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I would definately vote for any candidate that would do this!!
from CNN: Commentary: Food banks instead of campaign ads
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/16/campbell.brown.negative.ads/index.html
Sung to the tune of Y.M.C.A.. Now that strains tolerance.
Plug stumble upon or stumbleupon into your Google. Should lead you to a tool bar program which allows you to surf randomly within interest areas. It’s where I’ve been coming up with all those wonderful links I’ve been sending you, like the revolving tethered spinning helium balloon power generating station.
Here it is. Duh!
http://www.stumbleupon.com/
I think that every time a CON posts today we should post McCain’s song.
If CONS DON’T want it posted then they can simply choose not to post.
I think we should seriously discuss the issues instead of focusing on meaningless distractions.
Just like right now, the news is concentrating on “Joe the plumber”…Let’s see, he doesn’t have a plumbing license, he owes back taxes, but he IS registered to vote (previously it was said he wasn’t)…and why should I give a rat’s ass?
I’m more concerned about what the candidates plan to do about the healthcare crisis.
>I think that every time a CON posts today we should post McCain’s song.
If CONS DON’T want it posted then they can simply choose not to post.<
That sounds really intelligent… if you are a bunch of 6 year olds feeling big because you can say naughty words.
Remember what your own Mr Obama said: You should disagree without being disagreeable!
So, mxy.. is now saying that anyone who doesn’t share his myopic vision is not allowed to post or have an opinion? The bill of rights has been repealed, according to the lib posters here? Freedom of speech is no longer a right–at least not a right of people who libs disagree with?
Welcome to the libs perfect world..where anyone who disagrees with them is subjected to chilish obscenities.
typo…”childish”
Raptor and any CON can post anything he likes. Talk to John McCain about childish obscenities. He’s the one that disrespects women.
mxyzprick, monkeyspunk, typical democraps.
mxyzprick- He’s the one that disrespects women.
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uh er…plan…uh lipstick on a pig…uh…my plan…
Ahhhh…but if ANYONE posts anything that mxz doesn’t like, they will be “punished” by repeating a vulgar and offensive post.
Now that is really mature. A yep…I bet your mom is really proud of you.
I sse that the FBI is now starting an investigation of voter fraud by ACORN. What a surprise. Of course, the libs will ignore this, shove it under a rug, and scream an offensive word that they claim McCain MIGHT have uttered once. Total diversion and pretend it doesn’t exist. Let’s ignore widespread voter FRAUD….let’s ignore violation of federal voting laws.
Federal felonies are to be ignored if they involve a lib supported group. right?
Raptor- Federal felonies are to be ignored if they involve a lib supported group. right?
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Libtard mantra: Let every vote count (as many times as we can get away with)
Where is the outrage? Where is the spittle spewing venom that the libs are so famous for when there is the slightest charge of voter fraud?
Oh…right…this is involving them. Shhhhh. quiet. Ignore it, maybe it will go away.
According to the FBI, there is a wide spread pattern of voter fraud throughout the country, involving ACORN. but..shhhhh..the libs will ignore it. No outcry, no demands for investigations. Shhhhhh.
Raptor and biased1 are prime examples of why CONs are losing this election. Full of themselves and seeing their words on a blog, they DON’T volunteer for their candidates, they don’t contribute anything but vile hate, and they grow fatter sitting on their sorry butts.
Thanks guys for handing us Dims, libtards, etc, full control. You guys are the greatest!
“State ends universal healthcare for keiki”
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008810170342
Raptor,
While I don’t agree with the suggestion of repeated posting of the song MH posted, please tell me why I have to put up with the garbage below:
biased1
Posted October 17, 2008 at 7:45 am | Permalink
mxyzprick, monkeyspunk, typical democraps.
Thanks to some others on this blog, THIS seems to be the best we can do where new posters are concerned. You want serious discussions? Find a way to get rid of the juveniles.
mxyzpunk
Posted October 17, 2008 at 8:05 am | Permalink
Raptor and biased1 are prime examples of why CONs are losing this election. Full of themselves and seeing their words on a blog, they DON’T volunteer for their candidates, they don’t contribute anything but vile hate, and they grow fatter sitting on their sorry butts.
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Go write another song weenie boy. Keep the noise down, your moms upstairs trying to sleep….
Show a credible source for this statement: “According to the FBI, there is a wide spread pattern of voter fraud throughout the country’
You can’t because you made it up. An investigation is just an investigation.
Eleven arrests from thousands of employees and volunteers? And no fraudulent votes have been reported anywhere.
Look at what the Wall Street Journal has to say about the prospect of a super majority in congress and a Democrat President.
They say it is ominous for everyone, including the Democrats themselves, with no power to shape bills or policy. A recipe for disaster for us socially and economically without checks and balances. Socialism and higher taxes would result, and a severe hit on business, employment and the economy.
A Liberal Supermajority
Get ready for ‘change’ we haven’t seen since 1965, or 1933.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
“Though we doubt most Americans realize it, this would be one of the most profound political and ideological shifts in U.S. history. Liberals would dominate the entire government in a way they haven’t since 1965, or 1933. In other words, the election would mark the restoration of the activist government that fell out of public favor in the 1970s. If the U.S. really is entering a period of unchecked left-wing ascendancy, Americans at least ought to understand what they will be getting, especially with the media cheering it all on.
The nearby table shows the major bills that passed the House this year or last before being stopped by the Senate minority. Keep in mind that the most important power of the filibuster is to shape legislation, not merely to block it. The threat of 41 committed Senators can cause the House to modify its desires even before legislation comes to a vote. Without that restraining power, all of the following have very good chances of becoming law in 2009 or 2010.
In both 1933 and 1965, liberal majorities imposed vast expansions of government that have never been repealed, and the current financial panic may give today’s left another pretext to return to those heydays of welfare-state liberalism. Americans voting for “change” should know they may get far more than they ever imagined.”
The article about SIX and Tiller is blocked too e-mails and comment e-mails. You can post, yet your request to e-mail out is blocked. I was threatened as a Candidate for Sheriff, and SIX and his staff told me, “If I call back I will be arrested because I am a citizen not a State employee, they work for State Employees not citizens”. Because this was stated by Lee Davidson, why can they pursue Tiller? He is not a State Employee, nor is Morrison. Kline was appointed and so was SIX. I smell a “RAT”! Impeach Sebelius and remove SIX. Herbert West 3rd, Candidate for Sheriff, Miami County Kansas. http://www.HerbertWest3rd.com http://www.HerbertWest3rd-W-I-Senate-Ks.com http://www.HerbertWest3rd-W-I-Representative-Ks.com
“samkan
Posted October 17, 2008 at 6:21 am | Permalink
I would definately vote for any candidate that would do this!!
from CNN: Commentary: Food banks instead of campaign ads
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/16/campbell.brown.negative.ads/index”
I think I heard a radio news spot this morning that McCain and Obama did a joint charity appearence in New York. If that is correct that would be a wonderful piece of news.
From the Howard Stern Show yesterday…. UNBELIEVEABLE….
Click: http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3
And these idiots are allowed to vote, even sought out by ACORN.
Maybe this country deserves to fall from grace and prosperity if this stupidity and racism is prevalent, which apparently it is.
You make my point perfectly biased1. Keep blogging away while we “dims” take over. See Boxlock’s post.
It’s the future.
Boxlock has taken to shouting. Please Boxlock, it’s a peaceful, beautiful morning why all the yelling?
Monkey, I’m not real certain the song words are appropriate… I understand the sentiment… but surely there must be another word that can be fit in to the lyrics…. :-)
Look for the market to fall today:
Bush to give pep talk to anxious country Friday
WASHINGTON – Wild gyrations on Wall Street, a loss of confidence in the U.S. banking system and worries the economy will be weak for some time are raising Americans’ anxiety level.
Against this backdrop, President Bush on Friday was to give the nation a more detailed explanation of what the government is doing to battle the worst financial crisis in more than a half-century.
Despite a flurry of radical actions by the Bush administration and the Federal Reserve, banks in the United States and abroad are still wary of lending money to each other and to their customers. The credit clog is depriving the wheezing U.S. economy of oxygen.
Financial and credit problems have dragged on for more than a year and took a dangerous turn for the worse last month. All the fallout threatens to plunge the U.S. economy – as well as the world economy – into a painful recession.
That has led to erratic trading on Wall Street, where the Dow Jones industrials have swung widely, slashing a trillion dollars of wealth from the markets one day, only to pile some of it back on the next. The Dow appeared headed for a lower opening Friday after tacking on more than 400 points Thursday.
Before Bush spoke, there was more grim news: Home builders cut back sharply, dropping new-home construction to its slowest pace since January 1991, when the country was in a recession and going through a similar painful housing correction.
White House officials said Bush didn’t intend to put forward any new policy actions Friday. The president was delivering his address at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce headquarters across from the White House.
Earlier this week, the Treasury Department announced it would inject up to $250 billion in U.S. banks in return for partial ownership stakes, something that hasn’t been done since the Great Depression of the 1930s. The government hopes banks will use the capital infusions to rebuild their reserves and bolster lending to customers.
Bush and his top economic aides have repeatedly asked Americans to be patient and give the government’s relief efforts time to work. Democrats on Capitol Hill, though, insist another round of economic stimulus is needed.
So far this year, 15 banks have failed, compared with three last year. And Wall Street’s five biggest investment firms were swallowed by other companies, filed bankruptcy or converted themselves into commercial banks to weather the financial storm.
At the same time of the Treasury announcement, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. said it would temporarily guarantee new issues of bank debt – fully protecting the money even if the institution fails.
The FDIC also said it would provide unlimited deposit insurance for non-interest bearing accounts, which are mainly used by small businesses to cover payrolls and other expenses. Frequently, these accounts exceed the current $250,000 insurance limit, so the expanded insurance should discourage nervous companies from pulling their money out.
Last week, the Fed and the world’s other major central banks joined forces to slice interest rates, the first coordinated action of that kind in the Fed’s history. The United States and other top economic powers adopted a five-point action plan last week and pledged to do all they can to stem the crisis.
Even with so many unprecedented steps taken, Wall Street has convulsed. On Thursday, the Dow Jones industrials finished up 401.35 points, after falling 380 points early in the session. A day earlier, the Dow fell a staggering 733 points. The index started the week with a record-shattering 936-point gain.
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke warned this week that even if financial markets were to stabilize, the economy would not quickly snap back to good health.
Unemployment – now at 6.1 percent – could hit 7.5 percent or higher by next year. Many analysts predict the economy will shrink later this year and early next year, meeting the classic definition of a recession. Some believe the economy already jolted into reverse during the July-to-September quarter.
Americans are feeling strained as their paychecks shrink and their savings shrivel. That’s causing shoppers to cut back, one of the reasons the economy is losing traction. Economic slowdowns overseas, meanwhile, are expected to crimp demand for U.S. exports, which has been a main force keeping the economy afloat.
http://www.kansas.com/wireupdates/story/563265.html
YouTube – Obama Roasts McCain at Al Smith Dinner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5SWQJWm6Tg&feature=related
YouTube – McCain Roasts Obama At Alfred E. Smith Dinner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j82lhqiAF-M
Enjoy
mxyzptlk,
You are nothing but a pig!
mxyzptlk,
And the fun thing is…..you know it!
Rap, Am I somehow supposed to get all excited about this?:
Details of the inquiry weren’t readily available. McClatchy confirmed an Associated Press report disclosing the investigation and learned that the FBI was attempting to determine if ACORN systematically encouraged the creation of fake voter registrations in several states.
. . .particularly considering these little tidbit:
Project Vote’s Slater said the timing of the investigation was ”highly suspicious” because it was so close to the election.
”We knew this was coming,” Slater told McClatchy. “We saw in 2004 that we were attacked by Republican interests, and law enforcement was politicized to go after us. We saw civil suits and organizations created whose specific purpose was to demonize ACORN.”
Rap, can you name a single case of proven voter fraud from the 2004 election?
Or this. . .
Because those new voters often support Democrats, Republicans have targeted ACORN and accused organizers of trying to undermine elections. Under former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, U.S. attorneys were encouraged to bring voter-fraud cases, mostly against Democrats, and some prosecutors who balked were fired.
But, wait, why is there an investigation?
Earlier, Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio sent a letter asking Attorney General Michael Mukasey to order an investigation of whether ACORN was committing voter registration fraud in an organized way.
BATTLEGROUND BATTLE
The Ohio Republican Party is in a court battle with Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner over potential election fraud. The Republicans won a federal appeals court order demanding that Brunner turn over to county election officials by Friday the names of about 200,000 new registrants whose personal information did not exactly match state drivers’ license or Social Security data.
Any discrepancies, no matter how small, could be used to challenge the eligibility of those Ohioans to vote. Brunner filed an emergency appeal to the Supreme Court.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/729628.html
The argument, I guess, is that there is somehow an organized conspiracy directed by ACORN to register fake names and addresses, and then get people to vote under those. By all means, investigate, investigate, and investigate some more, by I somehow doubt an organzation that hires indigent volunteers has the organization, secrecy and logistics to pull that off. Certainly the examples we’ve seen (Mickey Mouse, etc.) so far have proven the exact opposite (and ever consider what happens when a fake registration card is mailed to a real address (or a thousand real addresses)? You think anyone would commit multiple felonies that casually?
You obviously haven’t thought this through, Rap, as you seem to think this somehow proves voter fraud has occurred, and ACORN was involved. Not so. Not even close.
Great to hear that Christian hate this morning. Your Pastor nust be proud of you. Oops, that’s right. You hide your blogging from your minister because you know it’s wrong to hate.
Boxlock
Posted October 17, 2008 at 8:12 am | Permalink
Look at what the Wall Street Journal has to say about the prospect of a super majority in congress and a Democrat President.
They say it is ominous for everyone, including the Democrats themselves, with no power to shape bills or policy. A recipe for disaster for us socially and economically without checks and balances. Socialism and higher taxes would result, and a severe hit on business, employment and the economy.
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Hmmmmmm… now lets see….
Didnt seem to bother you much when Komrade Newt and Bro. Frist took over in 1994, did it??
During this election year let’s be reminded of these words:
* You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.
* You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.
* You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.
* You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down.
* You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.
* You cannot build character and courage, by taking away people’s initiative and independence.
* You cannot help people permanently, by doing for them what they could and should, do for themselves.
Do you recognize the author?
It was Abraham Lincoln
Very, very wise words, and after almost 150 years the Democrats still don’t get it…..
DavidB..you want a source? try http://www.kansas.com, front page story about the FBI investigating ACORN voter fraud in at least 8 states.
the pitifully childish mxz writes:
“Raptor and biased1 are prime examples of why CONs are losing this election. Full of themselves and seeing their words on a blog, they DON’T volunteer for their candidates, they don’t contribute anything but vile hate, and they grow fatter sitting on their sorry butts.”
My comments were based on YOUR plan to ‘punish’ anyone who posts by reprinting that vulgar and childish ’song’. How is my post hateful? YOU are the one who wants to limit freedom of speech, not me.
I have volunteered for many, many candidates in this state and others. I have walked precincts, raised funds, worked phone banks and stuffed envelopes. Proof again that your stupidity and myopic opinions are groundless, without merit, and completely invented falsehoods. Go back to 3rd grade and practice your childish little insults on your classmates.
Gee raptor, I looked and read the article. The line “According to the FBI, there is a wide spread pattern of voter fraud throughout the country, involving ACORN.” ISN’T there because like Dave said YOU MADE IT UP.
Toady.
SolDevVB
Posted October 17, 2008 at 8:38 am | Permalin
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thanks sol
It was Abraham Lincoln
Actually, that was
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._H._Boetcker
I’m not sure how anyone could believe that Lincoln actually said that; not because he was some kind of Great Society liberal, but because the circumstances were so different, and he was occupied with a few other things (e.g., a friggin’ expensive Civil War).
There’s a double irony to it, as the Reconstruction Amendments that passed in the wake of the Civil War ultimately made the federal income tax possible.
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Ahhhh…semantics. I summarized and didn’t quote exactly. So, that excuses it all, and it becomes a non-story, according to the libs. Yet, if there was the slightest hint of any voting questions with a Republican associated organization, the libs would be screaming bloody murder.
Myopic vision much?
P.S. By the way, I completely agree with a lot of it, including:
You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.
Considering the continual class warfare on the poor and middle class we’ve seen over the past 28 years, some adjustments are in order.
I read the article.
The story says the FBI are looking into the allegations.
The poster stated that the FBI says there is wide-spread fraud. The FBI did not say that.
There is a big difference.
Ahhhh…semantics. I summarized and didn’t quote exactly.
Uhm, not exactly, Rap. There’s a big difference between investigating and the making the specific charge you claimed, which FBI did not do.
By the way, I thought Monkeyhawk’s “song” was an unnecessary distraction. I don’t care to see it again.
We are HAPPY the FBI is investigating.
Let’s get the facts out out there, instead of rumors, innuendoes, accusations, misrepresentations, misinterpretations (like your take on the artlcle) and the outright lies.
>Didnt seem to bother you much when Komrade Newt and Bro. Frist took over in 1994, did it??<
Chas.
If I remember correctly, the Newt era left us with balanced budgets. I believe the real fear here is not who is the supermajority, but what it can cost if that supermajority decides to let government run amock! In my opinion, I don’t care so much who has the majority, as long as there is balance… a tilt either way is not good for the moderates.
WSJ would be thoroughly delighted to see a repub super majority, WSJ=Rupert=Fox=Who Cares what they think!
“I sse that the FBI is now starting an investigation of voter fraud by ACORN. What a surprise. Of course, the libs will ignore this, shove it under a rug, and scream an offensive word that they claim McCain MIGHT have uttered once.” — Raptor
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I was glad to see this investigation will be undertaken! Voting is our privilege and responsibility, every eligible person should have ONE vote. If fraud is caught and stopped at the registration part of the process it further ensures a fair election.
Raptor, have you ever considered that generalizations may be as unfair as name calling? Is every person who is of one vocation, one neighborhood, one political party exactly alike? I hope you don’t think so, but if you do I’m sure it is after careful consideration and due diligence.
Sam, I guess we will have to disagree on that one…
No wonder people criticize the media when their reading comprehension is so poor that they cannot get the gist of a story.
“Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest…” -Paul Simon, “The Boxer”
mxyzptlk Posted October 17, 2008 at 8:35 am |
“Great to hear that Christian hate this morning. Your Pastor nust[sic] be proud of you. Oops, that’s right. You hide your blogging from your minister because you know it’s wrong to hate.”
You are wrong again…there is nothing wrong with hate for what is putrid and debased.
I think the shoe fits, so wear it.
More about ‘Joe the not licensed plumber’ issue,
‘McCain May Stumble With Focus on `Joe the Plumber’
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aJgQMVekT3Jg&refer=home
“The company McCain said the plumber wants to buy has annual sales of $510,000, according to an analysis by Dun & Bradstreet. That makes it unlikely that Wurzelbacher’s purchase would give him a taxable income of more than $200,000 — leaving him unaffected by Obama’s proposal to roll back tax breaks for those earning more than $250,000, said Steven Bankler, a certified public accountant in San Antonio, who counts plumbers and other trade professionals as his clients.
Few Businesses Affected
Few such small businesses have enough income to be affected by Obama’s tax changes, Bankler said.
One other problem in making Wurzelbacher a symbol of the overtaxed: he would pay just $773 more in taxes under Obama’s plan than McCain’s if he did earn an adjusted gross income of $280,000, according to an analysis by the Tax Foundation, a Washington research group that is critical of high taxes.
Earning that much would make Wurzelbacher very unusual among small businesses. According to the Internal Revenue Service, most small businesses organize in ways that allow their owners to pay taxes at personal rates rather than as corporations, which impose a second layer of taxes. Almost 95 percent of 21.5 million owners of small businesses who file as sole proprietors had receipts under $100,000 in 2007.
Another 4 million businesses organize as so-called subchapter S corporations, according to IRS data; less than 5 percent of them earn more than $200,000.”
“Boxlock
…You are wrong again…there is nothing wrong with hate for what is putrid and debased…”
Huh, don’t remember reading that in the Bible. Perhaps you got it from a different book?
Yeah the Book of Boxlock the antiChristian.
A man can’t be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
–Oscar Wilde
cosmos_originally posted October 17, 2008 at 12:01 am
Regular posted October 16, 2008 at 11:43 pm
What a D.A.
Doesn’t know the difference between a personal attack and an attack on an ideology.
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Regular is an expert on “personal attacks”.
Regular falsely claimed: “The truth hurts when told, the Sierra Club screwed the Levees in New Orleans.”
Here are some examples of Regular’s proof(sic) of that false claim, and his “civil discussion”.
“cosmos gasbagging his way to more one liners of attack. It’s not a wonder that cosmos large intestines are the size of fire hose and just as deadly with the expulsion of stinky fumes.”
“I have no idea why cosmos has such a ‘hard on’ for the Sierra Club. Maybe he’s a local president of them, I don’t know. But he’s definetely in butt lust with them.”
“Yet more of cosmos denials and lies and his incessant lustful butt thrusting about the Sierra Club.
Once again, cosmos changes his story to suit the occasion. An incessant liar and toe licker for the Sierra Club.”
“I wonder if cosmos attentions to the Sierra Club involve courtship or is it just a straight illicit affair?”
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Regular posted October 17, 2008 at 12:22 am
blah blah blah cosmos.
You must be a real gem to live with. One of the biggest causes of divorce is when couples keep bringing things up over and over to use as a verbal assault on others.
It’s also one of the main reasons countries go to war.
But do carry on cosmos, show everyone the content of your character, however small it is.
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Regular,
I’m not your spouse, and I’m not causing a country to go to war.
I simply pointed out that you’re one of the top liars and vile personal insulters on the WE Blog.
And if you don’t like that fact, you have no one to blame except yourself
Try to remember one of the “character” principles of mature humans — personal responsibility.
cosmos_originally
Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink
More about ‘Joe the not licensed plumber’ issue,
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Biden was on the tonight show last night.
He adds “Joe the Plumber” to the list of people more qualified than he to be VP.
#
cosmos_originally
Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:25 am | Permalink
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Regular,
I’m not your spouse, and I’m not causing a country to go to war.
I simply pointed out that you’re one of the top liars and vile personal insulters on the WE Blog.
And if you don’t like that fact, you have no one to blame except yourself
Try to remember one of the “character” principles of mature humans — personal responsibility.
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To point out things you don’t like is fine.
To keep posting the same posts over and over, ad infinitum indicates a mental problem.
Seek help cosmos, you’re a classic obsessive compulsive psychopath.
G.O.P. Donor Is Accused of Overcharging Pentagon
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Published: October 16, 2008
The Democratic chairman of a House investigative committee presented documents to the Pentagon on Thursday charging that a top Republican fund-raiser, Harry Sargeant III, made tens of millions of dollars in profits over the last four years because his contracting company vastly overcharged for deliveries of fuel to American air bases in Iraq.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/17/world/middleeast/17fuel.html?ref=politics
Regular,
Do try to remember one of the “character” principles of mature humans — personal responsibility.
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:34 am | Permalink
Regular,
Do try to remember one of the “character” principles of mature humans — personal responsibility.
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cosmos,
Do try and remember that re-posting old posts only serves to stir up trouble, which is exactly what you’re trying to do.
You are the one at fault here.
So STFU (Chas’s interpretation)
do you kids need a timeout?
Joe the Plumber once lived for four years in Alaska.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/54327.html
Regular posted October 17, 2008 at 10:35 am
cosmos,
Do try and remember that re-posting old posts only serves to stir up trouble, which is exactly what you’re trying to do.
You are the one at fault here.
So STFU (Chas’s interpretation)
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Regular,
If you don’t like your reputation here on the WE BLog, you should not have created it.
Remember. . . personal responsibility.
When Obama gets into office in January and ends the war in Iraq, improves the economy, and makes millions of Americans eligible for low cost health care, what are the chronically stupid CONs going to say to demean and belittle him?
He takes a shower without his flag pin on!
CapnAmerica
Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:53 am | Permalink
When Obama gets into office in January and ends the war in Iraq, improves the economy, and makes millions of Americans eligible for low cost health care
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Sorry to bust your bubble but it aint going to happen no matter who wins.
And you are quite naive if you think it will
Cosmos–
If throwing a stick so that Regular’ll pick it up and retrive it amuses you . . . then by all means, amuse yourself.
But don’t expect him to change, any more than you’d expect a dog to quit acting like a dog.
So, if it does happen, Freebird, you’ll give our new president the credit?
Great.
Thanks.
Wont have to give any one credit because it won’t happen.
Okay?
Thanks
Welcome back Capn, good to “read” you.
MonkeyHawk predicted (accurately in my opinion) that a millisecond after President Obama takes the oath of office he will be blamed for the unending war in Iraq, the economical condition of our country… I’ve forgotten how much, but suffice it to say everything that is currently wrong will be Obama’s fault!
I think he is up to the task! His intelligence, his temperament, his abilities will move even recalcitrant Republican along to better!
Capn,
I don’t expect Regular to change. . . I was just pointing out some facts.
No matter who wins the people on both sides on this blog are going to be in for a rude awakening
CapnAmerica
Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink
So, if it does happen, Freebird, you’ll give our new president the credit?
—————————————————-Sure I’ll give him credit if you mean his moving us closer to socialism
When Obama gets into office in January and ends the war in Iraq, improves the economy, and makes millions of Americans eligible for low cost health care,
LMFAO !!!! Step awaaaaaay from the koolaid.
ends the war in Iraq
No stated plan that he has stuck to to do this.
improves the economy
Taxing a down trending economy. See Michigan.
millions of Americans eligible for low cost health care
Economic suicide. No way possible for this to be paid for for at leaset 10 years.
Damn you’re dumb.
That’s odd about ‘Joe the not licensed plumber(sic)’ also living in Alaska and Arizona.
Another interesting point, and a funny from Bill Maher.
‘Story of Joe the Plumber springs many leaks
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/17/MNQ013J6JV.DTL
“He’s not really a plumber – at least, not a licensed one.
He’s concerned about increased taxes – but hasn’t paid his own income taxes.
And he’s not exactly just a guy from Ohio.
He’s lived in Arizona … and Alaska.
And as for that unscripted moment that ended up on Fox News, the one at a rally where he questioned Sen. Barack Obama about the American Dream – and whether he’d have to pay higher taxes under Obama’s plan?
Seems Joe, who is actually Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, told the conservative Web site familysecuritymatters.org that catching the Democratic presidential candidate off guard “was actually my intent.”
…
And as comic Bill Maher pointed out, in his 15 minutes of fame, Wurzelbacher has already done more interviews than Palin. “
“And as comic Bill Maher pointed out, in his 15 minutes of fame, Wurzelbacher has already done more interviews than Palin.”
Now that is funny!!
(and true. Sad, but true)
I was reading where New York’s Bloomberg is concerned about the economy having a negative effect on tourism.
We Kansans need to count our blessings! We won’t have to worry about that!
And as for that unscripted moment that ended up on Fox News, the one at a rally where he questioned Sen. Barack Obama about the American Dream – and whether he’d have to pay higher taxes under Obama’s plan?
Seems Joe, who is actually Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, told the conservative Web site familysecuritymatters.org that catching the Democratic presidential candidate off guard “was actually my intent
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If YOUR candidate is so all powerful,how could he ever be caught off guard?
If YOUR candidate is so all powerful,how could he ever be caught off guard? — Freebird1971
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He wasn’t Freebird. He spent time answering the question asked and treated Mr. Wurzelbacher with great respect while doing it. Senator Obama showed that all questions and all citizens are important!
NC Early Voting Statistics
After one day of early voting and several weeks of collecting absentee ballots (still coming in) here are the demographic break-downs of who has voted.
Total Voters as of 10/17/2008
173,735
Percent African-American Voters:
25.8% (vs. 21% of registered voters)
Percent Democrats:
52.0% (vs. 45.5% of registered voters)
Percent Republican:
32.3% (vs. 32.2% of registered voters)
Percent Unaffiliated:
15.6% (vs. 22.2% of registered voters)
http://www.openleft.com/viewQuickHits.do#4996
“We Kansans need to count our blessings! We won’t have to worry about that!”
But we have the world’s largest ball of twine! Why would we not get tourists from all over the world for that? heh
his moving us closer to socialism
Closer? Government owned businesses and banks. Government owning and making mortgages? Where is there anything Capitalist?
They above is directly due to congress. What Obama offers is crushing taxation for the ones providing jobs. Redistribution of wealth by handing money (earned by others) to the low income earners. Some bastardized version of government sponsored health care that we can’t afford.
Total and utter devastation. The Union of Socialist America. Be proud of the USA…
It’s okay, Freebird.
The Democratic plan under Obama will benefit even the chronically stupid people that oppose him.
Just like they were under Clinton as opposed to
Worst.
President.
Ever.
Hey Capn-
How is your father?
Hi, Linda!
But we have the world’s largest ball of twine! Why would we not get tourists from all over the world for that?
Could it be tied to lack of public transportation? I know it isn’t due to lack of interest! Don’t you think it’s close to the top of most bucket lists!?
LJ–
I think you’re confusing me with WSClark.
Mxyzptlk,
So if we get you to say your name backwards will you leave for 90 days?
Capn-
Oh sorry. You are right. My apologies to both.
Freebird1971 posted October 17, 2008 at 11:15 am
If YOUR candidate is so all powerful,how could he ever be caught off guard?
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Do you think that Obama appeared to be caught off guard?
And it looks like ‘Joe the unlicensed plumber(sic)’, with unpaid state taxes, was the one caught “off guard”.
“Don’t you think it’s close to the top of most bucket lists!?”
It absolutely has to be! How could anyone contemplate going thru their last days without seeing that fine exhibit?
Sol,
How bout him(should that be capitalized?) moving us the rest of the way to complete socialism?
Capn,
Are you a socialist?
Capn,
Are you a socialist?
LMFAO !!!!!
That is going to keep your ‘Newbie’ status going for at least another month.
Obama Extending Lead??????
McCain
Obama
Spread
10/17/2008
46%
50%
Obama +4
10/16/2008
46%
50%
Obama +4
10/15/2008
45%
50%
Obama +5
10/14/2008
45%
50%
Obama +5
10/13/2008
45%
50%
Obama +5
10/12/2008
45%
51%
Obama +6
10/11/2008
45%
52%
Obama +7
10/10/2008
45%
50%
Obama +5
10/09/2008
45%
50%
Obama +5
10/08/2008
45%
51%
Obama +6
10/07/2008
44%
52%
Obama +8
10/06/2008
44%
52%
Obama +8
10/05/2008
44%
51%
Obama +7
10/04/2008
45%
51%
Obama +6
10/03/2008
44%
51%
Obama +7
10/02/2008
44%
51%
Obama +7
10/01/2008
45%
51%
Obama +6
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history
rest of the way to complete socialism?
With a super majority in congress? Utter and complete devastation. U-S-of-A. Know you know what it will stand for.
OBAMA EXTENDING LEAD????????????????????????????
GALLUP
OBAMA 49
MCCAIN 47
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111124/Gallup-Daily-Likely-Voters-Traditional.aspx
Solar activity the primary driver of global temperature rise
Published: 17 Oct 08 – 0:00
The period of global warming that we have experienced on our planet over the last century, which has seen a rise in temperature of some 0,6 oC, does not correlate at all with a rise in the concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2), but is does correlate with solar activity. Indications are that solar activity is the primary driver of the variation in global temperature.
Even more compelling is the fact that there exists a well-documented Roman Warm period from the time of the Roman Caesars, and a Medieval Warm Period, both of which correlate with solar activity, but certainly can have nothing whatever to do with CO2 produced by any human industrial activities.
Further, earlier global warming periods were always accompanied by great human prosperity, and not by gloom and doom, as today’s global warming adherents are forever saying. In fact, it was periods of global cooling that were bad for the world’s population and for the environment as a whole.
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article.php?a_id=144610
Thanks Linda for posting separately the number of BLACK voters.
Guess we know those are Obama votes.
Isn’t that your implication?
Gosh Sol,
Global Warming is caused by…
The Sun?
Go figure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
MaxGrobnik,
The election is based on the electoral votes.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Gosh, 1/3 of newly registered voters had Drivers License and Social Security records different then what was on the Voter Registration form!!!!!
Supreme Court rules that it’s AOK for Government to have F-UP records.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/17/ohio-secretary-state-files-extension-compliance-circuit-court-voter-fraud/
The decision by the full court repudiates the lower court’s ruling siding with the Ohio Republican Party and ordering Brunner to verify records of about 200,000 of 666,000 new voters this year whose driver’s license and Social Security records don’t match information in other government databases.
No Cosmos,
The election is based on Acorn and Voter Fraud.
(Mickey Mouse is never called by Gallup or other pollsters)
Max–
Hell yes the black votes are going to correlate strongly with Obama votes.
Duh.
They figure that a black President won’t pursue the racist policies of a Reagan or a Bush.
Max–
If ACORN is so good at “voter fraud,” why did the Democrats lose the last two elections.
Doesn’t it make a lot more sense that the party that won would have been more likely to have engaged in fraud?
Why . . . yes, yes it does . . .
Freebird–
I believe that government policies of the 30’s-70’s helped create a society in which wealth distribution was much more equal than it was before or after, and that this created a better society than we have had before or after.
If that makes me a “socialist” in your eyes, then so be it.
I consider myself a pragmatist. If “trickle down” economics work, then let’s do it.
They don’t work and haven’t worked.
So let’s stop doing what has proven to have failed and try something that might work better.
That’s what I think.
Islamic Justice may not be so bad:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439624,00.html
Dad Takes Son to Court for Laziness, Gets Him Sentenced to Prison
Friday, October 17, 2008
A Nigerian father has taken his “lazy” 20-year-old son to an Islamic court for refusing to participate in productive activities, asking that he be imprisoned, the state news agency NAN said Friday, Reuters reported.
“He is not listening to words and he is bringing shame to my family,” Sama’ila Tahir, a market trader, told NAN. “I am tired of his nefarious deeds. Please put this boy in prison so that I can be free.”
Tahir claims his son dropped out of school and is in a gang, Reuters reported.
Siding with Tahir, the court sentenced the young man to six months in prison and 30 strokes of the cane for being disobedient.
MaxGrobnik
Posted October 17, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink
No Cosmos,
The election is based on Diebold and Voter Fraud.
Remember FL in 2000? OH in 2004?
HERE is a Great Lesson in what National Healthcare will do for all of America!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439607,00.html
Hawaii Ending Universal Child Health Care After 7 Mos.
Friday, October 17, 2008
HONOLULU — Hawaii is dropping the only state universal child health care program in the country just seven months after it launched.
Gov. Linda Lingle’s administration cited budget shortfalls and other available health care options for eliminating funding for the program. A state official said families were dropping private coverage so their children would be eligible for the subsidized plan.
CapnAmerica,
There you go again. Not using logic.
ACORN could be so good at fraud that the last two elections were closer than they should have been.
No it doesn’t make sense that only the party which wins would be more likely to have engaged in voter fraud.
Makes no logical sense at all.
Spread the Wealth!
“crushing taxation?” An additional 3% on the tip of the income over 195,000 is crushing?
Rather overdramatic language, mehinks. $900 bucks ain’t gonna break many businesses.
“In 2007, the 33 percent bracket applied to taxable income exceeding $195,851.
“Under Obama’s proposal, Wurzelbacher would face about $900 more in taxes if he netted $280,000 of income from his new business and had to pay an extra 3 percentage points on the amount over $195,851, said Gerald Prante, a senior economist at the Tax Foundation, a Washington research group that is examining both candidates’ plans.
“His average tax burden, the final bill he pays to the IRS isn’t going to go up much if he’s just making $280,000 a year,” Prante said. ”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aC4j3T5.s_eQ&refer=home
Doesn’t it make a lot more sense that the party that won would have been more likely to have engaged in fraud?
Particularly when the party that won, is in the minority.
MaxGrobnik posted October 17, 2008 at 12:02 pm
No Cosmos,
The election is based on Acorn and Voter Fraud.
(Mickey Mouse is never called by Gallup or other pollsters)
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You’re claiming that the ‘Mickey Mouse’ applications were approved, and they will vote in this election?
Link please.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/17/ohio-secretary-state-files-extension-compliance-circuit-court-voter-fraud/
The Supreme Court ruled against the Republicans attempt at supressing the votes in Ohio.
Damned activist conservative judges.
You know of course, that President Obama will issue a Mass Pardon for anyone working for or with Acorn who committed voter fraud.
Thanks for mentioning logic, Nathan.
Because what’s not logical is thinking that a bunch of fake registrations could throw an election.
I have personally registered about two dozen people to vote for the upcoming election, and I plan to reg more this weekend. About 1/3rd of those regs were Republican BTW.
I can tell you from personal experience that the logistics just don’t add up. You’d have to have hundreds of fake names attached to real addresses. Then, one real voter would have to go to dozens of different polling places in a single day to vote repeatedly.
It’s so inefficient that it’s practically impossible.
What is much more do-able is what the RepubliCONs have been rightly accused of: election fraud.
If you have access to the DIEBOLD machine software for instance, you can just rig the vote totals. A single individual with the right access could throw an entire state’s election, and there’s a lot of evidence to show that this is exactly what has happened.
The fact that neither Bush’s win in 2000 or Kerry’s in 2004 matched exit polls is a serious red flag that has never been explained.
Prove to me that controls are in place to prevent Mickey Mouse from voting.
Link please.
Nathaniel,
You never answered my post,
cosmos_originally posted October 15, 2008 at 2:49 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1015/#comment-447877
Nathaniel posted October 15, 2008 at 2:19 pm
“The simple truth is that I never said that the difference between the electoral college and polular vote is a semantic nor was that ever what I meant to say either.”
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Okay, then tell us exactly what you “meant to say” when you used “semantic”.
Otherwise, my “assumption” seems to be accurate.
As part of my business, I have to prove that controls are in place to ensure compliance with Federal, State, and Regulatory Agency rules & laws.
Why is the OPPOSITE true for Government?
The PEOPLE have to prove that Government is AFU, but the Government doesn’t have to prove that IT has controls in place to ensure compliance with its own laws?
MaxGrobnik posted October 17, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Prove to me that controls are in place to prevent Mickey Mouse from voting.
Link please.
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The links are in previous threads. Go find them yourself.
Oh, and when National Healthcare is implemented, My Company will drop private coverage As Soon As Possible.
Let The People get their Free Crap from Government.
Every story in the news about ACORN is about finding voter registration applications that were denied, never made it to the voter rolls. Isn’t that something we should all be celebrating!? They were caught! Their applications denied, they don’t get to vote!
Say Cosmos,
You see that rope hanging from the sky?
Piss up it.
Yeah, Linda.
I’m sure they caught em all.
Course 1/3 of the newly registered voters in Ohio have Voter records not matching Social Security or Drivers License records.
But who cares?
They are all voting for Obama.
MaxGrobnik
Posted October 17, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink
You know of course, that President Obama will issue a Mass Pardon for anyone working for or with Acorn who committed voter fraud.
Link please
Exactly right, Cosmos.
Unlike Max, I will answer questions put to me.
Mickey Mouse cannot vote because
1. a poll worker would know that it is a fake name
2. a poll worker can ask for ID if the voter is suspected of engaging in fraud
3. the penalties for voting twice or more are very severe for the ridiculously small benefit such fraud would produce. One couple in KS who knowingly voted by absentee ballot and then voted again at the polls got 10 years in prison and a massive fine if memory serves.
4. even someone or many thousands of people who engage in voter fraud could not turn the results of a national election, just as we saw in 2000 and 2004 when ACORN was supposedly trying to throw elections then too . . .
******
The problem is not poor people voting twice. The problem is that they don’t even vote once, allowing the rich and their willing idiots to control both the political as well as the economic sphere of influence in America.
CapnAmerica,
When we are talking about battle ground states like Ohio where 20,000 votes could be the difference it does matter.
When you are illegally registering people from out of state who can quite easily vote in Indiana for their election and then drive over to Ohio and vote in that election it can very easily throw an election.
You are right, it would be rather absurd to think that ACORN could rig an election in a place like Kansas.
However, in states where the vote totals are so close like Florida and Ohio it is not so absurd.
Max–
I don’t know about Ohio, but if names on registrations didn’t match their DL number or their SS number, they wouldn’t be registered.
So what’s your point?
That the system works to keep fradulent voters off the rolls?
McCain/Palin will lose on their own merits, there is no outside force required! I have faith in their abilities, don’t you?
Just remember the Mantra. Democrat good, Republican bad. Poor good, rich bad. Democrats honest, Republicans not honest. Vote accordingly.
Oh, lord, the irony!
Nathan pointing to Ohio and Florida as examples of how “voter fraud” might have made a difference–while ignoring the massive election fraud like throwing tens of thousands of eligible voters (Democrats) off the rolls right before the elections.
What can cause such uncomprehending ignorance?
Oh, yeah, and that 8 to 12 hour wait to vote in poor and minority districts in Ohio made no difference in the outcome of the election.
It’s voter fraud that’s the threat to democracy.
Riiight.
Nathaniel,
You knew what you meant to say, so it should only take a few seconds to reply.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1017/#comment-449556
Freebird1971
Posted October 17, 2008 at 11:39 am | Permalink
Capn,
Are you a socialist?
******
Freebird–
Are you a fascist?
MaxGrobnik posted October 17, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Say Cosmos,
You see that rope hanging from the sky?
Piss up it.
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I don’t see that rope.
I just see MaxGrobnik, who can’t defend his opinions.
LJ accuses the left of believing that “rich, bad–poor, good.”
Actually, no less a leftist than Saul Alinsky warned of romanticizing the poor. The poor are no better or worse than any other socioeconomic group.
The rich, however, holding much more power in society, are in position to inflict their “badness” in a much more hurtful way on society.
Who hurt society more? Ken Lay of Enron or a neighborhood ghetto mugger?
Enron destroyed billions of dollars in tens of thousands of people’s retirement funds. When the rich and powerful are “bad,” they have much graver effects on society.
That’s why a pragmatist like myself tires of hearing the right-wing constantly scapegoating the poor for society’s ills . . .
“I just see MaxGrobnik, who can’t defend his opinions.”
No kidding, Cosmos!
Looks like our work here kicking right-wing ass is done for the day . . .
And I tire of hearing all of societies ills blamed on the EEEEVIL rich.
Being poor or rich is no mark of distinction, nor mark of badness, in my book. Character is what counts. I don;t have any more sympthathy for Ken Lay than I do the neighborhood mugger. One terrorizes a neighborhood, the other a much larger arena. BOth a pieces of crap in my estimation.
There are poor people who will gladly live off the wages of others, as there are rich people as well.
Ironic, eh?
‘Purging Joe the plumber?‘
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Purging_Joe_the_plumber.html
“Would Joe be thrown off the rolls if he registered in Ohio today?
The Toledo Blade reported today that “Joe the Plumber’s” name appears on Ohio voter registration rolls with a slight misspelling — as Worzelbacher, not Wurzelbacher.
And that sort of data-entry error might be enough — were Joe a new registrant — to have him disqualified from voting in Ohio, Florida, or Wisconsin this year, depending on the outcome of ongoing litigation.”
More at link.
http://www.stealbackyourvote.org/
Dowload the comic book “Steal Back Your Vote” by investigative reporter Greg Palast and Bobby Kennedy, Jr. at the above website.
Taking money from one to give the other, by force, either direction, is stealing. No matter if it is by the point of a gun, by the point of hiding information from shareholders or falsifying the same, or in taxation. Only difference, taxation is legal.
So if the SS data bank sez “Joan M. Doe”, and the election official types in “Joan N. Doe”, no match.
This is why some offices are alerting voters to discrepancies before November.
These kinds of database matches are not a slam dunk. SS admin calls it a “last resort.”
I can’t believe that after the last several election fiascos, we are still doubting we know how to have a fair and clean election.
I know, let’s ink the fingers of voters!
More and more we are acting like we are a 3rd rate, underdeveloped country still struggling with the basics.
We are better that.
“I don’t have any more sympthathy for Ken Lay than I do the neighborhood mugger.”
Gee, that’s very caucasian of you, LJ.
But the point is that RepubliCON gov’t encourages, it aides and abetts Ken Lay crimes while scapegoating the non-existent welfare-queens and ACORN workers for all of society’s ills.
Another Joe the Plumber story from the NYP. Sure hope Obama & the libs screw up. The news media will try to discredit anybody who is not stupid like they arehttp://www.nypost.com/seven/10172008/postopinion/editorials/the_plumbers_crime_134038.htm.
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CapnAmerica
Posted October 17, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink
Freebird1971
Posted October 17, 2008 at 11:39 am | Permalink
Capn,
Are you a socialist?
******
Freebird–
Are you a fascist?
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I’m an ANTI-ist, if that helps Capn’A.
News media can’t help but smear somebody who does not think like they do. Here’s Joe again.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10172008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/smears_from_a_sewer_133980.htm
“Taking money from one to give the other, by force, either direction, is stealing.”
Yeah, that’s very simplistic, LJ.
You work as a volunteer fire-fighter, right?
So, when the county taxes me to put out somebody else’s house’s fire, that’s stealing, right?
Taxes are the necessary dues of living in a civilized society.
If that means that I have to allow “stealing” by gov’t to keep some other person’s kid from starving in the street or dying from a simple, treatable disease, then I will support that “theft.”
george,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post#Criticism“The New York Post has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch’s ownership for what many consider its lurid headlines, sensationalism, blatant advocacy and conservative bias.”
Ok here’s one. Obama’s Campaign Treasurer(Martin Nesbitt) has tax liens against him. Where’s the News Media on this one? Any comment dems and libs?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/17/guess-who-else-has-tax-liens/
Joe the Plumber for McCain’s Secretary of State?
Joe Camel for Surgeon General?
Joe Blow in charge of new Department of Wind Energy?
Joe the Plumber for sending Obama back to the senate!
CraponAmerica- If that means that I have to allow “stealing” by gov’t to keep some other person’s kid from starving in the street or dying from a simple, treatable disease, then I will support that “theft.”
———————————————–
Why allow government to “steal” why don’t YOU give to your local charities?
It is NOT the role of government to guarantee or provide you with a roof over your head, a doctor and three squares.
In a “civilized society”, all of those things are attainable and the dues are hard work and personal responsibility.
Federal governments responsibility is the safety of its people and to regulate commerce.
“Spreading the wealth around”
uh er did I just say that out loud? oh crap.
michelle, where’s my kools…..
“Yeah, that’s very simplistic, LJ.”
Yeah, that is correct. It is very simplistic. Taking someone’s money against their will is simplistic. Taxes are indeed a necessary measure for the proper function of society. So, when ALL contribute to the tax based goodie pie, maybe we can talk. Fact is, a good portion of the population don;t pay income taxes. Something like 40%, Fact is, many of the countries that have the programs you espouse, including free healthcare” don;t allow 40% of the population to not pay any income taxes.
Fact is, some of them even have less corporate tax than what is levied in the US. Notice I said “some”
Fact is, I have to take a drug test to keep my job, and many of those recipients of tax monies, don;t
Fact is, it takes me personally more to replace the damn clothes I destroy reponding as a volunteer firefighter than it does in taxes to support the fire department.
“Yeah, that’s very simplistic, LJ.”
Yeah, that is correct. It is very simplistic. Taking someone’s money against their will is simplistic. Taxes are indeed a necessary measure for the proper function of society. So, when ALL contribute to the tax based goodie pie, maybe we can talk. Fact is, a good portion of the population don;t pay income taxes. Something like 40%, Fact is, many of the countries that have the programs you espouse, including free healthcare” don;t allow 40% of the population to not pay any income taxes.
Fact is, some of them even have less corporate tax than what is levied in the US. Notice I said “some”
Fact is, I have to take a drug test to keep my job, and many of those recipients of tax monies, don;t
Fact is, it takes me personally more to replace the damn clothes I destroy reponding as a volunteer firefighter than it does in taxes to support the fire department.
Obama wants to rais taxes on everyone making over $250,000. His charitable giving during 2000 to 2004 time frame making around the same? Less than 1%. yah, he really cares. BS. He found the pony to ride in on
“If that means that I have to allow “stealing” by gov’t to keep some other person’s kid from starving in the street”
Feed him yourself. I have.
Capt: On Tuesday of this week, a national election involving 5 times zones and 62,000+ polls was held where the pre-registered electorate had to show government issued photo ID (drivers lic. or passport etc.)along with another document proving ones address such as a credit card/utilites bill. If you were not registered you had 5 weeks of governmental prompting (length of the campaign) to get registered and voters are not registered/listed by any party affiliation. No one candidate could spend more than 70 cents per voter to up to a maximum of $60,000, which is what their Prime Minister spent to get elected in his area, inclusive of his party spending $18 million nationally to contest 308 seats. Voters did not use electronics, pulleys, punched or templates but marked an “X” wiht a pencil on a paper ballot. They had complete national results two hrs. after the polls closed on the Pacific coast. Diebold has a lot of missionary work to do. Damn, backward socialists…..all!
CapnAmerica
Posted October 17, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink
Freebird1971
Posted October 17, 2008 at 11:39 am | Permalink
Capn,
Are you a socialist?
******
Freebird–
Are you a fascist?
————————————————–No,I’m an American who is damn sick and tired of seeing some of the fruits of my labor going to provide for those who think it is there right and privlege to have the government support them.
Now, Are you a socialist?
“Spread the wealth around” was used in the context of letting middle class citizen keep more of their money so they could afford ‘to hire Joe the Plumber’.
You know that if you saw the video or read the text.
Senator Obama was explaining his tax cutting plan for the working people who have been hit hardest in the past eight years.
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court today threw out a lawsuit brought by the Ohio Republican Party that could have made it easier to challenge tens of thousands of newly registered voters.
The high court, in a brief opinion, said the federal law that called for computer checks of new voters did not authorize private lawsuits to enforce it.
The ruling is a victory for Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat. She said she feared “chaos” on election day if the GOP were permitted last-minute challenges to new voters based on data on file with the state Department of Motor Vehicles.
Ohio, always a closely contested state, has seen more than 600,000 new registered voters this year. Brunner said she feared that as many as 200,000 of them could be challenged and forced to file provisional ballots if there were a mismatch between the information on their voter registration cards and the data on file with the DMV.
One example came to light this week. Joseph Wurzelbacher, or “Joe the Plumber,” became a celebrated figure in the third debate between John McCain and Barack Obama. But several Ohio newspapers said his name is misspelled as “Worzelbacher” in the state’s records. That mismatch could have led to his being challenged at the polls if he had been a newly registered voter.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-scotus18-2008oct18,0,3579254.story
“One example came to light this week. Joseph “Wurzelbacher, or “Joe the Plumber,” became a celebrated figure in the third debate between John McCain and Barack Obama. But several Ohio newspapers said his name is misspelled as “Worzelbacher” in the state’s records. That mismatch could have led to his being challenged at the polls if he had been a newly registered voter.”
As it should have been. Wow. Do you think he could checked to make sure his data was correct?
Naaaw. Too hard.
Another Republican for Jim Slattery
From today’s In Box:
Dear Colleagues,
I have considered myself a moderate Republican for a long time, but I have always felt it was more important to vote for the person rather than the party. I will be voting for Jim Slattery for U.S. Senate.
When I was on the Wichita board of education, I had the opportunity to go to Washington, D.C. several times with the National School Board Association. After discussions about current education legislation, all school board members would go talk to their own state’s delegation. The school board association rated congressmen and senators on their voting records when it came to education issues
The local school board members from Kansas had an easy time back then. Senator Nancy Kassebaum had a 100% voting record. Senator Bob Dole said to us that he always voted with Nancy on education bills. Congressman Dan Glickman from Wichita had a 100% voting record. Congressman Jim Slattery from Topeka also had a perfect voting record for schools. He welcomed all the school board members from around the state into his office. He was interested in our views and spent time discussing issues with us.
Congressman Pat Roberts wouldn’t visit with us unless we were from his district and his voting record for education was terrible. Then Mr. Roberts became a senator and his record isn’t better.
Jim Slattery spent an entire day with Rev. Tyrone Gordon and me visiting Wichita schools. We had invited him to witness the terrific things happening in our schools and also to see the needs that still exist. He spent a great deal of time visiting with students, answering their questions and asking them some. I was so impressed that he would spend time with kids in our school district. He understood our concerns and our pride in this district.
Education has been placed on the back burner in this election. I know I am biased, but I can’t think of anything more important during a time of economic crisis. Because Jim Slattery has a proven record of voting for education and because I have seen his rapport with students, I will cast my vote for him to be our next U.S. Senator.
Sincerely,
Carol Rupe
Kansas State Board of Education
DavidB- Senator Obama was explaining his tax cutting plan.
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there is an oxymoron for ya.
an example of voter fraud?
“Earlier this year in the New Hampshire primary, Hillary Clinton was pronounced dead in her battle against Barack Obama. Only 24 hours before that vote, 12 major polls predicted that she would lose by a substantial margin—on average more than 10 percentage points. Yet when the votes were counted in New Hampshire, Clinton was the victor. ”
Wow. The polls were………WRONG! Must have been voter fraud, huh.
My name has been misspelled when I went to vote, even though the registration was correct and the registration card was correct.
It’s a nuisance, but you just fill out an affidavit at the time of voting to remedy the situation.
Much ado about nothing…
Well Joe, since YOU took all the risk, and YOU took all the responsibility, and YOU worked extra long hours to make more than 250k, WE are going to take $900 MORE of YOUR money to give to the ones that take NO risk and take NO responsibility and work NO hours.
See, that’s a good thing Joe. Joe keep up the good work.
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Oh and Joe remember, VOTE FOR ME!! the SAVIOR!
iased1
Posted October 17, 2008 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
Well Joe, since YOU took all the risk, and YOU took all the responsibility, and YOU worked extra long hours to make more than 250k, WE are going to take $900 MORE of YOUR money to give to the ones that take NO risk and take NO responsibility and work NO hours.
See, that’s a good thing Joe. Joe keep up the good work.
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Oh and Joe remember, VOTE FOR ME!! the SAVIOR!
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Don’t forget that free healthcare
Oh BTW Joe, you embarrassed me sooooooo bad with your little comment there, the media is going to DESTROY YOU!
and you only THOUGHT you had tax problems before……..
littlejohn posted October 17, 2008 at 2:26 pm
an example of voter fraud?
“Earlier this year in the New Hampshire primary, Hillary Clinton was pronounced dead in her battle against Barack Obama. Only 24 hours before that vote, 12 major polls predicted that she would lose by a substantial margin—on average more than 10 percentage points. Yet when the votes were counted in New Hampshire, Clinton was the victor. ”
Wow. The polls were………WRONG! Must have been voter fraud, huh.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_2008
Eulogies were published on the Clinton campaign,[31] as Obama surged to a roughly 10-point lead in the New Hampshire polls.[32] However, the race turned quickly in the days before the primary, and the polls were slow to register a reversal toward Clinton.
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The morning before the primary, Clinton became “visibly emotional” in response to a friendly question from a voter.[35] Video of the moment was replayed on cable news television throughout the day, accompanied by pundit commentary that ranged from sympathetic to callous in tone. Voters rallied to Clinton’s defense, and she won a surprising three-percent victory over Obama in the popular vote. They tied in the delegate count.
Yea right plumbers (without licences)make a quarter of a mill a year….and if they are they work extra long hours. Right…
If you make under $250,000 your taxes will decrease under Senator Obama’s plan to aid struggling working families. The Obama tax cut is not an oxymoron. It is the plan.
That is why Joe the P is so illustrative of the insanity in the American body politic today. He asks a question, gets an answer, and seems to have not heard or not understood the answer.
Senator Obama is shown patiently explaining to a citizen how the new tax plan will help most small businessmen and women ( a claim backed up by numerous authorities), then the guy calls it “tap dancing” around the issue. A quote is yanked out of context and becomes the only thing you guys heard. This seems self-delusional to me.
Right on DavidB
‘McCain May Stumble With Focus on `Joe the Plumber>/b>’
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aJgQMVekT3Jg&refer=home
“The company McCain said the plumber wants to buy has annual sales of $510,000, according to an analysis by Dun & Bradstreet. That makes it unlikely that Wurzelbacher’s purchase would give him a taxable income of more than $200,000 — leaving him unaffected by Obama’s proposal to roll back tax breaks for those earning more than $250,000, said Steven Bankler, a certified public accountant in San Antonio, who counts plumbers and other trade professionals as his clients.
Few Businesses Affected
Few such small businesses have enough income to be affected by Obama’s tax changes, Bankler said.
One other problem in making Wurzelbacher a symbol of the overtaxed: he would pay just $773 more in taxes under Obama’s plan than McCain’s if he did earn an adjusted gross income of $280,000, according to an analysis by the Tax Foundation, a Washington research group that is critical of high taxes.
Earning that much would make Wurzelbacher very unusual among small businesses. According to the Internal Revenue Service, most small businesses organize in ways that allow their owners to pay taxes at personal rates rather than as corporations, which impose a second layer of taxes. Almost 95 percent of 21.5 million owners of small businesses who file as sole proprietors had receipts under $100,000 in 2007.
Another 4 million businesses organize as so-called subchapter S corporations, according to IRS data; less than 5 percent of them earn more than $200,000.”
Joe was a plant.
DavidB- The Obama tax cut is not an oxymoron. It is the plan.
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Democrap plan / tax cut – oxymoron.
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$250,000 your taxes will decrease.
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No what he said was over $250k was going to INCREASE to 39% and he was going to spread that wealth around. Basically killing Joe’s incentive to make MORE than $250,000.00. So you put off work to the following quarter, lay someone off, or just don’t bid for a while….
That is just the way it works.
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DavosRancheros
Posted October 17, 2008 at 2:50 pm | Permalink
Joe was a plant.
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Uh huh…here is your comfort blanket, lil’ guy.
Hey Hussein, as long as your “spreading the wealth around”, after you get through bailing out irresponsible lenders and irresponsible lendEEs….
buy me a boat.
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Hell, buy us ALL a boat.
DavosRancheros, where are the eggs and tortillas essay?
Bias-
If Joe stops growing just to not pay taxes, he already has a problem.
He would be the guy that would complain constantly about the pothole on his street that the city (government) haven’t fixed then, threaten to take his assault rifle to Washington because he wont pay anymore taxes. You say Democrats spend but you can’t take away what Clinton did during his term and what Bush as done to the Defiect during his.
Cosmos- Few Businesses Affected.
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Then why bother.
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I am white so please dont call me essay.
lil’guy eh? Nice. LOL
Not really sport.
biased1 posted October 17, 2008 at 2:52 pm
No what he said was over $250k was going to INCREASE to 39% and he was going to spread that wealth around. Basically killing Joe’s incentive to make MORE than $250,000.00. So you put off work to the following quarter, lay someone off, or just don’t bid for a while….
That is just the way it works.
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So a 3% increase from 36% to 39% will destroy Americas economy?
Joe says he will work if it’s 36%, but will stop working if it’s 39%?
A 3% increase will cause this?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/files/screamthe.jpg
biased1 posted October 17, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Cosmos- Few Businesses Affected.
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Then why bother.
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Because few businesses affected.
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DavosRancheros
Posted October 17, 2008 at 3:01 pm | Permalink
Anti-
I am white so please dont call me essay.
lil’guy eh? Nice. LOL
Not really sport.
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Weda.
The higher tax rate (3% more) only kicks in on the earnings over a certain amount – not the entire income.
So you think a businessman will say, ” No I won’t sell you any more widgets, because I will pay an extra 3% on that $100 sale.”?
Pish posh.
They spell it out at the Tax Foundation site, if you want to know how it really is. And a story here is helpful for those who want to know the truth.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aC4j3T5.s_eQ&refer=home
RaunchyDavid- If Joe stops growing just to not pay taxes, he already has a problem.
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Yes he does. It’s called “over taxed.”
When you work and depend on banks for finance, the bank wants to see your margin (profits) at a healthy point. Since taxes eat into your margins directly, Joe has choices to make. If I raise my margins to cover my tax increase, so the banks will continue to loan me money, can I still remain competitive.
Well, I think I’ll keep my volume down.
Nice name calling…what are you a child? LOL
Don’t forget to brush your teeth before bed tonight.
It’s only an additional 3 % on the amount over 195,000. the first 195,000 is taxed at the 36%, as I read it in the Bloomberg article.
So a 3% increase from 36% to 39% will destroy Americas economy?
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No, just dampen small business growth.
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So you think a businessman will say, ” No I won’t sell you any more widgets, because I will pay an extra 3% on that $100 sale.”?
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No, a BUSINESSMAN will say, I can get you those widgets next quarter, or I can get them for you now for 3% more.
I love the redneck lemmings here. LOL. Just think how mad you will be when this election is over! LOL!
But you will still have Fox news, so keep your head up!
The vast majority of small business people will only see positive effects if consumers have more cash to spend.
(Psst… Don’t poke the wingnuts, please. They will turn on you fast and then it gets rude liberals all fired up and it all goes to hell in a handbasket.)
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Freebird: What you describe as spreading your money around is due to welfare not social policies. There are very fiscally conservative, sound economies with pronounced social tendencies with low welfare rolls. Where welfare exists, it indicates an inadequate society. Case in point. Quebec has qualifed daycare is $7.00 per day. It IS subsidized, but it frees-up and very much encourage the working mom (or single mom to get a job and get off the walfare rolls),to contribute to the tax base and provide an early learning experience for the child. This is a common European practice as well. Quebec has the lowest crime rate in North America, and comparing same sized cities, Detroit has 400-600 murders a year, Montreal has 15-20. Social leanings should not be confused with welfare. “Socialism” is a denegrating slogan of the right, not a comment on reality.
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Posted October 17, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink
I love the redneck lemmings here. LOL. Just think how mad you will be when this election is over! LOL!
But you will still have Fox news, so keep your head up!
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OK Chas…
“No, a BUSINESSMAN will say, I can get you those widgets next quarter, or I can get them for you now for 3% more”
Sorry, while I agree with the principle, particularly with international companies, I doubt the above scenario. People are still going to do what they can. 39% is over taxation, but not the breakover point, in my opinion.
“The vast majority of small business people will only see positive effects if consumers have more cash to spend”
And that is a big if. Moe taxation does not necessarily equal more money for consumers.
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DavidB
Posted October 17, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink
The vast majority of small business people will only see positive effects if consumers have more cash to spend.
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Joe either cuts into his margins to cover the tax, or he raises the price for his goods and services.
Either way, the “consumer” has LESS money.
You cannot tax your way to economic growth.
Sorry, while I agree with the principle, particularly with international companies, I doubt the above scenario. People are still going to do what they can. 39% is over taxation, but not the breakover point, in my opinion.
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Probably not alot of “international companies” that are considered “small businesses.” (my opinion)
But having worked for a “small business” in the mechanical trade for 10 years, I can tell you FIRST hand that is how it works.
And taxes make EVERY growth decision, a tough decision to make.
sursum- Case in point. Quebec has qualifed daycare is $7.00 per day. It IS subsidized, but it frees-up and very much encourage the working mom (or single mom to get a job and get off the walfare rolls),to contribute to the tax base and provide an early learning experience for the child.
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Total destruction of a society.
Punishes the family that tries to raise their own kids………..
I understand taxes can harm growth, but there is a limit to what can be cut too. I suppose we keep borrowing then?
Obama will cut taxes for those under a quarter mil…not feeling a strong sympathy for the 3% for those over.
DavidB, Kudos to your attempt to explain why government for good of all might mean helping other people you don’t know. His response says it all:
“Feed him yourself. I have.”
Good for you, lj. Did he get something to eat when you were at work or out of town? Did you feed him twice? Three times? Or did you give him your flatulent lecture on the second day about how he thought “poor” and should tell his parents that he’s just “broke”?
What about the kid 15 miles away in the neighborhood you never visit? Do you always rely on the convenient appearance of good samaritans to make it happen?
You can’t be that naive.
I can tell you’re having a crummy day, so I’ll leave it at that.
I have known small and midsized businessmen most of my adult life. I have never heard them tell that they would shut down, til the next tax year, or quite selling till the next tax year, etc. Sorry, I don’t buy it.
There are many decisions to make, and many things to consider, including tax policy. However, not making more money because I will have to pay more taxes, has never been one that I know of.
Welfare is a policy of this country and as I’ve said before I’m sick and tired of my money subsidising others. No one did it for me,why should I do it for you?
Rage
Posted October 17, 2008 at 3:27 pm | Permalink
DavidB, Kudos to your attempt to explain why government for good of all might mean helping other people you don’t know. His response says it all:
“Feed him yourself. I have.”
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It sure does Rage and I’m in 100% agreement. It’s called personal responsibility. I’m responsible to me and my family and not to the rest of the country,but people of your ilk intend to make it my responsibilty. Is that what you call freedom?
Bush seems to have grown this economy into a ten trillion dollar deficit with tax cuts and war.
Maybe after eight years o Bushies, we have entered Bizarro World:
Jerry Seinfeld: “Yeah. Like Bizarro Superman. Superman’s exact opposite, who lives in the backwards Bizarro World. Up is down, down is up. He says “Hello” when he leaves, “Good bye” when he arrives.”
“Good for you, lj. Did he get something to eat when you were at work or out of town? Did you feed him twice? ”
Umm. I don;t know. I give fairly nice sums to the Kansas Food Bank, does that count? Umm, I give money to the Salvation Army, does that count? Umm, I give money to the Lords Diners, as well as having volunteered there, does that count?
“Or did you give him your flatulent lecture on the second day about how he thought “poor” and should tell his parents that he’s just “broke”?”
COnsider what you like, I don;t really care. And I don;t give advice when rendering “aid”. I only give it when they are in a position to recieve it,
generally, unless it is more direct. Like if it hurts to move that, don;t move it. If you don;t apply for a job, you can;t get one. and on.
Sorry, not having a crummy day at all. You must have mistaken me for someone else.
Obama wants to up the taxes on those making more than 250,000 per year, to help out those who don;t WHen making 250,000 per year in the years 200-2004, his voluntarily helping others amounted to less than 1% of his income. Yeah, he really leads the way. Just another bser that found his political pony to ride on. he doesn;t give a damn
Nobody has ever thrown me a life-preserver, but if I see someone floundering in the river, I’d throw a line out. FreeBird, you’d just wave goodbye? Or is it “hello” here in Bizarro World?
I’m outta here. You all have a great night, and a better weekend, regardless of your politics, your gender, your sexual preference, you race, creed or religion or lack thereof. Tell someone to have a good day, you might be surprised at the response you might get. Feeling blue, help someone else out, it might make you feel better. Night all!!
David,
Sorry my philosophy upsets you but then again what you think has really no effect on me. I will help people I feel need the help but I’m getting damned sick and tired of being told I am supposed to help everyone.
PROBE: OBAMA SUPPORTER STOLE MENTALLY-CHALLENGED MAN’S VOTE?
http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?s=9177991
“They told me to vote for Obama, I said no I wanted to vote for McCain,” said Jack Justice, a voter.”
“Jack Justice says the person helping him, selected Obama’s name. His sister says the family is often asked to sign a permission slips for trips, but for this they were never notified.”
“No permission slips, no nothing, he just came home and said he had gone,” said Nancy Justice, Jack’s sister.
They say the adult day rehab program where Jack Justice attends took him to vote, without the family’s permission. What’s worse is Justice says the person helping him wouldn’t cast the ballot for his choice for President.”
Democrat Scum!!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/16/AR2008101603436_pf.html
Barack Obama for President
Washington Post | Friday, Oct. 17, 2008
The nominating process this year produced two unusually talented and qualified presidential candidates. There are few public figures we have respected more over the years than Sen. John McCain. Yet it is without ambivalence that we endorse Sen. Barack Obama for president.
The choice is made easy in part by Mr. McCain’s disappointing campaign, above all his irresponsible selection of a running mate who is not ready to be president. It is made easy in larger part, though, because of our admiration for Mr. Obama and the impressive qualities he has shown during this long race. Yes, we have reservations and concerns, almost inevitably, given Mr. Obama’s relatively brief experience in national politics. But we also have enormous hopes.
Mr. Obama is a man of supple intelligence, with a nuanced grasp of complex issues and evident skill at conciliation and consensus-building. At home, we believe, he would respond to the economic crisis with a healthy respect for markets tempered by justified dismay over rising inequality and an understanding of the need for focused regulation. Abroad, the best evidence suggests that he would seek to maintain U.S. leadership and engagement, continue the fight against terrorists, and wage vigorous diplomacy on behalf of U.S. values and interests. Mr. Obama has the potential to become a great president. Given the enormous problems he would confront from his first day in office, and the damage wrought over the past eight years, we would settle for very good.
The first question, in fact, might be…..
Palin also made a point of mentioning that she loved to visit the “pro-America” areas of the country, of which North Carolina is one. No word on which states she views as unpatriotic.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/17/to_avoid_being_depressed_palin.html
Perhaps McCain/Palin would like to tell us what states exactly are not pro-America?
Whhooops…I suppose Alsaka is one since she and Toady Todd would like to secede from the Union.
“Jack Justice”
What a sweet name!
There’s so much right-wing-nut idiocy on this thread it’s mind boggling. I can’t tell anymore whether you people are just stupid and believe the stuff you spew or are merely partisan parrots who’ll say anything in a desperate effort to… hell, I don’t know what you’re trying to do.
Just this one thing for now. I’ll be back.
Now let’s assume “Joe the Plumber” really is a plumber and works fifty 40-hour weeks to earn his $250,000. That’s a rate of $1,250 an hour, but he might be one fine plumber.
But if he answers a weekend call and charges double- or time-and-a-half and happens to clear more than $250,000 a year, only the amount above that $250,000 would be taxed at the higher rate Barack Obama proposes.
Now Warren Buffett or Rush Limbaugh or Bill O’Reilly or Brett Favre or Derek Jeter or Julia Roberts ex-CEOs of failed Wall Street investment banks might get dinged a bit more than you or I. But I kinda think they can handle the burden.
And I’m sure they appreciate all the CONs on WE Blog fighting for them.
I feel so sorry for John. He shoulda stayed a maverick.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Republican-presidential-nominee-shaking-hands-Senator-Barack-Obama-presidential-debate/photo/081016/ids_photos_ts/r1772410910.jpg/;_ylt=AujAY6EXHmMQy5Zsha09SbsDW7oF
Well, just ask for a pay cut, and you’ll pay less taxes! ;->
Thanks David for the perverted McCain picture.
No, I really do feel sorry for him. I think he is out of his league. This job is beyond his reach. He’s a better maverick in the Senate. On the world-stage, it just doesn’t play.
A pirate would make a lousy admiral.
Biased: Nonsense, Quebec is a very family oriented society, been that way for 400 years with a tradition of caring and family life rooted in a solid Christian (Catholic)society. For what it’s worth they have a legal system based on the Code Napoleon, not English Common Law, where rehabilition of the young offender is paramount over punishment/prison, understanding that a child in trouble is a society in trouble. BYW the first guy to run this type of thing was that ole’ socliaist/commie/pinko/lefty, vonBismark who instituted it under the guidance of that other total democrat and champion of the working man …Kaiser Willhem. Travel much, biased?
And every time I hear McCain say, “Why not give EVERYBODY a tax cut, I can’t help thinking about that guy who was testifying about how his Wall Street outfit went belly up, and how he walked away with half a billion in his pocket.
It just sticks in my craw, somehow.
At a campaign rally in Roanoke, Obama compared McCain’s health care proposals to drug advertising.
“It’s like those ads for prescription drugs. They start out and everybody’s running in the fields and everybody’s happy, then there’s a little fine print that says, you know, the side effects they may include,” Obama said to laughter from the crowd.
Here is a table made by your’s truly based on taxable income with 2008 rates:
Income Tax Rate
25,000 2,948 11.79%
50,000 6,698 13.40%
70,000 10,188 14.55%
100,000 17,688 17.69%
150,000 30,744 20.50%
250,000 61,229 24.49%
350,000 94,229 26.92%
400,000 111,575 27.89%
Same calculations with Obama’s increased rates:
Income Tax Rate
25,000 2,948 11.79%
50,000 6,698 13.40%
70,000 10,188 14.55%
100,000 17,688 17.69%
150,000 30,744 20.50%
250,000 62,720 25.09%
350,000 98,720 28.21%
400,000 118,243 29.56%
This is too funny –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu_fHWTofcs
The Penguin should sue.
Two males, estimated to be in their 20’s, exited a dark blue Chevrolet Tahoe SUV, at about 12:25 am Thursday in front of Tiller’s Wichita abortion mill, and vandalized the pro-life KCFL Cross display on the north side, by removing and breaking wooden crosses. They uprooted all 23 of the large Crosses along Kellogg drive, and about 30 of the small Crosses along Bleckley Street. Pro-lifer Greg Biggs was able to stop the vandalism and chase off the vandals, getting video footage of their vehicle.
Police and prosecutors will likely keep their blinders on for this criminal act.
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Thus far in the 40 Days for Life campaign against America’s abortion mills, ending November 2, 268 mothers have decided against the contract killing of their baby, at least 2 abortion mill killing staff have quit their jobs, and the number of killings is down significantly, causing several abortion mills to close for some days.
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Marley-esque. (Referring to the chain-wearing apparition of deceased miser Jacob Marley in Dickens’ “A Christmas Carol.”) That’s how a father refers to carrying for the rest of his life the decision to send his son, diagnosed with Down Syndrome, to an abortion mill killing.
The abortionist quack who delivered the dead boy remarked that there was no visible sign of Down Syndrome. 90% of babies diagnosed with Down Syndrome before birth are killed in abortion mills, many who have falsely tested positive for the disability.
23% of abortions are attributed to economic reasons, such as avoiding the high cost of medical care for disabled children – by mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading them.
parkay – just like political signs planted in the public right-of-way so your emblems planted there are legal. Perhaps the guys in the SUV were from the City cleaning up illegal signs etc.
typo – not ‘legal’ – ILLEGAL
Payback is abitch:
General Colin Powell is set to endorse Obama this Sunday on Meet the Press.
Now THAT would be something!
The only problem with your lil tax rate tables above is that you are basing them on what Obama has SAID the LAST TIME.
He’s changed his PLAN several times.
His voting record is clear though – OBAMA IS FOR HIGHER TAXES!
How much higher?
Who the heck knows? Obama keeps CHANGING his STORY about what his TAX PLAN is gonna be.
Someone said that Obama’s plan would be just 3% higher for the top group.
Well if “just 3%” is no big deal, then WHY DON’T YOU ALL PAY 3% more too!?!
mxyzptlk
Posted October 17, 2008 at 5:01 pm | Permalink
Payback is abitch:
General Colin Powell is set to endorse Obama this Sunday on Meet the Press.
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Wow, that’s a BIG surprise!
Powell’s endorsement, now why is that a BFD?
MaxGrobnik is a lying Republican toady and his mother never loved him.
CapnAmerica
Posted October 17, 2008 at 1:00 pm | Permalink
“I just see MaxGrobnik, who can’t defend his opinions.”
No kidding, Cosmos!
Looks like our work here kicking right-wing ass is done for the day . . .
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In your dreams…
Gosh Capn, you sound as tough as JR now. JR outta jail yet? How was your latest vacation behind bars Capn?
“MaxGrobnik
Posted October 17, 2008 at 5:04 pm | Permalink
…Well if “just 3%” is no big deal, then WHY DON’T YOU ALL PAY 3% more too!?!”
If my taxable income was more than $357,000, then 3% more taxes on my income over that amount would not be a big deal (unless I had reeeaaalllly overextended my credit cards) and I would pay it without much complaint.
Max your a loser and other than make fun of you, there is no other use for your toady life. Waterboard him!
Plus that is taxable income, not gross income. To get a taxable income of $357,000 a person is probably making about $400,000.
Do you think people making $400,000 are hurting for money and cannot afford an additional $6500 per year?
The Oracle of Omaha says now’s the time to buy, anybody take his advice today?
MaxGrobnik
Posted October 17, 2008 at 5:06 pm | Permalink
Powell’s endorsement, now why is that a BFD?
Maybe because he served in 3 Republican administrations, including stints as National Security Advisor, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of State?
Wow, that’s a BIG surprise!
You mean you expected it all along? Why?
Say,
What percentage of Ohio voter registrations were audited?
When did the audit take place?
Who conducted the audit?
Of those audited, what error rate was found?
What fraud rate was found?
If ya can’t answer those questions, then you have no friggin idea if the voter registration process in Ohio has the proper controlls in place to prevent election fraud.
Y’all can’t even describe the controls that are in place.
Did anyone in Ohio (or any other state) produce a report showing how many addresses had more then two absentee ballots sent to that address?
I bet I could order 1,000 absentee ballots from 10 counties in Ohio, and have them sent to one address, and nobody would notice. Acorn has taught us all now how to play that game.
Max – wasn’t Powell in the Bush administration?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Powell
Brian, if your income is much lower then $357,000 then 3% would be even less of a big deal.
Idiot.
Powell’s endorsement will not sway one voter either way.
BFD.
Now Murtha’s endorsement, that could actually be a NEGATIVE endorsement for Obama.
You know, Murtha’s comments about his own citizens of PA being racist.
That’s a big help.
Powell’s a gun-banner too.
No wonder he endorsed Obama!
Actually, Max, I suspect that Powell’s endorsement WILL sway some votes. IF he endorses Obama he will give ‘cover’ for other Republicans to follow suit.
Idiot.
The UK Guardian reports to-day that $70 billion of the $700 billion bailout are earmarked for banking management/executives. Headline: “Staff at six banks to pick up huge payout despite being beneficiaries of $700 billon bail-out”. Seems none of the bankers want to respond to the Guardian queries about their payout. Nice to know as I’m heading off to supper……
pth, no true Republicans will follow the advice of a phony Republican like Powell.
I’ve been really disappointed in Powell more than once, but I respect him as an intelligent person and think his endorsement says a bunch. He has compromised his judgment and even his morals in my opinion, but still knows the ins and outs and who it takes to address the challenges.
That’s OK max – since “true” Republicans (or “true” Democrats for that matter) only make up a small fraction of the electorate. Most of us are “fake” Republicans or Democrats and vote for the person instead of the label.
Powell was very aggressive at pushing the UN and public opinion to invade Iraq.
And now you Libs think he’s your sweetheart.
When you are desparate, you are truly desparate.
How about Rev Wrights endorsement, did Obama get that?
Max, you’re getting back into the shrill and hysterical mode. It undercuts your message badly. Maybe if you went out and shot off a few rounds…
Bush officials looked Colin Powell in the eye and told him, “This is the truth about Iraq,” when they knew if was false or at least unreliable information.
They made a great military man and American their unwitting stooge.
Max – at least Powell has admitted his mistake.
I know you’re having to hoard guns since President Obama will be coming to take them all away. Do you also have to hoard ammunition?
“In July 2007 Powell revealed that he spent two and a half hours trying to persuade George W. Bush not to invade Iraq but that he did not prevail. At the Aspen Ideas Festival in Colorado[42] Powell stated, “I tried to avoid this war. I took him [Bush] through the consequences of going into an Arab country and becoming the occupiers.”[43″
We needed the Powell Doctrine, we got the Bush Doctrine instead.
“How about Rev Wrights endorsement, did Obama get that?”
I don’t know, he has been quiet for a few months. But bush’s friend, the minister who married the bush daughter, endorsed Obama.
Spending $10 billion a month in Iraq. HA!
Max is about as dumb as they come. No wonder the Republicans are falling further behind.
DavidB
Posted October 17, 2008 at 5:39 pm | Permalink
Bush officials looked Colin Powell in the eye and told him, “This is the truth about Iraq,” when they knew if was false or at least unreliable information.
They made a great military man and American their unwitting stooge.
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David,
I disagree with you on most everything except the above post.
The sky is blue.
Like I said, payback’s a bitch.
Freebird – off topic – how’s that grandkid?
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told a fundraiser in Greensboro, North Carolina, on Thursday night:
“We believe that the best of America is in the small towns that we get to visit, and in the wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard-working, very patriotic, very pro-America areas of this great nation,” she said.
“This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans,” Palin added.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/17/campaign.wrap/index.html
Just as onrey as ever,he has no started calling me pa-pa when he sees me which is pretty neat
COOL!
Enjoy!
I’m outta here!
DavidB
Posted October 17, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink
The sky is blue.
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the grass is green,get off your ass and join the Marines
Powell’s endorsement will not sway one voter either way.
BFD.
Joe Blow, I mean Joe Six Pack, er, Joe the Plumber is to joing mccain rally in Ohio. Now theres an endorsement that’ll sway people. Forget Powell, who needs him when you have Joe?
JOE THE PLUMBER FOR PRESIDENT!! He couldn screw things up any worse than the other 2 are going to
And Regular cried and cried over how the Dems were mean to “unwilling” Joe.
Minnesota Rep. Michelle Bachmann … called for the major newspapers of the country to investigate other members of Congress that were anti-American in nature.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/17/gop-rep-channels-mccarthy_n_135735.html
Wow.. here’s successor to Palin… The New Right’s finest?
And Palin knows the preacher that casts out witches!!! WE MUST get these two together.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s wife, Cindy, is reporting $4.2 million in income for 2007 in newly released tax returns.
Cindy. McCain paid $1.1 million in taxes — a tax rate of 26 percent. She reported nearly $530,000 in itemized deductions.
The returns were released Friday by the McCain campaign. They show that her income dropped by nearly $2 million from 2006.
The McCain campaign had released her 2006 return in May but said Cindy McCain had requested an extension on her 2007 return.
Cindy McCain files her taxes separately from her husband.
She is heiress to a large Arizona beer distributorship and her worth has been estimated at more than $100 million.
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She’s just one of the gals, average, typical, middle class American. You betcha!
Yep, McCain has Obama right were he wants him. /sarcasm off
‘McCain-Palin on defense in must-win red states‘
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/17/red.states/?iref=mpstoryview
“Story Highlights
* Sen. McCain, Gov. Palin stumping in states that traditionally back Republicans
* Sen. Obama challenging Republicans in Virginia, North Carolina
* McCain forced to shore up GOP support instead of focusing on battleground states”
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Maybe McCain needs to find some more ‘Joe the unlicensed plumbers” to help him?
Obama Picks up First Tribune Democratic Endorsement
By LARRY ROHTER AND KITTY BENNETT
For the first time in its 161-year history, the Chicago Tribune is endorsing a Democrat for president.
The newspaper, which has links to the Republican Party that date back to the founding of the G.O.P., said Friday that Senator Barack Obama is the strongest choice “to lead us through a perilous time and restore in us a common sense of national purpose.”
With that startling departure, the Tribune joined a growing list of large daily newspapers across the country that have stated a preference for the Democratic nominee over Senator John McCain, his Republican rival. A quick survey shows Mr. Obama winning the backing of an overwhelming majority of dailies with circulations over 100,000 that have already made endorsements. Mr. McCain has won the endorsements of The New York Post and The Boston Herald, among others.
Gosh HOW much right wing spittle did I miss?
Former Ronald Reagan speechwriter, Peggy Noonan:
“We have seen Mrs. Palin on the national stage for seven weeks now, and there is little sign that she has the tools, the equipment, the knowledge or the philosophical grounding one hopes for, and expects, in a holder of high office. .
In the end the Palin candidacy is a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics. It’s no good, not for conservatism and not for the country. And yes, it is a mark against John McCain, against his judgment and idealism.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122419210832542317.html
If the Tribune can do it, so can the Eagle!
Kid has the TV…
I’m hearing some rumors that the bush administration is actively involved in efforts to suppress voter turnout. Apparently Senator Obama is making effort to address the situation.
More on this as it develops.
Comments from Obama the Messiah black brother, Lewis Farrakhan. I don’t think I like 0’s friends.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/nation.of.islam.2.843209.html
Obama Campaign Slams McCain, Bush For Voter Suppression Scheme
By TChris, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Fri Oct 17, 2008 at 04:52:21 PM EST
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Shameless voter suppression and intimidation efforts by Republicans might finally gain widespread public notice — further cementing the view that John McCain will do anything to win. The Obama campaign aggressively called out the McCain campaign and the Bush administration today.
The Obama campaign charged Friday that John McCain, in concert with the Bush administration, has embarked on a studied effort to disrupt Election Day in many states and suppress the vote. In a conference call with reporters Friday, Robert Bauer, chief counsel for the Obama campaign, suggested that a flurry of fraudulent registration complaints recently, and a subsequent leak by FBI officials that the agency was investigating the incidents, were part of a coordinated attempt by McCain and the administration of President Bush to intimidate voters.
Bauer said the timing of the comments and the leak suggested a “partisan plot” to suppress the vote on Election Day.
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In a letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey released Friday by the Obama campaign, Bauer called the “current bogus claims of vote fraud” and the McCain campaign’s attempts to breathe life into the allegations by urging Justice Department investigations was “history repeating itself.”
The Republicans used similar tactics to suppress the vote in 2000 and 2004, Bauer wrote. The Democrats say the Acorn incidents are overblown. Moreover, they say fraudulent registrations don’t necessarily lead to fraudulent votes, since other controls are in place to prevent that.
The leaks that the FBI recently began investigating hark back to an on-going inquiry into whether the Justice Department was improperly involved in voter suppression activities in 2004, Bauer said. In his letter, he said the “Department has yet to recover its credibility’’ following the events of 2004.
Bully for Senator Obama’s campaign.
We’ll have no more repeats of the 2000 election theft.
George…another Bush toady boy.
Joe. . . are you having a bad week?
‘Joe the Plumber’s’ AZ driver license suspended‘
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323
“A plumbing license is not the only license “Joe the Plumber” is having troubles with.
The former Mesa resident has a suspended driver’s license and outstanding court fines in Arizona, according to Mesa Municipal Court records.
…
With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.
The only way “Joe the Plumber” could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.
Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license.”
Maybe I’ll make time to be an observer on election day.
I sure shook up an election site chief in 06!
I wore a “Axis of Evil” shirt with Cheney, Rumsfeld, and bush’s picture on it. It wasn’t intentional.
Well the woman running the site told me I had to turn it inside out or leave….”elcetioneering” ya know.
As I went to leave to go change, I noted that a car parked less than ten feet from the polling sites’ door had a bush sticker on it. I made sure to point this out to the woman who called me out.
“Shouldn’t that car be moved? That’s electioneering!”
Guess what?
Heh. It was HER car! The Democratic observer insisted that she move it!.
Now what is the connection between Farrakhan and Senator Obama?
“The only things Barack Obama and Louis Farrakhan have in common are that they’re both black, they’re both famous and they’re both based in Chicago.” as one blog put it.
On what basis are they “friends?”
Another debunked myth. The fallen soldier bracelet that Obama wears “against the wishes of the family”??
“MOTHER OF FALLEN SOLDIER ‘ECSTATIC’ BARACK OBAMA WEARS HER SON’S BRACELET”
http://www.truthfightsback.com/site/smear/284/
BlueJay
Posted October 17, 2008 at 7:33 pm | Permalink
Kid has the TV…
I’m hearing some rumors that the bush administration is actively involved in efforts to suppress voter turnout. Apparently Senator Obama is making effort to address the situation.
More on this as it develops.
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Will it be fair and balanced reporting or unfair and unbalanced? I’m guessing the latter
Freebird you are asking? Will it be fair and balanced?
Like we care?
We got it all. You are part of a dying breed.
Once everyone gets a taste of Prez Obama, there is no going back.
We will own all three branches of government.
We have the CEO’s of every major financial institution in America under government control.
We have all lending institutions under our control.
And as SCOTUS die or quit, we will own the judicial branch.
It is a given that Prez Obama (god bless him) will fire all the attorney generals and start fresh. No selective firings like Bushwack did.
We will start anew.
Welcome to our world.
dionysus
Posted October 17, 2008 at 8:30 pm | Permalink
Freebird you are asking? Will it be fair and balanced?
Like we care?
We got it all. You are part of a dying breed.
Once everyone gets a taste of Prez Obama, there is no going back.
We will own all three branches of government.
We have the CEO’s of every major financial institution in America under government control.
We have all lending institutions under our control.
And as SCOTUS die or quit, we will own the judicial branch.
It is a given that Prez Obama (god bless him) will fire all the attorney generals and start fresh. No selective firings like Bushwack did.
We will start anew.
Welcome to our world.
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so Blue Jay authorized you to speak for him? You a great dishonor to your handle.
I refuse to be part of your world you socialist scum and when people who earn their living and not wait on handouts from the Magic Negro get tired of being soaked,the will say as Bartlby said “I’d prefer not to”and they wont be part of your world
Now this is impressive:
The Chicago Tribune, a newspaper that has not endorsed a Democrat for president since it was founded in 1847.
From their editorial:
Many Americans say they’re uneasy about Obama. He’s pretty new to them.
We can provide some assurance. We have known Obama since he entered politics a dozen years ago. We have watched him, worked with him, argued with him as he rose from an effective state senator to an inspiring U.S. senator to the Democratic Party’s nominee for president.
We have tremendous confidence in his intellectual rigor, his moral compass and his ability to make sound, thoughtful, careful decisions. He is ready.
…
It may have seemed audacious for Obama to start his campaign in Springfield, invoking Lincoln. We think, given the opportunity to hold this nation’s most powerful office, he will prove it wasn’t so audacious after all. We are proud to add Barack Obama’s name to Lincoln’s in the list of people the Tribune has endorsed for president of the United States.
“I refuse to be part of your world you socialist scum and when people who earn their living and not wait on handouts from the Magic Negro get tired of being soaked,the will say as Bartlby said “I’d prefer not to”and they wont be part of your world”
Another bigot finally reveals himself to join the ranks of Regular, Boxlock, Nathan and HLP.
mxyzptlk – I’m going to assume that freebird was baing sarcastic.
Very,
But you are socialist mxyzptlk
mxyzptlk, yet another Lib hiding under a different nick.
And Mmx I’m not voting for either candidate they are both cut from the same cloth
#
dionysus
Posted October 17, 2008 at 8:30 pm | Permalink
Freebird you are asking? Will it be fair and balanced?
Like we care?
We got it all. You are part of a dying breed.
Once everyone gets a taste of Prez Obama, there is no going back.
We will own all three branches of government.
We have the CEO’s of every major financial institution in America under government control.
We have all lending institutions under our control.
And as SCOTUS die or quit, we will own the judicial branch.
It is a given that Prez Obama (god bless him) will fire all the attorney generals and start fresh. No selective firings like Bushwack did.
We will start anew.
Welcome to our world.
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Jack boots anyone?
roflmao!
Such delusions…
If you think the socialistic goose steppers are going to take over the country, then you might want to stay out of sniper range.
Freebird – I think this would be an interesting topic to discuss with you away from the charged atmosphere of te blog – over coffee or walking our dogs. Makes for a very different perspective.
Mayor’s Youth Council Kick-starts Shoe Drive
Date: October 16, 2008
Contact: Sally Stump, Central Kansas Podiatry Associates, (316) 269-3338
Audrie Miller, Regional Prevention Center/Mirror Inc., (316) 262-2421
Michelle Stroot, City Manager Office, (316) 268-4351
The Mayor’s Youth Council (MYC) will help the Central Kansas Podiatry Associates (CKPA) collect 3,000 pairs of gently worn shoes for those in need. The shoes will be collected from the public at four area high schools from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. on Saturday, Oct. 25 – National Make a Difference Day.
The four area high schools are:
• North High, 1437 N. Rochester;
• East High, 2301 E. Douglas Ave.;
• Northwest High, 1220 N. Tyler Road;
• Wichita Collegiate, 9115 East 13th Street North
The Mayor’s Youth Council selected this service project after being contacted by the Marketing Director for CKPA, Sally Stump. Dr. Benjamin Weaver and Dr. Paul Bassi, of the CKPA, are leading the campaign to collect and distribute the shoes.
“We see a lot of patients with inadequate shoes and we wanted to give back to the community by collecting shoes for the less fortunate,” Stump said. “Our goal is 3,000 pairs of shoes and socks for children and adults.”
Youth Mayor Marcus McNeal, a senior at Heights High School, said: “Our mission is to develop student leaders and help solve community problems facing youth. This was an easy project to support and we hope the public will support it, too.”
MYC members will also donate their own shoes and hold collection drives at selected high schools between Oct. 20-24. The public drive on October 25th will be the final collection day. Shoes will be delivered to the CKPA office at 933 N. Topeka St. An event flyer is attached.
The Wichita’s Mayor’s Youth Council (MYC) is a leadership organization comprised of 43 Wichita area high school students
http://www.wichita.gov/Government/CityCouncil/Mayor/YouthCouncil/
mxyzptlk,
what is bigoted about wanting to keep what I earn? If you want to give yours away thats your buisness.
Wichita Transit offers free shuttle service Saturday
Wichita Transit will celebrate the final day of the Farm and Art Market in Old Town with free shuttle service. The Transit Department will provide free shuttle rides from 9:00 am to noon Saturday, October 18th. The public can board the shuttle at the downtown Transit Center, 214 S. Topeka. The free shuttle will run approximately every 15 minutes between the Farm & Art Market and the Transit Center.
“We’re excited to be able to offer this shuttle service,” Interim Transit Services Director Mike Vinson said. “This is a great opportunity for people to take the bus to the Transit Center and then catch a free ride to the final day of the Farm & Art Market. We hope everyone will visit other businesses in the Old Town area as well.”
Entercom radio celebrities will broadcast live from 11:00 am – 1:00 pm while riding the bus on Friday October 17th. During the ride they will give away four tickets to the Power 93.9 Holiday Jam Concert which will be held on Saturday, November 15. Riders who are on the bus will be eligible to register for the concert ticket giveaway.
SNOW AND ICE PREPARATIONS UNDERWAY
Friday, Oct. 24, is the scheduled training day for 180 equipment operators and 36 supervisors responsible for the City of Wichita’s snow and ice response this winter.
The number of emergency snow and ice routes has increased from 18 to 24, to ensure that each route can be completed in a single eight-hour shift under normal snow and ice conditions. The increased number of routes means that additional crews are needed. Crews from the City’s Water Utilities and Park Department will be joining Public Works as first responders this season. In the past, Water and Park crews assisted Public Works on an as needed basis.
“Snow and ice response definitely requires a team effort,” says Tony DeCicco, Maintenance Engineer for the Department of Public Works. “Snow and ice events have a major impact on the safety and mobility of the community. We need to be prepared to respond swiftly and effectively.”
Training day will begin with a 10:30 a.m. meeting at the Mid-America All Indian Center. Employees will learn their assigned shifts and sites and an overview of duties and procedures will be presented.
In the afternoon, operators and supervisors will report to their assigned locations for training on plow mounting, spreader mounting and operation, vehicle inspections and work records.
Employees are expected to drive their routes before Oct. 24, to ensure they know the route and can get questions answered before the first snow and ice event of the season.
In the weeks following training day, all employees with less than two years experience operating snow removal equipment will be scheduled for additional training conducted by an experienced employee or by supervision.
I would like to get some comment from the Dims about the criminal, fraudulent theft of a man’s vote by a scum bag DimLib as I posted earlier today. What about it. Where is the condemnation of this crap. I repeat:
PROBE: OBAMA SUPPORTER STOLE MENTALLY-CHALLENGED MAN’S VOTE?
http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?s=9177991
“They told me to vote for Obama, I said no I wanted to vote for McCain,” said Jack Justice, a voter.”
“Jack Justice says the person helping him, selected Obama’s name. His sister says the family is often asked to sign a permission slips for trips, but for this they were never notified.”
“No permission slips, no nothing, he just came home and said he had gone,” said Nancy Justice, Jack’s sister.
They say the adult day rehab program where Jack Justice attends took him to vote, without the family’s permission. What’s worse is Justice says the person helping him wouldn’t cast the ballot for his choice for President.”
Democrat Scum!!!
Hawaii ending universal child health care
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93SBEUG0&show_article=1
HONOLULU (AP) – Hawaii is dropping the only state universal child health care program in the country just seven months after it launched.
Gov. Linda Lingle’s administration cited budget shortfalls and other available health care options for eliminating funding for the program. A state official said families were dropping private coverage so their children would be eligible for the subsidized plan.
“People who were already able to afford health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free,” said Dr. Kenny Fink, the administrator for Med-QUEST at the Department of Human Services. “I don’t believe that was the intent of the program.”
Well Duh!!! That is the cornerstone of socialism, and happens time and time again.
But will the socialist every learn….hell no!
“Will it be fair and balanced reporting or unfair and unbalanced? I’m guessing the latter”
Reporting?
The Obama campaign has made a request for a special prosecutor. The request is made to bush attorney general Mukasey.
Much may be determined in whether that special prosecutor is assigned or not.
Saw this on another blog
Public Service Announcement
Important Notice:
DUE TO
RECENT BUDGET CUTS
AND THE RISING COST OF
ELECTRICITY, GAS AND OIL,
THE LIGHT AT THE END
OF THE TUNNEL HAS BEEN TURNED OFF.
WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE
Sincerely,
The Government
With the government stepping in to control even more of our economy, in spite of the fact it was their involvement that cause it’s train wreck it reminds me of another less threatening example of how they manage.
An interesting perspective.
Back in 1990, the Government seized “Mustang Ranch”, the brothel in Nevada, for tax evasion and, as required by law, tried to run it.They failed and it closed. And now we’re trusting the economy of our country to a pack of nit-wits who couldn’t make money running a whore house and selling booze?
Freebird1971 posted October 17, 2008 at 10:16 pm
what is bigoted about wanting to keep what I earn? If you want to give yours away thats your buisness.
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Nothing. Just stay off all roads built with taxes, use your own money to make sure your food is safe, etc.
Get business OUT of Government.
Get Government IN to business.
BlueJay Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:36 pm |
“Get business OUT of Government.
Get Government IN to business.”
Gawd you are a SLOW LEARNER!!!
Back in 1990, the Government seized “Mustang Ranch”, the brothel in Nevada, for tax evasion and, as required by law, tried to run it.They failed and it closed. And now we’re trusting the economy of our country to a pack of nit-wits who couldn’t make money running a whore house and selling booze?
So, Boxylocks, would know about running a whore house? Makes sense to me…
YOUR links and other contributions here are very much in doubt “Boxlock”.
Since you’ve been less than honest in the past?
BUT for a minute, I’ll take your word.
The Government couldn’t run a whorehouse.
And just what sort of ethics does it take to run a whorehouse?
Government can be ethical as it is of the people. Business is subservient to the selective ethics of those who have the gold and make the rules.
Why should I? you take my money anyway so I might as well enjoy what the theft brought about. I dont mind paying for services I use but I DO mind paying for healthcare and welfare for deadbeats and trash who are too damn lazy to earn it themselves
BlueJay
Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:43 pm | Permalink
YOUR links and other contributions here are very much in doubt “Boxlock”.
Since you’ve been less than honest in the past?
BUT for a minute, I’ll take your word.
The Government couldn’t run a whorehouse.
And just what sort of ethics does it take to run a whorehouse?
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Just a guess,but could it be the same kind of ethics used to run any buisness?
I find you a curiousity “Freebird”.
Your posts betray you as what I would call a “con”, a Republican, etc.
But in the past, you seem angered by my giving you the label. Why?
“And just what sort of ethics does it take to run a whorehouse?
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Just a guess,but could it be the same kind of ethics used to run any buisness?”
Thanks the second?
Boxlock
Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:32 pm | Permalink
With the government stepping in to control even more of our economy, in spite of the fact it was their involvement that cause it’s train wreck it reminds me of another less threatening example of how they manage.
An interesting perspective.
Back in 1990, the Government seized “Mustang Ranch”, the brothel in Nevada, for tax evasion and, as required by law, tried to run it.They failed and it closed. And now we’re trusting the economy of our country to a pack of nit-wits who couldn’t make money running a whore house and selling booze?
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LOL — That was back in the “good ol’ days” of a Republican Establishment…. And you howl about Socialism??? HA! HA!
NOW, the SON of that “whorehouse” President has decided that the GOVERNMENT can run the banking/financial industry!!
And you have the unmitigated GALL to s it here and shoot insults at Obama, and constantly call him a Socialist and a Commie???
Man, YOU need a new brain….!!!! dim wit!!
Priceless video of McCain when Letterman asks him about pal-ing around with convicted felon and domestic terrorist G Gordon Liddy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpGdL1K46Hc
Priceless video of McCain when Letterman asks him about pal-ing around with convicted felon and domestic terrorist G Gordon Liddy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpGdL1K46Hc
“On June 27th of this year the NY times reported that The Bureau of Land Management put a two year moratorium on all government applications for solar energy production on public lands (1).”
http://www.naturalnews.com/024411.html
Freebird1971
Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:46 pm | Permalink
Why should I? you take my money anyway so I might as well enjoy what the theft brought about. I dont mind paying for services I use but I DO mind paying for healthcare and welfare for deadbeats and trash who are too damn lazy to earn it themselves
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Fine… dandy…. Then look at YOUR tax dollars as building highways, and bridges, and all the other things that EVERYbody gets use out of…. Think of somebody else’s tax dollars supporting the things YOU dont like!!!
There are enough tax dollars to go around!!
Even enough to take care of YOUR needs, that somebody else might not like!! LOL
Oh yea, due to the 16th Amendment, The Goernment is already seeing that he Wealth is distributed around…. THAT is why we have taxes…. I swear the stupid levels are rising daily….
And for many, all they are bitching about is the fact that for the first time in the history of this NATION, a Black man is likely going to be the President!!!
Damn, even the “right-leaning” TV show “24″ had a Black President!! until some right wingers in the White House had him assasinated — AFTER he was out of office….
mxyzptlk,
Thank you for the Letterman & McCain video link.
Re McCain’s misquoting Ayer’s “done more”, and the date of the NY Times interview — Sen. McCain seems to be very desperate.
But I guess that’s understandable, considering his presidential campaign.
Oh and “Joe the plumber” who is NOT a plumber.
I missed that.
“Joe” (I understand this is also not his name?) is a single dad like me. “Joe” is also a member of the natural law party I hear.
I’m sorta sorry for “Joe”, used like he was by the McCain campaign. But then “Joe” is a useful idiot for the cons. The working guy who is far right?
He SHOULD be known as “Joe the dumber”.
I’ll start this again tomorrow.
Why don’t the editors (the two of them left) put our comments in the Eagle anymore?
It’s been a VERY long time since we have been informed about how many hits this blog gets. Why is that I can guess. Bad news is news they do not want to share.
A con blogger talked the editors into registration. That particular person had issues with some of what was being posted here and I think it was his goal to restrict readership. And while registration HAS had its advantages, it is my take it has killed readership here. Folks are not going to register just to read. And if they don’t read, they are not encouraged to post.
I want to encourage the Eagle to remove registration for reading and posting this blog.
This is a very important time in our nation’s history. Folks should not have to jump through hoops to read or post free thinking.
Oh and to the above I would add…
There are nearly infinite choices in blogging.
I’ve recently been made aware of some rather intriguing opportunities.
Now as I say, it was a con that killed readership here. Too, the Eagle has gone all business everyday and eliminated the WE Talk section.
Phil you had better appreciate what it is that you have left of what your paper had here. What more would you care to lose?
Back in 1990, the Government seized “Mustang Ranch”, the brothel in Nevada, for tax evasion and, as required by law, tried to run it.They failed and it closed.
Considering this is the Government, I’d guess the reason for failure is because of wanting too much of the business given to them for free.
“deadbeats and trash”
Ahh.. the milk of human compassion flows in his veins, doesn’t it?
He calls fellow human beings “trash.”
fear and desperation, DavidB… they are scared silly!!
PreD — ROFLMAO!!!
Say, maybe thats what is wrong with the financial crisis….
StevenEDavis post:
“So, Boxylocks, would know about running a whore house? Makes sense to me…”
Steven, you are just plain stupid and willfully so.
I never said I know how, I said the government couldn’t, so how are they going to run the banking industry and the economy.
I think I know…..the government is populated with idiots like you!
“And you have the unmitigated GALL to s it here and shoot insults at Obama, and constantly call him a Socialist and a Commie???”
….by our resident fake preacher
You bet I do….because that is exactly what he is, along with the other Dim trash in congress, especially those in leadership positions.
DavidB
Posted October 18, 2008 at 1:31 am | Permalink
“deadbeats and trash”
Ahh.. the milk of human compassion flows in his veins, doesn’t it?
He calls fellow human beings “trash.”
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No I called people who won’t get off their lazy asses and help themselves deadbeats and trash,get it right boy and deal with it