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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-446007</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yea, Boxlicker, I do…. I offer people a message of hope… And people, except for the likes of you and your kind, are EAGER to follow the Vision of HOPE…&quot;
....the fake preacher Chas

Oh, and Chas just what &quot;message of hope&quot; do you offer?  What is that hope based on?  Where can your &#039;flock&#039; derive it&#039;s hope from.  From the Biblical GOD of Abraham, Isac and Jacob, or from a god conjured up in their own mind, a god made in man&#039;s image instead of the other way around, as you indicate every night, I quote, &quot;whatver you conceive god to be…&quot;.
Please explain these things for me and us all.
If you have a message of hope please share it here, I&#039;m sure we are all interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yea, Boxlicker, I do…. I offer people a message of hope… And people, except for the likes of you and your kind, are EAGER to follow the Vision of HOPE…&#8221;<br />
&#8230;.the fake preacher Chas</p>
<p>Oh, and Chas just what &#8220;message of hope&#8221; do you offer?  What is that hope based on?  Where can your &#8216;flock&#8217; derive it&#8217;s hope from.  From the Biblical GOD of Abraham, Isac and Jacob, or from a god conjured up in their own mind, a god made in man&#8217;s image instead of the other way around, as you indicate every night, I quote, &#8220;whatver you conceive god to be…&#8221;.<br />
Please explain these things for me and us all.<br />
If you have a message of hope please share it here, I&#8217;m sure we are all interested.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenEDavis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445973</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenEDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>outlander:

&quot;The miracle is that McCain is hanging close in some polls.&quot;

The most truthful statement ever uttered, uh, typed, by outlander.  What does it mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>outlander:</p>
<p>&#8220;The miracle is that McCain is hanging close in some polls.&#8221;</p>
<p>The most truthful statement ever uttered, uh, typed, by outlander.  What does it mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445966</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Editor in Chief, The National Review
A Conservative for Obama by Wick Allison. 
  
My party has slipped its moorings.  It&#039;s time for a true pragmatist to lead the country.
  
THE MORE I LISTEN TO AND READ ABOUT &quot;the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate,&quot; the more I like him. Barack Obama strikes a chord with
me like no political figure since Ronald Reagan. To explain why, I need to explain why I am a conservative and what it means to me.
  
In 1964, at the age of 16, I organized the Dallas County Youth for Goldwater. My senior thesis at the University of Texas was on the conservative intellectual revival in America. Twenty years
later, I was invited by William F. Buckley Jr. to join the board of National Review. I later became its publisher.
  
Conservatism to me is less a political philosophy than a stance, a recognition of the fallibility of man and of man&#039;s institutions. Conservatives respect the past not for its antiquity but because it represents, as G.K. Chesterton said, the democracy of the dead; it gives the benefit of the doubt to customs and laws tried and tested in the crucible of time. Conservatives are skeptical of abstract theories and utopian schemes, doubtful that government is wiser than its citizens, and always ready to test any political program against actual results.
  
Liberalism always seemed to me to be a system of &quot;oughts.&quot; We ought to do this or that because it&#039;s the right thing to do, regardless of whether it works or not. It is a doctrine based on intentions, not results, on feeling good rather than doing good.
  
But today it is so-called conservatives who are cemented to political programs when they clearly don&#039;t work. The Bush tax cuts-a solution for which there was no real problem and which he refused to end even when the nation went to war-led to huge deficit spending and a $3trillion growth in the federal debt. Facing this, John McCain pumps his conservative&quot; credentials by proposing even bigger tax cuts.  Meanwhile, a movement that once fought for limited government has presided over the greatest growth of government in our history. That is not conservatism; it is profligacy using conservatism as a mask.

Today it is conservatives, not liberals, who talk with alarming bellicosity about making the world &quot;safe for democracy.&quot; It is John McCain who says America&#039;s job is to &quot;defeat evil,&quot; a theological expansion of the nation&#039;s mission that would make George Washington cough out his wooden teeth.
  
This kind of conservatism, which is not conservative at all, has produced financial mismanagement, the waste of human lives, the loss of moral authority, and the wreckage of our economy that McCain now threatens to make worse.
  
Barack Obama is not my ideal candidate for president. (In fact, I made the maximum donation to John McCain during the primaries, when there was still hope he might come to his senses.) But I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history. I disagree with him on many issues. But those don&#039;t matter as much as what Obama offers, which is a deeply conservative view of the world. Nobody can read Obama&#039;s books (which, it is worth noting, he wrote himself) or listen to him speak without realizing that this is a thoughtful, pragmatic, and prudent man. It gives me comfort just to think that after eight years of George W. Bush we will have a president who has actually read the Federalist Papers.
  
Most important, Obama will be a realist. I doubt he will taunt Russia, as McCain has, at the very moment when our national interest requires it an ally. the crucial distinction in my mind is that, unlike John McCain, I am convinced he will hot impulsively take us into another war unless American national interests are directly threatened.
  
&quot;Every great cause,&quot; Eric Hoffer wrote, &quot;begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.&quot; As a cause, conservatism may be dead. But as a stance, as a way of making judgments in a complex and difficult world.  I believe it is very much alive in the instincts and predispositions of a liberal named Barack Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editor in Chief, The National Review<br />
A Conservative for Obama by Wick Allison. </p>
<p>My party has slipped its moorings.  It&#8217;s time for a true pragmatist to lead the country.</p>
<p>THE MORE I LISTEN TO AND READ ABOUT &#8220;the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate,&#8221; the more I like him. Barack Obama strikes a chord with<br />
me like no political figure since Ronald Reagan. To explain why, I need to explain why I am a conservative and what it means to me.</p>
<p>In 1964, at the age of 16, I organized the Dallas County Youth for Goldwater. My senior thesis at the University of Texas was on the conservative intellectual revival in America. Twenty years<br />
later, I was invited by William F. Buckley Jr. to join the board of National Review. I later became its publisher.</p>
<p>Conservatism to me is less a political philosophy than a stance, a recognition of the fallibility of man and of man&#8217;s institutions. Conservatives respect the past not for its antiquity but because it represents, as G.K. Chesterton said, the democracy of the dead; it gives the benefit of the doubt to customs and laws tried and tested in the crucible of time. Conservatives are skeptical of abstract theories and utopian schemes, doubtful that government is wiser than its citizens, and always ready to test any political program against actual results.</p>
<p>Liberalism always seemed to me to be a system of &#8220;oughts.&#8221; We ought to do this or that because it&#8217;s the right thing to do, regardless of whether it works or not. It is a doctrine based on intentions, not results, on feeling good rather than doing good.</p>
<p>But today it is so-called conservatives who are cemented to political programs when they clearly don&#8217;t work. The Bush tax cuts-a solution for which there was no real problem and which he refused to end even when the nation went to war-led to huge deficit spending and a $3trillion growth in the federal debt. Facing this, John McCain pumps his conservative&#8221; credentials by proposing even bigger tax cuts.  Meanwhile, a movement that once fought for limited government has presided over the greatest growth of government in our history. That is not conservatism; it is profligacy using conservatism as a mask.</p>
<p>Today it is conservatives, not liberals, who talk with alarming bellicosity about making the world &#8220;safe for democracy.&#8221; It is John McCain who says America&#8217;s job is to &#8220;defeat evil,&#8221; a theological expansion of the nation&#8217;s mission that would make George Washington cough out his wooden teeth.</p>
<p>This kind of conservatism, which is not conservative at all, has produced financial mismanagement, the waste of human lives, the loss of moral authority, and the wreckage of our economy that McCain now threatens to make worse.</p>
<p>Barack Obama is not my ideal candidate for president. (In fact, I made the maximum donation to John McCain during the primaries, when there was still hope he might come to his senses.) But I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history. I disagree with him on many issues. But those don&#8217;t matter as much as what Obama offers, which is a deeply conservative view of the world. Nobody can read Obama&#8217;s books (which, it is worth noting, he wrote himself) or listen to him speak without realizing that this is a thoughtful, pragmatic, and prudent man. It gives me comfort just to think that after eight years of George W. Bush we will have a president who has actually read the Federalist Papers.</p>
<p>Most important, Obama will be a realist. I doubt he will taunt Russia, as McCain has, at the very moment when our national interest requires it an ally. the crucial distinction in my mind is that, unlike John McCain, I am convinced he will hot impulsively take us into another war unless American national interests are directly threatened.</p>
<p>&#8220;Every great cause,&#8221; Eric Hoffer wrote, &#8220;begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.&#8221; As a cause, conservatism may be dead. But as a stance, as a way of making judgments in a complex and difficult world.  I believe it is very much alive in the instincts and predispositions of a liberal named Barack Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445963</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos_originally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RoaCH posted October 12, 2008 at 10:48 pm

Cosmos, can you prove your statement: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists
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1) It&#039;s NOT my &quot;statement&quot;

&#039;&lt;b&gt;What the Troopergate Report Really Says&lt;/b&gt;’
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html
“But even though she won’t likely face any legal repercussions, &lt;b&gt;the amateurism and cronyism of her brief administration hardly leaves Palin sitting pretty&lt;/b&gt;. Troopergate’s final verdict may be even more damaging than a rebuke: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists she hopes to unseat.”
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2) Read the Troopergate report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RoaCH posted October 12, 2008 at 10:48 pm</p>
<p>Cosmos, can you prove your statement: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>1) It&#8217;s NOT my &#8220;statement&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;<b>What the Troopergate Report Really Says</b>’<br />
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html</a><br />
“But even though she won’t likely face any legal repercussions, <b>the amateurism and cronyism of her brief administration hardly leaves Palin sitting pretty</b>. Troopergate’s final verdict may be even more damaging than a rebuke: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists she hopes to unseat.”<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>2) Read the Troopergate report.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445962</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos_originally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that a recent new representative of the Republican Party &quot;&lt;b&gt;family values&lt;/b&gt;&quot; has left the WE Blog after only a few short hours of posting.

A repost, in her memory. . .

CosmosNewandImproved posted October 9, 2008 at 9:31 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1009/#comment-443652

How does your goodbye greeting go Chas?

Something like this:

Good night.
Good luck.
God bless.
And may you all
get &lt;b&gt;f*cked&lt;/b&gt;.

And may you wear out
more &lt;b&gt;p*ssy&lt;/b&gt; then hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that a recent new representative of the Republican Party &#8220;<b>family values</b>&#8221; has left the WE Blog after only a few short hours of posting.</p>
<p>A repost, in her memory. . .</p>
<p>CosmosNewandImproved posted October 9, 2008 at 9:31 pm<br />
<a href="http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1009/#comment-443652" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1009/#comment-443652</a></p>
<p>How does your goodbye greeting go Chas?</p>
<p>Something like this:</p>
<p>Good night.<br />
Good luck.<br />
God bless.<br />
And may you all<br />
get <b>f*cked</b>.</p>
<p>And may you wear out<br />
more <b>p*ssy</b> then hand.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445961</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And HANK weighed in under &quot;HD&quot;

   We don&#039;t hear enough from hank as the right sinks.

   &quot;BlueJay and his like are not willing to work as hard as you describe, but he wants what you have earned. Sick!&quot;

    But you and roach do not work Boxlock. Well, you don&#039;t make anything anyway. And no I am not willing to suck off the labor of others for my living as YOU do. I make my own way WHILE helping others.

    It is a great time in America. Maybe the best time I have known in my life.

   America is ready and willing to embrace new ideas and challenges. No it WON&#039;T come without some pain but nothing worthy ever does. This will be hard on the rich to get richer folk. But who cares about them anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And HANK weighed in under &#8220;HD&#8221;</p>
<p>   We don&#8217;t hear enough from hank as the right sinks.</p>
<p>   &#8220;BlueJay and his like are not willing to work as hard as you describe, but he wants what you have earned. Sick!&#8221;</p>
<p>    But you and roach do not work Boxlock. Well, you don&#8217;t make anything anyway. And no I am not willing to suck off the labor of others for my living as YOU do. I make my own way WHILE helping others.</p>
<p>    It is a great time in America. Maybe the best time I have known in my life.</p>
<p>   America is ready and willing to embrace new ideas and challenges. No it WON&#8217;T come without some pain but nothing worthy ever does. This will be hard on the rich to get richer folk. But who cares about them anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445960</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos_originally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HDChaplainCorps posted October 12, 2008 at 11:09 pm

&quot;... and being a patent liar. Or professional liar whichever fits.&quot;
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The WE Blog&#039;s patent and/or professional liar is definitely &lt;b&gt;multi-nic&#039;d&lt;/b&gt;, &quot;Kansas values&quot;(sic) &lt;b&gt;Regular&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HDChaplainCorps posted October 12, 2008 at 11:09 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; and being a patent liar. Or professional liar whichever fits.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>The WE Blog&#8217;s patent and/or professional liar is definitely <b>multi-nic&#8217;d</b>, &#8220;Kansas values&#8221;(sic) <b>Regular</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445959</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Now the day is over; Night is  drawing nigh;
&lt;i&gt;Shadows of the evening;  steal across the sky&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now the day is over; Night is  drawing nigh;<br />
</i><i>Shadows of the evening;  steal across the sky</i></p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445958</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost  forgot  ----   It is nearing  the  time  of  the  great  Fall  Festival,  of  the  Feast of  All Saints,  the  day  after  All  Hallows  Eve.... 

Let  all prepare  for  the  feast  by  gathering  fall  produce,  and  baking  goods...   For  the  Pastafarians,  this  means  getting  ready  to  prepare the  spaghetti  squash;  and  make  ready  a  fine  fall  tomato  sauce,  flavored  with your  choice of  flavorings....  meat;  spices;  cheeses;  etc.,  etc.

Happy  Holidays!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost  forgot  &#8212;-   It is nearing  the  time  of  the  great  Fall  Festival,  of  the  Feast of  All Saints,  the  day  after  All  Hallows  Eve&#8230;. </p>
<p>Let  all prepare  for  the  feast  by  gathering  fall  produce,  and  baking  goods&#8230;   For  the  Pastafarians,  this  means  getting  ready  to  prepare the  spaghetti  squash;  and  make  ready  a  fine  fall  tomato  sauce,  flavored  with your  choice of  flavorings&#8230;.  meat;  spices;  cheeses;  etc.,  etc.</p>
<p>Happy  Holidays!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445957</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain tussles with Palin over whipping up a mob mentality 
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4926283.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain tussles with Palin over whipping up a mob mentality<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4926283.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new&#8230;cle4926283.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445954</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems  that  the  gibberish  you  speak of  is your  OWN  gibberish,   SALES  DUDE....  

BlueJay
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm &#124; Permalink
I get it Boxlock.

Your concern for your fellow man hinges on your own personal wealth.

YOU first.

Boxlock
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm &#124; Permalink
You damn right BlueJay, you damn right.
And until you lift yourself up you will never be anything but a drag on the rest of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems  that  the  gibberish  you  speak of  is your  OWN  gibberish,   SALES  DUDE&#8230;.  </p>
<p>BlueJay<br />
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm | Permalink<br />
I get it Boxlock.</p>
<p>Your concern for your fellow man hinges on your own personal wealth.</p>
<p>YOU first.</p>
<p>Boxlock<br />
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm | Permalink<br />
You damn right BlueJay, you damn right.<br />
And until you lift yourself up you will never be anything but a drag on the rest of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445953</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RoaCH,
We need to simply face it, BlueJay and his like are &lt;b&gt;not willing to work as hard as you describe, but he wants what you have earned.  Sick!&lt;/b&gt;

Wanting to achieve is a habit with me by now, I worked full time and went to school at the same time until I was about crazy.  But I&#039;ve gotten pretty much where I wanted to go.  Not real far for myself, but my kids are both Master educated, one a structural engineer with an MBA, and the other a Physician&#039;s Assistant Instructor with a Masters.  That&#039;s what I wanted to be able to provide.  They did the work, I paid tuition and books and living expenses during their undergraduate time.
We are wasting our time...they seem unable to even comprehend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RoaCH,<br />
We need to simply face it, BlueJay and his like are <b>not willing to work as hard as you describe, but he wants what you have earned.  Sick!</b></p>
<p>Wanting to achieve is a habit with me by now, I worked full time and went to school at the same time until I was about crazy.  But I&#8217;ve gotten pretty much where I wanted to go.  Not real far for myself, but my kids are both Master educated, one a structural engineer with an MBA, and the other a Physician&#8217;s Assistant Instructor with a Masters.  That&#8217;s what I wanted to be able to provide.  They did the work, I paid tuition and books and living expenses during their undergraduate time.<br />
We are wasting our time&#8230;they seem unable to even comprehend.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445952</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlueJay
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm &#124; Permalink
I get it Boxlock.

Your concern for your fellow man hinges on your own personal wealth.

YOU first.

Boxlock
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm &#124; Permalink
You damn right BlueJay, you damn right.
And until you lift yourself up you will never be anything but a drag on the rest of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlueJay<br />
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm | Permalink<br />
I get it Boxlock.</p>
<p>Your concern for your fellow man hinges on your own personal wealth.</p>
<p>YOU first.</p>
<p>Boxlock<br />
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm | Permalink<br />
You damn right BlueJay, you damn right.<br />
And until you lift yourself up you will never be anything but a drag on the rest of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445951</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See? It&#039;s right there.

    &quot;There are peers and coworkers, and some who work on my staff - for me. &quot;

    PRIDE in personal authority over someone else and their labor.

    &quot;But I never looked up or looked down at other workers the way you do.&quot;

   Uh yeah. You just...did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See? It&#8217;s right there.</p>
<p>    &#8220;There are peers and coworkers, and some who work on my staff &#8211; for me. &#8221;</p>
<p>    PRIDE in personal authority over someone else and their labor.</p>
<p>    &#8220;But I never looked up or looked down at other workers the way you do.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Uh yeah. You just&#8230;did.</p>
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		<title>By: HDChaplainCorps</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445950</link>
		<dc:creator>HDChaplainCorps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing ordained of Chas is his potty mouth and being a patent liar. Or professional liar whichever fits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing ordained of Chas is his potty mouth and being a patent liar. Or professional liar whichever fits.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445949</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its  been a  very  long  week....   and  so....  

good night;  good luck;  god  bless   ----
whatver you  conceive  god  to  be....

blessings  ALL!!

blessings  on  this  Nation....

so mote it  be!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its  been a  very  long  week&#8230;.   and  so&#8230;.  </p>
<p>good night;  good luck;  god  bless   &#8212;-<br />
whatver you  conceive  god  to  be&#8230;.</p>
<p>blessings  ALL!!</p>
<p>blessings  on  this  Nation&#8230;.</p>
<p>so mote it  be!!</p>
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		<title>By: HDChaplainCorps</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445948</link>
		<dc:creator>HDChaplainCorps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Reverend holiness Chas!

Is it getting close to your annual Christmas Tidings and rant? About time to start posting daily how &quot;busy you are&quot; with church and getting the place ready for all those Christmas services.

About time for you to start preaching to us all on the wonders of Christmas, how holy it is, and how wonderful you feel at that time of the year.

In other words, about time for you to put on your plastic face and fac your way through the holidays.

Pretending to praise the birth of Jesus Christ, but blog everynight spitting hate, evil, name-calling, and profanity.

Is that the Chas we all remember?

Liar. YOu are no priest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Reverend holiness Chas!</p>
<p>Is it getting close to your annual Christmas Tidings and rant? About time to start posting daily how &#8220;busy you are&#8221; with church and getting the place ready for all those Christmas services.</p>
<p>About time for you to start preaching to us all on the wonders of Christmas, how holy it is, and how wonderful you feel at that time of the year.</p>
<p>In other words, about time for you to put on your plastic face and fac your way through the holidays.</p>
<p>Pretending to praise the birth of Jesus Christ, but blog everynight spitting hate, evil, name-calling, and profanity.</p>
<p>Is that the Chas we all remember?</p>
<p>Liar. YOu are no priest.</p>
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		<title>By: RoaCH</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445945</link>
		<dc:creator>RoaCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlueJay says:
But I bet you enjoy benefits off the labor of others, don’t you?

Where does this kind of thinking come from? Were you put in chains and whipped as a young child on some awful production line?

Golly gee BlueJay, I studied hard in school, paid my own way through college, got an entry level job in my profession and earned a reputation as a hard worker and became highly skilled at what I do.

I make very good money (I am thankful for that), and have raised my children to be contributing and independent self-sufficient adults.

I never looked at my employer as &quot;the man&quot; or the &quot;bad guy&quot; or the &quot;evil corporation&quot; out to work me to death.

I was just damn glad I got jobs and earned respect, and advancement.

There are peers and coworkers, and some who work on my staff - for me. But I never looked up or looked down at other workers the way you do.

What causes that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlueJay says:<br />
But I bet you enjoy benefits off the labor of others, don’t you?</p>
<p>Where does this kind of thinking come from? Were you put in chains and whipped as a young child on some awful production line?</p>
<p>Golly gee BlueJay, I studied hard in school, paid my own way through college, got an entry level job in my profession and earned a reputation as a hard worker and became highly skilled at what I do.</p>
<p>I make very good money (I am thankful for that), and have raised my children to be contributing and independent self-sufficient adults.</p>
<p>I never looked at my employer as &#8220;the man&#8221; or the &#8220;bad guy&#8221; or the &#8220;evil corporation&#8221; out to work me to death.</p>
<p>I was just damn glad I got jobs and earned respect, and advancement.</p>
<p>There are peers and coworkers, and some who work on my staff &#8211; for me. But I never looked up or looked down at other workers the way you do.</p>
<p>What causes that?</p>
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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445944</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I come to one of your &#039;services&#039; will you introduce me as &quot;boxlicker&quot;?
What a fake!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I come to one of your &#8217;services&#8217; will you introduce me as &#8220;boxlicker&#8221;?<br />
What a fake!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445943</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s &#039;use the same language&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s &#8216;use the same language&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445942</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bye the way Chas, do you the same language in your &#039;sermons&#039; as you do here....or are you a two faced hypocrite?  One of the two!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bye the way Chas, do you the same language in your &#8217;sermons&#8217; as you do here&#8230;.or are you a two faced hypocrite?  One of the two!</p>
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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445941</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, let me sell you some hope and pass the hat.  Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, let me sell you some hope and pass the hat.  Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445940</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;boxlicker is most to be pitied… he finally says straight forward, he cares nothing about himself, and his own personal wealth!!&quot;

I can&#039;t even follow that gibberish.

Chas, a begger has very little to give to anyone, and had never offered a job to anyone.

Notice how the fake preacher had now reverted to using profane language....&quot;boxlicker&quot;.
&lt;b&gt;I&#039;ve WON!!!&lt;/b&gt;

Oh, and Chas, I call you by your chosen nic, calling you a fake preacher is a description and a truism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;boxlicker is most to be pitied… he finally says straight forward, he cares nothing about himself, and his own personal wealth!!&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even follow that gibberish.</p>
<p>Chas, a begger has very little to give to anyone, and had never offered a job to anyone.</p>
<p>Notice how the fake preacher had now reverted to using profane language&#8230;.&#8221;boxlicker&#8221;.<br />
<b>I&#8217;ve WON!!!</b></p>
<p>Oh, and Chas, I call you by your chosen nic, calling you a fake preacher is a description and a truism.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445939</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea,  Boxlicker,  I  do....   I offer  people  a  message of hope...   And  people,  except  for  the likes of  you  and  your kind,  are   EAGER  to  follow  the  Vision of  HOPE....  

You???   All you  want is  the  next  SALE.... 

How  sad....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea,  Boxlicker,  I  do&#8230;.   I offer  people  a  message of hope&#8230;   And  people,  except  for  the likes of  you  and  your kind,  are   EAGER  to  follow  the  Vision of  HOPE&#8230;.  </p>
<p>You???   All you  want is  the  next  SALE&#8230;. </p>
<p>How  sad&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445936</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And  Boxlicker  proves  once  again  that its  all about  HIM  (in his own narrow  mind)   ----  Claiming now  to  be  a  mind  controller  of  a  salesman....   Dont  that  make you  PROUD  of your  sorry  self???   I  got news for you,  old  coot....   YOU  dont  plant anything in  the  mind of  the  buyer  ---  unless you  are  selling  your  products  to  mentally  ill  people....   people  who  can  be  persuaded  by  ANYthing,  or  ANYbody.....   How  sweet of you  for  making  that  confession  of your  sales  philosophy!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And  Boxlicker  proves  once  again  that its  all about  HIM  (in his own narrow  mind)   &#8212;-  Claiming now  to  be  a  mind  controller  of  a  salesman&#8230;.   Dont  that  make you  PROUD  of your  sorry  self???   I  got news for you,  old  coot&#8230;.   YOU  dont  plant anything in  the  mind of  the  buyer  &#8212;  unless you  are  selling  your  products  to  mentally  ill  people&#8230;.   people  who  can  be  persuaded  by  ANYthing,  or  ANYbody&#8230;..   How  sweet of you  for  making  that  confession  of your  sales  philosophy!!</p>
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