Open thread 10/09

389 Comments

  1. JMWalker
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:11 am | Permalink

    ‘Mornin!

  2. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI

    Just listen to it. But it is Naomi Wolf and that makes closed minded idjits shut the door.

    Save America or our kid’s will hate us. Savvy?

  3. outlander
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    “In 1987, on the eve of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s third victory, the head of her Conservative Party told a visiting columnist: “Someday, Labour will win an election. Our job is to hold on until they are sane.” Republicans, winners of seven of the last 10 presidential elections, had better hope they have held on long enough”. – georgewill@washpost.com

    ————

    I was a big fan of the “Iron Lady”. And no, I’m afraid that Republicans have not held on long enough.

  4. samkan
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:04 am | Permalink

    This is scary! Either party having total control of Congress AND the Presidency is frightening. Hopefully, if it happens, they won’t abuse their power! Yeah.. right!

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/08/senate.election/index.html

  5. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    Are global wars without end sane?

    Both Dems and Republicans have given us that.

    Someone a while back stated, “it must be nice to be an Independent, free from sin”.

    Damned right it’s nice, but unfortunately, I still have to live with the disastrous policies of both “major” party’s.

  6. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    Listen and watch that video I posted upthread. A COUP took place on October 1st. A COMBAT battallion is now deployed in America!!!!

    Do you know what martial law is?

    We’re in trouble and it’s going to take EVERYONE to get us out of it.

  7. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:13 am | Permalink

    “outlander” moans –

    “… Republicans have not held on long enough.”

    But, in the meantime, they’ve embraced insanity as policy.

    It’s the “land of the blind the one-eyed man is king” effect. The CONs have been blind to anything beyond the “invisible hand of the marketplace” and the inherent corruption that evolves from unfettered greed.

    We’ve become a nation of REAL welfare queens only the Cadillac is a limo and the “queens” are corporate CEOs.

    Shrub called “the Haves and the Have-Mores…my base.”

  8. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    The morning comics –

    http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/10/7/224817/788/115#c115

  9. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    HOW THE DEMOCRATS STOLE THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION:

    Voter-registration can’t be totally fraud-free, group says

    Voter-registration group cites lack of resources
    Wednesday, October 08, 2008 Joe GuillenPlain Dealer Reporter

    A national voter-registration group admitted to Cuyahoga County election officials Tuesday that it cannot eliminate fraud from its operation.

    The group blamed inefficiency and lack of resources (notice whine for public money?) for problems such as being unable to spot duplicate voter-registration cards or cards that may have been filled out by workers to make quotas.

    The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, has turned in at least 65,000 cards to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections in the last year. The board has investigated potentially fraudulent cards since August.

    The group has faced similar inquiries in other large Ohio counties. And Nevada state authorities recently raided ACORN’s Las Vegas headquarters searching for evidence of fraud, according to the Associated Press.

    Local representatives of the organization told Cuyahoga board members that they don’t have the resources to identify fraudulent cards turned in by paid canvassers who are told to register low- and moderate-income voters.

    Cuyahoga election workers flagged about 50 names on suspicious cards. The cards were to register the same names, raising the possibility that canvassers shared information when trying to make quotas.

    “This is not something you can catch with your internal controls, apparently,” said board member Sandy McNair at the meeting.

    “Not perfectly, no,” replied Mari Engelhardt, ACORN political director for Ohio.

    Once stacks of registration cards are returned to ACORN offices, workers verify information by calling the phone number provided on the card, the board was told. If information is missing or ACORN identifies a suspicious card, it is given to the Board of Elections with a notice that it could be problematic.

    ACORN workers who double-check cards can’t be expected to remember names and addresses previously verified, said Teresa James, an attorney for Project Vote representing ACORN.

    Engelhardt said supervisors sometimes fail to prevent different canvassers from attempting to register the same person.

    “We do not have the resources to know if a particular card is fictitious,” James said.

    Voter-registration organizations cannot, by law, withhold registration cards from election boards. The groups are obligated to report potential errors, a spokesman for Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner told The Plain Dealer.

    Kris Harsh, ACORN’s head Cleveland organizer, blamed the elections board for not scrutinizing ACORN’s suspicious cards. He said the group can’t be expected to catch everything.

    “None of us have ever achieved perfection,” Harsh said.

    The elections board will continue its inquiry Monday, when it expects testimony from three people it will subpoena after a review of the ACORN investigation. The names appeared on multiple registration cards submitted by ACORN and other organizations.

    http://www.cleveland.com/plaindealer/stories/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/122345478771640.xml&coll=2&thispage=2

    (if they cannot eliminate FRAUD, maybe they should be legally banned from registering voters.)

    ACORN=OBAMA OBAMA=ACORN ACORN=OBAMA OBAMA=ACORN

  10. Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:31 am | Permalink

    I’m not one much for local politics.

    What’s the point living as I do in the land of morons?

    But, since I know she is about, I DID want to opine that I find Brenda Landwehr a self aggrandizing, sanctimonious cow. And I have a better word that I did not use out of respect for more respectable women.

  11. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/08/chicago.evictions/index.html

    THAT is what real America does (or doesn’t in this case).

  12. dionysus
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    American Way if this is such a problem why are we not seeing anything on the national news about it?

    A few ineligible votes in the millions of voters isn’t such a big deal, is it. I mean, every vote counts,but really, how many elections are decided by one vote anyway.

  13. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    “A few ineligible votes in the millions of voters isn’t such a big deal”

    Not a big deal?

    You are correct. If the United States wants the same voting reputation as other countries in the world and history: Nazi Germany, Russia, China, the Banana Republics, Cuba, Mexico you are absolutely correct.

    The brown shirts of President Obama’s ACORN will enforce the election. Not monitor, not help register – but force the results.

    In effect, no vote counts.

  14. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    The United States of ACORN

    And this is NOT in the news media because they have already decided America needs the ONE.

  15. annie_moose
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    http://www.alternet.org/democracy/100214/gop_issues_absurd_attack_on_voter_registration_group/

    The Republican Party is increasingly attacking voter registration groups that are perceived by the GOP as enfranchising likely Democratic voters, calling one of those groups “a quasi-criminal” organization because two voter registration applications in a rural Florida county were discovered to be problematic.

    The two questionable voter registration applications found in Seminole County, Florida, were submitted by ACORN, or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, which has registered more than 1.15 million voters in two dozens states in 2008. ACORN is the nation’s largest non-profit voter registration organization.

    In a Wednesday conference call, Republican National Committee chief counsel Sean Cairncross called ACORN a “quasi-criminal” organization that was trying to create chaos with voting. He said it was “disturbing” that the group has links to the Obama campaign, saying the Democratic nominee worked with ACORN more than a decade ago.

    The RNC teleconference came two days after the McCain-Palin 2008 campaign held a similar press conference call with former Sen. John Danforth (R-MO) and former Sen. Warren Rudman (R-NH) that discussed “issues of voter fraud, state specific voter fraud accusations, and the McCain-Palin 2008 Honest and Open Election Committee.”

    “The big picture is this is a Republican and McCain strategy to go after voter groups,” said Brian Kettenring, head organizer of Florida ACORN, who said he has spent the past several days dealing with members of the media who are reacting to the GOP charges. He noted that the Seminole County Supervisor of Elections, Mike Ertel, has said that only two voter applications out of thousands submitted in 2008 are questionable and that the county’s process to review these forms is working.

  16. Boxlock
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    Missouri officials suspect fake voter registration

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. – Officials in Missouri, a hard-fought jewel in the presidential race, are sifting through possibly hundreds of questionable or duplicate voter-registration forms submitted by an advocacy group that has been accused of election fraud in other states.
    …co-director of the election board in Jackson County, where Kansas City is, said the fraudulent registration forms came from the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN.
    “I don’t even know the entire scope of it because registrations are coming in so heavy,” Davis said. “We have identified about 100 duplicates, and probably 280 addresses that don’t exist, people who have driver’s license numbers that won’t verify or Social Security numbers that won’t verify. Some have no address at all.”

    ACORN….is Barack Hussein Obama, and Barack Hussein Obama is ACORN.
    How did this liar and fraud ever get this close to the Presidency and potentially destroying what this country is and what it stands for.
    VERY SAD. This country must contain a lot more stupid, foolish people than I ever imagined.

  17. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    ACORN is clearly an evil organization since their goal is voter registration. I agree with the Republicans, voting is anti-American and we should have a dictatorship where geniuses like Bush and Cheney make all of our decisions. That way there won’t be any problems in America.

    Seriously, you guys have to attack an organization that registers voters. That’s all you have? Pathetic as usual, especially when you realize, that ACORN works with the government to target fraudulent voter applications.

    Meanwhile the Republican party is taking away the right to vote of people who lost their homes due to the mortgage crisis. Taking away people’s civil liberties, that’s the real crime, but it’s no surprise the Republicans are displaying the faux outrage. Typically pathetic.

  18. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    States’ Actions to Block Voters Appear Illegal

    Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

  19. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Heheh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    “But, since I know she is about, I DID want to opine that I find Brenda Landwehr a self aggrandizing, sanctimonious cow.”

    hee hee hee heeeeeee….

    JR, while that is unquestionably true, I have to ask. How do you REALLY feel about brenda?

    heheheheheh.

    And as a farmer, and a lover of cattle, I think you should apologize to all cows for the insulting comparison!

  20. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    Judge blasts GOP voter registration challenges

    HELENA – U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy issued a scathing order Wednesday lambasting the Montana Republican Party for challenging the registrations of thousands of Montana voters, but stopped short of an actual ruling in the case.

    In his 19-page order, Molloy denied a temporary restraining order to the Montana Democratic Party, which sought to stop thousands of GOP-led voter challenges from moving forward. Molloy wrote that Secretary of State Brad Johnson “astutely” asked counties not to process the Republicans’ voter challenges, which effectively alleviated a crisis that would have required a restraining order.

    Johnson is a Republican.

    http://missoulian.com/articles/2008/10/09/news/local/news03.txt

  21. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    1000 to 1 phone calls to Congress NOT in favor of a “bail out”. They passed it anyway.

    Your vote does not count under this government. Deal with it.

  22. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    Heh Doug. Funny, that while the acornaphobic have fits about folks trying to register other folks to vote, so that we have, ya know, participation in a participative election…

    They dont say a mumblin’ word (thanks Hoyt Axton) about voter roll PURGES that are ILLEGAL.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_el_ge/voter_purges

    And note, in the article, the six states identified as having illegal purges are ALL swing states.

    And the con outrage at people illegally stripped of their voting rights? Glaringly absent.

    They only get happy about people being REMOVED from voter rolls. Not added to the rolls. They LIKE having less than half the country (clearly the DUMB half) voting.

    It helps their lame candidates when only the ignorant, er “low information voters” vote.

  23. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    AmWay opines:

    “You are correct. If the United States wants the same voting reputation as other countries in the world and history: Nazi Germany, Russia, China, the Banana Republics, Cuba, Mexico you are absolutely correct.”

    Too late. We got that reputation in 2000 when the Supreme Court and not the people crowned King George.

  24. annie_moose
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    http://www.velvetrevolution.us/

    Velvet Revolution Calls On John McCain To Fire Michael Connell For Covering Up For Karl Rove In Federal Election Manipulation Lawsuit

    Velvet Revolution today issued a press release calling for Republican candidate John McCain to fire computer expert Michael Connell from his campaign for covering up alleged election manipulations of Karl Rove and others. Mr. Connell, the GOP’s top computer expert, was subpoenaed based on a September 19th court order to testify under oath in an Ohio federal lawsuit looking into serious allegations that Mr. Rove has directed a strategy to illegally manipulate elections through the use of computer technology. Rather than cooperate in the investigation, Mr. Connell hired attorneys close to the Bush/Cheney Administration and refused to appear for the deposition arguing client (GOP) confidentiality. Those attorneys have said that they will do everything possible to keep Mr. Connell from testifying before the November general election.

    Mr. Connell’s refusal to comply with a federal subpoena looking into credible evidence that the upcoming presidential election will be manipulated is at odds with John McCain’s promise to run a clean campaign. Another GOP cyber security expert, Stephen Spoonamore, has stated that Mr. Connell has vast experience and knowledge of the GOP computer networks at issue in the federal lawsuit.Mr. Connell has admitted to Mr. Spoonamore that in his zeal to ’save the unborn’ he may have helped others who have compromised elections.”

    Cliff Arnebeck, the Ohio election attorney who issued the subpoena, said Friday that he is aggressively moving to enforce the subpoena. “Mr. Connell has information about how the votes are tabulated in key states in the upcoming election. In order to ensure that the election is fair and accurate, Mr. Connell needs to testify under oath and pursuant to a lawful subpoena about how these votes are tabulated, whether the tabulation will be compromised and whether anyone has directed him to compromise those tabulations.”

    According to federal filings, Mr. Connell is working for John McCain to help him win the election. VR believes that until Mr. Connell testifies under oath about his apparent knowledge of election manipulations, he should not be working for Mr. McCain. If he does, the McCain campaign will appear to be in league with Mr. Connell to cover up criminal conduct and engaging in election tampering. This will call into question the results of the November election and again cast a shadow over our election process.

  25. Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    You’ve got me farmgrrl.

    Cows are some of the most inoffensive of creatures.

    I am duly chastised.

    Brenda Landwehr is more like a hyena.

  26. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:42 am | Permalink
    The United States of ACORN

    And this is NOT in the news media because they have already decided America needs the ONE.

  27. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    Republicans attacked ACORN in 2004, so it’s no surprise they are doing it again. They’ll do it again in 2012. Republicans know that when the number of voters increase the number of Republicans in office decreases.

    http://www.alternet.org/election08/102055/

  28. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    Am Way must have slept with his tinfoil hat on all night long.

  29. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    I guess the good news is that wingnuts like sunflower, and outie and american and grmie are the “base” for the repukes.

    And palin’s pandering and mcsame’s dementia and their surrogates are ONLY solidifying the people that were gonna blindly vote a straight R ticket anyway.

    As far as converting anyone or bringing new voters to the rail for their party… not so much.

    And yeah, they are getting more desperate and adding to the “nut” portion of wingnuttia.

    Rave on repukes. Hell aint half full yet…

  30. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    “Brenda Landwehr is more like a hyena.”

    Uh oh. Now the hyena lobby is calling. Even hyenas have their standards.

    But the cows do thank you for clearing that up!

    Moooooooooooooooo

  31. Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    “Now the hyena lobby is calling”

    It’s a time of revolution dammit. I’m gonna have to offend somebody. I’m sorry for putting it on otherwise innocent members of the animal kingdom.

  32. outlander
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Chuckle… Dems defending ACORN. “ACORN may be conducting systematic voter fraud, but that’s OK because; (1) they do register some legit voters, and (2)they will vote Democrat.

    To liberal Democrats, especially the nuts on this board, the ends justify the means.

  33. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    Outlander, ACORN registers Republicans too. Did you have a point?

  34. Boxlock
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    If the integrity and honesty of our voting system is not maintained we will descend into anarchy like many other ‘3rd world’ countries have in the past.
    That is what ACORN is attempting to do…. what with them registering dead people, double registering people in different districts to more than once, registering nursing home residents unable to responsibly vote.
    It is blatant voter fraud.

  35. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — In the face of an economy in crisis and a deeply unpopular president, some analysts believe the situation is ripe to give Democrats a shot at a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority in the Senate in November.

    Analysts say the November election could give Democrats a filibuster-proof majority.

    It’s “the perfect storm,” said Stuart Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report. “You’ve got Republican voters angry at Republicans, many Americans just petrified about the future…wanting change. And right now change appears to be coming in the form of Democrats.”

    Both parties are feeling charged from the highly contested race for the White House between Sen. Barack Obama and McCain. But Democrats and Republicans agree the outcome of the Senate elections could come down to how many people come out to vote.

  36. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    A post that describes the radical left on this blog to perfection

    So does every enemy of the United States – including the liberals voting Democrat in this country.

    If you are:

    a person that hates the United States,
    a traitor,
    a communist,
    a socialist,
    a criminal,
    a terrorist,
    an illegal alien,
    lazy,
    envious,
    ignorant,
    stupid,
    mad that others are better than you,
    someone who like to kill unborn children,
    someone who needs a parent their entire life,
    someone who likes to run other people’s lives,
    someone who will surrender to any threat,

    then the Democrat Party is where you cast your vote. Pure and simple. – Hank Dagny

    http://www.liberalquicksand.com/

  37. Boxlock
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    “To liberal Democrats, especially the nuts on this board, the ends justify the means.”

    outlander, that is the way it is dishonest lying anarchists.

  38. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Registering people to vote creates a third world anarchy? Our nation has been registering people to vote for decades. The Republicans register people to vote, are you saying they contribute to this “third world anarchy” as you claim?

  39. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    Obama is leading with 349 electoral votes to McCain’s 174. No wonder the Repukes on this board are sounding so desperate.

  40. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Ya think?

  41. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    Look at all the blue.

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/

    Americans are just fed up with Republicans constant record of failure.

  42. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    One electoral board I saw yesterday shows TEXAS as undecided now!

  43. annie_moose
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    what with them registering dead people,

    Dead people are definitely a threat

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoXgRtDysLY

  44. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    Obama, the Great Deceiver

    How Barack Hussein Obama was trained in the methods of radical ways via Saul Alinksy, Bill Ayers, John L. McKnight and other radical philosophers and teachers.

    Guess who recommended obama to Harvard?

    “Obama approached Northwestern University professor John L. McKnight – a loyal student of Alinsky’s radical tactics – to pen the Harvard letter in the late 1980s. McKnight serves on the boards of radically anti-American groups in Chicago, including one accused of thuggery.”3

    The Chicago-based Gamaliel Foundation lists McKnight as a board director. From1985 to 1988, Obama worked for a subsidiary of Gamaliel, where he cut his teeth as a community organizer on Chicago’s South Side. McKnight and Gamaliel, which was founded on Alinsky’s principles, provided training for the budding radical.3

    Before leaving for Harvard, Obama wrote an article published in a journal titled,”After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois,” in which he praised McKnight and his organizing strategies.3

    Obama is a dangerous, far left radical. Barack Obama is trained in the fine art of deception and has learned that lying is not a bad thing, but a necessary pathway to achieve goals.

    Alinsky dedicated the first edition of his book, “Rules for Radicals,” to Satan

    Folks, we do not want Obama in the White House. This will be the end of the American Society as we know it. Radicalism will become accepted and deception will be the rule of the day. What Obama’s agenda is, makes the Soviet Union style of propaganda look like child’s play.

    If you love America and what it stands for, you need to alert everyone you know about the far left radical Barack Hussein Obama. Obama is the great deceiver.

    1. http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-92191
    and other embedded links in the document(s)
    2 sodahead.com
    3. World Net Daily Posted Sept 24, 2008

  45. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Now Annie, if Rapture comes on Nov 4 those dead people will rise from the grave and vote for “the One”. No wonder the Republicans are worried. They know that God ISN’T on THEIR side.

  46. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    When Republicans whine about threats to American freedom they think of dangerous socialist concepts like Medicare. Reagan ranted against Medicare and Palin quoted Reagan in the VP debate.

    http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/10/palin_medicare_leads_to_totalitarianism.php

    Now Republicans here are saying voter registration is the greatest threat to freedom. Yeah, health care and democracy are the greatest threats we have to face. No wonder Republicans are losing in the polls.

  47. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Their really is quite a wind blowing thru the board this AM.

  48. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    Job Description for a Community Organizer
    by Saul Alinksy

    The job of the organizer is to maneuver and bait the establishment so that it will publicly attack him as a “dangerous enemy.” The word “enemy” is sufficient to put the organizer on the side of the people, to identify him with the Have-Nots, but it is not enough to endow him with the special qualities that induce fear and thus give him the means to establish his own power against the establishment. Here again we find that it is power and fear that are essential to the development of faith. This need is met by the establishment’s use of the brand “dangerous,” for in that one word the establishment reveals its fear of the organizer, its fear that he represents a threat to its omnipotence. Now the organizer has his “birth certificate” and can begin…

    Saul Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals”, pp 81-125

  49. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    OK everybody, grease up your mouse wheels: the clip n paste squad is up.

  50. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    Regular, it’s funny that you want to play the guilt by association game. McCain was on the board of a fascist organization that worked to overthrow democratically elected leaders and put death squads on the streets to slaughter civilians. McCain went to a convention where he buddied with people who praised Shelly Shannon’s assassination attempt against Dr. Tiller.

    Then there was Palin who met a witch hunter whose idea of hunting witches is stoning innocent women. She also attended church where a raving anti-Semite preached about how Jews deserve their persecution for not becoming Christian.

    On the other hand Obama was a member of the Weather Underground when he was 8. Yeah, that’s believable. Just let that desperation pour out.

  51. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    Hos 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk; the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.

  52. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    Oh yeah, Sarah associates with her husband, a guy who wants to break up the union. Todd Palin is a fan of Joe Vogler who said, “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.”

    So Sarah Palin must clearly hate America.

    Then there’s McCain who spent his B-day with known felon Raffaello Follieri.

    I could go on and on. However Bill Ayers was never convicted of a crime, but I understand the need of the Republicans to change the issue from the economy. McCain already admitted he doesn’t know anything about economic issues.

  53. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    McCain is endorsed by Leonore Annenberg, who is the President and Chairman of the Annenberg Foundation. Anneberg hired Bill Ayers to be on the Board of Directors. Therefore McCain is connected to Bill Ayers and, according to Republican reasoning, must be a member of the Weather Underground.

    Keep the desperation up Republicans, you are making everyone laugh.

  54. Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Heh

    We’re gonna see a LOT of King James and cut n paste the next few days.

    Until it sets in with the cons they’ve lost. THEN it WILL get interesting.

    And fun.

  55. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    Lets talk about McCain’s plan to tax employer provided health insurance. How would another $10,000 in taxed income affect YOUR paycheck?
    How about the employer having to pay an additional 7.5 % for SS? Now that’s a plan that will help small business. NOT!

  56. Heckler
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    ACORN has been caught dozens of times submitting hundreds and even thousands of fraudulent voter registrations at a time. And the Left tries to excuse it.

    Were it Republicans doing the same thing you Marxists would have blood shooting out your eyes and be burning buildings in protest.

  57. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    I wonder how business feels about his call to count employer provided health insurance as income. Businesses pay 7.5 % of our SS costs. That would be an additional cost they didn’t have before. Also, unemployment and workman’s comp would have to go up because of the added “income”.

    McCain’s plan is a Hooverlike disaster.

  58. ANTI
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    I see the Left is in their isolated ‘Petting Zoo World’ this fine morning….They are so self-involved and blind to the realities of the real world…Childish, really. Carry on fruits!

  59. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    Regular, it’s funny that you want to play the guilt by association game.
    ———————
    Hey cuz, shouldn’t you be scraping the carbon build up from the walls of Tiller’s incinerator this morning?

  60. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    I guess the Republicans don’t walk to talk about the economy or issues. Surprise!

  61. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    walk to talk? want to talk

  62. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    On a clear day you can see Russia from atop the Epic Center downtown Wichita.

  63. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    George Soros Helped Nazis During Holocause
    George Soros Interview On 60 Minutes

    When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros’ father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.

    (Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)

    KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros’ friends and neighbors.

    (Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)

    KROFT: (Voiceover) You’re a Hungarian Jew…

    Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

    KROFT: (Voiceover) …who escaped the Holocaust…

    (Vintage footage of women walking by train)

    Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

    (Vintage footage of people getting on train)

    KROFT: (Voiceover) …by–by posing as a Christian.

    Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.

    (Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)

    KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

    Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.

    KROFT: In what way?

    Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and–and anticipate events and when–when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a–a very personal experience of evil.

    KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

    Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

    KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

    Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

    KROFT: I mean, that’s–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

    Mr. SOROS: Not–not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t–you don’t see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.

    KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

    Mr. SOROS: No.

    KROFT: For example that, ‘I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.’ None of that?

    Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c–I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets–that if I weren’t there–of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would–would–would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the–whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the–I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

    Of course most of us here are already aware of Mr. Soros’ highly questionable actions during the Nazi occupation. (Though the public at large undoubtedly has a different perspective, if they know anything about his earlier days at all.)

    But the statements he made in this interview to my mind are quite chilling. He forgives himself everything. He says that if he hadn’t done it somebody else would have.

    All of which would seem to indicate that Mr. Soros has
    no conscience. A lack of conscience is said to be a common symptom of sociopaths.

    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/george-soros-on-helping-the-nazis-during-the-holocaust

  64. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    McCain/Palin no longer have campaign rallies, they have attack mobs. At a McCain rally Obama is called a terrorist, at a Palin rally someone shouted out that Obama should be killed. So it’s no problem Republicans will start to become honest like this guy:

    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Angry_voter_threatens_Registrar_says_he_1008.html

  65. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    holocause = Holocaust

  66. mom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Regular – it’s been reported that Bush’s grandfather also helped the Nazis – so what’s your point?

  67. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Obama, the Great Deceiver

    How Barack Hussein Obama was trained in the methods of radical ways by Saul Alinksy, Bill Ayers, John L. McKnight and other radical philosophers and teachers.

    1. Obama was a community organizer.
    2. Saul Alinsky was a community organizer.

    Obama is so well-trained in Alinsky tactics that he used to teach workshops on it.

    Saul Alinsky is one of Obama’s heroes. In 1971 he published a book, “Rules for Radicals. Saul Alinsky believes in the socialism, redistribution of wealth.
    Alinsky taught his proteges to “HIDE” their true goals by any means necessary. Lying was fine. The objective of Alinsky was to turn people against the white establishment.

    “Barack (Obama) stood up that day,” talking about a visit to Chicago neighborhoods, “and spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about “The world as it is” and “The world as it should be…”

    And, “All of us driven by a simple belief that the world as it is just won’t do – that we have an obligation to fight for the world as it should be.

    Here’s an excerpt from Chapter 2 of Saul Alinsky’s book, Rules for Radicals:

    “The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means… The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be.”

    Obama’s friend Bill Ayers:

    “Ayers in his famous 1970 statement, “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at.”

    Bill Ayers gave Barack Obama his job at the Woods foundation where he passed out huge amounts of money to organizations which in turn that would buy votes for his runs at various political offices. Organizations like ACORN.

    Saul Alinsky’s son has said, “Obama learned his lesson well” “…In Artful Dodger style, Barack Obama, plays down his mentorship with Communist author Saul Alinsky. But Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky, credits Obama for “learning his lesson well” from the Communist guru.”

    Saul Alinsky, who literally wrote the book on how to subvert democracies into Marxist dictatorships.2

    Barack Obama is a fervent supporter and prodigy student of Saul Alinsky.

    Guuiliani on Obama:
    (Interview with Andrea Mitchell)

    “Giuliani—”This guy, educated in the Saul Alinsky methods. A good friend of Ayers. Very close to [Jeremiah]Wright. This is the most left wing candidate of the Democratic Party. Its ideology. Its ideology, Andrea. It’s not guilt by association.”

    Psychopaths:

    True psychopaths like Obama are often charming, seductive, and treacherous. They make natural con artists. Obama and in general the far left convince others (their followers) that a “higher morality” allows them to act without conscience.

    Guess who recommended obama to Harvard?

    “Obama approached Northwestern University professor John L. McKnight – a loyal student of Alinsky’s radical tactics – to pen the Harvard letter in the late 1980s. McKnight serves on the boards of radically anti-American groups in Chicago, including one accused of thuggery.”3

    The Chicago-based Gamaliel Foundation lists McKnight as a board director. From1985 to 1988, Obama worked for a subsidiary of Gamaliel, where he cut his teeth as a community organizer on Chicago’s South Side. McKnight and Gamaliel, which was founded on Alinsky’s principles, provided training for the budding radical.3

    Before leaving for Harvard, Obama wrote an article published in a journal titled,”After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois,” in which he praised McKnight and his organizing strategies.3

    Obama is a dangerous, far left radical. Barack Obama is trained in the fine art of deception and has learned that lying is not a bad thing, but a necessary pathway to achieve goals.

    Alinsky dedicated the first edition of his book, “Rules for Radicals,” to Satan

    Folks, we do not want Obama in the White House. This will be the end of the American Society as we know it. Radicalism will become accepted and deception will be the rule of the day. What Obama’s agenda is, makes the Soviet Union style of propaganda look like child’s play.

    If you love America and what it stands for, you need to alert everyone you know about the far left radical Barack Hussein Obama. Obama is the great deceiver.

    1. http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-92191
    and other embedded links in the document(s)
    2 sodahead.com
    3. World Net Daily Posted Sept 24, 2008

  68. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    Regular must be upset that some Jews survived the Holocaust.

  69. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    …and still not a mumblin’ word about folks being illegally REMOVED from the voting rolls.

    In con land, the fewer voters, the better. Less of their money spent on kookaide purchases that way.

  70. mom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    I have a coworker that ranted and raved about Obama for an hour and was spewing all the usual Rush talking points about Obama (all of which have been debunked) and then had the audacity to say that they hoped nobody tried to shoot Obama if he did win the presidency.

    These types don’t think they are inciting anything and will not think themselves instrumental if anything should happen to Obama.

  71. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    “And note, in the article, the six states identified as having illegal purges are ALL swing states.”

    That makes sense Farm Girl, because ACORN readily admits they concentrated their illegal registration program IN the swing states.

    Naturally, when those working in the city, county, and state election registration offices FIND duplicates, triplicates, and dead people registrations – they are going to come under investigation.

    And in all six of the states – fraud by ACORN.

    In fact, if you read my topic post, ACORN ‘admits’ to fraud in Cleveland, Ohio.

    Americans (all parties) have NO problem with groups like ACORN registering people to vote.

    You miss the point.

  72. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    Well, it’s pretty clear you didnt read MY post or click on the link. I know you are allergic to facts that dont agree with your already made up mind. But…

    They were ILLEGALLY removing voters from the rolls. Not correcting mistakes.

    Illegally purging people and taking AWAY their right to vote.

    nitwit

    You can read, no? ‘Cause you sure dont show it.

  73. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Here’s part of the interview Regular conveniently left out:

    KROFT: In what way?

    SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and — and anticipate events and when — when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a — a very personal experience of evil.

    KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

    SOROS: Yes. Yes.

    KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

    SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

    Now Regular, why would you leave out part of the transcript? I guess you were hoping Soros would have uncovered his identity and been revealed as a Jew so he would have been gassed with the other 6 million Jews. Gotta round up everyone of them don’t you Regular? Thanks for letting your anti-Semitism be revealed.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200702050005

  74. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    “Naturally, when those working in the city, county, and state election registration offices FIND duplicates, triplicates, and dead people registrations – they are going to come under investigation.”

    Hey dumbass, want to provide some proof, or a link, that this is what was going on?

    Or do you just ENJOY your fact free posting?

  75. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    If you are:

    a person that hates the United States,
    a traitor,
    a communist,
    a socialist,
    a criminal,
    a terrorist,
    an illegal alien,
    lazy,
    envious,
    ignorant,
    stupid,
    mad that others are better than you,
    someone who like to kill unborn children,
    someone who needs a parent their entire life,
    someone who likes to run other people’s lives,
    someone who will surrender to any threat,

    then the Democrat Party is where you cast your vote. Pure and simple. – Hank Dagny

    Quite a broad brush stroke there.

    I’d gather to say that BOTH party’s are now socialist And BOTH party’s are traitor’s and haters of America.

    Bushco also belongs on your list of “Democratic” voters.

  76. Heckler
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Obama campaign is so desperate to look “Pro-Gun” that they resort to theft in order to deceive the folks.

    Obama Campaign Unlawfully Misuses Proprietary Firearms Industry Media List

    NEWTOWN, Conn. – The Obama campaign in Indiana, on September 27, unlawfully obtained and made unauthorized use of a proprietary media list belonging to the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) – the trade association for the firearms industry. Sen. Obama used this list to e-mail a press release concerning National Hunting and Fishing Day.

    http://www.nssf.org/news/PR_idx.cfm?PRloc=share/PR/&PR=100808.cfm&CFID=2387391&CFTOKEN=eef57b5ce593410a-DDFB32F0-CA97-A2A5-608387E32A2598C2&jsessionid=f030ac8cb0cfb706b493247385c2b35554c6

    Fortunately someone will go to jail for this one. Unfortunately it’ll just be some paeon.

  77. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    Guuiliani on Obama:
    (Interview with Andrea Mitchell)
    It’s ideology, not association

    “Giuliani—”This guy, educated in the Saul Alinsky methods. A good friend of Ayers. Very close to [Jeremiah]Wright. This is the most left wing candidate of the Democratic Party. Its ideology. Its ideology, Andrea. It’s not guilt by association.”

    Psychopaths

    True psychopaths like Obama are often charming, seductive, and treacherous. They make natural con artists. Obama and in general the far left convince others (their followers) that a “higher morality” allows them to act without conscience.

    Alinsky dedicated the first edition of his book, “Rules for Radicals,” to Satan

    How Barack Hussein Obama was trained in the methods of radical ways by Saul Alinksy, Bill Ayers, John L. McKnight and other radical philosophers and teachers.

    1. Obama was a community organizer.
    2. Saul Alinsky was a community organizer.

    Obama is so well-trained in Alinsky tactics that he used to teach workshops on it.

    An example of their Orwellian doublespeak is found in the use of the term “economic democracy” Derek Shearer, a former editor of Ramparts magazine, discussed the use of the phrase at a 1981 conference sponsored by Ralph Nader in Washington. In counseling attendees to use the term “economic democracy” instead of making direct references to socialism, Shearer noted that:

    while we can’t use the ‘IS” word [socialism] too effec- tively in American advertising, the word “economic democracy” sells. You can take it door to door like Fuller brushes and the doors will not be slammed in your face. So I commend it to you for those who are willing to compromise on the ‘IS” word.

    6 Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals: A Practical Guide for Radicals (New York: Random House, 1971). 7 Goralski, op. cit.

  78. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Anti-Semite.

  79. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    With the added costs to the employer of counting employer provided health insurance as income, many employers would discontinue offering it. It’s estimated that some 20,000,000 MORE Americans would lose their coverage in this way.

    Thanks Republicans. Great idea you support. oh, but let’s talk about Ayers and acorns. What’s next? birds and bees?

  80. brian_nuevo
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    “mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:26 am | Permalink
    …What’s next? birds and bees?”

    Definitely not.
    Republicans do not like talk of the birds and bees.

  81. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    “Illegally purging people and taking AWAY their right to vote.”

    Apparently Farm Girl you cannot read. ACORN is ILLEGALLY registering dead people..

    ACORN has been CONVICTED nationwide in numerous states and different elections of committing VOTER FRAUD.

    ACORN is TODAY, being investigated for unloading THOUSANDS of questionable ballots at registration offices across America.

    This is an established trend and character of FRAUD.

    Every registration form that ACORN submits becomes suspect. All are removed – and have to be examined individually to determine if each is valid. A tremendous drain on volunteers and county election offices.

    Once a liar, always a liar (per Capn America).

    ACORN needs to be stopped from their illegal activity. The burden should be on ACORN to ensure that each ballot is legit. The burden should not be on the government. If ACORN wants to play, they have to play fair and honest.

  82. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Heheh. HAHAHAAH> HEEEEEE HEE HEE HEEE!

    Do you guys really believe this crap you are posting? Or are you just putting on a brave face? Whisting past the political grave yard?

    Denial. It’s not just a river in Egypt.

    I cant WAIT for November 5. It’s gonna be fun around here watching them melt down.

    If there’s anything left of them by then.

    Ya know, this “obama is a terrorist” meme is just not getting any traction among voters not currently swilling the republican kookaide.

    Why do you keep pushing it when it clearing doesnt work? Remember, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is one definition of insanity.

    Carry on. I love the way it’s working for your boy and Bible Spice.

  83. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Great, stocks jumped at the open today after IBM issued a healthy earnings report and on reports that the government could take a stake in troubled banks.

    IBM, maker of the systems that kept track of Nazi concentration camp employees…oops, inmates says they are doing alright.

    Good then it’s all going swimmingly.

  84. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Sigh. I guess they think if they just say it LOUDER and more often, it will somehow be true?

    Yes. Please. I think this is exactly the strategy you should pursue, right up to the election….

    But I suspect you will still be singing your tired socialist/radical muslim/terrorist refrain even AFTER the election.

  85. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    It’s not voter fraud, it’s registration fraud. Dead people can’t vote, so they can’t commit voter fraud.

  86. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:07 am | Permalink
    msyzptlk opines:

    “Too late. We got that reputation in 2000 when the Supreme Court and not the people crowned King George.”

    So honesty and the law only matter when it is republicans committing the crime?

    If a “stolen” election was important to you then (and I read all your crying whining posts for years), why is it not important to have an honest election now?

    If you want President Obama to serve without blemish, or question of his integrity, I would think you would want this resolved now – not after he STEALS the election?

  87. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    Amway, what criminal charges have been filed against ACORN?

  88. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Dear Dumbass…

    Since you are clearly incapable of reading at the link, I’ll try your “Posting for Dummies” strategy and put the whole article, from Yahoo, right here.

    Note, IF you read it, it does NOT mention ACORN. It mentions REMOVING people illegally from the voter rolls, not registering illegal voters.

    What a Maroon.

    “NEW YORK – Tens of thousands of eligible voters have been removed from rolls or blocked from registering in at least six swing states, and the voters’ exclusion appears to violate federal law, according to a published report.

    The New York Times based its findings on reviews of state records and Social Security data.

    The Times said voters appear to have been purged by mistake and not because of any intentional violations by election officials or coordinated efforts by any party.

    States have been trying to follow the Help America Vote Act of 2002 by removing the names of voters who should no longer be listed. But for every voter added to the rolls in the past two months in some states, election officials have removed two, a review of the records shows.

    The newspaper said it identified apparent problems in Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Nevada and North Carolina. It says some states are improperly using Social Security data to verify new voters’ registration applications, and others may have broken rules that govern removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election.

    Democrats have been more aggressive at registering new voters this year, according to state election officials, so any closer screening of new applications may affect their party’s supporters disproportionately, the Times said.

    The result is that on Election Day, voters who have been removed from the rolls could show up and be challenged by political party officials or election workers.

    The six states seem to have violated federal law in two ways. Some are removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election, which is not allowed except when voters die, notify the authorities that they have moved out of state, or have been declared unfit to vote.

    And some of the states are improperly using Social Security data to verify registration applications for new voters, the newspaper reported.

    “Just as voting machines were the major issue that came out of the 2000 presidential election and provisional ballots were the big issue from 2004, voter registration and these statewide lists will be the top concern this year,” said Daniel P. Tokaji, a law professor at Ohio State University.”

  89. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    “Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:21 am | Permalink
    Outlander, ACORN registers Republicans too.”

    Any source on that statement Maggotpunk? Any numbers or stats you have hidden to support your claim?

    Something other than anything ACORN itself says.
    (they are proven liars and convicts)

    Everyone on this blog knows the truth.

    But nice try, but a shallow attempt at diversion.

  90. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    amway, you need to observe the first rule of holes here.

    If a “stolen” election was NOT important to you then (and I read all your crying whining posts for years), why is it important to have an honest election now?

    dumbass

  91. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    OMG, amway.

    “Any source on that statement Maggotpunk? Any numbers or stats you have hidden to support your claim?”

    So.. amway NEVER provides proof when asked, as I did. He just gives opinion.

    But he demands proof from others?

    heheheh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHA!

    Hypocrisy, thy name is…

  92. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    …and I notice he isnt answering questions, eiter.

    “Amway, what criminal charges have been filed against ACORN?”

  93. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    “Americans are just fed up with Republicans constant record of failure.”

    Then why on earth does ACORN need to submit registration cards for dead peole, movie stars, and football players in duplicate and triplicate?

  94. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    Arrests and prosecutions on ACORN members have been presented on this blog at least a dozen times in the past two days.

    Ya just can’t fix stupid and those who can’t read.

  95. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    Amway, ACORN has registered nearly 1.7 million people. It’s absurd to think the non-partisan group has not a single registered Republican resulting from that.

    BTW, what conviction are you talking about? ACORN has never been convicted of voter fraud. Your desperation is showing again.

  96. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    “Then why on earth does ACORN need to submit registration cards for dead peole, movie stars, and football players in duplicate and triplicate?”

    ACORN reports those to the proper governmental authorities. If it was their intent to file false voter applications then why would they work with the government in pointing out the ones that look questionable?

    You really need to get the facts but since you are a Republican I doubt you care about that.

  97. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Charges of voter fraud against groups like ACORN has been proven to be just another GOP plot to attack their opponents.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/15/AR2007051501874.html

    It’s no surprise the compulsive liars on this forum continue the lie.

  98. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    “ACORN has never been convicted of voter fraud. Your desperation is showing again.”

    Maggotpunk, just go back to the open thread for yesterday and the day before. Do a FIND for DavidB (aka liberal poster).

    He made the same false statement as you just did.

    He was man enough to admit he was wrong.

  99. lindainks55
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Obama said Wednesday, “I can take four more weeks of John McCain’s attacks, but America can’t take four more years of John McCain’s Bush policies.”

    The next four weeks of this will be a cakewalk! Senator Obama is absolutely correct in his statement.

  100. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    “It’s no surprise the compulsive liars on this forum continue the lie.”

    That is very, very true Maggotpunk.

    Please keep in touch. I’d hate to think you are one of them. My past experience with you is that you are not.

  101. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    From the AP:
    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvb0LfZQ5mY-X8PYSvYxTe3QGgdgD93LVDS80

    “”For the past 10 months, anytime ACORN has identified a potentially fraudulent application, we turn that application in to election officials separately and offer to provide election officials with the information they would need to pursue an investigation or prosecution of the individual,” Lewis said.

    She said ACORN had turned in 46 problem applications submitted by 33 former employees to election officials in the Las Vegas area, where it has registered 80,000 people.

    Miller said no one had been charged or arrested in Nevada.”

    That article was yesterday. How many people have been arrested since yesterday? According to the dishonest, inaccurate rants by the Republicans the result is still zero.

  102. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    “It’s absurd to think the non-partisan group has not a single registered Republican ”

    Don’t put words in my mouth that I did not say (unless you are Farm Girl). I never said that.

    I asked you to produce documentation to support your post that ACORN registers republicans too.

    I asked for some statistics. Facts.

    How many democrats ACORN registered.
    How many republicans ACORN registered.

    The facts are out there. Sometimes you have to be a little diligent to find them.

  103. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    My syndicated column today spotlights all of the latest ACORN voter fraud outbreaks, including yesterday’s ACORN office raid in Nevada. I filed the column before authorities had released those outrageous details of how “lazy crackheads” at a local prison climbed up the ACORN ladder. In other new developments, the Cuyahoga County Election Board has just grilled ACORN members suspected of more fraud:

    In one case, a Cleveland resident was registered to vote three times in a single day, listing two different addresses…The man’s registration was submitted to the Board of Elections by ACORN. The board discussed several other cases of multiple registrations at their meeting. ACORN was involved in each case, although not for all entries by the same individuals…Board Member Robert Frost said the group failed to follow guidelines in its own manual to turn over suspected voter fraud to law enforcement to investigate. Election officials subpoenaed three voters to appear before the Board next week to explain their multiple registrations.

    Just another endless, “isolated” case using ACORN’s standard operating procedure. Ho hum.

    Palestra.net has been doing excellent work. Shelby Holliday, who interviewed our favorite “Thug Thizzle” Homeless Man for Obama, has more here.

    Meanwhile, Obama continues to lie and lie about his ACORN ties. More from the invaluable Stanley Kurtz here.

    And McCain is doing…nothing.

    I see dead people.

    ***

    The ACORN/Obama thug thizzle
    by Michelle Malkin
    Creators Syndicate
    Copyright 2008

    Systemic corruption of our election process continues. Barack Obama and his old friends at ACORN and Project Vote are leading the way. This radical revolution is taking place in your backyard. And as I’ve reported before, this voter-fraud racket is on your dime.

    On Monday, the two liberal groups announced the wrap-up of a 21-state voter registration drive targeting low-income people and minorities in battleground states including Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Florida, New Mexico and Wisconsin.

    What’s wrong with that? For starters, these two groups are militant partisan outfits purporting to engage in nonpartisan civic activity. And their campaign comes amid an avalanche of fresh voter-fraud allegations involving ACORN in many of those same key states.

    On Tuesday, Nevada state officials raided ACORN’s Las Vegas office after election authorities accused the group of submitting multiple voter registrations with fake and duplicate names.

    ACORN, which receives 40 percent of its revenues from American taxpayers to pursue an aggressive welfare-state agenda, has already helped register over 1.27 million people nationwide. The rest of their funding comes from left-wing heavyweights like billionaire George Soros and the Democracy Alliance.

    Project Vote, a 501(c)(3) organization, was founded by left-wing lawyer Sandy Newman to register voters in welfare offices and unemployment lines with the explicit goal of turning back the Reagan revolution.

    The two groups are inextricably linked — and at their nexus is Barack Obama.

    In 1992, Newman hired Obama to lead Project Vote efforts in Illinois. The Illinois drive’s motto: “It’s a Power Thing.”

    As previously noted in this column (”The ACORN Obama Knows,” June 25, 2008), Obama also trained ACORN members in Chicago. In turn, ACORN volunteers worked on his Illinois campaigns and ACORN’s PAC endorsed his primary bid with full backing and muscle.

    Despite his adamant denials of any association with the group (his Fight the Smears website now claims “Barack Obama never organized with ACORN”), Obama’s political DNA is encoded with the ACORN agenda.

    The Obama campaign’s “Vote for Change” registration drive, running parallel to ACORN/Project Vote, is an all-out scramble to scrape up every last unregistered voter sympathetic to Obama’s big-government vision. “Our volume,” Obama campaign manager David Plouffe bragged of the voter-registration program, “will be enormous.”

    Quantity over quality. It’s the ACORN way.

    In addition to the Las Vegas raid, fraud allegations keep piling up:

    — Lake County, Ind., election officials this month rejected a large portion of the 5,000 registration forms ACORN turned in after conducting registration drives in the area all summer. Some vote canvassers had pulled names and addresses from telephone books and forged signatures. According to local reports, “large numbers of voter registration forms bore signatures all in the same apparent handwriting style” and “apparently the organization’s canvassers broke rules to meet ACORN-set voter registration quotas to get paid.” The fake registrants included dead people and underage kids.

    On a conference call yesterday, GOP officials noted that up to 11,000 voter applications were no good — tying up election officials and jeopardizing the voting rights of untold victims whose identities may have been stolen.

    – Last month, Milwaukee, Wis., officials discovered at least seven felons employed as voter registration workers for ACORN and another affiliated group. They also uncovered a raft of problematic voter registration cards. The state GOP accused ACORN of attempting to enroll dead, imprisoned or imaginary people to voter rolls. Fraud has plagued ACORN’s Milwaukee chapter since the last election cycle.

    – In Florida, in Orange County alone, ACORN workers turned in multiple copycat forms for six separate voters over the summer. According to the Miami Herald, “One individual had 21 duplicate applications.”

    Election officials had flagged ACORN’s negligent practices several months ago, but it may be too late: In Orange, Broward and Miami-Dade counties, ACORN has signed up 135,000 new voters, nearly 60 percent of them registered as Democrats that constitute a fifth of all new voters in that region.

    – In Ohio, large numbers of homeless people received free van and bus rides to register. Shelby Holliday, a reporter for Palestra.net, filmed ACORN shuttling prospects to the polls. She told me she spoke with one homeless woman who told her ACORN “told her who to vote for if she wanted a ‘better life,’ and told her not to worry about jury duty (one of the reasons this homeless woman didn’t want to register) because the government probably wouldn’t be able to track her down. She was registering with a temporary address.”

    Holliday interviewed another homeless man targeted by the registration drive who exulted that he was voting for Obama because “I want him to do his thang. You know, do his thug thizzle.”

    “Thug thizzle” is street slang for performing your trademark move. Obama and ACORN have practiced their thug thizzle together for years: organizing an ever-expanding community of ineligible and marginal voters to expand the Democratic power base. Rules be damned.

    Michelle Malkin Blog

  104. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    ACORN doesn’t publish such data. However they are non-partisan. It is the Republicans claim that they are working for Obama’s campaign or have some set agenda. So far Republicans have just made empty charges that dead people are voting (allusions to zombie Reagan I suppose). Frankly you guys are shelling out the same accusations as you did four years ago.

  105. Heckler
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    McKinniac

    From your cut and paste.

    “The Times said voters appear to have been purged by mistake and not because of any intentional violations by election officials or coordinated efforts by any party.”

    Did you read it yourself? I saw no allegations of fraud did your?

    “The six states seem to have violated federal law in two ways. Some are removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election, which is not allowed except when voters die, notify the authorities that they have moved out of state, or have been declared unfit to vote.”

    IANAL but from other such occurences in the past I seem to remember that Federal Law does not necassarily hold sway over state law when it comes to election laws.

  106. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    ““”For the past 10 months, anytime ACORN has identified a potentially fraudulent application, we turn that application in to election officials separately and offer to provide election officials with the information they would need to pursue an investigation or prosecution of the individual,”

    THis is NO excuse for FRAUD. This does NOT justify the submission of even ONE bogus registration form.

    ACORN needs to stop their evil ways. The LEADERSHIP of the organization needs to establish strict guidelines and train their volunteers. ACORN needs to start with the premise: WE WILL TOLERATE NO FRAUD OR FALSE SUBMISSION OF REGISTRATION FORMS. ACORN EMPLOYEES MUST ONLY REGISTER VOTERS WHOM THEY PERSONALLY ARE IN CONTACT WITH AND HAVE VIEWED DOCUMENTATION WHICH VERIFIES IDENTITY.

    As long as ACORN is being responsible for registering voters, they need to do so responsibly.

    Don’t tell me, “But they did 1.7 million….. crap”

    Each one, wins one. One at a time. Each one should verify/validate one at a time.

    FRAUD occurs with lack of supervision, involvement, and integrity by responsible parties.

  107. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    ““”For the past 10 months, anytime ACORN has identified a potentially fraudulent application, we turn that application in to election officials separately and offer to provide election officials with the information they would need to pursue an investigation or prosecution of the individual,”

    THis is NO excuse for FRAUD. This does NOT justify the submission of even ONE bogus registration form.

    ACORN needs to stop their evil ways. The LEADERSHIP of the organization needs to establish strict guidelines and train their volunteers. ACORN needs to start with the premise: WE WILL TOLERATE NO FRAUD OR FALSE SUBMISSION OF REGISTRATION FORMS. ACORN EMPLOYEES MUST ONLY REGISTER VOTERS WHOM THEY PERSONALLY ARE IN CONTACT WITH AND HAVE VIEWED DOCUMENTATION WHICH VERIFIES IDENTITY.

    As long as ACORN is being responsible for registering voters, they need to do so responsibly.

    Don’t tell me, “But they did 1.7 million….. crap”

    Each one, wins one. One at a time. Each one should verify/validate one at a time.

    FRAUD occurs with lack of supervision, involvement, and integrity by responsible parties.

  108. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Heckie,

    ““The six states seem to have violated federal law in two ways.”

    You may not be a lawyer, but surely you can google HAVA?

    They may, MAY, have violated the law unintentionally, but they violated the law none the less. You want to give them a pass because their illegal activities were “unintentional”?

    Uh, ok.

    I love how you “law and order” cons love the law.

    Until you dont…

  109. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    “FRAUD occurs with lack of supervision, involvement, and integrity by responsible parties.”

    Yep.

    Sounds like those six FORMERLY red swing states.

  110. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    “ACORN doesn’t publish such data. However ”

    However, you are therefore posting trash.

    For the second documented time today you have posted incorrect information and failed to correct it or acknowledge it.

    For posters who want to discuss the issues, post opinions, with integrity – you have become scroll over.

  111. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Funny that the anti-Semitic Regular has to refer to the racist Michelle Malkin. She also blames Latinos for the entire mortgage crisis. She appears on Fox News a lot, the same station that blamed minorities for the financial crisis. Something put Regular in a racist rage today, is it Obama’s massive lead in the electoral vote?

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/

  112. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    “Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    MALKIN?????????????????

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WTF?

    THAT explains it all.

  113. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Once again, the democrats on this blog instead of acknowledging there is a problem (aka ACORN), they have:

    1) Twisted the facts by posting false info
    2) Diverted the thread from the problem by posting their traditional, “Well they did it too”.

    I believe REGULAR once posted a chronological sequence of typical liberal tactics. I must have misplaced my copy. REGULAR?

  114. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    “However, you are therefore posting trash.”

    My position is entirely plausible. You are the one thinking that over 1.7 million registered voters all 100% of them cannot be Republican.

    In the meantime you can’t distinguish between registration fraud and voter fraud. It’s time you check up on common sense as well as the facts, you just make Republicans look more and more desperate. Kinda like how you had to push this same BS back in 2004.

  115. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    After two stolen Presidential elections, numerous stolen elections in Congress and the state level the Republicans are suddenly outraged that low and middle income people are registering in large numbers. Tell me again how voter registration is going to hurt America. I could use another laugh again.

  116. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Well, no wonder anti-Semites love malkin. She also agreed with the practice of internment of Japanese Americans during WWII.

    Do ya think, like McCoot, she “hates gooks” too, even though she is of Asian ancestry?

    A little info for the google challenged.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Malkin

  117. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    I might as well mention that today I’m filing documents concerning the campaign fraud that Operation Rescue and Kansans For Truth In Politics is engaging in. You might remember Operation Rescue, they are the ones who committed tax fraud by campaigning against Kerry while being a tax exempt organization.

  118. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    OMG

    American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    “For posters who want to discuss the issues, post opinions, with integrity – you have become scroll over.”

    Now THAT’S funny, and I dont care WHO ya are!

    Pot, meet kettle…

  119. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    #
    Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    I might as well mention that today I’m filing documents concerning the campaign fraud that Operation Rescue and Kansans For Truth In Politics is engaging in. You might remember Operation Rescue, they are the ones who committed tax fraud by campaigning against Kerry while being a tax exempt organization.
    ===========================
    That’s nice. Be sure and use the moniker “Maggotpunk,” to insure the Judges are duly aware of your political stance.

  120. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    “You might remember Operation Rescue, they are the ones who committed tax fraud by campaigning against Kerry while being a tax exempt organization.”

    IOKIYAAR

  121. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    Sure Regular, as long as you identify yourself as the racist, anti-Semite you are.

    Here’s what Geraldo Rivera has to say about your source Malkin:
    “Michelle Malkin is the most vile, hateful commentator I’ve ever met in my life. She actually believes that neighbors should start snitching out neighbors, and we should be deporting people. It’s good she’s in D.C. and I’m in NY. I’d spit on her if I saw her.”

    Then again, Malkin thinks Rachael Ray is an Islamic terrorist. Keep on surrounding yourself with insanity Regular, that way you’ll have plenty of your peers to make you look sane by comparison.

  122. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    “In con land, the fewer voters, the better”

    Let me make myself very clear. I will type this slowly so “some” of you can keep up.

    1. As one American, I want ALL Americans to register and vote. Sounds corny, but I was one of those who served and actually believed I was serving to protect our rights and way of life. To me, voting is the basis for democracy.

    2. I don’t care which party is commiting fraud related to our voting rights. I want it STOPPED.

    3. I don’t think America can withstand ANOTHER election, where the outcome was made at a political (supreme court) level – and NOT determined by the votes of the people (electoral issue discussion withheld).

    The last election in my opinion is still being felt by red and blue alike. The Florida vote tore us further apart.

    Another stolen election, by EITHER party, may be our last. At least, that would be my opinion.

    I would think, all Americans could find some level of common ground with me on this issue alone (and probably only this issue).

    But apparently I am wrong again.

  123. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    Why does Malkin’s beliefs make me an anti-semite?

    With that logic, because you hold communistic ideas, you approve of Soviet style Gulags and your best friends belong to the KGB.

  124. Maggotpunk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Regular, I’m referring to your intentional distortion of the 60 Minutes transcript to make Soros look like a Nazi collaborator. I can only think your intent was because of your intense hatred of Jews and your desire to have seen all of them perish in the death camps. But if you have an explanation for your intentional dishonesty then I’d love to hear how you could justify your lies.

  125. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Malkin is indeed a kunt.

  126. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    I would not be surprised to learn that the illegitimate registrations are being filled out by republicans trying to undermine registration drives.

  127. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    You have to see this –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E

  128. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Palin’s sleeping with a sedetionist, and all any repub wants to whine about is a loose affiliation with a 60’s radical.

  129. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    You have to see this –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E

    Scarey, these people are allowed to vote!

  130. samkan
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    >NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — The New York Federal Reserve is lending up to $37.8 billion to American International Group to give the troubled insurer access to much-needed cash.<

    Boy howdy, this will pay for a really big Party!!

  131. Boxlock
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Anybody, ie. the lesbian chicken farmer and others, that can read the documented unbiased news about ACORN’s illegal activities and voter registration fraud and then defend them are compete asses.
    Illegal is just fine if it serves their purpose.
    Disgusting people!!!

  132. MaxGrobnik
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    I would think, all Americans could find some level of common ground with me on this issue alone (and probably only this issue).

    But apparently I am wrong again.

    =============================================================

    Yup, wrong again AmWay.

    Even though you helped crack that ACORN Nut this week, the Dems don’t care. The Dems support Acorn, heck, the Dems ARE Acorn.

    BOTTOM LINE:

    DemoRats don’t care if they have to steal the election to win. Socialism at all costs for them.

  133. gster
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    “Anybody, ie. the lesbian chicken farmer ”

    Is there much of a market for lesbian chickens? I’m not familiar with that species.

  134. beber
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Never say I didn’t do anything for you. Great streaming music.

    http://www.wncw.org/ListenLive.html

  135. beber
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Re: Lez chickens.

    Well, there’s capons, and there’s tampons.

  136. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    I think kfg raises muslim chickens as their cloacas are all sewn shut.

  137. beber
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    This whole blog is scrollovers scrolling over other scrollovers. Or scroll, scroll, scroll yer boat.

  138. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    …and you wingnuts are defending the ILLEGAL purging of voters from the rolls in formerly red swing states.

    nitwits

    Please post where I defended ACORN. Go ahead. I’ll wait.

    Lesbian chickens? Well, when you have nothing, I guess that’s the best you can post.

    But we are amused, and we do encourage you to try again.

  139. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    “DemoRats don’t care if they have to steal the election to win. Socialism at all costs for them.”

    Heh. Democrats dont HAVE to win this election for socialism to rule.

    Bushco and paulson already beat the Democrats to it!

  140. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Reposted for max’s benefit.

    “Oh and Max? The obama administration is coming to confiscate your guns, give them to ACORN, headed up by Bill Ayers, and they will use them to FORCE you to worship Islam.

    heheheh.

    That ought to send max under the bed.

    After he wets it….”

  141. StevenEDavis
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Cons, one and all,

    It is looking like a Muslim terrorist is going to be our next president. You might want to start checking out Canadian real estate.

    Psst… it does not look cheap up there.

    http://www.realestatecanada.com/

  142. lindainks55
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    “Scarey, these people are allowed to vote!” — Phantom

    That was going to be my comment on watching the YouTube video MonkeyHawk shared! They also seemed very representative of the bottom half of those Americans below average intelligence — the bottom 25%. Isn’t it ironic that is also about the percentage of bush supporters!? McCain counts on those people as his base.

    Guess we can find comfort in knowing their numbers are smaller than ours. So even if they all vote, they can’t win elections!

  143. Heckler
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    “Great Merciful Zeus! Tomorrow could be the start of Fitzmas: rumor in Chicago is Patrick Fitzgerald is investigating ACORN and SoetorObama campaign for RICO violations”

    http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/great-merciful-zeus-tomorrow-could-be-the-start-of-fitzmas-rumor-in-chicago-is-patrick-fitzgerald-is-investigating-acorn-and-soetorobama-campaign-for-rico-violations/

  144. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Heheh Linda.

    Joe “dead intern” Scarborough said this morning that Bible Spice herself is a “low information voter”. He also added that is why she does so well with other “low information voters”.

    Richard Stengel agreed, as did the entire panel.

    “low information voters” = nitwits

  145. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    “Please post where I defended ACORN. Go ahead. I’ll wait.”

    still waiting…

    (crickets chirping)

  146. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    “Kansas values” Regular posted October 9, 2008 at 9:13 am

    Guuiliani on Obama:
    (Interview with Andrea Mitchell)

    “Giuliani—”This guy,. . . A good friend of Ayers.

    —————

    Giuliani is NOT a credible source, and he can’t even spread his friend’s (McCain) lies.

    ‘Giuliani ties Obama to Saul Alinsky on Morning Joe…And manages to lie in less than 30 seconds.’
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/7/9646/16637
    “First Ayers.

    Then Wright.

    It looks like Saul Alinsky is on today’s McCain TP Memo.

    Mr. Mayor made a fool of himself on Morning Joe, and the transcript shows how Andrea Mitchell and Mika Brzezinski called him out.

    Giuliani—”This guy, educated in the Saul Alinsky methods. A good friend of Ayers.

    Mitchell—”But Mr. Mayor, the NY Times said he was not a good friend.

    Giuliani—”I didn’t say he was a friend. I said…”

    Brzezinski—”What are you saying?”

    Mitchell—”"You said he was a good friend.

    Giuliani—”He … I don’t know if it was a friendship or not.

  147. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    We don’t mention Scarborough’s dead intern here.

  148. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Heh Cosmos! Their relationship with the truth is even looser than the relationship between ayers and obama!

  149. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Is McCain ASHAMED of his Christian running mate?!

    Palin’s religious background must initially have been seen as a positive to McCain campaign vetters, who assumed that her faith would appeal to the conservative base of the party that has always been suspicious of McCain. But ever since she joined the ticket in late August, the Alaska governor’s various religious affiliations have caused headaches.

    First came reports that her pastor at the nondenominational Wasilla Bible Church was connected to Jews for Jesus, an organization that seeks to convert Jews to Christianity. Prominent Jewish leaders, including the co-chair of McCain’s Jewish outreach effort, have since demanded to know whether Palin also believes that Jews must be converted. The Bible Church became an issue again when Katie Couric asked Palin about the church’s promotion of a program to help gays “overcome” their homosexuality.

    And finally, a videotape surfaced of a 2005 service at the Wasilla Assembly of God Church, the Pentecostal church that Palin attended for most of her life. In the scene captured on video, Palin stands at the front of the sanctuary while a visiting African pastor prays that God will help her gubernatorial campaign and protect her “from every form of witchcraft.” Later in the same service, the pastor complains that “Israelites” held too many prominent positions in business, a comment that has further alienated Jewish voters.

    While the McCain campaign has promoted Palin to religious conservatives as a woman of “strong faith,” they have gone to unusual lengths to avoid providing a picture of that faith. In fact, a Palin spokeswoman says the Alaska governor is “not a Pentecostal,” and points out that Palin was baptized as a child as a Roman Catholic, although there is no record that her family attended Catholic services before joining the Pentecostal church where she became saved at age 11. The candidate does not even claim the Evangelical label, instead using the code phrase “Bible-believing Christian” to describe herself. Palin’s official biography on the McCain campaign website makes no mention of her religious affiliation.

  150. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    hehehe. HAHAHAHAHA.

    November 5 is gonna be so.much.fun.

  151. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    “The candidate does not even claim the Evangelical label, instead using the code phrase “Bible-believing Christian” to describe herself.”

    HAHAHAHAHA!

    That’s why we call her Bible Spice. Because “wolf hunting from airplanes” Spice, and “sporty” Spice, were already taken.

    And she hardly qualifies as “posh”, although that is taken too.

    Bible Spice.

  152. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    “…lesbian chicken farmer…”?!

    I think you oughta look into that, “ksfarmgrrl.”

  153. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Cindy McCain has to be holding her nose when she’s around Palin, doncha think?

  154. Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Heckler – who is “SoetorObama”? That cannot just be a typo – it is all over that blog.

  155. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    But personally, I prefer Caribou Barbie!

  156. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Oh hell Monkeyhawk. The only thing more difficult than hearding cats would be “raising” lesbian chickens.

    They dont like cages, there are no pot lucks, and…

    Those tiny little flannel shirts and hiking boots are so expensive…

  157. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    #
    ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Heh Cosmos! Their relationship with the truth is even looser than the relationship between ayers and obama!
    ========================
    That’s the second time cosmos has posted that and both time his conclusion was wrong.

    Guiliani implied it’s not about association, it’s about ideology.

    Get it?

    cosmos?

    ideology

    Well, I know he won’t get it, cosmos is too busy pulling his underwear from his crack.

  158. JMWalker
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    gster
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:51 am | Permalink
    “Anybody, ie. the lesbian chicken farmer ”

    Is there much of a market for lesbian chickens? I’m not familiar with that species
    ===================================================
    Actually, that particular species DARES the fox to come into the coop.

  159. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    “Oh hell Monkeyhawk. The only thing more difficult than hearding cats would be “raising” lesbian chickens.”

    Oh yeah, and it’s hell on the roosters too. Hard on their fragile male egos…

  160. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    (imagines chickens on kfg’s farm wearing L.L. Bean clothing with mullet feather-cuts and “claw-bumping” each other)

  161. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Guilliani the gangster/mob pal? Tee hee. Ideology. Right.

  162. Heckler
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    bth

    Don’t know what the “Soetor” means.

    Fun little website. Read their “About” page.

    http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/

    Rezco may be spilling it.

    http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/more-confirmation-tony-rezko-is-talking-to-prosecutors-about-blagojevich-and-soetorobama/

  163. JMWalker
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:42 am | Permalink
    “Oh hell Monkeyhawk. The only thing more difficult than hearding cats would be “raising” lesbian chickens.”

    Oh yeah, and it’s hell on the roosters too. Hard on their fragile male egos
    =================================================
    I think you mean, “fragile male eggos!!!”

  164. XXX
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink
    Why does Malkin’s beliefs make me an anti-semite?
    _______________________________________________

    Why does Bill Ayers beliefs make Obama a terrorist?

  165. Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Yep – funny litle site. I still wonder who “Soetor” is.

  166. littlejohn
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Lesbian chickens? I thought it was Lebanese chickens. Oh well. They all “taste like chicken”

  167. Heckler
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Dems.

    Check out this website. Seems there’s at least a few Democrats out there who know what Obama is and really don’t want him to be President.

    Could be just bitter Hillary clingers though.

    http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/

  168. Heckler
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    bth

    I believe Soetor is the name of Obama’s stepfather or something like that. From the Philipines.

  169. ANTI
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    (CBS)From CBS News’ Dean Reynolds:

    (NASHVILLE, TENN.) – After most of the previous 12 months covering Barack Obama’s campaign for the presidency, it was interesting, instructive and, well, relaxing to follow John McCain for the last few days. The differences between the two are striking.

    Obama is the big time orator, McCain is the guy who struggles with a teleprompter or even note cards strategically placed nearby. Obama’s crowds are larger, more enthusiastic. McCain’s events are smaller, but to my eye, better choreographed. And now with the addition of Sarah Palin to some of his events, McCain can boast of crowds that match Obama’s in energy.

    There is an urgency to the McCain campaign now that I don’t think was there before. Due to the fact that he is running second, no doubt, but it may also be because McCain has a finishing kick. Whatever the case, he is sharper on the stump than he was before. (Though I would suspect a candidate running behind would want to schedule two or three appearances per day, instead of the one McCain usually does.)

    It is true that McCain enjoys taking questions from the audience in town hall-style settings. That doesn’t mean he is the master of that kind of forum, it just means he’s good at it. He likes to converse with voters. Obama does it well too, but seldom achieves that intangible bond with the people that all politicians crave — or fake.

    Behind the scenes, where the public is not allowed, there are other differences.

    Obama’s campaign schedule is fuller, more hectic and seemingly improvisational. The Obama aides who deal with the national reporters on the campaign plane are often overwhelmed, overworked and un-informed about where, when, why or how the candidate is moving about. Baggage calls are preposterously early with the explanation that it’s all for security reasons.

    If so, I would love to have someone from Obama’s campaign explain why the entire press corps, the Secret Service, and the local police idled for two hours in a Miami hotel parking lot recently because there was nothing to do and nowhere to go. It was not an isolated case.

    The national headquarters in Chicago airily dismisses complaints from journalists wondering why a schedule cannot be printed up or at least e-mailed in time to make coverage plans. Nor is there much sympathy for those of us who report for a newscast that airs in the early evening hours. Our shows place a premium on live reporting from the scene of campaign events. But this campaign can often be found in the air and flying around at the time the “CBS Evening News with Katie Couric” is broadcast. I suspect there is a feeling within the Obama campaign that the broadcast networks are less influential in the age of the internet and thus needn’t be accomodated as in the days of yore. Even if it’s true, they are only hurting themselves by dissing audiences that run in the tens of millions every night.

    The McCain folks are more helpful and generally friendly. The schedules are printed on actual books you can hold in your hand, read, and then plan accordingly. The press aides are more knowledgeable and useful to us in the news media. The events are designed with a better eye, and for the simple needs of the press corps. When he is available, John McCain is friendly and loquacious. Obama holds news conferences, but seldom banters with the reporters who’ve been following him for thousands of miles around the country. Go figure.

    The McCain campaign plane is better than Obama’s, which is cramped, uncomfortable and smells terrible most of the time. Somehow the McCain folks manage to keep their charter clean, even where the press is seated.

    The other day in Albuquerque, N.M., the reporters were given almost no time to file their reports after McCain spoke. It was an important, aggressive speech, lambasting Obama’s past associations. When we asked for more time to write up his remarks and prepare our reports, the campaign readily agreed to it. They understood.

    Similar requests are often denied or ignored by the Obama campaign aides, apparently terrified that the candidate may have to wait 20 minutes to allow reporters to chronicle what he’s just said. It’s made all the more maddening when we are rushed to our buses only to sit and wait for 30 minutes or more because nobody seems to know when Obama is actually on the move.

    Maybe none of this means much. Maybe a front-running campaign like Obama’s that is focused solely on victory doesn’t have the time to do the mundane things like print up schedules or attend to the needs of reporters.

    But in politics, everything that goes around comes around.

  170. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    #
    XXX
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink
    Why does Malkin’s beliefs make me an anti-semite?
    _______________________________________________

    Why does Bill Ayers beliefs make Obama a terrorist?
    ============================
    Well, if you would have been following my posts, you might get an idea.

    Obama is not a terrorist, but an ideological clone after the Saul Alinsky model. Saul Alinsky was a radical who coined the term “community organizer.”

    This is a style patterned after communist style takeovers of democracies.

    Some of the “rules” are:

    - It’s okay to lie.
    - Use catch phrases like economic democracy instead of socialism.
    - Use words like manifestation instead of radical change.
    - Invoke the “Change” mantra (another Saul Alinsky original catch word.)
    - Avoid answering controversial questions by stating the obvious, but leaving out facts – “Bill Ayers lives in my neighborhood” and not the fact that both set on the same Woods Foundation Board and handed out 100 million dollars and nothing changed in Chicago, education wise. It was to pay off cronies.
    - etc. etc.

    Do try to keep up.

  171. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    “ksfarmgrrl” provides agrarian insight –

    “…it’s hell on the roosters too. Hard on….”

    Ask your veterinarian if Chicken Viagra is right for you.

  172. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    HeyHeyHey!
    What da ya say
    Let’s steal the election today!

    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3144061&maven_referralPlaylistId=c985e69916535a2170b2b18ab0ab7eb60401f9bb&sRevUrl=http://elections.foxnews.com/search-results.html?searchString=voter+fraud

  173. littlejohn
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    bth
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink
    Yep – funny litle site. I still wonder who “Soetor” is.

    According to many reports, Barak Hussein Obama used to be known as Barry Soetor

  174. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Fraud tied to Obama:

    HeyHeyHey!
    What da ya say
    Let’s steal the election today!

    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3143946&maven_referralPlaylistId=c985e69916535a2170b2b18ab0ab7eb60401f9bb&sRevUrl=http://elections.foxnews.com/search-results.html?searchString=voter+fraud

  175. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ivQczE8meE&eurl=http://www.infowars.com/?p=5175

    Obama sheep don’t like free speech.

    This is your new Amerika.

  176. Grateful_Dave
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    WE WILL WE WILL BARRACK YOU!!!
    Johnny you’re an old man
    yer med’s are kickin’
    and Palin’s freakin’
    we’d slap THAT ONE on your face
    YOU BIG DISGRACE
    GO WAVE YOUR WHITE BANNER ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!
    SING IT!
    WE WILL WE WILL BARRACK YOU! sing it–
    WE WILL BIDEN – BARRACK YOU!

  177. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Stuffing of ballot boxes:

    HeyHeyHey!
    What da ya say
    Let’s steal the election today!

    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3143765&maven_referralPlaylistId=c985e69916535a2170b2b18ab0ab7eb60401f9bb&sRevUrl=http://elections.foxnews.com/search-results.html?searchString=voter+fraud

  178. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    But the Republican Convention folks didn’t like it either.

    Mass arrests ring a bell??

    This is what you people want?

    Really?

    I’m ready to leave this place to your destruction.

  179. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Regular posted October 9, 2008 at 11:40 am

    That’s the second time cosmos has posted that and both time his conclusion was wrong.
    ———

    Third time.

    And my conclusion is 100% accurate. Giuliani is NOT a credible source on anything about Obama. Giuliani just parrots lies from his friend McCain, and the RNC.

  180. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Wow! Kansas City, Kansas City here we come!~

    Here’s one closer to home:

    “Employees of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, commonly known as ACORN, are under investigation in Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin since local election officials started noticing irregularities among the thousands of registrations submitted by ACORN.

    The ACORN organizer in one state said the organization had no way of checking all registrations.

    Officials in Missouri, a hard-fought jewel in the presidential race, are sifting through possibly hundreds of questionable or duplicate voter-registration forms.

    Charlene Davis, co-director of the election board in Jackson County, where Kansas City is, said the fraudulent registration from ACORN were bogging down work Wednesday, the final day Missourians could register to vote.

    “I don’t even know the entire scope of it because registrations are coming in so heavy,” Davis said. “We have identified about 100 duplicates, and probably 280 addresses that don’t exist, people who have driver’s license numbers that won’t verify or Social Security numbers that won’t verify. Some have no address at all.”

  181. Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Voting Democrat is like running in the Special Olympics.
    Even if you win, you’re still retarded.

  182. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    This whole country is retarded.

  183. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Now I like this one! THE ACORN NUT!!!!!! YEPPER!!
    YEPPEREEE!!!!

    Even though you helped crack that ACORN Nut

    And some nut upthread wants to pretend ACORN represents cons!!! Freaking idiots. Nut jobs one and all.

  184. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Great posts RoaCH!

    Looks like ACORN and the Democrats are trying to commit some serious voter fraud.

    The FBI is involved now, a lot will be going to prison.

  185. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    “What the Milwaukee Police found: vote fraud
    By Patrick McIlheran
    Friday, Feb 29 2008, 03:49 PM
    Since Milwaukee’s the biggest town in what may again be the nation’s closest state next November, it’s fair to suggest that we might well be the factory that makes the nation’s next presidency.

    So it’s alarming that Milwaukee’s police say the factory’s dirty.

    Read for yourself

    http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/news/MPD_2004voterfraudprobe_22608.pdf

    the belated report from the police task on the monumental bungle of Milwaukee’s 2004 presidential election, in which votes outnumbered voters by the thousands. This helps you see what the really amazing development has been — the way the reaction of the bien-pensant has been to snarl, to say the problems are already fixed or, mainly, to insist there’s no fraud.”

  186. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    “The FBI is involved now, a lot will be going to prison”.

    Oooooooooooohhhhhhhh, then something WILL be done!

    This is important?

    How about history’s biggest bank heist?
    The bankrupting of my beloved America?
    Martial Law?
    Wars without end against everyone in the world?

    No, this is all tinfoil hat-wearing b.s. huh?

    Boot licker’s.

  187. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    “It is the opinion of Task Force investigators that more than any other recommendation we could make, our investigation has concluded that the one thing that could eliminate a large percentage of fraud or the appearance of fraudulent voting on any given Election is the elimination of the On-Site or Same Day voter registration system… Given the inability of Election Inspectors to check the eligibility of a voter on the day of any election, there is no other way to ensure that only eligible voters are voting on Election Day.”

  188. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    #
    Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    “The FBI is involved now, a lot will be going to prison”.

    Oooooooooooohhhhhhhh, then something WILL be done!

    This is important?

    How about history’s biggest bank heist?
    The bankrupting of my beloved America?
    Martial Law?
    Wars without end against everyone in the world?

    No, this is all tinfoil hat-wearing b.s. huh?

    Boot licker’s.
    ———————
    Settle yourself conspiracy boy – the FBI is investigating fraud in the banking and stock industry as well. I’m sure there will be a lot of prison time there as well.

  189. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    And now re-read Amways post about Ohio (same day voter reg):

    Voter-registration can’t be totally fraud-free, group says

    Voter-registration group cites lack of resources
    Wednesday, October 08, 2008 Joe GuillenPlain Dealer Reporter

    A national voter-registration group admitted to Cuyahoga County election officials Tuesday that it cannot eliminate fraud from its operation.

    The group blamed inefficiency and lack of resources (notice whine for public money?) for problems such as being unable to spot duplicate voter-registration cards or cards that may have been filled out by workers to make quotas.

    The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, has turned in at least 65,000 cards to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections in the last year. The board has investigated potentially fraudulent cards since August.

    The group has faced similar inquiries in other large Ohio counties. And Nevada state authorities recently raided ACORN’s Las Vegas headquarters searching for evidence of fraud, according to the Associated Press.

    Local representatives of the organization told Cuyahoga board members that they don’t have the resources to identify fraudulent cards turned in by paid canvassers who are told to register low- and moderate-income voters.

    Cuyahoga election workers flagged about 50 names on suspicious cards. The cards were to register the same names, raising the possibility that canvassers shared information when trying to make quotas.

    “This is not something you can catch with your internal controls, apparently,” said board member Sandy McNair at the meeting.

    “Not perfectly, no,” replied Mari Engelhardt, ACORN political director for Ohio.

    Once stacks of registration cards are returned to ACORN offices, workers verify information by calling the phone number provided on the card, the board was told. If information is missing or ACORN identifies a suspicious card, it is given to the Board of Elections with a notice that it could be problematic.

    ACORN workers who double-check cards can’t be expected to remember names and addresses previously verified, said Teresa James, an attorney for Project Vote representing ACORN.

    Engelhardt said supervisors sometimes fail to prevent different canvassers from attempting to register the same person.

    “We do not have the resources to know if a particular card is fictitious,” James said.

    Voter-registration organizations cannot, by law, withhold registration cards from election boards. The groups are obligated to report potential errors, a spokesman for Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner told The Plain Dealer.

    Kris Harsh, ACORN’s head Cleveland organizer, blamed the elections board for not scrutinizing ACORN’s suspicious cards. He said the group can’t be expected to catch everything.

  190. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    ATTORNEY GENERAL VAN HOLLEN’S STATEMENT ON MILWAUKEE POLICE DEPARTMENT’S REPORT ON 2004 ELECTION

    ——————————————————————————–
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
    February 26, 2008
    ——————————————————————————–

    MADISON – Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen issued the following statement this afternoon in response to the Milwaukee Police Department’s report on the 2004 general election that was issued today:

    Yesterday afternoon, investigators from the Milwaukee Police Department delivered to me a copy of the Department’s Report of the Investigation into the November 2, 2004 General Election in the City of Milwaukee. The report’s detailing of election irregularities in 2004 is extraordinarily troublesome. It is, unfortunately, not surprising.

    The right to vote is the most fundamental of all political freedoms. But it isn’t simply the right to vote that protects our democracy; it is the right to vote in fair elections, untainted by election fraud. Make no mistake. The dilution of one’s lawful vote through the unlawful casting of ballots is a dilution of the most fundamental of our political freedoms.

  191. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    A Milwaukee Police Department investigation into the November 2004 General Election in the city of Milwaukee states that a number of problems occurred in the handling of record keeping for the election.

    The 67-page report, conducted by the MPD’s Special Investigations Unit, includes areas of double voter entries, un-entered absentee ballots, 220 felons voting, and the actions of election inspectors.

    The majority of the issues cited in the report seem to be record keeping issues, which makes the possibility for voter fraud that much greater.

    The report indicates 5,300 more ballots were cast than voters recorded, and it cites 1,305 unenterable on-site registration cards in Milwaukee as a possible reason for this voter gap.

    Some of the onsite cards didn’t have addresses in Milwaukee. Some weren’t signed, and some didn’t even have names.

    The task force says it believes one way to eliminate the possibility for fraud, or the appearance of fraudulent voting, is to eliminate on-site or same-day voter registration all together, or government-issued identification like a photo ID or social security card.

    Two separate investigations by a task force formed by Mayor Tom Barrett began after claims of voter fraud occurred in a number of different avenues: felons voting, organized efforts to get people who didn’t live in Milwaukee to vote in the city, and problems with absentee ballots.

    The report states “this investigation concentrated its efforts on the reports’ 1,305 ‘un-enterable’ On-Site Voter Registration cards, 2400 ‘undeliverable’ verification cards, and Absentee ballots sent into the Milwaukee Elections Commission.”

    Data Entry Problems

    When it came to double entries, the investigation says that the majority of them happened due to data entry errors by Election Commission workers.

    It states that 785 on-site registered voters had cards registered without dates of birth.

    1305 people were found with “un-enterable” on-site registration cards due to valid addresses, names, identifications, signatures, voter numbers, illegibilities or lack of home in the City of Milwaukee.

    41% of them voted.

    55 people on the “un-enterable” list were found to live outside the city of Milwaukee on the date of the election. The investigation says that even if there was no criminal intent on any part of these people to vote incorrectly, it still proved that election inspectors were not following state laws properly in these cases.

    One case involved someone from Chicago who registered to vote by simply placing on their registration card an address of a friend with whom they were staying on West Pierce Street in Milwaukee.

    Another used a Journal Sentinel newspaper as proof of residency. Others placed suburbs of Wauwatosa and Greenfield on their address listing, but poll inspectors allowed them to vote in Milwaukee.

    The MPD investigation says that having same-day registration and voting “places the onus on poll inspectors to be that much more diligent when allowing persons to vote.”

    It also contended that it would be easy for political groups to flood local races because “it is apparent that the Milwaukee Election Commission allows anyone who shows up at a polling location, even when listing an address outside of the Ward or city, to vote.”

    Felons Voting

    Investigators discovered that 220 felons voted in the city of Milwaukee during the 2004 elections. The U.S. Attorney’s office indicted eight of them, while the Milwaukee County District Attorney indicted two, with the investigation saying that those small amounts of prosecutions caused by poor record keeping by the Milwaukee Election Commission.

    The MPD investigation also found five felons who worked as election inspectors. It says that Kimberly Prude, one of the felons indicted by the U.S. Attorney’s ofice, actually registered on-site voters. Additionally, the election commission gave the names of 18 convicted felons who worked as deputy registrars.

    The task force blames a lack of awareness on the part of convicted felons that they couldn’t vote. As stated in the investigation report, “prior to the 2004 General Election there were a small number of Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judges who advised convicted felons that they could not vote until their civil rights were restored.”

    The investigation also found what it calls a “glaring weakness” in the Statewide Voter Registration System, saying that the list of felons ineligible to vote that goes to each ward only includes those who live in that specific ward, and not the entire list.

    If a convicted felon went to a different ward to vote, a poll worker would then not have advised them that they could not vote, and they could potentially cast a ballot.

    The City of Milwaukee now has language specific to felons on its voter registration cards.

    Homeless Voters

    179 people were found to use the address of two social service locations on Vliet Street to register for the 2004 election that didn’t provide overnight operations at the time.

    Those facilities, Repairers of the Breach and the Marcia Coggs Human Services Center, cannot technically call themselves residences for homeless people, and therefore, cannot be counted as legal residences for voting.

    29 of them voted in the 2004 elections.

    The task force states that with hundreds of registered homeless voters in Milwaukee who can cast absentee ballots and don’t have to register addresses in the future, groups could potentially exploit them and affect the outcome of an election.

    College Students

    1,887 people voted in Ward 39, mainliy consisting of UWM’s Sandburg Hall, a dorm on campus. However, 2,101 ballots were cast in Ward 39. The investigation says it could not come up with definitive answers for the 214 extra votes cast, but that those votes weren’t properly certified by inspectors.

    Adidtionally, the voter registration list says that due to past voter registration lists, 2,600 people who live in Sandberg Hall could vote from that address.

    The investigation report suggests that the Election Commission should purge all voter records from college-owned housing for all colleges and universities in the City of Milwaukee.

    Republican Complaints

    Four times, the Republican Party of Wisconsin filed complaints about the 2004 election.

    The first report had to do with the validity of 5,619 address on Milwaukee’s voter rolls. The Postal Inspector’s Office looked into them and found 554 invalid addresses. The task force found 370 of them that weren’t legally homes.

    309 of the suspect addresses came from typographical errors by Election Commission employees. One person on those lists died in 2001.

    The investigation stated that the problem came from many election inspectors not following through with requiring proper identification from the voters who cast ballots from the questioned list.

    The second Republican Party complaint came in August, 2005 and had to do with nine allegations of double voting in different cities, some who allegedly voted in Chicago, Madison and Minneapolis along with Milwaukee.

    The investigation showed that none of the alleged double vote cases actually occured. Six involved mistakes by Election Commission workers, while three involved people with closely matching names.

    Only three of those cases had evidence of double voting that even led to additional investigations about committed crimes.

    The third Republican complaint, also in August of 2005, had to do with 60 potential double-voters in Milwaukee.

    The task force investigation showed that in the end, all those situations happened due to election commission errors, with 21 people accidentally listed twice in the database of voters.

    The final Republican complaint, later in August 2005, involved complaints of nine voters who allegedly cast ballots in Milwaukee and Cook County, IL, the county that includes the City of Chicago.

    The investigation says that one person’s ballot simply was an error by an Election Commission worker, while another case involved an age discrepancy of 25 years between the potential double voter’s registration and the Republican complaint.

    The report also states in the cases of he seven possible voters who may have voted twice:

    “The unreliability of the Milwaukee election records and the lack of confidence that both prosecutors and juries had in those records, prohibited the Task Force from proceeding with any further criminal inquiries into these seven alleged double voters.”

    Absentee Voters

    Milwaukee’s Election Commission says it took in about 20,000 absentee ballots in the 2004 general election.

    The investigation showed that many legal absentee votes didn’t count because of inspectors not following guidelines to certify them.

    Also, in a sampling of 2,000 absentee ballots the task force investigated, it found problems with how the Election Commission certified absentee ballots, and how it allowed illegal ballots to count.

    Some of those illegal ballots counting involved cases with people who work in the City of Milwaukee, but didn’t live there.

    Many absentee votes were incorrectly put in “rejected” piles when they had sworn registered voter cards and proper votes cast.

    In some cases, about 71 sealed Absentee Certification Envelopes from the south side were never processed. Other cases had sealed envelopes with recorded votes, and unsealed envelopes with ballots, but no recorded votes.

    The investigation suggests that the State Elections Board should help train election inspectors to work with absentee certification for future elections.

    “The 10-Day Resident”

    The investigation showed the possibility of a tendency that, considering Wisconsin’s “battleground state” status, many people may choose to live in Milwaukee for only as long as needed to vote in an election: 10 days.

    Investigators show that because the political parties involved in Presidential elections see the importance of Wisconsin’s electoral votes, 16 individuals from political campaigns may have taken advantage of that rule and cast ballots in Wisconsin, and they got away with it because fo the 10-day rule.

    As the report states: “There is nothing that would stop either of the major parties from rotating volunteers an/or paid staff through Wisconsin in the weeks leading up to Novemebr 2008 for a 10-day period to gain “residency” and then cast ballots, absentee, registered, or as same day registrants.

    Commission Errors Prevented Successful Prosecution

    The U.S. Attorney’s Office indicted four people in cases involving alleged double voting, but the investigation says the mistakes by Election Commission workers made it impossible to succeed in convicting the defendants.

    “The Milwaukee Election Commission, through their ineptitue, raised enough reasonable doubt to prevent any further criminal prosecution,” says the report.

    “Jurors responded after the trials that although there appeared to be evidence that these individuals had voted more than once…mismanagement of the voting records by the Election Commission presented them with questions about the record system and they could not find guilt ‘beyond a reasonable doubt.’ ”

    Same-Day Voter Registration Cards

    When voters register on the same day, the U.S. Postal Service sends them verification cards.

    In the 2004 election, 2,378 of them came back to the Milwaukee Election Commission as undeliverable.

    1,180 of them were clerical errors by commission employees, 1055 were thrown out due to a “likelihood that any address discrepancy was due to commission error, not voter fraud,” and the task force couldn’t find proof to verify a number of names or that htey lived in Milwaukee.

  192. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Not a chance, Regular.

    The fox runs the henhouse.

    Conspiracy:

    1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

    2. A group of conspirators.

    3. Law. An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.

    4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design: a conspiracy of wind and tide that devastated coastal areas.

  193. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    A good overview of what happened,

    Reality intrudes and McCain buckles
    http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/10/09/reality_intrudes_and_mccain_buckles/?s_campaign=8315

  194. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Finally, the actual report. I can put this link here knowing full well that dims cain’t read. But cons will want to learn from it, so they can take it their legislatures at the state level and institute CHANGE to prevent it from happening again.

    http://media2.620wtmj.com/breakingnews/ElectionResults_2004_VoterFraudInvestigation_MPD-SIU-A2474926.pdf

  195. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Finally, the actual report. I can put this link here knowing full well that dims cain’t read. But cons will want to learn from it, so they can take it their legislatures at the state level and institute CHANGE to prevent it from happening again.

    http://media2.620wtmj.com/breakingnews/ElectionResults_2004_VoterFraudInvestigation_MPD-SIU-A2474926.pdf

  196. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Hey WEBLOG EDITORS!!!!!

    How about an ACORN thread?

    I double dare ya!

  197. Heckler
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    This bears repeating.(maybe some Libs will comprehend it)

    “The right to vote is the most fundamental of all political freedoms. But it isn’t simply the right to vote that protects our democracy; it is the right to vote in fair elections, untainted by election fraud. Make no mistake. The dilution of one’s lawful vote through the unlawful casting of ballots is a dilution of the most fundamental of our political freedoms.”

  198. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Ok, I relent, maybe the janitor will get some time.

  199. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    CANNOT BE PUBLISHED IN THE USofAcorn.
    Now exclusively from the Canadian Free PRESS:

    ACORN should be Obama’s undoing
    By Michael Gaynor Thursday, October 9, 2008

    We will never know exactly how many fraudulent votes ACORN will be responsible for in the upcoming presidential election, but If the whole truth about ACORN and its long and intimate relationship with rookie United States Senator and 2008 Democrat presidential nominee Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. becomes fully and generally known, on Election Night 2008 Obama and his ACORNites will moan.

    Very shortly after my article entitled “Blame Obama’s ACORN for the Financial Crisis” was posted, I received an email invitation to appear on “Your World With Neil Cavuto” (FoxNews being a channel that seeks to be fair and balanced instead of to support Obama, either overtly or covertly).

    A Fox producer whom I did not know emailed me, “Hi Mike – I saw your column ‘Blame ACORN for Financial Crisis’ – would be interested in having you on our show today during the 4pm est hour on this topic. Would you be available? Let me know! Thanks!”

    Be assured that it was the substance of the article that attracted interest. Yes, I had been invited to appear (and appeared) as a guest on Neil Cavuto’s show once, because an article of mine protesting eBay auctioning consecrated Communion wafers had been noticed, but that was years ago.

    The surprise (to most, but not all) House defeat of the proposed rescue or bailout plan kept Mr. Cavuto focused on the current politics of the crisis instead of its origin and the ACORN/Obama relationship, but count on Fox News to focus on them after the revised plan is approved.

    Email reaction to my article was uniformily positive. (The Obama supporters who send vile email either weren’t paying attention or wisely opted not to give me ammunition.)

    Example: A contract specialist with the United States Army Medical Materials Center in Germany emailed to thank me for posting the article and to tell me that he had forwarded a copy to Rush Limbaugh because Rush was saying “the exact same thing.”

    THAT is really bad news for Obama and ACORN!

    I posted a follow up article entitled “Beware Obama, ‘The Senator from ACORN.”

    A pleased New Yorker emailed: “This is great, if only the truth could get out there! Americans need to understand it was not Bush, McCain or the Republican’s that caused this mess. It is time for the Democracts to finally be held responsible for what they have done. We need McCain and Palin to read a list of these facts off during the debates!!!!!”

    That lady is right!

    A Missourian queried:

    “Why is it that most of the USA does NOT know the facts about ACORN? Also,why are you NOT on FoxNews having the opportunity to tell the truth to America?

    “I, for one, would sure like to see this happen.”

    I have faith that FoxNews will publicize those facts…and I’d like to see Stanley Kurtz, a senior fellow with the Ethics and Public Policy Center and a contributing editor to National Review Online, who had researched and written on this matter, sharing the fruits of his labor on every news program.

    A deeply concerned American working in Canada emailed:

    “Excellent piece in Web commentary. There is also a good history of the current mortgage crisis in the Pittsburgh Tribune – Review (Sept. 29) – ‘Roots of Rotten Mortgages’.

    “I’m sorry to say that these facts need to be reiterated on a DAILY basis. Otherwise, the fox, who has been killing the chickens will get elected as king of the coop.

    “The math is relatively simple:

    “Democratic Party + Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac x Obama + ACORN = financial meltdown

    “Thanks for your thoughts and expertise… YOU MUST KEEP SHARING THEM UNTIL ELECTION DAY. Work the media if you can… radio… tv!”

    He added, very thoughtfully: “I would be interested to see the number of foreclosures in those areas where ACORN has been active.”

    So would I!

    “Marianne” emailed: “Thank you Mr. Gaynor. I found this very very enlightening. Reading this, I believe I have made up my mind. I have been against Obama from the very beginning. I thank you again very much for this information!!!”

    There are plenty of great reasons to be against Obama and his Far Left extremist ACORN allies!

    At the 2008 Republican National Convention, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani made a very basic point: “There is good change and there is bad change.”

    Likewise, there are good community organizers and bad community organizers.

    ACORN’s history needs to be known, not kept a mystery.

    Stephanie Block, in “Dissing the Organizer: Obama, ACORN and Catholic Action” (September 24, 2008):

    ‘Last year, The Seattle Times reported the biggest voter-registration fraud scheme in Washington history. Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged for filling out and submitting more than 1,800 fictitious voter-registration cards during a 2006 registration drive in King and Pierce counties.’ (Keith Ervin, ‘Three plead guilty in fake voter scheme,’ 10-30-2007)
    This year, an ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced for to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.

    “Those are convictions from the past year. There are also examples of indictments this year, such as the four ACORN employees in Kansas City charged with identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election and the Reynoldsburg fellow indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties. And there are current investigations into ACORN for voter fraud all over the map: the Milwaukee ACORN for 200 to 300 fraudulent voter registration cards; the Cleveland ACORN for its submission of 75,000 voter registrations, many of which are fraudulent; the New Mexico ACORN, which claims to have taken 72,000 new voter registrations in the state since January, is under suspicion for 1,100 possibly fraudulent voter registration cards turned in to the Bernalillo County clerk’s office recently.

    “These are recent complaints, but ACORN’s history is riddled with criminal activity. During the last major election, the Wall Street Journal did a story about ACORN. Four ACORN workers had been indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms to the Kansas City, Missouri, election board; other ACORN workers were convicted in Wisconsin and Colorado and investigations, at the time the article was written, were under way in Ohio, Tennessee and Pennsylvania. [’The Acorn Indictments, WSJ 11-3-06].

    “The Wall Street Journal article points out some additional facts that have particular interest to us, two years later. ‘Operating in at least 38 states (as well as Canada and Mexico), ACORN pushes a highly partisan agenda, and its organizers are best understood as shock troops for the AFL-CIO and even the Democratic Party. As part of the Fannie Mae reform bill, House Democrats pushed an ‘affordable housing trust fund’ designed to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac profits to subsidize ACORN, among other groups. A version of this trust fund actually passed the Republican House and will surely be on the agenda again next year.’

    “ACORN was a tremendous force for the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), created in the late 70s to force banks to make loans to low-income borrowers. Besides fighting for passage of this act, ACORN monitored…compliance. Some analysts of the current housing crisis contend the CRA policies are in good part to blame. Representative Michele Bachmann (R-Minnesota), a member of the House Financial Services Committee, takes the analysis a step further. The ‘housing bailout’ package signed into law to rescue Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae with an unlimited credit line not only increases the federal debt but also gives millions of dollars to La Raza and the ACORN. [Elizabeth Williamson & Brody Mullins, ‘Democratic Ally Mobilizes In Housing Crunch: Acorn Leads Drive to Register Voters Likely to Back Obama; New Federal Funds,’ WSJ, 7-31-08]Elizabeth Williamson & Brody Mullins, ‘Democratic Ally Mobilizes In Housing Crunch: Acorn Leads Drive to Register Voters Likely to Back Obama; New Federal Funds,’ WSJ, 7-31-08]

    Why not vote for Obama? Obama is Far Left extremist ACORN’s guy! That’s a huge reason why!

  200. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Excellent post Heckler:

    Heckler
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink
    This bears repeating.(maybe some Libs will comprehend it)

    “The right to vote is the most fundamental of all political freedoms. But it isn’t simply the right to vote that protects our democracy; it is the right to vote in fair elections, untainted by election fraud. Make no mistake. The dilution of one’s lawful vote through the unlawful casting of ballots is a dilution of the most fundamental of our political freedoms.”

  201. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    It matters not who votes. What matters is who counts the votes.

    I go further and say that none of it matters, we vote “to feel good”.

    As long as there are electronic voting machines, there will never be a legitimate vote.

  202. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Keep up the good fight team! The Truth will eventually come out.

    The most important thing McCain/Palin fans can do NOW is to get the word out about ACORN NOW!!!

    Post and repost the TRUTH ABOUT ACORN nationwide – and do NOT stop there. International Blogs are watching.

    THIS MUST HIT THE 6PM NEWS ON ALL THREE MAJOR NETWORKS IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE ACTION!

    The Obama Press will not. The Obama flock will not. Nothing will stop the incarnation of “THE ONE”.

    REPUBLICANS: Just copy and post on one other blog today. Get the word moving.

    The Truth of a stolen election will do us no good after President Obama is in power. It will be too late then. Witness Bush. He lasted eight years!!

    Pass the word, and watch it spread.

    Listen my children and you shall hear,
    of the pre-election ride of Roach Revere.

    The ONE if by ACORN,
    And TWO if by Obama.

    I’m off on my horse to spread the word,
    Obama Is Coming!
    Obama Is Coming!
    ACORN is Coming!

    Throughout the country folk to be,
    up and to arm!

  203. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Yes you heard me correctly: PRESIDENT Obama.

    By cheat, and stealing, the liar Barack.

    Get the word moving now!

  204. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    You people are delusional. It’ll be President Obama because perception is reality. And the perception of the dumbed-down population is that Republican’s were in charge during the destruction of their life savings. Little does this dumbed-down populace know is that this was a team effort by both sides.

    I’m getting a pukey feeling with all of the teevee zombies stinking the place up.

  205. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    TREASON!
    KILL HIM!
    TRAITOR!

    Images from an upcoming McCain-Palin rally.

    (Not for the faint of heart)

    http://www.withoutsanctuary.org/main.html

  206. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    It never occurs to the Republican bloggers that their King George screwed the pooch so bad that nobody wants them anymore

  207. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Voter fraud is old news. All of us set the precedent in 2000.

    http://www.hackingdemocracy.com/

  208. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink
    TREASON!
    KILL HIM!
    TRAITOR!

    Images from an upcoming McCain-Palin rally.

    (Not for the faint of heart)

    http://www.withoutsanctuary.org/main.html
    ————————————————–

    A Vote against Obama is purely racially motivated.
    Gotcha.

  209. ANTI
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink
    TREASON!
    KILL HIM!
    TRAITOR!

    Images from an upcoming McCain-Palin rally.

    (Not for the faint of heart)

    http://www.withoutsanctuary.org/main.html
    ———

    Race baiter MonkeyHawk, you are truly a sick individual, slime. You use these images of lynchings to further your political ideology, while claiming others are racist. You are an undignified human being.

  210. ANTI
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    All the while, Monkey thinks those images are ‘funny’.

  211. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Come on ANTI it’s your candidates stirring the race hatred pot. Have you called them on it? Of course not!

  212. ANTI
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink
    Come on ANTI it’s your candidates stirring the race hatred pot. Have you called them on it? Of course not!
    ——-

    They have not. I have only seen dims bring the race card into the game. They do NOT want racism to die! It is their most powerful tool to make others feel guilt and pity. It is disgusting.

  213. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI” tries –

    “… Monkey thinks those images are ‘funny’.”

    You’re projecting again, “ANTI.”

  214. ANTI
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Images from an upcoming McCain-Palin rally.
    =======

    Yeah, projecting huh? That would be you Monkeyhawk. Bottom feeder.

  215. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    ‘US election: McCain rallies grow negative as Obama rises in the polls’
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/09/uselections2008.johnmccain4
    “The McCain campaign yesterday sought to distance itself from ugly remarks by supporters, with a spokesman emailing reporters to say the camp “does not condone the inappropriate rhetoric” – a reference to shouts of “treason,” “terrorist” and “kill him” by audience members at McCain events following mentions of Obama. The Arizona senator himself has yet to directly address the negative comments.”

  216. ANTI
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Weather Underground Victim Says Obama Should Have Known of Ayers’ Past

    John Murtagh says Barack Obama should have known better than to associate with William Ayers, whose Weather Underground group claimed responsibility for firebombing his family’s home nearly four decades ago.

    FOXNews.com

    Thursday, October 09, 2008

    A Yonkers, N.Y., councilman whose home was bombed nearly four decades ago by the Weather Underground says Barack Obama should know better than to associate with the domestic terror group’s co-founder, Bill Ayers.

    “Barack Obama constantly says, ‘I was only 8 years old when this happened.’ That’s kind of his throwaway line,” John Murtagh told FOX News Thursday morning.

    “I’m not questioning what Barack Obama was doing when he was 8 years old. I’m questioning his behavior as an adult to choose his friends, mentor and longtime personal and professional colleague.”

    Murtagh discussed the 1970 bombing as John McCain’s campaign put renewed focus on Obama’s ties to Ayers, who lives in Chicago and is an education professor at the University of Illinois.

    Murtagh, whose father was a New York Supreme Court justice when his family’s home was targeted, put out a statement on behalf of McCain’s campaign Wednesday claiming “Barack Obama’s friend tried to kill my family.”

    Obama has said his relationship with Ayers did not extend beyond serving with him on an education board in Chicago. He has condemned Ayers’ Vietnam War-era attacks, and his campaign has said Obama did not know of Ayers’ radical past when Ayers held a campaign event at his home for Obama in 1995.

    But Murtagh cast doubt on the narrative out of the Obama campaign, saying it would make the Democratic presidential candidate “the dumbest man that ever graduated from Columbia and Harvard Law School” if he didn’t initially know about Ayers’ past.

    Murtagh also alleged that Obama’s ties to Ayers probably go back earlier, since Ayers’ wife, Weather Underground radical Bernadine Dohrn, at one point worked at the same firm where Obama’s wife, Michelle, worked.

    “The Weather Underground launched an attack on our family home … looking to kill us,” Murtagh told FOX News. “I believe if the senator were to come clean and tell us the full story, we’d find out this relationship well predates the fundraiser held in the Ayers home. It goes back to the ’80s.”

    McCain released a Web video Thursday criticizing Obama for his relationship with Ayers.

    Obama told ABC News Wednesday that McCain’s campaign is making these assertions simply “to score cheap political points.”

  217. sursum
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH: The Canadian Free Press is a conservative website started in 2003 to promote riech wing agendae and has been sued sucessfully for plagiarism/defamation a few times. It is a farce but a boone for like minded idiots. Get another source.

  218. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    History will show that bush was more of a catalyst to challenges to the Capitalist, Imperialist order than the Weathermen ever dreamed of.

  219. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    When mccain/palin’s mobs grab a black reporter from the msm, we’ll know they’ve gone too far!

  220. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    When mccain/palin’s mobs grab a black reporter from the msm,and lynch him, we’ll know they’ve gone too far!

  221. annie_moose
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Dow just broke through 9K currently 8960

    Why is God so angry at the stock market?

  222. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Angry @ the stock market or angry @ us?

  223. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Headline:

    PAULSON may buy stakes in bank.

    Don’t they mean us?

    No, they don’t.

    Financial Dictatorship.

  224. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    But that sh.it don’t matter none does it?

    As long as you all can keep fighting twixt Obamaites and McCainiacs things will be A-OK!

  225. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Obama also got a little personal; seizing on the fact that the McCain campaign originally indicated Tuesday he supported purchasing mortgages of strapped homeowners at a discount. But by Wednesday his proposal had changed and instead called for the government to buy the mortgages at face value even if they were worth more than the home itself.

    Eratic, out of touch, McCain!

  226. sursum
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer: At us, Look at our personal debt loads, unregulated banking practices and prostituion of the free market system, as compared to the rest of the world.

  227. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Bought 2500 in DOW index fund today, the tanking has to end somewhere! Guess it’s down so much can’t get out, may as well wade in a little deeper (until I drown!)

  228. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Glad to see Boeing an Union going back to the table, this isn’t such an opportune time to be striking!
    Maybe Obama will curtail the outsourcing of America anyway, hope so.

  229. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    So lon

  230. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Dow down another 500 pts., is God punishing America because of the Republicans?

  231. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    I’ll bet Bush is drinking again. Worst President in History has brought the Republic and the Republicans to ruin.

    Hold the election immediately and impeach the SOB.

  232. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    Make that 634 pts.

  233. ANTI
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Make that 634 pts.
    ——

    Let’s go sledding!!!

  234. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Well, what’s even worse is that expenditures from the Federal Government are increasing by about six percent per year.

    That means in about 12-14 years, the cost to run our government will be more than an entire Gross Domestic product.

  235. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Make that 678 after a little more settling!

  236. Marty Fufkin
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    If Hank, XXX, or any other gun enthusiast is around, could you perhaps advise where one could find a good deal on a new Springfield Arms 1911 .45?

    Thank you in advance,

    M. Fufkin

  237. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    This negative wealth effect is going to spread throughout the economy.

  238. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    What’s all the talk on the market from the libs?
    I didn’t think there was anything to the trickle down economics theory?

  239. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    1911’s are out there…but you’ll pay $2000.00 and up for one.

    That’s my dream handgun too!

  240. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Oh…sh.it shoulda read a bit better, a new one is a little cheaper. good luck.

  241. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    On sale for $800. here:

    http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/sapistol.html

  242. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Let’s all give a hearty welcome to the New World Order.

    Give it up! Whoop! Whoop!

    They’ll enjoy your wealth, cause you won’t.

  243. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, I meant then damned Republicrats. Didn’t mean to get all tin-foily on ya.

  244. Marty Fufkin
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, Pleefer. That is not a bad deal. I have been trying to decide between the XD & the 1911. XD’s quite cheaper.

    The local shops I have visited have the 1911’s rather high in price.

  245. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Maybe Allah’s not on our side? Wonder how the nations mental health is doing. Probably a good time to invest in pharamceuticals.

  246. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    ur welcome Marty.

    I want an old Luger as well.

    Phantom, best to invest in those private prison builders. They’re sure to be a-buildin’ them.

  247. littlejohn
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Currently buying stock. Look around, some good deals. But not for the short term, you are going to have to hang on to it for awhile.

  248. Pleefer
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    you buy up all the paper you want dude. it grows on trees.

  249. littlejohn
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    “you buy up all the paper you want dude. it grows on trees”

    Yeah, and there is plenty of money to be made by buying trees and turning them into paper, or a myriad of other products.

  250. Boxlock
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    HOW ACORN GOT ME INTO VOTE SCAM

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092008/news/politics/nuts__132771.htm

    “The major risk of fraud growing out of mass canvassing involves the possibility of ineligible voters filing absentee ballots, and thus avoiding checks at polling places,”
    CLEVELAND – “Two Ohio voters, including Domino’s pizza worker Christopher Barkley , claimed yesterday that they were hounded by the community-activist group ACORN to register to vote several times, even though they made it clear they’d already signed up.”
    “Barkley estimated he’d registered to vote “10 to 15″ times after canvassers for ACORN, whose political wing has endorsed Barack Obama, relentlessly pursued him and others.
    Claims such as his have sparked election officials to probe ACORN.”
    “I kept getting approached by folks who asked me to register,” Barkley said. “They’d ask me if I was registered. I’d say yes, and they’d ask me to do it [register] again.
    “You can tell them you’re registered as many times as you want – they do not care,” said Lateala Goins, 21, who was subpoenaed.
    “They will follow you to the buses, they will follow you home, it does not matter,” she told The Post.
    A third subpoenaed voter, Freddie Johnson, 19, filled out registration cards 72 times over 18 months, officials said.

    These ACORN frauds should be caught and hung as traitors. The are destroying the integrity of the vote. We are turning into another third world country as a result of these DimLib Obama supporters.
    Shameful!

  251. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Smart money check. What’s everyone doing with their 401k investments since the downturn. Anybody cash out since the bail out proposal?
    I heard that the majority of the stock activity is taking place in the last 30 min. or so as mutual funds etc. have to raise money for redemptions.
    I’ve been holding, watching the blood pump out of the punctured artery.

  252. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Bush and the S.C. destroyed any remaining integrity the election process may have once held.

  253. Posted October 9, 2008 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    I guess the market plungers are still not sure they have got Obama elected yet, so they had to drop it another big chunk today. To bad we are going to get a President who could never have been elected in a fair election, installed in office by massive fraud and manipulation of the financial markets.

  254. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Somebody call the waaaambulance! The Republican whiners are starting an epidemic!

  255. Posted October 9, 2008 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    “I guess the market plungers are still not sure they have got Obama elected yet, so they had to drop it another big chunk today. ”

    Good catch there Chris. You better get on board and vote for Obama or he is gonna make the Earth stop turning! Or maybe he’ll make beans turn into peas or turn off gravity!

  256. Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    I see you have your tin-foil hat on today Chris.

  257. Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    I forgot, you people are democrats which means any way you can do it is alright with you. I guess i’d rather lose an election than win with support from terrorists and those who would destroy our Country just to keep from losing yet again.

  258. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Latest Gallup Poll numbers today:

    Obama 52% McCain 41%

    First time Obama’s gone into double digits.

  259. Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Hey Chris – maybe you shouldbe asking yourself why the country is rejecting your Party.

  260. Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 4:47 pm | Permalink
    Somebody call the waaaambulance! The Republican whiners are starting an epidemic!

    - – - – – - – - – - – - – - – - — – - – - – - – — – - – - – — – -

    Sorry dude, the waaaambulances are all still out picking up you people who are still crying over Florida 2000

  261. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Latest Gallup Poll numbers today:

    Obama 52% McCain 41%

    First time Obama’s gone into double digits.

    http://www.huliq.com/1/70313/gallup-poll-obama-mccain-today-52-41

  262. Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Chris?

    He MIGHT turn off the Sun you know. I’m just saying.

    Now me? I don’t want to eat refried peas while I float around in the dark. So ya better cut it out!

    Seriously, if we are going to argue from the fringes?

    It is the Republicans and other forces of greed made this awful mess. THEY know they are on their way out. Maybe they are engaging in some wide scale scorched Earth so that one week after the election they can point at the Democrats and say, “SEE! It’s THEIR fault. Democrats did this!”

  263. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Speaking of fraud, it’ll be good if Obama goes into election night with a clear win predicted, so if they pull the diebold thing again, there will be a rebellion.

  264. sursum
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    The International Monetary Fund (really an American control apparatus) which oversees 120(?) nations and their economies said to-day that the top 4 banking sytems in the world are: 1)Canada, 2)Luxembourg, 3)Sweden, 4)Australia. The UK comes in at 44th and the US in at 40th. Jeez, maybe all those ubercapitalists on Wall St. or the “City” in London aren’t that smart after all.

  265. Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    “The next and final presidential debate will be held Wednesday, Oct. 15 at Hofstra University in New York”

    Appropriate – extended tax deadline.

  266. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Re: the last debate -Will John McCain accuse Obama to his face of being a Muslim terrorist or will John McCain be a coward? We already know the answer.

  267. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    FOX News’ McCain/Palin Infomercial Pimps Palin As “One Of The Foremost Experts” On Energy
    http://www.newshounds.us/2008/10/09/fox_news_mccainpalin_infomercial_pimps_palin_as_one_of_the_foremost_experts_on_energy.php
    “Besides the fact that there is no agreement to build the pipeline and it’s not a $40 billion project, Palin’s work on the pipeline would hardly make her “one of the foremost experts” on energy in the country.”

    McCain Touts ‘Energy Expert’ Palin’s Credentials By Falsely Claiming She Delivered A Gas Pipeline
    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/mccain-palin-pipeline/
    “But Palin has asked Alaskans to pray for the pipeline to be built, which is perhaps what the McCain-Palin campaign website means when it says that “work has begun on a $40 billion natural gas pipeline.”

    Youtubes of McCain and Palin on Hannity’s show (watch their expressions) and Palin’s “God’s will” re pipeline (LOL! ) at ThinkProgress link

  268. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    ‘RNC Uses Ayers in New Ads’
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/10/rnc_uses_ayers_in_new_ads.html

  269. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Witchcraft and sorcery have prevented her from sealing the deal.

  270. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Does that make Sebelius an Ag. expert, and an Aerospace expert, along of course being an Insurance Expert?
    Maybe Obama will give her an appointment, probably have to do with her insurance expertise.

  271. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    I bet she had the Evil Eye removed from her after she slept with Todd’s partner.

  272. okobserver
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos how many $40 billion deals have you worked out?

  273. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Is Trig a result of her extramarital affair?

  274. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos how many $40 billion deals have you worked out?

    Mccain must have overlooked that expertise, she’s also a financial expert!

  275. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    In August 2008, Palin signed a bill authorizing the State of Alaska to award TransCanada Pipelines, the sole bidder to meet the state’s requirements, a license to build and operate a pipeline to transport natural gas from the North Slope to the Continental United States through Canada.[110] The governor also pledged $500 million in seed money to support the project.[111] It is estimated that the project will cost $26 billion.[110] Newsweek described the project as “the principal achievement of Sarah Palin’s term as Alaska’s governor,”[112] but it faces legal challenges from Canadian First Nations (aboriginal peoples).[112]

    So Palin and her Church have been trying to use Christian voodoo on Canada’s native population.

  276. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    But obviously not, since she had to hire a City Mgr. (after promising she wouldn’t need one “it’s not rocket science”), to run a city budget for a population of 5000.

  277. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    “run a city budget for a population of 5000.”

    hehehe. Isnt that about the size of Russell?

    So.. the mayor of Russell is qualified to be VP or, heaven forbid, P?

    heheheh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  278. okobserver
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    mxyzptlk, I canceled my subscription to Newsweek this week just because of an unfounded story they ran as ‘news’ just as they did the sloppy assertion you just printed. I want real journalism. Give it on both sides. State the facts. Don’t editorialize and call it news. I bet I’m not the only subscriber they have lost

  279. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Here’s the last time a CONservative was actually funny –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4

  280. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Okay, CONs, ‘fess up –

    Which one of you posted this?

    “Regular?”

    “okobserver?”

    “outlander?”

    “MaxGrobnik?”

    “Nathaniel”

    “GMC70?”

    It’s gotta be one of you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3hg7XY7SU

  281. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    You are absolutely correct ok. Now when are YOU going to follow your own advice? However, to rebut, Palin’s congregation did PRAY to overcome obstacles in getting the pipeline online. I call it Christian voodoo. I’ll bet the Native People’s kung fu is stronger.

  282. Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    How’s McCain’s attempt to woo those who supported Senator Clinton going?

    I mean aside from that one rich lady with the funny name.

    Among the dozen or so friends and family I knew who were for Senator Clinton, all but one are now on board not so much for Obama but against McCain.

    The last to make the jump was my own mother. She was not at all happy with Obama but is seriously pissed off that serious issues are being ignored for this “who did Obama know years ago?” crap.

    WORSE news for McCain? Out at the rallies, they are asking for MORE of this stuff. McCain is happy to serve it to them.

    He’ll have a reasonably happy base. But everyone else is going away from him. In my entire life of observing politics, I have never seen a candidate behave so….crazy.

  283. lindainks55
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    The vitrol is coming from the man who says he can work across the aisle, get things done by being non partisan, the MAVERICK. He is whipping up quite a frenzy of hate.

  284. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Just who is this man Bill Ayers? The friend who held Barack Obama’s coming out party at his home?

    In June 1969, the Weatherman took control of the SDS at its national convention, where Ayers was elected Education Secretary.[5] Later in 1969, Ayers participated in planting a bomb at a statue dedicated to riot police casualties….

    Ayers was not facing criminal charges at the time, but the federal government later filed charges against him.[2]Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days.

    FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare.

    At a 1969 “War Council” in Flint, Michigan, Weatherman leader Bernardine Dohrn (currently a law professor at Northwestern University and a Board member of the ACLU) praised the serial murderer Charles Manson and his accomplices: “Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach. Wild.” She then proclaimed that the time had come to launch a war against “Amerikkka” (Weatherman always spelled “America” this way, to convey the group’s belief that the nation was ineradicably racist to its core). Toward this end, Dohrn advocated the formation of an even more radical “Weather Underground” cult to carry out covert terrorist activities rather than public acts of protest. By early 1970, her wish would be realized.
    In March 1970 the organization issued a “Declaration of a State of War” against the United States government, using for the first time its new name, the “Weather Underground Organization” (WUO), adopting fake identities, and pledging to pursue covert activities only.

    Shortly after that Declaration, three members of the Weather Underground accidentally killed themselves in a Manhattan townhouse while attempting to build a powerful bomb they had intended to plant at a social dance in Fort Dix, New Jersey — an event that was to be attended by U.S. Army soldiers. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plot been successfully executed.

    The Weather Underground went on to claim credit for some 25 bombings over the next several years, detonating explosives at the rebuilt Haymarket statue, a bathroom at the Pentagon, the Capitol barber shop, the New York City police headquarters, and a variety of other targets.
    In the wake of President Jimmy Carter’s amnesty for draft dodgers, members of the group began to emerge from hiding. Many were never prosecuted; others had their convictions overturned. Some, like Rudd, Dohrn, and Ayers, claimed places for themselves in academia, while others attempted to return to the mainstream.

    In 1985, former Weather Underground members Susan Rosenberg (who also was implicated in the Nyack robbery) and Linda Evans were apprehended while transporting 740 pounds of explosives which they both acknowledged were slated for use in additional bombings. Rosenberg was sentenced to 58 years in prison, Evans 40; President Bill Clinton pardoned both women in January 2001

  285. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Now lets hear from one of those who survived Bill Ayers terrorist attack. The attack was intended to kill a judge and his entire family:

    John M. Murtagh, a practicing attorney and member of the city council in Yonkers, New York, has released a statement today in which he says that when he was 9 years old, his home was firebombed by the Weathermen, the domestic terrorist group Barack Obama-associate Bill Ayers belonged to.

    The City Journal ran a story on this attack several months ago where Murtagh tells what happened during this firebombing, and what life was like for this boy afterward:

    Early on the morning of February 21, as my family slept, three gasoline-filled firebombs exploded at our home on the northern tip of Manhattan, two at the front door and the third tucked neatly under the gas tank of the family car. (Today, of course, we’d call that a car bomb.) A neighbor heard the first two blasts and, with the remains of a snowman I had built a few days earlier, managed to douse the flames beneath the car. That was an act whose courage I fully appreciated only as an adult, an act that doubtless saved multiple lives that night.

    I still recall, as though it were a dream, thinking that someone was lifting and dropping my bed as the explosions jolted me awake, and I remember my mother’s pulling me from the tangle of sheets and running to the kitchen where my father stood. Through the large windows overlooking the yard, all we could see was the bright glow of flames below. We didn’t leave our burning house for fear of who might be waiting outside. The same night, bombs were thrown at a police car in Manhattan and two military recruiting stations in Brooklyn. Sunlight, the next morning, revealed three sentences of blood-red graffiti on our sidewalk: FREE THE PANTHER 21; THE VIET CONG HAVE WON; KILL THE PIGS.

    For the next 18 months, I went to school in an unmarked police car.

  286. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    This is the statement released by Murtagh 8 Oct:

    ARLINGTON, Va., October 8 /Standard Newswire/ — Today, John M. Murtagh made the following statement on Barack Obama’s relationship with William Ayers:

    “When I was 9 years-old the Weather Underground, the terrorist group founded by Barack Obama’s friend William Ayers, firebombed my house. Barack Obama has dismissed concerns about his relationship with Ayers by noting that he was only a child when Ayers was planting bombs at the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol. But Ayers has never apologized for his crimes, he has reveled in them, expressing regret only for the fact that he didn’t do more.

    “While Barack Obama once downplayed his relationship with Ayers, today his campaign took that deceit one step further. Barack Obama now denies he was even aware of his friend’s violent past when, in 1995, Ayers hosted a party launching Obama’s political career. Given Ayers’ celebrity status among the left, it’s difficult to believe. The question remains: what did Obama know, and when did he know it? When did Obama learn the truth about his friend? Barack Obama helped Ayers promote his book in 1997, served on charitable boards with him through 2002, and regularly exchanged emails and phone calls with him through 2005. At what point did Barack Obama discover that his friend was an unrepentant terrorist? And if he is so repulsed by the acts of terror committed by William Ayers, why did the relationship continue? Any honest accounting by Barack Obama will necessarily cast further doubt on his judgment and his fitness to serve as commander in chief.

    “Barack Obama may have been a child when William Ayers was plotting attacks against U.S. targets — but I was one of those targets. Barack Obama’s friend tried to kill my family.”

    In February 1970 John Murtagh’s father was a New York State Supreme Court justice presiding over the trial of the so-called “Panther 21,” members of the Black Panther Party indicted in a plot to bomb New York landmarks and department stores. Early on the morning of February 21, three gasoline-filled firebombs exploded at their home on the northern tip of Manhattan, two at the front door and the third tucked neatly under the gas tank of the family car. The same night, bombs were thrown at a police car in Manhattan and two military recruiting stations in Brooklyn. A few weeks after the attack, the New York contingent of the Weathermen blew themselves up making more bombs in a Greenwich Village townhouse. In late November that year, a letter to the Associated Press signed by Bernardine Dohrn, Ayers’s wife, promised more bombings.

  287. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Another Weather Underground Victim Speaks Out

    “Would You Like To Meet The Man The Weather Underground, led by Barack Obama’s friend Paralyzed?” — a terrible story of “sudden impact” [see photo below] that occurred during the “Days of Rage” in Chicago in the midst of protests against the national Democratic convention in 1972. The young attorney was left paralyzed for life, and the Weather Underground member was put on trial for attempted murder but, due to poor prosecutorial efforts and a stunningly effective defense, the radical was acquitted by a Chicago jury.
    When the young attorney, now the Honorable Richard Elroy [photograph left: at age 72], was paralyzed by the Weather Underground, Bill Ayer’s wife and Barack Obama’s friend, Bernardine Dohrn, gleefully led her followers in her rendition of Bob Dylan’s Lay Lady Lay and sang Lay Elrod Lay. But then again what could you expect from a woman who said Charlie Manson was her hero?

    the radical antiwar group Weatherman unleashed mayhem on the streets of Chicago. Richard Elrod, an ambitious lawyer, worked for the city to stop the chaos. As the Days of Rage climaxed, the two men had a violent encounter that forever altered their lives-and produced an indelible image that reverberates still.
    The man, 72 now, lifts the photograph with a grip light as a soft pinch and draws it toward his eyes like a jeweler holding up an exquisite but slightly flawed stone. He is natty in a gray pinstriped suit with a pink pocket square and a pale pink tie. His crutches lie on the floor just behind his immaculately ordered desk. Through the window of his 25th-floor judge’s chamber a gray sky pulls a cheerless curtain across the late afternoon.
    He is there, in the photo, sprawled on the ground, an arm flung over his head, mouth open, paralyzed on a downtown Chicago sidewalk. A step or two away, in a manner equally suggestive of violence, his adversary lies torso-twisted into the entrance of a doorway, hovered over by three men, one bearing a club. There is something intimate about the image, as if the two men were victims of the same assailant rather than ideological enemies whose bodies-and fates-had just collided. Only later would they realize how much that was true.”
    In the photo above, you are looking at Judge Elrod on the left as a young man, on his back on the ground, with a broken neck. The piece of crap Flanagan is on the ground to the right. He would later be charged with attempted murder.

  288. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    On June 9th 1970, the scum ball terrorists in the Weather Underground bombed New York City Police Headquarters. Detective Paul Ragonese was injured in the attack. Detective Ragonese cannot understand why a person who wants to be the President of the United States would want to associate himself with a terrorist like Bill Ayers rather than condemn him.
    Interviewed by Fox, since he probably wouldn’t have a chance in hell to be interviewed on CNN or MSNBC, Detective Ragonese had this food for thought to offer regarding Barack Obama and his relationship with the terrorist Bill Ayers:

    “If that’s the standard for New York city cops, that you can’t be associating with known criminals, that should be the minimum standard, I believe, for the president of the United States.”

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/20/would-you-like-to-meet-the-man-the-weather-underground-paralyzed/

  289. Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Palin, Liar

    from The New York Times

    Ms. Palin has denied that anyone told Mr. Monegan to dismiss Mr. Wooten, or that the commissioner’s ouster had anything to do with the trooper. But an examination of the case, based on interviews with Mr. Monegan and several top aides, indicates that, to a far greater degree than was previously known, the governor, her husband and her administration pressed the commissioner and his staff to get Mr. Wooten off the force, though without directly ordering it.

    In all, the commissioner and his aides were contacted about Mr. Wooten three dozen times over 19 months by the governor, her husband and seven administration officials, interviews and documents show.

  290. Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    “When I was 9 years-old the Weather Underground, the terrorist group founded by Barack Obama’s friend William Ayers, firebombed my house.”

    REALLY! Because Obama was 8 years-old then . . .

    This is more desperation from the party that the American people have rejected as the miserable failures that you are.

  291. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Barack Obama helped Ayers promote his book in 1997, served on charitable boards with him through 2002, and regularly exchanged emails and phone calls with him through 2005. The book,
    Fugitive Days is a memoir written by former radical activist Bill Ayers. Ayers chronicles his childhood, his radicalization, his days as a leader of the Weather Underground, and his days on the run from the Federal Government.

    How did Obama help promote the book – which describes his terrorist activities, without reading it?

    How can he claim to “not know” about Ayers anti-American, cold-blooded killing spree?

  292. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    More associates and friends of Barack Obama:
    In the aftermath of the U.S. government takeover, attention has focused on three Democrats with close ties to Obama who served as Fannie Mae executives: Franklin Raines, former Clinton administration budget director; James Johnson, former aide to Democratic Vice President Walter Mondale; and Jamie Gorelick, former Clinton administration deputy attorney general.
    All three Obama-related executives earned millions in compensation from Fannie Mae.
    Johnson earned $21 million in just his last year serving as Fannie Mae CEO from 1991 to 1998; Raines earned $90 million in his five years as Fannie Mae CEO, from 1999 to 2004; and Gorelick earned an estimated $26 million serving as vice chair of Fannie Mae from 1998 to 2003, according to author David Frum, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.
    All three have been involved in mortgage-related financial scandals.

    According to the Associated Press, Raines and several other Fannie Mae top executives were ordered in a civil lawsuit to pay nearly $31.4 million for manipulating Fannie Mae earnings over a period of six years to trigger their massive bonuses.
    Raines was also forced in the settlement to give up Fannie Mae stock options valued at $15.6 million.
    Last year, the Securities and Exchange Commission alleged Freddie Mac had engaged in accounting fraud from 2000 to 2002, imposing a $50 million fine on the company and on four executives fines for amounts ranging from $65,000 to $250,000.
    Raines currently advises Obama on housing policy.
    Johnson was appointed to head Obama’s vice presidential selection committee, until a controversy concerning an alleged $7 millions in questionable real estate loans he received on favorable terms from failed sub-prime mortgage lender Countrywide Financial surfaced

  293. Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    Wow, Roach.

    You totally got nothing. But keep running with that story, PLEASE.

    Nothing turns off the undecideds like a patently ridiculous “guilt by association” charge.

  294. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    BARACK OBAMA’s Pastor ANTI-AMERICAN Rev Jeremiah Wright

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQWuQVE6sw

  295. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    IN summary, Barack Obama has an established pattern of close association and friendship with anti-American people, as well as those guilty of causing the Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac millionaires who helped lead America to financial ruin.

    Barack now denies association with the terrorist Ayers.

    Barack has QUIT his life long church and ended his affiliation with his pastor Wright. (and why? If he believes WRight is wrongly accused?)

    Barack currently employees the very rich businessmen from the home loan failures. He will deny knowing them too?

    There is too much here folks for anyone with a drop of intelligence to deny.

    Barack Obama may appoint ANY of the above to hold offices in the Federal Government.

    Think about that.

  296. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    Wow, Roach.

    You totally got nothing. But keep running with that story, PLEASE.

    Nothing turns off the undecideds like a patently ridiculous “guilt by association” charge.
    ————————————-
    It’s not guilt by association, it’s guild by ideology.

    Obama’s ideology ties directly to those who have caused chaos and strife, like Saul Alisnky, McKnight, Ayers and others.

    We are just showing America just how far left and radical Barack Obama really is.

  297. Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    “When I was 9 years-old the Weather Underground, the terrorist group founded by Barack Obama’s friend William Ayers, firebombed my house.”

    REALLY! Because Obama was 8 years-old then . . .

    This is more desperation from the party that the American people have rejected as the miserable failures that you are.

    Even worse: the Weather Underground was never shown to have done that (no one was ever charged).

    I can smell the flop-sweat from Arizona.

    John: You might keep 2010 in mind.

  298. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Illegal Obama donors: Middle Eastern Arabs
    Gazan brothers’ illicit contributions listed in government campaign filings

    Posted: August 04, 2008
    11:17 am Eastern
    By Aaron Klein
    © 2008 WorldNetDaily

    JERUSALEM – Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign.

    Donations of this nature would violate election laws, including prohibitions on receiving contributions from foreigners and guidelines against accepting more than $2,300 from one individual during a single election, Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission, told WND in response to a query.

    The contributions also raise numerous questions about the Obama campaign’s lax online donation form, which apparently allows for the possibility of foreign contributions.

  299. Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    How’s that working out for ya, Regular?

    Oooh, ouch.

    Not so good, it looks like:

    • Gallup: Obama 52%, McCain 41%, with a ±2% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday. At 11 points, this is Obama’s widest lead in the Gallup poll for this whole campaign so far.

    • Rasmussen: Obama 50%, McCain 45%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 51%-45% Obama lead yesterday.

    • Hotline/Diageo: Obama 47%, McCain 41%, with a ±3.3% margin of error, compared to a 45%-44% Obama lead yesterday.

    • Research 2000: Obama 51%, McCain 41%, with a ±3% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.

    • Zogby: Obama 48%, McCain 44%, with a ±2.9% margin of error, compared to a 47%-45% Obama lead yesterday.

  300. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    I wonder, with Obama’s association with terrorists (both domestic and foreign campaign contributors), his anti-American preacher, his convicted rich friends from Fanny Mae, his travels to foreign countries then under a US Travel ban, his not having a birth certificate, and his association with muslim fundamentalists –

    will Obama be eligible for a Top Secret Clearance?

    If he was applying as a military member or government employee: NOT LIKELY.

  301. DavidB
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    So, you guys are moving to Canada in January?

  302. Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Well, back to what none of the CONs on this thread seem to have . . . a real life . . .

  303. DavidB
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    Using ACORN funds, Obama signs deal to take control of the fleet of Clinton Black Helicopters.

    Hey! This tin-foil hat conspiracy stuff is fun. TRY IT!

  304. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    The preelection polling in the 2004 campaign was not without controversies, including extensive news coverage of different methodological issues, especially the omission of cell phones in standard samples and the differences in methods for estimating “likely voters.” The Gallup Organization came under direct attack from the MoveOn.org political action committee, which placed a full-page ad in the New York Times on Tuesday, September 28, accusing it, among other things, of “refusing to fix a longstanding problem with their likely voter methodology.”2 Overall, the pollsters fared somewhat better in the Pew Research Center’s 2004 postelection poll measurement of popular perceptions of their performance during the campaign in comparison to their performance in 2000; 45 percent of the respondents gave them a grade of A or B in this election, compared to 33 percent who did so the last time.3

    The number of preelection polls in the 2004 campaign remained approximately the same as that in 2000, but the mix of polls was different, as news organizations and polling firms planned for a close election and altered their mix of study designs. Estimating the number of polls conducted in any given year is difficult when taking into account the range of sources in which results can be published, the kinds of samples employed (national, state, or local), and other coding issues. Kennedy and Traugott (2004) have developed a relatively standardized approach to producing such an estimate that relies upon a search of the Roper Center’s iPOLL database for occurrences of the standard “trial heat” question that asks: “If the election were held today. . . .”4 Data are presented in figure 1 that show the distribution of the results of such a search in the presidential election years from 1972 to 2004, covering the period from Labor Day to Election Day.

  305. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Why even make stupid statements about moving to Canada or “abroad” if a certain candidate wins?

    That’s something liberals promise to do.

    And never do.

  306. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:06 pm | Permalink
    Well, back to what none of the CONs on this thread seem to have . . . a real life . . .

    Well if it isn’t the old cartoon character
    mxyzptlk (I mean) CaptAmerica!

  307. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    There’s so much emphasis on the supposed William Ayers connection it must mean that’s all John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) thinks he’s got anymore.

    Is the Republic Party polling only “The Base” to justify pulling such issues as Ayers out of their collective asses?

    Because it sure isn’t playing in, of all places, small town Kansas. I stopped in for a beer at a local watering hole, here in the middle of Republic Party monarchy, and farmers and Nam vets are volunteering outrage about McCoot’s candidacy.

    They wanted so much to vote for him, but then he announces he’ll cut Medicare and Social Security and give them a rebate to buy private health insurance they can’t get for any price due to “pre-existing conditions” … and then he’ll tax them for it!

    I heard a guy talk about “McClain” and “Labama” who didn’t know a lot about politics but knew enough that that nothing could convince him of voting for another Republic Party candidate.

    I’m inclined to just let the CONs rant about William Ayers because they’re chasing their tails. Most people know there were people in the 1960s who were irate about how The ‘Nam was an American disaster. And most of those people also know it was forty years ago.

    They also know their 401(k)s and their Medicare and Social Security benefits and their homes are about all they’ve got in the here-and-now!

    I suggest we let the CONs obsess on William Ayers to their hearts’ content. (Hearts optional.)

    Even if 8-year-old Barack Hussein Obama were loading the fuse for the Weathermen’s bomb which we all remember destroyed the Capitol Building and the Pentagon in 1968, it doesn’t matter in the here-and-now.

    What matters is the here-and-now.

    And McCodger doesn’t want to talk about that, does he?

  308. RoaCH
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Well I hate to shoot and scoot, but I gotta a lot of posting to do tonight! Team republican keep up the good work – and make sure you post the word!

    Father, must I go the work?
    No, my lucky son
    We’re living now on Easy Street
    On dough from Washington.
    We’ve left it up to Uncle Sam
    So don’t get exercised
    Nobody has to give a damn
    We’ve all been subsidized.
    But if Sam treats us all so well
    And feeds us milk and honey
    Please, daddy, tell me what the hell
    He’s going to use for money?
    Don’t worry, Bub, there’s not a hitch
    In this here noble plan
    He simply soaks the filthy rich
    And helps the common man.
    But, father, won’t there come a time
    When they run out of cash
    And we have left them not a dime,
    When things will go to smash?
    My faith is shrinking in you son
    You nosey little brat;
    You do too damn much thinking, son,
    To be a Democrat.

  309. DavidB
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    God, the poor guy is way out there off the deep end. So McCain altered his plan and wants us to buy out the devalued mortgages at full face value now?

    We should buy $120,000 houses for $240,000?

  310. Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Old Town Celebration on Friday

    Date: October 9, 2008
    Contact: Communications Team
    Phone: (316) 268-4351

    The Old Town celebration is one day away. City of Wichita officials, the Old Town Association and Old Town restaurants will honor Old Town’s designation as one of 10 “Great Neighborhoods in America” with a communitywide celebration from 4:30 to 6:30 p.m. on Friday in Old Town Square.

    The “Great Neighborhoods in America” celebration will feature:

    * Something Xtra, a local band;
    * An Old Town video, produced by City7, airing in the Warren Theatre marquee;
    * Guest speakers including Wichita Mayor Carl Brewer, former Mayor Bob Knight and Old Town developers Dave Burk and Rich Vliet;
    * And “A Taste of Old Town,” a collection of Old Town restaurants providing free appetizers.

    Participating restaurants include Uptown Bistro, Baxter’s Sweet Rolls, Caffe Moderne, Fuzion, Heroes Sports Bar & Grill, Larkspur Restaurant & Grill, Oscar’s of Old Town Warren Theatre, Pumphouse and Whiskey Creek Steakhouse. The City of Wichita will provide water.

    Commemorative Old Town T-shirts may be purchased at the event. The American Planning Association (APA) announced on Wednesday Old Town’s designation as one of 10 neighborhoods to claim the prestigious Great Places honor in 2008.

    For more information about the history of Old Town and the Great Neighborhoods 10 honorees, please visit http://www.planning.org/greatplaces or view these related news releases:

    * Old Town History News Release
    * Old Town American Planning Association News Release
    * Old Town Great Places American Planning Association News Release

    Great Places exemplify exceptional character and highlight the role planning plays in creating communities of lasting value. APA praised Old Town because of Wichita’s bold vision, astute and innovative planning and collaborative partnerships that transformed what was an abandoned warehouse and light industrial district into a successful mixed-use quarter.

  311. DavidB
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    “Even if 8-year-old Barack Hussein Obama were loading the fuse for the Weathermen’s bomb ” I think I will object to that one!

    But I was intimately involved in those days in doing what I could to get the US out of the Vietnamese civil war. Having this all dredged up forty years later is interesting, but obviously not productive for McCain.

    Is this personal blow-back from his painful experiences in Vietnam? Is McCain wanting re-fight the Vietnam War?

    It’s ugly to watch.

  312. Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Uh yeah, “Roach”?

    The only person I know that your little poem describes is “Regular”. He would be on your side.

  313. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    God bless Barack Hussein Obama. God bless the Democrats who will lead us out of the financial cesspool made by the Republicans. God help John McCain that his disease not progress any further and God help Sarah Palin get the proper psychiatric help and medication that she needs.

    You betcha!

  314. Predestined
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    Well, gee, if we’re into dishing dirt, I can play too.

    John McCain’s Rage is a National Security Concern
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g

  315. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    We don’t need a President who is suffering from UNTREATED post-traumatic stress disorder and who is on chronic pain medication. McCain is erratic, out of touch, and suffers from regular bouts of irrational rage. John McCain is a national security nightmare waiting to happen.

  316. DavidB
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    About that lawyer injured in Chicago,…
    “The jury of eight men and four women chose as its foreman Charles Schoenberg, a 63-year-old Republican banker. They deliberated a mere five hours before returning their verdict at 9 p.m. on August 20th: not guilty on all counts.”

  317. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Predestined posted October 9, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    John McCain’s Rage is a National Security Concern
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g
    ————

    That’s scary. What would happen during a long-term crisis, when he’s tired?

    Also,
    Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

  318. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    There is no such thing as Global Warming caused by Man.

    All the computer models have grossly underestimated the largest Greenhouse Gas on the Planet – WATER VAPOUR!

    The Original Cosmos is AFU!

  319. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    “CosmosNewandImproved” –

    Welcome to this forum!

    We’re always eager to hear and discuss the views of newcomers! And we have no reason whatsoever to think you might be one of the CONs who’ve lost all credibility due to their established wing-nuttiness.

    I’m confident you’re a new and unsullied voice to WE Blog and I’ve always thought the more the merrier.

    You’ll be a breath of fresh air to these discussion since it’s obvious from your nym you have no experience posting to these discussions.

  320. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:12 pm
    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1009/#comment-443246

    Regular posted October 9, 2008 at 11:40 am

    That’s the second time cosmos has posted that and both time his conclusion was wrong.
    ———

    Third time.

    And my conclusion is 100% accurate. Giuliani is NOT a credible source on anything about Obama. Giuliani just parrots lies from his friend McCain, and the RNC.

  321. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Water vapour: feedback or forcing?
    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/04/water-vapour-feedback-or-forcing/

  322. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Really, Originally,

    you must recognize that you are an old model that has been far surpassed.

    Enjoy your pasture time before your final lugnut rusts out.

  323. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Why does John McCain hate planetariums?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/phil-plait/why-does-john-mccain-hate_b_133178.html

    See also link at above,
    John McCain: literally antiscience
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/15/john-mccain-literally-antiscience/

  324. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    Dang Original one,

    Your problem is that you were programmed to copy and paste links.

    It’s too bad you were not wired for intelligent thought.

    Enjoy your pasture time, and don’t wear yourself out posting more links. I see from your history file that you have posted over 10,000 links without any thoughts or comments attached.

    The shotgun approach works for many of the idiots here, and pleases the WE Blog post counters immensley. You do know that the WE Blog post counters do not evaluate QUALITY or ACCURACY of any of the posts.

    It’s the sheer number of posts that adds up to revenue for this blog.

    So Cosmos Originally, recognize that you are now an antique. You can post repetitively and add up blog post points for the advertising revenue from your pasture. Your posts though, are simply now relegated to SCROLLOVERS.

    Get used to being made obsolete. That happens when your actions don’t keep pace with your rhetoric.

  325. Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    hoo HOO!

    Oh my, the cons are REALLY round the bend.

    I just heard a little from “The Savage Nation” With the Savage Wiener. Or maybe it was whiner.

    He says he was supposed to be in church today (Thursday?) but instead GOD told him to start the Savage Nation political party! He says they’ll be up and running and raising a ruckus in a couple years.

    I guess he forgot that the Republicans already have like 3 parties for the pissed off.

    Talk radio is getting increasingly shrill these last several days.

    BlueJay sings…

    Lovin’ every minute of it…

  326. DavidB
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    The most important election of our lifetime is around the corner, and this blog is used for childish pranks..

  327. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    ‘Exclusive: Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin on ‘Hannity & Colmes”
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,434841,00.html
    HANNITY: … Between the two of you, Senator let’s start with you, tell us what do you envision for the governor, as her role?

    MCCAIN: Well, first of all she’s probably one of the foremost experts in this nation on energy issues. … And so I think that there’s nobody more qualified to take on our mission of becoming energy independent.
    ———-

    That’s like claiming that someone who runs a large cattle slaughtering plant is the most qualified to be our U.S. health nutritionist.

    HANNITY: … Governor Palin you have said that you’re trying, you’re working on Senator McCain on the issue of ANWR. And you said you haven’t had success yet, but you’re still trying.

    MCCAIN: … Finally, this may sound a bit gratuitous, but at least because Senator — Governor Palin — Sarah Palin is so persuasive, I would like to come[sic] to Alaska, I haven’t been there in many years anyway, and maybe I’ll agree to go visit that area and have a look.
    ———–

    Yeah, go take a long, careful look at that “area” — all 1.5 MILLION acres.
    I suggest hiking across the ~ 100 miles during the end of caribou calving season.

    Maybe you need some time off? You have trouble remembering that the VP candidate that you selected is a Gov, not a Senator.

  328. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    David, I’ve noticed your childish pranks. I saw that as the primary use for this blog.

    Are you saying this blog serves some sort of higher purpose?

    Like what?

    This blog determines the outcome of the election. Sure!

  329. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    David, please forgive me if I’ve missed some intellectual posts that you’ve made.

    Could you possibly be capable of posting a link or two to your most impressive displays of brainpower?

  330. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    CosmosOriginally,

    You posted more links and only one line of “thought”.

    I wasn’t aware CosmosOriginally that you have ever been to the Arctic of Alaska and observed the proposed drilling site.

    WHEN were YOU there?

  331. DavidB
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    It is what we we make of it. Good night.

  332. Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    annie_moose
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:05 pm | Permalink
    Dow just broke through 9K currently 8960

    Why is God so angry at the stock market?
    ==========================================

    NOW maybe you all know what Rev. Wright was talking about???

  333. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Oh GREAT post David!

    Thanks for sharing that. That’s very much like most of the other posts from you that I’ve read.

    I can see now how you might think you could influence the election with your great words on this blog.

  334. Predestined
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Maybe ol’ John can visit the Alaskan bush. He probably thinks that’s cousins of Dubya’s.

  335. Phantom
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    Oh, no, looks like we may have to scratch energy expert too.Palin wrongly suggests Congress bans oil exports By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press Writer
    40 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, touted by GOP presidential candidate John McCain as his expert on energy, seemed to have problems Thursday explaining whether the government bans oil exports — especially from her state’s North Slope fields.

    ADVERTISEMENT

    A questioner at a town hall-style meeting in Wisconsin said he had heard that at least 75 percent of the oil drilled in Alaska was being sold to China and said, if true, he would like to know why.

    “No. It’s not 75 percent of our oil being exported,” Palin said, suggesting some of Alaska’s oil, in fact, may be going abroad but not that much.

    “In fact,” she added, “Congress is pretty strict on, um, export bans of oil and gas especially.”

    No Alaska oil has been exported since 2004, and little if any since 2000, according to the Energy Information Administration and the Congressional Research Service.

    And Congress has never imposed outright bans on oil exports. Congress prohibited exports of Alaska oil in 1973 when the Alaska oil pipeline was built. But that ban was lifted in 1996 when there were large volumes of Alaska oil coming down from the North Slope and U.S. demand was soft.

    The Alaska ban has never been reinstated.”

    But then who could expect her to know about Alaska.

  336. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Chas supports the views of Rev Wright. How radical.

    God Da*n Amerika, huh Chas?

  337. Predestined
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Has CosmosNewandImproved been taking lessons from Regular? Obviously “he” failed the Dale Carnegie course on How to Win Friends and Influence People.

  338. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    So OLD Cosmos, you BEEN to ANWR?

    Or are you posting links again as if you were some caribou expert?

  339. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    America is doomed.

    The Obama plan to cut taxes will cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

    It actually will cut taxes: For those who currently pay NO taxes.

    How do they do that?

    They send an additional check to NONTAX PAYING citizens for $1000.00

    Money they didn’t pay in. But a new handout from President Obama.

    How do they do that?

  340. Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 7:35 pm | Permalink
    Old Town Celebration on Friday

    Date: October 9, 2008
    Contact: Communications Team
    Phone: (316) 268-4351

    The Old Town celebration is one day away. City of Wichita officials, the Old Town Association and Old Town restaurants will honor Old Town’s designation as one of 10 “Great Neighborhoods in America” with a communitywide celebration from 4:30 to 6:30 p.m. on Friday in Old Town Square.
    ===============================================

    Better watch out, Reguliar…. This event is a GREAT example of what Community Organizers do!! ROFL!!!

    Are you going to trash these Organizers the way you do Obama??? Hmmmm????

  341. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Predestined?

    For what? Stupidity?

    You are already there!

  342. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    So Community Organizers organize picnics?

    BIG F*CKIN WOW!

  343. Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    “The Obama plan to cut taxes will cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

    It actually will cut taxes: For those who currently pay NO taxes.

    How do they do that?” [AmWay]
    =========================================

    If you had any gray matter between your ears, you would have CLEARLY and PRECISElY heard Obama say that there would be NO TAX INCREASE for 95% of the American People…

    He did NOT say he would CUT TAXES for 95% of the American People….

    Please learn basic listening skills… AND reading skills as well!!

  344. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    SIMPLE: Obama’s “tax cuts” for the poor are simply W E L F A R E payments.

    Redistribution of wealth, from those who earn money, to those who don’t.

    American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:00 pm | Permalink
    America is doomed.

    The Obama plan to cut taxes will cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

    It actually will cut taxes: For those who currently pay NO taxes.

    How do they do that?

    They send an additional check to NONTAX PAYING citizens for $1000.00

    Money they didn’t pay in. But a new handout from President Obama.

    How do they do that?

  345. American_Way
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    There is NO LONGER any money to redistribute.

    This nation is doomed.

  346. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Chas, Obama said he would cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

    I heard that. AmericanWay heard that. America heard that.

    You Chas, seem to like to make sh*t up. Or, you have maird in your ears. (Tribute to Tropf)

  347. Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    “So Community Organizers organize picnics?” [CNAI]

    YEP… among many other very worthwhile events… some of which even include urging people to — wait for it — Register to VOTE…. like all good Americans should do —- regardless of political party!!

  348. Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    “God Da*n Amerika, huh Chas?” [CNAI]
    =========================================

    You betcah!!! When God needs to do so!!

  349. Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:07 pm | Permalink
    Chas, Obama said he would cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

    I heard that. AmericanWay heard that. America heard that.

    You Chas, seem to like to make sh*t up. Or, you have maird in your ears. (Tribute to Tropf)
    ===========================================

    ROFLMAO!!! I see YOU cant read or listen either!!

  350. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Yah Chas, we know how ACORN registers people to vote.

    That’s a great community service.

    You have to be a frickin M O R A N if you can’t register to vote without help.

    Oh, and organizing P I C N I C S !!!

    WOW, what would we do without help organizing picnics!

    Chas, are you a member of MORANSRUS?

    Chas
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink
    “So Community Organizers organize picnics?” [CNAI]

    YEP… among many other very worthwhile events… some of which even include urging people to — wait for it — Register to VOTE…. like all good Americans should do —- regardless of political party!!

  351. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Obama can grill hotdogs.

    He should make a great Prez!

  352. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) — An investigation into Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s firing of her public safety commissioner can proceed, Alaska’s Supreme Court ruled Thursday, clearing the way for a Friday report to the state Legislature on the issue.

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has denied wrongdoing in the July departure of her public safety commissioner.

    Allies of Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, had sued to halt the Legislature-initiated investigation, saying the investigation is an attempt by Democrats to sabotage the GOP ticket.

    The justices unanimously upheld an Anchorage judge’s ruling last week that dismissed the Republican lawsuit and upheld subpoenas for top Palin associates.

  353. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    R E A D I N G

    L E S S O N

    F O R

    C H A S:

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/09/obama_calls_on_federal_reserve.html

    Full Remarks of Senator Barack Obama

    Thursday, September 18, 2008

    Espanola, New Mexico

    “I will cut taxes – cut taxes – for 95% of all working families.”

  354. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    Chas,

    Read it an weep.

    Dumba*s.

  355. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    PROOF OR THEOREM? Either way, Chas is a dumba*s:

    Chas
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:12 pm | Permalink
    CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:07 pm | Permalink
    Chas, Obama said he would cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

    I heard that. AmericanWay heard that. America heard that.

    You Chas, seem to like to make sh*t up. Or, you have maird in your ears. (Tribute to Tropf)
    ===========================================

    ROFLMAO!!! I see YOU cant read or listen either!!

  356. CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    How does your goodbye greeting go Chas?

    Something like this:

    Good night.
    Good luck.
    God bless.
    And may you all
    get f*cked.

    And may you wear out
    more p*ssy then hand.

  357. sursum
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    DavidB: Heading for Canada in January is madness, wait until May. But on the other hand there are about a million or more of them here in January so finding a spot to park wouldn’t be a problem. Maybe you are right…..

  358. Predestined
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Cute, CNaI. I’m sure you earned your wings in heaven with that one.

    How are your stocks doing, by the way?

  359. Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    I think this lack of reading and listening comprehension, must be some sort of genetic defect among the Reich Wing lunatics…

    There are WAY too many links from the Debate that can blow away your tax cuts SMEAR tactic on Obama….

    OBAMA: Less than $250,000 NO TAX increase….

    $200,000 or less, taxes will go down….

    Majority of small businesses will decrease in taxes….

    Right from The Debate in Nashville
    ==========================================

    Is there a Problem with that???

  360. fleettwood
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    “mxyzptlk”

    I haven’t seen that name in forever.
    You gotta love the Superman!

  361. XXX
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    #
    CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Obama can grill hotdogs.

    He should make a great Prez!
    _________________________________________________
    He can reach up and scratch the top of his head (unlike some repuke candidates we know)

  362. XXX
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    #
    CosmosNewandImproved
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    How does your goodbye greeting go Chas?

    Something like this:

    Good night.
    Good luck.
    God bless.
    And may you all
    get f*cked.

    And may you wear out
    more p*ssy then hand.
    ________________________________________________

    Real class act, guy. Tell your mom she’s a failure.

  363. bth
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    FakeCosmos seems to be a typical dittohead Repuke. Nothing new.

  364. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    McCain can…

    Well he can wander around a stage and say “I know how to (fill in the blank)” alot.

    He can pick a running mate who has become a national joke and ratings boost for Saturday Night Live.

    McCain is like the captain of the Titanic. Except?

    Having stopped and assessed the damage, he has ordered the engines restarted and full speed ahead.

  365. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    So let’s be clear about my tax plan and Senator McCain’s, because we’re not going to be able to deal with entitlements unless we understand the revenues coming in. I want to provide a tax cut for 95 percent of Americans, 95 percent.

    If you make less than a quarter of a million dollars a year, you will not see a single dime of your taxes go up. If you make $200,000 a year or less, your taxes will go down.

    Now, Senator McCain talks about small businesses. Only a few percent of small businesses make more than $250,000 a year. So the vast majority of small businesses would get a tax cut under my plan.

    And we provide a 50 percent tax credit so that they can buy health insurance for their workers, because there are an awful lot of small businesses that I meet across America that want to do right by their workers but they just can’t afford it. Some small business owners, a lot of them, can’t even afford health insurance for themselves.

    Now, in contrast, Senator McCain wants to give a $300 billion tax cut, $200 billion of it to the largest corporations and a hundred thousand of it — a hundred billion of it going to people like CEOs on Wall Street. He wants to give average Fortune 500 CEO an additional $700,000 in tax cuts.
    ==========================================

    http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2008c.html

  366. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay,

    Don’t forget that McCain can say “my friends” 22 times during a 90 minute debate.

  367. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Another McCain skill?

    He can pick a running mate who INSPIRES people…

    TO hope for his death so his poorly chosen running mate can be President.

  368. blogmonitor
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Whomever is the next POTUS, and right now it appears to the powers to be Obama, will be confronted with a nation none of us has ever witnessed.

    Most are still in shock or denial. But the America we knew is gone.

    There is no longer any credit. Our nation, like much of the world, is broke.

    The paper and electronic stock of our nation is worthless. The dollar has been devalued. The treasury has decided to issue more paper – instead of bonding more debt. No one would buy our more debt.

    It is a time of great change we are facing. It is a time where those in power, will influence the America our children will grow up in.

    The time of plenty is past. The limits on our personal credit cards, like that of our nation have been exceeded.

    There is no one. No one, left to pay the piper.

    There is a certain satisfaction that the poor will enjoy, knowing the richest among us is no longer rich. We will all share in the same lines for goods and services. You may not recognize the haves from the have nots because we will all be the same. And some will feel elation at that.

    But all will suffer. And there will never never be funding to provide for all ever again.

    The new leader can either enslave us all, and try to exert power where none exists – or let millions die and let the new nation emerge.

    The reality and shock have yet to sink in for most of us. But if anyone looks closely, and thinks it through, the nation of abundance for all is gone.

    Praise Obama. Praise Mccain. But neither will have the power to stop the suffering which must precede recovery.

  369. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Fake Cosmos appears to be a “new” Sockpuppet creation of a regular poster. FakeCosmos knows a LOT about blog history. Too much for a “new” poster!! ROFLMAO!!!!

  370. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    FakeCosmos seems obsessed with Sexual inuendo, and “peversion” —- like several of our regular posters…. They should form a club and meet at the airport restroom… And they can invite the Senator from Idaho to be their special guest…

  371. blogmonitor
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    You fool:

    I want to provide a tax cut for 95 percent of Americans, 95 percent.

    There is no revenue to extract from anyone to provide such a promise. The 10 trillion will not go away. It is here.

    There can be no tax cut – for those not paying taxes now. That is impossible. The new math will not even cover the pipe dream.

    Worthless dollars may be printed but there is no standard to back them up.

    You live a fools dream of utopia.

  372. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Everybody mark your calendars.. The “blogmonitor” Sockpuppet admits defeat!! Be sure to capture that moment…

  373. blogmonitor
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Our treasury cannot even issue new bonds. There is no one there to buy them.

    They are left with their only option: Print more paper.

  374. blogmonitor
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    Chas you are the fool on the hill.

    It matters not who wins this silly election.

    The debt is now due. There can be no alternative.

    The real defeat is the United States of America.
    McCain fool or Obama.

    You are in denial. Shock may take longer to register with those with less to loose.

  375. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    “There can be no tax cut – for those not paying taxes now. That is impossible. The new math will not even cover the pipe dream.” [BlogMonitor]

    That is EXACTLY what Obama is saying… How many people making $200,000+ do NOT pay taxes??? DAMN few….

    That is why BlogMonitor’s argument is a red herring/straw man…. Does ANYbody know of anybody making $200,000+ who is NOT paying taxes???

    And, furthermore, IF they are making $200,000+ they arent sitting on their butts looking for a handout (which is another infamous claim of Reich Wingers)….

    Mark the date… Ocgtober 9, 2008 —– The “BlogMonitor” Sock Puppet creation of a regular poster has admitted all is lost, and America is in defeat… ROFLMAO!!!

  376. blogmonitor
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    The moment is not mine, nor yours to capture. It is not one any of us will want to remember.

    The “bailout” was nothing more than pulling a rabbit out of a hat.

    The trick did not work. Worse, it was revealed for exactly what it was.

    The markets will fall further. There is nothing left!? to stop them. Nothing.

    There is no credit to pay payrolls. Everyone it seems to include each of our businesses, were in the market to barrow cash. There is no one with any to give and there is no one giving. At the end of it all, the one with the pockets has come up short.

    Reality check America.

    Politicians will literally become a dime a dozen.

  377. blogmonitor
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Remember my words.

    The fool on the hill Chas.

    For most posters here, you already enjoyed that title.

    The court jester continues to laugh hysterically as the kings head is lopped off.

  378. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    AWWWW GEEZ, BM, go cry in your friggin beer!! Your nic initials fit you well!!

    We dont need to hear your mournful cries!!

  379. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    From what BM posts here, it would seem that his/her “chickens have come home to roost.”

  380. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Oh I think we can find those who have done so well these last 25 years at public expense.

    They can be PROPERLY taxed after the election.

    You cons are not getting it. Your operatives worked to control government in order to break it. But your side is about to be out of power.

    WORKING government will be restored. Business will not only be out of government, government will be IN to business precisely because greed went too far and made it necessary.

    This is not a tragic occasion, though there will be pain. THIS is an opportunity.

  381. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    ‘Exclusive: Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin on ‘Hannity & Colmes”
    HANNITY: … Between the two of you, Senator let’s start with you, tell us what do you envision for the governor, as her role?

    MCCAIN: Well, first of all she’s probably one of the foremost experts in this nation on energy issues. … And so I think that there’s nobody more qualified to take on our mission of becoming energy independent.
    ———-

    McCain’s “nobody more qualified” wants Alaskans to pray for the nat gas pipeline to be built.

    Sarah Palin: Alaskan Pipeline is “God’s Will”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS_VduCWhzM

    Does McCain’s “nobody more qualified” want to stop exports, by praying?

    ‘U.S. Exports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products’
    http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_exp_dc_nus-z00_mbblpd_m.htm

    Does McCain’s “nobody more qualified” want us to become energy independent, by praying?

    And if the prayers aren’t answered. . .?

  382. static
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    “And this is NOT in the news media because they have already decided America needs the ONE.”

    Would this be the same media that gave and continues to give GWB a pass?

  383. Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    “Oh I think we can find those who have done so well these last 25 years at public expense.”

    I’ll cite a few who need special attention.

    Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Neal Boortz, Laura Ingram, Tammy Bruce, and Mark Levin.

    Locally, throw in HLP Hank and okobserver.

    The money IS there. All we have to do is go get it.

  384. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    Kansas values” Regular posted October 9, 2008 at 11:40 am
    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1009/#comment-443211

    That’s the second time cosmos has posted that and both time his conclusion was wrong.

    Guiliani implied it’s not about association, it’s about ideology.

    Get it?

    cosmos?

    ideology

    Well, I know he won’t get it, cosmos is too busy pulling his underwear from his crack.
    ———————–

    That was the third time.

    And my conclusion is 100% accurate. Giuliani is NOT a credible source on anything about Obama.

    Giuliani just parrots lies from his friend Sen. McCain, and the RNC.

  385. Posted October 10, 2008 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    good night; good luck; god bless —-
    whatever you conceive god to be!!

    blessings ALL!

    and may the sock puppets not be put to bed with smelly socks!!

    so mote it be!!

  386. Regular
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    cosmos still ruminating on Giuliani’s butt.

    Perhaps cosmos will continue to take the bait. :)

  387. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 10, 2008 at 12:55 am | Permalink

    CosmosNewandImproved posted October 9, 2008 at 9:31 pm
    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1009/#comment-443652

    How does your goodbye greeting go Chas?

    Something like this:

    Good night.
    Good luck.
    God bless.
    And may you all
    get f*cked.

    And may you wear out
    more p*ssy then hand.

  388. Posted October 10, 2008 at 2:00 am | Permalink

    Geez, Disgusting!!

  389. Posted October 10, 2008 at 2:50 am | Permalink

    From the article cited by CNAI above….

    Mr. Obama:

    “I will cut taxes – cut taxes – for 95% of all working families. My opponent doesn’t want you to know this, but under my plan, tax rates will actually be less than they were under Ronald Reagan. If you make less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increase one single dime.”

    I suppose you can call a tax freeze a tax cut…. But that is a FAR CRY from the damnable right wing smear that Obama will take from the working folks, and give to the freeloaders….

    You cant MAKE $250,000 and not work!! That should be so easy to figure out that even a dum S*it Sockpuppet can figure it out!! Hell, even a CAVE man could figure that out!!

    So, CNAI, what’s your comprehension problem?? Could it be the foot odor from your beloved SOCK??? ROFLMAO!!!
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    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/09/obama_calls_on_federal_reserve.html