Creationists are so backward they want to revive dualism. Next stop for creationists, phrenology, and blood letting.
Creationists declare war over the brain
“YOU cannot overestimate,” thundered psychiatrist Jeffrey Schwartz, “how threatened the scientific establishment is by the fact that it now looks like the materialist paradigm is genuinely breaking down. You’re gonna hear a lot in the next calendar year about… how Darwin’s explanation of how human intelligence arose is the only scientific way of doing it… I’m asking us as a world community to go out there and tell the scientific establishment, enough is enough! Materialism needs to start fading away and non-materialist causation needs to be understood as part of natural reality.”
His enthusiasm was met with much applause from the audience gathered at the UN’s east Manhattan conference hall on 11 September for an international symposium called Beyond the Mind-Body Problem: New Paradigms in the Science of Consciousness. Earlier Mario Beauregard, a researcher in neuroscience at the University of Montreal, Canada, and co-author of The Spiritual Brain: A neuroscientist’s case for the existence of the soul, told the audience that the “battle” between “maverick” scientists like himself and those who “believe the mind is what the brain does” is a “cultural war”.
Advocates of illegal abortion are the real
“domestic terrorists.”
At its worst, the Weather Underground always announced its bombing targets.
Terrorists working on behalf of illegal abortion didn’t warn Dr. Barnett Slepian and Robert Sanderson (killed in 1998) or Dr. Jack Fainman and another unnamed physician (wounded in 1997) or Dr. Hugh Short (wounded in 1995) or Dr. John Bayard Britton, James H. Barrett, Shannon Lowney and Leanne Nichols (killed in 1994) or Dr. Garson Romalis and five others (wounded in 1994) or Dr. David Gunn (killed in 1993) or Dr. George Tiller (wounded in 1993).
Nor did they give warnings in most of the more than 200 clinic bombings and arsons since 1993, the most recent an unsolved case in Albuquerque, N.M., in December 2007.
All in the cause of “pro-life” reviving the back-alley butcher industry.
McCain’s brother is involved in political issues so when traffic is a problem he calls up 911 to have it fixed. When the operator asks if he is serious he responds in a family values manner.
And in Ohio Republicans are upset that the Democratic Secretary of State won’t steal the election like the former Republican Secretary did. So they respond like they know how, with death threats.
Obama doesnt want you to be able to protect your family
This ad refers to a 2003 incident when a Wilmette, Illinois restaurateur named Hale DeMar shot and wounded a burglar who broke into his house. DeMar was prosecuted by the town of Wilmette, which had, at the time, a ban on the possession of handguns. To prevent a reoccurance, Illinois lawmakers introduced legislation to offer legal protections to individuals who use firearms in self defense. The bill passed the Illinois state House by a vote of 86-25, and the Illinois state Senate by a vote of 39-20. Illinois state Senator Barack Obama voted against the bill.
I’ve read many books about Mazda(ism), Zoroastrian(ism), The Bogomils and Cathars. I kind of agree with some of the dualists ideas. I’ve always been spiritual but never religious. I don’t “get” atheism and what follows, nihilism. I think we’re all connected to the same energy, one consciousness, if you will. So while I agree with evolution, I also subscribe to the battle of evil and good. I just feel that the evil is considered good in today’s society and humans have stopped evolving and are actually regressing. But then again, I’m no member of the intelligentsia.
“And I hear that there are some Dem’s in high places who want to do away with 401k’s.
Control freaks. Do all you can to keep folks dependant on government. And increase your power at the same time.
Geez…are you guys getting desperate or what?
Give it up already…Obama’s gonna win by a landslide!!!
Newspaper shows Obama belonged to socialist party new evidence indicates membership
Evidence has emerged that Sen. Barack Obama
belonged to a socialist political party that sought to elect members to public office with the aim of moving the Democratic Party far leftward to ultimately form a new political party with a socialist agenda.
Several blogs, including Powerline, previously documented that while running for the Illinois state Senate in 1996 as a Democrat, Obama actively sought and received the endorsement of the socialist-oriented New Party, with some blogs claiming Obama was a member of the controversial party.
The New Party, formed by members of the Democratic Socialists for America and leaders of
an offshoot of the Community Party USA, was an electoral alliance that worked alongside the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. The New Party’s aim was to help elect politicians to office who espouse its policies.
Among New Party members was linguist and radical activist Noam Chomsky.
— * The New Party was a third political party in the United States that tried to re-
introduce the practice of electoral fusion as a political strategy for labor unions and
community organizing groups.
* Chomsky has stated that his “personal visions are fairly traditional anarchist ones, with origins in The Enlightenment and classical liberalism”[39] and he has praised libertarian socialism.[40] He is a sympathizer of anarcho-syndicalism[41] and a member of the IWW union.[42] He has published a book on anarchism titled, “Chomsky on Anarchism”, which was published by the anarchist book collective, AK Press, in 2006.
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swallow_my_nickel
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:27 am | Permalink
…and I’ll bet ACORN has all of them (Sheriff Andy Taylor, Opie Taylor, Richie Cunningham, The Fonz) registered in every state possible, too.
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“boy” if it were me and I had the resources Obama has at his disposal it wouldnt have taken me 2 days to get there. And I wouldnt have taken time out to do interviews about it for Good Morning Amerika.
Heckler
Posted October 24, 2008 at 6:05 am | Permalink
XXX
Dude, I found a photo of you out there on the inter tubes. Lookin good. Not exactly as I had pictured you, but close.
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Starting kind of early, aren’t we?
Your continuing interest in me is quite flattering. Maybe someday you can meet the REAL XXX.
“Our total now shows Obama at 375 electoral votes, the highest total we have seen for any candidate in either 2004 or 2008. Unless John McCain can pull a rabbit out of the hat next week, it looks bad for him. New polls show Obama with a 10-point lead in Indiana and a 4-point lead in Montana, two very red states.”
And the death knell continues to toll for the McCain Campaign:
New polls paint bleak battleground map for McCain campaign
A series of new polls released Thursday found a bleak outlook for John McCain, even in traditionally Republican states, and a potential landslide victory for Democrat Barack Obama on Nov. 4.
The polls found McCain trailing Obama in the battleground states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania and suggest that he’s behind even in solidly red states such as Indiana, and they also suggest that his talk about “Joe the Plumber” has done little to help his cause. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/54703.html
It’s a little early to count McCain out. He’s the original “Come back Kid”. But the numbers sure look good for Obama.
Maybe McCain can write a book after this is all over
Like I told Heck, Reg…give it up..your guy’s gonna lose BIG time!
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Mary, I hate to tell you but if Obama wins, then we ALL lose BIG time and you are part of that ALL.
As you know, Biden has stated, “Mark my words, it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. Watch. We’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
FYI: John Kennedy had the Cuban Crisis to contend with. Now they are telling us that we will have another crisis like Kennedy. We have not been hit since 9/11/01. I believe they are telling us to get ready to be hit again.
Then I cannot believe, yes I can, the audacity of the next statement that Biden tells us, “And he’s going to need help…stand with him. Because it’s not going to be apparent initially; it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.”
FYI: They know how badly they have treated Bush on this Iraq War so they want to make sure that you, the democrats, don’t treat Obama the way they trained you to treat Bush. So no matter what Obama does, even when it looks like it’s not right, PLEASE!!!! keep supporting him.
I think you dems have a tough job ahead of you. It will be hard to support a president who you voted for, who is going to allow us to face a major crisis especially one that is purposely generated; and that he even had the audacity to warn you about it and then say support me no matter what. The dems don’t have a good track record on that one, do they?
Another Republican Governor Backs Obama
Former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld (R) endorsed Sen. Barack Obama for president, the Boston Globe reports.
Said Weld: “Senator Obama is a once-in-a-lifetime candidate who will transform our politics and restore America’s standing in the world. We need a president who will lead based on our common values and Senator Obama demonstrates an ability to unite and inspire.”
Yesterday, former Minnesota Gov. Arne Carlson (R) announced his support for Obama.
Weld publicly endorsed Mitt Romney for the presidency on January 8, 2007. Weld served as the co-chairman for Romney’s campaign in New York State.[7] On the same day that Weld endorsed Romney, Gov. and Mrs. Weld also raised $50,000 for Romney’s exploratory committee. Weld personally made a donation of $2,100 dollars, the maximum allowed per person per election at the time. He later donated another $200 dollars (the new maximum allowed was $2,300).
Weld was also active in campaigning for Governor Romney in New Hampshire where both Governors have been known to travel together.
Wiki
“As soon as I’m sure the stock market has pretty much bottomed out we’ll put 12 grand in a Roth IRA.”
Top of the morning to you there Hank! (I’m me now, thank-you very much) Nice of you to cover for me last night.
The better half and I also max out the Roth deal this year for the fifty and over crowd. Only we dollar cost average and make monthly contributions – so we pretty much have taken a beating this year.
But wanted to make sure you were aware of the 401K provisions too. My max this year is 20,500 and the Mrs is aiming high too. But again, this has been periodic investments each payday – so we are beat up here too.
The good news is I don’t have to worry about Obama raising taxes on capital gains: Or if they start taxing our retirement savings (that is their next stop). Means testing won’t be an issue either.
‘Democrats Far More Aggressive in Seminole County,’ Victim Says’
“LONGWOOD, Fla. — The home of a Central Florida Republican headquarters manager was shot up and damaged over his support of Sen. John McCain, the man told police.
Rog Coverely said several pellets pierced his Longwood home. Coverely showed several spiderwebbed-holes in the front windows of his home.
The Republican manager said he is convinced he was targeted because of new McCain signs he added around his home.
“All I can tell you is this, I have a very good relationship with my neighbors,” Coverely said. “I mow my lawn. The only thing that has changed is I have two McCain signs in my front yard.”
Coverely said he has taken about 300 calls concerning stolen or vandalized McCain signs in the area.
“It says this campaign is getting vicious,” Coverely said.
Coverely said it appears Democrats are becoming more aggressive in the county.
“I wouldn’t say slipping, but I would say the Democrats have become far more aggressive in Seminole County because it is such a heavy Republican area,” Coverely said.
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Heckler
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:10 am | Permalink
XXX
Sorry to hear about that. Thats always challenging.
I have some software training at work all next week. Lunch time will be too short. It’ll have to be another week.
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Busy, Busy, Busy! But I understand. Let’s not let this slip by the wayside. Maybe week after next? Then we’ll really have something to discuss, LOL!
BlueJay – what strikes me on that Electoral College map is that there are 260 STRONG Obama votes. That means if he can just hold onto one ow two of the ‘weak’ or ‘barely’ Obama states he is in. McCain must run the table of everything that is even remotely in play.
That said – things remain volatile. And, with the stock market crash continuing today and the recession deepening I think it will get even worse for the Party of Herbert Hoover.
Boxlock
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:18 am | Permalink
Republican HQ Manager’s Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
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Hmmmmm, no suspects, no witnesses. Quite the rush to judgment there, Boxlock.
“And I hear that there are some Dem’s in high places who want to do away with 401k’s.”
And heckie reveals the truth about what a parnoid nut job he is.
Yes indeed, go read his link. You’ll find that what he is wetting the bed about is NOT being seriously considered. It was proposed by someone NOT in congress, as part of a larger plan. The larger plan was discussed, but it isnt under serious consideration.
His link is mostly quotes from big money investment people about how awful it would be.
I wonder if the ever paranoid and heckler pooped the bed as well as peed his panties over this imagined boogy man?
Go to his link. See what it really says. Then you can laugh your ass off at heckler.
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Heckler
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:22 am | Permalink
XXX
“Busy, Busy, Busy! But I understand. Let’s not let this slip by the wayside. Maybe week after next? Then we’ll really have something to discuss, LOL!”
Lunch. Nov,3 or 4th. But you can’t vote before we eat.
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How about Nov 3? 11:30? Let’s make it interesting. Hooters on North Rock.
I’m not laughing either. Wheat has closed below five dollars a bushel almost all week. And crop inputs are estimated this year to be over seven dollars a bushel.
Maybe it’s time to cash out on farming? I mean, before the eighties are here again?
Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.
House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.
A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered. She testified last week before Miller’s Education and Labor Committee on her proposal.
At that hearing, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, Peter Orszag,
testified that some $2 trillion in retirement savings has been lost over the past 15 months.
Under Ghilarducci’s plan, all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted
subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration.
The money in turn would be invested in special government bonds that would pay 3 percent a year, adjusted for inflation.
The current system of providing tax breaks on 401(k) contributions and earnings would be eliminated.
So, instead of getting around 15% on my 401k investments, I’ll get a government bond at
3%. Why don’t they just kick me straight in the groin while they are at it? Seriously, this is what passes for a reform to Democrats?
John Belluardo, president of Stewardship Financial Services Inc. said it best when he said, “From where I sit that’s just crazy…If the tax deferral goes away, the employers have no reason to do the matches, which primarily help people in the lower income brackets.”
But the problem with the 401k plan is it’s seated in individual and personal responsibility. And another big factor is the billions of dollars the Democrats don’t get to tax. Both of those run counter to the Democrats philosophy of having government be the nanny of the masses.
The Democrats simply cannot get enough of your property and they won’t hesitate to create new ways to take more of it. Here is a plan, the 401k plan, that is far more credible than Social Security, and they want to take money from it, essentially taking money out of the economy, and give it to government bureaucrats for their failed inter-generational Ponzi scheme.
U.S. stocks plummeted in pre-market trading this morning and pre-trading on the Standard & Poor’s 500 index fell by so much that pre-market trading was halted.
Well this doesn’t bode well for the economy. Fortunately, I got out of the market last spring except for a few shares that I think will survive the fall.
Are you repubs enjoying watching your investments and 401k dwindle?
Wouldn’t this be a crappy time to consider retirement?
Yeah, it’s a lot of fun. The world is down about 10% today. Are yours not dwindling XXX?
This fear of a recession is ridiculous. We’ve all been through them. Get into it, hit bottom and start the recovery. It is a part of the normal business cycle. Trying to fight it by throwing money at it is like trying to stop the tide from coming in with a bucket.
Boxlock
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:18 am | Permalink
Republican HQ Manager’s Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
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I think I’ve figured out why you guys keep up the insanity re:Obama even though it hurts McCain/Palin far, far more than it hurts Obama. The rational part anyway.
Current working theory: Iraq + Terry Schiavo + Katrina + The Bailout, the sum of that list is a far, far, far smaller amount in your mind than in the mind of the average voter. There must be vast swaths of Red America that just haven’t accurately calculated the damage self-inflicted by the GOP on the GOP yet.
By the way, is this FLA shootout anything like the TX girl who got carved up in PA? How is that one turning out today? Any updates on the TX girl? :D
“A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered.”
note
“Under Ghilarducci’s plan”
It is HER plan, not the plan of “high level democrats”.She testified at a hearing. It is NOT under serious consideration. If she hadnt been heard, you would have said congress wasnt looking at all possible alternatives.
Hell, the 911 conspiracy people testified at hearings too. So did Code Pink. Are you saying all THAT is under serious consideration? Jesus WEPT!
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“John Belluardo, president of Stewardship Financial Services Inc. said”
Quotes investment guy. A quote from one of those high level democrats supporting this? Not so much.
Money saving suggestion: AT&T U-verse is in town, check it out. They came out this week and my phone, internet and television is now digital. Installation if free, reception on television is comparable to HD, even the clarity on the phones is a noticeable improvement, internet connection faster AND it all costs less! I went from Dish Network but would have realized even greater savings if the change had been from Cox.
Here’s a good article about go old Joe Biden and what if Obama’s wife had been on Saturday night live.http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78921
Good morning farmgrrl. Thank you. Company in town this week, the installation of my new ISP… Boy, I like this U-Verse!
I read a post from PMom saying she was so busy and so tired she didn’t have time to play but was still thinking about us. ;-( Hope she catches up with herself and gets to plays sometime soon.
Did you all read the New York Times endorsement of Obama? WOW! If General Powell was speaking to the Republican Party in his endorsement, read this one! Of course, the two groups (neocons and religious nutjobs) who need to heed the words — won’t. They’re too far off in Nutland to recognize reality.
outlander
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:40 am | Permalink
Yeah, it’s a lot of fun. The world is down about 10% today. Are yours not dwindling XXX?
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Outlander,
Actually, I’m doing ok. I’ve seen this coming for a while and have had time to prepare for it. My 401k is pretty conservative and I’m doing a lot better than most of my friends.
Been around but still very relevant and coming true.
HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?
This is the most interesting thing I’ve read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming now.
I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.
How Long Do We Have?
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
‘A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.’
‘A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.’
‘>From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.’
‘The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years’
‘During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
3. from courage to liberty;
4. from liberty to abundance;
5. from abundance to complacency;
6. from complacency to apathy;
7. from apathy to dependence;
8. from dependence back into bondage’
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St.. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: ‘In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…’ Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the ‘complacency and apathy’ phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the ‘governmental dependency’ phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal’s and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
Will all you rich dems and libs here on WE spread some of your wealth? I could use an addition to my garage and a new car would be nice but, I want someboday else to pay for it. Why not spread your wealth around, not likely. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kNVPZaj1sYA
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:41 am | Permalink
Note
“A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered.”
note
“Under Ghilarducci’s plan”
It is HER plan, not the plan of “high level democrats”.She testified at a hearing. It is NOT under serious consideration. If she hadnt been heard, you would have said congress wasnt looking at all possible alternatives.
Hell, the 911 conspiracy people testified at hearings too. So did Code Pink. Are you saying all THAT is under serious consideration? Jesus WEPT!
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“John Belluardo, president of Stewardship Financial Services Inc. said”
Quotes investment guy. A quote from one of those high level democrats supporting this? Not so much.
And note the source of Reg’s link. RIGHTWINGNEWS?
Heh. Heheheheh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Betwetters.
Thanks for proving me right Reg. I appreciate it.
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Glad to oblige – you do realize if the democraps thought they could get away with it in an economic crisis, they would do it.
The crats are just looking after their own political necks first is the primary reason they aren’t pushing forward the legislation.
“Well this doesn’t bode well for the economy. Fortunately, I got out of the market last spring except for a few shares that I think will survive the fall.
Are you repubs enjoying watching your investments and 401k dwindle?
Wouldn’t this be a crappy time to consider retirement?”
Yeah XXX.
Especially if bush and his merry band of congressional REPUBLICANS had gotten their way and privatized Social Security.
Grandpa wouldnt have had a lawn anymore to chase kids off of, no?
Early on in the Clinton years the Democrats actually considered doing a one time tax on ALL 401k accounts to boost the treasury. That would have been in 1993 or 1994 before the Republicans took control of congress.
Look for more crap like this to come if Obama wins and the Dems get anything near a super majority in Congress.
…and no, I don’t have a link, that was a few years before wide-spread internet usage by the news media.
1. Grover Norquist’s useful idiot George W Bush’s “success” in pursuing the passive dismantling of government (leading it to the bathtub, as it were) has resulted in real harm to the US. Roads, bridges, science, business regulation: all of these are on life-support today.
2. This means that change at the margin can bring ENORMOUS improvement to Americans’ lives. In other words, there is a TON of low-hanging fruit right now, thanks mostly to the GOP.
3. A new government, one working to restore rather than dismantle government, can harvest that low-hanging fruit.
SUM: Obama is well on the road to looking like a great, great president. Especially if he gets a Democrat Congress which doesn’t mess it up Miss Rose Mary (which could easily happen).
The odds for a second Obama term, given a first, are excellent.
Anti, like all providers they have different packages but these compare to the content of Cox packages and there is a savings on all. They hooked up five televisions (I know — EXCESSIVE!), a wireless network, phone. The free DVR is installed and currently only allows the pause live TV, record… on that television but Dec. 20th they will have completed another level of digital wiring and all my televisions will have that capability (no need for them to return or additional DVRs). Allows you to pause what you’re watching for up to 90 minutes. You may record up to four shows simultaneously. I can access my account online from anywhere and schedule what I want to record (a movie, an entire series…). I have a free unlimited flick’r account and can (also online) make my photos appear as a slide show on television. telephone is unlimited local and long distance (including Canada). I had DSL thru sbc for internet and the new digital service thru U-Verse is noticeably faster.
I’m sounding like a commercial. Sorry. But this is new, in fact, I think not available in all of the city. Check it out. I am well pleased! The installation was professional and efficient AND FREE!
…and HOW is the country going to deal with it’s crumbling infrastructure?
If we dont raise taxes on someone, who will pay for the deteriorating bridges, highways, water systems? How will we pay to maintain our military bases and support the veterans and wounded warriors who will need lifetime care?
Borrow more from China?
That seems to be bushco’s answer. And the republican’s answer.
Why do bush and the republicans hate our children?
Let’s say you’re a Democrat and let’s say you’re running for president of the United States.
You’re a likable guy and are doing well–the New York Times and AP think you’re peachy–but there have been whispers of whether or not you are constitutionally qualified.
A prominent Democrat files suit in Federal court asking you to provide proof, to settle the matter once and for all.
What do you do?
* A. Provide the court with the three documents in question and go back to shaking
hands, making promises and smiling for the cameras.
* B. Provide images of one of the documents to a friendly website to post, but not to the court.
* C. Ignore the request, then make a motion to dismiss the case, in lieu of providing the proof.
* D. In the meantime, quietly, post a notice at your website, FighttheSmears.com that you had dual citizenship with Kenya.
* E. Hire the top gun attorney from the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)to fight the case.
* F. File a Joint Motion for Protective Order to Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on the Motion to Dismiss (which was) filed on 09/24/08, thereby putting the matter off until–hopefully–after the election.
Time’s up. What do you do?
Most readers sensibly chose A.
But, if you’re Barack Obama, you chose answers B, C, D, E and F.
A curious response for a campaign interested in “fighting the smears”.
What’s the big deal? Regular folks provide their birth certificates every day for any number of reasons: obtaining a driver’s license or marriage license come to mind. Heck, even kids have to provide a certified copy of their birth certificates to register for kindergarten in many locales.
Most people do it–if they’re able–without much grumbling.
And they’re not even running for President.
As DBKP kept asking for ten long months during the John Edwards’ scandal:
“If there is nothing to hide, why is everyone involved going to such lengths to hide it?”
Obama will have to take some very unpleasant actions to try to deal with the massive pile of unpaid bills left by the Bush/GOP spending binge of the past 8 years. This WILL require taxes and WILL also inhibit initaiting programs. Hopefully in four years we will be seeing an upward trend as we recover from the hangover but I’m just not sure. The Republics will seek to blame Obama and the Democrats for all of the pain caused by trying to pay of their credit card bills. Hopefully they will not succeed.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink
“Glad to oblige – you do realize if the democraps thought they could get away with it in an economic crisis, they would do it.”
Reg, why on earth would anyone, except a wonky professor, support this? What possible benefit would happen? It isnt just politics, it’s a dumb idea.
But while we’re on the subject, exactly HOW do you think this country will have to deal with the bush deficit?
You dont want to raise taxes or fees on the wealthy. Or on investments, or on anything.
How do you suggest the government deal with the wreckage left behind by the borrow and mortgage republicans?
I dont think “growing our way out” is going to work very well. Given the wreckage, it’s going to be all we can do to just tread water, much less grow.
Deficits DO matter. St. ronnie raygun and his supply side suckers were wrong.
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I agree, it’s a wonky idea from a nutty Professor.
Which, I might add, had the ear of two powerful Democratic Congressmen on the Ways and Means committee.
Of course, the Crats do enjoy peeing on the electric fence.
Thanks Linda, I had Dish Network at one time and was very pleased. I have ATT DSL internet now and have had extensive issues with that…I won’t even get into the customer service headaches..Anyway I may check into the U-Verse since it sounds like it doesn’t run off of the telephone lines. (My problems were with the actual telephone lines mainly)
Regular – right now I think what the hearings are doing is listening to ALL possible proposals. That does not mean that they are endorsing any of them.
“A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.”
Funny . . . George W. Bush kept telling us that “Democracy was on the march.” The man loved that line.
BTW, the American version of democracy, though very imperfect, has been in place for 232 years, Europe and England 200 years, India some 60 years.
Looks like the old Scottish professor, who was probably a devout monarchist since he was writing BEFORE ANY MODERN DEMOCRACIES HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED, was pretty much full of crap.
But it’s not surprising that CONs secretly long for King. It’s just another version of “big, strong authoritarian daddy” they ascribe to . . .
Palin’s Makeup Stylist Fetches Highest Salary in 2-Week Period
By Michael Luo
Who was the highest paid individual in Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign during the first half of October as it headed down the homestretch?
Not Randy Scheunemann, Mr. McCain’s chief foreign policy adviser; not Nicolle Wallace, his senior communications staff member. It was Amy Strozzi, who was identified by the Washington Post this week as Gov. Sarah Palin’s traveling makeup artist, according to a new filing with the Federal Election Commission on Thursday night. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/pains-makeup-stylist-fetches-highest-salary-in-2-week-period/
bth, the key is how much and how ripe is the low-hanging fruit.
I think there’s a lot and it’s very ripe. Just the change in direction — away from government passivity and to government action — should break to Obama’s advantage (and ours).
Plus the GOP is going to undergo a massive blood-letting. Odds are also excellent that they’ll empower the fringe, not the winners (they’ll argue that McCain just wasn’t “conservative enough”). I’m bettin’ we see the Obama Chronicles within a year.
If the GOP is still shooting “Obama’s fake birth certificate” and “Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist” bullets at Obama, hopefully that is easily marginalized.
“Reg, why on earth would anyone, except a wonky professor, support this? What possible benefit would happen? It isn’t just politics, it’s a dumb idea.”
I have a hard time believing that you are this naive KFG. There are some serious hard core Marxists and Communists in Congress. They want to control as much of what goes on in this country as they can. They want as many people as possible dependant on government. It is power to them. And they are truly power freaks.
They don’t think like you, they despise capitalism. They want sameness and uniformity for everyone. They would rather see everyone live in mediocrity than see a few live in poverty.
There’s 3 or 4 of them on this board. They’ve said as much themselves.
“I have a hard time believing that you are this naive KFG. There are some serious hard core Marxists and Communists in Congress. They want to control as much of what goes on in this country as they can. They want as many people as possible dependant on government. It is power to them. And they are truly power freaks.
They don’t think like you, they despise capitalism. They want sameness and uniformity for everyone. They would rather see everyone live in mediocrity than see a few live in poverty.”
Good god.
That you are THAT paranoid and delusional blows MY mind!
“Plus the GOP is going to undergo a massive blood-letting. Odds are also excellent that they’ll empower the fringe, not the winners (they’ll argue that McCain just wasn’t “conservative enough”).”
Oh yeah. Just like after bushco phocked things up, they said shrub wasnt a real conservative!
Popping the popcorn now!
I wonder where the real republicans will go after they abandon the shell of the party inhabited by the religious right and the neocons?
“The “Fair Tax”, make America the tax haven to the world. Economic expansion on steroids.”
Can you prove that? Because no REAL economist supports that. They may support it for it’s purported “fairness” fantasy, but no serious economist thinks it will “grow” anything.
I think you just hit the third installment of the wingnut trifecta…
“BTW, did you notice how crime rates PLUNGED after Kansas passed concealed carry?
Uh, yeah.
Neither did I.”
—Capn
And neither did blood run in the streets either.
Notice how few incidence of concealed carry holders are committing crimes, or negligent discharges occure with them?
Like what….next to none!
The purpose of CCW is not to reduce crime, it is to recognize the right to self protection. I’m not out fighting crime….I do want to protect my family.
Capn, it simply amazes me how you, and most DimLibs, make judgments based on emotion, feelings, opinions, and simply ignore the facts, even when they overwhelmingly contradict what you are endorsing. As is this case.
“If the GOP is still shooting “Obama’s fake birth certificate” and “Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist” bullets at Obama, hopefully that is easily marginalized.”
My words. Marginalizing these guys needs to be handled very carefully, in a way that gives them a path to the mainstream, so that they always have a way back from their nutty selves. Clinton’s sneering at them for 8 years backfired on John Kerry, credit where credit is due.
Managing America’s fringe and treating them as fully deserving Americans should be a top, TOP priority.
Your Google Foo is weak. Found this in 15 seconds. It was second or third on the list.
Yeah it’s just a forum, I’ll keep looking and bring you more.
“In an effort to increase funds for Social Security, the Hildabeast presented a bill to Congress to impliment a “ONE Time” 15% tax on ALL 401K’s and ALL Retirement Funds! Good thing the Republicans were in the majority when this finnaly made it to a vote, because had this passed it would have become a habit, and not a “one time fix” “
The actual line reads: “This copy serves a prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
So, you’re not just accusing Obama of legal fraud, but the entire system in place in Hawaii.
You got nothing.
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Where is the notarized seal that is on every vault certified certificate from Hawaii?
If I was to go get my birth certificate right now, in order for it to be certified and legal, it would have to be accompanied with an affidavit of legal conformity by notarized seal.
Obama’s birth certificate you reference does not have this.
You see that big empty space on the certificate?
That’s where the seal and the signature of the notary goes.
Actually kfg, As you can see from this link, the fair tax is supported by real economists for a host of reasons. But, it would involve real change in the entrenched system, so it is unlikely to get much serious consideration.
“Can you prove that? Because no REAL economist supports that. They may support it for it’s purported “fairness” fantasy, but no serious economist thinks it will “grow” anything.”
Think about it for a moment. No taxes on business or or income. Think of all the money that US corporations hold overseas to avoid taxes. Think of all the hoops wealthy people jump through to find offshore tax havens to shelter their money from income taxes. What happens when all that money comes home and works in our economy instead of someone else’s?
Doesn’t take an Ivy League economist to figure that out.
“Think about it for a moment. No taxes on business or or income.”
Heheheh. It’s a republican wet dream. Betting on horses is gambling, not sound economics.
No wonder no credible economist says it would result in paying off our debt, and our children’s debt, and their children’s debt to China.
Only in your mind heckie. And freeperville.
If I were you, I’d observe the first rule of holes here. But I secretly hope you dont. I’m having waaaaay too much fun laughing at your unsubstantiated economic fantasy.
Pedant
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:28 am | Permalink
“If the GOP is still shooting “Obama’s fake birth certificate” and “Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist” bullets at Obama, hopefully that is easily marginalized.”
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You’re way behind now, Pedant! We now have naked pictures of Obama’s mama! Taken by his ‘real daddy’!
Anti we had U-verse hooked up on Sept. 4th. Really like it but have had a few problems with the phone part. It sometimes hangs up on our callers. We got a $200 rebate just for signing up online. They sent us two visa cards with $100 on each of them. A little Christmas money.
I was also on dish and by the time we paid for the extra receivers we needed we are paying about the same. Will go down after the Dec changes as Linda noted. We also had to buy the Sports channels and that is $10 extra a month but we get pro and college sports from all over.
You have to have fiber optic phone lines in your area to be able to hook up to it.
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:03 am | Permalink
The Dow is set to open at 8200.
Man, things haven’t been this bad since Bush’s first full year in office . . .
And ya gotta love McSame bleating over and over again, “I’m NOT BUSH. I’m NOT BUSH.”
So, who’s do you hate, CONs? Bush or McCain?
Because according to McCain, Bush is bad.
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But isn’t this a self-indictment, since McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time in the last 8 years. Does anyone in the McCain camp have their head out of their asses? Doesn’t appear so to me.
This is so much fun, I’ve worked up an appetite. Where’s Monkeyhawk so I can rub it in that I’m going to fry up some bacon and then cook runny eggs in the grease and eat it all with hot buttered toast. Wash it down with cajun coffee and heavy cream, mi cher!
Loved what someone sent me this morning. This is Obama’s economic plan in action.
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Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
HLP
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:43 am | Permalink
You’re way behind now, Pedant! We now have naked pictures of Obama’s mama! Taken by his ‘real daddy’!
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Really? I live 20 miles from the nearest town, ten miles from the nearest paved road, and three miles from my nearest neighbor. And I have had fiber optics to my door for years.
I’m still trying to get the CON message figured out–according to Regular, Boxie, Heckler, OkObserver, outlander, Nathan and Hank, Bush was a great president.
But still they support the candidate who makes it clear that HE IS NOT BUSH (i.e., he opposes Bush’s policies).
I guess tolerance to hold two completely diametrically opposing positions is what one has to do to call himself a CON these days.
But don’t call it “moral relativism” or anything like that.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink
“I know we don’t have FO lines in my area”
Really? I live 20 miles from the nearest town, ten miles from the nearest paved road, and three miles from my nearest neighbor. And I have had fiber optics to my door for years.
Hell, even the chickens have high speed internet!
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Freaking extraterrestrial alien collaborator!!!
Electoral Vote (http://electoral-vote.com) puts Kansas at Obama 41%, McCain 53%. Even in Kansas, McCain can’t do as well as Bush did in 2000 and 2004, while Obama is doing better than Kerry in 2004, Gore in 2000, Clinton in 1996 and 1992.
2004: Kerry 34% Bush 66%
2000: Gore 38% Bush 60%
1996: Clinton 40% Bush 48%
1992: Clinton 34% Bush 43%
Hell, most of the time I have two guns with me! I still carry my Kimber Ultra Carry II but I realized it’s a little much for varmits.
I do everything I can to eliminate skunks, racoons and other little nocturnal varmits I see in the light of day at the stables. I now also carry a Beretta U22 Neos for varmits.
I can kill a skunk in the duck pen without bowing the feathers off the ducks!
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink
“I know we don’t have FO lines in my area”
Really? I live 20 miles from the nearest town, ten miles from the nearest paved road, and three miles from my nearest neighbor. And I have had fiber optics to my door for years.
Hell, even the chickens have high speed internet!
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Yes, I know they are common in your area KFG. I used to do a lot of Road and Bridge construction Inspection in that part of the state…..It cost BIG Bucks when a contractor cuts an FO line and someone usually gets fired!
This is why I am surprised that I don’t have close access to a line where I live…but this is Sedgwick Co. after all!
Steven just a clarification for you. Bush doesn’t vote in the senate. Give a source for this 90% vote thing you guys keep throwing around.
Leftist logic: Throw it against the wall 3 times and it becomes fact. You guys have thrown that one around alot and still no substantiation.
At least Obama is consistent. He has a real problem with truth. He says he voted against the Iraq war. He was a state senator when that vote was taken. He did however vote not to fund our troops who were fighting a war. But we all know truth isn’t his strong suit. Afterall he lied to 50 million viewers, you would be included in that, during the last debate. McCain directly asked if his political career was launched in Ayers living room. He lied and said NO.
The outgoing senator he was hoping to replace ‘introduced him to the demo party at a meeting in the living room of *Bill Ayers*. This according to the women he was replacing. Truth isn’t in the man. Glad he is your candidate.
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink
Regular opines:
You see that big empty space on the certificate?
That’s where the seal and the signature of the notary goes.
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OMGorsh, you’re right! You should write for the LA Times because no one of their crack legal staff noticed this.
In fact, no one in the country seems to have noticed it except for some wacked-out far-right websites.
But I shouldn’t trust major newspapers all across the country. I should trust a semi-recluse who lives with his sister in Wichita.
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Maybe I should.
Anyone with half a brain knows that in order for a birth certificate to be accepted for purposes of a passport or in a court of law, it has to be a vault copy that is certified and signed by a notary or local legal authority.
A hospital certificate printed out on a laser is not a certified copy.
“Box–
I’m not the one who’s so scared of walking around in America, he has to tote a gun.”
—-Capn
And neither do I, but I am responsible, and my CCW shows that not only I, but society and law enforcement think so too, and my ‘record’ and ‘history’ show that as well.
Can’t say that now can ya about yourself Capn.
It takes a thoughtful commitment and acceptance of responsibility to get a CCW, something most DimLibs simply aren’t capable of from what I’ve seen.
The reason they are so against CCW is they know they can not make that commitment or accept that responsibility and think everyone else is no more capable and able than themselves. But….they are wrong.
After the Obama campaign released a copy of the birth certificate, however, Politifact says they went a step further: “We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real. ‘It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,’ spokesman Janice Okubo told us.”
Politifact says, “When the official documents were questioned, we went looking for more answers.” “If this document is forged,” Politifact says, “a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (ILL.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.”
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:54 am | Permalink
This is so much fun, I’ve worked up an appetite. Where’s Monkeyhawk so I can rub it in that I’m going to fry up some bacon and then cook runny eggs in the grease and eat it all with hot buttered toast. Wash it down with cajun coffee and heavy cream, mi cher!
I’ll need CPR in 3…2…1….
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Good morning Farm Lady!
Duck eggs! I’m getting so many duck eggs that we’re starting to pickle them!
Three duck eggs over easy, sausage from the butcher shop in Lucas, Kansas, homemade biscuits with homemade sand plum jelly, real grits, (not instant) mmmm, mmmm, mmmm.
Anyone with half a brain knows that in order for a birth certificate to be accepted for purposes of a passport or in a court of law, it has to be a vault copy that is certified and signed by a notary or local legal authority.
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
Sen. John McCain has improved his odds of capturing one of Florida’s most competitive counties at the same time a crucial Ohio battleground seems increasingly out of reach, according to a new Politico/InsiderAdvantage poll.
While Sen. Barack Obama has widened his lead in Ohio’s Franklin County, where Columbus is located, McCain has gained ground in Hillsborough County, which includes the city of Tampa and is one of the Sunshine State’s most competitive areas.
McCain trails Obama in Hillsborough by just two points, 46 percent to 44 percent. That represents a four-point improvement for McCain since Politico’s last Hillsborough survey, conducted October 12, which showed Obama leading 47 percent to 41 percent.
But Obama has strengthened his standing in Ohio’s Franklin County, where he currently holds an 11-point lead over McCain, outpacing the Republican nominee by 51 percent to 40 percent. Politico’s previous poll of Franklin County, conducted October 13, showed a closer race there, with Obama ahead by just five percentage points, 45 percent to 40 percent.
“Three duck eggs over easy, sausage from the butcher shop in Lucas, Kansas, homemade biscuits with homemade sand plum jelly, real grits, (not instant) mmmm, mmmm, mmmm.”
“We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it’s stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates).”
And from your house.gov link? Heheheh. A republican committee screed of opinion? HAHAHAHAHAH
“Many experts believe the final stage and the ultimate objective of the Clinton Administration is to implement a five to ten percent quota on private pension funds.”
Quotas are not taxes. And Clinton didnt propose it, nor did Reich.
Keep looking heckie. And remember, I’ll actually READ the link.
Boortz? heheheh. HAHAHAHAHAH. From townhall? Or freeperville? Source please?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:57 am | Permalink
“I saw ‘em! Whoda thunk communism is genetic?”
Didnt we read recently that the need for religion is hard wired? Does that make it genetic?
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No clue, religion is far above my pay grade.
However, there are other needs that I KNOW are hard wired, ahem. :D
For example, has anybody read Kathleen Parkers latest? I’m thinking the 28%-ers are gonna be doin’ some S E R I O U S birth cerfiticate work on ‘ol Kathy after this one:
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“…McCain had met Palin only once — in February, at the governors’ convention in Washington — before the day he selected her as his running mate. The second time was at his Sedona, Ariz., ranch on Aug. 28, just four days before the GOP convention.
As Draper tells it, McCain took Palin to his favorite coffee-drinking spot down by a creek and a sycamore tree. They talked for more than an hour, and, as Napoleon whispered to Josephine, “Voilà.”
One does not have to be a psychoanalyst to reckon that McCain was smitten. By no means am I suggesting anything untoward between McCain and his running mate. Palin is a governor, after all. She does have an executive résumé, if a thin one. And she’s a natural politician who connects with people.
But there can be no denying that McCain’s selection of her over others far more qualified — and his mind-boggling lack of attention to details that matter — suggests other factors at work. His judgment may have been clouded by . . . what?”
CAIRO, Egypt — An American university student in Iran to visit family and research women’s rights has been arrested and held in prison for more than a week, rights group Amnesty International said.
Esha Momeni, a student at California State University, Northridge, was driving on a highway in Tehran when she was stopped by authorities who said they were traffic police, the London-based Amnesty said.
Iranian officials said Momeni was arrested Oct. 15 for a traffic offense. But Amnesty said in a statement Tuesday she was taken to her family’s home where her computer and other materials related to her research on the Iranian women’s movement were confiscated.
Momeni, who is a member of the California branch of Change for Equality — an Iranian women’s rights group — was later taken to Evin prison, the Tehran facility notorious for holding political prisoners, Amnesty said.
It truly amazes me that some people have spent so much time questioning Obama’s birth certificate, based on a weird, unsupported fear of him being foreign-born, all the while knowing that John McCain was born in Panama.
Sending the troops home would do wonders for our economy!!! We should support them 100%.
Iraqis Protest Draft of Troop Agreement
In Iraq, protests continue against the proposed security pact that would allow US forces to stay in Iraq for at least three more years. On Thursday, lawmakers with the Sadr bloc held a sit-in against the current proposals.
Fawzi Akram: “It is a clear message to the Iraqi government, US government, the occupation and to all the honest and patriotic people who work for the sake of Iraq’s unity, land, people, flag and sovereignty, those who work for what is right and just, to join us and make Iraq’s sovereignty and national interest above all.”
The draft calls for a full US withdrawal by 2012, but leaves open the possibility of a later date. US soldiers would also retain immunity from prosecution for all actions except those committed “off-duty” and not in combat. Critics have dismissed the provision, because US troops seldom leave their bases in Iraq unless on authorized missions.
“…Then there are those conservatives who see Palin as a “fatal cancer to the Republican Party” (David Brooks), as someone who “doesn’t know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin” (Kathleen Parker), as “a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics” (Peggy Noonan).
These conservatives deserve credit for acknowledging how ill-suited Palin is for high office. But what we see here is a deep split between parts of the conservative elite and much of the rank and file.
For years, many of the elite conservatives were happy to harvest the votes of devout Christians and gun owners by waging a phony class war against “liberal elitists” and “leftist intellectuals.” Suddenly, the conservative writers are discovering that the very anti-intellectualism their side courted and encouraged has begun to consume their movement.
The cause of Edmund Burke, Leo Strauss, Robert Nisbet and William F. Buckley Jr. is now in the hands of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity — and Sarah Palin. Reason has been overwhelmed by propaganda, ideas by slogans, learned manifestoes by direct-mail hit pieces.”
–EJ Dionne, today’s Wapo
FGM is a social custom, not a religious practice. However, in those Muslim countries where it is practice, FGM is often justified by a controversial saying attributed to the Prophet Mohammed that seem to favor sunna circumcision involving minor cutting of the clitoris. The authenticity of these sayings are unconfirmed, and some scholars have refuted them. Even if true, they only permit the practice; they do not mandate it.
FGM has probably been performed for at least 1,400 years (some references estimate 2,000 years), and started during what Muslims call “al-gahiliyyah” (the era of ignorance). The Qu’r'an, Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) and Christian Scriptures (New Testament) is silent on the subject. The Sunnah (the words and actions of the Prophet Mohammed) contains a reference to female circumcision.
I must say, for CapnAmerica to call anyone down for a falsehood takes a lot of audacity, since he will slip a falsehood or a halftruth into most every post he makes. But for CapnAmerica, the end justifies the means.
The idea that the GREATEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD were ever going to break for John McCain and the Republican Party was laughable on its face, and is now solidly refuted by the numbers: Jews prefer Obama over McCain 3-1, 74% to 22%.
It’s called “grasping at straws,” along with ad hominem and red herring.
Actually, I suppose I was being a little rhetorical. I had a good idea what Regular, Franklin and whoever else brought up that dumb non-story had in mind.
Leaving aside the distraction from McCain’s foreign birth (which no one’s really made an issue), it’s all part of the same crap that gave us “Hussein Osama Obama.” It’s the bone-in-the-nose, big ol’ scary black man comin’ from the jungle to assault our women and eat our children!
At least, that’s the only way to make (bad) sense of it. Either way, they’re insane.
Former Bush press secretary backs Obama
By DAVID BAUDER
AP Television Writer
NEW YORK – Scott McClellan, President Bush’s former press secretary who angered old colleagues with a tell-all book earlier this year, said Thursday he is backing Barack Obama for president.
McClellan is the second former administration official to back the Democratic candidate this week. Former Secretary of State Colin Powell came out Sunday for Obama.
While Powell chose “Meet the Press” to make his news, McClellan did it at the taping of comedian D.L. Hughley’s new talk show, which is premiering 10 p.m. Saturday on CNN.
Hughley found a little begging helped.
“We are a new show and your endorsement would probably mean a lot,” Hughley said. “But don’t look at the fact that I am black or, no pressure. Endorse somebody, damn it!”
McClellan, who was Bush’s chief spokesman from July 2003 to April 2006, said he’s always planned to support the candidate that has the best chance for changing the way Washington works and getting things done.
“I will be voting for Barack Obama,” he said.
McClellan is also giving an extended interview on “Larry King Live” on Friday to talk about his endorsement.
McClellan grew disillusioned after leaving the administration and wrote a book, “What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception,” that surprised many for its blunt talk. He admitted to being part of a White House effort to shade the truth about the case for war in Iraq.
The White House said Bush was surprised and saddened about the book.
The pension bandits are on the loose – Bill Clinton’s economic proposals to tax pension contributions and investment earnings – Column
Insight on the News, March 15, 1993 by Paul Craig Roberts
President Clinton is proposing to grab $450 billion of our accumulated private pension fund assets, thereby seriously reducing our living standards during retirement. In addition, he is proposing to make us pay income tax on both annual contributions to our pensions and earnings of the pension investments.
To carry off his scheme, he has nominated a vociferous advocate of pension taxation, Alicia Munnell, to be assistant Treasury secretary for econornic policy. Munnell believes that the United States does not invest enough in public works projects and that part of our pensions should be confiscated to pay for more federal boondoggles.
John McCain Meets with War Criminals and Terrorists Wanted By the US
John McCain, who has harshly criticized the idea of sitting down with dictators without pre-conditions, appears to have done just that. In 1985, McCain traveled to Chile for a friendly meeting with Chile’s military ruler, General Augusto Pinochet, one of the world’s most notorious violators of human rights credited with killing more than 3,000 civilians and jailing tens of thousands of others.
The private meeting between McCain and dictator Pinochet has gone previously un-reported anywhere.
According to a declassified U.S. Embassy cable secured by The Huffington Post, McCain described the meeting with Pinochet “as friendly and at times warm, but noted that Pinochet does seem obsessed with the threat of communism.” McCain, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee at the time, made no public or private statements critical of the dictatorship, nor did he meet with members of the democratic opposition in Chile, as far as could be determined from a thorough check of U.S. and Chilean newspaper records and interviews with top opposition leaders.
At the time of the meeting, in the late afternoon of December 30, the U.S. Justice Department was seeking the extradition of two close Pinochet associates for an act of terrorism in Washington DC, the 1976 assassination of former ambassador to the U.S. and former Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier. The car bombing on Sheridan Circle in the U.S. capital was widely described at the time as the most egregious act of international terrorism perpetrated on U.S. soil by a foreign power.
There’s a BBQ place in Missouri, called Strawberry’s. If you ever get a chance to be within a hundred miles or so of there, go. Eat. Best BBQ I’ve had in a long time.
And, when you’re paying your bill, ask them to sell ya 10 or 20 pounds of their sausage. They don’t advertise it, ya gotta ask. Best sausage I’ve ever had!
We’ll be there in December for a herding trial so I’ll be able to thaw out my last two pounds and eat it next month!
Prior to the 1994 elections, I was concerned about some of the signals that indicated that Clinton might try to confiscate private pensions for political purposes. After the elections, it seemed to me that Clinton would not be able to get away with any new regulations or laws that would give the government more control over your private retirement savings.
If Clinton wins the 1996 election and if there is a shift back to a Democratic majority in both houses, I would regard that as a serious “fire alarm”. The plans to raid pension assets that were put into the “deep freeze” after the 1994 election would most certainly be put back onto the “front burner”. If the Democrats regain control of the Congress and the Administration, it would be time for prompt action to preserve your retirement assets.
Capn posts,
“I most certainly can. I don’t need a CCW permit to prove I am a responsible, law-abiding citizen.
Where do you get off questioning my “record” and “history”?
Save your judgmental scorn for poor people and minorities . . . your usual targets.”
And how are you going to prove that, you’ve offered nothing of proof. I’m not accusing you of anything, but by the same token I have nothing to lead me to believe you are responsible either. Certainly your posts don’t reflect that.
You know much more about me than I you.
As a CCW holder I:
..Have NO felony convictions
..Have NEVER been convicted of domestic violence
..Have NO history of mental illness
..Have passed a thorough background check by both the sheriff’s office and the KBI
..Have passed mandatory State training in both the use of a firearm and the applicable law.
I don’t know those things about you.
And, I do not “scorn poor people and minorities”, I scorn anyone that isn’t responsible and wants to parasite off others in society. That’s all!
“…McCain plans in the closing days to focus on taxes and spending, national security, and what one adviser called “the perils of an Obama presidency with no checks and balances.”
The campaign will point to congressional Democrats’ claims about the agenda they plan in the new Congress, Obama’s “spread the wealth” remark to “Joe the Plumber” and Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s comment that his running mate would be tested internationally early in his presidency.
“We will focus like a laser on those messages in the closing days,” said the McCain adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk about strategy. …”
hee hee heee Pedant. I saw yesterday that liddy dole is conceding an obama presidency, and in her desperation to win her losing battle, she’s saying they should vote for her so the democrats dont control both houses of congress and the presidency.
Besides, I’m not against CC really. I might get one myself just for the heck of it. It’s like CPR training–good to know.
I’m just against the simple-minded clap-trap of the NRA types who think that the 2nd amendment is the only amendment in the Constitution or that the 2nd amendment “protects” all our other freedoms.
The 2nd amendment didn’t stop huge multinational investment banks from stealing us blind. Hell, they’re still doing it. It doesn’t stop off shoring of jobs and tax breaks for the corporations that do it.
The biggest expense we Americans bear is our military, and the NRA types LOVE IT because people get to carry guns.
That’s the only explanation for their love affair with big government welfare-for-the-rich which is officially called “military procurement.”
“Addendum: This report was written in late 1995, well before the 1996 elections. His administration did make some forays into mandated investments for pension funds, but nothing came of it.”
Jesus WEPT!
So now, instead of the bogus “tax 401k’s” you are switching subjects to pensions and them being “confiscated” or the equally bogus “mandated investments”?
Is there some part of “nothing came of it” from a WINGNUT website no less, that you dont understand?
brian_nuevo
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:16 am | Permalink
we wouldn’t need to spend so much on the military if the 2nd amendment was implemented as intended (and I could get my own fully loaded F16)
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I swear, watching the Palin/McCain ticket right now is like watching one of those America’s funniest home videos where a lap animal is swatting at a reflection of itself in the mirror, and mistaking it for reality.
These guys have spent so much effort in creating a fake domestic enemy in Obama and the Democrats, and howling enraged against their own fake creation, now the reality-based community watches on in horrified/bemused amazement while they willingly self-destruct.
It’s like my parents used to tell me, “if you’d put all the energy you put into thinking of ways to avoid chores INTO the actual chore itself, you’d be finished in no time.” If they’d put half the energy into governing that they put into creating and killing off fake Democrat enemies, they’d probably be a viable political party today.
GOP ca2008: needing a mommy figure to help ‘em step through their shadow boxing.
Just saw on the news that most, infact almost all, over 90% of the absentee ballots in Virgina won’t be counted if the person over this process has his way. This is the same person that has attempted to allow felons to register.
The ones in question are from Americans overseas. Almost all of them are military. The polls show these ballots are overwhelming, over 67%, for McCain.
okobserver
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:01 am | Permalink
Steven just a clarification for you. Bush doesn’t vote in the senate. Give a source for this 90% vote thing you guys keep throwing around.
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Granny,
Please tell me you are not as stupid as your posts.
Pedant it sounds as if you came from a family that recognized hard work and how we benefit from it. I’m sure they tried to raise you to appreciate this also. What went wrong?
okobserver
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:21 am | Permalink
Pedant it sounds as if you came from a family that recognized hard work and how we benefit from it. I’m sure they tried to raise you to appreciate this also. What went wrong?
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“It’s like my parents used to tell me, “if you’d put all the energy you put into thinking of ways to avoid chores INTO the actual chore itself, you’d be finished in no time.”
HA!
My folks used to say it was a good thing I was smart because they knew I’d be too lazy to actually work for a living…
Steven I have always tried to treat you as if you have a brain. It is hard at times. Bush didn’t vote so therefore McCain didn’t vote WITH him. McCain has had a history of not voting with the republicans as your link pointed out.
McCain did indeed earn his maverick nickname. He voted his convictions and not ‘present’.
Please tell me you aren’t as dumb as you sound at times.
farmgrrl, you will appreciate this one. I just heard McCain speaking in Colorado about the River Pact and he promised them Colorado would be keeping its water when he is pres. I know nothing about that River Pact, but I’m betting you do. Maybe has something to do with Kansas not getting water, hu?
“…Still, the McCain team has no illusions about the situation, knowing that the environment is extraordinarily difficult for a Republican.
The depth of their challenge was made plain yesterday by eight surveys produced by the Big Ten Battleground Poll. Obama not only leads in all eight Midwestern states by hefty margins but has improved his standing since the last time the group surveyed these states.
The numbers are startling. Obama leads by 12 points in Ohio, 11 in Pennsylvania and 13 in Wisconsin. In Michigan, where McCain’s campaign has pulled out, Obama’s lead is 22 points. In Indiana, a strong red state, his lead is 10 points, larger than in other recent polls.
Quinnipiac University also released polls yesterday from Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida that show Obama leading in all three. In these surveys, his lead in Pennsylvania is 13 points. In Ohio, which is a must-win for McCain, Obama’s lead is 14 points.”
Jesus grmie, there’s been a video of mcsame SAYING he’s voted WITH bush more than ninety percent of the time. He also notes that’s more than most of his republican fellows.
“I’m just against the simple-minded clap-trap of the NRA types….”
Ain’t that the truth!
The sorry truth is the NRA is simply a marketing arm of the firearms industry.
John Lott’s “study’ was funded by the Olin Foundation, built on the profits of the ammunition subsidiary of Whichester.
And when it came to Concealed Carry, the NRA dropped all its decades of railing against registering guns and gun-owners, just to get fuzzy-toothed rednecks to buy more guns.
Gun Owners of America is at least sincere in their constitutional arguments. Crazy, but sincere.
The NRA is simply another form of advertising.
Not that the strategy is intrinsically wrong. AARP serves the same purpose for what is basically an insurance company. But at leaster they’re open and honest about it.
Linda, that fight has been going on for decades! In G.C., when it is rumored that there is water in the river, people actually go down to take a picture of the 2 foot wide stream that usually stops before leaving town.
When I was a kid, my dad and I used to canoe on that river. As a teen and an adult I rode dirt bikes on that same ‘river’.
Boxlock, I have a lunch date and have to run. I hate to leave Steven alone though. Could you continue his education. Maybe keep him away from sharp corners and objects.
Linda, Colorado has EVERYTHING to do with western Kansas not getting it’s allotment of water from the Ark. Just like Nebraska has EVERYTHING to do with us not getting our allotment of water from the Republican River. The Federal Courts have sided repeatedly with Kansas.
But the pact he is talking about is the Colorado River on the western slopes. It’s a pact with Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Arizona and California.
Earlier in the campaign, mccoot stepped in it and said he supported breaking that pact and essentially letting Arizona and California have all of Colorado’s water that they want. Of course, that’s before he knew the election might hinge on Colorado.
“Linda, that fight has been going on for decades! In G.C., when it is rumored that there is water in the river, people actually go down to take a picture of the 2 foot wide stream that usually stops before leaving town.”
That’s why Colorado stepped up early to get dibs on the power produced by the proposed water sucking Holcomb coal fired plant.
They dont want to use THEIR water to generate their own power. This way? They get TWO bites at the water apple.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:28 am | Permalink
Jesus grmie, there’s been a video of mcsame SAYING he’s voted WITH bush more than ninety percent of the time. He also notes that’s more than most of his republican fellows.
McSAME said it himself!
Split hairs much?
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farmie which part of what I posted did you have a problem with? Agree vs votes – hummm when it comes to cooking I agree with you almost 100% of the time. I know you have to be a great cook. When it comes to political issues not so much.
Voting is much different with agreeing. Not sure why the left has such a problem with McCain and his stance against several Bush decisions.
Ya know, they do the same thing on the Voda Bridge of the Smoky out here. And STILL Hays thinks they own every goddam drop of water in it. Even when there IS no water.
Thank you governor “leadership” for your “leadership” in the rape of the Smoky.
You were bitchin’ because Steven said “votes with bush” because bush “doesnt vote” so therefore, mcsame could NOT have “voted with bush” ninety percent of the time.
And yet, those are the SAME words mccoot used to pat himself on the back. Before, ya know, he figured out how toxic his association with shrub would be.
That’s the hair you were trying to split.
Do you also agree that law hinges on the meaning of the word “is”?
Sorry Anti. The water indeed does not come from the river, but from the alluvium and the aquifer. Agreed though that’s why Colorado is so anxious for the Holcomb coal fired plant to be built. They get almost all the benefit. Kansas gets almost all the costs.
Sorry you don’t like the sources I’ve found. The Clinton’s didnt put their stuff on the internet back in 1994. (algore hadn’t invented it yet I guess.)
And I’m not about to pay money to CNN or the Wall Street Journal to search their archives that far back.
But don’t worry, when it comes up during Obama’s first term I’ll be sure to remind you.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink
Sorry Anti. The water indeed does not come from the river, but from the alluvium and the aquifer. Agreed though that’s why Colorado is so anxious for the Holcomb coal fired plant to be built. They get almost all the benefit. Kansas gets almost all the costs.
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Aquifer yes, Alluvial no so much. The alluvial water around there is pretty contaminated with mineral and nitrate/phosphorus particles- in other word it tends to clog sh*t up. Most good wells in that area(sand hills) have been extended to +300′ in depth, far below the alluvial water. Sadly they have been drilling deeper and deeper every year.
Anyway, CO has screwed SW KS for years and people are pissed. You and I both know the meaning of “dry” and the problems associated with ‘it’s my water, no it’s mine’.
McCain was asked several questions on Thursday about the shopping spree — and he answered each one more or less the same way: Palin needed clothes and they’ll be donated to charity.
“She needed clothes at the time. They’ll be donated at end of this campaign. They’ll be donated to charity,” McCain told reporters on his campaign bus between Florida rallies.
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Perhaps it would have worked out better if they had let her campaign naked.
…McCain plans in the closing days to focus on taxes and spending, national security, and what one adviser called “the perils of an Obama presidency with no checks and balances.”
The campaign will point to congressional Democrats’ claims about the agenda they plan in the new Congress, Obama’s “spread the wealth” remark to “Joe the Plumber” and Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s comment that his running mate would be tested internationally early in his presidency.
“We will focus like a laser on those messages in the closing days,” said the McCain adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk about strategy. …”
Here’s why the Palin/McCain “laser” strategy will fail:
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“The Washington Post-ABC News tracking poll has been holding steady this week, showing Obama’s advantage at around 10 points. Gallup has had it between five and eight points, depending on its model for determining the most likely voters. The Pew Research Center put it at 14 points. The NBC-Wall Street Journal poll showed a 10-point lead for Obama earlier this week.
Peter Hart, who helps conduct the NBC survey, said that “what has been a tight and competitive race for six months has suddenly and dramatically opened up in Barack Obama’s favor.”
Hart concluded that after months of doubts, voters “have reached a comfort level with Barack Obama.” In contrast, he said, McCain faces significant doubts “that he matches what Americans are looking for in terms of change or hope and optimism for the future.”
If it’s true that voters have reached a comfort level with Obama, then further efforts to paint Obama as an American force for evil will backfire, much as did Democrat efforts to portray another leader Americans became comfortable with, Reagan, as evil. This strategy is internally inconsistent.
Like I said, it will be like firing their laser at their own image in a mirror…
The student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, initially said a black man robbed her at knifepoint near a bank Wednesday night and then cut her cheek after seeing a McCain sticker on her car.
Todd, who is white, now says she was knocked unconscious and doesn’t remember being cut in the face. She now says she only discovered the wound later.
No arrests have been made.
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Not even for filing a false police report? I’ll bet the RNC lawyers are busy busy busy.
Strawberry’s has a two pound pork steak they’re famous for. It’s pretty intimidating when they bring it out. When it’s gone, you get that feeling you got when you heard the Duke died.
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink
Oh, and btw, dumbass,
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
It appears that she’s now (wisely) backing away from her initial claim. (you can check out a photo taken within hours of the alleged crime: the woman is sporting two shiners, neither of which is fresh) (which tells me she has bigger problems in her life than whatever happened in PA)
When Barry Soetro aka Barack Obama lived in Indonesia, Indonesia did not allow Dual Citizenship or Dual Nationality; thus Obama is not a U.S. Citizen, he is Indonesian. Neither Obama’s place of birth or the nationality of his American parent are relevant, te Indonesian Law takes precedence under the Master Nationality Rule of Article 4 of the Hague Convention of 1930. The United States accepts th existence of Dual Nationality only if the other country does. Hague Conventions are applied by the United States and this has been in effect since before 1930.
Obama has not taken the certification of citizenship oath when he reached the age of majority. Obama is not a U.S. citizen.
Hell Anti, Hays didnt HAVE to build a pipeline to Cedar Bluff. Governor “leadership” and her little dogs joe harkins and ken grotewhiel let them have the water in Cedar Bluff, AND let them run it down the Smoky so everyone could put a straw into it and irrigate along the way to Hays.
Then they measure the water released not at Cedar Bluff, but at RUSSELL, about fifty miles away.
Thanks again governor “leadership”
Controversy? There was nearly blood shed.
And now Hays is exercising eminent domain to get water from well’s they’ve been leasing from landowners along the Smoky.
Hays doesnt want to pay for the water, or obtain water rights to it, AND they are stealing the land that they pump it on. They are using Russell’s water rights, not their own. That’s why they dont measure the water leaving Cedar Bluff, but instead, measure it at Russell.
nifty little piece of criminal work, no? Supported and approved by governor leadership.
And she had to fire the Director of the Water Office, Clark Duffy, in order to get it done.
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink Barack Obama is not a U.S. Citizen.
When Barry Soetro aka Barack Obama lived in Indonesia, Indonesia did not allow Dual Citizenship or Dual Nationality; thus Obama is not a U.S. Citizen, he is Indonesian. Neither Obama’s place of birth or the nationality of his American parent are relevant, te Indonesian Law takes precedence under the Master Nationality Rule of Article 4 of the Hague Convention of 1930. The United States accepts th existence of Dual Nationality only if the other country does. Hague Conventions are applied by the United States and this has been in effect since before 1930.
Obama has not taken the certification of citizenship oath when he reached the age of majority. Obama is not a U.S. citizen.
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This woman works for the College Republicans who are known for staging fake “outrages” like this one. Jack Abramoff was the President of the College Republicans. I think Karl Rove was too.
Not to toot my own horn, but I called it as a fake the minute I heard it.
Robbers don’t stick around to make political statements. That’s just idiotic.
PITTSBURGH — Pittsburgh police say a McCain campaign volunteer who reported being held down by a black man who then cut the letter “B” in her face has changed her story.
Police also say bank surveillance footage doesn’t show her at an ATM where she initially said she was attacked.
Police spokeswoman Diane Richard says investigators gave the 20-year-old woman a lie-detector test and are “looking at some inconsistencies” in her story.
A lot of LIPSTICK: Who was the highest paid individual in Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign during the first half of October as it headed down the homestretch?
It was Amy Strozzi, Gov. Sarah Palin’s traveling makeup artist!
If house.gov is not good enough for you then it’s pointless. You insist on being ignorant, I can’t change that.
There’s several news articles I found that reference it from 1993 but I’m not going to pay good money to show you something you’ve chosen to believe is not possible. Your loss.
“The student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, initially said a black man robbed her at knifepoint near a bank Wednesday night and then cut her cheek after seeing a McCain sticker on her car.”
Sorry Pedant. You are correct. The nitwit is FROM College Station, not that it happened there.
I’m glad all those babykilling abortionists you mentioned where shot dead. They reaped what they sowed. They murdered helpless children and a hero stopped them.
Which do you prefer, a pile of bricks or a pile of dead babies? Innocent unborn babies deserve to be protected just as born children deserve to be protected. You would have no problem protecting born children if they were about to be murdered.
SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life. http://www.armyofgod.com
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink
Looks like it’s going to be a Regular-free day from here on out.
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So where is the copy of the original vaulted certificate that has the registrar’s certification from 1961?
All I see is a spanking brand new form from an official who was retired from official duty when he certified that document.
I grew up in San Antonio. We had the best water in the world supplied by the Edward’s aquifer. Naturally purified by layers and layers of limestone. Bout all you had to do was strain it to get out the chunks of lime stones and salamanders.
Problem was, we would have a shortfall every summer during the dry months. We would have to ration. Everyone’s grass died because we couldn’t water. Yada yada yada. So the brainiacs decided to build Applewhite. Another aquifer near San Marcos. It would supply our lean months. During the good months we would sell the excess to Austin.
Broke ground, moved everything in… Then politics stepped in. At that point, it would have cost just as much to pull out or to complete the job (which would supply revenue mind you). The lovely politicians decided to kill the project.
Water problems everywhere. Idiot elected officials everywhere. Gotta love it.
First, you claimed up and down that the birth certificate that Obama’s people posted to the web was “a fake because it wasn’t notarized with a raised seal.”
It turns out that in thirty seconds one can find photographic proof that the birth certificate copy was notarized and did have a raised seal.”
You have given no explanation or apology of your former LIE.
Having been caught cold in one lie, you now attempt to shift the grounds of your argument claiming that only some mythical “vault copy” is legally valid.
The Obama campaign got what the State of Hawaii sent them and what the State of Hawaii considers legal and what the State of Hawaii has verified as legal.
Now let me ask you a question as intelligent as the ones you’re asking me:
Why don’t you sue Hawaii for not sending out this all-important “vault copy,” Regular? Why?
Whatever the “vault copy” is, the State of Hawaii has made it clear that it doesn’t matter.
And you know it.
From now on, if I have to refer to you, it will be by the well-earned name, “ReguLIAR.”
A comment downthread in avtolle’s 12:12pm link:
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“Anyhoo, real attack, fake attack, I don’t know.
But the more I learn about Obama and his mentors and associations, Frank Marshall Davis, Edward Said, Rasheed Khalili, Bernadine Dohrn, and William Ayers, the more I suspect he is a “Manchurian Candidate”, a man who will do by guile what the Weather Underground couldn’t do with bombs, destroy America as a democracy with a capitalist economic system.”
“Exactly.”
“Or what if the woman is actually a Republican mole, pretending to be a democratic mole who would masquerade as a McCain campaign worker with the explicit intention of creating a hoax?
That way, when she is “exposed” as a Democratic mole it would actually discredit the Dems! Well…as long as they don’t find out she is actually a Republican mole…
Well played, RNC. Well played.”
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If you’re worried about the spelling you ain’t talkin’ coon-ass.
I wasted a morning the other day watching Justin Wilson clips on YouTube.
I spent a week with him back when I was in the ad biz. He took us out to all his favorite mom & pop places in the bayou and Louisiana countryside. A standard-issue Pepsi-Cola sign out front, a double-wide trailer for a dining room, and Gumbo and Po’ Boys that made you weep.
Heheeheheheh Monkeyhawk. I’m way jealous. Those sound like a place I know in Breaux Bridge, with the best soft shell crabs in the world.
I’m homesick AND jealous!
A guy in Breaux Bridge who had been stationed in Wichita in the Air Force said to me “kansas, huh? Where the land is flat, the food is flat and the people are flat”.
Bloch’s first major actions as head of the office were to choose as deputy a lawyer who had publicly taken a position against the “homosexual agenda”, and to hire young lawyers from Ave Maria School of Law, the Catholic school founded by Domino’s Pizza billionaire Tom Monaghan.[3] In February 2004, Bloch ordered all mention of sexual orientation workplace nondiscrimination be removed from OSC’s website and printed materials. Bloch stated his office lacked the authority to ban discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. [4]
Bloch’s critics argued that gay employees were protected by the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, which prohibits discrimination against federal employees “on the basis of conduct which does not adversely affect the performance of the employee.” Since its enactment, all five prior presidential administrations (Ford, Carter, Reagan, H. W. Bush, and Clinton) had interpreted this law to protect homosexual employees. [5]
After complaints from Congress, [6] the Bush Administration released a statement saying homosexual employees were still protected in April 2004. [7] Bloch issued a statement that after conducting a legal analysis: “It is the policy of this administration that discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of sexual orientation is prohibited.” [8]
And did I mention, he’s a graduate of the KU school of law?
yep. He’s a kansas con republican alright. Bigoted AND corrupt.
But Mr. Bloch, a 50-year old lawyer and father of seven who previously served as deputy director of the Justice Department’s Task Force for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, began to draw scrutiny from the start of his OSC tenure.
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Aha! He was a socialist Community Organizer!
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink
Regular–
You are a despicable liar.
First, you claimed up and down that the birth certificate that Obama’s people posted to the web was “a fake because it wasn’t notarized with a raised seal.”
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Oh btw,
“Pittsburgh police say a McCain campaign volunteer who reported being held down by a black man who then cut the letter “B” in her face has changed her story.”
TOLD YA!
That young woman needs to go to jail.
But, maybe lean on her a little first.
Is this just her? Or, were there more people in on this?
What did John McCain know and when did he know it?
But I do think it cold be more involved than just this young woman. She should not have to take the fall alone if there are accomplices.
Let’s not minimize this. She made this incendiary claim at an explosive time in the political season. AND she gave it a racial twist. This is the sort of thing that can cause riots and people getting hurt.
A good thing RESPONSIBLE media and bloggers did not run with this before they knew what it was.
McCain Worker ‘Confesses’ She Made Up Attack Story
Campaign volunteer Ashley Todd, 20, reportedly admits she lied when she claimed a ‘black man’ beat her and carved a ‘B’ in her face because she was McCain backer
-FOX NEWS
“DavidB
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
McCain Worker ‘Confesses’ She Made Up Attack Story
Campaign volunteer Ashley Todd, 20, reportedly admits she lied when she claimed a ‘black man’ beat her and carved a ‘B’ in her face because she was McCain backer
-FOX NEWS
Now.. let’s review yeterdays posts, shall we?”
She should be jailed for filing a false report. Then SUED!
Isn’t it a shame when republicans have to resort to lies? And this was a good one! Poor little white girl attacked by, GASP, a BLACK MAN! And the BLACK BEAST added insult to injury by suggesting she should vote for Obama! Oh, the outrage was palatable this morning by certian republican posters.
XXX
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:37 pm | Permalink
Isn’t it a shame when republicans have to resort to lies? And this was a good one! Poor little white girl attacked by, GASP, a BLACK MAN! And the BLACK BEAST added insult to injury by suggesting she should vote for Obama! Oh, the outrage was palatable this morning by certian republican posters.
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This only hurt McCain even more. And maybe his team is that stupid, but I’m doubting it. You’d think he would have given her a tiny budget for a better make-up job. It’s Halloween for chrissakes, there’s plenty of cheap make-up and effects out there.
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XXX
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:37 pm | Permalink
Isn’t it a shame when republicans have to resort to lies? And this was a good one! Poor little white girl attacked by, GASP, a BLACK MAN! And the BLACK BEAST added insult to injury by suggesting she should vote for Obama! Oh, the outrage was palatable this morning by certian republican posters.
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Isn’t it about time you get a new feed bag for your spouse?
The FIRST question I have is who took the picture that started all this?
Who was involved in putting it on the internet?
In the internet age, a lie can gain a lot of ground in only a few minutes.
What if the media had jumped on this like Drudge and Sean Hannity did?
“Boxlock” brought the story here shortly after Hannity started selling it. HIS post revealed boiling rage. I should go get it. Outlander quickly poured gas on the fire.
This could have gotten someone KILLED. That is why I say, yeah it’s just a blog. But you have to be responsible about what you post.
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XXX
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:44 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:38 pm | Permalink
Isn’t it about time you get a new feed bag for your spouse?
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At least I have a spouse.
Unlike you, who hasn’t had a woman you didn’t pay for in years.
Get a girlfriend, Reg.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Yeah, but back then, your spouse didn’t have change for a five, so it was a rip off.
In West Virginia’s Jackson County, there were some reports that voting machines were accidentally recording the wrong vote.
“I went in there and pushed the Democrat ticket, and it jumped to the Republican ticket for president of the United States,” said Calvin Thomas, an 81-year-old West Virginian.
The same thing happened to his daughter, Micki Clendenin, when she cast her ballot. In both cases, poll workers at the site had them touch the screen a few more times, and the voting machine changed their ballot to their candidate choice.
“We’re having problems with the poll machines,” a voter in Jacksonville, Florida, told the CNN Voter Hotline. “They’re not aligned correctly, so you’re not sure about which candidate you’re voting for
“Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..”
Indeed, given that Pennsylvania turns out to be the state where the McCain/Palin “campaign” has declared its intention to make its last stand. Can’t wait to see the backstory on this one.
Stick a fork in John McCain: he’s way done. Overdone, in fact.
Wow. I can remember when the CONs told good believable lies: Dukkais releases murder/rapists, Clinton killed Vince foster, Kerry shot himself in the arm, etc.
Now they’re reduced to staging ridiculous “outrages” that not even their supporters can swallow (except for the really dumb ones like Max & outlander, etc).
A bad lie is no sooner believed than the truth. Mark Twain
Sad to see what a bunch of bunglers the right-wing has become.
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:52 pm | Permalink
Wow. I can remember when the CONs told good believable lies: Dukkais releases murder/rapists, Clinton killed Vince foster, Kerry shot himself in the arm, etc.
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Naw, it was the exploding rice cooker that planted a grain of rice in Kerry’s butt that got him his third purple heart.
ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink
Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..
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It happened in PA, dumb ass.
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I KNOW that ANTI —- Read upthread, and it would look as if it happened in Texas…
But I know you have reading difficulties… so I will over look it this time….
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Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:55 pm | Permalink
ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink
Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..
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It happened in PA, dumb ass.
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I KNOW that ANTI —- Read upthread, and it would look as if it happened in Texas…
But I know you have reading difficulties… so I will over look it this time….
Still looks like it didnt happen at all!!
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Quick Chas, what state is Pennsylvania in?
Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:58 pm | Permalink
Now, now CapN…. Dont say any more about Regular’s residence… He might file another — Ahem — lawsuit…
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The crapn is too scared to stop by, too many black people in my neighborhood.
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Nathaniel
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
Regular,
I am on your side in most things here. If you want to go after XXX, fine.
There really is no reason to involve his wife.
You should apologize and refrain from making such statements about family members.
I know that others here do not treat you fairly, but you don’t need to go after their family to make a point. You do quite well otherwise.
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He can handle it.
He’s made so many comments about me personally, he has no room to feel bothered.
He’s knows I was jerking his chain. When he learns to talk to me civilly, I’ll return the favor.
First they get subsidies to grow corn, produce ethanol, market ethanol, and when even the subsidies cant make the industry work?
They get ready for a bailout.
Screw ‘em. Skull screw ‘em.
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KFG, I worked on a few of the plants in Kansas…All the contractors and investors said the same thing, Fast Money…They all new that ethanol was a stupid idea, but the green morons and lawmakers were pushing so hard for it. Get in, get your money, get out!
A 20-year-old John McCain campaign volunteer has admitted to lying about being mugged and attacked by a man who carved a “B” into her cheek after seeing a McCain bumper sticker on her car, Pittsburgh police announced Friday…
Todd, from College Station, Texas, told police that on Wednesday night at 9 p.m….
Say, didn’t I see something online the other day about an elderly east Wichita woman living around Oliver and Douglas being arrested on a vice charge? Something about running a one whore two dollar whorehouse? I believe the story I read went something like “pulling trains,” “homeless men,” and “her tenant brother.” Any of yall recall that?!?
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Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:09 pm | Permalink
One look at you, XXX, and I’m betting 50 bucks, Regular won’t come to the door . . . hehehe.
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I’m pretty sure I’ve seen him at a restaurant or was that the feed store?
They were on the cattle scale prior to feeding time.
The lying McCainiac was from Texas but was brought to Pittsburgh by the McCain campaign. That is where she perpetrated her hoax that the right-wing has trumpeted so loudly.
Pedant
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:21 pm | Permalink
Darn memory. Let’s see, two dollar whore, brother — named as his sister’s pimp according to the story — was a US Air Force veteran, on disability.
Anybody else recall reading about a whorehouse in E Wichita?
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Actually, there are several ‘crack’ house not too far from here. Well, they are ‘drop zones.’
The police know about them and the activities. I guess it’s easier to pick them up once they leave the house.
THIS is what I am talking about dimwit >>>>
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YOU called me a dumb ass because I said the “story” first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post/Gazette…. YOU flamed on what I made as a comment… since REGULIAR had made a big deal out of something in TEXAS… ya know, Aggies???
I reponded to YOU with THIS >>>>
“I KNOW that ANTI —- Read upthread, and it would look as if it happened in Texas…
But I know you have reading difficulties… so I will over look it this time….
Still looks like it didnt happen at all!!”
NOW, it is posted that indeed it WAS a hoax…. Do try to keep up with your own nonsense… TROLL!!
I’ve been looking for a ‘guide gun’. It looks like ammo for .44mag and .500 is priced about the same. I think I would flinch to much with .500 in a revolver, that is why I asked. I would think .500 would make a good carbine for close quarter big game.
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Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:28 pm | Permalink
I’ve been looking for a ‘guide gun’. It looks like ammo for .44mag and .500 is priced about the same. I think I would flinch to much with .500 in a revolver, that is why I asked. I would think .500 would make a good carbine for close quarter big game.
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You’re welcome to try it out if you have a place to shoot. You have to fire several times till you get past that “flinch” thing.
Capn – I have met Nathan’s dad and can tell you that he is a good man. Esoecially when we get past the ‘labels’ and look at things away from here on the blog.
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Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:33 pm | Permalink
XXX is too modest to say it, but his significant other is a very lovely person (I hope he doesn’t mind me talking out of turn).
I don’t care how many years somebody spends in the military, that kind of ReguLIAR talk is just nasty and wholly unwarranted flaming.
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Kind of like the talk done here about Sarah Palin?
Hmmm?
Hypocrites…
I’m sure Todd Palin would like to invite you all out on a remote Alaska hunting trip to a spot frequented by grizzlies.
‘Was Drudge just trying to prove our point?‘ http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200810240013
“About how his influence has cratered during his campaign cycle? And how, since the Wall Street meltdown began six weeks ago, his brand of shallow, partisan, GOP gotcha attacks have been completely ineffective? ”
What’s next, Government seizing IRA’s, Pensions, and all private savings? Is your house next on their TAKE list?
Would Obama, Dems Kill 401(k) Plans?
October 23, 2008 10:47 AM ET | James Pethokoukis | Permanent Link | Print
I hate to use the “S” word, but the American government would never do something as, well, socialist as seize private pension funds, right? This is exactly what cash-strapped Argentina just did in the name of protecting workers’ retirement accounts (Efharisto, Fausta’s Blog). Now, even Uncle Sam isn’t that stupid, but some Democrats might try something almost as loopy: kill 401(k) plans.
House Democrats recently invited Teresa Ghilarducci, a professor at the New School of Social Research, to testify before a subcommittee on her idea to eliminate the preferential tax treatment of the popular retirement plans. In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created “guaranteed retirement accounts” for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return.
BlueJay – I find it revealing how the entire right-wing talk/blog machine was primed and ready for the hoax. Doesn’t seem they are so quick or persistent to retract their hoax.
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Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
“That’s the first step to malice aforethought in criminal proceedings.”
Go hide behind someone’s skirt there regular.
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Not hiding…
If XXX shows up, I’ll advise him of two things. If he threatens me, first he’ll spend the next year in a hospital; secondly – He’ll spend the next five years in prison (minimum.)
Max – that is old news. It has already been shown that this was only a brainstorming session where they invited all sorts of people to give their ideas with no endorsement.
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bth
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:44 pm | Permalink
Gee regular – with all of your flaming and malicious defamation you sure are quick to whine when the favor is returned.
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You appear to be confused about the English language there.
If XXX shows up, I’ll advise him of two things. If he threatens me, first he’ll spend the next year in a hospital; secondly – He’ll spend the next five years in prison (minimum.)
It’s simple, it really is.
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Unless XXX is a gang member…..
Nola let’s ‘em skate……
After Government takes our assets, Government will decide:
1)When or If we retire.
2)How much (if any) of our own money we are allowed to receive each month. A means test will be used to determine how much we get. Some will get MORE then they paid in. Others will get LESS then they paid it. ALL WILL BE EQUALIZED.
3)After we die, the Government will keep whatever is left, if any is left. Your spouse and kids are SOL.
biased1
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:46 pm | Permalink
MAX-
Not hiding…
If XXX shows up, I’ll advise him of two things. If he threatens me, first he’ll spend the next year in a hospital; secondly – He’ll spend the next five years in prison (minimum.)
It’s simple, it really is.
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Unless XXX is a gang member…..
Nola let’s ‘em skate…
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No gang members here, just some druggies and users.
There were some Tre Five Sevens and Crips, but I think they live above 17th street or did.
“MaxGrobnik
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:49 pm | Permalink
After Government takes our assets, Government will decide:
1)When or If we retire.
2)How much (if any) of our own money we are allowed to receive each month. A means test will be used to determine how much we get. Some will get MORE then they paid in. Others will get LESS then they paid it. ALL WILL BE EQUALIZED.
3)After we die, the Government will keep whatever is left, if any is left. Your spouse and kids are SOL.”
Obese Teddy Kennedy is first up in Obama’s first week with Universal Health Care. Also kiss goodbye to your 401k plan as it goes into the social security accounts, higher taxes, slave repriations payments to blacks, downsizing the military, and pulling out of Iraq, just for starters. About the Swimmer here. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/24/kennedy-secretly-crafts-health-care-plan/
“Bryant said somebody charged with making a false report would typically be cited and sent a summons. But because police have concerns about Todd’s mental health, they are consulting with the Allegheny County District Attorney. She remained in custody and was awaiting arraignment.
Todd worked in New York for the College Republican National Committee before moving two weeks ago to Pennsylvania, where her duties included recruiting college students, the committee’s executive director, Ethan Eilon, has said.”
So – she is a nutcase and the McCain campaign moves her around so they can take full advantage of her. Cute!
House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks
Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.
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October 16, 2008
House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks
Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.
House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.
A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered. She testified last week before Miller’s Education and Labor Committee on her proposal.
At that hearing, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, Peter Orszag, testified that some $2 trillion in retirement savings has been lost over the past 15 months.
Under Ghilarducci’s plan, all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration. The money in turn would be invested in special government bonds that would pay 3 percent a year, adjusted for inflation.
The current system of providing tax breaks on 401(k) contributions and earnings would be eliminated.
“I want to stop the federal subsidy of 401(k)s,” Ghilarducci said in an interview. “401(k)s can continue to exist, but they won’t have the benefit of the subsidy of the tax break.”
BlueJay – Hannity knows that if he put it on TV that Colmes would then be trumpeting it when his hoax was discovered. On his radio show he has no such counter-point.
I want to say a good word here for SOME, that is SOME of the con bloggers.
I know there had to be a few about when this hoax story was first breaking. And I KNOW it had to be damned tempting to get in on it. For whatever reason you didn’t, good on you.
OUCH! MSNBC just called the hoaxer a racist and a fraud.
Will Mccain call the girl and retract his best wishes, and speedy recovery?
Does Boxlock have the fortitude to issue an apology to all the dems he tried to slander?
Will Boxlock be so quick to fall for his party’s next hoax? You Betcha.
When the FDIC seized mortgage lender IndyMac it was one of the biggest bank failures ever. Now the Calif.-based outfit might just help lead us out of the housing mess.
NEW YORK (Money) — The battered economy is in desperate need of a housing fix, and one failed bank just may have the answer.
Yesterday FDIC Chairwoman Sheila Bair told the Senate Banking Committee about the success her agency has had in helping struggling borrowers at IndyMac, which the FDIC took over this summer.
Bair, the nation’s leading bank regulator, thinks this foreclosure prevention program can work for other banks.
“Our hope is that the program we announced at IndyMac Federal will serve as a catalyst to promote more loan modifications for troubled borrowers across the country,” she told the committee.
She’s not alone. While individual lenders, loan servicers and non-profit foreclosure prevention outfits have been chipping away at the staggering housing crisis on a case by case basis, IndyMac, under the FDIC’s leadership, became the first bank to establish a set protocol to modify home loans.
Speeding the process
“I think this is an appropriate way to go, and I would hope that more institutions would take it up,” said Michael Barr, professor of law at University of Michigan and a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. “We need a systematic way to do this, we can’t continue to do this on a one-by-one basis.”
Chris Kukla, senior council for government affairs at the Center for Responsible Lending, points out that this is precisely how Congress approached the recent Wall Street bailout.
“We aren’t sitting down on an individual basis and figuring out who needs what,” he said. “The government is giving a piece to everyone because there is a recognition that we need to stabilize the financial markets. Well, we need to stabilize the housing market too.”
IndyMac services more than 60,000 loans that are either more than 60 days past due, in bankruptcy, in foreclosure or are otherwise not currently being paid. About two-thirds of those customers are eligible for the program, according to Bair, and more than 3,500 IndyMac borrowers have had their loans modified to affordable levels so far. Borrower payments have been cut on average by $380, she said.
Currently most lenders assess each loan on a case-by-case basis, which takes a tremendous amount of time and resources, and can hold up the process for months. Establishing set rules that a lender can apply to thousands of borrowers will speed the process, and help right the housing market more quickly
Under IndyMac’s program, the lender modifies a loan so that the borrower’s new mortgage payment, including insurance and taxes, eats up no more than 38% of their pre-tax income. This percentage, known as a debt to income ratio, topped 50% for some loans during the boom.
To achieve this lower payment, IndyMac can lower the interest rate, extend the life of the loan to, say, 30 or 40 years, defer some principal to the final years of the loan, or a use a combination of these strategies.
IndyMac is also trying to simplify the process for borrowers. It is overnighting loan forms to eligible customers with a signature required upon receipt. “It doesn’t show up with your regular mail, coupons and junk mail, because the key is getting the consumer to open it,” said FDIC spokesman David Barr.
The papers clearly spell out a borrower’s new loan terms, including the interest rate and monthly payments over the life of the loan. The borrower simply signs and returns the documents with the first lower monthly payment.
B of A follows suit
Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500) launched a similarly systematic program earlier in October. That program, scheduled to start in December, came as part of a settlement with state attorney general offices that sued Countrywide, which B of A recently acquired, for predatory lending practices. It’s expected to help 400,000 troubled borrowers and is actually slightly more aggressive than IndyMac’s plan.
B of A will use a 34% debt-to-income ratio to calculate the affordable monthly payment for its customers, and may also write down the principal balance of some negative amortizing loans. IndyMac will not forgive debt, but instead will add principal to the final years of a loan if necessary.
Additionally, IndyMac’s program is now being applied to many delinquent loans owned by Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500), Fannie Mae (FNM, Fortune 500) and other investors, Bair said in her testimony Thursday.
Not everyone is convinced that Bair’s brainchild should be the industry-wide template.
Thomas Lawler, a housing economist in Leesburg, Virginia, contends that lenders need to look at a borrower’s other assets in addition to their debt to income ratio before working out a loan. “Otherwise, they will include people who shouldn’t really qualify, and might exclude people who do,” he said. “That is one reason why mortgage lenders don’t particularly like to have a very simple systematic streamlined modification, because it doesn’t work.”
For example, a borrower with substantial additional assets and no other debt may have taken out a big mortgage that eats up 45% of his income. There is a risk that the program will aid this borrower, and not someone with a smaller mortgage and no other assets who also has student and car loans.
But the Center for Responsible Lending’s Chris Kukla argues that the crisis is too severe to worry about helping people who don’t deserve aid.
Indeed, earlier this month The State Foreclosure Prevention Working Group, a group of state attorneys general and banking regulators, sent a letter to nearly 20 of the largest servicers telling them that they were expected to implement a systematic approach to modify loans similar to IndyMac and Bank of America.
“We aren’t getting push back yet, but we haven’t gotten any firm commitments yet either,” said Iowa Attorney General and task-force chair Tom Miller. “But there is a willingness to talk.”
“This is the best idea out there to stop the bleeding in subprime lending,” Miller said. “We think it is the best thing we can do at this point.”
cosmos_originally
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:09 pm | Permalink
biased1,
Who is the governor of Pittsburgh? And name the capital city of Pittsburgh
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Rosnen..something, kid about 20 (demorat)..
and…
uh..
Three Rivers?
How did she end up in Pittsburgh from New York from Texas? Are there any laws about transporting someone across state lines to participate in a criminal enterprise?
What if there HAD been violence because of the hoax? Would the hoaxer or any accomplices face further charges? Since the hoax went viral on the internet, would state lines figure in further charges?
I guess what I am trying to figure here is how big a fire someone can light vs. what charges they would face.
Who blacked her eyes, a co-conspirator, or just a pissed off campaign mgr. because she wasn’t bringing in enough fraudulent registrations? There’ more to the story than meets the eye.
CraponAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink
Correct, BTH.
Just think if only the CONs had succeeding in “piratizing” Social Security two years ago.
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“piratizing” is what has been going on with Social Security since its inception….
Phatmom
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:25 pm | Permalink
Who blacked her eyes?
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Probably a pi$$ed off boyfriend that told her twice not to go……
‘Tweets Give Race-Baiting Hoaxster a ‘B’ for Effort‘ http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/college-republi.html
“On Friday, commenters started using the tag to broadcast their disgust, causing the sarcastic tweets to be automatically displayed on the Republican site.
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“Hmm, it was an okay Obama frame-job, just a few inconsistencies snagged you,” wrote another tweeter. “Overall I’d give you a ‘B’.” “
I’m wondering about the blackened eyes. Who was responsible for the same? There are many questions remaining, and likely few answers.
BlueJay, I’m of the thought that had there been violence from the hoax, those committing the violence would be responsible for that criminally; I don’t see where the young woman would have any culpability for that in a criminal way.
On the picture that was posted on the internet; I thought that picture was from the press or released by the police in Pittsburgh. I don’t think we need to be looking for a conspiracy in this case; rather than that, we should be hoping that the young woman receives any psychological help she might need.
bth, if there was an intent on her part to incite a riot or whatever, yes; if this was an ill-conceived ploy for attention designed to cast doubt on the Obama/Biden campaign, no.
BlueJay, she’s facing at most right now a misdemeanor charge for filing a false police report. Likely a fine and perhaps probation.
What I wonder is whether the young woman was in Pittsburgh (and not attending classes) without the knowledge of her parents and was caught up in the incident that caused the black eyes, and she was looking for a “spectacular” way out of a predicament.
I think at worst she could be charged with filing a false police report, but since there’s questions as to her psych., I think she’ll get off with some court ordered treatment. Obama ought to be a nice guy and offer to pay for it if Mccain doesn’t.
BeeJay- Scary thing is, plenty of people did.
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Probably less than:
People that believe in the easter bunny.
People that believe in the tooth fairy.
People that believe in santa.
People that believe in UFOs
People that believe a republican is going to cut your taxes.
People that believe that a demorat is going to cut your taxes.
“Todd worked in New York for the College Republican National Committee before moving two weeks ago to Pennsylvania, where her duties included recruiting college students, the committee’s executive director, Ethan Eilon, has said”
While the writing is a bit convulated, I believe this means that she worked recruiting college students in New York, before moving two weeks ago to Pennsulvania, where she did not work for the
College Republican National Committee.
I have seen lots of these sentence structure. I even do them myself sometimes. Just my take on what was said. I could always be wrong.
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Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
No sign of XXX or Regular. Having a heart to heart chat?
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Naw, took a short nap. I knew he would show up. XXX lost his balls years ago when he turned Lib.
Date: October 24, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
Mayor, Council to attend
Wichita Mayor Carl Brewer and members of the Wichita City Council will participate in the grand opening and ribbon cutting for WaterWalk Place, a seven-story mixed use building located at 515 S. Main.
The event, open to the public from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m., commemorates the opening of the first mixed used building in downtown Wichita in two decades.
WaterWalk Place features 12,500 square feet of ground level office space, whose current occupants include WaterWalk, Inc., headquarters, the Wichita Convention and Visitors Bureau and the Wichita Sports Commission.
It also includes 16,000 square feet of retail space and 46 luxury condominium homes. A five-story parking garage is also incorporated into the development.
Three of the luxury condominiums will be open for public inspection. The grand opening ceremony and ribbon cutting will take place in the rooftop lounge.
The ribbon cutting will take place at 2 p.m. and will include comments by Mayor Brewer, WaterWalk co-owner and developer David Burk and WaterWalk, Inc., President Tom Johnson.
The entire WaterWalk project is a $123.8 million mixed-used development located on the eastern shore of the Arkansas River in downtown Wichita, bounded by waterman on the north, Kellogg Street to the south and Main Street to the east.
The master plan for the 25-acre site includes an “urban village” including about 250,000 square feet of retail space, 200,000 square feet of office space and residential housing.
13th Street to Close for One Week Friday Oct. 31 until Friday Nov. 7
Date: October 24, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
Road construction work will force a one-week closing of 13th Street between Santa Fe and Barwise beginning Friday, Oct. 31.
The affected area is just east of the new elevated central railroad corridor bridge. During the closure, Dondlinger & Sons Construction Company, Inc., will lower the at-grade crossing to match the new roadway and replace the pavement.
Re-opening is anticipated on Friday, Nov. 7. Traffic will be detoured to Murdock during the closure.
Traffic on 13th Street has been reduced to one lane in each direction at this location since September for removal and replacement on the north side of the street. When re-opened, 13th Street will continue to carry two lanes of traffic until January 2009, while work is done on the south side.
When completed, 13th Street will allow full-height truck clearance of 15 feet, six inches beneath the new railroad bridge. It will also provide four new lanes of concrete pavement, and sidewalks on each side.
This work is part of the City’s downtown Central Railroad Corridor Project that includes new railroad bridges at First, Second, Central, Murdock, and Thirteenth Streets, plus improvements at the Douglas Avenue Bridge.
Work on the Central Corridor began on April 18, 2005, to elevate railroad tracks onto new bridges, while maintaining vehicular traffic below. Final completion, expected in fall of 2009, will noticeably improve downtown traffic flow.
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink
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ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
No sign of XXX or Regular. Having a heart to heart chat?
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Naw, took a short nap. I knew he would show up. XXX lost his balls years ago when he turned Lib
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Knowing XXX’s abilities, and knowing your reputation, he really wouldn’t need balls to extend your nap time, but, hey, when you spit on superman’s cape . . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0QeWWUJPzk
You be the one climbs out of the car . . . dude:-)
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink
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Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
No sign of XXX or Regular. Having a heart to heart chat?
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Naw, (1) took a short nap. I knew he (2) would show up. XXX lost his balls years ago when he turned Lib.
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yeah, here’s a translation: #2 is true (talk about Freudian), and #1 ain’t, he was scurrying around his sister’s basement checking all the deadbolts locks.
After he had ‘em all bolted, he felt safe enough to come back here and do his usual two things.
One, brag.
Two, post some city news crap out of guilt.
This is the default Regular pattern: keyboard overloads a$$, retreat, brag, appear all innocent and contrite.
I have seen lots of these sentence structure. I even do them myself sometimes. Just my take on what was said. I could always be wrong.
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A less convoluted version. (emphasis added)
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iidrMKZwVNDDlEtkssY6t1xxhg9QD9411DE01
Ethan Eilon, executive director of the College Republican National Committee, told reporters that Todd worked in New York for several months before moving to Pennsylvania two weeks ago to continue working for the group.
Eilon declined to comment on the investigation Friday or to help The Associated Press contact Todd. In a follow-up e-mail, Eilon said, “We think this girl has endured enough and that this is going to be something for her and her family to work through.”
“Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..”
Right!
And on the TV channels in Pittsburgh, and from there to Drudge, and on to several others.
Not one mention was made they were questioning her story early on.
If they treat her equitably nothing much will happen…I mean whatever happened to the girl that got the entire Duke men’s lacrosse season canceled, their school year ended by being thrown out, and criminal charges brought against several of them which carried on for months. Chirp, chirp…..
At least this girl didn’t name anybody that could could be brought up on charges like the Duke case.
And how much questioning of the Duke girl took place by those going after the players heads.
This girl lied, I tend to believe most folks, except for several around here who have proven to be more interested in tearing down than building up, and willing to lie and exaggerate about it if they think it necessary.
Yes, I was wrong in becoming furious over the thought of it, but the news organizations certainly started and fed that.
And quite frankly with all the ACORN crap, and the shooting of a republican party manager’s home it was easy to believe.
Boxlock, it didn’t become known, as near as I am able to ascertain, that there were doubts about the young woman’s statement until today; or at least public knowledge of the authorities’ doubts.
I don’t know when the photo hit the internet, but when I first saw it, the backward “B” was enough to cause me to doubt the story as it had been reported.
REAL AMERICANS THINK: Data from the latest Pew Research poll shows that only 25 percent of the public agrees with the centerpiece of the conservative tax program: making all of the Bush tax cuts permanent. In contrast, 62 percent want to either repeal tax cuts for the wealthy while keeping the rest of the cuts (37 percent) or repeal all of the tax cuts (25 percent).
The same poll shows that the public not only doesn’t want to keep all the Bush tax cuts; it is also sympathetic to the idea that tax increases may be necessary to meet vital national priorities such as reforming health care.
The public agrees by 58 percent to 35 percent that the government should guarantee “health insurance for all citizens even if it means raising taxes.”
No, there is nothing wrong in becoming angry on hearing the story. That was the intention.
Rumors, that is rumors are (and this was just reported on MSNBC) that someone in the McCain communications office was flogging the story to the media. If that is true, you were SUPPOSED to get mad.
But you didn’t have to ignore the evidence in front of your own eyes. You didn’t have to try for yourself and others to twist the evidence to fit the story.
“…the news organizations certainly started and fed that.”
As did you. And I hope you know it and think twice next time. And not just you.
Both sides have been guilty in this sort of thing. THIS particular incident, though, had so much destructive potential. Strings of race hatred, political division, and other baser instincts were plucked. SHAME on Drudge and Hannity and those who ran with it before they knew the facts. Thank goodness the rest of the media had cooler heads.
It’s a reminder what a gift and responsibility the internet is. Good news or bad can travel the world over in seconds with no guarantee the accuraccy other than the best stewardship of the users. I for one intend to remember that.
avtolle,
I immediately thought about the mirror image as being questionable, but as you said NO ONE seemed to question, and I put faith in the integrity of the local news organizations.
Also, if an attacker had taken her down, she lying on her back with him forward of her head, not sitting on her body, and holding her head in position, a right handed person, (75% to 90+% chance) would be in position to form what is to them a correct ‘B’ on the right cheek, just as it was. But looking straight on at her standing would be a mirror image.
She might have had hopes of recognition and grandeur for herself, at 20 years I question if she was out to hurt anyone, instead just make herself important.
“I question if she was out to hurt anyone, instead just make herself important.”
BlueJay, if only you could say the same for yourself.
You too lack importance, and what’s worse…want to hurt people by being a parasite on them.
Yours is a sad situation as well, yet you like to wallow in it.
You and I heard the story about the same time Box.
Did you hear the story on Hannity, as I did? Or was the net your source?
Hannity wins no points here. He did not mention the story at all today and get this.
Oh this IS cute. On his website? There is no news mention of the fact it was a hoax. There is no apology. There IS a poll posted at 3:50 today, “What phony story have you believed this week?”
The hoax is included with four other stories.
Where: The Gazebo in Riverside Park, at Murdock and West River Blvd. in Wichita
When: 2:30 p.m.
Immediately following the rally, take advantage of the free bus rides to early voting locations in Wichita!
Join Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, former Congressman Dan Glickman, U.S. Senate candidate Jim Slattery and U.S. House candidate Donald Betts as we “Barack the Early Vote” in Wichita on Saturday!
Dedicated to John Sydney McCain and the Bush 26%’ers:
He’s a real nowhere Man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
Doesn’t have a point of view,
Knows not where he’s going to,
Isn’t he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere Man, please listen,
You don’t know what you’re missin’,
Nowhere Man, the world is at your command.
(lead guitar)
He’s as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere Man can you see me at all?
Nowhere Man, don’t worry,
Take your time, don’t hurry,
Leave it all ’till somebody else
lends you a hand.
Doesn’t have a point of view,
Knows not where he’s going to,
Isn’t he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere man please listen,
you don’t know what your missin’
Nowhere Man, the world is at your command
He’s a real Nowhere Man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
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JMWalker
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:47 pm | Permalink
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink
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ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
No sign of XXX or Regular. Having a heart to heart chat?
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Naw, took a short nap. I knew he would show up. XXX lost his balls years ago when he turned Lib
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Knowing XXX’s abilities, and knowing your reputation, he really wouldn’t need balls to extend your nap time, but, hey, when you spit on superman’s cape . . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0QeWWUJPzk
You be the one climbs out of the car . . . dude:-)
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Naw. XXX would be the one clutching at his throat gasping for air and limping on the busted knee I give him.
“Did you hear the story on Hannity, as I did? Or was the net your source?”
No BlueJay, I did not hear or pick it up on Hannity, the net, actually a Pittsburgh TV station.
I saw it on Drudge before they even had a story, only saying “Developing” and no link. Since they said Pittsburgh I Google’d the story line and ‘Pittsburgh’ and it immediately came up on the website of a local TV channel news section.
They acted as if it was a “done deal’.
As I said up thread, I immediately saw the mirrored ‘B’, but from the story it said she was thrown to the ground and attacked with a knife there. Again, if an attacker is above her, her lying on her back and him above and on her head end, he would be in a position to to make a ‘B’ that would appear as a mirror image looking straight on.
There is a lot of anger about this election, to bad it is driving us apart.
Example:
Republican HQ Manager’s Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
Enjoy.. . John McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director told reporters in the state an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established — and even told reporters outright that the “B” carved into the victim’s cheek stood for “Barack,” according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions.
John Verrilli, the news director for KDKA in Pittsburgh, told TPM Election Central that McCain’s Pennsylvania campaign communications director gave one of his reporters a detailed version of the attack that included a claim that the alleged attacker said, “You’re with the McCain campaign? I’m going to teach you a lesson.”
The TV Clip from KDKA, Ch. 2, Pittsburgh had the report posted last night. The report was quite clear that the story was under full investigation, and that investigators were unclear about much of what was alleged to have happened —-
The printed article DID mention thatt there were some doubts… but that the investigation would be pursued further…
kfg, you mentioned this reminded you of Tawana Brawley. I think a better analogous case happened a couple of years ago. Involved a KU religion professor who was also involved with the atheist students group. He had been catching flak for sending emails around ridiculing religion and the religious. He then made up a story about getting hit by a couple of people on a lonely country road. Likely gave himself a couople of black eyes. Just googled. Paul Mirecki was his name.
It happens and I ‘m sure it is symptomatic of some mental quinky dink.
“It’s never easy to let him back in, either, since you know you’ll get to replay this fun over and over and over…”
That cycling dynamic kind of reminds one of what battering husbands do. That and the fact that his behavior is always the fault of others is also like wife-beater-think.
But as a precautionary note, I don’t think anyone who posts here is how they are in R.L. Well, few at least – which would allow for the Maxes of this world.
“Likely gave himself a couople of black eyes. Just googled. Paul Mirecki was his name.”
outlander,
If I recall correctly, people thought it was a faked attack. But I did not think that was ever established as fact. I could be wrong, though. He was one pretty immature guy as I remember.
John McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director.. Penn. is the state that Murtha indicated had lots of residual racism. So McCain’s man was deliberately trying to feed this on McCain’s behalf….
John McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director.. Penn. is the state that Murtha indicated had lots of residual racism. So McCain’s man was deliberately trying to feed this on McCain’s behalf….
“BlueJay, if only you could say the same for yourself.
“You too lack importance, and what’s worse…want to hurt people by being a parasite on them.
Yours is a sad situation as well, yet you like to wallow in it.”
So, Box, you’ve met and know BlueJay? What you are describing is not the person I know. I’ve only met James, but is was my decided impression that he is nothing like what he posts here.
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 6:11 pm | Permalink
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Naw. XXX would be the one clutching at his throat gasping for air and limping on the busted knee I give him.
I’m very adept at Tae Kwon Do. :)
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Right, and I’m adept at brain surgery, which I’d put up against your Tae Kwon Dont any day. Hahahahahaha!!!
Rep. Dennis Moore…has clearly earned another term. As the nation faces a host of difficult challenges at home and abroad, his knowledge and clear thinking on critical issues are needed in Washington more than ever.
Moore has consistently shown good judgment in Washington, earning re-election in the heavily Republican district by weighing each issue on its merits and taking a common-sense approach.
He’s the best choice again this November.
In his last two campaigns for the U.S. Senate, Pat Roberts has won endorsements from this newspaper. With a folksy manner and a delightful sense of humor, he is a popular figure in Kansas.
We, too, enjoy his jokes. But we believe the senator has made serious mistakes in his current Senate term, tying himself too closely to the now-discredited Bush administration as it went astray on the Iraq war, deficit spending, health care, civil liberties and other key issues.
So it’s time for some Kansas accountability. The better choice in this race is Jim Slattery…
Woman jailed who lied about bumper-sticker-linked attack
Posted: 07:54 PM ET
(CNN) — A GOP campaign worker who made up a story about being attacked by a man angered by a John McCain bumper sticker on her car was being held in a Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania-area jail Friday night, CNN has learned.
Ashley Todd, 20, of College Park, Texas, has been charged with filing a false police report, a misdemeanor, and may face more charges, said Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard at a news conference. Todd is incarcerated at the Allegheny County Jail but had not been arraigned Thursday night.
Keith Olberman confirms that reporters quoted McCain’s campaign with the story of Ashley Todd. McCain’s camp MADE UP the story to incite racial hatred.
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mxyzptlk
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:25 pm | Permalink
Keith Olberman confirms that reporters quoted McCain’s campaign with the story of Ashley Todd. McCain’s camp MADE UP the story to incite racial hatred.
The girl was a pawn in McCain’s game.
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Funny. Some folks took and ran with the original story and caught hell for it. And now; the mixed up alphabet person is doing the same thing.
Hypocrisy anyone?
Was the girl not a McCain staffer? Would they not be one of the first to know? Dummies everywhere.
Outlander-
the point is that the story was not hers…the McCain camp didn’t repeat what she said. They MADE it up. The rape, the knife, the Black man. THEY made it up.
Evidence has emerged that Sen. Barack Obama
belonged to a socialist political party that sought to elect members to public office with the aim of moving the Democratic Party far leftward to ultimately form a new political party with a socialist agenda
Regular, in case you were not aware of it, that is part of the Neo-Conservatives agenda. Though their designs is for the Republican party after failing to turn the Democrats in that direction.
Irving Kristol is a self announced Socialist. We need to take the party back from the Neo-Cons and return it to the real Republicans again.
As vt noted, there were doubts about her story early on. However, the McCain campaign and their fellow travellers in the media were flogging the story far and wide as gospel truth. So, it appears that they KNEW they were spreading lies all along.
What evidence? LOL. Show me. Show me. LOL. You mean like unsubstantiated evidence like all the other falsehoods? Show me. and not some right wing bs blog…
outlander posted October 24, 2008 at 7:33 pm
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mxyzptlk posted October 24, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Keith Olberman confirms that reporters quoted McCain’s campaign with the story of Ashley Todd. McCain’s camp MADE UP the story to incite racial hatred.
The girl was a pawn in McCain’s game.
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Funny. Some folks took and ran with the original story and caught hell for it. And now; the mixed up alphabet person is doing the same thing.
Hypocrisy anyone?
Was the girl not a McCain staffer? Would they not be one of the first to know? Dummies everywhere.
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Todd was working for the College Republican National Committee, NOT McCain’s campaign.
I posted this upthread at 5:02 [m.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iidrMKZwVNDDlEtkssY6t1xxhg9QD9411DE01
“Ethan Eilon, executive director of the College Republican National Committee, told reporters that Todd worked in New York for several months before moving to Pennsylvania two weeks ago to continue working for the group.
Eilon declined to comment on the investigation Friday or to help The Associated Press contact Todd. In a follow-up e-mail, Eilon said, “We think this girl has endured enough and that this is going to be something for her and her family to work through.”
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bth
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:40 pm | Permalink
“this is going to be something for her and her family to work through.”
I hope the authorities give her plenty of time to do that – IN JAIL. I wonder if McCain will visit her in the pokey.
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Actually, it’s a victimless crime – with the exception of wasting the police departments time.
Anyone that would mutilate themselves to gain attention, probably needs psychiatric help.
Buried Antarctic Mountain Range Shouldn’t Exist at All
An Antarctic mountain range that rivals the Alps in elevation will be probed this month by an expedition of scientists using airborne radar and other Information Age tools to virtually “peel away” more than 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) of ice covering the peaks.
DavidB
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:56 pm | Permalink
“I don’t think anyone who posts here is how they are in R.L.” Huh???
What is this, the SIMS???? Whahahahhaahha
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That is actually not a bad analogy. For example, above Regular tells us he is an Tae Kwon Do expert. I don’t know about you, but I have seen few people who require quad canes to walk around who are very good at Bruce Lee type jump kicks.
I won’t presume to debate Regular on psychiatric matters as I am sure he has ample patient experience.
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Actually, Regular’s behavior on the WE Blog would make a good psychiatric case study.
“Kansas values”(sic) Regular lies about what others have posted, lies about AGW science, adds false fictional paragraphs to his copy/pastes, seems obsessed with shrunken testes, small penises, etc, switched nics and denied it, and so on . . .
Isn’t it interesting how psychiatric problems are an excuse when its a republican…but not a democrat.
Yes, get the woman help and drop the case. Make sure she’s watched for a good long time, but don’t waste my tax dollars on jailing her without mental treatment.
Join Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, former Congressman Dan Glickman, U.S. Senate candidate Jim Slattery and U.S. House candidate Donald Betts as we “Barack the Early Vote” in Wichita on Saturday!
“Buried Antarctic Mountain Range Shouldn’t Exist at All”
I don’t know why they say that. We have known for decades about that range. It is believed to have risen when Antarctica was connected toother continents. It only fairly recently ‘floated off on its own’ and ended up at the south pole.
Before the 40s or so such a range would be a real problem to explain. However, plate tectonics has given us a great deal of more understanding. The peninsula is also related to this range where two pieces are ’sutured’ together.
Oh Chas I’d so love to, however, I’m constantly working right now. I can’t hardly get time to see my kids, or even eat a meal… much less do anything else.
LOL! Anybody here call 911, and the police, when traffic isn’t moving?
‘McCain’s brother apologizes for calling 911‘ http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081025/D9418G7O0.html
“Frustrated because of the traffic, he called 911 to find out what was going on. The operator asked him to “state your emergency.”
“Well, it’s not an emergency, but do you know why on one side at the damn drawbridge of 95 traffic is stopped for 15 minutes and yet traffic’s coming the other way?,” Joe McCain said.
The operator asked him if he was calling 911 to complain about traffic. McCain then uttered an expletive and hung up the phone.
McCain told WTOP that he thought his cell phone was on mute.
“I did not mean to swear at the officers themselves,” McCain said. If he were in their situation, “it would have really frosted me too and I absolutely understand their reaction.”
After hanging up with 911, McCain said he called Alexandria Police to ask them about the traffic on the bridge and got a similar reaction.”
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Political_mama
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:34 pm | Permalink
about taekwondo- my hubs says taekwondo is for show- they’re too flashy to actually fight. :D.
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It can be for show. It’s quite entertaining to watch as an art form.
I learned the combat style they teach to the Korean Army. Too much freaking exercise though!
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Creationists are so backward they want to revive dualism. Next stop for creationists, phrenology, and blood letting.
Creationists declare war over the brain
“YOU cannot overestimate,” thundered psychiatrist Jeffrey Schwartz, “how threatened the scientific establishment is by the fact that it now looks like the materialist paradigm is genuinely breaking down. You’re gonna hear a lot in the next calendar year about… how Darwin’s explanation of how human intelligence arose is the only scientific way of doing it… I’m asking us as a world community to go out there and tell the scientific establishment, enough is enough! Materialism needs to start fading away and non-materialist causation needs to be understood as part of natural reality.”
His enthusiasm was met with much applause from the audience gathered at the UN’s east Manhattan conference hall on 11 September for an international symposium called Beyond the Mind-Body Problem: New Paradigms in the Science of Consciousness. Earlier Mario Beauregard, a researcher in neuroscience at the University of Montreal, Canada, and co-author of The Spiritual Brain: A neuroscientist’s case for the existence of the soul, told the audience that the “battle” between “maverick” scientists like himself and those who “believe the mind is what the brain does” is a “cultural war”.
More creationist lunacy and why it is absurd at:
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg20026793.000-creationists-declare-war-over-the-brain.html?feedId=online-news_rss20
XXX
Dude, I found a photo of you out there on the inter tubes. Lookin good. Not exactly as I had pictured you, but close.
Uhh, try a salad from time to time.
http://tinyurl.com/68yftz
And I hear that there are some Dem’s in high places who want to do away with 401k’s.
Control freaks. Do all you can to keep folks dependant on government. And increase your power at the same time.
Advocates of illegal abortion are the real
“domestic terrorists.”
At its worst, the Weather Underground always announced its bombing targets.
Terrorists working on behalf of illegal abortion didn’t warn Dr. Barnett Slepian and Robert Sanderson (killed in 1998) or Dr. Jack Fainman and another unnamed physician (wounded in 1997) or Dr. Hugh Short (wounded in 1995) or Dr. John Bayard Britton, James H. Barrett, Shannon Lowney and Leanne Nichols (killed in 1994) or Dr. Garson Romalis and five others (wounded in 1994) or Dr. David Gunn (killed in 1993) or Dr. George Tiller (wounded in 1993).
Nor did they give warnings in most of the more than 200 clinic bombings and arsons since 1993, the most recent an unsolved case in Albuquerque, N.M., in December 2007.
All in the cause of
“pro-life”reviving the back-alley butcher industry.Hypocrites.
McCain’s brother is involved in political issues so when traffic is a problem he calls up 911 to have it fixed. When the operator asks if he is serious he responds in a family values manner.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_brother_calls_911_to_complain_1023.html
And in Ohio Republicans are upset that the Democratic Secretary of State won’t steal the election like the former Republican Secretary did. So they respond like they know how, with death threats.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Brunner_GOP_trying_to_intimidate_voters_1023.html
Obama doesnt want you to be able to protect your family
This ad refers to a 2003 incident when a Wilmette, Illinois restaurateur named Hale DeMar shot and wounded a burglar who broke into his house. DeMar was prosecuted by the town of Wilmette, which had, at the time, a ban on the possession of handguns. To prevent a reoccurance, Illinois lawmakers introduced legislation to offer legal protections to individuals who use firearms in self defense. The bill passed the Illinois state House by a vote of 86-25, and the Illinois state Senate by a vote of 39-20. Illinois state Senator Barack Obama voted against the bill.
http://tinyurl.com/5aptpf
It’s looking worse for McCain. Republican states Montana and North Dakota are even in the polls and Obama takes red state Indiana.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Obama leads with 375 electoral votes to McCain’s 157.
I’ve read many books about Mazda(ism), Zoroastrian(ism), The Bogomils and Cathars. I kind of agree with some of the dualists ideas. I’ve always been spiritual but never religious. I don’t “get” atheism and what follows, nihilism. I think we’re all connected to the same energy, one consciousness, if you will. So while I agree with evolution, I also subscribe to the battle of evil and good. I just feel that the evil is considered good in today’s society and humans have stopped evolving and are actually regressing. But then again, I’m no member of the intelligentsia.
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Heckler
Posted October 24, 2008 at 6:05 am | Permalink
XXX
Dude, I found a photo of you out there on the inter tubes. Lookin good. Not exactly as I had pictured you, but close.
Uhh, try a salad from time to time.
http://tinyurl.com/68yftz
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heh heh,
That dude had more chins than a Chinese phone book.
“And I hear that there are some Dem’s in high places who want to do away with 401k’s.
Control freaks. Do all you can to keep folks dependant on government. And increase your power at the same time.
Geez…are you guys getting desperate or what?
Give it up already…Obama’s gonna win by a landslide!!!
Maggotpunk
Posted October 24, 2008 at 6:04 am | Permalink
Creationists are so backward they want to revive dualism.
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hehehe
Revive dualism? What a maroon. When did dualism ever go away?
The only explanation for a finite mind is an infinite Mind!
Newspaper shows Obama belonged to socialist party new evidence indicates membership
Evidence has emerged that Sen. Barack Obama
belonged to a socialist political party that sought to elect members to public office with the aim of moving the Democratic Party far leftward to ultimately form a new political party with a socialist agenda.
Several blogs, including Powerline, previously documented that while running for the Illinois state Senate in 1996 as a Democrat, Obama actively sought and received the endorsement of the socialist-oriented New Party, with some blogs claiming Obama was a member of the controversial party.
The New Party, formed by members of the Democratic Socialists for America and leaders of
an offshoot of the Community Party USA, was an electoral alliance that worked alongside the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. The New Party’s aim was to help elect politicians to office who espouse its policies.
Among New Party members was linguist and radical activist Noam Chomsky.
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* The New Party was a third political party in the United States that tried to re-
introduce the practice of electoral fusion as a political strategy for labor unions and
community organizing groups.
* Chomsky has stated that his “personal visions are fairly traditional anarchist ones, with origins in The Enlightenment and classical liberalism”[39] and he has praised libertarian socialism.[40] He is a sympathizer of anarcho-syndicalism[41] and a member of the IWW union.[42] He has published a book on anarchism titled, “Chomsky on Anarchism”, which was published by the anarchist book collective, AK Press, in 2006.
wiki
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-file-41-obama-was-new-party.html
Hey heck..work for a living?…or do you depend on your government subsidized social security to get by?
See ya on the flip side, this democrat off to WORK so I can contribute the max to my 401K.
You know why there are so many more people at Obama rallies than at McCain rallies? The McCain supporters have to work.
Like I told Heck, Reg…give it up..your guy’s gonna lose BIG time!
Endorsements for Obama:
New York Times (check out the NYT endorsement timeline from 1860 – 2008, pretty cool):
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/opinion/24fri1.html?hp
Ron Howard, Andy Griffith, Henry Winkler, Sheriff Andy Taylor, Opie Taylor, Richie Cunningham, The Fonz (not kidding):
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/cc65ed650d
Good Morning Regular!
It appears that both of little Barry’s parents are from Kansas!
http://patdollard.com/2008/10/breaking-anti-obama-author-reveals-birth-certificate-findings-says-obama-is-son-of-frank-marshall-davis/
After throwing his grandmother under the bus he now has to make a speed run to Oahu to keep her mouth shut!
…and I’ll bet ACORN has all of them (Sheriff Andy Taylor, Opie Taylor, Richie Cunningham, The Fonz) registered in every state possible, too.
Mary
Don’t believe it? The 401k thing? Or just don’t give a rip? Anything the Dems want OK with you?
Dec 2008 Change Level Last
look out below !!!!!
http://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/
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“Obama doesnt want you to be able to protect your family”
What do you even care about your family there heck?
Still letting the boy chase horses?
swallow_my_nickel
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:27 am | Permalink
…and I’ll bet ACORN has all of them (Sheriff Andy Taylor, Opie Taylor, Richie Cunningham, The Fonz) registered in every state possible, too.
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And I bet they each vote twice to boot!
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HLP
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:27 am | Permalink
Good Morning Regular!
It appears that both of little Barry’s parents are from Kansas!
http://patdollard.com/2008/10/breaking-anti-obama-author-reveals-birth-certificate-findings-says-obama-is-son-of-frank-marshall-davis/
After throwing his grandmother under the bus he now has to make a speed run to Oahu to keep her mouth shut!
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Morning Hank!
I always knew you Navy guys had a nose for scuttlebutt, but I think you have surpassed all expectations on cyber sleuthing!
BTW, I heard duck droppings make excellent fertilizer for asparagus when mixed in with liberal amounts of fish meal.
Mary
Just in case you do care here’s the link.
http://www.investmentnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081012/REG/310139971
House Democrats contemplate abolishing 401(k) tax breaks
Mandatory contributions from workers considered
Like I said. Control freaks.
Barack Obama’s grandmother is dying.
What a great opportunity for CONservative glee.
Good MORNING Hank?
“HLP” for today?
“Regular” proudly welcomes you to his camp and the same credibility he has here.
Monkey”boy”
“Barack Obama’s grandmother is dying.
What a great opportunity for CONservative glee.”
“boy” if it were me and I had the resources Obama has at his disposal it wouldnt have taken me 2 days to get there. And I wouldnt have taken time out to do interviews about it for Good Morning Amerika.
Yeah Monkeyhawk,
We are gonna see the worst of some very bad people.
I intend to let my son read their every word. Better than anything he could ever learn in school.
Heckler
Posted October 24, 2008 at 6:05 am | Permalink
XXX
Dude, I found a photo of you out there on the inter tubes. Lookin good. Not exactly as I had pictured you, but close.
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Starting kind of early, aren’t we?
Your continuing interest in me is quite flattering. Maybe someday you can meet the REAL XXX.
XXX
Lets do lunch today. Maybe I can talk some sense into you regarding Obama.
OBAMA TAKES LEAD IN INDIANA!!!
I N D I A N A!
Read and weep cons.
http://electoral-vote.com/
From my link…
“Our total now shows Obama at 375 electoral votes, the highest total we have seen for any candidate in either 2004 or 2008. Unless John McCain can pull a rabbit out of the hat next week, it looks bad for him. New polls show Obama with a 10-point lead in Indiana and a 4-point lead in Montana, two very red states.”
BlueJay sings…
Turn out the lights, The party’s over.
Republican party that is.
BlueJay
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:54 am | Permalink
From my link…
“Our total now shows Obama at 375 electoral votes,
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Really? That many electoral votes?
Odd, I was very sure that electoral votes were not cast until the popular vote was completed after November 4?
Perhaps the Democrits have new inroads to counting votes, the ACORN way?
And the death knell continues to toll for the McCain Campaign:
New polls paint bleak battleground map for McCain campaign
A series of new polls released Thursday found a bleak outlook for John McCain, even in traditionally Republican states, and a potential landslide victory for Democrat Barack Obama on Nov. 4.
The polls found McCain trailing Obama in the battleground states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania and suggest that he’s behind even in solidly red states such as Indiana, and they also suggest that his talk about “Joe the Plumber” has done little to help his cause.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/54703.html
It’s a little early to count McCain out. He’s the original “Come back Kid”. But the numbers sure look good for Obama.
Maybe McCain can write a book after this is all over
How NOT to Run A Campaign.
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Heckler
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:49 am | Permalink
XXX
Lets do lunch today. Maybe I can talk some sense into you regarding Obama.
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Sadly, I’m not in Wichita today. I’m off for a couple of days; we’ve had a death in the family. Can I get a rain check for next week sometime?
Like I told Heck, Reg…give it up..your guy’s gonna lose BIG time!
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Mary, I hate to tell you but if Obama wins, then we ALL lose BIG time and you are part of that ALL.
As you know, Biden has stated, “Mark my words, it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. Watch. We’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
FYI: John Kennedy had the Cuban Crisis to contend with. Now they are telling us that we will have another crisis like Kennedy. We have not been hit since 9/11/01. I believe they are telling us to get ready to be hit again.
Then I cannot believe, yes I can, the audacity of the next statement that Biden tells us, “And he’s going to need help…stand with him. Because it’s not going to be apparent initially; it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.”
FYI: They know how badly they have treated Bush on this Iraq War so they want to make sure that you, the democrats, don’t treat Obama the way they trained you to treat Bush. So no matter what Obama does, even when it looks like it’s not right, PLEASE!!!! keep supporting him.
I think you dems have a tough job ahead of you. It will be hard to support a president who you voted for, who is going to allow us to face a major crisis especially one that is purposely generated; and that he even had the audacity to warn you about it and then say support me no matter what. The dems don’t have a good track record on that one, do they?
Another Republican Governor Backs Obama
Former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld (R) endorsed Sen. Barack Obama for president, the Boston Globe reports.
Said Weld: “Senator Obama is a once-in-a-lifetime candidate who will transform our politics and restore America’s standing in the world. We need a president who will lead based on our common values and Senator Obama demonstrates an ability to unite and inspire.”
Yesterday, former Minnesota Gov. Arne Carlson (R) announced his support for Obama.
XXX
Sorry to hear about that. Thats always challenging.
I have some software training at work all next week. Lunch time will be too short. It’ll have to be another week.
My condolences XXX.
Weld publicly endorsed Mitt Romney for the presidency on January 8, 2007. Weld served as the co-chairman for Romney’s campaign in New York State.[7] On the same day that Weld endorsed Romney, Gov. and Mrs. Weld also raised $50,000 for Romney’s exploratory committee. Weld personally made a donation of $2,100 dollars, the maximum allowed per person per election at the time. He later donated another $200 dollars (the new maximum allowed was $2,300).
Weld was also active in campaigning for Governor Romney in New Hampshire where both Governors have been known to travel together.
Wiki
Appears that Weld is just another RINO.
“As soon as I’m sure the stock market has pretty much bottomed out we’ll put 12 grand in a Roth IRA.”
Top of the morning to you there Hank! (I’m me now, thank-you very much) Nice of you to cover for me last night.
The better half and I also max out the Roth deal this year for the fifty and over crowd. Only we dollar cost average and make monthly contributions – so we pretty much have taken a beating this year.
But wanted to make sure you were aware of the 401K provisions too. My max this year is 20,500 and the Mrs is aiming high too. But again, this has been periodic investments each payday – so we are beat up here too.
The good news is I don’t have to worry about Obama raising taxes on capital gains: Or if they start taxing our retirement savings (that is their next stop). Means testing won’t be an issue either.
Guess I’ll be joining the lower 50%.
““And I hear that there are some Dem’s in high places who want to do away with 401k’s.”
The market is doing that for us now.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Republican HQ Manager’s Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
http://www.local6.com/politics/17784129/detail.html
‘Democrats Far More Aggressive in Seminole County,’ Victim Says’
“LONGWOOD, Fla. — The home of a Central Florida Republican headquarters manager was shot up and damaged over his support of Sen. John McCain, the man told police.
Rog Coverely said several pellets pierced his Longwood home. Coverely showed several spiderwebbed-holes in the front windows of his home.
The Republican manager said he is convinced he was targeted because of new McCain signs he added around his home.
“All I can tell you is this, I have a very good relationship with my neighbors,” Coverely said. “I mow my lawn. The only thing that has changed is I have two McCain signs in my front yard.”
Coverely said he has taken about 300 calls concerning stolen or vandalized McCain signs in the area.
“It says this campaign is getting vicious,” Coverely said.
Coverely said it appears Democrats are becoming more aggressive in the county.
“I wouldn’t say slipping, but I would say the Democrats have become far more aggressive in Seminole County because it is such a heavy Republican area,” Coverely said.
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Heckler
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:10 am | Permalink
XXX
Sorry to hear about that. Thats always challenging.
I have some software training at work all next week. Lunch time will be too short. It’ll have to be another week.
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Busy, Busy, Busy! But I understand. Let’s not let this slip by the wayside. Maybe week after next? Then we’ll really have something to discuss, LOL!
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Monkeyhawk
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:37 am | Permalink
Barack Obama’s grandmother is dying.
What a great opportunity for CONservative glee.
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Well, I suppose that conservatives might take some glee in Obama’s grandmother’s ill health if we thought like you, Monkeyhawk. Fortunately, we don’t.
I know, basic human decency is hard for you to understand, eh?
Thanks, BJ.
BlueJay – what strikes me on that Electoral College map is that there are 260 STRONG Obama votes. That means if he can just hold onto one ow two of the ‘weak’ or ‘barely’ Obama states he is in. McCain must run the table of everything that is even remotely in play.
That said – things remain volatile. And, with the stock market crash continuing today and the recession deepening I think it will get even worse for the Party of Herbert Hoover.
XXX
“Busy, Busy, Busy! But I understand. Let’s not let this slip by the wayside. Maybe week after next? Then we’ll really have something to discuss, LOL!”
Lunch. Nov,3 or 4th. But you can’t vote before we eat.
Boxlock
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:18 am | Permalink
Republican HQ Manager’s Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
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Hmmmmm, no suspects, no witnesses. Quite the rush to judgment there, Boxlock.
If anybody missed SNL last night, you MUST catch the re run Saturday.
Heh, bush endorses McCain while Palin flashes a thigh and a wink.
“And I hear that there are some Dem’s in high places who want to do away with 401k’s.”
And heckie reveals the truth about what a parnoid nut job he is.
Yes indeed, go read his link. You’ll find that what he is wetting the bed about is NOT being seriously considered. It was proposed by someone NOT in congress, as part of a larger plan. The larger plan was discussed, but it isnt under serious consideration.
His link is mostly quotes from big money investment people about how awful it would be.
I wonder if the ever paranoid and heckler pooped the bed as well as peed his panties over this imagined boogy man?
Go to his link. See what it really says. Then you can laugh your ass off at heckler.
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Heckler
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:22 am | Permalink
XXX
“Busy, Busy, Busy! But I understand. Let’s not let this slip by the wayside. Maybe week after next? Then we’ll really have something to discuss, LOL!”
Lunch. Nov,3 or 4th. But you can’t vote before we eat.
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How about Nov 3? 11:30? Let’s make it interesting. Hooters on North Rock.
This stuff about obama rushing to his grandmother’s bedside to cover something up tells you the real level of fear amongst the republicans.
It’s not very flattering for them.
If this is how low they will stoop now, just think about how low they’ll go if mcsame is elected?
Sounds like another day of big buying opportunity for the nutboy golfer today.
I wonder when he’ll reach the bottom of his bottom feeding fund?
I’m not laughing either. Wheat has closed below five dollars a bushel almost all week. And crop inputs are estimated this year to be over seven dollars a bushel.
Maybe it’s time to cash out on farming? I mean, before the eighties are here again?
To continue the “Titanic” analogy….
Remember when the rich jerk looks around at the screaming panic and tells his manservant…
“It’s starting to fall apart.”
The cons are right about there.
Nice job shrub! You wanted to be st. ronnie raygun’s second coming and it looks like you succeeded. You wrecked every section of the economy!
Hell, even carter couldnt have done this bad of a job.
Worst.president.ever
Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.
House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.
A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered. She testified last week before Miller’s Education and Labor Committee on her proposal.
At that hearing, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, Peter Orszag,
testified that some $2 trillion in retirement savings has been lost over the past 15 months.
Under Ghilarducci’s plan, all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted
subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration.
The money in turn would be invested in special government bonds that would pay 3 percent a year, adjusted for inflation.
The current system of providing tax breaks on 401(k) contributions and earnings would be eliminated.
So, instead of getting around 15% on my 401k investments, I’ll get a government bond at
3%. Why don’t they just kick me straight in the groin while they are at it? Seriously, this is what passes for a reform to Democrats?
John Belluardo, president of Stewardship Financial Services Inc. said it best when he said, “From where I sit that’s just crazy…If the tax deferral goes away, the employers have no reason to do the matches, which primarily help people in the lower income brackets.”
But the problem with the 401k plan is it’s seated in individual and personal responsibility. And another big factor is the billions of dollars the Democrats don’t get to tax. Both of those run counter to the Democrats philosophy of having government be the nanny of the masses.
The Democrats simply cannot get enough of your property and they won’t hesitate to create new ways to take more of it. Here is a plan, the 401k plan, that is far more credible than Social Security, and they want to take money from it, essentially taking money out of the economy, and give it to government bureaucrats for their failed inter-generational Ponzi scheme.
This is not the change America needs.
http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2008/10/house_democrats_aim_to_remove.php
And a vote for mcsame will continue all these wonderful economic wrecking policies.
And kansas will fall for it.
Again.
Pre-Market Trading Halted as Global Markets Slide
U.S. stocks plummeted in pre-market trading this morning and pre-trading on the Standard & Poor’s 500 index fell by so much that pre-market trading was halted.
The markets will still open this morning. The New York Stocks Exchange halts trading for limited amounts of time when losses reach pre-set levels– a 10 percent in most cases.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/24/AR2008102401169.html?hpid=topnews?hpid=topnews
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Well this doesn’t bode well for the economy. Fortunately, I got out of the market last spring except for a few shares that I think will survive the fall.
Are you repubs enjoying watching your investments and 401k dwindle?
Wouldn’t this be a crappy time to consider retirement?
So, instead of getting around 15% on my 401k investments,
prove to me that your getting 15%
Yeah, it’s a lot of fun. The world is down about 10% today. Are yours not dwindling XXX?
This fear of a recession is ridiculous. We’ve all been through them. Get into it, hit bottom and start the recovery. It is a part of the normal business cycle. Trying to fight it by throwing money at it is like trying to stop the tide from coming in with a bucket.
Boxlock
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:18 am | Permalink
Republican HQ Manager’s Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
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I think I’ve figured out why you guys keep up the insanity re:Obama even though it hurts McCain/Palin far, far more than it hurts Obama. The rational part anyway.
Current working theory: Iraq + Terry Schiavo + Katrina + The Bailout, the sum of that list is a far, far, far smaller amount in your mind than in the mind of the average voter. There must be vast swaths of Red America that just haven’t accurately calculated the damage self-inflicted by the GOP on the GOP yet.
By the way, is this FLA shootout anything like the TX girl who got carved up in PA? How is that one turning out today? Any updates on the TX girl? :D
Note
“A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered.”
note
“Under Ghilarducci’s plan”
It is HER plan, not the plan of “high level democrats”.She testified at a hearing. It is NOT under serious consideration. If she hadnt been heard, you would have said congress wasnt looking at all possible alternatives.
Hell, the 911 conspiracy people testified at hearings too. So did Code Pink. Are you saying all THAT is under serious consideration? Jesus WEPT!
note
“John Belluardo, president of Stewardship Financial Services Inc. said”
Quotes investment guy. A quote from one of those high level democrats supporting this? Not so much.
And note the source of Reg’s link. RIGHTWINGNEWS?
Heh. Heheheheh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Betwetters.
Thanks for proving me right Reg. I appreciate it.
Looks like the DOW will go under 8000 today.
Money saving suggestion: AT&T U-verse is in town, check it out. They came out this week and my phone, internet and television is now digital. Installation if free, reception on television is comparable to HD, even the clarity on the phones is a noticeable improvement, internet connection faster AND it all costs less! I went from Dish Network but would have realized even greater savings if the change had been from Cox.
“There must be vast swaths of Red America that just haven’t accurately calculated the damage self-inflicted by the GOP on the GOP yet.”
No, and why should they calculate the damage?
They are STILL safe from gay marriage!
nitwits
Here’s a good article about go old Joe Biden and what if Obama’s wife had been on Saturday night live.http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78921
Hi Linda. You are missed when you are not here.
And where has Pmom been? She’s missed too!
George? That’s not a live link.
Yet another con with technology challenges?
Sigh. I guess being lame on the computer is a presidential quality now. George seems to be at mcsame’s level of competency.
Told any kids to get off your lawn today?
Good morning farmgrrl. Thank you. Company in town this week, the installation of my new ISP… Boy, I like this U-Verse!
I read a post from PMom saying she was so busy and so tired she didn’t have time to play but was still thinking about us. ;-( Hope she catches up with herself and gets to plays sometime soon.
Did you all read the New York Times endorsement of Obama? WOW! If General Powell was speaking to the Republican Party in his endorsement, read this one! Of course, the two groups (neocons and religious nutjobs) who need to heed the words — won’t. They’re too far off in Nutland to recognize reality.
Check out the NYT endorsement. Many good points!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/opinion/24fri1.html?hp
They are STILL safe from gay marriage!
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That is by far the gayest thing I have heard this morning!
outlander
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:40 am | Permalink
Yeah, it’s a lot of fun. The world is down about 10% today. Are yours not dwindling XXX?
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Outlander,
Actually, I’m doing ok. I’ve seen this coming for a while and have had time to prepare for it. My 401k is pretty conservative and I’m doing a lot better than most of my friends.
Been around but still very relevant and coming true.
HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?
This is the most interesting thing I’ve read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming now.
I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.
How Long Do We Have?
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
‘A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.’
‘A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.’
‘>From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.’
‘The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years’
‘During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
3. from courage to liberty;
4. from liberty to abundance;
5. from abundance to complacency;
6. from complacency to apathy;
7. from apathy to dependence;
8. from dependence back into bondage’
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St.. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: ‘In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…’ Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the ‘complacency and apathy’ phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the ‘governmental dependency’ phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal’s and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
XXX
“How about Nov 3? 11:30? Let’s make it interesting. Hooters on North Rock.”
I can do that. Looking forward to it.
I never understood what the big deal is about their hot wings. I think they suck, all greasy and slimy.
The buggers are usually good though.
woops.
buggers s/b burgers.
Linda, if you don’t mind, what does you ATT U-Verse package cost?
…slip of the tongue there…
you+r=your
Will all you rich dems and libs here on WE spread some of your wealth? I could use an addition to my garage and a new car would be nice but, I want someboday else to pay for it. Why not spread your wealth around, not likely.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kNVPZaj1sYA
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:41 am | Permalink
Note
“A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered.”
note
“Under Ghilarducci’s plan”
It is HER plan, not the plan of “high level democrats”.She testified at a hearing. It is NOT under serious consideration. If she hadnt been heard, you would have said congress wasnt looking at all possible alternatives.
Hell, the 911 conspiracy people testified at hearings too. So did Code Pink. Are you saying all THAT is under serious consideration? Jesus WEPT!
note
“John Belluardo, president of Stewardship Financial Services Inc. said”
Quotes investment guy. A quote from one of those high level democrats supporting this? Not so much.
And note the source of Reg’s link. RIGHTWINGNEWS?
Heh. Heheheheh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Betwetters.
Thanks for proving me right Reg. I appreciate it.
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Glad to oblige – you do realize if the democraps thought they could get away with it in an economic crisis, they would do it.
The crats are just looking after their own political necks first is the primary reason they aren’t pushing forward the legislation.
Boxlock–
Why didn’t the McCain supporter just pull out one of his guns and shoot back?
Maybe guns don’t keep us “safer” after all, eh?
BTW, did you notice how crime rates PLUNGED after Kansas passed concealed carry?
Uh, yeah.
Neither did I.
And speaking of stealing signs, my Obama sign got pulled out of my front yard along with a Nola Foulston.
Thanks a lot, Repukes.
Unfortunately for you, I already had another one on order.
And every time you pull one, we buy another one and that’s more money for the Democrats and Obama.
“Well this doesn’t bode well for the economy. Fortunately, I got out of the market last spring except for a few shares that I think will survive the fall.
Are you repubs enjoying watching your investments and 401k dwindle?
Wouldn’t this be a crappy time to consider retirement?”
Yeah XXX.
Especially if bush and his merry band of congressional REPUBLICANS had gotten their way and privatized Social Security.
Grandpa wouldnt have had a lawn anymore to chase kids off of, no?
Early on in the Clinton years the Democrats actually considered doing a one time tax on ALL 401k accounts to boost the treasury. That would have been in 1993 or 1994 before the Republicans took control of congress.
Look for more crap like this to come if Obama wins and the Dems get anything near a super majority in Congress.
…and no, I don’t have a link, that was a few years before wide-spread internet usage by the news media.
The Dow is set to open at 8200.
Man, things haven’t been this bad since Bush’s first full year in office . . .
And ya gotta love McSame bleating over and over again, “I’m NOT BUSH. I’m NOT BUSH.”
So, who’s do you hate, CONs? Bush or McCain?
Because according to McCain, Bush is bad.
“Glad to oblige – you do realize if the democraps thought they could get away with it in an economic crisis, they would do it.”
Reg, why on earth would anyone, except a wonky professor, support this? What possible benefit would happen? It isnt just politics, it’s a dumb idea.
But while we’re on the subject, exactly HOW do you think this country will have to deal with the bush deficit?
You dont want to raise taxes or fees on the wealthy. Or on investments, or on anything.
How do you suggest the government deal with the wreckage left behind by the borrow and mortgage republicans?
I dont think “growing our way out” is going to work very well. Given the wreckage, it’s going to be all we can do to just tread water, much less grow.
Deficits DO matter. St. ronnie raygun and his supply side suckers were wrong.
Heckler ridicules the Democrats’ wanting to pay down debt and pay-as-they-go instead of racking up massive debt like the Repukes do.
That’s why it’s Obama in a landslide.
Further theories, presented here in a new sum:
1. Grover Norquist’s useful idiot George W Bush’s “success” in pursuing the passive dismantling of government (leading it to the bathtub, as it were) has resulted in real harm to the US. Roads, bridges, science, business regulation: all of these are on life-support today.
2. This means that change at the margin can bring ENORMOUS improvement to Americans’ lives. In other words, there is a TON of low-hanging fruit right now, thanks mostly to the GOP.
3. A new government, one working to restore rather than dismantle government, can harvest that low-hanging fruit.
SUM: Obama is well on the road to looking like a great, great president. Especially if he gets a Democrat Congress which doesn’t mess it up Miss Rose Mary (which could easily happen).
The odds for a second Obama term, given a first, are excellent.
Anti, like all providers they have different packages but these compare to the content of Cox packages and there is a savings on all. They hooked up five televisions (I know — EXCESSIVE!), a wireless network, phone. The free DVR is installed and currently only allows the pause live TV, record… on that television but Dec. 20th they will have completed another level of digital wiring and all my televisions will have that capability (no need for them to return or additional DVRs). Allows you to pause what you’re watching for up to 90 minutes. You may record up to four shows simultaneously. I can access my account online from anywhere and schedule what I want to record (a movie, an entire series…). I have a free unlimited flick’r account and can (also online) make my photos appear as a slide show on television. telephone is unlimited local and long distance (including Canada). I had DSL thru sbc for internet and the new digital service thru U-Verse is noticeably faster.
I’m sounding like a commercial. Sorry. But this is new, in fact, I think not available in all of the city. Check it out. I am well pleased! The installation was professional and efficient AND FREE!
…and HOW is the country going to deal with it’s crumbling infrastructure?
If we dont raise taxes on someone, who will pay for the deteriorating bridges, highways, water systems? How will we pay to maintain our military bases and support the veterans and wounded warriors who will need lifetime care?
Borrow more from China?
That seems to be bushco’s answer. And the republican’s answer.
Why do bush and the republicans hate our children?
Obama keeps denying his past Socialist history, but somehow he can’t get away from what he ready is, a story teller.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78945
Obama’s Birth Certificate?
Let’s say you’re a Democrat and let’s say you’re running for president of the United States.
You’re a likable guy and are doing well–the New York Times and AP think you’re peachy–but there have been whispers of whether or not you are constitutionally qualified.
A prominent Democrat files suit in Federal court asking you to provide proof, to settle the matter once and for all.
What do you do?
* A. Provide the court with the three documents in question and go back to shaking
hands, making promises and smiling for the cameras.
* B. Provide images of one of the documents to a friendly website to post, but not to the court.
* C. Ignore the request, then make a motion to dismiss the case, in lieu of providing the proof.
* D. In the meantime, quietly, post a notice at your website, FighttheSmears.com that you had dual citizenship with Kenya.
* E. Hire the top gun attorney from the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)to fight the case.
* F. File a Joint Motion for Protective Order to Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on the Motion to Dismiss (which was) filed on 09/24/08, thereby putting the matter off until–hopefully–after the election.
Time’s up. What do you do?
Most readers sensibly chose A.
But, if you’re Barack Obama, you chose answers B, C, D, E and F.
A curious response for a campaign interested in “fighting the smears”.
What’s the big deal? Regular folks provide their birth certificates every day for any number of reasons: obtaining a driver’s license or marriage license come to mind. Heck, even kids have to provide a certified copy of their birth certificates to register for kindergarten in many locales.
Most people do it–if they’re able–without much grumbling.
And they’re not even running for President.
As DBKP kept asking for ten long months during the John Edwards’ scandal:
“If there is nothing to hide, why is everyone involved going to such lengths to hide it?”
“…and no, I don’t have a link, that was a few years before wide-spread internet usage by the news media.”
Thanks for reminding us that it was from the Department of Things I Imagined During the Night.
SURELY some wingnut, paranoid website would have the facts? heheheheheh.
Pedant – I hope you are correct BUT …
Obama will have to take some very unpleasant actions to try to deal with the massive pile of unpaid bills left by the Bush/GOP spending binge of the past 8 years. This WILL require taxes and WILL also inhibit initaiting programs. Hopefully in four years we will be seeing an upward trend as we recover from the hangover but I’m just not sure. The Republics will seek to blame Obama and the Democrats for all of the pain caused by trying to pay of their credit card bills. Hopefully they will not succeed.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink
“Glad to oblige – you do realize if the democraps thought they could get away with it in an economic crisis, they would do it.”
Reg, why on earth would anyone, except a wonky professor, support this? What possible benefit would happen? It isnt just politics, it’s a dumb idea.
But while we’re on the subject, exactly HOW do you think this country will have to deal with the bush deficit?
You dont want to raise taxes or fees on the wealthy. Or on investments, or on anything.
How do you suggest the government deal with the wreckage left behind by the borrow and mortgage republicans?
I dont think “growing our way out” is going to work very well. Given the wreckage, it’s going to be all we can do to just tread water, much less grow.
Deficits DO matter. St. ronnie raygun and his supply side suckers were wrong.
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I agree, it’s a wonky idea from a nutty Professor.
Which, I might add, had the ear of two powerful Democratic Congressmen on the Ways and Means committee.
Of course, the Crats do enjoy peeing on the electric fence.
HA! The real source of this tax your retirement meme.
Freeperville. Go figure….
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2112274/posts?page=71 – 46k
Oh, and I googled every which way to find the Clinton wanted to tax 401k’s meme. Couldnt even find it on freeperville, much less a credible source.
You are on a roll of being wrong and wild arm flailing this morning.
Come on. Post another meme and go for the Friday Morning Trifecta!
Wake me up Reg when it is SERIOUSLY considered.
And… you still havent answered my questions about how to deal with the bushco deficit if taxes are not raised on SOMEONE?
Just let future generations worry about it, and every other stupid damn things we’ve done over the last eight years?
Why do republicans hate our children?
Thanks Linda, I had Dish Network at one time and was very pleased. I have ATT DSL internet now and have had extensive issues with that…I won’t even get into the customer service headaches..Anyway I may check into the U-Verse since it sounds like it doesn’t run off of the telephone lines. (My problems were with the actual telephone lines mainly)
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:09 am
Got a source for that Reg? Freeperville? Townhall? Malkinhate?
And george, feel free to give YOUR solution to now this nation will deal with the bushco deficits without raising SOMEONE’s taxes?
Borrow more from China?
Regular – right now I think what the hearings are doing is listening to ALL possible proposals. That does not mean that they are endorsing any of them.
I guess the idea of brainstorming escapes you …
“A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.”
Funny . . . George W. Bush kept telling us that “Democracy was on the march.” The man loved that line.
BTW, the American version of democracy, though very imperfect, has been in place for 232 years, Europe and England 200 years, India some 60 years.
Looks like the old Scottish professor, who was probably a devout monarchist since he was writing BEFORE ANY MODERN DEMOCRACIES HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED, was pretty much full of crap.
But it’s not surprising that CONs secretly long for King. It’s just another version of “big, strong authoritarian daddy” they ascribe to . . .
My pals in Austin have Uverse and they LOVED it! It is cheaper than Dish and and ISP too!
Palin’s Makeup Stylist Fetches Highest Salary in 2-Week Period
By Michael Luo
Who was the highest paid individual in Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign during the first half of October as it headed down the homestretch?
Not Randy Scheunemann, Mr. McCain’s chief foreign policy adviser; not Nicolle Wallace, his senior communications staff member. It was Amy Strozzi, who was identified by the Washington Post this week as Gov. Sarah Palin’s traveling makeup artist, according to a new filing with the Federal Election Commission on Thursday night.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/pains-makeup-stylist-fetches-highest-salary-in-2-week-period/
Interesting priorities.
bth, the key is how much and how ripe is the low-hanging fruit.
I think there’s a lot and it’s very ripe. Just the change in direction — away from government passivity and to government action — should break to Obama’s advantage (and ours).
Plus the GOP is going to undergo a massive blood-letting. Odds are also excellent that they’ll empower the fringe, not the winners (they’ll argue that McCain just wasn’t “conservative enough”). I’m bettin’ we see the Obama Chronicles within a year.
If the GOP is still shooting “Obama’s fake birth certificate” and “Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist” bullets at Obama, hopefully that is easily marginalized.
KFG
“Reg, why on earth would anyone, except a wonky professor, support this? What possible benefit would happen? It isn’t just politics, it’s a dumb idea.”
I have a hard time believing that you are this naive KFG. There are some serious hard core Marxists and Communists in Congress. They want to control as much of what goes on in this country as they can. They want as many people as possible dependant on government. It is power to them. And they are truly power freaks.
They don’t think like you, they despise capitalism. They want sameness and uniformity for everyone. They would rather see everyone live in mediocrity than see a few live in poverty.
There’s 3 or 4 of them on this board. They’ve said as much themselves.
That you don’t understand this blows my mind.
“I have a hard time believing that you are this naive KFG. There are some serious hard core Marxists and Communists in Congress. They want to control as much of what goes on in this country as they can. They want as many people as possible dependant on government. It is power to them. And they are truly power freaks.
They don’t think like you, they despise capitalism. They want sameness and uniformity for everyone. They would rather see everyone live in mediocrity than see a few live in poverty.”
Good god.
That you are THAT paranoid and delusional blows MY mind!
BOO!
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Heckler
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:52 am | Permalink
XXX
“How about Nov 3? 11:30? Let’s make it interesting. Hooters on North Rock.”
I can do that. Looking forward to it.
I never understood what the big deal is about their hot wings. I think they suck, all greasy and slimy.
The buggers are usually good though.
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Monday Nov 3 it is then.
Funny, I don’t notice the food so much at Hooters, LOL!
Regular is off his meds again.
The birth certificate that Obama provided clearly states that “this document is a legal document.”
So, if you aren’t satisfied with it, sue the State of Hawaii which declares that it is truthful and valid.
KFG
“And… you still havent answered my questions about how to deal with the bushco deficit if taxes are not raised on SOMEONE?”
The “Fair Tax”, make America the tax haven to the world. Economic expansion on steroids.
“Plus the GOP is going to undergo a massive blood-letting. Odds are also excellent that they’ll empower the fringe, not the winners (they’ll argue that McCain just wasn’t “conservative enough”).”
Oh yeah. Just like after bushco phocked things up, they said shrub wasnt a real conservative!
Popping the popcorn now!
I wonder where the real republicans will go after they abandon the shell of the party inhabited by the religious right and the neocons?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
The actual line reads: “This copy serves a prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
So, you’re not just accusing Obama of legal fraud, but the entire system in place in Hawaii.
You got nothing.
KFG
“That you are THAT paranoid and delusional blows MY mind!”
You ever heard Barney Frank talk about taxes when he’s not talking to someone from a news network? Pretty scary.
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink
Regular is off his meds again.
The birth certificate that Obama provided clearly states that “this document is a legal document.”
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Then where is it?
No one has seen the vault certified copy of Obama’s birth certificate.
“The “Fair Tax”, make America the tax haven to the world. Economic expansion on steroids.”
Can you prove that? Because no REAL economist supports that. They may support it for it’s purported “fairness” fantasy, but no serious economist thinks it will “grow” anything.
I think you just hit the third installment of the wingnut trifecta…
“BTW, did you notice how crime rates PLUNGED after Kansas passed concealed carry?
Uh, yeah.
Neither did I.”
—Capn
And neither did blood run in the streets either.
Notice how few incidence of concealed carry holders are committing crimes, or negligent discharges occure with them?
Like what….next to none!
The purpose of CCW is not to reduce crime, it is to recognize the right to self protection. I’m not out fighting crime….I do want to protect my family.
Capn, it simply amazes me how you, and most DimLibs, make judgments based on emotion, feelings, opinions, and simply ignore the facts, even when they overwhelmingly contradict what you are endorsing. As is this case.
Pleefer
If you are still out there, check your GMail.
“If the GOP is still shooting “Obama’s fake birth certificate” and “Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist” bullets at Obama, hopefully that is easily marginalized.”
My words. Marginalizing these guys needs to be handled very carefully, in a way that gives them a path to the mainstream, so that they always have a way back from their nutty selves. Clinton’s sneering at them for 8 years backfired on John Kerry, credit where credit is due.
Managing America’s fringe and treating them as fully deserving Americans should be a top, TOP priority.
KFG
Your Google Foo is weak. Found this in 15 seconds. It was second or third on the list.
Yeah it’s just a forum, I’ll keep looking and bring you more.
“In an effort to increase funds for Social Security, the Hildabeast presented a bill to Congress to impliment a “ONE Time” 15% tax on ALL 401K’s and ALL Retirement Funds! Good thing the Republicans were in the majority when this finnaly made it to a vote, because had this passed it would have become a habit, and not a “one time fix” “
Regular–
You don’t have to see the “vault copy” because the computer copy is a legal document that the State of Hawaii declares is just as good.
If you don’t like it, sue Hawaii.
Box–
I’m not the one who’s so scared of walking around in America, he has to tote a gun.
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
The actual line reads: “This copy serves a prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
So, you’re not just accusing Obama of legal fraud, but the entire system in place in Hawaii.
You got nothing.
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Where is the notarized seal that is on every vault certified certificate from Hawaii?
If I was to go get my birth certificate right now, in order for it to be certified and legal, it would have to be accompanied with an affidavit of legal conformity by notarized seal.
Obama’s birth certificate you reference does not have this.
You see that big empty space on the certificate?
That’s where the seal and the signature of the notary goes.
Actually kfg, As you can see from this link, the fair tax is supported by real economists for a host of reasons. But, it would involve real change in the entrenched system, so it is unlikely to get much serious consideration.
http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/Open_Letter.pdf
“Yeah it’s just a forum, I’ll keep looking and bring you more.”
Heheheheh. Just a forum? Like freeperville or townhall or malkinville? Heheheheh. HAHAHAHAHA.
Any “source” that uses the term Hildebeast is hardly a credible news source..
I do indeed think Heckie is the trifecta winner for the day!
RAMEN!
KFG
“Can you prove that? Because no REAL economist supports that. They may support it for it’s purported “fairness” fantasy, but no serious economist thinks it will “grow” anything.”
Think about it for a moment. No taxes on business or or income. Think of all the money that US corporations hold overseas to avoid taxes. Think of all the hoops wealthy people jump through to find offshore tax havens to shelter their money from income taxes. What happens when all that money comes home and works in our economy instead of someone else’s?
Doesn’t take an Ivy League economist to figure that out.
Hey, over at DU and Kos, they say bush eats live babies for breakfast. I mean, it’s just a forum and all….
Maybe if I used quotation marks it would give it more credibility?
heheheheh. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA. HEE HEEHEEE!!!!
Too much fun….
“Think about it for a moment. No taxes on business or or income.”
Heheheh. It’s a republican wet dream. Betting on horses is gambling, not sound economics.
No wonder no credible economist says it would result in paying off our debt, and our children’s debt, and their children’s debt to China.
Only in your mind heckie. And freeperville.
If I were you, I’d observe the first rule of holes here. But I secretly hope you dont. I’m having waaaaay too much fun laughing at your unsubstantiated economic fantasy.
As an economist heckie, you are a great horseman.
Have we seen the “vault copy” of mcsame’s birth certificate? I mean, since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone and all….
Hell, did they even KEEP such records back in the days of mccoot’s birth?
Pedant
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:28 am | Permalink
“If the GOP is still shooting “Obama’s fake birth certificate” and “Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist” bullets at Obama, hopefully that is easily marginalized.”
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You’re way behind now, Pedant! We now have naked pictures of Obama’s mama! Taken by his ‘real daddy’!
Hell, did they even KEEP such records back in the days of mccoot’s birth?
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Of course, he is listed in the bible. ;)
“Box–
I’m not the one who’s so scared of walking around in America, he has to tote a gun.”
Hoaxlock must be afraid he’ll be attacked by a crazed Obama supporter who will “mutilate” him with a spoon or a pencil eraser.
You DO mean to follow up that story you broke here yesterday don’t you Box?
And outlander? That pic you brought here to support it. WHO took that?
Jesus Christ was McCain’s guidance counselor at summer camp.
BlueJay mentioned last night’s SNL. Don’t wait until Saturday. See it NOW!
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/update-thursday-bush-endorsement/783981/
Heheheh. Now WHY am I not surprised that a website called fairtax.org would have opinions and stuff supporting the fair tax.
here’s a news flash. The DNC website has opinions and stuff that say democrats are waaaaay better than republicans.
There’s no substance to that letter proving ANY of it would work. It’s the opinion of some folks who support the fair tax.
As Gomer would say “surprise, surprise surprise!”
McCain’s birth certificate can be seen here:
http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=1293
BlueJay, all the major news networks reported on the story last night.
“Yeah it’s just a forum, I’ll keep looking and bring you more.”
Heckler must be off searching for “more”. Sure is taking a long time…
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:45 am | Permalink
McCain’s birth certificate can be seen here:
http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=1293
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HA! Now THAT’s funny, I dont care who ya are!
I guess that would be the “vault” copy? Heheheh.
Anti we had U-verse hooked up on Sept. 4th. Really like it but have had a few problems with the phone part. It sometimes hangs up on our callers. We got a $200 rebate just for signing up online. They sent us two visa cards with $100 on each of them. A little Christmas money.
I was also on dish and by the time we paid for the extra receivers we needed we are paying about the same. Will go down after the Dec changes as Linda noted. We also had to buy the Sports channels and that is $10 extra a month but we get pro and college sports from all over.
You have to have fiber optic phone lines in your area to be able to hook up to it.
HLP, I certainly HOPE the gop continues to pursue those strategies to get mccoot into the white house.
Please continue. Pretty please?
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:03 am | Permalink
The Dow is set to open at 8200.
Man, things haven’t been this bad since Bush’s first full year in office . . .
And ya gotta love McSame bleating over and over again, “I’m NOT BUSH. I’m NOT BUSH.”
So, who’s do you hate, CONs? Bush or McCain?
Because according to McCain, Bush is bad.
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But isn’t this a self-indictment, since McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time in the last 8 years. Does anyone in the McCain camp have their head out of their asses? Doesn’t appear so to me.
“Does anyone in the McCain camp have their head out of their asses?”
I think they like the view. I hear Bible Spice can see Russia from there….
You have to have fiber optic phone lines in your area to be able to hook up to it.
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Well farts! I know we don’t have FO lines in my area….I’ll just put that on the ‘wait list’.
cons this ones fer u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sep27sMmG-0
This is so much fun, I’ve worked up an appetite. Where’s Monkeyhawk so I can rub it in that I’m going to fry up some bacon and then cook runny eggs in the grease and eat it all with hot buttered toast. Wash it down with cajun coffee and heavy cream, mi cher!
I’ll need CPR in 3…2…1….
Loved what someone sent me this morning. This is Obama’s economic plan in action.
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Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
annie_moose, do you work for YouTube?
HLP
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:43 am | Permalink
You’re way behind now, Pedant! We now have naked pictures of Obama’s mama! Taken by his ‘real daddy’!
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I saw ‘em! Whoda thunk communism is genetic?
The intarnetwebs are amazin’!
“I know we don’t have FO lines in my area”
Really? I live 20 miles from the nearest town, ten miles from the nearest paved road, and three miles from my nearest neighbor. And I have had fiber optics to my door for years.
Hell, even the chickens have high speed internet!
Correct, Steven!
I’m still trying to get the CON message figured out–according to Regular, Boxie, Heckler, OkObserver, outlander, Nathan and Hank, Bush was a great president.
But still they support the candidate who makes it clear that HE IS NOT BUSH (i.e., he opposes Bush’s policies).
I guess tolerance to hold two completely diametrically opposing positions is what one has to do to call himself a CON these days.
But don’t call it “moral relativism” or anything like that.
“I saw ‘em! Whoda thunk communism is genetic?”
Didnt we read recently that the need for religion is hard wired? Does that make it genetic?
In that case, I’m damn thankful I’m adopted!
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink
“I know we don’t have FO lines in my area”
Really? I live 20 miles from the nearest town, ten miles from the nearest paved road, and three miles from my nearest neighbor. And I have had fiber optics to my door for years.
Hell, even the chickens have high speed internet!
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Freaking extraterrestrial alien collaborator!!!
KFG
http://www.house.gov/jec/cost-gov/regs/eti/grab.htm
Boortz also wrote about it in one of his books.
Hillary and Robert Reich were considering a one-time 15% tax on all 401k accounts AND pension funds.
And kansas will fall for it.
Electoral Vote (http://electoral-vote.com) puts Kansas at Obama 41%, McCain 53%. Even in Kansas, McCain can’t do as well as Bush did in 2000 and 2004, while Obama is doing better than Kerry in 2004, Gore in 2000, Clinton in 1996 and 1992.
2004: Kerry 34% Bush 66%
2000: Gore 38% Bush 60%
1996: Clinton 40% Bush 48%
1992: Clinton 34% Bush 43%
There’s hope for this state yet, ksfarmgrrl.
Regular opines:
You see that big empty space on the certificate?
That’s where the seal and the signature of the notary goes.
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OMGorsh, you’re right! You should write for the LA Times because no one of their crack legal staff noticed this.
In fact, no one in the country seems to have noticed it except for some wacked-out far-right websites.
But I shouldn’t trust major newspapers all across the country. I should trust a semi-recluse who lives with his sister in Wichita.
hehehe
Hell, most of the time I have two guns with me! I still carry my Kimber Ultra Carry II but I realized it’s a little much for varmits.
I do everything I can to eliminate skunks, racoons and other little nocturnal varmits I see in the light of day at the stables. I now also carry a Beretta U22 Neos for varmits.
I can kill a skunk in the duck pen without bowing the feathers off the ducks!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_U22_Neos
Thanx Annie. Seether rocks.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink
“I know we don’t have FO lines in my area”
Really? I live 20 miles from the nearest town, ten miles from the nearest paved road, and three miles from my nearest neighbor. And I have had fiber optics to my door for years.
Hell, even the chickens have high speed internet!
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Yes, I know they are common in your area KFG. I used to do a lot of Road and Bridge construction Inspection in that part of the state…..It cost BIG Bucks when a contractor cuts an FO line and someone usually gets fired!
This is why I am surprised that I don’t have close access to a line where I live…but this is Sedgwick Co. after all!
Steven just a clarification for you. Bush doesn’t vote in the senate. Give a source for this 90% vote thing you guys keep throwing around.
Leftist logic: Throw it against the wall 3 times and it becomes fact. You guys have thrown that one around alot and still no substantiation.
At least Obama is consistent. He has a real problem with truth. He says he voted against the Iraq war. He was a state senator when that vote was taken. He did however vote not to fund our troops who were fighting a war. But we all know truth isn’t his strong suit. Afterall he lied to 50 million viewers, you would be included in that, during the last debate. McCain directly asked if his political career was launched in Ayers living room. He lied and said NO.
The outgoing senator he was hoping to replace ‘introduced him to the demo party at a meeting in the living room of *Bill Ayers*. This according to the women he was replacing. Truth isn’t in the man. Glad he is your candidate.
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink
Regular opines:
You see that big empty space on the certificate?
That’s where the seal and the signature of the notary goes.
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OMGorsh, you’re right! You should write for the LA Times because no one of their crack legal staff noticed this.
In fact, no one in the country seems to have noticed it except for some wacked-out far-right websites.
But I shouldn’t trust major newspapers all across the country. I should trust a semi-recluse who lives with his sister in Wichita.
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Maybe I should.
Anyone with half a brain knows that in order for a birth certificate to be accepted for purposes of a passport or in a court of law, it has to be a vault copy that is certified and signed by a notary or local legal authority.
A hospital certificate printed out on a laser is not a certified copy.
“Box–
I’m not the one who’s so scared of walking around in America, he has to tote a gun.”
—-Capn
And neither do I, but I am responsible, and my CCW shows that not only I, but society and law enforcement think so too, and my ‘record’ and ‘history’ show that as well.
Can’t say that now can ya about yourself Capn.
It takes a thoughtful commitment and acceptance of responsibility to get a CCW, something most DimLibs simply aren’t capable of from what I’ve seen.
The reason they are so against CCW is they know they can not make that commitment or accept that responsibility and think everyone else is no more capable and able than themselves. But….they are wrong.
After the Obama campaign released a copy of the birth certificate, however, Politifact says they went a step further: “We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real. ‘It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,’ spokesman Janice Okubo told us.”
Politifact says, “When the official documents were questioned, we went looking for more answers.” “If this document is forged,” Politifact says, “a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (ILL.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.”
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They got nothing.
I think I’ll play Bill Kirchen’s “Too Much Fun” while I eat breakfast.
I saw him do it live in Austin a few years ago.
Should be our theme song here.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:54 am | Permalink
This is so much fun, I’ve worked up an appetite. Where’s Monkeyhawk so I can rub it in that I’m going to fry up some bacon and then cook runny eggs in the grease and eat it all with hot buttered toast. Wash it down with cajun coffee and heavy cream, mi cher!
I’ll need CPR in 3…2…1….
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Good morning Farm Lady!
Duck eggs! I’m getting so many duck eggs that we’re starting to pickle them!
Three duck eggs over easy, sausage from the butcher shop in Lucas, Kansas, homemade biscuits with homemade sand plum jelly, real grits, (not instant) mmmm, mmmm, mmmm.
Anti yes
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McCain’s song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sep27sMmG-0
crank it up
I am responsible, and my CCW shows that not only I, but society and law enforcement think so too, and my ‘record’ and ‘history’ show that as well.
Can’t say that now can ya about yourself Capn.
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I most certainly can. I don’t need a CCW permit to prove I am a responsible, law-abiding citizen.
Where do you get off questioning my “record” and “history”?
Save your judgmental scorn for poor people and minorities . . . your usual targets.
It’s too late for any of your lying smears to work…
annie_moose
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink
Anti yes
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Sounds fun, got any job openings? ;)
Anyone with half a brain knows that in order for a birth certificate to be accepted for purposes of a passport or in a court of law, it has to be a vault copy that is certified and signed by a notary or local legal authority.
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Bullsh! t. Prove it.
DavidB
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:10 am | Permalink
It’s too late for any of your lying smears to work…
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DavidB is an Islamic Terrorist baby eater!!!
…..anything?
Oh, and btw, dumbass,
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
KFG
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:8Jk_JkvpmzQJ:www.businessweek.com/archives/1995/b342653.arc.htm+%22one+time+tax+on+pension%22+-rebate&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
Sen. John McCain has improved his odds of capturing one of Florida’s most competitive counties at the same time a crucial Ohio battleground seems increasingly out of reach, according to a new Politico/InsiderAdvantage poll.
While Sen. Barack Obama has widened his lead in Ohio’s Franklin County, where Columbus is located, McCain has gained ground in Hillsborough County, which includes the city of Tampa and is one of the Sunshine State’s most competitive areas.
McCain trails Obama in Hillsborough by just two points, 46 percent to 44 percent. That represents a four-point improvement for McCain since Politico’s last Hillsborough survey, conducted October 12, which showed Obama leading 47 percent to 41 percent.
But Obama has strengthened his standing in Ohio’s Franklin County, where he currently holds an 11-point lead over McCain, outpacing the Republican nominee by 51 percent to 40 percent. Politico’s previous poll of Franklin County, conducted October 13, showed a closer race there, with Obama ahead by just five percentage points, 45 percent to 40 percent.
“Three duck eggs over easy, sausage from the butcher shop in Lucas, Kansas, homemade biscuits with homemade sand plum jelly, real grits, (not instant) mmmm, mmmm, mmmm.”
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!! You win!!!!!!!!!!!
Lucas sausage and sand plum jelly?
I’m on my way….
the stock market
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVuUfTNFNhk
Gee, it looks like Obama’s birth certificate has a seal after all.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
“We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it’s stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates).”
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
You can see the photographs of the gosh-darn RAISED STAMP clearly on their website.
I AWAIT YOUR APOLOGY FOR WILLFULLY LYING ABOUT OBAMA, REGULAR.
Sorry Capn, I didn’t read before I posted.
Welcome back.
From Heckie’s link. A failed nominee? Heheheheheh
“In 1992, Munnell proposed lowering taxes with a one-time tax on pension funds”
Still no link to where Bill Clinton actually proposed such a thing…
Keep looking!
Yeah, no sh! t, XXX.
This is the kind of crap they pull though, isn’t it.
It stinks to high heaven.
And don’t hold your breath on getting a well-deserved apology for passing on LIES without checking them out.
sarah palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfT3n_vSnso
McCain’s song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sep27sMmG-0
crank it up
A rerun so early?
Papa Roach rocks too :~D
And from your house.gov link? Heheheh. A republican committee screed of opinion? HAHAHAHAHAH
“Many experts believe the final stage and the ultimate objective of the Clinton Administration is to implement a five to ten percent quota on private pension funds.”
Quotas are not taxes. And Clinton didnt propose it, nor did Reich.
Keep looking heckie. And remember, I’ll actually READ the link.
Boortz? heheheh. HAHAHAHAHAH. From townhall? Or freeperville? Source please?
Courtney Love???
You blew it.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:57 am | Permalink
“I saw ‘em! Whoda thunk communism is genetic?”
Didnt we read recently that the need for religion is hard wired? Does that make it genetic?
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No clue, religion is far above my pay grade.
However, there are other needs that I KNOW are hard wired, ahem. :D
For example, has anybody read Kathleen Parkers latest? I’m thinking the 28%-ers are gonna be doin’ some S E R I O U S birth cerfiticate work on ‘ol Kathy after this one:
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“…McCain had met Palin only once — in February, at the governors’ convention in Washington — before the day he selected her as his running mate. The second time was at his Sedona, Ariz., ranch on Aug. 28, just four days before the GOP convention.
As Draper tells it, McCain took Palin to his favorite coffee-drinking spot down by a creek and a sycamore tree. They talked for more than an hour, and, as Napoleon whispered to Josephine, “Voilà.”
One does not have to be a psychoanalyst to reckon that McCain was smitten. By no means am I suggesting anything untoward between McCain and his running mate. Palin is a governor, after all. She does have an executive résumé, if a thin one. And she’s a natural politician who connects with people.
But there can be no denying that McCain’s selection of her over others far more qualified — and his mind-boggling lack of attention to details that matter — suggests other factors at work. His judgment may have been clouded by . . . what?”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102302489.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
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LOL
Ok, the bacon’s about to burn. Gotta go!
What will Obama do?
Talk to Ahmadinejad about the bad treatment of women there? Make friends with people like this?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443831,00.html
CAIRO, Egypt — An American university student in Iran to visit family and research women’s rights has been arrested and held in prison for more than a week, rights group Amnesty International said.
Esha Momeni, a student at California State University, Northridge, was driving on a highway in Tehran when she was stopped by authorities who said they were traffic police, the London-based Amnesty said.
Iranian officials said Momeni was arrested Oct. 15 for a traffic offense. But Amnesty said in a statement Tuesday she was taken to her family’s home where her computer and other materials related to her research on the Iranian women’s movement were confiscated.
Momeni, who is a member of the California branch of Change for Equality — an Iranian women’s rights group — was later taken to Evin prison, the Tehran facility notorious for holding political prisoners, Amnesty said.
Courtney Love???
You blew it.
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Yes…she did…
Wow, it sure got quiet from Regular’s corner, didn’t it.
Smacking down right wing lies . . . so many lies, so little time.
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink
Yeah, no sh! t, XXX.
This is the kind of crap they pull though, isn’t it.
It stinks to high heaven.
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Yup! No issues, just a continuous $hit-storm.
It truly amazes me that some people have spent so much time questioning Obama’s birth certificate, based on a weird, unsupported fear of him being foreign-born, all the while knowing that John McCain was born in Panama.
What is wrong with these people?
Sending the troops home would do wonders for our economy!!! We should support them 100%.
Iraqis Protest Draft of Troop Agreement
In Iraq, protests continue against the proposed security pact that would allow US forces to stay in Iraq for at least three more years. On Thursday, lawmakers with the Sadr bloc held a sit-in against the current proposals.
Fawzi Akram: “It is a clear message to the Iraqi government, US government, the occupation and to all the honest and patriotic people who work for the sake of Iraq’s unity, land, people, flag and sovereignty, those who work for what is right and just, to join us and make Iraq’s sovereignty and national interest above all.”
The draft calls for a full US withdrawal by 2012, but leaves open the possibility of a later date. US soldiers would also retain immunity from prosecution for all actions except those committed “off-duty” and not in combat. Critics have dismissed the provision, because US troops seldom leave their bases in Iraq unless on authorized missions.
Mom & Dad @ breakfast…
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/316898/deer_for_breakfast_in_texas/
sorry McCain’s Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU_JyGBDeIc
http://yoke.cc/handart.htm
Damned hippies probably got gvmt. grants.
Rage–
It’s called “grasping at straws,” along with ad hominem and red herring.
If Regular had any integrity he would
1. apologize for posting misinformation that can be easily checked
2. rebuke all the people that have been posting these falsehoods (that is, his right-wing pals)
3. consider that maybe a lot of the other facts coming from these sources are bullsh! t too.
Be we all know nothing like that is going to happen, don’t we.
Because Regular and his right-wing pals have ZERO INTEGRITY.
“…Then there are those conservatives who see Palin as a “fatal cancer to the Republican Party” (David Brooks), as someone who “doesn’t know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin” (Kathleen Parker), as “a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics” (Peggy Noonan).
These conservatives deserve credit for acknowledging how ill-suited Palin is for high office. But what we see here is a deep split between parts of the conservative elite and much of the rank and file.
For years, many of the elite conservatives were happy to harvest the votes of devout Christians and gun owners by waging a phony class war against “liberal elitists” and “leftist intellectuals.” Suddenly, the conservative writers are discovering that the very anti-intellectualism their side courted and encouraged has begun to consume their movement.
The cause of Edmund Burke, Leo Strauss, Robert Nisbet and William F. Buckley Jr. is now in the hands of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity — and Sarah Palin. Reason has been overwhelmed by propaganda, ideas by slogans, learned manifestoes by direct-mail hit pieces.”
–EJ Dionne, today’s Wapo
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102302869.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
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No $hit, Sherlock.
I’m going to try to post the photo of the raised seal from the FactCheck website.
I probably won’t work but am giving it a try anyway–
Blowup of certificate number
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We must be tolerant of people like those in Iran, those with different cultures, and those with different religious beliefs.
Diversity -
Embrace it! And welcome it to America!
A Kenyan Kustom (Explains why Michelle is SO ANGRY?)
http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_cirm.htm
Debate Among Muslims:
FGM is a social custom, not a religious practice. However, in those Muslim countries where it is practice, FGM is often justified by a controversial saying attributed to the Prophet Mohammed that seem to favor sunna circumcision involving minor cutting of the clitoris. The authenticity of these sayings are unconfirmed, and some scholars have refuted them. Even if true, they only permit the practice; they do not mandate it.
FGM has probably been performed for at least 1,400 years (some references estimate 2,000 years), and started during what Muslims call “al-gahiliyyah” (the era of ignorance). The Qu’r'an, Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) and Christian Scriptures (New Testament) is silent on the subject. The Sunnah (the words and actions of the Prophet Mohammed) contains a reference to female circumcision.
Such a Special Ceremony, soon coming to America!
Inside a Female-Circumcision Ceremony
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/01/20/magazine/20080120_CIRCUMCISION_SLIDESHOW_index.html
Nope . . . funny how the editors claim they can’t control this place but they sure figured out how to keep people from posting pictures, didn’t they.
Free speech rights don’t cover photos apparently . . .
I must say, for CapnAmerica to call anyone down for a falsehood takes a lot of audacity, since he will slip a falsehood or a halftruth into most every post he makes. But for CapnAmerica, the end justifies the means.
A sad state of affairs.
message to the middle class from u know who
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZPphcohPU
Puddle of Mudd. Back on track…
Female Circumcision Comes to America
Performed by new immigrants, veiled in deference to a cultural tradition of the developing world, female circumcision is becoming an American problem
http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/flashbks/fgm/fgm.htm
Check out these video ads for Barack Obama airing in Florida that were produced by the Jewish Alliance, particularly the first one. SOOOO funny.
http://jews4change.com/videos.php
The idea that the GREATEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD were ever going to break for John McCain and the Republican Party was laughable on its face, and is now solidly refuted by the numbers: Jews prefer Obama over McCain 3-1, 74% to 22%.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111424/Obama-Winning-Over-Jewish-Vote.aspx
Oh, and that margin is only six points below Gore-Lieberman (80%-20%)–a ticket which featured an actual Jew.
CF2K the half-Jew is in his happy place this Friday.
Max, you are such a tool.
There’s not a liberal in the entire country that claims that we should “tolerate” hold down a screaming child and cutting off her clitoris.
Mein Gott, man. If liberals believed half of what you claim they believe, I’d hate them too instead of being one.
Rage–
It’s called “grasping at straws,” along with ad hominem and red herring.
Actually, I suppose I was being a little rhetorical. I had a good idea what Regular, Franklin and whoever else brought up that dumb non-story had in mind.
Leaving aside the distraction from McCain’s foreign birth (which no one’s really made an issue), it’s all part of the same crap that gave us “Hussein Osama Obama.” It’s the bone-in-the-nose, big ol’ scary black man comin’ from the jungle to assault our women and eat our children!
At least, that’s the only way to make (bad) sense of it. Either way, they’re insane.
acorns response
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs37NSLy3z4
Another Bush administration official endorses Obama:
http://www.kansas.com/wireupdates/story/571138.html
Former Bush press secretary backs Obama
By DAVID BAUDER
AP Television Writer
NEW YORK – Scott McClellan, President Bush’s former press secretary who angered old colleagues with a tell-all book earlier this year, said Thursday he is backing Barack Obama for president.
McClellan is the second former administration official to back the Democratic candidate this week. Former Secretary of State Colin Powell came out Sunday for Obama.
While Powell chose “Meet the Press” to make his news, McClellan did it at the taping of comedian D.L. Hughley’s new talk show, which is premiering 10 p.m. Saturday on CNN.
Hughley found a little begging helped.
“We are a new show and your endorsement would probably mean a lot,” Hughley said. “But don’t look at the fact that I am black or, no pressure. Endorse somebody, damn it!”
McClellan, who was Bush’s chief spokesman from July 2003 to April 2006, said he’s always planned to support the candidate that has the best chance for changing the way Washington works and getting things done.
“I will be voting for Barack Obama,” he said.
McClellan is also giving an extended interview on “Larry King Live” on Friday to talk about his endorsement.
McClellan grew disillusioned after leaving the administration and wrote a book, “What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception,” that surprised many for its blunt talk. He admitted to being part of a White House effort to shade the truth about the case for war in Iraq.
The White House said Bush was surprised and saddened about the book.
Scott McClellan
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Shocker!!! That’s news Ben? I took that as a given…
SolDevVB
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink
Mom & Dad @ breakfast…
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/316898/deer_for_breakfast_in_texas/
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LOL
Is this a great country or WHAT?
KFG
http://www.house.gov/jec/cost-gov/regs/eti/quotes.htm
Scott McClellan just did it because he’s black.
CF2K–
In my wildest dreams, I didn’t think Obama would have Penn, Ohio, AND Florida almost sewn up fully 12 days before the election.
And now Indiana–INDIANA, fer gosh sakes–is trending toward Obama.
Not only that, but McCain is running on empty and the donations are pouring in to Obama’s campaign.
Obama’s speaking for a full HALF HOUR of paid network time this Wednesday.
Oh well, at least McCain knows well how to crash and burn.
SolDevVB
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink
Mom & Dad @ breakfast…
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Huh, Food eating Food.
Those deer look delicious!
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:45 am | Permalink
Scott McClellan just did it because he’s black.
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No!! Scott did it because Obama’s white.
Twisted Sister? Remembering high school now…
KFG
The pension bandits are on the loose – Bill Clinton’s economic proposals to tax pension contributions and investment earnings – Column
Insight on the News, March 15, 1993 by Paul Craig Roberts
President Clinton is proposing to grab $450 billion of our accumulated private pension fund assets, thereby seriously reducing our living standards during retirement. In addition, he is proposing to make us pay income tax on both annual contributions to our pensions and earnings of the pension investments.
To carry off his scheme, he has nominated a vociferous advocate of pension taxation, Alicia Munnell, to be assistant Treasury secretary for econornic policy. Munnell believes that the United States does not invest enough in public works projects and that part of our pensions should be confiscated to pay for more federal boondoggles.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_/ai_13633179
SolDevVB
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:48 am | Permalink
Twisted Sister? Remembering high school now…
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Ole Dee defined ‘ugly’. I still like that guy, quite a character.
Cap’N,
Steady as she goes. That margin needs to be wider so as to offset any electoral Repuking.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-dinges/mccain-meets-a-bloody-dic_b_137422.html
John McCain Meets with War Criminals and Terrorists Wanted By the US
John McCain, who has harshly criticized the idea of sitting down with dictators without pre-conditions, appears to have done just that. In 1985, McCain traveled to Chile for a friendly meeting with Chile’s military ruler, General Augusto Pinochet, one of the world’s most notorious violators of human rights credited with killing more than 3,000 civilians and jailing tens of thousands of others.
The private meeting between McCain and dictator Pinochet has gone previously un-reported anywhere.
According to a declassified U.S. Embassy cable secured by The Huffington Post, McCain described the meeting with Pinochet “as friendly and at times warm, but noted that Pinochet does seem obsessed with the threat of communism.” McCain, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee at the time, made no public or private statements critical of the dictatorship, nor did he meet with members of the democratic opposition in Chile, as far as could be determined from a thorough check of U.S. and Chilean newspaper records and interviews with top opposition leaders.
At the time of the meeting, in the late afternoon of December 30, the U.S. Justice Department was seeking the extradition of two close Pinochet associates for an act of terrorism in Washington DC, the 1976 assassination of former ambassador to the U.S. and former Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier. The car bombing on Sheridan Circle in the U.S. capital was widely described at the time as the most egregious act of international terrorism perpetrated on U.S. soil by a foreign power.
(more at link)
she was a queen for about an hour
for sarah p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe0Za0-4srY
Dee be ugly fo sho. But he did a good job as a DJ/VJ.
Hey Farm Girl,
There’s a BBQ place in Missouri, called Strawberry’s. If you ever get a chance to be within a hundred miles or so of there, go. Eat. Best BBQ I’ve had in a long time.
And, when you’re paying your bill, ask them to sell ya 10 or 20 pounds of their sausage. They don’t advertise it, ya gotta ask. Best sausage I’ve ever had!
We’ll be there in December for a herding trial so I’ll be able to thaw out my last two pounds and eat it next month!
The McCainiacs’ latest ploy:
Satan!
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/23/jpinkerton_1023/
Oh well, at least McCain knows well how to crash and burn.
Haha, good line!
secured by The Huffington Post,
Yeah. Stopped reading right about there.
Agreed Sol. Dee’s personality reminds me of a less erratic, toned down, Ted Nugent.
http://www.strawsbbq.com/Strawberrys.pdf
hehehe
KFG
Prior to the 1994 elections, I was concerned about some of the signals that indicated that Clinton might try to confiscate private pensions for political purposes. After the elections, it seemed to me that Clinton would not be able to get away with any new regulations or laws that would give the government more control over your private retirement savings.
If Clinton wins the 1996 election and if there is a shift back to a Democratic majority in both houses, I would regard that as a serious “fire alarm”. The plans to raid pension assets that were put into the “deep freeze” after the 1994 election would most certainly be put back onto the “front burner”. If the Democrats regain control of the Congress and the Administration, it would be time for prompt action to preserve your retirement assets.
http://www.rpifs.com/lawsuits/ap9512.htm
Wow, still nothing from Regular.
Who knew he’d take getting caught in a lie so hard . . . I mean after all the practice he’s had at it . . .
Capn posts,
“I most certainly can. I don’t need a CCW permit to prove I am a responsible, law-abiding citizen.
Where do you get off questioning my “record” and “history”?
Save your judgmental scorn for poor people and minorities . . . your usual targets.”
And how are you going to prove that, you’ve offered nothing of proof. I’m not accusing you of anything, but by the same token I have nothing to lead me to believe you are responsible either. Certainly your posts don’t reflect that.
You know much more about me than I you.
As a CCW holder I:
..Have NO felony convictions
..Have NEVER been convicted of domestic violence
..Have NO history of mental illness
..Have passed a thorough background check by both the sheriff’s office and the KBI
..Have passed mandatory State training in both the use of a firearm and the applicable law.
I don’t know those things about you.
And, I do not “scorn poor people and minorities”, I scorn anyone that isn’t responsible and wants to parasite off others in society. That’s all!
Hank – that would feed me for a week!
YUMMY!
All I know is that you claim to hold a CCW permit on an anonymous chat blog, Boxlock.
Same as what you know about me.
for maxie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp9852hq0W0
“…McCain plans in the closing days to focus on taxes and spending, national security, and what one adviser called “the perils of an Obama presidency with no checks and balances.”
The campaign will point to congressional Democrats’ claims about the agenda they plan in the new Congress, Obama’s “spread the wealth” remark to “Joe the Plumber” and Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s comment that his running mate would be tested internationally early in his presidency.
“We will focus like a laser on those messages in the closing days,” said the McCain adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk about strategy. …”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102303806.html?hpid=topnews
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uh huh.
Translation: the nuttiness will get nuttier.
What happens when you shoot your laser beam at a mirror? I think Palin/McCain are about to find out…
Heck, for god’s sake, quoting guys like newtie does NOT make it true. Look at the letterhead of what you cite. Do you see ANY Democrats there?
Didnt think so.
house.gov does NOT make it non partisan. These are damn opinions of the GOP leadership.
WTF is so hard to understand about that?
If anyone is in doubt, click on heckie’s link’s and see for yourself.
“What happens when you shoot your laser beam at a mirror?”
Uh, I know! You look like Cindy “laser eyes” McCain?
do I need a ccw for these guns (super-flex)?
hee hee heee Pedant. I saw yesterday that liddy dole is conceding an obama presidency, and in her desperation to win her losing battle, she’s saying they should vote for her so the democrats dont control both houses of congress and the presidency.
heheheheh.
“Turn out the lights, the party’s over…”
Of course, Diebold will have the final say.
“All I know is that you claim to hold a CCW permit on an anonymous chat blog, Boxlock.”
heheheh
Just like he/she CLAIMS to own a business.
And we should take his/her word?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
You look like Cindy “laser eyes” McCain?
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Ah, you know you’d tap that ass KFG!
Besides, I’m not against CC really. I might get one myself just for the heck of it. It’s like CPR training–good to know.
I’m just against the simple-minded clap-trap of the NRA types who think that the 2nd amendment is the only amendment in the Constitution or that the 2nd amendment “protects” all our other freedoms.
The 2nd amendment didn’t stop huge multinational investment banks from stealing us blind. Hell, they’re still doing it. It doesn’t stop off shoring of jobs and tax breaks for the corporations that do it.
The biggest expense we Americans bear is our military, and the NRA types LOVE IT because people get to carry guns.
That’s the only explanation for their love affair with big government welfare-for-the-rich which is officially called “military procurement.”
a message from the RNC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7dR8-3Nc0M&NR=1
heckie, do you even read your own links?
“Addendum: This report was written in late 1995, well before the 1996 elections. His administration did make some forays into mandated investments for pension funds, but nothing came of it.”
Jesus WEPT!
So now, instead of the bogus “tax 401k’s” you are switching subjects to pensions and them being “confiscated” or the equally bogus “mandated investments”?
Is there some part of “nothing came of it” from a WINGNUT website no less, that you dont understand?
we wouldn’t need to spend so much on the military if the 2nd amendment was implemented as intended (and I could get my own fully loaded F16)
Red Rider and the Nuge? Showing your age annie?
“Ah, you know you’d tap that ass KFG!”
No WAY!!!!!!!
I have steak at home. Why would I go for a skinny burger out?
Now I MIGHT tap into her wealth. But the other?
Ewwwwww.
I knowingly “tapped” a republican woman only once.
Boooooorrrring.
brian_nuevo
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:16 am | Permalink
we wouldn’t need to spend so much on the military if the 2nd amendment was implemented as intended (and I could get my own fully loaded F16)
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Hey, get in line A-Hole!!! ;)
I was just rattlin’ your cage KFG.
heh, probably.
I swear, watching the Palin/McCain ticket right now is like watching one of those America’s funniest home videos where a lap animal is swatting at a reflection of itself in the mirror, and mistaking it for reality.
These guys have spent so much effort in creating a fake domestic enemy in Obama and the Democrats, and howling enraged against their own fake creation, now the reality-based community watches on in horrified/bemused amazement while they willingly self-destruct.
It’s like my parents used to tell me, “if you’d put all the energy you put into thinking of ways to avoid chores INTO the actual chore itself, you’d be finished in no time.” If they’d put half the energy into governing that they put into creating and killing off fake Democrat enemies, they’d probably be a viable political party today.
GOP ca2008: needing a mommy figure to help ‘em step through their shadow boxing.
Just saw on the news that most, infact almost all, over 90% of the absentee ballots in Virgina won’t be counted if the person over this process has his way. This is the same person that has attempted to allow felons to register.
The ones in question are from Americans overseas. Almost all of them are military. The polls show these ballots are overwhelming, over 67%, for McCain.
I am sure everyone is incensed over this outrage.
okobserver
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:01 am | Permalink
Steven just a clarification for you. Bush doesn’t vote in the senate. Give a source for this 90% vote thing you guys keep throwing around.
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Granny,
Please tell me you are not as stupid as your posts.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_john_mccain_voted_with.html
we wouldn’t need to spend so much on the military if the 2nd amendment
And if we followed our forefather’s advice –
Trade with all nations. Alliance with none.
Pedant it sounds as if you came from a family that recognized hard work and how we benefit from it. I’m sure they tried to raise you to appreciate this also. What went wrong?
HLP, regarding Strawberry’s, reminds me of the Georgia Satellites.
“Well have the slaw burger, fries and a bottle of Ski, BRING it on out to my baby and me!”
Sol I’m old but I still rock just like you do my brother
okobserver
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:21 am | Permalink
Pedant it sounds as if you came from a family that recognized hard work and how we benefit from it. I’m sure they tried to raise you to appreciate this also. What went wrong?
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Heroin.
“It’s like my parents used to tell me, “if you’d put all the energy you put into thinking of ways to avoid chores INTO the actual chore itself, you’d be finished in no time.”
HA!
My folks used to say it was a good thing I was smart because they knew I’d be too lazy to actually work for a living…
okobserver, is this what you posted about above?
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/virginia_miliary_absentee_ball.php
If the author is right, it looks like the problem may be resolved.
Steven I have always tried to treat you as if you have a brain. It is hard at times. Bush didn’t vote so therefore McCain didn’t vote WITH him. McCain has had a history of not voting with the republicans as your link pointed out.
McCain did indeed earn his maverick nickname. He voted his convictions and not ‘present’.
Please tell me you aren’t as dumb as you sound at times.
I know ANTI, but it doesnt change the facts.
“I knowingly “tapped” a republican woman only once.
Boooooorrrring.”
farmgrrl, you will appreciate this one. I just heard McCain speaking in Colorado about the River Pact and he promised them Colorado would be keeping its water when he is pres. I know nothing about that River Pact, but I’m betting you do. Maybe has something to do with Kansas not getting water, hu?
“…Still, the McCain team has no illusions about the situation, knowing that the environment is extraordinarily difficult for a Republican.
The depth of their challenge was made plain yesterday by eight surveys produced by the Big Ten Battleground Poll. Obama not only leads in all eight Midwestern states by hefty margins but has improved his standing since the last time the group surveyed these states.
The numbers are startling. Obama leads by 12 points in Ohio, 11 in Pennsylvania and 13 in Wisconsin. In Michigan, where McCain’s campaign has pulled out, Obama’s lead is 22 points. In Indiana, a strong red state, his lead is 10 points, larger than in other recent polls.
Quinnipiac University also released polls yesterday from Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida that show Obama leading in all three. In these surveys, his lead in Pennsylvania is 13 points. In Ohio, which is a must-win for McCain, Obama’s lead is 14 points.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102303806.html?hpid=topnews
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Wow.
Well put okobserver, but I’m afraid you are talking to someone as dumb, and thick as a rock.
Yes VT it was. Glad to see this outrage wasn’t allowed to stand.
Jesus grmie, there’s been a video of mcsame SAYING he’s voted WITH bush more than ninety percent of the time. He also notes that’s more than most of his republican fellows.
McSAME said it himself!
Split hairs much?
“CapnAmerica” shares –
“I’m just against the simple-minded clap-trap of the NRA types….”
Ain’t that the truth!
The sorry truth is the NRA is simply a marketing arm of the firearms industry.
John Lott’s “study’ was funded by the Olin Foundation, built on the profits of the ammunition subsidiary of Whichester.
And when it came to Concealed Carry, the NRA dropped all its decades of railing against registering guns and gun-owners, just to get fuzzy-toothed rednecks to buy more guns.
Gun Owners of America is at least sincere in their constitutional arguments. Crazy, but sincere.
The NRA is simply another form of advertising.
Not that the strategy is intrinsically wrong. AARP serves the same purpose for what is basically an insurance company. But at leaster they’re open and honest about it.
if all else fails we can always
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNb8po-ufu8
Linda, that fight has been going on for decades! In G.C., when it is rumored that there is water in the river, people actually go down to take a picture of the 2 foot wide stream that usually stops before leaving town.
When I was a kid, my dad and I used to canoe on that river. As a teen and an adult I rode dirt bikes on that same ‘river’.
Boxlock, I have a lunch date and have to run. I hate to leave Steven alone though. Could you continue his education. Maybe keep him away from sharp corners and objects.
Thanks
Well, ANTI, it sounds like McCain has “that fight” solved! That should win him Colorado, don’t you think?
Linda, Colorado has EVERYTHING to do with western Kansas not getting it’s allotment of water from the Ark. Just like Nebraska has EVERYTHING to do with us not getting our allotment of water from the Republican River. The Federal Courts have sided repeatedly with Kansas.
But the pact he is talking about is the Colorado River on the western slopes. It’s a pact with Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Arizona and California.
Earlier in the campaign, mccoot stepped in it and said he supported breaking that pact and essentially letting Arizona and California have all of Colorado’s water that they want. Of course, that’s before he knew the election might hinge on Colorado.
heheheh. He’s crawfishin’ as fast as he can!
“Linda, that fight has been going on for decades! In G.C., when it is rumored that there is water in the river, people actually go down to take a picture of the 2 foot wide stream that usually stops before leaving town.”
That’s why Colorado stepped up early to get dibs on the power produced by the proposed water sucking Holcomb coal fired plant.
They dont want to use THEIR water to generate their own power. This way? They get TWO bites at the water apple.
So, who keeps the water depends on where he is speaking? OK, I understand. There are other topics and issues he treats the same way.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:28 am | Permalink
Jesus grmie, there’s been a video of mcsame SAYING he’s voted WITH bush more than ninety percent of the time. He also notes that’s more than most of his republican fellows.
McSAME said it himself!
Split hairs much?
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farmie which part of what I posted did you have a problem with? Agree vs votes – hummm when it comes to cooking I agree with you almost 100% of the time. I know you have to be a great cook. When it comes to political issues not so much.
Voting is much different with agreeing. Not sure why the left has such a problem with McCain and his stance against several Bush decisions.
Mmmmmmmm.
Crawfish.
Ya know, they do the same thing on the Voda Bridge of the Smoky out here. And STILL Hays thinks they own every goddam drop of water in it. Even when there IS no water.
Thank you governor “leadership” for your “leadership” in the rape of the Smoky.
Grmie, real slow for ya now.
You were bitchin’ because Steven said “votes with bush” because bush “doesnt vote” so therefore, mcsame could NOT have “voted with bush” ninety percent of the time.
And yet, those are the SAME words mccoot used to pat himself on the back. Before, ya know, he figured out how toxic his association with shrub would be.
That’s the hair you were trying to split.
Do you also agree that law hinges on the meaning of the word “is”?
That’s why Colorado stepped up early to get dibs on the power produced by the proposed water sucking Holcomb coal fired plant.
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The existing plant doesn’t get it’s water from the Ark., and neither would the proposed plants. (the Ark. River is sand for many miles out there)
Colorado is using the water for irrigation mainly.
But I agree CO doesn’t want the plant on their side of the border because it would use their water.
Autograph… Big hair. Parachute pants. I unfortunately remember more of that than I would like.
I WANNA ROCK !!!!
Sorry Anti. The water indeed does not come from the river, but from the alluvium and the aquifer. Agreed though that’s why Colorado is so anxious for the Holcomb coal fired plant to be built. They get almost all the benefit. Kansas gets almost all the costs.
Capn, The 2nd Amendment is not intended to be the first means to stop all of those things you mention.
The 2nd Amendment is the last option.
And it is this last option to maintain Freedom, that Obama will do his best to take away from us.
KFG
Obtuse? Naive? Just stubborn?
Sorry you don’t like the sources I’ve found. The Clinton’s didnt put their stuff on the internet back in 1994. (algore hadn’t invented it yet I guess.)
And I’m not about to pay money to CNN or the Wall Street Journal to search their archives that far back.
But don’t worry, when it comes up during Obama’s first term I’ll be sure to remind you.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink
Sorry Anti. The water indeed does not come from the river, but from the alluvium and the aquifer. Agreed though that’s why Colorado is so anxious for the Holcomb coal fired plant to be built. They get almost all the benefit. Kansas gets almost all the costs.
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Aquifer yes, Alluvial no so much. The alluvial water around there is pretty contaminated with mineral and nitrate/phosphorus particles- in other word it tends to clog sh*t up. Most good wells in that area(sand hills) have been extended to +300′ in depth, far below the alluvial water. Sadly they have been drilling deeper and deeper every year.
Anyway, CO has screwed SW KS for years and people are pissed. You and I both know the meaning of “dry” and the problems associated with ‘it’s my water, no it’s mine’.
McCain was asked several questions on Thursday about the shopping spree — and he answered each one more or less the same way: Palin needed clothes and they’ll be donated to charity.
“She needed clothes at the time. They’ll be donated at end of this campaign. They’ll be donated to charity,” McCain told reporters on his campaign bus between Florida rallies.
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Perhaps it would have worked out better if they had let her campaign naked.
Max writes that “Obama will take away our guns.”
Really, Max?
Will he do that before or after he has his girls circumcised?
Ridiculous . . .
I just happened to stumble across this on Google News:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6076307.html
Gee, looks like there aren’t Obama thugs carving people’s faces up after all! Yawn. . .
Incredible!
The highest-paid staffer on the McPalin campaign is:
The Moose-Dresser’s make-up artist!
http://tinyurl.com/5thhpg
It costs a lot of money to put lipstick on a
pigpit bull.“I unfortunately remember more of that than I would like.”
Cocaine, Jagermeister, unfortunately, I remember LESS of that era than I would like :)
You know what they say, if you remember it, you werent really there….
extended to +300? in depth, should have been +150-300′ in depth
…McCain plans in the closing days to focus on taxes and spending, national security, and what one adviser called “the perils of an Obama presidency with no checks and balances.”
The campaign will point to congressional Democrats’ claims about the agenda they plan in the new Congress, Obama’s “spread the wealth” remark to “Joe the Plumber” and Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s comment that his running mate would be tested internationally early in his presidency.
“We will focus like a laser on those messages in the closing days,” said the McCain adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk about strategy. …”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102303806.html?hpid=topnews
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Here’s why the Palin/McCain “laser” strategy will fail:
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“The Washington Post-ABC News tracking poll has been holding steady this week, showing Obama’s advantage at around 10 points. Gallup has had it between five and eight points, depending on its model for determining the most likely voters. The Pew Research Center put it at 14 points. The NBC-Wall Street Journal poll showed a 10-point lead for Obama earlier this week.
Peter Hart, who helps conduct the NBC survey, said that “what has been a tight and competitive race for six months has suddenly and dramatically opened up in Barack Obama’s favor.”
Hart concluded that after months of doubts, voters “have reached a comfort level with Barack Obama.” In contrast, he said, McCain faces significant doubts “that he matches what Americans are looking for in terms of change or hope and optimism for the future.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102303806_2.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2008102303877&s_pos=
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If it’s true that voters have reached a comfort level with Obama, then further efforts to paint Obama as an American force for evil will backfire, much as did Democrat efforts to portray another leader Americans became comfortable with, Reagan, as evil. This strategy is internally inconsistent.
Like I said, it will be like firing their laser at their own image in a mirror…
Perhaps it would have worked out better if they had let her campaign naked.
I be down wid dat.
Maybe the McPalin campaign will donate the Moose-Dresser’s eyeliners to charity after the campaign.
The student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, initially said a black man robbed her at knifepoint near a bank Wednesday night and then cut her cheek after seeing a McCain sticker on her car.
Todd, who is white, now says she was knocked unconscious and doesn’t remember being cut in the face. She now says she only discovered the wound later.
No arrests have been made.
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Not even for filing a false police report? I’ll bet the RNC lawyers are busy busy busy.
“Obtuse? Naive? Just stubborn?”
No, heckie. Unlike you, I’m just able to read.
“Sorry you don’t like the sources I’ve found. ”
Hehehe. HAHAHAHAHA
Hecker, even those wingnut sources you cite say it was speculation and nothing came of it.
But I’ll remind you of that in obama’s SECOND term!
nitwit
Here is Palin rebuttal to the clothes she wears. By the way I believe her libs.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/24/palin-denies-accepting-designer-clothes/
Sol,
BS politic’s aside your a good guy. I wish you luck in our uncertain future If we can help you out shout out to us !!!!
KFG, did Hays ever build that new pipeline to Cedar bluff a few years back? When I was in that area I remember the controversy.
“No arrests have been made.”
Well geez, mxyzptlk.
It’s College Station, Texas, the home of Texas A&M, where Gates worked before going to DOD, and the home of the Bush the First Presnitdential Liberry.
Did you really THINK they’d arrest her for anything?
You are such an optimist!
george, I believe her too. That’s not the point.
Thanx brother. Really appreciate it. Same you you and yours.
Good morning Ben,
Strawberry’s has a two pound pork steak they’re famous for. It’s pretty intimidating when they bring it out. When it’s gone, you get that feeling you got when you heard the Duke died.
I always want just one more bite!
you you? Not enough rum in my gatoraid. Need a refill….
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink
Oh, and btw, dumbass,
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
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Where is the registrar’s certified copy from 1961?
All I see is a later seal. The vault copy would have the 1961 registrar’s seal and signature. This is not shown.
Why?
She was “assaulted” in PA, not College Station.
It appears that she’s now (wisely) backing away from her initial claim. (you can check out a photo taken within hours of the alleged crime: the woman is sporting two shiners, neither of which is fresh) (which tells me she has bigger problems in her life than whatever happened in PA)
Barack Obama is not a U.S. Citizen.
When Barry Soetro aka Barack Obama lived in Indonesia, Indonesia did not allow Dual Citizenship or Dual Nationality; thus Obama is not a U.S. Citizen, he is Indonesian. Neither Obama’s place of birth or the nationality of his American parent are relevant, te Indonesian Law takes precedence under the Master Nationality Rule of Article 4 of the Hague Convention of 1930. The United States accepts th existence of Dual Nationality only if the other country does. Hague Conventions are applied by the United States and this has been in effect since before 1930.
Obama has not taken the certification of citizenship oath when he reached the age of majority. Obama is not a U.S. citizen.
Hell Anti, Hays didnt HAVE to build a pipeline to Cedar Bluff. Governor “leadership” and her little dogs joe harkins and ken grotewhiel let them have the water in Cedar Bluff, AND let them run it down the Smoky so everyone could put a straw into it and irrigate along the way to Hays.
Then they measure the water released not at Cedar Bluff, but at RUSSELL, about fifty miles away.
Thanks again governor “leadership”
Controversy? There was nearly blood shed.
And now Hays is exercising eminent domain to get water from well’s they’ve been leasing from landowners along the Smoky.
Hays doesnt want to pay for the water, or obtain water rights to it, AND they are stealing the land that they pump it on. They are using Russell’s water rights, not their own. That’s why they dont measure the water leaving Cedar Bluff, but instead, measure it at Russell.
nifty little piece of criminal work, no? Supported and approved by governor leadership.
And she had to fire the Director of the Water Office, Clark Duffy, in order to get it done.
Evil. Pure evil.
Thanks again governor “leadership”.
…and did I mention that Hays is STILL watering their golf course with treated water from the Smoky, er, Cedar Bluff?
Bastids.
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink
Barack Obama is not a U.S. Citizen.
When Barry Soetro aka Barack Obama lived in Indonesia, Indonesia did not allow Dual Citizenship or Dual Nationality; thus Obama is not a U.S. Citizen, he is Indonesian. Neither Obama’s place of birth or the nationality of his American parent are relevant, te Indonesian Law takes precedence under the Master Nationality Rule of Article 4 of the Hague Convention of 1930. The United States accepts th existence of Dual Nationality only if the other country does. Hague Conventions are applied by the United States and this has been in effect since before 1930.
Obama has not taken the certification of citizenship oath when he reached the age of majority. Obama is not a U.S. citizen.
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Rage–
Good snag.
This woman works for the College Republicans who are known for staging fake “outrages” like this one. Jack Abramoff was the President of the College Republicans. I think Karl Rove was too.
Not to toot my own horn, but I called it as a fake the minute I heard it.
Robbers don’t stick around to make political statements. That’s just idiotic.
PITTSBURGH — Pittsburgh police say a McCain campaign volunteer who reported being held down by a black man who then cut the letter “B” in her face has changed her story.
Police also say bank surveillance footage doesn’t show her at an ATM where she initially said she was attacked.
Police spokeswoman Diane Richard says investigators gave the 20-year-old woman a lie-detector test and are “looking at some inconsistencies” in her story.
Not only that, Pittsburgh is in the “must win” state of Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
Wasn’t that convenient for the McCain team to whip up fear of the scary black man . . .
A lot of LIPSTICK: Who was the highest paid individual in Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign during the first half of October as it headed down the homestretch?
It was Amy Strozzi, Gov. Sarah Palin’s traveling makeup artist!
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/pains-makeup-stylist-fetches-highest-salary-in-2-week-period/?hp
KFG
If house.gov is not good enough for you then it’s pointless. You insist on being ignorant, I can’t change that.
There’s several news articles I found that reference it from 1993 but I’m not going to pay good money to show you something you’ve chosen to believe is not possible. Your loss.
“The student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, initially said a black man robbed her at knifepoint near a bank Wednesday night and then cut her cheek after seeing a McCain sticker on her car.”
Sorry Pedant. You are correct. The nitwit is FROM College Station, not that it happened there.
Still, ya gotta wonder….
Looks like it’s going to be a Regular-free day from here on out.
Cool.
The republican version of Tawana Bradley.
I’m glad all those babykilling abortionists you mentioned where shot dead. They reaped what they sowed. They murdered helpless children and a hero stopped them.
Which do you prefer, a pile of bricks or a pile of dead babies? Innocent unborn babies deserve to be protected just as born children deserve to be protected. You would have no problem protecting born children if they were about to be murdered.
SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life. http://www.armyofgod.com
Okay then. President Joe Biden!
I’m sure y’all have noticed the “B” on her cheek is backwards….
It seems to me the young woman has some real psychological issues.
Heckler, when the repukes control Congress, they can put anything they want on the house website.
And as I said, note the letterhead of the document you site. It’s.. wait for it… A REPUBLICAN group. Not one damn democrat in it.
And, also as noted, you own goddam links say it was speculation and nothing came of it.
But we are amused, and we do encourage you to try again.
Stubborn? Or obtuse? Or just plain dumb?
Have another shot of koolaide brother.
“I’m glad all those babykilling abortionists you mentioned where shot dead.”
Well, thanks for that insight into the mind of bjb and troyboy.
Like John Prine says, “now Jesus dont like killin’ no matter what the reason’s for”.
Army of god indeed.
And they are ALL yours, republicans.
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink
Looks like it’s going to be a Regular-free day from here on out.
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So where is the copy of the original vaulted certificate that has the registrar’s certification from 1961?
All I see is a spanking brand new form from an official who was retired from official duty when he certified that document.
Shout out to the Eagle,
Might be a good idea for a small fee to showcase some of the posters skills to you know help us out in uncertain times….
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Monkeyhawk
Posted October 24, 2008 at 11:34 am | Permalink
Mmmmmmmm.
Crawfish.
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Hee hee hee heeeeee.
Pinch the tails and suck the heads!
Apparently, I’m not the only skeptic out there:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/23/why-that-mccain-volunteers-mutilation-story-smells-awfully-weird/
I grew up in San Antonio. We had the best water in the world supplied by the Edward’s aquifer. Naturally purified by layers and layers of limestone. Bout all you had to do was strain it to get out the chunks of lime stones and salamanders.
Problem was, we would have a shortfall every summer during the dry months. We would have to ration. Everyone’s grass died because we couldn’t water. Yada yada yada. So the brainiacs decided to build Applewhite. Another aquifer near San Marcos. It would supply our lean months. During the good months we would sell the excess to Austin.
Broke ground, moved everything in… Then politics stepped in. At that point, it would have cost just as much to pull out or to complete the job (which would supply revenue mind you). The lovely politicians decided to kill the project.
Water problems everywhere. Idiot elected officials everywhere. Gotta love it.
Les a le bon ton roule!
annie, you a developer?
Reg, please, stop humiliating yourself. It isnt even working for your candidate.
But keep pushing it. It IS working for obama!
“Les a le bon ton roule” OK I googled it and all I got were MySpace hits. Do tell do tell.
“RevSpitz” –
“…eternal life?!”
Hell, sometimes I can’t fill up a weekend.
Regular–
You are a despicable liar.
First, you claimed up and down that the birth certificate that Obama’s people posted to the web was “a fake because it wasn’t notarized with a raised seal.”
It turns out that in thirty seconds one can find photographic proof that the birth certificate copy was notarized and did have a raised seal.”
You have given no explanation or apology of your former LIE.
Having been caught cold in one lie, you now attempt to shift the grounds of your argument claiming that only some mythical “vault copy” is legally valid.
The Obama campaign got what the State of Hawaii sent them and what the State of Hawaii considers legal and what the State of Hawaii has verified as legal.
Now let me ask you a question as intelligent as the ones you’re asking me:
Why don’t you sue Hawaii for not sending out this all-important “vault copy,” Regular? Why?
Whatever the “vault copy” is, the State of Hawaii has made it clear that it doesn’t matter.
And you know it.
From now on, if I have to refer to you, it will be by the well-earned name, “ReguLIAR.”
Sol, it means let the good times roll. I might be writing it wrong.
But any coon ass will tell ya so!
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 12:16 pm | Permalink
Reg, please, stop humiliating yourself. It isnt even working for your candidate.
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I know, but I do it to waste the Crapn’s time.
(chortles)
A comment downthread in avtolle’s 12:12pm link:
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“Anyhoo, real attack, fake attack, I don’t know.
But the more I learn about Obama and his mentors and associations, Frank Marshall Davis, Edward Said, Rasheed Khalili, Bernadine Dohrn, and William Ayers, the more I suspect he is a “Manchurian Candidate”, a man who will do by guile what the Weather Underground couldn’t do with bombs, destroy America as a democracy with a capitalist economic system.”
“Exactly.”
“Or what if the woman is actually a Republican mole, pretending to be a democratic mole who would masquerade as a McCain campaign worker with the explicit intention of creating a hoax?
That way, when she is “exposed” as a Democratic mole it would actually discredit the Dems! Well…as long as they don’t find out she is actually a Republican mole…
Well played, RNC. Well played.”
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Cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
Cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
Cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
This one got two hits. Dunno which is correct…
Lese le bon ton roule
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 24, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink
The republican version of Tawana Bradley.
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You mean Brawley?
Maybe, expect there won’t be a race pimp fronting for her with the media.
I’m thinking that this alleged attack looks pretty fishy.
“ksfarmgrrl” –
If you’re worried about the spelling you ain’t talkin’ coon-ass.
I wasted a morning the other day watching Justin Wilson clips on YouTube.
I spent a week with him back when I was in the ad biz. He took us out to all his favorite mom & pop places in the bayou and Louisiana countryside. A standard-issue Pepsi-Cola sign out front, a double-wide trailer for a dining room, and Gumbo and Po’ Boys that made you weep.
I garr-on-tee.
Brawley?
She has a book out now. Yeah, an exotic dancer who lied about a gang rape. Should be a real page turner.
You mean Brawley?
Yea, thank you outie. I was wrong.
See heckie? See how easy that is?
Heheeheheheh Monkeyhawk. I’m way jealous. Those sound like a place I know in Breaux Bridge, with the best soft shell crabs in the world.
I’m homesick AND jealous!
A guy in Breaux Bridge who had been stationed in Wichita in the Air Force said to me “kansas, huh? Where the land is flat, the food is flat and the people are flat”.
I couldnt argue….
Oil Plummets Below $65 Despite OPEC Production Cut
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/energy/oil-plummets–despite-opec-production-cut/
And Another One Bites the Dust.
Scott Bloch, who began his career with bushco as the head homophobe and then moved on up, is GONE.
Gone gone like bon bon.
It’s about damn time.
http://www.pogo.org/p/government/OSCcompendium.html
About Scott Bloch from wiki
“Removal of sexual orientation nondiscriminiation
Bloch’s first major actions as head of the office were to choose as deputy a lawyer who had publicly taken a position against the “homosexual agenda”, and to hire young lawyers from Ave Maria School of Law, the Catholic school founded by Domino’s Pizza billionaire Tom Monaghan.[3] In February 2004, Bloch ordered all mention of sexual orientation workplace nondiscrimination be removed from OSC’s website and printed materials. Bloch stated his office lacked the authority to ban discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. [4]
Bloch’s critics argued that gay employees were protected by the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, which prohibits discrimination against federal employees “on the basis of conduct which does not adversely affect the performance of the employee.” Since its enactment, all five prior presidential administrations (Ford, Carter, Reagan, H. W. Bush, and Clinton) had interpreted this law to protect homosexual employees. [5]
After complaints from Congress, [6] the Bush Administration released a statement saying homosexual employees were still protected in April 2004. [7] Bloch issued a statement that after conducting a legal analysis: “It is the policy of this administration that discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of sexual orientation is prohibited.” [8]
And did I mention, he’s a graduate of the KU school of law?
yep. He’s a kansas con republican alright. Bigoted AND corrupt.
But Mr. Bloch, a 50-year old lawyer and father of seven who previously served as deputy director of the Justice Department’s Task Force for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, began to draw scrutiny from the start of his OSC tenure.
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Aha! He was a socialist Community Organizer!
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink
Regular–
You are a despicable liar.
First, you claimed up and down that the birth certificate that Obama’s people posted to the web was “a fake because it wasn’t notarized with a raised seal.”
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Oh btw,
DANCE PUPPET DANCE!
(chortles)
PolitiCo.com is reporting that McCain’s top staffers are sending around their resumes.
It’s tough to be a CON now that Worst. President. Ever. destroyed the party.
okobserver posted October 24, 2008 at 10:01 am
[Obama] did however vote not to fund our troops who were fighting a war.
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McCain urged Bush to VETO a bill that funded our troops who were fighting a war.
“Pittsburgh police say a McCain campaign volunteer who reported being held down by a black man who then cut the letter “B” in her face has changed her story.”
TOLD YA!
That young woman needs to go to jail.
But, maybe lean on her a little first.
Is this just her? Or, were there more people in on this?
What did John McCain know and when did he know it?
“What did John McCain know and when did he know it?”-BlueJay
I KNOW you’re joking…right?
She got her fifteen minutes.
She’s a terrible make-up artist though. So once she’s outta jail, don’t expect to see her name in any movie credits.
A homosexual Bushco White House is just icing on the cake of hypocrisy.
Most high-up Republican’s dig the boys.
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews2/boystown/
nifty little piece of criminal work, no? Supported and approved by governor leadership.
And she had to fire the Director of the Water Office, Clark Duffy, in order to get it done.
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Damn Germans anyway!…and Russians too!!
Sounds like back woods, backwards, engineering with a political twist.
Hyperbole there pleefer.
But I do think it cold be more involved than just this young woman. She should not have to take the fall alone if there are accomplices.
Let’s not minimize this. She made this incendiary claim at an explosive time in the political season. AND she gave it a racial twist. This is the sort of thing that can cause riots and people getting hurt.
A good thing RESPONSIBLE media and bloggers did not run with this before they knew what it was.
Pleef,
Check your gmail
Kinda a cheesily put together site, but the links and info are very good.
Read on. Learn about your Bushco.
http://www.franklingate.com/
Not a US citizen you say? Then sue. “Put up or shut up,” I believe is the phrase.
McCain Worker ‘Confesses’ She Made Up Attack Story
Campaign volunteer Ashley Todd, 20, reportedly admits she lied when she claimed a ‘black man’ beat her and carved a ‘B’ in her face because she was McCain backer
-FOX NEWS
Now.. let’s review yeterdays posts, shall we?
Of course she was just following party’s leadership: lie, lie, lie, lie, lie and add a dash of racist fear for flavor…
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Pleefer
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink
“What did John McCain know and when did he know it?”-BlueJay
I KNOW you’re joking…right?
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Oh, like this kind of stunt is beneath McCain?
Dirty politics, thy name is republican.
Order up!
Two servings of crow. Party of Hoaxlock and outlander.
Indeed BlueJay. More un-needed divide. What a stupid wench. She needs locked up for a while. Make her earn that fifteen minutes.
“Maybe, expect there won’t be a race pimp fronting for her with the media.”
No, just a McCain pimp.
DavidB – is Regular parroting that “not a citizen” BS again?
“DavidB
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
McCain Worker ‘Confesses’ She Made Up Attack Story
Campaign volunteer Ashley Todd, 20, reportedly admits she lied when she claimed a ‘black man’ beat her and carved a ‘B’ in her face because she was McCain backer
-FOX NEWS
Now.. let’s review yeterdays posts, shall we?”
She should be jailed for filing a false report. Then SUED!
XXX
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink
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Pleefer
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink
“What did John McCain know and when did he know it?”-BlueJay
I KNOW you’re joking…right?
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Oh, like this kind of stunt is beneath McCain?
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McCain or his campaign had nothing to do with this.
This is a single act of a dumb ass from the city of Aggies, College Station/Bryan Texas.
Isn’t it a shame when republicans have to resort to lies? And this was a good one! Poor little white girl attacked by, GASP, a BLACK MAN! And the BLACK BEAST added insult to injury by suggesting she should vote for Obama! Oh, the outrage was palatable this morning by certian republican posters.
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bth
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink
“Maybe, expect there won’t be a race pimp fronting for her with the media.”
No, just a McCain pimp.
DavidB – is Regular parroting that “not a citizen” BS again?
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Yes, and it was great fun jerking the Crapn around. :D
XXX
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:37 pm | Permalink
Isn’t it a shame when republicans have to resort to lies? And this was a good one! Poor little white girl attacked by, GASP, a BLACK MAN! And the BLACK BEAST added insult to injury by suggesting she should vote for Obama! Oh, the outrage was palatable this morning by certian republican posters.
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Nevermind that, did they catch the black guy?
XXX,
One word,
“jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus”.
This only hurt McCain even more. And maybe his team is that stupid, but I’m doubting it. You’d think he would have given her a tiny budget for a better make-up job. It’s Halloween for chrissakes, there’s plenty of cheap make-up and effects out there.
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XXX
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:37 pm | Permalink
Isn’t it a shame when republicans have to resort to lies? And this was a good one! Poor little white girl attacked by, GASP, a BLACK MAN! And the BLACK BEAST added insult to injury by suggesting she should vote for Obama! Oh, the outrage was palatable this morning by certian republican posters.
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Isn’t it about time you get a new feed bag for your spouse?
XXX,
Yeah, just like how a little while back all the liberals were afraid of Repulicans gunning them down?
Yeah, how dispicable of you liberals for making up such phony BS.
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
This is a single act of a dumb ass from the city of Aggies, College Station/Bryan Texas.
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Well of course it is, Reggie! Never mind that she worked for the McCain campaign.
“This is a single act of a dumb ass f”
Maybe, maybe not.
The FIRST question I have is who took the picture that started all this?
Who was involved in putting it on the internet?
In the internet age, a lie can gain a lot of ground in only a few minutes.
What if the media had jumped on this like Drudge and Sean Hannity did?
“Boxlock” brought the story here shortly after Hannity started selling it. HIS post revealed boiling rage. I should go get it. Outlander quickly poured gas on the fire.
This could have gotten someone KILLED. That is why I say, yeah it’s just a blog. But you have to be responsible about what you post.
This exemplifies the whole McCain campaign in a nutshell… McCain deserved to run himself a more honorable campaign than the one he let his team build…
I do so pity the old man.
The Obama Youth should drag her into the streets and hack her to bits with machetes!
Hank, Max, and Boxlock are pissed off that some innocent black guy didn’t get lynched before the Repuke liar changed her story.
DAMN THOSE PESKY CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS!
Another white man’s hobby ruined by a meddling bureaucracy.
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:38 pm | Permalink
Isn’t it about time you get a new feed bag for your spouse?
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At least I have a spouse.
Unlike you, who hasn’t had a woman you didn’t pay for in years.
Get a girlfriend, Reg.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
It started on Druge, apparently. Hmmmm.
Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..
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XXX
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:44 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:38 pm | Permalink
Isn’t it about time you get a new feed bag for your spouse?
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At least I have a spouse.
Unlike you, who hasn’t had a woman you didn’t pay for in years.
Get a girlfriend, Reg.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Yeah, but back then, your spouse didn’t have change for a five, so it was a rip off.
BlueJay,
Now if only you actually believed the crap you post…
LOL
Have to be responsible about what you post?
LOL
Strange Days we’re living in.
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”-George Orwell
In West Virginia’s Jackson County, there were some reports that voting machines were accidentally recording the wrong vote.
“I went in there and pushed the Democrat ticket, and it jumped to the Republican ticket for president of the United States,” said Calvin Thomas, an 81-year-old West Virginian.
The same thing happened to his daughter, Micki Clendenin, when she cast her ballot. In both cases, poll workers at the site had them touch the screen a few more times, and the voting machine changed their ballot to their candidate choice.
“We’re having problems with the poll machines,” a voter in Jacksonville, Florida, told the CNN Voter Hotline. “They’re not aligned correctly, so you’re not sure about which candidate you’re voting for
CNN
I know she is only an operative of the McCain campaign.
But I would say McCain should make a statement and apologize for this incident.
He’s got nothing to lose at this point. One hopes he wants his political career not tainted by this.
Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..
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It happened in PA, dumb ass.
Meanwhile, in reality, the economy moves further down the tubes.
Chas,
“Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..”
Indeed, given that Pennsylvania turns out to be the state where the McCain/Palin “campaign” has declared its intention to make its last stand. Can’t wait to see the backstory on this one.
Stick a fork in John McCain: he’s way done. Overdone, in fact.
Wow. I can remember when the CONs told good believable lies: Dukkais releases murder/rapists, Clinton killed Vince foster, Kerry shot himself in the arm, etc.
Now they’re reduced to staging ridiculous “outrages” that not even their supporters can swallow (except for the really dumb ones like Max & outlander, etc).
A bad lie is no sooner believed than the truth. Mark Twain
Sad to see what a bunch of bunglers the right-wing has become.
“Have to be responsible about what you post?”
Nathan I devoted many posts yesterday to trying to back Boxlock off of this. I even tried to show him he was reacting without thinking.
Everybody KNOWS what Drudge is. But I’m going to listen and expect a statement from Hannity. HE is the one who gave this thing wind at it’s back.
ReguLIAR–
I’ve met Mrs. XXX, and you’re really pissing me off.
Remember, I know where you live.
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:52 pm | Permalink
Wow. I can remember when the CONs told good believable lies: Dukkais releases murder/rapists, Clinton killed Vince foster, Kerry shot himself in the arm, etc.
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Naw, it was the exploding rice cooker that planted a grain of rice in Kerry’s butt that got him his third purple heart.
Enter: Jerry Springer’s Presidential Election coverage.
A sad, sad state of affairs we’re in.
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:54 pm | Permalink
ReguLIAR–
I’ve met Mrs. XXX, and you’re really pissing me off.
Remember, I know where you live.
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Really?
Didn’t you think five dollars was too high?
ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink
Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..
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It happened in PA, dumb ass.
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I KNOW that ANTI —- Read upthread, and it would look as if it happened in Texas…
But I know you have reading difficulties… so I will over look it this time….
Still looks like it didnt happen at all!!
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Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:55 pm | Permalink
ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink
Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..
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It happened in PA, dumb ass.
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I KNOW that ANTI —- Read upthread, and it would look as if it happened in Texas…
But I know you have reading difficulties… so I will over look it this time….
Still looks like it didnt happen at all!!
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Quick Chas, what state is Pennsylvania in?
Now, now CapN…. Dont say any more about Regular’s residence… He might file another — Ahem — lawsuit….
Uh oh. The next big bailout?
Ethanol plants.
http://www.dtnprogressivefarmer.com/dtnag/common/link.do?symbolicName=/ag/blogs/template1&blogHandle=grainmarkets&blogEntryId=8a82c0bc1cb6339b011d2578980504c8
Everyone’s trying to get a handout before bushco shuts the door on the way to Paraguay.
First they get subsidies to grow corn, produce ethanol, market ethanol, and when even the subsidies cant make the industry work?
They get ready for a bailout.
Screw ‘em. Skull screw ‘em.
Oh, and guess where the WE’s former resident ethanol shill went to work?
Progressive farmer.
They do reward their own, dont they?
And now everybody else does too:
http://maps.live.com/#JnE9eXAuNjAwK05vcnRoK29saXZlcit3aWNoaXRhK2tzJTdlc3N0LjAlN2VwZy4xJmJiPTUwLjYyNTA3MzA2MzQxNDQlN2UtNzUuNDk4MDQ2ODc1JTdlMzguNDc5Mzk0NjczMjc2NCU3ZS0xMTkuMDkxNzk2ODc1
I can put a street level view next time if you prefer . . .
Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:58 pm | Permalink
Now, now CapN…. Dont say any more about Regular’s residence… He might file another — Ahem — lawsuit…
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The crapn is too scared to stop by, too many black people in my neighborhood.
Regular,
I am on your side in most things here. If you want to go after XXX, fine.
There really is no reason to involve his wife.
You should apologize and refrain from making such statements about family members.
I know that others here do not treat you fairly, but you don’t need to go after their family to make a point. You do quite well otherwise.
CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
And now everybody else does too:
http://maps.live.com/#JnE9eXAuNjAwK05vcnRoK29saXZlcit3aWNoaXRhK2tzJTdlc3N0LjAlN2VwZy4xJmJiPTUwLjYyNTA3MzA2MzQxNDQlN2UtNzUuNDk4MDQ2ODc1JTdlMzguNDc5Mzk0NjczMjc2NCU3ZS0xMTkuMDkxNzk2ODc1
I can put a street level view next time if you prefer . .
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Ah, nice shot…will have to get me one of those views.
CapnAmerica,
You are all talk. If you would like to meet, I would love to get together and talk.
And if you want to threaten Regular, well, he might just have company over.
Who wants to be toddly will be in favor of the ethanol bailout? I mean, as long as he can hide behind the majority?
Chas,
I am sure you would love to have your home address published here wouldn’t you?
What a coward Capnamerica is.
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Nathaniel
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
Regular,
I am on your side in most things here. If you want to go after XXX, fine.
There really is no reason to involve his wife.
You should apologize and refrain from making such statements about family members.
I know that others here do not treat you fairly, but you don’t need to go after their family to make a point. You do quite well otherwise.
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He can handle it.
He’s made so many comments about me personally, he has no room to feel bothered.
He’s knows I was jerking his chain. When he learns to talk to me civilly, I’ll return the favor.
Quick Chas, what state is Pennsylvania in?
LMFAO!!!!
He is on Google Maps right now figuring it out !!!!
First they get subsidies to grow corn, produce ethanol, market ethanol, and when even the subsidies cant make the industry work?
They get ready for a bailout.
Screw ‘em. Skull screw ‘em.
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KFG, I worked on a few of the plants in Kansas…All the contractors and investors said the same thing, Fast Money…They all new that ethanol was a stupid idea, but the green morons and lawmakers were pushing so hard for it. Get in, get your money, get out!
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:54 pm | Permalink
ReguLIAR–
I’ve met Mrs. XXX, and you’re really pissing me off.
Remember, I know where you live.
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Capn, I’d sure like to have that information. I think Regular has earned himself a little visit from XXX.
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
XXX
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink
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Pleefer
Posted October 24, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink
“What did John McCain know and when did he know it?”-BlueJay
I KNOW you’re joking…right?
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Oh, like this kind of stunt is beneath McCain?
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McCain or his campaign had nothing to do with this.
This is a single act of a dumb ass from the city of Aggies, College Station/Bryan Texas.
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ANTI — I for one have had about enough of your damned Trolling…. REGULAR identified it is being done by somebody from TEXAS…
My question last nite was: Why would a young 20-something be in Pittsburgh, during the height of the FALL Semester???
NOW, you want to think again before you call ME or anybody else a “dumbass” ???
Oh, sorry, Nathan.
You must feel left out because Regular didn’t call your stepmom a five dollar whore.
But then’s she’s the one making the money.
So . . . what’s that make your dad then?
Nathaniel,
Is Cheney going to come out of his undisclosed location, and convince Senator Reid to make a lot of policy changes in the Senate?
I never thought burning food for fuel was a good idea…
Hannity is on now.
I wonder if he will even mention the hoax he helped play a part in?
No, Cheney is still dead, I think.
You got it, XXX.
Check your e-mail.
A 20-year-old John McCain campaign volunteer has admitted to lying about being mugged and attacked by a man who carved a “B” into her cheek after seeing a McCain bumper sticker on her car, Pittsburgh police announced Friday…
Todd, from College Station, Texas, told police that on Wednesday night at 9 p.m….
Fox News
Ashley Rodd.
“All a hoax.”
http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/6650/23612
I think the CONs are back to alleging Barack Obama was a member of the Manson Family.
(I wonder what Leslie Van Houten would look like in a $150,000 wardrobe?)
Todd.
Damned typos
One look at you, XXX, and I’m betting 50 bucks, Regular won’t come to the door . . . hehehe.
Don’t believe it.
Cheney has been dead before.
I for one have had about enough of your damned Trolling…. -Chas
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What the hell are you jabbering about???
BTW, ReguLIAR, I was on the 600 block of Crestway Monday morning signing up a nice lady’s son to vote for Obama.
We work your neighborhood all the time.
It’s like Obama Central.
Thanks Capn!
Oh Reg……
Heh heh heh heh
Say, didn’t I see something online the other day about an elderly east Wichita woman living around Oliver and Douglas being arrested on a vice charge? Something about running a one whore two dollar whorehouse? I believe the story I read went something like “pulling trains,” “homeless men,” and “her tenant brother.” Any of yall recall that?!?
Name of McClu…dang, what was that name again? :D
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:10 pm | Permalink
Don’t believe it.
Cheney has been dead before.
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Ha ha! You know he is made of metal…he doesn’t die, he only rust!
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:09 pm | Permalink
One look at you, XXX, and I’m betting 50 bucks, Regular won’t come to the door . . . hehehe.
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I’m pretty sure I’ve seen him at a restaurant or was that the feed store?
They were on the cattle scale prior to feeding time.
Oh yeah, maybe it was Crestway instead of Central and Oliver.
Anybody else heard of that place? :D
Dang, I am struggling to recall that whore’s name.
Anybody help me out with that? :D
Nathan you are only encouraging Regular.
I KNOW what this is. That is why I haven’t played into it til now.
At 1:38, Regular did not like the direction of the discussion. One can little blame him. This hoax is very bad news for McCain.
SO “Regular” decided to make a distraction with a totally tasteless shot on a woman he has never even met.
XXX would be within his rights to make the guy spit teeth.
Hmmm Hannity is not mentioning the hoax.
I should THINK he would want to clear his name from this dirty business.
The lying McCainiac was from Texas but was brought to Pittsburgh by the McCain campaign. That is where she perpetrated her hoax that the right-wing has trumpeted so loudly.
Wow, it’s like 7th grade around here. Things must be getting to people.
Nyah Nyah nah Nyah Nyah.
I’m getting some chuckles out of it though. Thanks.
Crestway, Wichita, trains involving homeless men, brother watched….
Anybody else recall that story? :D
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:12 pm | Permalink
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen him at a restaurant or was that the feed store?
They were on the cattle scale prior to feeding time.
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Heh, heh, heh, heh….
BlueJay – Hannity is hoping his ‘regulars’ haven’t heard the truth about his hoax.
CapnAmerica,
Like I said, you are nothing but a coward.
XXX,
Look at your knew friend. I believe my mother showed you nothing but hospitality when we had you over.
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BlueJay
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:14 pm | Permalink
XXX would be within his rights to make the guy spit teeth.
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Heh, heh, heh, heh
If McCainco did do this, man…oh man.
They are some cheap bassturds.
But it’s just more bread and circuses.
And here we are giving it more steam.
Get that wench into Abu Ghraib and get some answers.
XXX, Hey do they make that .500 S&W in a lever action carbine?
Or is it strictly a revolver round?
BlueJay,
Actually, if XXX even touched Regular in a threatening manner he would be going to jail for battery.
Assualt if he showed up threatening harm to Regular.
I think XXX is smarter than that.
Darn memory. Let’s see, two dollar whore, brother — named as his sister’s pimp according to the story — was a US Air Force veteran, on disability.
Anybody else recall reading about a whorehouse in E Wichita? :D
Regular started it Nathan and I have shown you why. Stop sticking up for him.
I’d say it is between XXX and James now.
Shouldnt take long, Ben… Seems ANTI is already trying to run from it… LOL
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Nathaniel
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:18 pm | Permalink
XXX,
Look at your knew friend. I believe my mother showed you nothing but hospitality when we had you over.
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Agreed, Nathan. As you are well aware, I have no beef with you or your family. What did I miss?
Maybe XXX can sue regular for defamation.
Then again, maybe regular will just display his attitude toward someone on the street and “get his”
Dang, the Libs must watch Hannity every day.
They still got that cross-eyed bugger on there with him?
Chas
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:21 pm | Permalink
Shouldnt take long, Ben… Seems ANTI is already trying to run from it… LOL
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Run from what?
Now the story mentioned that the brother, a disabled US Air Force veteran, was selling his sister’s soiled panties online. Just a rumor mind you. :D
Pedant
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:21 pm | Permalink
Darn memory. Let’s see, two dollar whore, brother — named as his sister’s pimp according to the story — was a US Air Force veteran, on disability.
Anybody else recall reading about a whorehouse in E Wichita?
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Actually, there are several ‘crack’ house not too far from here. Well, they are ‘drop zones.’
The police know about them and the activities. I guess it’s easier to pick them up once they leave the house.
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ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:19 pm | Permalink
XXX, Hey do they make that .500 S&W in a lever action carbine?
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Not that I’m aware of.
Heh, heh, heh, heh
Nathan–
I’ve never met you, your father, or your mother, and God willing, I never will.
What’s with these US Air Force vets, anyway?
By the way X?
You WOULD be in your rights to make James spit teeth.
Don’t.He aint worth it.
I found your wife friendly and very hospitable. Regular’s opinion on….anything is worth?
Hey since Franklin bailed ol’ Regular is numero uno persona non grata.
Story mentioned that the brother was a “regular” client AND pimp.
And a US Air Force veteran, to boot.
Anyone notice the price of gold? Wonder why? Being sold by the ton I hear. Think about it…
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Nathaniel
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
BlueJay,
Actually, if XXX even touched Regular in a threatening manner he would be going to jail for battery.
Assualt if he showed up threatening harm to Regular.
I think XXX is smarter than that.
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He won’t, he’s just miffed I got his goat.
An old nam vet like XXX can take some ribbing and sticking.
I don’t understand what’s up with the US Air Force. Veterans pimping out their sisters and all.
What’s happened to their sense of honor?
THIS is what I am talking about dimwit >>>>
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YOU called me a dumb ass because I said the “story” first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post/Gazette…. YOU flamed on what I made as a comment… since REGULIAR had made a big deal out of something in TEXAS… ya know, Aggies???
I reponded to YOU with THIS >>>>
“I KNOW that ANTI —- Read upthread, and it would look as if it happened in Texas…
But I know you have reading difficulties… so I will over look it this time….
Still looks like it didnt happen at all!!”
NOW, it is posted that indeed it WAS a hoax…. Do try to keep up with your own nonsense… TROLL!!
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Nathaniel
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
BlueJay,
Actually, if XXX even touched Regular in a threatening manner he would be going to jail for battery.
Assualt if he showed up threatening harm to Regular.
I think XXX is smarter than that.
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I haven’t made any threat against Regular (whose address I now have).
Heh, heh, heh, heh
Not that I’m aware of.
Heh, heh, heh, heh
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I’ve been looking for a ‘guide gun’. It looks like ammo for .44mag and .500 is priced about the same. I think I would flinch to much with .500 in a revolver, that is why I asked. I would think .500 would make a good carbine for close quarter big game.
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:26 pm | Permalink
He won’t, he’s just miffed I got his goat.
An old nam vet like XXX can take some ribbing and sticking.
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It’s coming
Heh, heh, heh, heh
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XXX
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:26 pm | Permalink
He won’t, he’s just miffed I got his goat.
An old nam vet like XXX can take some ribbing and sticking.
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It’s coming
Heh, heh, heh, heh
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Is it?
I thought you were just breathing hard.
Just think, the US Air Force behind this kind of behavior.
I would certainly expect better of our military.
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ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:28 pm | Permalink
I’ve been looking for a ‘guide gun’. It looks like ammo for .44mag and .500 is priced about the same. I think I would flinch to much with .500 in a revolver, that is why I asked. I would think .500 would make a good carbine for close quarter big game.
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You’re welcome to try it out if you have a place to shoot. You have to fire several times till you get past that “flinch” thing.
Was the whore named Linda McClu…dang, what WAS that name?!?
XXX is too modest to say it, but his significant other is a very lovely person (I hope he doesn’t mind me talking out of turn).
I don’t care how many years somebody spends in the military, that kind of ReguLIAR talk is just nasty and wholly unwarranted flaming.
Capn – I have met Nathan’s dad and can tell you that he is a good man. Esoecially when we get past the ‘labels’ and look at things away from here on the blog.
You’ve got a good CLUE there, Pedant.
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:33 pm | Permalink
XXX is too modest to say it, but his significant other is a very lovely person (I hope he doesn’t mind me talking out of turn).
I don’t care how many years somebody spends in the military, that kind of ReguLIAR talk is just nasty and wholly unwarranted flaming.
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Kind of like the talk done here about Sarah Palin?
Hmmm?
Hypocrites…
I’m sure Todd Palin would like to invite you all out on a remote Alaska hunting trip to a spot frequented by grizzlies.
BTH
I can believe it. I just don’t want to meet him.
Chas, I think your crazed rant was for nothing….I just pointed out that the incident occurred in PA….dumb ass.
Actually, Regular is a good illustration here.
Even he is occassionally useful.
Drudge put this hoax online. Or at least mainline online.
Sean Hannity gave it to several million radio listeners.
Then here comes Boxlock bringing it here.
You have to imagine a similar thing happening all over the country within those few minutes.
There are people like Regular out there.
What if one of the major networks had given the hoax further air?
Before anyone stopped to think, there could have been mass violence.
Yeah, that was it. Two dollar whore named Linda living on Crestway, workin’ in a one whore whorehouse run by the US Air Force.
Despicable.
You’re welcome to try it out if you have a place to shoot. You have to fire several times till you get past that “flinch” thing.-XXX
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I appreciate that XXX, when the hunting seasons are over and I have time, I may take you up on that.
LOL! Well said.
‘Was Drudge just trying to prove our point?‘
http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200810240013
“About how his influence has cratered during his campaign cycle? And how, since the Wall Street meltdown began six weeks ago, his brand of shallow, partisan, GOP gotcha attacks have been completely ineffective? ”
Moe at link.
“….I just pointed out that the incident occurred in PA”
Yes, the McCain campaign brought her to PA to carry out her hoax. They were hoping it would sway votes in what might be a swing state.
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Pedant
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:33 pm | Permalink
Was the whore named Linda McClu…dang, what WAS that name?!?
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Ah, you see, I don’t know XXX or his wife or even if he has one.
Of course, I don’t know his name, so I don’t even know he exists other from what Hank has mentioned about him shooting his hand cannon.
The difference between me and you Libs, is you bring in real names and addresses and post them here on the blog.
That’s the first step to malice aforethought in criminal proceedings.
Just thought you should know.
(chortles)
Certainly, a full investigation is in order.
That young woman faces some serious charges. They need to lean on her to see how far this goes.
“That’s the first step to malice aforethought in criminal proceedings.”
Go hide behind someone’s skirt there regular.
What’s next, Government seizing IRA’s, Pensions, and all private savings? Is your house next on their TAKE list?
Would Obama, Dems Kill 401(k) Plans?
October 23, 2008 10:47 AM ET | James Pethokoukis | Permanent Link | Print
I hate to use the “S” word, but the American government would never do something as, well, socialist as seize private pension funds, right? This is exactly what cash-strapped Argentina just did in the name of protecting workers’ retirement accounts (Efharisto, Fausta’s Blog). Now, even Uncle Sam isn’t that stupid, but some Democrats might try something almost as loopy: kill 401(k) plans.
House Democrats recently invited Teresa Ghilarducci, a professor at the New School of Social Research, to testify before a subcommittee on her idea to eliminate the preferential tax treatment of the popular retirement plans. In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created “guaranteed retirement accounts” for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/10/23/would-obama-dems-kill-401k-plans.html
BlueJay – I find it revealing how the entire right-wing talk/blog machine was primed and ready for the hoax. Doesn’t seem they are so quick or persistent to retract their hoax.
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
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Pedant
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:33 pm | Permalink
Was the whore named Linda McClu…dang, what WAS that name?!?
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Ah, you see, I don’t know XXX or his wife or even if he has one.
Of course, I don’t know his name, so I don’t even know he exists other from what Hank has mentioned about him shooting his hand cannon.
The difference between me and you Libs, is you bring in real names and addresses and post them here on the blog.
That’s the first step to malice aforethought in criminal proceedings.
Just thought you should know.
(chortles)
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And the slimy backpedaling begins, backpedaling before he even apologizes.
Disgusting.
This, folks, is your US Air Force at work today, as represented here.
Geez,
No wonder Obama wants to ban guns.
He can’t steal America’s assets if we are able to defend our Freedom.
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bth
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
“That’s the first step to malice aforethought in criminal proceedings.”
Go hide behind someone’s skirt there regular.
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Not hiding…
If XXX shows up, I’ll advise him of two things. If he threatens me, first he’ll spend the next year in a hospital; secondly – He’ll spend the next five years in prison (minimum.)
It’s simple, it really is.
Max – that is old news. It has already been shown that this was only a brainstorming session where they invited all sorts of people to give their ideas with no endorsement.
Gee regular – with all of your flaming and malicious defamation you sure are quick to whine when the favor is returned.
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bth
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:44 pm | Permalink
Gee regular – with all of your flaming and malicious defamation you sure are quick to whine when the favor is returned.
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You appear to be confused about the English language there.
MAX-
Not hiding…
If XXX shows up, I’ll advise him of two things. If he threatens me, first he’ll spend the next year in a hospital; secondly – He’ll spend the next five years in prison (minimum.)
It’s simple, it really is.
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Unless XXX is a gang member…..
Nola let’s ‘em skate……
No regular – not confused at all. Feed bag and all that …
I seem to recall XXX is Patriot Guard.
After Government takes our assets, Government will decide:
1)When or If we retire.
2)How much (if any) of our own money we are allowed to receive each month. A means test will be used to determine how much we get. Some will get MORE then they paid in. Others will get LESS then they paid it. ALL WILL BE EQUALIZED.
3)After we die, the Government will keep whatever is left, if any is left. Your spouse and kids are SOL.
biased1
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:46 pm | Permalink
MAX-
Not hiding…
If XXX shows up, I’ll advise him of two things. If he threatens me, first he’ll spend the next year in a hospital; secondly – He’ll spend the next five years in prison (minimum.)
It’s simple, it really is.
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Unless XXX is a gang member…..
Nola let’s ‘em skate…
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No gang members here, just some druggies and users.
There were some Tre Five Sevens and Crips, but I think they live above 17th street or did.
“MaxGrobnik
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:49 pm | Permalink
After Government takes our assets, Government will decide:
1)When or If we retire.
2)How much (if any) of our own money we are allowed to receive each month. A means test will be used to determine how much we get. Some will get MORE then they paid in. Others will get LESS then they paid it. ALL WILL BE EQUALIZED.
3)After we die, the Government will keep whatever is left, if any is left. Your spouse and kids are SOL.”
OK Che.
Viva la revolution!
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bth
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
I seem to recall XXX is Patriot Guard.
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Didn’t know that…
Knew that Raptor is/was.
Obese Teddy Kennedy is first up in Obama’s first week with Universal Health Care. Also kiss goodbye to your 401k plan as it goes into the social security accounts, higher taxes, slave repriations payments to blacks, downsizing the military, and pulling out of Iraq, just for starters. About the Swimmer here.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/24/kennedy-secretly-crafts-health-care-plan/
More on the McCain campaign hoax:
“Bryant said somebody charged with making a false report would typically be cited and sent a summons. But because police have concerns about Todd’s mental health, they are consulting with the Allegheny County District Attorney. She remained in custody and was awaiting arraignment.
Todd worked in New York for the College Republican National Committee before moving two weeks ago to Pennsylvania, where her duties included recruiting college students, the committee’s executive director, Ethan Eilon, has said.”
So – she is a nutcase and the McCain campaign moves her around so they can take full advantage of her. Cute!
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9411R800&show_article=1
Drudge retracted. Have the rest of the right-wing talkers done so?
-Pittsburgh
-worst
-state
-ever.
Still no statement from Hannity.
And he was complicit in this, at least in that he gave it air without due investigation.
House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks
Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.
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October 16, 2008
House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks
Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.
House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.
A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered. She testified last week before Miller’s Education and Labor Committee on her proposal.
At that hearing, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, Peter Orszag, testified that some $2 trillion in retirement savings has been lost over the past 15 months.
Under Ghilarducci’s plan, all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration. The money in turn would be invested in special government bonds that would pay 3 percent a year, adjusted for inflation.
The current system of providing tax breaks on 401(k) contributions and earnings would be eliminated.
“I want to stop the federal subsidy of 401(k)s,” Ghilarducci said in an interview. “401(k)s can continue to exist, but they won’t have the benefit of the subsidy of the tax break.”
http://www.workforce.com/section/00/article/25/83/58.php
To be fair, Hannity ( or maybe Colmes) was smart enough not to put the hoax on TV.
Con radio rants Mike Savage and Mark Levin gave the story air though.
Max – as noted above, they simply heard one person’s opinion. There is zero evidence they are planning to enact it.
BlueJay – Hannity knows that if he put it on TV that Colmes would then be trumpeting it when his hoax was discovered. On his radio show he has no such counter-point.
biased1
Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
-Pittsburgh
-worst
-state
-ever.
Ummm….State?
MaxGrobnik,
Teresa Ghilarducci’s “plan” has already been posted multiple times near the top of thread.
Pittsburgh is a fine city. Too bad the McCain campaign imported this Texan to try to sully its reputation.
I hope they destroy her for her malicious actions.
bith-
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink
Pittsburgh is a fine city.
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Yeah right, if you like loosers!
True that ben.
I want to say a good word here for SOME, that is SOME of the con bloggers.
I know there had to be a few about when this hoax story was first breaking. And I KNOW it had to be damned tempting to get in on it. For whatever reason you didn’t, good on you.
OUCH! MSNBC just called the hoaxer a racist and a fraud.
Like I say, she wanted attention? She’s got it.
biased1,
Who is the governor of Pittsburgh? And name the capital city of Pittsburgh.
Cosmos,
Your Global Warming Bullsiht has already been posted 10,000,000 frickin times.
BluaJay – watch now as the righties complain because we are pcking on her.
Correct, BTH.
Just think if only the CONs had succeeding in “piratizing” Social Security two years ago.
Social Security funds would be DOWN forty percent.
Max breathlessly reports on a report to a subcommittee and ignores the huge financial catastrophe that privatizing SS would have been.
Thank God, the Democrats stopped the madness.
Biased, I would be LMAO if I were you…he ha he..cosmos…ha he ha!
Will Mccain call the girl and retract his best wishes, and speedy recovery?
Does Boxlock have the fortitude to issue an apology to all the dems he tried to slander?
Will Boxlock be so quick to fall for his party’s next hoax? You Betcha.
A change of topic. This FDIC regulator definitely knows her stuff:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/24/real_estate/indymac_solution/index.htm?postversion=2008102414
One failed bank gets the housing fix right
When the FDIC seized mortgage lender IndyMac it was one of the biggest bank failures ever. Now the Calif.-based outfit might just help lead us out of the housing mess.
NEW YORK (Money) — The battered economy is in desperate need of a housing fix, and one failed bank just may have the answer.
Yesterday FDIC Chairwoman Sheila Bair told the Senate Banking Committee about the success her agency has had in helping struggling borrowers at IndyMac, which the FDIC took over this summer.
Bair, the nation’s leading bank regulator, thinks this foreclosure prevention program can work for other banks.
“Our hope is that the program we announced at IndyMac Federal will serve as a catalyst to promote more loan modifications for troubled borrowers across the country,” she told the committee.
She’s not alone. While individual lenders, loan servicers and non-profit foreclosure prevention outfits have been chipping away at the staggering housing crisis on a case by case basis, IndyMac, under the FDIC’s leadership, became the first bank to establish a set protocol to modify home loans.
Speeding the process
“I think this is an appropriate way to go, and I would hope that more institutions would take it up,” said Michael Barr, professor of law at University of Michigan and a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. “We need a systematic way to do this, we can’t continue to do this on a one-by-one basis.”
Chris Kukla, senior council for government affairs at the Center for Responsible Lending, points out that this is precisely how Congress approached the recent Wall Street bailout.
“We aren’t sitting down on an individual basis and figuring out who needs what,” he said. “The government is giving a piece to everyone because there is a recognition that we need to stabilize the financial markets. Well, we need to stabilize the housing market too.”
IndyMac services more than 60,000 loans that are either more than 60 days past due, in bankruptcy, in foreclosure or are otherwise not currently being paid. About two-thirds of those customers are eligible for the program, according to Bair, and more than 3,500 IndyMac borrowers have had their loans modified to affordable levels so far. Borrower payments have been cut on average by $380, she said.
Currently most lenders assess each loan on a case-by-case basis, which takes a tremendous amount of time and resources, and can hold up the process for months. Establishing set rules that a lender can apply to thousands of borrowers will speed the process, and help right the housing market more quickly
Under IndyMac’s program, the lender modifies a loan so that the borrower’s new mortgage payment, including insurance and taxes, eats up no more than 38% of their pre-tax income. This percentage, known as a debt to income ratio, topped 50% for some loans during the boom.
To achieve this lower payment, IndyMac can lower the interest rate, extend the life of the loan to, say, 30 or 40 years, defer some principal to the final years of the loan, or a use a combination of these strategies.
IndyMac is also trying to simplify the process for borrowers. It is overnighting loan forms to eligible customers with a signature required upon receipt. “It doesn’t show up with your regular mail, coupons and junk mail, because the key is getting the consumer to open it,” said FDIC spokesman David Barr.
The papers clearly spell out a borrower’s new loan terms, including the interest rate and monthly payments over the life of the loan. The borrower simply signs and returns the documents with the first lower monthly payment.
B of A follows suit
Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500) launched a similarly systematic program earlier in October. That program, scheduled to start in December, came as part of a settlement with state attorney general offices that sued Countrywide, which B of A recently acquired, for predatory lending practices. It’s expected to help 400,000 troubled borrowers and is actually slightly more aggressive than IndyMac’s plan.
B of A will use a 34% debt-to-income ratio to calculate the affordable monthly payment for its customers, and may also write down the principal balance of some negative amortizing loans. IndyMac will not forgive debt, but instead will add principal to the final years of a loan if necessary.
Additionally, IndyMac’s program is now being applied to many delinquent loans owned by Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500), Fannie Mae (FNM, Fortune 500) and other investors, Bair said in her testimony Thursday.
Not everyone is convinced that Bair’s brainchild should be the industry-wide template.
Thomas Lawler, a housing economist in Leesburg, Virginia, contends that lenders need to look at a borrower’s other assets in addition to their debt to income ratio before working out a loan. “Otherwise, they will include people who shouldn’t really qualify, and might exclude people who do,” he said. “That is one reason why mortgage lenders don’t particularly like to have a very simple systematic streamlined modification, because it doesn’t work.”
For example, a borrower with substantial additional assets and no other debt may have taken out a big mortgage that eats up 45% of his income. There is a risk that the program will aid this borrower, and not someone with a smaller mortgage and no other assets who also has student and car loans.
But the Center for Responsible Lending’s Chris Kukla argues that the crisis is too severe to worry about helping people who don’t deserve aid.
Indeed, earlier this month The State Foreclosure Prevention Working Group, a group of state attorneys general and banking regulators, sent a letter to nearly 20 of the largest servicers telling them that they were expected to implement a systematic approach to modify loans similar to IndyMac and Bank of America.
“We aren’t getting push back yet, but we haven’t gotten any firm commitments yet either,” said Iowa Attorney General and task-force chair Tom Miller. “But there is a willingness to talk.”
“This is the best idea out there to stop the bleeding in subprime lending,” Miller said. “We think it is the best thing we can do at this point.”
First Published: October 24, 2008: 2:15 PM ET
Half the republicans will stick with the story she was attacked.
Will McCain apologize to the citizens of Pittsburgh for his campaign sending the lying Texan there to damage its reputation?
One Social Security privatization investment option Capn, would have been – wait for it -
US Savings Bonds.
For those who did not want to invest in stocks.
And unless y’all think there will be ZERO private industry left in America, there will still be profits to be made in stocks and bonds.
Now you Socialists, would have Government own everything, then of course, there would be no other investment options, but one – Government.
One Social Security privatization investment option Capn, would have been – wait for it -
US Savings Bonds.
For those who did not want to invest in stocks.
And unless y’all think there will be ZERO private industry left in America, there will still be profits to be made in stocks and bonds.
Now you Socialists, would have Government own everything, then of course, there would be no other investment options, but one – Government.
Heh
Ben I don’t think they want to talk about her or the hoax.
TOO bad. This is too important to pass over.
But in a Free Country, who needs Investment Options?
cosmos_originally
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:09 pm | Permalink
biased1,
Who is the governor of Pittsburgh? And name the capital city of Pittsburgh
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Rosnen..something, kid about 20 (demorat)..
and…
uh..
Three Rivers?
I bet she drove a Subaru wagon with lots of bumper stickers. That is usually a good indicator of kookiness. This is in reference to the ‘hoax girl’.
How did she end up in Pittsburgh from New York from Texas? Are there any laws about transporting someone across state lines to participate in a criminal enterprise?
Vaughn or one of our legal experts?
What if there HAD been violence because of the hoax? Would the hoaxer or any accomplices face further charges? Since the hoax went viral on the internet, would state lines figure in further charges?
I guess what I am trying to figure here is how big a fire someone can light vs. what charges they would face.
Who blacked her eyes, a co-conspirator, or just a pissed off campaign mgr. because she wasn’t bringing in enough fraudulent registrations? There’ more to the story than meets the eye.
“But the Center for Responsible Lending’s Chris Kukla argues that the crisis is too severe to worry about helping people who don’t deserve aid”
Financially responsible? Uh, no.
CraponAmerica
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink
Correct, BTH.
Just think if only the CONs had succeeding in “piratizing” Social Security two years ago.
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“piratizing” is what has been going on with Social Security since its inception….
But you just TRY campaigning on a “lock box”……
She must’ve been schooled in Rovian campaign tactics.
Phatmom
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:25 pm | Permalink
Who blacked her eyes?
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Probably a pi$$ed off boyfriend that told her twice not to go……
Any retraction from Hannity yet? Limbaugh? OReilley?
Unless she took the picture and posted to the internet entirely on her own, there is at least one other person involved. That goes to conspiracy.
‘Tweets Give Race-Baiting Hoaxster a ‘B’ for Effort‘
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/college-republi.html
“On Friday, commenters started using the tag to broadcast their disgust, causing the sarcastic tweets to be automatically displayed on the Republican site.
…
“Hmm, it was an okay Obama frame-job, just a few inconsistencies snagged you,” wrote another tweeter. “Overall I’d give you a ‘B’.” “
I’m wondering about the blackened eyes. Who was responsible for the same? There are many questions remaining, and likely few answers.
BlueJay, I’m of the thought that had there been violence from the hoax, those committing the violence would be responsible for that criminally; I don’t see where the young woman would have any culpability for that in a criminal way.
Nothing from Hannity.
I don’t know how much Limbaugh said about it.
vt – could she be cited for incitement?
That’s sort of a distressing thought vaughn.
She and whoever else may have been involved could have caused a lot of ….mayhem.
At worst, assuming she doesn’t get off on a psych defense, what is she facing?
On the picture that was posted on the internet; I thought that picture was from the press or released by the police in Pittsburgh. I don’t think we need to be looking for a conspiracy in this case; rather than that, we should be hoping that the young woman receives any psychological help she might need.
BeeJay-
-biggest
-crying
-babby
-ever.
get over it.
Did Boxlock ever come back to eat crow?
bth, if there was an intent on her part to incite a riot or whatever, yes; if this was an ill-conceived ploy for attention designed to cast doubt on the Obama/Biden campaign, no.
BlueJay, she’s facing at most right now a misdemeanor charge for filing a false police report. Likely a fine and perhaps probation.
What I wonder is whether the young woman was in Pittsburgh (and not attending classes) without the knowledge of her parents and was caught up in the incident that caused the black eyes, and she was looking for a “spectacular” way out of a predicament.
I think at worst she could be charged with filing a false police report, but since there’s questions as to her psych., I think she’ll get off with some court ordered treatment. Obama ought to be a nice guy and offer to pay for it if Mccain doesn’t.
YIKES!
The blogosphere is alive with “who took the picture?”
Did Boxlock ever come back to eat crow?
No, and I ain’t holding my breath either.
On seeing the picture and reading the account, you almost had to WANT to believe.
Scary thing is, plenty of people did.
vt – she was in Pittsburgh on behalf of the Republican Party
“Todd worked in New York for the College Republican National Committee before moving two weeks ago to Pennsylvania”
And, it seems she had help:
“Todd told police she didn’t seek medical attention, but instead went to a friend’s apartment nearby and called police about 45 minutes later”
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9411R800&show_article=1
Latest McCain Hoax-
“Middle Class Tax Cut” (but they think its a “copy-cat” hoax from the Nobama camp..)
film at 11…
I remember yesterday saying the whole thing reminded me of the tawana Brawley hoax.
BeeJay- Scary thing is, plenty of people did.
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Probably less than:
People that believe in the easter bunny.
People that believe in the tooth fairy.
People that believe in santa.
People that believe in UFOs
People that believe a republican is going to cut your taxes.
People that believe that a demorat is going to cut your taxes.
now THATS scarry.
bth, it was my understanding that is why she was in Pittsburgh; it wasn’t clear that her parents knew it, or that she wasn’t in school.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_595052.html
is a link to “the latest” story as being reported. It seems that there is a history of psychological problems in her life. I note that she took a shot at the media for creating a “political firestorm” from the incident.
It COULD just be wishful thinking.
But some how I have the feeling there is more to know one way or another.
“Todd worked in New York for the College Republican National Committee before moving two weeks ago to Pennsylvania, where her duties included recruiting college students, the committee’s executive director, Ethan Eilon, has said”
While the writing is a bit convulated, I believe this means that she worked recruiting college students in New York, before moving two weeks ago to Pennsulvania, where she did not work for the
College Republican National Committee.
I have seen lots of these sentence structure. I even do them myself sometimes. Just my take on what was said. I could always be wrong.
BlueJay
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:56 pm | Permalink
It COULD just be wishful thinking.
It IS wishful thinking. You want it so bad.
lj, my reading of the convoluted sentence brings me to a similar conclusion.
Wipe the froth from your mouth BlueJay, it is clear this kook needs mental help.
No sign of XXX or Regular. Having a heart to heart chat?
avtolle-
It is a shame that they don;t make kids diagram sentences any more. It is also a shame that I don’t also do what I know to do.
sorry, I put this on the wrong thread.
“My guess why the B is Backwards. She did to herself, while looking in the mirror. Sad.
“littlejohn
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:57 pm | Permalink
BlueJay
Posted October 24, 2008 at 3:56 pm | Permalink
It COULD just be wishful thinking.
It IS wishful thinking. You want it so bad.”
Sorry, that was uncalled for. My bad.
Shes a super freak…super freak…shes super freaky…yow
the kind you don’t take home to motha!
” I note that she took a shot at the media for creating a “political firestorm” from the incident”
Wasn’t it her and her allies who played it up so much?
She’s pullin’ the ol’ “bait n switch”.
She’s pullin’ the ol’ “bait n switch”.
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ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
No sign of XXX or Regular. Having a heart to heart chat?
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Naw, took a short nap. I knew he would show up. XXX lost his balls years ago when he turned Lib.
er wouldn’t show up
Glad to hear there was no confrontation.
WaterWalk Place Grand Opening
Date: October 24, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
Mayor, Council to attend
Wichita Mayor Carl Brewer and members of the Wichita City Council will participate in the grand opening and ribbon cutting for WaterWalk Place, a seven-story mixed use building located at 515 S. Main.
The event, open to the public from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m., commemorates the opening of the first mixed used building in downtown Wichita in two decades.
WaterWalk Place features 12,500 square feet of ground level office space, whose current occupants include WaterWalk, Inc., headquarters, the Wichita Convention and Visitors Bureau and the Wichita Sports Commission.
It also includes 16,000 square feet of retail space and 46 luxury condominium homes. A five-story parking garage is also incorporated into the development.
Three of the luxury condominiums will be open for public inspection. The grand opening ceremony and ribbon cutting will take place in the rooftop lounge.
The ribbon cutting will take place at 2 p.m. and will include comments by Mayor Brewer, WaterWalk co-owner and developer David Burk and WaterWalk, Inc., President Tom Johnson.
The entire WaterWalk project is a $123.8 million mixed-used development located on the eastern shore of the Arkansas River in downtown Wichita, bounded by waterman on the north, Kellogg Street to the south and Main Street to the east.
The master plan for the 25-acre site includes an “urban village” including about 250,000 square feet of retail space, 200,000 square feet of office space and residential housing.
13th Street to Close for One Week Friday Oct. 31 until Friday Nov. 7
Date: October 24, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
Road construction work will force a one-week closing of 13th Street between Santa Fe and Barwise beginning Friday, Oct. 31.
The affected area is just east of the new elevated central railroad corridor bridge. During the closure, Dondlinger & Sons Construction Company, Inc., will lower the at-grade crossing to match the new roadway and replace the pavement.
Re-opening is anticipated on Friday, Nov. 7. Traffic will be detoured to Murdock during the closure.
Traffic on 13th Street has been reduced to one lane in each direction at this location since September for removal and replacement on the north side of the street. When re-opened, 13th Street will continue to carry two lanes of traffic until January 2009, while work is done on the south side.
When completed, 13th Street will allow full-height truck clearance of 15 feet, six inches beneath the new railroad bridge. It will also provide four new lanes of concrete pavement, and sidewalks on each side.
This work is part of the City’s downtown Central Railroad Corridor Project that includes new railroad bridges at First, Second, Central, Murdock, and Thirteenth Streets, plus improvements at the Douglas Avenue Bridge.
Work on the Central Corridor began on April 18, 2005, to elevate railroad tracks onto new bridges, while maintaining vehicular traffic below. Final completion, expected in fall of 2009, will noticeably improve downtown traffic flow.
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink
#
ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
No sign of XXX or Regular. Having a heart to heart chat?
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Naw, took a short nap. I knew he would show up. XXX lost his balls years ago when he turned Lib
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Knowing XXX’s abilities, and knowing your reputation, he really wouldn’t need balls to extend your nap time, but, hey, when you spit on superman’s cape . . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0QeWWUJPzk
You be the one climbs out of the car . . . dude:-)
Thank Heavens!
The mean libs didn’t slash ReguLIAR’s tires like last time he was outed.
Don’t you CONs feel like idiots for believing him and sticking up for him?
He’s the WEBlog equivalent of the girl with the B carved into her face, except he has ZERO evidence for his lies and he never apologizes for anything.
Quitting time . . .
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink
#
ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
No sign of XXX or Regular. Having a heart to heart chat?
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Naw, (1) took a short nap. I knew he (2) would show up. XXX lost his balls years ago when he turned Lib.
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yeah, here’s a translation: #2 is true (talk about Freudian), and #1 ain’t, he was scurrying around his sister’s basement checking all the deadbolts locks.
After he had ‘em all bolted, he felt safe enough to come back here and do his usual two things.
One, brag.
Two, post some city news crap out of guilt.
This is the default Regular pattern: keyboard overloads a$$, retreat, brag, appear all innocent and contrite.
“appear all innocent and contrite” = beg to rejoin the human race.
It’s never easy to let him back in, either, since you know you’ll get to replay this fun over and over and over…
littlejohn posted October 24, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I have seen lots of these sentence structure. I even do them myself sometimes. Just my take on what was said. I could always be wrong.
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A less convoluted version. (emphasis added)
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iidrMKZwVNDDlEtkssY6t1xxhg9QD9411DE01
Ethan Eilon, executive director of the College Republican National Committee, told reporters that Todd worked in New York for several months before moving to Pennsylvania two weeks ago to continue working for the group.
Eilon declined to comment on the investigation Friday or to help The Associated Press contact Todd. In a follow-up e-mail, Eilon said, “We think this girl has endured enough and that this is going to be something for her and her family to work through.”
Yep. Speaking of hoaxes….
Freeperville. I KNEW it.
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House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:05:30 PM by Chgogal
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hoaxes and Lies. It’s all you wingnuts have left!
The same people who need the waaaaaaaaambulance EVERY time someone even mentions kos, huffpo or DU
Nitwits AND liars!
Maxie, it isnt anymore true when YOU post it than when that pos heckie posts it!
C0smos-
Thank you for the clarification. It appears I was incorrect. Thanks for the correct information.
“Isnt it amazing how the story first showed up in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette?? Hmmmm…..”
Right!
And on the TV channels in Pittsburgh, and from there to Drudge, and on to several others.
Not one mention was made they were questioning her story early on.
If they treat her equitably nothing much will happen…I mean whatever happened to the girl that got the entire Duke men’s lacrosse season canceled, their school year ended by being thrown out, and criminal charges brought against several of them which carried on for months. Chirp, chirp…..
At least this girl didn’t name anybody that could could be brought up on charges like the Duke case.
And how much questioning of the Duke girl took place by those going after the players heads.
This girl lied, I tend to believe most folks, except for several around here who have proven to be more interested in tearing down than building up, and willing to lie and exaggerate about it if they think it necessary.
Yes, I was wrong in becoming furious over the thought of it, but the news organizations certainly started and fed that.
And quite frankly with all the ACORN crap, and the shooting of a republican party manager’s home it was easy to believe.
OPEC to cut production by 1.5 million bpd.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081024/ts_nm/us_opec_16
It looks like the White House spokesperson is beginning to figure out that market for the commodity of oil isn’t a competitive one. You think?
Boxlock, it didn’t become known, as near as I am able to ascertain, that there were doubts about the young woman’s statement until today; or at least public knowledge of the authorities’ doubts.
I don’t know when the photo hit the internet, but when I first saw it, the backward “B” was enough to cause me to doubt the story as it had been reported.
Max, this concerns you how?
You act in ugly ways, friend.
When asked about he Palin RNC clothes purchase, David Brooks said, “That was just so dumb and crass.”
David Brooks – my favorite conservative.
REAL AMERICANS THINK: Data from the latest Pew Research poll shows that only 25 percent of the public agrees with the centerpiece of the conservative tax program: making all of the Bush tax cuts permanent. In contrast, 62 percent want to either repeal tax cuts for the wealthy while keeping the rest of the cuts (37 percent) or repeal all of the tax cuts (25 percent).
The same poll shows that the public not only doesn’t want to keep all the Bush tax cuts; it is also sympathetic to the idea that tax increases may be necessary to meet vital national priorities such as reforming health care.
The public agrees by 58 percent to 35 percent that the government should guarantee “health insurance for all citizens even if it means raising taxes.”
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/10/opinion_taxes.html
“Yes, I was wrong in becoming furious ..”
No, there is nothing wrong in becoming angry on hearing the story. That was the intention.
Rumors, that is rumors are (and this was just reported on MSNBC) that someone in the McCain communications office was flogging the story to the media. If that is true, you were SUPPOSED to get mad.
But you didn’t have to ignore the evidence in front of your own eyes. You didn’t have to try for yourself and others to twist the evidence to fit the story.
“…the news organizations certainly started and fed that.”
As did you. And I hope you know it and think twice next time. And not just you.
Both sides have been guilty in this sort of thing. THIS particular incident, though, had so much destructive potential. Strings of race hatred, political division, and other baser instincts were plucked. SHAME on Drudge and Hannity and those who ran with it before they knew the facts. Thank goodness the rest of the media had cooler heads.
It’s a reminder what a gift and responsibility the internet is. Good news or bad can travel the world over in seconds with no guarantee the accuraccy other than the best stewardship of the users. I for one intend to remember that.
avtolle,
I immediately thought about the mirror image as being questionable, but as you said NO ONE seemed to question, and I put faith in the integrity of the local news organizations.
Also, if an attacker had taken her down, she lying on her back with him forward of her head, not sitting on her body, and holding her head in position, a right handed person, (75% to 90+% chance) would be in position to form what is to them a correct ‘B’ on the right cheek, just as it was. But looking straight on at her standing would be a mirror image.
She might have had hopes of recognition and grandeur for herself, at 20 years I question if she was out to hurt anyone, instead just make herself important.
If you want to know how pathetic the mcsame campaign has become, check out the first two stories here.
http://crooksandliars.com/
“I question if she was out to hurt anyone, instead just make herself important.”
BlueJay, if only you could say the same for yourself.
You too lack importance, and what’s worse…want to hurt people by being a parasite on them.
Yours is a sad situation as well, yet you like to wallow in it.
You and I heard the story about the same time Box.
Did you hear the story on Hannity, as I did? Or was the net your source?
Hannity wins no points here. He did not mention the story at all today and get this.
Oh this IS cute. On his website? There is no news mention of the fact it was a hoax. There is no apology. There IS a poll posted at 3:50 today, “What phony story have you believed this week?”
The hoax is included with four other stories.
Heheheh.HAHAHAHAHAH.
Maxie sounds just like bigotbox whining about me. I wonder where they get the SAME talking points. Oh but they arent bigoted. Oh no….
“The Dems are holding Congressional Hearings to discuss the taking of private 401k’s according to US News & World Report.”
Link please? Or are you just talkin’ out yer ass again?
I guess freeperville just happened to get the story from US News and World Report? heheheh
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What: Barack the Early Vote Rally
Where: The Gazebo in Riverside Park, at Murdock and West River Blvd. in Wichita
When: 2:30 p.m.
Immediately following the rally, take advantage of the free bus rides to early voting locations in Wichita!
Join Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, former Congressman Dan Glickman, U.S. Senate candidate Jim Slattery and U.S. House candidate Donald Betts as we “Barack the Early Vote” in Wichita on Saturday!
http://www.ksdp.org/node/5477
Anybody wanna guess what story Olberman, and Rachel Maddow will be on tonight?
Worth it to meet you if you are going to be there David. Anybody else?
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH
Maxie, yer a dumbass. The google is your friend.
Here’s a link to the BLOG that asks the question, and then never answers it. It’s the same crap about this professor testifying in Congress.
It is HARDLY “Congressional Hearings to discuss the taking of private 401k’s”
Jesus WEPT. Can you read? Or do you just swallow whatever freeperville tells you?
Like I said. Nothing but lies and conspiracy theories that have as much credibility as the mcsame campaign worker who lied about being attacked.
Jesus. You people are REALLY desperate!
Sorry, the link didnt go through. Trying again.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/10/23/would-obama-dems-kill-401k-plans/comments/
Back later. I got my ballot today.
Ya’ll can come right on in the voting booth with me while I fill it out.
The woman has a history of mental problems, it turns out. Hrmmm.. no. I won’t say it. Most McCain supporters are just wrong.
The real story is achieving true change in America’s course…
Renewable energy
Tax fairness for working people
Jobs
War and Peace
Let’s take the high road, friends…
Hey kfg
They charged Ashley the self mutilator for McCain with “filing a false police report”.
Dedicated to John Sydney McCain and the Bush 26%’ers:
He’s a real nowhere Man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
Doesn’t have a point of view,
Knows not where he’s going to,
Isn’t he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere Man, please listen,
You don’t know what you’re missin’,
Nowhere Man, the world is at your command.
(lead guitar)
He’s as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere Man can you see me at all?
Nowhere Man, don’t worry,
Take your time, don’t hurry,
Leave it all ’till somebody else
lends you a hand.
Doesn’t have a point of view,
Knows not where he’s going to,
Isn’t he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere man please listen,
you don’t know what your missin’
Nowhere Man, the world is at your command
He’s a real Nowhere Man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
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JMWalker
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:47 pm | Permalink
Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink
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ANTI
Posted October 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
No sign of XXX or Regular. Having a heart to heart chat?
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Naw, took a short nap. I knew he would show up. XXX lost his balls years ago when he turned Lib
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Knowing XXX’s abilities, and knowing your reputation, he really wouldn’t need balls to extend your nap time, but, hey, when you spit on superman’s cape . . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0QeWWUJPzk
You be the one climbs out of the car . . . dude:-)
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Naw. XXX would be the one clutching at his throat gasping for air and limping on the busted knee I give him.
I’m very adept at Tae Kwon Do. :)
“Did you hear the story on Hannity, as I did? Or was the net your source?”
No BlueJay, I did not hear or pick it up on Hannity, the net, actually a Pittsburgh TV station.
I saw it on Drudge before they even had a story, only saying “Developing” and no link. Since they said Pittsburgh I Google’d the story line and ‘Pittsburgh’ and it immediately came up on the website of a local TV channel news section.
They acted as if it was a “done deal’.
As I said up thread, I immediately saw the mirrored ‘B’, but from the story it said she was thrown to the ground and attacked with a knife there. Again, if an attacker is above her, her lying on her back and him above and on her head end, he would be in a position to to make a ‘B’ that would appear as a mirror image looking straight on.
There is a lot of anger about this election, to bad it is driving us apart.
Example:
Republican HQ Manager’s Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
http://www.local6.com/politics/17784129/detail.html
Enjoy.. . John McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director told reporters in the state an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established — and even told reporters outright that the “B” carved into the victim’s cheek stood for “Barack,” according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions.
John Verrilli, the news director for KDKA in Pittsburgh, told TPM Election Central that McCain’s Pennsylvania campaign communications director gave one of his reporters a detailed version of the attack that included a claim that the alleged attacker said, “You’re with the McCain campaign? I’m going to teach you a lesson.”
The TV Clip from KDKA, Ch. 2, Pittsburgh had the report posted last night. The report was quite clear that the story was under full investigation, and that investigators were unclear about much of what was alleged to have happened —-
The printed article DID mention thatt there were some doubts… but that the investigation would be pursued further…
It seems most intriguing to me that one of McCain’s campaign workers was the one who gave the gruesome details to KDKA news….
I think it sort of smells like a rat somewhere on the fringes of the story….
David are you saying that McCains camp fabricated the story?
If so they should be charged along with Ashley.
Chas it was on CBS news a half hour ago that the girl’s been charged with filing a false police report.
What’s the status on that young, female reporter that got attacked?
No the mentally disturbed women, stoked by the extremist’s rhetoric did it on her own, I suspect.
The McCain spokesman – part of McCain’s team – who touted the story should be fired and denounced.
kfg, you mentioned this reminded you of Tawana Brawley. I think a better analogous case happened a couple of years ago. Involved a KU religion professor who was also involved with the atheist students group. He had been catching flak for sending emails around ridiculing religion and the religious. He then made up a story about getting hit by a couple of people on a lonely country road. Likely gave himself a couople of black eyes. Just googled. Paul Mirecki was his name.
It happens and I ‘m sure it is symptomatic of some mental quinky dink.
Regular…the woman apparently is still critical:
http://www.katv.com/news/stories/1008/564231.html
“It’s never easy to let him back in, either, since you know you’ll get to replay this fun over and over and over…”
That cycling dynamic kind of reminds one of what battering husbands do. That and the fact that his behavior is always the fault of others is also like wife-beater-think.
But as a precautionary note, I don’t think anyone who posts here is how they are in R.L. Well, few at least – which would allow for the Maxes of this world.
“What’s the status on that young, female reporter that got attacked?”
Somewhere today I heard she was not a target; she was selected at random. ??? How would they know this without knowing who did it.
Not even sure if I got that from a TV or radio report, I was business with something at the time
“Likely gave himself a couople of black eyes. Just googled. Paul Mirecki was his name.”
outlander,
If I recall correctly, people thought it was a faked attack. But I did not think that was ever established as fact. I could be wrong, though. He was one pretty immature guy as I remember.
John McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director.. Penn. is the state that Murtha indicated had lots of residual racism. So McCain’s man was deliberately trying to feed this on McCain’s behalf….
Shameless.
John McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director.. Penn. is the state that Murtha indicated had lots of residual racism. So McCain’s man was deliberately trying to feed this on McCain’s behalf….
Shameless.
“BlueJay, if only you could say the same for yourself.
“You too lack importance, and what’s worse…want to hurt people by being a parasite on them.
Yours is a sad situation as well, yet you like to wallow in it.”
So, Box, you’ve met and know BlueJay? What you are describing is not the person I know. I’ve only met James, but is was my decided impression that he is nothing like what he posts here.
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Regular
Posted October 24, 2008 at 6:11 pm | Permalink
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Naw. XXX would be the one clutching at his throat gasping for air and limping on the busted knee I give him.
I’m very adept at Tae Kwon Do. :)
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Right, and I’m adept at brain surgery, which I’d put up against your Tae Kwon Dont any day. Hahahahahaha!!!
Did you see a copy of today’s Kansas City Star?
Rep. Dennis Moore…has clearly earned another term. As the nation faces a host of difficult challenges at home and abroad, his knowledge and clear thinking on critical issues are needed in Washington more than ever.
Moore has consistently shown good judgment in Washington, earning re-election in the heavily Republican district by weighing each issue on its merits and taking a common-sense approach.
He’s the best choice again this November.
In his last two campaigns for the U.S. Senate, Pat Roberts has won endorsements from this newspaper. With a folksy manner and a delightful sense of humor, he is a popular figure in Kansas.
We, too, enjoy his jokes. But we believe the senator has made serious mistakes in his current Senate term, tying himself too closely to the now-discredited Bush administration as it went astray on the Iraq war, deficit spending, health care, civil liberties and other key issues.
So it’s time for some Kansas accountability. The better choice in this race is Jim Slattery…
Thanks Steven.
But I think Boxlock has pretty much destroyed himself here. He can’t even go a graceful, “Sorry, I f’d up”
His comment you reference? He made it in reference to words I didn’t even post.
Franklin does not seem to be much about. Regular filled the second role. And with Boxlock, the Stooges are complete.
Well, I’d say that communications director should be fired. Ah then again maybe not. Keep the team intact for the impending defeat.
Woman jailed who lied about bumper-sticker-linked attack
Posted: 07:54 PM ET
(CNN) — A GOP campaign worker who made up a story about being attacked by a man angered by a John McCain bumper sticker on her car was being held in a Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania-area jail Friday night, CNN has learned.
Ashley Todd, 20, of College Park, Texas, has been charged with filing a false police report, a misdemeanor, and may face more charges, said Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard at a news conference. Todd is incarcerated at the Allegheny County Jail but had not been arraigned Thursday night.
StevenEDavis
Posted October 24, 2008 at 6:42 pm | Permalink
But as a precautionary note, I don’t think anyone who posts here is how they are in R.L.
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Thanks for that, Steven. It’s an excellent (and especially apt) point, one that I tend to forget all too easily here.
Keith Olberman confirms that reporters quoted McCain’s campaign with the story of Ashley Todd. McCain’s camp MADE UP the story to incite racial hatred.
The girl was a pawn in McCain’s game.
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mxyzptlk
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:25 pm | Permalink
Keith Olberman confirms that reporters quoted McCain’s campaign with the story of Ashley Todd. McCain’s camp MADE UP the story to incite racial hatred.
The girl was a pawn in McCain’s game.
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Funny. Some folks took and ran with the original story and caught hell for it. And now; the mixed up alphabet person is doing the same thing.
Hypocrisy anyone?
Was the girl not a McCain staffer? Would they not be one of the first to know? Dummies everywhere.
Outlander-
the point is that the story was not hers…the McCain camp didn’t repeat what she said. They MADE it up. The rape, the knife, the Black man. THEY made it up.
And you know this how?
No outlander. mxyzptlk is running with the TRUTH. The McCaiacs were running with their LIES.
Be careful mxyzptlk.
Consider the timeline.
It SEEMS the McCain comm director began flogging this yesterday afternoon.
But the hoax supposedly happened Wednesday night.
That said? Given what Vaugn told us, why is the hoaxer in jail? For a misdemeanor?
My guess is they are leaning on her to sing because there IS more. But let’s not get ahead of it.
You’re right Blue. However if it acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc.
The McCain camp is melting down to this: race baiting, race hatred, racism.
“I don’t think anyone who posts here is how they are in R.L.” Huh???
What is this, the SIMS???? Whahahahhaahha
Evidence has emerged that Sen. Barack Obama
belonged to a socialist political party that sought to elect members to public office with the aim of moving the Democratic Party far leftward to ultimately form a new political party with a socialist agenda
Regular, in case you were not aware of it, that is part of the Neo-Conservatives agenda. Though their designs is for the Republican party after failing to turn the Democrats in that direction.
Irving Kristol is a self announced Socialist. We need to take the party back from the Neo-Cons and return it to the real Republicans again.
As vt noted, there were doubts about her story early on. However, the McCain campaign and their fellow travellers in the media were flogging the story far and wide as gospel truth. So, it appears that they KNEW they were spreading lies all along.
Did Hannity ever retract?
What evidence? LOL. Show me. Show me. LOL. You mean like unsubstantiated evidence like all the other falsehoods? Show me. and not some right wing bs blog…
Hannity is flogging socialism with Dick the Toesucker
Hannity and Morris sit there verbally masturbating each other. Priceless..
outlander posted October 24, 2008 at 7:33 pm
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mxyzptlk posted October 24, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Keith Olberman confirms that reporters quoted McCain’s campaign with the story of Ashley Todd. McCain’s camp MADE UP the story to incite racial hatred.
The girl was a pawn in McCain’s game.
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Funny. Some folks took and ran with the original story and caught hell for it. And now; the mixed up alphabet person is doing the same thing.
Hypocrisy anyone?
Was the girl not a McCain staffer? Would they not be one of the first to know? Dummies everywhere.
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Todd was working for the College Republican National Committee, NOT McCain’s campaign.
I posted this upthread at 5:02 [m.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iidrMKZwVNDDlEtkssY6t1xxhg9QD9411DE01
“Ethan Eilon, executive director of the College Republican National Committee, told reporters that Todd worked in New York for several months before moving to Pennsylvania two weeks ago to continue working for the group.
Eilon declined to comment on the investigation Friday or to help The Associated Press contact Todd. In a follow-up e-mail, Eilon said, “We think this girl has endured enough and that this is going to be something for her and her family to work through.”
So Hannity doesn’t want to acknowledge his lies? Why am I not surprised?
“this is going to be something for her and her family to work through.”
I hope the authorities give her plenty of time to do that – IN JAIL. I wonder if McCain will visit her in the pokey.
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bth
Posted October 24, 2008 at 8:40 pm | Permalink
“this is going to be something for her and her family to work through.”
I hope the authorities give her plenty of time to do that – IN JAIL. I wonder if McCain will visit her in the pokey.
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Actually, it’s a victimless crime – with the exception of wasting the police departments time.
Anyone that would mutilate themselves to gain attention, probably needs psychiatric help.
Hannity has not retracted or even mentioned the story.
I’m gonna catch the last few minutes of Savage and the first few of Levin. See what they are up to.
There has to be something up for Ashley Todd to be in jail. What the heck would bail even be on something like this?
Buried Antarctic Mountain Range Shouldn’t Exist at All
An Antarctic mountain range that rivals the Alps in elevation will be probed this month by an expedition of scientists using airborne radar and other Information Age tools to virtually “peel away” more than 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) of ice covering the peaks.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443971,00.html
but, but…cosmos said science knew everything and everything was proven beyond any doubt.
I won’t presume to debate Regular on psychiatric matters as I am sure he has ample patient experience.
Todd isn’t in a hospital. She’s in prison.
McCain’s hopes are nearly dead at this point. Every day this story goes on can’t be good for him. And he’s running out of days.
DavidB
Posted October 24, 2008 at 7:56 pm | Permalink
“I don’t think anyone who posts here is how they are in R.L.” Huh???
What is this, the SIMS???? Whahahahhaahha
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That is actually not a bad analogy. For example, above Regular tells us he is an Tae Kwon Do expert. I don’t know about you, but I have seen few people who require quad canes to walk around who are very good at Bruce Lee type jump kicks.
I am skeptical by nature, so forgive me.
BlueJay posted October 24, 2008 at 8:53 pm
I won’t presume to debate Regular on psychiatric matters as I am sure he has ample patient experience.
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Actually, Regular’s behavior on the WE Blog would make a good psychiatric case study.
“Kansas values”(sic) Regular lies about what others have posted, lies about AGW science, adds false fictional paragraphs to his copy/pastes, seems obsessed with shrunken testes, small penises, etc, switched nics and denied it, and so on . . .
According to CNN, McCain and Palin called Ashley Todd to express their sympathy for what she endured.
Do they check anything out ahead or just react like Pavlov dogs?
Out of touch, erratic, emotional in the face of crisis.
No McCain No way!
‘Report: McCain camp hyped attack tale before truth emerged‘
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Reporter_Attack_hoax_story_first_leaked_1024.html
A link from above page.
‘McCain Communications Director Gave Reporters Incendiary Version Of “Carved B” Story Before Facts Were Known‘
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_aide_gave_reporters_inc.php
Don’t forget TOMORROW!!!
What: Barack the Early Vote Rally
Where: The Gazebo in Riverside Park, at Murdock and West River Blvd. in Wichita
When: 2:30 p.m.
Immediately following the rally, take advantage of the free bus rides to early voting locations in Wichita!
Isn’t it interesting how psychiatric problems are an excuse when its a republican…but not a democrat.
Yes, get the woman help and drop the case. Make sure she’s watched for a good long time, but don’t waste my tax dollars on jailing her without mental treatment.
See, cons, you can do this for others too.
Join Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, former Congressman Dan Glickman, U.S. Senate candidate Jim Slattery and U.S. House candidate Donald Betts as we “Barack the Early Vote” in Wichita on Saturday!
about taekwondo- my hubs says taekwondo is for show- they’re too flashy to actually fight. :D.
PMama — you coming down for the rally tomorrow??
“Actually, it’s a victimless crime – with the exception of wasting the police departments time.
Anyone that would mutilate themselves to gain attention, probably needs psychiatric help.”
Defamation and incitement a victimless crime? I don’t think so.
Now, if she turns ’state’s evidence’ and tells everything about her accomplices I might be willing to show mercy.
By the way – I said the same thing about Tawana Brawley when she did the same thing.
“Buried Antarctic Mountain Range Shouldn’t Exist at All”
I don’t know why they say that. We have known for decades about that range. It is believed to have risen when Antarctica was connected toother continents. It only fairly recently ‘floated off on its own’ and ended up at the south pole.
Before the 40s or so such a range would be a real problem to explain. However, plate tectonics has given us a great deal of more understanding. The peninsula is also related to this range where two pieces are ’sutured’ together.
Oh Chas I’d so love to, however, I’m constantly working right now. I can’t hardly get time to see my kids, or even eat a meal… much less do anything else.
LOL! Anybody here call 911, and the police, when traffic isn’t moving?
‘McCain’s brother apologizes for calling 911‘
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081025/D9418G7O0.html
“Frustrated because of the traffic, he called 911 to find out what was going on. The operator asked him to “state your emergency.”
“Well, it’s not an emergency, but do you know why on one side at the damn drawbridge of 95 traffic is stopped for 15 minutes and yet traffic’s coming the other way?,” Joe McCain said.
The operator asked him if he was calling 911 to complain about traffic. McCain then uttered an expletive and hung up the phone.
McCain told WTOP that he thought his cell phone was on mute.
“I did not mean to swear at the officers themselves,” McCain said. If he were in their situation, “it would have really frosted me too and I absolutely understand their reaction.”
After hanging up with 911, McCain said he called Alexandria Police to ask them about the traffic on the bridge and got a similar reaction.”
Night all.
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Political_mama
Posted October 24, 2008 at 9:34 pm | Permalink
about taekwondo- my hubs says taekwondo is for show- they’re too flashy to actually fight. :D.
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It can be for show. It’s quite entertaining to watch as an art form.
I learned the combat style they teach to the Korean Army. Too much freaking exercise though!
Yeah, “Regular” –
I tend to rely on another Oriental form of self-defense.
A Toyota tire iron.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted October 25, 2008 at 12:16 am | Permalink
Yeah, “Regular” –
I tend to rely on anot