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Once again, more scientific evidence for the irrefutable fact of evolution. Creationists claim they have scientific evidence but as fundies do, they lie.
Gene Expression In Alligators Suggests Birds Have ‘Thumbs’
ScienceDaily (Oct. 6, 2008) — The latest breakthrough in a 120 year-old debate on the evolution of the bird wing was published in the open-access journal PLoS ONE, October 3, by Alexander Vargas and colleagues at Yale University, the University of Wisconsin-Madison and Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History.
Bird wings only have three fingers, having evolved from remote ancestors that, like humans and most reptiles, had five fingers. Biologists have typically used embryology to identify the evolutionary origin (homology) of structures; the three fingers of the bird wing develop from cartilage condensations that are found in the same positions in the embryo as fingers two, three and four of humans (the index, middle and ring fingers). However, the morphology of the fingers of early birds such as Archaeopteryx corresponds to that of fingers one, two and three in other reptiles (thumb, index and middle finger). The fossil record clearly shows that fingers four and five (ring and pinky finger) were lost and reduced in the dinosaur ancestors of birds.
More of real science at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081003122715.htm
Two days from now, the Full Moon, the October “Full Hunter’s Moon,” will be here. Of course, today, Sunday, October 12th, although still “waxing,” the moon will essentially look full.
We are privileged in that our Moon is among the seven or eight “large” moons in our solar system. Without checking, I believe Jupiter’s Ganneymede or Callista moons are a little larger.
Our Moon has a diameter of about 2,000 miles or about 1/4 the diameter of the Earth.
The Moon is not a tourist destination because it has no atmosphere, water, wind, weather or beer. It does have a footprint left by an astronaut back in the 1960’s.
So enjoy the Full Moon the next several evenings as it rises about the same time the Sun sets which is what makes it full each month.
Barring a dramatic change in the political landscape over the next three weeks, Democrats appear headed toward a decisive victory on Election Day that would give them broad power over the federal government.
The victory would send Barack Obama to the White House and give him larger Democratic majorities in both the House of Representatives and the Senate — and perhaps a filibuster-proof margin there.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/53771.html
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SWEET!
State Pollster Date 7-Day AVG
Obama McCain
49%=====44%=====FL
46%=====49%=====OH
46%=====48%=====NC
35%=====62%=====AL
54%=====41%=====IA
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/
The Ohio Newspaper Poll has McCain up by 2% in Ohio… that pushes Obama’s 7-day average advantage in the state to a mere 3%.
Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) — Democrat Barack Obama leads Republican presidential nominee John McCain in battleground states of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Minnesota, according to new polls.
Obama, an Illinois senator, leads 49 percent to 42 percent among Ohio voters, according to a Columbus Dispatch poll of 2,262 likely voters released yesterday.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aM6wSrKwniy4&refer=home
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Bye Bye Mccain/Palin
If the Dems can’t win this year, they can’t win. A perfect storm has blown in. The skooshy undecideds in the battleground states (the only voters who matter) who have been hearing the Obamian sheep bleating chaaannnge, just lost a lot of money in the stock market over the past couple of weeks. They won’t be blaming Obama.
The miracle is that McCain is hanging close in some polls.
Regular
You might want to see your doctor to get a prescription for some major drugs. I can see a major meltdown for you coming in the evening of November 4th when the citizens of this country overwhelmingly elect Obama-Biden. McCain will be making his concession speech by 10 EST.
You need to prepare yourself.
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Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted October 12, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink
Regular
You might want to see your doctor to get a prescription for some major drugs. I can see a major meltdown for you coming in the evening of November 4th when the citizens of this country overwhelmingly elect Obama-Biden. McCain will be making his concession speech by 10 EST.
You need to prepare yourself.
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You might want to post something about a subject instead of attacking other posters, which is what you usually do.
European Leaders Meet to Form Financial Crisis Response
“PARIS — European leaders meet Sunday in search of a common response to a spreading financial crisis that has ricocheted across the Atlantic to their shores and to try to preserve the bloc’s unity.
It could be a complex exercise for the 15 heads of state or government of the euro-zone, where the euro currency is used, because of the varied financial landscapes in each country.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, stressing the need for a synchronized response, said Saturday that a “common tool box” could be the outcome. Individual countries can use these “tools” to respond to their particular situation, she said.”
Fox News
Roberts, Tiahrt, and Brownback say the crisis can wait until the do some thorough research and offer a comprehensive solution to the so called crisis. Tic Toc Tic Toc.
c0smos
Posted October 12, 2008 at 8:34 am | Permalink
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Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted October 12, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink
Regular
You might want to see your doctor to get a prescription for some major drugs. I can see a major meltdown for you coming in the evening of November 4th when the citizens of this country overwhelmingly elect Obama-Biden. McCain will be making his concession speech by 10 EST.
You need to prepare yourself.
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You might want to post something about a subject instead of attacking other posters, which is what you usually do.
I see that Regular is using one of his “acquired” nics from the sign in requirement. You can deny it all you want, but since you have bragged that you stole Cosmo’s original nic and the use of the “0″ instead on an “O” really proves your true identity. You took his nic and as many permutations of said nic that you could dream up at the time.
This is very sad.
G.M. Said to Seek Merger With Ford Before Chrysler
By BILL VLASIC
Published: October 11, 2008
DETROIT — Before General Motors began exploring a possible merger with Chrysler — talks that first came to light on Friday — G. M. proposed a similar deal with its other cross-town rival, the Ford Motor Company, two people with knowledge of the talks said Saturday.
G. M. executives approached Ford about a possible merger in July, but Ford rejected the idea and ended the discussions last month, these people said.
After Ford decided to remain independent amid an increasingly difficult auto market, G. M. turned its attention to Chrysler. For the last month, it has been in preliminary merger talks with Chrysler’s owner, the private-equity firm Cerberus Capital Management.
People with knowledge of the talks described the chances of a deal as “50-50.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/business/12auto.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted October 12, 2008 at 8:39 am | Permalink
You might want to post something about a subject instead of attacking other posters, which is what you usually do.
I see that Regular is using one of his “acquired” nics from the sign in requirement. You can deny it all you want, but since you have bragged that you stole Cosmo’s original nic and the use of the “0? instead on an “O” really proves your true identity. You took his nic and as many permutations of said nic that you could dream up at the time.
This is very sad.
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Silly carbuncle excuse of a human being you are.
Great profiles of both candidates in today’s paper. Funny how McCain supporters want to focus on Obama’s supposed connection to a 60s radical, while ignoring the fact that McCain cheated on his disabled wife, whored around with strippers, graduated at the bottom of his class, and was a basic jerk for most of his life.
It’s clear when looking at the background of both men who is CLEARLY more qualified to lead the country.
And what I don’t get is why don’t Christians support the man who obviously has better values?
If Obama lead the sinful life McCain embraced, they’d be yelling from the rooftops about it.
Let’s see…do I vote for someone who graduated from a Naval academy at the bottom of his class..or someone who graduated from Havard at the top of his class?
Do I vote for someone who cheated on his disabled wife who faithfully waited for him while he was a POW…or someone who takes his wedding vows seriously?
Do I vote for someone who has temper tantrums and is known for being a jerk with no diplomacy skills…or someone who knows how to bring people together in a common purpose and get things done?
Even if all one does is focus on the character of each candidtate and not the issues…the choice seems pretty clear.
“Silly carbuncle excuse of a human being you are.”
I’ll tell you what…why don’t we focus on issues rather than wasting time launching personal attacks? The insults get pretty boring.
XXX
Yesterday I illustrated why your claim that McCain caused the fire on the Forrestal was a crock of schitt.
You responded with blahhhblabhabhhhaaablahhh.
Was that an admission that you don’t know what you’re talking about or an admission that you lied?
I’ll tell you what…why don’t we focus on issues rather than wasting time launching personal attacks? The insults get pretty boring.
The only way you can do that is to use the scroll wheel, since we don’t have an ignore button.
What gives? I tuned in to SNL last night and it was a rerun! (have to admit I did watch palin and clinton, again!)
Did troopergate getting released of a Friday throw them off kilter?
Sorry, CONs –
Your worst nightmare has happened.
http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=370743&altf=Npolfz&altl=Ibxl
Great, just what the country needs, more deregulation!
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Bush administration plan to let U.S. agencies decide for themselves whether their actions put wildlife at risk is drawing fire from environmental groups, which say this is like letting a fox guard a henhouse.
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The Interior Department, one of two federal agencies pushing for this policy change, rejects the environmentalists’ critique, saying the new rule would cut bureaucratic red tape and free government scientists for more important work.
But a coalition of conservation groups sees the move as an attempt to gut the Endangered Species Act.
“This is exactly the fox guarding the henhouse,” Michael Daulton of the National Audubon Society said. “It’s a scary proposition to think about agencies with no wildlife expertise at all making decisions about the fate of species, potentially leading to extinction.”
Monkey Hawk, you damn spoiler!
http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=370743&altf=Qfebou&altl=uif1Hvz1gspn1WB
It’s a crowded field!
S&P had its worst week in 75 yrs.
Ted Guy, a former Air Force Colonel held 5 1/2 years by the Vietnamese and McCain’s senior ranking officer (SRO) in the POW camp, told the U.S. Veteran Dispatch he cannot remember the communists ever laying a hand on McCain.
Other sources have told the U.S. Veteran Dispatch that the Vietnamese are holding as much as fifty hours of film footage secretly taken of McCain during the time his KGB-trained handlers had him isolated from other U.S. prisoners of war.
The sources say interrogators have candid camera footage of McCain with the nurse, who allegedly supplied him with more than just medical attention during those lonely days and nights in so-called solitary confinement.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd59.htm
Heckler
Posted October 12, 2008 at 9:17 am | Permalink
XXX
Yesterday I illustrated why your claim that McCain caused the fire on the Forrestal was a crock of schitt.
You responded with blahhhblabhabhhhaaablahhh.
Was that an admission that you don’t know what you’re talking about or an admission that you lied?
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Heckler, here let me end this misery for you.
XXX is making a point, see? If you guys weren’t blinded by partisanship, you’d see his post for what it is. Which is that ever since 2004 military service people who enter the political arena are fair game.
Just as John Kerry and HIS military record was fair game then.
You guys really need a kick in the ass sometimes, you know that?
Ronald Kessler’s excellent piece in Newsmax on Senator John McCain’s erratic and explosive temper is 100% dead on target. As someone who has known McCain for 32 years, I can unequivocally state that he should be no where near the Oval Office.
His behavior through the years tells us all we need to know: he is a spoiled brat-turned adult who demeans people who dare to disagree with him; he has an explosive temper that can erupt on a nanosecond’s notice; he is a total liar who will tell you something one day and then totally deny it the next (more on that below); he is a political chameleon who is enabled by the so-called Main Stream Media; he is also a megalomaniac whose former POW status has allowed him to get away with things — i.e. the Keating Five Scandal — that others would have gone to jail for.
In sum, McCain is a disaster waiting-to-happen.
http://www.gunowners.org/mcdis.htm
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, even if it’s terrible for civil discourse.
But you guys weren’t so worried about that in 2004, now were you?
Ain’t nothing going to change no matter who wins. Both sides are part of the GOB network,albeit Obama hasn’t been a part of it as long as Mcain has.
Ifear this country is circling the drain and the fringe groups from both sides arfe doing nothing but speeding up the proce3ss
Well,
bush has screwed America up just about as bad as it was in his capacity to do. But HEY the rich got richer!
What DOES he do for an exit? Blow up the Sun?
Just a passing thought. Does anyone think that GW could use this financial meltdown as a national emergency to put off the elections?
XXX
Posting anti-McCain stuff from Gunowners.org while preparing to vote for the least experienced most anti-gun candidate that has ever run for President.
Twisted.
I don’t like McCain either but Obama is a dangerous empty suit. And a Saul Alisky apostle.
Pedant
What XXX posted was a lie, and not a very good one. I’m just in the mood to hammer him with it until he admits he was wrong.
I think the Repubs were on to something, the U.S. should immediately start depositing S.S. payments in recipients names, or street names, directly into the major stock indexes. Then stocks would rise, and I could cash out!
The impression that McCain and the media has attempted to portray of McCain’s 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam is about as far from the truth that one could possible go. McCain, from the first moments of his capture, had behaved as a COLLOBORATOR and propaganda tool for his North Vietnamese captors. McCain had engaged in no less than 30, and likely as many as 38 anti-American propaganda broadcasts for Radio Hanoi during the period of his captivity. Far from the image of a dedicated American “hero” sweating it out in a North Vietnamese prisoner’s “hotbox” for 5 1/2 years, McCain was often given “special” treatment by his captors, who were fully aware of his father’s and grandfather’s 4 star admiral positions with the Navy. No one has ever witnessed McCain’s supposed “torture” at the hands of his jailers.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/earlhopperinterview08feb08.shtml
XXX stands with hands over ears, lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalal.
Or is that blahblabhahblabhabhablahb.
What if a private memory of years of collaboration in his prison camp gnaws at McCain, and bursts out in his paroxysms of uncontrollable fury, his rantings about “gooks” and his terrifying commitment to a hundred years of war in Iraq. What if “the hero” knows he’s a phony?
“War is one thing, collaborating with the enemy is another; it is a legitimate campaign issue that strikes at the heart of McCain’s character. . .or lack thereof. In occupied countries like Iraq, or France in World War II, collaboration to that extent spells an automatic death sentence.. .”
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=8447
Barack Obama, Sept 7, on Meet the Press:
As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want
to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. ‘There are a lot of people in the world
to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression.
–so, he won’t ‘take sides’ on behalf of the United States.
“I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the
World To Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it”
–instead of our National Anthem. What is next, cum bay ya?
“My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago”
He admits burning the United States flag–an act of total and complete disrespect of this country.
Linda found this last night.
It is worth another airing today!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4926283.ece
Palin’s ambition.
Obama holds the lead and NOW the Clintons are going to campaign and fundraise for him. Look out Republicans, the race is just now beginning.
WASHINGTON - When Bill and Hillary Clinton take the stage Sunday at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania, it will be the launch of an active campaign for their former nemesis Barack Obama in the home stretch of the 2008 presidential race.
The nation’s best known and most powerful Democrats for nearly two decades, the former first couple is getting used to a new role: cheerleaders for Obama, who vanquished Hillary Clinton last spring in a Democratic primary contest for the ages.
Whatever recriminations the Clintons may still harbor from that long battle seem to have been nudged aside as they campaign in earnest for the Democratic ticket.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081012/ap_on_el_pr/clintons_obama
Maybe that’s why mccain wants to be pres. so bad, to atone for his treason and for the men that died because of his plane explosion.
Just a passing thought. Does anyone think that GW could use this financial meltdown as a national emergency to put off the elections?
Thought had crossed my mind a time or two.
Allegations resurface that McCain made propaganda statements and tried to keep Viet Cong records about him classified.
A 1992 video featuring a Republican senator, Republican congressman and top Capitol Hill staffers who worked on Vietnam prisoner of war and missing in action issues say John McCain collaborated with North Vietnamese while a POW, and then covered up that involvement to the detriment of POW/MIA families seeking access to classified Pentagon records about their own family members.
http://sivoneall.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/23/1899813-republicans-allege-mccain-covered-up-his-collaboration-with-the-north-vietnamese-while-a-pow
“You might want to see your doctor to get a prescription for some major drugs. I can see a major meltdown for you coming in the evening of November 4th”
I thought the same thing. He’s getting more unhinged here by the day. By election day, he’ll be in the most nasty meltdown you can imagine.
Well, I guess we can imagine it because he’s done it before.
I wonder if he thinks his posting here brings honor to the military he is so proud of? Is that where he learned the hatred?
Is a vote for mcsame a vote for someone like reg? Unexplained hostility, mood swings, revenge and hatred?
Just read his posts. What do YOU think?
“Just a passing thought. Does anyone think that GW could use this financial meltdown as a national emergency to put off the elections?”
Didnt folks from his administration threaten martial law if congress didnt bailout his family and his buddies on Wall Street?
GMC said it could never happen, so I guess we’re safe….
“Obama, who vanquished Hillary Clinton last spring in a Democratic primary contest for the ages.”
Does Obama want my vote or not “mxyzptlk”? Why do you want to poke a finger in the eye of Clinton supporters?
And I don’t much care for duplicity no matter where it comes from. CLEARLY you are a long time poster here. Why the nic switching?
“Whatever recriminations the Clintons may still harbor from that long battle seem to have been nudged aside as they campaign in earnest for the Democratic ticket.”
But you can’t do that can you “mxyzptlk”?
If you think you can poke Clinton supporters in the eye or take them for granted or otherwise insult us you better think again. What an incredibly stupid thing for you to do at this time.
And wear your real nic doing it.
Heckler
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:14 am | Permalink
Pedant
What XXX posted was a lie, and not a very good one. I’m just in the mood to hammer him with it until he admits he was wrong.
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Yeah, well let’s all hope we can raise the USA up by improving everybody’s lies. Jesus.
By the way, you might try apologizing for the Kerry smears of 2004 first. I bet you’d find XXX pretty forgiving.
Until then, probably not so much.
Any POW gets a pass for nearly anything done in captivity, in my opinion.
I do believe Mr. XXX is out to show us all that that ‘ol Swift Boat karma’s a real biatch.
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Pedant
Posted October 12, 2008 at 11:18 am | Permalink
I do believe Mr. XXX is out to show us all that that ‘ol Swift Boat karma’s a real biatch.
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Ain’t it the truth, Bro…
It really sucks when the shoe is on the other foot.
“Any POW gets a pass for nearly anything done in captivity, in my opinion”
And, that’s ok, I just object to when they turn it on its head, and run their careers on ‘hero’ status.
John McCain’s temper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g
McCain gets foul-mouthed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCAqm286eAM
Sorry you take it that way BJ. I see the positive in it. I supported Hillary all the way until Obama got the nomination. Now as Hillary said, in order to carry out as much of HER agenda as possible we have to elect Obama and a whole slew of Dems.
I am happy that Obama is already so far ahead in the polls and now Bill & Hillary are supporting him 100% and campaigning for him these last few weeks.
If you feel wronged about that talk to the writer of the article or to Bill and Hill. If you truely don’t want Obama to win, then express yourself as you like.
Hillary asked us to support Obama and I do financially and with volunteer campaign work. If you prefer to go against Hillary’s wishes and strategy, no one can stop you.
Peace BJ.
McCain is no hero. He is a kernal of corn stuck in a duece that Audie Murphy dropped. The brainwashed, ignorant and flag-waving dumbed-down go-to-church-every Sunday “Amuricuns” believe he is the bravest soldier that has ever lived. You deserve everything that is coming to you.
And you Obama goons…same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlcIwvHZUl4&feature=related
When Farrakhan can call Barack Obama the “Messiah” and you say nothing you’ll get what you deserve. (Please allow me to see Obama walk on fu c kin’ water, he will try and squeeze blood from a turnip though)
Both of your sides are fu..c.k.ed.
Wake up assh ole s, you’re ruining our country.
Oh, it’s Sunday, sorry. May God be with you. I’m pretty sure he’s forsaken you, but I’ll be a good sport.
McCain doesn’t want to sit down and talk with world leaders, but he’ll sure talk to Al Queda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t00-iCPxgDk&feature=related
Her’s a new take on that video…not that anyone watched the first one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr3v7Vsg3uY&feature=related
Pleefer
Posted October 12, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink
McCain is no hero. He is a kernal of corn stuck in a duece that Audie Murphy dropped. The brainwashed, ignorant and flag-waving dumbed-down go-to-church-every Sunday “Amuricuns” believe he is the bravest soldier that has ever lived. You deserve everything that is coming to you.
And you Obama goons…same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlcIwvHZUl4&feature=related
When Farrakhan can call Barack Obama the “Messiah” and you say nothing you’ll get what you deserve. (Please allow me to see Obama walk on fu c kin’ water, he will try and squeeze blood from a turnip though)
Both of your sides are fu..c.k.ed.
Wake up assh ole s, you’re ruining our country.
Oh, it’s Sunday, sorry. May God be with you. I’m pretty sure he’s forsaken you, but I’ll be a good sport.
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Finally a sane post.
Because of Obama?
And it begins…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8&feature=related
Another take on it. Not funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH-2Fwx5RU0&feature=related
Ohhhh, did I offwend you? Don’t cwy…
You needed it.
“Raptor” strains with –
“I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the World To Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it”
–instead of our National Anthem. What is next, cum bay ya?”
Hey, if John Mellencamp’s “Little Pink Houses” were the national anthem I’d probably salute it.
The lyrics are better poetry and aren’t set to the tune of an old British drinking song that no one can sing.
And I think the American Flag is fine flag. I know the symbolism and it stands out in a crowd and can be bunched up into impressive bunting during World Series games.
But it’s just a symbol. It isn’t America or Americans; it’s a piece of cloth.
Brush up on your 3rd Commandment before you start worshiping it as something more important than what actually happens to and by this nation.
I never liked the “I pledge allegiance to the flag” part of the flag salute. I willingly and eagerly and passionately pledge allegiance “…to the republic for which it stands.”
But the piece of cloth?
If that’s what it takes for you to feel like a patriot, fine.
I just question how you establish your priorities in life.
“I supported Hillary all the way until Obama got the nomination.”
Uh huh.
What nic were you under then?
For that writer to write what he did the way he did, and for you to bring it here swings a hammer at a very fragile coalition.
“If you truely don’t want Obama to win”
Let me be very clear. I want McCain/Palin to lose. I’m here everyday doing my best to help that happen.
Don’t try to play off what was your very clear mistake and (unintentional?) insult/provocation on me as my fault. Be grateful and appreciative for Senator Clinton and her supporters. They are the only reason Obama is in the race let alone in the lead. I won’t go into what could have been other than to opine that if Senator Clinton had been the nominee, this race would already be won.
Ceasefire
Fu c. k the Pledge of Allegiance.
It was written to militarize children by a fu.ck ing socialist. But try and explain that to a retarded flag waver around here. The original salute was the right arm held straight out, palm down. Hmm? Where have we seen that before?
rexcurry.net
go read through that stuff. pretty eye opening. but hey, what do I know?
Attack McCain for his military service for what reason? Obama has already stated not to do it. Your messiah says “no” and you still do it.
Kerry was a war protester, disowned the military and symbolically through away his medals. Kerry deliberately tried to make the military look bad through his false allegations to Congress. In other words, Kerry lied to Congress.
I know lots of soldiers, past and present. I don’t attack them. John McCain USES his military “service” as some platform for filling the stupid people’s head’s full of sh i t and to make you think he actually earned his accomodations. His father tried to kill all that were aboard the USS Liberty.
The men I know don’t display their service in order to gain accolades. They served as real men and are getting sh i t on by a bunch of people that USED them for political gain.
F. uc k John McCain.
You need to read about Smedley Butler.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
And read about the “Business Plot” while you’re at it.
How about wars of attrition? My Lai?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre
I would bet that’s what that dilrod Kerry was referring to.
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Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink
Attack McCain for his military service for what reason? Obama has already stated not to do it. Your messiah says “no” and you still do it.
Kerry was a war protester, disowned the military and symbolically through away his medals. Kerry deliberately tried to make the military look bad through his false allegations to Congress. In other words, Kerry lied to Congress.
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McCain was a collaborator. A traitor.
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XXX
Posted October 12, 2008 at 12:50 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink
Attack McCain for his military service for what reason? Obama has already stated not to do it. Your messiah says “no” and you still do it.
Kerry was a war protester, disowned the military and symbolically through away his medals. Kerry deliberately tried to make the military look bad through his false allegations to Congress. In other words, Kerry lied to Congress.
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McCain was a collaborator. A traitor.
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The difference between you and me XXX, is that I would stand up in front of a very large crowd several times or as much as it would take and tell people what I think about Kerry and his dishonorable actions.
You, on the other hand would seek the cowardly position of making posts that you know are lies behind the anonymity of the Internet.
Must be a long line of yellow-bellied cowards in your family.
Attack McCain for his military service for what reason? Obama has already stated not to do it. Your messiah says “no” and you still do it.
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Obama won’t attack McCain’s military record. Obama has no military experience.
On the other hand, I do. McCain risked my life and the lives of my fellow Marines. I don’t have to pretend that I’m ok with his traitorous behavior.
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XXX
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink
Attack McCain for his military service for what reason? Obama has already stated not to do it. Your messiah says “no” and you still do it.
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Obama won’t attack McCain’s military record. Obama has no military experience.
On the other hand, I do. McCain risked my life and the lives of my fellow Marines. I don’t have to pretend that I’m ok with his traitorous behavior.
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Yeah, that means you can account for one person’s behavior during Vietnam - yours.
Anything else is a lie.
But since your okay with lying, do carry on.
Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink
The difference between you and me XXX, is that I would stand up in front of a very large crowd several times or as much as it would take and tell people what I think about Kerry and his dishonorable actions.
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Yeah, Riiight! You talk the talk, but you sure don’t walk the walk.
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You, on the other hand would seek the cowardly position of making posts that you know are lies behind the anonymity of the Internet.
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Look who’s talking. Can’t handle a dose of your own medicine?
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XXX
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink
The difference between you and me XXX, is that I would stand up in front of a very large crowd several times or as much as it would take and tell people what I think about Kerry and his dishonorable actions.
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Yeah, Riiight! You talk the talk, but you sure don’t walk the walk.
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You, on the other hand would seek the cowardly position of making posts that you know are lies behind the anonymity of the Internet.
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Look who’s talking. Can’t handle a dose of your own medicine?
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Go ahead, keep on making excuses for your lying.
You are quite good and adept at it.
Must have had lots of practice.
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Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Permalink
Yeah, that means you can account for one person’s behavior during Vietnam - yours.
Anything else is a lie.
But since your okay with lying, do carry on.
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Wrong again as usual, Bozo.
XXX, doh!
You should have been taken prisoner, told your captors’ who your father was and recieved good treatment. And futhermore, you should have taken the preferential treatment and then still sign a “confession” of your guilt. Then maybe you’d be a “war hero” too.
Also, maybe you should have been a hot dog and a reckless Navy Pilot without a care in the world (because your daddy would be right there, holding your hand) instead of such a lowly Marine. Then maybe Regular would find you to be a hero.
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Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink
Go ahead, keep on making excuses for your lying.
You are quite good and adept at it.
Must have had lots of practice.
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This from the lying a$$hole Regular, known as the biggest liar on the blog.
Pot, meet kettle.
Have fun with your lying ways XXX.
You have a knack for it, now that the taste is in your mouth.
It will be hard to let go of your new reputation as you are enjoying it.
‘The Power and The Story’
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,992801-8,00.html
“A presidential candidate is not supposed to tell you about the rules he broke or the strippers he dated, or the time he arrived so drunk that he fell through the screen door of the young lady he was wooing.
The candor tells you more than the content, and reporters sometimes just decide to take McCain off the record because they don’t want to see him flame out and burn up a great story.
Pleefer
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink
XXX, doh!
You should have been taken prisoner
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They tried that. Ugly results.
The vast majority of POWs didn’t collaborate. That takes a hell of a man.
A very few, like McCain, sang their guts out.
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Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink
Have fun with your lying ways XXX.
You have a knack for it, now that the taste is in your mouth.
It will be hard to let go of your new reputation as you are enjoying it.
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Reg, you would know all about having a rep as a liar, huh?
As if I or anybody else cares what the blog a$$hole thinks.
Yeah, you end up with Obama, Clinton, Bush, McCain, Kerry and Palin when you’re dumb enough to let the media choose your candidate and not inform yourself. When you loathe history and don’t mark your trail or carry a compass, sometimes you end up walking around in circles.
Choose “wisely”, dolts.
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XXX
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink
Have fun with your lying ways XXX.
You have a knack for it, now that the taste is in your mouth.
It will be hard to let go of your new reputation as you are enjoying it.
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Reg, you would know all about having a rep as a liar, huh?
As if I or anybody else cares what the blog a$$hole thinks.
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See, you are enjoying your new liar status already as you project your misdeeds onto others without taking personal responsibility.
Nice huh?
Hope you have many years of accumulated lies.
Regular posted October 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Go ahead, keep on making excuses for your lying.
You are quite good and adept at it.
Must have had lots of practice.
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“Kansas values” Regular is the WE Blog’s most prolific liar. He regularly lies about climate science, other posters, etc, to support his unsupportable opinions.
For example, Regular added a false, fictional last paragraph to his copy/paste post here, and he stole J M Walker’s nic.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232
Regular has zero credibility (and zero self-respect).
What? Is XXX not a Marine?
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink
Regular posted October 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Go ahead, keep on making excuses for your lying.
You are quite good and adept at it.
Must have had lots of practice.
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“Kansas values” Regular is the WE Blog’s most prolific liar. He regularly lies about climate science, other posters, etc, to support his unsupportable opinions.
For example, Regular added a false, fictional last paragraph to his copy/paste post here, and he stole J M Walker’s nic.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232
Regular has zero credibility (and zero self-respect).
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What a surprise!
cosmos makes a post about something I never tried to hide and apologized for several times.
It makes no difference to cosmos though, he can hide behind his computer.
History shows that McCain is weak. And in his unwavering weakness, sold out his country. But at least we know what he is.
Obama is a damned Judas Goat with zero history.
“Kansas values” Regular also added two false, fictional paragraphs to his copy/paste,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/if-you-thought-the-campaign-was-negative-before/#comment-440996
The first 5 paragraphs were from,
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/election/s_584284.html
but these 2 paragraphs were NOT.
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Under the bill, ACORN would have…
I noticed that language … AWFUL was my reaction. …
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Regular just added some fictional garbage to his copy/paste, like he did with his New Orleans levee post.
The Wichita Eagle Blog — where Republicans, like “Kansas values” Regular, can easily spread their hateful LIES.
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Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
See, you are enjoying your new liar status already as you project your misdeeds onto others without taking personal responsibility.
Nice huh?
Hope you have many years of accumulated lies.
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Just when you thought the blog a$$hole couldn’t sink any lower.
Reg, you’re getting shrill again.
Battle of the reputations?
Jimmuh? You lose. Even an honest con would tell you that.
XXX, I honestly don’t care what your opinion is and I can’t change it. But why would you judge McCain? You don’t know what he went through. The Viet Cong didn’t care about whether most other prisoners broke. But McCain was the son of an admiral. They knew it. Were they rougher on him? Could you have stood it yourself? How do you know?
Or is it all just partisan BS?
Ask yourself those questions before you judge someone who’s shoes you have not walked in.
A small middle-aged woman at the table, apparently a “regular,” reached out and pulled McCain’s arm away. I’ll let Jeff take over the story:
“McCain immediately turned to the woman and said between clenched teeth: ‘DON’T TOUCH ME.’ The woman started to explain…McCain interrupted her: ‘DON’T TOUCH ME,’ he repeated viciously. The woman again tried to explain. ‘DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU’RE TALKING TO?’ McCain continued, his voice rising and his hands now raised in the ‘bring it on’ position. He was red-faced. By this time all the action at the table had stopped. I was completely shocked. McCain had totally lost it, and in the space of about ten seconds. ‘Sir, you must be courteous to the other players at the table,’ the pit boss said to McCain. “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? ASK ANYBODY AROUND HERE WHO I AM.”
XXX just keeps on justifying his lying ways.
I wonder if his employer knows he lies with such abandon?
outlander
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
XXX, I honestly don’t care what your opinion is and I can’t change it. But why would you judge McCain?
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Outlander, that’s what this is all about; judging the candidates. republicans lie by saying that Obama is a Muslim, or that he’s not Christian, or that he’s the Antichrist.
There’s no question that McCain was a collaborator. He admits it.
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You don’t know what he went through.
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Not quite accurate, Outlander. I’m not going into the detail, but I have some up close experience with POWs.
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Could you have stood it yourself? How do you know?
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It’s hard to tell, outlander. I don’t think that anybody can answer that without going through it. But then, I’m not running for president and claiming hero status for being a POW. And let’s not forget, nobody ever actually saw McCain being tortured.
I would hope I could endure torture without selling out my brothers.
I earned the right to question McCain’s service. If the Swift Boaters could do it because they were vets, I can too.
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Regular
Posted October 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink
XXX just keeps on justifying his lying ways.
I wonder if his employer knows he lies with such abandon?
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Even shriller.
The blog a$$hole goes over the cliff.
Geez Reg, is this the best you can do? You’re really slipping.
XXX
Posted October 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm | Permalink
..is this the best you can do? You’re really slipping.
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Yeah, not so sure about that actually.
Best I can reckon from his behavior on this blog, there ain’t a standard out there that he can’t manage to get below. He’ll fool you pretty regular if you start thinking he’s hit rock bottom.
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Pedant
Posted October 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
Best I can reckon from his behavior on this blog, there ain’t a standard out there that he can’t manage to get below. He’ll fool you pretty regular if you start thinking he’s hit rock bottom.
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Yep, that’s why he’s the blog a$$hole.
If Regular is the blog A$$hole then what are MonkeyHawk and WS Clark?
A LOL, and a good summary of the Sarah and Todd Palin governor administration.
‘What the Troopergate Report Really Says’
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html
“The report also raises the suggestion that the final incident that led to Monegan’s firing was perhaps the most (unintentionally) hilarious part of the whole saga. In the run-up to Alaska’s 2008 Police Memorial Day event, Monegan visited Palin in Anchorage and brought along an official portrait of a state trooper in uniform, saluting in front of the police memorial in Anchorage, for Palin to sign and present at the event. The trooper? Mike Wooten.
Palin signed the photo and didn’t say anything, according to Monegan’s testimony, but later cancelled her attendance at the event, sending Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell in her place. The head of her Anchorage office followed up with a call to Monegan berating him for his insensitivity. (Monegan swears he didn’t know it was Wooten in the picture, and that he didn’t even know what Wooten looked like.)
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But even though she won’t likely face any legal repercussions, the amateurism and cronyism of her brief administration hardly leaves Palin sitting pretty. Troopergate’s final verdict may be even more damaging than a rebuke: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists she hopes to unseat.”
Nathan
Answer: the brain and heart?
Although maybe heart and brain is a better answer.
President Clinton, Senator Clinton and Senator Biden at the same event, speaking so well and representing America with their convictions of what we and our country will be when we’re all working together. What a great future we have! Makes me so proud!
Me? I’m the little toe.
It WAS good to hear Senator Clinton speaking again. I’ve missed hearing from her.
I loved the line about how to McCain and bush, the middle class isn’t fundamental, it’s ornamental.
The Democratic Party does have some inspirational speakers! And after the years of bushco we’ve been left yearning for inspiration, for the ability to breathe easier because capable adults will lead us. We need hope to face our challenges and it is good to be able to hold our heads high.
Quite a contrast when you see Republican campaign events generate hate while Democratic campaign events generate enthusiasm, hope, pride, excitement and a knowledge our country is great and we can regain our place in the world.
lindainks55 posted October 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
The Democratic Party does have some inspirational speakers!
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And the Republican party has the hate-inciting Sarah Palin.
Well she isn’t much of a speaker if she has to put words together to make coherent sentences “off the cuff,” but she does seem to have several hateful talking points memorized. It doesn’t seem to be working tho — the majority of Americans aren’t buying into the hate or the haters. Who needs to worry about terrorists? A Republican political rally is dangerous enough!
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lindainks55
Posted October 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm | Permalink
The Democratic Party does have some inspirational speakers! And after the years of bushco we’ve been left yearning for inspiration, for the ability to breathe easier because CAPABLE ADULTS WILL LEAD US . We need hope to face our challenges and it is good to be able to hold our heads high.
Dear God the Republic is lost. Above you see the antithesis of the founding principle of this land. People wanted to be left alone by government. They wanted to make their own way. EFFING LIBERTY!!!!
All Linda wants is an ADULT to LEAD her. Justphujjjk!!!
As I have said and said and said, many in the Republican party are people who carry deep grudges and resentments, and those feelings have been worked upon for twenty years by propagandists.
Anyway, how can anyone listen to that gaggy crap Palin spews. Yet the whole crowd greets every syrupy insinuation with knowing jeers. They know what Palin is talking about. It’s explained to them every day out in the alternate universe by Rush and the others. But only they know. The alternate universe is withering. There are fewer of them this time around and they are not united. And that’s why they are losing.
From electoral.com…
“William F. Buckley’s Son Endorses Obama
William F. Buckley was the unchallenged intellectual leader of the conservative movement for half a century. He paved the way for Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. He was brilliant, witty, and charming. He founded the National Review and made it the mouthpiece of the right. He wrote over 50 books defining what conservatism means. He hosted over 1000 television programs. He was also immensely proud of his only child, Christopher. Buckley Sr. died in February. Maybe it is just as well because he would not have enjoyed seeing his son, who never voted for a Democrat in his entire life, endorse. Barack Obama, as he just did. The younger Buckley has known McCain personally for over 25 years and until this campaign, admired him greatly as being authentic. However, the campaign changed McCain. He is no longer authentic. He basically sold his soul to become President. Intellectuals like the Buckleys think that if you are going to sell your soul, you better get something a lot better than the presidency for it.”
Electoral also shows Democrats positioned to have 59 seats in the Senate!
Joe Lieberman will have ample chance to redeem his sorry self by joining the Dems in veto proof decisions. I’d rather not have to rely on Joe though.
Go Slattery!
“William F. Buckley’s Son Endorses Obama”
Buckley Sr. was the one with the intellect…his son has none. Jr. has no claim to recognition of his own intellect.
In other words….who cares what Jr. thinks.
beber
Dude you should be writing for Star Trek or something. Really.
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Heckler
Posted October 12, 2008 at 4:06 pm | Permalink
Dear God the Republic is lost. Above you see the antithesis of the founding principle of this land. People wanted to be left alone by government. They wanted to make their own way. EFFING LIBERTY!!!!
All Linda wants is an ADULT to LEAD her. Justphujjjk!!!
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Heckler, the Republic has been lost for the past 8 years, but it’s about to find it’s way again. You and your republican ilk are about to be turned out, back to the wilderness where you belong. It would be nice if we could work with the party that’s about to assume the stature of the SMALL minority, but as long as you and your kind dominate what once was a good and honorable party, that’s not going to happen.
For a change, a good party will take control. You republicans will bear watching for a while. There doesn’t seem to be any level you won’t sink to.
Enjoy your sojourn in the political wilderness.
“I loved the line about how to McCain and bush, the middle class isn’t fundamental, it’s ornamental.”
The Conservatives think adults should be able to get up and walk to the bathroom on their own.
DimLibs think they have to be taken in and have their diapers changed for them.
“Only a few percent of small businesses make more than $250,000 a year. So the vast majority of small businesses would get a tax cut under my plan.”
Interesting. Let’s see who exactly is affected in Barry’s plan, shall we?
The Small Business Administration defines a small business on their average annual receipts or the number of its employees. A few examples from the Table of Small Business Size Standards showing the maximum average annual receipts by industry that a business can have and still be classified as a small business:
Crop production of all types — $750,000
Animal production except for cattle & chicken/eggs — $750,000
Cattle feedlots — $2.5M
Chicken/egg production — $12.5M
Forestry & logging — $7M
Fishing — $4M
Irrigation, sewage, water supplies — $7M
Housing construction — $33.5M
Heavy and civil engineering construction — $33.5M
Dredging and cleanup — $20M
Concrete, framing, and other housing contractors — $14M
Car dealers — $23-29M
RV, motorcycle, & boat dealers — $7M
Furniture, hardware, clothing & sporting good stores — $7M
Electronic stores — $9M
Supermarkets, gas stations & department stores — $27M
Pharmacies — $7M
If you click on the link, there are several more examples. It is laughable that Obama says “only a few percent” would be affected by his tax plan. Just from the sample above, these small businesses employ so many people. Other industries in the table, such as manufacturers of food, apparel, plumbing, machinery, computers, even transportation are considered small businesses because of their total number of employees. How many of those people would be affected by Obama’s plan?
83% of small businesses employ 50 people or less. So what Obama wants to do is put on his wife beater tank top, and put a colossal beat down on the people who make this country go. He wants to crush the very livelihoods that are essential to our country’s economy.
And I suppose the DimLibs are right when think of other DimLibs.
Maybe the government fire department will leave you alone when your house catches fire. Maybe you should stay off our government roads. And don’t call the government police for help.
XXX
“what once was a good and honorable party, that’s not going to happen.”
Tell me FUD. What principles did that good and honorable party stand for? What part of that are you going to find in OBAMA? Really, I want to know. You either don’t know what the Republican party onec was, or you don’t know what Obama and the lunatic fringe of the left is.
Seriously, I don’t think you have a clue what you are talking about.
Surprise me.
AMEN to that, DavidB!!
Boise gets earliest snow on record
Valley shivers as winter weather makes a premature appearance.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/530075.html
That Global Warming again, it’s going to cook us all.
Senator Clinton had several good lines.
I also liked her saying that sending McCain to the White House would be like sending the bull to the china shop.
I HEARD that Senator Clinton has now done more appearances and campaigning for Senator Obama than any other second finisher ever. HER political future should be very bright.
Heh HEH!
The “hockey mom” gets booed at the hockey game!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/10/sarah-palin-boo.html
Business don’t pay more in taxes in a vacuum.
If they pay more they charge more, or pay employees less, or hire fewer employees.
Everyone…..that’s everyone, that uses government services should be required to pay something for those services.
People and business that are operating efficiently financially as an individual or business should not be penalized while those that aren’t are rewarded.
The later is a recipe for failure.
Oh man in front of her kids and everything.
I guess they had to crank the music WAY up to TRY and drown out the boos.
Bbb-b-but Boxlock how can that be?
Obama “The Chosen One” said he is going to create more jobs.
How can he create more jobs by taxing small businesses more? Seems there will be less revenue available for business owners to invest and less to hire new employees.
(Scratching my head)
Too funny. Obama being drowned out by Joe Biden during speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJrBhtnQ42U&eurl=http://thejotus.com/
“More than 30,000 Florida felons who by law should have been stripped of their right to vote remain registered to cast ballots in this presidential battleground state, a Sun Sentinel investigation has found.
Many are faithful voters, with at least 4,900 turning out in past elections.
Another 5,600 are not likely to vote Nov. 4 — they’re still in prison.
“Of the felons who registered with a party, Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two to one.” I smell the stench of ACORN again!
Secretary of State Kurt Browning said he was not surprised by the newspaper’s findings. “I’m kind of shocked that the number is as low as it is,” he said.
Asked how many ineligible felons may be on Florida’s rolls, Browning said, “We don’t know.”
The Division of Elections has a backlog of more than 108,000 possible felons who have registered to vote since January 2006 that it hasn’t had the time or staff to verify.
RoaCH posted October 12, 2008 at 4:26 pm
“maximum average annual receipts”
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RoaCH believes that “receipts” = “profits”.
I guess that explains why he supports McCain/Palin.
Obama Praising John McCain’s Record Of Reform
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjrSjtdfc_I
Heckler
Posted October 12, 2008 at 4:30 pm | Permalink
XXX
“what once was a good and honorable party, that’s not going to happen.”
Tell me FUD. What principles did that good and honorable party stand for? What part of that are you going to find in OBAMA?
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Heckler, I’ve probably voted for more republicans than you have. That was back when the party was for smaller government and fiscal responsibility. Now I’m asking YOU seriously. Is that what you think we’ve gotten in the last 8 years.
I’m probably not going to find that in Obama, but I seriously doubt if he can screw things up any worse than Bush has. I think a broken brick could give us better leadership than we’ve had.
And I’m not even going to ask what FUD means. I figure it’s probably something nasty or vulgar.
You and your party are on the way out. Here, let me get the door for you.
Brrrrrrrrr in Boise Boxlocks.
no question that GLOBAL WARMING is here! … God help us! WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!
cosmos_originally it is obvious you have never run a small business.
Do you think they file quarterly based upon their income (after taxes)?
Idiot.
When will McCain praise Sarah and Todd Palin’s “record of reform” in Alaska?
‘What the Troopergate Report Really Says’
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html
“But even though she won’t likely face any legal repercussions, the amateurism and cronyism of her brief administration hardly leaves Palin sitting pretty. Troopergate’s final verdict may be even more damaging than a rebuke: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists she hopes to unseat.”
RoaCH posted October 12, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Do you think they file quarterly based upon their income (after taxes)?
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From your post, RoaCH,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1012/#comment-445646
you seem to that they file ONLY based on their “receipts”.
“All Linda wants is an ADULT to LEAD her. Justphujjjk!!!” — Heckler
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Heckler,
Your kind of discourse solves nothing. Yes, I want an adult to lead. America deserves respect as a member of the world community and will be restored to her greatness. Americans deserve inspirational leadership and we’re capable of meeting our many challenges when we’re working together under competent leadership.
It isn’t all I want. I want all people to act with humility, a sense of tolerance and the ability to treat others with dignity. I know no one who isn’t deserving of dignity. What I see for America’s future is a majority ready to move forward and away from our divisiveness, toward our greatness.
I’ve had the great pleasure of meeting most of the people from here on WEBlog who are supporting Obama / Biden. Many of them have become friends I can depend on. We’re working together on several projects, sharing our talents and building a community of like-minded people supportive of one another and our futures. There are a group of about 25 of us who meet regularly and our meetings usually have 12 - 15 people in attendance. They represent all walks of life and many vocations — teachers, nurses, college professors, lawyers, engineers, parents, authors, grandparents, scientists, human resource professionals, artists, (sorry to all I’ve left out!). All kind, hard-working, giving, tax paying citizens. None are what your words paint them to be, none are as lacking as your visions.
America is moving forward. Everyone is welcome to come along.
The weekend is almost over. Palin was found to violate ethics laws and her oath of office as governor, she and McCain are arguing, she was booed resoundingly at a hockey game, McCain was called out for his racist and incendiary rhetoric and he was chastized for it by his fellow Republicans.
Let’s see what this week brings for the floundering Republicans.
For anybody who remembers Jack Anderson, his files have just been released by the FBI. Jack was a trip and a half. You either hated him or loved him . . . no in between. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27136155/
I guess the real hockey moms of the country think of America in a different way than Sarah. How ironic!
Boxlock
Posted October 12, 2008 at 4:50 pm | Permalink
“Of the felons who registered with a party, Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two to one.”
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Cool, that’s about what the Democrats will outnumber the Republicans by come November 5th.
Be afraid . . . be very afraid!!!!!
Little is being discussed about Obama’s support of Kenya’s tyrant Prime Minister Raila Odinga.
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e4kUZuqGSU
JMWalker,
The Dimocratic party is full of felons, along with liars and other degenerates.
I’m could have guessed you’d take delight in that, slime loves slime.
“If you want a fight, we will fight. But we will be respectful.” … “I just mean to say you have to be respectful” -John McCain Oct 10, 2008
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Boxlock
Posted October 12, 2008 at 5:54 pm | Permalink
JMWalker,
The Dimocratic party is full of felons, along with liars and other degenerates.
I’m could have guessed you’d take delight in that, slime loves slime.
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Damn straight, boxboy, we gonna take yer guns away and rob ya blind, en laugh while doin’ it, donchano.
Prisoners voting from prison?? ROFL!!! What a JOKE!!! Prisons monitor all mail — LEGALLY!! Any absentee ballots would be intercepted BEFORE a preisoner even saw it!! And, they just cant catch a ride to a polling place…
NOW, COME ON GENIUSES —- TELL US HOW A PRISONER CAN VOTE???
wAY TOO MUCH STYUPID HERE FOR ONE DAY…
“TELL US HOW A PRISONER CAN VOTE???”
“Another 5,600 are not likely to vote Nov. 4 — they’re still in prison.”
So you agree they are not likely to vote.
Thats right Hud… but somebody here on this Blog was complaining about prisoners voting… Just thought I would straighten that out…. LO
If I understand it right, a convicted felon who is NOT in prison, or still on parole, is just as eligible to vote as anybody else…
Is that right, or is it a state by state issue?? And I am not looking for a bunch of TRASH answers….
The New York Times took the unusual step of quickly editing and replacing a hysterical post by hockey blogger Lynn Zinser that covered Sarah Palin’s appearance at the Philadelphia Flyers home opener where she was invited to drop a ceremonial puck. In her original post Zinser exaggerated the boos by the crowd, attacked Flyers owner Ed Snider for inviting Palin to the event and appears to have fabricated the discomfort felt by NHL players Scott Gomez and Mike Richards.
That account has since been changed. Somewhere along the line Zinser gutted the original article and replaced it with a new one that came a bit closer to reality. However the repost didn’t occur before the original article shot across the internet…………
Dims gotta cheat to win.
RoaCH
Posted October 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm | Permalink
Little is being discussed about Obama’s support of Kenya’s tyrant Prime Minister Raila Odinga.
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Probably because there’s nothing to discuss.
RoaCH, we’ll put that in the file right beside the one about Obama being the Antichrist.
Meanwhile, you and your GOP buddies get ready for Nov 5.
Fact Sheet: States That Bar Ex-Offenders from Voting
http://www.hrw.org/press98/oct/vote_fact1022.htm
PHILADELPHIA –-
Sarah Palin has become known as “The Most Famous Hockey Mom in America” for her constant referral to herself on the stump as “just a hockey mom.” This evening, she met that title head on by dropping the first puck of the Philadelphia Flyers hockey season in their opener with the New York Rangers.
A carpet was laid down and Palin, dressed in a beige trench, walked on to the ice joined by her daughters Willow and Piper. The GOP Vice-Presidential nominee said at an earlier fundraiser that she would stop some of the booing from the rowdy Philadelphia fans by putting her seven year old daughter, Piper in a Flyers jersey. She said, “How dare they boo Piper!”
Her secret weapon may have worked. The crowd in this staunchly Democratic city –visited today by Barack Obama—gave Palin mixed reviews. There were audible boos over the very loud music and some in the crowd had their thumbs down, but there were also many people clapping and cheering the GOP Vice-Presidential nominee.
Once she got on the ice she met the woman who won the “Ultimate Hockey Mom” contest, Cathy O’Connell from Erdenheim, Pennsylvania and patted her on the back. Flyers captain Mike Richards skated over to shake Palin’s hand and fellow Alaskan and New York Ranger Scotty Gomez greeted his Governor who gave him a kiss on the cheek. Palin then leaned over for the face off between the two players and dropped the puck.
The Palins joined by the “Ultimate Hockey Mom” walked off the ice waving to the crowd.
Barack Obama’s fans have absolutely no class and, instead of politely disagreeing are willing to boo an eight-year-old
Hey everybody, ol JMWalker was kind enough to check in on me.
I guess he was worried because I didn’t respond to his lunatic comment at 6:09 pm. That’s simply because most all his comments are lunatic in substance and I’m used to them.
Just the same I appreciated him thinking of me and checking in.
Look how he did:
Link to JM: http://pages.suddenlink.net/baraboo57/checkingonu.html
The Associated Press reports that Obama has spoken to Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga to “express grave concerns over the election’s outcome,” according to Odinga’s spokesperson, who added that the Democratic hopeful also plans to call Kenyan president Mwai Kibaki.
Obama, who has discussed the situation with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, has also recorded a message urging an end to the violence for broadcast on Voice of America radio.
… it also might foreshadow how Obama would handle foreign policy as president. Engaging the principals in the Kenyan crisis directly seems in line with the vision he’s spelled out in debates, one that includes face-to-face meetings with foreign leaders, including those opposed to American interests.
cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/08/politics/horserace/entry3687705.shtml
What kind of mom uses her 7-year old daughter as a shield?
‘Sarah Palin Booed Loud, seat view. Flyers game.’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXNetpeu_mk
Generally speaking felons lose their right to vote. A governor can restore this right, if they choose to.
‘McCain’s Small-Business Bunk‘
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccains_small-business_bunk.html
“The GOP Vice-Presidential nominee said at an earlier fundraiser that she would stop some of the booing from the rowdy Philadelphia fans by putting her seven year old daughter, Piper in a Flyers jersey. She said, “How dare they boo Piper!”
Premeditated USE of a a seven year old as a shield? How DARE she put the little girl in that position! She aint very deep, but seems to enjoy looking for the bottom. Despicable.
Hey, boxboy was kind enough to post his picture on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zemdMC4dc0s
XXX
“That was back when the party was for smaller government and fiscal responsibility. ”
“I’m probably not going to find that in Obama, but I seriously doubt if he can screw things up any worse than Bush has”
I call Bullschidtt. You don’t hold those beliefs and then one day turn into a Marxist.
FUD. Reference to Elmer Fud. Clueless hunter who believes a Democrat like Obama or Biden when they say they don’t want to ban YOUR guns. FUD’s don’t learn from history be it American or world. They conveniently overlook the actions of Democrat party members past and believe the lies of Democrat party Saviors present.
You are a FUD. A fool.
And either a liar or woefully uninformed. Ignorance can be fixed. Dishonesty can’t.
Credibility Dude. You are lacking.
lind
“America deserves respect as a member of the world community and will be restored to her greatness”
3/4 of the world hates us and always will. We remind them of what they will never be. Or in the case of Islamist nations we are the |Infidel. The principle of Liberty makes us hated to them. We represent what they must destroy in order to rule the world. Naive folks like you play right into their hands.
Call me simple minded if you will. But think of this. (to paraphrase someone who’s name escapes me) The better part of a billion people promises to wipe you from the face of the earth and proceeds to take actions on multiple occasions that prove that they are serious. And you don’t believe them? WTF
And you worry about world respect. From who, Brittain who is allowing Sharia courts in it’s nation? Who the phujjc want their respect?
slow down and spell check…
Heckler posted October 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Call me simple minded if you will.
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That’d be a huge understatement.
linda
“None are what your words paint them to be, none are as lacking as your visions.”
They all want the government to look out for them right? To cater to their every need?
John Green didn’t leave West Falen Germany and travel to Kansas in 1880 looking for a government to take care of his needs. He came for Liberty.
You are not my kind of people. I don’t understand your kind. Pitty or disgust? I don’t know which.
Sign the petition to investigate and stop ACORN from committing fraud and directing ACORN to clean up their registration act:
http://stopacorn.org/index.php?option=com_rsform&Itemid=5
Cosmos, buddy, your fit the pattern. Get your dhimitude on. Dude.
“Call me simple-minded if you will.” — the wefu.
linda
People like you say you love this country yet all of the policy changes that you seek are the antithesis to the founding principles of this nation. Why do you wish to turn this place into Europe?
Hey JM,
Haven’t you ever looked in a mirror before, or just can’t grasp the principal?
You can clearly see that is your reflection.
I tell ya what….go get someone to explain it to you, I’ve lost interest.
Heckler
Posted October 12, 2008 at 7:34 pm | Permalink
XXX
“That was back when the party was for smaller government and fiscal responsibility. ”
“I’m probably not going to find that in Obama, but I seriously doubt if he can screw things up any worse than Bush has”
I call Bullschidtt. You don’t hold those beliefs and then one day turn into a Marxist.
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No, you don’t. It was a process that took a few years. It happened when I learned that people come first, as before large corporations. It was when I learned that “by the people FOR the people really meant something.
Heck, you can call me all the names you want. I realize you, like most of your republican brethren, are scared out of your wits at what’s about to happen.
“And either a liar or woefully uninformed. Ignorance can be fixed. Dishonesty can’t. ”
Probably not in your case.
Don’t like what I have to say?
Scroll over, “dude”.
And consider what’s going to happen Nov 5.
Heh, heh, heh!
The Wall Street Journal:
WASHINGTON, Sept 18, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ — Is it “Patriotic” to raise taxes on small business?
Under Barack Obama’s tax plan, the bulk of small business profits would be subject to a higher tax rate. In the worldview of the Obama campaign, the increased tax burden would make small business owners and workers much more “patriotic” under the Obama plan.
“It’s time to be patriotic” said Obama running mate Sen. Joe Biden during an interview aired today on ABC’s Good Morning America, responding to questions on how to address the economic concerns of Americans. The interview may be viewed on the ABC News website at http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
BIDEN: “We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle class people.”
ABC NEWS, KATE SNOW: “Anybody making more than $250,000 is …”
BIDEN: “Is gonna pay more. It’s time to be patriotic, Kate. Time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to get America out of the rut.”
According to IRS data, two-thirds of small business profits are earned in households making at least $250,000 per year — those same households in the crosshairs of the Obama-Biden tax plan. By the Obama-Biden campaign’s own admission, this tax rate would approach 50 percent.
“Samuel Johnson once said ‘patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel,’” said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. “I say tax increases are the last refuge of politicians who won’t govern, and Obama and Biden have put the two ideas together.”
Obama himself has admitted that his tax hike plan would affect economic behavior. During an interview aired during the Sept. 7 edition of ABC’s This Week, host George Stephanopoulos asked Obama if he would still enact tax increases if there was a recession upon taking office.
Obama replied: “I think we’ve got to take a look and see where the economy is. I mean, the economy is weak right now. The news with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae I think, along with the unemployment numbers, indicates that we’re fragile.”
(View the interview at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7fSZiZG91o )
“Obama knows his tax plan will hurt the economy,” said Norquist. “The only question he has is whether to raise taxes now or later.”
McCain vs. Obama on Taxes: Which April 15 would you rather have?
http://www.atr.org/content/pdf/2008/August/082508pr-ObamaMcCain%20Matrix.pdf
The following Wall Street Journal Opinion article offers support for the assertions:
1) Raising tax on the so-called rich savages small business owners which leads to the destruction of jobs
2) State government intervention in certain states has led to migration of jobs to States with more pro-business climate…Obama wants more gov intervention
3) Increased unionization has also led to transfer of jobs to right to work States…Obama wants to significantly increase unionization
Of all the elements of Obama’s economic plan, the least discussed, but potentially the most damaging for the longest period, is his ideas to increase the strength of Unions. Pandering-induced concessions to his union backers in seemingly small ways can have huge negative impact on the prosperity of the United States.Take this idea:
Mr. Obama would expand unionism by denying workers the right to a secret ballot on the decision to form a union
Remember during the Democrat primary season in those States without secret ballots …ie the caucus States, Obama’s army of extremist so-called progressive Obamatrons were able to achieve dramatic victories. However in many cases there have been reports of voter intimidation. These are currently being chronicled by caucus attendees.
Removal of secret ballots in the workplace is a recipe for intimidation and extremism, This tactic has been successfully used for generations in Europe to guarantee the union’s membership stay in line with its leaders, who oftentimes hold far more extreme political views than the membership.
Indeed where similar ideas were adopted in Europe, Union’s grew in strength to the point where they could topple Government. Some European countries including our great allies the British experienced decades of resistance to the New Information Economy with a resulting fall in national prosperity.
Unless you want to suffer from the negative consequences of Euro-Socialism this gives you another compelling reason to say no to Obama.
Published: Thursday, October 9, 2008
Obama tax plan would hurt small businesses
With Sen. Barack Obama’s recent visit to the Granite State last month, I feel it’s important the citizens of New Hampshire understand what an Obama presidency would do to small businesses here in our state.
Small businesses are vital to our economy, encompassing nearly 97 percent of New Hampshire’s employer firms. The spirit of entrepreneurship is alive and well in New Hampshire’s small business community, but sadly Obama’s payroll tax hike, income tax hike, and health-care proposal would stifle growth and cause many small businesses to suffer.
Even the Wall Street Journal agreed that raising the personal income tax rates would stunt small business entrepreneurship, yet this is the solution the Democrats bring to the table for improving our economy.
We cannot stand by and let small businesses be taxed even more. Entrepreneurship should be encouraged, but under an Obama administration it would be taxed to death.
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“And consider what’s going to happen Nov 5.
Heh, heh, heh!”
Yeah, credibility means nothing, only winning.
The Obama campaign maintains that the number of small-business owners is what’s important. Economists know what matters is the tax rate that’s applied to the bulk of small-business income. Make no mistake about it: Obama’s plan to raise taxes on households making more than $250,000 will raise taxes on most small-business profits in America.
What type of tax rate are we talking about? Currently, S corporations face a top tax rate of 35 percent, while sole proprietors and general partners face a tax rate of 37.9 percent (since they’re responsible for paying both income tax and the Medicare component of the payroll tax).
Under Obama’s plan to let the scheduled 2011 tax rate hikes occur, and his plan to raise the self-employment tax on those making more than $250,000, the S corporation rate would rise from 35 percent to 39.6 percent. The sole proprietor and partner rate would rise from 37.9 percent all the way up to a staggering 50.3 percent. Many Democrats in Congress have proposed making all small businesses (including S corporations) pay this 50-plus percent rate. A small business tax rate that high would be the highest marginal rate faced by them in nearly a quarter-century.
What would a world look like where two-thirds of all small-business income would be taxed at a 50 percent rate? The economic law that “taxing something more and getting less of it” would apply. Fewer Americans would be interested in opening or expanding small businesses. Tax evasion and legal tax avoidance would spike, as tax shelters would once again become a booming industry. Since small businesses create a majority of jobs in America, Main Street closing up shop will have a direct impact on the family budget, as well. Plants and equipment will go unused. Despite the misguided opinions of static scorers in Washington, federal tax revenues will likely decline as the economy staggers into a full-on recession.
The point is that behind the facade of only raising taxes on the “rich,” Obama’s plan will hurt small businesses by reducing the incentive to open a small business in the first place. Small businesses will essentially be working 4-6 months out of the year for the federal government, which will then turn around and use their money inefficiently and uneffectively on failed programs.
Heritage.org shows that Obama’s plan will give America one of the highest tax rates in the industrialized world
XXX
““by the people FOR the people really meant something.”
Try “by the government for the government”.
If Obama promises $800 billion in new spending and will supposedly cut taxes, how on Earth will Obama pay for all of the grandiose programs he has proposed. It is clear that taxing the rich won’t pay for all of the new spending. James Pethokoukis points out this error in thinking:
Now he (Obama) claims he’s paid “for every element of this economic agenda—by ending a war that’s costing us billions, closing tax loopholes for corporations, putting a price on carbon pollution, and ending George Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans.”
But I don’t think that adds up. Take, for instance, eliminating those Bush tax cuts on top earners. That might gain $50 billion a year, assuming no negative economic effect. But Congressional Budget Office estimates already assume that the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of 2010. So Obama gains nothing beyond, perhaps, a one-year bump in 2010 if he repeals the tax cuts a year earlier.
The net result is that you have spending vastly outgrowing tax revenue. In order to account for this rise in spending, Obama will have to tax more than just the rich. Even with Obama’s class warfare, he cannot account for his new spending plans.
While I’m sure most have seen this before it is just as relevant today as before, and probably more important for folks to realize.
‘While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old rancher, who’s hand was caught in the gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our president.
The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘Post Turtle’.
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘post turtle’ was.
The old rancher said, ‘When your driving down a country road on you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.
The old rancher saw the puzzled look on the doctor’s face so he continued to explain. ‘You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, and he doesn’t know what to do while he’s up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put him up there to begin with.’
That’s an easy question to answer….the Party of the DimLibs!!!
“They all want the government to look out for them right?”
Don’t you? What are you, an idiot?
Would you like a country with no regulations on say…food safety? Maybe no minimum wage or occupational safety regs?
At the tender mercy of your employer may be working out for you heckler. But it is only …gasp!… government interference that puts a floor under how little you can be paid or how poorly you can be treated.
Psssst! If Obama lifts the wage ceiling on Social Security he is going to be a liar. Because Obama promised NOT to raise taxes on those making under 250K, remember?
Biggest Losers Under Obama’s Plan to Remove the Current $102k Wage Ceiling for Social Security Taxes
Tax Foundation: Obama’s Plan to Abolish the Social Security Wage Ceiling: A State-by-State Breakdown, by Gerald Prante:
It is commonly observed that the policy ideas of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are almost identical, but Obama does have one major tax proposal that Clinton does not specifically endorse: eliminating the wage ceiling for Social Security taxes. …
[T]here has always been a ceiling on the tax, an amount of annual wages above which the tax does not apply. Right now, the wage ceiling is quite high, $102,000 for a single person … In 2008, the maximum Social Security tax for a single person is 12.4% of the first $102,000 in wages, or $12,648.
Reporters have asked Obama how he can propose to abolish the wage ceiling and also keep his promise not to raise taxes on anyone who makes less than $200,000 or $250,000 (Obama has cited both figures). His response is that he might campaign for a “donut hole” in the Social Security tax. That is, wages up to the ceiling would be taxed as usual, followed by a non-taxable amount up to $200,000 or $250,000, and then all wages above that would be taxed.
In the table below we give a state-by-state breakdown of those three scenarios: (1) wage ceiling is eliminated, (2) wage ceiling eliminated but with a donut hole up to $200,000, and (3) wage ceiling eliminated but with a donut hole up to $250,000.
Here are the ten states that would be hardest hit by Obama’s proposal (along with the percentage of the state’s workers who would see their taxes increase under the Obama plan):
New Jersey (10.7%)
Maryland (9.6%)
Connecticut (9.5%)
Virginia (9.0%)
Massachusetts (8.9%)
California (8.8%)
New York (8.0%)
Illinois (7.02%)
Colorado (6.96%)
New Hampshire (6.8%)
Here are the ten states that would be least affected by Obama’s proposal (along with the percentage of the state’s workers who would see their taxes increase under the Obama plan):
Montana (2.4%)
North Dakota (2.6%)
South Dakota (2.9%)
West Virginia (3.38%)
Nebraska (3.41%)
Idaho (3.44%)
Wyoming (3.45%)
Iowa (3.5%)
Kentucky (3.6%)
Mississippi (3.7%)
“Even with Obama’s class warfare, he cannot account for his new spending plans.”
RoaCH, he’s betting on the stupidity of his constituency not being able to figure that out, and only hearing what they want….that they are going to get something….FOR FREE!!!.
Heck, you can call me all the names you want. I realize you, like most of your republican brethren, are scared out of your wits at what’s about to happen. - XXX
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I see that written a lot. But why would a Republican be “scared” of an Obama win, other than knowing it is bad for the country? It’s not like the ‘crats will get benefits that we don’t receive. And so, unless the ‘crats are full of sh*t, which is definitely possible, it’s gonna be great. And we all get to share in the Obama bounty. Woo hoo!
Actually, I have never experienced an election that has changed my life what so ever. And if you are hopeing that this one will, your hope is misplaced.
By ROBERT KROL
Cal State Northridge Economics Professor
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Missing from much of the discussion about the Democratic presidential primary campaign is what Barack Obama has said on taxes. Judging from the most-recent televised debate and campaign information, he either doesn’t have a clue about the consequences of higher taxes, or he’s just a mindless soldier of class warfare.
Obama has run a campaign focused on hope and change. He claims his administration would provide economic relief for the little guy who has been ignored so long in Washington. However, Obama’s tax policies would do just the opposite.
If elected, Obama has stated he would push for a sizable tax increase to fund greater spending. He advocates for an increase in income taxes, capital-gains taxes and corporate taxes. These tax hikes would seriously harm the economy and provide only modest revenue gains.
In contrast, John McCain has indicated his support for extending the Bush income tax cuts. McCain’s plan includes reducing the corporate income tax rate to 25 percent. He wants to simplify the tax code and phase out the alternative minimum tax. These tax policies would promote growth and job creation. They would also boost wages.
The income tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 are scheduled to end in 2010. If this is allowed to happen, it would amount to the largest income tax increase in the post-World War II period. Obama is OK with this increase for individuals earning more than $200,000 a year, while McCain wants the lower tax rates to be maintained.
Obama is so blinded by a class-warfare view of the economy that he misses the fact that the income of small and medium-size businesses (proprietorships, partnerships and limited shareholder companies) are subject to taxation under the income tax, not the corporate tax. His income tax increase would hit these businesses hard.
BlueJay,
You’ve never EARNED THE RESPECT of an employer, that’s why you lie down and expect the government to do it for you.
“Actually, I have never experienced an election that has changed my life what so ever. And if you are hopeing that this one will, your hope is misplaced.”
AMEN!!!
“EARNED THE RESPECT ”
Just exactly what does THAT get you without government wage and safety standards as a base?
“Good job!”? “You can have a day off THIS month.”?
WHERE’S THE MONEY??????
WHERE’S THE BEEF???????
Where on earth will Obama get the new money needed to fund all these new programs?
The top 5%
HA-HA-HA! HEHEHE! HOHOHO! NO WAY JOSE!!! NOT ENOUGH MONEY.
Here are the priciest parts:
A $65 billion-a-year health plan
$15 billion in green energy spending
$85 billion in tax cuts and credits
A $25 billion-a-year increase in foreign aid
$18 billion a year in education spending
$3.5 billion for a national service plan
Put it all together, and we are talking about a $200 billon plan, $800 billion over four years. And that does not even include fixing the alternative minimum tax, a $50 billion-a-year item that will assuredly get passed.
Very well said Boxlock. Very well said:
“so, unless the ‘crats are full of sh*t, which is definitely possible, it’s gonna be great. And we all get to share in the Obama bounty. Woo hoo!”
Their over enthusaism reminds me of the song:
They’re coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They’re coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I’ll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they’re
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!
NOT spending 10 billion dollars a month in Iraq is a start.
Plenty of fat in the military budget too.
NO!NO!NO!
NOT spending 10 billion dollars a month in Iraq is a start.
BLUEJAY you can’t bet up the Bush for spending 10 billion dollars a day of money WE DON’T HAVE, and then advocate OBAMA spending it.
NO! NO! NO!
That doesn’t work!!!
beat up Bush vice bet up bush.
“Put it all together, and we are talking about a $200 billon plan, $800 billion over four years. And that does not even include fixing the alternative minimum tax, a $50 billion-a-year item that will assuredly get passed.”
That costs less than the two failed wars. The major difference is that Obama would be investing the money in America, not like the Republicans who invested three trillion in destroying two countries. Republicans hate America so much they’d rather spend hundreds billions in a foreign country rather than spend it here.
The $200 billion is $165 billion less than McCain’s nuclear power program which would see results until a decade later.
So were was the Messiah Obama born Hawaii or Kenya? Interesting information here:
http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3324
That’s why the bush tax cut has to go.
That’s why the bush repeal of capital gains taxes has to go.
That is why the estate tax must be re-instated.
“EARNED THE RESPECT ”
“Just exactly what does THAT get you without government wage and safety standards as a base?”
…BlueJay
Well, it’s worked for me. I’ve always found that when I am working toward the same goals as the organization or individual I am working for, or with, that I do okay. If not I leave.
BUT, I don’t go crying to the government or someone else to do it for me.
Oh BlueJay, I full well realize we need government, but we need it to stay out of our way except to ensure national security and guard against criminal behavior and exploitation of others along with a few other things, time constrains not going into.
George, Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii isn’t in Kenya, it’s in the USA.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
“Missing from much of the discussion about the Democratic presidential primary campaign is what Barack Obama has said on taxes.” — RoaCH
Well, DAMN!!! An article from WAY back during the PRIMARY!! Ummmm —- We are a LONG ways past Primary now, ROACH!!! Idiot!
“That’s why the bush repeal of capital gains taxes has to go.”
And slow investment which makes the economy go and grow?
“That is why the estate tax must be re-instated.”
Why? Why should the fruits of a man’s labor be taken from where he wants it to go when he dies. It’s not yours BlueJay.
If a man earns it he should be able to decide where it will go as long as it harms no one.
Your whole concept of how the world should work would make me want to sit on my ass, like I imagine you are, frankly.
Maggot —- That comment from george should tell you how BAD they are floundering…. That was debunked a LONG time ago!!
Remembr that looney bin who tried to file a law suit??? Nary a word from him since the Dem. convention!! ROFL!!!
The lunacy just wont stop!! Not even when McCain tells it to stop!!
“BUT, I don’t go crying to the government or someone else to do it for me.”
Maybe not you personally.
Business DID go to the government to establish “right to work” laws. THESE cripple the ability of workers to collectively bargain with their employers. That’s ONE example of business using government against its employees. Sort of the reverse of what you accuse lil’ ol’ me of?
You won’t read it. But I highly recommend Thomas Frank’s “The Wrecking Crew”.
Yes Chas, it was a Hillary supporter who first brought up the charge, researched it, then concluded Obama was born in Hawaii. The Repukes have no facts to argue so they have to try another lie.
They lied about Obama being a Muslim. They lied about Obama attending a Muslim university at age six. They lied about Obama being a member of the Weather Underground at age eight. They lied about Obama bearing children out of wedlock. They lied about Obama being an Arab. And now they have to lie about him being born in Kenya. Is there nothing they won’t lie about?
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Heckler
Posted October 12, 2008 at 8:19 pm | Permalink
XXX
“And consider what’s going to happen Nov 5.
Heh, heh, heh!”
Yeah, credibility means nothing, only winning.
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Are you talking about Bush in 2000?
““That is why the estate tax must be re-instated.”
Take it up with Teddy Roosevelt boxlock.
“Why should the fruits of a man’s labor be taken from where he wants it to go when he dies. It’s not yours BlueJay.”
5 million dollars is HARDLY the fruits of your average American’s life labors. THAT was the threshold of the estate tax.
I can ssee Boxlicker now… All wrapped up in his Flag to keep him warm… Bible clutched under one arm to Save him… Wearing a BIG gold Cross to announce his Faith…. and hanging on tight to his oh so precious GUN!!! No doubt the same one from which he takes his Nic…. And that leaves nowhere to take a stand for America!!
Yep, yep, yep… they live among us, and, they VOTE!!
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Heckler
Posted October 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm | Permalink
XXX
““by the people FOR the people really meant something.”
Try “by the government for the government”.
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Even that’s better than “by big business for big business”. republicans have let their big business buddies steal everything that isn’t nailed down.
Maggotpunk…. the other nite, I heard some idiot caller on a talk radio show, making the claim that Obama is really “hiding” his age, and that he was a part of the Manson Family…. Hey, they keep trying!! Times of desperation!!
The worst part of it was that the talk show HOST encouraged the guy to get that “news” out to everybody opposed to “the One”
If you. Boxlock, or any of the cons will read the book I suggest, you will see how it is we came to the fix we are in.
It isn’t business vs. government. It hasn’t been for the most part the last 25 years. It is is business IN government and the revolving door between the two.
So Republicans think Obama played a part in killing Sharon Tate when he was eight? Maybe it’s Democrats putting out these absurd stories to make Republicans look insane? Nah, they have a good track record of embarrassing themselves.
It is is business IN government
No, it is government IN my every aspect of our lives which is ruining America.
You can’t take a crap without government interference.
“Business DID go to the government to establish “right to work” laws. THESE cripple the ability of workers to collectively bargain with their employers.”
…BlueJay
Why should ‘workers’, unless they have ownership and share in the risk, have a right to collectively bargain. They don’t manage the company.
They can always leave if they don’t like the terms of employment.
If an employer can’t find workers then he must ’sweeten the pot’, so to speak, to attract them.
Unions and minimum wages have been largely responsible for driving so much work overseas and south of the border.
I company whose products I sell has (had) manufacturing plants in California and South Carolina. They recently closed the plant in CA and moved all production to S.C. because of taxes, unemployment insurance and other oppressive California burdens placed on them. All those workers lost their jobs, period and the company abandoned California completely, simply to avoid becoming non-competitive due to employee costs that had to be reflected in their product.
This was no small company either, but one of the largest spinners of high pressure cylinders. They couldn’t stay price competitive with another that was utilizing illegal Mexican labor, which they would not do, so they moved.
A lot of people lost jobs, would have anyway, but the company will survive now.
Maggot, I dont know if that caller was a Republican…. Just know he was part of the lunatic fringe…. Definitely a “white power” type…
Boxlicker sounds like a good little Anti-Union, Anti-American Facist….
Here’s one for you whackos,
Obama is really a love child of the manson family, Charles is his real father!
Ah I SEE Boxlock.
As a salesman who himself produces NOTHING except profit for your company it is in YOUR best interest to lower American labor wages and standards to the level of Chinese slave labor? So YOU can sell more.
Is that about right?
Take down your American flag if you have one Boxlock. Put up one with your picture on it. Or maybe just a dollar sign.
Ok, looks like with 3 weeks to go McCain/Palin have decided to launch Operation Swift Boat 2008.
It’s late, but they’re desperate.
Me, I’m thinking the country ain’t in the mood for a third Bush term, but hey it’s their dime.
Quiet….ya FAKE PREACHER!
Like I said, a ‘fake preacher’, and one that can’t control his temper or his tongue.
Remember…”but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.”
Are ya a strong swimmer Chas….maybe not strong enough (?).
Did Obama have a girl friend he did not tell us about? No kiss and tell. More dirt, who knows.
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/who-is-vera-baker-and-why-is-she-in-martinique/
BlueJay,
You are simply an imbecile about economics and business. The company doesn’t exist for the workers…got it?
The company I was referring to would have gone completely out of business if they had not moved from the oppressive business climate of California. The workers would lose their jobs no matter what because of excessively high, non-competitive wages and high state taxation.
Oh…and BlueJay, our business imbecile, the salesman is where it all comes together. Without buyers there is no production, no production no workers, so….the salesman produces sales, nitwit, and enables there to be jobs for workers.
From the Tax Foundation, quoted but unattributed above:
Sen. McCain’s tax plan also changes marginal tax rates by proposing to replace the tax exclusion for employer-provided insurance with a new health tax credit. Although taxpayers would pay less in total, the marginal tax rate would rise in some income ranges.
“Between $15,000 and $20,000, and between $90,000 and $110,000, some families would be bumped up into a higher tax bracket,” said Carroll.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/press/show/23727.html
Now I know why “Regular” was upset when I clip-and-posted the bit from the Monty Python script –
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-09/new-footage-from-inside-palins-church/#
;^)
BlueJay,
You are simply an imbecile
So why do you keep taking the bait, heh?
This link might work better –
http://tinyurl.com/3nk3kx
“Between $15,000 and $20,000, and between $90,000 and $110,000, some families would be bumped up into a higher tax bracket,”
And God Bless him. MCCain never lied and said he would cut taxes for 95% of Americans.
Hey Monkeyhawk,
Why would I want to look inside someone’s church?
I don’t want to look inside YOUR church, or anyone else’s for that matter. Not even Obama’s.
Your link is just more crazy anti-religious democrat crap which makes no sense as most Americans claim to be religious. Even dims.
You can call me names all you like Boxlock.
That will not stop your party losing this election.
“You’ve never EARNED THE RESPECT of an employer, ”
But then you proceed to tell me and everyone else that earning the respect of an employer is irrelevant.
Ya have to be ready willing and able to compete with slave labor or out goes you.
Unless of course, you’re a salesman like Boxlock who makes nothing.
And you have MORE!
“The company doesn’t exist for the workers”
Added to…
“Why should ‘workers’, unless they have ownership and share in the risk, have a right to collectively bargain. They don’t manage the company.
They can always leave if they don’t like the terms of employment.”
If you MEAN that workers exist for the company? Why not just say so?
Hello feudalism.
You really don’t care about America, Americans, human rights, or much of anything more than yourself at all DO you Boxlock?
Please try to understand Britain who is allowing Sharia courts. This is like accepting arbitration but by a religious body and ONLY for participants who CHOOSE to use the tribunals.
Many very religious Muslims want a religious body to oversee things like divorce. They feel a secular court handles things more in accordance with their beliefs.
It is entirely voluntary.
Sarah Palin on Saturday said “So no, not having done anything wrong, and again very much appreciating being cleared of any legal wrongdoing or unethical activity at all.”
The report states: “I find that Governor Sarah Palin Abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act … Compliance with the code of ethics is not optional…”
[Aww gee. She can't even say, "I'm sorry." She just lies about being "cleared." - db]
Adapted from: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/palin-makes-tro.html
“You really don’t care about America, Americans, human rights, or much of anything more than yourself at all DO you Boxlock?”
…BlueJay
Sure I do BlueJay, but if I’m on the government dole, and you, if everyone’s on the government dole, whose is left to produce?
I have to be most concerned with the welfare and well being of myself and my family FIRST, and THEN and ONLY THEN can I possible contribute to helping anyone else.
BlueJay, I gave over $6000 to charity last year alone….what the hell are you doing?
Don’t you lecture me, you don’t even provide health care for you son, and from what you posted in the past take pride in stealing a bag of dirt from a retailer. Damn….that’s sad.
You bet I want more….so that I don’t become a slug on society like so many are perfectly happy to be anymore. It’s amazing how need motivates people that can’t be motivated to work any other way, so need is justified.
Chas
Posted October 12, 2008 at 9:28 pm | Permalink
Boxlicker sounds like a good little Anti-Union, Anti-American Facist….
And CHAS doesn’t sound anything like a preacher or a prophet. To date we have no record of a CHAS or anyone ELSE from Kansas writing the US Chaplain Corps (Navy) regarding Gunnery Sergeant Nathan Price.
At this point, I can only conclude the Chaplain Corps will never receive such letter. The US Postal Service is slow with snail mail, but not THAT slow.
Chas=liar
Chas NE Chaplain
I’m not sure I’m supposed to post anything else today.
Let’s see…teste teste..
Ahhh, the spiel I wanted to say didn’t even rate “awaiting moderation”, it just won’t take at all. And it was a gem, wish you all couls read it.
Funny, anyone reading it…riiiiiight.
Kids, here is the story about the guy who started the “Obama is a Muslim” lie: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
The Man Behind the Whispers about Obama
“A law school graduate, his admission to the Illinois state bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of “moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.”
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!
More:
“His newfound prominence, and the persistence of his line of political attack — updated regularly on his Web site and through press releases — amazes those from his past.”
“Well, that’s just a bookend for me,” said Tom Slade, a former chairman of the Florida Republican Party who says the party spent hundreds of thousands of dollars defending against lawsuits Mr. Martin brought for Mr. Slade’s refusal to support his bid for state office. “He’s crazy as a run-over dog. But he’s fearless.”
WHahhahahahahah
Featured on Fox, of course
Alaska Law:
AS 39.52.110. Scope of Code.
(a) The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust. In addition, the legislature finds that, so long as it does not interfere with the full and faithful discharge of an officer’s public duties and responsibilities, this chapter does not prevent an officer from following other independent pursuits. The legislature further recognizes that
(1) in a representative democracy, the representatives are drawn from society and, therefore, cannot and should not be without personal and financial interests in the decisions and policies of government;
(2) people who serve as public officers retain their rights to interests of a personal or financial nature; and
(3) standards of ethical conduct for members of the executive branch need to distinguish between those minor and inconsequential conflicts that are unavoidable in a free society, and those conflicts of interests that are substantial and material.
AS 39.52.320. Dismissal Before Formal Proceedings.
If, after investigation, it appears that there is no probable cause to believe that a violation of this chapter has occurred, the attorney general shall dismiss the complaint. The attorney general shall communicate disposition of the matter promptly to the complainant under AS 39.52.335 (c) and to the subject of the complaint.
AS 39.52.330. Corrective or Preventive Action.
After determining that the conduct of the subject of a complaint does not warrant a hearing under AS 39.52.360 , the attorney general shall recommend action to correct or prevent a violation of this chapter. The attorney general shall communicate the recommended action to the complainant and the subject of the complaint. The subject of the complaint shall comply with the attorney general’s recommendation.
AS 39.52.410. Violations; Penalties For Misconduct.
(a) If the personnel board determines that a public employee has violated this chapter, it
(1) shall order the employee to stop engaging in any official action related to the violation;
(2) may order divestiture, establishment of a blind trust, restitution, or forfeiture; and
(3) may recommend that the employee’s agency take disciplinary action, including dismissal.
(d) If the personnel board finds a violation of this chapter by a public officer removable from office only by impeachment, it shall file a report with the president of the Senate, with its finding. The report must contain a statement of the facts alleged to constitute the violation.
AS 39.52.440. Civil Penalties.
The personnel board may impose on a current or former public officer civil penalties not to exceed $5,000 for a violation of this chapter. A penalty imposed under this section is in addition to and not instead of any other penalty that may be imposed according to law.
specifically provided, this chapter applies to all public officers within executive-branch agencies, including members of boards or commissions. This chapter does not apply to
(1) a former public officer of an executive-branch agency unless a provision specifically states that it so applies;
(2) legislators covered by AS 24.60; or
(3) the University of Alaska and an employee of the University of Alaska as to activities or employment under a contract between the employee and the university described in AS 14.40.210 (a)(4).
(b) The provisions of this chapter supersede the common law on conflicts of interests that may apply to a public officer of an executive-branch agency and any personnel rules relating to conflicts of interests, excluding nepotism, adopted under AS 39.25. However, nothing in this chapter precludes a prosecution under an applicable criminal statute nor prevents enforcement of any other state law that imposes a stricter standard of ethical conduct on public officers.
The report does not recommend penalties against Palin, or a criminal investigation.
Palin’s lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, said he disagreed with the finding that his client violated the statute.
“In order to violate the ethics law, there has to be some personal gain, usually financial. Mr. Branchflower has failed to identify any financial gain,” he said.
Alaskan legislators voted Friday on whether to do one of four things: release the lengthy report, recommend the case be closed, have another committee continue to probe the matter, or hand it over to criminal investigators.
The panel has not yet voted on whether to endorse the report’s findings.
Following the report’s release, some lawmakers expressed skepticism over its findings.
“I think there are some problems in this report,” said Republican state Senator Gary Stevens, a member of the panel. “I would encourage people to be very cautious, to look at this with a jaundiced eye.”
“Ethics don’t matter” Bill Clinton is quoted as saying while wiping his dick on Monica’s Blue Dress
You are becoming incoherent Boxlock. And you are NOT getting it.
“, whose is left to produce?”
But you have TOLD us. YOU do not produce anything. YOU sell a product made by cheap, foreign labor. The workers in those foreign countries are not paying taxes to the United States.
“I have to be most concerned with the welfare and well being of myself and my family FIRST, and THEN and ONLY THEN can I possible contribute to helping anyone else.” But to DO this, you embrace the subversion of American labor wage and treatment standards? THEN you will give back?
Well hell you’re a saint boxlock!
“Don’t you lecture me”
I’m not. I’m making you jump around like a frog on a hot rock.
BlueJay,
Here is another little economics lesson you seem to have failed to learn.
This year and undoubtedly next I will not be giving $6000+ away, but maybe only $4000.
Know why? I didn’t think so.
Because of market condition, me not working as hard, and with the meltdown of the stock market I don’t have it to give.
See how that works guy?
Now who’s hurt, not just me but those that I gave to as well. Watch who you want to hurt, it may come back at many others, including you eventually.
“But you have TOLD us. YOU do not produce anything. YOU sell a product made by cheap, foreign labor. The workers in those foreign countries are not paying taxes to the United States.”
I never said anything of the kind…please TRY to pay attention.
I make sales so the manufactures have people who buy what they produce….I manufacture sales.
And I never said I “sell a product made by cheap, foreign labor”.
You are now lying again to make yourself seem relevant, but….you’re not.
BlueJay, you are not making me jump at all….I am actually trying to help you by helping you understand you will never achieve anything sitting on your ass feeling sorry for yourself and blaming everybody in the world who has achieved more than you, which I imagine is just about everybody.
If you can’t lift yourself out of the mire your are in certainly no one can or will do it for you, not even your precious government programs and high taxation.
BlueJay….sorry to say, but I’d rather be a animal than live like you.
I get it Boxlock.
Your concern for your fellow man hinges on your own personal wealth.
YOU first.
You damn right BlueJay, you damn right.
And until you lift yourself up you will never be anything but a drag on the rest of the world.
Sweet dreams. Mine will be….I get to go to work tomorrow.
How about you BlueJay, how about you?
“.I manufacture sales.”
I’ll just let that one stand.
hey george, maybe because she lives there?? and the lunatics abound!!
Boxlicker being one of the biggest loonies here…. You have the unmitigated gall to tell ME to shut up, and call me names???
And then quote Scripture??? You old fart, YOU are the one lying, and leading the young ones astray, by all of your racism, and your incessant LYING!!
I’ll be actually making something tomorrow and helping someone out there Boxlock.
And my dreams WILL be sweet. A Democratic House, Senate, AND President? Imagine the good there is to be done.
the only person who creates a sale, is the consumer. the sales person merely facilitates the sale… the sale is created in the mind of the buyer…
i would hope in tough economic times, we would ALL remember that one simple thing….
BlueJay says: Your concern for your fellow man hinges on your own personal wealth.
But what he lives by: My concern as your fellow man hinges on taking your personal wealth.
What the Troopergate Report Really Says’
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html
“But even though she won’t likely face any legal repercussions, the amateurism and cronyism of her brief administration hardly leaves Palin sitting pretty. Troopergate’s final verdict may be even more damaging than a rebuke: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists she hopes to unseat.”
Good night fake preacher!
BlueJay says: Imagine the good there is to be done.
I can’t imagine anything good which will be done.
Bluejay: What do you imagine good will be done?
What do you imagine will happen in your own personal life “good” by a straight one party system?
Can you be specific because many dims have made a point of our standard of living being less than our parents (because of Bush).
What specifically will improve (good) in your life when dims take the cake and eat it too?
boxlicker is most to be pitied… he finally says straight forward, he cares nothing about himself, and his own personal wealth!!
that would be most reflective of ALL of the posts ever put up here by the Boxlicker…. Give him his Guns, and his God, and his Hate, and he will be the sorriest mogrel on the Blog…. but dont tell him… he THINKS he is happy!!!
Cosmos, can you prove your statement: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists
Or is it just more political crap?
And you were referring to our democrat majority in the US Congress weren’t you?
“the only person who creates a sale, is the consumer. the sales person merely facilitates the sale… the sale is created in the mind of the buyer…”
Again you see through the glass dimly Chas, like with everything else.
The buyer is many times unaware of the product or what that product can do.
But you are half right, the sale is created in the mind of the buyer, usually by a good salesman.
BlueJay Says: he THINKS he is happy!!!
When Bluejay wants the federal government to decide who should be happy.
BlueJay is a grasshopper. Only a Dim Washington will keep him from freezing with the falling snow.
I ask you Chas, straight out….what the hell do you give anybody except just that….hell.
“My concern as your fellow man hinges on taking your personal wealth.”
I’ll own that. Provisionally anyway.
I don’t imagine you add to society anymore than Boxlock does there “RoaCH”. But I bet you enjoy benefits off the labor of others, don’t you?
And Boxlicker proves once again that its all about HIM (in his own narrow mind) —- Claiming now to be a mind controller of a salesman…. Dont that make you PROUD of your sorry self??? I got news for you, old coot…. YOU dont plant anything in the mind of the buyer — unless you are selling your products to mentally ill people…. people who can be persuaded by ANYthing, or ANYbody….. How sweet of you for making that confession of your sales philosophy!!
Yea, Boxlicker, I do…. I offer people a message of hope… And people, except for the likes of you and your kind, are EAGER to follow the Vision of HOPE….
You??? All you want is the next SALE….
How sad….
“boxlicker is most to be pitied… he finally says straight forward, he cares nothing about himself, and his own personal wealth!!”
I can’t even follow that gibberish.
Chas, a begger has very little to give to anyone, and had never offered a job to anyone.
Notice how the fake preacher had now reverted to using profane language….”boxlicker”.
I’ve WON!!!
Oh, and Chas, I call you by your chosen nic, calling you a fake preacher is a description and a truism.
Yea, let me sell you some hope and pass the hat. Ha!
Bye the way Chas, do you the same language in your ’sermons’ as you do here….or are you a two faced hypocrite? One of the two!
that’s ‘use the same language’.
If I come to one of your ’services’ will you introduce me as “boxlicker”?
What a fake!!!
BlueJay says:
But I bet you enjoy benefits off the labor of others, don’t you?
Where does this kind of thinking come from? Were you put in chains and whipped as a young child on some awful production line?
Golly gee BlueJay, I studied hard in school, paid my own way through college, got an entry level job in my profession and earned a reputation as a hard worker and became highly skilled at what I do.
I make very good money (I am thankful for that), and have raised my children to be contributing and independent self-sufficient adults.
I never looked at my employer as “the man” or the “bad guy” or the “evil corporation” out to work me to death.
I was just damn glad I got jobs and earned respect, and advancement.
There are peers and coworkers, and some who work on my staff - for me. But I never looked up or looked down at other workers the way you do.
What causes that?
Hey Reverend holiness Chas!
Is it getting close to your annual Christmas Tidings and rant? About time to start posting daily how “busy you are” with church and getting the place ready for all those Christmas services.
About time for you to start preaching to us all on the wonders of Christmas, how holy it is, and how wonderful you feel at that time of the year.
In other words, about time for you to put on your plastic face and fac your way through the holidays.
Pretending to praise the birth of Jesus Christ, but blog everynight spitting hate, evil, name-calling, and profanity.
Is that the Chas we all remember?
Liar. YOu are no priest.
its been a very long week…. and so….
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatver you conceive god to be….
blessings ALL!!
blessings on this Nation….
so mote it be!!
The only thing ordained of Chas is his potty mouth and being a patent liar. Or professional liar whichever fits.
See? It’s right there.
“There are peers and coworkers, and some who work on my staff - for me. ”
PRIDE in personal authority over someone else and their labor.
“But I never looked up or looked down at other workers the way you do.”
Uh yeah. You just…did.
BlueJay
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm | Permalink
I get it Boxlock.
Your concern for your fellow man hinges on your own personal wealth.
YOU first.
Boxlock
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm | Permalink
You damn right BlueJay, you damn right.
And until you lift yourself up you will never be anything but a drag on the rest of the world.
RoaCH,
We need to simply face it, BlueJay and his like are not willing to work as hard as you describe, but he wants what you have earned. Sick!
Wanting to achieve is a habit with me by now, I worked full time and went to school at the same time until I was about crazy. But I’ve gotten pretty much where I wanted to go. Not real far for myself, but my kids are both Master educated, one a structural engineer with an MBA, and the other a Physician’s Assistant Instructor with a Masters. That’s what I wanted to be able to provide. They did the work, I paid tuition and books and living expenses during their undergraduate time.
We are wasting our time…they seem unable to even comprehend.
Seems that the gibberish you speak of is your OWN gibberish, SALES DUDE….
BlueJay
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm | Permalink
I get it Boxlock.
Your concern for your fellow man hinges on your own personal wealth.
YOU first.
Boxlock
Posted October 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm | Permalink
You damn right BlueJay, you damn right.
And until you lift yourself up you will never be anything but a drag on the rest of the world.
McCain tussles with Palin over whipping up a mob mentality
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new…cle4926283.ece
I almost forgot —- It is nearing the time of the great Fall Festival, of the Feast of All Saints, the day after All Hallows Eve….
Let all prepare for the feast by gathering fall produce, and baking goods… For the Pastafarians, this means getting ready to prepare the spaghetti squash; and make ready a fine fall tomato sauce, flavored with your choice of flavorings…. meat; spices; cheeses; etc., etc.
Happy Holidays!!
Now the day is over; Night is drawing nigh;
Shadows of the evening; steal across the sky
HDChaplainCorps posted October 12, 2008 at 11:09 pm
“… and being a patent liar. Or professional liar whichever fits.”
————-
The WE Blog’s patent and/or professional liar is definitely multi-nic’d, “Kansas values”(sic) Regular.
And HANK weighed in under “HD”
We don’t hear enough from hank as the right sinks.
“BlueJay and his like are not willing to work as hard as you describe, but he wants what you have earned. Sick!”
But you and roach do not work Boxlock. Well, you don’t make anything anyway. And no I am not willing to suck off the labor of others for my living as YOU do. I make my own way WHILE helping others.
It is a great time in America. Maybe the best time I have known in my life.
America is ready and willing to embrace new ideas and challenges. No it WON’T come without some pain but nothing worthy ever does. This will be hard on the rich to get richer folk. But who cares about them anyway?
It seems that a recent new representative of the Republican Party “family values” has left the WE Blog after only a few short hours of posting.
A repost, in her memory. . .
CosmosNewandImproved posted October 9, 2008 at 9:31 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1009/#comment-443652
How does your goodbye greeting go Chas?
Something like this:
Good night.
Good luck.
God bless.
And may you all
get f*cked.
And may you wear out
more p*ssy then hand.
RoaCH posted October 12, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Cosmos, can you prove your statement: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists
————–
1) It’s NOT my “statement”
‘What the Troopergate Report Really Says’
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html
“But even though she won’t likely face any legal repercussions, the amateurism and cronyism of her brief administration hardly leaves Palin sitting pretty. Troopergate’s final verdict may be even more damaging than a rebuke: her administration was, at least this regard, just as self-motivated as the Washington fat cats and lobbyists she hopes to unseat.”
———-
2) Read the Troopergate report.
Editor in Chief, The National Review
A Conservative for Obama by Wick Allison.
My party has slipped its moorings. It’s time for a true pragmatist to lead the country.
THE MORE I LISTEN TO AND READ ABOUT “the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate,” the more I like him. Barack Obama strikes a chord with
me like no political figure since Ronald Reagan. To explain why, I need to explain why I am a conservative and what it means to me.
In 1964, at the age of 16, I organized the Dallas County Youth for Goldwater. My senior thesis at the University of Texas was on the conservative intellectual revival in America. Twenty years
later, I was invited by William F. Buckley Jr. to join the board of National Review. I later became its publisher.
Conservatism to me is less a political philosophy than a stance, a recognition of the fallibility of man and of man’s institutions. Conservatives respect the past not for its antiquity but because it represents, as G.K. Chesterton said, the democracy of the dead; it gives the benefit of the doubt to customs and laws tried and tested in the crucible of time. Conservatives are skeptical of abstract theories and utopian schemes, doubtful that government is wiser than its citizens, and always ready to test any political program against actual results.
Liberalism always seemed to me to be a system of “oughts.” We ought to do this or that because it’s the right thing to do, regardless of whether it works or not. It is a doctrine based on intentions, not results, on feeling good rather than doing good.
But today it is so-called conservatives who are cemented to political programs when they clearly don’t work. The Bush tax cuts-a solution for which there was no real problem and which he refused to end even when the nation went to war-led to huge deficit spending and a $3trillion growth in the federal debt. Facing this, John McCain pumps his conservative” credentials by proposing even bigger tax cuts. Meanwhile, a movement that once fought for limited government has presided over the greatest growth of government in our history. That is not conservatism; it is profligacy using conservatism as a mask.
Today it is conservatives, not liberals, who talk with alarming bellicosity about making the world “safe for democracy.” It is John McCain who says America’s job is to “defeat evil,” a theological expansion of the nation’s mission that would make George Washington cough out his wooden teeth.
This kind of conservatism, which is not conservative at all, has produced financial mismanagement, the waste of human lives, the loss of moral authority, and the wreckage of our economy that McCain now threatens to make worse.
Barack Obama is not my ideal candidate for president. (In fact, I made the maximum donation to John McCain during the primaries, when there was still hope he might come to his senses.) But I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history. I disagree with him on many issues. But those don’t matter as much as what Obama offers, which is a deeply conservative view of the world. Nobody can read Obama’s books (which, it is worth noting, he wrote himself) or listen to him speak without realizing that this is a thoughtful, pragmatic, and prudent man. It gives me comfort just to think that after eight years of George W. Bush we will have a president who has actually read the Federalist Papers.
Most important, Obama will be a realist. I doubt he will taunt Russia, as McCain has, at the very moment when our national interest requires it an ally. the crucial distinction in my mind is that, unlike John McCain, I am convinced he will hot impulsively take us into another war unless American national interests are directly threatened.
“Every great cause,” Eric Hoffer wrote, “begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” As a cause, conservatism may be dead. But as a stance, as a way of making judgments in a complex and difficult world. I believe it is very much alive in the instincts and predispositions of a liberal named Barack Obama.
outlander:
“The miracle is that McCain is hanging close in some polls.”
The most truthful statement ever uttered, uh, typed, by outlander. What does it mean?
“Yea, Boxlicker, I do…. I offer people a message of hope… And people, except for the likes of you and your kind, are EAGER to follow the Vision of HOPE…”
….the fake preacher Chas
Oh, and Chas just what “message of hope” do you offer? What is that hope based on? Where can your ‘flock’ derive it’s hope from. From the Biblical GOD of Abraham, Isac and Jacob, or from a god conjured up in their own mind, a god made in man’s image instead of the other way around, as you indicate every night, I quote, “whatver you conceive god to be…”.
Please explain these things for me and us all.
If you have a message of hope please share it here, I’m sure we are all interested.