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McCain sat on board of racist group
NBC’s Tom Brokaw talked to Paul Begala about how the McCain campaign is attacking Barack Obama’s association with William Ayers, who was a member of the Weather Underground.
Brokaw played a clip of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin criticizing Obama’s connection to Ayers by referencing a New York Times article published on the subject.
“It turns out one of his earlier supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times, is a domestic terrorist,” Palin said.
After pointing out that Obama was eight years old when Ayers’ planned the attacks, Begala believes “guilt by association” attacks are dangerous territory for McCain.
Begala said, “This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign. You can go back — I have written a book about the candidate. A dozen researchers go through him. I didn’t even put this in the book. John McCain sat on a baord.
“It was the U.S. Council for World Freedom. It was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub who wound up involved in the Iran Contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative right-wing group.
“The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League, the parent organization which ADL said had increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racist and anti-Semites.”
Article with video:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Begala_McCain_sat_on_board_of_1005.html
good catch there, maggot!!
Even Sun Myung Moon declared the Anti-Communist League too fascist. For a guy who is dedicated to opposing Communism, getting this guy’s disapproval must mean it is really extreme.
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/gw/2815.html
But all this matters not to the reich wing who thinks Obama was a member of the Weathermen Underground at age 8 and was a Muslim scholar at age 6.
All I need to know is that this, John Singlaub guy is from the old school, “Iran-Contra Affair”. This is all anyone needs to know to understand that with McCain, it’s Bushco. It’s Bushco with all of the glamour that goes with dealing drugs, killing and gun-running.
BTW, how’s that Banker Bill working out thus far? Bush did say, I admit, that “this will take time” to anything. Global markets really believe in it.
Get used to this in the near future:
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5093
(It’s a neat little Las Vegas NBC news story).
But I gotta laugh at the “Catholic Charities” thingy.
If they (or any denomination) were truly charitable, wouldn’t they open up the sanctuary for the homeless? I mean there is a lot of room in one of those God-Mart’s for a lot of cots.
But getting that “icky” vagrant dirt on the pew is sacrilege.
BUT! It’d be Bushco with Obama too. Sweet.
Vote outside the box, vote for a not-bought 3rd party candidate.
Heck, I doubt there will even be an election…
>But getting that “icky” vagrant dirt on the pew is sacrilege.<
There are alot of issues to opening up a building for use by the homeless community. Catholic Charities does alot for many of the indigent people in this city. Far more than most!
How about you open up your home… or even a basement bedroom to the homeless? Would YOU be willing to get some of that “icky” vagrant dirt on YOUR carpet? Just wondering……
I don’t claim to be a charity, dummy.
No, these effed up, go for nothing “houses of God” are shams and the thieves’ of the poor hideouts.
WWJD? Build a huge mansion and bask in the Glory O’ God!
taking an example from the libs, I will just declare chas and maggot as ’shills’ and therefore anything they say isn’t true or worth reading.
Hey, it works for them…
“There are alot of issues to opening up a building for use by the homeless community.”
Like?
“go for nothing”???, good for nothing.
“There are alot of issues to opening up a building for use by the homeless community.”
Like?
He’ll come up with something…let him check his notes.
““There are alot of issues to opening up a building for use by the homeless community.”
Yeah they might actually show up at those church buildings and hang around!
The folks who show up in their Sunday best and fill the collection plate, they don’t want to have to look at homeless people or be around them. It makes them uncomfortable.
Indeed.
Listen to this Info-babe. Listen closely. This is their opinion of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYPyIRETe0A&feature=related
Dear Worthless Wingnuts,
Barack Obama just brought out the big guns at McCain-Palin’s would-be knife fight.
http://www.keatingeconomics.com/
Palin’s going to go after Obama for his supposed “associations?” Fine. Get ready for four weeks of Charles Keating’s “patronage” of John McCain that ended up bankrupting 20,000 retirees and putting the taxpayers on the hook for $120 billion.
And the best part is that the Keating stuff is all true while the Ayers nonsense is lies–every bit of it. So peruse the Keating site. Lots of nice PDF’s and primary source documents that tell the story of how McCain hounded bank regulators when Charlie Keating told him to. What was that Ed Rendell said? McCain isn’t a maverick–he’s a sidekick.
If anybody had any doubts about whether Barack Obama has the smarts and temperament to be Commander-In-Chief, then look at how he held his fire until he could see the whites of John McCain’s ailing left eye. And nobody should doubt whether Obama will go all the way when necessary.
And just in time for tomorrow night’s debate, to boot. McCain best get working on his anger issues ASAP.
Some happy thoughts from planet wingnut while you watch your 401k’s meltdown today
from wiki on the ownership society
We Conservatives have always passed our values from generation to generation. I believe that personal prosperity should follow the same course. I want to see wealth cascading down the generations. We do not see each generation starting out anew, with the past cut off and the future ignored. – John Major conference speech 1991.
…if you own something, you have a vital stake in the future of our country. The more ownership there is in America, the more vitality there is in America, and the more people have a vital stake in the future of this country. – President George W. Bush, June 17, 2004
We’re creating… an ownership society in this country, where more Americans than ever will be able to open up their door where they live and say, welcome to my house, welcome to my piece of property. – President George W. Bush, October 2004. [2]
Individuals are empowered by freeing them from dependence on government handouts and making them owners instead, in control of their own lives and destinies. In the ownership society, patients control their own health care, parents control their own children’s education, and workers control their retirement savings. – Cato Institute
Many people don’t have the time, inclination, or expertise necessary to take full responsibility for their own well-being in areas that are so complex as assuring they have sufficient income for retirement or choosing a health plan appropriate for their circumstances. – Robert Reischauer, president of the Urban Institute, a Washington think tank.
…the key to health care reform is to restore control to the patients themselves. – John McCain’s campaign website, 2008.
In Denver the other day, McCain said he would give every veteran a card that they could take in to ANY doctor, ANY hospital, ANY treatment center and receive medical care.
Any of you Republicans like to explain HOW that will be paid for?
(Crickets chirping)
This one is for paulie and all the supply siders out there. The headline says that weakening demand is driving down gas prices.
Not increased supply. Weakening demand. I know, you need a few moments to collect yourselves from this shock, but really. Supply side economics doesnt work. It didnt work for st. ronnie raygun. It hasnt worked since. It damn sure hasnt worked for bushco.
But please, rave on. I hear hell aint half full of supply side shills.
Yet.
http://www.kansas.com/news/story/552029.html
Two words about the current state of the market: Buying Opportunity.
I just increased my 401(k) contribution to the maximum allowed by law. We may be down for a few months, but I’m not planning to retire for another 25 years.
I’m not quite so short-sighted as “401k meltdown” crowd.
Nut who plays golf in Kansas,
The dollar is dying. Believe it or don’t. But you should think of putting your savings into Euros. Otherwise, your paper assets won’t buy too much of a retirement (in 25 years).
Thank you democraps for my 401k melt down.
thanks alot.
mxyzptlk
Posted October 6, 2008 at 8:30 am | Permalink
In Denver the other day, McCain said he would give every veteran a card that they could take in to ANY doctor, ANY hospital, ANY treatment center and receive medical care.
Any of you Republicans like to explain HOW that will be paid for?
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probably by taxing people that make under 40k per year?
oh wait, they don’t pay any taxes.
Bailout passes and market is still diving…..So are they going to burn AND the tax payers still hold +700 bil. in bad debt? I see our leaders have worked well AGAIN…
Should have let em’ burn and kept the +700 bil.
“Thank you democraps for my 401k melt down”
So… I’m guessing you also told the “democraps” thanks for all the big gains you made too?
Probably not. Repukes get the credit when your plan grows and democrats get the blame when it shrinks.
Puke logic
“Should have let em’ burn and kept the +700 bil.”
Anti, that 840 bil was just to get the hose to the fire. If you actually want water, that’s extra…
Isn’t it McCain that employs Wall Street lobbyists in his campaign and voted against deregulation every chance he got? Blame him for the market meltdown caused by the greed of his peers he enabled.
I’m not quite so short-sighted as “401k meltdown” crowd.
Good for you GN,
This is the second meltdown in the last ten years, Dow now below 10k. For those of us who are now or moving close to retirement this is not a good thing.
In Denver the other day, McCain said he would give every veteran a card that they could take in to ANY doctor, ANY hospital, ANY treatment center and receive medical care.
Any of you Republicans like to explain HOW that will be paid for?
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(crickets still chirping)
“In Denver the other day, McCain said he would give every veteran a card that they could take in to ANY doctor, ANY hospital, ANY treatment center and receive medical care.
Any of you Republicans like to explain HOW that will be paid for?”
Good point…and how can he say he’s against socialized medicine? I work hard at 3 jobs and pay more than many into the system…but I get NO benefits from it, in fact, I’m uninsurable…how is that NOT discrimination?
I’m just asking for the same right to health care as veterans, the elderly, and the poor.
Anti, that 840 bil was just to get the hose to the fire. If you actually want water, that’s extra…
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No doubt that it is high grade bottled water, not cheap tap water….
“This is the second meltdown in the last ten years, Dow now below 10k.”
heheheh.
Who’d a thunk that dryland farm ground in western Kansas would now be a better investment than the stock market?
Good work repukes!
Anti, that 840 bil was just to get the hose to the fire. If you actually want water, that’s extra…
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No doubt that it is high grade bottled water, not cheap tap water….
“I’m just asking for the same right to health care as veterans, the elderly, and the poor.”
And… dont forget…. CONGRESS!!!!!!!
Is there any woman over forty five that isnt excluded because of pre-existing conditions?
I doubt it. Thank goodness for group plans.
For those moving to retire soon: Eat the early withdrawal taxing and pay off some crap, by Au, storable food and pray (if it’ll help). Because this time next year, you’ll have nothing but zero’s and one’s for “assets” (prior to the digital age, you’d have a bunch of paper).
But what am I saying, my own mother won’t do anything because her bank told her she has “nothing to worry about”. She will be living with me soon enough.
“Young at Heart” showed up on my Netflix queue this weekend. It’s a sweet film I think everyone will enjoy.
But one of their songs sent me back to the original.
If you don’t like this clip, I hope I owe you money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHAZ25HYqU&feature=related
Affiliation in Iran Contra is a badge of honor in wingnuttia, some of their biggest talk show hosts are felons.
Damned skippy, Phantom. Good ol’ Ollie NorthCom, the big traitor is a neo-con hero!
Did you see that CNN video of the guy backing over the cop car? Go check it out, funny stuff.
They love people like E. Gordon Libby!
>I don’t claim to be a charity, dummy.<
That’s all the information I need to know to convince me no response is necessary.
>“There are alot of issues to opening up a building for use by the homeless community.”
Like?<
Liability… oversight… security… enablement… to name a few. Think about it…. why doesn’t the city open up Century II or the Boat House for the homeless? Same reasons.
The city isn’t a charity either.
You’re not at all clever.
That’s all the information I need to know to convince me no response is necessary.
What does that mean?
I’m no charity. If I saw a family lying in the street here, I’d have an obligation to help them. I’m no church, I pay taxes. They pay no taxes and offer big churches, nothing else. Oh yeah, they offer using a lot of energy heating and cooling those places. Hypocrites.
Maybe you should pray on it. Or prey on it like organized, wealthy, scumbag churches do. How about one of those priests offering a bed or a floor in his opulent home for those homeless folks? (I’m sure there will soon be some little alter boys homeless too if that’s the issue).
Imagine what all of that money wasted on energy bills could do for all of those homeless souls…
>Maybe you should pray on it<
Pleefer, I pray for the homeless every day. And your charges against the churches…. as if they are all the same, are both unfounded and uneducated.
By the way… the city or another government entity DOES have to provide the required services that the faith based charities do not. So the less charity, the more burden on the taxpayer.
new oliver stone flick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7vwicPx98
It appears the Michigan Republicans are a tad bit upset.
“If you are going to end visits to the state by McCain/ Palin, do it,” urged Jack Waldvogel, Chairman of the Emmet County GOP in a message obtained by Politico. “Just don’t formally announce that you are ‘pulling out’ of Michigan, and then come back two days later asking the base core of support to ‘keep working.’ What a slap in the face to all the thousands of people who have been energized by the addition of Sarah Palin to the ticket. I’ve been involved in County Party politics and organization for 40 years, and this is the biggest dumbass stunt I have ever seen.”
Waldvogel added later in the message: “He has given up on our State? What a total and complete crock of crap. Again, I think McCain owes the Republicans and the People of Michigan a HUGE APOLOGY. SOON!”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Mich_GOP_county_chair_calls_McCain_move_complete_crock_of_crap.html?showall
Kind of stretching it with the statements aren’t we Predestined?
Let’s see:
Emmet County Michigan.
population was 31,437 in 2000
Yeah, Jack Waldvogel speaks for a lot of folks in Michigan (coughs)
Well, excuuuuuuse me, Regular. Let me rephrase that just for you.
It seems the Emmet County Republicans in Michigan are a tad bit upset.
As for “stretching”, “tad bit” is an understatement.
No, to me, a church is two or more believer’s together in their homes, worshipping and trying to grasp the concept of “God”. And then going out into the street spreading “The Word”. Not building the biggest building in the area to “reach God” as if he’s/she’s/whatever’s going to be impressed by the stupid thing.
annie_moose,
I’m just wondering if “W” will be playing in Wichita. We didn’t get “Religulous”…
Stocks decline amid global worries credit crisis is spreading; Dow falls below 10,000
NEW YORK (AP) — Wall Street tumbled again Monday, joining a sell-off around the world as fears grew that the financial crisis will cascade through economies globally despite bailout efforts by the U.S. and other governments. The Dow Jones industrials skidded nearly 500 points and fell below 10,000 for the first time in four years, while the credit markets remained under strain.
I really wanted to see “Religulous”, and was disappointed that it wasn’t showing in Wichta…I guess the local censors was afraid of upsetting McCain’s base.
Uninformed and uneducated I must be. Nut I can tell a tree by its fruit.
>No, to me, a church is two or more believer’s together in their homes, worshipping and trying to grasp the concept of “God”. And then going out into the street spreading “The Word”.<
That’s Great Pleefer… but tell me, how is calling people dummy and nut working for you on the street?
“Religulous” isn’t here?
Why the hell not?
It is not like folks are lining up to see that con piece of trash “American Carol” and I know it is showing here.
Bill Warren is a Republican and it’s the political season.
Twenty minutes until the McCain Keating connection vid at http://www.keatingeconomics.com/
The goal? 100 million views by election day.
I should further explain.
Bill Warren (Warren theatres) pretty much controls what movies we get to see here in Wichita.
BlueJay
Posted October 6, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink
“Religulous” isn’t here?
Why the hell not?
It is not like folks are lining up to see that con piece of trash “American Carol” and I know it is showing here.
Bill Warren is a Republican and it’s the political season.
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What is the problem. This is a funny movie! You think Tina Fey is funny I think you would laugh out loud at this movie.
But then you did read your book for the year and you would never go to a movie that challenged you to see the left as anything but the heros you paint them to be.
Mental lightweight.
We didn’t get “Religulous”
Really,
hmmm let’s see if we can fix that.
It’s not working at all. I don’t subscribe to religion, so I don’t get all preachy about religion. I’m not so sure that the Bible hasn’t been re-written by the Church that I’d hate to spread lies about God and have to answer for it later. I’m pretty sure The Church ruined God’s Word.
And yes, I apologize, for the “dummy” comment.
C’mon, someone tell me how the market is doing after the bank robbery bill…please, I gotta know.
I’m guessing Warren doesn’t want a mostly empty theater with only a few religious bigots filling a few seats…..
Pleefer
Posted October 6, 2008 at 10:51 am | Permalink
C’mon, someone tell me how the market is doing after the bank robbery bill…please, I gotta know.
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Poopy, real poopy.
I knew, I’s just being facetious…watch it slide baby!
We didn’t get “Religulous”
Really,
hmmm let’s see if we can fix that.
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LOL I figure I’ll just buy the DVD when it comes out and enjoy it over and over and over…
Even the guys will love the visuals in this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHtXV_jOnq8&feature=related
I’m guessing Warren doesn’t want a mostly empty theater with only a few religious bigots filling a few seats…..
Religious bigots? Oh! You mean Christians!
Al-Qaida: US economic crisis equals Muslim victory BY HADEEL AL-SHALCHI, Associated Press Writer
Sun Oct 5, 12:15 AM ET
CAIRO, Egypt – An American member of al-Qaida pointed to economic troubles in the United States as proof that “the enemies of Islam” face defeat, in an English-language video released Saturday.
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In a half hour video message, California-native Adam Gadahn urged Pakistanis to unite against their government and U.S. forces, and taunted Americans over their economic crisis, relating it to their military interventions.
“The enemies of Islam are facing a crushing defeat, which is beginning to manifest itself in the expanding crisis their economy is experiencing,” said Gadahn, in a clip of the message distributed by the SITE Intelligence Group, a Washington-based monitor of militant Web sites.
“A crisis whose primary cause, in addition to the abortive and unsustainable crusades they are waging in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq, is their turning their backs on Allah’s revealed laws, which forbid interest-bearing transactions, exploitation, greed and injustice in all its forms.”
Gadahn, 29, grew up in Riverside County, east of Los Angeles. He was indicted by a federal grand jury in Santa Ana in 2005 and charged with one count of treason and two counts of providing material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization.
The FBI says Gadahn moved to Pakistan in 1998 and attended an al-Qaida training camp six years later, serving as a translator and consultant.
Gadahn also urged Pakistanis to unite and establish an Islamic state. Al-Qaida’s media arm, al-Sahab, is increasingly using English-language videos to address Muslims in Pakistan who are unlikely to speak Arabic.
Gadahn warned Pakistanis to continue to fight their government which, according to him, bows to American interests.
“Someone wanted us to imagine that the same Pakistani government, which is probably responsible for the death of more Muslims in Pakistan than the Americans are, and the same Pakistan army (is) suddenly prepared to fight kufars (infidels) instead of Muslims,” Gadahn said.
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I quess some are happy with this deal.
In fairness, Warren has been fair in the past.
It may be that the fact it is a political season.
Or it may take good reviews and popular demand to bring “Religulous” here. I cannot imagine Bill Maher could make less a movie than “America Carol”.
Oh and no, I don’t intend to see that. Con humor could not even fill a standard 90 minute movie. “Carol” is like 80 minutes. Too? I KNOW it must be awful since all of talk radio is BEGGING people to go see it.
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Predestined
Posted October 6, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink
Even the guys will love the visuals in this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHtXV_jOnq8&feature=related
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I noticed the real women were all in the past and did real jobs.
Fast forward to the future and they were actors and entertainers.
Evidently women haven’t kept up with the times in keeping themselves fit and able to do any job. :)
>It’s not working at all. I don’t subscribe to religion, so I don’t get all preachy about religion.<
That’s probably a good idea.. but don’t you think that someone doing good for any reason, religious or not, is worthwhile? I know.. it depends on your definition of good…. but most of us know what is good on a basic level.
Apology accepted. Have a nice day:)
Regular
Posted October 6, 2008 at 10:21 am | Permalink
Kind of stretching it with the statements aren’t we Predestined?
Let’s see:
Emmet County Michigan.
population was 31,437 in 2000
Yeah, Jack Waldvogel speaks for a lot of folks in Michigan (coughs)
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Sounds alot like Sarah Palin – she is a governor of Alaska with total population of 700,000 (?) but yet she knows how to run the country. Yeah, right.
Samkan You are right on the money…. I helped over see a homeless shelter in Ohio back 22 years ago….
“Liability… oversight… security… enablement… to name a few. Think about it…” [samkan]
This list is a SHORT one… also medical concerns…. personnel…. restroom facilities…. health/inspections…. LOTS of insurance…. cause of one of those folks gets hurt, they can and DO sue!!
Most “local churches” cant affod the extra expense of hosting homeless for more than daytime hours… or even hosting breakfasts, or lunches….
Thats why there is such a NEED for a well staffed SHELTER here in Wichita…. When the shelter is the ONLY budget item, it can be done, especially if funding comes from multiple sources, instead of just from one congregation!!
Just my opinion…. But…. been there and done that….
Evidently women haven’t kept up with the times in keeping themselves fit and able to do any job. :)
So you’re saying women are no longer active in the armed forces? In aircraft and munitions and all manufacturing? Flying airplanes? Sports, including car racing?
Oh, and let’s not forget politics.
Uh, yeah, sure. ;)
Well thanks samkan for accepting it.
Call it harsh but if a homeless person gets out of line by stealing, fighting…whatever…beat them down and trash them. A truly needy person is grateful for anything.
I’ll blame whomever put the regulations up then.
We’ll all get a chance to see bread lines and all of the homelessness pretty soon.
Citi suing Wachovia for 60 bil., like citi incurred any loss on the non-sale. Blood sucking leeches, if they can’t get the govt. bucks, they’ll sue.
Hi Mom!!
“Sounds alot like Sarah Palin – she is a governor of Alaska with total population of 700,000 (?) but yet she knows how to run the country. Yeah, right.”
Gee, the neighborhoods Obama worked in on the South Side of Chicago had more population than ALL of Alaska… now, what was it about experience we keep hearing about??
Pleefer?? Did you drink some AlexJones paranoia juice or something?? I mean, Jones can be interesting…. but his paranoia gets in the way of his reporting!!
Things are bad, and could get worse…. But not the extent you are hollering about… I HOPE that the people of this country arent so stupid as to continue in failed policy pursuits past November 4!!!
Let me see if I follow the “logic” presented here. Bill Warren is a Republican. Bill Warren “controls” all movies shown in Wichita. Ergo, non-Republican movies will not be shown here. Is that the claim?
Uh…sorry to burst your fantasy..I believe the great goracle extravaganza played here…yes? And the michale moore festival of hate played in Wichita?
So much for your claims…they don’t stand in teh face of facts. Of course, facts don’t seem to matter to a lot of people here, do they?
The latest from the Land of Wingnuttia >>>>
Did you all know that Obama is now suspected of CHOOSING to be Black?? Since he was born of a white mother, and a black father, some folks in Wingnuttia are tossing around the speculation, that somehow Obama could choose at some point in his life, to be Black, or be White, and that he chose to be Black, because he doesnt like Whites… except for his mother and his grandparents…
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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FAIRBANKS AK
145 AM AKDT MON OCT 6 2008
…UNSEASONABLY COLD WEATHER CONTINUES AT FAIRBANKS…
THE HIGH TEMPERATURE YESTERDAY AT THE FAIRBANKS INTERNATIONAL
AIRPORT WAS 31 DEGREES. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS FALL THAT THE
HIGH TEMPERATURE FAILED TO REACH THE FREEZING MARK. ON AVERAGE THE
DATE OF THE FIRST DAY WITH A HIGH TEMPERATURE BELOW FREEZING IS
OCTOBER 11TH. SO FAR THIS MONTH THE WARMEST TEMPERATURE OF 38
DEGREES WAS OBSERVED ON THE 2ND.
THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE SO FAR THIS MONTH OF 27.1 DEGREES IS 8.2
DEGREES BELOW THE 30-YEAR AVERAGE. IT HAS BEEN THE COLDEST FIRST 5
DAYS OF THE MONTH OF OCTOBER SINCE 1992.
http://www.weather.gov/view/prodsByState.php?state=ak&prodtype=public
IN FACT, I am surprised that JoMarieM hasnt found that one to cut/paste yet…
Yuck!! SHILLS!!
Jones has Paul Craig Roberts and Joseph Stiglitz saying the same thing. But I’ll believe what I want and you feel free to believe what you want. One of us will be right. I’m no money professional, but everything has happened like was warned 2 years ago (and decades before that).
This is it, the end of the Dollar and it will be painful.
dow down 535
There are other outlets than the warren to view a film. If enough people request it we can watch what we want, you know the power of the free market
The date is Feb. 1, 2009. Four of our past Presidents are sucked up into the sky by a great powerful Tornado!!
They find themselves in Emerald City, standing in front of the Great OZ!!
And OZ speaks: WHAT DO YOU WANT??
The first President spoke up: My name is Jimmeh Carter… And folks tell me I lacked courage….
OZ spoke: IT IS DONE!!
The second President said: My name is Richard Nixon, and they told me I had no heart!!
OZ spoke: IT IS DONE!!
The third President spoke up: My name is George W. Bush, and people say I need a brain so I can stop saying NEW KU LURE…
OZ spoke: IT IS DIFFICULT. BUT, IT IS DONE!
The fourth President stood up: My name is William Jefferson Clinton….
OZ spoke: AND WHAT DO YOU WANT???
Mr. Clinton smiled, and said:
IS DOROTHY HERE???
I’m not the old guy on the corner with “The End Is Nigh” sign here, a two-time Nobel Peace Prize winning economist/former Chief Economist for the World Bank is. And the “Father of Reagan-omics” and former Editor-in Chief of The Wall Street is.
I’ll listen to them over a pretty face on the news telling me “everything is cool” any day.
Raptor
“Religulous” is not showing in Wichita. I offered a guess why.
I also left wiggle room and afforded that Warren has shown very popular movies that part with his ideology in the past. Your blatantly editorial comment on such films noted.
If you have an explanation as to why “Religulous” is not showing here, you are invited to offer it.
Chas I’m sure you and SF Reader thought that was hilarious. Some of that lib comedy that BJ was talking about. Oh no he was talking about con comedy.
Chas
Posted October 6, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink
The latest from the Land of Wingnuttia >>>>
Did you all know that Obama is now suspected of CHOOSING to be Black?? Since he was born of a white mother, and a black father, some folks in Wingnuttia are tossing around the speculation, that somehow Obama could choose at some point in his life, to be Black, or be White, and that he chose to be Black, because he doesnt like Whites… except for his mother and his grandparents
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Hi Chas! I hadn’t heard this one yet but it does not surprise me. These are the same people that keep floating the idea that Obama is a muslim simply by his name. I have never heard Obama claim to be just black – he has always said he is half white and half black.
But let’s face it, what else do these wingnuttia have to campaign on? Besides, these people know that if they throw in a racial question, that will throw the focus off of McCain and Palin – and they certainly don’t want anything of their pasts coming out.
okobserver,
Be sure that you vote for McCain/Palin, or you will go to hell.
‘Palin Misquotes Albright: “Place In Hell Reserved For Women Who Don’t Support Other Women”‘
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/palin-misquotes-albright_n_131967.html
“Albright responded to Palin’s remarks in a statement to the Huffington Post on Sunday. “Though I am flattered that Governor Palin has chosen to cite me as a source of wisdom, what I said had nothing to do with politics. This is yet another example of McCain and Palin distorting the truth, and all the more reason to remember that this campaign is not about gender, it is about which candidate has an agenda that will improve the lives of all Americans, including women. The truth is, if you care about the status of women in our society and in our troubled economy, the best choice by far is Obama-Biden.” “
>Thats why there is such a NEED for a well staffed SHELTER here in Wichita…. When the shelter is the ONLY budget item, it can be done, especially if funding comes from multiple sources, instead of just from one congregation!! <
EXACTLY Chas! I had posted a letter I sent out to over 100 Wichita churches last year making just such a plea. I got zero response. The problem here in Wichita is the competitive spirit between churches, denominations, non-profits and government agencies. Although much can be done together, little is accomplished because everyone wants to be in charge. And, unfortunately they all want the grant money and the pat on the back. Too much money is spent on multiple administration and overlapping and competitive services.
In March, McCain discussed the attacks on Senator Obama that used his membership in Rev. Wright’s church:
“I don’t know why they do it. Obviously, I don’t control them, but I’m making it very clear, as I have a couple of times in the past, that there’s no place for that kind of campaigning, and the American people don’t want it,” McCain said.”
McCain is (was?) opposed to smear campaigning.
Chas, samkan – are you familiar with AECH? I understand they are making some progress in this area.
I want them to bring back the Reverend Wright, if only so we can see more tape of the Moose-Dresser getting exorcised of witches back at the Wasilla Ass. of God and Discount House of Worship.
Yes, I am familiar with AECH, and we have offered them our experience and assistance. Unfortunately, due to the very competitive reasons I posted before, they have never invited us to participate.
In the 18+ months they have been planning, they have achieved “a plan”. The homeless still do not have a shelter, and, the focus of AECH is ONLY the “chronically homeless”, which will still benefit the other 90% somewhat, but it will not provide for their shelter this winter…
“McCain is (was?) opposed to smear campaigning.”
He was against it before he was for it.
Okob — I dont think I mentioned anything about what I posted as being funny…. Actually, just knowing that such lunacy is running rampant is pretty damned scary!!
And, oh, yea, the only Con comedy I have seen recently was the Palin interviews, and debate!! ROFL!!
ELECTION FLASHBACK to Oct 2000:
“Bush, meanwhile, was on the stump in Michigan and Indiana, stressing character issue for the second consecutive day: He pledged that if he wins the election, Washington will no longer be “a place of bitterness and name calling and failed leadership.”
“Campaigning in Munhall, Pennsylvania, on Friday, Gore touted plans to expand tax credits for research and development and promised to keep government interference in the high-tech economy to a minimum. He promised “a new age of innovation and investment in America” if elected president.
“The Internet economy is like the goose that’s laying silicon eggs,” Gore said. “Let’s make sure it’s healthy and well-fed with a steady diet of new discoveries and new ideas.”
from CNN archives
It’s the competitiveness and pat-on-the back crap that’s turned me off of religion. Everyone wants to show just how pious they are. But they never show anything that confirms that they are people of God.
I’ve wasted more time this morning on youtube.
It started with the Pointer Sisters’ link to “Yes We Can Can” and sifted into other Pointer Sisters clips. I finally got to their version of Bruce Springsteen’s “Fire.”
It’s one of those songs where the cover might be better than the original. (Otis Redding said he could never sing “Respect” after Aretha did it; she stole his song.) Anyway, I got a clip of Springsteen doing “Fire” and it’s pretty damned good, but I still think the Pointers “stole” it from him.
Then I clicked on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HxZKa4NwGo&feature=related
It’s a live version of “The River.”
Day-um!
Springsteen gives us a novel. A movie. Somethin’ to experience.
And then we can get back to insulting each other.
There is nothing worse than a bunch of church people who think they are right about something and everyone else is wrong. These people are some of the most hateful, spiteful and downright nasty people you would ever meet – and all in the name of God?
If a person keeps having to tell me how good they are, then I know this person cannot be trusted.
right-o mom.
Looks like another trillion being rung out of the market, makes me wonder if our repub. delegates didn’t precipitate the global meltdown by delaying the rescue by a week!
Mccain “I will not take the low road to the high House. (unless I’m losing)”
>There is nothing worse than a bunch of church people who think they are right about something and everyone else is wrong.<
Church people hardly have a corner on this market.. there is plenty of it going on in the secular world as well.
For your YouTube viewing enjoyment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZr6MPIvV4
GAWD! The stock market is cratering. I am not saying the sky is falling, but this is ugly ugly ugly.
Good thing McCain’s :”fundamentals are strong”
We need some middle class relief while there is still a middle class…
$200,000 – $250,000 a year families have a little wiggle room. Not so the <$40K families.
Investors in Europe are getting beat up, too….
DOW down over 700 points. I just heard this is a larger percentage drop than week.
sankan, It is a problem that we as people think someone needs to be wrong in order for someone else to be right. Silly contest, isn’t it? Will we ever worry about ourselves and allow others to do the same?
Good coverage of the issue,
‘The Candidates on Climate Change Science‘
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/2008/10/freedman_the_candidates_on_cli.html
“Unlike the two most recent presidential elections, when there were stark differences between the candidates’ views on climate science and policy, this year three of the four candidates for president and vice president agree with the scientific consensus on climate change.
The lone skeptic on human-caused warming of the four major party candidates is Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, who happens to be on the ticket with one of the most tenacious advocates for climate science and policy measures in the U.S. Senate – John McCain of Arizona.”
More at link.
larger percentage drop than LAST week… even effects my typing. lol
Dow down 700. Banker’s are saying, “gotcha biotch”.
It ain’t left or right. Please, I implore you, wake the f..k up. Get together and see who the enemy truly is. The PRIVATELY OWNED Federal Reserve and its thug enforcer’s, the IRS.
linda > It is a problem that we as people think someone needs to be wrong in order for someone else to be right. <
And in many cases, they don’t even have to think you are wrong. They just want to be in control! I have seen many great ideas go down in flames because they were submitted by someone outside of the “inner circle”.
“And in many cases, they don’t even have to think you are wrong. They just want to be in control! I have seen many great ideas go down in flames because they were submitted by someone outside of the “inner circle”.
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Ron Paul agrees.
Obama and McCain are in the “inner circle”. Bought and paid for.
Excellent work for those that were dying for the government to come in and bail out the banker’s.
You all rule!
Just kiddin’, you’re proven sheep. Lost and easily fooled. Good luck in life.
A sad synopsis of what got us here. At least half of us will sadly agree, the other half angrily disagree. So goes our country since the sides have been chosen and there will be no mercy. There is no joy in either side.
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The Choice
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/10/13/081013taco_talk_editors
More crony-capitalism…ewww..meant crony-socialism with Paulson tapping his old pal Neel Kashkari to oversee the Great American Take-over.
Watch this:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/keatingvideo
This is …umm.funny?
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5104
And I thought that little girls wearing skulls and bones was bad…
http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=332705&CategoryID=36096&LinkType=EverGreen
Direct link to Macy’s, bringers of a decent parade and now HELL!
Well Pleefer I am afraid I will have to agree with you in many way. I still don’t go as far as you go but we still know that who ever goes into the White House needs to get good advisors and we need to move forward instead of spending 4 years pointing fingers. Our country is at stake.
Mitt Romney has had extensive experience in bringing companys from the brink of bankruptsy back to profitability. He would be my idea of a good advisor. We don’t need the failed advisors from fannie and freddie. Romney has succeeded where they failed.
The prez to bring this type of expertise into the WH would at this point be McCain.
I love what I am hearing McCain say on Fox right now. He is finally mad. He is finally hitting Obama with the truth of his actions. Finally we have a campaign.
Thank you for agreeing with the many ways. But understand that McCain’s “outrage” is pure theatrics.All of this is a big play, an act to fool all of us into picking a side of the same Globalist banker coin. The two candidates differ only in skin color and catch phrases.
For the Fannie Mae and Freddit Mac thieves and the socialistic Congress that passed the biggest socialistic kommie bill in history, a nursery rhyme. :)
Lucy Locket lost her pocket,
Kitty Fisher found it;
Not a penny was there in it,
Only ribbon round it.
“He is finally mad. ”
Where have YOU been? McCain lives a life of barely contained, seething rage.
“He is finally hitting Obama with the truth of his actions.”
You mean he’s repeating the same tired lies talk radio has been shilling for nigh onto a year now? Actions of a desperate man.
“Finally we have a campaign.”
That is sort of like saying that after the Titanic hit the iceberg the passengers had time to enjoy the night air.
Socialist? They passed a bill Bush BEGGED them to pass.
Is Bush a socialist kommie now? McCain voted for it. McCain is a socialist kommie?
I know socialist kommies. Socialist kommie’s are friends of mine. George Bush is no socialist kommie.
Or now that he is disgraced, do you think can run over him with your bus, now that it is politically expedient to do so?
Or maybe this 1950s-era red-baiting name-calling is as silly and as juvenile as it sounds?
Name calling won’t help put this country back on the tracks.
New policies by the Obama/Biden ticket can.
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DavidB
Posted October 6, 2008 at 2:59 pm | Permalink
Name calling won’t help put this country back on the tracks.
New policies by the Obama/Biden ticket can.
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Hosea 8:7
For they have been planting the wind, and their fruit will be the storm; his grain has no stem, it will give no meal, and if it does, a strange nation will take it.
Bush is no Marxist, he’s A NAZI, (National Socialist). That’s where we are going.
Regular,
Have you written all of the media outlets, and convinced them them that their usage of “windfall profits tax” is incorrect?
McCain learned from the experts how to conduct a nasty campaign. They used the tactics against him in 2000. Remember the reactions during debates? Remember that negativity was just that — a negative? It reflects more poorly on McCain than his intended target.
He was against torture when he was a prisoner of war but for torture when he voted as a Senator. He was against negative campaigning when he was the target. Now, in his sad desperation, it’s all he has left.
He isn’t capable of coming up with solutions. If he could get helpful advice from experts as POTUS, why doesn’t he get that advice as a candidate? Might help him achieve his goal! He also tells us he knows how to win wars, but he keeps those secrets and in doing so Americans and innocents die daily. He has words, nothing more.
Great site I found today:
http://www.glassdoor.com/
You share your salary (anonymous) for a company and you get free access to their salary database. Very cool, some Wichita companies in there, some not (yet)
NASHVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) — A new national poll suggests Barack Obama is widening his lead over John McCain in the race for the White House.
Sen. Barack Obama leads Sen. John McCain by 8 points, according to CNN’s latest poll.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll out Monday afternoon suggests that the country’s financial crisis, record low approval ratings for President Bush and a drop in the public’s perception of McCain’s running mate could be contributing to Obama’s gains.
Fifty-three percent of likely voters questioned in the poll say they are backing Obama for president, with 45 percent supporting McCain.
That 8-point lead is double the 4-point lead Obama held in the last CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, taken in mid-September.
Jason Bryant Shireman, 42, of Fayetteville, AR was apprehended by police and charged with three counts of aggravated assault following an incident in which he nearly hit with his vehicle a group of pro-lifers standing on a curb outside the Fayetteville Women’s Clinic abortion mill on Tuesday afternoon. Shireman told police that he drove onto the sidewalk to show the pro-life students from Subiaco Academy, who were prayerfully taking part in the 40 Days of Life event, “what he thought about them.”
This abortion mill offers internships for abortionist quacks in training, by the way.
These vehicular assaults and other attacks and robberies used to intimidate and injure pro-lifers outside abortion mills are becoming far too common. Should trained and licensed pro-lifers be wearing unconcealed holstered pistols in their defense? I say yes. Particularly when a pro-life group makes a big target, they need armed protection. In the past, courts have let violent attackers like abortionist quack Tiller off with no penalty at all for vehicular assault causing injuries. Police and courts have failed to protect pro-lifers and their First Amendment civil rights. Pro-lifers must protect themselves now, with no reliance on civil authorities.
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“It has been ten years now, almost to this day, and I can still remember, clearly, those fatal few minutes that I will regret to my dying day. The abortionist did not speak or look at me except to growl, “Be quiet and keep still,” when I began to shake and cry against my own will as I felt his cold, sharp instruments cutting out the life that had been growing inside me for the past three months. The sound of the fetus dropping into the plastic bucket held between my legs is a sound I cannot erase from my memory.”
. . . Carol, an abortion victim, in the book “Giving Sorrow Words”
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“I remained in hospital for four days … I broke out in hives from the medication … My condition was only getting worse … I was now unable to walk … [I was] told that my body was probably just in shock. [A few months later] I found myself still going through the emotions of a pregnant woman, and close to the day I would have had my baby, I had labor pains. I lay on the floor in pain, crying and alone … “
. . . Lara, another botched abortion victim of 1996
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See book page
http://www.theunchoice.com/GivingSorrowWords.htm
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Michael Sawyer, 37, shot his wife Imanie Evan-Sawyer, 30, who was 7 months pregnant, in a Bronx, NY homeless shelter when she lunged to protect their 15-year-old son, the target of her husband’s rage. Mr. Sawyer then shot himself in the head. Mrs. Sawyer did not survive, and neither did her baby.
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Lorena Godinez-Perez, 19, of Guatemala, was arraigned in Miami, FL Thursday and pleaded not guilty to charges of Attempted Second-Degree Murder and Child Abuse with Great Harm, for abandoning her newborn baby under a tree on September 8, with a leaf stuck in her throat. She faces 15 years in prison.
CNN makes light of the end of Posse Comitatus:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/03/army.unit/index.html
Just wait and see what happens after the next “disaster”.
This country is under new rules now, resistance is futile. Submit.
Never.
“Okay, Sarah, here’s the plan. We use the words “Obama” and “terrorist” in the same sentence. That will scare the crap out of the stupider voters. That may give us the edge we need.”
“You with us?”
“You betcha!”
Here’s an older film that at the time was just “kooky”. Spend the time to watch it.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=hot%20the%20elite%20control%20politics%20Alex%20Jones&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GFRD&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#q=how%20the%20illuminati%20control%20politics%20Alex%20Jones&emb=0
“Mitt Romney has had extensive experience in bringing companys from the brink of bankruptsy back to profitability
That’s funny, his history is buying the companies, leveraging them to the hilt, bankrupting them, and taking his profits out of the money he borrowed against the company.
Mitt’s no turnaround expert, he a vulture (and one without a conscience, he’d merge Cisco with a Chinese co. in a heartbeat if they’d of let him)
I think the plan was Sarah try an pick a fight, and grandpa mccain will jump in.
Palin was in Florida today “shoring up” a heavily Republican stronghold.
It must be bad when McCain has to desperately keep the rank and file from slipping away.
Of course Lieberman was with her. I wonder if McCain tpldJoe to go so he could stare at her butt like he did.
Here’s a 6 minute eye opener…
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U
Man I wish someone, anyone would watch these.
I’m going to try to go to the Rocky Horror Picture Show on the 25th.
Pleef, do you even bother to look at the other stuff this guy has put up as well? Come on man.
Tin foil all around.
The Relationship Between Barack Obama And Bill Ayers Is Much More Extensive Than Obama’s Campaign Is Willing To Admit
Obama’s Top Campaign Staff Have Attempted To Downplay The Relationship Between Obama And Bill Ayers:
Obama Spokesman Robert Gibbs Said That Obama And Ayers Weren’t Close And That Obama Was Only 8 Years Old When Ayers Was Bombing Buildings. Robert Gibbs: “If you read the article … it says these two men weren’t close, this man isn’t involved in our campaign. Bill Ayers is somebody that Barack Obama said his actions were despicable and these happened when Barack Obama was 8 years old.” (FOX News’ “FOX & Friends,” 10/6/08)
Gibbs Has Also Limited The Relationship Between Obama And Ayers To Serving On Two Boards Together. John Roberts: “Barack Obama knew Bill Ayers and had contact with him between 1995 and 2005. Exactly what was the nature of the relationship?” Robert Gibbs: “Well, John, as The New York Times reported this weekend, they served on two boards together during that time period.” (CNN’s “American Morning,” 10/6/08)
Even Obama Has Previously Referred To Ayers As “A Guy Who Lives In My Neighborhood” And Not Someone He Exchanges Ideas With “On A Regular Basis.” Obama: “George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George.” (Sen. Barack Obama, ABC Democrat Candidates Presidential Debate, Philadelphia, PA, 4/16/08)
But Obama’s Connections With Bill Ayers Are Much More Extensive Than He Or His Campaign Staff Is Willing To Admit:
In 1995, During Obama’s First State Senate Campaign, William Ayers And Wife Bernadine Dohrn Hosted A Meeting Of Chicago Liberals At Their Home For Obama, Which One Attendee Said Was Aimed At “Launching Him.” “In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district’s influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. While Ayers and Dohrn may be thought of in Hyde Park as local activists, they’re better known nationally as two of the most notorious — and unrepentant — figures from the violent fringe of the 1960s anti-war movement. … ‘I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers’ house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress,’ said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the info rmal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. ‘[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor.’ … Dr. Young and another guest, Maria Warren, described it similarly: as an introduction to Hyde Park liberals of the handpicked successor to Palmer, a well-regarded figure on the left. ‘When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the living room of those two legends-in-their-own-minds, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn,’ Warren wrote on her blog in 2005. ‘They were launching him — introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread.’” (Ben Smith, “Obama Once Visited ’60s Radicals,” The Politico, 1/22/08)
From March Of 1995 Until September Of 1997, Obama And Ayers Attended At Least Seven Meetings Together Relating To The Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Board Of Directors Meeting, Minutes Of The Board, 3/15/95, 3/31/95, 4/13/95, 6/5/95, 9/30/97; National Annenberg Challenge Evaluation Meeting, List Of Participants, 5/24/95; Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Chicago School Reform Collaborative Meeting, Minutes, 10/23/96)
* NOTE: Bill Ayers Was Asked To Help Obama Formulate The Chicago Annenberg Challenge By-Laws. (Chicago Annenberg Challenge Board Of Directors Minutes, 3/15/95)
In 1997, Obama Praised Ayers’ Book On The Juvenile Justice System. “The two men were involved in efforts to reform the city’s education system. They appeared together on academic panels, including one organized by Michelle Obama to discuss the juvenile justice system, an area of mutual concern. Mr. Ayers’s book on the subject won a rave review in The Chicago Tribune by Mr. Obama, who called it ‘a searing and timely account.’” (Jo Becker and Christopher Drew, “Pragmatic Politics, Forged On The South Side,” The New York Times, 5/11/08)
* Obama On William Ayers’ “A Kind And Just Parent: The Children Of Juvenile Court”: “A searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair.” (Chicago Tribune, 12/21/97)
“[Obama And Ayers] Have Also Appeared Jointly On Two Academic Panels, One In 1997 And Another In 2001.” (Russell Berman, “Obama’s Ties To Left Come Under Scrutiny,” The New York Sun, 2/19/08)
From 1999 To 2002, Obama Served With Ayers On The Board Of Directors For Woods Fund Of Chicago. “[Ayers] served with [Obama] from 1999 to 2002 on the board of the Woods Fund, an anti-poverty group.” (Timothy J. Burger, “Obama’s Chicago Ties Might Fuel ‘Republican Attack Machine’,” Bloomberg, 2/15/08)
* During The Time Obama And Ayers Served Together On The Woods Fund, Ayers Was Quoted Saying “I Don’t Regret Setting Bombs … I Feel We Didn’t Do Enough.” “‘I don’t regret setting bombs,’ Bill Ayers said. ‘I feel we didn’t do enough.’ Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970’s as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago.” (Dinitia Smith, “No Regrets For A Love Of Explosives,” The New York Times, 9/11/01)
* NOTE: Obama, Born August 14th, 1961, Was 40 Years Old When Ayers Was Quoted. (Obama For America Website, http://www.barackobama.com, Accessed 10/6/08; Dinitia Smith, “No Regrets For A Love Of Explosives,” The New York Times, 9/11/01)
* While Obama And Ayers Were Serving On The Woods Fund Together, Ayers Posed Standing On An American Flag For An Article In Chicago Magazine Entitled “No Regrets.” (Marcia Froelke Coburn, “No Regrets,” Chicago Magazine, 8/01)
Obama And Ayers Are Neighbors In Chicago’s Hyde Park Neighborhood. “Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Barack Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors.” (Scott Shane, “Obama And ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths,” The New York Times, 10/4/08)
* Obama Spokesman Ben LaBolt Told The New York Times That Last Year Obama And Ayers “Bumped Into Each Other On The Street In Hyde Park.” “[Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt] said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they bumped into each other on the street in Hyde Park.” (Scott Shane, “Obama And ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths,” The New York Times, 10/4/08)
* Neighbors Have Said “It’s Only Natural” That Obama Would Know Ayers, Who Often Opens His Home For Gatherings, As Obama And His Wife “Are A Part Of Our Neighborhood And Part Of Our Social Circle.” “Since coming out of hiding in 1980, the couple have raised three boys in Chicago and become part of the fabric of their liberal South Side neighborhood. Neighbors said it’s only natural that Obama would know Ayers and Dohrn, who often open their homes for gatherings filled with lively discussions about politics, arts and social issues. Obama and his wife ‘are part of our neighborhood and part of our social circle,’ said Elizabeth Chandler, a neighbor of Ayers’.” (Trevor Jensen, Robert Mitchum and Mary Owen, “Bill Ayers’ Turbulent Past Contrasts With Quiet Academ ic Life,” Chicago Tribune, 4/17/08)
Ayers’ Organization, The Weather Underground, Was A “Violent Left-Wing Activist Group”:
“William Ayers … [Was] A Founding Member Of The Group That Bombed The U.S. Capitol And The Pentagon During The 1970s.” (Russell Berman, “Obama’s Ties To Left Come Under Scrutiny,” The New York Sun, 2/19/08)
* Ayers’ Group, The Weather Underground, Is A “Violent Left-Wing Activist Group.” “Senator Obama’s ties to a former leader of the violent left-wing activist group the Weather Underground are drawing new scrutiny as he battles Senator Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination.” (Russell Berman, “Obama’s Ties To Left Come Under Scrutiny,” The New York Sun, 2/19/08)
The Weather Underground Produced A Manual Which Begins, “We Are A Guerrilla Organization. We Are Communist Women And Men, Underground In The United States For More Than Four Years.” “The coalition was said to be a violence-prone faction inspired by the Weather Underground’s ”Prairie Fire,” a guerrilla warfare manual published in 1974. The manual begins, ‘We are a guerrilla organization. We are Communist women and men, underground in the United States for more than four years.’” (Paul L. Montgomery, “2 Women In Brink’s Case Identified With Weathermen From Start In ‘69,” The New York Times, 10/ 22/81)
Oh my god, Newman you are truly f’n insane. you cannot be serious after all the shootings of abortion providers your groups have done!
Labor pains months after an abortion. Well I believe her mind was poisoned into believing she sinned and needed to repent, something your side pushes hard to instill that kind of extreme guilt. Isn’t it odd that it doesn’t happen like that in people who aren’t pushed into such guilt.
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Michael Sawyer, 37, shot his wife Imanie Evan-Sawyer, 30, who was 7 months pregnant, in a Bronx, NY homeless shelter when she lunged to protect their 15-year-old son, the target of her husband’s rage. Mr. Sawyer then shot himself in the head. Mrs. Sawyer did not survive, and neither did her baby.
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And you do nothing to help women in this situation, why even report on it? If you had your way she’d had been at home being beaten where she belonged. *according to you nuts. More concerned about the fetus than the woman.
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Lorena Godinez-Perez, 19, of Guatemala, was arraigned in Miami, FL Thursday and pleaded not guilty to charges of Attempted Second-Degree Murder and Child Abuse with Great Harm, for abandoning her newborn baby under a tree on September 8, with a leaf stuck in her throat. She faces 15 years in prison——————
Isn’t that just horrible. Such things that pregnancy does to women…women who should have absolute choice before being forced to give birth and have an ending like this.
Just like young mother kittens who behave this way.
Pregnancy is just not for some women.
Would HLP please provide a link to show where William Ayers was ever convicted of ANY crime? .
Hank,
Your stupid, long copy/pastes are wearing out everybodys scroll wheels.
‘Thirty Lies Refuted About Ayers And Obama‘
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-k-wilson/30-lies-refuted-about-aye_b_132109.html
That’s two threads Hank spammed with that bilge.
I think we are looking at the Fraklinization of most of the cons of this blog.
No doubt we will be treated to more such silliness.
There just ISN’T any good news for John McCain, Sarah Palin or the Republican party at large.
They have destroyed the economy. America knows it. And Republicans KNOW America knows it.
SO the Republicans want to talk about ANYTHING other than the economy and matters at hand.
I predict many of the con posters here will get lost in the panic and throw away any pretense they have at credibility.
Heh.
BlueJay,
Hank spammed three threads, and DavidB posted that Hank’s copy/pastes (x3) are from the GOP site.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/10/if-you-thought-the-campaign-was-negative-before/#comment-441174
Hey Pmom, to answer your question, yes. I have watched everyone one of his WELL DOCUMENTED films and listen to him everyday on streaming radio. He gets big name and credible guests on everyday. He doesn’t involve ANY Bigfoot-El Chupacabra-space beam-alien-lizard people topics at all. He is the REAL DEAL. He can support his arguments with documents.
But it’s a free country (for now) and you can believe whatever makes you sleep easy.
As for me, I’d rather know the horrible, unconscionable reality and deal with it. Most folks, if they had a broken leg, would try and wish it away.
The film (Money Masters) that I linked to upthread tells the documented history of the Fed and the moneyed elite in general. Granted, it’s three hours long, but is very awakening.
In order for this country to last, folks need jolted from their sleep. And as much as we need real change and I wish that Obama would be it, the player’s are picked, not for what they promise us, but what they swear to the bankers that line their pockets. No one in high-stakes politics is there because they are “good guys”, they are there because there is something that is being held over their heads. You don’t get into big power positions unless you are compromised.
Left or Right.
unfriendly and reliable
If Obama gets in (which he will, absent some new attack by the phantom AlQaeders) and nothing is actually “changing”, who gets the blame then? McCain is the obvious Bush-continued, but Obama, now there’s the hoot. He’s the wolf in the sheep skin. He’s got style and charisma, he’s the answer! But when nothing changes, when we’re still in never-ending wars and we’re all still broke (a lot more) then will you blame the past? Will it be easy to blame all of the mess on history’s Republicans? Yes. Back and forth, always, never-ending. The root are the plutocrats that have been working to this end for over a hundred years. We are heading straight for a new fuedal system and Obama will be leading the charge, with that charming smile and whatever words to soothe you. Like it or not, we are a fascist country, brought to us by both Dems and Reps (they like money and power, not necessarily us).
feudal…
It’s gettin’ bad, folks…
“When the White House brought out its $700 billion rescue plan two weeks ago, its sheer size was meant to soothe the global financial system, restoring trust and confidence. …
The crisis that began as a made-in-America subprime lending problem and radiated across the world is now circling back home, where it pummeled stock and credit markets on Monday.
While the Bush administration’s bailout package offers help to foreign banks, it seems to have done little to reassure investors, particularly in Europe, where banks are failing and countries are racing to stave off panicky withdrawals after first playing down the depth of the crisis.” – NY TIMES
“It’s a dangerous road, but we have no choice,” a top McCain strategist told the Daily News. “If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.”
Hank…admit it..your guy McCain is losing so he’s going all out to try and destroy Obama’s character. The fact is Americans are sick of failed Republican policies that have destroyed our country.
Better luck next time :):):)
KanSam probably gone for the day, but might be interested in this notice.
City Seeks Public Input on Priority Needs
Date: October 6, 2008
Contact: Mary K. Vaughn, Director, Housing and Community Services Department
Phone: (316) 462-2795
Community input will be included the 2009-2013 Consolidated Plan
The Housing and Community Services Department has begun preparation of the City’s 2009-2013 Five Year Consolidated Plan and is seeking public input through meetings and surveys, which can be found here.
The five-year plan is required in order for the City to continue to receive direct annual allocations from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). HUD requires communities to prepare a five year plan and to solicit public input in the process. The Housing and Community Services Department is making presentations to District Advisory Boards and is mailing surveys to recipients of federally-funded programs. The department is also inviting anyone from the general public to complete and return a survey found here.
The deadline for survey responses is Nov. 30, which allows time for staff to complete all portions of the Consolidated Plan and have it approved by the City Council and HUD. The current plan expires on June 30, 2009.
The funds are from the following programs: Community Development Block Grant (CDBG); HOME Investment Partnerships (HOME); American Dream Downpayment Initiative (ADDI); and Emergency Shelter Grant (ESG). The funds have been used in Wichita to fund home repairs, to assist first time homebuyers, to construct new homes, to rehabilitate blighted property, and to assist agencies which serve the homeless.
“Federal allocations to Wichita provide valuable, much needed funding to assist low and moderate income persons, but unfortunately they have been steadily decreasing,” according to Mary K. Vaughn, Director of the City’s Housing and Community Services Department. “That’s why it is so important for us to prioritize our needs for low and moderate income persons and communities, so that we can prioritize the funding allocations to meet the most pressing needs.”
Regular,
Did you add any fictional paragraphs to your 9:44 pm post upthread?
You haven’t proven anything is fictional cosmass.
Just because you say it is fictional, doesn’t make it true.
Of course, cosmos has difficulty knowing the difference between real science and political ideology.
Yeah you’ve gone from zero credibility to something even less there Regular.
You are into Franklin territory.
But I suspect you will have lots of company shortly!
Regular posted October 6, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Just because you say it is fictional, doesn’t make it true.
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I proved it to everybody except for you, Regular.
If you know someone who believes those 2 paragraphs are not fictional, ask them to post a link to the source.
And have fun flailing your arms trying to deny that you’re a LIAR.
O mygosh CNN says Obama lied about his association with Ayers. More will come out tomorrow on this newscast I’m sure.
In Denver the other day, McCain said he would give every veteran a card that they could take in to ANY doctor, ANY hospital, ANY treatment center and receive medical care.
Any of you Republicans like to explain HOW that will be paid for?
(Crickets chirping)
The Republicans were unwilling to answer the question. The Wall Street Journal contained the answer. McCain intends to slash Medicare/Medicaid by $1.3 trillion. Obama is launching ads in Florida and other battleground states explaining how McCain is going to destroy Medicare/Medicaid as we know it. Republicans cheer because they hate those socialistic programs. I wonder if Florida will abandon McCain?
mxyzptlk
Posted October 6, 2008 at 7:54 pm | Permalink
Would HLP please provide a link to show where William Ayers was ever convicted of ANY crime? .
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THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE, MXYZ…. That’s because Ayers was never covicted of any crime!! Thats a fact that the Wingnuts just cant manufacture!!
Chas,
You do realize that the lack of a conviction doesn’t mean he didn’t do things which were awful?
What has Bin Laden been convicted of?
Nathan, I cant argue with stupid tonite… I am just not in the mood…
Conviction is conviction…. Ayers was NOT convicted!! The ’60’s — I know before your time — were a turbulent time…. Many people said and did things that never happened before, and never wil again — hopefully!! Sort of like the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl…. LOL
That said, I wouldnt mind seeing a few MASSIVE war protest marches like we used to have back in ‘the Day”. :-)
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!!
so mote it be!!
Sarah Palin may be the most persecuted political candidate on the face of this earth. She has had to put up with circumstances within the past five weeks that would have devastated many of us in far less time than that. She’s been criticized for her supposed lack of leadership experience (though she’s actually had more than Barrack Obama or Joe Biden, who have never governed ANYTHING); she has had to put up with badly staged interviews with unfriendly journalists, which are then poorly edited in an attempt to make her look incompetent; she has endured personal attacks against her family; she has had her words twisted out of proportion and rumors spread about her; she’s had to put up with obvious favoritism on the media’s part toward Barrack Obama, and she has had some very nasty things said about her on internet blogs. And yet, incredibly, she still presses on and still shines brightly like the northern star that she is.
Sarah Palin is a woman who is plainly undeserving of all the hostility she’s recieved over the past few weeks. She is a true lady in every sense of the word, and she has so much that she could give to America, if she becomes vice president or even president. I believe that she will be a very capable leader, tough as the Alaskan wilderness if she needs to be, but warm and compassionate, an interesting blend of strength and sweetness.
And so what if she’s a little inexperienced? I would much rather have an inexperienced VP than an inexperienced president, if it comes down to that. And if for some reason she has to take over the reins and become President, I have faith in her that she could do it and do it well. She’s a very sharp, intelligent woman who can quickly learn what she needs to know, when she needs to learn it. So what if she pronounces a world leader’s name wrong or can’t quote the U.S. constitution word for word? I’m not expecting ANY political candidate to know EVERYTHING. Even experienced politicians make mistakes – look at all the gaffes Joe Biden has made lately. Everyone on this planet has plenty of room for improvement.
Sarah is indeed a physically attractive woman, but her real beauty comes from within. She is warm, engaging, dynamic, articulate and spirited. She is also very gracious to her opponents. She has spoken admiringly of Hillary Clinton, who snubbed Sarah by choosing not to appear with her at the UN rally. At the VP debate on Oct. 2nd, when she met Joe Biden for the first time, she greeted him very warmly and said, “It’s so nice to meet you! Can I call you Joe?” And this was to the guy who could possibly beat her to the White House, not a new next-door neighbor. And Sarah has the knack for defending herself and deflecting barbs without resorting to the nastiness of some of her attackers.
And Sarah is simply a joy to listen to. The sound of her voice is very pleasant, and you could easily listen to her talk for hours. Sometimes, when I listen to her speak on TV, I almost feel as if I’m hearing her talk with me face-to-face. That was the biggest difference between her and Joe Biden at the debate. With Joe Biden, I felt as if I were in a lecture hall, listening to an ongoing piece of political business. With Sarah, I felt as she was speaking right to me and we two were the only ones in the room. She just has that kind of effect on you. Joe Biden may be the one with more experience and expertise, but Sarah is a natural communicator. She knows how to connect with her audience and get them excited about whatever topic she is speaking on.
I’d like to see more of Sarah in more carefree settings – not just serious interviews on news shows, but lighthearted situations that have very little or nothing to do with politics. I’m talking about things like appearances on daytime talk shows, where she talks about her family, her favorite things, and what life in Alaska is life. Stuff like that. I believe it will help endear her to the American public even more, to really reinforce the idea that Sarah really is “just one of the folks.” So far all I’ve seen her in is TV interviews, shots from campaign venues, and the two major speeches that she’s made. A piece of advice for the McCain camp – let’s get her out there on some of these daytime talk shows (ones where the hosts won’t be hostile to her) and let the American public see Sarah’s fun side.
I hope that one day I’ll have the honor of meeting Sarah face to face and speaking with her one-on-one. Even if she doesn’t make it to the White House (and I sincerely hope she does; it’s one reason why I’ve spent so much time and effort blogging on her behalf;) I’ll still always remember her as the woman who took the American political scene by storm in the fall of 2008 and completely turned it upside down. She’s someone that I know I’ll never entirely be able to forget about. In the sea of Washington politicians who all seem to be cut from the same mold, Sarah stands out among them like a canary in a flock of sparrows.
Keep shining, Sarah, and stand tall. There may be a lot of people who will be happy to see you taken down, but I – along with many other Americans – have faith in you. You’re an inspiration to all of us, and like John McCain, you’re a true American hero.
Nathaniel posted October 6, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Chas,
You do realize that the lack of a conviction doesn’t mean he didn’t do things which were awful?
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So what punishment do you believe that Professor Ayers deserves, Nathaniel?
Do you believe that he should be hauled out of his classroom, and locked up in prison for years, or decades, without a trial?
Do you want the people that Professor Ayers has had contact with during the last few decades to be accused by the McCain/Palin campaign of “palling with a terrorist”? And use national media to attack all of those people?
Or some other punishment?
JoMarieM posted October 6, 2008 at 11:51 pm
“Sometimes, when I listen to her speak on TV, I almost feel as if I’m hearing her talk with me face-to-face.”
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‘Shooting From the Hip, With a Smile to Boot‘
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/artsandliving/style/features/2008/rhetoric/gallery.html?sid=ST2008093002732&s_pos=list
“But there’s a lot more at work. It starts with the way Palin’s delivery allows her to leap through the camera into your living room. Perhaps in part because of her background as a television reporter and beauty pageant competitor, she seems to understand how the camera works.”
Much more at link.
RE: JoMarieM >>>>
No good friggin TROLL/SHILL!!! Boooo Hissss!!!
JoMarieM,
How sweet.
She had better have some balls, she’s playing in the big time now. I hope we skewer her everyday, “gotcha” questions every question.
Thanks Regular…. where did that come from, I would like to get ahold of one of those surveys!! Was there a link, or do I need to go down to the Housing Office……
Good moning
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