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Once again, more facts that utterly destroy the mythological notion of young earth creationism.
New Fossil Reveals Primates Lingered In Texas
ScienceDaily (Oct. 20, 2008) — More than 40 million years ago, primates preferred Texas to northern climates that were significantly cooling, according to new fossil evidence discovered by Chris Kirk, physical anthropologist at The University of Texas at Austin.
Kirk and Blythe Williams from Duke University have discovered Diablomomys dalquesti, a new genus and species of primate that dates to 44-43 million years ago when tropical forests and active volcanoes covered west Texas.
During the early part of the Eocene epoch, primates were common in the tropical forests that covered most of North America. Over time, however, climatic cooling caused a dramatic decline in the abundance and diversity of North American primates. By the end of the Eocene, primates and most tropical species had almost disappeared from North America.
More at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081014111401.htm
The MSM starts reporting on McCain’s ties to a fascist, pro-terrorist organization.
McCain linked to group in Iran-Contra affair
WASHINGTON — Republican Sen. John McCain served on the advisory board to the U.S. chapter of an international group linked to ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America in the 1980s.
The U.S. Council for World Freedom also aided rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua. That landed the group in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which revoked the charitable organization’s tax exemption.
The council created by retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub was the U.S. chapter of the World Anti-Communist League, an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. After setting up the U.S. council, Singlaub served as the international league’s chairman.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/world/latin-america-and-caribbean-politics/story/716035.html
Bad news, CONs –
Turn out the Earned Income Tax Credit was the brainchild of that evil socialist Ronald Reagan!,
In a May 1985 White House speech in which he was pitching his tax-reform proposal which later passed, Reagan said:
“Our plan will also mean an historic correction of a problem we’ve let go on too long — the increasing tax burden on low- and fixed-income Americans that’s been knocking the bottom rungs off the ladder of opportunity. A compassionate, profamily opportunity society should give a break as well to those Americans struggling to get by and move up. And that’s exactly what we intend to do.
By hiking the earned income tax credit, indexing it for inflation, and practically doubling the personal exemption, we can make sure that the working families do not suffer under the burden of Federal taxation. Giving a leg up to those struggling to move up is what America is all about. And that’s a top priority of our tax proposal”
Full story here:
http://tinyurl.com/6qjjno
(chortle)
Monkeyhawk, what else do you expect from a Hollywood elitist?
Barney Frank: Plenty of rich people that we can tax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k
“By hiking the earned income tax credit, indexing it for inflation,…”
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Hiking (increasing)something means it already exists.
Reagan deserves credit for a lot MH, but the earned income tax credit is not one of them.
Being as the Earned Income Tax Credit was enacted in 1975 before Ronald Reagan became President, MonkeyHock must have found a way to warp time.
Of course, revision of history is nothing new for the progressive leftists.
That’s it, “outlander” –
Go defend that socialist Reagan.
And guess who voted for that socialist Reagan’s socialist EITC? That socialist Congressman from Arizona, John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term.
Squirm, CONs, squirm.
You might be a redneck if you live in Congressman Murtha’s district.
After apologizing for calling his constituents ‘racist’ last week, Democratic Rep. John Murtha clarifies his remarks, says people in western Pennsylvania are ‘rednecks.’
These following sites are “PORNOGRAPHY”. They show a lady posing as Sarah Palin. The Lady is Russian. She looks just like Sarah Palin. TMZ blew me off. The sites are, http://www.spankwire.com , then do a search in the window provided and type in Sarah Palin. Also go to http://www.redtube.com/2228 . Again these are Porn Sites. Herbert West 3rd, Candidate for Sheriff, Miami County Kansas. http://www.HerbertWest3rd.com
“Reagan deserves credit for a lot MH.”
What he did for the national debt was just wonderful. U.S. history will curse that wretched man almost as much as it will the current resident of the Whitehouse.
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
Thanks Herb. It is so very difficult to find pornography on the internets.
REAGAN CORNER
On religion’s role in our society
The churches of America do not exist by the grace of the state; the churches of America are not mere citizens of the state. The churches of America exist apart; they have their own vantage point, their own authority. Religion is its own realm; it makes its own claims. We establish no religion in this country, nor will we ever. We command no worship. We mandate no belief. But we poison our society when we remove its theological underpinnings. We court corruption when we leave it bereft of belief. All are free to believe or not believe; all are free to practice a faith or not. But those who believe must be free to speak of and act on their belief, to apply moral teaching to public questions. I submit to you that the tolerant society is open to and encouraging of all religions. And this does not weaken us; it strengthens us. … You know, if we look back through history to all those great civilizations, those great nations that rose up to even world dominance and then deteriorated, declined, and fell, we find they all had one thing in common. One of the significant forerunners of their fall was their turning away from their God. … Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.” –Ronald Reagan
Back to your current candidate, outlander. Joe Klein on the utter hypocrisy of the McCain sleazeball campaign. He’s hired the same guy who slimed him in 2000. You just can’t make this stuff up.
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/incoherence_1.html
“You just can’t make this stuff up”.
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You read some of what gets posted here and you still say that, Steven?
Hey Eagle!! Today is NOT yesterday!!
Saturday 2:30 PM Riverside Park East Side Gazebo on Murdock.
Big Democratic get out the Vote Rally. The Guv.. Jim Slattery… Rep Betts.. Dan Glickman … who knows who else will be there!!
Come on out!!!!
The Guv.. Jim Slattery A.K.A, Mr. Burns.
Come on out, Anti.. See the real candidates, instead of the imaginary straw men you love to criticize. . . .
David, I just think he has a striking resemblance to Mr. Burns. Nothing more.
Also David, I rarely vote (D).
We need a Mr Burns in Washington, instead of Krusty the Clown Roberts!
October 20 Again?
Crap! Two Monday’s this week!
All Working Americans need to make this same decision – figure out how much less you have to work in order to minimize your taxes and maximize your Government Handouts.
The Socialists need a few Capitalists to earn the income, so that they can take it. If we all reduce our productive output, we cut our income, their income, and reduce the products and services that the deadbeats are Hoping they will get from Obamaism.
We see the endless spiral already starting – $150 Billion Stimulus earlier this year, now a $700 Billion buyout for banks, another $150 – $300 Billion Stimulus being considered. Constantly Incurring more Debt to Generate Prosperity is digging your hole deeper in order to get out of it.
The real solution would be for all Americans to WORK to build the ladders needed to get out of that hole. If you work and build a ladder, then you get out of that hole. If not, you stay down there.
The money trees are now rotting wood. And the gravy train has finally run out of steam.
For GMC:
Here is A table of AR’s.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=391332
It’s not exactly the one I had seen before, but it’s close. Good web site, in any case.
No hurry of course, to buy anything before the end of the year. Unless it would be a Christmas present!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_thonzk7-M
Here’s a youtube in which somebody has linked a new McCain ad saying, “the last eight years haven’t worked out too good.”
Then it cuts to McCain on BillO’s show saying, “I voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004. But more than the votes, I campaigned for the guy. I did everything I could to get him elected.”
So, CONs, who’s right?
Bush or McCain.
If you say McCain, then you have to agree that Bush is a miserable failure of a president.
If you say Bush, then McCain is a lying scumbag who won’t support his own party’s president.
Which is it?
Anyone? Anyone?
So, CONs, who’s right?
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You pose a false choice with a false premise and false consequences.
Par for the course with you Capn.
Watch the video, outlander.
It’s only 23 seconds long.
Sure sounds to me like McCain is criticising Bush.
‘Course who are you going to believe, McCain’s voice on the tape or the little voices in your head?
If you’re a CON, you don’t need no steenk’n facts . . .
If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.” –Ronald Reagan
“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” -
Thomas Jefferson
Political Signs. Gordon Bakken spoke before the Wichita city council this morning requesting an ordinance change to allow signs between the street and sidewalk in front of property owners homes.
Councilmember Gray spoke against the change saying that would allow signs in front of peoples homes that did not give permission and also in medians.
I support Bakken’s request and feel it could be dealt with in the ordinance. I would want the property owners permission. Political speech is important and name recognition supports participation in the process.
So, here’s my problem.
Gas is down to $2.289. I’ve got over $100 groceries on my Dillon’s card so I get 32 gallons on my next fillup for 2.189. My moterhome will take about 40 gallons so I can max out the savings.
Do I wait for gas to go down more, or buy now? I’ve got 10 days until my Dillon’s card starts over again so . . . what do you think? Is gas going to continue to go down?
Just wondering.
Outlander your piece from Reagan above was so right on. That is what I have tried to say here several times but never so eloquently. In an class on ethics I took recently the instructor said to imagine a world that had no right or wrong. No laws controlling us. A world where everyone is allowed to determine there own ‘rights’ and ‘wrongs’. A stop sign to one person might be a good idea no so much to the next person.
The same was true for moral choices. When there is no underpinning to give us a sense of morality and everyone makes their own choices chaos would reign. It is a little scary to think of what would happen and Reagan was certainly right in saying that without the forces of morality civilizations have died away.
Deja vu?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/20/AR2008102002292.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Hank,
You are acting like and Evil Speculator. Stop it!
Of course gas is going down. But those who hate speculators should not act like one themselves. Not saying that’s you Hank, but many Libs here blame Evil Speculators for everything.
Hank – oil is down today. However, with the local market I am less sure – we seem to have some price swings that don’t reflect the global markets.
Exactly right OK.
I’ve asked before of the Libs: If Religion is not the foundation for your moral beliefs, then what is the foundation for your moral beliefs?
Whatever one person thinks is right or wrong, may not be to someone else.
Who decides what is right and what is wrong?
Answer:
G O D
Steven – ones man opinion is like an elbow – most of us have at least two of them. Deja vu not so much.
OPEC is holding an emergency meeting because oil dipped below $70 per bbl. Look for prices to go up. Soon.
Steven – I disagree with the link – Goldwater was a much better cabdidate and man than what we are seeing today in the GOP.
“Is gas going to continue to go down?”
I think it will. It should be lower than it is now, due to the cost of oil. It will go down slowly, though.
http://www.oil-price.net/
Our dollar is in better shape, also – which has an impact on oil prices.
Bottom line: It will go down so slowly that buying now vs. a short time later is not a practical consideration. My opinion only.
Wasn’t Hillary a “Goldwater Girl” before she lost her way?
Ben,
I think you are remembering the Goldwater who became sane once he retired. I was a kid, but I recall distinctly in 1964 the electorate was scared to death of Goldwater. We did not, as you have commented many times, get a real good president in 1964. It has something to do with those Texas candidates, I believe.
As Sol mentioned above, OPEC is meeting to decide whether to cut production. But then, bth also mentioned here in Wichita we seem to have fluctuations that reflect something more or different than global markets. Both valid points. I say if you need gas buy it. If you don’t save his time you might next.
bth, we’ve talked about our agreements with regard to Goldwater. He sure warned of today’s political atmosphere accurately, didn’t he? I know of several who are hoping we can someday return to what was.
In my lifetime the two worst presidents both came from the same state.
“Wasn’t Hillary a “Goldwater Girl” before she” found “her way?”
Yes she was. Karl Rove got beat up by a girl for having a Goldwater button. This childhood trauma cemented his evilness, no doubt.
“Wasn’t Hillary a “Goldwater Girl” before she lost her way?”
There are many of us who were Goldwater Girls! And it isn’t us who lost our way, it’s the party.
Rove should have had Hillary beat the snot out of that girl for him Steven.
Steven – good point. I guess being a Southernor I was a bit more familiar with LBJ than some; that is why I supported AuH2O.
A Goldwater-McGovern campaign would have been interesting. Two men who respected one another but who had very different visions for America. Both patriots who respected the other as a patriot.
lindainks55
Posted October 21, 2008 at 10:45 am | Permalink
In my lifetime the two worst presidents both came from the same state.
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Well I know one would be Carter but I can’t remember the other prez from Georgia.
Who decides what is right and what is wrong?
Answer:
G O D
Really? You chat with him lately?
Do you have his e-mail address? I’d like to ask him some questions.
There are many of us who were Goldwater Girls! And it isn’t us who lost our way, it’s the party.
Nailed it.
Those silly dems. Just can’t stop with the racist comments…
Rep. Murtha Clarifies ‘Racist’ Remark, Calls Western Pa. ‘Redneck’
After apologizing for calling his constituents ‘racist’ last week, the Democrat clarifies his remarks, says people in western Pennsylvania are ‘rednecks’
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/21/rep-murtha-calls-western-pa-redneck/
“Do you have his e-mail address? I’d like to ask him some questions.”
Hee hee heeeeee Rage!
have you seen Ellen Degeneres’ routine about her phone conversation with god?
Too funny for words…
MaxGrobnik posted October 21, 2008 at 9:15 am
“All Working Americans need to make this same decision – figure out how much less you have to work in order to minimize your taxes and maximize your Government Handouts.”
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Or you can just do like the hard-working(?) ‘Joe the faux plumber’, and let charity from strangers help pay your taxes, and the license you’re supposed to have to do plumbing work.
‘Radio Hosts Help Joe the Plumber Pay His Taxes‘
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/20/radio-hosts-help-joe-the-plumber-pay-his-taxes/
“Portland’s 1190 KEX’s afternoon News Radio hosts Mark Mason and Dave Anderson succeeded in that goal today, not only raising the $1,200 Joe the Plumber needs to pay his taxes, but also the $500 he’ll need to get his plumber’s license.
In an e-mail to Washington Wire, Mason writes that the hosts spoke to Wurzelbacher and his brother on air tonight to break the news. “We just spoke with Joe (and his brother) LIVE right now…felt that the media was unfair in that they never seemed to ask HIM about his background,” Mason wrote this evening, “He was very grateful for the $$.”
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Why work, when strangers will give you money, after you’ve lied on national TV?
“Rednecks”? Sounds like a little Straight Talk!
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“Who decides what is right and what is wrong?”
I use the Magic Eight Ball, but some grownups are able to decide for themselves…
What a pathetic waste. With everything going on, cosmos is tearing down a plumber.
Damn your mom should be proud of you.
Since God never talks how does one go about finding out what he/she it finds moral? And Religion is responsible for most of the worlds sufferings. I and sure someone will mention the Bible as a source of Morality? With gems like killing your disobedient children, or death for wearing a cotton wool blend Or, Lot offering up to daughter to an angry mob to be gang raped, and he was the moral one in Sodom. Abraham would have his kids taken away and hauled off to the institution after his little human saciface stunt
Cosmos has been all over the Plumber since the Debate one week ago.
WHY IS BIDEN AND OBAMA HIDING?
Linda, DavidB, Rage? I am sure you are concerned about this. Seems Palin is more accessable than either Obama or Biden now:
Palin Becomes Increasingly Accessible To The National Med
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/20/politics/fromtheroad/entry4531447.shtml
“In the past two days alone, Palin has answered questions from her national press corps on three separate occasions. On Saturday, she held another plane availability, and on Sunday, she offered an impromptu press conference on the tarmac upon landing in Colorado Springs. A few minutes later, she answered even more questions from reporters during an off-the-record stop at a local ice cream shop.
By contrast, Biden hasn’t held a press conference in more than a month, and Obama hasn’t taken questions from his full traveling press corps since the end of September. John McCain—who spent most of the primary season holding what seemed like one, never-ending media availability—hasn’t done one since Sept. 23.”
SolDevVB posted October 21, 2008 at 11:33 am
What a pathetic waste. With everything going on, cosmos is tearing down a plumber.
Damn your mom should be proud of you.
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Wrong. ‘Joe the faux plumber’ is only a plumbers assistant, who falsely claimed he was thinking about buying a business that earns > $250,000.
And my mother passed away decades ago.
Barney Frank: ‘The Fundamentals Are Better Than the Psychology’
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
October 20, 2008 – 20:25 ET
Shades of McCain from an unlikely corner . . .
When at the beginning of the current financial mess John McCain declared that “the fundamentals of the economy are strong,” he was roundly lambasted by the MSM, while the Obama campaign called his statement “an enormous mistake.”
So, should we expect the liberal media and the Obama campaign to go after Barney Frank . . . now that he has said something remarkably similar? Discussing the markets with Maria Bartiromo on CNBC this afternoon, Frank declared: “I think it’s clear that the fundamentals are better than the psychology.”
Sorry to hear about your mother. Glad she didn’t live to see the ass you’ve become.
SolDevVB,
An “ass” is plumbers assistant who falsely claims that he is a plumber, and is thinking about buying a plumbing business that earns > $250,000.
Is he running for office? Does his career impact your life? But you gleefully tear him down. You, are an ass.
You forgot to post that he got 3 days detention in the 8th grade cosmos. You’re slipping.
TomPaine,
You should understand that the people depicted in the Bible are not portrayed as perfect. In fact not all of them even followed the God of the Bible even though they are portrayed in the Bible. There are as many who rebelled against God their entire life. Some rebelled at only certain times of weakness.
Does this mean that every action of any character should be one that we should follow? To the contrary.
There are only a few Biblical characters for which no sin can be found. These characters can serve as role models but none is truly perfect. The Bible is clear that the only sinless human being that has ever lived or ever will live is Jesus Christ who is the son of God.
For a Christian, one should follow the example of all Biblical Characters and all men and women in general only as they compare to the character of God and his son Christ.
Heckler-
NO. Barney Frank is a Democrat.
cosmos
I realize this may be difficult for you to fathom. In some states you don’t have to be licenced as long as you work with a licensed plumber.
And who says you have to be a licensed plumber to own a plumbing company? You just need licensed people working for you.
You can’t argue with the guys question to Obama so you demonize and defame him. Lotsa balls you got there girl.
HAHAHA! Go Michelle!
http://minnesotaindependent.com/14022/bachmann-controversy-upends-views-of-her-re-election-prospects
SolDevVB,
Don’t you get it? It doesn’t matter if Joe the Plumber really lied or not.
Cosmos will twist what people say, get hung up on technicalities, and then label everyone a liar.
That is what Cosmos does.
LOL! The wingnut hack learns that the company he is buying in his imagination is going to get a TAX CUT, and he says, “Sounds like socialism to me.”
Not reality-based.
Then they buy him a suit, put him on Fox, and then he gets a HANDOUT from fellow wingnuts for the taxes the poor working man could not afford to pay on his own.
WHAAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!
This guy is supposed to be some kind of inspiration?
As far as working people go, he’s a Judas Goat.
DavidB,
Are you concerned with the fact that Obama and Biden are now less accessable to the media than Palin?
You were making quite the fuss about this the other day.
Rage, Did you read some of the comments from the article you linked at The Minnesota Independent? Good read.
Heckler posted October 21, 2008 at 12:03 pm | Permalink
cosmos
I realize this may be difficult for you to fathom. In some states you don’t have to be licenced as long as you work with a licensed plumber.
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Then ‘Joe the faux plumber’ should move, and work in one of those states.
‘I’m Not A Plumber, But I Play One On TV‘
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/10/im_not_a_plumbe.html
But even that’s not true, according to the Toledo Division of Building Inspection. Wurzelbacher can’t legally do plumbing work without a license, regardless of his boss’s certification.
A staff person with the Toledo Division of Building Inspection told On Call this afternoon that her division will contact Wurzelbacher to notify him that he can’t work without a license.
“We’re trying to track him down,” she said.
…
According to Joseph, Newell Plumbing & Heating is far from a $250K-a-year operation. Newell is running “a two-man shop,” he said. “This is not a thriving business.”
Isn’t there a chance it could be worth $250K? “Oh, God no,” Joseph said. “Maybe if he sells him the house, the garage.” He explained that the address for the business “is where the man lives at.”
“The real Joe Plumbers are for Barack,” Joseph added. “
Linda,
You too seemed pretty concerned that Palin was not very accessable to the media.
Turns out that she is more accessable to the media than Obama or Biden are now!
Nathaniel, I commented on this same article yesterday when littlejohn brought it to the blog. I covered what I think about that subject and have nothing new to add today.
Cosmos
All that trouble to deflect from the true problem. Obama accidently said what he was really thinking.
Spread the wealth around.
So sad.
Nathaniel posted October 21, 2008 at 12:06 pm | Permalink
SolDevVB,
Don’t you get it? It doesn’t matter if Joe the Plumber really lied or not.
Cosmos will twist what people say, get hung up on technicalities, and then label everyone a liar.
That is what Cosmos does.
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Nathaniel,
Are you claiming that ‘Joe’ lied later, when he admitted that he did not have any solid plans to buy that business? ‘Joe’ and the owner talked about it six years ago when ‘Joe’ interviewed for a job.
Did ‘Joe’ lie later, when he admitted that the business earns < $250,000?
lindainks55
Posted October 21, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
Nathaniel, I commented on this same article yesterday when littlejohn brought it to the blog. I covered what I think about that subject and have nothing new to add today.
Nathaniel, she didn;t really answer the question, just pointed out the ineptness and lack of substance to Palins answers. Something I actually agree.with. However, She did not discuss the aloofness of Obama and Biden from questions by the press. Which was the point
Linda,
Your complaint and many others was that Palin was not giving interviews…etc. i.e. she was basically hiding.
Now we show you how she is more accesable to the press than either Biden or Obama are and your only response is that she didn’t give any good information?
At least she is talking to the press.
DavidB and Cosmos dance.
TWIST AND SHOUT!!!
Sooo…. We have socialism, spreading the wealth around… Don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtain. Let’s talk about a plumber. Yeah. We get it.
What were your words Linda?
Palin is not going to make it past the receptionist for the job?
Well, isn’t answering questions and being available part of seeking the job, not just “interviews?”
Well, it appears that by your standards you should be questioning Obama and Biden.
Republicans make a lot of “spread the wealth around”. What they like is to concentrate the wealth in the hands of 1/2 of 1%.
That has worked real swell for us hasn’t it?
Littlejon,
Exactly. I went back to read what she said and it had nothing to do with the fact that Palin has been more accessable to the media than either Biden or Obama have been.
For the last 3 weeks we have heard nothing but how little Palin is giving interviews, that she is being hid from the press.
Now we have proof that she is and has been more accessable and the only response we get is that what she said was not that great.
Typical liberals.
I’m missing Randy Schoelfield big time.
That’s the trouble with Wichita.
The smart ones . . . leave.
I think it is very good that she has answered some questions, as that is part of the process when one is asking voters to hire them.
The other part is the answers. I read the few questions and answers from the post. littlejohn summed up her answers with, “…just pointed out the ineptness and lack of substance to Palins answers. Something I actually agree with.”
Heckler posted October 21, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Cosmos
All that trouble to deflect from the true problem. Obama accidently said what he was really thinking.
Spread the wealth around.
So sad.
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Accidently? Did you watch the whole video?
‘Obama Explains His Tax Cut Plans To Plumbing Business Owner’[sic]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9jv9jfoA
Obama said that he personally was willing to pay more taxes, to lower taxes for hard-working people (the waitress, bus-driver, etc) who don’t earn very much.
Note his point that small businesses can’t survive without customers who have money to spend.
And Obama ended with the point that his tax plan might help ‘Joe’s’ (imaginary) business pay LESS in taxes, depending on specifics, like capital gains.
CapnAmerica,
So what does that say about all your liberal pals here? Are they dumb?
Ben, Linda, Chas, you?
Of course we’ve all had many opportunities to hear each of the other candidates answer questions, be interviewed, give speeches — for a long period of time, so I am not in the least concerned if they didn’t get coverage for what they were saying during the period quoted in one column. Usually I like to ready several “takes” of every given subject before beginning to draw any conclusions.
But, Nathaniel, if you have your heart set on the words of that one article, it isn’t for me to deter you! I’m just not as interested in that one article as you seem to be.
Non-responsive as usual Linda.
Nathaniel posted October 21, 2008 at 12:29 pm
For the last 3 weeks we have heard nothing but how little Palin is giving interviews, that she is being hid from the press.
Now we have proof that she is and has been more accessable and the only response we get is that what she said was not that great.
Typical liberals.
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Nathaniel,
So you believe that her rambling, almost incoherent, talking-point based comments are “great”? Then you have very low expectations for your potential president.
Cosmos,
When you ask and answer your own questions what is the point?
You might as well go argue with yourself.
Reposting the words of that socialist Ronald Reagan:
“Our plan will also mean an historic correction of a problem we’ve let go on too long — the increasing tax burden on low- and fixed-income Americans that’s been knocking the bottom rungs off the ladder of opportunity. A compassionate, profamily opportunity society should give a break as well to those Americans struggling to get by and move up. And that’s exactly what we intend to do.
By hiking the earned income tax credit, indexing it for inflation, and practically doubling the personal exemption, we can make sure that the working families do not suffer under the burden of Federal taxation. Giving a leg up to those struggling to move up is what America is all about. And that’s a top priority of our tax proposal”
Full story here:
http://tinyurl.com/6qjjno
When Palin, and Bush to certain extent, speak , I find it very confusing. Their lips move , out comes sounds a lot like English, but no matter how I resemble their words, do I understand what was said. Is there such a thing as ” verbal dyslexia”?
I think Bush is confused, and Palin speaks fluff.
Does their method of speaking reflect their thought processes?
Nathaniel posted,
“and the only response we get is that what she said was not that great.”
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Nathaniel,
Are Sarah Palin’s comments “great”?
And you never responded to my earlier posts.
cosmos_originally posted October 15, 2008 at 2:49 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1015/#comment-447877
Nathaniel posted October 15, 2008 at 2:19 pm
“The simple truth is that I never said that the difference between the electoral college and polular vote is a semantic nor was that ever what I meant to say either.”
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Okay, then tell us exactly what you “meant to say” when you used “semantic”.
Otherwise, my “assumption” seems to be accurate.
Let’s see — “Spread the wealth around…”
MCCAIN says he wants to TAX your employer provided health insurance…. WOW… And then he says he wants to give FAMILIES $5000 in tax credits(Repubs say tax credits are tax cuts) —
Now FAMILY health insurance runs around $12,000 per year… so that would be TAXED… And if you take OFF $5000 for McCain’s tax credit for health insurance… that leaves you being TAXED for $7000 of employer provided health insurance….
BUT, McCain says you can take that $5000 tax credit, and go buy your OWN health insurance…. which would raise the employer’s taxable base because he gets a deduction for insurance provided…. SO, McCain would tax YOU for your employer provided insurance, give you $5000 to buy your own insurance, and raise the Taxes on your employer by loss of deductions…
WOW, now that plan REALLY spreads the wealth around… and around…. and around…. and ends up with IRS!!! LOL
Cosmos,
The lack of a response on my part, logcially, doesn’t prove anything about the validity of your assumption.
Are you now admitting it was nothing more than an assumption on your part?
Palin is a nut job, it scares me that she could actually be President in the near future.
Seriously Republicans, is she the person you are proud to tell the rest of the world is the person you want to lead the United States of America?
It is great to toe the party line but on election day, I hope you consciences step in and make you think which choice would be worse voting Democrat or creating a real and distinct likelihood that Palin will be President.
Economic prisoners, Nathan.
Brian,
Why do you think Palin is a nut job?
I think she is a rather remarkable woman. She is birght, intelligent, and funny.
I have nothing to be ashamed of in supporting her.
Nathan,
From what I can tell of you from your posts, Palin must represent your views on most issues quite well.
‘nuf said.
Biran,
So what is it that makes you think she is a nut job?
What scares you?
It seems like I am regularly mocked by posters like MonkeyHawk for being scared of Obama when I have said no such thing.
Meanwhile, you actually admit you are scared.
Why?
Nathaniel,
Because she puts her own views, religion, and emotional reactions to issues above the will of the majority of people.
(and no, the majority of the people do not hold her views on abortion, gay marriage, or drilling in ANWR) (and no, her being elected as part of a McCain/Palin ticket would not mean the people want her to change current policies to match her views on those issues)
Sigh. . .the disingenuous talking points are becoming tiresome.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&nolr=1&q=Biden+interview&btnG=Search
A similar search for “press conference” finds multiple occurrences of the talking-point-of-the-month, usually in the ‘comments’ section:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&nolr=1&q=Biden+%22press+conference%22+&btnG=Search
The fact is that Biden has been in the US Senate for 35 years and ran for president twice. He’s probably been before the press more than McCain has, even in the past two months.
“Nathaniel
Posted October 21, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink
Biran,
So what is it that makes you think she is a nut job?
What scares you?
It seems like I am regularly mocked by posters like MonkeyHawk for being scared of Obama when I have said no such thing.
Meanwhile, you actually admit you are scared.
Why?”
I don’t know anything about your being mocked for being scared of Obama, that seems silly and petty.
I have no problem, however, admitting that the idea of Palin as President scares me
(nothing to do with her gender – she is the female equivalent of Huckabee and the idea of him as Pres. scares me equally)
above the will of the majority of people
Sounds like the congress and senate with the bailout.
Brian,
Why?
Nathaniel posted October 21, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Cosmos,
The lack of a response on my part, logcially, doesn’t prove anything about the validity of your assumption.
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It proves that Nathaniel cannot defend what he posted.
Brian,
Oh, missed your first post.
Cosmos,
The only thing it proves is that I don’t bother engaging you in a discussion where you purposefully distort what I say. There is not much point.
I point out your distortions and you refuse to respond.
There is no point moving forward when you continue to put forth a lie.
Nathan: “What’s frightening about Palin?”
Read what Colin Powell thinks:
“I was also concerned at the selection of Governor Palin. She’s a very distinguished woman, and she’s to be admired, but at the same time, now that we have had a chance to watch her for some seven weeks, I don’t believe she’s ready to be president of the United States, which is the job of the vice president. And so that raised some question in my mind as to the judgment that Senator McCain made.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/20/AR2008102002393.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Having another president who is not adequately prepared to be there is hardly a good thing for our country.
Plese refrain from the very worn out Repuke refrain that Palin his more prepared Obama. Anyone with a working neuron, would know that such an assertion is false on its face.
I pushed submit before I could complete my thoughts in the first one :)
Brian,
Do you have any examples of this?
While she was governor she enjoyed an extremely high approval rating.
Steven,
I have heard what Powell said. Problem is he doesn’t explain why either.
I am not a lemming. Simply because Powell had an opinion on it doesn’t mean I will follow it blindly.
There are many people who don’t think Obama is ready to be President either.
Now Brian, we know that Palin has the personal qualities and intelligence to be president. She was inexperienced, but is a quick learner and is picking things up very fast. (So was Obama but he has been running for president his whole short career and can fake it well.)
If elected, by January Palin would know what she needs to know to be an effective back up.
And your characterization of Palin as female Huckabee is actually quite a compliment to her. Huckabee is an extremely sharp guy.
Huckabee is an extremely sharp guy.
Huckabee is smart. Palin is politically talented, but in other areas is about as shallow as a kiddie pool.
Steven,
So, in your own opinion, WHY do you think Palin is not ready to be President? ( or as you say “adequately prepared”)
“Nathaniel
Posted October 21, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink
Brian,
Do you have any examples of this?
While she was governor she enjoyed an extremely high approval rating.”
http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_Palin.htm
Her approval rating as Alaska’s governor does not refute what I posted… btw – http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/01/mcclatchy-palins-approval_n_130841.html
Barney Frank – lib dem says there’s plenty of people to tax.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k
Brian,
You make simplistic arguments. I respons with being simple.
Her approval rating is still at 68%.
Your argument was based on her policies not being supported by a simple majority of people scaring you.
Seems that she still enjoys a quite high approval rating in Alaska regardless of her policies.
Is it your argument that anything a simply majority supports a candidate should support as well?
“outlander
Posted October 21, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink
And your characterization of Palin as female Huckabee is actually quite a compliment to her. Huckabee is an extremely sharp guy.”
Lots of people are sharp – that is not a qualification to be President.
My comparison was based on similar social policies between Palin and Huckabee, in my viewpoint not a compliment, but maybe it is a good thing if you are Evangelical or something like that.
“Nathaniel
Posted October 21, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink
Brian,
You make simplistic arguments. I respons with being simple.
Her approval rating is still at 68%.
Your argument was based on her policies not being supported by a simple majority of people scaring you.
Seems that she still enjoys a quite high approval rating in Alaska regardless of her policies.
Is it your argument that anything a simply majority supports a candidate should support as well?”
My arguement is that
1. I do not think a majority of Americans share her views on many social issues and
2. I think that as VP (or Pres.) she would push her views on those social issues onto the Nation regardless of what most American think about them.
Nathaniel posted October 21, 2008 at 1:04 pm
I think she is a rather remarkable woman. She is birght, intelligent, and funny.
I have nothing to be ashamed of in supporting her.
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Is Nathaniel proud that:
* Palin insisted that her being Gov of Alaska enhanced her foreign policy credentials, because Russia is a neighbor?
* Palin lied about an earmark that was killed 13 months BEFORE she took office?
* Palin allowed rape victims to be charged for forensic exams?
* Palin lies about drilling in the Arctic Refuge?
“Nathaniel
Posted October 21, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink
Brian,
Her approval rating is still at 68%.
…Seems that she still enjoys a quite high approval rating in Alaska regardless of her policies.”
Nathaniel,
Is your response that most people do share her views on social issues because her approval rating is >50%?
“It is great to toe the party line but on election day, I hope you consciences step in and make you think”
As if…
Brian,
Nope. Just that most people support her in general in Alaska.
KFG, how’s your feathered peckers’?
Nathaniel,
Can you explain what you meant by “semantic” in your response to avtolle?
avtolle posted October 15, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I understand that, Nathaniel; but your post stated “Cosmos,
And most Americans disagreed with you liberals twice when we voted for Bush as well.” Most implies that more voted for Pres. Bush than his opponent; which, in popular vote terms, in 2000, was not correct.
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Nathaniel posted October 15, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Avtolle,
Seriously, what is the point in trying to argue such a semantic in what I said?
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Or are you only able to post stupid, high-school debate escapes?
Nathaniel posted October 21, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Nope. Just that most people support her in general in Alaska.
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Of course they support her — she gave them $1200 checks to help pay for high gasoline prices.
Cosmos,
The point of my post was not the technicallity of how Bush was elected, but that he was elected twice.
The semantic was arguing over technicalities on how rather than on my point.
Cosmos,
So is that why so many people continue to support the democrats? Because they continue to get handouts and money from the federal government?
13,788 reasons an Alaskan might like Palin:
http://www.nemw.org/fundsrank.htm
For every dollar an Alaskan pays in Federal Taxes we give them $1.84
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html
In 2004 “Bush won most of the states than benefit from federal spending, while Gore won most states that bankroll the federal government.”
http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/hweisberg/conference/lacy-osuconf.pdf
make that 2000 …
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1020-2/#comment-452003
GREAT catch Monkey…. But will the wingnuts go off on a tangent about how St. Ronald is a Socialist??? Hmmmm I doubt it!!
Alaska 1st, Ariz. last in pork spending
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-03-22-earmarks_N.htm
Great article on McCain.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
I challenge even McCain supporters to read it, despite the periodical.
Just got this in email — Some will find it ineresting… others not so much >>>>
The Institute for Creation Research Makes it Clear that People Have to Choose:
A recent article (September, 2008) http://www.icr.org/article/4092/ — published by the Institute for Creation Research makes it clear that our work is far from over.
The article is entitled “Capitulating on Creation: Changing the truth of God into a lie” and criticizes “Christian leaders who allow science to govern their interpretation of Scripture, touting ‘new discoveries’ that ‘prove’ evolutionary claims, and treating the Genesis account as a mere framework for expressing the fact that God created, rather than as a narrative relating the actual details of God’s work during the creation week.” Just in case you’re wondering, the “Christian leaders” referenced are those of you who have signed our Christian Clergy Letter.
Indeed, the article ends, after quoting The Christian Clergy Letter in full, with the following: “Many of these same 12,000 ministers devote one weekend every February to exalt the person and work of Charles Darwin, whose birthday falls on February 12. The next ‘Evolution Weekend’ will be held February 13-15, 2009. You can be sure that this, the celebration of Darwin’s 200th birthday, will be the grandest evolution party ever.”
“Perhaps it’s time to find out whether the book stocked in your church’s pews is The Origin of Species or the Holy Bible.”
In fact, as you all well know, the purpose of Evolution Weekend isn’t to “exalt the person and work of Charles Darwin.” Rather, it is to demonstrate that thoughtful religious people can celebrate their religion and live their faith even as they appreciate the findings of modern science. It is to demonstrate that thoughtful people can value and understand both the Holy Bible and The Origin of Species.
With your help, we will continue to get the word out about our real goals and we will not permit those with one particular religious perspective either to compromise science teaching in the name of their religion or to successfully give the impression that their religious beliefs are the norm. Together we are making a difference.
Thanks so very much for your continued support.
Michael
Visit The Clergy Letter Project on the web at:
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org
Ben posted >>>>
For every dollar an Alaskan pays in Federal Taxes we give them $1.84
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html
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WOW…. Talking about spreading the wealth!!
I guess somebody should tell Palin to change her talking points on that item, eh??
Nathaniel,
Congratulations on AGAIN trying to weasel out.
Your earlier post was:
“Cosmos,
And most Americans disagreed with you liberals twice when we voted for Bush as well.”
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And now Nathaniel stupidly claims:
“The point of my post was not the technicallity of how Bush was elected, but that he was elected twice.
The semantic was arguing over technicalities on how rather than on my point.”
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The point of your earlier post was “most Americans disagreed with you liberals…”.
The “American” popular vote is NOT the electoral college.
“We” are NOT the electoral college.
Many more “Americans” voted for Gore than Bush.
Cosmos,
Yes. And as I was in a discussion with Ben in that very same thread, I clarified my statement and said that I was wrong.
What I never did was say that the Electoral college vs popular vote was a semantic as you tried to say I did.
One of the first things President Obama should do is sell Alaska on ebay to pay off the national debt.
You betcha!
And now (today) Nathaniel stupidly claims:
“The point of my post was not the technicallity of how Bush was elected, but that he was elected twice.”
Uh oh, now Iran and Venezuela matter in oil pricing…they are “tightening the squeeze”.
I thought that Chavez was a no-matter chump?
Pfeefer, not to mention a report I read that Cuba has now determined it has 20 Billion bbls of oil reserves; wonder how that will affect the situation in the future. (Think I saw it on the Guardian web site, BTW.)
Cosmos there were .51% more votes cast for Gore than Bush.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/18/cuban-oil
link to article on Cuban oil.
thanks avt
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/a_video_that_could_change_the_election/
okobserver posted October 21, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Cosmos there were .51% more votes cast for Gore than Bush.
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That was about 500,000 Americans.
okobserver, does about 500,000 fewer Americans voting for Bush make Nathaniel’s claim accurate?
NATHANIEL: “And most Americans disagreed with you liberals twice when we voted for Bush as well.”
Spread the wealth around – as in shifting tax burdens, not that the wingnuts care what it means…
For eight years huge tax burdens were sifted away from the high-rollers, because it would ’stimulate the economy.’ Look how stimulated we all are now!
The working families drive this economy. Let those that have lost the most ground over the past 20 years or so begin to get a better grip on the American Dream.
Yes, Bush was elected twice – and ain’t we happy about it now!!!!
Which explains why we need a ‘transformational’ change of political leadership.
Saturday, Riverside Park East Side Gazebo on Murdock, 2:30 PM – A Democratic Rally to get out the early vote. Be there or be square.
U.S. STOCKS FINISH DEEP IN THE RED, PACED BY NASDAQ’S 4% SLIDE
McCain Concedes Colorado, Iowa, and New Mexico
CNN is reporting that McCain is making those tough decisions that politicians love to talk about. According to CNN, McCain is abandoning Colorado (9 EVs), Iowa (7 EVs) and New Mexico (5 Evs). If Obama wins these three he gets 21 EVs. Add these to the 252 EVs Kerry won and he has 273 and becomes President. McCain’s strategy at this point is to win Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Missouri, Nevada, and–get this–Pennsylvania. The first six are arguably swing states, but our three-poll average puts Obama 12 points ahead in Pennsylvania. McCain is effectively betting the farm on a state which looks like an Obama landslide. It is a strange choice. Colorado looks a lot easier than Pennsylvania. James Carville once famously said that Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama sandwiched in between. Maybe McCain is going to go all out to win the white working class men in the Alabama section of Pennsylvania. McCain can’t possibly do it on the economy. What’s left? Maybe run against the Wright/Ayers ticket? Any way you look at it, this has to be a desperation move.
Not much pride when you’re trapped inside a slowly sinking ship.
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 21, 2008 at 3:02 pm | Permalink
okobserver posted October 21, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Cosmos there were .51% more votes cast for Gore than Bush.
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That was about 500,000 Americans.
okobserver, does about 500,000 fewer Americans voting for Bush make Nathaniel’s claim accurate?
NATHANIEL: “And most Americans disagreed with you liberals twice when we voted for Bush as well.”
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The Goracle lost his home state of Tennessee.
End of story.
Bob Somerby says it perfectly. LOL!
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh102108.shtml
“Thirty-five years takes us back to 1973. That’s one year after the presidential campaign which (literally) involved criminal break-ins—and subsequent criminal cover-ups involving the CIA and the FBI. Noting that significant fact, we’ll semi-agree with what Josh says here.
We can’t think of a general election campaign in which the principals offered claims as baldly disingenuous as those of McCain and Palin. Good God! Obama “pals around with terrorists?” (Plural!) And how about this: “When convenient, he worked with terrorist Bill Ayers. When discovered, he lied.” Truly, those are astounding representations. It has been a long time since a campaign’s principal figures behaved this way, right out in the open.
(Now, of course, we’re on the claim in which a 33 percent tax rate is “Country first” — but 36 percent is “socialism.”)”
Regular
Posted October 21, 2008 at 7:11 am | Permalink
Being as the Earned Income Tax Credit was enacted in 1975 before Ronald Reagan became President, MonkeyHock must have found a way to warp time.
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Which puts it with another Socialist Republican president.
okobserver,
Does about 500,000 fewer Americans voting for Bush make Nathaniel’s claim accurate?
NATHANIEL: “And most Americans disagreed with you liberals twice when we voted for Bush as well.”
BlueJay – I’d love to see the Clintons join Obama in PA and OH. These are classic blue-collar states where the Clintons are popular.
BlueJay posted October 21, 2008 at 3:24 pm
McCain Concedes Colorado, Iowa, and New Mexico
Maybe McCain is going to go all out to win the white working class men in the Alabama section of Pennsylvania.
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And get the unions, who endorse and support Obama, to push for Obama in that section.
Then all McCain has is his VP, dressed in high heels and lots of lipstick.
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 21, 2008 at 3:40 pm | Permalink
BlueJay posted October 21, 2008 at 3:24 pm
McCain Concedes Colorado, Iowa, and New Mexico
Maybe McCain is going to go all out to win the white working class men in the Alabama section of Pennsylvania.
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And get the unions, who endorse and support Obama, to push for Obama in that section.
Then all McCain has is his VP, dressed in high heels and lots of lipstick.
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What a sexist remark!
cosmos is a sexual bigot.
that sexual spigot
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081021/wl_nm/us_iraq_usa_gates_1
While the economy has been the number one topic lately, there are U.S.-Iraqi negotiations on-going to arrive at a SOFA by Dec. 31. There are reports that there is Iraqi opposition to a draft agreed to in principle, at least, between the two sides centered around Iraqi jurisdiction over “crimes” committed by U.S. military members in the country. One suggestion that has been made by the Iraqis is that additional drafting be done; the above link suggests that the U.S. is almost ready to refuse to consider further changes.
Dec. 31 is the date that the current U.N. mandate expires, and the need for the SOFA is evident; otherwise, as Sec. Gates notes, without an agreement, the U.S. forces would be unable to do anything. I’m not quite sure what he means by this, but it is a problem which will need to be resolved, regardless of who wins the Presidency.
“Kansas values”(sic) Regular posted October 21, 2008 at 3:43 pm
What a sexist remark!
cosmos is a sexual bigot.
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Those are her own trademarks — lipstick, and high heels.
And thank you for helping to prove my point about how McCain could “win the white working class men…”.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122455027730552509.html
The title to the link is misleading; Chairman Bernanke didn’t endorse Sen. Obama. He did, it appears, signal a general endorsement of the fiscal stimulus package being promoted by the Democrats. This is highly unusual, taking what may be perceived as a political position. In Chairman Bernanke’s defense, no matter how tepid it is, he was quoted in a radio report this morning as indicating that to have any effect, a stimulus package should be in the nature of $300 Billion in size, which is the size proposed by the Democrats.
However, there is at least one thing posed by the writer with which I agree: the Fed Chairman should not be perceived as being political in decision making, regardless of his personal opinion.
VT – it seems to me that a stimulous package should be in the form of ‘public works’ rather than handouts or rebates. That would (a) employ people and (b) build something.
bth, from what little I know about the Democratic proposal, there is a public works component thereto, as well as extension of unemployment benefits, etc. This is apparently one of the “sticking points” with the President and the GOP. I guess we’ll all need to stay tuned on this one.
ksfarmgrrlicker
Posted October 21, 2008 at 1:46 pm | Permalink
“It is great to toe the party line but on election day, I hope you consciences step in and make you think”
As if…
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Is it OK if I tow the party line?
or tell me how I “toe” it.
“writer” eh?
public education?
you betchya!
heheheheheh
20 billion barrels of oil. Unfortunately it is off-shore and more than a mile deep. Gonna be ’spensive to get it out, and take a long time. But it is there, so you know every oil company in the world is going to go for it.
I’m guessing that if it is in fact true, all of a sudden we’re going to be a lot friendlier with Cuba and those aging, hard-nosed old anti-Castro types in southern Florida will be tossed under the bus.
Dennis
Yep, it does raise all kinds of issues there, doesn’t it. I think that once the world price of oil gets to where further exploration and development of the Cuban oil makes economic sense, it’s gonna be “what embargo?”.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/toe+the+line
Verb 1. toe the line – do what is expected
abide by, comply, follow – act in accordance with someone’s rules, commands, or wishes; “He complied with my instructions”; “You must comply or else!”; “Follow these simple rules”; “abide by the rules”
Palin as a reformer?
AP: Palin children traveled on state expenses
VP hopeful charged state for children’s travel, amended expense reports
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.
The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.
In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters’ 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27310999/
“biased1″ blithers –
“Is it OK if I tow the party line?
or tell me how I “toe” it.
“writer” eh?
public education?
you betchya!
heheheheheh”
You’re quite the fool, “biased one.”
From
http://grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.html
“…A lot of people who don’t know the origin of the phrase picture someone pulling a rope, cord, or some other “line”–”tow the line”–as a way of working for whomever the “line” belongs to. Thus, if the administration has a “line”–i.e., a “party line”–then those who side with the administration help to pull it (”tow” it) along.
Wrong.
The phrase “toe the line” is equivalent to “toe the mark,” both of which mean to conform to a rule or a standard. The Oxford Dictionary of Word Histories (Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2002; ed. by Glynnis Chantrell) says, “The idiom toe the line from an athletics analogy originated in the early 19th century” (514).
The specific sport referred to is foot-racing, where the competitors must keep their feet behind a “line” or on a “mark” at the start of the race–as in “On your mark, get set,
go!”
So one who “toes the line” is one who does not allow his foot to stray over the line. In other words, one who does not stray beyond a rigidly defined boundary.”
Your ignorance combines with arrogance. No wonder you’re a CON.
One thing that most people miss when they talk about opening up Alaska and our coastal areas to drilling is that the drilling will be opened to the free market.
That means that whoever ‘harvests’ the oil will then sell it to the highest bidder in the world market. That oil is not going to go to the US to keep our prices down, the oil producers are going to sell it on the open market.
The only way this additional production will keep US prices down is if total world demand is stagnant between now and the time any oil from additional production offshore or in Alaska hits the market. Then the total world supply will be higher with the same level of demand so the world prices will drop, thus the US prices will drop.
If you were not aware, most increased demand for oil is coming from outside the USA, so we really have not control over it and the demand by developing countries is expected to increase dramatically in the next 5-10 years.
The other way to keep prices low is to nationalize US oil production and create a government department of oil that will carefully approve/deny, moniter, track, and regulate all oil production, sales and importation to the US. This would have the effect of creating a US only market so supply could be adjusted to demand so as to maintain a constant price. Or free-market prices could be subsidized for US consumers. Neither of these options should seem appealing to anyone who likes capitalism, free trade, or votes for a ‘drill here drill now’ mantra.
“biased1″ apparently has run away.
Perhaps he got a wild hare up his ass.
Nathaniel posted October 21, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Brian,
Why do you think Palin is a nut job?
I think she is a rather remarkable woman. She is birght, intelligent, and funny.
I have nothing to be ashamed of in supporting her.
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Palin AGAIN falsely claims that the VP is “in charge of the U.S. Senate”.
‘Palin Claims The Vice President Is ‘In Charge Of The U.S. Senate’ ‘
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/21/palin-vp-senate/
Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”
PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
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Someone should introduce her to wikipedia, and Senators Reid and McConnell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Presiding_over_the_Senate
Thanks Cosmos and MH for sticking up for standards.
What’s really galling is that Biassed didn’t even bother to see how wrong he was before he spewed . . .
It’s like those idiots who are sure you made a mistake because you said “just between you and me” instead of “you and I.” The former is correct because “me” is the object of the the preposition “between” so it should use the object form.
Or who think you’re wrong when you say “bald-faced lie” when they think it should be “bold-faced.”
Either is correct.
Cosmos “As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber.[2]”
Sounds as if she is “in charge of the U.S. Senate”.
Unless you think the president isn’t in charge of the United States.
not in charge… has one occassional duty to vote – only to break a tie.
AP INVESTIGATION: Palin children traveled on state
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.
The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.
In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters’ 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel;_ylt=AveXJgkruWEuRD.ax_YoR3Cs0NUE
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1. No way Palin is fit to be VPOTUS
2. McCain has not only shot himself in the foot with Palin, his foot is missing completely.
What a sad ticket the GOP turned out this election.
I can see some newcomer like her coming in and trying to throwing her weight around and telling Roberts and his crowd what to do!!! WhAHAHAH!
“The Constitution assigns no executive powers to the vice president, in performing such duties he or she acts only as an agent of the president.”
okobserver, the President of the Senate is, by and large, a ceremonial position, primarily being the presiding officer of the Senate, a task that is filled quite often by any particular Senator in the chamber. I don’t know whether that is due to the evolution of the Senate, but it appears to me that the person “in charge of the U.S. Senate” is the Senate Majority Leader (to the extent any one person is in charge of the Senate).
The primary (and to me the only) power the Vice President has in the Senate is to break a tie vote.
“No executive powers”.. it would be a downgrade for Palin’s career. I will do what I can to prevent that.. ;-)
LOL, Bush has been in charge???
okobserver,
Try to read what Palin said, or watch the video at the link I gave.
PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
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Palin is describing the role of Sens Reid and McConnell, et al.
biased apparently not able to toe the line…
LOL! Are you telling me she didn’t even read the job description?
Intelligent, yes. Politcally saavy? Maybe? Uninformed and an intellectual lightweight? To be sure.
If the old man dies, she will be a puppet for the men who chose here to begin with.
“biased1
Posted October 21, 2008 at 4:24 pm ”
Hee hee heeeeee
Thanks guys for the defense. The funny part is that biASSED thinks I wrote it.
Uh, the quotation marks should give a clue that I was quoting the original author. Only the “as if” was mine.
nitwit
And yeah, ignorance and arrogance are a lethal combination. Just not lethal enough to make biASSED disappear from the blog.
It’s nice to know, though, that I get under her/his skin so much he/she is willing to make an ASS of him/herself in a feeble effort to somehow make fun of me.
joke’s on him/her. I’m thinkin’ a public education is better than NO education.
And yeah. We’re laughing AT not with.
nitwit
“The primary (and to me the only) power the Vice President has in the Senate is to break a tie vote.”
The real power for a democrat in the white house is first lady. That’s where the power base resides.
Under the liberal constitution, the First Lady is responsible to formulate Health Care Reform legislation for the nation and dodge bullets when visiting Bosnia.
That’s where Hillary got all her experience.
brian_nuevo posted October 21, 2008 at 4:42 pm
The only way this additional production will keep US prices down is if total world demand is stagnant between now and the time any oil from additional production offshore or in Alaska hits the market.
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Another problem — additional future domestic production may only help replace currently declining domestic production, like Prudhoe Bay. So we may only have status quo . . . or even lower total production.
Jesus WEPT! That whole ass showing by biassed is just too funny. I’m STILL laughing.
Brian, good luck buddy. I spent three days trying to convince the maroons that their supply side voodoo was just that.
Voodoo.
SOCIALIST voodoo at that!
To the tune of that old TV ad “Charley”
BlueJay sings…
Kinda dumb kinda loud biased
Drops his pants in a crowd, biased.
Maybe biased1 is trying get some Republicans to form a line while holding hands, to make a Republican tow line?
“After Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain chose Palin his running mate and reporters asked for the records, Palin ordered changes to previously filed expense reports for her daughters’ travel.
In the amended reports, Palin added phrases such as “First Family attending” and “First Family invited” to explain the girls’ attendance.
“The governor said, ‘I want the purpose and the reason for this travel to be clear,’” said Linda Perez, state director of administrative services.
When Palin released her family’s tax records as part of her vice presidential campaign, some tax experts questioned why she did not report the children’s state travel reimbursements as income.
The Palins released a review by a Washington attorney who said state law allows the children’s travel expenses to be reimbursed and not taxed when they conduct official state business.”
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LOL
oh yeah, Palin’s all about cleanin’ up DC.
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ANTI
Posted October 21, 2008 at 1:48 pm | Permalink
KFG, how’s your feathered peckers’?”
heheheh. HAHAHAHAHA good one!
They’re fine.
And yours?
So the Moose-Dresser’s excuse is that her children’s travel expenses are free non-taxable income “…when they conduct official state business.”
Thank goodness Piper was on the job!
Look at how long ago biased reached back for something to run with.
ALL that has been said in the three hours in between. ALL that biased might bring of his own to share (Yeah who am I kidding there?)
And ol’ biased picks up a ball from hours ago…
and runs it right into a brick wall.
Palin not qualified say 34% of Americans polled
David Brooks:
“Sarah Palin has many virtues,” Brooks wrote in a recent column. “If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she’d be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness.”
George Will:
John McCain’s opponent is by far the least experienced person to receive a presidential nomination in the 75 years since the federal government became a comprehensively intrusive regulatory state and modern weaponry annihilated the protection the nation derived from time and distance.
David Frum:
Ms. Palin’s experience in government makes Barack Obama look like George C. Marshall.
Kathleen Parker:
If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.
No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I’ve been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I’ve also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.
Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there’s not much content there.
If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.
Oh my…
Bill O’Reilly is NOT a happy camper.
Fellow con radio shill and occasional sit in for O’Reilly Mike Smerkonish? is voting for Obama!
“Famed conservative columnist George Will told a gathering of Senate aides on Monday that Gov. Sarah Palin is “obviously” not prepared to assume the presidency if necessary, two event attendees told the Huffington Post.”
George equates Palin with Obama!
Y’all have a good evening. I’m off to grab a bit of dinner and then to a Site Council meeting, assured that my presence here will not be required.
Watch her very chirpy response. . . preferably with an empty stomach.
‘Sarah Palin: VP Is ‘In Charge Of United States Senate’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA
VLMAP testing
Testing bullish
President Clinton had decades of experience working on health and children’s issues. The President asked Mrs. Clinton to lead that defeated effort.
How is your insurance company taking care of you?
I just had to pay $120 up front and got $40 back from Blue Cross Blue Shield.
We are a sicker nation than ANY other industrialized nation.
America is, by and large, an overworked, underpaid, underinsured, unhealthy nation.
U.S. Drops Charges Against 5 Detainees
The Pentagon official in charge of prosecutions at Guantanamo on Tuesday dismissed war-charges against five detainees, the latest setback to the government’s military commission system.
“the worst of the worst” Prez Bush told us….
“Rage”observes –
America is, by and large, an overworked, underpaid, underinsured, unhealthy nation.
Well put.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D93V1T7G0.htm
Study shows gap growing between rich and poor
By EMMA VANDORE and GREG KELLER
MORE FROM BUSINESSWEEK
PARIS
Economic inequality is growing in the world’s richest countries, particularly in the United States, jeopardizing the American Dream of social mobility just as the world tilts toward recession, a 30-nation report said Tuesday.
The gap between rich and poor has widened over the last 20 years in nearly all the countries studied, even as trade and technological advances have spurred rapid growth in their economies.
More at link.
Nathan likes to ask his little questions.. here is one for him:
Is Sarah Palin qualified to be YOUR Commander in Chief?
Check out this photo of the Governor of Alaska’s official limousine –
http://www.prankplace.com/antlers.htm?KBID=3845
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back again to bondage.”
Your education is lacking
The Egyptian Empire stretched from roughly 3150 BCE to 30 BCE, making it the longest lived at 3130 years.
The Mayan civilization is probably the longest lived without significant intermediate failures – their reign stretched from approximately 2000 BCE to 900 AD – a reign of 2900 years.
The Byzantines enjoyed a 1,000 year reign
The Chinese empire began at approximately 250 BCE and may still be with us
In New Jersey, the Cherry Hill Women’s Center abortion mill routinely shoves mothers contracting the killing of their late-term baby out the door after giving the infant a lethal digoxin injection, instructing them to get a motel room and come back the next day to deliver a dead baby. Often, the mothers are minors evading Pennsylvania’s parental consent law, alone, terrified, crying, and in extreme pain. The Clarion Hotel in Cherry Hill and the Quality Inn in Maple Shade offers the mothers discount rates with an abortion mill receipt. If digoxin is accidentally injected into the bloodstream of a woman or young girl, as it was recently in Tiller’s Wichita abortion mill, it can cause infection and death within hours.
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back again to bondage
So, in other words, you’re saying that those who are wallowing in abundance are embracing slavery? An interesting supposition, though I expect some of those who are comfortably affluent might object to that characterization.
We are in bondage to the oil producing countries….
Go alternative energy ASAP!
Egypt was NOT a democracy!
The Mayan Empire, the Byzantine Empire, AND the Chinese Empire were not DEMOCRACIES!
Get it?
oops! Well the democratic experiment is too new to draw any conclusions
Those are your words Rage. The quote never mentioned slavery.
So you would prefer to live in the Egyptian, the Mayan, the Byzantine Empire, or the Chinese Empire?
Those are your words Rage. The quote never mentioned slavery.
Oh, my bad. I didn’t realize you were into B&D, you naughty thing, you! :)
“From dependence back again to bondage.”
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An “American” Head
Rome – a democracy (of the elites)
The Athenians
All slave-based of course…
Nice poetry for someone expecting America to fail.
Liberals have a brighter vision for our democracy….
LOL, no time-travel for me to any time before antibiotics!
Palin = Nero? Caligula?
I have never heard she can play a fiddle.
Hey, c’mon, David, be fair about this. Our slaves are paid!
I have never heard she can play a fiddle.
Caligula, then? Five kids. . hmmm . .
Both Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, hosted a gathering at their home in 1995,[2] where Alice Palmer introduced Obama as her chosen successor in the Illinois State Senate.[3][4] Investigations by the New York Times, CNN, and other news organizations concluded that Obama does not have a close relationship with Ayers.[5][3]
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I clearly remember hearing Obama saying he did not launch his state senate campaign in Bill Ayers living. WIKI seems to think he did and gives the details now. Tell me Obama didn’t just lie to America is the last debate. Just what we need a pathological liar that can look you right in the face and lie.
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Rage
Posted October 21, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink
America is, by and large, an overworked, underpaid, underinsured, unhealthy nation.
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Don’t forget “whining” and “ungrateful”.
It was later in 1995 that Mr. Ayers hosted the gathering, in a townhouse three blocks from Mr. Obama’s home, at which state Sen. Alice J. Palmer, who planned to run for Congress, introduced Mr. Obama to a few Democratic friends as her chosen successor. That was one of several such neighborhood events as Mr. Obama prepared to run, said A.J. Wolf, the 84-year-old emeritus rabbi of KAM Isaiah Israel Synagogue, across the street from Mr. Obama’s current house.
“I saw no evidence of a radical streak, either overt or covert, when we were together at Harvard Law School,” said Bradford A. Berenson, who worked on the Harvard Law Review with Mr. Obama and served as associate White House counsel under President Bush. Mr. Berenson, who backs Sen. John McCain, called his schoolmate “a pragmatic liberal” whose moderation frustrated others at the law review whose views were much further to the left.”
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-ayers_05pol.ART.State.Edition1.2698a11.html
Obama was introduced to some friends by an Illinois lawmaker…
Yesterday the Los Angeles Times reported on the Republican voter registration outfit who had allegedly been illegally changing thousands of registrations from Democratic to Republican.
Last night the head of that GOP backed group, Mark Anthony Jacoby of Young Political Majors (YPM), was arrested by the California State Election Fraud Taskforce and Oxnard, CA Police.
According to CA SoS Debra Bowen’s press release, Jacoby himself had committed voter registration fraud and perjury by lying on his own voter registration form.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6534
DavidB a good try to change the subject. WIKI clearly said the party was for the purpose of introducing Obama as her successor by the current senator. It also said it was held in the Ayers living room.
Does anyone remember the question McCain asked Obama. He said ‘you launched your political career in the living room of this ‘washed up terrorist’, isn’t this correct and Obama said clearly that didn’t happen.
Liar.
Just saw a video of Michael Moore and was amazed at his resemblance to Mr. Potato Head. Does anyone else see this.
DavidB
Posted October 21, 2008 at 7:39 pm | Permalink
Obama was introduced to some friends by an Illinois lawmaker
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Are you trying to say the Ayers didn’t know the Obamas before this meeting in 1995?
Don’t forget “whining” and “ungrateful”.
Ungrateful to whom?
clearly remember hearing Obama saying he did not launch his state senate campaign in Bill Ayers living.
He didn’t. He met Bill Ayers at an Alice Palmer fundraiser.
Geez, what the hell is wrong with you?
Are you trying to say the Ayers didn’t know the Obamas before this meeting in 1995?
Duh. This has been common knowledge to those of us who followed the Dem primary for some time now.
Warren County, Ohio
ACORN
http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/acorn.pdf
But remember.
John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) is not George WMD Bush.
He just talks like him
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
New Cases Of Alleged Voter Fraud Presented to Board Of Elections
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
Updated: Oct 21, 2008 12:59 PM EDT
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ONLY ON 19 ACTION NEWS: Grand Jury To Review Potential Voter Fraud Charges
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Possible Voter Fraud Top Topic At BOE Meeting As More Irregularities Come to Light
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ACORN Voter Registration Mess Driving BOE Nuts
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Cleveland, OH – ACORN and allegations of voter fraud top of mind during a Tuesday Board of Elections meeting.
19 Action News has learned that 14 new cases – for a total of 18 – presented to the BOE showed irregularities in voter registration linked to ACORN.
The advocacy group caught the attention of the FBI after a series of local inquiries turned up irregularities in its collection of voter registration forms.
Up until this point, ACORN has steadfastly denied any intent of fraud. Cleveland sources report they hope to make arrests in over a dozen cases within a wekk.
19 Action News Reporter Paul Orlousky tracking the day’s developments and will have the very latest starting First at Four.
Grand Jury to Review Voter Fraud Cases:
http://www.woio.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=3050273&h1=ONLY%20ON%2019%20ACTION%20NEWS%3A%20Grand%20Jury%20To%20Review%20Potential%20Voter%20Fraud%20Charges&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=93400&LaunchPageAdTag=Search%20Results&activePane=info&rnd=74916386
“Geez, what the hell is wrong with you?”
Rising panic, Rage.
RI SING panic.
IN BALANCE
Ontario police arrest man in voter fraud case – Los Angeles TimesOct 20, 2008 … Ontario police arrest man in voter fraud case. Mark Jacoby, who owns a firm hired by the California Republican Party, violated state laws …
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud20-2008oct20,0,3842357.story – 58k -
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Rage
Posted October 21, 2008 at 8:05 pm | Permalink
Don’t forget “whining” and “ungrateful”.
Ungrateful to whom?
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Ok Rage, you asked. Well, for one, the God, the Jehovah Gyra that over 70% of the country professes to believe in. We are generally so well off in this country. Poverty here isn’t really poverty. It’s affluence in a lot of places around the world.
I was taught that no matter your circumstance, you should be grateful for what you do have. That there are always going to be those who’s circumstances would make yours look pretty darn good.
Not that you necessarily be totally satisfied and shouldn’t try to better yourself and/or help and serve others. But don’t be ungrateful for the blessings in your life and the opportunities before you.
Brad Friedman: Republican voter ID laws disenfranchise Americans …Aug 20, 2008 …
The Republican war on democracy. By pushing photo ID laws, Republicans aren’t curbing voter fraud. They’re denying Americans their legal …
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/20/uselections2008.civilliberties
Calitics::
Republican Voter Registration Fraud in San Bernardino …Sep 17, 2008 …
Certainly the track record of YPM, the Republican firm at the center of the scandal and with many years of voter registration fraud dating …
calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6962
Voter Registration Fraud Clearinghouse –
Republican Group Accused of Voter Fraud – Minnesota Fraud article. “They said if you bring back a bunch of Democratic cards, you’ll be fired,”. …
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Voter_Registration_Fraud_Clearinghouse
Las Vegas Now | Investigation into Trashed Voter Registrations
The Republican National Committee acknowledges that it hired Voters Outreach … Voter Fraud Follow Some Nevadans, who thought they had registered to vote, …
http://www.klas-tv.com/global/story.asp?s=2421595
Take five minutes and find out which presidential candidate really supports your personal views.
Take the quiz:
http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/senate2006.asp?quiz=2008
“The Republican National Committee acknowledges that it hired…”
Well that should be your clue on the party to support. They were honest.
Unlike the democrats and Obama who continue to DENY ANY CONNECTION TO ACORN, despite Obama’s history of employment, and rights advocate in Chicago, and oh yeah, despite the check Obama sent them for $700,000.00 dollars.
Obama is a liar.
“The Republican National Committee acknowledges that it hired…”
Well that should be your clue on the party to support. They were honest.
Unlike the democrats and Obama who continue to DENY ANY CONNECTION TO ACORN, despite Obama’s history of employment, and rights advocate in Chicago, and oh yeah, despite the check Obama sent them for $700,000.00 dollars.
Obama is a liar.
Well that should be your clue on the party to support. They were honest.
Unlike the democrats and Obama who continue to DENY ANY CONNECTION TO ACORN, despite Obama’s history of employment, and rights advocate in Chicago, and oh yeah, despite the check Obama sent them for $700,000.00 dollars.
Obama is a liar.
Did I say?
Obama is a liar.
Had a little to drink tonight, AM? :)
‘Analyst: Obama plan isn’t “socialism,” it’s traditional progressive taxation‘
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008294130_webcampsocialism21.html
“Critics point to Obama’s plan to raise the top two tax rates on the wealthy as clear evidence of his socialist bent. However, Len Burman, the director of the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, said that while Obama “would make the tax system more progressive overall, it would not be a radical shift.”
It wouldn’t qualify as socialism.
“The answer is clearly no, Senator Obama is not a socialist,” said Paul Beck, a professor of political science at Ohio State University. “We’ve had a progressive tax system for some time, and both Republicans and Democrats have bought into it.” ”
More at link.
Personal Matching Score: 69%
Barack Obama matches your views on personal issues well.
Economic Matching Score: 50%
Barack Obama matches your views on economic issues acceptably.
Hillary and I agreed with a much higher percentage!
The Hate Talk Express hits again!!
(CNN) — A North Carolina congressman locked in a tight re-election race admitted Tuesday to recently telling a crowd of John McCain supporters that “liberals hate real Americans,” the latest in a string of comments from Republicans that appear to question Democrats’ patriotism.
The comments came at a McCain rally in Concord, North Carolina Saturday before the Arizona senator or members of his staff had arrived at the event. As first reported by the New York Observer, Hayes said, “Liberals hate real Americans that work and achieve and believe in God.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
If Republicans want to run their campaign like this, I suggest they call themselves the NAZI Party because more and more that’s who they sound like.
Not that you necessarily be totally satisfied and shouldn’t try to better yourself and/or help and serve others. But don’t be ungrateful for the blessings in your life and the opportunities before you.
So you set up your own straw-man, and knocked it down. That’s nice.
Or are you suggesting that you have to believe in supernatural beings to be happy that you don’t live in, say, Eritrea? Whatever.
The fact remains some of us would like to stop America from turning into a third-world country, as the current government and corporate policies actively and knowingly encourage.
How to avoid hiring qualified people in America:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/management/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199905192
The one candidate whose popularity has fallen is Gov. Palin: 38% see her positively, down from 44% two weeks ago; 47% see her negatively, up 10 points from the last poll. That’s the highest negative rating of the four candidates. Fifty-five percent of voters say Gov. Palin is not qualified to be president if the need arises, up from 50% two weeks ago.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122462257051655701.html
I can’t believe that 45% of Americans actaually think she’s qualified to be president! How stupid can people be?
Says a bunch about their level of intelligence, doesn’t it?
Hmm I took the little survey.
Obama came in sixth for me. Among those who agreed more with me were Senator Hillary Clinto, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader.
I think McCain was like 9th.
Actually, since half the population is below average we should be encouraged that even five percent of the below average realize she isn’t qualified!
lindainks55
Posted October 21, 2008 at 9:16 pm | Permalink
Actually, since half the population is below average we should be encouraged that even five percent of the below average realize she isn’t qualified!
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The sad thing Linda is that you think you are aok in your condesending attitudes. Long live ignorance. As farmie is so fond of saying ‘you can’t fix stupid and I would add also people who are puffed up with their own superiority’.
Greta just said that 30,000 registered felons are registered to vote in Florida. Since we know that the largest percentage of felons are democrats then is must be voter fraud.
Oh did I just say that. It was almost as stupid as saying that only stupid people would think that Sarah Palin isn’t qualified to be VP when the demo prez candidate isn’t as qualified as she is.
“Actually, since half the population is below average…”
I wonder how that relates to the 40% of Americans who are paying zero federal income taxes? The ones the One wants to give another 1,000 of national debt increasing refund?
“Had a little to drink tonight, AM?”
One of those long work days. Not a drop. Heck, that’s probably whats wrong!
“that only stupid people would think that Sarah Palin isn’t qualified”
By definition Okobserver, I think that would include only democrats.
The RNC “appears to have spent more than $150,000 to clothe and accessorize vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and her family since her surprise pick by John McCain in late August,” reports Politico.
The McCain campaign “declined to answer specific questions about the expenditures, including whether it was necessary to spend that much and whether it amounted to one early investment in Palin or if shopping for the vice presidential nominee was ongoing.”
Said a spokeswoman: “The campaign does not comment on strategic decisions regarding how financial resources available to the campaign are spent.”
WOW!
That’s 150 K that could have been used in down ballot races instead of putting lipstick on the pig.
okobserver, American_Way, or anyone,
Explain how the VP, or the President pro tempore, or a freshman Senator is “in charge” of the Senate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Presiding_over_the_Senate
“Like the Vice President, the President pro tempore does not normally preside over the Senate, but typically delegates the responsibility of presiding to junior senators of the majority party. Frequently, freshmen senators (newly elected members) are allowed to preside so that they may become accustomed to the rules and procedures of the body.”
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How do they force “good policy changes”, as Sarah Palin claimed?
‘Sarah Palin: VP Is ‘In Charge Of United States Senate’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA
Very good ed on independent minded voters:
“Independent voters, once a political afterthought, are now the largest and fastest-growing segment of the American electorate.
Forty-three percent of undecided swing voters are independents and 47% are centrists, according to a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC poll. Independent voters have been on the rise while the parties have been playing to a shrinking base. This is a generational change. There are now six states where independents outnumber both Republicans and Democrats — the swing states of Colorado, Iowa and New Hampshire as well as New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts.
Key battleground states this year such as Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia and North Carolina each have more than one million independent voters. In California, Florida and Nevada, the number of independent voters has increased more than 300% in the past 20 years, while Democratic and Republican registration has flatlined.
This is the new mainstream in American politics, and it’s growing among younger voters. More than 40% of college undergraduates identify themselves as independents, according to a summer 2008 survey by Harvard University’s Institute of Politics (IOP). “Half of young Americans do not identify with traditional party or ideological labels — they are the new center in American politics,” says John Della Volpe of IOP.
This trend extends to 30- to 45-year-old Generation X voters as well, says the author of “X Saves the World,” Jeff Gordinier: “Gen Xers tend to be pretty post-ideological and pragmatic, there is less allegiance to any one party or any one way of thinking.”
For Americans who’ve grown accustomed to hundreds of cable channels and unlimited choices on the Internet, politics is the last place people are expected to be satisfied with a choice between Brand A and Brand B.
Professional partisans in Washington try to ignore this shift, perpetuating the myth that the independent movement is a chaotic grab bag. In fact, the movement has a coherent set of underlying beliefs: Independents tend to be fiscally conservative, socially progressive and strong on national security. They believe in putting patriotism over partisanship and the national interest over special interests.
The top targets of independents’ anger are illustrative — hypocritical politicians, pork-barrel projects and a lack of bipartisan solutions in Washington, according to a 2008 national survey of independents by TargetPoint Consulting. Then there’s the Bush administration. Independents believe the current president is the worst in recent history, but there is one area of policy overlap: 66% of independent voters believe that the U.S. has an obligation to establish security in Iraq before withdrawing.
Barack Obama’s appeal to independents is rooted in his promise to transcend the left/right, black/white debates. He beat Hillary Clinton 2-1 among independents.
The next president will inherit the oval office at a time of economic turmoil, with a combustible combination of high expectations and an angry electorate. But the next president can unite the country even in difficult times if he understands this truth:
Americans are not deeply divided — our political parties are — and the explosive growth of independent voters is a direct reaction to this disconnect.”
wsjonline
I’d like to think while we are busy fighting, the ending of the editorial is right.
If you took the quiz above, you might see some of yourselves in this article. I did.
lipstick on the pig.
Your candidate doesn’t need lipstick.
Cindy McCain’s outfit for the second night of the Republican Convention (actually the first night since the first night was ’suspended’) cost $300,000. I’m sure McCain thought he got a bargain in outfitting Palin!
And Okobserver:
Is this as it is?
only stupid people would think that Sarah Palin isn’t qualified to be VP
means?
only stupid people would think that Sarah Palin IS NOT qualified to be VP…
It is. As it is.
The RNC should pay someone a small amount to splice video snips of the boring, mundane work done by the “president” of the Senate, say during one week.
Perhaps if Sarah watched that, she’d FINALLY understand it is NOT a powerful position?
Wow! You folks are reduced to tearing apart the candidates clothes and the wifes too? Lipstick and pigs?
What does this say about what you have to talk about?
Well I guess this is payback for the sperm stain on Monica’s dress, cheating Edwards haircut, or wetting Obama’s lips and sticking him to a tree.
Did you see The Daily Show last night? They interviewed the current mayor of Wasilla, showing details of how Sarah Palin began her long extensive executive experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXwQKrL92c4
They’re going to put me in the White House,
Make a big star out of me,
Going to make a show about
a pit bull that’s bitter and zany,
and all I gotta do is
Act Naturally!
Well I’m going to be a big star,
that’s plain to see,
If it doesn’t work out with Mccain
There’s always Fox
on tv!
It is all petty, isn’t it!?
When most Americans lost the last 10 years of deferments, and we have no idea how much deeper the losses will go, we have stupidity being spoken of most.
Yes, it is petty.
And we’re all complicit!
* lost the last ten years of income deferments, plus the company’s match, plus perceived earnings…
And you’re in your early 60s and you wonder if there is time to see the comeback. You worked hard, you prepared, dreamed…
Notice how many of the cons have gone quiet?
Oh there’s the occasional weigh in from some of them. And some of the more fringe ARE still posting steady.
They may be likened to the Titanic’s ships band.
I think they are a little past “Orpheus” but not quite to “Neared my God to Thee”.
If Clinton had cost me as much money as bush, I’d probably be voting Repub and cursing Clinton.
But then, that’s just me!
From electoral-vote.com
“Bernanke Endorses Democratic Stimulus Plan
After Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Obama Sunday, it looked like things couldn’t get any worse for John McCain on the endorsement score. Well, they just did. Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke has endorsed the economic stimulus plan supported by Obama and the Democrats. Having the Fed chairman say that Obama and the Democrats have the right ideas on the economy will surely be helpful to Obama even if he wasn’t named explicitly. President Bush and the Republicans generally oppose the Democratic plan.”
My children are well educated and successful. I never thought I would need to depend on them, but they assure me their success will be shared, they even say things about, “without your support…”
Of course, I won’t accept that! unless we elect McCain and our country goes further to hell in a hand basket. McCain who will continue bush’s economic policies because, after all, he doesn’t know anything else. And he has a running mate who doesn’t know anything!
Christopher Buckley on The Dailey Show — was brilliant! I hope you didn’t miss it!
nite all.
This letter is so well written, it may even make some of his supporters think twice, or maybe not as they are so seemingly stupid. Nonetheless it has 7 remarkably great questions to the type of man he is.
Dear Mr. Obama,
It is October 2, 2008. My name is Mark Gregg. I am a 50 something conservative white male. I have followed your campaign closely, including the speeches you and others made at the democratic national convention. I am respectfully providing you with seven simple (probably shallow) reasons why I could never vote for you. I believe my opinion is shared by many people. While there may not be quite enough to prevent you from becoming president of this nation, I do think there is an awakening to the fact that you are not a (the) messiah that the media and liberal Hollywood entertainers are trying to portray you.
1.. I hear your mantra of change, change, change. Yet, you picked a long term, liberal, Washington insider (Joe Biden) to be your running mate. This is NOT change. It is a move that hypocritically refutes the very thing you supposedly stand for. Your campaign then slammed McCain for picking Sarah Palin, apparently, because she is NOT a Washington Insider. She is a maverick who cleaned-up Alaska’s quagmire of political scandals. Which way is it, Barack? Is it okay for you to pick a Washington insider under the mantra of change, but not okay for John McCain to pick a smart, aggressive, reformer?
2.. You have the single most liberal voting record in the senate. This indicates to me and others like me that you may very well be an angry black man seeking to punish our country for sins of a different generation. I am not racist. I have some biases just like you and every other human alive. Unlike the Democratic Party who claims to be for the minority (but their record heavily refutes this), I will give any person who truly needs help, help. I married a minority girl 35 years ago (she is Hispanic) and have seen the evils of prejudice first hand. However, I have also seen my wife and my children and others in her family throw off the veil of self imposed prejudicial bondage and move ahead. They love our country and do not view themselves any different than I view myself as a citizen of this country.. Your lovely wife so disappointed people like me during this campaign when she stated it was the first time she had ever been proud of this country. She apparently never noticed the massive aid we give dozens of other countries. She apparently never noticed the sacrifice of literally millions of veterans who helped make this country a free nation and helped liberate other nations from brutal dictators such as Adolf Hitler. She apparently does not remember that she attended Ivy League universities with scholarship money that ultimately (at least some of it) was paid for by our taxes. This troubles me more than you know. She is an angry black woman who appears to not like her country very much. I don’t want her representing me to the rest of the world.
3.. You claim Christianity but apparently do not realize that the Bible teaches that he who does not work, does not eat. The Bible does not say or even suggest that he, who CANNOT work, should not eat. Yet, your liberal policies reward people who are capable of working, but choose to not do so. This bothers me. I know that if you are elected our taxes will spiral upwards. You should heed the words of Winston Churchill: We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. If I like anything about you, it is your campaign promise to balance the federal budget. Unfortunately, we have heard this a huge number of times from a number of different politicians and we realize that when you energize the very liberal Nancy Pelosi, Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, etc, etc, and the many other Democrats like them, a balanced budget will never, ever happen on your watch.
4.. During your question and answer session with Rick Warren of Saddleback Church your answer concerning the question of where does life begin, stunned me: Above your pay grade? Does this mean when something bad happens as President of this nation that you are going to look at your salary to determine if you can respond? I am sorry, but this was the most serious gaffe I have seen you make. Frankly, it shows me that you are pandering in the most obvious manner. You will choose your words not from your heart, but from an agenda that I believe is still hidden from the American people.
5.. If anything stands out about you it is probably your appeasement mentality. In this era of rampant, radical Islamic extremism and with the latest stunt pulled by the re-energized Russian government, I am not sure appeasement is healthy. I again revert to the words of Winston Churchill: An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
6.. You and your party tacitly believe that a 13 or 14 year old girl must have the parents approval to have the school nurse provide them with a Tylenol when they have a headache at school. Yet, this same girl can become pregnant and the school can skirt her off to a clinic and abort the child in her body without the parents knowing or being notified. This scares the hell out of me. You have two little girls. Would you be upset if this happened to them and you were not informed? Then why do you stand for this? It makes no sense to me.
7.. My seventh and final point (for now) is your supporters. I have watched the Hollywood entertainers that support you, systematically embrace Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and others like him. I see the continuous smut and garbage produced by Hollywood, the very people who promote you the most vigorously. It is not a positive point to me and others like me to see these over-paid, bizarre, poor examples of human existence fawn over you and push you and your liberal agenda as hard as they do. The way that I see it; when the devil is for you, we should question whether or not we should be against you.
In closing, I just want you to know that you scare me. I cannot vote for you. It is not because of your skin color. It is because these items and many, many others like them. Do not claim that my dislike for you is race based. It is because I do not feel you have the best interests of this nation at heart.
Respectfully, Mark A. Gregg
No link, Boxlick? Big surprise there.
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StevenEDavis
Posted October 21, 2008 at 10:34 pm | Permalink
No link, Boxlick? Big surprise there.
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There are no style manual rules for a blog, this is freelance.
He gave credit by giving the author’s name.
StevenEDavisPosted October 21, 2008 at 10:34 pm |
“No link, Boxlick? Big surprise there.”
Steven you dumb ass, just put the guys name into a search engine and the the entire page shows links.
Hell, do you need someone wipe you too.
Your pathetic.
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mxyzptlk
Posted October 21, 2008 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
The Hate Talk Express hits again!!
(CNN) — A North Carolina congressman locked in a tight re-election race admitted Tuesday to recently telling a crowd of John McCain supporters that “liberals hate real Americans,” the latest in a string of comments from Republicans that appear to question Democrats’ patriotism.
The comments came at a McCain rally in Concord, North Carolina Saturday before the Arizona senator or members of his staff had arrived at the event. As first reported by the New York Observer, Hayes said, “Liberals hate real Americans that work and achieve and believe in God.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
If Republicans want to run their campaign like this, I suggest they call themselves the NAZI Party because more and more that’s who they sound like.
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You mean the truth hurts?
There hasn’t been any love shown on this blog for their fellow man and woman who aren’t of the same party.
From what I’ve read on the Daily Kos, the display of hate is consistent with being a leftist Lib.
Open your eyes…
Well since you ARE known for posting lies there Boxlock?
Steven’s call for a link IS just.
Special City Council Meeting Scheduled
Date: October 21, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
A special meeting of the Wichita City Council has been scheduled for 1 p.m. Thursday, October 23, in the City Council chambers of City Hall, 455 N. Main.
The purpose of the special meeting is to consider the following items:
1.
Intrust Bank Arena Street Improvements. (District I)
2.
Resolution considering the Expansion of the Center City South Redevelopment District, Tax Increment Financing. (Districts I and VI)
3.
Resolution considering the adoption of a Redevelopment Project Plan, Tax Increment Financing C.O.R.E. Redevelopment District. (District VI)
4.
Charter Ordinance-City Primary Elections.
5. Second Reading Ordinance, (Broadview Ord. No. 48-100, first read October 7, 2008)
6.
To consider any items announced at the October 7th City Council Meeting
7.
To consider any routine Consent items added to the Agenda before the meeting.
8.
To announce an executive session as may be required.
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Oh yeah, this is about the parking that was supposed to be funded from the sales tax receipts.
Hell, do you need someone wipe you too.
Your {sic} pathetic.
Sure Boxy. You are one very stupid MoFo. Thanks for your contributions.
James, the Asperger’s man, always has so much to contribute. He looks like and is a great deal very much like Ted Kaczynski:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Kaczynski
Ted’s younger brother was a decent man. Will provide links to those who are able to see. Few, this late at night, I am sure.
James’ younger and older sisters are not nearly as sorry as he is.
So no one can explain how the VP can force “good policy changes” in the Senate, as Sarah Palin claimed?
‘Sarah Palin: VP Is ‘In Charge Of United States Senate’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA
Poor Brandon in the 3rd grade, who asked Palin WHAT does the VP do, is going to VERY disappointed with her answer.
And his family, and classroom will also be VERY disappointed.
But that’s okay, because Palin says that being the VP is a “really GREAT job” (smile).
And if you didn’t hear hear her the 1st time, it’s a “GREAT job” (smile).
“Kansas values”(sic) Regular posted October 21, 2008 at 10:41 pm
There are no style manual rules for a blog, this is freelance.
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Multi-nic’d Regular is solid proof of that.
Multi-nic’d Regular adds completely false, fictional paragraphs to his copy/paste posts.
And multi-nic’d Regular also makes “Kansas values”(sic) posts, like suggesting that a columnist might have shrunken testes.
Two weeks from tonight, it is two hours after poll close on the west coast.
Tic,tic,tic,
DavidB,
“Is Sarah Palin qualified to be YOUR Commander in Chief?”
Yes.
As I have said many times in the past, the Commander and Chief merely sets the goals and overall mission.
It is the many Generals in the Pentagon and Commanders on the ground who implement it.
And here is the person Nathaniel believes is qualified to be his Commander in Chief.
‘Sarah Palin: VP Is ‘In Charge Of United States Senate’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA
Yeah, many people often confuse being President with being in charge.
They are obviously so far apart it would be absurd to even think that being a President is like being in charge.
EYEROLL
Nathaniel posted October 22, 2008 at 12:35 am
Yeah, many people often confuse being President with being in charge.
They are obviously so far apart it would be absurd to even think that being a President is like being in charge.
EYEROLL
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Nathaniel, “VP” is short for “Vice-President”, NOT “President”.
‘Sarah Palin: VP Is ‘In Charge Of United States Senate’ ‘
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA
Regarding Nathaniel’s opinions, and beliefs. . .
Remember that about 500,000 fewer Americans voted for Bush than Gore, in 2000.
Then compare that basic fact with Nathaniel’s (false) claim.
NATHANIEL: “And most Americans disagreed with you liberals twice when we voted for Bush as well.”
For the Boxer man >>>>
Regarding that — Ahem — “letter” from the alleged Mark A. Gregg —- Addressing just ONE of “Gregg’s” points — the one where he claims the Bible is against helping others….
Point 3:
In this point you say the Bible does not support being charitable. Perhaps you have one of those Bibles printed by supporters of the last administration. Since relevant sections are often not discussed, these Bibles seem to have uhh, some pages missing.
Should you need a replacement, any local church should be able to help you get one. As for your assertion the Bible says nothing about charity, I might suggest you read sections Deuteronomy 15:7-11, James 2:14-17, Ecclesiastes 5:7-14, I Corinthians 9:7, 13:13 and oh, many many more sections once you get that complete Bible.
Yes, the VP IS President of the Senate… That means, technically, that the President of the Senate CAN, if he/she chooses, Preside at any Session of the Senate that he/she so chooses…. However, the only Authority he/she has as President of the Senate, is to vote in event of a TIE…
Beyond that, the VP has NO legislative powers, or setting Senate policy, or anything…
What Palin thinks she will do to reform the role of the President of the Senate, would take a Constitutional Amendment for her to do… DUH!!!
Real bright there, Guv!!!
Cosmos,
The VP IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE.
In regards to my statement on Bush being elected:
And if you would pay attention, I know I was wrong,I already said I was wrong in that thread to Ben.
I said I was wrong earlier today as well.
Yet you keep going on and on and on like an idiot.
Chas,
I am surprised to see you talking about using a complete Bible when you so readily dismiss most of what the complete Bible says on several other subjects.
Nathaniel,
You are NOT doing a very good job of defending your opinions.
Or defending Sarah Palin’s false claim that the VP is “in charge Of United States Senate”.
Nathaniel, you might want to follow the advice that your friend, multi-nic’d Regular, gave to Rod Dreher?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/not-voting-as-a-principled-choice/#comment-449646
Nathaniel,
Please explain how the VP, or the President pro tempore, or a freshman Senator is “in charge” of the Senate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Presiding_over_the_Senate
“Like the Vice President, the President pro tempore does not normally preside over the Senate, but typically delegates the responsibility of presiding to junior senators of the majority party. Frequently, freshmen senators (newly elected members) are allowed to preside so that they may become accustomed to the rules and procedures of the body.”
Cosmos,
Defending my opinions?
I was asked if I thought Palin was ready to be Commander in Chief. I think she is.
All you did was post a clip of Palin saying that the VP is in charge of the Senate.
So what?
The Vice President also certifies the official vote count of the U.S. Electoral College.
If in the opinion of the Vice President, he thinks there are irregularities, he doesn’t have to give certification and can ask the Justice department to investigate.
(chortles)
Cosmos,
Why don’t you tell me how the Vice President is “President” of the Senate?
A Link to my above post (Response to “Gregg”) — So interesting to see that Nathan has responded to a post directed to Boxlicker…
http://www.sodahead.com/user/profile/895055/jodie/
‘Response to “Gregg” Letter’
And you find that located WHERE exactly, Reguliar??? Hmmmmm???
Last one for tonight >>>>
Frank Schaeffer (huffingtonpost.com)
Posted October 8, 2008 | 02:45 PM (EST)
Obama Will Be One of The Greatest (and Most Loved) American Presidents
Great presidents are made great by horrible circumstances combined with character, temperament and intelligence. Like firemen, cops, doctors or soldiers, presidents need a crisis to shine.
Obama is one of the most intelligent presidential aspirants to ever step forward in American history.. The likes of his intellectual capabilities have not been surpassed in public life since the Founding Fathers put pen to paper. His personal character is also solid gold. Take heart, America : we have the leader for our times.
I say this as a white, former life-long Republican. I say this as the proud father of a Marine. I say this as just another American watching his pension evaporate along with the stock market! I speak as someone who knows it’s time to forget party loyalty, ideology and pride and put the country first. I say this as someone happy to be called a fool for going out on a limb and declaring that, 1) Obama will win, and 2) he is going to be amongst the greatest of American presidents.
Obama is our last best chance. He’s worth laying it all on the line for. This is a man who in the age of greed took the high road of community service. This is the good father and husband. This is the humble servant. This is the patient teacher. This is the scholar statesman. This is the man of deep Christian faith.
Good stories about Obama abound; from his personal relationship with his Secret Service agents (he invites them into his home to watch sports, and shoots hoops with them) to the story about how, more than twenty years ago, while standing in the check-in line at an airport, Obama paid a $100 baggage surcharge for a stranger who was broke and stuck. (Obama was virtually penniless himself in those days.) Years later after he became a senator, that stranger recognized Obama’s picture and wrote to him to thank him. She received a kindly note back from the senator. (The story only surfaced because the person, who lives in Norway , told a local newspaper after Obama ran for the presidency. The paper published a photograph of this lady proudly displaying Senator Obama’s letter.)
Where many leaders are two-faced; publicly kindly but privately feared and/or hated by people closest to them, Obama is consistent in the way he treats people, consistently kind and personally humble. He lives by the code that those who lead must serve. He believes that. He lives it. He lived it long before he was in the public eye.
Obama puts service ahead of ideology. He also knows that to win politically you need to be tough. He can be. He has been. This is a man who does what works, rather than scoring ideological points. In other words he is the quintessential non-ideological pragmatic American. He will (thank God!) disappoint ideologues and purists of the left and the right.
Obama has a reservoir of personal physical courage that is unmatched in presidential history. Why unmatched? Because as the first black contender for the presidency who will win, Obama, and all the rest of us, know that he is in great physical danger from the seemingly unlimited reserve of unhinged racial hatred, and just plain unhinged ignorant hatred, that swirls in the bowels of our wounded and sinful country. By stepping forward to lead, Obama has literally put his life on the line for all of us in a way no white candidate ever has had to do. (And we all know how dangerous the presidency has been even for white presidents.)
Nice stories or even unparalleled courage isn’t the only point. The greater point about Obama is that the midst of our worldwide financial meltdown, an expanding (and losing) war in Afghanistan, trying to extricate our country from a wrong and stupidly mistaken, ruinously expensive war in Iraq, our mounting and crushing national debt, awaiting the next (and inevitable) al Qaeda attack on our homeland, watching our schools decline to Third World levels of incompetence, facing a general loss of confidence in the government that has been exacerbated by the Republicans doing all they can to undermine our government’s capabilities and programs… President Obama will take on the leadership of our country at a make or break time of historic proportions. He faces not one but dozens of crisis, each big enough to define any presidency in better times.
As luck, fate or divine grace would have it (depending on one’s personal theology) Obama is blessedly, dare I say uniquely, well-suited to our dire circumstances. Obama is a person with hands-on community service experience, deep connections to top economic advisers from the renowned University of Chicago where he taught law, and a middle-class background that gives him an abiding knowledgeable empathy with the rest of us. As the son of a single mother, who has worked his way up with merit and brains, recipient of top-notch academic scholarships, the peer-selected editor of the Harvard Law Review and, in three giant political steps to state office, national office and now the presidency, Obama clearly has the wit and drive to lead.
Obama is the sober voice of reason at a time of unreason. He is the fellow keeping his head while all around him are panicking. He is the healing presence at a time of national division and strife. He is also new enough to the political process so that he doesn’t suffer from the terminally jaded cynicism, the seen-it-all-before syndrome afflicting most politicians in Washington . In that regard we Americans lucked out. It’s as if having despaired of our political process we picked a name from the phone book to lead us and that person turned out to be a very man we needed.
Obama brings a healing and uplifting spiritual quality to our politics at the very time when our worst enemy is fear. For eight years we’ve been ruled by a stunted fear-filled mediocrity of a little liar who has expanded his power on the basis of creating fear in others. Fearless Obama is the cure. He speaks a litany of hope rather than a litany of terror.
As we have watched Obama respond in a quiet reasoned manner to crisis after crisis, in both the way he has responded after being attacked and lied about in the 2008 campaign season, to his reasoned response to our multiplying national crises, what we see is the spirit of a trusted family doctor with a great bedside manner. Obama is perfectly suited to hold our hand and lead us through some very tough times. The word panic is not in the Obama dictionary.
America is fighting its “Armageddon” in one fearful heart at a time. A brilliant leader with the mild manner of an old-time matter-of-fact country doctor soothing a frightened child is just what we need. The fact that our “doctor” is a black man leading a hitherto white-ruled nation out of the mess of its own making is all the sweeter and raises the Obama story to that of moral allegory.
Obama brings a moral clarity to his leadership reserved for those who have had to work for everything they’ve gotten and had to do twice as well as the person standing next to them because of the color of their skin. His experience of succeeding in spite of his color, social background and prejudice could have been embittering or one that fostered a spiritual rebirth of forgiveness and enlightenment. Obama radiates the calm inner peace of the spirit of forgiveness.
Speaking as a believing Christian I see the hand of a merciful God in Obama’s candidacy. The biblical metaphors abound. The stone the builder rejected is become the cornerstone… the last shall be first… he that would gain his life must first lose it… the meek shall inherit the earth.
For my secular friends I’ll allow that we may have just been extraordinarily lucky! Either way America wins. Only a brilliant man, with the spirit of a preacher and the humble heart of a kindly family doctor can lead us now. We are afraid, out of ideas, and worst of all out of hope. Obama is the cure. And we Americans have it in us to rise to the occasion. We will. We’re about to enter one of the most frightening periods of American history. Our country has rarely faced more uncertainty. This is the time for greatness. We have a great leader. We must be a great people backing him, fighting for him, sacrificing for a cause greater than ourselves.
A hundred years from now Obama’s portrait will be placed next to that of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt. Long before that we’ll be telling our children and grandchildren that we stepped out in faith and voted for a young black man who stood up and led our country back from the brink of an abyss.
We’ll tell them about the power of love, faith and hope. We’ll tell them about the power of creativity combined with humility and intellectual brilliance. We’ll tell them that President Obama gave us the gift of regaining our faith in our country. We’ll tell them that we all stood up and pitched in and won the day. We’ll tell them that President Obama restored our standing in the world. We’ll tell them that by the time he left office our schools were on the mend, our economy booming, that we’d become a nation filled with green energy alternatives and were leading the world away from dependence on carbon-based destruction. We’ll tell them that because of President Obama’s example and leadership the integrity of the family was restored, divorce rates went down, more fathers took responsibility for their children, and abortion rates fell dramatically as women, families and children were cared for through compassionate social programs that worked. We’ll tell them about how the gap closed between the middle class and the super rich, how we won health care for all, how crime rates fell, how bad wars were brought to an honorable conclusion. We’ll tell them that when we were attacked again by al Qaeda, how reason prevailed and the response was smart, tough, measured and effective, and our civil rights were protected even in times of crisis…
We’ll tell them that we were part of the inexplicably blessed miracle that happened to our country those many years ago in 2008 when a young black man was sent by God, fate or luck to save our country. We’ll tell them that it’s good to live in America where anything is possible. Yes we will.
Nathaniel
Posted October 22, 2008 at 1:12 am | Permalink
Cosmos,
Why don’t you tell me how the Vice President is “President” of the Senate?
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Ummm… do you read the Constitution often??
Nathaniel,
Why don’t YOU tell us, AND little Brandon, who is in the 3rd grade, how the VP can cause “good policy changes” in the Senate?
That’s what the person that you claim is qualified to be the Commander in Chief answered to 3rd grader Brandon’s question.
Have you watched the video, Nathaniel?
‘Sarah Palin: VP Is ‘In Charge Of United States Senate’ ‘
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA
Cosmos,
Why don’t YOU tell us how the Vice President is President of the Senate?
Title 3, United States Code (62 Stat. 672, as amended)
(chortles)
Well, time to leave this pissing match, before anybody gets wet….
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!
blessings to little 3rd Grader Brandon!!
so mote it be!!
Ummmm Regular — Link???
Chas,
Why don’t you google it like you tell everyone else?
If you are too dumb to look it up after what has been given to you then so be it.
From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]
[Laws in effect as of January 3, 2006]
[CITE: 3USC]
Nathaniel,
Since you may have hormonal problems, I’ll give you two hints.
The Senate majority leader is mostly “in CHARGE” of what happens in the Senate.
The “president” of the Senate just presides over the proceedings, and enforces the rules.
WATCH the video, Nathaniel. See your future CiC. LOL!
‘Sarah Palin: VP Is ‘In CHARGE Of United States Senate’ ‘
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA
Cosmos,
It is nice to see that you are already predicting that Palin will be my CiC.
I have no problem with that at all.
Besides, if she is CiC, then this discussion about her role in the Senate is a rather moot point.
WATCH the video, Nathaniel. LOL!
‘Sarah Palin: VP Is ‘In CHARGE Of United States Senate’ ‘
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA
But do NOT tell Sen. Reid, Sen. McConnell, and the other Senators about it.
It’s a special secret between Sarah Palin, 3rd grader Brandon, and Nathaniel.
Regular, so your claim is that your above post would supercede the Constitution of the United States??? Does that not involve the passing of a Constitutional Amendment??
Nathaniel
Posted October 22, 2008 at 1:30 am | Permalink
Chas,
Why don’t you google it like you tell everyone else?
If you are too dumb to look it up after what has been given to you then so be it.
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Nathan —- SHOVE IT!!! NITWIT!!!
If Barack Obama wins the 2008 presidential election, it will be an occasion for rejoicing for America’s enemies. Here’s why:
America’s enemies SEE: a man who is willing to sit down with the leaders of hostile countries with NO pre-conditions whatever. They THINK: Hey, this guy can be easily manipulated – and we’ll eventually be able to take America down altogether because Mr. O. wants to avoid conflicts at all costs. Instead of sending the troops against us, he’ll just keep trying to negotiate one deal after another.
They SEE: A guy with questionable political relationships, including an unrepentant American terrorist who has not only escaped serious criminal prosecution, but is even a distinguished college professor, and a pastor who has gotten away with spewing anti-American sentiments and hate messages for years from his pulpit. They THINK: Hey, if Obama is willing to have these kind of people for friends. . .maybe he’ll be friends with us, too. We’ll certainly use him to our advantage.
They SEE: A guy who doesn’t see the military as a priority and is even willing to cut funding for it. They THINK: Hey, it will be that much easier to wipe American soldiers off the map, since they’re obviously not that important to Mr. O. and they won’t have the resources needed to beat our dedicated terrorists and suicide bombers. . .
They SEE: a man who is overly concerned about how humanely terrorist prisoners are treated. They THINK: Hey, we can carry out the worst terrorist attacks ever conceived. . .because this guy won’t do anything bad to the terrorists he catches. The death penalty? Out of the question, even though our ruthless terrorists have taken hundreds of innocent lives themselves.
They SEE: a man to whom patriotism obviously isn’t cool, a guy who doesn’t salute his own country’s flag and won’t wear a flag pin on his lapel – unless somehow guilted into it. And he would be willing to refrain from displaying any form of patriotism if someone makes a fuss over it – even if that person is a foreigner on U.S. soil while making those anti-American statements. They THINK: This is a guy whose love of country is so questionable that he might be willing to put patriotism aside for the sake of his own interests.
They SEE: a man who is willing to accept campaign donations from people outside of the United States, even though this is technically illegal. Obama gets away with it because only amounts over $200 have to be detailed as far as names, addresses, etc, go – and he simply asks for donations from these people to be given in very small amounts. They THINK: Wow, this guy could possibly be easily bribed with just the right of amount of cold hard cash. . .
They SEE: a man who is obviously inexperienced as far as leadership of a large country and military dealings go. Neither Obama nor Biden have had any military experience whatsoever, and it really is important that either one or the other should know SOMETHING about how our armed forces operate, since they will be the ones giving marching orders in an international conflict. It also doesn’t help that Obama’s turbo-tongued VP practically guarantees a major crisis within six months of being elected, so that the world can see exactly what Obama is made of. While Biden claims that Obama has a steel of spine, it’s more likely that Obama, when faced with another 9/11 type of catastrophe, will prove to have a spine of jell-o. The guy has been treated almost like a god by the liberal media and has NEVER been in a pressure cooker kind of situation. They THINK: “OK boys, bring it on! We can take this guy down in no time – and the rest of the country along with him!”
They SEE: A man who has said, with his own lips, that if elected, he will completely eradicate America’s nuclear weapons program. They THINK: “OK guys, time to step up our nuclear weapons productions! America will be a sitting duck once Obama’s gotten rid of all THEIR defenses!”
America’s enemies are not stupid – they know quite a bit about what goes on in our country and no doubt they’re watching this presidential race pretty closely. This is why we need to have John McCain in the White House – because McCain, and Palin too, are two people that that America’s enemies know better than to trifle with. With McCain in office, terrorists will certainly think twice before trying to pull another 9/11 on us – he is a man who will stand up to our enemies and not kowtow to them like Obama probably would. I have the exact same confidence in Sarah Palin, should she ever have to take the reins and assume the role of president. But on the flip side, Obama’s loyalty to the U.S. and his stance against terrorism is very questionable and I really fear for the safety of our nation if he gets into office. I’m not even sure that Biden, despite his years of experience in the senate, would be much help either during a national disaster, since he’s never had to take control of the country during a REALLY crucial time. In my opinion, he has made far too many gaffes during his public speeches, to really be considered trustworthy for the position of the second highest office in the land.
Don’t give our enemies a reason to rejoice by electing Barack Obama. Help keep our beloved country safe by electing two people who REALLY care about America: John McCain and Sarah Palin.
Re: JoMarieM
Mindless Friggin Shill
Totally Scroll-over
John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) speaks –
I think you may have noticed that Senator Obama’s supporters have been saying some pretty nasty things about western Pennsylvania lately. And you know, I couldn’t agree with them more.
I couldn’t disagree with you. I couldn’t agree with you more than the fact that western Pennsylvania is the most patriotic, most God loving, most, most patriotic part of America, and this is a great part of the country.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLVSURlFoQs
Thanks for clearing that up, old man.
Since her selection as John McCain’s running mate, the Republican National Committee spent more than $150,000 on clothing and make-up for Gov. Sarah Palin, her husband, and even her infant son, it was reported on Tuesday evening.
CNN
At least as she leads Nat into war.. she’ll look goooood!
“DavidB” –
Just who does the Moose-Dresser think she is? Cindy McC*nt?!
You’ve gotta wonder what the RNC when they saw Palin’s own wardrobe. The horror! The horror!
“Liberals hate real Americans that work and achieve and believe in God.”
(CNN) — A North Carolina congressman locked in a tight re-election race admitted Tuesday to recently telling a crowd of John McCain supporters that “liberals hate real Americans,” the latest in a string of comments from Republicans that appear to question Democrats’ patriotism.
Rep. Robin Hayes, a five-term Republican who has been heavily targeted by Democrats this election cycle, first denied making the remarks, but conceded Monday afternoon that he was accurately quoted.
“After reading it, there is no doubt that it came out completely the wrong way,” Hayes said. “I actually was trying to work to keep the crowd as respectful as possible, so this is definitely not what I intended.”
The comments came at a McCain rally in Concord, North Carolina Saturday before the Arizona senator or members of his staff had arrived at the event. As first reported by the New York Observer, Hayes said, “Liberals hate real Americans that work and achieve and believe in God.”
Regarding Congressman Hayes, R-NC >>>>
Can you say, “RR Takeover Bid” boyz and ghouls??
RR Rally Agenda >>>>
First Seminar — Liberal Bashing for RR
Second Seminar – Liberal Book burning made easy
Third Seminar — Firearms Review for Liberal sightings
JoMarieM
Posted October 22, 2008 at 2:16 am | Permalink
If Barack Obama wins the 2008 presidential election, it will be an occasion for rejoicing for America’s enemies. Here’s why: yadda, yadda, yadda . . .
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JoMarieM seems to know an awful lot about terrorists. Makes me wonder if JoMarieM has a direct line to them in order to get her marching orders.
“JoMarieM seems to know an awful lot about terrorists. Makes me wonder if JoMarieM has a direct line to them in order to get her marching orders.”
Terry fox and joe wright probably have her on speed dial. And phred phelps too.