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		<title>By: EduffVefPem</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-456407</link>
		<dc:creator>EduffVefPem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, I just landed on a website called reloramax that says it contains natural ingredients that are effective for stress relief and weight management. What you say?

http://tiny.cc/PVaSE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I just landed on a website called reloramax that says it contains natural ingredients that are effective for stress relief and weight management. What you say?</p>
<p><a href="http://tiny.cc/PVaSE" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/PVaSE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Freebird1971</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445409</link>
		<dc:creator>Freebird1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlueJay
Posted October 12, 2008 at 9:39 am &#124; Permalink
Welcome to another day closer to Progressive victory!
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Which will mean the same as a con victory and that is buisness as usual in government</description>
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Posted October 12, 2008 at 9:39 am | Permalink<br />
Welcome to another day closer to Progressive victory!<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Which will mean the same as a con victory and that is buisness as usual in government</p>
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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445402</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get the plank out of your own eye and maybe I&#039;ll listen to you.&#039;
But I seriously doubt you even know it&#039;s there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get the plank out of your own eye and maybe I&#8217;ll listen to you.&#8217;<br />
But I seriously doubt you even know it&#8217;s there.</p>
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		<title>By: mxyzptlk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445399</link>
		<dc:creator>mxyzptlk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Boxlock. Just trying to show you how class/political hatred is the same no matter how righteous you think you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Boxlock. Just trying to show you how class/political hatred is the same no matter how righteous you think you are.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445396</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to another day closer to Progressive victory!</description>
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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445388</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t fret mxyzptlk, I would never &#039;shove a fork into your stomach&#039;.
You are so full of rotten gas I&#039;d be afraid to do that.
But it interesting to see you squirm and squeal when you get figuratively poked a little.
Typical of small people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t fret mxyzptlk, I would never &#8217;shove a fork into your stomach&#8217;.<br />
You are so full of rotten gas I&#8217;d be afraid to do that.<br />
But it interesting to see you squirm and squeal when you get figuratively poked a little.<br />
Typical of small people.</p>
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		<title>By: mxyzptlk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445382</link>
		<dc:creator>mxyzptlk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach! Wild!”
-Bernadette Dohrn

&quot;?I have decided there must be a slightly dark side to my idea of entertainment because I like to poke a stick at them every once in awhile and watch them squeal like the pigs they are.&quot;
-Boxlock

File under Boxlock/WEBlog/Dossier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach! Wild!”<br />
-Bernadette Dohrn</p>
<p>&#8220;?I have decided there must be a slightly dark side to my idea of entertainment because I like to poke a stick at them every once in awhile and watch them squeal like the pigs they are.&#8221;<br />
-Boxlock</p>
<p>File under Boxlock/WEBlog/Dossier</p>
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		<title>By: Boxlock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445368</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chas posts:
&quot;IF you cant PROVE your LIES…. Then Get the hell off of MY BACK…. Go after the RACISTS on your side of this stupid argument…. Take apart those who HATE a man because of the color of his skin….
Yea, that means ALL of you ANTI OBAMA people…. ALL of you A$$holes who rant on about “the One” or Hank and his “mulatto messiah” (how RACIST can you be, Hank???) And you claim to have such great FAITH!! &quot;

Spoken like a true &#039;man of the cloth&#039;, ha.
Like I said, a &#039;fake preacher&#039;!!!
And one that can&#039;t control his temper or his tongue.
I think it interesting that Chas (the fake preacher) chooses to ignore GOD&#039;s nature as GOD has revealed Himself to us, and instead defines God according to what pleases man and makes him to be, Chas says, &quot;whatever you conceive god to be!!&quot;.
Very revealing!
And Chas just because some can clearly see Obama for what he is...or more accurately isn&#039;t, that does not make them racist.  Voting for him because he is black sure does though, what don&#039;t you address that next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chas posts:<br />
&#8220;IF you cant PROVE your LIES…. Then Get the hell off of MY BACK…. Go after the RACISTS on your side of this stupid argument…. Take apart those who HATE a man because of the color of his skin….<br />
Yea, that means ALL of you ANTI OBAMA people…. ALL of you A$$holes who rant on about “the One” or Hank and his “mulatto messiah” (how RACIST can you be, Hank???) And you claim to have such great FAITH!! &#8221;</p>
<p>Spoken like a true &#8216;man of the cloth&#8217;, ha.<br />
Like I said, a &#8216;fake preacher&#8217;!!!<br />
And one that can&#8217;t control his temper or his tongue.<br />
I think it interesting that Chas (the fake preacher) chooses to ignore GOD&#8217;s nature as GOD has revealed Himself to us, and instead defines God according to what pleases man and makes him to be, Chas says, &#8220;whatever you conceive god to be!!&#8221;.<br />
Very revealing!<br />
And Chas just because some can clearly see Obama for what he is&#8230;or more accurately isn&#8217;t, that does not make them racist.  Voting for him because he is black sure does though, what don&#8217;t you address that next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445301</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  agree  Phantom...   Nite!!</description>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445300</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to sleep, for me.</description>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445299</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Right appeal to racial superiority, to nationalism, to moral superiority, put me in mind more of Nazism than communism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Right appeal to racial superiority, to nationalism, to moral superiority, put me in mind more of Nazism than communism.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445298</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet,  thats  the  plan  the  RIGHT  WING  is  objecting  to!!   It&#039;s  their  own  plan!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet,  thats  the  plan  the  RIGHT  WING  is  objecting  to!!   It&#8217;s  their  own  plan!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445297</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THATS  ABOUT  RIGHT,  PHANTOM....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THATS  ABOUT  RIGHT,  PHANTOM&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445296</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The  daily  rant  and  howl,  &quot;Chas the fake preacher&quot;  is  getting  OLD!!!   

IF  you   CONS  think you  can  prove  what you  say,   then   GO  FOR IT!!   

IF  you  cant  PROVE  your  LIES....   Then  Get  the hell off of  MY  BACK....   Go  after  the  RACISTS  on your  side of  this   stupid  argument....    Take  apart  those  who  HATE  a  man  because of  the  color  of  his  skin....  

Yea,   that  means  ALL of  you  ANTI  OBAMA  people....   ALL of you  A$$holes  who  rant on  about  &quot;the One&quot;   or   Hank  and his  &quot;mulatto  messiah&quot;  (how  RACIST  can you  be, Hank???)  And  you  claim  to have  such  great  FAITH!!  

I  think your  daily  rants  against  a  true  American,  god-fearing  man;   a  FAMILY  man;   a  man  who  cares  about  people....   A  Black  man,  running  for  President of  the  greatest  country on  Earth....   

Your  RANTINGS  against  this  man,  with  all of your  BLATANT  LIES,  and  HORSE  S*IT...  This is  despicable....   and  you  claim  to be  AMERICANS???   

Hey,   promote  your  candidate....   stay  with  the  issues....   THATS  politics....  

This  CRAP  you  people  spew out  like  foul  vomit  DAILY...   This  is  embarassing  for  the  City....  for  the  Paper...   and  for  the  entire  NATION!!   

Like  McCain  told  one of  his  &quot;followers&quot;   Barack  Obama  is  a  good  citizen...   McCain  and  Obama  disagree on the  direction  they  want  to  take  the  Nation....   

But  apparently,  McCain  is not  going to  stand  for  this  BS  you  Reich  Wingers  Spew  out  DAILY!!   I  only  wish   McCain  would  go  on  ALL the  talk  radio shows,  and tell  those  bozos  the  same  thing  he  told  those  people  in Wisconsin  the other  day!!

GOOD  NIGHT,  AMERICA!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  daily  rant  and  howl,  &#8220;Chas the fake preacher&#8221;  is  getting  OLD!!!   </p>
<p>IF  you   CONS  think you  can  prove  what you  say,   then   GO  FOR IT!!   </p>
<p>IF  you  cant  PROVE  your  LIES&#8230;.   Then  Get  the hell off of  MY  BACK&#8230;.   Go  after  the  RACISTS  on your  side of  this   stupid  argument&#8230;.    Take  apart  those  who  HATE  a  man  because of  the  color  of  his  skin&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Yea,   that  means  ALL of  you  ANTI  OBAMA  people&#8230;.   ALL of you  A$$holes  who  rant on  about  &#8220;the One&#8221;   or   Hank  and his  &#8220;mulatto  messiah&#8221;  (how  RACIST  can you  be, Hank???)  And  you  claim  to have  such  great  FAITH!!  </p>
<p>I  think your  daily  rants  against  a  true  American,  god-fearing  man;   a  FAMILY  man;   a  man  who  cares  about  people&#8230;.   A  Black  man,  running  for  President of  the  greatest  country on  Earth&#8230;.   </p>
<p>Your  RANTINGS  against  this  man,  with  all of your  BLATANT  LIES,  and  HORSE  S*IT&#8230;  This is  despicable&#8230;.   and  you  claim  to be  AMERICANS???   </p>
<p>Hey,   promote  your  candidate&#8230;.   stay  with  the  issues&#8230;.   THATS  politics&#8230;.  </p>
<p>This  CRAP  you  people  spew out  like  foul  vomit  DAILY&#8230;   This  is  embarassing  for  the  City&#8230;.  for  the  Paper&#8230;   and  for  the  entire  NATION!!   </p>
<p>Like  McCain  told  one of  his  &#8220;followers&#8221;   Barack  Obama  is  a  good  citizen&#8230;   McCain  and  Obama  disagree on the  direction  they  want  to  take  the  Nation&#8230;.   </p>
<p>But  apparently,  McCain  is not  going to  stand  for  this  BS  you  Reich  Wingers  Spew  out  DAILY!!   I  only  wish   McCain  would  go  on  ALL the  talk  radio shows,  and tell  those  bozos  the  same  thing  he  told  those  people  in Wisconsin  the other  day!!</p>
<p>GOOD  NIGHT,  AMERICA!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445295</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I was reading the bush plan in your post, Chas.</description>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445292</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The organizer dedicated to changing the life of a particular community must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act… - Alinksky

In the beginning the organizer’s first job is to create the issues or problems - Alinsky&quot;

DAMN!!!   Those  are  the  very  tactics  that  the  SMEAR  OBAMA  people  are using...   Gee,  according  to  the  Reich Wing,  that  would  make  the  SMEAR  people  commies!!   

Ya  just  cant  make  this  stuff up!!!  ROFLMAO!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The organizer dedicated to changing the life of a particular community must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act… &#8211; Alinksky</p>
<p>In the beginning the organizer’s first job is to create the issues or problems &#8211; Alinsky&#8221;</p>
<p>DAMN!!!   Those  are  the  very  tactics  that  the  SMEAR  OBAMA  people  are using&#8230;   Gee,  according  to  the  Reich Wing,  that  would  make  the  SMEAR  people  commies!!   </p>
<p>Ya  just  cant  make  this  stuff up!!!  ROFLMAO!!</p>
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		<title>By: Agnatha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445290</link>
		<dc:creator>Agnatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right wing meltdowns. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEyrk5ZsQw

This is like Pat Buchanan&#039;s raw meat speech at the 1992 Republican Convention all over again. It wasn&#039;t Buchanan or what he said, it was that he was cheered so enthusiastically for saying nasty things. Here, the candidate is being booed by his own supporters when he chastises them for saying nasty things (the sort of things that his VP candidate has arguably been encouraging). 

It truly astonishes me that there are some who think that there are comparable lunatic fringes between the left and the right. There are lunatic fringes on both ends, and also several points in between (bacause the spectrum is not just a line), but the idea that there is anything comparable in numbers of virulant, &quot;I hate the other side&quot; between the American right and any other political end of the spectrum truly is fooling themselves. 

As for the ACORN! ACORN! bullsh*t coming from the righties here...reality check.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/01/AR2006110103202.html

www.commoncause.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&amp;b=194883&amp;ct=6080603

www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/09/03/voting

This is real voter fraud, and it is much better substantiated than the allegations against ACORN that it is engaged in &lt;b&gt;widespread&lt;/b&gt; voter fraud. The reality is, likely Democratic voters are being targeted for intimidation and challenges, and that is illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right wing meltdowns. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEyrk5ZsQw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEyrk5ZsQw</a></p>
<p>This is like Pat Buchanan&#8217;s raw meat speech at the 1992 Republican Convention all over again. It wasn&#8217;t Buchanan or what he said, it was that he was cheered so enthusiastically for saying nasty things. Here, the candidate is being booed by his own supporters when he chastises them for saying nasty things (the sort of things that his VP candidate has arguably been encouraging). </p>
<p>It truly astonishes me that there are some who think that there are comparable lunatic fringes between the left and the right. There are lunatic fringes on both ends, and also several points in between (bacause the spectrum is not just a line), but the idea that there is anything comparable in numbers of virulant, &#8220;I hate the other side&#8221; between the American right and any other political end of the spectrum truly is fooling themselves. </p>
<p>As for the ACORN! ACORN! bullsh*t coming from the righties here&#8230;reality check.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/01/AR2006110103202.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/01/AR2006110103202.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.commoncause.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&amp;b=194883&amp;ct=6080603" rel="nofollow">http://www.commoncause.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&amp;b=194883&amp;ct=6080603</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/09/03/voting" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/09/03/voting</a></p>
<p>This is real voter fraud, and it is much better substantiated than the allegations against ACORN that it is engaged in <b>widespread</b> voter fraud. The reality is, likely Democratic voters are being targeted for intimidation and challenges, and that is illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnatha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445289</link>
		<dc:creator>Agnatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All the voter fraud…all ACORN…all Democrats.
Response from Dims on blog: Dims deny.&quot;

Bullsh*t (in the Harry Frankfurt sense). There is quite a lot of evidence of conservative republicans trying to prevent registered voters and eligible voters from making it to the polls, and which has been linked to in these discussions. That is also voter fraud. 

&quot;Senate letter signed by 20 Republicans warning of the problems inherent with Freddie and Fannie and the very noticeable absence of a single Democrat.
Response from Dims on blog: Dims deny.&quot;

Bullsh*t again. Creditors, including but by no means limited to the Macs, pursued marginal mortgages, and it was a primarily Republican sponsored initiative that resulted in a bill that protected lenders from the consequences of their actions to the expense of borrowers (e.g., the bankruptcy bill supported and voted for by Republicians and, it should be said, some Democrats, including Biden-the credit crunch goes far beyond mortgages). Reality check, there was plenty of blame to go around. Also by the way, the Macs often inherited the bad loans from other lenders. That&#039;s why they got such a large share of the loans. That does testify to real flaws in the Macs, but point of reality, many of the bad mortgages did not originate with the Macs, and they were already bad loans before the Macs purchased them. 

&quot;Freddie and Fannie top executives on Obama advisory list.
Response from Dims on blog: Dims deny&quot;

And on McCain&#039;s advisory list as well. 

&quot;The only other response from the Dims is name calling and spitting along with ad hominem arguments.&quot;

The irony of &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt; accusing anyone of resorting to ad hominem arguments actually goes beyond irony. You are clearly the sort who booed McCain when he belatedly tried to civilize his rallies. Do you really think you are doing &quot;your side&quot; any good at all? Your posts, including this one, are generally nothing but ad hominem, and certainly devoid of actual argument. &quot;Dims&quot; is a clear ad hominem. 
 
&quot;Does everyone detect a trend here, a severe flaw in character.&quot;

Uh huh. 

&quot;That’s not a question, it’s obvious.
Typical lying Dims, esp. Chas the fake preacher.&quot;

Yep, those who have nothing but ad hominems clearly have a severe flaw in their character. 

Ooooops. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All the voter fraud…all ACORN…all Democrats.<br />
Response from Dims on blog: Dims deny.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bullsh*t (in the Harry Frankfurt sense). There is quite a lot of evidence of conservative republicans trying to prevent registered voters and eligible voters from making it to the polls, and which has been linked to in these discussions. That is also voter fraud. </p>
<p>&#8220;Senate letter signed by 20 Republicans warning of the problems inherent with Freddie and Fannie and the very noticeable absence of a single Democrat.<br />
Response from Dims on blog: Dims deny.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bullsh*t again. Creditors, including but by no means limited to the Macs, pursued marginal mortgages, and it was a primarily Republican sponsored initiative that resulted in a bill that protected lenders from the consequences of their actions to the expense of borrowers (e.g., the bankruptcy bill supported and voted for by Republicians and, it should be said, some Democrats, including Biden-the credit crunch goes far beyond mortgages). Reality check, there was plenty of blame to go around. Also by the way, the Macs often inherited the bad loans from other lenders. That&#8217;s why they got such a large share of the loans. That does testify to real flaws in the Macs, but point of reality, many of the bad mortgages did not originate with the Macs, and they were already bad loans before the Macs purchased them. </p>
<p>&#8220;Freddie and Fannie top executives on Obama advisory list.<br />
Response from Dims on blog: Dims deny&#8221;</p>
<p>And on McCain&#8217;s advisory list as well. </p>
<p>&#8220;The only other response from the Dims is name calling and spitting along with ad hominem arguments.&#8221;</p>
<p>The irony of <b>you</b> accusing anyone of resorting to ad hominem arguments actually goes beyond irony. You are clearly the sort who booed McCain when he belatedly tried to civilize his rallies. Do you really think you are doing &#8220;your side&#8221; any good at all? Your posts, including this one, are generally nothing but ad hominem, and certainly devoid of actual argument. &#8220;Dims&#8221; is a clear ad hominem. </p>
<p>&#8220;Does everyone detect a trend here, a severe flaw in character.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh huh. </p>
<p>&#8220;That’s not a question, it’s obvious.<br />
Typical lying Dims, esp. Chas the fake preacher.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, those who have nothing but ad hominems clearly have a severe flaw in their character. </p>
<p>Ooooops. </p>
<p>Thanks for providing the entertaining meltdown. Again.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445288</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good night;  good luck;  god  bless   ----
whatever you  conceive god to be!!

blessings  ALL!!

so mote it  be!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good night;  good luck;  god  bless   &#8212;-<br />
whatever you  conceive god to be!!</p>
<p>blessings  ALL!!</p>
<p>so mote it  be!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1011/#comment-445283</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How the  market works  --  England  --  From 2007

http://brasschecktv.com/page/187.html</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 04:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gov. Palin to Divest from Her Mutual Fund over Sudan InvestmentsEmail &#124;  Digg &#124;  Del.icio.us
You may recall that in the Vice-Presidential debate, Governor Palin came down hard against the Government of Sudan and even recommended a no-fly-zone over Darfur. Since then, the intrepid ABC news investigative team discovered that &quot;Palin owns up to $15,000 in Legg Mason International Equities, which the McCain-Palin campaign specified is the Legg Mason International Equity Fund. That Fund owns shares in two companies the Genocide Intervention Network labels &#039;highest offenders&#039; because, in that organization&#039;s judgment, they empower the government of Sudan at the expense of the country&#039;s marginalized populations.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gov. Palin to Divest from Her Mutual Fund over Sudan InvestmentsEmail |  Digg |  Del.icio.us<br />
You may recall that in the Vice-Presidential debate, Governor Palin came down hard against the Government of Sudan and even recommended a no-fly-zone over Darfur. Since then, the intrepid ABC news investigative team discovered that &#8220;Palin owns up to $15,000 in Legg Mason International Equities, which the McCain-Palin campaign specified is the Legg Mason International Equity Fund. That Fund owns shares in two companies the Genocide Intervention Network labels &#8216;highest offenders&#8217; because, in that organization&#8217;s judgment, they empower the government of Sudan at the expense of the country&#8217;s marginalized populations.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats approve of terrorist activities.

Sarah Palin helped finance genocide in  Darfur by Regular&#039;s twisted logic.</description>
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<p>Sarah Palin helped finance genocide in  Darfur by Regular&#8217;s twisted logic.</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>g&#039;night all ... later ...</description>
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		<title>By: JMWalker</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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Freebird1971
Posted October 11, 2008 at 10:47 pm &#124; Permalink

Regular
Posted October 11, 2008 at 8:18 pm &#124; Permalink

Bill Ayers, who terrorized families with children and caused one family to send their children to school for over 18 months via police car.

Democrats approve of terrorist activities
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Please tell me you are not serious
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Freebird, the problem is, he is serious. And he has the gall to call Obama a radical.</description>
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Freebird1971<br />
Posted October 11, 2008 at 10:47 pm | Permalink</p>
<p>Regular<br />
Posted October 11, 2008 at 8:18 pm | Permalink</p>
<p>Bill Ayers, who terrorized families with children and caused one family to send their children to school for over 18 months via police car.</p>
<p>Democrats approve of terrorist activities<br />
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Please tell me you are not serious<br />
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Freebird, the problem is, he is serious. And he has the gall to call Obama a radical.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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Regular
Posted October 11, 2008 at 10:26 pm &#124; Permalink

As previously written, you are totally incapable of writing a reasoned response.
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So because the Alinsky’s son says the democrat national convention had elements of communism in it makes it so? Sounds just like the republican national convention as well. Put them side by side, and there is very little difference between the two. “Key words and phrases”, the rallying selection of music, and, to the republican national conventions discredit, showing 9/11 for the sole purpose of inciting the conventioneers. Communism who?

My response to Alinsky’s son&#039;s rant. What other explanation do you need? Maybe Tara can jump in from the big island and draw you a picture.</description>
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Regular<br />
Posted October 11, 2008 at 10:26 pm | Permalink</p>
<p>As previously written, you are totally incapable of writing a reasoned response.<br />
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So because the Alinsky’s son says the democrat national convention had elements of communism in it makes it so? Sounds just like the republican national convention as well. Put them side by side, and there is very little difference between the two. “Key words and phrases”, the rallying selection of music, and, to the republican national conventions discredit, showing 9/11 for the sole purpose of inciting the conventioneers. Communism who?</p>
<p>My response to Alinsky’s son&#8217;s rant. What other explanation do you need? Maybe Tara can jump in from the big island and draw you a picture.</p>
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