandmother’s healthcare (Medicare).
Joe was just the guy who asked Obama the question that was never asked.
Joe was the guy who got Obama to admit to being a Socialist.
Doesn’t make Joe a hero. The message isn’t about Joe, it could have been anybody in the press if they gave a damn about addressing the issues and the candidates records.
But it wasn’t the beloved press. The press is there for one reason – to get Obama elected. Period.
CapnAmerica,
Then why don’t you pay for BlueJay’s health care and his sons too?
Or more correctly, you are willing to make others help you pay for their health care?
I’m not the one who keeps attacking Joe though.
And if you haven’t seen my “attacks on Joe” as sarcasm, then you are stupider then I thought!
Joe is friends with a guy who bombed buildings in the US.
Bad Joe.
Max,
Are your rants the result of closed head trauma?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ROFLMQAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH HEE HEE HEE HEEEEEEEEEE
Good one freebird!
lindainks55
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:37 pm | Permalink
Freebird–
It was for a class.
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Cap’n, I laughed until tears were running down my cheeks!
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Hehehe, yeah. I don’t know anybody who’d read the Old Puritan “on their own.”
Maybe Shakespeare . . . but Milton is a tough ol’ slog . . .
Nathaniel
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:56 pm | Permalink
Or more correctly, you are willing to make others help you pay for their health care?
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Yes, THAT is the answer.
Capn is lying about caring about JR’s kid. If he wasn’t lying, Capn would have paid for JR’s kid years ago.
JR would be thrilled to get the handout too!
JR’s friends though, so far, have abandoned him. They just don’t care.
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Regular
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:47 pm | Permalink
You just love supporting criminal elements of the Democratic Party don’t you?
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I want you to point to proof it was the Democrats who did this. What proof do you have, other than your mental retardation. Or are you just spouting your typical right wing nonsense because you hate America? Carve any initials on your cheek lately?
Freebird1971 posted October 25, 2008 at 8:33 pm
What role does is play in the grand scheme of things. BFD,license or not he is not going to alter anything about this election,so why bring the crap up?,this goes for both sides. It seems like its a contest between the petty on both sides on who can dig up the most irrelevant piece of crap on the other. Grow the F up
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1) I offered a possible legitimate reason for the database access, which Regular’s attacked upthread.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1025/#comment-455708
2) I’m not responsible for ‘Joe the faux plumber’ not paying his traffic fines, and having his AZ license suspended.
3) Tell ‘Joe’ to grow up. He lied about his plan to buy a business earning > $250k. And he’s not a plumber, he’s a plumber’s assistant.
“Yes, I am willing to pay for JR’s kid’s healthcare.”
HA Captain! I’ll chip in too. And I can even provide the homemade chicken noodle soup, if he likes it. Kids are funny about food, ya know.
But the homegrown chicken and homemade noodles always make me feel better. Physically, emotionally, and mentally!!!!
Maybe we should pass some of it around the blog.
Except for bigotbox, who apparently has been diagnosed as needing fiber, not comfort food.
hee hee hee hee!
Nathan–
I’d much rather help pay for somebody’s health care than to pay for another year in Iraq.
BTW, I noticed that no CONs seemed to think the government taking money from rich people’s taxes to give it to us as a “economic stimulus” is socialism.
Why didn’t you give it back, CONs?
Say Farmgoil,
Why don’t you and Chas and Capn get together to pay for JR’s kid’s healthcare?
Don’t y’all care?
Or you just want Somebody Else to pay?
Except for bigotbox, who apparently has been diagnosed as needing fiber, not comfort food.
ROTHLMSAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Should be
ROTFLMSAO
“JR’s friends though, so far, have abandoned him. They just don’t care.”
Jealous? Because when JR was absent without permission :) from the blog for a few says, many emails were exchanged trying to get contact info and get a hold of him to make sure he, his kid and his Mom were ok.
They were. We were relieved. It was just a temporary technical problem. But he was missed and we were worried.
Would anyone care if maxie disappeared from the blog? Ehhhhh, not so much!
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MaxGrobnik
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:49 pm | Permalink
When Joe was younger, he was out with another woman (not his wife), got drunk and drove off a bridge.
That woman drowned, and Joe did nothing to save her. Joe didn’t even call the police until the next day.
The divers found his girlfriend’s body in a position indicating she lived for a few hours breathing a pocket of air trapped in the car.
Joe’s girlfriend would likely had lived, if Joe would have called the police right away.
But Joe got away with it anyway, and now people think Joe is a hero.
Bad Joe.
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When Max was a kid, some say she still is, her mom used to play basketball with her; Max being the ball. Her mom always complained she didn’t bounce very well. Just kinda went splat.
That’s the Lib mantra.
That Iraq money could’ve been given to ME!
I saw some Obama fans protesting the other day. They were chanting about the war, and how that money should have been used to pay for their college tuition!!!
Greedy bastards!
They don’t care about deficits. They don’t care about Government spending as long as they get their tin cups filled.
Guess what Libs, if there wasn’t an Iraq war, that money would not have gone to you or anyone else!
Why?
There was no money. It was all borrowed. But you don’t care about borrowing money, unless it isn’t spent on yourselves.
Can you not get any more greedy slime on you? You are all drippin with it.
Why wasn’t that spreading the wealth around “spreading the wealth around”?
Freebird1971
Posted October 25, 2008 at 8:48 pm | Permalink
I’m not going to vote for either Obama or Mcain but no matter who is elected I’m willing to sit back and see what kind of job they do running the country before being critical. Anyone here willing to do the same?
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No takers. What a shock!
Freebird1971 posted October 25, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Max,
Joe is a non factor
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Not really. Many people have figured out that McCain/Palin are lying about how Obama’s tax plan would hurt ‘Joe’, and will vote for Obama.
Yeah Farmine,
I care about your healtcare too. I’ll send you an email to show you how much I give a damn.
KFG,
That is wonderful. You all miss BlueJay on the blog.
Why don’t you all pool tegether a little bit of money to buy BlueJay health care?
Actually Joe has more experience plumbing then Obama has being a senator.
But then, Obama doesn’t have a license either.
Actually Joe has more experience plumbing then Obama has being a senator.
But then, Obama doesn’t have a license either.
Looks like tomorrow’ll start off as another funfest for Palin/McCain. I wonder if those two are beginnin’ to think their lives were summed up in the movie Groundhog Day.
Speaking of the failin’ Palin, looks like she’s about to break through the toddler gate McCain had installed:
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Palin allies report rising campaign tension
Even as John McCain and Sarah Palin scramble to close the gap in the final days of the 2008 election, stirrings of a Palin insurgency are complicating the campaign’s already-tense internal dynamics.
Four Republicans close to Palin said she has decided increasingly to disregard the advice of the former Bush aides tasked to handle her, creating occasionally tense situations as she travels the country with them. Those Palin supporters, inside the campaign and out, said Palin blames her handlers for a botched rollout and a tarnished public image — even as others in McCain’s camp blame the pick of the relatively inexperienced Alaska governor, and her public performance, for McCain’s decline.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081025/pl_politico/14929;_ylt=Ag17GD9GL5UJcmj9FfD6V5ys0NUE
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RUN SARAH RUN!
Max refuses to explain why when Bush and CONs took money from the US Treasury and gave it to HIM, it wasn’t “spreading the wealth around” (i.e., how he defines socialism).
Money Nathan?
They couldn’t give JR money!
Not their own money!
(But then sent him a nice warm friendly email. Cheap friends that they are.)
Bush was a true socialist. He caused people to lose a great portion of their life savings, 401k’s etc. so that poverty and lower class would become the standard rather than the exception.
NO more middle class!
No more middle class!
CapnAmerica,
Why don’t you and some of the others who care so much about BlueJay help him buy some Health insurance?
I am sure his being healthy will keep him on the blog more in the long run than emails.
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Nathaniel
Posted October 25, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink
KFG,
That is wonderful. You all miss BlueJay on the blog.
Why don’t you all pool tegether a little bit of money to buy BlueJay health care?
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Nah, we’d rather you pay and listen to you all bitch and moan. Way more entertaining.
O ya, you misspelled together (tegether). Regular will be along shortly to condemn you for the mistake.
Oh Phantom, and how exactly did Bush cause this?
“Kansas values”(sic) Regular posted October 25, 2008 at 8:40 pm
You know cosmos, it’s people like you that spread people’s private information around the Web that is what wrong with the Democratic party.
I hope one day you get outed and every personal piece of information of personal nature gets posted on the http://WWW.
It would serve as payback and payback is a ‘bitch.’
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Yes, payback is a ‘bitch’.
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323
“Except for bigotbox, who apparently has been diagnosed as needing fiber, not comfort food.
hee hee hee hee!”
Just dropped by to see that I was still figuratively under your skin, lesie chicken farmer.
Ha ha, looks like I am…..good!
Rather ugly skin at that.
Nathan the Annoying asks, “Why don’t you all pool tegether a little bit of money to buy BlueJay health care?”
Because Nathan, we could do that. But then there’d still be another 20 or 30 million kids out there that WOULDN’T be covered by health care.
We’re working for a systemic change that will protect ALL the kids, even yours, assuming you ever grow up and move out of the house . . .
Freebird1971 posted October 25, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Max,
Joe is a non factor
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Not really. Many people have figured out that McCain/Palin are lying about how Obama’s tax plan would hurt ‘Joe’, and will vote for Obama.
Joe was an eye opener for some, he doesn’t represent the average American, just the average Republican. Doesn’t know what’s best for him.
Republican logic(sic).
36% on > $250k = McCain’s ‘Country First!
39% on > $250k = Obama’s (and Bill Clinton’s) SOCIALISM!
Capn, my answer was above.
3 wrongs don’t make a right.
Bush and the Entire Congress was wrong to give away stimulous money.
That doens’t make the $700 Billion Bailout right.
That doesn’t make Obama’s $1 Trillion annual spending increases and giveaways right.
You are asking why if 2 + 2 = 5, then why doesn’t 4 + 4 = 13.
CapnAmerica,
So, in the meantime, you could be making sure that BlueJay has health care.
It doesn’t cost that much, expecially if about 10 of you who claim to love him so much split the difference.
Max refuses to explain why when Bush and CONs took money from the US Treasury and gave it to HIM, it wasn’t “spreading the wealth around” (i.e., how he defines socialism).
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Hey, maybe that’s why RepubliCONs are “happier.”
They just ignore anything they can’t figure out . . .
Cosmos,
As usual, you distort the facts.
SSDD
(yaawwwwwnnnnnnn….)
So, because millions others are not covered you will not help out your friend here on the blog?
What sense does that make?
I bet you could find him a quote for less than 200 dollars a month.
If you and several others split that, it would be next to nothing for you to pay for that.
Why don’t you?
Nathan,
They don’t really give a damn about JR or his kid.
Or they would have given him money already.
Nathaniel,
Is Cheney going to come out of his undisclosed location, and convince Senator Reid to make lots of policy changes?
If small towns in America are the “BEST” of America, what does that make the rest of America.
The Libs would trample over a kid starving in the street, because they can’t save em all anyway.
“When Max was a kid, some say she still is, her mom used to play basketball with her; Max being the ball. Her mom always complained she didn’t bounce very well. Just kinda went splat.”
Hee hee hee heeeeeeeeee!
I also hear her social skills were so bad ther Mommy had to tie a pork chop around her neck so the family dog would play with her!
Thank you, thank you, I’ll be here all week…..Try your waitress and tip the veal.
If you can find a family plan for $200 per month, let us know. I think we actually COULD afford to get that for JR.
I dont think you can find a family plan for that amount that would be more than catastrophic. And THAT doesnt do much for preventative health care.
Wow. I’m glad to hear you sent your money back in protest.
Nathan, the Obtuse, still can’t see it. The problem is not that JR’s son has no healthcare.
The problem is the system that charges an individual far more than it charges that same individual as part of a pool, say a company’s group policy.
How is that fair? Should a car be cheaper if you are part of a group of people that all agree to buy that car?
But somehow with health care, charging people different rates both by insurance companies AND HOSPITALS is perfectly acceptable.
Fortunately, Obama is going to protect kids instead of letting them die like BushCo.
KFG,
Ther other night you were talking about a big bowl of pointo beans and cornbread,but you failed to mention onions. No onions with beans?,why my sainted granny is rolling over in her grave.
As usual, Farm It has problems with gender identification.
Say Box, did Farmie ever answer your question?
KFG,
Here you are with CapnAmerica. I bet both of you could start a rally of all those friends who missed BlueJay so much to email him and buy him some health care.
What say you? Are you in?
If I find him a good quote would you be willing to help pay for it? I will even do the work for you!
Max used to complain, “Mommy, mommy, how long do I have to keep running around in circles?”
“Shut up, Max. Otherwise, I’ll nail your other foot to the ground.”
CapnAmerica,
Why do you let your friend BlueJay go without health care? (notice I am talking about BLUEJAY not his son who is covered)
I have both you and KFG here, if I can find him a good plan will you help pay for it or not?
Bad news:
Attacked Ark. News Anchorwoman Dies
‘Daybreak’s’ Anne Pressly Never Regained Consciousness After Beating
By DEAN SCHABNER, ANDREA CANNING and LEE FERRAN
Oct. 25, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6112544&page=1
Okay, Nathan.
I’ll do it . . .
Just as soon as you and Max send back your 1200 dollars in protest of Bush socialism . . .
What’s this a revenge attack by the RW since the mccain campaign worker was attacked?
Arkansas Anchorwoman Attacked
ORIGINAL AIRDATE: 10/20/2008
Anchorwoman Ann Pressly was found by her mother, lying in bed and bleeding from severe wounds.
She’s a TV anchorwoman who played conservative commentator Ann Coulter in the movie W.
26-year-old Anne Pressly is a morning anchor for KATV in Little Rock, Arkansas.
Police say she was beaten and stabbed at her home early Monday morning, and her injuries are described as life-threatening.
Pressly bears an uncanny resemblance to Ann Coulter.
She was cast as the controversial commentator while director Oliver Stone’s movie about President George W. Bush was filming in nearby Shreveport, Louisiana.
Pressly lives alone. When she didn’t answer a wake up call from her mother at 4:30 a.m., her mom became alarmed and went to her house.
She found her daughter lying in bed and bleeding from severe wounds, one to her head.
Police say there are no suspects, but the anchorwoman may have been robbed, because her purse was missing.
It’s unclear whether the anchor was targeted because of her work on television or in the movie W.
Nathaniel,
Is Cheney going to come out of his undisclosed location, and convince Senator Reid to make lots of policy changes?
Yes nathan, I just posted that. If you can find a family plan that is decent coverage, I bet we can chip in and pay for it.
And you all can whine about JR taking handouts and being a socialist, but we wont care. Because our friend will have health insurance.
Note: health insurance doesnt ensure access to health care. It just reduced the financial pain. It doesnt eliminate it.
Guess not she was attacked before todd, I guess.
Phantom? Saddly, she died today.
Bless her heart, I hope there wasnt too much suffering. My heart goes out to her mother as well. No parent should have to bury a child.
If she played Coulter as the whacko she is, Coulter probably had her fans get revenge.
Yup, Nathan.
Looks like the ball’s in your court.
Find an affordable plan.
Good luck.
I hadn’t heard about it until tonight. Agree with your sentiment.
Right Phantom.
Blame the murder on Republicans. Or why not blame it on Bush?
It’s a sad story. Home invasions are common in America.
And Obama has VOTED in the past to deny homeowners the right to defend themselves in their own homes.
The press was reporting that the reporter was recovering. The press was wrong, again.
Phantom
Posted October 25, 2008 at 9:27 pm | Permalink
What’s this a revenge attack by the RW since the mccain campaign worker was attacked?
Arkansas Anchorwoman Attacked
ORIGINAL AIRDATE: 10/20/2008
Anchorwoman Ann Pressly was found by her mother, lying in bed and bleeding from severe wounds.
She’s a TV anchorwoman who played conservative commentator Ann Coulter in the movie W.
26-year-old Anne Pressly is a morning anchor for KATV in Little Rock, Arkansas.
Police say she was beaten and stabbed at her home early Monday morning, and her injuries are described as life-threatening.
Pressly bears an uncanny resemblance to Ann Coulter.
She was cast as the controversial commentator while director Oliver Stone’s movie about President George W. Bush was filming in nearby Shreveport, Louisiana.
Pressly lives alone. When she didn’t answer a wake up call from her mother at 4:30 a.m., her mom became alarmed and went to her house.
She found her daughter lying in bed and bleeding from severe wounds, one to her head.
Police say there are no suspects, but the anchorwoman may have been robbed, because her purse was missing.
It’s unclear whether the anchor was targeted because of her work on television or in the movie W.
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Isnt that as big a reach as the RW saying Obama went to Hawaii to make sure his grandmother kept quiet? Why can’t things just happen anymore with out reading some political intent into it
“Old news Walker. Want to post convictions and plea bargains by each organization committing voter fraud?”
Yes, and you have conveniently and continuously overlooked current examples of Republican voter fraud (voter fraud occurs at the booth either when someone who isn’t supposed to vote votes, and every bit if not more importantly when someone who is supposed to be able to vote is kept away from the booth). Republicans have targeted young college age voters with misinformation about their eligibility to vote. Republicans have claimed registration fraud falsely in claims that voters registered from empty lots when in fact they DID live in buildings on the property that was supposedly vacant. Republicans have attempted caging schemes by sending out mail to addresses in Democratic areas to challenge anyone whose mail was returned.
Meanwhile, you continuously obsfucate the difference between registration fraud and voter fraud. You claim, only by inference, that there must be lot of false registrations. Of course, to do so you are both mistrepresenting the intent of those committing the registration fraud (to defraud ACORN into paying for false registrations) and also claiming that ACORN is responsible for the fraud.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23638322/block_the_vote
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/nation/10/09/1009collegevoting.html
http://brennan.3cdn.net/6d0b05ae249db95a44_g6m6bniab.pdf
You are dishonest Amway. Your “concern” about voter fraud is an ongoing sham. And your simplistic equation in other threads Obama=ACORN=Voter fraud is bullsh*t precisely because you have failed to establish any part of the equation except with empty innuendo.
Nathan,
If the Libs don’t care enough to do the research on their own, they are not going to pay a dime for JR.
Don’t waste your time.
See if the Libs can do one thing for themselves, for a change.
Capn is lying about caring about JR’s kid. If he wasn’t lying, Capn would have paid for JR’s kid years ago.
Max,
Of course you are right about that. What is so obvious and hypocritical about them is the DimLib’s attitude on this blog of talking about ‘caring’ so much about everything, but never lifting a finger to actually help.
They are like alligators in that they are all mouth but never do anything except for themselves.
What’s funny though…..they know it! That’s why they are so obnoxious and disgusting to be around.
And of course the chicken farmer hasn’t answered my question, she won’t either, she’s all mouth just like above….she knows no matter how she answers it reveals the truth about her.
She either turn lesbian by choice, before or after her husband dumped her, or she married a man in total deceit.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 25, 2008 at 9:31 pm | Permalink
Phantom? Saddly, she died today.
Bless her heart, I hope there wasnt too much suffering. My heart goes out to her mother as well. No parent should have to bury a child.
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Amen! I watched my ex inlaws bury 2 of their 4 kids,I would not wish that kind of suffering on anyone.
Freebird, I thought it went without saying that copious quantities of both onions and garlic and some serrano peppers went into the pot of beans.
And onions and chopped peppers and cilantro went on top, just like I do with chili.
I loves me some collard or mustard greens, a pot of pinto beans with hamhocks, thick sliced and fried bacon or fatback, and cooked white rice on the side. With tobasco on the table at the ready, and those little peppers and vinegar in a shaker jar on the table too. Cornbread, butter, and honey.
IF I post a recipe next week do you want A)New Mexico Pork Green Chile 2) Authentic Carne guisada or 3)shrimp gumbo?
We could have our own early voting election!!!!!!!
Yummmmm YUM! Or as Rachel Ray would say “Yummo!”
Box,
Be afraid,be very afraid!!!! When the gays take over they will be coming after you first thing. I hear they even have a machine that turns straight people gay,so you might want to pick out a party dress.
“Because Nathan, we could do that. But then there’d still be another 20 or 30 million kids out there that WOULDN’T be covered by health care.”
That is correct Capn.
And then when you try and take care of those there are millions and millions more, and then their parents, and then relatives, then everybody. And when those doing the providing can’t keep up…they QUIT, and everything falls down.
Just like it did in Hawaii with their stupid program that FAILED MISERABLY, and they just through it out!!!
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/09/03/voting
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/22/voter_supression_guide/
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/opinion/20081002_GETTING_OUT_THE_VOTER_SUPPRESSION.html
“she knows no matter how she answers it reveals the truth about her.”
I’ve answered your “have you stopped beating your wife” question multiple times. You just dont like the answer, so you ignore it and repost your question endlessly.
Search for my answer. You’ll find it if you are smarter than a fifth grader.
BIG EYE ROLL.
Then maybe you could stand the floor up?
#3 love gumbo.
I’m from the south originally and your talk about piinto beans and hamhocks makes me home sick and nostalgic for my granny’s cooking which she did on a wood stove.
Freebird!
“you might want to pick out a party dress.”
EWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!
Thanks for THAT image in my head now.
EEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!
Agree Box, she is all mouth.
Boxlock, after your pathetic performance on this blog this week with your nasty attacks, and continued pathetic credulity (see the supposed attack on the McCain supporter), it is simply a testament to your total lack of shame or character that you continue with your personal attacks on “dimlibs” and ksfarmgrrl.
You damage your “side” every time you post.
As for Max, as always…
DNFTST
GUMBO!
Shrimp is dirt cheap here!
Holy moly, I’m pumped now.
FROM TOMORROW’S NEWS:
Beware of ObamaCare
Sunday, October 26, 2008
It is understandable that Mr. Obama’s plan might seem reasonable when compared to those of his rejected Democratic competitors, who declared they would further empower government, micromanage health insurance, marginalize the independence of patients and doctors and then force it on a naive American public that mistakenly seems to believe that if government pays it is free and that government-run health care is higher quality.
Beware the superficial illusion of moderation – Mr. Obama’s plan is filled with fantasies about costs, new government mandates and bureaucracies, and in the end, taxes and faith in big government that necessarily will be far greater and broader than his campaign admits, or perhaps worse yet, fails to understand.
First, let’s be very clear: Mr. Obama’s plan would instill new government mandates and expand costly government entitlement programs already stressed far beyond their sustainability. He creates a mandate that all families buy health insurance coverage for their children. He expands Medicaid and SCHIP eligibility, programs already overreaching by either covering families who can already afford insurance but choose not to, or by insuring adults (even childless ones) via a program designed strictly for children. He establishes a new government-run National Health Exchange, a Big Brother bureaucracy that will oversee the private insurance industry and “will act as a watchdog and help reform the private insurance market by creating rules and standards for participating insurance plans.”
He calls for a new public insurance entitlement program for those without employer-provided care, once again repeating the mistake of positioning the government as the all-knowing insurer rather than as the provider of money to empower individuals and families so they themselves can purchase insurance they value.
Government mandates are in fact one of the root causes of high health insurance costs – the approximately 2,000 different state mandated benefits currently increase the cost of basic health coverage by little less than 20 percent to more than 50 percent, depending on the state.
Moreover, government-controlled health insurance has proven unable to rein in costs. Most other countries, including even the mother of all welfare states, Sweden, recognize this and are turning toward instilling competition and privatization to bring down costs.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/26/beware-of-obamacare/
I can make sweet potato pie too Freebird. And black eyed peas, Crowder peas, cream peas… yumyumyumyumyumyum
And if you dont tell anyone about this, I can make neck bones and oxtail stew as well. Shhhhhhhh.
And chicken and dumplings and chicken and dressing, and mac and cheese to die for. Smothered pork chops with rice. Creamed greenbeanss and new potatoes.
“If you’ll be my Dixie Chicken, I’ll be your Tennessee Lamb, and we can walk together down in dixie land. Dooooown in Dixie, badubadubadubadubadu”
Those meals ought to drive up the cost of all our healthcare…
Second, Mr. Obama’s plans are funded by fantasies and new taxes. The financing of his plan depends heavily on purely hypothetical cost savings, most of which are already discredited by the Congressional Budget Office (see May 2008, “Evidence on the Costs and Benefits of Health Information Technology”), including his naive estimates from “investments in IT to reduce administrative costs, better disease management, reduced insurance overhead, reinsurance, and reduced uncompensated care” and claims that “businesses will save $140 billion annually in insurance premiums… and the typical family will save $2,500 per year.”
He goes on to paint the illusion of pain-free government expansion and his new public insurance system by invoking key tenets of unabashed class warfare, anti-business liberalism with his new personal income taxes “on the rich” and new payroll taxes, both of which ultimately reduce workers’ wages and inhibit much needed economic growth.
Scott W. Atlas is senior fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution and professor at the Stanford School of Medicine.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/26/beware-of-obamacare/
Scott Mcclellan just endorsed barrack obama!
What’s the country coming to?
“Between Palin’s internal detractors and her allies, there’s a middle ground: Some aides say that she’s a flawed candidate whose handling exaggerated her weak spots.
“She was completely mishandled in the beginning. No one took the time to look at what her personal strengths and weaknesses are and developed a plan that made sense based on who she is as a candidate,” the aide said. “Any concerns she or those close to her have about that are totally valid.”
But the aide said that Palin’s inexperience led her to her own mistakes:
“How she was handled allowed her weaknesses to hang out in full display.”
(from the Politico link above)
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Duh.
I swear, watching the Palin/McCain ticket is like watching a circular firing squad.
Thank you Agnatha. I really dont mind being their own personal pinata. It keeps them busy and off the backs of my friends, and they look so freakin’ STOOOOOPID doing it.
Let ‘em wail away. I have broad shoulders.
And now back to the Marta Stewart show.
Marta will show you her favorite dish.
And we’re supposed to believe that either one of ‘em would make a good President?
As if.
Unless it’s president of Venezuela. They might shine at THAT.
So… gumbo is the consensus?
Ok, I’ll work on it and post it tomorrow in case anyone wants to spend the day cooking.
Ummmmmm… Martha…. Ummmmmmm…..
Fo sho that gumbo!
Well Coulter did promote attacks on the NYT, why wouldn’t she promote an attack on something personal. Wonder if she’s ever talked about the movie W.
Pedant, just for you, I have a great shrimp scampi recipe and one for frogmore stew. Do you know what that is? heheheheh
Agnatha,
As I’ve expressed before, but maybe not so you could understand knowing your capabilities or lack there of, I don’t value your opinion more than a pound of smelly shi1.
Bringing a story running on the local and national news about a vicious attack, one quite believable considering the nature of a lot of DimLibs Obama supporters, is nothing to be ashamed of…so…you’re right…I’m not.
No I do not.
…and I feel like I just walked into a punchline.
Ok, let’s have it.
Well then, guess I better get to bed. With dreams of et tu fae dancing in my head!
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 25, 2008 at 9:48 pm | Permalink
Those meals ought to drive up the cost of all our healthcare…
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You are right eating like that and drinking homemade wine killed my grandfather,it took damn near 90 years but it finally got him.
Chicken farmer,
I will answer you, even though your question of ‘when did I stop beating my wife’ is another asinine one because…I don’t beat my wife.
She is a real lady, something you have absolutely no concept of, for sure.
Now, when did you become lesbian?
But I see in the internets that Frogmore Stew has Old Bay seasoning in it (one recipe, anyway).
Me likee Old Bay. I can go to my local grocery store here and pick up 2 lbs of fresh shrimp steamed and topped with Old Bay for $7 (21-26 count/lb).
Guess it’s time to break out the ‘ol crockpot.
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have_Obama_removed_from_ballot.html
You know how ReguLIAR and the CONs have glommed on to the “Barack was not born in the US” meme.
Here’s what the judge had to say about that charge:
[The Judge] Surrick ruled that Berg’s attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were “frivolous and not worthy of discussion.”
He agreed with the defense that Berg’s claims were “ridiculous” and “patently false.”
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Wow. CON lies were found to be ridiculous and patently false in a court of law.
Never could have seen that one coming.
Re Boxlock
“methinks he doth protest too much”in regards to KFG.I think he is sweet on her
Heheheeh. Frogmore stew is much like a low country boil, or in loooosiana they’d just call it a “shramp berl”
Put a BIG pot of water on to boil, preferably outside on the turkey fryer burner. When the water is boiling, put in a lot of new red or gold potatoes, lots of Tony Chacherre’s seasoning and Zataran’s Shrimp boil, one or two bags depending on the size of the pot. Add a dozen big onions, quartered, 6-7 HEADS of garlic whole and let’em boil, er, berl, with the taters. Let the taters cook about ten minutes and then add big pieces of andoulle sausage, or any hot smoked sausage, and some tasso ham if you have it. Let boil another twenty minutes then add freshly shucked ears of corn. Contintue to boil for another fifteen minutes or so.
Then add the shrimp, squeeze the juice of about 8 whole lemons cut in half, and throw the squeezed lemons into the pot. Just bring back to a boil and then quickly turn off the heat and cover with lid. Let it set (or soak as they say) for at least thrity minutes.
Drain but reserve the broth, and pour out the food contents on a picnic table covered with newspaper. Serve with horseradish, red sauce, tobasco, a baguette or twenty and lots of real butter, all on the side.
Scoop a little of everything into a big bowl with some broth, and you have frogmore stew. Eat the contents on a plate with your fingers and the bread as a pusher, and you have a low country boil.
Dance the chanky chank and pass the beer and wine while eating and you have a cajun coon ass feast fit for marryin’s and buryin’s!
Yeah, bigotbox hates lesbians because they take me away from him.
As if…
He is indeed secretly hot for me as evidenced by his obsession.
Freebird1971,
No, she’s a bi+ch, and I’m am learning…so are you.
Then I’m in much better company than being with you.Maybe if you opened your mind instead of your mouth you would see people as basically good no what their political or sexual prefrences are.
ooh, ooh, ooh!
New Mexico Pork Green Chile!
I’d love to have your recipe!
Now, I hate to brag, but I’ve won several Chile cook offs. I have a pretty good recipe. Grind my own meat from brisket, three types of chilis, and a secret ingredient that I’ll tell anyone that wants to know.
Box,
You really think she had a choice?
Now back to Marta Stewart, who will show us how she makes a Poon Tang Pie.
Oh, it’s out of this world! (Hope you like fish.)
(Marta learned this secret recipie from a very good friend she met in Prison. Her name was Bob.)
bigotbox, I’ll answer this one more time and that’s it.
I was BORN a lesbian, but I CHOSE not to believe it. I thought I could chose to be straight, and so, I made that “choice” and lived that way until I was thirty. Way after I was divorced.
When I hit thirty, I realized I could not chose to be straight. It wasnt possible. I am what I am, to paraphrase Popeye. So… I quit acting straight and chose to acknowledge my true identity and also decided to embrace it. At that point, I chose to accept the way I was born and go with the only real choice I had.
SO I was born a lesbian and later in my life, I also chose it.
I know that is way too complicated for your pea brain, so let the insults begin.
And it all had nothing to do with the good years of our marriage, or the bad years. I never acted on it until AFTER we were divorced. And I told you why we divorced. Let’s see if you remember it.
Or is that cheesecloth memory of yours selective? You only remember what you want? Because I’ve posted this SAME answer to your dumbass “have you stopped beating your wife” questions at least four times.
This makes five. From now on, try to remember this answer, even if your bigoted pea brain cant process it or you dont agree with it.
nitwit AND ankle biter!
MaxGrobnik
Posted October 25, 2008 at 10:17 pm | Permalink
Box,
You really think she had a choice?
Now back to Marta Stewart, who will show us how she makes a Poon Tang Pie.
Oh, it’s out of this world! (Hope you like fish.)
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That pie is probably just a faded memory for you isnt it Max?
Hank, is that a bowl o’ red chili made with brisket?
‘Cause New Mexico Green is usually made with pork.
I’ll put it up after the gumbo!!!
…and please, please, PRETTY please tell me your secret ingredient!
Box,
A real simple question. If you can be proud of being straight what does it matter to you if KFG is proud of being gay? How does it possibly effect you?
Freebird, he only feels good about himself when he’s standing on someone else’s neck. Or on their shoulders.
He cant lift himself up without putting someone else down.
And he thinks he’s jesus’ general!
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/
Jesus’ General Blogspot
Box,
I have never met KFG and politically were are about 100 light years apart but I would rather meet someone like her who sees things as they are rather than you who only sees things as the way you think they should be. Loosen up and enjoy life.
Even when I am not here I am?
I love it!
I’ll be back for more after SNL’s opening sketch.
Word up “Max” and Nathan?
I don’t like being talked about behind my back. I do not do it to others and I require the same of them.
When I get back?
My turn.
Notice how both he and maxine disappear EVERY time I answer their damn question?
That’s so they can ask it over and over and over again saying they never saw the answer, which stretches into their lie that I never answer their stupid question.
From now on, back me up that I did indeed answer it.
AGAIN!
tamales…
gots to find me a cow head to boil…
cow’s tongue is pretty tasty as well
Hey, “ksfarmgrrl” –
I did the chili today. Browned the lean beef in onions, garlic, oregano (crushed), chili powder, cumin. Added a couple of cans of Bush’s hot chili beans, a can of stewed tomatoes, a 12 oz. can of V-8 juice (I loves my V-8 juice), some seeded and chopped jalapeno peppers and half a bottle of Sam Adams Octoberfest beer. The other half… well, cookin’ chili is a thirsty enterprise.
Cornbread sticks on the side and nectar of the gods (a Beck’s Oktoberfest beer) beside the bowl. And I made a huge vat of it to go into the freezer and be around later. I didn’t do the masa slurry; couldn’t find anything but a five-pound bag of it and what am I gonna do with five pounds of masa? It’s not like I’m gonna make my own tamales. Now that’s work.
I shredded some New York extra-sharp cheddar on top and my guests seemed to enjoy it (unless they were just being polite.) My friend brought a cherry pie. The woman has a think with crust; says it has to be done with Crisco and Gold Medal flour. No off-brands for her. What she comes up with the the damnedest multi-layer flaky crust you think is mythical until you taste it.
Fun evening.
MH,
To me chili that has been frozen and recooked seems to taste better.
What no Tina?
That’s ok, I’ve catching up to do.
Let me let YOU cons in on something.
I’m not like you.
I’ve ALWAYS been for guaranteed health care for all. THAT comes from someone who had insurance from the time I was born until just a few years ago. Even during my foolish, youthful embrace of the Republican party?
It was my take that a nation’s health depended on the health of ALL of its citizens.
Unlike you cons, I don’t personalize my idealism just for me. I also don’t engage in personal attack unless attacked first.
Nathan and “Max” I am looking in your direction.
Now, if I’m going to cook a dish to satisfy the soul, I cook a dish called Cochinita Pibil, slow cooked, marinated pork:
NE DAY AHEAD:
* 3 1/2 pounds (to 4-1/2) pork, preferably end of loin, untrimmed
* 2 teaspoons salt
* 2 tablespoons Seville orange juice (see note)
* 1 tablespoon achiote seeds (heaping)
* 1/4 teaspoon cumin seeds
* 1/4 teaspoon oregano
* 12 peppercorns
* 3 whole allspice
* 4 cloves garlic, peeled
* 1/8 teaspoon powdered chile seco (may substitute hot paprika)
* 1 teaspoon Ssalt
* 3 tablespoons Seville orange juice or Mild white vinegar
* 2 large pieces banana leaf
Serving day
* A Dutch oven
* the wrapped meat
* 1/2 cup cold water
Salsa
* 1/2 cup onion — very finely chopped
* 3 chiles habaneros — Toasted, peeled and
very finely chopped. Or your favorite chile.
Must be toasted and peeled; really brings out
the flavor of the chili. Try toasting and
peeling Jalapenos for your next favorite salsa.
The difference between untoasted and toasted is
unbelievable.
* 1/2 teaspoon Salt
* 2/3 cup Seville orange juice
Pierce the pork all over and rub in the 2 teaspoons salt and 2 tablespoons orange juice. Set aside while you prepare the seasoning paste.
Grind the achiote seeds (Achiote seeds pretty much need a coffee grinder; they are extremely hard.), cumin, oregano, peppercorns and allspice together to a fine powder.
Crush the garlic together with the chile seco, salt and 3 tablespoons Seville orange juice and mix with other powdered spices. The mixture should be a thick paste. Coat the pork with the paste.
Lightly sear the banana leaves over a bare flame to make them more flexible. Wrap the meat up in them and leave to season in the refrigerator for at least six hours or overnight.
ON SERVING DAY: Preheat oven to 325°. Place a rack at the bottom of the Dutch oven and cover the dish with a tight fitting lid. Cook for 2 1/2 hours. Turn the meat and baste it well with the juices at the bottom of the pot. Cook for another 2 1/2 hours, or until the meat is soft and falling off the bone.
Meanwhile, prepare the salsa: mix all ingredients together. Set aside to season for about 2 hours. Serve in a separate dish.
After cooking, shred the meat roughly. Pour the fat and juices from the pan over it. Serve hot, with tortillas and the sauce so that each person can make his or her own tacos.
NOTE: A rough approximation of Seville orange juice may be attained through the following: For 1/2 cup blended juice, combine 1 teaspoon finely grated grapefruit rind, 3 tablespoons orange juice, 3 tablespoons grapefruit juice and 2 tablespoons lemon juice.
I like to roll the meat up in lightly toasted flour tortillas, with fresh greens, chopped onions, tomatoes and grated jack cheese, maybe sprinkle some Parmesan on it.
Takes a long time, but it’s kick a$$ with a Dos Equis XX.
ksfarmgrrl,
“so let the insults begin.”
No more insults ksfarmgrrl, no more. At least I will try.
In spite of your ‘minor insults’ at the end, which I will ignore as they don’t bother me, that is the first time I think you have ever responded in what I perceive as sincere honesty, at least civilly toward me. Thank you.
And, just in case we have gotten so far apart in our ability to communicate you don’t understand my position. I want you to know I don’t condemn anyone, that means you, for being gay. I do think homosexual behavior is wrong, and I do think it destructive to healthy families, as well as health in general in many cases. I think people have many temptations, persuasions or whatever that they don’t need to, and should not, act on. And, I will fight against you if you try and force it on society as a normal healthy choice. I sincerely believe it is not.
But no, I don’t condemn you for being you. Whether you like to hear this or not, God made you, He loves you and He wants the best for you. You have to work that out with him….I have no standing except to point out His word.
Enough said, I will say no more.
Have a good night.
Forget about mccain/palin friction. Joe the Plumber says he will not be the fall guy if mccain loses, seeks to distance himself from campaign, worried about his own political future!
“Boxlock” shares –
“I do think homosexual behavior is wrong, and I do think it destructive to healthy families…”
How possibly could what two consenting adults choose to do in bed “destroy” your “healthy” family?
I heard today that “Joe the Plumber” may want to be “Joe the Congressman”?
So, let me get this right.
An already committed McCain voter approaches and confronts the Senator Barack Obama, Democratic nominee for President.
He then alternately embraces and tries to escape his new won fame.
NOW he is going to USE it?
Joe the poser.
parsley
“I do think homosexual behavior is wrong, and I do think it destructive to healthy families…”
“How possibly could what two consenting adults choose to do in bed “destroy” your “healthy” family?
I should have used the term ‘conducive to health families’. Their own families Monkey, their own families.
I’m not addressing it further tonight.
Above post was feeble attempt at satire. Joe has no one Except for Repubs. he’ll remain steadfast with mccain.
I did hear that Joe was thinking politics with his new found fame.
And, I expect Sarah will turn on mccain after the election like a pit bull wearing lipstick.
Well, I guess I am addressing it further tonight as once the ‘Post Comment’ is clicked it can’t be stopped and I wasn’t finished.
Monkey,
Their families is what I was talking about, but since you ask you question let me say that their families are apart of the fabric of society as a whole and what they do, what we all do, effects others.
And yes it think it confusing and harmful for children to be exposed to it, as was the case in California recently where 5 year old kids were taken to a gay marriage as a public school ‘learning project”. And without notifying the kids parents at that.
Sick!!!
“And, I expect Sarah will turn on mccain after the election like a pit bull wearing lipstick.”
I’M expecting she AND the party will turn on McCain BEFORE the election unless it looks like anything other than the landslide that is shaping up.
It’s hilarious in a way. Palin is WHY McCain is losing. Well, part of it anyway. The con response? Protect Palin!
Palin is becoming unglued…
Story to follow….
I’m outta here.
More bullsh*t puncturing analyses from Fact Check.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/body_armor_claim_still_false_and_nasty.html
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/right_change_is_wrong.html
“B” Hoax Photographer Speaks: “I Only Gave Copies of the Photos to Police…and College Republicans”‘
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/astral66/2008/10/smoking-gun-b-hoax-photographe.php
“… Here’s the quote from today’s Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (emphasis mine):
Mr. (Dan) Garcia took the widely published picture of Ms. Todd with her injuries. He said he took several photographs with a digital camera to document what had happened. He said he only gave copies of the photos to police and Ms. Todd’s employer, the College Republicans. One photo appeared on The Drudge Report on Thursday, setting off a storm of media attention.
Here, then, is the direct link between the College Republicans working for the McCain campaign and the story that the McCain campaign was pushing through it’s regional communications director, Peter Feldman, to the Pittsburgh media outlets.”
Does anybody find it interesting that “MAX” and Boxbigot normlaly seem to disappear around the same time every night?? Hmmmm???
I been thinking maybe they have a meet up somewhere…. or something….
Yes,
As the jawless fish pointed out factcheck.org has a nose for accurate news.
Here’s a video about Obama’s lies from factcheck.org.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgEHcDj2oPo
FactCheck.org debunks numerous rumors about Sarah Palin’s record
-As governor, Palin did not cut funding for special needAlaska Governor and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin shown not censoring any bookss education. In fact, she tripled that funding in just 36 months.
-As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin did not seek to ban any books from the library, nor did she fire the librarian for disobeying the order she didn’t give. The purported lengthy list of published works Palin sought to ban is phony and includes books published after the alleged censorship attempt.
-Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982 and was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, which seeks a vote on seceding from the United States.
-Palin never endorsed nor supported Pat Buchanan politically. As the mayor greeting him on a Wasilla visit once, she briefly wore a Buchanan button as a hospitality “courtesy.
-FactCheck also reported: “Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska’s schools. She has said that students should be allowed to ‘debate both sides’ of the evolution question, but she also said creationism ‘doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.’”
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html
-As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin did not seek to ban any books from the library, nor did she fire the librarian for disobeying the order she didn’t give. The purported lengthy list of published works Palin sought to ban is phony and includes books published after the alleged censorship attempt.
-Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982 and was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, which seeks a vote on seceding from the United States.
_________________________________________
Obviously that “list” of banned books that was erroneously attributed to Palin is wrong, since, in fact, some of the books on the “list” were not yet published when the Library Incident occurred….
Nobody that I have read has ever claimed that Palin WAS a part of the Alaska Independence Party….
However, she DID address the group, AND her husband was a member of that party until just a few years ago…
The head of that Alaska secession party is on the record as stating, about the Stars and Stripes, that he would not be buried under that “damned flag.”
Hmmm… sounds like she had some contact with a blatantly ANTI-AMERICAN group, and is married to a one-time member of that Anti-American Party….
Guess if you use the logic of some, Palin must also be an Anti-American….
Karma is a bitch!! LOL
Oh yea, Youtube.com, is NOT the same entity as factcheck.org…. Just FYI… Of course, it could just be a typo error, so we wont holler too loud about it….
Then again, maybe not!!
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!
and a blessed REFORMATION SUNDAY to all!!
so mote it be!!
Obama Campaign Cuts Off Interviews With Florida TV Station
Biden gets asked tough questions by Orlando reporter
Barack Obama’s campaign killed all interviews with a Florida TV station after Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, faced tough and critical questions from a reporter at the Orlando station, the Orlando Sentinel reported .
During a satellite video Thursday, WFTV’s Barbara West quoted Karl Marx and asked Biden how Obama’s comment to “Joe the Plumber,” about spreading the wealth wasn’t being Marxist.
“Are you joking?,” Biden asked.
West replied, “No.”
Click here to watch the interview.
Later in the interview West questioned Biden about his comments that if Obama wins the election next month, he would be tested early on as president and wanted to know if Biden was implying America was no longer the world’s leading power.
“I don’t know who’s writing your questions,” Biden asked her.
The Obama camp then killed a WFTV interview with Biden’s wife Jill, according to an Orlando Sentinel blog.
“This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election,” wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign, according to the Sentinel.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/
Midtown Bike Path Roll Out
Date: October 24, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
Meeting to Present Project Monday, Oct. 27
Bicycle riders will have a new pathway next spring that connects the Midtown area and the north edge of the downtown core area. The City of Wichita has hired Cornejo & Sons Construction, Inc., to build the path. Details and the construction schedule will be presented at 5:30 p.m. Monday, Oct. 27, at the Midtown Resource Center, 10th and Broadway.
The Midtown bike path will run more than one mile, from the intersection of Central and Wichita Streets, north along Wichita Street to 9th Street, and then northeast in the former Union Pacific Railroad Corridor to 15th near Broadway. The $1.35 million project will provide a 10-foot wide bicycle path with decorative entrance arches at both 8th and 15th Streets, and a plaza with clock tower and drinking fountain in Otis Park at 13th and Market. More than 300 trees and shrubs will be planted along the path. Minor storm sewer work will also occur at various points along the path.
“This will be a very nice amenity, not only for Midtown residents, but also for people who work in the core area and visitors,” says Julianne Kallman, project engineer in charge of the design. “It will be a great complement to the river corridor improvements and downtown residential development, too.”
The proposed schedule for the Bike Path construction is:
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October 30, 2008: Construction begins at Central and Wichita, progressing northeast to 15th and Broadway.
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Mid-November 2008: Decorative entrance arch construction begins at 8th and 15th Streets.
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Late-November 2008: Otis Park Plaza construction begins at 13th and Market Streets.
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April 2009: The project is anticipated to be completed.
Traffic Changes at Central & Tyler
Date: October 24, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
Restrictions Loosened for 2 to 3 Weeks
Beginning Friday, Oct. 24, traffic on Central will be allowed to make left turns onto Tyler. Previously, left hand turns were prohibited while AT&T was completing relocation of utility lines.
The change will last for two to three weeks, when restrictions will be reinstated for storm water sewer construction. Tyler is still restricted to one lane in each direction, but southbound Tyler Road traffic can make left turns at Central until storm water sewer construction begins.
Reconstruction of the intersection of Central and Tyler began in mid-August with the relocation work by AT&T in the intersection. The $2.5 million project will provide dual left turn lanes in all four directions, improved drainage, and new traffic signals. The projected completion date is August, 2009.
“I been thinking maybe they have a meet up somewhere…. or something….”
Bigotbox’s wife says that is true. She’s glad. It gives us more time together…
Bigotbox is still a bigot, even if he tries to dress his words up with jesus.
nitwit
Heh Monkeyhawk, glad your chili turned out so well. I forgot to say you can make the slurry with regular cornmeal if you dont have masa.
WALKER!!!!!!
That sounds so DAMN good.
And Reg, if I was gonna get a cow’s head, I’d remove the cheek meat for some kick ass barbacoa. Ummmm. With chopped oninos and cilantro for breakfast.
Now THAT’s Mexican!!!!
Hell, you can buy cheek meat over the counter in Ausin, sans head!
Sol really should not be missing this!
“Does anybody find it interesting that “MAX” and Boxbigot normlaly [sic] seem to disappear around the same time every night?? Hmmmm??? I been thinking maybe they have a meet up somewhere…. or something….”—-Chas the faux preacher.
That’s because that’s the way your filthy mind works Chas….the faux preacher. Would a real man, which you aren’t, that puts himself out as a man of God’s word, which you do falsely, think and say and do the things you do. Of course NOT.
Look at the time of your posts a$$hole…normal folks, meaning not mentally ill, are asleep because they can sleep as a result of a clear conscience.
Obviously not so with you.
And ksfarmgrrl, I guess you will always be just be a failed lesie chicken farmer, nothing more.
“And ksfarmgrrl, I guess you will always be just be a failed lesie chicken farmer, nothing more.”
I might add a foul-mouthed one, got a mouth full of that chicken guano probably.
I had hoped we could be civil, if not agree, on the normalcy of your homosexuality and the negative consequences for individuals as well as society, but I guess not. Small loss!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
you = still slaving away at the daily grind
me = enjoying a carefree life on the farm.
Uh, which one of us is “failed”?
I’d like to know who farms lesie chickens. I didnt know there was such a thing. Please forward information immediately
“I had hoped we could be civil, if not agree, on the normalcy of your homosexuality and the negative consequences for individuals as well as society, but I guess not.”
WTF made you think I’d ever agree to THAT piece of wingnuttia.
Say hello to the Mrs, will ya?
She’s tired of all your little imaginary friends like maxie and chrissy and the whole hee haw gang.
Nevermind. I’ll tell her myself. Later.
Here ya go bigotbox.
A little piece of financial advise from me. You too could enjoy a great life if you follow these steps.
http://finance.yahoo.com/retirement/article/106000/10-Steps-to-Retire-a-Millionaire
It must be hell spending your days wondering just how many ways CAN I say “would you like fries with that?”
Wow, so little effort for so much hilarious effect on the lesie chicken farmer.
A little poke and she goes nuts, lets see now, how many posts devoted to just me, ha. And not just this thread but a couple at the same time, hilarious, really hilarious.
No wonder she’s sitting where she is, with chickens and a ???wife.
You’re just one big joke, Box…your momma would be so proud.
No point Box…
kfg is a fine person in her own right. She reminds me of some of the Texas gals I knew; rougher than a freshly cut pine log; saltier than a brine pickle and more stubborn than an unfed mule in a wheat pasture.
She’s opinionated and makes some generalized attacks on just about everyone she disagrees with.
I can almost see her small fist in a clinch, thumb up, swiping her nose – sniffing to see who’s gonna throw the first punch.
I’d just let her be if I was you. You aren’t going to changer her.
She’s not the enemy, just different from what we expect.
Of course, that’s what makes life interesting.
I’d still treat her like a lady even though it would probably irritate the hell out of her.
But ‘that is me and that’s all…
New campaign video on Obama’s deception.
http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com/video_ss4illegals_he.html