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Tonight is the BIG DEBATE. Looking forward to it.
Here is a quick look at 3 former Fannie Mae executives who brought down Wall Street.
Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregularities in Fannie Mae’s accounting activities. At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted, “Raines, who long defended the company’s accounting despite mounting evidence that it wasn’t proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that ‘mistakes were made’ and saying he would assume responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its management in the wake of findings that the company’s books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting principles for four years.” Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion. Raines left with a “Golden Parachute” valued at $240 Million in benefits.
The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear. The Government noted, “The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements and inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsafe and unsound manner.” These charges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits.
http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/
Tim Howard – Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a ’stable pattern of earnings’ at Fannie. In everyday English – he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that, “Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae.”
On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant’s income statement to achieve management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company’s board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004.
Howard’s “Golden Parachute” was estimated at $20 Million!
Jim Johnson – A former executive at Lehman Brothers who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. Look at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s May 2006 report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you’ll see some interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson’s 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million. Johnson is currently under investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.
Johnson’s “Golden Parachute” was estimated at $28 Million.
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor.
TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama.
JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama’s Vice Presidential Search Committee.
IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE FINANCIAL MESS – HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE EXPERTISE – THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street?
This message is to JoMarieM who posted last night.
One, have you seen the statistics on happy marriages and divorce between liberals and conservatives? I’m blown away that you think liberals don’t have happy marriages. Ours are considerably happier and we have a lower divorce rate.
Second, our country is in a mess because during the last two years the election has gone to the guy you’d most like to have a beer with. So chosing an idiot like Sarah Palin just because you’d like to talk about knitting at the neighborhood block party is just adding to the crisis our nation is in. She’s not very smart- that has become very obvious.
Third, isn’t it interesting how the cons always complain about the media when it is their person who is losing. The media practically handed the election to George Bush. The evil slams from the neocons against Bush and Clinton have been endless. Where was your outrage then?
Sarah is the wrong person to lead anything in my opinion, and that’s just obvious. She disgraces women.
HEY who won the Suzuki???
Sarah Palis goes splat and takes John McCain and all the dark hopes of the right with her in T minus 11 hours 54 minutes
Chuckle… that’s what you said about McCain or words to that effect. Your crystal ball is cloudy, Carnack.
right, bj…scorn Palin and ignore that Obama employs THREE of the crooks that have significantly contributed to this financial meltdown.
Just what we need..Chicago style corruption in the White House.
Excuse me Raptor?
GREED caused this financial mess. You and outlander and all of the cons are party to that greed.
MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George WMD Bush
I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It’s a world of madmen and uncertainty
And potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet
Become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being
And the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.
Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher!
Make the pie higher!
Given the stakes, I’d say both sides will go for a “truce” in tonights debate. Everyone will be happy to get out alive. I’d bet $5 with 20 to one odds, however, that Palin goes aggressive. The MaCain camp may be depending on her to lift his candidacy once again. As for Palin, it is fun watching someone passing a goose while trying so hard not to screw up.
bj…read HLP’s post about Raines, Howard and Johnson. 3 of the crooks that helped cause this financial meltdown are now working for Obama. Just a good ol boys network.
And how am I party to that greed, bj? Nice generalization…but ain’t true. I bought a house with 20% down..kept the price within something I could afford and didn’t go with one of those risky no interest loans that are causing all the problems. The people that bought more than they could afford, and resulting in massive foreclosures are one of the main reasons for this meltdown. Raines/Johnson and Howard led people down that garden path of destruction. Raines took his 240 MILLION golden parachute and now works for Obama.
Show me how my “greed” contributed to this?
Raptor, read Thomas Frank’s book The Wrecking Crew.
“And how am I party to that greed, bj? Nice generalization.
You caucus with it and to me a con is a con.
Sorry,
That should have read…
“And how am I party to that greed, bj? Nice generalization”
You caucus with it and to me a con is a con, Vulture.
bj
Is it willful ignorance or just ignorance?
Without the flood of sub prime mortgages there would be no financial crisis.
Without Fannie/Freddie there would have been no flood of sub prime mortgages.
Without Democrats there would have been no Fannie/Freddie mess.
I think you can follow the rest from there.
Simplistic, yes. But I had to bring it down to your level.
You can labour along in your hate filled fog of denial or you can go to you-tube and watch “Burning Down the House”.
A video which Time-Warner, who gave Obama over $300,000, had pulled from you-tube for “trade mark violations”. The music was changed and it is back. The link has been posted here repeatedly and I’ve seen no one refute the facts presented in the video.
Open your mind. You can blame CONS and GREED but remember, greed knows no party. Some of the greediest and most corrupt work for the Presidential nominee of the party you support.
The nic is BlueJay and until you use it properly I’ll afford you the same, Huckster.
“You can blame CONS and GREED”
Why thanks for the leave there desk jockey. I didn’t ask for it. And I can get on quite well without your go ahead.
I don’t give a click for con links.
OBAMA’S ‘NOT EXACTLY’S’
1.) Selma Got Me Born – NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google’ Obama Selma ‘ for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga’s follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone.
Obama’s cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians’ homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya , his father’s family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro). From….and for more….see here
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 4-3-08 Article ‘Obama was ‘quite religious in islam”. See here
8.) My School In Indonesia was Christian – NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ‘one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.’ This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says ‘Obama’s narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.’
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience – NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.
13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My outlook on Life – NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live n TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Voting ‘Present’ is Common In Illinois Senate – NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted – NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – NOT EXACTLY, you didn’t write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens .. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA – NOT EXACTLY, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel .
30.) I Want All Votes To Count – NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.
31.) I Want Americans To Decide – NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
34.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.
35.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – NOT EXACTLY, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.
38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it
It was Mark Twain or Will Rogers or someone who said:
The problem ain’t what we know. The problem ain’t what we don’t know. The problem is what we know that ain’t.”
There are shibboleths of CONservatism — like “a higher minimum wage kills employment,” “get into real estate; they’re not making more land,” “stocks and home values always go up,” “lower taxes raise more revenue,” “deregulation is always good,” and on and on…
The media practically handed the election to George Bush.
What planet were you living on, P-mom? Not this one. Criminee . . . .
I don’t give a click for con links.
In other words, “I keep my head buried firmly up my ass where I can sniff my own fine self. It’s easier than thinking.”
There ya go, Heckler, The question you put to JR? It’s willful ignorance. There are none so blind as those who, with carefully tended and consciously chosen hate, choose not to see.
Wow Hank, you wrote all that by yourself? Nah, you probably just stole it (typical fundy). You know Obama was never a Muslim right? Oh what’s the point, you can’t cure stupid.
How DID we get to this place?
Early America was a country that gave land to its people.
(Well, white men anyway) Those people worked together to put roof over head.
HOW did we get to the place that to have a warm place to sleep you have to toil all day and pay some landlord a fee? That or pledge half your life’s work away living in a house that is not really yours until you are about to die and find a home in the ground?
I’d like to see something like Habitat for Humanity on a national scale. Get the landlords and financiers OUT of the place of deciding who gets to have a home.
JR –
I’d suggest you find a basic economic text. It’s really not that hard. You simply choose not to learn.
“I don’t give a click for con links.”
I’ll stand by that.
You never came back for the discussion the other day GMC.
YOU remember. You posted a link and ranted about “commies” in all caps?
What WAS in that link GMC? Was it singing children like I thought?
Good thing for you that shark exercises professional courtesy there GMC! Ya didn’t stick the landing though.
The beginning of “ObamaNation” Brought to you by the same goof ball who wrote a book on the necessity of impeaching G W Bush; and the al Quaida connection to the McCain campaign…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Obama_Nation
BTW — Corsi is NOT a black journalist from Los Angeles… for whoever it was that tried to make that claim…
BlueJay, you should read “Liberal Fascism”, by Jonah Goldberg. It’s a real eye opener.
“I’d suggest you find a basic economic text”
You mean because what you claim I do not understand is working SO well?
Thanks, no.
Corsi also wrote a book about how the American People were LIED to by the 911 Commission about the events of that bad day…
BlueJay, maybe the book, “Everybody Poops” would be more your speed.
“I don’t give a click for con links.”
I’ll stand by that.
. . . .
“I’d suggest you find a basic economic text” . . .
Thanks, no.
There’s no ignorance like willful ignorance. Spiced with endless hate. You’re a sorry person, JR. Find some counseling.
Well right now, I’m looking for a used copy of “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” by Thomas Frank.
A good friend availed me of a signed copy of “The Wrecking Crew” and I want to see Frank’s earlier work.
Went out to North Carolina to visit with the youngest and his family before he is deployed.
Ft. Brag is massive and I was surprised at the base housing that they live in. Those Carolina pines are wonderful to walk around in. He is doing well and my granddaughters are angels on earth I missed them after two hours on our flight home.
I finally got to see the Atlantic Ocean, we all went to Wrightsville beach and played in the surf. I had only been to the Gulf of Mexico at Galveston. LOL I had almost forgotten just how bad seawater tastes but a wave came along that was over my wife and I head. I was reminded in such a rude term and my wife lost her glasses.
Now I hear the youngest is being deployed in November in still of December, the hint is to around Saudri city. His company has their gear packed and their equipment too. So his days are spent on P.T. and ends up mowing grass after someone finally gets tired of him or her setting around. OMG the cost of living is so expensive out there! Sadly mainly for the soldiers and there is even a shop that is especially for the soldiers.
It seems that the personal equipment they are issued is not the best of quality. Or as my son referred to it “junk”. So they can go to this shop and out of pocket buy the better stuff, boots, hydration systems and the like. Yes it made me angry that this was happening and to those this country sends off to defend her. Capitalism at its worst! “ you do not send the army you wish for, you send the army you have!”.
He earned and is honored to wear his Airborne wings and yeah dad is proud. Still question his sanity as to jumping out of a perfectly good airplane though.
To get an idea of how pathetic conservatives are the pro-war/pro-McCain group, Vets for Freedom, has resorted to paying frat boys to protest in favor of the war at the VP debate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/01/pro-war-group-offering-ca_n_130827.html
I suppose when you hold a position that is extremely unpopular you need to resort to hiring thugs at $250 a pop. But I suppose that’s how Hitler’s Brownshirts got started too.
I don’t seem as angry a person as you GMC.
Having a bad day?
Anticipating an unpleasant evening maybe?
Heh!
Then again, McCain did say he aspires to be a dictator. Just what we need replacing a retarded frat boy who wants to be a dictator with an angry, senile old man who wants to be one.
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2008/10/mctesty.html
BJ you should check out Barnes and Noble, while in N.C. I bought a copy for five dollars on clearance.
The book selection of the stores out there surprised me, most were what would be call “liberal leaning” here. LOL seen a lot of Obama stickers too on base and in the town they kind of like Obama.
Take a tour of John McCain, champion of the common man, and one of his 13 bedroom homes.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Arizona_TV_station_gets_tour_of_1001.html
Maggotpunk
Posted October 2, 2008 at 9:02 am | Permalink
Take a tour of John McCain, champion of the common man, and one of his 13 bedroom homes.
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You mean his wife’s home…..Which they allow family to live in.
dog,
I don’t think he has $5 to spare. Like any good lib, he’s looking for a handout.
BJ
“How DID we get to this place?
Early America was a country that gave land to its people.”
You understand nothing of history. That land Early America gave away? You had to keep it. In a time when keeping it could prove to be a deadly indeavor. My Fathers Grandmother lost her first husband to a bucket full of dirt in a well digging accident. Her story was common “back in the day”
The kind of work it took to keep that land was the kind of work you could not take JR. Think about hand digging a well 150 feet deep for water because the nearest stream was 5 miles away. Think about hand sawing enough lumber to build even a 1 room house IF you were lucky enough to be near trees to cut. Think about digging a dugout to live in. Or cutting sod and stacking it for a “house” to live in. There’s a reason the life expectancy of a man in those days was well below 60 years.
You arent the kind of man that could handle the “free land” this country gave away.
I guess it’s OK to post WND articles if huffingtopost articles are acceptable:
4 Weathermen terrorists declare support for Obama
Call for ‘grassroots effort’ to help boost campaign
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76758
“You mean his wife’s home…..Which they allow family to live in.”
I didn’t realize his wife wasn’t married to John McCain. So they have houses they don’t allow anyone in the family to live in? How many of the 10 houses are just used as props?
http://bigpicture.typepad.com/
snip
Making the rounds amongst a certain subset of wingnuts on CNBC, at IBD and other selfconfoozled folks has been the meme that the entire housing and credit crisis traces to the the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) of 1977. An alternative zombie myth is the credit crisis is due to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. A 1999 article from the New York Times about the GSE’s role in subprime mortgages has been circulating as if its the rosetta stone of the credit crisis.
These memes have become a rallying cry — cognitive dissonance writ large — of those folks who have been pushing for greater and greater deregulation, and are now attempting to disown the results of their handiwork.
I feel compelled to set the record straight about this pseudo-intellectual detritus. As we have painstakingly discussed over the past few years, there were many direct and indirect causes of the current financial mess.
Let’s clarify the causes of current circumstances. Ask yourself the following questions about the impact of the Community Reinvestment Act and/or the role of Fannie & Freddie:
• Did the 1977 legislation, or any other legislation since, require banks to not verify income or payment history of mortgage applicants?
• 50% of subprime loans were made by mortgage service companies not subject comprehensive federal supervision; another 30% were made by banks or thrifts which are not subject to routine supervision or examinations. How was this caused by either CRA or GSEs ?
• What about “No Money Down” Mortgages (0% down payments) ? Were they required by the CRA? Fannie? Freddie?
• Explain the shift in Loan to value from 80% to 120%: What was it in the Act that changed this traditional lending requirement?
• Did any Federal legislation require real estate agents and mortgage writers to use the same corrupt appraisers again and again? How did they manage to always come in at exactly the purchase price, no matter what?
• Did the CRA require banks to develop automated underwriting (AU) systems that emphasized speed rather than accuracy in order to process the greatest number of mortgage apps as quickly as possible?
• How exactly did legislation force Moody’s, S&Ps and Fitch to rate junk paper as Triple AAA?
• What about piggy back loans? Were banks required by Congress to lend the first mortgage and do a HELOC for the down payment — at the same time?
• Internal bank memos showed employees how to cheat the system to get poor mortgages prospects approved that shouldn’t have been: Titled How to Get an “Iffy” loan approved at JPM Chase. (Was circulating that memo also a FNM/FRE/CRA requirement?)
What brand of make-up do you favor Maggot? Do you stand in front of the mirror with it “tucked back” and imagine you are a princess?
Anti it didn’t take you long to turn into a Palin, blubbering fool. I suppose that is what happens when you make absurd comments you can’t support.
“My Fathers Grandmother lost her first husband to a bucket full of dirt in a well digging accident. ”
Huh? What did the bucket fall on his head?
The heckler line seems at risk for chronic and darkly comic head trauma.
I have ancestors going back to America in the early 1600’s Heckler. I am well aware of what it was for a man and woman to work for what he had.
I’m off to do that right now. What YOU live, and what our nation has become, is a nation of people who work….
for someone else. And not in cooperative effort for mutual benefit as our forefathers did.
She’s on the pad. T minus 11 hours 53 minutes and counting.
BlueJay sings
There’s gonna be fireworks!
W-dog:
My oldest is going back to the sandbox too; he leaves in November. A Marine; and yes, I’m every bit as proud of him as you are of your son (and justifiably so; they don’t just hand out Airborne wings!). I hope on pray for the safe return of yours, mine, and all the young men a women serving.
The youngest, BTW, comes home from MOS school in December. Marine #2. I’m very blessed to have these remarkable young men.
And for all my fellow spoiled brats out there:
Made in the USA: Spoiled brats
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53028
Maggotpunk
Posted October 2, 2008 at 9:15 am | Permalink
Anti it didn’t take you long to turn into a Palin, blubbering fool. I suppose that is what happens when you make absurd comments you can’t support.
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Maggot, I simply replied in the nasty, absurd way in which you post everyday. I am sorry you found your own method so offensive.
“GMC70″ gets all pious –
” I hope on pray for the safe return of yours, mine, and all the young men a women serving.”
Rather than pray for their return, I suggest we stop sending them there.
But Monkey — If we dont change the military thinking, prayers may be the ONLY hope they have of a safe return…. you think??
Tonights debate will tell us what all these formalized “debates” tell us: Nothing.
Each side will trot out it’s talking points to the pre-determined questions, with little or no follow-up and little or no real interaction, neither with the “moderator” or each other.
And in the end, the partisans on both sides will see what they want to see, spinning endless sound bites without any context into half-truths or outright lies. Yawn.
Playoff baseball is more interesting, and you’ll probably learn more there.
No wonder humans are always at war…just look at the way boys play!
Let’s see now, who can come up with the best insult…
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Monkeyhawk
Posted October 2, 2008 at 9:24 am | Permalink
“GMC70? gets all pious –
” I hope on pray for the safe return of yours, mine, and all the young men a women serving.”
Rather than pray for their return, I suggest we stop sending them there.
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Most people live in the real world, not an ideologically insulated one.
Bee Jay
We ALL work for someone else.
Willful ignorance AND delusion.
I had a strange thought about Palin’s son deploying to the war arena…. Since he is the son of a VP candidate, does he have Secret Service protection, like other family members??
Since he is the son of a VP candidate, does he have Secret Service protection, like other family members??
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No, he has the military.
“Maggot, I simply replied in the nasty, absurd way in which you post everyday. I am sorry you found your own method so offensive.”
Then you must not have a problem with it. It wasn’t difficult turning you into a whiny bitch was it?
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Monkeyhawk
Posted October 2, 2008 at 9:24 am | Permalink
Rather than pray for their return, I suggest we stop sending them there.
I wonder…
What if we had the same approach for firefighters? And cops? After all, it’s dangerous out there. They would certainly be safer within the friendly confines of the station.
It wasn’t difficult turning you into a whiny bitch was it?
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You are the one that whines about the evil Christians on a daily basis. You are living in a fantasy world or you are just a religious bigot. You are the one with a web site devoted to your bigotry.
But… but… “KSGolfnut” –
Think of all the tax dollars you’d save if we eliminated the socialist fire and police departments!
France seeks €300bn rescue fund for Europe
France heaped pressure on Gordon Brown last night by floating an ambitious plan for a €300 billion (£237 billion) bailout fund to rescue crippled banks across Europe.
As the world held its breath on the fate of America’s $700 billion bank bailout plan, President Sarkozy was seeking the backing of European leaders for his own lifeboat.
Mr Brown also faced demands for action from British banks, furious that the Irish Republic’s unilateral guarantee of all bank savings on Tuesday was robbing them of precious deposits. The British Bankers’ Association, which represents high street banks, said that the move was anti-competitive and that it was raising the issue with Dublin. Some banks would like to see the UK respond with its own explicit guarantee.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article4864032.ece
writerdog and GMC, I’m thinking of your sons and will pray for their safe return. Thank you for sharing a tiny bit of your personal life — your pride and concerns. It should be made more personal for all of us. It seems too easy for those not closely involved to forget the sacrifices our soldiers and their families make.
“You are the one that whines about the evil Christians on a daily basis. You are living in a fantasy world or you are just a religious bigot. You are the one with a web site devoted to your bigotry.”
Yes, but I made you my whiny bitch for the day. Maybe you are just bitter because you belong to such an immoral religion. Thanks for bringing up the subject so I can present the update on the Christian terrorist attack against children in a Mosque.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/2008/10/murky-detailswash-facehazmat-c.html
The case of the attack on the Dayton, OH mosque just became murkier – police have thus far found no physical evidence of the chemical irritant:
Yeah, your claim has been debunked about a hundred times idiot. Jog on.
Thanks for finally admitting to the bigotry that is yours Maggot. Good day.
“Yeah, your claim has been debunked about a hundred times idiot. Jog on.”
Thanks for giving me another opportunity to make you my bitch. You clearly didn’t read much of the article because you missed, “that websites selling pepper spray online explicitly state that the effects fade in 20-30 minutes, well within that time window. Unlike mace, pepper spray loses it volatility rapidly, which would also explain why only a few people were secondarily affected by the attack.”
Remember how the Press pounced on James Watt for saying:
The panel, he said, had “every kind of mix you can have. I have a black, I have a woman, two Jews and a cripple.” And, the Secretary added, “we have talent.”
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,926215-1,00.html
NOW, the PRESS is, for the sake of diversity, trying to put a politically correct mix of political candidates on the ticket.
In effect the Press is doing the very same thing they criticized James Watt for doing years ago.
Don’t put candidates on the ticket based on their experience or any real credentials, put them on the ticket based upon their sex and skin color.
If the Press could find a black, atheist, lesbian, woman in a wheelchair, they would have their PERFECT candidate.
Yup, the Press and Society as a whole, as truly ‘evolved.’
“Thanks for finally admitting to the bigotry that is yours Maggot. Good day.”
Yup, I don’t like terrorists, that makes me a bigot. Clearly you love them since you excuse their behavior.
Maggot, there has been no mention of these “Christian Terrorist” in any of the articles you have posted. That is your addition and conclusion, not fact. It makes you look like a bigoted idiot.
The government of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has introduced legislation before the Iranian Majlis that would mandate the death penalty for apostates from Islam, a sign that it will brook no proselytizing in the country. “Life for so-called apostates in Iran has never been easy, but it could become literally impossible if Iran passes this new draft penal code,” says Joseph Grieboski, the president of the Institute on Religion and Public Policy in Washington. “For anyone who dares question the regime’s religious ideology, there could soon be no room to argue—only death.”
“Maggot, there has been no mention of these “Christian Terrorist” in any of the articles you have posted. That is your addition and conclusion, not fact. It makes you look like a bigoted idiot.”
My mistake, it’s the Christians who have displayed a constant love of Muslims for the past seven years. Sure it could have been some Jews but since they are such a small minority, and not as violent as the Christians in America, it’s highly unlikely. It doesn’t take much common sense to see what religion the terrorists are likely to belong to but since you are lacking in common sense it isn’t surprising the concept evades you.
Again Maggot you have no proof, not eve a splinter of it.
Maggot, there has been no mention of these “Christian Terrorist” in any of the articles you have posted. That is your addition and conclusion, not fact. It makes you look like a bigoted idiot
eve=even
Maggot your thinging is so convuluted it makes no sense. You can’t blame a paticualar group of anything without some proof. At least that is the way it is supposed to be. Your hatred of Christian and all things Christians has made something of you that isn’t pretty.
Wreckage of Fossett’s Plane Is Found
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/us/03fossett.html?hp
Sorry Anti, my bitch, I have plausibility and motive. It’s part of the Christian religion to murder unbelievers, and that’s been demonstrated throughout history. Dayton was one of the town receiving a lot of Obsession dvds labeling Muslims as terrorists. Dayton has a sizeable fundy population and fundies are natural fascists and fascists have no problem harming children that are labeled undesirables (as your fellow Christian movement the Nazis have proven more than enough times). In America Christians have been responsible for numerous terrorist attacks from clinic bombings, gay beatings, doctor assasinations, and even Tim McVeigh’s bombing of a federal building.
But really, what points you to the probability that these Christian terrorists really weren’t Christian?
“Maggot your thinging is so convuluted it makes no sense. You can’t blame a paticualar group of anything without some proof. At least that is the way it is supposed to be. Your hatred of Christian and all things Christians has made something of you that isn’t pretty.”
It’s called profiling. Do you think the terrorists were some old grannies from a quilting club?
Maggot, you and your freak show hooligans may believe that crap, however normal thinking folks don’t buy your kookery. Carry on.
Maggie, you are a mess. Get help.
Wow, I’ve made two people my bitches today. Don’t slip on your own drool.
Maggot, do you have a tax stamp for the products in you grow room?
Why would I need a stamp tax for what I grow in my own home?
Maggotpunk
Posted October 2, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink
Why would I need a stamp tax for what I grow in my own home?
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“Medicinal” purposes, I take it. Doesn’t seem to be working very well…..you know that stuff causes paranoia, right?
““Medicinal” purposes, I take it. Doesn’t seem to be working very well…..you know that stuff causes paranoia, right?”
Funny, I called an officer to my house yesterday and he walked past some of the plants I’m growing. He didn’t seem to have a problem with the tomato, basil, strawberry, blueberry and onions that he walked past. So why would I need a stamp tax for those thing that I’m growing at my home?
And yes, I suppose food is medicinal since without food people tend to starve. But stating that food is medicinal is like saying a McDonald’s is a medical clinic.
Oh, well I did plant three hazelnut bushes yesterday and the cop didn’t see those. Perhaps that’s what you meant.
Sounds like you’ve got a regular plantation there Maggot.
You should capture some of those lesser Christians to labor over your crop.
It’s my small little victory garden, but I’m still wondering why you insist I need a tax stamp.
Well, if it’s for personal use, then you don’t.
It’s my small little victory garden,
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You should grow a great big bushy beard and wear a yellow rain slicker to complete the “Victory Garden” theme.
Well I do give away my surplus food so I suppose I’ll need that tax stamp then.
Maggotpuke- It’s called profiling. Do you think the terrorists were some old grannies from a quilting club?
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95% of the world terrorists are brown skinned, black haired, brown eyed, muslim men. 4% are brown skinned, black haired, brown eyed, muslim women.
Why would anyone “profile?”
Leaves about 1% of the worlds terrorists as “other”
And “club gitmo?”
just chocked FULL of librarians……
Biased, where you get your figures from? I mean, apart from the “Pulledthemoutofmyass Library”
Maggotpuke-
95% of the world terrorists are brown skinned, black haired, brown eyed, muslim men. 4% are brown skinned, black haired, brown eyed, muslim women.
Yes Biased, you are repeating yourself. Maybe it’s a sign of mental distress. After all, asking a conservative to present facts for their claims does cause a large amount of stress. Judging by your inability to support your claim I’ll just assume it’s another case of a conservative telling lies.
Such hatred towards Muslims. It must be the sort of thing that drives Christians to attack the children of Muslims.
Maggotpuke-
95% of the world terrorists are brown skinned, black haired, brown eyed, muslim men. 4% are brown skinned, black haired, brown eyed, muslim women.
facts is facts.
After all, asking a conservative to present facts for their claims does cause a large amount of stress. Judging by your inability to support your claim I’ll just assume it’s another case of a conservative telling lies.
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This from the guy(?) who won’t/can’t show where “Christian Terrorist” bombed a mosque!!!! HA HA HA HA!!!!
You know Maggot, Muslims think gays are lower than dogs and are put to death by law in Islamic countries.
I’m just proving how stupid you religious nuts sound. In your view all the terrorist attacks in America, Latin America, Asia, etc were done by Muslims. How fascinating. So the Army of God, FARC, and Communist rebels are all really Muslim.
But I guess I can’t cure stupid.
Anti- This from the guy(?) who won’t/can’t show where “Christian Terrorist” bombed a mosque!!!! HA HA HA HA!!!!
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I can find three articles a week where a mosque has been bombed. Three just today.
Bombed by………
brown skinned, brown eyed, black haired, MUSLIM men.
“You know Maggot, Muslims think gays are lower than dogs and are put to death by law in Islamic countries.”
Yes, Christians and Muslims share a lot of hatred too. It’s not surprising that the one thing that united the religious leaders of Muslims, Christians and Jews in Israel was their opposition to a gay rights parade.
All rotten fruits from the same rotten tree.
“I can find three articles a week where a mosque has been bombed. Three just today.
Bombed by………
brown skinned, brown eyed, black haired, MUSLIM men.”
Didn’t do well in statistics or logic class did you?
Maggotpuke- In your view all the terrorist attacks in America, Latin America, Asia, etc were done by Muslims.
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No, just 99% (I added 95+4)
And don’t forget about the female circumcision practiced by many Muslims.
Muslim women are put in their place, a place where they are given no respect.
AND then stoned.
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543886
As for the Shari`ah stance on female circumcision, it’s a controversial issue among the Muslim scholars and even doctors.
In response to the question, the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, states:
Actually, this is a controversial issue among jurists and even among doctors. It has sparked off fierce debate in Egypt whereby scholars and doctors are split into proponents and opponents.
However, the most moderate opinion and the most likely one to be correct is in favor of practicing circumcision in the moderate Islamic way indicated in some of the Prophet’s hadiths – even though such hadiths are not confirmed to be authentic. It is reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said to a midwife: “Reduce the size of the clitoris but do not exceed the limit, for that is better for her health and is preferred by husbands”. The hadith indicates that circumcision is better for a woman’s health and it enhances her conjugal relation with her husband. It’s noteworthy that the Prophet’s saying “do not exceed the limit” means do not totally remove the clitoris.
Yes, the fundy Muslims are lot like the fundy Christians. It wasn’t too long ago that the fundy Christians thought it abhorrent for women to vote or wear less than a full body bathing suit (heck, even women showing ankles was considered shocking). Thankfully Western society became more secular and dropped a lot of those religious practicies. Some Muslim countries, like Turkey and UAE have done the same.
So I agree with you guys, fundamentalism is immoral.
Maggotpuke- Didn’t do well in statistics or logic class did you?
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1. Suicide bombers targeted Shiite worshippers as they left morning prayers Thursday at two Baghdad mosques, killing 24 people and wounding more than 50 others, police said.
2. In another attack, a suicide bomber who appeared to be in his late teens detonated his explosive belt as worshippers were leaving the Rasoul mosque. Ten people died and 24 were injured, police and officials at the al-Kindi and Ibn al-Nasif hospitals said.
3. The death toll from a mosque attack in northern Pakistan has risen to 25, military officials told CNN said Thursday. More than 30 others were wounded in the explosion in the Dir district of the North West Frontier Province Wednesday night.
bitch.
Sarah Palin was anointed by a Christian preacher who still engages in witch hunts.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gh7Lk46Oz-h8mWP35QuNXGRxkbmQ
You guys are right, these religious folks are nutty.
Biased, if you don’t know anything about statistics then it’s kinda silly when you pretend to. Do you know the definition of overgeneralization and small sample size?
Saw a great yard sign yesterday:
SARAH!!
Then underneath in much smaller type
McCain/Palin for President
GOP is gittin’ desperate.
Dennis
More from Maggot’s lovable Muslims-
Pakistani Religious Leader Issues Fatwa on President for Complimenting Palin
Islamic religious leaders in Pakistan have issued a fatwa against President Asif Ali Zardari for allegedly flirting with Sarah Palin when the two met at the United Nations last week during her meet-and-greet with foreign leaders, India’s Daily News reported.
Radical Muslim prayer leader Lal Masjid condemned Zardari’s “indecent gestures” toward Palin as a disgrace to all of Pakistan.
Zardari’s “filthy remarks and repeated praise of a non-Muslim lady wearing a short skirt” was unbecoming of a head of state of a Muslim country, Masjid said during a sermon, according to the Daily News.
Anti, since when did I ever say I was a fan of Islam? They are just another nutty, violent religion like Christianity. But I suppose, since you’re a fundy, it’s in your nature to tell lies.
But I suppose, since you’re a fundy, it’s in your nature to tell lies.
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This from a guy(?) who lies about Christians bombing a mosque! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
P.S. I am not a “fundy”.
ANTI
Posted October 2, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink
But I suppose, since you’re a fundy, it’s in your nature to tell lies.
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This from a guy(?) who lies about Christians bombing a mosque! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
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You have to understand MaggotPunk as I do, ANTI.
We are related by marriage, twice removed.
Unfortunately for him, his side of the family comes from a long line of classic under achievers and social outcasts, repeat offenders, broken families and “I’m a victim” classification.
So forgive him for his corrupt upbringing, he simply does not understand what it is to be an honest, thinking human being. :D
Unfortunately for him, his side of the family comes from a long line of classic under achievers and social outcasts, repeat offenders, broken families and “I’m a victim” classification.
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That is sad. It reveals itself in his website and post.
You have to understand MaggotPunk as I do, ANTI.
We are related by marriage, twice removed.
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I’ll bet the discussions at the family reunions are interesting.
OMAHA — The abandonments began on Sept. 1, when a mother left her 14-year-old son in a police station here.
By Sept. 23, two more boys and one girl, ages 11 to 14, had been abandoned in hospitals in Omaha and Lincoln. Then a 15-year-old boy and an 11-year-old girl were left.
The biggest shock to public officials came last week, when a single father walked into an Omaha hospital and surrendered nine of his 10 children, ages 1 to 17, saying that his wife had died and he could no longer cope with the burden of raising them.
Full story here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/02/us/02omaha.html?pagewanted=all
So many people want a baby.
How many people want a 13-year-old.
I’m sure “Parkay” will address this issue.
So many people want a baby.
How many people want a 13-year-old.
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Irresponsible parents are always a bad draw for the kids. Sad story.
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ANTI
Posted October 2, 2008 at 11:42 am | Permalink
You have to understand MaggotPunk as I do, ANTI.
We are related by marriage, twice removed.
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I’ll bet the discussions at the family reunions are interesting.
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The only reunions we have with the very different families are at funerals.
Not so much anymore, because the older folks are nearly all gone and none of either side talk to each other much any more for obvious reasons.
Since CONs tend to respond only to bumper-sticker slogans, I think we could probably counter the last 30 years of “Baby Killer” rhetoric from the advocates of illegal abortion with this one:
“It’s Not Killing a ‘Baby,’
It’s preventing a potential 13-year-old!”
;^)
Neutering, It’s not just for cats anymore!
Monkey since parenting requires a skill many do not have maybe we should give out birth control that must be taken until you pass a course showing you what parenting really is.
Any fool can be a sperm/egg donor. It takes a special person to be a parent. I will admit when my kids were teens I would have welcomed a drop off site on ocassion.
The idiot with ten children. Well he should have found out long ago where they were coming from and taken steps to stop the flood before he killed his poor wife.
My thoughts he is looking for a new breeding machine and thought 10 children might be a little much in attracting one.
If you really think this is an adoption issue you are deluded. This is a personal responsibility issue.
In other words Regular isn’t related to me although, judging by his posts, he wishes he was.
Maggotpunk
Posted October 2, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink
In other words Regular isn’t related to me although, judging by his posts, he wishes he was
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Yes, we are related through marriage a generation or two before our time, albeit separated somewhat.
I like the standing of my relatives on my side of the family in this community. There are lawyers, physicians, judges, pharmacists, school teachers, professors, scientists, blue and white collar.
All hard working and honest, with no axes to grind.
A reminder that the integrity of voting machines matters, no matter who you’re voting for.
Homer Simpson tries to vote for Obama.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/02/homer-simpson-tries-to-vo_n_131119.html
Kansas GOP party members ought to be questioning the judgement of McCain.
How does McCain figure tax payers can afford one more day invading and occupying the mideast?
As of this moment the repub VP is under investigation for impeachable offenses in Alaska so said radio news today. She was under investigation at the request of republicans when she was chosen.
McCain judgement is impaired a great deal.
Bush and Cheney sent two lawyers to Alaska to squash the investigation instead of allowing Palin to answer to the charges in a court of law. The never ending republican criminal activity
beginning with Watergate,Iran Contra,Savings and Loan rip off plus much more never ceases to amaze me. The republican party stands behind this crap.
earthdoctor — put up a link, or they will tear you to shreds (no stones on a Blog)
Sometimes on Wall Street stockholders lose. This mess was running along like a boom town economy. Following boom town action comes very slow times which is not new. In fact there is tons of history to substantiate this fact. Now it may be time for the winners to absorb some of the loss or they can cash in and hit road looking for other winners.
It’s what’s best for the nation. Which in my eye is bailing out homeowners thus taxpayers. Bailing out homeowners will get things moving along once again which is all the economy is waiting for.
New USA industry and lots of new good paying jobs is what the nation needs otherwise we are pissing in the wind. Bailing out Wall Street won’t bring new industry and jobs as the last 30 years has proven. Out sourcing USA means of constantly creating new wealth in the name of cheap crappy products at Wal-Mart is coming back to bite us in the butt.
I say to House members don’t rush through this because haste makes waste. Throwing homeowners out on the street does not generate new wealth for the nation. Reorganizing their loans would be smart thinking. Then bring on new industry and jobs.
“It’s Not Killing a ‘Baby,’
It’s preventing a potential 13-year-old!”
Monkeyhawk
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Reprinted for those of you who don’t recognize moronic evil when you see it.
Neutering, It’s not just for cats anymore!
Now better than killing babies!
“outlander!” –
“…moronic evil…!”
Three hissy-fit posts in a row!
I guess I must have struck a nerve.
Nine Bodies Found Dumped Near Tijuana Day Care
TIJUANA, Mexico — Nine bodies were found Thursday in the border city of Tijuana while seven alleged Gulf cartel hit men were behind bars in Mexico City.
Eight of the bodies found in Tijuana were dumped face down in an empty lot near a day care center. Their hands were tied and a message nearby read: “Here are your people.” The site was littered with shell casings.
The ninth body was found wrapped in a sheet in another section of the city.
An official for the state prosecutor’s office said the killings were believed to be tied to drug cartels fighting each other for control of Tijuana.
About 30 people have been killed in drug-related violence in the past week in the border city, including what appeared to be the remains of two people stuffed in a barrel and dissolved with acid. Officials were still running tests on the barrels’ contents to confirm them as human.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431841,00.html
Who Caused the Economic Crisis? (and who didn’t)…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/who_caused_the_economic_crisis.html
Report that the McCain/Palin campaign is pulling out of Michigan.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/McCain_pulling_out_of_Michigan.html?showall
A must see movie!
An American Carol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnHllNDcv4A
The trailer is lol funny! :D
VT,
Has anyone taken a look at the electoral maps lately? Colorado has gone blue, Pennsylvania has gone blue, Florida and (I believe) Ohio have gone from red to “pink” (leaning) to gray (tossup). There are more.
http://electoralmap.net/index.php?date=10.1
Hint: click on the “animated map” link or go forward or backward to see the progression/regression since August last year.
CNN’s latest is also interesting, where you can change the color of states to see the outcome.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/
Pre, I’ve looked at said maps. Still too far out to be meaningful, IMHO.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ confirms the earlier link about the McCain campaign leaving Michigan. What I found interesting was a tidbit about the campaign opening up an offensive in Maine, trying to get one of the electoral votes there. The basis for this is Sen. Collins running stronger than expected.
From my limited knowledge of Maine and its politics, I’d suggest the McCain camp take a look at what is driving the Collins campaign so strongly. IIRC, Sen. Collins is “pro choice” for one thing, and given the makeup of the GOP ticket, the support for Sen. Collins might not be transferable.
Thank you GMC and Linda for your thoughts and prays.
I share them with you and all those whom must wave a good bye and hope and pray it is not the last.
Aside of jumping out of a plane he is level headed.
Hopefully enough to keep that head down when needing to.
CYNTHIA!!! HE HE KO KO!!
McKinney Accuses Government of Slaughtering Prisoners, Dumping Bodies During Katrina
WASHINGTON: Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney claims the Department of Defense executed 5,000 prisoners with one bullet to the head and then dumped their bodies in a Louisiana swamp during Hurricane Katrina.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/02/mckinney-accuses-government-slaughtering-prisoners-dumping-bodies-katrina/
WriterDog-
While I don;t believe there is a man alive strong enought to push me out of an airplane that is not on fire or dropping like a rock, I honor those that can do so.
I have had my son an my brother in the sandbox. My brother twice. In addition, Ihave had friends,and sons of friends over there. Some have not come back in the same condition. My hope and prayer for you and yours is that they return to you as whole as they left physically and emotionally, thought in the latter they will be different regardless. some for the better, some for the worses.. None except military families can truly undertand, though many can sympathize.
Peace be upon you and yours, my brother.
WriterDog-
While I don;t believe there is a man alive strong enought to push me out of an airplane that is not on fire or dropping like a rock, I honor those that can do so.
I have had my son an my brother in the sandbox. My brother twice. In addition, Ihave had friends,and sons of friends over there. Some have not come back in the same condition. My hope and prayer for you and yours is that they return to you as whole as they left physically and emotionally, thought in the latter they will be different regardless. some for the better, some for the worses.. None except military families can truly undertand, though many can sympathize.
Peace be upon you and yours, my brother.
Five years ago today, The U.S. House voted 281-142 to ban partial-birth abortions. Didn’t work, they are still being illegally committed, though obviously not being reported, in Wichita, KS.
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Shortly after 6 pm on Wednesday, October 1, an ambulance, fire truck, and police car entered abortionist quack Tiller’s parking lot in Wichita. A woman, likely the victim of a high-risk late-term abortion, was carried westbound on Kellogg Drive within a few minutes.
Tiller has stopped calling ambulances for his victims since July, 2005, even in life-threatening emergencies, because of the unwanted attention. In this case, pro-lifers could tell from outside the parking lot that an emergency situation had arisen, and dialed 911 for professional emergency assistance and transport.
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The pro-life youth group Stand True is marking the 5th annual Pro-life Day of Silent Solidarity on Tuesday, October 21. Students will remain silent, wear armbands, or tape their mouth, and distribute flyers to help fellow students understand how abortion hurts women and children. Common hardware-store red duct tape is all that is needed to identify participants, although more is available. Each year, some pregnant high school girls are persuaded against committing abortion.
Legal assistance is available from Alliance Defense Fund (Phone: 1-800-TELL-ADF) for participants who are harassed by pro-abortion school administrators.
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Believe it or not, a Matthew 25 Network group claiming to be made up of Christians has posted a grossly misleading web page claiming that Obamanation is pro-life and wants to reduce the number of abortions through government handouts and taxing the rich.
Obamanation will do absolutely nothing that would reduce or threaten abortion mill profits. Furthermore, he plans to overturn state and federal bans on partial-birth, live-birth, post-viable, and underage abortions, appoint strictly pro-abortion federal judges, and heavily increase taxpayer funding for abortions, actions which all increase the number of abortions.
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Florida Gov. Charlie Crist has appointed 2 pro-lifers to the Florida Supreme Court, thumbing his nose at the distressed abortion lobby.
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In Californicatia, Schwarzenegger has signed bill AB 2747 to promote assisted suicide by sedated dehydration for the elderly, infirm, incurable, disabled, or probably anyone else whose existence is inconvenient.
parkay – why did the abortion rate go DOWN during the Clinton years?
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bth
Posted October 2, 2008 at 5:38 pm | Permalink
parkay – why did the abortion rate go DOWN during the Clinton years?
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Abortion Clinic bombings and terrorizing the staff would be my guess.
Your guess would be wrong.
Meanwhile, another tidbit for parkay:
http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/548912.html
Judge: Attorney General’s Office must answer allegations of misconduct in Tiller case
More of the legacy of Kline,
ANTI says, “Neutering, It’s not just for cats anymore!
Now better than killing babies!”
Man, you ain’t-a kidding!
Dig it.
‘Smoke and CO2: How to Spin Global Warming‘
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK8db2sue0Q
H/T to http://www.desmogblog.com/smoke-and-c02-how-to-spin-global-warming-video
McCain is pulling out of Michigan. He is doing so, only because he knows he owns that state. Rah, Rah, Rah…
Be sure to check the Bail Out Bill… The Senate managed to sneak several different NON-Assistance things into it. One such is taxing businesses for how much carbon they create. What does this have to do with trying to make sure credit stays open for businesses and the citizens of the USA? Well, what it will do is hit us hard in the pocket book with increased prices. Check out Page 180 for that addition. http://tinyurl.com/4utcew Be sure to read through the rest of it and find more BS crud they put in there too.
I think we need to go to term limits for Congress. All of their finances should also be placed in blind trusts (like the President/Vice President) to keep them from going in with only a few bucks in their pockets and leaving with millions falling from them. This should help us from getting screwed by the members of Congress getting all those Pork Projects put together.
i absolutely didn’t get what it’s about
A year and a few weeks, from the moment of diagnosis daughter allergic bronchial asthma mild degree (daughter was 1 year and 10 months).
What I knew came out of pulmootdeleniya on asthma – nothing, absolutely nothing. Here is some information found here — [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/survey/redir/newstxtsurv/redir.shtml?survey=no&url=asthma.world-autoinsurance.com/asthma-infection-sinus-symptom-versus.html]asthma dog symptom[/url]