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What is this new icon for the open thread? Could it be the EAGLE opinion editors beginning the day with “The Scream?”
Intimidation by ObamaNation (The Coming “Thugocracy”)
Townhall ^ | October 12, 2008 | Mark Hillman
Barack Obama says Republicans “are going to try to make you afraid of me.” Well, it’s hard to imagine how the GOP could conjure up a more fearsome specter of an Obama presidency than the one created by the tactics of his own campaign.
Responding to those who dare commit blasphemy against The One, Obama’s campaign has unleashed lawsuits and urged prosecution by no less than the Justice Department, enlisted elected officials to threaten and intimidate his foes, and deployed its vast internet e-mail list to silence bloggers and radio talk shows.
In Missouri, Obama allies, from a U.S. Senator to a local sheriff, threatened criminal proceedings against television stations that air anti-Obama commercials. Such “police state tactics” prompted Gov. Matt Blunt to charge Obama’s campaign with “abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism.”
ObamaNation used the same strategy against the National Rifle Association when its political fund released ads to educate gun owners about Obama’s hostile record. Bob Bauer, attorney for the Obama campaign, urged cable and television stations in Pennsylvania to “immediately cease” airing the NRA’s ads, because the campaign determined they were “false, misleading and deceptive.”
There’s more.
http://townhall.com/Columnists/MarkHillman/2008/10/12/intimidation_by_obamanation?page=full&comments=true
I think the picture pretty well describes the mood of the nation!
The repubs. should adopt it for a campaign picture.
Help is on the way though, Obama has a 10 pt. deal, will the pundits still be asking ‘Why can’t Obama close the deal?’
If he can maintain that kind of lead going into election night, Repubs won’t even attempt to steal another election.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081013/pl_nm/us_usa_politics_poll_report_3
If you’re not with us, you’re against us!
If you don’t want to be part of the solution, then you’re part of the problem!
“I’ve been warned that Flyers fans, they get so enthused, that they boo everybody at the drop of the puck,” Palin said at a Saturday fundraiser. “But what I thought I’d do is I’d put Piper in a Flyers jersey, bring her out with me. How dare they boo Piper!”
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Palin_fields_Pennsylvania_protests_1012.html
Gotta admire someone who would use their own children as human shields. That’s the sort of thing a “hackey” mom does, use her children as props in a campaign and let them absorb some of the hate that you have spread across the country.
The last thing most mom’s would’ve done is drag the kid out for a booing from the crowds.
Wonder how she likes to be on the receiving end of crowd hysteria?
Well, if they’d of thrown things, she could have ducked behind the kid, I guess.
If she wanted to stop the boos she could have stayed on the bench and let the adorable kids go out. It would have been low class to boo the children just because they have an association with their hate filled mother. Only Sarah Palin supporters would resort to something like that.
I see the leftists would rather focus on issues they can understand, like what does Sarah Palin dress her kids in. The “View” mentality.
More fun than trying to defend Obama’s lack of experience and association with hard leftists and former domestic terrorists.
Oops, did I say something racist?
Not biting on your red herring today, everyone knows it stinks.
The icon for this Open Thread is for the Republicans on Nov. 5. God Bless Obama/Biden.
Heckler – how about the yells to “kill him” coming from the McPalin thugs? As for lawsuits your buddy Paul seemed to think the frivolous one against Obama indicated reality.
Pot, meet kettle …
outlander,
Play victim much? Kind of pathological, you know.
Townhall?
Heh. Heheheh. HEHEHEHEH. HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAH.
From the department of “telling you people what to think”…
Hey heckie, care to give us another rant about kos or du or huffpo?
Hypocrisy, thy name is….
This blog and it’s topics have such a Liberal twist that it isn’t really worth posting on any more. I have notices the lack of rational post recently and the influx of Liberal hate and venom to replace it.
““But what I thought I’d do is I’d put Piper in a Flyers jersey, bring her out with me. How dare they boo Piper!”
They weren’t booing Piper. SHE is just a little kid that Sarah Palin put in the line of fire. SHAMEFUL!
I nominate Sarah Palin for worst mother of the year. Seconds?
Dear Sane Folks,
It’s going to be a whirlwind of Right-Wing victimology these next four years. Brace yourselves.
NEWS FLASH IMMEDIATE RELEASE (AP):
A public hearing will begin at 0930 eastern time on the flagrant and deliberate criminal acts of voter fraud being conducted by the liberal gestopo brown shirt organisation known as Acorn.
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This investigation step is being taken in Cleveland, Ohio, by the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections. Cleveland, as you know is already home of the blue people of Ohio, one of three large metropolitan areas in the state which vote blue, and may swing the rest of the red state in the presidential election.
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Further documentation of the stolen Obama=ACORN election.
Watch live on FOXnews.
bth
So a couple nutjobs at a rally bother you? How do you know they werent plants? Wouldnt be the first time.
Are you bothered by these exhibits of hate from the Left?
http://tinyurl.com/3r3dda
The icon brings to mind the public’s reaction when they open their 401k statements, and realize they don’t ever recognize the carnage of the last couple of weeks!
Bye “ANTI”.
Oh, BlueJay….Didn’t say I was leaving.
American Way,
A little projection, no, by a Wingnut such as yourself calling anyone else a Brownshirt?
As for the “stolen election,” well, American Way, seems to be that that “stabbed in the back” narrative you’re planting is a trademark tactic of NAZI ideology.
Guess that makes YOU the Nazi, American Way. Which is appropriate, since Nazism is a RIGHT WING ideology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolchstosslegende
You WILL be governed by a duly-elected, legitimate Black President, American Way. You best think hard before trying to take matters into your own hands.
The coming liberal thugocracy
Michael Barone
“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors,” Barack Obama told a crowd in Elko, Nev. “I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.” Actually, Obama supporters are doing a lot more than getting into people’s faces. They seem determined to shut people up.
That’s what Obama supporters, alerted by campaign e-mails, did when conservative Stanley Kurtz appeared on Milt Rosenberg’s WGN radio program in Chicago. Mr. Kurtz had been researching Mr. Obama’s relationship with unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers in Chicago Annenberg Challenge papers in the Richard J. Daley Library in Chicago – papers that were closed off to him for some days, apparently at the behest of Obama supporters.
Obama fans jammed WGN’s phone lines and sent in hundreds of protest e-mails. The message was clear to anyone who would follow Mr. Rosenberg’s example. We will make trouble for you if you let anyone make the case against The One.
Other Obama supporters have threatened critics with criminal prosecution. In September, St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce warned citizens that they would bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Mr. Obama that were “false.” I had been under the impression that the Alien and Sedition Acts had gone out of existence in 1801-’02. Not so, apparently, in metropolitan St. Louis. Similarly, the Obama campaign called for a criminal investigation of the American Issues Project when it ran ads highlighting Mr. Obama’s ties to Mr. Ayers.
These attempts to shut down political speech have become routine for liberals. Congressional Democrats sought to reimpose the “fairness doctrine” on broadcasters, which until it was repealed in the 1980s required equal time for different points of view. The motive was plain: to shut down the one conservative-leaning communications medium, talk radio. Liberal talk-show hosts have mostly failed to draw audiences, and many liberals can’t abide having citizens hear contrary views.
To their credit, some liberal old-timers – like House Appropriations Chairman David Obey – voted against the “fairness doctrine,” in line with their longstanding support of free speech. But you can expect the “fairness doctrine” to get another vote if Barack Obama wins and Democrats increase their congressional majorities.
Corporate liberals have done their share in shutting down anti-liberal speech, too. “Saturday Night Live” ran a spoof of the financial crisis that skewered Democrats like House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank and liberal contributors Herbert and Marion Sandler, who sold toxic-waste-filled Golden West to Wachovia Bank for $24 billion. Kind of surprising, but not for long. The tape of the broadcast disappeared from NBC’s Web site and was replaced with another that omitted the references to Mr. Frank and the Sandlers. Evidently NBC and its parent, General Electric, don’t want people to hear speech that attacks liberals.
Then there’s the Democrats’ “card check” legislation that would abolish secret ballot elections in determining whether employees are represented by unions. The unions’ strategy is obvious: Send a few thugs over to employees’ homes – we know where you live – and get them to sign cards that will trigger a union victory without giving employers a chance to be heard.
Once upon a time, liberals prided themselves, with considerable reason, as the staunchest defenders of free speech. Union organizers in the 1930s and 1940s made the case that they should have access to employees to speak freely to them, and union leaders like George Meany and Walter Reuther were ardent defenders of the First Amendment.
Today’s liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that once prided themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.
Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Mr. Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech they don’t like and seem utterly oblivious to claims this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead.
Michael Barone is a nationally syndicated columnist.
Heckler,
Up your ass. The McCain / Palin fish rots from the head down. Don’t try to run away from the message of hate your ticket has been pimping.
John McCain has had multiple opportunities to correct the lies spouted by his supporters at his rallies. That he has only now done so demonstrates just how central these lies are to what remains of his campaign.
GALLUP DAILY: Obama-McCain Gap Narrows…
ZOGBY MONDAY: OBAMA 48%, MCCAIN 44%…
RASMUSSEN MONDAY: OBAMA 50%, MCCAIN 45%… DEVELOPING…
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Dang. Just when the insufferable left starts to think it’s in the bag…
Lots of Fear of a Black President on the threads today. Racists running scared, evidently.
CF2K
Posted October 13, 2008 at 8:40 am | Permalink
Lots of Fear of a Black President on the threads today. Racists running scared, evidently.
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You are a drooling race hustler.
CF
Whose obsessed with race? The Left just keeps bringing it on.
Go look at the hate on display at my above link. It’s from the Left. You will find no parrallel on the Right.
“A little projection, no, by a Wingnut…”
Please continue to show your ignorance CF2K, and your racial profiling of other posters.
You obviously label everyone opposed to Obama as one of your Wingnuts. I am a Ron Paul guy and I voted for democrats in the last election.
So try to ignore posts from other posters with opposing views – it is too much for you to handle without projecting trash from the mind of an idiot.
I posted information. Other posters may tune in to hear the facts and truth.
I’m sure that is something of no interest to you.
CF
“correct the lies spouted by his supporters at his rallies. ”
Examples please.
Heckler, it is obvious that CF2K has barely enough brains to drive an ant’s go-cart halfway, around the inside of a Cheerio.
His “projection” basically says: If you oppose the democratic candidate for president you must be a racist.
Does this sound like there are any signs of intelligence to you?
Heckler, it is obvious that CF2K has barely enough brains to drive an ant’s go-cart halfway, around the inside of a Cheerio.
His “projection” basically says: If you oppose the democratic candidate for president you must be a racist.
Does this sound like there are any signs of intelligence to you?
About Flyer fans. They boo everything and anything. When a Canadian team is in town to play the Flyers, “Oh Canada” gets booed, been there, saw that and nobody takes any notice. (Some State Department types may quiver though). Same thing with Palin, she at least would understand what the game is all about unlike most of the twits who drop a ceremonial puck for votes. Once when my brother a penaty and was sitting in the “box” my mother came out of the crowd and berated him for loosing his temper and pointing out he couldn’t help his team by sitting in the penaly box, and it him on the shoulder with her umbrella. The immediate crowd around the box just roared with laughter, now that is a real hockey mom. Palin pales in comparison.
If the Alaska legislature comes after her for abuse of office?
Will Sarah Palin throw one of her kids at them?
Whom is more like the Nazi:
“But something has gone terribly wrong with a mainstream Left that tolerates a climate where the next logical slur easily devolves into Hitlerian invective. The problem is not just the usual excesses of pundits and celebrities (e.g., Jonathan Chait’s embarrassing rant in the New Republic on why “I hate George W. Bush” or Garrison Keillor’s infantile slurs about Bush’s Republicans: “brown shirts in pinstripes”), but also supposedly responsible officials of the opposition such as former Sen. John Glenn, who said of the Bush agenda: “It’s the old Hitler business.”
Thus, if former Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore breezily castigates Bush’s Internet supporters as “digital brownshirts”; if current Democratic-party chairman Howard Dean says publicly, “I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for” — or, “This is a struggle of good and evil. And we’re the good”; or if NAACP chairman Julian Bond screams of the Bush administration.
http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-supporters-call-sarah-palin-cnt.html
“Idiot” wins Nobel Prize in economics:
American Paul Krugman wins economics Nobel
New York Times columnist, Princeton professor commended for analysis
STOCKHOLM, Sweden – Paul Krugman, the Princeton University scholar and New York Times columnist, won the Nobel prize in economics Monday for his analysis of how economies of scale can affect trade patterns and the location of economic activity.
Krugman has been a harsh critic of the Bush administration and the Republican Party in The New York Times, where he writes a regular column and has a blog called “Conscience of a Liberal.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27159654
Here on the blog we can really be proud! Our own economics expert is so vastly superios to Krugman that Krugman is reduced to ‘idiot’ status next to Paul’s shining brilliance!
Boy, the Wingnut hissy fit is in full steam, isn’t it? Should I snivel like ksgrm about how you little bitches are all “ganging up” on me?
Heckler,
Here’s a bona fide plant at a McCain rally: an African-American minister who tells McCain to go after Barack Obama on the issue of Jeremiah Wright.
http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2008/10/begging-for-a-w.html#comments
And I “will find no parallel on the right” for Left Wing hate? I’ll just let that stand, so others can chew on it.
American Way,
Actually, no: my claim is that if you oppose the Democratic African-American Presidential Candidate on the grounds that he’s a Muslim terrorist or because you’re claiming that he’s a terrorist sympathizer, THEN you’re a racist. And I DO consider your attitudes to be textbook racist, American Way: make NO mistake.
I’d put Krugman up against the true idiot Kudlow, any day.
bth
The Nobel society has become (perhaps always has been) a mutual back patting society for the Left.
Krugman is a idiot. He’s been dead wrong so many times in so many of his columns I would be embarassed to be of the same political persuasion.
“Heckler
Posted October 13, 2008 at 8:31 am | Permalink
bth
So a couple nutjobs at a rally bother you? How do you know they werent plants? Wouldnt be the first time.
Are you bothered by these exhibits of hate from the Left?
http://tinyurl.com/3r3dda”
yes
CF2K, is opposing him because he is a Liberal kook, also racist. If so, please tell me how it is?
Indeed, CF, the wingnut meltdown continues apace.
What is scary about the next four years is not an obama presidency. It will be business as usual, despite the bleating about change.
The REALLY scary thing is what these loser wingnuts will do to avenge their loss. Given that they have no shame in their posts here, one can only conclude they will stop at nothing.
Now THAT’s scary! They dont mind destroying the whole country just to prove themselves correct.
I think we are about to see, in the next couple of weeks, just how far they are willing to go to deny reality.
It’s gonna get more ugly than sane people can even imagine.
But hey, at least we’re STILL safe from gay marriage….
1. Germany October 1920:
In Munich, in the fall of 1920, Hitler himself created the Ordnertruppen; a body of muscular Nazis, ex-soldiers, and beer hall brawlers in order to protect his speeches and disrupt his opponents. It originally functioned as a group of bodyguards to enforce order at Nazi gatherings. It was shortly changed to Sportabteilung, a cover name meaning “Sports section” and came to be known by the initials SA. In late 1921, the name was changed to the current name Sturmabteilung. Under their popular leader, Ernst R?hm, the SA grew in importance within the Nazi power structure, eventually claiming thousands of members. The SA carried out numerous acts of violence against socialist groups throughout the 1920s, typically in minor street_fights called zusammenst?sse (’collisions’). The SS eventually took over their original role.
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Oct 2008 United States of America:
I was at a Sarah Palin event in Philadelphia, at the Park Hyatt Hotel – late Saturday afternoon (Oct. 11th). If you are easily grossed out by the “C” word, I am sorry. But as Andrea says below, if McCain supporters wore a shirt that said “Obama is a Ni**er” or even “Obama is a B*stard” or “Obama is a Terrorist” at an Obama Rally, they would either be thrown off the premises, have their heads kicked in, or even be detained at the local police station (I know this for a fact: I just had on a McCain button at a recent Obama event and I didn’t think I was going to get out alive).
Sorry the picture is not clearer. But these four young people were right in front of the hotel. They have on the nicest shirts. There were worse. There was group as well carrying around a fake dead fetus – exclaiming that “abortion should have been the path for Bristol(?) Palin”. And quite a few smoke bombs, etc. etc.
I also had some nice words thrown at me.
There were about 500 organized protesters. And about 500 not so organized at this event. The police and hotel security and secret service were letting me all the way up to the hotel steps. In a few cased … a few protesters got into the lobby.
CF
“I am begging you, sir. I am begging you. Take it to him.”
Are you serious? This is hate speech?
Scary stuff Dude!!!
HAHAHAHAAHAHA
When I read that Krugman won the Nobel, I just KNEW this would be the wingnut meme.
“The Nobel society has become (perhaps always has been) a mutual back patting society for the Left.”
That would be the meme they recycled when Gore won the prize.
Must be a shortage of wingnut memes…
CF2K?
Wanna get to know the wingnut that is responsible for the “obama is a secret muslim” meme?
I like this part:
He is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was
blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of “moderately severe
character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid
flavor and a grandiose character.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Heheheh. Wingnuts, that must be like looking in a mirror for you.
Certainly “Moderately severe character defect mainfested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character” describes paulie the shillie.
And some of the other unhinged wingnuts as well.
And you guys wonder why the libs dont announce their meetups?
On a lighter, happier note,
My ducks are starting to lay eggs! We got back from the dog show at Lawrence yesterday evening and I found 5 eggs, 2 more this morning.
I have nesting boxes made up for them, just haven’t installed them in the duck pen yet.
Exciting times here at the ‘ranch’!
I just thought I’d throw this out here http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=Q4IrVrkU A Video Portrait Of Barack Hussein Obama – Just incase you havn’t head
It’s impossible to have rational discourse with someone who equates
“God DAMN America”
with
“I am begging you, sir. I am begging you. Take it to him.”
Just dang.
Are you bothered by these exhibits of hate from the Left?
http://tinyurl.com/3r3dda
Perhaps there are SOME out there who are beginning to get ‘the picture’. The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning’s televised “Meet The Press’. and the author is employed by none other than the Washington Post!! Yeah……the Washington Post of New York and Los Angeles Times fame!! Must say that I’m duely impressed………………
“The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God”
C. S. Lewis
From Sunday’s Televised “Meet the Press” Senator Obama was asked
about his stance on the American Flag.
Obama Explains National Anthem Stance Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn’ USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain why he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United States Code,
Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171… During rendition of the national anthem when the
flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention
facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least, “Stand and Face It”.
Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want
to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. ‘There are a lot of people in the world
to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys
a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped
for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the
World T o Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.”We should consider to
reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies
hope and love. It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance
to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of warring people, should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our governments. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon t he nations of Islam an unfair injustice. My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine”. Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country’s First Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America .
Summarizing the right….
“We’re melting, MELTING!
Who could have thought you could destroy our beautiful ugliness? Oh what a world, what a world!”
This is not rational. This is no different than the propoganda of Hitler and his brown shirts (SA):
The Indoctrination of Children Begins
Posted by Kim Priestap
Published: September 30, 2008 – 10:58 AM
These kids are already being taught to worship Obama as if he were some kind of god. That’s what kids in North Korea, Cuba, Saddam Hussein’s old Iraq, and other totalitarian regimes were taught to do as well. The purpose is if they grow up seeing their leaders as god-like they’re less likely to rise up against them.
Check out the beginning of the video which says this took place at a neighbor’s house in Venice, California, as if it were some kind of spontaneous, grassroots effort by a bunch of musically inclined neighborhood families, but the video itself doesn’t support that. They have t-shirts with what looks like a professionally designed logo, and they had to have spent many hours with these kids teaching them to sing in harmony a song that doesn’t sound like it was written by some random parent. Nope, I’m not buying what these Obama worshipers are selling.
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/30/the-indoctrination-of-children-begins.php
So CF2K, are you ready to call me a racist because I oppose Obama because he is a Liberal kook?. Please tell me how that is racist?
Or did you run away?
“Paulesen’s $700 billion trial balloon leaking badly”
by Jed Babbin
Secretary Paulson announced that the $700 billion bailout was going to be set aside for the moment and that he would use some of that money to inject capital directly into troubled banks, buying interests in them and effectively nationalizing them.
To be fair, it’s impossible to know how deep the crisis is, and consequently impossible for the Treasury Department and the White House to devise a precise solution.
All the focus on the sub-prime mortgages and the mortgage-backed securities based on them — both seriously devalued by the depressed housing market — has diverted attention from the so-called “credit-default swaps”. They are the low-density cholesterol clogging the financial arteries.
A credit-default swap is a contract between two parties regarding the eventual maturity (payoff) of a bond. One side buys “protection” — he can sleep at night that he will be paid. The other side (seller) accepts the payment to guarantee that sleep. The contract itself can be traded back and forth (different folks get involved as eventual recipient or guarantor of “protection”) and for more or less money as the value of the bond fluctuates. (Only recently has there been an effort to centrally clear (settle) the swaps.)
According to the Wall Street Journal, “…the government’s takeover of mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on Sept. 7 triggered payouts on swaps tied to as much as $1 trillion in debt…” There may be as much as $50-60 trillion of them in the market right now, making that much of the financial market illiquid.
The current Gross Domestic Product of the United States is about $15 trillion. If there are $60 trillion in CDS out there, they represent four years of economic life of the United States. But they aren’t all held here: many European and other banks have them. No one knows how much is where, or what they are worth.
Bouncing from bailout to payout, the Bush administration has only diminished confidence in its own actions. Congress lacks both the expertise and the leadership to do more than it has done. The courts, fortunately, haven’t seized control. Which means all three branches of government lack the power to restore confidence in the market.
Does anyone believe that the European Union members — the “leaders” of which comprise most of the G-7 nations — can either lead or finance the recovery? Who among them will restore confidence in the markets? None can or will, individually or together. As much as they may hate the fact, Europe doesn’t have the economic power to do anything more than follow our lead.
American economic power has to restore confidence in the markets for the simple reason nothing else can. But how?
Two things.
First, let’s minimize government intervention in the free market. If it is necessary to inject capital into banks directly, let it be by loans, not by purchasing the banks. Coupled with that must be cancellation of Paulson’s monarchic plan to make the government the home mortgage broker of last resort. People who cannot afford to keep their homes shouldn’t be bailed out by a Treasury Department mortgage welfare program that will burden taxpayers for decades to come.
Second, let’s tell the truth. This financial crisis, like the ones that have come before, must be worked out by free market forces or it will not be worked out of at all. And this will take time: months, perhaps years.
Throughout history, courageous action has often proved to be nothing more than refusing to act rashly in response to panic. Demonstrating that sort of courage will do more to increase market confidence than anything else the government can do. The more government intervenes, the longer the recovery will take.
So that black conservative talk show host that was a plant at Mccain’s town hall and saying to attack obama on rev. wright (gee, why haven’t they tried that before?) is getting hate mail.
Children singing about hope and change frightens you “American way”?
Have you ever heard grown men and women singing the Walmart loyalty song?
Heh. HAHAHA HEEHEE HEEEEEE
Scroll down to the second post for a picture of the wingnut’s “good side”….
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
ProfPhineasPotter
Too much detail, if you get beyong ACORN, Fannie&Freddie, bad loans, Obama, then you lose the RW.
Anti, it may not have occurred to you, but CF has a job and may have gone to work.
And you?
So Libs, are you ready to call me a racist because I oppose Obama because he is a Liberal kook?. Please tell me how that is racist?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 13, 2008 at 9:33 am | Permalink
Anti, it may not have occurred to you, but CF has a job and may have gone to work.
And you?
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I figured we was just a typical animal lib and like to accuse people of the worst, then run away.
he=we
we=he…..more coffee
B.J.
“Children singing about hope and change frightens you ”
No. Teaching children to worship their political leaders is scary. And sick. Except to Maxists.
HLP, how are the duck eggs tasting?
“I figured we was just a typical animal lib”
Guess you figgered wrong.
Color me surprised…
Typical KFG post:
HHHEEEEEHEHe HA HAHAHAHAHA HEHEHE!!!
Body: Nonsense
Followed by:
Color me (fill in with an emotion)..
or
Kansas as (some self perceived piece of ‘clever’) as you think!
Followed by: Long winded cackle…
Germany 1930’s:
As soon as Hitler and his Nazi Party came to power in 1933, they began to mold the children of the German nation. No longer would school simply be about reading, writing, and arithmetic. Reading would be taught by telling the story of Hitler, Savior of Germany. A written essay might be about human genetics as it related to a racially pure Folk. And an arithmetic lesson might involve the number of miles one would have to travel to find Lebensraum—living room—for the exploding German population. Teachers were no longer able to use their own judgment and common sense. Their lesson plans were laid out for them by the state, and it was made clear that they had no choice but to teach Nazi propaganda.
Obama Nation 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8
Brainwashing of American Youth:
Obama is the Saviour.
Obama is the One.
Thanks to Obama I can do all things
through Christ which strengthen me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8
Precursor to the Nazi Way!
The future storm troopers US of ACORN:
The video evidence that the ACORN brown shirts will form US policy upon the installation of President Obama:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/11/video-the-obligatory-obama-says-acorn-will-help-set-his-agenda-sort-of-clip/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8
Hockey sucks, much like curling.
Unless you have a sixer of Elsinor and a heap ‘o back bacon eh?
Palin should come to a Thunder game. They suck so bad that she might actually be cheered here.
AmWay, all ready you cannot speak out against ‘The One’ with out being labeled a racist or having your personal property vandalized.
The oppression has started and will get worse.
Off the deep end, A.W. You need some counseling. You are paranoid.
Germany 1930’s:
Made compulsory in Germany in 1933, the Hitler salute developed into a daily reflex in a matter of mere months, and quickly became the norm in schools, at work, among friends, and even at home. Adults denounced neighbors who refused to raise their arms, and children were given tiny Hitler dolls with movable right arms so they could practice the pernicious salute. The constantly reiterated declaration of loyalty at once controlled public transactions and fractured personal relationships. And always, the greeting sacralized Hitler, investing him and his regime with a divine aura.
United States 2008:
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2008/8/7/one-nation-under-a-new-obama-salute.html
Sorry libs, but the parallel are undeniable.
1. Brown shirts (now red) ACORN members committing fraud to steal the election at the polling booth.
2. Brown shirts interrupting opponents rally. ACORN creating havoc and interrupting republican rallies.
3. Brown shirts wearing uniforms and taught to march in military fashion. American youth marching in uniforms.
4. The indoctrination of children. Singing praises to Obama on high.
5. The formal Obama salute.
Undeniable truth
ACORN=Brownshirts
OBAMA=ACORN
Next up: The liberal nuts will label me posting the truth nuts.
It’s in the koolaid.
American_Way
Posted October 13, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink
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Germany, 1930’s:
http://www.oldpicturepostcard.co.uk/nazi5.htm
United States of Acorn 2008:
http://acorn.org/index.php?id=16982
texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/the-salute/
(And now control of the press and freedom of speech.)
“Even McCain’s supporters are now less enthusiastic about his candidacy, returning to levels not seen since before the Republican National Convention.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/12/AR2008101202333.html?hpid=topnews
It is too early to get complacent. The Democrats blew one of the most winnable elections in U.S. history. Remember 2004?
American Way = American Waaaaaaaaaaaagh
Investors’ Real Fear: A Socialist Tsunami
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, October 10, 2008 4:20 PM PT
The Crash: “Why has the market dropped so much?” everyone asks. What is it about the specter of our first socialist president and the end of capitalism as we know it that they don’t understand?
And right now it looks like the U.S., which built the mightiest, most prosperous economy the world has ever known, is about to turn its back on the free-enterprise system that made it all possible.
It isn’t only that the most anti-capitalist politician ever nominated by a major party is favored to take the White House. It’s that he’ll also have a filibuster-proof Congress led by politicians who are almost as liberal.
Throw in a media establishment dedicated to the implementation of a liberal agenda, and the smothering of dissent wherever it arises, and it’s no wonder panic has set in.
What is that agenda? It starts with a tax system right out of Marx: A massive redistribution of income — from each according to his ability, to each according to his need — all in the name of “neighborliness,” “patriotism,” “fairness” and “justice.”
http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=308530365266606
American Way,
Liar. Here’s way.
“The stunning con of this whole thing is the assumption that bad voter registration cards being submitted will lead to vote fraud. If somebody submits a card for Mickey Mouse it isn’t like Mr. Mouse is going to show up to vote. There is no voter fraud if nobody votes.”
http://mydd.com/
As I said before, you’re a liar, American Way. Plain and simple. You’re a liar whose goal is to lie and de-legitimate an Obama Presidency–as well as to legitimate illegal Republican vote suppression efforts.
Oh, and Am Way? You’re a racist to boot. If the hood–or the jackboot–fits, AmWay, then wear it.
Now if you’ll excuse me, SOME of us actually have, you know, JOBS that demand our attention.
#
ANTI
Posted October 13, 2008 at 9:39 am | Permalink
HLP, how are the duck eggs tasting?
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Haven’t eaten any yet. I gave three away last night. Planning an omlet for this evening.
I have two kinds of ducks, Peking and Khaki Cambells. Of the five Peking ducks I think two are female, maybe. I bought them straight run at Orslins. I have 16 Khaki Cambells and I’m suppose to have 15 female and one male.
The Khaki Cambells are smaller upright ducks and their eggs are smaller. They are supposedly better layers than the Peking ducks and sofar I think that five of the eggs were from the Khakis and two from the Pekings.
Duck eggs are generally richer (higher fat content) than chicken eggs, especially the Peking duck eggs.
I’ve a few guns and lots of ammo. Let the brown shirts come and they will.
Obama will have his retarded-petty power-trippin’-dumber-than-a-Wal-Mart security-guard-civil-homeland-security-forces out getting killed everyday. Obama and McCain, whomever wins, will bring us a new Stasi.
But AmWay, The writer of that piece of crap Pledge of Allegiance that most flag wavers adore, was a National Socialist. And wanted government take-over of all of the schools. He got what he wanted and brainwashed all of our minds with that fu c ked up pledge. Francis Bellamy, look it up.
McCain ain’t no better, cults on both side, ready to destroy us even further.
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”
The Gulag Archipelago: 1918-1956 by Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
http://lh3.ggpht.com/Main.Ben/Rv6iKlF22ZI/AAAAAAAAAvY/hhdcK_oHdkA/s400/american-school-children-bellamy-salute.jpg
The original pledge of allegiance was written by Christian socialist Francis Bellamy in 1892 for the Youth Companion, a popular youth magazine at the time. The original pledge is as follows:
I pledge allegiance to my Flag and [to] the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all
The second “to” was added a month after it was originally published, when President Benjamin Harrison issued a proclamation to have it recited by school children. Bellamy wanted to encourage obedience to the state in youth, and this was a way to do it.
The pledge has been revised twice. The first time was in 1923 to replace “my Flag” with “the flag of the United States of America” to prevent immigrants from secretly pledging allegiance to the flag of their home countries. The second was as mentioned above, in 1954 during the height of the red scare when the Knights of Columbus pressured the Congress to add “under God”
An interesting side note, but not one of great substance is the Bellamy salute that was used when reciting the pledge until 1942. This salute was very much like Nazi salute, which was exactly why it was stopped in 1942, shortly after we had joined WWII. Above is a picture of the Bellamy salute
FROM uscommonsense.net
HLP, sounds like everything is just ducky!
ksfarmgrrlmuncher-
Posted October 13, 2008 at 9:41 am | Permalink
“I figured we was just a typical animal lib”
Guess you figgered wrong.
Color me surprised…
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Speaking of color, what color of burka are you planning on?
People get older.
Good ideas, not so much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51dle65hgdE
and…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwhp_fU6YnA&NR=1
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated, Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ”one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
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We won’t need the pledge much longer.
MH –
This one’s much more appropriate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3mi-bKtDGA
Some things never change.
If there was “Clinton fatigue” in 2000, do we have “Bush exhaustion” in 2008?
“[Senator Obama is a] decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States.”-John McCain Oct 10, 2008
Didn’t you guys get the memo?
“GMC70″ –
Helluva performance. Thanks for the link.
Poor ol’ Keith Moon never had enough drums to hit.
And we’ll see if the new boss is same as the old boss.
President Obama will need a lobotomy first, however.
join the discussion
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=14817
Say AmWay,
Keep pissin in CFUK’s koolaide. When he starts calling you a Nazi, a racist, AND a liar, you know he’s tasted it.
more libbberal drivel directed towards manly mostly hetero god fearing right thinking con servatives
http://www.rfkactionfront.com/2008/04/bowlingual-translating-republican-code.html
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2008/8/7/one-nation-under-a-new-obama-salute.html
The new Obama salute is a gesture meaning “a*shole” in France.
A Field Trip to a Lesbian Wedding for 1st graders?
You have get them while they are young! Recruiting future lesbians and gays calls for early premptive action in the 1st grade.
“School Field Trip to Teacher’s Lesbian Wedding Sparks Controversy”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,436961,00.htm
A slight modification of the ‘Obama sign’ by holding the fingers in a more pointed shape at the top means something entirely different in the US and is very fitting of his followers.
Yeah, that’s righ, “RFL” –
They’ve gotta recruit people from an early age to be gay.
But I still think there’s a chance with “Nathaniel.”
MonkeyHawk,
Once again you liberals amaze me. You allegedely champion tolerance and acceptance expecially when talking about homosexuals, yet you still love to use it as an insult towards those on the right.
Hypocrital idiot.
Maybe it wasn’t an insult Nathan. Monkey might be trying to save you over to his side.
Obama will ban your guns, but you will get free koolaide.
http://www.gunbanobama.com/
Max,
You and I both know that the Democrats do not want to ban any guns.
They simply want to enact common sense regulations to help keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
Of course they start right off by banning guns, but pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Sure Nathan, ‘common sense regulations’ on our Constitutional Rights.
I’m sure these Democrats are all for ‘common sense regulations’ on Freedom of Speech, and the infamous invisible Right to Privacy which gives women the Right to Abortions.
If they are for “common sense regulations’, then let’s regulate abortions to be allowed only during the first trimestor, and let’s regulate abortionists pay for their own abortions. Oh, and only one abortion per women per year can be allowed.
For those who care about 2nd Amendment rights –
http://www.nrapvf.org/Elections/State.aspx?y=2008&State=KS
PRESIDENT/VICE PRESIDENT
(R) JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN
Back to top | What the grades mean
U.S. SENATE
(R) *PAT ROBERTS A
(D) JIM SLATTERY F
Back to top | What the grades mean
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
District 1
(R) *JERRY MORAN A
(D) JAMES BORDONARO F
District 2
(R) LYNN JENKINS C
(D) *NANCY BOYDA C
District 3
(R) NICK JORDAN A
(D) *DENNIS MOORE F
District 4
(R) *TODD TIAHRT A+
(D) DONALD BETTS D
Dear Nazi,
So now you’re not just any old Nazi, but a *scatological* Nazi.
Oh, and Nazi? Are you calling Sarah Palin a Democrat? After all, she endorses the “Right to Privacy.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDAO4NGamdk
Is Sarah Palin more stupid, or is Nazi?
CF2K = ‘Brother Number Two’
John McCain likes Barack Obama. He admires and respects Obama. He believes Obama is “very impressive, he’s thoughtful, he’s centrist.” Obama has “probably got a great future.” He is “a very honest and fine person” — “absolutely” qualified to be president
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/12/AR2008101201632.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Keep pissin in CFUK’s koolaide. When he starts calling you a Nazi, a racist, AND a liar, you know he’s tasted it.
Nathaniel
Posted October 13, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink
Max,
You and I both know that the Democrats do not want to ban any guns.
They simply want to enact common sense regulations to help keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
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We already have “common sense regulation” and I don’t hear you righties complaining.
Try carrying a bazooka in the rear window of the pick up.
1) The “Obama Unity handsign” is a creation by some LA design firm.”You interlace your hands in a circle, the interlacing being a symbol of different types of people coming together and the circle a symbol of unity,”‘ Rick Husong, owner of The Loyalty Inc.
It has no connection with the campaign outside of being promoted by a supporter.
2) “I believe in the Second Amendment, and if you are a law-abiding gun owner you have nothing to fear from an Obama administration,” Obama said. “This has been peddled again and again. Here’s what I believe: The Second Amendment is an indvidual right. . . people have the right to bear arms. But I also believe there is nothing wrong with some common-sense gun safety measures.” Senator Obama Sept 5, 2008
3) Maybe some people need a Messiah. Obama supporters just want an intelligent, competent team in the White House to clean up the many Bush disasters we are hurting from.
4) Are you going all “Bill Ayers” on us: “I’ve a few guns and lots of ammo. Let the brown shirts come and they will.”???
5) Max apparently supports abortion rights, he just wants the government to make more decisions that a doctor and patient now makes.. curious…..
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGRhNzJlMWY5NjdiNzhjMTRkYjMzNjYwOGJmYzNjMTY=
Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who…”
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGRhNzJlMWY5NjdiNzhjMTRkYjMzNjYwOGJmYzNjMTY=
Joe Biden also said:
Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGRhNzJlMWY5NjdiNzhjMTRkYjMzNjYwOGJmYzNjMTY=
Joe Biden also said:
Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGRhNzJlMWY5NjdiNzhjMTRkYjMzNjYwOGJmYzNjMTY=
And how can you forget:
Speaking to the New York Observer: Biden was equally skeptical — albeit in a slightly more backhanded way — about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGRhNzJlMWY5NjdiNzhjMTRkYjMzNjYwOGJmYzNjMTY=
Also from Joe:
Also from that Observer interview: “But — and the ‘but’ was clearly inevitable — he doubts whether American voters are going to elect ‘a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,’ and added: ‘I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.’”
More from Biden:
December 11, 2007: “If Iowans believe campaign funds and celebrity will fix the debacle in Iraq, put the economy on track, and provide health care and education for America’s children, they should support another candidate,” said Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro. “But I’m confident that Iowans know what I know: our problems will require experience and leadership from Day One. Empty slogans will be no match for proven action on caucus night.”
Also that night, Biden said in a campaign ad, “When this campaign is over, political slogans like ‘experience’ and ‘change’ will mean absolutely nothing. The next president has to act.”
September 26, 2007: Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro said, “Sen. Obama said he would do everything possible to end the war in Iraq and emphasized the need for a political solution yet he failed to show up to vote for Sen. Biden’s critical amendment to provide a political solution in Iraq.
XXX,
The point was that what the liberals here keep calling “common sense regulations” is anything but that.
Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007: “I don’t want [my son] going [to Iraq],” Delaware Sen. Joe Biden said from the campaign trail Wednesday, according to a report on Radio Iowa. “But I tell you what, I don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and so how we leave makes a big difference.” Biden criticized Democratic rivals such as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama who have voted against Iraq funding bills to try to pressure President Bush to end the war. “There’s no political point worth my son’s life,” Biden said, according to Radio Iowa. “There’s no political point worth anybody’s life out there. None.”
Biden in October of 2002: “We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.”
Davy, I thought you were for ‘reasonable restrictions’, but not for abortion rights?
Hmmm…..
”I think he can be ready, but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.”
–Joe Biden, on Barack Obama – 2007
“There’s less than one percent of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than four of five percent that are minorities. What is in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you’re dealing with.”
–Joe Biden, Explaining why schools in Iowa are performing better than those in Washington, D.C., Washington Post
XXX,
Try carrying your .500 S&W in the back window of your car or truck.
“As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?” –Sarah Palin, interview with CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co”, July 2008
“As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border.” –Sarah Palin, explaining why Alaska’s proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, interview with CBS’s Katie Couric, Sept. 24, 2008
“Well, let’s see. There’s — of course — in the great history of America rulings there have been rulings.” –Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008
“They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan.” –Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Oct. 5, 2008
“I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you.” –Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years in the Senate, CBS interview, Sept. 24, 2008
She NEVER did by the way.
Socio-economic demographics in Iowa differ from those of the Washington, D.C. inner city.
If you are trying to make some case that Biden is being racist.. yer WAY off base. As usual, no source is listed so we can’t tell what phony baloney blog you may be using to create a false case…..
MORE CONTEXT of the same remarks ““When you have children coming from dysfunctional homes, when you have children coming from homes where there’s no books, where the mother from the time they’re born doesn’t talk to them — as opposed to the mother in Iowa who’s sitting out there and talks to them, the kid starts out with a 300 word larger vocabulary at age three. Half this education gap exists before the kid steps foot in the classroom,” the Delaware Democrat added.”
Kltpzyxm,
How do you know she never did?
Barack Obama: All Talk on Equal Pay
“Barack Obama claims he’s for equal pay for women, but women working in his Senate office earn an average of $9,000 less than men, while women in John McCain’s Senate office earn an average of nearly $2,000 more than men. American women understand that real leadership is about what you do, not just what you say.” — McCain-Palin spokeswoman Crystal Benton
FACT CHECK: Records Show Women Working In Obama’s Senate Office Were Paid Average Of $9,000 Less Than Men
According To Senate Records, Women Working In Obama’s Senate Office Paid An Average Of $9,000 Less Than Men, As “Obama Pays Women Just 83 Cents For Every Dollar His Men Make.” “Obama’s commitment to federally mandated pay equity stretches from the Rockies to Wall Street and beyond. And yet it seems to have eluded his Senate office. Compensation figures for his legislative staff reveal that Obama pays women just 83 cents for every dollar his men make.” (Deroy Murdock, Op-Ed, “Obama Only Talks Good Game On Gender Pay Equity,” Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 9/11/08)
Columnist Deroy Murdock: “In short, these statistics suggest that John McCain is more than fair with his female employees, while Barack Obama — at the expense of the women who work for him — quietly perpetuates the very same pay-equity divide that he loudly denounces. Of all people, the Democratic standard bearer should understand that equal pay begins at home.” (Deroy Murdock, Op-Ed, “Obama Only Talks Good Game On Gender Pay Equity,” Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 9/11/08)
FACT CHECK: From October 2007 Through March 2008, Full Time Male Employees In The Senate Office Of Sen. Barack Obama Earned An Average Annual Salary Of $9,226.49 More Per Employee Than Full Time Female Employees:
The Average Annual Salary For Male Employees Employed In The Senate Office Of Sen. Barack Obama Was $54,379.16 compared to $45,152.57 for female employees.
Of The Five Highest Paid Obama Staffers, Only One Is Female. (Legistorm Website,
Of The 20 Highest Paid Obama Staffers, Only 7 Are Female. (Legistorm Website,
FACT CHECK: From October 2007 Through March 2008, Full Time Male Employees In The Senate Office Of Sen. John McCain Earned An Average Annual Salary Of Nearly $1,942.21 Less Per Employee Than Full Time Female Employees:
The Average Annual Salary For Male Employees Employed In The Senate Office Of Sen. John McCain Was $53,936.15 compared to $55,878.36 for female employees. (Legistorm Website,
Of The Five Highest Paid McCain Staffers, Three Are Female.
Of The 20 Highest Paid McCain Staffers, 13 Are Female.
Sorry libs, but the parallel are undeniable.
Uhm. . .right. . .
(slowly backs out of the room. . .)
NEW ORLEANS — Republican Sen. John McCain, campaigning through poverty-stricken cities and towns, said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to more lawsuits.
Senate Republicans killed the bill Wednesday night on a 56-42 vote that denied the measure the 60 votes needed to advance it to full debate and a vote. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had delayed the vote to give McCain’s Democratic rivals, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, time to return to Washington to support the measure, which would make it easier for women to sue their employers for pay discrimination.
McCain skipped the vote to campaign in New Orleans.
APRIL 2008
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/23/mccain-opposes-equal-pay-_n_98342.html
“Annenberg, Ayers, Obama – The Chameleon Connection?”
or
“How Ayers along with Obama bilked the Annenberg Foundation out of tens of millions of dollars.”
Quite possibly, one of the most obfuscated relationships in today’s news is that between Weather Underground self-confessed terrorist and Barrack Hussein Obama, United States Senator.
Here is the unfolding story with many gaps; leopards changing their spots and blending into society from their radical pasts to that of “mainstream” America.
The Ayers-Obama connection first came to public attention last spring, when both Senator Hilary Rodham Clinton, Mr. Obama’s Democratic primary rival, and Mr. McCain brought it up. It became the subject of a television advertisement in August by the anti-Obama American Issues Project and drew new attention recently on The Wall Street Journal’s op-ed page and elsewhere as the archives of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge at the University of Illinois were opened to researchers. That project was part of a national school reform effort financed with $500 million from Walter H. Annenberg, the billionaire publisher and philanthropist and President Richard M. Nixon’s ambassador to the United Kingdom. Many cities applied for the Annenberg
money, and Mr. Ayers joined two other local education activists to lead a broad,
citywide effort that won nearly $50 million for Chicago.
In March 1995, Mr. Obama became chairman of the six-member board that oversaw the distribution of grants in Chicago.
One of the three co-authors of Chicago’s winning Annenberg Challenge $49.2 million grant proposal was:
William Ayers, associate professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago; co-director of the Small Schools Workshop; co-director of the Chicago Forum for
School Change—an affiliate of the Coalition of Essential Schools;[20] chairman of the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (ABCs) coalition;[21][22] former Chicago assistant deputy mayor for education (1989–1990);[22] brother of John Ayers, executive director (1994–2004) of Leadership for Quality Education (an affiliate of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago) and former associate director (1987–1994) of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago; son of Thomas Ayers, former president (1964–1980), chairman and CEO (1973–1980) of Commonwealth Edison and former vice president (1980) of the Chicago School Board.
At a meeting with Simmons and Patricia Albjerg Graham, Deborah Leff suggested that Barack Obama would make a good board chairman.[37] After meeting and being impressed by Obama, Graham told Obama that she wanted him to be chairman of the Board of Directors.
[37] Obama said that he would agree to serve as chairman if Graham would be vice chairman, to which Graham agreed.
It was later in 1995 that Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn hosted the gathering, in their town house three blocks from Mr. Obama’s home, at which State Senator Alice J. Palmer, who planned to run for Congress, introduced Mr. Obama to a few Democratic friends as her chosen successor. That was one of several such neighborhood events as Mr. Obama prepared to run, said A. J. Wolf, the 84-year-old emeritus rabbi.
One of Ayers’ staunch defenders in Chicago, Marilyn Katz, was part of the same SDS that launched the Weather Underground — and who now works on Team Obama.
***The results of an August 2003 final technical report of the Chicago Annenberg Research Project by the Consortium on Chicago School Research “suggest that among the schools it supported, the Challenge had little impact on school improvement and student outcomes, with no statistically significant differences between Annenberg and
non-Annenberg schools in rates of achievement gain, classroom behavior, student self-efficacy, and social competence.***
***So where did the money go that was to help the Chicago Schools?***
*****Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) translated Mr. Ayers’s radicalism into practice.
Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with “external partners,” which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or A.C.O.R.N). grants went to Obama’s community organizing alma mater, the Developing
Communities Project, where CAC’s goal was to turn parents into activists, because the family that agitates for socialism together, stays together***
Shipps, Dorothy; Sconzert, Karin; Swyers, Holly (March 1999). The Chicago Annenberg
Challenge: The first three years. Chicago: Consortium on Chicago School Research. Storch, Charles; Haynes, V. Dion (January 21, 1995). “Philanthropist puts his money on city schools”, Chicago Tribune, p. 1
Shaw, Jazz, (October 12th, 2008). “Let’s talk about Bill Ayers for a moment.
Rossi, Rosalind (January 24, 1995). “Schools get $49 million boost from Annenberg”, Chicago Sun-Times, p. 14
Shane, Scott, (October 3, 2008). “Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look into crossed paths.”, New York Times
Smylie, Mark A.; Wenzel, Stacy A.; Allensworth, Elaine; Fendt, Carol; Hallman, Sara; Luppescu, Stuart; Nagaoka, Jenny (August 2003). “The Chicago Annenberg Challenge:
Successes, Failures, and Lessons for the Future”. Consortium on Chicago School Research.
I wonder how the women in the senate are going to look in burkas…..
will we have the “call to prayer” before the high school games or at halftime?
What will the WNBA players wear?
Yep. Change is comin’
I hope my wife will still be able to go to the store unescorted.
Price of pork is coming down.
HALALA-HAHALAL-ALAAHAH-AHA-LLLAA!!!
biased1
Posted October 13, 2008 at 1:51 pm | Permalink
Price of pork is coming down.
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and sandal prices skyrocket!
http://www.foxnews.com/hannitysamerica/index.html
Machetes, they’re not just for cutting weeds anymore!!
Hannity SUCKS!!!
‘Not a radical group, and Ayers didn’t run it‘
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/790/
As Tracy used to say…
Pitiful. Just pitiful
ksfarmgrrlmuncher-
Posted October 13, 2008 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
As Tracy used to say…
Pitiful. Just pitiful
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As Tracy is about to say…..
Halalal-jaballaalalahah-halalal.
Which means, put the lipstick on your hogs boys and break out the burkas!
Heheheheh.
Ah yes, the sweet smell of wingnut desperation.
ksfarmgrrlmuncher- Ah yes, the sweet smell of wingnut desperation.
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Smells more like BBQ’d boer…..
yummy…..
Typical KFG post:
HHHEEEEEHEHe HA HAHAHAHAHA HEHEHE!!!
Body: Nonsense
Followed by:
Color me (fill in with an emotion)..
or
Kansas as (some self perceived piece of ‘clever’) as you think!
Followed by: Long winded cackle…
I think Bill Kristol may have hit a nerve with the McCain-Palin campaign, as illustrated by the response from the campaign to his column:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/13/nancy-v-bill-kristol/
Bill Kristol is now in the Obama camp? That’s what I infer from the comments made by the campaign spokesperson. Dysfunctional (Kristol’s term) might be a kind description.
Hmmm… I wonder if anti and biased (nice nics there) think somehow that I give a rat’s patootie what they think?
You guys are still gonna lose. Deal with it.
Yeah VT, the repukes are jumping off the bandwagon so fast they are landing on top of each other.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 13, 2008 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
Hmmm… I wonder if anti and biased (nice nics there) think somehow that I give a rat’s patootie what they think?
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I don’t care, I just point and laugh at you and BlueJay with your kooky little brains.
Rabid little mice, that’s all you are BJ & KFG. A boot heel usually takes care of mice.
ksfarmgrrlmuncher-
Posted October 13, 2008 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
You guys are still gonna lose. Deal with it.
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If the One gets elected all Americans will lose…..
Not just republicans.
Bill Kristol is a terrorist socialist commie muslim.
“If the One gets elected all Americans will lose…..
Not just republicans.”
So nobody says …
bth
Posted October 13, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
Bill Kristol is a terrorist socialist commie muslim. AND gay.
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fixed it.
Thanks …
:)
Bill Kristol is a terrorist socialist commie muslim. AND gay.
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Huh, all this time I thought Billy was just a goofy actor….
“Yesterday on Fox News Sunday, Bill Kristol said John McCain’s campaign has really become “a pathetic campaign.” In his New York Times op-ed this morning, Kristol went further, suggesting that McCain should “fire his campaign” and “start over.” ”
Maybe McCain should resign from the ticket!
Chuckle… And so it goes.
Congressman’s $121,000 Payoff to Alleged Mistress
Tim Mahoney Elected to Remove ‘Ethical Cloud’ of His Disgraced Predecessor, Mark Foley
By EMMA SCHWARTZ, RHONDA SCHWARTZ, and VIC WALTER
Oct. 13, 2008
West Palm Beach Congressman Tim Mahoney (D-FL), whose predecessor resigned in the wake of a sex scandal, agreed to a $121,000 payment to a former mistress who worked on his staff and was threatening to sue him, according to current and former members of his staff who have been briefed on the settlement, which involved Mahoney and his campaign committee.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5997043&page=1
Bill Kristol is now in the Obama camp?
Duh.
Obama was never in his own camp. It might as well be a Obama/McCain ticket.
Obama will carry the Bushco torch.
After the inaugural terrorist attack all of the die-hard, gun totin’ neo-conned will have Chairman Mao-type portraits of Obama on their walls. Rally ’round our protector.
And DavidB,
You can question my line about having guns and ammo and the coming “Obama-brownshirts” all you care to.
Obama, just like MCCain will be handed unprecedented powers (that Bush doesn’t have time to implement) and will use them to your horror.
No, strike that, you Obama types will fall right in line and do whatever is asked of you. Even if it means killing the civil-liberties that “Democrats” are so determined to defend.
You’ll wake up from your slumber at some point. But it’ll be too late for you.
former mistress who worked on his staff
OK, got my laugh for the day.
DavidB:
people have the right to bear arms. But I also believe there is nothing wrong with some common-sense gun safety measures.
C’mon David; even you can’t buy that Koolaid. He supported DC’s extreme (and unconstitutional) law, right up until it was clear it had no political support (and the SCOTUS ruled). His voting record in the Illinois legislature indicates his definition of “common-sense gun safety” is banning. And his own words indicate that the only thing that would prevent him from gutting the constitution on this issue is that (thankfully) he doesn’t have the votes.
“Common sense gun regulation” is code. It always is. We passed real common sense regulation a decade or two ago.
Obama cites “hunters and sportsmen,” routinely. Fine. But the 2nd amendment is not about hunting. It never was.
Obama may be a lot of things, but a friend of the 2nd amendment he isn’t.
How Stupid does Obama think YOU are?
I suppose if Charles Manson was released, Obama would pal around with Chuck assuming he was “rehabilitated.”
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1526626.aspx
Obama on Ayers: “Ultimately, I ended up learning about the fact that he had engaged in this reprehensible act 40 years ago, but I was eight years old at the time and I assumed that he had been rehabilitated,” he told radio host Michael Smerconish.
How Stupid does Obama think YOU are?
I suppose if Charles Manson was released, Obama would pal around with Chuck assuming he was “rehabilitated.”
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1526626.aspx
Obama on Ayers: “Ultimately, I ended up learning about the fact that he had engaged in this reprehensible act 40 years ago, but I was eight years old at the time and I assumed that he had been rehabilitated,” he told radio host Michael Smerconish.
In other words:
I learned he was a terrorist bomber, but thought he had been rehabilitated.
Barack Obomba: Say Bill, you bombed some buildings and hurt some people?
Bill Ayers: Yup.
Barack: But you be rehabilitated now, right?
Bill: Yup.
Barack: Oh, you’re ok then.
Ayers’ stature just keeps on rising (or is it falling) drawing comparisons to Manson, what’s next Ted Bundy, or the RW nut TErry Nicholson?
Charles Manson was never convicted of killing anyone. He’s actually strikingly similar to Obama (and MCCain), in that he can sucker a bunch of fools into worshipping him and doing whatever he asks of them. He was a sheeple herder just like McCain/Obama.
Obama to Ayers: “So uh, how do you light this thing?”
So I fail to see what Manson needs to be rehabilitated from?
Acid?
Pot?
Knives to the forehead?
Like a good politician, he’s just a clever slimebag.
Hey market up 900+ points socialism works eh
CULTURE OF DEMOCRAT CONGRESS CORRUPTION CONTINUES:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/13/report-rep-took-foley-seat-gets-sex-scandal/
Rep. Tim Mahoney paid $121,000 to a former mistress who worked on his staff and sued him after he threatened her job when she tried to end the relationship, former and current staff aides told ABC News on Monday.
Mahoney, D-Fla., won his congressional seat in 2006 after Rep. Mark Foley, a Republican, was forced to resign in the wake of a scandal involving a congressional page.
According to ABC News, Mahoney, who is married, started an affair with Patricia Allen while campaigning against Foley on a morality platform. Allen came on to his staff after he won the election in 2006, but when complaints about the alleged affair surfaced, Mahoney moved Allen to the campaign staff, aides told the broadcast network.
ABC reported Allen tried to break off the affair after learning Mahoney was supposedly cheating on her and his wife with other women. In response, he threatened her job, ABC reported.
“You work at my pleasure,” Mahoney told Allen in a taped Jan. 20, 2008, telephone call played for Mahoney staffers, ABC reported.
Rep. Tim Mahoney, a Florida Democrat whose slogan was “Restoring America’s Values Begins at Home,” is accused of paying $121,000 in hush money to his alleged former mistress, according to ABC News.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/10/13/2008-10-13_west_palm_beach_congressman_tim_mahoney_.html
“The Bush administration, which took office as social conservatives, is now leaving as conservative socialists.”
-Allan Mendelowitz
Obama to Ayers: “What do you mean I can’t smoke while we build this?? Damn it!! Michelle, bring me my nicorette gum!!!”
Socialism works for those that divvy up the rations. It keeps the dumb asses thinking they are equal while the leaders live in palaces.
And yeah, given we’re headed to a global currency, it’s good to see such commitment and conviction from all of the world players. They’ll all be fat and happy. You?, Hey at least you’ll be equally fu c ked with the rest of us (under the new socialism).
Tim Mahoney isn’t campaigning to be VP (and possibly president).
‘What the Troopergate Report Really Says’
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html
“But even though she won’t likely face any legal repercussions, the amateurism and cronyism of her brief administration hardly leaves Palin sitting pretty. Troopergate’s final verdict may be even more damaging than a rebuke: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists she hopes to unseat.”
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“A boot heel usually takes care of mice.”
Like I said, no wonder the libs dont announce their meetups…
The DOW closed how much higher? Biggest gain ever? 936 points!
Wow, half of the decline recouped in one day.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:21 pm | Permalink
“A boot heel usually takes care of mice.”
Like I said, no wonder the libs dont announce their meetups…
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Does KFG need the waaaaaahbulance?
Audio of Mahoney firing his MISTRESS!!!
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5998929
Where are the Congressional Hearings?
When will Mahoney resign?
Your threats are laughable. But just in case, no announcements have or will be made.
Too many nut jobs with guns on your side.
But then, you already knew that.
And why would someone waste their time by going to one of your petty ‘meet ups’ KFG?
Where’s the Democrat calls to police their own? Mahoney should resign.
Why isn’t Obama and the Dem leaders holding their own party to the same high standard they hold their opponents?
auntie_moose
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink
Hey market up 900+ points socialism works eh.
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Just the rich buying up the cheap stuff and getting richer…..
P.S. KFG, the Blog is not important enough for me to warrant a ‘meet up’ of any kind….sorry your life is lacking so much..
ANTI
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink
Obama to Ayers: “So uh, how do you light this thing?”
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too much….
i got tears…
Republican Foley was forced to resign for sending emails to a page.
Dem Barney Frank keeps his job after rear-ending a page.
And now Mahoney paying a mistress a salary with taxpayer dollars to keep her mouth shut, and bribing her, then firing her, nothing happens to him?
I supposes Mrs. Mahoney is just another loyal Democrat wife standing by her man in his time of crisis.
ANTI,
Do we dip our Kerala in our mutton biryani with our left hand or right?
biased1
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:27 pm | Permalink
ANTI
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink
Obama to Ayers: “So uh, how do you light this thing?”
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too much….
i got tears…
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YOU don’t light it. You get your wife to light the fuse:
WHEN John Murtagh was 9 years old, Bill Ayers’ friends tried to kill him.
“I remember my mother’s pulling me from the tangle of sheets and running to the kitchen where my father stood. Through the large windows overlooking the yard, all we could see was the bright glow of flames below. We didn’t leave our burning house for fear of who might be waiting outside,” wrote Murtagh recently in City Journal.
It wasn’t personal. John’s dad was a judge presiding over a trial of some Black Panthers. John still remembers the red graffiti on the sidewalk the next morning: “Free the Panther 21; The Viet Cong Have Won; Kill the Pigs.”
As best he recalls, Bernardine Dohrn, who’s now Ayers’ wife, first claimed credit for bombing John’s home in 1970.
John Murtagh is a now lawyer and Yonkers city councilman running for the state Senate on the GOP ticket. I reached him this week through his campaign. It wasn’t hard.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10082008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/terror_victims_qs_for_barack_132619.htm
Pleefer
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink
So I fail to see what Manson needs to be rehabilitated from?
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Drinking the bong water.
No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen
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By DINITIA SMITH
Published: September 11, 2001
”I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.” Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970’s as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago.
biased1
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:33 pm | Permalink
ANTI,
Do we dip our Kerala in our mutton biryani with our left hand or right?
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Depends if you want fecal bacteria with your Kerala.
Now he has written a book, ”Fugitive Days” (Beacon Press, September). Mr. Ayers, who is 56, calls it a memoir, somewhat coyly perhaps, since he also says some of it is fiction. He writes that he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972. But Mr. Ayers also seems to want to have it both ways, taking responsibility for daring acts in his youth, then deflecting it.
Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ”Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at,” is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn’t actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ”it’s been quoted so many times I’m beginning to think I did,” he said. ”It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.”
He went underground in 1970, after his girlfriend, Diana Oughton, and two other people were killed when bombs they were making exploded in a Greenwich Village town house. With him in the Weather Underground was Bernardine Dohrn, who was put on the F.B.I.’s 10 Most Wanted List. J. Edgar Hoover called her ”the most dangerous woman in America” and ”la Pasionara of the Lunatic Left.” Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn later married.
In his book Mr. Ayers describes the Weathermen descending into a ”whirlpool of violence.”
”Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,” he writes. But then comes a disclaimer: ”Even though I didn’t actually bomb the Pentagon — we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it.” He goes on to provide details about the manufacture of the bomb and how a woman he calls Anna placed the bomb in a restroom. No one was killed or injured, though damage was extensive.
Between 1970 and 1974 the Weathermen took responsibility for 12 bombings, Mr. Ayers writes, and also helped spring Timothy Leary (sentenced on marijuana charges) from jail.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63
ANTI
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink
biased1
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:33 pm | Permalink
ANTI,
Do we dip our Kerala in our mutton biryani with our left hand or right?
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Depends if you want fecal bacteria with your Kerala.
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We need more sand.
‘Make-Believe Maverick
A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty ‘
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print
Hell, THIS IS EXACTLY OBAMA’S AGENDA – Redistribution of Wealth!
(Income & Assets folks)
Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ”Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at,” is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn’t actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ”it’s been quoted so many times I’m beginning to think I did,” he said. ”It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.”
Ayers tried to Kill This Kid’s Family! Mother, Father, and 3 kids!
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/justin-mccarthy/2008/10/09/fnc-features-networks-ignore-ayers-victim
JOHN MURTAGH: Clearly it is. I was nine years old at the time. My father was the judge presiding over what was called the Panther 21 trial, members of Panther party who were charged with attempting to bomb landmarks in New York. On a February night in 1970, while my parents, my brother, sister and I were asleep in our house, the Weather Underground launched the attack on our family and set off at least three, possibly four bombs, one of them under the gas tank of the family car.
I supposes Mrs. Mahoney is just another loyal Democrat wife standing by her man in his time of crisis.
We can only hope Max,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew
cosmos_originally
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:45 pm | Permalink
‘Make-Believe Maverick
A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty ‘
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Yeah, rolling stone. good scource for political info.
I look for music tips and bio’s in the wall street journal…..
MaxGrobnik,
The editors already put up a thread for you.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/why-mccain-campaign-punches-arent-connecting/
Re: Anti and biased.
DNFTT
Re: Max
DNFTST
Re: American Way’s claim that he is just “posting information”.
Riiight.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/voter-fraud-vot.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?_r=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
Can you say REDISTRIBUTION of WEALTH?
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/13/obama-plumber-plan-spread-wealth/comments/
Obama to Plumber: My Plan Will ‘Spread the Wealth Around’
Barack Obama tells a plumber in Ohio he wants to “spread the wealth around,” eliciting criticism that his economic recovery plan is socialist in nature.
FOXNews.com
Monday, October 13, 2008
Agnatha
DNFTST
HAHAHAAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
good one
Keep pissin in Agnatha’s koolaide, and she’ll call you names too.
‘The Power and The Story’
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,992801-8,00.html
GIBBS/DICKERSON (12/13/99): A presidential candidate is not supposed to tell you about the rules he broke or the strippers he dated, or the time he arrived so drunk that he fell through the screen door of the young lady he was wooing.”
OK, here’s a little troll feeding, but it bears saying.
Rolling Stone actually has an excellent journalistic reputation. It has never just been about pop culture any more than the Wall Street Journal has just been about financial markets.
Of course, the red herring of dismissing Rolling Stone the way biased did is perfect for avoiding what the article actually contains.
And yes, it is editorially liberal, just as the Wall Street Journal is editorially conservative.
http://www.pbs.org/now/election-2008/question5.html
Generation Kill was a great mini series written by an embedded rolling stone reporter
Agnatha
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink-Rolling Stone actually has an excellent journalistic reputation.
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good one.
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Of course, the red herring of dismissing Rolling Stone the way biased did is perfect for avoiding what the article actually contains.
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here is a really good article on politics.
http://www.gunblast.com/Greg_NoGuns.htm
The journalistic reputation of Gunblast is actually quite excellent, in spite of their conservative slant.
Very cool!!
The Stratotanker: A Flying Piece Of History Endures
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95484569
This is neat. It mentions McConnell AFB and Tinker AFB.
annie_moose
Posted October 13, 2008 at 4:01 pm | Permalink
Generation Kill was a great mini series written by an embedded rolling stone reporter
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Peter Bergen is a prince of a reporter.
MaxGrobnik
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:57 pm | Permalink
Keep pissin in Agnatha’s koolaide, and she’ll call you names too.
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Try pooping in her punch bowl and see what happens!
Nobody ever claimed responsibility, or was caught or tried, for the Murtagh bombing. John M. Murtagh, “Fire in the Night,” City Journal, April 30, 2008
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)#cite_note-jmm-17
MaxGrobnik
Posted October 13, 2008 at 4:14 pm | Permalink
The journalistic reputation of Gunblast is actually quite excellent, in spite of their conservative slant.
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Yes, a truly remarkable resource for the latest attacks on the constitution. Actually I find the conservative slant a bit of a red herring.
True, just because they are conservative, doesn’t make them Wrong.
“here is a really good article on politics.
http://www.gunblast.com/Greg_NoGuns.htm ”
Note to self. This is what happens when one feeds a troll.
Re: biased
DNFTT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone
So, has anyone seen Religulous here? My wife and I saw it and it was surprisingly well attended.
Agnatha
Posted October 13, 2008 at 4:36 pm | Permalink
So, has anyone seen Religulous here? My wife and I saw it and it was surprisingly well attended.
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Was it a ‘hate fest’ that only a liberal could dream of?
Re: Anti
you know the rest
Two North Carolina Planned Parenthood abortion mills offered girls posing as statutory rape victims contraceptives instead of the legal protection required by law, further revealing Planned Parenthood’s nationwide practices of shielding rapists and violating restrictions on underage access to morning-after abortifacients.
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Student vandals at Missouri State University wrecked a pro-life cross memorial on the school’s Blair-Shannon Lawn on Wednesday, October 1. Some students cheered from a nearby sidewalk as others deliberately stepped on the crosses and one student rode his bike through the display. Some vandalism was captured on video, as the so-called students trampled on the First Amendment, academic freedom, and respect for the dignity and worth of human life, as well as hundreds of tiny crosses.
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A new Knights of Columbus radio spot featuring the heartbeat of a 10-week-old unborn child and urging listeners to vote pro-life has begun airing on radio stations around the U.S.
[Actually, the heart begins beating about 18 days after conception.]
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A new poll conducted by a research institute that surveys how abortion affects women finds 85% of Americans say negative emotional problems after an abortion are common or very common. 15% believed that abortion makes women’s lives better.
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“One of the things you’re going to see is a coalition that has just about completely taken over the Republican Party in this state, and if they have their way they’re going to take over state government. It’s made up of the Christian Coalition. It’s made up of the right to lifers. It’s made up of a coalition of people that have all sorts of different views that I think most of us in this room would find threatening to what it means to be an American.”
. . . leftist, baby-hating Mark Warner, former Virginia governor, candidate for U.S. Senate, and Obamanation supporter, terrified of those of us who cling to guns, religion, and the dignity and worth of human life
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On Saturday, October 11, pro-life grandmother Mary Adam, 72, was knocked to the ground and injured outside a Bellevue, NE abortion mill by the angry mother of a woman who Mary had persuaded away from the abortion mill the previous day. The woman had returned with her daughter to insure that she committed a coerced abortion, even though the daughter expressed hesitancy to Mary on Friday and indicated to her an interest in placing her baby for adoption. The pregnant woman’s mother became infuriated at Mary’s continuing attempts to persuade against the contract killing, since the notorious abortionist quack Leroy Carhart, involved in the 2005 botched, illegal, post-viable abortion death of Christin Gilbert in Wichita, KS, would be committing this abortion. She cursed, threatened, and shoved Mary, knocking her into the street, where she hit her head on the concrete.
Mary was rushed to a nearby hospital and was treated for a bump on the head and other minor injuries for which she is still suffering pain. The dangerous, violent woman was ticketed with a class-three felony assault, but not arrested.
Nebraska has a bad record of letting those off easy who assault and rob pro-lifers.
If a pro-lifer assaulted anyone in a righteous rage in front of an abortion mill entrance, you would likely not see them again, except during a trial, until after many years in a federal prison.
It seems the time has come for pro-life sidewalk counselors, even the grandmothers, to be wearing unconcealed firearms, for their self-preservation.
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Armed carjackers in Florida are now dangling their victims’ babies by their ankles, threatening abduction, injury, or death of the infant without the immediate surrender of the vehicle.
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A newborn girl found abandoned in a garbage bag Sunday in the Tacoma Park, MD area near Washington, DC died about an hour after being taken to a hospital. Police are searching for the parents of the infant, whose life was an estimated 7 hours in total.
We’ll see a lot more of these tragedies, if an Obamanation administration thoroughly trashes respect for the dignity and worth of human life.
McCoot says:
” My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.”
Where is MonkeyHawk when we need him? We need a repost of the Black Knight skit.
Paraphrasing here…
“Come on, I’ll bleed on ya! I can still fight!”
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Agnatha
Posted October 13, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink
OK, here’s a little troll feeding, but it bears saying.
Rolling Stone actually has an excellent journalistic reputation. It has never just been about pop culture any more than the Wall Street Journal has just been about financial markets.
Of course, the red herring of dismissing Rolling Stone the way biased did is perfect for avoiding what the article actually contains.
And yes, it is editorially liberal, just as the Wall Street Journal is editorially conservative.
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The jawless fish only buys Rolling Stone to cover the table, so the free-basing won’t burn the wood veneer.
85% of Americans have negative emotions anyway!!! whahahahahah I have negative feelings about daily dumps of cut and paste from that unreliable anti-choice website.
This video is awesome.
This applies to all people of faith– Catholic, Protestant, Mormons and Jews – not just to Catholics. I applaud the Catholic Church for taking this stand and making this video. Please help distribute this link so more people will see it – and hopefully, will heed its message.
I hope all of you will go to this site and see what the Catholics have done to encourage their 67 million people on election day. They don’t tell them how to vote but they sure do get their message across.
here is the link http://www.catholicvote.com/
Nice video… not too sure it is “officially” Catholic… but, nice video….
Good evening Chas. I going to attempt to be civil towards you, ha, as it appears you are also.
Chas
Posted October 13, 2008 at 6:04 pm | Permalink
Nice video… not too sure it is “officially” Catholic… but, nice video….
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Funny as heck, Chas questions the religious authenticity of the video……
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Chas
Posted October 13, 2008 at 6:04 pm | Permalink
Nice video… not too sure it is “officially” Catholic… but, nice video….
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The people in the Church are who are the Catholics.
The Pope and his many assistants are merely leaders.
Just like in a Baptist Church, the “Church” are the people of the congregration – not the building or the minister.
School Field Trip to Teacher’s Lesbian Wedding Sparks Controversy
Monday, October 13, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,436961,00.html
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This trip was an attempt to indoctrinate the kids, to try to convince them that gay weddings are “normal”.
How about public school trips to a man marrying a woman? Nope, not allowed.
An no wedding fieldtrips, straight or gay, are appropriate for public schools.
This is one big argument for School Vouchers.
Agnatha,
Where did you see Religuous? I couldn’t find where it was showing here.
Sorry. “Religulous”
Awwww, how sweet. . .
McCain was the headliner at a March 2006 ACORN co-sponsored event. See photo of him sitting, and smiling.
‘Acorn pushes back, hugs McCain‘
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Acorn_pushes_back_hugs_McCain.html
” Bertha Lewis, Acorn’s chief organizer, said in a statement that came with the photo, “It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans.”
”We are sure that the extremists he is trying to get into a froth will be even more excited to learn that John McCain stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN, at an ACORN co-sponsored event, to promote immigration reform,” she said.”
“So, has anyone seen Religulous here? My wife and I saw it and it was surprisingly well attended.”
Where is it playing in Wichita? I can’t find it.
Box, interesting video…I grew up Catholic. I don’t see how the president can change Roe vs Wade. We’ve only had one pro-choice president since abortion on demand was legalized and not one has had the power to overturn it. McCain doesn’t even make it part of his platform…at least I haven’t heard him discuss it.
It seems fruitless to vote for a candidate according to his beliefs on abortion. And how can McCain and Palin consider themsleves pro-life when they both supported a war that was unnecessary and has resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqi children? Being pro-life means that you respect ALL life, not just the preborn.
I think it’s more important to vote for a candidate on the basis of what they want to do about the monumental problems facing our country and their ability to do it.
“This trip was an attempt to indoctrinate the kids, to try to convince them that gay weddings are “normal”.”
Yeah, that’s the biggest agenda of all public schools…to “indoctrinate” kids to the gay lifestyle. How stupid can you be?
“Agnatha,
“Where did you see Religuous? I couldn’t find where it was showing here.”
It is at the Northrock 14.
Cleveland Ohio Today
The ACORN Hearings 13 Oct 2008:
Christopher Barkley walks to the microphone, wearing a Domino’s Pizza uniform and a doo-rag. He’s sworn in, and tells the board of elections why he registered to vote 12 times.
“I’d be sitting down in Public Square, reading my book,” says Barkley, who was homeless this summer. “People asked me, ‘Can you sign these papers?’ I said, ‘No, I’m already registered.’” They asked him to sign anyway: “I’m trying to hold onto a job,” they said. Being a “kind-hearted person,” Barkley says, he signed.
Freddie Johnson leaves his black Indians cap on his chair and goes to the mike. He’s 19, tiny in a huge sweatshirt. He sells cell phones from a kiosk in Tower City. When he’d wait for the bus in Public Square after work this summer, he says, ACORN workers would approach him. When he said he was registered, they’d “come up with a sob story” and say “it’s cool to sign again, because I need a signature, because they get paid by signature.” He filled out 48 cards with the same address. Sometimes the workers gave him a cigarette or a dollar.
Luren Dickinson of Shaker Heights, a bespecatcled guy in a suit, testifies he keeps getting board of elections mailings at his house, sent to people who don’t live at his address. They’re using his house number for false registrations. One guy, Darnell Nash, registered at Dickinson’s address and had his registration cancelled when Dickinson complained. But then, Nash came into the elections office, registered again at Dickinson’s address, and cast an early ballot. The board votes to void his new registration and ballot. The sheriff will be looking for Nash soon.
The board of elections votes to ask the county sheriff and prosecutor to investigate the duplicate registration cases. It’s going to be a national story. Fox News is covering the meeting. Republicans, including the McCain campaign, are portraying ACORN as a criminal organization.
After the meeting, ACORN staffers passed out a folder full of defenses, but their argument that they have a good quality control system was laughably weak. They said they called Freddie Johnson multiple times to verify his information was accurate. Sure, they called him a lot — because they had 48 cards from him to verify!
But they’ve got to figure out how to motivate their low-income workers without accidentally giving them reason to cheat, and they’ve got to check their cards better for problems. They could learn from groups like the Greater Cleveland Voter Coalition, which kept such a thorough database of who they registered in 2004, they used it to prove the county’s voter rolls were flawed!
The real effect of ACORN’s mistakes on the voting rolls will probably be small. But if Obama wins Ohio in anything less than a landslide, I’m afraid these stories will lead to lots of stolen-election conspiracy theories — reverse images of the left’s allegations about 2004. I could also see the Republican Party using ACORN mistakes to justify mass challenges to new voters’ eligibility.
“I don’t see how the president can change Roe vs Wade”
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Mary, Is this possible through the courts? Currently, the Supreme Court is fairly evenly split. It’s predicted the next president will appoint two and maybe three Justices. The two most likely to retire lean progressive.
Of course there are also many lower court appointments.
So, if Roe v Wade could be overturned through the court system, a president may have influence. It seems if Obama is elected the balance of the Supreme Court is more likely to remain fairly evenly split but a McCain victory could result in much less balance.
Updated: Oct 13, 2008 11:59 AM EDT
Do your duty journalists…..
At least nine states have now launched criminal investigations of ACORN, which has endorsed Barack Obama, and which the Obama campaign has paid $800,000 to support its voter registration activities.
KVBC – Channel 3 News
ACORN: The Poisonous NUT That Ended Democracy in America
By Cristi Adkins Saturday, October 4, 2008
Within its shell, ACORN contains all the makings of an intriguing government political conspiracy movie: drama, injustice, organized crime, election fraud, intimidation, violence, money, lies, extortion and a presidential candidate.[1]
If you are a patriotic, middle class American who spends most of your time working for your family and enjoying your FREEDOM, you have probably not been bothered by the sounds of an ACORN dropping before now.
But, while you were sleeping peacefully at night, the roots of Socialism have broadened its reach, without determent right into the foundation of the White House.[2]
Allow me to enlighten you to the ways of a radical community action group that could impact your way of life forever.
ACORN is an acronym that stands for Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Its mere definition contains hints of Socialism as it claims to be a group advocating for low- and moderate-income families that addresses housing, schools, neighborhood safety, health care, job conditions, and other social issues.[3]
Beneath that surface lie violence, intimidation, threats, race baiting and direct physical attacks on property, people and the legal establishment.
Without going into the myriad details, many ACORN policy proposals are widely considered to be in line with the far left wing of the Democratic Party.
Is ACORN Stuffing the Ballot Box?
Monday, October 13, 2008
The Brian Lehrer Show
John Fund, Wall Street Journal editorial board member, Opinion Journal columnist, and the author of Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy, argues voter fraud could have a significant impact on next month’s election
ANOTHER ACORN SCANDAL
Posted: 3:43 am
July 13, 2008
The folks at the far-left radical activist group ACORN are embroiled in a financial corruption and cover-up scandal that they managed to keep hidden from their donors and political partners for eight years.
Now their deception has been uncovered for all to see.
But is ACORN’s leadership apologetic? Not in the slightest. “We did what we thought was right,” said the group’s president, Maude Hurd.
ACORN’s founder – whose brother perpetrated the fraud – also defended the cover-up, saying publicity would have given the group’s critics a “weapon.”
As if there wasn’t enough ammunition already to discredit ACORN.
The New York Times reports that Dale Rathke – whose brother started the group back in 1970 as a vehicle to help low-income people “take back what’s rightfully theirs” – embezzled nearly $1 million from ACORN back in 1999 and 2000.
How did ACORN handle the crime? By disguising it on the books as a loan from one of its contractors and letting Rathke’s family make restitution at the rate of $30,000 a year. (An anonymous donor reportedly has agreed to pick up the remaining $800,000 tab.)
Incredibly, ACORN kept Rathke on the payroll as a $38,000-a-year employee until as recently as last month – and only let him go when word of his fraud leaked to donors.
And, the Times reports, most of the people who covered up the embezzlement are still working for ACORN.
Actually, none of this really should surprise. After all, “fraud” has practically been ACORN’s middle name.
While the Obama campaign continues to deny their candidates involvement with ACORN…..
Pictures like this don’t help their argument…
From what I can see in this pic….either Barry is working with ACORN…or, alternatively, he is hanging out with perverted old women who wear phallic shaped images on their red t-shirts….
you be the judge….
http://chicagoagainstobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/acornbarry.jpg
Wow……this is an eye opener.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU
I hope the McCain Campaign whips a quick ad together using Obamas own words to inform the people of America about the truth that OBAMA DOES in fact have very close ties to ACORN.
worldnetdaily.com
YOU KIDDING? A voter-registration card for 7-year-old O’jahnae Smith,
submitted by volunteer group ACORN, claimed she was 27.Posted: 4:23 am
October 12, 2008
O’jahnae Smith is ready and registered to vote this November.
There’s only one problem: She’s 7 years old.
The Connecticut girl is 11 years too young – and nobody in her family
knows how she ended up on a voter registration form submitted by
ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
“She’s registered to vote?” said a surprised Jerome Smith, O’jahnae’s
teenage brother. “She’s too young to vote.”
But that didn’t stop someone from forging the child’s signature on a
voter registration card and giving her a fake birth date that upped
her age to 27. The family told The Post a drug-addicted relative may
have given the bogus card to ACORN.
Voter registration fraud complaints like these continue to mount for
the group, already under scrutiny in 11 states where hundreds, if not
thousands, of new registrations are being questioned.
ACORN volunteers have been found to register dead people and even put
members of the Dallas Cowboys on Nevada lists.
The community organizing group has a long history of flooding low- and
middle-income neighborhoods in election years with temporary workers
instructed to register 20 to 25 voters per day – or risk getting
fired.
Most states prohibit paying per signature, but ACORN workers earning
$8 to $9 an hour still have to hit their quotas. And many need the
money – including some ex-cons in work-release programs…..”
Hell 7 years old is an improvement. Most states are reporting the dead registering!
Can’t wait for one dead person’s ballot to roll in from just one voting district.
“American_Way” –
Turns out John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) is a supporter of ACORN.
http://tinyurl.com/3r7qkz
John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) was the Keynote Speaker at Acorn’s 2007 convention.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/13/acorn-fires-back-at-mccain/
I think you ought to try the Obama was a member of the Manson Family attacks. They have more credibility.
American_Way is so busy copy/pasting he doesn’t even notice McCain was the headliner at an ACORN co-sponsered event.
‘Acorn pushes back, hugs McCain‘
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Acorn_pushes_back_hugs_McCain
John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) consorts with ACORN terrorists.
Another one, this time in 2006.
http://www.mdc.edu/Home/Press/rally.htm
CatholicVote.com is a project of the Fidelis Center for Law & Policy.
http://www.catholicvote.com
The universal name Fidelis is our flagship 501(c)(4) membership organization engaged in lobbying, public education, and the advancement of issues related to life, faith, and family.
Under its universal designation, Fidelis works to shape public debate and formulates public policy that promotes religious freedom, values human life and upholds the institutions of marriage and the family.
Fidelis Political Action is a federal Political Action Committee (PAC). Members of Fidelis can contribute to this PAC to help elect candidates who support a culture of life, traditional marriage and family friendly policies.
Fidelis Center for Law and Policy is our 501(c)3 legal and educational arm established to organize, coordinate, and engage in strategic litigation designed to defend religious liberty, the traditional family, and a culture of life. The Center works with expert attorneys across the country to initiate, fund, and coordinate legal efforts.
Fidelis Media Fund is a public-education entity set up as an IRS Section 527 organization. The Media Fund participates in public education campaigns to champion religious freedom, a culture of life and marriage and the family by engaging voters and concerned citizens on important policy issues and judicial nominations. The media fund develops compelling and sharply-focused mailings, print, radio and television advertising to reinforce grassroots initiatives on these same fronts. Our team is reinforced by media experts who have a wealth of experience in political and corporate media projects.
http://www.fidelis.org
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The organization, ‘catholicvote.com’ is not an official organization of the Catholic Church. THAT is what I suspected, and attempted to mention earlier.
Mishaps mark John McCain’s record as naval aviator
Three crashes early in his career led Navy officials to question or fault his judgment.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-aviator6-2008oct06,0,876358,full.story
“”Fidelis (Latin for faithful) is the universal name for a group of Catholic-based political, legal, research and educational organizations whose collective mission it is to formulate, promote, and defend public policies that uphold religious freedom, human life from conception to natural death, and the traditional institutions of marriage and family.”
Sounds pretty “Catholic-based” to me. Haven’t seen or heard any Catholics denying it’s relationship to them either.
It is not just Senator Obama and the A.C.O.R.N. community activists who want lower income voters to participate in our democracy by becoming voters.
Don’t you?
American_Way,
You should make multiple prints of this page,
‘Acorn pushes back, hugs McCain‘
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Acorn_pushes_back_hugs_McCain
and Monkeyhawk’s page.
http://www.mdc.edu/Home/Press/rally.htm
Then hi-lite McCain’s name and “ACORN”, and put the print-outs on your bathroom mirror, refrigerator door, near TV, etc.
I saw Jerry Moran today and I thought of the incredible political cowardice demonstrated by some of our representatives who fail to support the rescue plan.
The whole world is pulling together to stop a global financial death-spiral. Not Kansas representatives, with one except.
ion
It’s McCain’s current political positions that matter. Not ancient history. Not McCain’s, not Bill Ayers’.
“It’s McCain’s current political positions that matter.”
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We should be voting on the issues and who has plans and policies that will address our many challenges!
But remember, AND PLEASE DON’T FORGET, Americans elected bush…twice!
(Well, OK, they had to have help both times, but still…)
Does anyone know which candidate Diebold has endorsed?
Let’s NOT quit working hard. It is real important!
The organization, ‘catholicvote.com’ is not an official organization of the Catholic Church. THAT is what I suspected, and attempted to mention earlier.
Catholic-based is NOT Catholic… GET IT???
‘GOP frets about McCain’s strategy, prospects‘
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gLBaEUjMtevno3eCncjjLYuozYVgD93P69GG0
“Several Republicans, who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid angering McCain, said the campaign should have sought to plant doubts about Obama’s associations with 1960s-era radical William Ayers and others months ago, rather than waiting until the campaign’s final weeks. Doing so now, they said, makes the 72-year-old McCain come off as angry, grouchy and desperate, playing into Democrats’ hands.”
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Ayers is old news, and was covered during the democratic primary.
According to many people who have “associated” with McCain, he is an “angry, grouchy” old man.
And now, with Obama leading and only 20+ days left (ignoring early voting), McCain is “desperate”.
Obama Tells Tax-Burdened Plumber the Plan is to ‘Spread the Wealth Around’…
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html
The damn socialist/communist!!!
In other words take it from the people that rightfully earn it and give it to those that don’t to buy their votes. What a country…..NOT!
We now know am much about Ayers as about Palin.
Bigot: A Conservative Winning
An Argument with a Liberal
Guns don’t kill people,
Abortion Clinics kill people
When guns are outlawed
I’ll be an Outlaw
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28310
DavidB posted October 13, 2008 at 10:06 pm
It’s McCain’s current political positions that matter.
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There are some other very important factors.
For example, does the candidate,
* carefully research different solutions to a problem? And the +/- consequences of those solutions?
* update opinions when conditions change, or s/he learns new facts?
* select the most qualified people to help on different issues?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Events
“Notable columnists include Ann Coulter and Robert Novak.”
cosmos, I hope you make a lot of money so you can supplement my income….spread the wealth.
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 13, 2008 at 11:03 pm | Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Events
“Notable columnists include Ann Coulter and Robert Novak.”
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I am actually surprised you researched the link cosmos, I knew it was biased when I posted it…I was under no delusion.
Night all…
I totally dig the Scream icon for this thread. It is so fitting.
Cosmos, are you the man holding the stick?
http://vwkombi.com/photos/beetle-bash-bug-jam-etc/Pages/20.html
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Political_mama
Posted October 13, 2008 at 11:09 pm | Permalink
I totally dig the Scream icon for this thread. It is so fitting.
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I agree PM, in fact it could have been a pic of colorful vomit swirling down the toilet.
I find the artist paintings a kin to a mind of a pile of wire coat hangers.
OK, I will let you lib krickets alone, good night.
So I was told by one of ‘yours’.
“Catholic-based is NOT Catholic… GET IT???”
That it’s Catholic is good enough for me.
I don’t see the Pope, or anyone else, distancing themselves from them or what they say.
They are Catholic.
Night all.
ANTI posted October 13, 2008 at 11:06 pm
I am actually surprised you researched the link cosmos, I knew it was biased when I posted it.
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It’s a favorite source of your dear friend, “Kansas values” Regular.
Regular adds false, fictional paragraphs to his copy/pastes, to support his indefensible opinions.
And it takes very little effort to type “human events” into the wiki search box.
Cosmos, I have not met Regular so I would not call him my ‘dear friend’, no offense to Regular. But again, cosmos, your social awkwardness is showing and lack of humor.
By the way, hope you cats are doing well, I have a reclaimed feline myself.
Boxlicker, you are sooo obtuse!! That is NOT a Catholic organization… They SELL stuff to Catholics!! Guess you cant READ either!!
Oh well…. nothing new there!!
you cats=your cats
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!
so mote it be!!
Chas, can you bless my bullets and arrows for a successful hunt as a pastor to feed my family?
ANTI,
Both you and “Kansas values(sic)” use humanevents as a source.
And you can’t “reclaim” cats, you can only share some time with them.
I will check your response to my request monyanna senior Chas. May your family be safe from the coyote, and your soul be free from the owl….and your mind free from the droppings of the fowl..pollo cullo..eh essay?
Both you and “Kansas values(sic)” use humanevents as a source.
And you can’t “reclaim” cats, you can only share some time with them.
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I stand corrected on the cats, ha ha!
However I use ’stumble upon’ and came across that list…I admit I am familiar with human events and do not use it generally as a source, but found the list to be true and humorous.
Cosmos, if one had hide as thick as an elephant, I believe one could corral a cat into submission!
I however only have tuff skin…and lots of scars… :)
ANTI,
I hadn’t clicked your 10:46 pm link, but you really do seem to have a “bumper sticker” mentality.
‘Top 10 Conservative Bumper Stickers – HUMAN EVENTS’
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28310
Obama’s tax cut for 95% of Americans is an illusion? Reeeeaaaly?
Yup.
From the WSJ:
“One of Barack Obama’s most potent campaign claims is that he’ll cut taxes for no less than 95% of “working families.” He’s even promising to cut taxes enough that the government’s tax share of GDP will be no more than 18.2% — which is lower than it is today.
“It’s a clever pitch, because it lets him pose as a middle-class tax cutter while disguising that he’s also proposing one of the largest tax increases ever on the other 5%. But how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all? There are several sleights of hand, but the most creative is to redefine the meaning of “tax cut.”
“For the Obama Democrats, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. In their lexicon, a tax cut includes tens of billions of dollars in government handouts that are disguised by the phrase “tax credit.” Mr. Obama is proposing to create or expand no fewer than seven such credits for individuals”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=djemEditorialPage
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But it’s not wealth redistribution. Nah. It’s a “tax cut.” Riiiiiiight.
In any other world there would be another word: Pandering. Vote-buying. Bribery. Choose your term of art.
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 14, 2008 at 12:03 am | Permalink
ANTI,
I hadn’t clicked your 10:46 pm link, but you really do seem to have a “bumper sticker” mentality.
‘Top 10 Conservative Bumper Stickers – HUMAN EVENTS’
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28310
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Yeah, you did click it, otherwise you wouldn’t have gotten the ‘Top 10 Conservative Bumper Stickers’
good night Cosmos
Herr Obama? More likely than you think.
And on this blog Democrats claim (without basis) to actually believe in the 1st Amendment.
From Investors Business Daily:
Should Barack Obama win the presidency and the Democrats control Congress, as now seems likely, they will launch a full-scale war to drive critics — especially on political talk radio — right out of legitimate public debate.
. . .
A Democrat-controlled Washington will use sweeping new rules to shush conservative political speech. For starters, expect a real push to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.
True, Obama says he isn’t in favor of re-imposing this regulation, which, until Ronald Reagan’s FCC junked it in the ’80s, required broadcasters to give airtime to opposing viewpoints or face fines or even loss of license. But most top Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, are revved up about the idea, and it’s hard to imagine Obama vetoing a new doctrine if Congress delivers him one.
Make no mistake: a new Fairness Doctrine would vaporize political talk radio, the one major medium dominated by the right. If a station ran a successful conservative program like, say, Mark Levin’s, it would also have to run a left-leaning alternative, even if — as with Air America and all other liberal efforts in the medium to date — it can’t find any listeners or sponsors.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=308354689539729
Of course, gutting the 1st amendment is the whole point, isn’t it?
Yup. But it’s for “our own good,” we’re told. To promote “fairness.” Riiiiiiiight.
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GMC70
Posted October 14, 2008 at 12:04 am | Permalink
Obama’s tax cut for 95% of Americans is an illusion? Reeeeaaaly?
Yup.
From the WSJ:
“One of Barack Obama’s most potent campaign claims is that he’ll cut taxes for no less than 95% of “working families.” He’s even promising to cut taxes enough that the government’s tax share of GDP will be no more than 18.2% — which is lower than it is today.
“It’s a clever pitch, because it lets him pose as a middle-class tax cutter while disguising that he’s also proposing one of the largest tax increases ever on the other 5%. But how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all? There are several sleights of hand, but the most creative is to redefine the meaning of “tax cut.”
“For the Obama Democrats, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. In their lexicon, a tax cut includes tens of billions of dollars in government handouts that are disguised by the phrase “tax credit.” Mr. Obama is proposing to create or expand no fewer than seven such credits for individuals”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=djemEditorialPage
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But it’s not wealth redistribution. Nah. It’s a “tax cut.” Riiiiiiight.
In any other world there would be another word: Pandering. Vote-buying. Bribery. Choose your term of art.
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I look forward to spending CraponAmerica’s money he’ll be donating for the common good.
(chortles)
GMC — I am surprised at you!! You of all persons, should be most aware that the fairness doctrine never did require minute for minute, or hour for hour response time.
It only required RESPONSE time….
The only time that a station could LOSE its license is in that rare occasion when the station would DENY a fair response time. I do not personally know of any station that ever lost a license due to denial of response time.
So…. as an attorney, and public servant, would you care to revise/extend your comments above??? Or not??
“GMC70″ –
Since the Federal Communications Act of 1937 ’til Reagan abolished the Fairness Doctrine, broadcasters operated with no problem whatsoever.
Remember the “Editorial Response” bit Johnny Carson used to do?
Even when the General Manager of the local television station gave one of those “We’re in Favor of Springtime!” “editorials” at thed end of the Sunday night newscast, the station was obligated to let some screwball have the opportunity to give a “Springtime: Threat? Or Menace?” response.
So what?
It was never “equal time,” with someone and a stopwatch making sure every nano-second of opinion be matched with an opposing view.
Frankly, I think Rush Limbaugh’s show would be enhanced if a renewed Fairness Doctrine meant he had face a debate instead of his monologues.
The central philosophy of the Federal Communications Act of 1937 was that the airwaves are a common, and limited resource of the nation.
Joe Pyne was a crazy conservative talk show host back in the days of the Fairness Doctrine. Had a fine career even if he had to, under the Fairness Doctrine, occasionally meet up with people such as Frank Zappa.
A Classic Joe Pine moment. (Pine had a leg amputated after being wounded in WWII.)
Anyway,
PYNE to ZAPPA: You have long hair! Are you a woman?!
ZAPPA to PYNE: You have a wooden leg. Are you a table?
If Obama’s tax cuts for individuals are “Hand outs,” what are they when McCain promises them for oil companies?
God bless Frank Zappa!!!!!
So…. as an attorney, and public servant, would you care to revise/extend your comments above??? Or not??
Chas, I’ll say this once, and only once: Absolutely not.
The drive to reimpose the “fairness” doctrine has nothing to do with fairness, and everything to do with silencing voices democrats don’t like. That’s absolutely transparent to anyone without a self-imposed blindfold. But you go on and parrot the party line, like the fool you are.
Oh, and I never said it required minute by minute response.
Hey Monkey… GMC thinks we are both fools!!
You want to tell him off, or you want me to do it???
BTW, GMC, you want to PROVE what you say here, or do just want to exude stupidity??
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=308354689539729
Anderson is editor of City Journal and co-author, with Adam Thierer, of “A Manifesto for Media Freedom,” just out from Encounter.
I can’t “exude stupidity,” Chas. You have the market cornered and sewn up on that.
Chas
Posted October 14, 2008 at 9:49 am | Permalink
Hey Monkey… GMC thinks we are both fools!!
You want to tell him off, or you want me to do it???
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So now you want to shut up GMC for telling the truth. Will the left never give up with this unfairness doctrine thing?
Hey Monkey a new concept. Sell your idea for a radio show. Sell the advertising necessary to air it and then go for it. If it flys then you will be as rich as Rush someday. If not you can always go back to blogging all day.
Oh wait that is the story of your life to this point isn’t it?
After Obama does his half hour in prime time, the repubs will be crying about the Fairness issue.
Heh Phantom. They wont be crying about the Fairness, they’ll be crying because they dont have enough money to buy their own half hour.
I read today that the RNC is taking out a five MILLION dollar line of credit to help the down ballot candidates in states where mcCoot is getting his old ass kicked.
Can you say “bake sale”?
heheheh. HEEE HEE HEE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
“okobserver” tries –
“Hey Monkey a new concept. Sell your idea for a radio show. Sell the advertising necessary to air it and then go for it….”
Funny you should mention that.
It’s not a “new” concept.
I’ve pitched such a business relationship to several commercial stations. I’ve said I’ll do it a 3 in the morning on Sunday night and I had commitments from sponsors who would make more money than they ever got for a weekend middle-of-the-night hour.
And the execs, from Clear Channel to mom & pops, generally responded, “If you’d make a difference, we’d lose other advertisers.”
I said, “If I don’t make a difference, you get revenue from a non-producing couple of hours.”
They said, “We can’t take the chance.”
Corporations are, by their very nature, are conservative. Not just (but frequently) politically. During my advertising career I dealt with all sorts of corporate types who didn’t want to do the right thing if it meant there might be a chance in hell it could turn out to be the “wrong” thing to someone somewhere.
I’ve done television and, since I’ve become old and ugly, it’s probably not my best medium. I’ve looked into doing, basically, a radio talk-show on public access cable. Did it for about 18 months with one cable and they kept moving the goalposts. “Make it more visual.” “We can’t provide a crew” (although their franchise specifically says they should.), can’t do it live; has to be on tape….
What the Federal Communications Act of 1937 was based on was that the airwaves are a resource common to all people. The Fairness Doctrine simply offered access to opposing views.
Not “equal time.” Simply access to the air.
Think about that for a moment.
“Access to air.”
There would be nothing preventing Limbaugh from getting his $35 million a year from his corporate sponsors if he were required to have someone on his show every once in a while who didn’t agree with him. Unless he’s afraid of them.
I’ve gone head-to-head on the air with John Ashcroft, Kit Bond, Sam Brownback, the guy who claimed Bill Clinton was a cocaine trafficker (he was amazing, and went on to claim that Clinton’s boss in the Mena “scandal” was George H.W. Bush!)….
I’ve talked to some CONs who I generally get along with in social situations — although we disagree — and have suggested they sell a kind of point-counterpoint show.
And mostly I get responses that are variations of my producer at KPHN who said, “You’re making the Republicans look bad.”
I’m fully aware of this disdain CONs have for me in this forum. I can’t remember an actual discussion that debates the issues at hand. Rarely do their attacks go intellectually past “MonkeyHock.”
There’s no self-aggrandizement on my part anymore. Limbaugh and O’Reilly and Beck and Hannity and Coulter and all the others are makin’ a fine living preaching to the choir.
They don’t want anyone singing harmony.
And mostly I get responses that are variations of my producer at KPHN who said, “You’re making the Republicans look bad.”
And we should believe you on this score, given your behavior on this forum, why, exactly? Your one specific example of your ’style’ of interviewing you shared on this forum was enough for me to have fired you on the spot, had I been your boss. No wonder you can’t stay on the air.
I’m fully aware of this disdain CONs have for me in this forum. I can’t remember an actual discussion that debates the issues at hand. Rarely do their attacks go intellectually past “MonkeyHock.”
Riiiiiiight. You willfully forget the several times I’ve personally – intellectually – taken you to school. How convenient.
Sorry, MH. Ain’t buying it.