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		<title>By: NoahSpielberg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-452209</link>
		<dc:creator>NoahSpielberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good day!,

I&#039;ve recently found a marvelous way to track down every HR job and human resources job in one place  [url=http://www.HRCrossing.com]HRCrossing[/url]  It almost looks to good to be true.  

The market is definetely in bad shape.  I think there are fewer jobs out there for HR Managers than there were at this time last year.  Personally, I am sending out as many resumes as I can as fast as I can.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good day!,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently found a marvelous way to track down every HR job and human resources job in one place  [url=http://www.HRCrossing.com]HRCrossing[/url]  It almost looks to good to be true.  </p>
<p>The market is definetely in bad shape.  I think there are fewer jobs out there for HR Managers than there were at this time last year.  Personally, I am sending out as many resumes as I can as fast as I can.  </p>
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		<title>By: Monkeyhawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442890</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkeyhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah Palin Gets Arrested!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGS_tbhejhI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah Palin Gets Arrested!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGS_tbhejhI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGS_tbhejhI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442889</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAX  ---  You  suck  green  weenies...   your  posts  are  sooo  smelly...  must  be your  bad  breath  ivading  the  Blog!!   Try  CREST!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAX  &#8212;  You  suck  green  weenies&#8230;   your  posts  are  sooo  smelly&#8230;  must  be your  bad  breath  ivading  the  Blog!!   Try  CREST!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442888</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The agitator’s job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the “realization” that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and
corporations will see imminent “self-interest” in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.” 

ALSO  sounds  a  whole lot  like  what  the  hate and  fear  mongers  are  attempting  to  do  with  the  Obama  candidacy....   

You  go  for it,  haters....   USE  Alinsky  for  all  you  got,   then  turn  around  and  make  your  stupid  half  assed  accusations!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The agitator’s job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the “realization” that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and<br />
corporations will see imminent “self-interest” in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.” </p>
<p>ALSO  sounds  a  whole lot  like  what  the  hate and  fear  mongers  are  attempting  to  do  with  the  Obama  candidacy&#8230;.   </p>
<p>You  go  for it,  haters&#8230;.   USE  Alinsky  for  all  you  got,   then  turn  around  and  make  your  stupid  half  assed  accusations!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442887</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The agitator’s job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the “realization” that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and
corporations will see imminent “self-interest” in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.&quot;   LOL

Sounds like  the  basic  approach  to  a  Revival  Preacher  working  an  arena  audience!!

To wit &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

The  evangelist  starts  out.....

&lt;i&gt;&quot;first to bring folks to the “realization” that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of&quot;&lt;/i&gt;   anybody  but  themselves...  but  if  they  REPENT  of  what  it  is  that is  making  them  miserable,   they  can  then  command  that  GOD  forgive  them,  and  SAVE  them  from  all  their  self-centered  deeds!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The agitator’s job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the “realization” that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and<br />
corporations will see imminent “self-interest” in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.&#8221;   LOL</p>
<p>Sounds like  the  basic  approach  to  a  Revival  Preacher  working  an  arena  audience!!</p>
<p>To wit &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>The  evangelist  starts  out&#8230;..</p>
<p><i>&#8220;first to bring folks to the “realization” that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of&#8221;</i>   anybody  but  themselves&#8230;  but  if  they  REPENT  of  what  it  is  that is  making  them  miserable,   they  can  then  command  that  GOD  forgive  them,  and  SAVE  them  from  all  their  self-centered  deeds!!</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442885</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monitoring Sean Hannity&#039;s interview with McCain and Palin. Full report tomorrow.

   Hannity and his FOX &quot;news&quot; masters ARE the center now of the McCain campaign. The distractions and attacks from McCain and Palin have their source with Hannity and FOX &quot;news&quot;

   Predictably enough, Sarah Palin will only do interviews from now on with either Hannity or FOX &quot;news&quot; convert Greta van Sustern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monitoring Sean Hannity&#8217;s interview with McCain and Palin. Full report tomorrow.</p>
<p>   Hannity and his FOX &#8220;news&#8221; masters ARE the center now of the McCain campaign. The distractions and attacks from McCain and Palin have their source with Hannity and FOX &#8220;news&#8221;</p>
<p>   Predictably enough, Sarah Palin will only do interviews from now on with either Hannity or FOX &#8220;news&#8221; convert Greta van Sustern.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442882</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACORN again. YAWWWWN. 

in real news today...
Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times. ...

In the year ending Sept. 30, election officials in Nevada, for example, used the Social Security database more than 740,000 times to check voter files or registration applications and found more than 715,000 nonmatches, federal records show.

Officials of the Social Security Administration, presented with those numbers, said they were far too high to be cases where names were not in state databases. They said the data seem to represent a violation of federal law and the contract the states signed with the agency to use the database.

www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACORN again. YAWWWWN. </p>
<p>in real news today&#8230;<br />
Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times. &#8230;</p>
<p>In the year ending Sept. 30, election officials in Nevada, for example, used the Social Security database more than 740,000 times to check voter files or registration applications and found more than 715,000 nonmatches, federal records show.</p>
<p>Officials of the Social Security Administration, presented with those numbers, said they were far too high to be cases where names were not in state databases. They said the data seem to represent a violation of federal law and the contract the states signed with the agency to use the database.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?hp</a></p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442881</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACORN again. YAWWWWN. 

in real news today...
Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times. ...

In the year ending Sept. 30, election officials in Nevada, for example, used the Social Security database more than 740,000 times to check voter files or registration applications and found more than 715,000 nonmatches, federal records show.

Officials of the Social Security Administration, presented with those numbers, said they were far too high to be cases where names were not in state databases. They said the data seem to represent a violation of federal law and the contract the states signed with the agency to use the database.

www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACORN again. YAWWWWN. </p>
<p>in real news today&#8230;<br />
Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times. &#8230;</p>
<p>In the year ending Sept. 30, election officials in Nevada, for example, used the Social Security database more than 740,000 times to check voter files or registration applications and found more than 715,000 nonmatches, federal records show.</p>
<p>Officials of the Social Security Administration, presented with those numbers, said they were far too high to be cases where names were not in state databases. They said the data seem to represent a violation of federal law and the contract the states signed with the agency to use the database.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?hp</a></p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442876</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catching up.

   I don&#039;t have the free time that &quot;busy bee&quot; okobserver has.

    Thanks for getting my back farmgrrl.

    As for okie? I&#039;ll be better than her.

    I&#039;ll get MY shots in when she is actually around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catching up.</p>
<p>   I don&#8217;t have the free time that &#8220;busy bee&#8221; okobserver has.</p>
<p>    Thanks for getting my back farmgrrl.</p>
<p>    As for okie? I&#8217;ll be better than her.</p>
<p>    I&#8217;ll get MY shots in when she is actually around.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442875</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos_originally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MaxGrobnik posted October 8, 2008 at 9:38 pm

What, no new Global Warming news today?
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It was on the debate thread.

For Hank, and all the other AGW deniers,

http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2008c.html
QUESTION: Senator McCain, I want to know, we saw that Congress moved pretty fast in the face of an economic crisis. I want to know what you would do within the first two years to make sure that Congress moves fast as far as environmental issues, like &lt;b&gt;climate change&lt;/b&gt; and green jobs? 

MCCAIN: Well, thank you. Look, we are in tough economic times; we all know that. And let’s keep — never forget the struggle that Americans are in today. 

But when we can — when we have an issue that we may hand our children and our grandchildren a damaged planet, I have disagreed strongly with the Bush administration on this issue. I traveled all over the world looking at the effects of &lt;b&gt;greenhouse gas emissions&lt;/b&gt;, Joe Lieberman and I.

And I introduced the first legislation, and we forced votes on it. That’s the good news, my friends. The bad news is we lost. But we kept the debate going, and we kept this issue to — to posing to Americans the danger that &lt;b&gt;climate change&lt;/b&gt; opposes.
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&#039;&lt;b&gt;Obama Hits Hard on Efficiency Themes,/b&gt;&#039;
http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/obama-hits-hard-on-efficiency-themes/?hp 
&quot;It is not often that home weatherization gets discussed at the presidential level. Yet there was Senator Barack Obama at the debate on Tuesday night, urging Americans to save energy by fixing up their houses.

“Each and every one of us can start thinking about how can we save energy in our homes, in our buildings,” Mr. Obama said. His administration, he said, would incentivize Detroit to make more fuel-efficient cars, and would also be “making sure that you are able to weatherize your home or make your business more fuel efficient”. &quot;

More at link, plus link to &#039;&lt;b&gt;Debating the Facts on Oil, Nukes and Climate&lt;/b&gt;&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MaxGrobnik posted October 8, 2008 at 9:38 pm</p>
<p>What, no new Global Warming news today?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>It was on the debate thread.</p>
<p>For Hank, and all the other AGW deniers,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2008c.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2008c.html</a><br />
QUESTION: Senator McCain, I want to know, we saw that Congress moved pretty fast in the face of an economic crisis. I want to know what you would do within the first two years to make sure that Congress moves fast as far as environmental issues, like <b>climate change</b> and green jobs? </p>
<p>MCCAIN: Well, thank you. Look, we are in tough economic times; we all know that. And let’s keep — never forget the struggle that Americans are in today. </p>
<p>But when we can — when we have an issue that we may hand our children and our grandchildren a damaged planet, I have disagreed strongly with the Bush administration on this issue. I traveled all over the world looking at the effects of <b>greenhouse gas emissions</b>, Joe Lieberman and I.</p>
<p>And I introduced the first legislation, and we forced votes on it. That’s the good news, my friends. The bad news is we lost. But we kept the debate going, and we kept this issue to — to posing to Americans the danger that <b>climate change</b> opposes.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>&#8216;<b>Obama Hits Hard on Efficiency Themes,/b&gt;&#8217;<br />
<a href="http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/obama-hits-hard-on-efficiency-themes/?hp" rel="nofollow">http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/obama-hits-hard-on-efficiency-themes/?hp</a><br />
&#8220;It is not often that home weatherization gets discussed at the presidential level. Yet there was Senator Barack Obama at the debate on Tuesday night, urging Americans to save energy by fixing up their houses.</p>
<p>“Each and every one of us can start thinking about how can we save energy in our homes, in our buildings,” Mr. Obama said. His administration, he said, would incentivize Detroit to make more fuel-efficient cars, and would also be “making sure that you are able to weatherize your home or make your business more fuel efficient”. &#8221;</p>
<p>More at link, plus link to &#8216;</b><b>Debating the Facts on Oil, Nukes and Climate</b>&#8216;</p>
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		<title>By: annie_moose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442874</link>
		<dc:creator>annie_moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One other thing I&#039;ve done, is I&#039;ve called on private sector mortgage banks and banks to be more aggressive about lending money to first-time home buyers. And the response has been really good. There&#039;s a lot of people in this -- our communities around the country that deeply care about the issue of homeownership, and they&#039;ve been responsive.&quot;

    - George W. Bush, U.S. President, March 26, 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One other thing I&#8217;ve done, is I&#8217;ve called on private sector mortgage banks and banks to be more aggressive about lending money to first-time home buyers. And the response has been really good. There&#8217;s a lot of people in this &#8212; our communities around the country that deeply care about the issue of homeownership, and they&#8217;ve been responsive.&#8221;</p>
<p>    &#8211; George W. Bush, U.S. President, March 26, 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: Kandisue</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442870</link>
		<dc:creator>Kandisue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kandisue</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442869</link>
		<dc:creator>Kandisue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Sarah Palin had made just one of the wildly inaccurate statements smugly uttered by Sen. Joe Biden in last week&#039;s vice-presidential debate, there would have been 3-inch headlines in newspapers across America. (I can almost hear Katie Couric asking me, &quot;Which newspapers?&quot;)

These weren&#039;t insignificant errors, such as when Biden said, &quot;Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie&#039;s restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time, and you ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration has made them better off in the last eight years.&quot;

It turns out that Katie&#039;s restaurant, where Biden gets his feel for the average American, closed 20 years ago. The only evidence that he spends any time in Home Depot is that it appears that a pipe wrench fell on his head one too many times.

Palin would surely have been forced to withdraw from the ticket had she said something like that, but most of Biden&#039;s errors were not trifling mistakes like these. They were lengthy Lyndon LaRouche-like disquisitions that were pure fantasy from beginning to end.

For example, Biden said about Hezbollah: &quot;When we kicked – along with France – we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon.&quot; Hezbollah was never kicked out of Lebanon.

He continued: &quot;I said and Barack said, &#039;Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don&#039;t, Hezbollah will control it.&#039;&quot; This is madness – Lebanon is not a NATO country, nor had any NATO country been attacked by Lebanon.

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#039;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his knowledge of foreign policy.

Biden also stoutly denied that Obama ever said he would sit down with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Liberals find it hilarious that McCain can&#039;t use a computer keyboard on account of his war injuries, but Biden is apparently unaware of the Internet, because there are clips all over the Internet of Obama saying exactly that during the CNN/YouTube debate last year.

Biden might have remembered that debate since: 1) He was there, and 2) he later attacked Obama&#039;s answer, telling the National Press Club in August 2007: &quot;Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely, positively, no.&quot;

And that&#039;s still not all! Obama&#039;s own website says: &quot;Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions.&quot;

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#039;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his ability to remember well-known facts.

Biden also gave a long speech at the debate on Vice President Dick Cheney&#039;s &quot;dangerous&quot; belief that &quot;he&#039;s part of the legislative branch.&quot; The great constitutional scholar Biden cited Article I of the Constitution as proof that Cheney &quot;works in the executive branch&quot; and has &quot;no authority relative to the Congress.&quot; Biden huffily added: &quot;He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.&quot;

Palin would have had to deny that Alaska is a state in the union in order to say something comparably stupid.

Article II, not I, describes the executive branch. Someone tell Biden, who is supposed to be a lawyer. Apart from getting the Articles of the Constitution mixed up, what on earth does Biden mean when he says that the vice president &quot;has no authority relative to Congress,&quot; apart from breaking ties?

The Constitution makes him president of the Senate every day of the week. I realize that Biden may not be able to count to two, but Article I says the vice president is president of one of the two houses of Congress – the one Biden is in, for crying out loud – which is what you might call &quot;authority relative to Congress.&quot;

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#039;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his knowledge of the Constitution.

In one especially hallucinatory answer, Biden authoritatively stated: &quot;With Afghanistan, facts matter, Gwen. ... We spend more money in three weeks on combat in Iraq than we spent on the entirety of the last seven years that we have been in Afghanistan building that country.&quot;

According to the Congressional Research Service, since 9/11, we&#039;ve spent $172 billion in Afghanistan and $653 billion in Iraq. The most money spent in Iraq came in 2008, when we have been spending less than $3 billion a week. So by Biden&#039;s calculations, we&#039;ve spent only about $9 billion &quot;on the entirety of the last seven years that we have been in Afghanistan building that country.&quot; There isn&#039;t even a &quot;9&quot; in $172 billion.

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#039;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his knowledge of math.

In the same answer, Biden went on to claim that &quot;John McCain voted against a comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty that every Republican has supported.&quot;

The last nuclear test ban treaty the Senate voted on was the one Clinton signed in the &#039;90s. As The New York Times editorialized on the Senate vote a few years later: &quot;Last week, Senate Republicans thundered &#039;no&#039; to the nuclear test ban treaty, handing the White House its biggest defeat since health care in 1994.&quot; Forty-nine Republicans voted against the treaty; only four liberal Republicans voted for it. That&#039;s the treaty Biden says &quot;every Republican has supported.&quot;

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#039;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his ability to function as vice president.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Sarah Palin had made just one of the wildly inaccurate statements smugly uttered by Sen. Joe Biden in last week&#8217;s vice-presidential debate, there would have been 3-inch headlines in newspapers across America. (I can almost hear Katie Couric asking me, &#8220;Which newspapers?&#8221;)</p>
<p>These weren&#8217;t insignificant errors, such as when Biden said, &#8220;Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie&#8217;s restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time, and you ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration has made them better off in the last eight years.&#8221;</p>
<p>It turns out that Katie&#8217;s restaurant, where Biden gets his feel for the average American, closed 20 years ago. The only evidence that he spends any time in Home Depot is that it appears that a pipe wrench fell on his head one too many times.</p>
<p>Palin would surely have been forced to withdraw from the ticket had she said something like that, but most of Biden&#8217;s errors were not trifling mistakes like these. They were lengthy Lyndon LaRouche-like disquisitions that were pure fantasy from beginning to end.</p>
<p>For example, Biden said about Hezbollah: &#8220;When we kicked – along with France – we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon.&#8221; Hezbollah was never kicked out of Lebanon.</p>
<p>He continued: &#8220;I said and Barack said, &#8216;Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don&#8217;t, Hezbollah will control it.&#8217;&#8221; This is madness – Lebanon is not a NATO country, nor had any NATO country been attacked by Lebanon.</p>
<p>Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#8217;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his knowledge of foreign policy.</p>
<p>Biden also stoutly denied that Obama ever said he would sit down with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Liberals find it hilarious that McCain can&#8217;t use a computer keyboard on account of his war injuries, but Biden is apparently unaware of the Internet, because there are clips all over the Internet of Obama saying exactly that during the CNN/YouTube debate last year.</p>
<p>Biden might have remembered that debate since: 1) He was there, and 2) he later attacked Obama&#8217;s answer, telling the National Press Club in August 2007: &#8220;Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely, positively, no.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s still not all! Obama&#8217;s own website says: &#8220;Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#8217;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his ability to remember well-known facts.</p>
<p>Biden also gave a long speech at the debate on Vice President Dick Cheney&#8217;s &#8220;dangerous&#8221; belief that &#8220;he&#8217;s part of the legislative branch.&#8221; The great constitutional scholar Biden cited Article I of the Constitution as proof that Cheney &#8220;works in the executive branch&#8221; and has &#8220;no authority relative to the Congress.&#8221; Biden huffily added: &#8220;He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Palin would have had to deny that Alaska is a state in the union in order to say something comparably stupid.</p>
<p>Article II, not I, describes the executive branch. Someone tell Biden, who is supposed to be a lawyer. Apart from getting the Articles of the Constitution mixed up, what on earth does Biden mean when he says that the vice president &#8220;has no authority relative to Congress,&#8221; apart from breaking ties?</p>
<p>The Constitution makes him president of the Senate every day of the week. I realize that Biden may not be able to count to two, but Article I says the vice president is president of one of the two houses of Congress – the one Biden is in, for crying out loud – which is what you might call &#8220;authority relative to Congress.&#8221;</p>
<p>Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#8217;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his knowledge of the Constitution.</p>
<p>In one especially hallucinatory answer, Biden authoritatively stated: &#8220;With Afghanistan, facts matter, Gwen. &#8230; We spend more money in three weeks on combat in Iraq than we spent on the entirety of the last seven years that we have been in Afghanistan building that country.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to the Congressional Research Service, since 9/11, we&#8217;ve spent $172 billion in Afghanistan and $653 billion in Iraq. The most money spent in Iraq came in 2008, when we have been spending less than $3 billion a week. So by Biden&#8217;s calculations, we&#8217;ve spent only about $9 billion &#8220;on the entirety of the last seven years that we have been in Afghanistan building that country.&#8221; There isn&#8217;t even a &#8220;9&#8243; in $172 billion.</p>
<p>Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#8217;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his knowledge of math.</p>
<p>In the same answer, Biden went on to claim that &#8220;John McCain voted against a comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty that every Republican has supported.&#8221;</p>
<p>The last nuclear test ban treaty the Senate voted on was the one Clinton signed in the &#8217;90s. As The New York Times editorialized on the Senate vote a few years later: &#8220;Last week, Senate Republicans thundered &#8216;no&#8217; to the nuclear test ban treaty, handing the White House its biggest defeat since health care in 1994.&#8221; Forty-nine Republicans voted against the treaty; only four liberal Republicans voted for it. That&#8217;s the treaty Biden says &#8220;every Republican has supported.&#8221;</p>
<p>Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn&#8217;t picked for the Democrat ticket based on his ability to function as vice president.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442866</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cosmos_originally
Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:36 pm &#124; Permalink
“Kansas values” Regular,

Are you adding any false, fictional paragraphs to your long, right-wing, non-credible copy/pastes that most people just scroll past?
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Pot calling the Kettle black.

What, no new Global Warming news today?</description>
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Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:36 pm | Permalink<br />
“Kansas values” Regular,</p>
<p>Are you adding any false, fictional paragraphs to your long, right-wing, non-credible copy/pastes that most people just scroll past?<br />
=============================================================</p>
<p>Pot calling the Kettle black.</p>
<p>What, no new Global Warming news today?</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442865</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos_originally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kansas values&quot; Regular,

Are you adding any false, fictional paragraphs to your long, right-wing, non-credible copy/pastes that most people just scroll past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kansas values&#8221; Regular,</p>
<p>Are you adding any false, fictional paragraphs to your long, right-wing, non-credible copy/pastes that most people just scroll past?</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442864</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s Chas, crying out for y&#039;all to &quot;Help Me!&quot;.  Listen to Chas, and see if this isn&#039;t him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qP81havHnE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s Chas, crying out for y&#8217;all to &#8220;Help Me!&#8221;.  Listen to Chas, and see if this isn&#8217;t him!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qP81havHnE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qP81havHnE</a></p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442863</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chas
Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:18 pm &#124; Permalink
I REPEAT &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Reaqd carefully, Reguliar &gt;&gt;&gt;

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Teacher!  Teacher!  (Waves hands and gyrates frantically!)

Listen to me!

Listen to me!

I&#039;m a Phony Preacher with a message for you!  If you don&#039;t listen the first time, I&#039;LL JUST HAVE TO REPOST, AND REPOST, AND REPOST, AND REPOST, until you acknowledge the speck that is calling out to all of you from Whoville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chas<br />
Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:18 pm | Permalink<br />
I REPEAT &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Reaqd carefully, Reguliar &gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Teacher!  Teacher!  (Waves hands and gyrates frantically!)</p>
<p>Listen to me!</p>
<p>Listen to me!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Phony Preacher with a message for you!  If you don&#8217;t listen the first time, I&#8217;LL JUST HAVE TO REPOST, AND REPOST, AND REPOST, AND REPOST, until you acknowledge the speck that is calling out to all of you from Whoville.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442862</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chas
Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:10 pm &#124; Permalink
“3. World Net Daily Posted Sept 24, 2008?

ROFL!!! WND — home ezine of Jerome Corsi, lying bastard author, and all around LOSER!!! 

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Brought to you by:  The Phony Preacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chas<br />
Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:10 pm | Permalink<br />
“3. World Net Daily Posted Sept 24, 2008?</p>
<p>ROFL!!! WND — home ezine of Jerome Corsi, lying bastard author, and all around LOSER!!! </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Brought to you by:  The Phony Preacher.</p>
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		<title>By: JMWalker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442860</link>
		<dc:creator>JMWalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:21 pm &#124; Permalink

JMWalker posted October 8, 2008 at 8:55 pm

If you have to quote some brainless tripe like, DAVID H. HACKWORTH, you need to change out that tinfoil hat for one actually containing brain matter.
——

Is this who JM Walker is calling a “brainless tripe”?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hackworth
“David Haskell Hackworth (November 11, 1930 – May 4, 2005) known affectionately as “Hack”, was a retired United States Army colonel and prominent military journalist.”
==================================================
When he writes articles like that about McCain&#039;s heroism, that would be you&#039;re damn right.

I really don&#039;t give a damn what you think of McCain. I wouldn&#039;t vote for him under just about any circumstances, but to call into question his war record as a POW takes a moron, and the name, &quot;Hack,&quot; fits perfectly. 

Keep it real, people. That kind of crap belongs nowhere anyone with an IQ of 2 or higher congregate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<br />
cosmos_originally<br />
Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:21 pm | Permalink</p>
<p>JMWalker posted October 8, 2008 at 8:55 pm</p>
<p>If you have to quote some brainless tripe like, DAVID H. HACKWORTH, you need to change out that tinfoil hat for one actually containing brain matter.<br />
——</p>
<p>Is this who JM Walker is calling a “brainless tripe”?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hackworth" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hackworth</a><br />
“David Haskell Hackworth (November 11, 1930 – May 4, 2005) known affectionately as “Hack”, was a retired United States Army colonel and prominent military journalist.”<br />
==================================================<br />
When he writes articles like that about McCain&#8217;s heroism, that would be you&#8217;re damn right.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t give a damn what you think of McCain. I wouldn&#8217;t vote for him under just about any circumstances, but to call into question his war record as a POW takes a moron, and the name, &#8220;Hack,&#8221; fits perfectly. </p>
<p>Keep it real, people. That kind of crap belongs nowhere anyone with an IQ of 2 or higher congregate.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That ACORN nut was really cracked to heck today.  

BOTTOM LINE:

DemoRats don&#039;t care if they have to steal the election to win.  Socialism at all costs for them.

Just Remember, 4 years from now, you will HAVE what you asked for.  And don&#039;t btich about it.  You asked for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That ACORN nut was really cracked to heck today.  </p>
<p>BOTTOM LINE:</p>
<p>DemoRats don&#8217;t care if they have to steal the election to win.  Socialism at all costs for them.</p>
<p>Just Remember, 4 years from now, you will HAVE what you asked for.  And don&#8217;t btich about it.  You asked for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah cosmos, Hacksworth - who loved the country so much he moved to Australia to stir up crap there as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah cosmos, Hacksworth &#8211; who loved the country so much he moved to Australia to stir up crap there as well.</p>
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		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/open-thread-1008/#comment-442857</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s Alinsky Lessons

Barack Obama had just graduated from Columbia and was looking for a job.  Some white leftists were looking for someone who could recruit in a black neighborhood in the south side of Chicago.

Obama answered a help-wanted ad for a position as a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago.  Obama was 24 years old, unmarried, very accustomed to a vagabond existence, and according to his memoir, searching for a genuine African-American community.

Both the CCRC and the DCP were built on the Alinsky model of community agitation, wherein paid organizers learned how to &quot;rub raw the sores of discontent,&quot; in Alinsky&#039;s words.

One of Obama&#039;s early mentors in the Alinsky method was Mike Kruglik, who had this to say 
to an Ryan Lizza of The New Republic, about Obama:
 &quot;He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full 
of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they 
were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better.&quot;

The agitator&#039;s job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the &quot;realization&quot; that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and 
corporations will see imminent &quot;self-interest&quot; in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.

In these methods, euphemistically labeled &quot;community organizing,&quot; Obama had a four-year 
education, which he often says was the best education he ever got anywhere.

Is it any wonder, then, that Obama&#039;s Alinsky Jujitsu is making mincemeat of the woman 
who merely interviewed Alinsky, wrote about him, and spent the next 30 years in corporate law and in the lap of taxpayer-funded luxury in government mansions?

Obama Not Starry-Eyed Like His Followers
Alinsky considered himself a realist above all, the ultimate pragmatist.  As a confirmed 
atheist, Alinsky believed that the here and now is all there is, and therefore had no qualms about assorted versions of morality in the pursuit of worldly power.  He didn&#039;t coddle his radical acolytes or encourage their bourgeois distinctions between good and evil when it came to transferring power from the Haves to the Have Nots.  Alinsky saw the already formed church communities as being the perfect springboards for agitation and creating bonds for demanding goods and services.

When Obama first undertook his agitating work in Chicago&#039;s South Side poor neighborhoods, he was un-churched.  Yet his office was in a Church and most of the folks he needed to agitate and organize were Church people -- pastors and congregants -- who took their churches and their church-going very seriously.  So, this became a problem for the young agnostic, who had been exposed to very little religion in his life.  Again and again, he was asked by pastors and church ladies, &quot;Where do you go to Church, young 
man?&quot;  It was a question he dodged for a while, but finally he relented and joined a church.

Not just any church, but a huge black nationalist church with a pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who unabashedly preaches a &quot;black&quot; gospel.  Rolling Stone Magazine ran with a story on Obama and his church, entitled, &quot;Destiny&#039;s Child,&quot; which included this excerpt from one of Rev. Wright&#039;s sermons:     &quot;Fact number one: We&#039;ve got more black men in prison than there are in college,&quot; he intones.

    &quot;Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!&quot;

    &quot;We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional KILLERS. . . . We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. . . . We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. . . . We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means!&quot;

    The crowd whoops and amens as Wright builds to his climax: &quot;And. And. And! GAWD! Has GOT! To be SICK! OF THIS S**T!&quot; 

This doesn&#039;t sound like any church in which I&#039;ve ever worshipped, but perhaps I have led a sheltered life.  Reverend Wright, whom Obama called his spiritual mentor and still claims is his sounding board, has taken trips abroad with none other than Louis Farrakhan. The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan received the &quot;Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright,Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer&quot; Award at the 2007 Trumpet Gala at the the United Church of Christ. Wright was even reported to be a former Muslim. One might be led to wonder if this &quot;church&quot; isn&#039;t all it makes itself out to be.

Among some of the black nationalist signs hanging in this church are a list of admonishments to black solidarity, called the &quot;Black Value System,&quot; and a sort of moral code calling for the &quot;Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.&quot;  I don&#039;t recall the Ten Commandments or anything at all in the Gospel about race, so this seems a bit 
strange.     

But Obama isn&#039;t starry-eyed when it comes to protecting himself from the possibility of bad press regarding his church affiliation.  When he was preparing to announce his campaign for the Presidency in February, he called his minister, Reverend Wright, the night before and disinvited him to stand on the podium in front of all the cameras.  

Rather than face questions, he simply eliminated the target, a perfect Alinsky action meant to forestall an enemy reaction.

Hillary should have known what she was up against when she read up on how Obama won his state senate seat in Illinois. 

Obama had returned to Chicago and practiced civil rights law for 3 years, when he spied an opportunity to run for the state senate.  A longtime, widely-revered matron of the civil rights movement named Alice Palmer had held the seat for a number of years, but she announced that she wanted to run for Congress.  So, Obama seized the opportunity and proclaimed his intention to run for Alice&#039;s open seat. 

Well, Alice lost the congressional race and decided that she wanted to hang onto that 
hard-won state senate seat.  Most of the community leaders tried to persuade Obama to 
withdraw and wait his turn; he was a newcomer after all. 

Instead Obama performed his first real act of political jujitsu.  He sent his aides to the courthouse to carefully examine all of Alice Palmer&#039;s signatures to see if enough could be disallowed to knock her off the ballot altogether.  And indeed, some of Alice&#039;s 
signatures were fake.  The aides also found enough other fake signatures on opponents&#039; 
ballot initiatives to knock them off the ballot as well. 

By the time Barack Obama walked handily into his state senate seat, everyone there knew him as &quot;the man who knocked off Alice Palmer.&quot;  Quite a feat indeed for the newcomer, the young whippersnapper with the odd name.

Perhaps Hillary will win some states and stay in the game a while longer, but I fear this knight with his adoring, fawning followers is just too slick for her and ole Bill, and he seems to know how to play Alinsky ends-and-means hardball without actually breaking the law.

Kyle-Anne Shiver is a frequent contributor to American Thinker. 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/obamas_alinsky_jujitsu.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s Alinsky Lessons</p>
<p>Barack Obama had just graduated from Columbia and was looking for a job.  Some white leftists were looking for someone who could recruit in a black neighborhood in the south side of Chicago.</p>
<p>Obama answered a help-wanted ad for a position as a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago.  Obama was 24 years old, unmarried, very accustomed to a vagabond existence, and according to his memoir, searching for a genuine African-American community.</p>
<p>Both the CCRC and the DCP were built on the Alinsky model of community agitation, wherein paid organizers learned how to &#8220;rub raw the sores of discontent,&#8221; in Alinsky&#8217;s words.</p>
<p>One of Obama&#8217;s early mentors in the Alinsky method was Mike Kruglik, who had this to say<br />
to an Ryan Lizza of The New Republic, about Obama:<br />
 &#8220;He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full<br />
of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they<br />
were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better.&#8221;</p>
<p>The agitator&#8217;s job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the &#8220;realization&#8221; that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and<br />
corporations will see imminent &#8220;self-interest&#8221; in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.</p>
<p>In these methods, euphemistically labeled &#8220;community organizing,&#8221; Obama had a four-year<br />
education, which he often says was the best education he ever got anywhere.</p>
<p>Is it any wonder, then, that Obama&#8217;s Alinsky Jujitsu is making mincemeat of the woman<br />
who merely interviewed Alinsky, wrote about him, and spent the next 30 years in corporate law and in the lap of taxpayer-funded luxury in government mansions?</p>
<p>Obama Not Starry-Eyed Like His Followers<br />
Alinsky considered himself a realist above all, the ultimate pragmatist.  As a confirmed<br />
atheist, Alinsky believed that the here and now is all there is, and therefore had no qualms about assorted versions of morality in the pursuit of worldly power.  He didn&#8217;t coddle his radical acolytes or encourage their bourgeois distinctions between good and evil when it came to transferring power from the Haves to the Have Nots.  Alinsky saw the already formed church communities as being the perfect springboards for agitation and creating bonds for demanding goods and services.</p>
<p>When Obama first undertook his agitating work in Chicago&#8217;s South Side poor neighborhoods, he was un-churched.  Yet his office was in a Church and most of the folks he needed to agitate and organize were Church people &#8212; pastors and congregants &#8212; who took their churches and their church-going very seriously.  So, this became a problem for the young agnostic, who had been exposed to very little religion in his life.  Again and again, he was asked by pastors and church ladies, &#8220;Where do you go to Church, young<br />
man?&#8221;  It was a question he dodged for a while, but finally he relented and joined a church.</p>
<p>Not just any church, but a huge black nationalist church with a pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who unabashedly preaches a &#8220;black&#8221; gospel.  Rolling Stone Magazine ran with a story on Obama and his church, entitled, &#8220;Destiny&#8217;s Child,&#8221; which included this excerpt from one of Rev. Wright&#8217;s sermons:     &#8220;Fact number one: We&#8217;ve got more black men in prison than there are in college,&#8221; he intones.</p>
<p>    &#8220;Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!&#8221;</p>
<p>    &#8220;We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional KILLERS. . . . We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. . . . We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. . . . We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means!&#8221;</p>
<p>    The crowd whoops and amens as Wright builds to his climax: &#8220;And. And. And! GAWD! Has GOT! To be SICK! OF THIS S**T!&#8221; </p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t sound like any church in which I&#8217;ve ever worshipped, but perhaps I have led a sheltered life.  Reverend Wright, whom Obama called his spiritual mentor and still claims is his sounding board, has taken trips abroad with none other than Louis Farrakhan. The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan received the &#8220;Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright,Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer&#8221; Award at the 2007 Trumpet Gala at the the United Church of Christ. Wright was even reported to be a former Muslim. One might be led to wonder if this &#8220;church&#8221; isn&#8217;t all it makes itself out to be.</p>
<p>Among some of the black nationalist signs hanging in this church are a list of admonishments to black solidarity, called the &#8220;Black Value System,&#8221; and a sort of moral code calling for the &#8220;Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t recall the Ten Commandments or anything at all in the Gospel about race, so this seems a bit<br />
strange.     </p>
<p>But Obama isn&#8217;t starry-eyed when it comes to protecting himself from the possibility of bad press regarding his church affiliation.  When he was preparing to announce his campaign for the Presidency in February, he called his minister, Reverend Wright, the night before and disinvited him to stand on the podium in front of all the cameras.  </p>
<p>Rather than face questions, he simply eliminated the target, a perfect Alinsky action meant to forestall an enemy reaction.</p>
<p>Hillary should have known what she was up against when she read up on how Obama won his state senate seat in Illinois. </p>
<p>Obama had returned to Chicago and practiced civil rights law for 3 years, when he spied an opportunity to run for the state senate.  A longtime, widely-revered matron of the civil rights movement named Alice Palmer had held the seat for a number of years, but she announced that she wanted to run for Congress.  So, Obama seized the opportunity and proclaimed his intention to run for Alice&#8217;s open seat. </p>
<p>Well, Alice lost the congressional race and decided that she wanted to hang onto that<br />
hard-won state senate seat.  Most of the community leaders tried to persuade Obama to<br />
withdraw and wait his turn; he was a newcomer after all. </p>
<p>Instead Obama performed his first real act of political jujitsu.  He sent his aides to the courthouse to carefully examine all of Alice Palmer&#8217;s signatures to see if enough could be disallowed to knock her off the ballot altogether.  And indeed, some of Alice&#8217;s<br />
signatures were fake.  The aides also found enough other fake signatures on opponents&#8217;<br />
ballot initiatives to knock them off the ballot as well. </p>
<p>By the time Barack Obama walked handily into his state senate seat, everyone there knew him as &#8220;the man who knocked off Alice Palmer.&#8221;  Quite a feat indeed for the newcomer, the young whippersnapper with the odd name.</p>
<p>Perhaps Hillary will win some states and stay in the game a while longer, but I fear this knight with his adoring, fawning followers is just too slick for her and ole Bill, and he seems to know how to play Alinsky ends-and-means hardball without actually breaking the law.</p>
<p>Kyle-Anne Shiver is a frequent contributor to American Thinker. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/obamas_alinsky_jujitsu.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/obamas_alinsky_jujitsu.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
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		<description>JMWalker posted October 8, 2008 at 8:55 pm

If you have to quote some brainless tripe like, DAVID H. HACKWORTH, you need to change out that tinfoil hat for one actually containing brain matter.
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Is this who JM Walker is calling a &quot;brainless tripe&quot;?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hackworth 
&quot;David Haskell Hackworth (November 11, 1930 – May 4, 2005) known affectionately as &quot;Hack&quot;, was a retired United States Army colonel and prominent military journalist.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JMWalker posted October 8, 2008 at 8:55 pm</p>
<p>If you have to quote some brainless tripe like, DAVID H. HACKWORTH, you need to change out that tinfoil hat for one actually containing brain matter.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Is this who JM Walker is calling a &#8220;brainless tripe&#8221;?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hackworth" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hackworth</a><br />
&#8220;David Haskell Hackworth (November 11, 1930 – May 4, 2005) known affectionately as &#8220;Hack&#8221;, was a retired United States Army colonel and prominent military journalist.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  REPEAT   &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   Reaqd  carefully,  Reguliar &gt;&gt;&gt;

Is FREEDOM of THOUGHT now up for questioning in McCain’s American Vision???


It  seems  Regular  is wants  to  defeat  people,  by  &quot;association&quot;   and  for having  &quot;freedom of  thought&quot;.

What more  PROOF  do  I  need,  except  for your  own   FALSE  BS???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  REPEAT   &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   Reaqd  carefully,  Reguliar &gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Is FREEDOM of THOUGHT now up for questioning in McCain’s American Vision???</p>
<p>It  seems  Regular  is wants  to  defeat  people,  by  &#8220;association&#8221;   and  for having  &#8220;freedom of  thought&#8221;.</p>
<p>What more  PROOF  do  I  need,  except  for your  own   FALSE  BS???</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chas
Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:10 pm &#124; Permalink

“3. World Net Daily Posted Sept 24, 2008?

ROFL!!! WND — home ezine of Jerome Corsi, lying bastard author, and all around LOSER!!!

And that is what Regular calls credible??? 
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Prove that it&#039;s wrong.

I looked about 50 Web pages on the matter, they all came up with the same conclusion about Obama&#039;s ideology.

Prove it&#039;s wrong or STFU (Chas&#039;s version)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chas<br />
Posted October 8, 2008 at 9:10 pm | Permalink</p>
<p>“3. World Net Daily Posted Sept 24, 2008?</p>
<p>ROFL!!! WND — home ezine of Jerome Corsi, lying bastard author, and all around LOSER!!!</p>
<p>And that is what Regular calls credible???<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Prove that it&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<p>I looked about 50 Web pages on the matter, they all came up with the same conclusion about Obama&#8217;s ideology.</p>
<p>Prove it&#8217;s wrong or STFU (Chas&#8217;s version)</p>
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